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California Nightmare: On the Sussexes' upcoming "six week break"

When you get married, you don't always know exactly what you're getting; when you marry a celebrity that's even more true, since most famous people are adept at creating a persona for the cameras that is quite unlike the human they are in real life.

Linda McCartney married Paul McCartney shortly before the breakup of the Beatles, upon which time Paul took his young family and retreated to a rural area of Scotland to nurse his grievences with alcohol.

"I married a famous rock star and then I found myself in an isolated cabin with an angry drunk," Linda reportedly said.

Meghan Markle married a famous prince who is increasingly resembling an angry drunk. 

But they're not going to Scotland - they're going to California. 

The documentary they would have enjoyed

Even Meghan's fans would have to acknowledge that she has never really fit in in the UK; her non-fans might argue that she didn't really try.  

A truly "whip-smart" woman, as Meg supporters call her, would have started out her tenure by doing a tour of the country and making a big deal about viewing its historical and natural treasures, from Hadrian's Wall to Snowdonia National Park to the White Cliffs of Dover to the British Museum in London.

That's a documentary the Brits would have enjoyed watching: a newcomer asking respectful, if sometimes naive, questions about British history and culture. 

Instead, Meg brought her California "woke" culture and celebrity glamor with her and tried to impose it on the Brits. 

It hasn't been a hit.

California here we come

So it was announced last month that the Sussexes will take a six-week break from royal duties, for what the a palace source told the Sunday Times was some "much needed family time."

Although Meghan was officially on maternity leave for several months this year, she chose to perform a guest-editorship of Vogue UK during that time, plus arranged a (very) miniature capsule collection to support Smartworks, one of her patronages.

Numerous media accounts suggest that the two are headed for California, where they will visit the only member of Meghan's family they appear to be on speaking terms with, Meghan's mother Doria.

Over the past few days, it's been suggested that the two will stay not only for Thanksgiving, but for Christmas, and perhaps beyond that. They are reportedly looking for a house in Malibu to serve as a "second home base."

Who would pay for that house, and the security the two Royals would require during their time in the US, is still unclear.

What will Harry do?

Even more unclear is what in the world Harry will do with his time in California, where he has few friends, no family, and no defined work assignments.

He has agreed to work on the production of a documentary on mental health with Oprah Winfrey for Apple's new streaming service. But he has no experience in production work, so it's unclear exactly what he will bring to the project.

He can sit in on some meetings and share his personal point of view. He might even serve as an on-air host of the project, or do some interviews - although nonprofessionals tend to not be very good at this. (JFK Jr. was a nice man, but when he attempted to play journalist at his magazine George the results were not encouraging.)

But documentary production is often slow process, with a great deal of time spent in research, finding interview subjects and setting up interviews, and then prepping the subjects and their surroundings before the star talent arrives.

After the star talent leaves, skilled editors select clips and piece the whole thing together to make it watchable and give it a continuing narrative. Music and titles are added, and short packages are made for promotional use.

I can't imagine Harry doing much of the pre-production work, or any of the post-production.

What is he going to do all day?

An addict with time on his hands

There are rumors circulating, courtesy of an Italian newspaper, that Harry had fallen off the wagon during his trip to Tokyo for the Rugby finals and had begun drinking again.

I have no input on whether or not that is reliable.

But if he isn't drinking yet, being far from home with nothing to do sounds like an excellent opportunity to start hitting the sauce, particularly for someone who has been struggling with addictions for most of his adult life.

There was some gossip at some point that the "time off" was actually medical leave for Harry go to to rehab, but I haven't heard much about this recently.

Will Meghan find herself isolated in California with an angry drunk?

It seems unlikely that the six weeks (or more) in the US will be a new beginning for the Sussexes.

It seems more likely to be the beginning of the end.


Comments

Madge said…
Harry seems to be more and more isolated. It really struck home at the Cenotaph on Sunday when William walked away from him instead of walking with him after the laying of the wreaths. In years gone by, they use to walk together side by side.
Nutty Flavor said…
I think Harry has burned William one too many times.

William's changed a lot over the past couple of years as well; he's become much more serious about his upcoming role.

He may also know something about the health of the Queen and Charles that we don't know, which could suggest that he will be King sooner than the general public anticipates.
hardyboys said…
Great post Nutty. Yes the foreshadowing is on the wall. This is defo the beginning of the end. Harry cannot last in cali. He will probably come back and meghan will stay. I feel bad for william into being conned that he has such a big role in life being the King of England. We all know this role is nothing but a ceremonial position now all the power long gone decades and decades ago. Now he looks like a fool thinking he has real power.
hardyboys said…
Kate is in the DM smiling her very hard smile with the thin thin upper lip. I' know she is in for the long game but I'm amazed how her and william work together and luve together. That's just normal and really pushing the rules of monogamy.
hardyboys said…
Not normal I mean..her thin upper lip is disturbing but I love her smythe jackets. They ain't cheap and the real world if she had a job she could never afford them.
Nutty Flavor said…
Oh, I disagree with you that he will have no "real power." He has a tremendous amount of soft power, if he deploys it properly.

Even if he didn't, having access to the daily intelligence reports, the prime minister, and the press is power in itself.

And he never has to run for office, which many a prime minister must envy.
Nutty Flavor said…
An unrelated comment: I just wanted to add to a conversation in the previous thread, about Meg refusing to wear panty hose.

If she were really smart - "whip smart" as her fans like to say - she would have worn pantyhose once, just once, but the most inappropriate pair possible.

Maybe something thick or sparkly or suitable for someone either much older or with an entirely different skin tone (darker or lighter.)

Everyone would have made fun of her ridiculous legwear, she could say "I tried", and she never would have had to wear hose again.
hardyboys said…
Nutty how I love your comments and do not mean that sarcastically. I dont want to hijack your thread and start a politician sci debate which sometimes happens on here but that is hardly nothing compared to having a crushing army at your disposal not being able to spend your millions decadently and when he and Kate had to be seen flying Ryan air or whatever that's when I knew their power has been reduced to protecting their image rather than having real crushing power.and if the prime minister envies him which i dont doubt then they will squeeze out this unelected official out and just not include him in major political decisions. Those ceremonial undeserved medals he and charles wear are ceremonial and not earned. I'm certain the real commander in chief ignores them large and everyday
lizzie said…
@Nutty, She did wear hose to the garden party after the wedding. They were very light colored and shiny.
It just seems to me she could wear them when the Queen is present. A "whip-smart" person would IMO. And I'm sure she could find un-shiny hose to match her skin.
abbyh said…

Oh dear. No matter where you go, you are there with yourself. And this time, you also have someone else who may or may not really want to be there or be with you. And a number of things are legal there.

Nutty, I like your comment about William being burned one too many times. I wish Shakespeare was still around would be writing this as a play.

@Veena. Sorry to disagree but the Cambridges have been flying low cost commercial for years, especially the Norwich to Aberdeen flight. The recent trip wasn't a PR stunt, it was unfortunate that it came up immediately after Harry's hypocritical preaching.
SwampWoman said…
Seamed stockings and a garter belt?
Madge said…
@Veena. The reigning monarch has a lot more power than is evident on the surface. There are a lot of things in British politics and foreign policy which cannot happen without the monarch's approval. The power is not evident unless you are familiar with our constitutional laws.
@Veena, your comments come across at a dig at both Catherine and William for no apparent reason and off topic.

There’s nothing remotely disturbing about Catherine’s thin upper lip; how petty of you. As for the Monarch having no power, I disagree and agree with Nutty. It’s far more than ceremonial and William is no way conned, he understands the role and what it entails, and has done for a few many years now, he’s matured into it.

They’ve both flown together and separately on commercial flights, long before the Harry and Meghan private jet debacle, so it wasn’t a PR move on their part. Both William and Catherine always look incredibly natural and happy together, nothing forced looking about it.

This comment is off topic, but I wanted to respond to Veena’s comments. Apologises.
Marie said…
Thanks Nutty for the post. I learned quite a bit about the production process. I can imagine Harry tagging along to meetings, completely ignorant of what to do and thinking that he is doing real work as well as taking credit as the face of the project. Wasn't the Invictus Games rather similar? Yet I agree, the isolation of Harry from people who care more about his actual wellbeing than selfpromotion is troubling. Instead of her taking on Britishcisms, Harry seems to have americanised or let Meghan do the speaking for him. In any fall though, she is not Linda McCartney being understanding and self-sacrificing to help. Meg might honestly believe she is helping because her advice to Harry is probably what she herself did, i.e. cull your friends and family only to sycophants who praise every action and never outright challenge you. It is terrible advice.

Didn't she do the different skin tone hose at her first Garden Party where she wore that Goat dress? Her legs seemed white while her face screamed orange bronzer. There, it seemed to me she was she was trying to play the Duchess at least. But her massive ego ran ahead of herself and she thinks she does not need to follow protocol like hose or adjust to another culture.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Nutty, I agree re your comment about William, who may have to ascend the throne sooner than people anticipate. For a while now, I have wondered about Charles' health. His hands seem very swollen and his face has been very red recently, which it wasn't before. Also, Camilla does not seem to be in the best of health and would not be able to perform many duties as Queen Consort. So perhaps you are right and Charles' reign will possibly be a short one (if the Queen does not outlive both Charles and Camilla). William seems to be preparing for his duties as King already, which I find telling.
Blackbird said…
I don't think it would take long for Harry to feel like a fish out of water in California. Sure, it'd be exciting for a bit (both in terms of landscape and celebrities that would be queuing up to meet them and invite them to events), but the novelty would wear off after a bit. He'd also feel quite isolated, I imagine ... I could see him going with her to the US, but then deciding to leave part-way through and go back to Africa where he seems happiest (just quietly of course; I don't think they'd want that to get out).
SwampWoman said…
abbyh said Oh dear. No matter where you go, you are there with yourself. And this time, you also have someone else who may or may not really want to be there or be with you. And a number of things are legal there.

Nutty, I like your comment about William being burned one too many times. I wish Shakespeare was still around would be writing this as a play.


Isn't that the truth! That along with "a leopard doesn't change his spots" and "The Gods of the Copybook Headings" is pretty much a distillation of the knowledge of human nature.

If Harry has been struggling with addiction problems within the support of his family, I believe moving to California without a support system would be an extremely bad idea for him. So often there is nothing that can be done because the addict doesn't want and will not accept help. Listening to Amy Winehouse's "Rehab", I was pretty sure she wasn't going to make it.

Mischief Girl said…
It's the phrase "much needed family time" that I find so galling.

I understand there is work behind the scenes when prepping for an international trip or an away day, but good grief, H&M appear to have more time on their hands than any average Joe working a 9-5 job, raising a child, and running a household.

I just cannot generate any sympathy for a need for a break. More and more they come across as entitled and out of touch.

Harry will be bored silly in California. I wonder how $mirks will arrange it so their 6-week break includes being in California for the Oscars, because you KNOW if they are in state then that she will be working hard to secure front row center invites to the production.

It's a shame a person only has one opportunity to make a first impression. I really like Nutty's suggestion that Meg could have gone on a listening and learning tour of Great Britain rather than working to impose woke-ness onto the public from day one of her marriage. I do think there was massive possibility for a "Fab Four" with the Cambridges and the Sussexes. That potential relationship could have created extraordinary long-term access to influence and publicity for $mirks, if she could only have played a long game rather than trying to change an institution immediately and by herself. But such is a narcissist's belief in themselves that they alone are all that is needed.

Now we see a fractured relationship between two brothers and a family in general. Maybe Meg practiced sowing discord in her own family as a practice run?

What could have been. What could have been!
DesignDoctor said…
@Madge I agree that Harry is more isolated. IMO William is protecting his role in the Monarchy from the taint of the Harkle's disrespectful and dishonest behavior.. MM does not have an honest or respectful bone in her body. It beggars belief how she has played the whole Archificial charade. I do no believe for a nanosecond that she was actually pregnant and bore the baby herself. There are too many inconsistencies in the entire saga.
I was initially hopeful that a trip to CA was a way for Harry to enter treatment. But I now think it is just another means for MM to isolate him from his home, country, and family.. This was probably in her grand scheme from the very beginning. She has in no way attempted to embrace her new country or its culture. What a waste of opportunity!
The. best end to this sad story IMO would be for them to divorce with MM staying in CA and Harry returning to Britain to be released from her evil claws and be de-programmed. I hope Archie returns with Harry and escapes MM, too.
Fifi LaRue said…
A master narcissist like Markle is absolutely charming to outsiders while being 100% vile in private. (Been there.) In this case Markle will have Harry isolated and drinking/drugging while she pursues her dreams of being famous and feted. Both PH and Markle will take on the role of "angry drunk," just in their own way.
CookieShark said…
I see nothing "whip smart" about MM, she appears to be more of a destructive force that according to her own family, "tore them apart" (paraphrase). What has happened since she joined the RF? Perhaps she thinks her "surprise" events make her "whip smart" but they are small potatoes really. It might make someone feel good about themselves to contribute to her 1:1 SmartWorks campaign (is that still happening)? but it is not the same as providing shelter or medical care to seriously impoverished individuals. (FWIW, I have noticed a trend of MM liking photogenic subjects for her charities).

If she were truly "whip smart" she would have taken time to read the room and would never have driven the stake she did between William and Harry. I agree with others that it appears she wants to completely cut him off from his support system, other than herself. Nothing whip smart about a pampered royal having a lavish baby shower, taking expensive vacations, then announcing in the press she can't wait to be more than a royal and that she is barely surviving.
DesignDoctor said…
@rabbit The interesting aspect of Markle is that although narcissists ARE absolutely charming to outsiders while being 100% vile in public, somehow people see through Markle's facade. In my experience the narcissists I know are more skilled at maintaining their charming facade and fooling people into thinking they are wonderful human beings while being absolute terrors towards their intimates. Their behavior is very much Jekyll and Hyde. Whether it's her avarice or insincerity we see through Markle! I would love to see her kicked off the world's stage and back to obscurity in CA.
DesignDoctor said…
That would be 100%vile in private.
Louise said…
Agree, Cookie Shark. She has not done anything that would indicate that she has more than average intelligence.

She is good at reading and regurgitating slogans and ideas, but I haven't seen or heard anything original.
DesignDoctor said…
@Louise Nothing original at all. No original ideas, words, or style at all.
Lottie said…
Thanks for the great post Nutty
You are right about Prince William
I would say that it is as clear as day that PW has definitely had it up to the gills with Harry and I am sure that he and Kate are quietly happy that MM can take the reins and look after the petulant,unhappy,seething brat.
Oh, and i don't think for a nano second that Prince Harry is going to enjoy or last for too long at playing 'Mr regular Joe Blow' in California, especially after the novelty has worn off and he actually has to open his own car doors and do some real work with real hours
Heaven forbid,every time,every day?!
He will soon be begging to come back to Britain and knowing Harry he would expect to be handed back all of his entitlements.
Everybody knows,even Harry, that he is more than likely, incapable of flipping a burger,unassisted that is...
abbyh said…

SwampWoman "The Gods of the Copybook Headings" is pretty much a distillation of the knowledge of human nature.

Was not familiar with that one.

Jen, Veteran versus Remembrance Day. If she had a long history of supporting vets, I would buy this idea. But that's not notable in her wheelhouse. Any act of humanatarism being more about her, is.

I do agree that she would be hanging around for the Oscars (Feb. 9) after the crushing disappointment of missing it and the consolation of Morocco last year.

And, I could easily see her sowing the dissent along the way to anyone who she feels snubbed her and then up to cornering people there to give her work.

And, I think that she would wind up as a daily blind on Enty (as he has great sources in LA but not so much for UK/BRF).

I think the comments about cutting off Harry from his long time support, the access to recreationals would be a very sad and painful thing to watch for his family. Maybe that is what he needs?






Anonymous said…
She wore panty hose to remembrance festival last year too.
Maggie said…
@Veena - William and Kate are effectively executives in a large company with their own departments; it's not a mom and pop business where they are in each other's pockets. I'd bet that they don't see each other much during the day unless they have joint engagements.

Remember that until fairly recently Wills was an Air Ambulance pilot and prior to that worked in Air Sea Rescue. There's no doubt he has a strong work ethic. Meanwhile Kate has being raising the children as well as creating her own role within the RF; when she does become Queen Consort it's quite literally a job for life.

Unfortunately Harry hasn't found a direction which he can commit to and make sense out of his life; it's an absolute tragedy that he didn't marry someone who would share his life in a fulfilling and productive way. I'd lay money he thought he had.

BTW have we heard if they are taking the dogs with them or are they too old?
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Rut said…
I dont think Harry is going to be happy in California. In California, amongst her friends and family ( =mother ), Meghan will feel even more confident and ( if it is possible ) take charge even more. She is going to be all speed up. She is going to be like high with hubris.
Harry is a royal and have been brought up in a certain way. When he is in his "natural environment" he doesnt think about that. He can even think he is a "normal lad" But he is not. And he will be aware of that when in California with a crazy acting Meghan Markle and her shallow friends. Also... he is redhaired. The sun is not good for him.:)
Hikari said…
@Lizzie,

>>>@Nutty, She did wear hose to the garden party after the wedding. They were very light colored and shiny.
It just seems to me she could wear them when the Queen is present. A "whip-smart" person would IMO. And I'm sure she could find un-shiny hose to match her skin.<<<

Meghan's first public appearance as the Duchess of Sussex at Charles'garden party 3 or 4 days after the wedding was about the only time I can say she looked entirely appropriate for the venue. She took demure to an extreme in the blush pink number (with stockings!) and though it might not have been her best color (she looks better in stronger colors) I took it as a sign that she was trying hard to fit into her new role. It was only much later that I saw the 'sashaying booty' walk in or learned that Charles had actually expelled the Harkles from his own birthday party after 20 minutes. Smegs looked the part but couldn't help acting like herself.

I believe she wore hose to Charles's investiture remembrance, with the ostentatiously overdone foil-embellished evening gown at an afternoon tea reception--to which she was not even invited, so that was a wasted gesture.

I did like the Audrey Hepburn-in My Fair Lady inspired number at her first Royal Ascot, but she ruined her presentation by rudely turning her back on the Queen, to HM's face.

Meghan always puts a foot, usually both, completely wrong; she just cannot help herself. The lack of stockings are really the least of her problems, but their absence is symptomatic of her FU attitude toward anything she is asked to do which she does not feel like doing. Such a small simple thing to comply with, if it would generate some goodwill with the person who is not only her grandmother-in-law but also her employer.

What a hill to die on indeed. These Royal appearances demand a clothing aesthetic which is akin to a uniform and might not be what one would choose to wear on a date night. A real professional sucks it up and does what is required.
DesignDoctor said…
Harry will be in for a rude awakening of what being a normal lad entails. Agree that he is incapable of flipping burgers--maybe MM can give him lessons. We have all seen her burger flipping prowess in the Men's Health video!
Hikari said…
@abbyh,

>>>I think the comments about cutting off Harry from his long time support, the access to recreationals would be a very sad and painful thing to watch for his family. Maybe that is what he needs?<<<

I have a terrible premonition that if Harry severs ties with his family to go live in Hollywood with Smegs that one day in the not-too-distant future, 2 years? 5 years? Maybe not that long . . we will wake up one morning to learn that Harry has been discovered OD'd at the Chateau Marmont or some movie star mansion in the Hills. He's got no moorings of his own, and no judgment. All the Royal 'structure' which he chafes under is actually for his own good. Unless this toxic relationship with Meg can be ended soon, I think there's a very good chance indeed that Haz won't live to see 40.

I hope I am wrong. But look at the havoc she has wreaked on his appearance and state of mind in just one year. I'd bet dollars to donuts they are both doing hardcore drugs on the regular. I think that's what they bonded over in the first place.

Meg is a survivor. She is like an apocalyptic cockroach. Harry is not made of such hard stuff and he's not going to survive her long-term. One observer's opinion.

Maggie said…
The lack of deference and respect is going to be a killer for Harry in California. He's going to be an entertaining curiosity and his function will be as the star turn at any social occasion.

Meghan will know he's a figure of ridicule and won't lift a finger to protect him; it will be her revenge for his family not adoring her. God knows what it will do to his mental health.
Maggie said…
@Hikari - unfortunately I think your assessment is all too likely. Let's hope he cuts loose in time.

I picked up something on LSA today (I'll go and find it) where an old friend of MM'S reported her as saying that men are like carpets, the better you lay them the longer you can walk all over them. I can believe she said that.
SwampWoman said…
@Hikari

I have a terrible premonition that if Harry severs ties with his family to go live in Hollywood with Smegs that one day in the not-too-distant future, 2 years? 5 years? Maybe not that long . . we will wake up one morning to learn that Harry has been discovered OD'd at the Chateau Marmont or some movie star mansion in the Hills. He's got no moorings of his own, and no judgment. All the Royal 'structure' which he chafes under is actually for his own good. Unless this toxic relationship with Meg can be ended soon, I think there's a very good chance indeed that Haz won't live to see 40.

I hope I am wrong. But look at the havoc she has wreaked on his appearance and state of mind in just one year. I'd bet dollars to donuts they are both doing hardcore drugs on the regular. I think that's what they bonded over in the first place.


I think that she would rather be a royal widow than a divorcee.
Glow W said…
I’m famous!!! I’ve been mentioned on Skippy’s blog (thanks to the one who sent me the info)! The person thinks I’m MM!!! I feel so special now. Lol. For the record, I’m not MM. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m not paid by anyone 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m my own person 👍🏻 And I won’t be intimidated off this board.
Himmy said…
MM is a typical fame hungry z-listed Hollywood actress. She jumps in any trendy bandwagon in Tinseltown when she gets the chances. Most of the people can see through her after a period of time because she is very shallow and transparent.

I don’t think she is whip smart, but she has a hustler’s cunning. She can dupe not so smart Harry, but not the rest of his family. She explored Harry’s love for Diana and his jealousy towards William. She probably promised Harry they could be globetrotting humanitarians and hang out with Obama, Oprah, and Hollywood A-listers. They could outshine William and Kate and be admired wherever they go.

Something must have happened earlier this year that caused William to “drop his little brother like a hot brick”. He might have discovered Sussex misused the charity fund, secret surrogacy or other shady dealings they got themselves into.

I have less and less sympathy towards Harry each day. He’s made his bed and now he must lie in it. The word I could use to describe him now is “pathetic”. He must be really miserable, but he can see no way out of it. William and Kate must have tried to help him, but without any success. The biggest victim in this whole debacle is Archificial.

Madge said…
@Hikari. ".....Charles had actually expelled the Harkles from his own birthday party after 20 minutes."

Does anyone know why that happened. It certainly was very weird, but I can't remember reading why anywhere.
Marie said…
@abbyh That instragram post had me gagging. While I still do not think she's a narcissist in a clinical diagnosis, she clearly is like Stella McCartney too far into celebrity la-la land with their ability to turn any event that celebrates other people into one that celebrates themselves. Meg reminds me of those tiresome people who can turn any conversation, no matter how tenuous the thread connecting the two, back to herself. I don't find her physically dangerous, but I do find it emotionally damaging for celebrities to encourage this level of self-centeredness and self-referentially as "normal". We're seeing this with Harry. He's been talking all the time about his mental issues publicly and is only getting worse.

The (now) Duchess of Sussex - they sound like they are writing for historical posterity, instead of to the fact that everyone who bothers looking at that instagram knows she wasn't a Duchess back then.

Isn't Remembrance Day slightly different than Veterans Day? Veterans Day is for the military that survived all wars, and Remembrance Day commemorates those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, their lives? I do not want to be a troll towards the veterans for making the distinction, so can some enlighten?
Anonymous said…
@Madge the last consensus I read was since they had postponed their honeymoon to attend the party, they were reminded that it was time to leave so they wouldn’t miss whatever. I’m a truthist. I neither like nor dislike MM. I’m not a sugar as I see things she does wrong, like she doesn’t listen. I don’t think they were asked to leave. I think they were reminding it was time to leave.

At any rate. I wonder if Skippy will increase traffic to nutty’s blog here. Maybe the more moderate people will come here and Skippy can keep the tin foil hatters. That would be nice.
Humor Me said…
Nutty - great blog and replies. Yes - William is obviously preparing for his future role. He cannot be Harry's caretaker anymore - MM has that role and she is botching it big time. One would think that Harry would be William's right hand supporter (after Kate). IF something where to happen to Wills (God forbid), a Regency would be declared for the minor children. Kate, as Queen consort/ Queen Mother, Harry would possibly be declared Prince Regent to King George VII, along with one other royal. I just do not get Harry's detachment at such a critical point in the monarch with the Queen's age, Charles' age and possible health problems.
SwampWoman said…
Marie asked: Isn't Remembrance Day slightly different than Veterans Day? Veterans Day is for the military that survived all wars, and Remembrance Day commemorates those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, their lives? I do not want to be a troll towards the veterans for making the distinction, so can some enlighten?

Memorial Day, last Monday in May, is to remember and honor those that died in the service of their country which is our equivalent of your Remembrance Day, I believe. Veterans Day is to honor those that served buuut those that are currently serving are not kicked out of parades or celebrations (grin). Memorial Day (formerly Decoration Day) began in the 1860s. Veteran's Day began as Armistice Day after WWI. Armed Forces Day is to honor those currently serving but it is more of a minor holiday and nobody gets the day off but they have great parades!

I would not be honored on Memorial Day or Armed Forces Day but I would be honored on Veteran's Day. (Clear as mud?)
BigFanUSA said…
I'm a native Californian, I've been here for 34 years and I'm also a fan of the British royal family. I thought Meghan Markle was a Canadian actress with an unfortunate sounding name and first heard of her when Lainey Gossip posted "rumors" that she was dating Prince Harry. I can say with some certainty Californians in general will be mildly interested in a British Prince on our soil for a very short while. We like our British royals in Britain being royal. We have many many celebrities running around and to be honest, his presence here for longer than a few days will cheapen his *star power.* As for her, most of us still think she's Canadian.
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IEschew said…
@Hikari, re: Harry: I totally agree with you and I don’t think it matters whether Cali or another location. I think William and Catherine are both angry and worried. To me, this is tough love at its most difficult. What’s unclear to me is whether other members of the BRF see the issue in the same stark terms. This family must know what it’s up against, to see the likes of Oprah and Hillary Clinton, for whom I have zero respect entirely apart from politics, coming to the most bizarre defense of the vacuous Meghan. I believe there is much going on behind closed doors and I find all of it less entertaining and more depressing by the day. What sort of society do we want to live in? How free? I really think much of it is that serious.
SwampWoman said…
Looks like the poo-flinging monkeys have arrived to disrupt the discussion. Don't be pulled into an attempt to start blog wars and middle school drama.

Now, where were we? Oh, yes....Nutty - great blog and replies. Yes - William is obviously preparing for his future role. He cannot be Harry's caretaker anymore - MM has that role and she is botching it big time. One would think that Harry would be William's right hand supporter (after Kate). IF something where to happen to Wills (God forbid), a Regency would be declared for the minor children. Kate, as Queen consort/ Queen Mother, Harry would possibly be declared Prince Regent to King George VII, along with one other royal. I just do not get Harry's detachment at such a critical point in the monarch with the Queen's age, Charles' age and possible health problems.

That should be a huge concern for England. If William is truly done with Harry's nonsense, things must be very serious indeed. That is what worries me, along with who MM's backers are, how she got to this position (stop snickering) to begin with, and for what purpose?
hhstarr said…
Back to the question at hand... I think Harry would initially love LA. The weather, laid back, lots of drugs around. Stars (being shallow as most seem to be) will fawn over him and make sure he has a "good tome". it will get old and he will feel unfulfilled and hopefully realize quickly that drugs can't fill the void. Long term if they stay he will be miserable but I foresee the 6 week time as a huge party of fun for them.
Jen said…
@IEschew,

This family must know what it’s up against, to see the likes of Oprah and Hillary Clinton, for whom I have zero respect entirely apart from politics, coming to the most bizarre defense of the vacuous Meghan. I believe there is much going on behind closed doors and I find all of it less entertaining and more depressing by the day. What sort of society do we want to live in? How free? I really think much of it is that serious.

Totally agree.


Others here have mentioned Charles' health and Camilla. I think Charles is fine, maybe just drinks a bit much. He appeared fairly healthy in his documentary, I mean, he was doing some pretty heavy lifting, and seemed to handle it fine. Camilla on the other hand, I saw a video of her on the balcony, and her mouth was open like no one was upstairs. I do wonder about her health.
Nutty Flavor said…
OK, just spent 25 minutes cleaning up people arguing with each other. That's not what we do here, folks, so knock it off.

This is also not a blog to discuss Skippy.
Hikari said…
@Drabredcarpet,

>>>@Madge the last consensus I read was since they had postponed their honeymoon to attend the party, they were reminded that it was time to leave so they wouldn’t miss whatever. I’m a truthist. I neither like nor dislike MM. I’m not a sugar as I see things she does wrong, like she doesn’t listen. I don’t think they were asked to leave. I think they were reminding it was time to leave.<<<<

This may be true. No one was present to hear exactly what was said. All we have is the footage of Charles coming over, speaking very briefly to Harry in his ear, then turning on his heel and leaving Camilla to say goodbye, while an equerry or two hovers in the background as if to make sure the Harkles leave. Their demeamor of downcast, glum faces through the car window doesn't exactly speak "We are so excited to be leaving on honeymoon!" to me. They both looked like they'd been dressed down quite severely.

If it were true they were departing for the as-yet undiscovered honeymoon destination, it would have made more sense to arrive a later flight so they could stay longer than 20 minutes at their first official couple engagement which also marked Pa's birthday. So brief a visit could only arouse commentary after they got all dressed up for it--why not stay at least an hour? It's unclear whether they actually spoke to the guest of honor at all before he told them to go.
Madge said…
Thanks to everyone for replying to my query about why the Sussexes left the garden party early. I managed to miss all of that at the time! o_O
Button said…
There are so many conflicting ' reports ' about why the Harkles are going to California and for how long. If it is true that Harry will follow Smegs, as he has an event scheduled for him, then it is entirely plausible that at some point HM will have a quiet word. I do hope for Harrys` sake that he listens to whatever advice HM and the family will give. Harry has made his choices and now it is time to pay the price. If he remains in California then perhaps he could take up surfing and give lessons. I also think that being isolated from his family and having to be in close quarters with Smegs will really really open his bloodshot eyes. Perhaps then he will realise " Oh shit. What have I done? " Will he come buggering back to the UK hat in hand? I am also quite curious to know that if Harkles` do take up residence in California who will be paying for their upkeep? I certainly don't think the UK taxpayers would be to chuffed if their upkeep becomes the responsibility of the UK taxpayer.
CatEyes said…
@Nutty

So we can't discuss something (and name the blog( we saw on another site? Or just discuss the blog, like has been mentioned about people's experiences on Lip Stick Alley, or observations/opinions on Meghan's Mirror's?
Glow W said…
I’m not sure they are even going to california. Maybe for Thanksgiving for a week or two like people do, but I don’t think (that I have seen) anyone confirmed the 6 week break from any official sources.

Can anyone help me on this one? Thanks.
Fairy Crocodile said…
I am sorry to say this but I for one will be satisfied if Harry fails in his USA enterprise. He doesn't have much to contribute other than saucy stories about the royals and how badly and unfeelingly they treat "vulnerable" people like his mother - and this is what everybody including Oprah will be after. He is tired of his protected, cushioned life with so many restrictions and traditions to follow - he is welcome to live in the real world that loves victors and forgets the whingers very quickly. As for Meghan - it is clear that she doesn't fit with the royal family that must do boring things. I bear her no ill will and think it would be better for all if she finds herself a niche somewhere merching things or pushing her agenda, possibly with Harry possibly not.
Nutty Flavor said…
This is a blog about the Sussexes. You can speak about other bloggers when discussing information they share about the Sussexes (ie is it reliable or unreliable). We’re not here to discuss other bloggers’ mental health.

No shouting at or disparaging other posters. Just respectfully disagree with their points.
Miss K said…
Great post Nutty, I think this is a really interesting topic. I think Harry truly doesn’t understand what he’s getting himself into coming to the US. As an American,I don’t like the idea of them having royal titles in the US, and I’m sure I’m not alone in this. Even the president of the United States has to expect that constituents may, and can, call him by his first name. Trying to use royal titles truly goes against our cultural values. Some in the media may enjoy fawning over them, but regular folk are not going to genuflect to Harry, who has probably never lived a day in his life without people bowing and scraping to him. I’m sure even in the military he had people calling him HRH. We don’t have royalty, we don’t have an aristocracy, we don’t have inherited titles. We fought a war over this (among other things). So I don’t think they will get the butt kissing here that they hoped for. Harry is certainly in for a rude awakening, as some people may even be rude or hostile toward him over this.

Yes, we do have prominent and wealthy families here in America, such as the Bush family or the Kennedys. But we truly value the idea that no one is “above” anyone else and that anyone can achieve anything here, regardless of origins. We love the British and see them as dear cousins, but it really is different here. I know Harry loves the idea of American values, but I think the experience of our values will be very difficult for him after the initial charm wears off. He will be less than useless. Uneducated, unemployable trustifarians are a dime a dozen here, and the regular folk in America hold them in disdain. Unless they hole themselves up in Beverly Hills or Williamsburgh they will encounter hostility, and isolating themselves in the US will be far worse for Harry than doing the same in the U.K. At least there he has access to family, help, respect and affection from more people than he currently acknowledges. This is a recipe for disaster.

So, that said, I think Meghan fully understands this. I think she is dragging him to the US knowing this. Why??? Is she deliberately trying to damage his self esteem by showing him how unimportant he will be here? Is this about control? When she is back here, she will have all the power & he will have very little. Is this about humiliating Harry and the royal family at large?
SwampWoman said…
This may be true. No one was present to hear exactly what was said. All we have is the footage of Charles coming over, speaking very briefly to Harry in his ear, then turning on his heel and leaving Camilla to say goodbye, while an equerry or two hovers in the background as if to make sure the Harkles leave. Their demeamor of downcast, glum faces through the car window doesn't exactly speak "We are so excited to be leaving on honeymoon!" to me. They both looked like they'd been dressed down quite severely.

Indeed. How likely is it that guest of honor at his own party would be the one keeping up with when youngest son and wife were leaving on their honeymoon? It looked more like a "Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you" moment to me.
Lottie said…
@Madge
Why Sussexes left the garden party early

I read that they were asked to leave the garden party because MM, perhaps not knowing the protocol was upstaging Charles
It being Charles's birthday and MM (acting like Mrs Commoner and not Mrs Duchess) had accepted a gift from another guest.
If you watch a video you can see she accepts a gift and shortly after and rightly so, they are asked to leave
Harry being a Royal and her caring, loving husband could have advised her of the correct protocol
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Anonymous said…
Have read numerous commentary on how hard the BRF worked to rehabilitate Harry after the Las Vegas debacle. Also, aside from anything even remotely Nazi-sequel being a huge issue, but hello, how much of London, Coventry, Plymouth, and Glasgow was incinerated during WWII by the Nazis? WTF was he thinking? I had relatives who lived through the Blitz. That little stunt put me forever in the “never harry” camp, but I’m digressing. My point is that the problem with California is not that he will fall apart. I get the sense that Harry is always a hair away from falling apart. That his addiction issues continue (admittedly I have no proof but in how many of their joint appearances do these two appear high—not drunk—but definitely on drugs). And that what the BRF does is keep his excesses out of the media, lean on him when he threatens to dive way too deep, etc. His problem in California will be exactly what he seems to legitimately crave. A release from the long arm of the BRF, which has, IMO, for many years stopped him from sliding into crippling addiction. Perhaps William’s disgust with Harry is that he is weary of his brother’s issues, and his marked dislike of Ms. Markle is because she is encouraging the very worst traits in Harry’s psyche, traits that the BRF has done cartwheels to both contain and attempt to ameliorate. All gone up in smoke with the arrival with a two-bit grifter who can’t even manage to wear a wig properly.
SwampWoman said…
Miss K said: So, that said, I think Meghan fully understands this. I think she is dragging him to the US knowing this. Why??? Is she deliberately trying to damage his self esteem by showing him how unimportant he will be here? Is this about control? When she is back here, she will have all the power & he will have very little. Is this about humiliating Harry and the royal family at large?

It is puzzling, isn't it? Where she wants to do this is also strange, a place where your A-list status depends on your last hit movie, television show, or top-selling music. Is she such an empty, needy, pathetic person that she will destroy Harry (and Archie, if he exists) for a brief time just to be fawned over? Is it a making hay while the sun shines situation because she knows her marriage is crumbling, and she wants to grab as much $$$ as possible while she's still relevant? It's a mystery.

(If I wanted to grab as many $$$ as possible, I'd try to do so in a less taxed environment where my $$$ would go further.)
SwampWoman said…
Wizardwench: His problem in California will be exactly what he seems to legitimately crave. A release from the long arm of the BRF, which has, IMO, for many years stopped him from sliding into crippling addiction. Perhaps William’s disgust with Harry is that he is weary of his brother’s issues, and his marked dislike of Ms. Markle is because she is encouraging the very worst traits in Harry’s psyche, traits that the BRF has done cartwheels to both contain and attempt to ameliorate. All gone up in smoke with the arrival with a two-bit grifter who can’t even manage to wear a wig properly.

I wonder if the California government will work to keep him from being deported if he's picked up on drug issues.
Lurking said…
Nutty... There were reports that Harry was photographed in Japan holding a beer and Smeg went ballistic. Do we really believe Harry was ever on the wagon? Teatotaler?
There are lots of addicts who control their drinking/drug taking and are able to function somewhat normally for prolonged periods of time. All those scruffy appearances?

Harry in California may be his final downfall... and not just from alcohol. Marijuana is legal, possession for personal use of other controlled substances in small quantities is decriminalized, with the possessor receiving a ticket to appear in court. If he has fallen off the wagon or was never on it to begin with, this trip is not a good idea. I don't think this trip is for rehab. Generally someone is shuffled off to rehab post haste if they have the finances to do so... which Harry has.

This trip is a trial run to determine their earning potential in L.A. If they are received warmly, able to make contacts, and attract the right people to whatever projects they have in mind, we will see them spending more and more time in L.A. or (heaven forbid) taking their "brand" global as they've threatened. They do not have to be based in L.A. to get the backing of money from L.A. They just have to show up to schmooze the right people from time to time.

Also think of the timing... to get a project off the ground takes quite some time. They are laying the foundation for something next spring/summer or even the year after. There is time for a second pregnancy and recovery before a project in mid 2021.
Button said…
@wizardwench
" All gone up in smoke with the arrival with a two-bit grifter who can’t even manage to wear a wig properly."
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Very true and funny at the same time. What is puzzling me about the whole debacle from the beginning is who the bloody hell is Rachel Markle and where did she come from? I am not talking about the tabloid rubbish, they dated, she interviewed at Vogue, she crashed Inskips wedding, etc. Seriously, how can a two-bit grifter like her weasel her way into the BRF and then has the ' backing ' of someone like Killery Clinton? There is much more going on behind the royal drapes. And I do agree with Miss K that Smegs is very well aware of how Harry will circle the drain if they stay in California.
Anonymous said…
“Small amounts” is for recreation 1/2 ounce of flower and up to 8 grams vape cartridges or edibles PER DAY, which is a super large amount! Harry would be like a kid in a candy store if he has a problem.
Lurking said…
@wizardwitch...

>> the BRF worked to rehabilitate Harry after the Las Vegas debacle... for many years stopped him from sliding into crippling addiction.<<

I read a very interesting take on the Las Vegas debacle last week. The BRF allowed the nude pictures to be released in exchange for not releasing pictures from the same incident that showed drugs strewn about. Also, many people aren't aware that Steve Wynn comped the entire stay (food, booze, and accommodations) to the tune of $30k.
lizzie said…
@drabredcarpet--- How about cocaine penalties? I've never thought pot in any form would be Harry's downfall (or is even his most likely current addiction.)
Jenx said…
I share @Hikari's sentiments. I am increasingly concerned about Harry and try to convince myself that there is no child within her reach. IMO Harry being out of the Royal bubble will leave him vulnerable to abuse. I really think he is being mistreated on many levels and watching her divisiveness and isolating him from the family so quickly is unnerving. I also think some of the contradictions in his behaviour could be akin to the cycle of abuse. Power and control by MM.

California may be fun for him for awhile but how on earth can he leave the cosseted Royal lifestyle behind? And isn't he on an ISIS hit list or something that requires some very high level protection?

The Oscars? What business would MM have being there? I would be surprised if she wangled a front and centre invite, especially among the real acting royalty. Her 15 minutes are nearly up. I hope.
Anonymous said…
@lizzie cocaine, while illegal, is surely easy to get.

As an aside, I though Harry had one more engagement by I don’t see it anymore on the royal diary.
Anonymous said…
@tatty apparently a break has never been confirmed by any official sources. I don’t know what that might mean though as these two seem to go rouge
Fairy Crocodile said…
@wizardwench Well said. Royal Family did a great amount of damage limitation and rehabilitation after Harry's Nazi party costume fiasco. But people do remember and for me this is a major reason not to like him. He wasn't a toddler then and knew what he was doing. Actually the British press is remarkably well behaved. Just imagine them putting his "Nazi" pic next to him saluting the veterans yesterday! That would undo Harry but at the same time forever ruin what is left of fragile relations between media and RF
Anonymous said…
I live in California. I seriously doubt that anything Harry would do (even buying off the street) would ever make it to the papers, never mind seeing him in a mug shot. Hollywood's drug culture is pervasive and exactly the sort of environment that could be fatal to someone like Harry. Also, not surprised that Steve Winn comped that hot tub party. It worked for him big time to have a royal walking around. Perhaps not in Nazi regalia, but Harry's presence would be PR that he couldn't buy. It also gives Winn a hold over the BRF. A win-win.
Lurking said…
@lizzie... in California, simple possession without intent to sell is a misdemeanor. Although the law allows up to 1 year in county jail, the reality is that in most jurisdictions, a ticket is written to appear in court and a fine is assessed. We've given up on enforcing drug laws here.
SwampWoman said…
Button said: Very true and funny at the same time. What is puzzling me about the whole debacle from the beginning is who the bloody hell is Rachel Markle and where did she come from? I am not talking about the tabloid rubbish, they dated, she interviewed at Vogue, she crashed Inskips wedding, etc. Seriously, how can a two-bit grifter like her weasel her way into the BRF and then has the ' backing ' of someone like Killery Clinton? There is much more going on behind the royal drapes. And I do agree with Miss K that Smegs is very well aware of how Harry will circle the drain if they stay in California.

Hillary doesn't do anything that doesn't benefit herself politically or financially, so it is an excellent question. I don't know that we'll ever have satisfactory answers. I have a feeling that if whatever has been happening behind the scenes, so to speak, is made public, it will be long after we have shuffled off this mortal coil.
Hikari said…
Nobody ever died from toking on a doobie, unless they swallow it and choke.

Pot will not be Haz's downfall. Nor alcohol. Liver damage takes decades to kill. H. has already moved on to harder stuff. I suspect both the Harkles are regular cocaine users, and possibly pills, too. Going to Hollywood, when you're a celebrity figure with ready money is like turning a kid loose in a candy store. Only this candy kills.

I think Meghan, with her self-interest driving her like a freight train, has a habit that she can still manage, though over the last year she has turned up for public engagements looking chemically altered a number of times. Harry has never been aces at self-management. He is very vulnerable to excess. And rather than helping him, I think she'll enable his habit. As someone put it . . the optics would be so much better (not to mention the financial remuneration) if she becomes Harry's widow (in his prime, so young!) rather than his embittered ex-wife battling for every crumb she can get in the courts.

She'd get to be the young and glamorous Mourner-in-Chief, ala Jackie K.
The Family would be under pressure to be incredibly generous with the support for the sole surviving parent of Archie.
She'd get to be the one and only Duchess of Sussex forever. Doubtful that King William or anyone after him will resurrect this title.
All the sympathy PR pouring in from all over the world . . she could dine out on that for decades to come.
She'd have an unimpeachable reason to stay in the States forever, in the bosom of her 'American friends and family' if her tie to the UK was deceased.
She would be instantly transformed into Saint Meghan, the Grieving. No need for a nasty down and dirty divorce trial with any of her skeletons poking out. The grieving widow is instantly transformed into whiter than snow.

Unless, of course, the police are able to uncover her involvement in her spouse's death. I'd like to see if Meg's tissue paper palace of lies would hold up under a Quantico-trained FBI interrogator . . .a Will Graham type figure well-versed in dealing with psychopaths. Meg gets away with her lies because so far, no one has called her out on them. She pays off, threatens or abandons anyone who starts to get a clue about her. That stuff doesn't work on the FBI.

God forbid anything worse happen to Harry than he's already experienced. My prayer for hte New Year is that he comes to his senses and ends this before she ends him, either overtly or by the slow-drip method.
Jen said…
@Button and Swampwoman,

Button said: Very true and funny at the same time. What is puzzling me about the whole debacle from the beginning is who the bloody hell is Rachel Markle and where did she come from? I am not talking about the tabloid rubbish, they dated, she interviewed at Vogue, she crashed Inskips wedding, etc. Seriously, how can a two-bit grifter like her weasel her way into the BRF and then has the ' backing ' of someone like Killery Clinton? There is much more going on behind the royal drapes. And I do agree with Miss K that Smegs is very well aware of how Harry will circle the drain if they stay in California.

Hillary doesn't do anything that doesn't benefit herself politically or financially, so it is an excellent question. I don't know that we'll ever have satisfactory answers. I have a feeling that if whatever has been happening behind the scenes, so to speak, is made public, it will be long after we have shuffled off this mortal coil.


Sara Latham...that's the connection. Sara may have thought that MM needed some big names to step in and give her a boost...she had Michelle Obama for the interview, now Hillary Clinton for the "she's a powerful woman, blah blah blah." Hillary is the last person I'd go to for any recommendation as she used her husband (oh wait...sound familiar?) to get to where she was.

Debra said…
I think Harry will actually love it in California. My guess is that what attracted him to Meghan in the first place is that he is probably a secret freak and MM indulged him with sex and drugs. I believe everyone warned him not to marry her and keep her as a side piece only, but she probably threatened to cut him off from her magic vagina and he caved. I think he thought that because she is an actress she could act the part of a lady. Well here we are 2 years later and she clearly can't fake it at all, in fact I think that the reason the prostitution/porn rumors about her won't go away is because she is so clearly trailer trash.

Moving to California means that Harry will have an easier time indulging his worst desires and will want to stay, therefore I agree with Hikari and he will be dead within 3 years. My opinion only of course....
Anonymous said…
@SwampWomen I continually ask myself why Ms. Markle didn't play the long game. I can only conclude that she was too greedy. She saw her "sell" date was fast approaching, and she needed to "merch" what she could out of the BRF as fast as possible. Although I think there was always a contingent of the British public who would never accept her (this is from a U.S. perspective), there seemed to be enough of a percentage that were willing to do so and she could have increased that "fan" base had she just played the game. Had she out-Kate'd Kate. She only had to put in three years of adhering to every single miniscule bit of protocol, and she could have waltzed away with the moon. She could have had close to the level of support that Diana had if she'd just bided her time and ACTED like she was more royal than the royals. But no, she went the merching route, flaunted her wokeness route, the "I'm going to show you" route, appearing at solemn events with her "girls" threatening to pop out from her bra. Had she had the patience, she could have exited as did Diana, with money, a large fan base, and all those potential magazine covers. She could have thrown Harry to the wolves then, his addiction issues, his mental instability, ALL Of that would have been enough to have the narrative to back up her exit (much like Diana did by exposing Charles). Yet, she didn't want to put in the time. Her greed won out. Now she's fighting for a settlement and she's despised by many, with the exception of a few who identify with her and her bot farm. Had she appeared in demure clothes with a classic twist, all those gifs and jpegs of her looking like a prostitute sizing up her next john would have seemed racist and calculated to shame her. It was a fatal error on her part that for so many years she opted to adopt this sex kitten persona. But spilt milk. Being classy and demure would have gone a LONG WAY to dispelling or at least making the airing of those jpegs appear petty. But, no. She got on that merching train and couldn't (or wouldn't) acknowledge that she wasn't twenty-five anymore. She's stuck in some mental time warp where she's young, sexy, and a little dangerous. It continues to be the most deliberate act of self-sabotage I've seen in years.
Tea Cup said…
I believe Harry never has and never will truly bear the consequences of his contemptible behavior while Charles walks the earth. HMTQ takes a hands off approach in general, but particularly in this case this is Charles' son and therefore his responsibility to handle. Charles has proven an impotent authority figure and effectively coddled Harry all his life to detriment . I see now that Meghan is the karma Harry deserves and whatever misery he suffers is the result of his own foolish device. I hope the Preach and Leach permanently decamp to LA. Give them all they want--minus their royal privileges--and leave them to wallow in the vacuous celebrity sewage. I have no pity for Harry whatsover.
Anonymous said…
I triple checked. Harry is NOT listed in the Royal Diary as having an appearance on the 17th of November.
lizzie said…
"Harry on Sunday will attend the inaugural OnSide Awards at the Royal Albert Hall on Sunday 17th November 2019."


From yesterday's Mirror https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-spend-20862479

Also from https://www.onsideyouthzones.org/onside-awards/

"HRH Prince Harry will join a short reception where he will meet young Youth Zone attendees and award nominees.  His Royal Highness will then deliver a short speech before presenting the OnSide Health and Wellbeing Award."

So pretty weird if he doesn't show.
Anonymous said…
Yes, strange. He must be attending but I don’t know why he was on the diary and then not on the diary. Oh well. Time will tell.
Hikari said…
@Wizardwench,

I reproduce just the last bit of your excellent post above.

>>> It was a fatal error on her part that for so many years she opted to adopt this sex kitten persona. But spilt milk. Being classy and demure would have gone a LONG WAY to dispelling or at least making the airing of those jpegs appear petty. But, no. She got on that merching train and couldn't (or wouldn't) acknowledge that she wasn't twenty-five anymore. She's stuck in some mental time warp where she's young, sexy, and a little dangerous. It continues to be the most deliberate act of self-sabotage I've seen in years.<<<

If Meg and Harry were a couple of 20-year-olds, some of her missteps would have been benignly tolerated and forgiven. Catherine did not always have the polished and rather Mumsy look she has now. When she was 25, she dressed her age and got tipsy in clubs. She held on to the schoolgirl hair for quite a while even after marrying William. But she grew up, quite literally before our eyes. The salient difference between her and Megs (apart from personality disorders) is that Kate is in the Firm for life and behaves accordingly. The flash-in-the-pan showgirl was never going to be a lifer. On the wedding day,if I'm honest, I gave the union 3-5 years, but I really thought she'd make more of an effort at the start to at least pretend to be a Duchess.

She'd had a little taste of success as a starlet/blogger/spokesmodel, but marrying Harry catapulted her into a whole other stratosphere. For a more mature, talented and serious-minded person who calls herself an actress--playing the Duchess of Sussex was the role of a lifetime . . and unlike even an Oscar-winning movie role was poised to last for decades, life even, if she'd wanted. From an actor's standpoint, so much to learn, so much craft to apply at the job of Duchessing. If Meg had been even a tiny bit talented at acting, and in the least caring about presenting herself well to the public and the family, she could have pulled this off so well. All the elements of her public role which other royals struggle with, not being trained media pros--the public speaking, the relentless cameras--ostensibly were things she was going to ace.

Meg never meant any of those great things she said to snag Harry and to initially convince his family that she'd be an asset. She always was going to take the money and run--but how limited, how small-minded and unimaginative she is. She is actually not smart or savvy enough to play this long game and do what the job of being royal demands. It looks easy and Meg fatally miscalculated that there's more to being a success at it and winning people's goodwill than meets the eye. She's been faking it her whole life and just assumed that she could continue to fake it, just on a bigger scale.

She's had any number of great opportunities in her life which she squandered in her relentless quest for more fame and money . . the diplomatic internship in Argentina, her One Young World contract, her association with Reitmans . . Suits, which could have run longer for her if she'd been easier to work with. Her entre into the BRF was the cherry on the sundae--she could have been a legend for the ages like Princess Grace of Monaco, and who knows, if she'd settled in and really tried, maybe she would have fallen legitmately in love with her husband instead of just using him for his position.

She'll be a legend, all right, but of the notorious variety. I think she's actually not intelligent enough to have any capacity for self-reflection. Narcissism is a smokescreen that creates the aura of a highly intelligent person, but actually Meghan has a profound emotional disability for which there is no cure. From Princess of the United Kingdom to washed-up Beverly Hills Real Housewife and talk show tragedy ... it's a'comin, eventually.
Madge said…
I think a large portion of the British public did have a lot of good will towards Harry and were delighted at the thought he had found someone, and that he was outgrowing his irresponsible party days. I don't think Markle being American or mixed race had, or has, anything to do with it. I mean, come on - we are a very diverse country, it wouldn't matter to the vast majority of us where she came from, or from which heritage.

That good will though disappeared pretty quickly with Markle's tone deaf behaviour and Harry's tantrums ("what Meghan wants, Meghan gets"). We may only be a small country and not much influence in the world these days, but that doesn't mean we want to have wokeness and virtue-signalling shoved down our throats in a bid to "modernise" our ancient royal family. We like it a bit archaic, it works okay that way.

Harry then made things worse with his insistance on everyone instantly loving her and respecting her ("...everyone hug Meghan!"). Both those things, love and respect, between royalty and public are earned. Harry and William got a lot of latitude because of losing Diana. William built on that latitude to earn respect, but Harry abused it.

@MischiefGirl. "I really like Nutty's suggestion that Meg could have gone on a listening and learning tour of Great Britain rather than working to impose woke-ness onto the public from day one of her marriage."

This above could have worked so well. No hoopla, no fuss, just visiting the places which make Britain British. She had so many good examples to learn from like Kate, Sophie and the Princess Royal. And we have such racial diversity that Markle could have done so much good had she not been so intent on lecturing us with her patronising word salads. And then there were the real foot in mouth episodes. Dublin, New Zealand, Fiji come to mind, along with decolonisation of our universities, telling our young people that our older people are unconsciously biased and useless, choosing to attend a film premiere instead of a Royal Marine memorial to murdered Marines, the list goes on.

The result is that large portions of the media have her pegged as an opportunist with no respect for us or our culture, and it's becoming evident that they are speaking for increasing sections of the population. And now the British public are being made the bad guys, our newspapers are being sued for giving an opinion, law suits threatened, doxing threatened (and in some cases being done).

The Harkle Debarcle want it all on their own terms. Problem is, they have overlooked that their privileged position depends on the tax payer and public approval. Things have gone so far that I think it's irretrievable. And as many others have said in other comment columns and blogs - thank heavens for William and Kate.
Jen said…
If they were to stay in LA longer than the agreed upon 6 weeks, would the security detail head home? I cannot imagine a British public being happy to pay for their royal security and other niceties while in America for an extended period (when they aren't there on behalf of HM). No other royal does that, and as has been said numerous times, he's not a top royal any more.
Marie said…
@swampwoman, thank you, your explanation was good and clearer than mud! And my take of it then is for Me-me-me to post a photo of her entertaining the troops for Veterans Day as an equivalent to Remembrance Day when you have Memorial Day is simply another sign of her failing to embrace her new country. So indeed the Americans also see the importance of a time and place for celebrating and thanking the surviving military or the currently serving military versus commemorating those who did not come back. Remembrance Day is of another character altogether. It is far more sombre and reflective and certainly has little to do with that stage show she did for the American troops. I imagine her inauthentic facial expressions during the cross-laying ceremony came about from her thinking that she personally is speaking for the voiceless.

My opinion is that if she marries into the British Royal Family and to someone who is unimportant in the line of succession but nevertheless will be the son of a reigning monarch eventually, she needs to give American traditions a tactful backseat to the British ones. She panders so much to the American audience. It is annyoing that she is using her tax-payer funded platform to court favour with the Americans. I don't follow Danish royals, but Princess Mary of Denmark seems to have largely navigated that. She celebrates the holidays of her adopted country publicly and takes her children home to Australia on their free time and probably does other Australian traditions but privately. Not on an Instagram. It is maddening that the news agencies do not pick up this either.
Glow W said…
I believe I read something that said their break starts on the 18th, but I can’t remember where or if it was even a legit source.
Anonymous said…
@ Hikari. I agree with what you wrote. Were they fifteen years younger, then the public might be more forgiving. Or at least they wouldn't have a decade of lies to try to reconcile. Kate has done a phenomenal job is aging into her role. And let's not fool ourselves. Don't you think that William and Kate miss those days when they could go to a pub, tie one on, and lean against each other as they stumble out the door? But they both know those days are over.

I think Grace Kelly would have been a good role model for Ms. Markle. Grace wasn't from the dysfunctional mess that characterizes the Markle family (a very conservative Irish Catholic family), but she had the reputation of being a bit wild and slept with many of her co-stars, allegedly. She had a very passionate affair with William Holden and had intended to marry him, but when she found out that he'd had a vasectomy and couldn't father children, she ended the affair; she wanted kids. I read an interview with her as to why she left Hollywood. She basically said she'd reached her sell date (as has Ms Markle). Grace wasn't yet relegated to being cast as a mother, but her days of being that cool but sexy blonde with top billing were numbered. It was sad that she didn't find her happiness in Monaco, but she was smart enough to recognize that her Hollywood image had its limitations and that she needed to get out of Dodge.

Would that Ms. Markle had used Grace as her blueprint! Done a 180 on the sex kitten thing. Seen her marriage to Harry as an excellent opportunity to remake her image into something very different. You know, AGAIN, she still could have made the SJW thing work on some level had she not been such an effing hypocrite about it and hypercritical to boot, like it was her mission to "rescue" the monarchy from its parochial ways, which is so effing rich as Charles was promoting organic farming decades ago and was labeled a nutjob for it. She could have legitimately championed his efforts and made it about HIM and how on point he was so many years ago. Hats off to my FIL! Except she didn't, because all roads lead to Ms. Markle, Narcissists R Us. Had she made a point of flying commercial and didn't spout about empowerment for women and then clearly use her body as the only tool in her toolbox aside from word salad as she appears at solemn events with her boobs hanging out, then people might taken her more seriously. Why is she shocked at the criticism? I'm being dead serious here. I mean, REALLY? I'm not saying that she has to dress like a nun. But what I am saying is that she continuously falls short in understanding that her clothes are speaking for her and what they are saying is either "I know this doesn't fit me at all, but I'm making a ton of money by being photographed in Stella's coat" or, frankly, "come on down." Ms. Markle has a bullhorn, and what her clothes are saying is: "I'm for sale."
Mimi said…
My humble opinion only....I do not believe M can drag Harry any place he does not want to go. If H and M come to the U.S. I don’t think it will be for the entire six weeks. If they do come as a couple it might be for a small visit. The holidays are a nice time for a visit here. Doria has her own life so I don’t think she would want to spend more than a couple of days with them. As for baby Archie..if they do come to visit they might borrow the baby for some Desmond Tutu like photo ops and then he will go back into seclusion. As for where they might stay, what they might do, your guess is as good as mine. If Harry visits I am hoping he stays long enough to realize that this is NOT his country, these are NOT his people, this is NOT where he belongs. Harry might return after a brief visit and Meghan might want to stay a bit longer or they might return return together. In any case, it will be very interesting to see what happens during the next six weeks.
SwampWoman said…
Marie said: @swampwoman, thank you, your explanation was good and clearer than mud! And my take of it then is for Me-me-me to post a photo of her entertaining the troops for Veterans Day as an equivalent to Remembrance Day when you have Memorial Day is simply another sign of her failing to embrace her new country. So indeed the Americans also see the importance of a time and place for celebrating and thanking the surviving military or the currently serving military versus commemorating those who did not come back. Remembrance Day is of another character altogether. It is far more sombre and reflective and certainly has little to do with that stage show she did for the American troops. I imagine her inauthentic facial expressions during the cross-laying ceremony came about from her thinking that she personally is speaking for the voiceless.

I do not wish to defend MM in any way, shape, or form, but the sad fact is that the state of education is such that she may not actually know the difference between Memorial and Veteran's Day, particularly in the leftist schools that she attended. If she was trying to curry favor with the military of either country, she messed up.
Mimi said…
p.s. thanks to whoever mentioned the Crown of Britain website. It is light hearted and very funny!
SwampWoman said…
@WizardWench, thank you for the excellent analysis! I'm puzzled as well, and my only rational conclusion was that she never meant to make a go of it there. Yet, she didn't want to put in the time. Her greed won out. Now she's fighting for a settlement and she's despised by many, with the exception of a few who identify with her and her bot farm. Had she appeared in demure clothes with a classic twist, all those gifs and jpegs of her looking like a prostitute sizing up her next john would have seemed racist and calculated to shame her. It was a fatal error on her part that for so many years she opted to adopt this sex kitten persona. But spilt milk. Being classy and demure would have gone a LONG WAY to dispelling or at least making the airing of those jpegs appear petty. But, no. She got on that merching train and couldn't (or wouldn't) acknowledge that she wasn't twenty-five anymore. She's stuck in some mental time warp where she's young, sexy, and a little dangerous. It continues to be the most deliberate act of self-sabotage I've seen in years.

KayeC said…
@Marie, you brought up a great point. Princess Mary of Denmark is Australian and Queen Maxima of the Netherlands is Argentinian. Both of these women have not only embraced their new homeland's culture, but also a new language. They are both excellent examples of what MM could have achieved, but I believe she threw her Duchess Handbook out the window the day they gave it to her. DoC is British and it still took her several years to successfully navigate royal engagements.

Now, instead, Harry will be the one embracing a new culture....US west-coast culture....lol...good luck with that Prince of the UK!
CatEyes said…
@SwampWoman

I think I am going to take that glass of rose you offered last night. Ha Ha!
SwampWoman said…
Off topic, I wish to express my condolences to Australia for their terrible fire conditions as well as to the UK for their horrible flooding problems.
Glow W said…
A lot of citizens dislike Queen Maxima. They say she is rude and condescending.
Unknown said…
MM is not an evil genius. She is not a mystic sorceress. She is a nearly middle-age woman, who knows how to manipulate people to (temporarily) get her way. But she doesn't have a master plan beyond getting married to a Prince and getting famous. In my opinion, she's bolting for California because she expected a child's version of Nick Jr "The Princess Life Of Parties And Penthouses" and is getting the National Geographic version of "Duchess'ing Is A Real And Often Boring Job Spotlighting Regular People Doing Necessary Things (And Sometimes Listening To Your Father-In-Laws Bespoke Harpist)".

She has no game, not really. This was a dream job that, as many of you had noted, required very, very, very little effort to not screw up. She couldn't even do that. She wants friendly faces and friendly PR - she doesn't care about what this does to Harry - he's got zero consideration in this. She just wants to get away. I'm actually quite sorry for the whole lot of them, but most especially for her father.
CatEyes said…
@KayeC " Now, instead, Harry will be the one embracing a new culture....US west-coast culture....lol...good luck with that Prince of the UK! "

Having lived in Caifornia 35 years, I just don't see how Harry will like it after the novelty wears off. Too many reasons to list!
Mimi said…
tatty,, this is off topic but I am curious...what is your take on what Queen Letizia did at the church when she created that spectacle when she yanked on her daughters ear etc?
gabes_human said…
Lol Swamp Woman: Seamed stockings and a garter belt... . I have friends in the legal field who must wear stockings in the courtroom. You don’t know torture until you have donned pantyhose in New Orleans in August. Some of us took a page from our grandmother’s book and chose thigh high stockings. With or without the garter belt. This eliminates the stuffed sausage feeling while conforming to the rules.
Maggie said…
@SmampWoman - I really don't understand how MM could fail to appreciate the meaning of Remembrance Day. It marks the end of WW1 at 11am on 11th November 1918. There are war memorials in villages throughout the UK. Of 16,000 villages only 41 did not lose one of their sons in that war. There are Services of Remembrance at every one of those memorials. The whole country observes two minutes silence at 11 o'clock. It is the day when we remember all those who have died to save our way of life.

It is a profoundly important day in Markle's adoptive country. For her to diss it by posting images of herself with the US Army is so egregious it is beyond words. I don't believe it is ignorance but a massive FU. I only hope that it marks the farewell of the soon to be former Duchess of Sussex.
As a Brit, I thought Meghan was going to be a great addition to the BRF and was really happy that Harry had found someone. I expected mistakes to be made but MM refuses to learn from them and her constant support of anything except British is seen as disdain. If Harry does spend a lot of time in the States, he will never be forgiven. His grandfather is pushing 100, his grandmother 93.
Hikari said…
@Unknown,

You win a virtual Starbucks for this post today:

>>>MM is not an evil genius. She is not a mystic sorceress. She is a nearly middle-age woman, who knows how to manipulate people to (temporarily) get her way. But she doesn't have a master plan beyond getting married to a Prince and getting famous. In my opinion, she's bolting for California because she expected a child's version of Nick Jr "The Princess Life Of Parties And Penthouses" and is getting the National Geographic version of "Duchess'ing Is A Real And Often Boring Job Spotlighting Regular People Doing Necessary Things (And Sometimes Listening To Your Father-In-Laws Bespoke Harpist)".

She has no game, not really. This was a dream job that, as many of you had noted, required very, very, very little effort to not screw up. She couldn't even do that. She wants friendly faces and friendly PR - she doesn't care about what this does to Harry - he's got zero consideration in this. She just wants to get away. I'm actually quite sorry for the whole lot of them, but most especially for her father.<<<

Once upon a time, long, long ago (circa Summer 2016) Meg may have bewitched Harry with the part of her anatomy which his father recently commented has concussed his younger son so badly, he can't think straight. Not that Haz was ever aces at thinking straight. Personally I think that part of their relationship was pretty much over long before the engagement. A man who is sleeping in separate quarters than his wife of 5 months and who has to ask within earshot of other people if his wife is *really* pregnant--Haz may have barely scraped two O-levels but I think he can count backwards from nine--is not a man who is still in that blissful haze of C-oncussion.

Meg has an ability to charm, flatter and make a man think she's the cat's meow for a very short period of time, but that is about the extent of her acting ability. She does seem to have a real gift for clawing her way to beneficial connections. Zeroing in on cameras like a heat-seeking missile. That's about the extent of her gifts. She's proven she's too erratic, impatient and petulant to qualify as an evil genius, but I'm wondering if we have not yet seen the full flower of her narcissism. Because up until recently, Meg has pretty well steam-rolled her way to what she wanted, and people confronted by her complete IDGAF attitude toward anyone else's 'rules' or feelings has pretty well laid down and let her get away with it. A complete disregard for social conventions such as Meg displays takes people so aback, they don't know how to react to her and by the time they have reacted, she's already done what she wanted to do.

There have been rumblings of Narco Rage and screaming/flinging crockery at staff . . or the Queen or anybody thwarting 'what Meghan wants'. I'd call that violent, but so far, she hasn't harmed anyone physically (that we know of . . did Melissa Toubati have to go to the ER for stitches or treatment of burns?) Thomas's Little Girl grew up to be a manipulative Lolita who can mostly get what she wants with that act . . but she's aging out of that now. Really, anybody over 30 trying that game is pathetic. If Meg's California dreams don't work out to spec, or she gets shafted (in her view) in a settlement from the RF, or any other obstacles occur to threaten her self-image, could her rage become physical and harm someone? I am waiting to see if that stage of her Narcissism develops. She may be pushed to that point pretty soon.
Ozmanda said…
Swampwoman - I think MM should have used Crown Princess Mary of Denmark as a role model. When she married Frederick she had to move to a foreign country where the language is not her native tongue - she launched into years of intensive language lessons, etiquette and the long history of her new country. She did it with grace and launched herself into her role as a representative of Denmark. As such the population by and large adore her.

If I was Sparkles (even with her ambition) I would have been smarter and devoted myself to the service of the UK for a year or two, not court controversy, pump out some kids and then gradually do the media profile thing. The very fact she was like a sledgehammer in a room of glass did her no favors whatsoever.

Here is what I think is going to happen - they will both go to California, but Harry will spend most of the time either travelling or going back to the UK for "official business". No matter what they say, Haz is a blood royal - the security detail alone for this relocation will be tremendously expensive for the crown and untenable.

I find myself less sympathetic to Haz - yes it is clear he is damaged and has some addiction issues, but he is also a grown up and needs to stop expecting everyone to clean up after his mess. His history indicates he has always courted the attention of "celebrities" and I think that played a part in all this.
Glow W said…
@mimi I thought it was cringeworthy and overbearing as hell on Letizia’a part. She is also dressing Lenor too old. But, you know, everyone has a bad day and in-laws don’t always get along. Letizia dragged her daughter in to her beef with her MIL and that is the part I really hate.
Glow W said…
(Or was it Sophia? The girls look a lot alike)
SwampWoman said…
gabes_human said...
Lol Swamp Woman: Seamed stockings and a garter belt... . I have friends in the legal field who must wear stockings in the courtroom. You don’t know torture until you have donned pantyhose in New Orleans in August. Some of us took a page from our grandmother’s book and chose thigh high stockings. With or without the garter belt. This eliminates the stuffed sausage feeling while conforming to the rules.


Heh, that is why I suggested it. (I'm in Florida, so I know heat and humidity!) And, yes, I've had to wear hosiery/pantyhose in Florida in July and August. I'm sorry, I do not care how hot and uncomfortable anybody might find "tights" in the UK in the summer, it is nothing like what we have to endure!
alice france said…
Oh, Madge, I just read your comment and you say, "We may be a small country and we don't have much influence in the world lately" I can't let you say that. I am French and here is my opinion: Despite the current gloom, it must be admitted that there is no comparison between what Britain represented in the world at the end of the war and what it has become today, but it remains a world centre in terms of medicine, law, science and universities. London is New York's equal for literature, music, theatre and painting.................. It is a more open and liberal society than most countries in Europe and America. Who today could question the progress of social democracy in the United Kingdom or its powerful influence in the world? Despite the current crisis and the fact that the situation remains worrying, the United Kingdom remains a major power, with considerable international economic, political, cultural, military and scientific influence. It still shines and I hope for a long time.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Tatty, I don't know where you get the information from that many citizens dislike Queen Maxima. I am Dutch and as far as I know she is almost universally liked and approved of by the Dutch citizens. She is a smart and well-educated lady with a lot of charisma, great dress sense and a charming accent when she speaks Dutch, so what's not to like?
Blackbird said…
Meghan has achieved her goal in isolating Harry from everyone close to him. She has him where she wants him, in that he has no choice but to go where she says because he'll be thinking without her he has absolutely nobody. This is how Narcs operate.
lizzie said…
@Swampwoman, @Marie, and others:
I don't think MM should have posted about the USO tour from 2014 either. But not for reasons some are stating. While there certainly are important historical differences between the US's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, those differences are not so clear-cut in practice. For example, there IS a wreath laid at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington National Cemetery on Veterans Day just as there is in May for Memorial Day. So we do recognize war dead in November, not just in May. But in November we honor all who have served including those who did not return from the battlefield. "Memorial" Day obviously is to honor the fallen. But in practice in many communities, those currently serving are also honored.

Mainly MM made a mistake IMO by not being sensitive to the custom of Remembrance Day in her supposedly adopted country and by drawing attention to the US, to herself and to what she did 5 years ago (hey, it was almost like she was in the military too! ;)
Glow W said…
Paisley, of course you would know better, but I read that she is ugly to her staff and people in service positions considered below her status.
SwampWoman said…
Lizzie said Swampwoman, @Marie, and others:
I don't think MM should have posted about the USO tour from 2014 either. But not for reasons some are stating. While there certainly are important historical differences between the US's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, those differences are not so clear-cut in practice. For example, there IS a wreath laid at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington National Cemetery on Veterans Day just as there is in May for Memorial Day. So we do recognize war dead in November, not just in May. But in November we honor all who have served including those who did not return from the battlefield. "Memorial" Day obviously is to honor the fallen. But in practice in many communities, those currently serving are also honored.

Mainly MM made a mistake IMO by not being sensitive to the custom of Remembrance Day in her supposedly adopted country and by drawing attention to the US, to herself and to what she did 5 years ago (hey, it was almost like she was in the military too! ;)


I certainly will not argue any of your points. If people want to celebrate veterans, no matter the day, I'm all for it (grin). I agree that it is reprehensible that she dishonored the veterans of her adopted country by showing her 'working' another holiday entirely in the U.S. ostensibly honoring veterans.
gabes_human said…
Hello Nutty And Co.,
My understanding of H&M being ejected from Chas birthday party if this: Ha was giving a little speech and while he was on the podium speaking a bee was buzzing around his face. A real bee not the proverbial one in ones bonnet. Whether it stung him or not is unknown. However, while H was pontificating and swatting the aforementioned bee, Meg was sitting in the front row making a spectacle of herself by laughing at him and sticking her tongue out at him. This didn’t go over well with Camilla who promptly reported her abysmal behaviour to Chas. lol, This was the first I had heard about needing to leave in time for a honeymoon trip. The look on her, M’s, face as they left spoke volumes. That woman was PISSED OFF judging from the pics of her in the car as she departed. Jaw-jutting, evil eyed glare pissed off. How dare -they -not- appreciate -her-little -girl-protruding-tongue- and-giggling-act. “I’m a newlywed and H loves what I do with my tongue” act. All she needs is a short pleated skirt, pigtails and a lollipop. No wonder Andrew is reported to have enjoyed he favours first. She acts the eight year old girl so well that it’s bound to appeal to men of a certain persuasion. Anyhoo, they were “asked” to leave the party because M can’t keep her tongue in her mouth.
gabes_human said…
Swamp W, yes I realised that I was preaching to the choir when I said that. The whole Gulf Coast should be considered bare leg territory. Nylon and humidity should not have to co-exist. Cotton, linen or silk only. Cashmere when (if) it turns cold.
Mimi said…
things she does that make me crazy........sticking out her tongue, making goo-goo eyes, her smirk, her over enthusiastic hugging of people who don’t want to be hugged, her clasping her hands and giggling, her claws hanging onto Harry, her hand on his back, her constantly touching her wig, her ever changing fake boobs and butt, her ever changing skin tone, her refusal to put stockings on her ugly, skinny legs, her insistence on wearing “Deal or No Deal” type apparel, her rude interrupting of people who are speaking or ignoring people who are speaking to her, her ungraceful clomping walk, her barging ahead of Harry, the speeches that make no sense, her constant copying and plagiarizing, her lack of decorum,....
Glow W said…
Video of Harry getting stung by bee: https://youtu.be/waQWcGRox4U
CatEyes said…
@PaisleyGirl

I read Queen M. is one of the few royals in the world that has openly supported gay people. Also one of her pet causes is immigrants which is particularly kind considering the Netherlands is such a small country but she has a welcoming attitude. I have noticed that her Majesty the Queen has hosted Queen Maxima and her husband a couple of times recently at BR and ER seems to always have a beaming smile when doing so,
Glow W said…
The Royal Family video channel describes it a ‘Hilarious moment Prince Harry is stung by bee...

https://youtu.be/KN8aZOeyD1s
CatEyes said…
Regarding wearing stockings in California: I (and other women in my office) wore stockings every day, all day in LA area. I would have felt naked if I hadn't. I'm in Texas (NE Texas) now and although retired, I always wear hose when attending Church weekly even in the heat. So Meghan not doing so is just an FU to the Queen's preference in my opinion.
Jdubya said…
I'm just sitting here, looking out the window at the snow falling, and imagining Doria and the prospect of Megs/Harry/Archie arriving. Will they stay at her place? Ha, I doubt that. I would think Doria is cringing. If they do stay at one of O's places, how long will the welcome mat be out? Megs starts making demands, staff/food/transportation etc, and O's paying for it? Megs will want to hang with O. Can you imagine the conversations? I'd love to be a fly on the wall for O & Gayle's conversations about Megs/Harry. Maybe O will baby sit Archie so the happy couple can have a date night. Gawd, i'm almost choking her.

She'll end up calling up everyone (asking O for their #s) to try to get hook ups for PR. Talk shows (Ellen dahling, i'm here & available). Maybe O will give them a set of Oprahs favorite things for xmas this year.

they will burn out any welcome they get very quickly. Asking for too many favors.
Glow W said…
@jdubya don’t forget all the luxury products she would have at Oprah’s. 😂😂
Jdubya said…
And as far as Harry adapting to LA lifestyle? I am born and raised in Los Angeles area (Lynwood, right next to Compton) and escaped to No. CA (north of San Francisco)in 1980. Then i Fled CA in 1992. Still have lots of family/friends there, especially in So Cal.

It is a horrid mess there. Crime & Homeless. Rotating power outages. The Fires. The noise, the traffic, the crazies. They'll go for the Hollywood lifestyle which is just bunch of fake people who think they are better than everyone else. I don't know anyone who has any true respect for those folks. They'll be the new novelty at first. Some of those folks will be curious and wonder if they can get their own PR by hanging with them. But the novelty will wear off. Harry will end up being miserable. He has nothing in common with any of those people and he can't do anything for them. They'll smile to his face and then call the tabloids to drop gossip on them without hesitation. Then they'll laugh about them.

Should be an interesting sideshow.
Jdubya said…
ou know it's Favorite Things time when the O team starts taste-testing—among many other treats—chocolate babka, tomato pie, gravlax, peanut butter cups, salami, caramels, and truffle mustard. Did I mention that was all in one sitting? I'm pleased to report we survived to touch, try on, sniff, fall in love with, and narrow down a vast array of goodies until we were left with what I believe are the perfect presents of 2019. Ahead, you'll find 79 gifts, plus an online exclusive, I think are just great—from a makeup kit by Lady Gaga to the perfect pancake maker to the softest hoodie you'll ever wear.

The holidays, of course, aren't all about what's wrapped in a bow, but also, the gift of time. Personally, I delight in Christmas Day, when we do a brunch buffet of everything from fresh blueberry muffins to shakshuka, which is sort of like huevos rancheros with a Tunisian passport. Our gathering is mellow and fun and exactly how I want to wind down the year. This holiday season, I wish you excellent health, genuine happiness, and joyful days.

Oprah

gabes_human said…
When I was an elementary school child of the early ‘60’s, we read and learned the poem ‘In Flanders Field’. Sadly, I haven’t heard it recited over a school PA system in years. My kids were that age in the ‘80’s and they wouldn’t have heard of it except through family genealogy research and the fact that my husband enlisted in the USMC in ‘61 and retired in ‘85. He and his troops used photos of Hanoi Jane as dart targets. Such has been the dumbing down of US educational system. Our children and grandchildren have no concept or appreciation of the gift their forbearers have given them. Meg came from a shallow Hollywood background where history was only important so far as what brand of lingerie Jane Russell and Marilyn Monroe favoured. It’s a good thing M won’t be around long enough to be required to take the written test to become a British citizen because, unless she too has Harry’s ‘tutors’, she would not pass it.
Some people are saying that Meg will not be returning to England. Ever. That IF Harry does accompany her to Cali, it will only be for a short time. Thanksgiving family photos have already been p’shopped that show him at Doria’s table to be released in the press at the appropriate time. This is really MeGain’s exit from the RF. Harry is poised to return to the bosom of his family although the extent of rehab he needs is unclear. I feel like they have both indulged in some major drugs but having been on the receiving end of drug-use rumours I can attest to ones skinniness as not being evidence of drug use. Stress causes many of us to not sleep or eat and there’s no denying that he’s been under a lot of stress. I’m in a love/hate mentality concerning Harry. The next few weeks will hopefully explain a lot which we will have to read between the lines to ascertain.
CatEyes said…
Luxury products? Hardly the reason. Harry can afford all the luxury products back in the UK.

Meghan is going to the US because despite what she spends on PR she is not the darling of the British public and hopes it will be different in America. Look at the s[lash she made at the NYC Baby Shower. She was out front and center just beaming.ear-to-ear. She wants an Oscar moment. Maybe a cameo movie role, temporary acting gig and of course, all the requisite interviews (Oprah. Ellen. Vanity Fair, the news channels, The times, etc...)

Also, I believe she will definitely go House hunting. I just think a visit to Doria is a pretext to more important things to her. Meetings with her agent and possibly a secret trip to a very good attorney in case she needs to begin a discussion of a future divorce. If I was her, I would not trust having any conversation on the phone to discuss any marital discord or potential divorce. It would be too easy for the BRF to have surreptitious phone access to her conversations for say, 'intel' reasons.
SwampWoman said…
Jdubya says: It is a horrid mess there. Crime & Homeless. Rotating power outages. The Fires. The noise, the traffic, the crazies. They'll go for the Hollywood lifestyle which is just bunch of fake people who think they are better than everyone else. I don't know anyone who has any true respect for those folks. They'll be the new novelty at first. Some of those folks will be curious and wonder if they can get their own PR by hanging with them. But the novelty will wear off. Harry will end up being miserable. He has nothing in common with any of those people and he can't do anything for them. They'll smile to his face and then call the tabloids to drop gossip on them without hesitation. Then they'll laugh about them.


I hear the same. The last of my friends there are getting their houses ready for sale and plan to be out of state by summer. The only reason they stayed this long has to do with being native born Californios with elderly parents that will not leave. They are going anyway.
KCM1212 said…
If Megs couldn't leave political causes alone in the UK, she will definitely indulge while in the States. I predict a constant cringe-worthy stream of sound bites and BS. I'm afraid the embarrassment to the RF is not at an end.
Thanks Nutty, and all for another stellar discussion.
Louise said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XfvJeiUed8

If you want a laugh, watch Smirkle at the 2014 USO tour. Everybody on stage seems to be scarfing her.
It's now hitting the press that the Harkles will not be spending Christmas at Sandringham! Did they decide this or was the decision made for them, ie. they have not been invited. Is this the beginning of the end? I hope so.
Mimi said…
All these “reports” that she is wanting to spend time with “family”. What family? Doria?
CatEyes said…
I know there has been a lot of talk about Megs interest in politics (even political aspirations) but she will have to be careful, very careful due to the US laws affecting her and Harry's Foundation (the one registered here). It is expressly forbidden for a private foundation to promote/denounce a particular political candidate or receive money from one.
Madge said…
@alice France at November 12, 2019 at 2:00 PM.

Thank you for those kind words, much appreciated. Many of us in the UK are feeling rather weary and (politically) battle worn. It does make some of us wonder about our place in todays world and whether we have anything left to offer.
Britannia said…
I knew, categorically, that they would not be doing Christmas at Sandringham.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10333855/harry-meghan-decline-queen-sandringham-invitation/

They are treading a very dangerous path.
Button said…
I had a squint at the article and I think the Harkles PR has put a spin on it. I don't believe they were invited. If one goes by the adage " the needs of many outweight the needs of the few " I would reckon that the entire family, sans The Harkles, have made their preferences known. As many nutties have posted, ' what family ' does Smegs have left that she has not tossed aside. I also think that their lack of a wee baby called Archie may have something to do with it. It will be interesting to see how they present baby Archie when they arrive in California. I really do hope this is the beginning of the end of The Gruesome Twosome.
brown-eyed said…
I believe part of Meghan’s apparent indifference to Remembrance Day is that she is probably ignorant of the huge loses of WWI, particularly in England. She’s part of the Millennial generation in the US who are, in my opinion, the most historically ignorant generation I’ve ever encountered. If it isn’t on social media . . . . She was b in 1981, according to the official CA Birth Index, which available online. 1981 was the year of the first Millennials. It truly sickens me to see the me-me-me people, of whom she is the “line-leader.” [And I do know artificial groupings (such as Generation X and Millennials) are artificial constructs, but they are good shorthand.]

Thanks you to Nutty and all of the lively posters. I’m fairly new and find this to be a serios blog with really interesting discussions. Cheers!
Ozmanda said…
@Louise - thanks for that! exactly what I needed to cheer me up from all the bushfire news happening at the moment! That was so awkward, she was trying to get them to come closer to her but refused to move from her place right in the centre. Noone was having it:)

I work with military/law enforcement colleagues and they don't mess around with politeness, if they don't like you they will be pretty upfront :)
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Button said…
@Trudy
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It all sounds like desperation now, but this part is laughable: " They might even take Archie on safari in Botswana, where Harry recently visited.".
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It is beginning to seem like they have nowhere to go at all. Deservedly so irksome pair.
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Louise said…
Brown eyed: How could Smirkle be unaware of Britain's losses during WW1. Isn't she supposed to be "whip smart"?
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Jdubya said…
Or perhaps doria is saying no to some of the plans

Or Oprah and others they were counting on said no

Or maybe more funding cut off
Button said…
Hi Trudy!
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Indeed..wee baby Archie gallivanting across the Okavango delta in search of pride sightings. Maybe Smegs will tumble out of the land rover and they will leave her behind in Savuti. In all seriousness I am undecided whether to be really concerned for baby Archie as I think he is in a safe loving environment, which is not to be confused with The Harkles. To me all these contradictions indicate that they truly have nowhere to go, or as has been suggested perhaps the separation has begun. They have never been sighted at Toad Hall so that seems to wishful thinking or complete bollocks on whomever wrote that rubbish for The Sun. When I was small my Mum would take my brother and I to the shops where we would give the Oxfam lady a coin and receive a poppy which we would wear to honour Remembrance Day. Smegs has no concept of sacrifice, no compassion, no empathy, no understanding of what Remembrance is about. I have never personally met anyone with NPD so I am going by what other nutties have shared regarding her. I apologise Nutty if I have strayed off topic.
SwampWoman said…
I believe part of Meghan’s apparent indifference to Remembrance Day is that she is probably ignorant of the huge loses of WWI, particularly in England. She’s part of the Millennial generation in the US who are, in my opinion, the most historically ignorant generation I’ve ever encountered. If it isn’t on social media . . . . She was b in 1981, according to the official CA Birth Index, which available online. 1981 was the year of the first Millennials. It truly sickens me to see the me-me-me people, of whom she is the “line-leader.” [And I do know artificial groupings (such as Generation X and Millennials) are artificial constructs, but they are good shorthand.]

Thanks you to Nutty and all of the lively posters. I’m fairly new and find this to be a serios blog with really interesting discussions. Cheers!


I agree about the lack of history and millennials, but it is more than that. There is a lack of grounding in the founding documents of our country and the history that makes us Americans in our educational institutions. This can't be an accident. If MM doesn't know the history of her own nation, she probably doesn't know anything about the recent history of England.

Daughter says that her best history class at school was JROTC. But her best history classes were walking the historical sites that we traveled to with the kids in tow.
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Louise said…
This story of Smirkle being anywhere in the world but Sandringham at Christmas sounds like Smirkle is threatening the Queen via the media.."Give me what I want or I won't be at Sandringham for Christmas"
CatEyes said…
Being an American I don't know the fine points of the British press...is it possible the UK media is putting out all of these stories to make them look pathetic? Or aimless? Or erratic that they can't even plan 7 weeks at a time?
CatEyes said…
Small typo...meant to write 6 weeks.

@Louise If only Smirkle was in a position to threaten the Queen with her absence. I'm of the opinion that the BRF will think Christmas has come early if they hear Megs will be going for Thanksgiving and staying to Christmas.
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Button said…
@Louise,
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I don't think that Smegs is threatening HM. Obviously I have no clue as to what HM is thinking but considering the last few days of Smegs behavior and her placement at the Remembrance Day I would reckon that The Queen or someone representing The Queen has had a stern word or two. Perhaps Lord Geidt is hovering in the background. Unless Smegs has some very very damming knowledge that would put The Royal Family in jeopardy and cause complete chaos I think The Royal Family is saying " Bye Bye, have fun. Don't send a card ".
Louise said…
Cat Eyes: I don't think that these stories originate with the press. My opinion is that they originate with Smirkle, along the lines of her bogus invitation to celebrate her birthday with the Queen in Balmoral, along with details of a special cake that Her Majesty had ordered.

Just more nonsense in search of a reaction.
Louise said…
Button: The placement was the same as in 2018.
Button said…
@Louise,
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Yes I stand corrected. Perhaps it is wishful thinking on my part but The Harkles did seem to have their noses out of joint. Perhaps it was the way that William just soldiered on without a backward glance, or the look that The Duchess of Cornwall gave to The Duchess of Cambridge, or perhaps when The Duchess of Cambridge leaned down to support HM during the event. I really do think The Harkles have been cast aside and are now floundering. Louise, you are probably correct re: these contradictory ' news flashes ' originate with Smirkle. :-)
SwampWoman said…
Louise says: This story of Smirkle being anywhere in the world but Sandringham at Christmas sounds like Smirkle is threatening the Queen via the media.."Give me what I want or I won't be at Sandringham for Christmas"

I have to confess that there are those in my family that, if they said that they wouldn't make it for Christmas, I'd dance around the room in joy as soon as I could so that it wouldn't be too obvious. I hope the Queen doesn't hurt herself dancing too vigorously.
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SwampWoman said…
Trudy said:
Despite the above info, this current story feels like there is something behind it – what that is we don’t know yet! If it came from Smirkle's camp maybe the purpose is to hide / cover-up something.


You are right, probably a magician's sleight of hand thing. While they're (PR) or she's (MM) directing us to look HERE, she's over there doing something she shouldn't.
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Rainy Day said…
I think they’ll stay in the U.S. until January - MM will be hoping for a spot as a presenter or stalking everyone on the red carpet at one of the awards shows.
Button said…
@Trudy and @SwampWoman,
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I do hope HM has a wee dram and does not hurt herself whilst dancing a jig. As for the cock and bull story of The Harkles and Archie in the pub..that was obscene it was so stupid and ridiculous. Truly do they think we are so thick? Perhaps the media has gotten hold of something regarding baby Archie and now it is all hands to cover up what deceit they have perpetrated? I cannot imagine Doria being all ' welcoming and jolly and let's have a drinkie " knowing the press might be camped outside her flat. Perhaps the rats are deserting the ship. One can only hope.
SwampWoman said…
My bedtime has come creeping up again while I'm sitting here sipping on caffeinated coffee #8. The temperature has dropped to 72 inside the house and I'm FREEZING (hence the hot coffee). Seriously, the outside temps may be in the 30s by morning. Time for me to lock up and feed the auxiliary backup livestock guard dog, the main livestock guard dog, and the cats. Good night, and leave lots of juicy comments for me to read in the morning!
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SwampWoman said…
Oh, my. Well, it looks like the Harkles stepped in a big ol' pile of dog mess for sure. I can hardly wait for morning. Thanks for checking the latest news (yawn) so I don't have to!

Dogs are fed (small auxiliary livestock dog was jumping up and down in his eagerness for his food and to get into his kennel with his nice warm bed). Cats are fed, including feral cat. Possum will be along later to get his cat food, too. I checked the duck with her two late season ducklings to make sure that they were warm enough. Adoptive Momma Duck was a sad case; she'd been trying to hatch out a tennis ball for MONTHS. Ducklings had been hatched out by another duck, the equivalent of a teenage mother, who'd left them to go partying with her sister ducks. I took duck off her "egg" tennis ball (she bit me and flogged me with her wings) and put her in a pen with the two hatchlings which she immediately started calling. She is keeping them nice and warm. Momma chicken that hatched out 8 tiny chicks a week ago is in her temporary pen with a roof and inside a bucket nest with her brood, also nice and warm. Main livestock guard dog is eating his dinner, then he'll go to his bed on the porch and sleep with the feral cat, a crippled rooster, and two old drakes (male ducks).
Fifi LaRue said…
@Mimi: I do think Markle can drag PH places he doesn't want to go because PH doesn't seem to have a solid core. That core would have a set of values, be able to think for himself, and conduct himself accordingly in a proper manner. Harry's had too many problems with drinking and drugs over the years. People who do that on a regular basis, and in such blaring, glaring manner have nothing at the core. Who raised Harry? Charles? Charles was left to boarding schools, and made fun of by Prince Phillip. PH was/is an easy mark for Markle. She's stronger than Harry, and can exert her will on him. She's giving him what he missed as a child -- guidance. Unfortunately, the guidance Markle gives Harry is in reality absolute control, and for Markle's self-aggrandizement. PH is just a tool for her to get what she wants.
CatEyes said…
Regarding some who believe that Meghan is responsible for the ever-changing stories as to what the Harkles will be doing for the upcoming holiday period,,,I will quote 'Tatty's' favorite person, Skippy; "Expect anything and everything" LOL

Personally, I think Meghan gets the enjoyment of seeing articles about her in print. The more ink that is written about her and the changing plans the better as it gets people to notice, to talk, etc... It is like a synergistic effect of multiple options discussed multiples the narrative.
Fifi LaRue said…
SwampWoman: Love your post!!!
abbyh said…

And the tsunami about them having baby number 2 has begun in earnest. DM has an article about how H was asking about life with 2 kids.

(snark) Gosh, why isn't he having a conversation like that with his brother who not only has 2 but 3 and life in the royal fishbowl with kids? Surely William has that down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7676061/Prince-Harry-quizzed-like-two-children-Remembrance-event.html
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brown-eyed said…
@Louise
Agree her lack of history shows she’s not whip smart.😁

@Swamp-woman
Agree with your assessment on lack of founding doc awareness/knowledge.

As others have said, MM is crafty and cunning, but not necessarily smart. She certainly lives strictly for the moment.
HappyDays said…
Hikari: Meg is a survivor. She is like an apocalyptic cockroach. Harry is not made of such hard stuff and he's not going to survive her long-term. One observer's opinion.

You and I share the same concerns about Harry. I too worry that he’ll suffer a lethal overdose, and yes “an apocalyptic cockroach” is an apt description of Meghan.

I think there’s a strong possibility that both Harry and Meghan will fall into addiction together in California, away from watchful eyes of the RF.

Harry has already had addiction issues, and narcissists also commonly become addicts.

Near the start of 2016 or 2017, Meghan published her new year’s resolutions on The Tig. Two in particular struck me. One was that Meghan wrote that she wanted to reduce her swearing. My guess is that she knew she would soon succeed in steamrolling her way into the RF and that she’d have to avoid being foul-mouthed at public royal engagements.

The other, which especially hit me, is her writing that she needed to cut back on her drinking. For her to make that statement tells me she was experiencing some sort of negative effect from her alcohol intake. After all, people who are light drinkers do not name the lifestyle blog they hope to build into a worldwide personal brand after their favorite wine.

Several blind items have also said or strongly suggested that Meghan has quite an affinity for cocaine.

This mix could lead one or both of them head-first into full-blown addiction, especially in a state where pot is already legal and people who would be eager to be their dealer for any sort of illegal substances abound.

Sadly, if Harry did experience a lethal overdose, Meghan would be happy to use it to her advantage by playing the heartbroken grieving widow with a small child and perhaps another on the way.

She could become a professional royal WOC (widow of color) and therefore become untouchable by any criticism, no matter her behavior, as she reaps millions from her title via the Sussex Royal foundation as she gallantly carries on without Harry, who, if she was being truthful, she would likely not miss one bit. Narcissists are not capable of love.

A Blind Gossip piece..regarding Markle and Camilla.

https://blindgossip.com/im-sick/
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gabes_human said…
I’ve long thought that Meg would rather be a widow than a wife. She would have the protection of the RF for the rest of her life-so long as she didn’t remarry. I don’t think she had a clear idea of Harry’s financial situation before they married. She didn’t know that the bulk of his money was tied up in trusts that extend into perpetuity. Even in her widowhood she could not break the trusts but would only have the interest they accrued. It’s been said that she did not sign a prenup but surely TPTB added a clause into both his and Will’s trusts that make allowances for a widow and any issue of the marriage. Some have entertained the idea that H&M’s marriage is not legal-something about H holding the marriage register up in front of him rather than signing as it lay flat on the table. I dunno about that! Of course, should Harry suffer a fatal overdose Meg would have to prove that she didn’t administer it. Hopefully all he’s doing is smoking some weed. You would think that most outgrow it after their college years but I seem naive in that regard. It seems to be as popular among we ageing boomers as it was in our younger years. I didn’t find the allure then and don’t now but if one simply must catch a buzz, that is the least harmful way and I am in the minority. God forbid anything like that happens. I feel guilty just writing of such a possibility. Widowhood would also bring up questions of just who sired the child known as Archie. This is an unlucky subject. I’ll stop before it gets any deeper.
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How can I subscribe to your blog. Do not see a button?
Sandie said…
Hoping that copying this link to a video will work. This is Megsy (obviously not fitting in with the group) during that USO tour:

https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q0w6gaFiqQ1xpehvf.mp4

Megsy is really bad at team work, fitting in with a family.
Jen said…
@Louise and Sandie,

The video of her on stage with the USO is hilarious. Kellie Pickler totally dissed her, and I Love, LOVE how Brian Urlacher (the guy to her right) acts like she doesn't exist. He was one of my fav football players before this; this just makes me love him more. She's kind of on her own and none of them want to even touch her. As you can see, the fake laughing and messing with her hair, nothing has changed....
Weekittylass said…
Poor, dumb Harry, the bitch set him up big time. When they go to LA, yes he will be more isolated and will probably start self-medicating, while she will be in her element, Duchessing it all over the LA plebes. She is using him as her ‘See, I told you so’ to the Hollywood culture who basically ignored her D-listed ass. She was soooooo much more and by God, they will know it NOW!!! Then as Harry becomes more angry and depressed she can play the ultimate victim of husbandly abuse or neglect and divorce him. Then the custody battle royals, where she can stretch her acting chops, win the hearts and minds of the entire planet, and ship old Archificial off to England as HM has ultimate custody. Ripped from her arms, I tell you, RIPPED FROM HER ARMS!!!!!! That will sort out that pesky child problem and make her the ultimate grieving motherhood martyr. Then off she goes to monetize it all, have Horrorwood bow down to her and happily ruin more lives. Finis.
Weekittylass said…
Royale not royals. I think Harry will find out how Horrorwood is as vacuous and false as his wife. This will be the trigger and he will spiral.
CatEyes said…
@Weekittylass

I find your prediction of what's to come very funny, sad and so likely. I don't think HM will have ultimate custody, for several reasons; 1. In practicality, California court's usually favored joint custody. 2. If she can prove abuse the courts will consider that as a factor in awarding custody. When you described it as a possible battle royale, that is underestimating how bad it can get. It would be nuclear! I am just a plebe and I spent years fighting for and trying to retain custody to the tune of $100,000 back in the late '80s. Archie would be a poor pawn in a very wicked game. There are so many high profile attorneys who would love to get on that gravy train.
Louise said…

Jen: From the interaction (or, rather, lack of interaction) with Brian Urlacher, I was thinking that something had gone on behind the scenes, i.e., that she had come on to him, because he is waving those drumsticks for dear life in order to avoid her.

And the way Kellie Pickler shakes Smirkle's claw off her arm? Priceless. You have to really dislike someone to go to that much effort while still trying to hold your tune.
Jen said…
Louise, I know! I wouldn't put it past her to have made a pass at Urlacher, thank GOD he didn't touch that. Like I said, love him even more!! This is a guy who had many concussions during his time with the Bears, and even he's not dumb enough to fall for her crap. What does that say about Harry? Hahahaha.
Nahanni said…
1: Their "child", if it exists, is a ward of the Queen because it's in line for the throne. Judging by what little we already know a good case could be made that they're unfit parents and they'll lose custody.

2: She can sue for divorce in California all day long and she won't get diddly squat. She wouldn't be divorcing some actor or rapper but a foolish member of one of the most powerful families on Earth. She has no idea just how frought with peril her position is if she keeps her crap up.

3: I believe the Civil List is announced in April. I don't think they will be on it. In fact I believe the BRF has initiated the legal process to formally disown Harry, Meghan and all of Harry's descendants. They won't be keeping their titles. They won't be getting any more money from the BRF. They will lose their diplomatic passports and protection services. They will be commoners.

As to that trust fund I'd imagine he only gets an annual payment and can't withdraw the lot. If not that money will be gone in a year.

4: If they try to put up a fight I'd imagine there will be some videos/photos of her that would guarantee all her "celebrity" friends will ghost her so fast she won't know what hit her.

5:
Madge said…
Piers Morgan has taken two more broadsides at Markle. These are not being reported in the DM (because of legal concerns perhaps?),but they in other newspapers such as the Metro, Sun and Express.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/12/piers-morgan-bashes-meghan-markle-playing-victim-card-attention-11081740/

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/13/piers-morgan-blasts-meghan-and-harry-for-not-spending-christmas-with-royal-family-11088498/
DesignDoctor said…
The video shows MM really is an odd duck who does not fit in anywhere. Is she just a hanger-on in this group? Was the USO tour just another PR opportunity to "raise her profile?"
Nutty Flavor said…
Hi all. One of my favorite Lipstick Alley posters, Aunt Jane, just advanced an interesting theorey.

She believes that Harry and Meghan were never invited to either Balmoral in the summer or Sandringham for Christmas - in fact, they were specifically un-invited, because these are private spaces for the Royals and they cannot be trusted to keep what happens there private.

Meg likes to take photos of family-only spaces, of course, and she also seems willing to share family-only gossip in order to get paid/curry favor with journalists/get herself a little bit of extra publicity. (Sharing the tidbit about Prince George's "usual morning destruction" back in 2017.) Perhaps Harry tells Meg, and Meg tells the world, so Harry is not invited either.

To protect their pride, the Sussexes were allowed to say that it was their decision not to attend.

Aunt Jane's theorey is that the Sussexes are considered generally untrustworthy within the family, which is why Meg is never allowed to borrow the Queen's jewelery.
Aus Unknown said…
I missed this blog! I had to stop posting because it was addictive ... it is the best with everyone making solid contributions with respect.

I just need to correct Tatty's erroneous post that surrogacy is 'illegal in the UK'. No, it isn't. The statutory law does not provide for surrogacy in the UK [or Australia]. What it means is that there is no statutory protection for the presumptive parent/s. It also means that the surrogate cannot be paid. There is no structural law pertaining to surrogacy.

However, there is absolutely nothing stopping a couple [or a single person] from contracting a surrogacy arrangement privately under common law.
But, as I said, there is no legislative protection should either party vitiate the terms. Common law claims depend on precedent, which is not as easy to make good as a claim bound by statute.

It's not an ideal state of affairs, which is why it is very risky business.
Jen said…
@Nutty, that's very plausible. I can see the family not only being upset over everything that has happened this year so far, but also be weary of them using the time for intel gathering. I wouldn't trust these two either, if I were the family.
IEschew said…
Thank you all for that video link. I wish someone would share it with the people who believe she is a victim of becoming royal as a diverse American. Would they assert she has been a victim her entire life, and this video is one more example of racism? Please. She puts people off. She emanates ill will. What troubles me is that HRC puts off the same sh*tty vibes. HRC was more legitimate and intelligent than Meghan in her time, though, and the public less inundated with their false brand of feminism; now HRC appears as desperate and deluded as Meghan...and perhaps under someone else’s thumb for having enabled her husband’s behavior. It’s all pretty rich. But please, someone show this video to the people currently endorsing Meghan and/or accepting her money so they can see they will not turn this around for her and only tarnish themselves by association. This con needs to end sooner, not later.
Madge said…
@Nahanni

"" 3: I believe the Civil List is announced in April. I don't think they will be on it. In fact I believe the BRF has initiated the legal process to formally disown Harry, Meghan and all of Harry's descendants. They won't be keeping their titles. They won't be getting any more money from the BRF. They will lose their diplomatic passports and protection services. They will be commoners.""


The Civil List was abolished under the Sovereign Grant Act 2011. Since that time allowances for the Royal Family come through the Sovereigns Grant. This is paid annually to the Queen by the government in order to fund the Monarch's official duties. Harry and Markle don't get any of it. The public pay for their security through their taxes directly to the Royal Protection Squad which is part of the Metropolitan Police.

Harry and Markle's expenses are paid for by the Duchy of Cornwall. Charles holds those purse strings and pays the bills. However the Duchy of Cornwall does not belong to Charles. We the public have owned the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster since 1855.

No member of the Royal Family has a diplomatic passport. In the UK those are granted on a political basis only.

Harry's title cannot be taken away from him because he is a blood Prince of the Realm. If Harry and Markle divorce, she will lose her HRH, but she will be Duchess f Sussex until Harry remarries.

"" As to that trust fund I'd imagine he only gets an annual payment and can't withdraw the lot. If not that money will be gone in a year.""

Harry doesn't have a trust fund. What he has is the money left him by his mother and great-grandmother. He withdraws the interest on that on a yearly basis. If he wanted the capital he could apply for it from the Royal Family comptroller. This is all in the publicly available wills of Diana and the Queen Mother.
KCM1212 said…
Very funny piece on the Lady Greyhound Tumblr (https://ladygreyhound93.tumblr.com)....Sussexroyal posted a blurb about Shout....where William and Kate did an event yesterday taking credit for having founded with W&K, and implied credit for event W&k did. Then listed the Sussexes first and left the "the" off the Cambridges title (wasn't there a discussion about that a week or so ago?). Someone grabbed a screenshot before it was taken down.
KCM1212 said…
And I wonder if Doria put the kibosh on the visit. For someone as close as Doria supposedly is, she doesn't spend much time in the UK. If course MM has burned her as well. She couldn't help herself.
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Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce.  And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before?  which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know.  I'm not a lawyer.  One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away".  That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice.  But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance.  Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei

A Quiet Interlude

 Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event?   Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th?  Oscar's - March 10th?   In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US.  The IRS just never goes away.  Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on).  There's always another one.  Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California.   That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales.   Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere.  But.  The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.  

Christmas is Coming

 The recent post which does mention that the information is speculative and the response got me thinking. It was the one about having them be present at Christmas but must produce the kids. Interesting thought, isn't it? Would they show?  What would we see?  Would there now be photos from the rota?   We often hear of just some rando meeting of rando strangers.  It's odd, isn't it that random strangers just happen to recognize her/them and they have a whole conversation.  Most recently it was from some stranger who raved in some video (link not supplied in the article) that they met and talked and listened to HW talk about her daughter.  There was the requisite comment about HW of how she is/was so kind).  If people are kind, does the world need strangers to tell us (are we that kind of stupid?) or can we come to that conclusion by seeing their kindness in action?  Service. They seem to always be talking about their kids, parenthood and yet, they never seem to have the kids