While Duchess Meghan clearly has an interest in getting back into show business - Prince Harry was even heard promoting her voiceover talents to Disney chairman Bob Iger - show business seems to have much less interest in Meghan.
Although various blind items have suggested that she is setting up meetings to discuss projects with various production houses, only one US-based project has been definitively announced: Prince Harry's documentary series about "mental health" in co-operation with Oprah Winfrey for the new Apple+ network.
(While Harry is the co-creator co-executive producer, it seems inevitable that Meg will play a role in the production and make one if not several appearances.)
What does Prince Harry have to teach us about mental health?
Willam explains how his patronages the London Air Ambulance and Child Bereavement UK will be working together in two areas: one, teaching the Air Ambulance staff how to talk sensitively to family members of an child killed or severely injured in an incident, and secondly to help the Air Ambulance members themselves deal with the extreme stress of a job where they encounter devastating tragedies.
In the video, he speaks about his own struggles coping with bereavements when working for the Air Ambulance. "Having worked at the scene of traumatic incidents involving children, it was impossible for me not to take on board the enormous sadness and make the connection between the distressing events I had witnessed and my own family."
This sounds like a useful project that will help the people of Britain, exactly the sort of thing that a Royal patron of a charity should be doing.
So, what's Harry up to?
He also has an obvious angle in his association with military charities. Sadly, current and former service members have an extremely high rate of suicide, perhaps because of PTSD, perhaps because of their access to weapons. This would be a useful topic of a documentary.
So would addiction. Harry has already been to rehab once as a teenager on Prince Charles' orders, supposedly because Harry was using marijuana. His longtime cocaine use appears to be an open secret, and he also reportedly drinks heavily.
There may be more substances in play, and Harry's rumpled appearance, particularly his stained clothes and weaving gait at a recent event at Royal Albert Hall, do not suggest a man who is completely sober.
A frank look at addiction - and how it can affect the very fortunate as well as the less fortunate - would be compelling television, but Buckingham Palace may not be quite ready for that.
(Yes, folks, "thrive and survive" made an appearance way back in April 2019.)
In that statement, Harry was quoted as saying the documentary would be "positive, enlightening, and inclusive", which sounds like something Meg would write, but whatever.
Harry was also quoted as saying, "I truly believe that good mental health - mental fitness - is the key to powerful leadership, productive communities, and a purpose-driven self."
This sounds like the sort of word salad that marred the Fab Four's Mental Health PSA released in October, an advert that was so general about the topic that it wasn't very useful to anyone.
The documentary series will also show "human spirit fighting back from the darkest places," which I dearly hope will not be another exercise in pity tourism similar to what the Sussexes carried out in South Africa.
Meghan continues to insert herself into the tragic case of Uyinene Mrwetyana, a young woman murdered in Cape Town, sending a video this week to help launch a foundation in Uyinene's name.
Many are "BAME"- the British term for citizens who are Black, Asian, or Middle Eastern - exactly the sort of community Meghan says she cares about.
Wouldn't a project to address knife crime in the UK and its mental health implications - both for the survivors and for the relatives of the dead - be a more appropriate use of Meg's time and focus?
There's an old American cowboy expression that goes, "You have to dance with the girl that brung you." (Wikipedia defines it as "be considerate and loyal to the one who has been supportive, attentive, or helpful to you.")
Based on what we know about the Oprah Winfrey documentary, I cannot see how it will benefit the people of the United Kingdom who are paying Prince Harry's and Duchess Meghan's bills.
Perhaps it is time for them to be on their own, without public support, so they can pursue the causes they care about unhampered by the British populace they don't.
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Housekeeping note: This post is about the Sussexes. I will keep the Prince Andrew thread open for a few days so we can continue our discussions of Andrew, Beatrice, Edo, and that branch of the Royal Family there.
Although various blind items have suggested that she is setting up meetings to discuss projects with various production houses, only one US-based project has been definitively announced: Prince Harry's documentary series about "mental health" in co-operation with Oprah Winfrey for the new Apple+ network.
(While Harry is the co-creator co-executive producer, it seems inevitable that Meg will play a role in the production and make one if not several appearances.)
What does Prince Harry have to teach us about mental health?
William's mental health video
The most convincing hosts and spokespeople speak from experience: Prince William's one-and-a-half minute PSA about mental health, released this week, is a good example.Willam explains how his patronages the London Air Ambulance and Child Bereavement UK will be working together in two areas: one, teaching the Air Ambulance staff how to talk sensitively to family members of an child killed or severely injured in an incident, and secondly to help the Air Ambulance members themselves deal with the extreme stress of a job where they encounter devastating tragedies.
In the video, he speaks about his own struggles coping with bereavements when working for the Air Ambulance. "Having worked at the scene of traumatic incidents involving children, it was impossible for me not to take on board the enormous sadness and make the connection between the distressing events I had witnessed and my own family."
This sounds like a useful project that will help the people of Britain, exactly the sort of thing that a Royal patron of a charity should be doing.
So, what's Harry up to?
Harry's mental health struggles
Harry has been open about struggling with his own mental health, particularly with grieving and guilt over the death of his mother Diana 22 years ago.He also has an obvious angle in his association with military charities. Sadly, current and former service members have an extremely high rate of suicide, perhaps because of PTSD, perhaps because of their access to weapons. This would be a useful topic of a documentary.
So would addiction. Harry has already been to rehab once as a teenager on Prince Charles' orders, supposedly because Harry was using marijuana. His longtime cocaine use appears to be an open secret, and he also reportedly drinks heavily.
There may be more substances in play, and Harry's rumpled appearance, particularly his stained clothes and weaving gait at a recent event at Royal Albert Hall, do not suggest a man who is completely sober.
A frank look at addiction - and how it can affect the very fortunate as well as the less fortunate - would be compelling television, but Buckingham Palace may not be quite ready for that.
"Tools to thrive, rather than simply survive"
According to the publicity when the series was announced in April, it will "focus on both mental illness and mental wellness, inspiring viewers to have an honest conversation about the challenges each of us faces, and how to equip ourselves with the tools to thrive, rather than to simply survive."(Yes, folks, "thrive and survive" made an appearance way back in April 2019.)
In that statement, Harry was quoted as saying the documentary would be "positive, enlightening, and inclusive", which sounds like something Meg would write, but whatever.
Harry was also quoted as saying, "I truly believe that good mental health - mental fitness - is the key to powerful leadership, productive communities, and a purpose-driven self."
This sounds like the sort of word salad that marred the Fab Four's Mental Health PSA released in October, an advert that was so general about the topic that it wasn't very useful to anyone.
The documentary series will also show "human spirit fighting back from the darkest places," which I dearly hope will not be another exercise in pity tourism similar to what the Sussexes carried out in South Africa.
Meghan continues to insert herself into the tragic case of Uyinene Mrwetyana, a young woman murdered in Cape Town, sending a video this week to help launch a foundation in Uyinene's name.
Back to Britain
Uyinene's case is tragic, but so are the cases of the 23 young people who have been stabbed to death so far in 2019 in the Royal's home country, the United Kingdom.Many are "BAME"- the British term for citizens who are Black, Asian, or Middle Eastern - exactly the sort of community Meghan says she cares about.
Wouldn't a project to address knife crime in the UK and its mental health implications - both for the survivors and for the relatives of the dead - be a more appropriate use of Meg's time and focus?
There's an old American cowboy expression that goes, "You have to dance with the girl that brung you." (Wikipedia defines it as "be considerate and loyal to the one who has been supportive, attentive, or helpful to you.")
Based on what we know about the Oprah Winfrey documentary, I cannot see how it will benefit the people of the United Kingdom who are paying Prince Harry's and Duchess Meghan's bills.
Perhaps it is time for them to be on their own, without public support, so they can pursue the causes they care about unhampered by the British populace they don't.
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Housekeeping note: This post is about the Sussexes. I will keep the Prince Andrew thread open for a few days so we can continue our discussions of Andrew, Beatrice, Edo, and that branch of the Royal Family there.
Comments
Here's what it means: MM is being her usual coy self so that she remains a topic of conversation. I think she has decided that being a woman of mystery gets her discussed.
It would be lovely if they said "enjoying time with friends and family in Canada, where we began", but no, she had to play it out like a tiresome 18 year old.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7735171/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-install-fence-Frogmore-Cottage-home.html
Hope all in the U.S had a really great Thanksgiving Day.
Last but not least - welcome @grumpy_lass - great post!
'This be the verse'
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.
Philip Larkin
all the talk about C & D reminded me of this poem - its the same for us all, whether princes or paupers, It's how we deal with it, most of us don't live cosseted livestyles and just get on with it, no pity party for the majority. i get there maybe MH issues and no one is immune from that no matter what their background, but my goodness, a priveledged position will open doors for recovery that for the most of us are closed. Gosh I am getting intolerant in my old age :)
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_crown/s03
Season 3 has 89% approval rating with critics and 82% approval rating with audience, proving glowworn is a low IQ idiot.
I won't say too much about a rotten tomatoes rating on The Crown except that intelligent people prefer dramatised events to be factual, not a rewriting of facts.
But as you're American and don't know anything about the Royal Family I'll give you a pass.
I say this despite having advanced education/degree from one of the top ten universities in the US. I recognize there are highly intelligent people who did not have the opportunity to go to college (think inventors, successful business owners, creative artists, etc...).
@Tatty try to calm down and take a deep breath. You once told us Nutties to let you know if you 'weren't being friendly'. Well, is that time now?
You sound like that whip-smart MM.🤮
@nutty flavor the mean clique are at it again
In other words, @glowworm started it
You are putting words in @Gloworm's mouth as I did not see any statement about "intelligence" that word was written by @tatty.
Again you misquote,...I never said you were @tatty. I referred to "two" of you! I guess if @tatty was so intelligent they would of pointed out the correct reading of what I wrote??
Yes, it may appear that Nutty does, but perhaps she knows it is hopeless to try to correct someone 'who just doesn't get it'. Also, she sees that we are quite capable of handling things (the image of swatting an annoying fly comes to mind)
@tatty usually slinks off when they realise they have said something stupid or does not have any rational reason or facts (see ex. below) to back up their comment. It is an indication of someone's faulty argument when people resort to calling names.
The other night @tatty wrote to me that Texas was not in the South. In response I responded to @tatty was wrong by not knowing history or geography; @tatty slunk off silent again (because they were proven wrong)
>>Oh I’ll go one better. @glowworm suggests one with autism can only progress to middle school aptitude<<
I did not see @gloworm say a single thing about autism period!!
>> As a parent of a differently abled child and a former special ed teacher, that idea came across loud and clear. @glowworm said it.<<
Again, I did not see @gloworm write anything about autism! On the other hand, as we would say in the South 'You have your stinger out'!
>>Leave @Tatty alone<<
Now you REALLY sound like @tatty because you don't condemn her/his name-calling just now?!?!
>>@mimi probably because certain people here clearly pick on @tatty <<
By 'pick', you mean object to @tatty's name-calling and inappropriate comments that have been found annoying by many posters here?!?>! @tatty should expect to take what he/she dishes out.
Autism, shouldn't be used as an excuse for unacceptable behavior by @tatty (or you for her). She is aware enough to know how to perceive slights to herself so she is aware of what constitutes such behavior and therefore should not do it to others. She recognizes unacceptable behavior in others and she should see it in her. I maintain she does because she suddenly slinks off after her outbursts (hiding from taking responsibility)
I get tired of certain people making excuses for their behavior when they complain about others. Then @gloworm has a right to say things maybe because they have a disability (maybe anxiety, depression, paranoia, drug use, alcohol. etc the list can go on and on.If someone comes here and posts then they should be careful about what they write and if it is controversial then they should expect comments even objections.
I am not condoning what @gloworm wrote but I understand why they said it in part because @tatty seems to be a 'contrarian' and some have referred to her as a troll (not me)
Indeed. Quite predictable. Surely CatEyes and myself aren't the only ones that have noticed.
>>>Cat Eyes, what are you drinking? Can you pass me a tall glass? Isn’t that Archbishop a jerk?????? <<<
I am drinking dry white wine and you are welcome to a big tall tumbler!!
Yes, it is unfortunate that the Archbishop has added to (what I believe) unfounded narrative of racism. I abhor racism and I don't detect it among the posters of comments anywhere where I have read. It is an ugly accusation that Welby should back up with facts (which I don't think he can).
It is unfortunate because the populace is vilified and may resent the false accusation which could turn into negative feelings among the UK public. Here in America with slavery being a huge stain on our country, racism is a sensitive issue which I believe we battle but have made tremendous progress. False accusations can be very damaging to race relations. I hope Meghan does not use this as a reason to view the British public negatively. She needs to see that the unpopular opinions about her have to do with her and harry's actions not the color of her skin.
If Meghan's case goes to trial will it be heard by a jury? What percentage of the jury will have to decide in her favor in order for her to prevail? What do you think the jury pool will look like? Will they be inclined to favor a verdict for her?
I know all the facts aren't in. so just guessing is ok by me....just wondering. However, it is late so maybe this is not a good topic now.
@Mimi I select my food to go with my wine, not the other way around. LOL No just joking! Supposedly Chardonnay, White Sauvignon and White Burgandy for Turkey.
Heeeeeeey I knew somebody just like you once! 🙋🏻♀️🐈💜💜💜💜💜💜
Except she taught cultural integration to smoll foreign children.
I forget her name, but she was an elderly Turkish lady—she was tall and thin and had curly dark hair (and granny glasses, I think).
So during school hours they would pluck out the foreign children out of class and we’d have a special class with this lady. I remember specifically one time she sat us on a round table and she gave us each a small plastic turkey toy🦃 and explained 🍁Thanksgiving🍂 to us.
I’m actually old enough that I got to experience a PROPER FUN Halloween before America got all PC! 🎃👻 America was wonderful then!
(I grew up abroad because my father was doing a PhD on macroeconomics, and in the meantime mother taught Javanese language part-time to an Asian studies researcher.)
I love people like you. And I understand it’s different. Like, I just learned this week what “BAME” is (like American PoC) *months* after the fact of seeing Jonathan Pie 🥧 say, “________ cyclists in London”? “Bane”? What?
Anyway, “woke” culture is just a symptom of he narcissism epidemic: it’s the shifting of personal responsibility/accountability by blaming larger phenomena (such as racism/sexism), instead of owning up to your mistakes like a proper adult.
I’m ashamed to be a Millennial. I keep claiming I’m Gen X, rather.
Another thing is, most actresses (and people in general) are DULL AF. IDK how anyone stays married! So they have to learn these “party tricks” to make themselves appear interesting & get people to fuss over them. One very popular one currently is veganism: people bend over backwards to accommodate your dietary requirements, you get to make a scene when you’re out at dinner with your friends, they get to be the centre of attention when they pontificate (basically the rockstar experience without the rider or the necessary talent), there’s pricey “ethical” products they have as status symbols... PLUS, they get to pretend they’re good people.
Actresses are just like the accountant next door. The only difference is: many (if not most, but not all) are fuelled by a pathological need to be the centre of attention. I’ve hung around actresses who LITERALLY look *pained* when the attention is on someone else in a group situation. You can see it on their faces—LITERALLY. But without the party tricks, they’re just like your average office worker. I’ve seen more interesting office worker characters at my day jobs!
Meghan Markle is like everything I dislike about this world rolled into one: she’s a woke wanker who blames everything on OTHER people’s “racism” or “sexism” instead of looking in the damn mirror, she’s a hypocritical/faux humanitarian who rides on causes to raise her own profile instead or raising awareness, she’s classist/elitist in that EFF-ING CRUEL middle-class way, and last but not least she’s an Ugly American (just like her deplorable friend who likes to pretend she’s a feminist).
Imagine if I ever behaved like she did while I was on American soil (except I never did because I’m Javanese and I would never impose).
Hate to say it, but these days I’m glad AF my mother didn’t name me after Princess Diana in the end...
So tired of this woman.
It’s like the Universe is trying me!
Everything about her “faux wokeness” (her single-white-female-ing the MIL) annoys me to no end.
I need a break from everything Meghan Markle.
Don’t think she should be worth my time. Not even as a morning coffee/lunch break thing. ☕
Anyway, thank you so much for commenting @grumpy_lass (my username as a tween in high school was "cynical_lassXX"—with my birth year at the end in 2-digits before I started pretending I was 8 years older online lol).
Thanks for reminding me of that kind Turkish lady at my school!
Most people aren’t mean to foreigners.
You warm my heart. ✨
Bye, everyone! 💜
Happy Thanksgiving! I find store-bought pumpkin pie delicious! But this year I made a pumpkin cheesecake and now I have to make sweet, sweet homemade whipping cream to get a sugar fix.
It was. More liberal during an eff-ing dictatorship FFS.
Something has seriously gone wrong with the world.
Meghan Markle is just the tip of the iceberg.
I also have a nephew with Aspberger's. He gets along quite well. has no trouble finding girlfriends who like him and he plays probaseball (and played in Japan)./
You put it into words very well @Trudy and I echo your observations and sentiments about the situation;
It is like @tatty dive bombs with insults and runs off which does seem childish!
I find @tatty uses the *disability* to make excuses and that just doesn't work for me anymore. @DrabredCarpet is like @tatty's twin.in showing up to carry the 'Bad Behavior' Banner and has the audacity to say we pick on @tatty.
@tatty is a bit 'batty' and always says something catty!!! That is should be his byline (err, 'her byline'). I think of @tatty as a young man since it does remind me of juvenile male behavior.
But that is not always the case with @tatty. I for one don't like to ignore when someone is attacked. I have an inherent protective reaction when I see injustice or harm being done to others. I will do what I think is morally right.
Nutty is not usually here in the evening and it has been helpful to nip the behavior in the bud. I see that @tatty usually stops when corrected or challenged about their comments which are out of line. I don't think @tatty is a troll.
Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating. (I have some chardonnay to offer). Pumpkin cheesecake is good (quite easy). Thinking about it while munching on some turkey leftovers.
Excuse me? I hope that demand wasn't made to me to "drop it"
I find it fascinating that such trolls, busybodies, cranks usually have nothing much to contribute to the threads.
I don'i write much as I tend to be shy but I am chiming in now. @tatty is obnoxious; it is rude/domineering people that make me afraid to post!
Who wants to speculate about Meghan's Thanksgiving dinner? Do you think it ever happened? Do you think it was a happy occasion or do you think it was miserable, catty, passive agressive like most things related to HnM these days? Do you think Meghan cooked? Do you think Harry was there? And most importantly, do you think Meghan even ate any of the Thanksgiving stuff?
My observation is that she never seems to eat anything offered to her ever, she picks at food and lately, even makes faces when given something. Remember, the cupcake situation. When the toddler brought her a cupcake she literally out-memed CChrisie Tiegans yikes face. Or when she was in SA visiting the family right after that mosque visit?
Not fat shaming or anything, Meghan is not fat and I've been there multiple times, trying to lose weight while people are waving cupcakes in your face. It's hard.
Many people with a history of eating disorders get into veganism to ease their way back into non-disordered eating habits.
And I also think the trend of referring to vegan food as "clean eating" is utterly disgusting and unjust (in a nasty classist way) to many segments of society in many ways.
I've had a difficult relationship with food (ED-NOS) myself.
The trouble with me is I was stuck between 2 cultures: One the one hand a culture that still glorified thicker bodies as a sign/symbol of affluence (a beauty standards still followed 2 generations above me). And on the other: Western media (where skinny is the standard).
Believe it or not I developed my disorder *from* constantly being put on the spot (in a negative light) *for* being skinny. Next thing you know, I thought it was the only thing I had going on that made me attractive.
And then on top of that, feeling guilty because I'm surrounded by poverty in a developing country.
The only thing that finally got me out of it was when we went on a class trip to the WFP in Geneva. I still jokingly call the WFP my "rehab".
I know what it's like and I'm sorry if Meghan went through that too, I just wish she wasn't such an a-hole.
*Apologies in advance if anyone talks to me & I don't respond! I'm not being rude. I'm unsubscribing from the email updates because I'm sick of Meghan. Need a Meghan detox. Take care and happy holidays to all! 💜
The only reasons I can come up with for the marriage being approved regardless are:
1.Meghan was already pregnant or said she was pregnant, forcing Harry to propose
2.Harry and Meghan secretly got married in Botswana or somewhere else, forcing the Queen to approve their marriage
3.Harry was completely besotted, did not listen to his father or brother and threw a major temper tantrum: “If I cannot marry Meghan I will quit as a working royal/move abroad”.
Scenario 3 seems the least likely to me, because why the hurry to get married for Harry? They could have lived together for a year and gotten to know each other.
1.Meghan was already pregnant or said she was pregnant, forcing Harry to propose
2.Harry and Meghan secretly got married in Botswana or somewhere else, forcing the Queen to approve their marriage
3.Harry was completely besotted, did not listen to his father or brother and threw a major temper tantrum: “If I cannot marry Meghan I will quit as a working royal/move abroad”.
It is possible that whatever route they took to the marriage, Harry would have loved and wanted her. She will have to leave him and he will have to go away and do a lot of introspection in order to see the toxicity of the relationship. But, to look at your post ...
1. The wedding was 6 months after the proposal so a pregnancy, fake or not, makes no sense.
2. A secret wedding would have involved at least 3 other people and would not remain a secret.
3. William asked him to wait. Perhaps others in the BRF did the same. I don't think the modern BRF does refuse marriage to anyone, but does their best to get the new member to fit in. (Everyone seems to have been willing to ignore or whitewash the troublesome stuff about her and to believe that there was enough they could embellish to create a more acceptable persona for the BRF.) So I doubt that Harry had to throw a tantrum or make threats (but it seems as if he did have a hissy fit with his brother so maybe I am wrong about that).
Why the haste? Harry was being manipulated with loads of love bombing and triggers to memories of his mother, and I doubt that Meghan was truthful and honest about anything (she really seems to believe that she can get away with it forever with everyone). There is another factor ... Meghan could not stay in the UK if he did not marry her (and she needed to be close to him for the love bombing and manipulation). She had no job (tried but could not get work in the UK and outside Suits, Hallmark movies was about it). As Harry's live-in girlfriend, merching and interviews and so on, would create problems for the BRF, as they must have seen that she talks and talks and talks. She had no home (and no family to stay with - she hadn't lived with her mother since she was about 6 or was it 10?) and no car in the USA, or anywhere. Remember she did that quick trip to the USA presumably to renew her visitor's visa (ring on the finger, announcement made, excitement of wedding so Harry would overlook that she might have lied about renewing the visitor's visa as his girlfriend) when the 6 months lapsed before the wedding? Harry had to move quickly on marriage or ditch her (I am sure Megsy convinced him that renewing her visitor's visa repeatedly would not be possible, and that the longer she stayed away from her 'work' the less valuable she became on the job market), and he was too besotted to do the latter.
In reference to a previous post of yours: "It is a joke that the BRF gets any consideration from the Archbishop considering how starting with the Queen's generation there has been gross immorality. It is hard to think that the majority of them will behave within the precepts of the Church due to rampant dishonesty, adultery, fickle divorces and sexual perversions. Doubt they will get better as they seem to be getting worse IMO."
The clergy will (almost always) side with the British Royal family. They are both part of historical power structures that serve to support and maintain each other to retain control over us proles. 150 years ago they were hugely dominant forces, now they have joined with the media class/establishment to keep themselves insulated within the traditional power structure. Note that the political class still maintains an air of deference towards them as well. Now THAT'S privilege isn't it:):)
I still think the pregnancy scenario is not unlikely. The Harkles announced their engagement on 27 November, but had gotten engaged earlier that month. They did not announce the wedding date until the 15th of December.
It is possible that Meghan told Harry she was pregnant in October, he proposed at the beginning of November and she turned out not to have been pregnant (or it didn't end well, or she lied about it) before December the 15th. Perhaps the wedding was originally planned at a much earlier date than May because of the pregnancy. Of course we are all just speculating, but I cannot for the life of me understand why the BRF would approve of this marriage.
https://youtu.be/F_eOyeTaIPk
Now, I have never subscribed to the doll baby at polo theory, nor do I believe that the reveal baby was a doll. But this crazy idea does exists apparently. So have a laugh with this one, nutties. And we'll regroup soon. :)
https://t.co/QKYU6huwPU.
I ALSO JUST READ THAT DAILY MAIL PUBLISHER HAS JUST BOUGHT I NEWSPAPER FOR 49M POUNDS. THESE PEOPLE REALLY HAVE DEEP POCKETS. DOES HARRY HAVE THIS TYPE OF MONEY TO FIGHT THEM IN COURT? HARRY WILL JUST BLOW HIS 20M FORTUNE BY THE TIME THOS COURT CASE IS OVER
I think H was allowed to marry her because he threw fits. Lots of them. It's also possible they were already married in a purely symbolic non-binding but extreme photogenic ceremony in Botswana. After all, Will and Jecca had a pretend engagement in their teens, so I can see Harry having a pretend wedding in his 30s. I can also see him throwing fits.
Look at the other grandkids lower than Harry in rank. While Andrew may throw fits on behalf of his daughters, do you think Bea and Eug are known as prickly fit-throwers within the RF? Nope. How about Zara? Not likely. Peter? Or Louise and James? Nope. Just Harry.
They did underestimate M because they figured she was just a cheap, low class gold-digger who saw Harry coming a mile away. Which she is and she did.
But while they would have wished for better for petulant Harry, they can deal with gold-diggers. The RF has more money than God and they know how to protect it and protect their other assets. They also knew W&K had two kids (with a 3rd on the way) so the throne wasn't going to Harry.
But they underestimated M's narc aspect. They also underestimated the damage her American brand of woke-ness could cause when possessed by a narc.
M has been given 4 patronages (I think.) Theater, abandoned dogs, clothes for poor women, and higher education. Those should have fit her self-reported interests (maybe with a little shade in the abandoned dogs one!)
Who would have thought within the first year she'd have said British universities are racist and sexist and employ too many white men as professors? (Like US universities don't?) Or would have attended one higher ed meeting concerning gender equality showing her crotch and another her cleavage? Or said that the charity that's been successfully catering to poor women has ugly clothes and people and companies that are donating are donating only their ugly stuff? That she would visit the dog charity only once. And the theater???
Most gold-diggers keep sucking up a bit longer so they can suck their victim dry. The RF figured H&M wouldn't bite the hand that generously feeds them. And they figured as an actress, even a D-list one, Meghan could taken direction. But they underestimated Meghan there. Her entire life (well, since age 10-11, for sure) has been built around getting her own way and telling other people what to do (because she's so "special" after all.) They underestimated her ability to stop being that way and overestimated her desire to fit in.
They likely underestimated the racial issue because as many posting here have said, at its heart the UK isn't a racist country. And any background check would have revealed M wrote about being biracial but called herself white on her work resume and belonged to a white sorority in college. Who knew M would become a WOC when convenient or needed as a shield against criticism?
They also underestimated Harry's jealousy of Will and how that would play out if he married M. In the past,
Harry's inherent laziness and his inability to follow through derailed any efforts to compete with Will in a meaningful way. But M has energy and is willing to use it especially since she's jealous of Kate.
Unlike M's more crazed "fans," I don't think M has desires to be Harry's future queen consort. Too boring and stuffy plus she knows that won't happen. She'd rather be, as Diana put it, queen of people's hearts (well, maybe hearts aren't important---she just wants top billing/the most attention and doesn't want Kate to suck up any oxygen as rightfully that all belongs to M.)
Perhaps they did not approve (approval and permission are not the same). The tabloids report that William asked his brother to wait and get to know her and her intentions. Supposedly Charles and Philip also suggested that Harry wait.
But, the Queen did not withhold consent and wished them well (and went beyond what she usually does to help Meghan fit in and adjust, despite the whining from Meghan of the opposite). if she refused consent until they waited at least a year, the fall out would have been massive. The Queen convinced herself that Meghan would adjust and fit in (mature, experience with media attention, confident, with supposed major credentials in humanitarian and women's rights work, and so on). Kate was hounded viciously by the press and paparazzi before the engagement, for years. Any reasonable person would think that Meghan knew what to expect and believed her and Harry that she was the first royal bride who could handle it.
What only a few saw and most disbelieved at that time was how manipulative Meghan is; that she is basically a grifter; the effect she would have on Harry's mental health; how very much she would spend and demand; how she would be in it for self promotion and nothing else, even if to the detriment of the BRF; how she would cradle a pregnant belly and coat flick, all with a smug look on her face, for 10 months ...
I think the last time a royal got married without the monarch's blessing was Prince Michael of Kent. His wife was not well liked at all by the BRF, but over the years, she has fitted in and become an integral part of the family.
Until this recent very swift and huge action against Andrew, the BRF managed to survive all kinds of scandals by just carrying on. The Andrew debacle may have been a major game changer.
She was Catholic and a divorce but came from an aristocratic family that boasts of nobility going back several generations. They fell in love and we're deemed to be a good match but the rules of the parliament required that Prince Michael remove himself from the.line of succession to marry her which she did. He was so far down the line of succession that nobody minded that. Besides, Princess Micheal thought her blood line was far more Noble and the Windsors were beneath her and total German trash so she lorded that over everyone and anyone who listened.
She is known to be vapid, waspish, racist, obsessed with her beauty and education, basically a real life cruela de cool (minus the puppy killing part). She isn't well liked in the BRF, nor does she particularly like them especially the married in ones since they are now common folk not from nobility. She is famously know to think and say that she is the only true blue princess because she can trace her ancestry to many Kings and queens of Europe. She also reportedly hated Diana and vice versa.
She is also reportedly a bit of a shock about her kids - their education, jobs, looks, manners etc. However, by all accounts the kids are really nice, get along well with the rest of the family and the marriage has sustained over the years.
So, Lol, she doesn't really get along with the family.
On a lighter note DM very cleverly found the way to publish some spicy pics of MM the briefcase girl, fake boobs and all. I think they will do it again, just to contrast her current feminist persona to her real self.
I do not think she is completely awful though. When Diana lost HRH she was technically required to curtsy to Michael of Kent, but she rushed to reassure Diana it will not be necessary. For someone of her pride it was a truly sensitive gesture.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/lifestyle/lifestyleroyals/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-are-serving-a-life-sentence-and-deserve-a-break/ar-BBXtgWs?li=BBqdb1S
Imagine Meghan allowing anyone to tell her she is doing something wrong? Nope, not going to happen! And Harry being dominated and controlled by her, wold be unable to say a word. So, two idiots end up holding a baby in the most awkward way! (I am a great believer in energy, but holding baby's head pressed against the heart chakra does not trump having face-to-face interaction by holding it higher nor letting baby interact with others and the outside world from the safety of a parent's arms by letting it face outward (plus having arms and legs free to move).
First-time parenting mistake that has never been corrected because they think they know best.
In fairness, no-one could have forseen the utter nightmare she has become, or that the BRF was to be a stepping stone to greater things. Seriously, hands up anyone who saw that coming?
Oh yes, I forgot about that story of Diana and Princess Michael. I do like her somewhat though, inspire of all the stories I have heard. I understand how. Someone from that background would be perceived, their airs n all.
She isn't very well liked, but it's testament to her character and upbringing that her children turned out spending and her husband loves her very much. I would take a haughty Aunt over a narc, phoney, scheming sister-in-law any day. PM may have acted like she is league apart from the BRF her whole but she very much has her own life at least.
Oh and also, apparently the Cambridge kids get along quite well with the Michaels, they are neighbours after all.
PS: I think I may have contradicted myself in my own posts. Oops :p
That was the first thing I thought of! Ugh, can you imagine her leaning over the food, dishing it up, and not tying her fake hair back?
She does add a bit of glamour to the Windsors!
Is it possible that one media article is correct and they have been forced to take a leave of absence (and no SS articles are allowed)? Wouldn't that be so wonderful!
I for one live for the day (a bit over-the-top perhaps) that the Harkles face consequences for their behavior. Why should they attempt to outshine Charles/Camilla or Will/Kate?
We never got any pictures of Dors coming into or leaving the country so no pint expecting any pictures now. It's strange but so it is. I strongly suspect they might be away either at a friend's place relying in the hospitals and generosity of one of their many celebrity friends.
Why do I think so? Because they made it a point to first specifically say they will be away on a 6week break. And then again specifically said they will be at Frogmore for the holidays. They issued the second statement so as not to receive any backlash from mooching off of yet another celebrity.
Misha or Jessica come to mind. But Misha would welcome that publicity. She has just got married and Mm is single handedly bringing her nonremarkable into the limelight. So maybe it's Jessica? She has shunned any direct publicity related to MM since her Netflix show was announced.
They may also be fuests of the Soho director and his wife, the lady who is now their foundation director as well. That's one news they'll like to keep away from the public scrutiny.
If the public were allowed their say I can't imagine many would prioritise the Harkles over the people of London but that's the effective choice.
fortheheavenssake.tumblr.com/post/189375783852/tales-of-mms-diary-thursday-in-august
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/facts.html
“Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a developmental disability that can cause significant social, communication and behavioral challenges. There is often nothing about how people with ASD look that sets them apart from other people, but people with ASD may communicate, interact, behave, and learn in ways that are different from most other people.”
I want to apologize for my remark last night. I was exhausted from cooking for two days and just had no tolerance for tatty. While I get really tired of how she behaves I forgot she said she is autistic. If a person with an admitted ‘developmental disability’ were to be in my presence I certainly wouldn’t exclude such a person from any grouping.
Whereas in fact I find it heartening that readers' comments and the media in general have been laid back about it and confidently excluded that element as most people genuinely weren't concerned about that. They either couldn't care less about the BRF or they simply wanted Harry to be happy. Meghan and her misguided and ill-informed famous defenders have tried to make it the issue but Joe Public simply responds "show us the evidence". We'll see a lot of that in the DM court case. Racism is alleged, but the detail is about a copper bathtub, a yoga studio and an obscenely expensive baby shower. (Like the poster above I too am wondering if a jury will be involved. Must read up on that.)
So in fact the BRF could have been a little more robust when Harry first raised the prospect of Meghan. Racism was their bogeyman but didn't need to be. But they didn't know at that stage how the public and media would react. I didn't expect it. I think we as a society have largely moved on and I am heartened by this. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist in the UK, but there has been a strong shift in attitudes since the millennium, as for same-sex marriage. Meghan played her racist card with the BRF only just in time, while we are all still finding our way as to where we stand as a society, at this moment. Of course it doesn't help her case that she described herself as Caucasian. I wish they'd put her actor's card on billboards throughout the country.
But @tatty cannot be excused from the name calling which she has been frequently been warned against!
Many people are tired of the juvenile behavior with nary an apology from @tatty when they blatantly insult others without any provocation.
Of course this is just anecdotal and local, but I think checking out the magazine racks while shopping is a good indicator, and Meghan was conspicuous by her absence. She saw one Kate cover. I think SwampWoman said something similar - or was it just SwampMan who isn't interested?! :-)
My Mum/Mom and I are united in our dislike of Meghan, but my Dad just raises his eyes to the ceiling if she's mentioned, so she and I have a little huddle in the kitchen to exclaim over the latest, when he's not around! This is probably a microcosm of the country - the majority either negative or indifferent towards H&M. I don't know where the sugars are. I've never met one in real-life.
I can't find anyone here that cares to listen about the Meghan/Harry debacle much less talk about them; that's why I come here.
Yes I know what you mean...well that's big of you. Thanks.
I genuinely can't recall coming across any racist media coverage on Meghan, and I do a wide Google search for the latest coverage every week and have done for months now. In her position, just saying she feels she is suffering from racism is not enough without evidence. of course anyone can say they feel uncomfortable about anything they wish, and people will try to accommodate them, but Meghan's case is a whole other level. It has become a freedom of speech issue. She can't expect to stop the media from criticising her for hypocrisy or profligacy by using a far more serious charge than is warranted.
Still, I accept she has the right to make the charge if she wishes, then we can see what the courts decide.
On the Meghan front, I have been wondering where they spent Thanksgiving since they haven’t been spotted in LA. I’m thinking they never left the U.K.
Depends on which thread you visit. This thread has almost reached over 2000 posts in Part 2:
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-2024
I guess the only other royal who is held in such low-esteem is Prince Andrew, even though the issues are on a different scale (his heavy expenses and extravagance are similar though and widely resented). A lot of people I know are still giving Harry the benefit of the doubt. That get out of jail card he has is still working! Crazy I know. He's on borrowed time though.
Just thought I'd share because it seems likely they were with "friends" not family.
>>. It’s clear she is here to discuss the other aspects of the royal family in a respectful manner like Kate and William, for in stance<<
I have been insulted and I did absolutely nothing to provoke @tatty. Others have described similar episodes (which I have also observed with no provocation). The more people defend this despicable behavior the more it will happen.
So now I will announce I have an organic brain injury and I am letting people know so no one can give me any criticism, challenge me on my statements/facts or I will lash out and act juvenile.. I will also call names and hurl insults and I want you and others to make excuses for me.
Oh yes, if said person can get a Master's degree then they know to act decent enough not to piss off professors I worked at several universities with the faculty directly and it is a dog-eat-dog environment and one does not cross up a professor or there will be hell to pay. It was an unforgiving situation (the most extreme I worked in) and one paid their dues or you didn't keep your job or get tenure.
If this continues I am leaving because it is getting just as bad as other sites. Nutty allows the insults by the one who won't be named (rhymes with "batty"). Maybe I should start insulting these defenders because after all I have an organic brain injury. No, I will just let loose to whomever because I can if @tatty can.
I am going to Exactly use the Very Quotes by @tatty and see if people defend me when I name call.names/insult because after all my mental ability has been affected now by criticism here for defending my position. lol lol
Thank you for the comments. That is what I was thinking about knowing right from wrong. Yes, prison is a great example. I have a nephew with Aspergers and he is a young adult and flourishing, doing very well socially, so much so my daughter paid for him to go with her family on an international trip.
I don't think we are dealing with a troll tho. Just an ill-mannered person that wants to be deliberately rude. And if one is impulsive there is always the consideration to think awhile before you write something.
@mimi I feel for you. You always seem very nice on this site as I am sure you are in person. I am a little more feisty *smirk*, maybe it's the Texan in me.
Yes, it seems to let things slide just allows the person to think they can continue with their unacceptable behavior. It seems people don't change until the consequences become severe enough. I think Nutty should let us know if we resort to name-calling and obvious insults we risked being banned. I don't know if it is technically possible but it could at least lead to public admonishment and deletion of their comments if they slip in.
Oh Ha! Ha! Ha! I bet that's some story! Well, I got that Texan, "Don't Mess with Texas" attitude going on.
"overnight" did you mean "goodnight"?
This is Nutty’s blog so she can do whatever she wants but if we all get admonished again for this last thing tatty started then it is truly farewell for me.
Yeah, I can hear it now...the 'defenders' will pile on us and wave the @tatty bad behavior banner. It will be 'adios' for me if that happens.
I think any Thanksgiving photos and stories will be a snooze fest after the fact, almost unbelievable in my estimation. Unless she announces a 2nd pregnancy. I don't know if I could follow another 11-month term with belly clutching and coat flicking!
I genuinely can't recall coming across any racist media coverage on Meghan, and I do a wide Google search for the latest coverage every week and have done for months now. In her position, just saying she feels she is suffering from racism is not enough without evidence. of course anyone can say they feel uncomfortable about anything they wish, and people will try to accommodate them, but Meghan's case is a whole other level. It has become a freedom of speech issue. She can't expect to stop the media from criticising her for hypocrisy or profligacy by using a far more serious charge than is warranted.
Still, I accept she has the right to make the charge if she wishes, then we can see what the courts decide.
She does have the right to make a charge. Agreed.
She can make what ever charge(s) she wants but eventually she needs to produce some sort of evidence (legal or court of public opinion) to get the support of the people. At this point, many people are fed up with her drama and won't take it as gospel, clutch their pearls and run to comfort her.
No one I know follows her. Only one person mentioned something about a year ago sort of supportive on FB (after there was something negative which was justified by her not following protocol). However, I know them, know that this isn't their consuming interest and have never posted anything about her after that one time.
It's what I call the picture in People magazine. You think of her when you see her photo in a magazine but generally don't once you close the pages.
Earlier when I posted about Meghan being able to complain of racism I was being sarcastic. I wonder what the typical Brit thinks of Meghan? Do they think racism is the root cause of the UK public's disinterest/dislike of her?
I wonder what a jury pool will view her causes of action in the court case, or should I say how will they process a decision? I know it will turn on what the evidence shows and how the Judge allows certain facts to be introduced. I wonder what monetary amount is she suing for?
https://thecrownsofbritain.home.blog/
I think it was mentioned somewhere that she/they were at SoHo, Toronto. Where's the child? Ashli seems to have some decent sources.
Harry died as a child: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3dBhkubmY&list=PL38pUUBXerYP7Tf9CzubLTeAnbRs9z1bm&index=4&t=0s
The queen is a lizard: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_OBPR_jS0&list=PL38pUUBXerYP7Tf9CzubLTeAnbRs9z1bm&index=8&t=0s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhZrJ7JqZg&list=PL2IWPyTWhE_otJG6JD5sXKJR-D_Px806F&index=27&t=0s
As usual Megs/Haz wants to create an air of mystery for us plebs. However, it is getting a bit boring for me. How long will the public care about the drip, drip, drip of info which may just end up being a nonevent so-to-speak like so many of their lackluster stories.
Well, I think Meghan qualifies for that one! Especially the "shape shifting" aspect and there are photos to prove it.
Bible verses and stuff and that’s Ashli at Danja zone. Not really a source 🤣
She is whacked out to the max... a really conspiracy theorist. Like she’s serious that the queen is a mouth breathing lizard.
Like I said, she figured out if she switched to MM, she would get more hits to her channel. Several of the crazy satanist/lizard/royal family videos are still up.
“Published on Jul 2, 2018
The queen toad has orchastrated her DEATH that is fast approaching! She needs to change skinsuits and step into a fresh new suit in order to carry on the NWO agenda. Also Prince Philip is up to no good shady stuff these days... that's on it's way!!!
LINK TO SATANIC CALENDAR: http://www.theopenscroll.com/hosting/...
PLEASE PRAY A PRAYER OF PROTECTION
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR VIEWING AND MAY GOD KEEP HIS MIGHTY HANDS ON YOU! XO”
Truly the newspaper had a slow day to make Kate's dress the subject of a stupid discussion such as it were.
I think the DSM has a strong case for fair use for the reporting of current news events. They did publish a significant part of the letter, but it was as a response to the People article in which her friends revealed the existence of the letter and the contents (and thus made it a huge news story), in a way that cast aspersions on her father (and her father has a right to defend himself).
Re the most recent comments about M’s lawsuit and publicity, I think it’s simply a posturing exercise which actually makes her look like even more of a desperate loser than she appears already. The allegations for the lawsuit are totally pitiful, taking into consideration both the level and quantity of bad publicity which trails in her wake with far more disturbing and offensive stories about her not in the lawsuit (go figure), that I can only assume it’s yet another attempt of thinly disguised ‘power’ - “I’m untouchable, don’t ya know?!”. The real intention is clearly to generate more publicity for herself to add to her already hugely pathetic pity party and, of course, money, which is what she lives and breathes for. Again, it won’t work & she’ll dig herself into an even deeper trench than she has dug for herself already.
I don’t know much about how pr works in the US, but looking in on this shitshow and the catalogue of failed pr attempts by her team, I’d guess that the idea is to bombarb people with relentless pr until they cave in. Here in the UK, I’m afraid (& relieved) that it doesn’t work like that here. We don’t like endless stories about ANYONE, we really don’t care that much about things which don’t directly impact on us, and we have better and more important ways to spend our time. Perhaps most importantly, if you continue to saturate the UK press / SM with stories, Brits will start to resent you – this is especially the case with someone who is unpopular anyway, so M meets both these criteria. If you’ve messed up – and let’s face it, messing up seems to be the only thing M is proficient at - the only way back into the hearts of Brits is to sling away quietly, crawl back under a large rock & stay there for as long as it takes. You should only emerge when you have a story which is irrefutably positive and clearly is of huge benefit to others, with no obvious advantage to yourself other than improved pr. If you can’t manage that, you stay under your goddamned rock forever. M is thought to be in Canada – let’s all hope she’s looking for a rock big enough...
Personally, I think that the Harkles are rather shocked and dismayed that the Queen has taken out the Royal Wooden Spoon. It should be interesting to see whether the PR Monday comes out with more PR subtly (or overtly) accusing the royal family and citizens of the UK of racism, or whether they are all for Queen and country.