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Open Post: Meghan returns to Britain

Duchess Meghan has returned to the UK, and has been spotted outside a hotel ahead of her appearance at the Endeavor Fund Awards this evening.

Let's discuss as she and Harry make their appearance before a crowd of injured service men and women who have taken on extreme sporting challenges.

How will they greet the runaway Captain General of the Royal Marines and his spouse?


Look your best, Meg

If I were Meghan, I'd make sure my look was on point tonight. It's one of her highest-profile ways to advertise for future work in Hollywood or on the talk show circuit.

Meg's outside-the-hotel style - a wrap coat and open back shoes with no stockings, despite the raw British weather - is not encouraging.

Meg also went rather heavy on the facial bronzer; her hands and bare feet don't match her face.

Comments

YankeeDoodle said…
Knowing how close HAMS is with the Clintons (remember Hills visiting Archie Bunker?) I wonder if H is using Bill’s way of getting rid of anxieties? Unbelievable, and treating women like dead meat. Truly, I wonder if the Clintons told Harry to try their way, and he can “get up” in the morning, and get over flashing cameras?
xxxxx said…
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/03/06/the-countdown-to-the-end-of-sussex-royal-the-endeavour-awards-2020/

New at Harry Markle. New for me at least. Cheers Nutties!
SwampWoman said…
I asked SwampMan whether he thought MM was hot. His answer was an emphatic "NO! She is not attractive at all!" Then I asked him about DoC, and he said thoughtfully "While she may not be considered a bombshell by some people, she has a great body, pretty face, nice smile, and a lot of character. I consider her extremely attractive, much more so than the Hollywood bombshell types. She is so much more than a decorative arm hanger."

So there's another straight male opinion.
Hikari said…
@Vince

As always, thank you for offering your masculine perspective here. It can’t have escaped your notice that you are the only man in our society, outnumbered 100 to 1. That’s my rough estimate of the number of commentators we have, if that’s not a bit high. In any case don’t ever leave, and we apologize if our girly chat gets petty or repetitive. Guys as a whole or more action oriented, and committed to solving a problem rather than dissecting it endlessly in talk; That’s why I think blogs like this, and FB chat boards are overwhelmingly female. Hashing over a common problem, and trying to reach a consensus is a female problem-solving technique. By verbalizing things, we work out how we feel about thorny problems, and has there been a thornier problem in pop culture in recent times than Meg? We need to apply a little perspective and realize that she’s not one of the thorniest problems ever...Compared to world hunger, diseases, human trafficking, the opioid crisis and the like, what Meg has done to the Royal family is in the manner of a tawdry sideshow. History will show her to be a flash in the pan, and soon forgotten. She’s milking her 15 minutes for all they’re worth, but she’s an empty nobody who has Kidnapped another empty nobody along for her pointless ride.

I’ve seen some attractive pictures of Meghan, but they were all from 10, 15 years ago. She may have been able to pass for a hot girl in her 20s, but nobody’s fooled anymore. Post Harry, her next husband may be some tycoon in his 80s. That’s the only demographic who would still consider her nubile and hot. Meg’s internal vision of herself is 15 years out of date...She still dresses and preens like she’s 24. Aging is brutal for people whose entire sense of self comes from the shallow and physical. There is no there there in Meghan; It’s all counterfeit posing, and she really thinks that 22-year-olds are looking up to her as a role model, when in fact she’s old enough to be their mom. Catherine is a classic beauty who has embraced being a yummy mummy with class, and she looks better than ever. It took him a decade, but William chose well, and he chose for the long-term. How glad are we that he, not his brother, will have charge of the Firm? It could’ve been David all over again if the birth order was reversed.
I asked my husband, he said Kate is a pretty girl who knows how to dress and behave in public and Meghan is too manly, would need a PhD in Etiquette to be acceptable in public, and learn how to dress. He said her hair would be great on Morticia.
Hikari said…
@PortCity,

HazBean is totally a Beta. It’s why he resents William so much. Chas is a Beta, too. His father: Alpha. Anne: Alpha. I think we can all agree, even those of us who aren’t British and shouldn’t have a dog in the fight, that it is a Royal pity That Anne is not on deck to be Queen. That one could do the job, embodying the best qualities of both of her parents. Betas are just not leaders. But if Anne were Heiress Apparent, her son Peter would be in William’s spot. Peter may be the Queen’s favorite grandson since he was the first (Harry has never contended for the title regardless of what Meg thinks), But to me Peter seems like more than a bit of a douche. He’s had more leeway then any of the other kids to profit from being the queens grandkid, even sans title, But he demanded that his wife Autumn renounce her Catholic
faith Expressly so he could retain his place in the line of succession… How very pointless, since Uncle Charles had two sons. This led to him being mocked as “King Peter” in aristo circles.

#TeamCambridge all the way here.
Portcitygirl said…
Hikari

I defer to you. Well said as always.
NeutralObserver said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
"Or as they say in the South, "She looks like she's been rode hard and put away wet."

;)"

Similar, but also different. France wasn't founded by Puritans, like the US was. They're much more tolerant & affectionate toward 'old whores' than we are. They just think it's not in good taste for someone to keep at it beyond a certain age.

A horse that has been 'put away wet' implies an abusive owner who doesn't properly cool down his animal after using it.

An 'old whore' has agency, like Megs. She chooses to cling to a youthful image she's to old to get away with. She's the one who's calling the shots. She relishes her siren role, she probably will into her 80s, as distasteful as it is to contemplate. LOL.
Anonymous said…
My thoughts:

1. Totally with @Vince re Rach looking rank rhymes with skank and re everything else he said about her.

2. Also Rach: Dress too tight, wrong body shape, creeping up her back spread. Sorry not sorry, I just do not see this as acceptable or attractive.

3. Kate is classic and tasteful but still fun. If Kate had Rach's body type, she might not be as initially "hot", but she'd still be someone who'd be attractive and lovable because of her nature and ability to roll with it.

4. Wills oozes confidence and testosterone, and I am so in. Of course, I would never look at my BFFs hubby, but damn, he's hot. And just enough of a geek at time to make him lovable hot.

5. WA doesn't sell Everclear (a number of states have made it illegal), so I'm having alcohol and cotton shipped in and I'll have to find a Plan B till then. I work with a woman who is an absolute troll and she is coughing up a lung and thinks Coronavirus is less worrisome than the flu. Many others there are not much smarter. I may have to drink the vodka in my adult sippy cup at my desk since it won't work for hand sanitizer. Actually, some vodka's are >60%, so I just have to find the right one for a week.
SwampWoman said…
I still do not understand why Meghan seemingly pursues (and dresses for) the slut role. As an actress, she surely should know that she should be dressing for the role, not how she got there.
SwampWoman said…
@Elle, Everclear is illegal in my state; however, I live just south of Georgia and could get some there if I needed emergency alcohol for hand sanitizing purposes.
KCM1212 said…
Looks like the photos of the (secret) visit to the National Theatre that were embargoed until today walked all over an important speech Camilla gave regarding domestic abuse.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-war-upset-camilla-21648237

So typical. I agree nothing has changed with her or Harry.
CookieShark said…
I hope Camilla gives her a top drawer rinsing if it's true she was told not to release the pictures today.

I have already seen links online where you can buy photos from the Endeavor awards from last night. Literally selling their image.
Teasmade said…
@SwampWoman:
"she should be dressing for the role, not how she got there." ZING!
Vince said…
@PortCityGirl

Yep, Alphas are the way to go. Unless you are Meg. She wanted a beta (she is the Alpha) and got one. Betas are far easier to manipulate.



@Hikari

Thanks! Glad you appreciate my masculine perspective. True, I am maybe the only male here regularly. This is why I'll say things as regards what guys think or who is 'hot' and who is not. Meg is not a particularly attractive woman. Her face can be cute, but that's about as far as it goes. Again, not trying to be judgmental here just keeping it real from a guy's perspective.

It is tough for people who rely on their looks to age. And for sure Meg is running into that wall now. However, it's not like a prized race horse entering in decline here. It's more like a local pull-a-carriage-in-town mare on the downside. Meg is not all that, and never was.

Kate was a great choice by William. She was. Kate may not be what I would call sexy, but she's very pretty and she's very classy. She is a very attractive woman, and much of it has to do with her kind personality. She's a winner.



@Elle

Yes. Meg is like a singer (I'm thinking of the singer Fergie here from Black Eyed Peas) who always tries to grind and be sexy, even when it's not appropriate to the song or performance. She just has a been-around-the-block vibe, and not in a good way. It doesn't work, and it really doesn't work for most 38 year olds.




As I said earlier, I'm not here to bash Meg's looks or just focus on looks. I only want to a) give a realistic view of what straight men think about Meg's appearance and b) provide balance to the absurd media notion of Meg as some super beauty to Kate's plain Jane. That stuff is ludicrous, and I can assure you that almost no male who likes women feels that way about Meg, or Kate.

I have no attraction to Meg. None. And I always felt that way, long before I knew much of her personality. And that's ok, Meg's not living to be the object of my affection. But let's be real here, media. Stop trying to force a narrative that is just not there.
Portcitygirl said…
Like to hear all our SO's opinions. Probably true over all.

@Hikari

I'm flattered we share the same opinion. I value yours.
pi said…
The absolutely dumbest thing the BRF has done so far is to provide a platform for these two losers to push their product. It makes me wonder if there's collusion. Harry is looking better after his visit with the queen- as if she's totally on his side and will do everything within her power to gaslight the plebs. I'm already seeing evidence in the tabloids.
Portcitygirl said…
Sorry for repeats- SO away tonight on business and I tend to hit the spirits more.
Portcitygirl said…
@Vince

I'm a pretty strong personality, but SO is stronger. Makes for a better relationship. Imo.

KCM1212 said…
I believe this "charm offensive" is to sucker the British public into paying for their security.

Markle believes if only she is popular and sexy enough she can have anything she wants.

She is vamping Britain.


Vince said…
@PortCityGirl

I think most women would agree with you on having a SO with a stronger personality makes for a better relationship.



@KCM1212

"vamping". Perfect description of how Meg acts. It's so...icky. Yuck.
CatEyes said…
@SawmpWoman
@Elle

Everclear is legal in Texas although parts of the state are 'dry' meaning no alcohol can be sold whatsoever. Just down the road from me the biggest city in my county is partially 'dry'. I once bought a small bottle of Everclear to see what it was all about...whew, wee, I got drunk just smelling the fumes. It was nasty.

Sixty years ago we had bootleggers here who produced moonshine and I used to overhear my Uncle talking about going to see one (or as you politely said @SawmpWoman, illicit distillery lol.) But the 'Revenue Agents' pretty much put them out of business.
Louise said…
Charlatan Duchess is on fire today. Too many stories to link to.

I suggest that you take a look, particularly the Camilla story and the story about students being turned away from school when Smirkle visited.

Apparently Camilla was giving a speech about abused women today and Buck Palace had asked all the papers in the Royal rota not to publish competing stories today.

Smirkle took her own photographer along to the Royal Theatre visit yesterday and gave (or sold) the photos to a paper that is not part of the rota.

She insisted that the photos be published today and not yesterday when the visit actually occurred, because she did not want her own photos competing with her own appearance at the Endeavor awards.

First, it shows that she doesn't give a hoot about the Royal Theatre and only used the people of the theatre for a photo op of herself. But more important, this was so disrespectful not only to Camilla but also to the abused women on whose behalf Camilla was speaking. Not what I would expect from an avowed "feminist".

So much for my theory that Smirkle wanted back in the family.
pi said…
@Vince

"Kate IS hot. She is. She's tall, long legs, nice shape, great smile and face, classy."

Actually Kate is around 5'7" at most, is long waisted with short legs (fooled you with the heels and the high waisted dresses). She has veneers and partakes of botox, wiglets and extensions. She's had the bags removed from her eyes and her nose reshaped.

In the past she has been said to be uninterested in anyone overall except William and has shown a disinterest in anyone other than her family. At one event about tea she asked "Can you test the smell by smelling it".

Kate is not kind, she is self-absorbed. Will is no different. But they do look good compared to the Sussexes and they are now taking full advantage of it. Will is no different than Harry in his petulance and entitlement but because the tabs have skin in the future king game people are buying the PR which has really revved up since the Sussexes began to tank.
Louise said…
Sorry, I see that someone has already posted about the finger that she figuratively gave to Camilla.
hunter said…
Yeah but Meg will lick your butthole.
Louise said…
Pi: I agree that Kate had her nose reshaped at the tip, but her teeth have always been nice. I don't know where you got the idea that she has veneers.

At 5'7, she is tall for a woman.

As for her not being interested in anyone.. she sure does a fabulous job of appearing to be interested in others when she meets them. Unlike the actress who can't even fake being interested.

As for the rest of your post, it seems that you are just making things up.
Portcitygirl said…
Pi

What the heck are you on about? Eff off about disparaging the future Queen of England.
Mimi said…
excuse me while I get my popcorn and vodka. This is going to be a doozy!!!!!!!!!!
pi said…
@Louise

Kate has veneers. Just check before and after.

She is relatively tall but pretty average in height these days. The 4" heels make her look stratospheric.

Yeah, it's easy to fake interest. If you see earlier years the boredom is so evident. And I've only reported what was reported back in the day before you.

Making things up? How long have you followed them? You can doubt it and me but you're not showing any evidence otherwise except current PR.
pi said…
@Portcitygirl

Kate will be Queen Consort, not Queen. I stated facts.
Vince said…
@Pi

I disagree, on pretty much everything.

Kate is 5' 9", reportedly.

Again, as a straight male, I find Kate infinitely more attractive than Meg. And I find Kate kind and genuine. Maybe she's not so great, in person. But having someone like Meg to compare yourself with helps your standing a great deal.




@Hunter

lol. Yes, she probably would. Yachters gonna yacht.
Portcitygirl said…
@Pi

Queen is Queen. Better get used to it.
pi said…
@Vince

See her standing beside William without heels and tell me she's 5'9".

What do you disagree upon because you need to rebut with evidence. Oh, I forgot to mention that she also gets fillers.

Yes, compared to Megs ANYONE would look kind and genuine. But neither of them is kind. Both are self-absorbed.

Indeed, comparing Kate with Megs definitely elevates Kate. Good for PR but hollow for admiration or inspiration.
Vince said…
@PortCityGirl

Indeed, queen is queen. Even if you are a queen consort, you're still a queen.



I've said before that maybe the best thing to happen to the Cambridges was the emergence of the Harkles. Just by their existence, the Harkles make the Cambridges seem about 5x better than they might seem were the Harkles not around.
pi said…
@Portcitygirl,

No, there is a legal and constitutional difference. Get used to it.
Anonymous said…
@Vince I totally get what you're saying. Rach has that been around a hard block look about her, like she could suck the paint off a Harley (I think that's from a movie?), and just tough, and no amount of veneer of any kind takes that edge off her.

Re the banning of Everclear: States that currently ban the sale of Everclear include California, Florida, Maine, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Iowa, Michigan, New York, Nevada, Ohio, Washington, North Carolina, New Hampshire and Minnesota. Who knew? I sure didn't until I needed a homemade sanitizer. My guess is that it has to do with alcohol poisonings? I know they used to make Everclear punch in college, but I'm not sure that I ever had any.

And I'm not coming here to argue with anyone, but IMO, Kate is and always will be a Queen and the consort part is of little importance to those of use who love her. So whatevs.


Apropos of nothing, I just know Rach comes here to read and comment.
Vince said…
@Pi

What do I disagree with?

- your no-evidence claim of Kate's height
- "Kate is not kind, she is self-absorbed"


Zero direct evidence for either claim. Pretending you have evidence from a second-hand source is like my saying that the world is flat because someone wrote it down somewhere.

I don't know what your zealotry is against Kate, and I don't care. Your opinions will have no effect on my views.

Kate is going to be queen, whether your like it or not. Sorry about that.
Vince said…
@Elle

Perfectly said. Trust me, guys know this and pick up on it. Meg has a very 'desperate' vibe to her. Not attractive at all. And there are far more attractive girls who have been around the block than Meg.

I usually preach to others to avoid fighting with people on the blog. Now I'm going to take my own advice and stop responding to my agitator.
Anonymous said…
And I'm with @Vince and @PortCityGirl

Indeed, queen is queen. Even if you are a queen consort, you're still a queen.

Many people know and love Kate. She has lifelong friends and loves her family. There will always be those who try to diminish that and tarnish her, but that says far more about who they are than who Kate is to all who know her. She has a loveliness and kindness about her that those of us who value those things see immediately. We also recognize the cheap imitations (Rach is but one of those).
Vince said…
@Elle

Hear, hear.
Anonymous said…
Yes, @Vince true, best to leave the agitators alone (and really, why does anyone go to a blog to argue and be nasty? what's the point?), but your defense of Kate is chivalrous and much appreciated.
hardyboys said…
Port City's blind allegiance to the Royal Family and refusing to accept any criticism of them is strange, almost sad. She/He refuses to accept that the BRF colonialized countries, raped them of their wealth and jewels and still do. That is how the British can afford all the benefits they give to the unemployed public such as council housing, income support, NHS and the sterling is so high. It is not from commerce or manufacturing, it is from colonizing the countries they still rule. Port City's comments are funny and completely underwhelming. I always laugh at his/her sad blind blind allegiance. Oh and enjoy your night of drinking. You will regret what you posted tomorrow morning.
pi said…
@Elle,

"Consort" is of importance to us who care about monarchy not celebrity but hey, I get ya.

BTW Just Harry and his son are so far down the line that entertaining them as seriously in line to the throne is kinda laughable at this point. And he doesn't have the humility to get a clue.
Hikari said…
Pi,
Are you KP staff or something? Where do you come by your mean spirited intel on the Cambridges? Next I suppose you’ll tell us that Kate is a lousy mother.

Will and Kate are human, not paragons. We’ve all heard about William’s legendary temper and the charges that both were work shy early on. They’ve both matured and stepped up admirably. They make an effective team together, and I think it’s for real, not just for optics. You can’t fake the comfort level and easy humor both display routinely when they are out together. The looks on the faces of people around them tell the story… It’s always smiles and happy energy with the Cambridges, consistently so. A marked contrast to the looks that the Harkles get.

Have you stood up close to the Duchess of Cambridge to put her height and only 5’7”? Her official stat is 5’10”, same as Diana. She certainly had more than 2 inches on Meghan, when we take into account that both women were wearing equivalent heels.
Vince said…
@Elle

Thanks!

Kate has gotten far too much grief of late, much of it because of Meg. Time to help balance that score.
Anonymous said…
@pi If what you say is true, and what is true in all this crazy saga unfolding is debatable, at least the Cambs know what is expected of them. THEY UNDERSTAND THE DO THEIR FRIGGIN JOB! They don't ignore the crowds around them, they are both smart enough to play the game, and they know how to fu*king dress themselves and comb their hair.

No one on this site has declared them saints. What we HAVE said is that they know how to perform their job. I would say that if I were their superior, I give them both an "wildly exceeds expectations." At royal occasions they don't appear high, they don't appear in dirty clothes, they don't look like they haven't washed their wig in a month of Sundays, they don't unbutton their shirts to reveal their bras, they don't wear shoes with holes in them, and they wear clothes that actually fit, and they don't wear outfits with their boobs spilling over the top at what are supposed to be solemn occasions.

They don't diss the Queen on national media, they don't change their stories repeatedly as public commentary dictates their next move, whatever merching they do is tasteful and under the radar, they don't wear clothes with tags hanging off of them, or clothes that don't fit because they are being returned the next day, and most of all, they obviously love the Queen, and do not seek to undermine her reign by using surrogates to criticize and shade the BRF.
Anonymous said…
Wow, @HardyBoys and Pi, I think you've hit up the wrong blog. Not saying that different opinions aren't welcome, but it must not feel good for you to come here and read the comments of those with whom you so vehemently disagree.


@Hikari You've really been out-Hikaring yourself today and your last comment about Kate warms my cold heart totally.
Anonymous said…
@Vince I find Kate to be a total inspiration, not because she's perfect (even though she's so close) but because of the way she does the work, keeps calm, carries on, responds to nastiness by just behaving calmly, and is loved by so many. IMO, those who can't appreciate that about her are petty and/or bitter.

Sometimes, when I'm having a really stressful day, I just look at tumblr and see Kate smiling and laughing and getting on with it, and I raise the bar for myself a bit. I know that sounds corny or delusional, but it's neither really. It's just that she has stepped into a role that demands so much, and at times she's been treated with such hate and been publicly humiliated (mattress, for example), and she's risen above it. If she can do that on such a grand and public scale, then I am inspired to try to do the same on such a mediocre and minor scale.
Anonymous said…
Wow, YOU must be a South Pole Elf.
pi said…
@Vince

You have shown no evidence of Kate's kindness. We can quibble about her height but we can't quibble about evidence of her short legs, her botox, her fillers, her nose job, her eye job, her veneer job.

My so-called zealotry is not about Kate, it's about lies.

It's amazing that on this free thinking blog an adverse opinion is basically making me a wacko. So, I guess I'm a hater for not buying into the Cambridge PR even though I don't buy into the Sussex PR either.

I guess this blog is about critiquing the Sussexes but not the Cambridges because the latter are so amazingly perfect.
Royalfan said…
Time to find another site @hardyboys. Spouting nonsense and picking fights with intelligent posters is tiresome. Move on.
Vince said…
@Elle

I agree. She seems a real inspiration. I think Will is, also.

Again, these are imperfect people, as we all know. But they TRY to do things right. And that means a lot. Good examples for others.
pi said…
@wizardwench

I don't disagree with you. But the bar is so very low. The Sussexes are a subterranean measure by which to compare the Cambridges. So that's not saying much.
Anonymous said…
@Hikari, hopefully, you know this, but I want to say it anyway:

You are a much-loved and valued long-term Nuttier, and your comments are ones I seek out.

Of course, I just read (before the comment was deleted) that my joking reference to Kate & Will as my BFF was pathetic, and I just need to stop, just stop, so don't go by my opinion lol, but I'm sure other Nuttiers will cheer you as well.
Vince said…
Is it just me, or do the current agitators seem like newer posters?

There are many ways to troll a blog. One way is to be a sugar (prop up Meg).

Another way is to be an anti-sugar for the opponents of who you are a sugar for (tear down Will and Kate).

As we all know, Nutty has not made this a blog where you have to dislike Meg or the Harkles. Similarly, I doubt she'll make it a blog where you must like the Cambridges.

Interesting to observe all this.
Anonymous said…
@Vince, Again, these are imperfect people, as we all know. But they TRY to do things right. And that means a lot. Good examples for others. And that is the very reason they are such inspirations, both of them.
Anonymous said…
No, @Vince, they do seem new and so simpatico, they're like twins.
@KCM1212,

Of course MM waited to release the photos to disrupt Camilla's speech on domestic abuse. She wanted the attention firmly on her, and then Harry. What else would a narc do?

But Camilla's speech also was about domestic mental abuse (which is just as insidious as physical abuse). MM has been accused of using narcissistic mental abuse tactics on Harry, who has admitted to depression and other mental health issues. Add two and two together, and there's a second reason MM wanted Camilla's speech overridden.
Vince said…
@Elle

Yeah. I've said before I know a solid amount about PR and how PR is done on the internet, including the uses of trolls and bots.

Just intriguing here, you know what I mean? ;)

Additionally, trolls often work in tandem (or in even greater, coordinated numbers). That's a typical technique.

Agreed, the Cambridges are an inspiration, and I can't wait until they are king and queen. Britain is in good hands.
pi said…
@Elle

"Wow, @HardyBoys and Pi, I think you've hit up the wrong blog. Not saying that different opinions aren't welcome, but it must not feel good for you to come here and read the comments of those with whom you so vehemently disagree."

Surely you jest. What is this blog about? Just criticising Megs and Harry? Where is that written? Is there a sign that says critique of the Cambridges is verboten? What is this blog about?
Genia said…
It's funny that Meghan is employing the Hollywood trick fo using glossy lipstick to disguise recent trip to the filler injector's chair. If you blow up the photos of lips especially those to the national theater, you can totally see lumpiness in her upper lip around the middle section, between the Cupid's bow. Except whoever injected her had overdone it, thus making her middle upper lip look very odd. Another telltale sign is her smile, as women who overdo lip fillers cannot smile naturally. The lips slide outward when smiling naturally, but with oddly placed fillers in the lips what you get is the the lips get pushed upwards top lip) and downwards (lower lip. Visually the human eyes/ mind senses something unnatural in the smile because instead of spreading everything just projects forward.
pi said…
@Vince

I know about trolls. So I'm wondering too, ya know?

BTW Charles will be king. Camilla will be Princess Consort. After that Kate will be Queen Consort. Neither female will be Queen.
pi said…
@Vince

I have posted in the past, just never posted about the Cambridges. Why does this send you and some others in a tizzy? Anyway, Cheers! Let the debate roll on!
hardyboys said…
@PI....so well said..and I love love love your name 3.14....exactly this blog is dominated by a few multiple posters one in particular who drinks and talks about contemptinis all night long and then posts and posts and if you dare say one thing bad about the BRF or the Cambridges you have had it. Its like there is no freedom of expression. LIke Royalfan just told me to get lost bc I expressed my opinion that Port City Girl does not have neutral opinions. Royal fan and Port City Girl are free to express their opinions, but if Pi doesn't like Kate then let the poster express her opinion. I mean we all have to tolerate Hikari's multiple multiple 20 paragraph posts that are very difficult to get through and generally are meaningless rants
Crumpet said…
@ Hikari, Vince, Elle, love reading your posts! Keep them coming, please.

@JocelynsBellinis, Yes, interesting that even Camilla is stepping up and complaining about the Harkles blatant attempts to always upstage other RF members! The comments in the DM were sympathetic to her which is a change and good to see.
pi said…
@JocelynsBellinis

"Of course MM waited to release the photos to disrupt Camilla's speech on domestic abuse. She wanted the attention firmly on her, and then Harry. What else would a narc do?"

I never thought of that. She couldn't have known about the speech beforehand could she? My thought is she is like a robot- she knows the royal fam is pulling out all stops so she's basically reacting day by day, flooding media to diminish the fam's influence.
@pi,

"Prince Charles’ wife had been planning today’s speech on the 10th anniversary of the Women of the World Festival in London for nearly a year."

“Over the last four years she has worked tirelessly, mostly behind the scenes but to great effect, to use her ­platform and personal experiences to highlight the issue and help sufferers."

"Of course it was known Harry and Meghan would be doing engagements this week, some privately, but everyone was in agreement that Camilla’s speech should take p­recedence. ­Unfortunately some people had other ideas.”

abbyh said…

Actually I believe that since she (and Harry) are still technically royal, doing royal things, that protocol is that one is supposed to check with BP(or some central office) which oversees/coordinates what is planned for every member to avoid this breech of protocol.

So she might not have technically known that C would be making a speech but it was still up to her/the people who are still working for her (responsibility here) to check what was happening elsewhere to avoid this.
pi said…
@Hikari

I have enjoyed a multitude of your posts.

"Are you KP staff or something? Where do you come by your mean spirited intel on the Cambridges? Next I suppose you’ll tell us that Kate is a lousy mother."

Why do you think this is mean-spirited and not observation and opinion?

"They’ve both matured and stepped up admirably. They make an effective team together, and I think it’s for real, not just for optics."

I think it is not real but really good for optics. But I do believe William knows he's moving up and looks like he has accepted his fate. I also think that the Sussex crazy has lit a fire under them. Finally.
Royalfan said…
Give your head a shake @hardyboys. I don’t take exception to your POV on any topic. Just lay off the personal criticisms of other people and how they post on this site. And please don’t pretend youdont understand.
@pi,

And then there's this:

"The Duchess spoke about someone who had confided in her about their own problems: "Yes, well I recently had somebody I know well, whose daughter was married and living in a foreign country. I said to her one day 'You’re not looking quite right, what’s wrong?'

"She said 'I have this terrible problem with my daughter. I can't believe it as I have never experienced anything like this before. She’s got this strange husband who is exercising coercive control which is undermining her confidence, getting rid of her friends, alienating her family. I just don’t know what to do about it.' The fact I knew a little bit about it meant I was able to put her in touch with people who could help."

That's a third, and possibly most important reason, MM wanted Camilla's speech nearly scrubbed. Everybody was talking about how she was actually referring to Harry as being the domestic abuse victim in this quote.
pi said…
@JocelynsBellini

"Prince Charles’ wife had been planning today’s speech on the 10th anniversary of the Women of the World Festival in London for nearly a year."

Wow. Megs would have that info I'm guessing. Grrrrrrrrr.
@pi,

I'm glad that you finally understood the point. Have a good evening.
pi said…
@hardyboys

Keep posting.
pi said…
@JocelynsBellinis

Yeah I get it. Enjoy the night! :)
@hardyboys,

hardyboys said...
@PI....so well said..and I love love love your name 3.14....exactly this blog is dominated by a few multiple posters one in particular who drinks and talks about contemptinis all night long and then posts and posts and if you dare say one thing bad about the BRF or the Cambridges you have had it. Its like there is no freedom of expression. LIke Royalfan just told me to get lost bc I expressed my opinion that Port City Girl does not have neutral opinions. Royal fan and Port City Girl are free to express their opinions, but if Pi doesn't like Kate then let the poster express her opinion. I mean we all have to tolerate Hikari's multiple multiple 20 paragraph posts that are very difficult to get through and generally are meaningless rants"

I'm so sorry that this blog and some of its members frustrate you so. Perhaps there is another blog that is more in line with your interests. Have a great evening!
Anonymous said…
@pi exactly who would you hold up as a successful avatar for the BRF? The Cambs seem to do a fine job. Witness their climbing popularity in the polls. I think there is a very fine line to walk between being a person one can relate to and being too intellectual so that you seem above the crowd. Bill Clinton has a star quality charisma and is brilliant, but was brought up in a trailer park. Despite being a Rhodes scholar, he never appeared to talk over people. Barack Obama grew up in similar straightened circumstances but was seen as too intellectual and cold his first term.

In this media age where every move is on twitter and if it isn’t then we bloody well should make something up, I don’t think that Her Majesty’s form of distant and regal noblesse oblige works in a modern-day royal family. It works for her because she represents a past that is gone. She is the avatar of nostalgia. But I think the Cambs hit the right note for a modern monarchy. They are both regal when the occasion warrants it and muck about in their Welles the rest of the time. As they age, they are getting their footing near perfect. People have said they find Kate boring. I don’t know what people actually expect. Being a drama-seeking narc like Markle is better? She seems a reasonably smart woman with enough sense to know her limitations and strengths. No small beer.
pi said…
@abbyh

"So she might not have technically known that C would be making a speech but it was still up to her/the people who are still working for her (responsibility here) to check what was happening elsewhere to avoid this."

Really great point. In the olden days the different events would have been co-ordinated. Actually in these days that is the protocol.

pi said…
@wizardwench
"exactly who would you hold up as a successful avatar for the BRF? The Cambs seem to do a fine job. Witness their climbing popularity in the polls."

A great question. I think the successful avatar is Charles. He *believes* in his role and has spent his entire life dedicated to it and has creatively transcended it. This has nothing to do with popularity. Charles will be a good king.

I don't believe for a minute that the Cambs have a clue about the gravity of the monarchy and what its substance means.William rebelled against it. He also had Diana for influence about the ludicrous ideal of "normal" (hence just call me Harry while I reserve an entire train carriage, or William, I barely show up for helicopter rescue ). But they have good PR now and idealising them is working.
YankeeDoodle said…
@pi and hardy boys

I find you two, and others who come onto this site to say only nasty things about call me Harry’s brother to be rude and nonsensical. Go back to Kaiser at CB. This site is not about lies and hatred and jealousy. It is to express fair opinions, and to finally recognize the strengths of the Cambridge’s, after the years of abuse they, and especially the Duchess of Cambridge, endured, without one word from her family or friends, to defend her. She has shown dignity and class. HRH, Princess William, Duchess of Cambridge, wife of future king, and mother of future king, has shown what grace under pressure is like. She met William as a teenager; they went through good times, bad times. Break ups, living together for years; william given the love of a mother in Carole Middleton; and they married, and was given two years, by the Queen, who saw how desperately unhappy the Duke if Dinburgh was when she, at age 25*!) was, and in a sense losing a wife ang gaining a beloved woman who he walked behind his entire life.

People called the Duchess of Cambridge lazy. I do not think a mother of three is lazy, unless they are more than a bit mentally ill, as I think Both HAMS are. The HAMS disgust me. They should never have been allowed to come back to GB and act like they are the Second Coming. They are losers, cheaters, liars, cowards, and sick. The Queen should give them a kick out. How the Queen or her son Charles tolerate the PR attacks upon William, Catherine, and daily death threats against their children, is beyond my ken.. M acted or was a ho by Hollyweird standards, and cheated on her husbands and her boyfriends. Harry was kicked out of America while training with our troops, by his despicable behavior, covered up by the British press.

Go back, go back, go back.
OT,

I'm watching an old Criminal Minds episode, and it's about a virus that's been released into the public with mass deaths. The first thing the FBI Behavioral Unit does us suppress all public info about the virus so as to not cause a mass panic. Just thought this was so timely.
KnitWit said…
OT

Swampwoman, they have special tape for eyelids. Some Asian women use it. I have no idea how. I have been seeing the odd tape things near the eye creams and tools. They are shaped like mini eyebrows ( no hair, just the shape.) I asked a friend in the know. She said they are like double stick tape. I can't imagine double stick taping my eyelid. Especially for vanity.

I'll stick with my vitamins and creams. When my time comes, I may already be embalmed.
@KnitWit,

Haha! I know what you mean about already being enbalmed! When I think of the hundreds of products I've put on my face throughout the years, I'm lucky that I have a face left.
@Knitwit,

What vitamins do you take for good skin?
YankeeDoodle said…
@ pi

I learned in high school that pi is an irrational number. Your so-called opinions/attacks fit your name perfectly. Just my opinion.
Anonymous said…
I wish I could drink all night, but I did coin "Contemptinis", just sayin, but a number of us have partaken, and cheers to all my fav Nuttiers.

Sheesh some people can be mean and bitter, and so ugly to specific posters. I have several theories about who these new ones might be. Almost like they used the Cambridge attack as a distractions and then started calling out specific Nuttiers for whom they feel some animosity. New disguise? No fingerprints? I just don't know, but anyway, I'm going to go have a Contemptini and catch the best of you later.
Ian's Girl said…
Bill Clinton did not live in a trailer park, and while he was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, he didn't finish the program; it's alleged he was asked to leave Oxford due to accusations of rape. (Oxford refuses to comment and a woman named Eileen Wellstone said she was the one he assaulted. This all broke years ago on FreeRepublic, so I take it with a huge grain of salt, but I'd love to ask Ms Wellstone if he bit her, which is a kind of trademark of his.)

Barack Obama's grandmother was the Vice President of an Hawaiian bank; they lived in one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Honolulu and he attended a very expensive private high school. No idea what his years in Indonesia were like, but his stepfather was a surveyor for the government and went on to become a consultant for a huge oil company, so I imagine the family were comfortable. But Obama certainly never lived in straightened circumstances in the US.
Anonymous said…
@Crumpet, thank you for speaking up for me and our Nutty Friends. I won't let a few South Pole elves stop me. They're not new posters, they're just here under different names or they wouldn't have known about Contemptinis. And their comments quickly veered to the personal (so transparent). Honestly, after a few weeks off, I wondered how long it would take. The names change, but the toxicity remains the same. Sad.

BTW, I loved the David Sedaris Christmas piece about an Elf called Crumpet.
pi said…
@YankeeDoodle

"I learned in high school that pi is an irrational number. Your so-called opinions/attacks fit your name perfectly. Just my opinion."

You're a Yank, right? While I'm part of the Commonwealth having been born in England, Wby would a Yank have so much interest in the dynamics of royals, so antithetical to American values?

Your ad hominem is not an opinion, it is a personal attack. Still, I value your opinion when there is one- just call me irrational.
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all.

Just to repeat, polite dissenting opinions are fine on this blog, but attacking other commenters personally is not.
Thanks, Nutty. I was wondering if you'd show up.
Dallas Alice said…
I thought Meghan looked fine (other than the ill fit of the dress-the color was quite flattering). So, about Catherine: she seems to have a natural warmth and love of life that is evident when she smiles. She engages and seems genuinely interested in what she is doing. She has managed to build a solid platform around the importance of mental health and loving, nurturing environments for children. I’m sorry, but M can’t even fake giving a damn. I wish they would just go away already.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Ian's Girl:

Obama attended a non-private (state/government) elementary school in Jakarta. It was in Menteng (1960's posh) but it was not an international school. It's probably:

1) a matter of principle. My parents refused to transfer me to a Jakarta-based international school & insisted I attend an Indonesian school with an Indonesian curriculum where English was taught as a 2nd language. In hindsight, I'm VERY grateful they did.

2) in Indonesia, state-owned schools are considered more prestigious. That's where the smart kids go, it's very competitive because they're cheap tuition. It's actually considered shameful to attend a private school. It means you only got in because your parents paid your way through but your grades don't compete at the national level.

This standard applies through undergraduate level.

I attended a private uni known to be for spoiled party kids. My parents gave me a fraction (like a day's worth of my classmates allowance for my entire week + a card) of allowance. And had a chauffeur chaperone me just so I wouldn't develop a drug habit. I was picked on for it too. 😭😭 as soon as I moved to Europe, I made up for 4-years of lost party time in a year. 😂😂😘

It's hard to judge a person based on their schooling in Indonesia. But from what I know, Obama's Indonesian stepdad did introduce him to eating chilli peppers raw.

So I'm assuming the decision to enroll him to a local school was out of principle/idealism/political statement.

Otherwise, yes, they would've lived a charmed life by Jakarta standards. As most expats do. Unless you're in Jalan Jaksa.

Anyway, I think his half-sister Maya is a sweetheart. She cares about domestic workers' welfare.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Also, if Meg's got oily skin , perhaps her makeup artist should go watch Jackie Aina's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/lilpumpkinpie05

But I guess he's too busy weeping 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Scandi Sanskrit said…
KnitWit said...

OT

Swampwoman, they have special tape for eyelids. Some Asian women use it. I have no idea how. I have been seeing the odd tape things near the eye creams and tools. They are shaped like mini eyebrows ( no hair, just the shape.) I asked a friend in the know. She said they are like double stick tape. I can't imagine double stick taping my eyelid. Especially for vanity.

I'll stick with my vitamins and creams. When my time comes, I may already be embalmed.


I think SwampWoman was joking aboit keeping her eyes open while driving.

Those eyelid scotch tapes Asian girls were actually make it hard to open 😂😂 in case you didn't know, they're meant to create a "crease" so they have a "double lid".
Nutty Flavor said…
New post to discuss the events of the next three days: "Open Post: Meg's final engagements as a Royal?"
Ian's Girl said…
@Scandi Sanskrit.. thank you for your wonderful insight! I laughed out loud at your parents protecting you so keenly from falling into drug addiction!

Maya is adorable. There is something that seems particularly kind about her; I can very much see her being a champion for domestic workers. I wish we'd seen more of her here.
CatEyes said…
@Elle said....
"They're not new posters, they're just here under different names or they wouldn't have known about Contemptinis."

I disagree with respect to @Pi, as they posted under the same name a while ago, quite a long time ago in fact. I remember them due to the mathematical aspect of their name. I don't have a dog in this fight, but just want to see the truth as too many times it seems people are suspected of being this or that with no proof.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
pi said...

@Vince

"Kate IS hot. She is. She's tall, long legs, nice shape, great smile and face, classy."

Actually Kate is around 5'7" at most, is long waisted with short legs (fooled you with the heels and the high waisted dresses).

In the past she has been said to be uninterested in anyone overall except William and has shown a disinterest in anyone other than her family.

Kate is not kind, she is self-absorbed. Will is no different.


Are you kidding me?!

I'm only about 1.50 metres (about 5 feet tall).
Kate would TOWER over me & she doesn't look ridiculous standing beside William with/without heals.

Nothing weird about being primarily interested with your own partner/spouse,

And I'm pretty sure I'm AT LEAST 5x more self-absorbed than Kate (just look at me ramble on and on about myself on here). Although I can safely say I'm probably LESS self-absorbed that HRH MADAME MEGHAN.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Ian's Girl: my pleasure 🍹💜
Anonymous said…
@pi Charles was way ahead of his time vis a vis the sustainability movement for which I give him serious cred. I’m also not a Diana sycophant who thinks that Charles is evil for cheating on her. It seems that both parties wronged and were wronged with these children caught in the middle, as is the case with most divorces. By all accounts Diana used the children in her divorce battle with Charles, with the brunt of it being shouldered by William. There still seem to be a number of people still in the UK who idolized Diana and will never forgive him, blaming him for her death. That attitude seems powerful enough that Camilla can’t realistically be called Queen when Charles ascends the throne in deference (and penance) to his former late wife, which is nonsense, IMO, but there you are.

If William wasn’t that responsible at twenty-five, etc., few of us are. He and Kate now are stepping into their roles in their late thirties with grace and dedication. I don’t know why these discussions are so polarized. Me saying that the Cambs are stepping up to the plate is not casting aspersions on Charles. It just means that every time I turn around there are royal events featuring either William and Kate, or them separately. Just as Charles and Camilla also are hoofing it around the kingdom. The BRF hold a largely ceremonial role. They don’t need to be astounding orators or brilliant politicians. They make speeches, meet dignitaries, shake a ton of hands, be patrons of charities, and promote Britain on trips abroad. Kate and William seem to be holding their own on that front. I really don’t know what else you expect from them.
Sandie said…
Just for interest, here is a comparison of heights for the royal family:

https://www.littlethings.com/royal-family-heights/1

It doesn't give William's height, but he is the tallest.

Kate is actually 5'9"

Queen Victoria and the Queen Mother were midgets according to today's standards (human beings are getting taller - I am 5'8" and was awkwardly tall my entire childhood and early adulthood but now the younger generation tower over me).

The article does not include Edward, Sophie or Camilla, nor Timothy, Sarah and Peter.

I find it difficult to believe that Meghan is 5'6", the same height as Princess Anne. Have a look at the following photograph and consider that Meghan is standing with legs wide apart (why does she do that?) but is wearing higher heels than Anne (by the way, Anne is talking to Harry and Meghan is not part of the conversation as the cropped photograph implies - Harry has a serious expression so what the heck Meghan is doing I do not know):

https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/1UVtP5d0uU_eY-QQvOqlw4LDQcY/fit-in/728xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2019/03/18/890/n/1922398/d7ec34962819df08_GettyImages-1128747881/i/Meghan-Markle-Friends-Princess-Anne.jpg
Anonymous said…

I'll just add that I hope I'm wrong about the same poster(s) being involved and using multiple names to strengthen their attacks.

OTOH, it's easy enough to set up multiple email accounts and post under different names, even over a number of months (longevity would prove nothing but tenacity askew).

OTOH, how utterly whack would that be and what kind of toxic obsession, bitterness, and laser-focused animosity would that require to choose to do that... I can't imagine, so I hope I'm wrong. Of course, that would mean there are others equally mean and targeting some great Nuttiers (seriously, Hikari, PortCityGirl, and Vince are manna from heaven here!).

Oh, well, nothing I can do about any of it.

So, I'm off to Nutty's new post and looking forward to Rach's latest tackiness esp when in the presence of the Cambridges. They seem to bring out the worst in her. They slay and throw shade adroitly.
@Scandi, ‘Actually Kate is around 5'7" at most, is long waisted with short legs (fooled you with the heels and the high waisted dresses).’

Catherine is 5’10, very tall and taller than Diana. 😀
@pi,’BTW Charles will be king. Camilla will be Princess Consort. After that Kate will be Queen Consort. Neither female will be Queen.’

Catherine will be Queen. Camilla will be known as Princess Consort because both she and Charles are divorcees.
Magatha Mistie said…
@pi
Catherine will be known as Queen, as was the Queen mother, Queen to her King.
Ava C said…
About height - the average British female height is 5'4" . Kate even at 5'7" would be tall for a woman but I agree she must be around 5'9" or 5'10". Don't forget Wills is 6'3". Pretty much any woman would look short or shortish next to him.
Portcitygirl said…
Wow. Up early today and I do agitate the trolls. Haha. Thought about responding, but just don't care. Lol. However, I do deeply apologize for my opinions, neutral? or otherwise, that may have contributed to their apparent bitterness.

For all of my fav Nutties, thanks for having my back.

Nutty, you would make a wonderful teacher. You always know when to change the topic to defuse further argument. Thank you for this. Also, I am sorry for getting a little overzealous defending DC.
Sometimes I just can't help myself. Lol.

I asked my hubby if he thought Meghan Markle was attractive and his response was "who?" - I had to remind him who she's married to before he realised who I meant lol that's how much notice he takes of her. I didn't bother repeating the question, if he'd thought she was more than "forgettable" he'd have paid more attention and at least known who she was without prompting. I didn't ask his opinion of Kate, although I do know he knows who she is without needing to mention William.

@Portcitygirl,
I wish I could go no contact, but it is not possible for me as my dad needs my help

I sympathise, I had to stay in contact with my ex because of the kids. He used to use the kids to stop me from avoiding him. He'd hang around outside where I worked on the days he had them, because he knew I wasn't going to blank him or yell at him if he had the kids in tow, then tag along assuming I'd want to spend my free time with him. If I told him I had other plans I'd get accused of not wanting to see my kids or not caring about them - deliberately said right in front of them ~sighs~ In the end I moved over 100 miles away so he couldn't pull that crap, and when I travelled back down with the kids for his agreed time with them I'd make sure I had a full schedule visiting other members of my family to avoid any free time he could try and use the kids to emotionally blackmail his way into.
Wives of kings are crowned at the king's coronation, but with a smaller crown.

Gets a bit tricky when the monarch is female.

Broadly speaking, earlier solutions were:

not marrying (Elizabeth I)

Or marry a king (Mary I & Philip of Spain)

Or previously marry a husband who was already a head of state - & making him joint monarch when the time came (Mary II & William III)

Or previously marry a prince and let him avoid the political stuff (Anne & George of Denmark and Norway)

Or marry a prince, after ascending throne, call him Prince Consort but effectively function as joint monarchs on the quiet (Victoria & Albert)

Or marry a prince before ascending the throne, call him Prince Consort, he runs the family and his own projects and doesn't involve himself in monarch's political role (Elizabeth and Philip)
Portcitygirl said…
Lurking With Spoon

Off topic sorry.

Thank you. I'm sorry you had to experience that with your children, and glad you could put distance between you. That is what I've done as well, but Now I have to travel 2 hours to help out. I have gone LC mostly but with her health more contact is unavoidable. I have become symptomatic with clinical depression again and must decide on treatment. Sucks. Life is hard enough without a narc in it. With so many of us on here having to deal with narcs we should start our own blog.

I feel so sorry for the Queen having to deal with Their Royal Narcnesses. I can't imagine going through this at 93 with a sick husband.
CatEyes said…
@Elle and Others re: @Pi & @HardyBoys

I don't agree with @Pi & @HardyBoys but aty least they don't Call Names. Insult to the nth degreaa, and libel people here. Just SCROLL PAST folks like you tell us when another poster (blog's resident pet) does bad things.

'Scroll your Roll' instead of commenting back. You feed the Trolls!! Remember your advice should be taken. Just Scroll

Your advice to me and others should be used by yourselves. Just scroll past!!

Portcitygirl said…
@Cateyes

I'm sorry you were so hurt by what some posters commented, although I don't remember what it was which I guess is good.

I don't really mind a little rabble-rousing with the trolls or other posters with whom I disagree. I've developed a pretty thick skin from other sites that are downright brutal and the mods don't care at all. They only care if you are getting doxxed or your life is threatened.

But I do try to respect Nutty and not be too harsh here because it's not that kind of blog.
Lindy said…
Ok this is an off-topic rant. I was a member of the Sussex showdown FB page, I despise MM and every post has made that clear. However - he/she/non-binary owner put up a close up of Meghan’s eye makeup from the endeavor fund and it was a mess. I wondered if the photo obtained had been photoshopped because no matter how much you hate her her makeup did look good at the event. I got kicked out of the page because I said that!!! Talk about thin-skinned. So good riddance. It was kind of an embarrassing page anyway.I might also say now that I’m gone all the statements by said by he/she/non-binary owner being at Cambridge is a load of hooey since the writing is so bad, with so many grammatical errors and misuse of words. I always bit my tongue but I guess I can toss that out now. YOU DID NOT GO TO CAMBRIDGE! And oh yeah he/she/non-binary called that photo of them with the umbrella “half decent.” I get it - we all hate her but I’m not delusional. Annoyingly, it was a great photo. Rant over.
She can loose all the weight she wants, MM will always be shaped like Spnge Bob...SQUARE
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