Has the story of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex entered its endgame?
Late Tuesday, the Daily Mail was informed that "as part of their new working arrangements, (the couple) will not be able to use the Sussex Royal name as they had hoped."
This makes perfect sense, considering that at some point later this spring, the Sussexes' retreat from the Royal Family will be complete. If you're no longer Royal, you have no right to brand yourself as such.
But it puts paid to the enormous amount of time and effort the Sussexes (read: Meghan and her Los Angeles-based team) have spent copyrighting the name and buying associated internet domains.
"Dozens of trademark applications were made for everything from bandanas to notebooks," the Daily Mail reports, "although sources have always stressed that these were preventative measures to protect the trademark from others, and never intended for commercial use."
Yeah, right.
The Sussexes could certainly rebrand, perhaps simply as "Harry and Meghan," a bit like "Kelly and Ryan" or, for our followers with longer memories, "Steve and Eydie." (Or even "George and Gracie" for followers with even longer memories or a history fetish.)
On a recent trip to the US, I was surprised to see how many magazine covers still feature the Sussexes - I really didn't think interest was that strong. Meghan holding Archie was the main image on the cover Life Magazine's "Year in Review" for 2019.
Somebody is clearly buying what they're selling, even if right now they're only selling their life story.
But to be frank, that's all they really have to sell. Without the stated Royal connection, will they be able to leverage their story into a business?
Most celebrity fandom has an element of self-identification to it: "They're just like us!", or at least us a reimagined by a glam squad.
Sometimes it has an element of wishful projection - all those accountants and office managers who follow heavy metal, violent rappers, or the Real Housewives for a taste of the dangerous or decadent lives they don't want to live themselves.
Which type of fandom can the Sussexes offer?
If they were a more likeable couple, a daytime talk show would be a fun idea - the (slightly) multi-racial couple meeting people and figuring out how to raise their non-traditional (i.e. surrogate-born) child.
But Meghan is irritating and Harry is inarticulate. Nobody wants to have them in the background as they eat breakfast or fold laundry or take the dishes out of the dishwasher, which is one of the functions of daytime TV.
They could still sell products, perhaps under the Harry and Meghan brand (although they'd have to avoid confusion with the popular gift fruit baskets). But what would make their products special without the Royal imprimatur?
And their other ventures - a speaking career, a voiceover career, a supposed bid for an honorary doctorate at Stanford - have so far come to nothing.
(Meghan should have aimed lower if she wanted a honorary doctorate. There are hundreds of struggling liberal arts colleges in the US that would be happy to give her one for publicity value alone. Perhaps a small women's college trying to bring in students?)
The big question is, at what point does Meghan decide she's better off without Harry and throw in the towel?
The endgame of the Sussex "empire" may be in sight.
Any value he might have as a baby model is rapidly diminishing as he approaches (or perhaps has already passed) his first birthday.
His parents seem perfectly happy to travel to Floria, California, or any place else they may be visiting without him.
Who's taking care of Archie? Is he in North America with his parents? Are his parents - one narcissist and one deeply depressed, unemployed, possible addict - in any condition to take care for him at all?
This is simply stupid, for so many reasons. First of all, given that George was her first pregnancy, how would Kate have known in advance that she'd have such a difficult time of it?
Secondly, given that George is the heir, Kate must have had a reproductive health check before the wedding and constant monitoring throughout the pregnancy. The idea is just dumb.
Enty has acknowledged that his main source on Royal matters is someone within Meghan's camp, and I wouldn't be shocked if it were Meghan herself. Could there be a deal in place there? Publish item X so I will continue to supply you with items Y and Z?
(The surrogate item ran at 815 PST on Sunday, and two other Royal items ran at 830 and 915 that same day.)
Enty's always been a little flexible with the truth, which is why his old confederate John Doe recently publicly cut ties with him. I don't see him as being above publishing a little nonsense to keep his Sussex connection going.
(There's a new one today suggesting that Meg has been meeting with the GOOP marketing guru. Sounds like a Meg plant, as does this one suggesting that Meg is ready to disclose all of Harry's sexual fetishes.)
Anyway, Enty has been embarrassed in the past by his lack of royal sources, and he's very conscious of which stories are most popular and get the most hits. This is something he mentions constantly on his podcast.
It could be that the Sussex side is continuing to sell the fiction of a Cambridge surrogacy in order to soften the ground for any news of a Sussex surrogacy.
Late Tuesday, the Daily Mail was informed that "as part of their new working arrangements, (the couple) will not be able to use the Sussex Royal name as they had hoped."
This makes perfect sense, considering that at some point later this spring, the Sussexes' retreat from the Royal Family will be complete. If you're no longer Royal, you have no right to brand yourself as such.
But it puts paid to the enormous amount of time and effort the Sussexes (read: Meghan and her Los Angeles-based team) have spent copyrighting the name and buying associated internet domains.
"Dozens of trademark applications were made for everything from bandanas to notebooks," the Daily Mail reports, "although sources have always stressed that these were preventative measures to protect the trademark from others, and never intended for commercial use."
Yeah, right.
The "Harry and Meghan" rebrand
So what now?The Sussexes could certainly rebrand, perhaps simply as "Harry and Meghan," a bit like "Kelly and Ryan" or, for our followers with longer memories, "Steve and Eydie." (Or even "George and Gracie" for followers with even longer memories or a history fetish.)
On a recent trip to the US, I was surprised to see how many magazine covers still feature the Sussexes - I really didn't think interest was that strong. Meghan holding Archie was the main image on the cover Life Magazine's "Year in Review" for 2019.
Somebody is clearly buying what they're selling, even if right now they're only selling their life story.
But to be frank, that's all they really have to sell. Without the stated Royal connection, will they be able to leverage their story into a business?
Celebrities and self-identification
Most celebrity fandom has an element of self-identification to it: "They're just like us!", or at least us a reimagined by a glam squad.Sometimes it has an element of wishful projection - all those accountants and office managers who follow heavy metal, violent rappers, or the Real Housewives for a taste of the dangerous or decadent lives they don't want to live themselves.
Which type of fandom can the Sussexes offer?
If they were a more likeable couple, a daytime talk show would be a fun idea - the (slightly) multi-racial couple meeting people and figuring out how to raise their non-traditional (i.e. surrogate-born) child.
But Meghan is irritating and Harry is inarticulate. Nobody wants to have them in the background as they eat breakfast or fold laundry or take the dishes out of the dishwasher, which is one of the functions of daytime TV.
What's left?
So what do the Sussexes have left without @SussexRoyal?They could still sell products, perhaps under the Harry and Meghan brand (although they'd have to avoid confusion with the popular gift fruit baskets). But what would make their products special without the Royal imprimatur?
And their other ventures - a speaking career, a voiceover career, a supposed bid for an honorary doctorate at Stanford - have so far come to nothing.
(Meghan should have aimed lower if she wanted a honorary doctorate. There are hundreds of struggling liberal arts colleges in the US that would be happy to give her one for publicity value alone. Perhaps a small women's college trying to bring in students?)
The big question is, at what point does Meghan decide she's better off without Harry and throw in the towel?
The endgame of the Sussex "empire" may be in sight.
And what about Archie?
Finally, what about Archie? His face now hasn't been seen in a non-Photoshopped version for nearly 6 months, dating back to his South Africa appearance in September 2019.Any value he might have as a baby model is rapidly diminishing as he approaches (or perhaps has already passed) his first birthday.
His parents seem perfectly happy to travel to Floria, California, or any place else they may be visiting without him.
Who's taking care of Archie? Is he in North America with his parents? Are his parents - one narcissist and one deeply depressed, unemployed, possible addict - in any condition to take care for him at all?
A side note
Finally, a side note about our old friend Enty at CrazyDaysandNights. Enty recently published yet another suggestion that the Duchess of Cambridge gave birth to Prince George via a surrogate.This is simply stupid, for so many reasons. First of all, given that George was her first pregnancy, how would Kate have known in advance that she'd have such a difficult time of it?
Secondly, given that George is the heir, Kate must have had a reproductive health check before the wedding and constant monitoring throughout the pregnancy. The idea is just dumb.
Enty has acknowledged that his main source on Royal matters is someone within Meghan's camp, and I wouldn't be shocked if it were Meghan herself. Could there be a deal in place there? Publish item X so I will continue to supply you with items Y and Z?
(The surrogate item ran at 815 PST on Sunday, and two other Royal items ran at 830 and 915 that same day.)
Enty's always been a little flexible with the truth, which is why his old confederate John Doe recently publicly cut ties with him. I don't see him as being above publishing a little nonsense to keep his Sussex connection going.
(There's a new one today suggesting that Meg has been meeting with the GOOP marketing guru. Sounds like a Meg plant, as does this one suggesting that Meg is ready to disclose all of Harry's sexual fetishes.)
Anyway, Enty has been embarrassed in the past by his lack of royal sources, and he's very conscious of which stories are most popular and get the most hits. This is something he mentions constantly on his podcast.
It could be that the Sussex side is continuing to sell the fiction of a Cambridge surrogacy in order to soften the ground for any news of a Sussex surrogacy.
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Gabes_human, Blue Bell, Raspberry, Gollum and others, I totally agree. @tatty is here because she has a self-described mental disability and doing what she does is fun for her. CatEyes was wondering how markle could live with herself...like tatty, some people don’t care how they affect others.
Nutty has given her her permission to drive us crazy and gets pissed off at us when we complain too much about her...I wonder - almost daily - why I’m spending time on here. I don’t need the irritation. I’ve said I was leaving because of tatty before, yet here I am...still here. Go figure.
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I agree. Forbes hasn't a clue about the royals and what their actual role is. Clue: It's not selling branded yoga mats. That's the problem with so much of the American 'coverage' of the royals - they seem incapable of understanding that there's a whole world outside their borders and folks in that big wide world do things their way.
As for Bon Jovi, how usual is it for royals to team up with non-British acts? Genuine question.
Just today, Tatty seeks to claim that the people at LSA are all one and the same as the posters here, and therefore there are fewer Markle opposers in the world than we are supposed to think!
I agree with Tatty that some bloggers on this site may also have been posting on LSA. There's a Liver Bird who poss on Lipstick Alley and there is a Liver Bird who posts here.
By the way I've been reading LSA for over 10 years because it has gossip about people such as the late Aretha Franklin you don't find on other sites. Aretha has a tough life in her younger years including given birth around 12 or 13.
LSA has mixed feelings about M. Some don't like her, some do and others are suspicious because she's a light skinned biracial passing as white who marries white unlike another biracial, Barak Obama.
The BRF withstood worse things to its reputation; it will withstand M who is not that consequential, despite her PR releases. Compare her with Diana who was very well liked.
I stopped clicking on most of the DM stories so they will cut down on writing about her. My opinion is she lives for her name in the paper.
BBW said I said everyone here and all. Twist. Twist, twist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHX-nZlpNs
It was 2013, Kate was at home with HG during her first pregnancy, and it was a night filled with celebrities ...
https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/gallery/centrepoint-winter-whites-gala-taylor-swift-prince-william-jon-bon-jovi
At the personal level, I swore some 18 months ago that I would do everything I could to show up narcissists for the truly horrible, dangerous, specimens that they are. That comes from gaining some understanding at last of such people operate and how they damage the lives of others.
At the national level, the last thing that Britain needs right now is a pair of narcissists/traitors/quislings/Fifth Columnists/call them what you will sowing division and hatred among her people. It has been bad enough since the referendum of 2016, when the result revealed just how many people were prepared to abuse their friends as racists simply because they held a different view of the EU from themselves.
We have other divisive issues - North-South, Scotland- the Rest, flooded out- London, and so on. God help us as a nation if these two can't be stopped stirring it. I passionately want national stability and for me that means steadying the ship by dealing with the mutineers on the bridge for a start.
"Harry and Meghan don’t even own a shed, let alone turning Vancouver Island into the next Martha’s Vineyard." Too funny! I wouldn't mind if they did, then I could flog my little beach cottage for a fortune.
“SEVERAL” and then posed the question of possibly “many” (question mark)
Then BBW went and did this:
“to say that we are all the same people is NOT TRUE and RIDICULOUS”
And then she quoted the Gollum AFTER Nutty spent her time this morning deleting it and asking the Gollum to stop.
So who is the oppositional one here? Yes, blue Bell woods is provoking drama that SHE ALONE created.
She deliberately misconstrued and lied about what I said so then she could create drama and go off on it.
That is a problem.
Which is absolutely NOT what I said.
Why does she do this? Lie about what I said so she can create drama about it?
Thank you @animal lover for backing me up. The last time I went to LSA, I should have taken notes on the same people who post here and there, but who has the time, and I certainly never thought bringing it up would cause people here to flip out.
The definition of several is: “more than two but not many”
The definition of many is: a large number (which is subjective and I questioned it as possibly not many)
Several is NOT all.
Many is NOT all.
A monarch with teeth is needed but thus far the BRF have been timid and reactionary. Meghan didn't get this far playing by the rules so what makes ANYONE think she will suddenly turn over a new leaf?
(Did the Hanover strain neuter the royal line's ruthless streak?)
I hope she forces their hand and threatens the whole show so that something akin to power of the throne can finally emerge; that or there really is no one behind the curtain, it's all an empty charade and I might -almost- congratulate the C-list cable actress and her dim-bulb prince for exposing the worthless Windsor dog and pony act.
@ann where have you been? Any more news on a HAMS divorce?
@elle I miss you
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1245307/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-sussex-royal-brand-royal-family-latest
“Meghan and Harry have been clever in the causes they supported”
A friend just texted that the celebration of life was “excruciating”. 😭😓
I shall now accuse you of being Gollum since you are such a trouble maker.
Copied and pasted again...especially for you two. 😜
‘Harry and Meghan will find exhaustive guidance from the Lord Chamberlain's Office on how businesses can lay claim to any sort of 'royal' status. Much of it, in any case, is governed not by the Palace but by the Cabinet Office.
In other words, Harry and Meghan are going to have to square their plans with Michael Gove as well as Granny.’
I think they should rebrand now, and announce it immediately.
>>>Gollum #2 was Drabredcarpet - a fellow sugar and pal of Tatty.<<<
Aren't you something! What detective work. Kudos!! I never liked @Drabredcarpet and thought it was interesting that they appeared many times out of nowhere, sounding like a sugar and mean-spirited. Yes it seemed like a definite Allie of @tatty. Sorry Tatty but @Dreaberedcarpet was rude and I believe it could be the obnoxious Gollum (2015)...while the 2020 Gollum was a little funny.all in all. It was the Gollum 2015 that posted the creepy and annoying remarks comparatively. It seems to appear around 8 pm CST in the US for the last two nights. Now maybe they are outed they will not show, I had once wondered if @Drabredcarpet was one and the same as @tatty but I dismissed it due to different ways of interacting. Too bad @tatty that you have an associate on here that has indeed got under the skin of posters by aligning with you (kinda like being 'Markled')
Everyone on the blog, unless they are new, know I am of the same opinion. This false narrative being pushed forward is wrong and is very damaging to an entire race as well as an entire country.
BBW,
I'm sorry about your mom and how MM and her malignant rampant narcissism and the disregard she seemingly has towards your beautiful country has heightened your grief.
https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+daily+star+20+february+2020&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjE9a6Er-HnAhULahoKHeJWBicQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=uk+daily+star+20+february+2020&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...4012.6519..6774...0.0..0.104.418.4j1......0....1.qsggKYQnWYQ&ei=eSFPXoTVLIvUaeKtmbgC&bih=1280&biw=800&prmd=niv&hl=en-GB#imgrc=JTfNLK679z6wnM
Sorry for long URL. Tried condensing it but didn't work. In massive font it says "So where is our £2.4M Harry?"
Assuming he does visit when planned, it's going to be an uncomfortable experience. If this is a sign of how the press will be in this run-up time, I can see the Palace beginning to get cold feet.
I tried posting this earlier but recaptcha wouldnt let it go through.
The cake has eggs and butter. MM would NOT approve. She would hate the deviled eggs too.
She can suck on a pickle!
Off to read Harry Markle. Refusing to allow the trolls to ruin my day!
I still think that Megan Markle would look like gollum with her wigs off and teeth out....
I am so sorry for not expressing my condolences about your Mom. I should have and I feel remiss in not doing so. Guess I got too caught up with @tatty drama today. I have lost both my parents and I can still cry about losing my dear father who died 23 years ago, almost like it was yesterday. He was the one who in part awaken my interest in Great Britain (he had Welsh and British ancestry).
Please relax and don't leave this site as your are not only neededbut vital.. I am a real fan of your comments and always pay attention to them especially!! So, pour yourself a cup of tea or favorite beverage, have a cookie or ice cream or something soothing and know you are appreciated. You have my 110% support. Take it easy!
Gollums did day they were regular long term posters, so it’s not surprising.
I hate mentioning the G word because I don’t want to provoke them tonight.
Utterly cringeworthy
And yes @Sandie it's an attempt to equate commercialism to royalty. It echoes the sugars who claim no offense on the antics of the idiot squad because they brought in "one hundred million trillion GBP" with their wedding.
And @holly @Raspberry ruffle Yes. It's about respecting the laws and the culture of a sovereign nation.
So offensive. I would guess deliberately. I wonder who the PR team knows at Forbes.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-face-21542825
“Prince Harry and Meghan Markle face calls to pay back £2.4m for cottage refurb
Prince Harry and Meghan face calls to pay back the £2.4million taxpayers' grant to do up their home Frogmore Cottage 34 days after the multi-millionaire couple quit”
@BlueBellWoods - my condolences also, and I do hope you stick around. I love your posts.
I didn't see what happened here last night - apart from any bits Nutty chose to leave on after her clear-up. If I sense a spat I just scroll quickly, skating lightly over the surface, but I do hope calm has been restored now. This is such an interesting bunch of people and we have such a variety of backgrounds, it would be a great shame to get derailed. Just think how Meghan would like that. Especially now the endgame seems to have begun.
Many thanks to Nutty for continuing to give us this space.
Sounds delicious and I love the visual on the no teeth no wig Markle!
Please accept my condolences as well. I hate that the dastardly duo make it worse for you.
I love the passion here. This is important. Please come back.
And wow on the detective work!
That was seriously creeping me out.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/prince-andrew-loses-hrh-title-21528005
They certainly have to be seen to be even-handed here.
The Queen must feel as if she's ruling over a family of uncontrollable toddlers. How I wish Prince Philip was still around.
I found it here https://wikicelebrities.com/rose-hanbury
“Rose Hanbury Trivial Things
She is also known for having worked as a researcher for the Education Minister Michael Grove. “
Not sure if that is enough or prove it, but it seems correct
I've always had a weakness for Howard Keel. He came along and imposed some order, like a Texan Prince Philip. Not entirely successfully, but then there wouldn't have been a story ...
As I said earlier, I've been reading LSA for over 10 years. My reading is not limited to the unpopular opinions about MM thread.
That's why I said views of MM vary from like to dislike in LSA.
I have also been reading Nutty's blog since its inception.
Some bloggers I agree with and others I skip over. Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes not.
I read Tatty and Nelo because they usually paste articles.
@hennebradyfan what other tidbits do you have?
"What I loved so much was that it was a different and surprising choice - it was a little sheer-ish and black, even though it was an engagement picture," she adds, now more free to talk about Meghan's dress. The moment was a surprise even to Ralph, the brand's creative director, and Russo, the CEO, as they had sent the dress thinking it was for a non-royal magazine shoot."
Interesting that it says "now more free to talk about Meghan's dress". Also the point that they thought it was for a non-royal shoot. QUITE.
Notes that "the Ralph & Russo's client list fast became a who's who of the ultra-wealthy, from Middle Eastern royalty to Asian billionaires and Hollywood celebrities". Again - QUITE.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/womens-style/ralph-russo-creators-meghans-56000-engagement-dress-reveal/
I actually liked the dress and for me it was the last time Meghan looked at her best. But it was wholly unsuitable and the cost was the first time I reacted with doubts about her, since I was OK with the engagement interview (I wasn't watching carefully enough and her manner seemed a refreshing contrast to Kate, who I am now in the process of deifying having seen the error of my ways). I liked the Tig. I liked MM's style (never saw her acting till later) but the white bathrobe, tacky ill-fitting shoes, bare legs in winter and then a see-through dress that cost two years' average UK salary were like massive bumps in the road. This saga will in future be seen as a series of milestones leading to total disillusionment. Each milestone would have its own MM outfit we can never unsee (whereas Harry's crumpled grey suit will do for all).
@ava c I liked the dress too, but I thought it was super fancy and overdone for an engagement shoot.
I will go check it out but I thought Nutty deleted except one post by 2020Gollum. I will look now!
I guess we will get taken to the woodshed for discussing this. lol
I am glad you came back!
I like all of you and wish that you could just scroll on if it is someone you don't get along with. It's hard not to buy in and want to come out against someone who has been a jerk (at best). sigh. In fact, not responding is actually may make the poster more likely to try to keep responding to get some kind of response from you. But, eventually, if you can hold out, they will give up (because obviously you will become the gray rock (anti-narc response). You just have to be stronger than they are. Just one more none response than they can lash out at you.
Nutty, if you feel you need to go moderated, I will volunteer to help if you think I am the type of person you want to help keep the keep the tone of things.
Tonight at the grocery, the cover of US magazine has a cover with H&M with a title of "The Final Insult - 15 of their loyal staff fired". Oh, my, my, my. Not all is happy to see you here in the USA.
Ava - Do you know about this site? https://tinyurl.com/
You just drop your copy into that, paste and it gives you a short link. When I do use it, I do let friends know something about it so they know my account has not been hacked and this will take them some dark place and give them a bad virus.
Ok thanks for the explanation. Yeah, that is what I was thinking that Nutty didn't see them. Some complain that she doesn't oversee the blog enough. However, @tatty's request/demand the Nutty put the blog on 'moderation' would be a death blow to the site. A few weeks ago, the site was accidentally put on 'moderation' mand no one could post for like half a day until Nutty changed it back.
I have toyed with starting a blog. Because I have been disappointed how things have transpired here in the last 6-8 months or so. I would not allow the meanness or the outrageous sugar comments.
Registered in 2017?by the U of Sussex. Registrar is GoDaddy.
The text and photos on the website by that name are PLACEHOLDER TEXT AND PHOTOS. They demonstrate what your company’s website could look like if you used the template shown, designed by GoDaddy. The address on the contact place is a placeholder.
This website is just sitting there. The U has a global/international studies group, so they may be “parking” the domain so no one else can use it. No difference in registering University of Sussex vs Sussex University.
I am a former web developer/designer. As such, I see no reason to think the Harkles are connected to this domain.
I am brown-eyed Girl. Having trouble with Blogger signing me in as medievaladyUS. Sigh.
BluBellWoods is leaving. I'm sad. Guess you read why.
I am glad you are here. Boy was it a wild day.
Boy you got out of dodge last night. lol
@WizardWench
Is there some news that is reporting Markle's lack of funds now?
There was some discussion about some university with the name Sussex University or Sussex Global U. Cited earlier in this thread.
Martha's Vineyard my ass.
Everyone from the PNW knows it is beautiful, but it isn't exactly ... it's just not.. .I don't see it. @PortCityGirl feel free to weigh in, aren't you from Portland, OR?
I agree with the person who said all the commenters here seem to be well educated. It's an excellent point and I think that's why it's so enjoyable to read each other's contributions. I also love that people report in with updates from other locations, Skippy isn't into that.
Question - Does Harry get to wear his uniform with special cords & medals in March or what???
I thought no but now I'm not so certain.
Yes, the posters on this site who regularly spend time on LSA to the degree they confidently state they have read every Meghan-related post (I believe & respect that, I'm crazy too), yeah - this community is FULL of racists.
*eyeroll*
That was me that mentioned the educated part and I'm over here on the east coast in the Carolinas. My brother went to med school in Cali and loved Oregon, but I never traveled up that far!
BBW,
We will miss you. Hope you will find peace with your Mom.
I guess that should tell me something about making assumptions! ;)
Don't let the idiots get you down.
Don't let the sugars shut us down.
Give the royal wave while scrolling past the crazy poppy poopy madness. Hopefully the culprits will get blocked or get their meds adjusted soon.
That's ok. It happens a lot. Lol. Loved your eyeroll comment.
The use of ‘royal’ in a trademark is classed as a ‘sensitive word’ and thus comes under scrutiny, and permission to use it for actual trading is required.
What a coward I am for leaving you to deal with nutty by yourself. It doesn’t matter what I say, she doesn’t see it my way and won’t even consider telling certain someones that NAME CALLING is not allowed.
I am sorry. Going to hit the sack before my new buddy appears and wants to know what I am wearing.....or NOT wearing!!!!!!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Do you know the difference between 15 million, 58 million, 438 million and a BILLION???
Tell me why George Clooney doesn't have a billion dollars but Kylie Jenner and Meghan Markle will. Please explain this to me.
HA - seriously. Forbes will print anything now, I know a bunch of "Forbes contributers" Forbes is full of crap these days, they aren't even legit anymore.
Disregard the typo about the straightened hair. And why is it not natural?
You know can you tell me why I should be jealous of a woman who has a fake nose, fake boobs ('magical lol) fake yak hair and the biggest feet I have ever seen on a woman. Oh that's it! Harry has a foot fetish, and with those clompers he can really indulge.
The sugars defense against charges of her being a grifter extraordinaire always hinge on the millions she has in the bank. She and Harry are madly in love with each other! She doesn't need his money! And I don't think they would be hustling the way they are trying to hustle if she had big money. The $2-3 million that Harry can extract his trust fund on a yearly basis is nothing to these two.
I read the same several places I agree about her real earnings and that she probably had nothing left. She spends spends spends and doesn't earn squat anymore.
Heck why she had to yacht and get freebies. Couldn't even buy a house (or a trailer...you hear that Unknown). Meghan was on the lookout for a rich husband because she was failing, fading and finished. She will never be worth billions unless she gets a life Ins policy on Harry and bumps him off (oh wait, she's not smart enough to get away with that)
I appreciate all you wrote. You have such thoughtful posts. I am almost incapable of writing much at this time of night due to arthritis. But you are spot on. I really don't think she has the ability to succeed with or without Harry. Her looks are failing, her talent is nonexistent, she is a phony, lousy personality, bad reputation etc....
Maybe it is because I am tired that I am feeling pessimistic about the Harkles' situation right now ... I guess I believed in what the BRF stands for and Meghan, with her accomplice Harry, just has not upheld any of those values. Fair enough if she can't crack it and wants to leave, and take Harry with her, but to take no responsibility, admit to no failing, and to not be able to honour and respect the families (including her own) that gave her so very much ...
I am sure that by the time the Harkles return to the UK for the last of their official engagements (supposedly for the next year at least), I will be feeling more optimistic and will enjoy the show they put on and, well, what happens.
Will William do some scarfing?
Who will Meghan cosy up to? Charles?
Will Camilla suddenly come down with a cold?
Will Kate look sad?
How smug and triumphant will Meghan and Harry look and what will they be wearing?
Will anyone turn up to throw vegetables at the Harkles, or, at the very least, give them a loud round of boos .. or even make some placards to hold up?
How very British stiff upper lip will every one be?
It is going to be fun!
Unknown -
You wrote: Meghan keeps winning tho.
Interesting.
I think of it as more like - She appears to be making gains (or some sort of progress) but we won't know more until someone crosses an actual finish line.
I don't think we will know anything concrete for a while yet - maybe a year or two before we can see how the dust has settled. A lot can happen in a year (or more). Who would have predicted H&M proposing a partial royal participation and partial private life a year ago? And, some things may be so private, we may never ever know all the details.
Thank you for understanding re: typos
Yes, we need to get out the popcorn for these events. I'm thinking it will be 50/50 about whether Megs shows. The only reason I think she will is because of Vogue? event. I know I am awful for wishing it, but I hope the Harkles get booed, big time. Definitely, someone should push Meg off the balcony, maybe little George (it could be his first 'kingly' act. I bet Harry will wear his uniform, the turncoat! Since Meg hasn't been looking good lately I imagine she will be a fashion fail.
I really hope they don't show for poot Bea's wedding. I cringe what Meg would do to upstage it. Probably wear a white maternity dress yet not be pregnant, just fat.I could care less about their little sprog. But Meghan will probably bring it and use it as a shield in case the plebs throw veggies and bananas with empowering messages (like 'go back to Canada'. 'were ok wirhout you' and 'die don't thrive' oops no that was wishful er a Freudian slip or some such excuse_
I hope the Queen gives them a dressing down for everything possible. It would be even grander of Philip gave them a what for. William needs to give his brother a code word to Harry in case he needs to escape. Like 'Yak' or something, no guess that wont work since Meg knows all about yals, her favorite wild animal besides the wolverine who she emulates/
Well hopefully Harry flirts with an airline stewardess so Meg goes ballistic on the trip and gets hets tackled by an air marshall and ends up in jail (better the Tower, but we cant be so lucky). I can only hope Harry reconnects with Che;sey and he dumps Meg faster tan she can scream 'alimony'.
So very sorry to hear about your mum X
I will miss your great posts, & humour.
I agree with you, having opposing opinions is fine when done constructively.
I tend to ignore the calculated, passive aggressive jibes couched in innocence, Ouch!
I am awarding you the “Golden Agatha”. for Super Sleuthing!! ��
Yes, CatEyes, that is why I tried to clarify. The University of Sussex is in England and they have a full-service website. It includes information about their global/international studies program.
The sussexglobal.com is a placeholder website, probably set up when the domain was registered in 2017 by the university. The photos and text are simply to show a company how the GoDaddy website template used on sussexglobal.com works and how content would be added. That is all it is for. It has nothing to do with the university or any other business.
It would be a big stretch to try to connect it to the Harkles.
Hope things work out for your brother and he is safe.
Thank you for your kindness!
I am sorry I did not realize you were the original one who mentioned the university. Good catch on both counts.
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If Harry does show up I hope he doesn’t wear uniform. He’s a disgrace to the Forces, treacherous behaviour.
As for madam, I can’t see her tottering along, even for Vogue.
I think of the brand difference between the two couples as the disparity between 300 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets and a$15 bed in a bag purchased from Woolworth’s. Or a Fortnum and Mason picnic hamper vs. A package of stale crackers and spray cheese out of a can. If anyone else has a comparison to share, please do!
Marmite & Vegemite is a spread for bread/toast. You either love it or hate it, no in between.
To whomever is writing this:
So much jealousy in here. I actually feel kinda sorry for all you women. So hateful. Meghan will go on to amazing things. More beautiful children with her prince, an empire, an acting career, all while giving back to her philanthropies. Keep hating :) Oh, and Harry doesnt have any blonde side chicks. He has a woman of color, its all he needs. Nice try tho
This is an open forum. If you've got some solid points and would like to disagree with our points, you're welcome to politely do so. (Please get yourself a user name to differentiate yourself from other "unknowns" however).
We're open to disagreement, but we're not open to low-rent insults like "keep hating :)". It's tiresome and unimaginative.
Do you know the difference between 15 million, 58 million, 438 million and a BILLION???
Tell me why George Clooney doesn't have a billion dollars but Kylie Jenner and Meghan Markle will. Please explain this to me.
HA - seriously. Forbes will print anything now, I know a bunch of "Forbes contributers" Forbes is full of crap these days, they aren't even legit anymore.’
Agree! I was going to say the credibility of Forbes reporting the truth and facts is zilch. Yes, the Kyle Jenner being a self made billionaire was the biggest joke ever. 🤣
I knew as soon as I saw the article on how much the dubious duo would make would be laughable. 😀
If you're looking for British-style Marmite in NZ, go for `My Mate' - that's the real thing, good and salty! At least, that was my experience 10 years ago.
I agree that there are many posters here who seem well educated, but at a certain point, when one tries hard to intellectualise simple things, it just becomes mental masturbation. Then it becomes a little exhausting to read frankly.
Most issues in this drama are pretty simple: you have a highly intelligent, experienced and powerful person playing chess against a duo of imbeciles who are playing checkers. The end.
To the hysterically screeching Unknown accusing us all of racism and jealousy or whatever:
There are many women in the world I could be jealous of: Delphine Arnault, Charlotte Casiraghi, Dasha Zukhova, and a bunch of others. These are women who live by their own rules. They are free. They don't have to sell themselves, they don't need to follow rules, they don't need to hustle or make themselves popular. They live quiet, private fabulous lives.
MM is the antithesis of all of that. She is despised everywhere she goes. She can't keep a friend for longer than 5 minutes. Nobody has one good wold to say about her. She has done nothing interesting, inspiring or admirable.
There's actually more: she has pissed away THE ONLY chance she got in life to make something GOOD out of herself.
make no mistakes about it, she's infamous and she will remain infamous: the d-list Hollywood deal or no deal suitcase girl number 16 from season 11 who shat at the opportunity to be a member of the royal family!
This is the exact opposite fo winning. You can't write stupid like this.
True - we never said he has high standards.
@Hikari Marmite is eaten usually with toast and is quite salty and somewhat tangy taste. It is quite strong, so a little goes a long way. It is a love /hate thing, but I am an exception I don't mind it but don't crave it either.
I am still pondering the Archie question. Will he make an appearance with Harry and MM? If he is left with the nanny/nannies back in Canada will any of the media write about invisible Archie?
It will be very interesting to see what will happen regardless of whether we get any news of Archie. Most interesting will be William's interaction with Harry, or indeed if there will be any - I get the impression William will ignore and not interact with either Harry or MM.
As I'm on stupidbiotics (my pet name for flucloxacillin) yet again and it's affecting my sleep I've had time to stare at the ceiling and think about things.
Yesterday, I read an article where a royal commentator was claiming that H&M probably won't attend Bea's wedding. I've tried to find it again but unfortunately I can't remember which publication it was in nor seem to find it in my history. Basically, if my memory serves me right, the commentator was saying that neither really want to go to the wedding, but if they don't it'll cause a major upset in the RF because it'll be seen as a snub and show that they put themselves before family.
I know none of this is really a surprise for anyone who's been following this, but it made me wonder whether this is another PR effort rather than just a commentator giving their opinion to a reporter. If it is PR I'm not even sure in my own mind which camp it's likely to have come from because I can see it from both sides. H&M would probably put it out to fish for a reaction (from past behaviour I can't really see them doing it as a way of softening the blow if they don't turn up, although I suppose that's also an option), and HMTQ's camp could be making it publicly known that if they don't they'll be seen as selfish and uncaring about other members of the family.
On the other hand... If H&M are testing the waters, I'm not entirely sure they'd put out there that if they don't go they'll be seen as selfish, although to be fair they've got form of saying things that don't reflect well on them and shooting themselves in the foot so perhaps this may be another. Later on in the article the commentator was critical about the wedding itself (I do remember that the term "posh tent" was mentioned again, instead of marquee, they also made a disparaging remark about the event itself which I wish I could remember), which seems to be a weird thing for HMTQ's PR to put out there.
I honestly don't know because both options have positives and negatives regarding who might have had a word, and I can't figure out which one is more likely. It's probably just a commentator's opinion and I'm reading too much into it, but the way things have gone so far I've become cynical and suspicious about anything that comes out in the media.
Apologies if this came across as rambling and didn't make much sense, the infection is well on the way to being sorted but the antibiotics are still kicking my backside somewhat.
It sells products bearing slogans such as `Proud to be a Girly Swot'
My favourite for the current context would be:
`No Amount of Evidence Will Ever Persuade an Idiot'
I'm another Marmite lover and I have it every morning on toast for breakfast without fail.
It's an yeast extract and full of Vitamin B. (Bovril is beef)
I started off many years ago by spreading it thinly, but much like a curry, the more you eat it, the stronger you want it!
Off to get my fix right now....... ��
HOLLYWOOD HARRY Meghan Markle and Prince Harry ‘eyeing massive Malibu mansion’ with $7 MILLION price tag.
What’s $7 Million in GBP, about £5.5 million. Now you think eyeing up property in that price range is ‘rich’. It’s laughable, like many serfs even I know that’s nothing in the world of money. I have a London friend who married a finance chap and they are ordinary well off and that’s the sort of money they would spend on a house. Rich money spends way more.
It cost £2.4 million renovating Frogmore Cottage, half their buying budget!
Does this signal that they realise they are champagne tastes with ginger beer pockets? They must cut their coat according to their cloth? Typical sayings I grew up hearing a lot.
A tip for anyone who's never had it before - don't put it on toast unless you know whether you actually like it. The heat from the toast makes the taste a lot stronger. I've always liked it, but even I can find it a bit too much on toast sometimes. I also add it to gravies and other things for a bit of extra flavour, and hubby loves to put some in a mug and add boiling water to make a drink.
Meg could star in a new “Carry On” film, “ Carry On Con “
Sponsored by “Away” Carry Ons & her catchphrase
“Infamy, Infamy, they’ve all got it in for me”
A bucket?
I am so envious!!! :(
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8027943/Meghan-Harry-want-Malibu-California-Megxit.html
https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/anmer-hall-norfolk-interior-kate-middleton-prince-william-282642/
Yes we know that only certain aspects of the Frogmore renovations were funded by the public purse - the structural aspects - but such things were done at Anmer too. I remember seeing all the coverage at the time detailing such work. So the difference seems strange. Maybe Anmer was more obviously a private house owned by the Queen, as opposed to one also in the royal property portfolio but used for staff. But if so I don't see why the public should have paid to convert it to a house for royal family members.
That Christopher Andersen book on W&K, when it covers such matters, shows that often the scale of such expenditures has been under the public radar:
On the house W&K lived in the third year at university, which brought a fresh round of costs after security already in place for the first two years:
"Providing space and freedom for the prince and his friends would cost British taxpayers in excess of $2.5 million—most of that spent on installing bulletproof windows, panic rooms, new security cameras and surveillance devices, and of course a beefed-up force of armed guards stationed in a separate building right next door."
On their house in Anglesey, when other RAF personnel had to live on base:
"... their cozy off-base living arrangement did not come cheap to British taxpayers. Because of their relatively remote location, fifteen extra officers had to be assigned to guard the prince’s farmhouse at a cost of more than $2 million. “Prince William is regarded as the highest security risk,” a Scotland Yard spokesman stressed. “There is no question that the extra protection is required.”
We accept it as William is going to be a king while Harry is low in the pecking order and I'm not quibbling with that, but I do think the public debate on the future of the monarchy would be radically changed if there was some degree of transparency about security costs. They don't have to go into details helpful to terrorists and criminals. Just give us the totals. We are facing a difficult and expensive future with environmental issues and the demographic time bomb, not to mention Brexit. We should be in the possession of more information about the true cost of the BRF.
I would not "quibble" over the price to protect the Monarch and two future kings and their families. It is the hanger ons that need quibbling over. HAMS as an example.
The Monarchy is an asset to your country. I would much rather have that constant stability as head of country than the bumbling leeches for life we have here in the states. Most are globalists just in it to line their own pockets.
To (kind of) get back on topic, I'd like to thank everyone here for improving my knowledge of the royals in general; before, I'd only really paid attention to the "big" stories (weddings, funerals etc) but now I've learned so much more from this blog I can now confidently answer quite a few questions on the RF when we're watching quiz shows :D
I for one, would be happier for MORE to be spent on the Cambridges if it meant they didn't travel so much together. My blood runs cold at the thought of some disaster wiping them all out at once as, quite apart from the human loss, we know who would be next in line. And after them would come Archie. Unbelievable that M&H have got away with such wilful obfuscation about his birth.
I totally agree! Imagine how HMTQ must feel if we feel so strongly about this!
Heading over to Amazon right now. Thank you soooo much! :)
Apologies to Nutties for being off topic but Marmite is my addiction!
The newspaper that ran the strange articles about the PB and E wedding and H & M was the Daily Express, there were also one or two more articles, none of which really made sense. The one problem was of course that Omid Scooby (of Soho House/Markus Anderson. Dad (OM) is apparently a major investor?? in Soho House. Connections again. ) Omid masquerades as a Royal Expert?Royal reporter?? but has really only ever been MM's mouthpiece. (Podcasts etc with EA). I assumed the articles were all PR and took them with a pinch of salt. DE is odd in some regards as it sometimes has anti (H & M) pieces, then tomorrow they would put the sugars to shame. Another blog Chartan Duchess has the results of a YouGov poll regarding the Monarchy and the future. It is weighted but the full questions and percentages are there. It is quite interesting, especially regarding the younger demographics.
In our family, it tends to depend on which one is the in-law; (to use random made up names as examples) if John is my brother and Mary is his wife, we refer to them as "John and Mary", if Mary is my sister and John is her husband, we say "Mary and John", I think it's because we've obviously known the direct relative for longer than the in-law so it feels weird to do it the other way around.
Does anyone remember whether we used to get "Diana and Charles" articles back in the day or was it always "Charles and Diana"? I was only 5 (if my maths is right lol) when they got married so most of the press coverage at the time naturally passed me by, and as I've mentioned before I didn't pay attention to too much until fairly recently. Just thinking about how a lot of news media always insists on naming Meghan first and then the mention of Harry as if he's an irrelevance. Jumping back to the previous paragraph, I've "known" Harry for a lot longer than I've "known" Meghan so it just feels off for me personally to have her always named first in the media, regardless of royal protocol.
Oh, and if HTMQ is reading, if you need a resident for Frog Cott, I'm available lol I know it's been said it's not the most desirable place to live but I wouldn't mind sharing my space with frogs at all, in fact it would be my idea of heaven as I've always loved frogs - I have a trio of very cute White's Tree Frogs in a vivarium and wild frogs in my outdoor pond. The "swamp" reference doesn't bother me either as mozzies don't like me much so I don't tend to get bitten. As long as the budgies approve of the view out of the window, the dog and the cat won't care as long as they get fed. Can I bring my pond fish?
@Miggy, you're welcome :O) always happy to assist in someone's Marmite addiction as I'm a self confessed addict myself lol
@Gloriosa, that's probably where I saw it, although I don't recall Scobie being mentioned. I'd have recognised his name, so I think it was some other "royal expert" who was quoted (the DE tend to class anyone with an opinion as a "royal expert" it seems so it could be just about anyone). I could be wrong mind you.
Ok, I think that's enough rambling from me for now, just seen the time so I'd better get off my rear and start to tackle the housework.
I love frogs too, and every Spring a whole procession of them arrive to use our pond. I know it's OT, but when the frogspawn has been laid, one frog stays guarding it from one end, and another at the other end. Then two more frogs come and take over from them at regular intervals. They're changing shifts! I think of it as the froggy creche.
You may ask me how I know this. Well, when I was doing a degree as a mature student, I'd go and watch the frogs and wish I was one, as they didn't have to do essays!
Epic. Not honestly, decency, respect, warm personality, intelligence, compassion, straightforwardness, modesty, ability to support your partner, hard work. Just the skin colour and if you dare to disagree woe to you. And they accuse us of racism.
I know real great women "of colour" and Megsy is not fit to sit with them at the same table because they have all the great qualities she doesn't. They are real thing.
The poster probably associates with Megs. I have some words of wisdom for this person: Meghan is not worthy of you. She will use you and your support the same way she used everybody else in her life - to advance herself.
The Harkles are jokes. Clowns. And their desperate moves to attach themselves to the celebrity and woke capitalism speaking circuit worlds makes it even worse. They are harried, compromised, pathetic and the object of ridicule. No one is jealous of that. People simply want the Harkles to get the full comeuppance due to them based upon their horrific behavior.
Pains me to see more people leaving the board because they feel bullied or not listened to as regards the apparent sugars on the board. Here's a question -- if you leave and the 'sugar' stays, who wins in that scenario? Are you just giving the 'sugars' what they want by leaving?
I couldn't tell you what several of the posters on here wrote even half a day ago because as soon as I see the user name, it's scroll-past time.
I've always been taught that the solution to the 'problem' of free speech is more free speech. Thus, if you don't like what someone says, just come back and beat them on the facts with your own thoughts. Nutty doesn't want to make this a (supposed) sugar-free site. But we're still talking like a 95/5 ratio here or better for the anti-sugars. W anti-sugars not exactly living in a cloud of oppression, and I say that as a dedicated anti-sugar. If someone wants to come in and drop some Meg PR talking points, who cares? Just avoid them, IMO.
I really do not think these two will show up at Beatrice's wedding. They have left in such an arrogant, nasty, bridge-torching manner, I believe neither does the RF want to see them there, nor do they want to show their faces.
Also, like all narcs, MM is a coward. She runs whenever she doesn't get her way. I don't think she'll set foot into Britain for at least 10 years.
The new Harry Markle post is great. The only thing I don't agree with her about is the "Queen may be blowing it" tone that the post seems to take, in terms of how much supposed latitude the queen is giving to the Harkles with the renew things in one year clause and so forth.
As things move forward, my guess is the monarchy will only have more leverage as regards the Harkles, not less. So the Queen can take the route of 'she is trying to be nice' or whatever you want to call it. The Harkles are far down the road of proving they have no idea of how to manage a brand. So I would say give them some flexibility, let them continue to fail, and then check back in a year and tighten the reins if you need to. When people care even less about the Harkles than they do now.
I'm looking forward to the Quitter Tour Of Shame coming up in March. Will the Harkles go to all the events? Will they be booed at the events? And so forth. It's one more step for the royal family to be able to formally, and very publicly, cut ties with the duo. With the royal family doing so in a kind, dignified manner while all reflect on how the qutters gave it all up.
I enjoyed the PR stuff coming out the other day via Team Harkle when the news emerged about the "Sussex Royal" brand apparently being shelved. One of the items was that the Harkles are wanted at the Davos World Economic Forum. Of course they are! If Davos brings in someone like Greta (climate change) to yell at them and tell them to do better, then they would be the perfect woke forum for the Harkles.
But, Davos is like a year away. The 2020 forum just took place. And Davos speaking gigs are not, I don't think, the type of things where you come back year after year. Maybe Davos has a Wokesters In Residence type of thing, but I'm not sure they do.
There are only so many woke speaking gigs to milk. And plenty of celebrities are in on the same grift. So, good luck to the Harkles. They're going to need it.
It's an yeast extract and full of Vitamin B. (Bovril is beef) ‘
That’s it, you’re absolutely right about Bovril and beef. 😂 I mainly only like Marmite on hot toast, and from a glass jar too, none of that stuff from a squeezy bottle! Argh! 😩
@Camper, Can Harry and Meghan afford to run a £5.5 million home with their lifestyle wants? They have to buy it first. 😳
Very well said.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/meghan-markle-was-destined-for-royalty-long-before-she-became-the-duchess-of-sussex-claims-former-co-star.html/
Meghan Markle appeared on the hit game show, Deal or No Deal. Meghan worked as a “briefcase woman” on the show.
But according to Express, host Howie Mandel recently joked that he immediately knew she was going to be royalty during their brief interactions on the set.
“I did, I saw her as royalty,” Mandel stated. “Really. During the commercials, I would bow down to her. And she would ask, ‘why are you doing that? why are you doing that?’”
Mandel added that he would always tell Meghan Markle that she will one day understand why he bowed to her. The actress never understood what he meant, at least not until she fell in love with Harry.
Also, watch this video clip from approx 2:00 in.
https://www.ellentube.com/video/howie-mandel-on-meghan-markles-deal-or-no-deal-days.html#time=203
Why was I sniggering?
Well, I've mentioned before that my ex was a narc and way back in the 70's when narcissism wasn't discussed, (was it even known about?) one of my parents used to bow down to my husband (behind his back) and refer to him as Lord ******** (our surname) due to his delusions of grandeur.
I have a sneaky feeling that this Howie fella was doing the same. :))
I agree with you about "the solution to the 'problem' of free speech is more free speech".
Also, I'm not a babysitter. The goal of this blog is to create a space to discuss the Sussex case - and if people occasionally want to discuss something else, like Marmite, that's fine.
I have limited patience for sorting out online fights between adults.
@Raspberry Ruffle- - I hate those plastic bottles too!!
I've had a thought about the upcoming Last Hurrah tour and MM may well turn up at all events even more "secret" events. Her raison d'etre is to upstage everyone, especially Kate so I think she may well do something big. Any normal person would stay away,especially as she basically ran away and left Harry alone in his own for a week. What will she do??
Thanks to Gloriosa's information, I've been able to find the article if anyone's interested in seeing the original. It seems I'd actually read it in the early hours, so no wonder I couldn't find it in yesterday's history ~facepalm~
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1244853/princess-beatrice-news-wedding-prince-harry-meghan-markle-royal-wedding-2020-family-latest
The commentator was someone called Angela Mollard, not got a clue who she is. This is the part disparaging the wedding that I couldn't quite remember:
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Princess Beatrice got engaged to Edo while on holiday to Italy in September 2019 and the Queen offered Buckingham Palace as a venue for the reception.
But Ms Mollard believes one detail of the wedding will make it “crass”.
She said: “The reception is going to be at Buckingham Palace but not actually in the palace. It’s a posh tent.
“I was thinking about the toilet situation.
“It’s May, Britain rains all the time, May's likely to rain as it’s spring.
“I was just thinking do you have a port-a-loo when you have a royal wedding?
“It seems a bit crass, doesn’t it?”
She continued: “I find this interesting, I can imagine they don’t want people floating around the palace.”
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^ and now I've read it again, that very last part puts me in mind of the rumour that Meghan got into trouble for "floating around the palace".
My grandparents attended a garden party at BP many years ago, it's a shame they're no longer with us because I could have asked them what the toilet situation was for that (not sure if my mum would know, but I might ask her next time I speak to her). If they can hold garden parties and other events in the grounds for members of the public without anyone complaining about the toilet situation, I'm sure a private wedding reception involving family and friends wouldn't be an issue. I also had to chuckle at the "it's May, it'll rain" comment - this is the UK, it's just as likely to rain in June, July, August as it is in May so holding it in spring rather than summer isn't really going to change much lol
@Ava C, I've seen them doing that in my pond too! It's so adorable and I had no idea they stayed around to keep an eye on the spawn until I saw it happening. The pond is situated where I can nosey at it from the window if the weather's poor so I'm always watching the fish/frogs getting up to whatever they enjoy getting up to. The budgies quite like watching the fish too (if there aren't any birds outside for them to yell "birdie!" at). I've only ever seen a couple of frogs at the same time, so I don't know whether it's a single breeding pair or whether I have different ones visit and I've only seen a maximum of two at a time. However many I have, there's always *loads* of spawn laid each year, the fish get a lot of it but I always see at least some of it hatch into tadpoles and I make sure I keep one end full of plants so they have plenty of hiding places. Fun fact: I hadn't had any frogs in the pond despite waiting patiently for a few years, then I saw the WTFs in a local reptile/phib rescue centre and couldn't resist getting them. About a month later, the wild frogs turned up, so it's a standing joke in our house that they heard the WTFs through the window one day (they can get LOUD) and decided to "join" them lol
(WTFs = White's Tree Frogs, I laughed so much when I realised that's honestly how most owners refer to them lol)
And for what it's worth, lunch is a Marmite sandwich on wholegrain bread with some raw mushrooms sliced into it just for fun, yummy :D
Is it a parallel with how, when we are bewildered by people whose declared identity is at odds with what we learned in biology, we are accused of yet another hate crime?
Does Intersectionality rule? Is it OK?
Regards BP and the posh tent reception, there are loos (toilets/lavatories) public ones accessible from the garden, these are used for the outdoor events. i.e. garden parties/outdoor events etc.
I had a sudden recollection of the wartime-type Elsans that were provided for Coronation Day, under our stand in Whitehall Gardens. These seemed to be everywhere in the 1950s - metal horrors containing a witches' brew of chemicals, heavy on formalin I'd say now but I didn't know what it was then. Made my eyes water. There are a few images of them on line, in old bunkers and so on.
They'd be used for fetes and at air shows, screened with sacking. Since then, I've had to use one in the 1970s (Barn dance - the Ladies was in a pony trailer behind the barn; the gents a wall of straw bales) and an Open Garden at a grand house in the 1990s.) Thank Heaven for the Portaloo!
The other `amenity' provided by the Ministry of Works on Coronation day was a Tea & Sandwich bar placed at a suitable distance from the loos. That was the first time I had tea from a paper cup - I'm sure it tasted of cardboard.
There was a PA system which played `Music While You Wait', a special variant of`Music While You Work', the BBC Light Programme motivational show to encourage productive factory work, and the Coronation Service itself.
I still find `Zadok the Priest' thrilling but the shouted acclamation of `Vivat! Vivat Regina Elizabetha!' was spine-tingling. The memory still is.
I still don't like tea in a paper cup. I also find it's often served in a tall glass these days, which I find exasperating. I can't pick it up.
The ones at BP are proper ones, no fancy decor though, not some some in hotels, just basic, and functional, so no photos!!
You won’t get tea served it a glass in Britain, we don’t go in for iced tea. 😜 I hate both paper cups and plastic cups for any hot drink, especially tea, bone china receptacle and nothing less ! 😳
I wish I had better memories of the only royal event I went to, which was Andrew and Fergie's wedding, I wasn't very old. I do remember lots of crowds, being absolutely petrified that the tube doors would close and split me from my parents, and a comment earlier (don't remember who from, sorry) regarding those cardboard "periscope" things triggered a memory of my dad adapting mine so we could try and take photos through it - we were way back in the crowd, and after the really exciting wait for them to get developed, we found all we'd managed was some blurry photos of some vague shapes on a distant balcony with an ugly black edging from the "periscope" lol not even sure if we kept them. I've been told we met and spoke to Billy Connolly in Green Park on that day, but I have zero recollection of it, which is a shame as I'd quite like to have remembered meeting someone famous lol
@Gloriosa, thank you!
The hide on that woman is astounding. She has some nerve challenging HMTQ. All her titles should be stripped off her immediately!
There's a new thread.
"I do what Vince does--by simply choosing to scroll past and NOT read tatty's comments. I recommend this to other Nutty readers/commenters."
Nutty's blog is like a sports team TV watching party for people and everyone is trying to watch their favorite and talk and have fun and there is somebody their from the rival team cheering and carrying on, They sound drunk and make disparaging comments for the rival. People try to overlook because the party's Host is not doing anything about the disruption rude behavior. Eventually and inevitably people get upset and barbs are exchanged and a fight breaks out. Would you like to sit watching your soccer team and this interloper is sitting there saying things against your team, even challenging your allegiance to your team and you try to sush them but they keep at it every time you are just being chill, and they keep being irritating, dominating the cheering for their own team while everyone is squirming in their seats. You look around for the Host thinking they will stop it but they are nowhere to be found. Some in the crowd lose their patience. If this happened in a private home, no fights break out but at the pub, this interloper would be tossed out on their ear, Yes @Eoywn you would sit there and have somebody bully you and you would just sit like a mushroom? Guess some guys stand up for their team and don't punk down when their team is disparaged.
Sorry but I don't feel like a mushroom, soft and easily squashed. I'm team 'Queen' and I will stand for her wherever and whatever way I can.
I love your remembrances! Especially of Coronation Day.
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@vince - you are so eloquent
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Hear hear!!
In her book The Little Princesses Crawfie (yes, that one) talked about taking Elizabeth and Margaret as young girls out for afternoons, traveling on the tube, shopping in Woolworth's and then stopping for tea. One line has always stuck with me, something like "Tea from somebody else's thick white cups, sandwiches you paid for yourself, these were wonderful treats."
It's a royal thing, i guess.
1) I really wanted this woman to be the *one* for Prince Harry.
2) As early as the engagement interview, I knew it wasn't going to happen. She was phoney, he was bamboozled. We may never know the ins and outs of this one.
3) The wedding was an embarrassment. Full stop.
4) The rest …. disrespecting the Queen, the obvious oversteps on other people's happiness, the 11-month "pregnancy"
5) The information coming to light that what she really wanted all along was $$$, with the cachet of the Royal Family's titles
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Conclusion -- WRONG answer for the Royal Family. I am savagely GLAD they are being gradually chipped of their ambitions.