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Prince Harry at 36 vs Princess Diana at 36

 Prince Harry is 36 years old today, roughly halfway through his time on this mortal coil, if you go by the average life expectancy for a British male. 

99-year-old Prince Philip is really an outlier; most of the men in Elizabeth's family didn't make it past their mid-70s, and Diana's father died at 68.

Thirty-six has a special poignancy for Harry, of course, because it is also the age at which his mother died.

The cult of celebrity

Diana helped create the turn-of-the-century cult of celebrity and the media to support it. Harry, ironically, has exposed its emptiness.

Once-respected establishment media names like Vanity Fair and USA Today are coo-ing over Harry's fabulous new Hollywood mansion, generous Netflix producing deal, satisfying marriage to an intelligent and glamorous woman, and proud fatherhood to a red-haired baby boy.

Does anyone really believe this? And even if they do, do they care?

In a time of pandemic, mass demonstrations, and violence, the problems of two little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world

And while Diana was constantly pursued by the media, Harry has to pay PR people to pay establishment media outlets to run news about him and Meghan.

(You can see some of those pay-to-play outlets in today's run of Prince Harry birthday stories, like Yahoo Entertainment and Tulsa World.)

The role of social media

Another difference between Diana at 36 and Harry at 36 is the role of social media. In 1997, social media wasn't much more than a few AOL chatrooms and a few random message boards.

Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and Reddit were all almost a decade away, and the Daily Mail existed only on paper.

Before her death, Diana was experiencing a dip in popularity. The public was tired of her drama, and didn't particularly like her boyfriend of the moment, Dodi Fayed. 

But if you were around at that time and followed Diana, there were not many people you could talk with about it. There were your friends and family, maybe your barber or beautician. 

You could choose to buy or not buy magazine or newspapers with Di's face on them, which was a way for the media industry to gauge her popularity. 

(I don't even want to think about what Twitter trolls would have done with Di's many romances with married men, or how they would have handled her gruesome death.)

Transparency changes the world

Today, of course, we can all share our opinions of Meghan and Harry through this blog and many other outlets. 

We can find many other people out there who share our opinion of the Sussexes, and amplify it. We can can share information and speculate together about things that are hidden. 

Diana felt that she was not in control of the media intrusion into her life, but at least there were a limited number of outlets that could publish gossip about her or photos.

Harry has no such control. Almost everyone in the Western world has access to platforms that reach an international audience. 

Bad news about him travels fast, and it's easy to point out his hypocrisies and broken promises by linking to earlier stories.

The transparency and access to information that has developed over the past twenty years has changed society in many ways - who would have imagined that we would all be watching the deaths of individuals on police bodycams or from multiple cellphone angles? - but it has also taken much of the awe and mystery away from celebrities and royals. 

Celebrity and royal glamour are what Harry and Meghan need to sell in order to support their lavish living. 

It's not a hot product at the moment the way it was in 1997, when Diana was 36 years old. 


Comments

HappyDays said…
Welcome aboard, Natalier. This is a smart group, and like you, many of the nutties are familiar with narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder. We also have some legal eagles, people with backgrounds on media, medicine, education, and a variety of interests non work-related.

There are occasional disagreements, but generally the nutties get along quite well.
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lucy said…
@Wullie you just made me look and yes tonight 10pm EST on ABC. At least it only seems to be an hour but I *really* do not want to watch it. I loathe that sort of programming and even with epic trainwreck potential I am still not drawn to it. It is regular network programming, perhaps it is livestreamed somewhere?

I volunteer Swamp Woman. She would be good commentator :)
Who else is in US? Wondering what time it airs on West Coast

This doesn't read like that they are actually on the list,no? Has it been confirmed? How could they make list as couple? Odd if so

https://time.com/5889641/time100-television-event-abc-musical-performances-special-appearances/
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So,

Raise your hand if you think Omid wrote the book without Meghan's indirect involvement.

Raise your hand if you think People are monsters who lifted a private lettered article to beat an old man over the head?

Lastly, raise your hand if you think Omid will throw Meghan under the bus at the hearing, now that we know she is trying to discredit him completely as an author/reporter.

He is employed by a massive publication as a royal correspondent. They will cover his legal fees.

This woman has to be the dumbest woman to walk the earth, bringing out such a public lawsuit over her private life.
Miggy said…
@Wullie,

Thank you... but I only mentioned it because a vast number of his supporters in this instance are also victims of DV. True victims can see through a phoney like Amber in seconds. She might as well have *LIAR* flashing on her head in neon lights. None of her actions before, during, or after her divorce were the actions of an abused woman.
In fact - the very opposite!

As for Depp - don't get me wrong, I actually like the guy and think he's a talented actor but I'm too old to be considered his fan! lol

IMO, Heather Mills, Amber Heard, Meghan Markle - are all narcs that share similar characteristics and that gives us a valid reason to discuss them.

On that note, I'll wish you all goodnight. :)
Blithe Spirit said…
@Nutty Flavor, Great catch. Expressions will vary widely depending on age, gender and culture. I bet the computer read her fake smile as highly trustworthy compared to TQ's reserved face.

@Fairy Crocodile,

True. Ted Bundy was reputed to come across as charming, sincere and friendly.

@ Jocelyn'sBelliinis, no it doesn't work at all!
Grisham said…
@wullie, I’ll look the letter up on FF, but it will have to be tomorrow. Sorry. I’m about to crash and I don’t remember what he said about it.
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SwampWoman said…
lucy said...
@Wullie you just made me look and yes tonight 10pm EST on ABC. At least it only seems to be an hour but I *really* do not want to watch it. I loathe that sort of programming and even with epic trainwreck potential I am still not drawn to it. It is regular network programming, perhaps it is livestreamed somewhere?

I volunteer Swamp Woman. She would be good commentator :)
Who else is in US? Wondering what time it airs on West Coast.


Wait, what? No, I don't even want to watch it through somebody else's eyeballs! I don't have enough alcohol for that and I think that the local liquor store has closed for the evening. I'm also not sure that I would qualify for a liver transplant after ruining a perfectly good one anesthetizing myself against their appearance. Best to just delegate it to somebody with a better stocked liquor cabinet and a generous healthcare package.
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@Swampwoman

Can't help you there. Saw they were goin g to be on "primetime' and turned off the telly. Then opened a bottle of chardonnay....
Unknown said…
If words could prove who's to last
I wonder if it's your dearie lass
yet surprise as who that might be
one who'se known and one who can blast.

Be her acerbic tongue might sting the viper's own
when words she does spout
swell a bloated cartoon whale
in stinking funk all she knows.
lucy said…
I will turn it on 😒

Not drinking either 😠
I haven't turned tv on in forever. I only have antenna so I hope it is not station that scrambles, if I am in , I prefer to be all in.

She better not insult me with her outfit ,or hair. I wonder if this is what prompted Harry to trim his locks..

This appearance should be important to Meg, let us see how much she cares

Everyone who is able to must peek, Nutty solidarity! 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇮🇩 😉
lucy said…
UPDATE

I am out. No signal whatsoever. I really tried. It is the Lord's will 🤷‍♀️
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lucy said…
Sorry Nutty*

*🇪🇪
lucy said…
Loving the play by play. Sure to be lame hyped up 2minute appearance, or not 🤞😁
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HappyDays said…
Have the TIME 100 special on. The Weekend just sang and they are in a commercial break right now. The voiceover teased to several famous people by name and “the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, so they are still using those royal titles they hate so much.
They are profiling Dr. Fauci, the epidemiologist who has been front and center for the pandemic guidance in the US. Now they are listing the Artists category of the TIME 100. They are now profiling the actor Michael B. Jordan and teen queen Jojo Siwa.

Commercial break: Up next Meghan Thee Stallion, a couple of others names I missed and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. The profiles are about two to four minutes at the most. How much word salad will they be able to fit into that brief amount of time and will she have a death grip on Harry or be pawing all over him.

Profiling Meghan Thee Stallion now.

Jennifer Hudson is singing now. She looks great with short hair and that amazing voice.

Now profiling a documentary journalist who won a BAFTA. Her first name is Waad.

Commercial break and tease to Halsey, who is going to sing, and the Harkles. Tease photo shows them sitting a bench outside in a yard-like setting. Not touching each other at all as they sit on the bench.

Now listing their Leaders list.

Profiling an Amazon Rain Forest activist.

Now Halsey is singing.

Harry snd Meghan congratulating al of the world changers with a lovely word salad about online bullying. Meghan is urging people to vote saying this is the most important election of our lives.

They had about 2 minutes to pontificate. I’m sure the papers will have the entire script.


Magatha Mistie said…

@HappyDays

Meghan Thee Stallion hahaha
More like Meghan Thee Mule!

The real Megan Thee Stallion has an album “Suga”
Lyrics from one of her songs:

I’m that bitch (yeah)
Been that bitch, still that bitch (ah)
Will forever be that bitch (forever be that bitch)
Yeah (ayy,ha)...

Could have been written for/by Megass
The donkey and her plonker!
lucy said…
Sorry no commentary from me!I could not get channel to tune in

Meg still wearing this? https://m.dhgate.com/product/z-f-black-80-cm-long-silky-straight-lace/407923616.html
Jdubya said…
Puds - The list is online and NO, M&H are NOT on the list
Magatha Mistie said…

‘People’ has an article on them, strange photo of them on a bench.
Both looking forlorn, and, well worn...
HappyDays said…
@Puds: I couldn’t quite tell if they are on the list or not.
HappyDays said…
Compared to the other people on the list, Harry and Meghan have NO achievements to speak of. If they ARE on this list, it’s by working their connections.
HappyDays said…
Magatha Mistie said...

‘People’ has an article on them, strange photo of them on a bench.
Both looking forlorn, and, well worn..

@Magatha Mistie: I haven’t seen the People image, but I bet it’s the same bench and setting for their TIME 100 video clip. You are right, they don’t look that great.
AnT said…
Hi. Longtime lurker, just flipped on the TIME 100 show and their segment was starting, so I didn’t have to suffer through the dreck (thank you to the angels above). They sat under green trees on green grass in a sort of leafy alcove we are supposed to assume was their property but to me, it looked more New England or lush U.K. countryside. A black dog came loping through the background as if on cue and did not notice them, or lope over to them or ever acknowledge them, though they sat talking to the camera just feet away. No baby Farchie ever showed up. They were seated on a classic weathered wood garden bench. It was a smaller size, packing them in together. We are a Team! See, Wills?

Harry wore a marine blue suit and white shirt, with scruffy honey brown suede boot shoes. He twisted his hands. He looked thin. His hair and beard seemed 20% more groomed. He spoke, then looked down and about as she spoke. He seemed a bit ill at ease.

She wore a rust brown shirt with roll sleeve treatment, nondescript black pants which must have been capris, as one pant leg rode high up on her shin as she wiggled restlessly while speaking. She wore black heels. Hair swept back and side to a sort of Kardashian ponytail. She looked down and remained still as he spoke quietly. Her face seemed braced between smugness and coldness,

When it was her turn, it was like someone jacked up the sound and her grating flat chalkboard voice blared out loudly and she treated us to a chin jutting lecture about voting, “never more important” to vote, vote vote vote, Her angry eyes shot laser ice at the humble listening commoners as she spoke aggressively about her orders for us, and we were treated to film footage of voting signs and registration sites in case we didn’t know what voting is, for example if we were cheap D list hustlers who spent our adult life on yachts smooching hairy old portly Russian men all over for tips, I am sure many viewers wrote her barking orders down: vote! Harry twisted his hands and looked around while she hammered her message home. Then he chimed in, but speaking more loudly now to be like his aggressive wife, obeying the orders emanating from her bossy little eyes how he can’t vote yet in America but as someone who never got to vote, he knows how important it is because his wife made him write it 500,000 times in NARS lipstick on the walls of an unused bathroom. Or maybe that isn’t quite what he said, but that was the impression I got from his statement. He is pleased to be in on the scam, I think, even if he was forced to wear a Nonoo husband shirt under his old spring JCrew jacket. Her outfit reminded of Uniqlo, $39.99. Her expression was FU mixed with Haha and some I am Queen of this bench and Time magazine and you can’t stop me. She seemed angry and cold and sure she can have people thrown off cliffs. He seemed less sure but hopeful he might get a speaking part on Dancing with the Stars. She seemed proud her one pant leg rode up sloppily during the taping, maybe that is the new style she will launch from her Villa Sadness collection for WalMart.

There was some gurgle about being honored to be part of the 100 list but I was so busy screaming “this has crossed every political line, strip their titles now!” That I don’t recall if either directly thanked Time, or, People, or the Soho House Shill Development Fund, or SS or Netflix for paying for their honor, Nor did they ask us to call a number if we spotted the missing Markus Anderson.

Score: two rats out of five, Loss of rats for loud political pandering, her icy death gaze, and proving their dog doesn’t know them.
lucy said…
This may be their preach?

https://honey.nine.com.au/royals/prince-harry-meghan-markle-tv-appearance-time100-highlights/0867a3a6-5a02-42e5-9f24-27afe85aba6c

Tone of her voice is so off putting
Unknown said…
Oh my god.

I watched the clip of Meghan and Harry reading their script looking unhappy, angry, and fiddling on a bench.

Harry talks a lot about how negativity spreads and we need to stop it (lol! look who's next to you dude)

but then

Goes into,"I won't be able to vote in this election. I don't know, if you all know but I've never been able to vote in my life."

WOW, once again, throwing the UK under the bus.

This is getting really psycho. She's clearly brainwashed Harry. And he's now seriously turned his back on the RF.

There is no chance they will be keeping their titles. Harry has now gone political and it's obvious he's out to overthrow the Monarchy and William.

What a traitor. I don't think anyone can respect this.

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Crumpet said…
@WilliesBucket and @HappyDays

Passing the sick bucket to you...in case y'all need it!

Just google the video clip of the happy couple on the bench @youtube. Hairy kept sucking his teeth. The best part of the 2 minute clip was the black dog that wandered behind the couple.

I take it they were just filler, but did not really make it onto the Time 100?
Unknown said…
If anything they have ruined Harry's reputation more. It keeps getting worse. GO HOME. HARRY. (you guys just KNOW he reads this blog)

You're out here lecturing us, as a brand new fucking resident who might just be on a visitors' visa.

How condescending, rude, elitist, globalist, misplaced, misdirected and incredibly tone DEAF.

We had the revolutionary war for a reason. We don't need a Prince coming over to tell us what to do. Go home and go away, give your brother a hug and apologize for being a sad story in the history of Britain. Once you are there, give Archie to grandma for the weekend and divorce your low rent wife. You're 36, not 26.

The world will then, maybe, start to forgive you. Maybe. I'm sure Meghan's convinced you it's too late to go back, but you should read every comment on this blog. It will get worse.
Unknown said…
Omid hasn't tweeted since the lawsuit revelations regarding his book.

Wonder what he's gonna do.
AnT said…
@Puds, thanks, happy to try to supply the viewing experience as quickly as I could. I was shocked I happened to catch it actually and scrambled for my iPad.

Unfortunately I felt so bullied by their aggressive social presentation to we lazy commoners, I missed reporting some of the content others have luckily noted. Thank goodness for all of our collective takeaway.
AnT said…
@Unknown, so well said. They are apparently totally tone deaf.
Unknown said…
AnT, your post is hilarious. NARS lmao!!!

Found this comment on ABC' twitter :

Frosenia
@frosenia_
Replying to
@ABCNetwork
The world has come to the point of taking voting messages from a 35yo prince who hasn’t seen a ballot in his life so far and a woman who gave up on her voting rights in order to acquire an aristocracy title and private jet around the world? No one gets the irony?
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AnT said…
@Unknown, great find. Frosenia is not wrong,

The comments are going to be amazing.....
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AnT said…
@WB, thanks! My eyes are still circles of astonishment. I must go empty my sick bucket too!
Crumpet said…
@AnT and @unknown,

Oh, God. Thank you, thank you for those Amazing posts. AnT my side hurts. I have to read it again.

I think the dog was put on the scent for the missing Master Archie.
AnT said…
Oh my god, WB, your dog peeing In the bushes observation! That’s IT! (What is it with all the peeing with this two!? Is that associated with chapter three in Yachting for Coins?)

Oh in spite of the horror, this has been such fun! Oh Crumpet what have we witnessed!
@Puds,

RE: MM's phones being subpoenaed, I seem to recall reading somewhere that MM had an encrypted phone on which she could speak to members of the BRF. Anybody else remember reading about this? Would they be able to subpoena an encrypted phone for the MoS case? Or would that be a matter of national security and, therefore, untouchable?
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emeraldcity said…
Harry says.....'Not many people know this, but I haven't been able to vote for my entire life'

Perhaps not many people know that because it is a complete lie, there is no law which prohibits members of the RF from voting, traditionally they do not vote but Harry could have voted if he really wanted to, if he didn't want to be seen at a polling station he could have sent in a postal vote. The truth is he didn't want to be bothered with it like many of his fellow UK citizens. Everytime he opens his mouth it just compounds his stupidity and ignorance.
Maneki Neko said…
New Harry Markle up, "The Sussexes Hijack (RBG and the Gurkhas) And Hitch A Ride On More Bandwagons"
Maneki Neko said…
@Puds

By the way we all seem to be ignoring what role Harry has played in the details and publication of the book. He is keeping very quiet, guess he dreads getting called up as a witness.
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I don't think Harry is a natural liar (of course, I could be completely wrong), unlike MM who lies as she breathes. I'm not sure he'd make a reliable witness, even with a lot of 'coaching' from MM. A good QC could easily make mince meat of him. If this were to happen, imagine the harpy's fury.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki 😘

She puts her Left foot in
Her Right foot out
In out In out
It ends up in her mouth
Phwoar, Hokey, Wokey, Cokey
Knees bent, head bobbed
Blah blah blah
Maneki Neko said…
Sorry, forgot this:

@Unknown

Goes into,"I won't be able to vote in this election. I don't know, if you all know but I've never been able to vote in my life."
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He's known this all his life and had never whinged about it until now. So obviously, wifey's had a word in his ear about how important it is to vote. This only goes to show how brainwashed he's been. The BRF must be cringing with embarrassment. Next, she might convince him he's gender fluid or something similar.
Frenchieliv said…
Strip the titles!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8762603/Meghan-Markle-labels-November-vote-important-lifetime.htmlip the titles!
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Shaggy said…
@Puds!!!
There is something of the painting American Gothic by Grant Wood about the Markles expressions, stand them up and put a pitch fork in Harrys hand and thats it.
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Yes!!! That's so funny. Great observation.
And thanks for the Guardian article - I will read it tomorrow.
Magatha Mistie said…

Harry the cad with no vote
I’d like to shove his no vote down his throat
This entitled prat
Is nowt but a twat
Prince Haw Haw the woke, weaselly stoat
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Sandie said…
I am not sure how this works in the British legal system, but when the prosecution/defence are given access to devices and accounts to search for evidence (as has been done in the Markle vs MOS case):

Access depends on being able to access what is there so codes have to be provided.

Access depends on the person (Markle) providing a complete list of all accounts and devices that she used in that time.

Access depends on the content still being there. Meghan has had many months to copy, hide and delete. A user can delete and retrieve WhatsApp messages, but I do not know if long deleted emails can be restored (personally, I have tried and failed in the past). Facebook keeps a record, I think, but what about messages on a phone? It must be a year since Meghan started this legal case against MOS, and I can imagine legal counsel asking her if she was sure she wanted to do this as it was very likely that the MOS would ask for and get access to all her communications. Said in that way, it would not be unethical.

The legal team that asked for access will go through everything (or what they can access), make a summary of all the evidence handed over (the logistics of how many messages), extract those that they can use as evidence and then present the package to the court. The Markle lawyers will have objections, and the judge will have to rule on that.

Markle's legal team will probably insist on having a representative with the MOS legal team while they sift through what they are given.

As for leaks of salacious gossip, any legal person linked to such leaks will suffer the consequences of unethical conduct. I doubt that anyone would throw away their career to pass on a bit of gossip about Markle.

The only messages and so on that MOS will see are those that the judge allows to be admitted as evidence, so hold the tea!

The above is my understanding of the process and the likely risks. Meghan tends to be sloppy with details so she may not have done the housekeeping of cleaning up her electronic trail almost a year ago, but she has a very strong sense of self preservation and no respect for authority nor integrity (my opinion). She can use the excuse of 'starting afresh' for a clean up, but it will look bad.

Instructions to friends could have been done in a phone calls and there would only be a record of the calls and no content.

MOS just needs one piece of evidence as a smoking gun. Markle is messy with details so I suspect that the smoking gun will be there.
Sandie said…
Gosh, can Harry's family not send a kidnap and deprogramming team to LA to rescue Harry?!

For a couple who were over the top with PDA, and for a woman who always overdid the intense adoring gaze, the body language in that video is awkward! Well, even without their history, that does not look like a couple that are happy and comfortable with each other!
`if you can fake sincerity, you've got it made' - George Burns.

Just shows what a lousy actress she is, she `leaks' all the time. She just can't stop projecting her faults onto others, so strong is her unwarranted self-belief.

She left being two-faced behind years ago, I guess. She is multi-faced, both metaphorically and literally. (Where did those cheekbones come from? Is if clever `sculpting' with make up or have they just been built up internally?)

Presumably, Harry has us in mind when he drones on about social media.

Well, do you, Harry? Let me be clear - It's your behaviour I loathe, despise and detest. To me, it say everything about your hypocrisy, and treachery to your family and country.

You've chucked our love back at us, along with a heaps of festering ordure.

Have some humility, man. Take a lesson from John Profumo who was accused of betraying his Queen and country to the Soviets. I doubt if you've heard of him, Harry. He was the cabinet minister who fell from grace in 1963 but afterwards humbly and quietly worked for the good of others.

Read his Wikipedia entry and take note of the following:

All this work was done as a volunteer, since Profumo was able to live on his inherited wealth.

His wife, the actress Valerie Hobson, also devoted herself to charity until her death in 1998.

In the eyes of some, Profumo's charity work redeemed his reputation.


If Profumo could do it, so can you

I'd like to revise my opinion of you but you'd have to came back with some contrition in your heart.

Until then,

Judas! Judas! Judas!
It's easy to forget there are 2 people involved in sending any letter, text or email -the sender and the recipient.

The sender may have scrubbed whatever they can but they have no control over whether the recipient has kept the evidence for their own protection.

I bet Megsy's forgotten that.
Natalier said…
Thanks all for the welcome. I am not active as a poster but I read all the comments most days. I feel that there are many posters here with well articulated opinions and really, I learn more from them than otherwise. And yes, I am banned fm DM nearly all of the time.
emeraldcity said…
The best comment in the DM so far

"Harry, blink three times if you're still in there"



Miggy said....

https://twitter.com/PorneMichaels/status/1306841977128972292

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@Miggy

Thank you for that link Doria Ragland as Director, CEO and Chief Financial Officer of the very grand sounding 'Loving Kindness Senior Care Management. Inc.' What an eye opener, the web site makes it look like a highend care home but I think it's basically just some form of telephone counselling service once you join.

It appears Doria is front and centre in a fleece the families of seniors scheme, no way would she have the money, resources or expertise needed to run that business in the manner perported on their web site. Especially as she was reported to be teaching hippy jewellery making classes for a few dollars a lesson not long ago.

All very, very suspicious and all set up right after Meg&Ha left the UK. A nice place to keep H&M's surplus cash?

Magatha Mistie said…

Harry Markle mentioned the Gurkhas, one of the finest forces in the world.
Bravery, loyalty and honour. They’ve served the Crown well.
Something Harry lacks in spades.
Magatha Mistie said…

@emerald@Miiggy

Doria was always the ‘silent’ partner.
I still don’t understand how Kates family were ripped apart by the press,
yet no word on Doria?
KC said…
Hikari said, "As I recall, the bitterly acrimonious divorce of Sir Paul from his Narc was the most expensive in British history . . and Heather Mills had herself a huge payday, despite being stupid enough to represent herself."

Maybe, but nowhere near what she wanted, she was trying to claim money for air travel expense and so on for all this charity work she said she was doing, but the judge would not buy it because the receipts and other paperwork she showed were all within a few months of the divorce case coming to court, not over a couple of years during the marriage. She wanted half of his billions but only got some millions, nowhere near what she was reaching for.

Remember how Heather stopped and poured a glass of water over Fiona Appleton's head, as she was leaving the courtroom on the last day? The water just ran off Fiona's perfected coiffed hair like water off a duck's back. (For those who wonder, Appleton was Sir Paul's lawyer and she represented the Prince of Wales in his divorce, where Diana cleaned him out and he had to borrow money from the Queen to fulfill the final settlement. Appleton was much more successful for McCartney's case.)
KC said…
sorry, everyone, kinda OT but funny. Heather did the most spiteful thing she could think of in the moment and Fiona hardly noticed.

We will get even more stories of petty revenge if/when the Sussexes divorce, I bet. MM will try to make it the Divorce of the Century!
Natalier said…
@KC

I would rather it be the divorce of the century than a merry widow. I just have an awful nagging feeling ..........
abbyh said…

DM comment on the Time video (wins the internet in my opinion)

"It's funny... you can't even see her hand working his mouth ... but I know she's doing it ..."
LavenderLady said…
@AnT posted on September 23, 2020 at 6:40 AM (per Blogspot, too many characters to re-post with a reply...damn!)
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Ah. Thanks be to the Blog God. Doing a happy dance for this most excellent piece of commentary. I loved it!

Just the right amount of snark without the crass low blows. My 'John Lennon' is very chuffed right now. THANK YOU for coming out of lurking (giving us a much needed blood transfusion she says in her best Liverpool accent...).

I will look forward to reading your posts while I keep my morning vigils-for Marcus Anderson and Archie Windsor to show up on my milk carton.

Welcome Welcome Welcome! I can blow out my candles!

God Speed.
D1 said…
Has anyone else noticed that Harrys hair grows pretty quick in the space of a couple of days.

Trailwalker Relay video, Harry had a haircut.
Time magazine video, looks longer.

Could be my eyesight.
Enbrethiliel said…
I literally didn't even remember that they would be on the broadcast and completely missed it!

Not that I totally believe in Prince Harry's birthday Zoom call, but had actually it taken place, I'm sure no mention was made of what Harry now thinks about voting, whether in the UK or US.
Girl with a Hat said…
@D1, Time video probably done before the shearing.
Magatha Mistie said…

The mistress of treason
Was ‘It’ for one season
The rest was all covered in mire
She tried to deceive us
Tongue poking, mischievous
She’s naught but a madam, and devious

xxxxx said…
Megsy Wegsy Do
Netflix is on to you
When you don't produce
They will reduce
Your payment down to one sou (old Canadian penny coin)
RE Heather Mills's assault on Fiona Appleton -

Funny thing is, when I at last got my Decree Absolute from my narc ex, who had finally got legal representation instead of acting for himself, I thanked his solicitor as we left the court `for getting him to see sense at last'.

Mind you, the boot was on the other foot and had we stayed married, I could have gone after him for money but I took the view that my freedom was worth more than vengeance. That possibility was enough to make him settle and pay back what I'd out into buying the matrimonial home.
Correction `put', not `out'.
D1 said…
@ Girl with a hat

Yes, I was thinking that as well.

Wondering if the videos had dates on them.

Miggy said…
@emeraldcity,

@Miggy

Thank you for that link Doria Ragland as Director, CEO and Chief Financial Officer of the very grand sounding 'Loving Kindness Senior Care Management. Inc.'


I can't take credit for it, as I didn't post it.

To whoever did, I say thank you too. :)
xxxxx said…
@KC

As far as Heather Mills goes. All Paul's children told him not to do it, get married to her. They warned and disputed him. And now she is engaged with a toyboy (pre-Covid)Take that McCartney money and baby and run with it. A template for Megsy, but I think Megsy kind of evil is self authored.

Heather Mills is dating a toyboy 16 years her junior after ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article...
Jul 06, 2019 · So Heather Mills is now taking a different approach to romance – by dating a toyboy. Former model Heather, 51, has found love with film producer …
Has anyone watched the Tony Hancock video I gave the link to?

-Tony has a high opinion of his own capacity as a barrister, based on LCC (London County Council) evening classes and watching TV courtroom drama such as Perry Mason.

-Sid James does a pitiful `poor me 'act in the dock - he gets off but TH ends up in Dartmoor.

All very familiar!

Btw - no Counsel would dare shout `Objection' in an English court; only auctioneers use gavels.

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Not sure what HM could do to stop Harry creating a diplomatic incident- he has absolutely no business opening his mouth like that in the US. -

Perhaps we should ask for him back before he's deported as an undesirable alien?

I wonder if there's a law that could be invoked for an extradition warrant? I'm sure the current POTUS would only be too happy to oblige.

A lot of us resented her spouting off about the UK and EU - Obama's comments on the same didn't go down too well either. It's all so sickening.
LavenderLady said…
@WBBMsaid,
I could have gone after him for money but I took the view that my freedom was worth more than vengeance. That possibility was enough to make him settle and pay back what I'd out into buying the matrimonial home.
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Yes freedom from a narc is priceless. It took me 20 years to completely detangle myself from him due to having children with him. It's sad to say but when he passed, I felt a sense of relief which overshadowed any sense of sadness. Such is the misery of living with a narcissist. Post marriage, he was like a business partner because we had kids and property. It was miserable torture. Consequently, I have vowed to NEVER remarry.

It's always best to cut and run because they are relentless and will hound you until the day they die.

I do not wish a raging narc on my worse enemy, not even on Harry. I truly believe he is caught in his wife's trap. He didn't see the writing on the wall when he was dating her. He made a huge blunder marrying the witch and he will suffer for his stupidity and stubbornness for a very long time. Unfortunately, in his case so will his family. JMHO.
JHanoi said…
i just watched the Time video.
i think it was done in their own backyard, and the black dog in the background was the one the got when they moved to Califonia. after all Harry desperately needs a friend.

Harry - when he’s speaking he sounds good, like his usual self, but when MM speaks, he starts fidgeting and seems insecure. his body language when he speaks seems more of less like his old self, but when he’s off, he’s leaning on the bench arm, fidgeting, uncomfortable.
MM on the other hand is smack in the middle of the bench, little or no fidgeting, gives the appearance aof self assured, ‘i know it all’ confidence. MM once again the attention hog. she’s in sufferable!

their pose actually reminds me of the Archie christening pictures. when MM was smack in the middle of the bench, PH off to the side, and the cambridges rest of the family where the photographer placed them. in that picture MM seemed to move herself to smack in the middle, center of attention, everyone else was window dressing to her ‘greatness’, including archie.
SwampWoman said…
Good morning, y'all! Happy to see that some of you threw yourself on the grenade of Times 100 in order to save the rest of us the horror. I doubt that many could have made it through what sounds like interminable political posturing in order to get to the end without a severe case of nausea and vomiting. If you could, you have a far less sensitive gag reflex than I do.

My takes from the descriptions are that Harry truly doesn't understand why his family must be nonpolitical which makes me reduce my assumptions about his IQ once again. At this point, I believe that he may be underqualified to bag groceries.

Megs would appear to have no insight into her condition and how all of her problems are created by her. Not her family. Not her husbands/boyfriends. Not racial prejudice. Her. She really has no connection whatsoever with anything approaching normal emotions and this is why she is flailing and failing. Whether this is genetic or she sustained a head injury as a child/infant, I don't know, but she ain't right.
Girl with a Hat said…
Jordan Peterson on men who marry "witchy" but he means "bitchy" women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apxU8Ow99-8

it's fascinating
SwampWoman said…
JHanoi said: Harry - when he’s speaking he sounds good, like his usual self, but when MM speaks, he starts fidgeting and seems insecure. his body language when he speaks seems more of less like his old self, but when he’s off, he’s leaning on the bench arm, fidgeting, uncomfortable.

Could it be the fidgeting of one needing some chemical stimulant?
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM said,
Has anyone watched the Tony Hancock video I gave the link to?

and

Not sure what HM could do to stop Harry creating a diplomatic incident- he has absolutely no business opening his mouth like that in the US. -

Perhaps we should ask for him back before he's deported as an undesirable alien?

I wonder if there's a law that could be invoked for an extradition warrant? I'm sure the current POTUS would only be too happy to oblige.

A lot of us resented her spouting off about the UK and EU - Obama's comments on the same didn't go down too well either. It's all so sickening.
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I watched it. It was the comedic relief I needed. Thanks for that link, it was hilarious. I enjoy old episodes if British shows. I've watched a lot of them but not that show. I love old school British humor. It cuts to the bone in a very sophisticated sounding manner.

I thought of you all when reading the pieces on their appearance and felt the gall as much I can being I'm not British. They sicken me as well but not to the degree Harry's county men and women must feel. They are a disgrace...
Enbrethiliel said…
@Puds
Meanwhile Michelle Obama had a big online voting event the Markles appear not to have been invited to.

Do you suppose that's why they made their TIME 100 speech about voting? So that they'd still be doing what the "in" crowd was doing, although they weren't welcome to the party at all?

I guess Meghan is hoping that when Michelle Obama's Instagram Live event hits the news, Harry's and her message will share a bit of airtime, being equally "relevant" and having come out on the same day.
SwampWoman said…
5x said
As far as Heather Mills goes. All Paul's children told him not to do it, get married to her. They warned and disputed him. And now she is engaged with a toyboy (pre-Covid)Take that McCartney money and baby and run with it. A template for Megsy, but I think Megsy kind of evil is self authored.

Heather Mills is dating a toyboy 16 years her junior after ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article...
Jul 06, 2019 · So Heather Mills is now taking a different approach to romance – by dating a toyboy. Former model Heather, 51, has found love with film producer …


Yeah, I believe his 'love' is much the same as hers for Paul, it's all about the money.
LavenderLady said…
@SwampWoman said,
Good morning, y'all! Happy to see that some of you threw yourself on the grenade of Times 100 in order to save the rest of us the horror. I doubt that many could have made it through what sounds like interminable political posturing in order to get to the end without a severe case of nausea and vomiting. If you could, you have a far less sensitive gag reflex than I do.
__________

I wouldn't watch that crap if I was paid handsomely for doing so. I stayed out of contributing to the discussion because the Time 100 display featuring those two was a farce and a national disgrace to GB, and out of respect to our allies.

I would go so far as to say Harry and his witch of a wife are treasonous. Maybe Toronto Paper1 had the right idea...
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
My takes from the descriptions are that Harry truly doesn't understand why his family must be nonpolitical which makes me reduce my assumptions about his IQ once again.

I think he does understand it, hence the cognitive dissonance coming out in his body language, as noticed by @JHanoi. He knows he's burning yet another a bridge and he's not happy about it at all.

This isn't someone who celebrated his birthday with a fantastic Zoom call with his wife, toddler son and extended family just a few days ago.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Megs spending the night before the wedding at Cliveden?
Hahahaha
Profumo #2

AnT said…
@LavenderLady, hello and thank you for the kind welcome. I just lurk because everyone else’s comments are so interesting and info-packed, there has never seemed to be a reason for me to post. Last night I was suddenly in a position to supply some play-by-play, so I did, as a small repayment to everyone here on this incredible blog. Thanks Nutty, and all the other Nutties, for creating this rare space.

I can only gossip about this debacle with one American friend, and a few work colleagues in the U.K., so this blog was a great discovery and a fun way to decompress from work and survive lockdown. Disclosure: I was a moderate MM fan (“Harry is happy, she has an international relations past and communications skills!”) until the bizarre Teens on the Edge engagement interview. Narcissist Alert buzzers!

It’s all like plot points from a bad Adam Sandler movie (doll hand tied to her neck w bodyguard’s shoelace, square bumps, Hair Mountain, rental stunt babies, shoving a feeble-minded blood prince around) mixed with the tale of Joe Dirt. Hard to stop watching the train wreck.
LavenderLady said…
@Enbre...said,
I guess Meghan is hoping that when Michelle Obama's Instagram Live event hits the news, Harry's and her message will share a bit of airtime, being equally "relevant" and having come out on the same day.
________

It's pathetic to make such an embarrassing, desperate move. But it is her MO.
SwampWoman said…
LavenderLady said: I wouldn't watch that crap if I was paid handsomely for doing so.

How handsomely are we talking here? I might, depending on the money being thrown about. If I were paid to watch it, it would be set up like Mystery Science Theater 3000 with friends (also paid!) ad-libbing dialogue from the comfy chairs. We'd be busily laughing, talking, mocking, and throwing popcorn at the television whenever Megan came on. If we weren't paid, nope.
LavenderLady said…
@AnT,
So glad to have you here :) It gets a bit wonky at times but stay with it! This space needs more commentary of your quality!

Lavender Lady
LavenderLady said…
@SwampWoman,
LOL. You make a very interesting point and proposition for the next televised fiasco ;)
emeraldcity said…
@ SwampWoman

What I would really like is a few Gogglebox episodes to include the gruesomes.
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel said...This isn't someone who celebrated his birthday with a fantastic Zoom call with his wife, toddler son and extended family just a few days ago.

If his wife was in on a Zoom call with his family, I would assume that she was making sure he didn't sneaky beg for a hostage rescue team.
Magatha Mistie said…
So An T & Lavender Lady are the same?
LavenderLady said…
@Magatha,
So An T & Lavender Lady are the same?
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I am complimented by this comparison. Thank you but no alas only in Magical Thinking Land, my dear.

Keep up the great poems. I so enjoy them! :)
So according to CDAN, Meghan's first project for Netflix is going to a documentary about .... herself. Or more precisely, a documentary about how the mean the nasty British press was to poor little Megsy and how she is fighting them in court to stop them being mean to her. It's kind of funny, when you think about it.

On Monday, during the court hearing in London, her lawyer not only told the judge that Finding Freedom was made up of fabrications by the authors, but also listed inaccuracies (such as the name of the camp in Botswana the lovebird stayed at). Some people have wondered why, if the duo did not cooperate with the authors, why they are not suing them for breach of privacy.

Let me play devil's advocate and assume that Omid Scobie made up large parts of the book, particularly the very private, intimate revelations. I think we can all agree that FF is a hagiography from start to finish and so it's obvious, in my opinion, that MM is not averse to having her privacy breached, as long as the breach results in flattering press. What upsets her - and triggers her impulse to sue - is anything which is negative or critical. What she doesn't seem to understand is that if an untrue and prejudicial statement of fact is made, she could sue for defamation - but reporting something which is true yet puts her in a negative light? Writing an opinion piece which is critical or biting? Sorry Megsy, that's not how the law works. You're a public figure, and there is absolutely nothing in law or in journalistic ethics that says that media are only allowed to write nice things about you.
@lavender Lady

I'm so glad you enjoyed the video of TH in court - it struck me as so appropriate -and such good antidote to what we've been discussing

The Crown v Sid James - it reminded me that if the either of the H$Ms end up in the dock on criminal charges, the case would be Regina (or Rex if HM has departed this life by then ) v HRH Prince Harry and Duchess of Sussex/Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor.

What a thought! Them on one side and Granny or King Charles III (if he keeps it as his regal name - probably safer to go for George VII) on the other.

For anyone who wants to get the taste of the TIME 100 out of their system, I can recommend it -

Hancock's Half Hour The Lawyer The Crown V James S3 Ep9
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ctwzs

Btw - I always preferred the radio `Hancock's Half Hour' to TV's `Hancock' but this one is a cracker!

...............................

@Magatha;

Thanks for the reminder about Cliveden - I'd forgotten that.

I wonder who recommended Cliveden? Was it another RF shade? Were they indicating that they saw her as another Christine Keeler?

We used to call them `good-time girls' then, if we were being polite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Keeler
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM,
The Crown v Sid James - it reminded me that if the either of the H$Ms end up in the dock on criminal charges, the case would be Regina (or Rex if HM has departed this life by then ) v HRH Prince Harry and Duchess of Sussex/Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor. What a thought! Them on one side and Granny or King Charles III (if he keeps it as his regal name - probably safer to go for George VII) on the other.
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Whoa! That's intense.
Meghan would love it though being she relishes family legal fights. Oh dear...

Thanks for the new link! I will watch it soon :)
Magatha Mistie said…

@LavendarLady

Sorry, my mistake.
Interesting comparisons. And lots of interesting thoughts as usual.

The whole purpose of the monarch is being a moral anchor for the nation, to unify, to encourage, to provide the link to history, traditions, national pride, to lead by example, to represent, to be above reproach. Without the moral aspect there is no role for monarchy in the modern life of a nation. It becomes just another business and nothing else.

Harry and Meghan have become a dangerous weight on the royal ship. Each misstep and each PR stunt add to that weight. Harry basically just disregards all protocol, tradition and rules and is allowed to get away with it. But the deadliest part is royal family ignoring the public opinion about his and Markle's behaviour.

Palace may declare it stopped representing the Harkles but they are connected to the Palace and to the monarchy, as well as the royal charities. They continue using titles, coats of arms, HRH and constantly emphasize their special status.

The Queen has gone past the moment where she should have cut all official titles and duties off the Harkles.

Personally I sort of warmed up to Charles as the next monarch but not any more. Harry will topple him.
LavenderLady said…
@Magatha,
No worries:) Thank you.

Extra props for your poems set to the beat of the Beatles. I'm a great fan of the REAL Fab Four :)
AnT said…
I agree with so many of these comments. My opinion only, esp after the disaster last night:

Harry reminds me of a spoiled, dumb but sly 14 year old who likes to cause trouble and is easily led by older troublemaking kids into doing greater and greater harm. The kid knows it is wrong, but has such a poor moral compass, low self esteem, and so little impulse control, he prefers the instant gratification of excitement he gets via causing problems and acting out to the cheers of his sour pals. He eggs houses, steals small items, scratches the car and lies about it, pointing fingers, blaming others. He pouts and rages if ever caught and grounded.

Soon, he is dropping boulders off busy highway overpasses to impress his morally bankrupt, bossy, taunting older playmates, who are actually grooming him to be their fall guy for some more heinous future crimes, step by step by step.

Last night was the biggest boulder drop yet.

He was possibly squirming because kids like this usually do their evil pranks in the dark, and run away? His jumpiness might also be because it is dawning on him that the world can see everything, even from the US, which is not Secret Faraway Land. Although SwampWoman has a good point about that squirming too.

It’s kind of like: Hey, kid, in the dirty gray shirt! We still see you kicking your grandma’s walker at your playmates’ behest. We see your hands on the rocks, we can imagine who your creepy pals are. We can practically compose your tired word salad. Funnily, you already had what the thug pals want. But they made you throw it away, likely out of envy and spite, to rope you down at their level as they rifle through your pockets and use your ID to get other stuff and draw naughty sidewalk cartoons about your mom for coins. Maybe users like users, though?

Anyway, for now, kid, you are stuck in with what seems a bad crowd, jeered at as you paddle in circles to try to regain what you peevishly threw away. (Does that prickle sometimes, in the back of your mind? You, who had all the good comic books once!) Throwing another rock? You did not choose well. PS: you are now far too old to be a kid throwing stuff at grandma; the need for a field of hair plugs should be a clue.
Hikari said…
Man, they both look terrible in their latest video project. Awful. Meg revisits the same brown shade as the infamous pit stain ensemble from their 'FU BRF!' appearance at Canada House for this latest 'FU BRF!' offering. The color is awful on her, but she doesn't get it. It would look stunning on Beatrice.

Beyond that, her hair's a flat mess and she seems high. Whatever she's on, it hasn't mellowed her out, because the anger is radiating off her in waves. The eyes are scary, and even when she's speaking, where's the smile? The angry aura started at the top, before the dog muffed his cue to run up to her with adoring kisses and wags. Reminds me of the scene in Chevy Chase's 'Funny Farm' when he goes 'Cue ... the deer!' He was trying to create a bucolic country scene for prospective buyers for his property. Most dogs are so tuned into their humans that they would bound up to them first before shooting off on a tangent to go sniff around. I'd say this dog spends as much time with his 'owners' as Archie does, based on the level of engagement (zero) with H and M. Why not have him on a lead sitting next to the bench if the aim was to include him? Meg could hold the dog and Harry could hold Archie . . what a lovely family photo opportunity!

That bench is so .. rustic-looking, it might have been there since the property was built. Surprised the Harkles didn't have a shiny new more grandiose-looking bench installed for their outdoor video appearances. In California they'd be able to do that nearly all the time except when there's a fire or earthquake on.

Harry should not have been part of this message. Markle may be tenuously connected to the Royal family, but she is still an American citizen. (Are you registered to vote in Santa Barbara County, yet Meg? The window is getting really short--I think you've only got two more weeks to get that done.) So her getting out the vote for an American election is not as inappropriate as Harry doing so. Beyond his Royal status, as a non-citizen here, he will never 'get to vote' here either, unless he goes through the process of naturalization--that requires a minimum of 7 years' residency in the U.S., and passing an exam on American history and Constitution that I hear is quite difficult.

We are seeing the unraveling now . . she was obviously super pi*ss*d about something.

Hikari said…
Don't know what the plan is in BP, or if there is one, but Harry seems to have zero intention of mending bridges with his family. I don't see the Duke & Duchess titles going away necessarily since that opens up a wrinkle with Parliament. I can't see any of the MPs adverse to stripping that off at this point, but the Queen probably refuses to take it that far. What Her Majesty *does* need to do is to make it clear that Haz and Mess no longer represent the Commonwealth Trust nor any of her Royal charities. The duo needs to have those removed so that there are no remaining 'work' ties they can claim to the UK. To expedite matters, perhaps BP needs to send official letters to each of these remaining patronages urging the organizations to remove H & M as patrons and erase any references of them from SM accounts or literature. When H and M fled for Freedom, the understanding was that they would continue on as 'private' patrons of their charities without the Royal imprimateur, but I think that nuance is too fine to make any difference. Perhaps the charities fear giving offence to HM if they appoint new patrons . . .so she should send out a letter through channels giving them her express permission to cut ties with the Harkles. It could be worded in such a way so as to give the Royal permission the robustness of a command. This would preclude future attempts by either of the Harkles to gain PR for themselves by recycling old appearances/photos and 'celebrating anniversaries' of back when they pretended to give a f*** about their patronages.

I know the Royal finances are in a muddle right now, but perhaps HM could see her way clear to distributing the Harkles' patronages amongst other younger royals--the York girls and the Tindalls might be able to take on one or two each in exchange for a small stipend for an appearances budget without being considered full-time working Royals. The National should go to Edward, as it always should have done; Sophie could take over the Association of Universities; the York girls could split Mayhew & Smartworks, and Mike and Zara could take on some of Harry's sporty patronages. I think that'd be a win-win for everyone. The organizations can still boast a Royal patron, but with the workload split up and divvied out, any expenses would be far lower than what Meg and Harry were claiming as 'working Royals'. Lady Louise is still at school, but in a few years she might be able to step in and help out. The Wessexes could also be tapped as replacements for CWT Pres. and VP, since they, especially Sophie, are already doing a great deal in the Commonwealth already. Perhaps ultimately these posts should go outside the Royal family to actual citizens of the Commonwealth, as selected by the Queen or her representative. Such persons would certainly care more about actively doing a good job than the current occupants.

With six months remaining until the end of the review period, I don't think HM can, or should, wait on making these changes. H and M have made it abundantly clear that they are not going to be playing by Granny's rules nor giving any f**ks about the UK or the Commonwealth. Harry is dead to his family and they may as well admit this painful truth.
LavenderLady said…
@AnT,
Re: your post September 23, 2020 at 6:08 PM
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Wow. Your latest brought this to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCEWmED4TIg&ab_channel=Dr.Phil

Just saw this episode yesterday! If he was my kid, I would have started the discipline very early in his life...
Just a clip but look for the whole episode if interested. Dr. Phil nails him.

BTW this kid reminded me in looks to a very young Prince Phillip but his behavior is more like your description of Harry! Sociopath in the making...yikes!
Another great DM comment: "John 3 v 16, Near Hull ..the forgotten city, United Kingdom, less than a minute ago

The only thing worth watching was the bench which remained silent throughout the whole video."
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampLady
If his wife was in on a Zoom call with his family, I would assume that she was making sure he didn't sneaky beg for a hostage rescue team.

So true. But he wouldn't have been able to fake contentment any more than he did in the TIME 100 video.

The Birthday Zoom story painted a portrait of a happy young father proudly showing off a clever young son to a family he misses despite his joy in a new life with the type of wife who'd bake a cake for him herself. If we weren't already skeptical, the TIME 100 video would have put that blissful story to bed.
AnT said…
@Hikari, from your elegant keyboard to the Queen’s ear, we can only hope. I wish you could send her a bound copy of your posts to peruse.

@LavanderLady, that YT kid clip is terrifying. But yes pretty much what I have been thinking. Age that kid up a couple of decades, and go ginger. Next, clone it and add a wig, Soho membership cards, some Russian accents with back hair, and a smattering of shady foundations, and I think we are here.

@Musty, that silent bench comment is brilliant. Poor Benchy. Old, small, weathered and tired, probably terrified it will be blamed for making the taping awkward with its hateful bullying splinters. We know where the stunt dog will be sent to pee from now on.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Puds
I am sure Megan really really wants to get in with Michelle Obama, but it's just not happening yet.
They almost seem to be in competition but Michelle has set everything up and Megan probably wants to take over, However, nearer voting day I expect they will share a plateform to get voters out.


I hadn't thought that Meghan would see herself in competition with a woman of Michelle Obama's stature . . . but now I'm facepalming because of course she would! She probably thinks they're two peas in a pod: two whip-smart American women of brilliance who are leaving an incomparable and indelible legacy in US politics. (Just reheating her own word salad there.)

Getting close to Election Day, it would look a bit petty of Michelle not to welcome Meghan into the club, so to speak. If a goal is truly important enough, then we can set aside our differences to work toward it together. And I'm sure Meghan is betting heavily on that.
LavenderLady said…
@AnT,
@LavanderLady, that YT kid clip is terrifying. But yes pretty much what I have been thinking. Age that kid up a couple of decades, and go ginger. Next, clone it and add a wig, Soho membership cards, some Russian accents with back hair, and a smattering of shady foundations, and I think we are here.
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Right on!! I'm devilishly delighted by this comment :D :D

When I first saw La Markle I thought 'she looks like Harry in drag'. She's the female, exotic version of himself! Same nose etc. She and he mirror each other in more ways than one...

But then they are Twin Flames(gag).
Natalier said…
Was reading on twitter and some interesting comments about highly possible reason(s) for Sherborne not working on the case:
1) He quit - he has info that she lied and he would not risk his reputation when this is
exposed. The following info from Theresa Longo blog seems to suggest this. "she (M) ran it
(People's article) by Royal PR CJ (Christian Jones) at the time, he KNEW, didn’t approve: it
violated Royal Protocol in every sense of the word. She was delivered press instruction to
respect RF protocol & concierges by not blindsiding them — ignored all..."
2) She has problems paying his retainer fees. Read that his rates are $1K/hr. She has complained
about the high lawyer costs. Sherborne is a senior counsel while her new barrister is a
junior counsel. Her new barrister mistakenly released the name of one of her 5 friends -
hence to say that she was more satisfied with his work doesn't seem to ring true. He did
however, manage to keep the names of those friends from being released publicly.
3) He quit - he knew it was a lost case and wanted her to settle. However:
i) she could not afford to settle as she would prob end up paying for the defendant's lawyers
fees too.
ii) she is making the court case into a documentary - her the victim of the big, bad and evil
bully ie the British press.
Sherborne wanted no part in this.
Maneki Neko said…
So some details in Finding Freedom were inaccurate. No one cares whether the duo did or didn't go to Makgadikgadi Pans national park in Botswana or what they drank on their first date. What about what the book says about the BRF, is this true and accurate? Or is MM panicking and backpedalling in order not to antagonise the in-laws further?
LavenderLady said…
@Enbre...,
Getting close to Election Day, it would look a bit petty of Michelle not to welcome Meghan into the club, so to speak. If a goal is truly important enough, then we can set aside our differences to work toward it together. And I'm sure Meghan is betting heavily on that.
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Excellent point!
@Fairy Crocodile:

But the deadliest part is royal family ignoring the public opinion about his and Markle's behaviour.

How very true.

This takes me back to Diana's death week. The RF initially, IIRC, made no moves about arranging a funeral. To be fair, normally it would be the blood family's responsibility but if there was a mention of the Spencers doing anything I didn't see or hear the report.

We were told that Charles had insisted that there had to be action from the RF, in case El Fayed stepped in. Allegedly he said something to his mother like `Do you want to see her brought home in a Harrod's van?'

He probably pointed out that Diana was, after all, the mother of a future king.

Sadly, I can't see action coming from him now.

I also believe that PM Blair stressed how vital it was to be seen to be doing something, as the mood on the street was decidedly ugly at that time. Hence the speech which soothed things just about enough.

Whether Boris would be able, or even willing, to raise the matter in the Tuesday audience I don't know - perhaps doing it in terms of concern about Anglo-American relationships might not cause too much offence. He's already got the double whammy of the disease and sour relations with the EU on his plate as it is.

We may be as angry as hell about their behaviour but I'm not sure how many of our fellow citizens give it much thought - possibly too taken up with their own lives, afraid of being labelled racist, of catching the virus or livid that their socialising is being restricted. I doubt if they're any more bothered about Anglo American relationships then the future of our fishing industry.

I just wish that grounds could be found for pulling Harry out from the US by means of extradition (simultaneously declaring her Persona Non Grata in the UK), or of having him pushed out by the US declaring him Persona Non Grata there.

Some hope.

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@Hikari:
I agree - someone of great authority in the UK needs to put their foot down with a firm hand, so to speak. Are they blind to what's going on?

I wonder what William says to Pa and Granny in private? Is Catherine's M&S dress a sign of solidarity with the people and their financial difficulties and/or an indication that the rate at which Charles's money is being frittered away by the Horrible Hairies is giving them concern about their future prospects?

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@An T:

A brilliant expressed parallel!
SwampWoman said…
Puds said...
Just seen in the DM. Wedding preacher Micheal Curry felt the presence of slaves as H&M exchanged vows.
He welcomed the Queen allowing a slave song and said something magical about a desendant of slaves probably captured by British slave traders now before her Majesty.

Turns out he is flogging a book.


Is there anybody connected to those two that is not an opportunistic grifter?
That video was atrocious in look, style, delivery, and lacked any character or emotion. The only emotion I saw was boredom (Meghan looking up to the sky), anger when they each tried to _press_a_point and fiddling/insecurity and self-doubt (Harry licking his teeth, moving his wedding ring) and most telling is the closed and distant body language. Hands clasped and inward posture closed off. They both served a lot of misdirected Attitude, which came off as condescending and holier-than-thou. I think Meghan seriously forgot that Americans don't respond well to controlling/ Monarchy figureheads. Funny that the Queen and her crew do not come off as condescending know-it-alls. Why does Meghan think this is the way of the family? It's anyone's guess.

Instead of clear direction with a purpose around their videos, they are haphazard crazy people spewing sentences that don't make sense. "You have a right to be heard, and more rights, that make you happier, which are rights." (note she didn't say that, but it's how she talks)

Sometimes I think she is being the character they created for her in The Windsors. When I watched the video, I was reminded of that show and her banana speech on the podium when she 'ate avocados and did yoga' to prep. It was hilarious then, and it's hilarious to see Meghan morphing into the show character. It's also plainly bizarre.

From my own conclusions, this looks like a gig they DID NOT want to do. Someone forced these two to make an appearance (Marc or Sunshine) and I wonder what kind of deal forced them into this lol.

If they think that sucked (being forced to do things by the people holding the purse strings) then we are all right, they won't last another 2 years in corporate capitalist America where everyone has a boss, and they aren't the Queen giving chance after chance. They are cutthroat and you better prove your value or you're toast.

Meghan wore brown. Last time she wore Brown she left the BRF. She wasn't touching Harry. She doesn't need him anymore and thinks her wooing billionaires (Salesfoce, and Netflix) is working. He's collateral damage. I think brown is her subconscious uncoupling from Harry. She's very apparent when she's put out there which is why she tries to avoid any public video/interview of herself. She can't hid who she is.

Harry also looked like a total idiot for not knowing he could vote in the UK. Instead, he angrily is pitching a false narrative as if he was some victim and no one told him his whole life he could vote. OK dude? Once again, Harry is 36 with his own family. These are his complaints?

Talk about out of touch, and again, no one cares that a rich Prince has been 'hard done' by, by not educating himself and partying in Vegas.

HappyDays said…
Look at the full-length photo next to Piers’ photo in his commentary about the Queen needs to remove all titles from Harry and Meghan on the DM site today.

Look at the body language. I noticed it last night in their video segment of the TIME 100 program. No hand holding, no physical contact of any kind. Meghan is leaning toward Harry and he is leaning away from her.

Unusual for this couple, especially for Meghan, who usually has her paw on Harry in some fashion in situations like this.
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Also, with who Meghan is as a person think about this for a second:

She has some loser Prince of a husband who has never achieved anything. I know a going theory here is that she ill move on and attempt to land a billionaire. She's now around these billionaires. One just hired her (netflix) and another plugged them on Twitter for his company (Time/ Marc/ Salesforce). Being how she is someone who uses, abuses, and moves on, who also has an inflated sense of entitlement and self-worth is it safe to say she thinks she can now level up and attempt to bag those guys?

She always does it before she ends her current relationship. I think she's moving on in her head to Mr. Rich activist, and Mr. Rich Media Mogul.

Those guys are smart though, which will make this more difficult for her.

Thoughts?
I think Meghan was distant from Harry because she knew Marc the billionaire would be watching. She's crazy and I think she's also trying to look 'available'.
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SwampWoman said…
I would find it very sad if Harry is destroying his place in the family for his wife who may be searching for her next meal ticket even as we speak, albeit in a totally strong, independent and woke woman fashion.
Maneki Neko said…
@WBBM


We may be as angry as hell about their behaviour but I'm not sure how many of our fellow citizens give it much thought - possibly too taken up with their own lives, afraid of being labelled racist, of catching the virus or livid that their socialising is being restricted. (my bold)
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Quite. Re "afraid of being labelled racist", however, we (Brits) have already been labelled as such, as has the Royal Family, so at this stage I don't think it would make much difference. I'm afraid the too facile 'racist' label just doesn't work any more where MM is concerned - the excuse is now well worn and I don't think anybody believes it (apart from her sugars).

I do think our fellow citizens are angry - you only have to look at the comments in the DM - sadly, there isn't much we can do. The ball is in Charles/the Queen's court...
Maneki Neko sadi:

`So some details in Finding Freedom were inaccurate. No one cares whether the duo did or didn't go to Makgadikgadi Pans national park in Botswana'

I notice she didn't complain about being embarrassed by the sheer impertinence and very bad form of reporting that she had relieved herself al fresco, like an animal marking its territory.

No, she only pointed out that they had got the location wrong.

Why draw attention to the act in the first place? It's a given that sometimes one has to answer nature's call in the wilds like that - why make an issue of it?

Or was it a complaint that their entourage lacked:

a) `native bearers' (an imperial term, used advisedly, given her evident lack of regard for local people) carrying a ducal Portaloo?

b) attendants carrying a royal `commode', in use until at least the Georgian era? (it was a form of stool, hence `being at stool' and finally the solid dropped in it!)

c) a little man, like the coach driver in a TV film about coach trips in the 1950s, who used to erect a little tent, complete with potty, beside the road for the ladies' use, emptying the pot after each customer?

or d) that there were no flushing WC's along their rout, built especially for her Royal Progress?

Or was she getting off on telling everyone about spreading her pheromones and that Harry liked it?


Gosh, I'm getting bitter...
Maneki Neko said…
"Buckingham Palace has washed its hands of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after they 'told Americans to vote out Trump'.

A spokesman said it refused to comment on 'not a working member of the Royal Family' in a stinging response to the couple.

It comes after Royal insiders said the Duke and Duchess of Sussex 'crossed a line' by speaking out about the US election on November 3." (DM).

Can we expect some strong action soon?
`It gets a bit wonky at times...'.

I thought this a little unnecessary - there's something to be said for humour, even undergraduate, weak or black humour, as a way of keeping our spirits up, at times like these.
Yes, I too was thinking she might be into `Disregard and Dispose' mode.

Harry fiddling with his wedding ring suggests he's beginning to get an inkling that this marriage may not be what he wants.

It's not as if he's putting on weight and checking the size before it has to be cut off his finger.
Hikari said…
AnT,

Thanks for the props. I have one in return for you. I think you are new here, so may not know that I have a custom of awarding especially brilliant/funny/pithy comments a virtual Starbucks Latte, and I am happy to designate you today's winner for this:

Poor Benchy. Old, small, weathered and tired, probably terrified it will be blamed for making the taping awkward with its hateful bullying splinters. We know where the stunt dog will be sent to pee from now on.

Enjoy!


I must be losing my mind (the Markle Effect) but I can't find a comment I just read. To the poster who said that Meg wore the same shade of brown in this latest interview because Brown is her 'Announcement of Leaving the Royal Family' color and she wore it intentionally because she's getting ready to bolt . . kudos and a virtual latte to you too. I had noted the very similar color scheme but it didn't dawn on me that that ugly top means Harry is about to get dumped, possibly.

Well, she has to stay married to him until at least the resolution of her court case if she expects Charles to cover the legal fees--UNLESS . . what if the thundrous piss*d face and the brown shirt and the aggressive body language is because she has only recently gotten the word that Charles refuses to pay anything more toward that or other? Someone has put their finger to the wind and informed the Prince of Wales that Meg is going to lose this judgement and it's going to be millions owing to the DM. Let's all put on our wishing hats and wish that Chas finally grew a pair and told Tungsten that she can surely meet her own legal obligations out of her $100 million dollar Netflix deal. If she can't scrape it together, she'll have to sell Mudslide Towers, oh my.

We can dream.
Miggy said…
New HarryMarkle

TIME, Tatler, And ‘The Letter’ Lawsuit ~ It’s time to call time on the House of Sussex
@Maneki Neko

I was thinking more of our friends' view of us as individuals. I used consider myself as a centrist, floating, voter but at heart I'm a really a Tory, albeit still centrist.

Nevertheless, I have to be careful what I say to one or two dedicated socialists in my friendship group.
AnT said…
Could MM snag a mark with more money?

I actually asked a longtime business client this question when they scuppered off to the mansion in Canada for their holiday season break, and everyone here was suggesting LA was her ultimate goal. The client I asked is a multimillionaire himself, connected Old Etonian, and a pretty sharply funny man as well. He has been around, He said she might be able to bag:

* young inherited money/title without direction in life (check)
* young will make okay money someday per career choice (check)
* young from some family money but busy making a career and too busy to notice the grift (check)
* middle aged bored millionaire creator of a plastic pipe fitting, new stronger tent pole, shoes etc
* worn out coked millionaire losing funds, goals and his senses

He said a mega millionaire or billionaire, unless senile or in nefarious need of a public sherpa, wouldn’t touch her. They need wives who can create connection smoothly, not rip valuable connections apart. Partners who will prove they can stop the nonsense and get in lime and live in strategy, not shred strategy. Even beards have to be smarter and more skillful. No one at that level has time to wed a loose goose, or one with a trigger temper or control issues. She might get a year or two of vacations, at best, as a test, then a quick NDA goodbye via staff.

He said at this point, she has placed so much mess on the table, she’d better hang on to Harry for dear life. That was in December.

Hikari said…
I know which way the wind blows in here for the most part, but who thinks it plausible that Meg would be able to attract and keep the interest of some media billionaire long enough to make him Mr. Markle #4?

I think she has revealed far too much of herself for that. The vulnerable, waifish Big Eyes act she used to snare Trevor, Cory and then Harry is now obsolete. Meg is staring down the barrel of 40 (if it isn't actually 45) and is dragging more baggage behind her than Marley's Ghost. Again here she shot herself in both of her huge feet by bailing so prematurely on the BRF. Had she been able to bide her time and play the Royal game for 5 years or so, she could have retained enough mystique to be attractive to a very wealthy civilian man. She's too old now and way too exposed. The next guy who takes her on would face down 'There goes X--the fourth husband of a gold-digger who cr*-ps in the woods, for whom British Royalty was not enough--poor sucker!'

The only way she's going to snag a billionaire after these most recent performances of hers is if he is blind, half deaf and has incipient dementia. Even if she can land some octogenarian billionaire, let's hope he's got fantastic attorneys and an ironclad prenup.
AnT said…
@Hikari, Wow, thank you for the latte award! I am honored! 😊

Yah, I am a new poster albeit have been reading this blog for a few months with great pleasure. A lurker finally daring to join in, after the jolt of that awful TIME video clip. I could not believe what I was seeing.

Seriously, if we could get the Queen to just read this blog..... as of today I am officially shaking my head.
Hikari said…
@AnT,

Great minds with the same thought! No wealthy man with his senses intact would go for Meg at this point. She's revealed far too much about herself.
AnT said…
@Hikari, agreed!. I am howling over your savvy “ There goes x — the fourth husband of a gold digger who cr*ps in the woods” sort of scenario. Dead on.

I tried to think of any well off soft-touch client or friend I know who might fall for such a grifter game and the only one has a fierce family poised around him. Forget hot thrown tea or chewy caramel Sounds of sadness. This family would have had her at the bottom of the Hudson thirty minutes after the engagement interview.

I can't see how they can go on like this without being descended on by the Crown. Please G*d it happens soon.
Maneki Neko said…
Seen in the DM

President Donald Trump's former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski teed off on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after they recorded a video plug urging Americans to register to vote and Harry urged Americans to 'reject hate speech.'

'They made Britain great again by leaving, I hope they do the same for us,' Lewandowski, now a senior 2020 advisor to the Trump campaign, told DailyMail.com Wednesday, in comments after Harry and Meghan's comments in a Time 100 video message made waves on both sides of the Atlantic.

(my bold)
Hikari said…
Ant,

after the jolt of that awful TIME video clip. I could not believe what I was seeing

I've just watched it three more times, and I still can't believe it. Harry looks remarkably calm for a man sitting next to a live grenade poised to go off, but there are micro-signs of anxiety. The bench is small, but she's got him shoved down on his end the furthest he can go, forcing him to drape part of his body over the armrest. There is a visible gap of several inches between their bodies. Meg keeps her hands firmly clasped over her knee throughout. Just a few months ago, she'd have had both hands plastered firmly on his. At least her hands aren't flapping wildly, so that's something.

I watched the dog again . . he enters stage right and pauses briefly, glancing in their direction--What are those weird humans doing now? . . Nothing to do with me; I'm going to go smell these bushes.

Animals and small children *know* when someone is bad. We've been watching Meg for almost three years now and have yet to see a dog or a small child display any comfort in her presence. No--they actively avoid her.

If only Harry were half as intelligent as a dog, he would have saved himself so much grief. His grief is only just starting. For as bad as he's looked these last 2.5 years, it's only going to get more painful.
Maneki Neko said…
@WBBM

Nevertheless, I have to be careful what I say to one or two dedicated socialists in my friendship group.

You and me both, WBMM. And not just friends and acquaintances, but offsprings too...
AnT said…
@WBBM, re the parallel...it kept coming to mind the last couple of weeks, and I kept thinking it was possibly over the top. But somehow last night sealed it for me.

I do not know how the royal family can pull him out now. One has to wonder if they are surprised at his extreme disregard — or based on what they know intimately about him, was this the expected but long-dreaded misstep? I don’t excuse his antics at all. He is an adult at least on paper....but I do think he isn’t bright and is now deeply enmeshed with stronger, more ruthless, more conniving persons or groups than he ever encountered.

He thought the Gray Men were a bossy pain in the pants? Just wait. He already looks like a weakened hooked trout. They will drag and flip the breath out of him now. They have his title and some usable footage. He is compromised, and maybe the BP knows it, and the “not our problem” statement today is the big final bolt sliding into the lock of the last open door. They need to remove titles, and all funding, and send back all legal bills too.

My preference would be that they send the RAF with Anne, Sophie and Mike T to remove him for deprogramming while capturing iPhone videos of M trying to tie the baby Farchie doll to her arm or neck again, and a plastic arm comes loose, but, I do like my amusements.
Unknown said…
The palace issued a denial of comment claiming the Prince is not a working member of the Royal family, therefor everything he says is in a personal capacity.

That doesn't make sense. So, the Palace is in on it? Once again letting Harry do whatever he wants without repercussions?

He's not speaking in a personal capacity, he still holds HRH as a senior member of the RF.

They are taking everyone for fools. Since he is still HRH several costs still fall on the British taxpayer, primarily all his their travel, and security.
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Hikari said...
Just a few months ago, she'd have had both hands plastered firmly on his. At least her hands aren't flapping wildly, so that's something.

Correct but for only, that Megsy/Vampire+/Narc was skilled enough to hold his two hands close to her. M love bombed Prince as he (H) never got from comparable demure Chelsey and Cressida/ So Harry has caved long term in Mudslide-Ville via Stockholm Syndrome/
AnT said…
@Hikari, I actually missed quite how shoved over he was and based on your comment, just watched part of the clip again. Wow.

I am speechless. He has now spent spent three years being shoved aside, pushed past, elbowed, left in the dust, talked over, mocked, and butted out of frame. And now even hip-checked across this rickety mini bench in a short filming session. The Markle needs her space! Or did he automatically slide away from her, sensing her hot rage, as narc victims learn to do? She seemed already angry about something, certainly, versus trying to portray an impassioned activist. Were her pants the wrong size? Had he forgotten the shoes he was supposed to merch? Did the tiara from Claire’s break when Harry sat on it? Did she find out right before taping that there was no fee for appearing? Did she have to pay for water and lunch?

Is all this is being added to a narcissist studies seminar syllabus somewhere? I hope so.
Unknown said…
Don't they also represent the Queen as President and VP of the Commonwealth, as well as their multiple patronages???

BP's statement is incorrect and a distraction. There are real issues there they arre purposefully sweeping under the rug. Obviously, MPs will start calling for an end to the titles.
none said…
@Unknown

I agree with your entire post about Harry. Either the BRF ends this or they support it. There's really no other way to look at it.
lizzie said…
@Unknown asked:

"Don't they also represent the Queen as President and VP of the Commonwealth, as well as their multiple patronages???"

Not necessarily but it looks that way.

They did represent the Queen when Harry was Youth Ambassador to the Commonwealth. But the Queen's Commonwealth Trust is independent of the monarchy. From https://www.queenscommonwealthtrust.org/about/

"Disclaimer: The Queen’s Commonwealth Trust (QCT) is an independent organisation. Views expressed on the QCT website do not represent views of the Royal Family or the Royal Household. The QCT website offers a free and open forum where young people can share insights, expertise, advice and inspiration and come together to discuss issues that matter to them. The content and discussions shared by QCT are only intended to reflect the perspectives of those engaging with the platform."

And their other patronages I thought were being continued as individual work, not as the TQ's reps, just as other non-working royals have patronages (like the York sisters.)

I agree it looks bad though, particularly the QCT and the National Theater.
AnT said…
@Uknown said “BP’s statement is incorrect and a distraction.”

I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.

As I said earlier, I saw it as the final deadbolt, “kiss our ermine a**es” statement in tone, the way a company will disavow a former director caught running through the city center naked. No longer our problem!

But your comment has me thinking. Another mumbled pat statement from the BP playbook as they put their fingers in their ears, or assure each other that no one will ever know about the money they still wire to these arrogant air pockets? Telling each other that the people have more to worry now about than little silly Feeble and his grumpy pushy showgirl?

Hmm. You may be right, unfortunately.

But I like to think William, Anne and Sophie talk to each other about The Problem, and are biding their time. If The Queen and Charles won’t face it, I think William will, and I think George and Charlotte will be waiting at the far end of the field of the future with a royal banishment edict and a unicorn-printed cricket bat. The despicable duo are shouting, jumping, throwing gravel.....but they won’t escape the karmic nets of time after this.
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AnT said…
Alert! Omid posted on his twitter feed a blurb from Bazaar.com in which a “source close to the Sussexes” (yawp) tells Bazaar that Harry’s statement about November (voting) had nothing to do with Amy political party blah blah blah blah wheeze cough.

These two and Rachel with the hotmail are swimming in the warm jellied waters of delusion if they think we will buy that.

I will bet they forwarded the super realistic Bazaar blurb to “Pa” with a request for 500,000 extra smackers, an ultrasound of twins they found on the Internet, and an angry demand for two more royal guards who can also cook organic pizzas.
AnT said…
^^^^^ should say any political party, not “Amy” political party, sorry!

Question — does this mean they can more easily remove the National Theatre patronage? Theatre is in trouble with all the lockdowns and needs real help.
lizzie said…
@AnT asked:

"does this mean they can more easily remove the National Theatre patronage? Theatre is in trouble with all the lockdowns and needs real help."

Good question. I have no idea. But what I'd consider doing if I were TQ is appoint Edward as the "royal patron." While M was initially appointed as the royal patron (and as @Wullie pointed out, took over the patronage directly from TQ), it was my understanding that M is just a patron now. So they are short a royal. Of course, I'm not sure any patron can make a real difference re: the difficulties caused by COVID. But having a patron in the same country would make sense!
Very amazing commentary yesterday and today, folks.


"I am trying to work out if Megan is morphing into Omid or Omid is morphing into Megan, or are they both morphing into Jessica. Weird."

Between you and AnT, I've been having a great bit of laughter, to which my husband asks what's up and I restate it out loud clasping my face and laughing harder.

The reason it's so funny? It's all so true.
Maneki Neko said…
@Unknown

That doesn't make sense. So, the Palace is in on it? (abt Harry talking about voting).
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I don't see it that way at all. The BRF have washed their hands of it and do not want to be associated with Harry's statement. They actually need to say it. It doesn't mean they're colluding with him/condoning his actions.

The Telegraph states:

A spokesman for Buckingham Palace said they would not comment on the Duke's words.

But, in a striking statement distancing the palace from the Sussexes, he added: "The Duke is not a working member of the Royal Family and any comments he makes are made in a personal capacity."

It is the first time the palace has been compelled to make a significant public intervention relating to the Duke’s decisions since his move to Los Angeles.


As AnT said, William, Anne et al. are probably talking about it and binding their time.
AnT said…
“I I am not a fan of hers, and, I think this is known, I wish a lot of luck to Harry, he’s going to need it” — President Trump just now, in a live press conference when asked about their election comments!

Haha my cousin just texted me with this tidbit! She assures me the words are accurate. Oh my God, what a rich 24 hours.
Weekittylass said…
Trump was just asked at his presser what he thought about The Gruesome Twosome urging people to vote for Biden. Trump responded that he was not a fan of hers and he wished Harry luck, a lot of luck because he was going to need it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Request for citizenship.....DENIED! Interference by a foreign national in a US election. That case can be made. Among other issues.
Maneki Neko said…
@AnT

Ha ha, Trump wishes a lot of luck to Harry! It's not "he's going to need it", though, but "he needs it". I posted earlier (9.48 pm) about Corey Lewandowski's, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, comment: 'They made Britain great again by leaving, I hope they do the same for us'. Do you feel the love, Meg?
none said…
@Ant

I just found it on Youtube and WOW! that's exactly what he said.
Longview said…


Disappointed Trump stooped to referring to her in his press conference. And former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.
That's how MM gets ahead. She is a nobody, but she does something outrageous (having Harry weigh in to the USA election) and suddenly the real movers and shakers are mentioning her in their press conferences and making statements to the press about her. Bingo, she is now a player in US political circles.
You can bet she is over the moon that Trump and Lewandowski have both referred to her, in her tiny mind that now means she is an important person, with status equal to them.
Can't people see that the best way to defeat MM is to ignore her? Give her the prominence she deserves, which is zero.
none said…
@Longview

Trump only referred to her at the press briefing because a reporter asked for his thoughts about their statement. He never said her name but did say Harry's. I do agree about ignoring her. Narcs do not like to be ignored.
Finding Freedom was supposed to garner public sympathy and support for the Harkles but it has backfired spectacularly. Not only do most people see it as whiny and whingeing from two over-privileged spoiled brats, now the DoM's lawyers intend to use it against MM in her vanity court case.

Over a year ago, BG had an item that said MM was keeping a diary of her life in the BRF (apparently the BRF knew about it and made sure to keep their distance from her as much as possible). Who wants to bet that MM gave Scobie a copy of that diary for his book?
In MM's book, any attention is good, be it favourable or not. Pathetic.

I'm interested in how many people contribute to Nutty's blog, to get an idea of how many pairs of eyes and ears are keeping tabs on the H$Ms, so I've just ploughed through this thread counting the number of different user names.

If I added up right, it's 66, plus Nutty herself, spread around the world, a fair number in fact, plus those who read but don't comment.

I've joked before about `citizen intelligence gathering' before, drawing an analogy with `citizen science'. Seriously though, I hope that at least some influential people who are on the side of stability and established tradition are reading what we write and are taking notice, as opposed to those supporting the `Dark Forces' of chaos and revolution.
From Wally Twitter;

@yankeewally2

Meghan Markle is suing the Associated Press aka Mail on Sunday. court date has been set for 11th January 2021. bring it on! yippee


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I'll note it on the calendar!
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AnT said…
@Weekittylass and @Maneki Neko. — thanks for the clarification on the wording!

Do you think the potential narc high at being mentioned is thwarted by being referred at only as a” her” instead of by her name, and no use of precious titles?

Anyway I am laughing at his pointed sympathy for Harry, not that Harry deserves any for bringing the Her upon the world. Haha so true, Weekittylass.... good luck chasing that green card and filing taxes, kids!

Maybe he should have extended sympathy to the Queen and Britain, too.

Corey L actually said that? The choice snark is flowing now!
Jdubya said…
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-trump-holds-white-house-news-conference-9

President Trumps news conference - Harry & Meghan mentioned at approx 12:20. LOL She is probably thrilled to even hear him mention her name. "I'm not a fan of her's" while shaking his head. "I wish a lot of luck to Harry, he's gonna need it"
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True or not?

Daily Express

Title row rages


Meghan Markle and Harry ordered to renounce royal titles before further damage to Queen

MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry have been told they must immediately renounce their royal titles to prevent causing further damage to the Queen's reputation.

By EMILY FERGUSON
PUBLISHED: 14:18, Wed, Sep 23, 2020 | UPDATED: 14:57, Wed, Sep 23, 2020
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AnT said…
@WBBM — What do you think? BP testing the reaction via having Express quote Wootton and others? The Express sensing the sentiments of the crowd and deciding to fan the flames?
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Midge said…
@AnT
It has indeed been a rich 24 hours!
I left home this morning for two appointments and returned to a hundred or more posts of thoughtful articles, parodies, poems, and interesting comments. Think I need to re-read a lot of it - it's hard to work and keep up with you all. Made my day.
AnT said…
@WB, I think It might just be the Express doing for it clicks and audience, smelling blood in the air after last night, perhaps. No idea what it would take at this point to nudge BP to action. Unless something is underway that we don’t know about yet. Maybe the Queen is just determined to stick to the one year review schedule, as others have speculated.
AnT said…
@Midge, it has been such a crazy day.. I was way too Post-y for a newbie, but it was such rich turf and I had a long boring workday waiting for three huge files to download so I had unexpected time to babble away. Everyone has been so nice, but I need to retreat to silence to catch up too.
Midge said…
@AnT
Never apologize for posting- the time to say something is now- hesitate and you miss your window of opportunity. I should know - I do it all the time!
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I guess I'll think about the latest news tomorrow, I'll only get 4 hours kip, if I'm lucky. Talk to you then.
AnT said…
@Midge, good point. I read this blog almost daily for months, but never posted until last night because everyone was saying it all so well and I was having a great time just reading it all.

Had I not randomly caught the interview on tv last night and suddenly decided to share what I saw because it was so bad and I was so shocked, I am sure I would never have started commenting. But I still need to shut up and catch up! There were so many great posts today from everyone that I want to reread!
Meowwww said…
Ol’ Megs is probably cackling in glee, rubbing her witchy fingers together about Trump (even if he was asked by a DM reporter).
It will probably spur her to run for political office. After all, she knows what it’s like to be voiceless.
My past experiences with my narc ex lead me to believe that she doesn’t care that he didn’t say her name. Shoot, she probably paid the DM reporter to ask the question (I didn’t even know DM reporters would be at a US presidential press conference.).
Jdubya said…
OT but a CDAN Blind that everyone is guessing PA/Pippa'S Father-in-law

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2020
Blind Item #7
This web just keeps getting larger. Apparently the father-in-law of the almost royal not only sexually assaulted the underage girl who has come forward, but also had girls sent to him by the French born model procurer/sexual assaulter/business partner of the billionaire pedophile after he was introduced to the procurer by the pedophile royal. That means the pedophile royal probably also was provided underage girls by the model procurer.
Express.co.uk says the queen must give up her title.

“Queen told you renounce royal title immediately as “writing on the wall” over monarchy demise.

Doubt it.
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HappyDays said…
I am gobsmacked. Meghan must be paying Sunshine Sachs big big money to place her and/or Harry to place them anywhere possible.
There is a talent competition show here in the US called America’s Got Talent which is similar to the other “Got Talent” shows in other countries.

Tonight is the season finale when the winner is announced from 10 finalist acts, which included dancers, gymnasts, a poet, singers and other acts.

There were several guest stars, such singers Usher, Blake Shelton, and Marvin Winans, who each sang with the vocal contestants.

One of the contestants, Archie Williams, age 57, has a very interesting background story. He was convicted of a crime he did not commit when he was 22 years old. He spent 37 years in prison and was finally cleared of the crime and released in 2019. He is now 57 years old.

On tonight’s two-hour finale show, Archie sang a duet with Marvin Winans, a gospel music star here in the US.

Then the show host Terry Crews told Archie there was a special fan who had a message for him, and I was stunned when he introduced a video message from none other than Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, who told Archie they have been watching him and were cheering for him, and it wasn’t just because they liked the name Archie. It was about a 30-second video.

It is not as if this was one of a group of celebrity video encouragement messages inserted into the show for each of the 10 finalists. No, there was just this single message from Meghan just plopped into the midst of this show, which means it was not part of the original script/plan for the show. And it’s not as if she has been working to clear people wrongly convicted and incarcerated by working with groups such as the Innocence Project. She just popped up in the show much like she and Harry popped up in the TIME 100 show, as they weren’t on the list.

I think this was very awkward and knowing how carefully calculated everything is in Meghan’s life, I was just stunned to see her jaw flapping away in this incredibly contrived placement.

I’m not even sure Mr. Williams knew who she was and why out-of-the-blue she was congratulating him via video.

She could have been like many others in the public and written him a letter or social media message of support, because the contestants receive these messages from fans of the show.

It bothers me that Meghan was using this talented gentleman, who lost 37 years of his life to a crime he did not commit, as a prop for her to virtue signal and build her personal brand as a humanitarian and social activist.

I’m surprised she didn’t shoehorn a message about the upcoming election to tell Mr. Williams to vote.

Meghan is beyond disgusting in her need for attention and ability to use others (and on this case, the person being used was likely not asked ahead of it) to attempt to enhance her public image.
emeraldcity said…
Hikari said...

...I don't see the Duke & Duchess titles going away necessarily since that opens up a wrinkle with Parliament. I can't see any of the MPs averse to stripping that off at this point, but the Queen probably refuses to take it that far.

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For regular aristocratic folk that would be true, however and a very big however for Harry is that the Monarch has sole control over all titles and styles for any HRH. And that includes the style of Prince. The style ‘prince’ has been removed previously from a 9th in line.

The Royals had that statute drafted so that an anti-monarchist parliament could not remove the titles or styles from members of the RF on a political whim.

So Harry HRH can have any or all of his titles removed by the Queen by the simple drafting of some new ‘Letters Patent’, parliament don’t get an official say in Harry’s titles at all (many UK MPs don’t seem to know this), but they could quietly petition the Queen via members of the Privy Council to prevail upon her to remove Harry’s titles . HRH would be the last to go in that scenario, as the removal of the other titles by the Queen depends on Harry being an HRH.

Harry would still maintain his position in the line of succession as only he can give that up and only for himself, it would not include Archie. Archie would then move up a slot and when he is 18 years old he has the right give up his place in line or not as he chooses.
HappyDays said…
@Wullie’s Bucket: Just saw your comment. Duh. I should have looked before posting mine, but apparently you and I are on the same wavelength as far as Meghan spending buckets of cash with Sunshine Sachs.

I was in my kitchen, where I have a small television and was more listening than watching the AGT show as I was working. Still amazed that Meghan is trying to show up everywhere. I’m not even sure if the man she was congratulating knows who she is, but it likely made no difference to her. She just wanted her face on the finale of a widely-watched show.
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I’ve been trying to scroll through the comments to see if either have been posted .....

So more money for the Queen (when the country’s on its knees financially) and The Duo latest furore. I have no words, If the palace just rolls over and now doesn’t act over The Duo’s latest shenanigans and the Queen accepts more money off the British tax payer, then they all deserve to go. :o(


A preachy message to infuriate the Palace: Should anyone still cling to the idea that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle might be torn between the old world and the new, then just look at their video address about the US election, writes ROBERT HARDMAN...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8765819/A-preachy-message-infuriate-Palace-ROBERT-HARDMAN-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html

The Queen is to get a bailout from the taxpayer after her land and property investments plummeted due to coronavirus pandemic...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8766073/The-Queen-bailout-taxpayer-land-property-investments-plummeted.html

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