If you throw a coin up in the air 100 times, you would expect it to come up "heads" somewhere in the area of 50 times, based on the laws of probability.
Life never goes as expected, of course, so in your real-life experiment, it's quite possible that heads would come up 40 times or 60 times.
On an unusual day, it might come up 30 or 70 times.
How, then, can it be that Meghan and Harry's coin comes up tails every single time?
It's statistically improbable, almost impossible, but they never seem to do anything right.
Own goals
Having been away from the Sussex story for awhile due to a work-related focus on the US presidential election, I quickly skimmed developments from the past week or two and found myself shaking my head at fiasco after fiasco.
Harry's made the most prominent own goals - from popping up on a lowbrow reality show (Britain's "Strictly Come Dancing"), to a self-pitying PR campaign about how the Royals refused to leave a Remembrance Day memorial wreath on his behalf, to bringing a celebrity photographer to a graveyard on Veterans' Day to shoot him looking solemn and wearing all his (mostly) unearned but shiny decorations.
Meghan was, comparatively, less obnoxious, although one has to assume her advice was behind some of Harry's dumb initiatives.
Little hope for PR hires
Meghan's media instincts are reliably bad, which means there's not much hope for her latest PR hire Christine Schirmer, a "top PR" woman with a cv that includes roles at Pinterest and Apple.
Since Meg is known for being unwilling to listen to advice, why such a supposedly successful PR presence would want to work with the Sussexes - and how they will get the money to pay her - is an open question.
(There's also the possibility that this particular hire may be one of those empty suits that goes from corporation role to corporation role, interviewing well enough to land top jobs but failing to produce much.
Schirmer has a remarkably empty LinkedIn profile for a woman working in the tech industry in San Francsico, and even her Pinterest page is meager, considering she worked there for 6 years.
She did attend Meghan's university, and online databases describe her as 44 years old, the same age Meghan is rumored to be. Some reports say they were members of the same sorority; could they have known each other at university?)
Magic bullet
A few stories about the PR hire suggest that Meg knows the Sussexes are no longer a "golden couple" (if they ever were) and that they will have to work harder to attract attention.
Yet strangely, they still seem reluctant to bring out their "magic bullet" which would guarantee them some immediate positive publicity - their son Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, supposedly around 18 months old right now, and entirely unseen for at least six months.
Why is that? And why are there never any signs of Archie in the Sussexes' multiple videos from home?
As many other media parents working from home have discovered, children do tend to turn up in work-from-home online appearances.
Not only does Archie never appear and is never heard in the background, but there are no stray toys, crayoned walls, or juice stains on the white furniture, the sort of things with which parents of "real" children are quite familiar.
If the Sussexes want a publicity "win", or at least something resembling one, their best approach is probably to bring out Archie.
If they can.
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“ . William knows that his brother can be hot-headed and understands that it is something he felt very strongly about. Privately, he shares a lot of the sentiments he and Meghan expressed as, make no mistake, she was very involved in the statement too. But he believes it was wrong to make his feelings so public.”
Jesus Christ.
Catching up on the overnight posts but this is what I found:
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/duchess-meghans-half-brother-asks-the-queen-to-resolve-family-feud/
@Not MM
this woman has money to burn and they'd be happy to burn hers for her...
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Yes... Except that the money is probably either from Charles or the good old British taxpayer.
Perhaps the RF reckons that to strip these away would only give H&M another stick with which to beat them? Doing nothing may be the lesser of two evils.
Let's not worry yet about risk of H becoming king - if it came to that, his mental state might be poor enough to eliminate him, insofar as he may be judged to lack the capacity to do the job. Mental illness, brain damage or innate lack of intellectual ability would normally be the proof of this so perhaps having his mind taken over by someone else, especially someone who is not a friend of Britain, would be a bar.
Even we ordinary folk have to understand what we're doing to make valid contracts, wills, or to sign documents for a Power of Attorney. The Law tries to protect us from being manipulated into signing away our rights and assets.
As for Archie, regardless of who's the Daddy, I'm sure he can't take the throne either. Not to put too fine a point on it, it wouldn't be the first time there have been Royal b*****ds (term used non-judgementally!) - one lost his head. (Duke Of Monmouth d.1685).
I'm not sure how Andrew could be passed over, unless not having `the consent of the people' would be enough - that would be for the Parliament to decide. After all, there were questions about the suitability of Prince Albert (George VI) in 1936.
Beatrice is next in line.
It's all hypothetical anyway.
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My thoughts have gone back to the possibility of divorce for the H$Ms - I wonder if the RF holds a `get-out-of-jail-for-free' card? It's back to the question of the validity of the marriage in the first place.
For a bride to be pregnant by one man, in the conventional way, and then con another into marriage is a no-no. It's lumbering a chap with having to bring up another bloke's sprog. I think it counts as Fraud.
I wonder what the position is with regard to surrogacy? I agree that H was deeply shocked by the news (`Is it mine?'). I wonder what, if anything, the Human Fertilisation & Embryology Act (HFEA) has to say about it?
Was it news of successful implantation into a surrogate that prompted her change of mind about accepting the £37 million she was reported to have been offered to go away?
Her alleged rate for `keeping gentlemen company' was $500 dollars an hour. The offer of a `modest' £37 million (approx. $40m at today's exchange rate) may have represented enough hours of `horizontal work' to have been worth considering.
News of a child being on the way could have lead to a swift recalculation - did she decide it was more profitable to go ahead with the marriage and screw the RF for cash long-term?
(I did read that the £37m was subsequently earmarked for the divorce settlement - I can see that sum being hotly contested in view of what she thinks she's worth)
If, and it's a big if, the marriage can be argued as non-existent in the first place, there may be hope. No divorce needed, marriage is dissolved.
I don't know what Statute Law (as laid down by Parliament) says about such a situation but we also have Case Law, in which a judge may interpret the legal wording in a particular case and that becomes a precedent for the future...
Repeat - this is only speculation and opinion. I'd be grateful for a qualified legal opinion.
re: Praying Mantis dress or should that be renamed prying mantis dress now that it's been rumoured they have secret tapings or footage of their final year in the RF.
I'm clearly alone in actually liking some aspects of that dress - I normally love green and I don't dislike the cape. But the fabric combined with that colour is truly awful and looks like it's been ripped off a snooker table. And as ever it doesn't actually fit well although that's probably due to Meghans affinity for badly fitting underwear.
Another f*** you dress that stood out for me was the military red garb that she wore for Harry's last event with the Royal Marines, I'm just surprised she didn't put epaulettes on it to really match her husbands and to spend the evening handholding is just so teenage and juvenile it's embarrassing. Not professional in any stretch of the imagination.
But then her wedding dress looked like it was made with upholstery fabric better suited on a sofa.
Swampwoman - great to see your love for the Ukulele Orchestra, they are fab, I got tickets last year to see them in Croydon (UK) but unfortunately was ill so couldn't go.
There's nobody buried under the war memorials of of the UK, as far as I know. They are symbolic - the very name `Cenotaph' means `Empty Tomb' - yet wreaths are laid there. Nobody thought the original Whitehall Cenotaph was disrespectful, although it was intended to be temporary and made of plywood. Only later was it built in Portland stone.
Poor streets in English towns and cities often installed wall memorials/street shrines to honour the dead of the First War, since `pals' regiments of men who lived and worked together often joined up together - and were wiped out together. The residents clubbed together to pay for them; these were families which would often impoverish themselves to give their their dead a `good send off'.
There used to be many such shrines in the East End of London but they were probably destroyed in the Second War. Here are some survivors elsewhere:
http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Exeter/ExeterStOlavesShrinePage1.htm
http://www.northstoneham.org.uk/warshrine/history/movement.html
Bear in mind that in the 2nd WW., aircrew killed in downed aircraft over Britain often left so few remains that their coffins might contain little more than stones to an appropriate weight. That preserved the dignity of the funeral and spared their relatives the anguish of realisation.
I believe that what matters is that acts of remembrance should be sincere, whether or not the remains are still there. I see the locations as sanctified regardless. It is the perceived ulterior motive that makes the Harkles performance so grotesque.
`Prying mantis' - that's a good one.
Did she want the palace to defend her very expensive baby shower? I read on Quora that she was told it wasn't appropriate so she went to the States instead. No idea if this is true.
People threw things at Cam. There was a advertisement on a bus that made fun of Kate. I don't think either one was granted a press conference to defend themselves.
She has used her Zoom calls for such purposes. We know she likes manifestos. Maybe anything less than that was unacceptable to her.
You are so right about her horrible green dress and Cape and hat.
Bad taste is not curable. By the way I don't believe she had any visible recording equipment on her. Modern technology can be fit into a pin head, it certainly doesn't involve bulky devices and cables any more.
No, the bumps and creases we saw on her is her old nemesis - the ill fitting clothes that are wrong for her body shape.
I am a total fangirl, and green with envy (but so sorry you could not make it).
I, too, love the "prying mantis" nickname!
Agree with your fashion commentary.
And am laughing at the stated thoughts of Mr NotMM — I think he has her well figured out. Mr AnT has had a similar reaction. We never talk about them. He passed the television once when up popped a clip of her and H on some program in the green mantis garb. Mr AnT said as he moved smoothly and quickly through the room, looking at his iPhone, barely glancing up, “That w**** STILL around?” Succinct. Not his usual turn of phrase, either, so that was a high level, situation critical, dig from him.
Thanks to all Nutties! I read all the time.
"Perhaps if we regard the CWGC headstones as memorials it's not disrespectful to the dead to lay flowers there if it's a true act of remembrance?
There's nobody buried under the war memorials of of the UK, as far as I know."
I think the difference is, (as you point out) The Cenotaph at Whitehall and many war "memorials" ARE known to be memorials. The obelisk in LA where Harry supposedly placed a wreath on a stand to commemorate dead and living service people doesn't claim to be a personal gravesite either much less a gravesite where a previously-buried body has been removed but the inscribed personal headstone carelessly and accidentally left in place due to human error and "memorialized" by computer.
And, of course, sometimes in war or violent deaths, there's not much to bury. People also chose cremation over burying bodies. A set of cremains from an individual may be divided and placed in several areas. My comment had nothing to do with any of that.
If Harry's act was sincere, that's fine. My comment about disrespect and empty graves was more about the author of the Harry Markle blog claiming in print those two LA Commonwealth graves-- the only two Commonwealth graves in the entire cemetery so easily identifiable by name---were empty with headstones accidentally left in place because the bodies were moved. But in fact, evidence suggests that's probably not the case! It was just a rumor started by an American friend, apparently to make H&M look bad. I think that's disrespectful to the dead.
People often do care about the location of loved ones' earthly remains. Surviving family members wouldn't float wreaths at Pearl Harbor on December 7 to remember those still entombed under the sea if that wasn't true. We wouldn't disinter remains of MIAs to bring them home--sometimes many decades later-- if that wasn't the case.
It’s interesting the MOS just filed this tactic, were they waiting for the appropriate moment to bring out this aspect of their defense?
OR could KP/ grey suits/ possibly dropped the nugget to the MOS? after all that person Gavin or whoever, worked for the Sussexes, got fired and then moved over to the KP/ Cambriedge team. weren’t the Sussexes all top secret on every move they made and tried to keep the grey suits/ BP from knowing their machinations, yet they trusted the team they brought on themselves , versus not trusting any planted suits? im specuulating, but perhaps the guy that got burned by the Sussuexes and hired by the Cambridges let on that MM didnt write the letter on her own and there was KP participation?
it amuses me to thiink KP would plant that defense to the MOS
I agree with you that the bodies may not have been moved. The CWGC, under whose aegis such graves normally fall, has a principle of not repatriating remains - all dead are treated equally, nobody is given individual treatment. The cemetery is not, of course, a CWGC one and I haven't seen the details (yet) of the headstones in question to tell if they are in fact CWGC ones.
More research required to establish the facts. It's very strange.
I deplore what the Harkles did. It smacks play-acting, of an `art happening' to me - has she taken a cue from Yoko?
She knew how to play him since the beginning. Her plan worked and is still working. That being said, I believe they deserve each other and are both users. She’s using hapless for obvious reasons and he’s using her both to get away and back at his family. If anything, he’s worse because he’s hiding behind her letting her take the blame. She has been vilified over megxit which she has been willing to allow because it feeds her narrative and reinforces her victim status.
As for Archie, her strategy has been quite simple: hold back as much as possible and build suspens and then sell to the highest bidder (Netflix). I believe she was pregnant and gave birth to their son. I don’t believe she has a single maternal bone in her body. She subjected herself to pregnancy and childbirth to assert her unique role in JH’s life. It’s quite normal for a man to become (more) protective of the woman carrying his unborn child. Didn’t they launch Sussex Royal and plotted to leave while she was expecting? During these months, she was very powerful and persuasive.
She constantly cupped her belly on purpose. She squeezed herself into non maternity clothes. She squatted so she would show us how fit and incredibly brave she is. She kept her due date a secret and lied regarding the birth announcement. She knew exactly what she was doing. She fueled the surrogacy rumors (which are quite common in celebrity world). She wants people to speculate so she could always be in the news AND say she’s being trolled while pregnant and as “a young mother”. What better way to get under Hapless’s skin other than subject his son to the paternity doubts he himself has been suffering from (James Hewitt comes to mind).
Every move is calculated but her narcissistic personality prevents her from recognizing that she cannot fool everyone all the time.
That leaves everything open –
Were the bodies ever buried there?
Are they still there?
Were they repatriated, with or without the knowledge of the CWGC?
Is either of the stones a memorial rather than a gravestone? Captain Setliffe had a sister in Nashville, it appears.
If we knew where they died, we might have an answer. It's possible their final resting places are unknown.
I believe she was pregnant and gave birth to their son. I don’t believe she has a single maternal bone in her body. She subjected herself to pregnancy and childbirth to assert her unique role in JH’s life. It’s quite normal for a man to become (more) protective of the woman carrying his unborn child. Didn’t they launch Sussex Royal and plotted to leave while she was expecting? During these months, she was very powerful and persuasive.
I think the whole world was happy for Harry at the prospect of him becoming a father. He had said on record that he couldn't wait to have kids, and seemed quite wistful of William's family life. We have photos and video of him being adorable with children. When Meg was expecting (I will use this word, because regardless of how Archie may have come to be, it's true that a baby was expected), Harry went to a YMCA ballet class and made a beeline for an infant girl sitting on her mom's lap and his interaction with her was very cute. Harry at that time didn't seem strained or nervous or that there was anything untoward with Meg's pregnancy. He was getting his wish!--and the couple seemed to be hoping for a daughter. Meghan herself seemed definite that it *was* a girl, based on her 'I feel the embryonic kicking of feminism' comment. This from the very least feminist person we know. Exploiting one's sexuality for money from wealthy men is the very opposite of feminism, but moving on . .
It was quite a shock, then, when Archie came out a boy. We'd seen so much pink at that ridiculous NYC shower. Certainly Meg would have had a gender scan by then, were she actually carrying. I have to say, as you have probably read here already that I have been on Team Moonbump since December 5, 2018, when she turned up for her first solo engagement as the Duchess with a square and lumpy stomach and proceeded to whinge to elderly people in their 80s and 90s about how very pregnant she felt. She was at the end of month 4, allegedly. That was the moment for me. Of course she did not require a huge maternity coat at Eugenie's wedding if she was only three months in, but in Australia, I suspected that Meg was using padding to make herself look like she was showing more than she was. In Fiji, in the blue dress that I otherwise thought was the most flattering thing she's ever worn, her belly looked to be at least 5 months along. Word began to filter out about their behavior on that tour and that perhaps Hazza was not entirely on board with this, or was seemingly unaware that he could have impregnated his wife. Maybe that's why separate rooms were insisted upon? Bringing a moonbump wardrobe on tour was risky . . how to hide those in the luggage from her staff? I've always wondered if the hapless staffer who got hot tea thrown at her, or the female RPO that quit directly after the tour perhaps incited Narc rage by inadvertently walking in on Meg while in the process of strapping on Bump. If they'd seen that, they'd have absolutely had to go.
You bring up some insightful points here. I struggle with understanding why, if she were legitimately pregnant with Harry's baby, a Royal baby, and counting on a title and oodles of boodle for selling pictures of him/her--the child is *ONLY* of interest to other people because (if) he is Royal. As precious as all babies are, only celebrity sells magazines and fashion, or else every mum would be fending off paparazzi on the daily. It was not in Meg's interest AT ALL, if she were legitimately pregnant with a Windsor heir, to have doubt cast upon the blessed event . . upon her pregnancy or her marital fidelity. This is what mystifies me . . but then, I don't have a serious personality disorder. Meg thrives on chaos and the way she conducted her pregnancy certainly created that. She'd rather the whole world speculate on whether she presented a plastic baby to the Queen of England than show us wholesome proof that her baby exists, and he's in her care.
She will not rake in money off Archie now, no matter how long she waits. She has exhausted people's interest by her constant shenanigans. If the Harkles manage to actually produce something for Netflix, will it feature Archie? Will it be a disaster of epic proportions? I guess either way, the ratings will be boffo.
As to keeping Harry off-balance about his paternity and twisting that knife of the gossip over his own paternity in the wound--Evil is the only word for that, and if she can do that (which she surely can) then she is capable of anything. Including infanticide out of jealous rage and so this is why I pray fervently that they don't have a child. Because if they do, his life will be RUINED. Ruined. He will land in an institution or prison with two parents like these.
Even allowing that Meg is very fair for someone of her heritage, I do not believe that it is genetically likely that given what her natural hair looked like as a child, that the child we have been presented with as Archie would have such super fine flyaway blond duck hair. A rust colored Afro would be much more likely, or at the very least some evidence of curl.
Good points in both your posts.
The database for the Canadian I linked in an earlier post said "buried" while there could be "memorial" wiggle room for the Austrailian. Regardless, because space is at a premium at many veterans cemeteries in the US, I do not believe individual "memorial stones" are allowed when the body is placed elsewhere. Here is some info about memorial stones https://www.va.gov/burials-memorials/memorial-items/headstones-markers-medallions/
Memorial stones must say "In Memory Of"
Are available for no body situations only if "remains are missing, not identified, donated to science, buried at sea, or scattered." There is no provision for "we decided to move him somewhere else."
And in the case of these two people, one died in LA at age 61 in 1946 -- his war service was in WWI. So it wasn't a matter of incomplete remains to bury due to war. The other died during WWII but of an accident in California. (Both are in CA death index)
Here are the "find a grave" photos of their stones. Neither stone says In Memory Of.
Australian
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13398478/ronald-william-scott
Note: This photo was taken and uploaded in 2007, 63 years after the serviceman's death.
Canadian
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/3751304/william-quayle-setliffe
Perhaps it doesn't matter. But I'm not sure why an "American friend" of the Harry Markle blog author would know the graves were empty and would know H&M going there was due to a "computer error" or rushed computer search. It's also kind of shocking war dead are handled so carelessly if, in fact, it's true that the computer info is wrong and so are the headstones. There must be thousands and thousands of mistakes in the system if H&M stumbled across 2 without trying. So suggesting carelessness if it doesn't exist is bad.
I think the 'prove it's your copyright' was saved until now. They don't want a summary judgement, they want to go to trial. And if it's a summary judgment, it could be in ANL's favor due to lack of evidence it's her copyright. Then she has to pay their costs.
She's in a bad situation with the case right now unless she has full proof evidence. She has to rush to defend herself, and present her electronic communications which she was also trying to avoid.
ANL has proven they will get the last word.
“It was quite a shock, then, when Archie came out a boy. We'd seen so much pink at that ridiculous NYC shower.”
I think it was part of her shenanigans: make people think we’re having a girl. She seems very immature and quite silly. But, she knows how to keep others talking and speculating about her. She lives for this. And in a way I was relieved she had a boy. Narcissistic mothers are far more cruel with their daughters than with their sons.
“If the Harkles manage to actually produce something for Netflix, will it feature Archie? Will it be a disaster of epic proportions? I guess either way, the ratings will be boffo.”
I agree about the ratings. I also believe they will show Archie. Maybe it will be a FaceTime with baby when both his parents left him in Canada and came back to Frogmore? With a tearful Megatron missing her baby boy and “can’t wait to hug you” kind of a speech?
“ As to keeping Harry off-balance about his paternity and twisting that knife of the gossip over his own paternity in the wound--Evil is the only word for that, and if she can do that (which she surely can) then she is capable of anything. Including infanticide out of jealous rage and so this is why I pray fervently that they don't have a child. Because if they do, his life will be RUINED. Ruined. He will land in an institution or prison with two parents like these.”
She is evil. She has no moral compass and I think she is capable of anything to get what she wants. She seems deranged and acts like one. Motherhood means nothing to her. Narcissists do not love anyone else, not even their own flesh and blood. Hapless and his son are in for a very rough life. She will ruin them. I feel sorry for their child with parents like these two and he will grow up to be a very damaged young man. This is why, in a way, I don’t like to speculate about his existence and/or birth. I know that some day he will be old enough to read all of this on the internet. Hopefully, Archie will remain an only child.
It reminds me of those people who get brainwashed by cults.
Even allowing that Meg is very fair for someone of her heritage, I do not believe that it is genetically likely that given what her natural hair looked like as a child, that the child we have been presented with as Archie would have such super fine flyaway blond duck hair. A rust colored Afro would be much more likely, or at the very least some evidence of curl.
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On the face of it, yes. However, I knew someone who was very white with red hair and the grey green eyes that often go with red hair and had two children with a mixed race (black/white) man. Both children looked white, had blond hair and blue eyes (and were his!) but will have black genes so could have dark-ish skinned children themselves.
If he grows up and reads the level headed perspective that is presented here time and time again, it might help him learn to cope and not feel lonely. It might help his therapy sessions.
I can't see how anything we are writing here is harmful to Archie in anyway. Everyone wants to know the truth, and he will too.
The poor kids life is already a circus of mystery and oddball parenting spanning 3 countries, without extended family while his primary family engages in the pursuit of entertainment careers.
Highly unstable and unnecessary environment.
He needs all the help he can get.
Re Archie : the Duck Rabbit video gave me CPS supervised visit vibes...
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Yeah, that was my first thought, also. Sad, isn't it.
Interesting theory from an anon on the other blog (don't normally read it but for some reason I did). Any who, the date of October 15 2021 or later was specified in the request for postponement (or so it is said). The date coincides with the last day to pay US income taxes for 2020. As individuals, The Harkles would have to be paying taxes quarterly on their income (to include from Chuckles) or risk penalty. Penalties can include having your passport withheld until taxes are paid.
Have zero idea if the above is reasonable much less true but thought it was an interesting theory that one would want to keep confidential......
"And in the case of these two people, one died in LA at age 61 in 1946 -- his war service was in WWI. So it wasn't a matter of incomplete remains to bury due to war. The other died during WWII but of an accident in California. (Both are in CA death index)"
I puzzled over Capt. Setliffe's tablet. Did he serve in WW2 as well as WW1? The photo implies he did - he's in uniform, as an older man. Did he linger, dying of injuries well after the war's end? (I found a record saying he died on Christmas Day 1946.)
A sad and dreadful business.
Trust the Harkles to raise more questions than answers. They are incapable of doing anything right.
"I puzzled over Capt. Setliffe's tablet. Did he serve in WW2 as well as WW1? The photo implies he did - he's in uniform, as an older man. Did he linger, dying of injuries well after the war's end? (I found a record saying he died on Christmas Day 1946.)"
It is a bit of a mystery. He does look older in his photo and may be in uniform. But the gravestone seems to list WWI only. (I have bad eyesight but I've blown the photo up. Is that what you see?) On the other hand, using the CWGC.Org site brings both men up when the WWII box is checked and Los Angeles National Cemetery is searched for and neither man comes up when only WWI is checked.
Still, he married an American woman in 1914. She and his two children (born in 1915 and 1922) are all buried in the US (Indiana, Illinois, and Florida, not together in a "family plot.") His wife's gravestone on "find a grave" lists her married name (his name, not a new hubby's.) So it is a bit hard to imagine the immediate family would have decided to move his body to Canada sometime after he was buried in LA in 1946.
I'd still like to know how the American friend of the HMB author purportedly came by the "both graves are empty/both bodies were moved to their home countries" info.
Thanks for being willing to puzzle it out with me as much as possible.
The more I reflected on this, the more it occurred to me how correct it probably is. Meghan wants fame. From the blinds, we know Meghan wants around $2MM for an Archie spread in a Magazine. She feels it's her due, even though she is not the famous person in the relationship with Harry.
The timeline is suspect. Meghan marries Harry swiftly, after barely knowing the guy 18 months. Meghan_did not_know Harry when she met and dated him. They were very, very long distance with many commitments on either side of the Atlantic. She was working full-time until their engagement. He was a full-time working Royal. They were each other's holiday hook-up, and perhaps, drug-fueled escape.
We've seen what is said about Meghan by anyone who knew her pre-Harry. We've heard the stories of impolite and rude behavior, the ghosting, and socially appalling behind-the-scenes scandals. Meghan was a known hustler.
The summer after their May marriage, Meghan falls pregnant with the baby they pretended was a girl, for controversy sake. Which, conveniently was more ammunition for the ensnaring and mind control of Harry. "Harry, we need to pretend we are having a girl, for privacy sake!" "Follow me, Harry because I know best."
Meghan learns she cannot Merch this Royal baby. She cannot sell photographs. She is going to present the baby to the Rota, as she is required to do and is tradition.
Meghan plots her way back to the US, as she feels she is owed millions for Archie. She pretends to Harry that Archie's privacy is her perogative, but we all know it is not. Meghan has multiple versions of herself like any opportunist narc: what she sells Harry, and her own agenda, which are two different objectives with an extremely wide gulf.
So she runs back to America within months of the birth, hoping to break away and sell Archie to the highest bidder. She will get that money, then maybe go back to the BRF, half-in half-out, and other suggestions that leave the door open to easy immense wealth without a boss.
She gets away, but not quite fast enough. The BRF gives them two months to fulfill their obligations and events, then the year review starts. The BRF controls the purse strings, so they have to comply. Archie is not for sale, still, and COVID hits.
Meghan's plans are falling apart before her eyes. Whether she stares the reality in the face or not. Enter PR overdrive.
My question is...at the end of the review period, can Meghan then Merch Archie? Is this the hang up?
"Fine, leave the BRF permanently (at the review when it is decided) and merch Archie, but that's all you will be able to do at this point. No halvsies, no titles, just you and your lame ideas." - KP communications team to Meghan.
Now Archie is about two years old, no longer a baby, and Meghan is pushing 40 publicly.
Archies initial value, and Meghan's grand plans fall to the wayside. Enter Netflix. Is this why the documentary is expected next year? How will that garner ANY interest?
I still think Meghan and Harry aren't ready to face what the year review final deal is going to be. I don't think they will be able to go through with it, from a strictly financial perspective.
But yes, after reflection I could see this whole soap opera come down to Meghan just trying to merch a baby. She is really that simple.
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Thank you for sharing this.
Memories of the “Archie photo” from last year (of little girl in pom hat, held by H in Turkey).
Slews of this drivel.
So she is now the new Martha Stewart? A loving daughter again? Angling for a foodie show?
Heavy foot on the gooey PR pedal. Panic?
I smell the work of lightweight new staffers with puffed-up CVS and low intellect, whose typical level is the most insipid mommy blogs.
The wheels are coming off fast.
;) LoL
Are they really bringing up news from 4 years ago??? They need to get real. She was in fact Royal. She is not relatable.
What happened to the tech platform? And movie career? And merching? And, where's Harry?
Crock, Schlock the Two Touting Ferals
They’ve changed the locks at Kensington Palace
Since Peter Pan went down with Malice
Malice has married that silly lost boy
But life as a Royal doesn’t give her much joy
Says Malice
@AnT/NMM
Spit Roasted
Olive Oyl and Hartha Blewit
Toast?
Yes, old news. Old photos. Old boring recipes. Ridiculous. Are the new staff trying to erase the royal years, telling her that the best ber is that she needs to pick up where she left off as the “sexy” Suits cast member and blogger? You know, four years ago when she was 25, versus her current 42 year old failed royal, rat poison self.
Do they think this will work? That we have global amnesia? One picture of 2003 purple berry juice, and we will be so amazed? The articles hawk stuff like her favorite protein powder too —— trying to wring those merching coins out!
The pretense of running a mommy daddy story from years ago when she has since treated TM like dirt and subjected him to this lawsuit, is the most bizarre aspect. Her mind seems so bent. No sense of impropriety, no shame.....I am guessing the staff isn’t exactly top tier. And none of them has seen Archie, or even Harry
Magatha,
Loving these! Spit Roasted! Olive Oyl and Hartha Blewit! Ha!!!
What’s puzzling is that she keeps hiring new people but has been oh so faithful to Sunshine Sachs since her divorce from Trevor. Why is that?
Well, we know the 'lets forget about Meghan being 40ish, unattractive, and oh look there she was in her prime, with a family she now hates, oh interesting!' it's like mentally ill PR.
Seriously. If this is what she's drumming up, through Hello! I am gobsmacked. The most interesting part about Meghan's life is that she married Prince freaking Harry, devalued him, and ran to California. That's it.
Meghan, if you're needing help. Call us. Blink twice in your video. We are embarrassed for you.
She's annoying AF, but I don't think her situation should be this hard to recover from (if I'm being nice). Like, this is easy stuff. Basically, risk management. Meghan, seriously, reach out. Lol. Can't say no one tried to help now girl.
She lost most of her public interest when she didn't even stay in Commonwealth Canada. I think that is their biggest mistake imo.
How much do we think Charles gives them? The RF is all gifts and stuff, credit accounts, so where do we think Mega and Harry stand financially right now.
They could be raking it in, but screwed it all up so badly. They need to stop expecting the general public to be interested in their story to sell stuff, and try a different biz now. They've gone too far off the deep end of Tack.
Both I and my other half were ROFL - pure genius! Thank you.
(I'm old enough to remember `Nursery Singsong' on Tuesday's Children's Hour (BBC Home Service) with `Auntie Vi 'on the piano. That is, Violet Carson, aka Ena Sharples! Happy days!)
I shall be singing your verse all day... with all the drumbeats too.
The review period of a year ... a fiction created by the Sussexes so they can hold onto the royal connection, swanning back to the UK for dress up high profile events. The tabloids have created the illusion that it is a fact.
In one of her press releases, the Queen referred to a transition period, in which time the Sussexes would divide their time between Canada and the UK. This was January to end of March this year and that is what happened. They were still officially full-time senior working royals and still received funding from the Sovereign Grant and still had an office at BP. Their security was being funded by the UK and Canada.
Patronages and honorary positions would be theirs to keep or step down from, and the Queen left that decision up to the Sussexes and the organizations themselves. That Harry's positions in the military were suspended and both their positions in the QCT were retained are odd, but perhaps not if they told the lie that they would be dividing their time between the UK and a Commonwealth country such as Canada. I think the Queen wanted to soften the blow for Harry but I think she knew that there is no way back for him as a working royal. The coronavirus then soon dominated the world, Harry and Meghan fled to Los Angeles (I bet they told no one about those plans), and the Sussex problem in reality slid way down the list of importance for the monarch, the BRF, and those organizations that the Sussexes are still connected to via patronages and ceremonial positions.
There is no 12-month review period. For whatever reason, perhaps compassion and nostalgia, his ceremonial military positions would be suspended for a year before he was replaced.
I think the Queen was far too lenient and should have insisted on a clean break. I can imagine Harry being emotional and throwing a tantrum and the Queen delaying the clean break to appease him, out of love and compassion. I also think the Sussexes were not honest about their plans.
Their days of being royal are over. The only public royal event Harry will be allowed to attend will be funerals, and perhaps weddings, if he is invited. Will he ever appear on the balcony again, because that is an event where the Queen invites her extended family?
Military for Harry, tied into a cool celebrity image.
Family and home and domesticity for Meghan.
Are there enough stupid people in the world to go along with this cynical and ridiculous nonsense?
Kate Middleton is the number one royal style icon, according to research conducted by online fashion platform Farfetch.
The Duchess of Cambridge, 38, who is known for her love of high street brands and clever colour combinations, was the only royal included in the top 10 list compiled by the luxury website.
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Kate came second on the list, Victoria Beckham being first (a moot point). The list if of the Europeans' top 10 style icons so MM wouldn't have been included - not that she would have made the list anyway - but she'll be spitting feathers.
Prince Harry cuts a casual figure in jeans and a face mask as he hands out fresh fruit and produce while volunteering for non-profit foundation which provides COVID-19 support for veterans and their families.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8961197/Prince-Harry-spotted-volunteering-non-profit-foundation.html
If we're right that he's holed up in the US because of visa/green card issues, I must learn to be thankful that we've been given a period of grace.
Harry really doesn't appear to get it so far as COVID, hygiene and face masks are concerned. I know masks certainly are not the panecea some folks seem to claim they are. But during the pandemic we've seen him photographed wearing a bandana face covering, wearing a mask slipping below his nostrils, coughing in his hand, wiping it on his shirt, and then handling a food bag to be delivered to an immuno-compromised person, and now he's wearing a face mask with at least one, probably two "breathing" vents.
Remember last spring when he and Meghan claimed they were going to provide their followers with up-to-date COVID information?
@Miggy
He is beyond pathetic and truly shameless. After their fiasco at the military cemetery, who thought it would be a good idea for him to continue exploiting any association with veterans and their families?? Who’s advising them?? Sunshine Sachs?? This PR agency is beyond shady!
Apologies if already posted...
Prince Harry cuts a casual figure in jeans and a face mask as he hands out fresh fruit and produce while volunteering for non-profit foundation which provides COVID-19 support for veterans and their families.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8961197/Prince-Harry-spotted-volunteering-non-profit-foundation.html
ROFL. Apparently, he can't even be trusted to hold a bag.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165593/Queen-snaps-American-PR-hotshot-Sara-Latham-cut-loose-Harry-Meghan.html
@Miggy, Thanks for the link.
Harry really doesn't appear to get it so far as COVID, hygiene and face masks are concerned. I know masks certainly are not the panecea some folks seem to claim they are. But during the pandemic we've seen him photographed wearing a bandana face covering, wearing a mask slipping below his nostrils, coughing in his hand, wiping it on his shirt, and then handling a food bag to be delivered to an immuno-compromised person, and now he's wearing a face mask with at least one, probably two "breathing" vents.
Well, it does look as though nobody is letting him touch anything, and he appears to be far away from anybody. Oh, snap, no, he's touching a bag. *sigh* At least it's in the sunlight.
I've slept in clothes that looked better in the morning than that shirt. He looks like one of the homeless in dire need of food and clothing. Somebody needs to get him a good meal and some clean clothes.
Lizzie, I wouldn't worry much about the vents. Since he's sporting a beard, he wouldn't get a good seal on the mask anyway. Mask theater.
All over the tabloids about 5 days after it happened ...
The new image Megsy and her team are creating for Harry is not royal and it is not British. Royals would do an engagement such as this, but with a link to the organization and lots of photos and publicity to get attention and support for the organization. Megsy and her team of PR and media people have no idea about what being royal us and how to market a prince. Without the team of courtiers, Harry is lost.
How did he cope with the plastic bags? The Sussexes have a lot to say about their beliefs and what they think is right ... until it is inconvenient for a photo op or Zoom appearance.
Will Harry's family please send a crack team to kidnap Harry and Archie, deprogramme them, and then let them live quietly in the countryside of England, protected and shielded from the grifting hustler!
Their days of being royal are over. The only public royal event Harry will be allowed to attend will be funerals, and perhaps weddings, if he is invited. Will he ever appear on the balcony again, because that is an event where the Queen invites her extended family?
If I were the bride and the subject of inviting Harry and his not-so-blushing bride came up, the answer would be not only no, but HELL, no. Can you imagine trying to walk up the aisle when everybody is staring in morbid fascination at Meghan and her triple-wide stomach which she is cupping desperately to hold it in place and proclaiming that this time it is triplet girls? (And Harry is passed out in the seat beside her, where he is either about to expire from embarrassment or a drug overdose?) Nope, nope, nope.
JH handing out food - knew one or both would be doing this. I read that Brad Pitt was helping hand out food and thought that surely they (JH&M) would be doing this soon (if only because they haven't done food in a while).
I really cannot express how aghast that I am that their PR thinks that it is appropriate to take advantage of somebody's misery with job loss and poverty for a photo op about their saintliness in handing out food (which they didn't donate) to the poor.
https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisshipitv?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Justice Warby comes across as biased and puts the petulant demands of Megsy above all other considerations.
She has missed the third deadline for handing over her emails and messages, and there have been no consequences.
LOL! My day draws to an end as yours starts ... I wave back, facing north west and probably completely missing the mark and connecting with some bewildered person in Surinam!
We had a taste of summer a few days ago with 40 degrees Celsius (just as I like it), but the change of seasons is in the flirtation stage and we are back to 19 degrees Celsius today, so blanky out to warm the feet!
Tyt (and the tyt network) began in 2002. I became aware of TYT during the 2016 elections when i was following Bernie's progress and they were the only media willing to cover him extensively and forensically. AOC was a volunteer for the campaign. When Bernie lost, they put their weight behind Hilary. When she lost, they came out and their defacto leader, Cenk Urghur, actually held a rally in Washington ( i think) at which he announced the newly formed Justice Democrats group and their intent to primary every establishment Democrat (their description of the Dems in the Hilary wing of the party) in the entire country with intention of replacing them all.
To that end they supported and promoted anyone who signed up to their manifesto. AOC and the Squad as well as people like Ro Khanna are all Justice Dems who were elected in 2018. AOC and the squad are their most famous candidates. Funnily enough they also supported Stacy Abrams and Andrew Gilum because they courted JD during their gubernatorial races. Liz Warren and Mayor Pete also courted them during their presidential race run.
However, after the 2018 election, there was a split within the JD movement. TYT received money from Clinton affliated pacs and billionaires and have since swang their support to more establishment Dems and their political narratives. They still rattle the chains eg the recent op ed by Cenk in NYTimes or AOC's social media, but when you look at the voting record and what they support when it counts, it's the same positions as the establishment dems.
The more prominent members of JD who disagreed with the new direction soon left before or after 2018. That includes Dave Rubin, Jimmy Dore and Kyle Kulinski (founding member of JD) and Jordan Chariton- all 4 have youtube channels which offer views closer to the original idea of the JD though Dave Rubin has since crossed the aisle altogether and is now a registered R.
I find TYT and JD as it stands today unbearable because it appears to have devolved into a smearing, false information operation, but i always watch the other 4 channels because they offer interesting views politically even if i disagree with some of their ideas.
APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE FOR THE POLITICAL TALK, JUST PROVIDING HISTORY AND CONTEXT TO @HIKARI
Chris Ship had this to say in reply to a nasty sugar.
"It's a judgement handed down from the High Court in London. About a time when Meghan was a member of the Royal Family. It happened today & is newsworthy. I am a reporter so I report. It's in the job description. Accurately and fairly. If you don't like that-go find some fiction."
A. So I wonder how Chris Ship likes his residence up the dastardly duo’s backsides, printing their PR. The fact he says Harry did a private visit yet shows the PR photos is laughable. Oh, and everyone said Mr Ginger Fury Pouter was so humble! Hey Chris, enough light up in there to write your jokes? B. This judge......
@Hikari and
@Acquitaine — related to OTT, I read a slim little book (novel) years ago called We The Living, written by Ayn Rand before her Fountainhead days, written when she was 20, a university student, observing the takeover in Russia by early soviets and its affect on the lives of all including White Russians (the upper middle, intellectual, aristocratic). A Russian great aunt praised it as accurate. An interesting read today.
@Not Meghan Markle,
How long can it last — that is, the idea, as the trial falls apart, of trying to present her as an innocent harmless “young mother” focused on twee recipes and exulting in her invisible child, close (ancient) family moments with Doria and Thomas, while they wheel Harry out as a military man yet again? Working the angle hard until summary judgment day? Shameless.
“Confusing article, but the bottom line seems to be that Markle’s hatred of her own father — and refusal to give or reconcile — means that the well being of an isolated senior who’s led an exemplary life & and who now has a heart condition is irrelevant to her vanity litigation. Nice.”
I think, yes, of course they have probably sunk that low.
They’d run over granny to chase a rolling penny.
Tourre tweet quote above should say refusal to “forgive or reconcile” — apologies, my iPad is jumpy with weird autocorrections lately
Sure!
What was Miss Cupid Stunt II doing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJXpvyTzjoE
I wonder what they are scheming now.
Also, the photo was taken some days ago but only released today. I wonder whether this has something to do with the Brad Pitt volunteer photos released yesterday in the DM.
I may be wrong but the deadline is next August:
Meghan's lawyers have asked the High Court for disclosure of evidence, such as emails and texts between her and her friends to be delayed until next August.
Meghan's lawyers have launched a series of a flurry of moves to have the case delayed.
Both sides in the case have a duty to disclose relevant documents such as messages and emails to the other side.
Meghan was originally given a deadline of 6 November to provide these. (DM 29 October 2020)
I too noticed that Harry seems to be showing off his New Balance running shoes. May be a coincidence but you sure get a good look at the brand with one foot turned at right angles to the other.
@AnT
Did you see the congratulations card featuring a pregnant Meghan Markle in Hello's list of royal baby gifts??
https://www.hellomagazine.com/healthandbeauty/mother-and-baby/2020110999924/best-royal-themed-baby-gifts/
@Puds
I too noticed that Harry seems to be showing off his New Balance running shoes. May be a coincidence but you sure get a good look at the brand with one foot turned at right angles to the other.
Goodness, I completely missed the New Balance shoes. Oh, dear, this makes it a thousand times worse. Instead of showing up for a PR photo op and doing nothing to earn publicity on the backs of poor veterans, now he's selling shoes to make money off of them. I'd say somebody should have given him a swift kick to the nuts, but it is abundantly clear he has none.
Did she not realize this photo/look was going to be printed over and over and over again.
Oh, I bet she did, her last official act...she maybe thought the cape was a statement of strength -- from a superheroine.
I seem to recall rumors (planted by her?) that she was going to be one of those Marvel comic movie superheroines. I wouldn't know one from another; I abandoned comic books when I was in elementary school.
The MoS lawyers noted in October about that missed deadline, “No or no good explanation has been given for this state of affairs.”
Team MM has additionally asked for disclosure of evidence to be delayed until August 2021, mere weeks before the October trial would begin, which seems utterly ludicrous and unfair to the defence.
Don’t know if this judge is handing out rope, or is just another self-important dazzled sycophant due to his past relationship with Diana.
I wonder if they understand the amount of leaks that may burst forth if all her requests are granted and she is given a soft trial and easy win due to these games, I imagine hidden dirt or speculation about her and perhaps even the judge would shoot like lava from random media nooks.
Isn’t the Harry charity and video double with brown eyes the guy who wears the trainers, tilts a low cap, and exhibits the beefier arms?
Just a reminder, gentle fellow viewers. Who knows, but, wanted to mention it.
This guy in the double’s uniform always seems to have a more worked-out chest to me as well than our sickly caged Harry of the Thousand Lamentations. See what I mean? Mmmm?
(I fear I am devolving to 20 year old me eyeing the cute male students in lectures with my friends.)
On topic: i have a theory that it's finally dawned on the Sussexes that their royal connection is the only collateral worth anything to anyone and so they are pivoting back to it without a blush that they rubbished the connection during Megxit.
Harry had no compunction letting down his military connections when he officially had them AND during most of 2020 when he had bigger fish to fry or so he thought.
He is now desperate to show his military worth because without the military connection it's hard to come up with occasions to pretend play royal since alot of royal public events are military occasions.
The rather grand 'The office of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex' is to put that royal scaffolding around them again and i suspect helps Harry function better because he knows no other life and can't cope or function without it.
This new scaffolding reminds me of what Wallis had to do to keep David happy where she recreated his royal life complete with all the insignia from his former life and instructed the staff to work around him in the manner he was used to.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle now live in Santa Barbara with their son Archie
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex attended Remembrance Sunday in Los Angeles
Shared photographs from visit as Prince Harry's wreath was snubbed in London
Royal expert Katie Nicholl says this shows the gap between couple and the Firm
Author told OK! magazine that the royal family 'refuses to bend the rules’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8961229/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-growing-apart-Queen-says-Katie-Nicholl.html
Absolutely agreed on the idea of reading about all ideas to understand what sides from extremes to middle, are thinking and espousing. The world is so fluid, has always been, and understanding thought is understanding culture, history, actions, consequences. Be it royal history or modern elections or even avenues of trade. Yes. read Gulag as well. Hope you enjoy the other book.
I love your phrasing about their desperation scramble to put royal scaffolding in place to shore up their collapsing “brand” and means. So well put. Exactly what is going on. They have no portfolio of programs for Netflix cash, the legal and PR team fees must be astronomical, and so now MM is probably thinking she can con the BRF one more time.
William is probably arranging the barbed wire as we speak.
The few photos don't really allow anyone to see Harry's eye colour. Some blue eyes don't look very blue on some photos so I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it.
I noticed the New Balance too but didn't think anything of it - maybe it's new shirt he should have been wearing if he was merching.
All honours to the real-life men whose story seems to have influenced Tarantino's thinking, those of Operation Greenup:
https://sofrep.com/specialoperations/oss-operation-greenup-the-most-daring-successful-mission-of-wwii/
They were truly courageous - Harry's not fit to clean their boots. He is making a mockery of them and all the other ordinary men & women who did extraordinary things, in his pretence of being a hero.
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As ever, Archie appears to be Missing in Action. Can she produce him? Where is he? Is he being kept safely out of her way?
Does he even exist?
Department....
The DM has an article today about Harry volunteering by himself in an LA neighborhood not far from Doria’s home. He was outdoors at a charity handing out bags of food. I suppose it was damage control.
Best reader comment of the bunch:
No good deed goes unphotographed.
Playing with words now, and did she not remember at the time that she didn't write but 'created' a letter?? Curiouser and curiouser.
This was in the DM (I missed it) and I saw the excerpt in Konckoff Duchess https://monstermarkle.tumblr.com/.
They have no portfolio of programs for Netflix cash, the legal and PR team fees must be astronomical, and so now MM is probably thinking she can con the BRF one more time.
It is impossible to con someone who lives 6 thousand miles away. The BRF is ambiguous about Harry but they are overjoyed that Megs is far, far away, not making an arse of herself in England. They hope she never returns to British soil. But going by her MoS lawsuit, Megs might be planning-plotting to come back in October 2021 for her court appearance and to create tumult and controversy in general. She might be mobbed by her young UK sugars. That October 2021 will mark 2 years that Megs/Harry basically decamped to Canada/Los Angeles. 2 Years gone means Megs will feel that a decent interval has passed, that it is time for a UK visit. Fauxie to be left behind with granny Doria.
Agree the eye color can be iffy photo to photo, varying with lighting. That is why I have been doing beefy arm and chest watch too! Ever since some nighttime plane arrival in Canada when they fled.
Someone on LSA posted a convincing argument about ears as well a few months ago.
Who knows? But am keeping it in my conspiracy tin hat, tin tiara, tin corset Rolodex for now. That said, I do think H is absolutely enough of a limp-brained cheese biscuit to have done this opportunistic photo grab himself.
Meghan Markle admits giving personal information to the authors of Finding Freedom
In new court documents, the Duchess says she gave her own version of events to someone to be communicated to the authors
ByVictoria Ward18 November 2020 • 4:45pm
The Duchess of Sussex said she was concerned that "her father’s narrative," that she had abandoned him, might be repeated
The Duchess of Sussex has admitted that she gave personal information to the authors of Finding Freedom via a third party.
In new documents lodged with the High Court, she reveals she was concerned that “her father’s narrative” - that she had abandoned him and cut off contact - might be repeated, prompting her to intervene.
The Duchess says she gave her own version of events to someone else to pass on, so “the true position… could be communicated to the authors to prevent any further misrepresentation.”
The Duchess insists that she never spoke to Omid Scobie or Carolyn Durand about the book but admits she does not know if the Kensington Palace communications team provided any information on her behalf.
She also reveals that she wrote to her father, Thomas Markle Senior on the advice of two members of the Royal Family and then shared the draft with both her husband and Jason Knauf, then communications secretary...
"Two members of the RF"? Harry & Archie?
Is she being salami-sliced?
Which members of the BRF is she dragging into this mess now?
And, talk to H, who believed hundreds of rabid paps were stalking his Z-list wife in Toronto per her weeping long-distance complaints, though the Toronto police said, “Huh? Nah.”
Anything is possible, as is any con.. But as I said with William around, putting up the barbed wire, the duo better have plans B, C, and D through Z ready.
When you’re in a hole already, stop digging as they say. She just can’t shut up, she has to have the last word.
Doria’s home: Also, note how his article is able to discuss Doria living near Compton (a neighborhood where the LA riots happened). The neighborhood where Doria lives is a nice middle class neighborhood and it’s really disgusting for the DM to make the comparison again. The DM was roundly condemned for doing that before.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8961197/Prince-Harry-spotted-volunteering-non-profit-foundation.html
Re Harry's beefy arms, they look the same (to me) on the photos of him & Megsy delivering food in LA in April, down to the blond hairs. The ears also look the same. Just my opinion.
https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-hold-hands-face-masks-deliver-food-la-coronavirus/
Isn’t the Harry charity and video double with brown eyes the guy who wears the trainers, tilts a low cap, and exhibits the beefier arms?
Just a reminder, gentle fellow viewers. Who knows, but, wanted to mention it.
This guy in the double’s uniform always seems to have a more worked-out chest to me as well than our sickly caged Harry of the Thousand Lamentations. See what I mean? Mmmm?
I looked at that and thought to myself "Self, with that mask and pulled down baseball cap, just about any ginger-headed dude could be hired to play the part!" but then I shook myself, said "Nah!" and hesitated to mention it and his arms because I didn't want to go there. (Glad you went there instead!) Yeah, his arms are looking beefier but, after all, what else has he got to do except work out, insult the public, and merch Meg's contracts? (I did however note that he was venturing into meth addict scrawniness territory the last few pictures.)
Perhaps Charles. Means of encouraging him to contribute to the legal fees?
Thank you for posting that new article! And may I add, Yowza.
My pick for her two bosom RF confidantes who eagerly manned the phones to Omid are of course Philip and the Queen’s late cousin. /s
I'd expect any members of the RF who were speaking to M about her father in the summer of 2018 might have suggested she communicate with him if the opportunity to say that arose. It's just common sense.
I had thought summer 2018 was when articles came out saying TQ wanted the situation resolved but several of your helped me see those came out later in 2018 and 2019. Regardless, why not communicate with him? That doesn't mean write a letter necessarily and certainly doesn't mean "create" some overwrought schoolgirl whine in swirly handwriting (hearts as dots over the "I" anyone?) nor does it mean send it to your business manager, nor does it mean lots of other things she did. It just meant stop the constant airing of dirty laundry. So far as the RF knew, he had been supposed to walk her down the aisle in May for pete's sake. And immediately after that she refused to speak to him? And their spat is almost constant front page news?
I don't think I have an eyesight problem but I can't see what you mean re a photoshopped photo. The gloves are in Harry's right pocket, as can be seen on the 2nd photo. The right arm looks fine.
The article does mention Compton but says it's "just a short drive from where Meghan Markle grew up and where her mother Doria lives in the View Park-Windsor Hills area of Los Angeles, approximately 20 minutes away,". I don't know the geography of LA so don't know if the DM comment is accurate.
Er, ehm, yes, of course they look the same—same double, eh? Proving my point.
* Charity Harry looks farm-fed.
* Whining pale sweaty Video Harry looks like he couldn’t bench press a housecat’s weight. I see him sleeping, pints, smokes, watching tv.
Just my opinion. Maybe I am wrong and he is thriving and eating all the cauliflower cheese and swinging kettle bells with Ellen.
So she tearfully told some who is in the BRF or Kensington Palace her secret “daughter’s narrative” to pass on for FF—
Then casually threw in that she peed in the bushes in Africa and does the warrior pose after sex.
Ok. Don’t mind me, hun, just taking notes.
Hordes of people were baying for HM The Queen to DO something!! about the Sussex’s.
The wise ones whispered ‘wait’ - and ordered in popcorn.
Thank you for the Telegraph article confirming Markle's cooperation with the book. In other words she used Diana's strategy dictating the book via third parties.
And she lied about it at first the same Diana did.
Given that Morton's book was beginning of the end for Diana as a royal (Charles demanded separation shortly after) I expect Megs will not benefit either.
I see the jagged edges on Harry’s arm, particularly around the elbow. I pinched the photo to enlarge it.
The point I was trying to make about Doria is that DM continues to associate her with Compton. It is unkind, unnecessary, and not accurate.
I rather think they are.
Hairy looks like one furry dude; the real Harry has relatively little arm-hair. H. Windsor at times looks as if he's been grown in the dark - pale, etiolated, almost smooth.
Hairy's ears stick out more, I think, (real H must take after Diana rather than Pa.)
2 Royals? Any 2 of Charles, Harry, Archie? Or did Philip tell her to `bloody well write to your dad and apologise!'
A warning: Take great care if you're ever tempted to offer advice/helpful suggestions to a narc, no matter how well-meaning, kind or sensible. In my experience, they twist whatever you say to suit their case, so that it rebounds on you. Communicate only via solicitor/ attorney.
Husband has just commented `Two Royals don't make a write'
Well they’ve issued public denials stating neither of them had any input to the book. This recent development shows she’s lied to cover her lies.
Yes agreed. Hairy.
And I love your husband’s quip.
She lies up to the 11th hour and then admits it when there is no way out. Even then she qualifies with it with a way to be as least guilty as possible.
I should add the latest development is about her letter to her father (not the book) and the MoS asking her to prove she wrote all of it, as they believe KP staff assisted so she doesn’t own the intellectual rights.
Doesn’t this argument show how easily compromised this individual is? She does deal with the Russians often. Probably best to keep her and Harry far away from the BRF. They sound like idiots.
It looks more likely they were being kicked out of the RF. I don’t mind that narrative at all. Actions have consequences.
They’ve been reduced to playing hero veteran in a foreign country. Good luck with that.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13232449/meghan-markle-finding-freedom-defence-collaboration-case/
Whoever gave her the advice to write a letter isn't party to this case nor should they be. This is her trying to muddy the water as you point out in the hopes that these senior royals will rescue her as she implicates them by implying that their advice might also include the PR campaign that she orchestrated using the letter.
IIRC, at an earlier hearing she admitted to the court that she asked Christian Jones and by extension the KP comms team to help her with the PR orchestration and not only did he refuse, but cautioned her that it was a bad idea. I believe this was the hearing where the DM was demanding to know the 5 friends and anyone at KP who might have been privy to the letter. She admitted CJ and Harry. Today's hearing establishes that Jason and the KP comns team may have helped write parts of it.
She's spinning, weaving and tying herself and her lies in knots to try to confuse the central issue or even the question asked. If she were a small child you'd be so frustrated abd exasperated at her inability to give a straight answer to anything without editorializing, lying some more and pulling innocents into her answers.
As for FF, we must not forget that just last month her lawyers were arguing that it was fanfiction and piffel made up by the authors and today she's admitting that she supplied information, so which is it??
Well, she's right about that. Being caught lying publicly rarely enhances one's image.
In Meghan convoluted speak this means she wasn't doing it to enhance her image. To us normies we ask what does she think correcting the record does for one's image?
Meghan Markle admits she provided personal information to the authors of Finding Freedom via a third party, High Court documents reveal.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8959233/Meghan-Markle-provided-information-Finding-Freedom-authors-party-documents-reveal.html
Ditto Boris and whatever is going on in Downing Street.
Anything is possible, as is any con.. But as I said with William around, putting up the barbed wire, the duo better have plans B, C, and D through Z ready.
"once bitten twice shy" ---
Of course Megs has bitten the generous BRF many times. She has conned them enough and they know it, that they are also dealing with crazy.
I agree that the BRF should listen to William here. The Queen is getting too old, though her courtiers are probably grounded and solid. Softy Charles is the weakest link as far as M/H getting a desirable half in-half out deal, if the Queen should pass on within the next few years.
You could be onto something here. If she can insert the Queen into her case and the Queen cannot appear, then perhaps Meghan has to drop the case and she can attempt to force the Royal Family to pay for the entire thing.
It's always about money.
Just some of her denials:
"21 Sep 2020 — Meghan Markle Denies She Collaborated With Finding Freedom Authors as Book Is Brought Into Legal Battle. The Duchess has refuted claims that she "caused or permitted information to be provided directly or indirectly to, and co-operated with, the authors of the Book." Town and Country Magazine
LONDON (AP) — Lawyers for a British newspaper publisher that's being sued for invasion of privacy by the Duchess of Sussex argued Monday that she made personal information public by cooperating with the authors of a book about her relationship with Prince Harry. Her lawyers deny the claim.21 Sep 2020
21 Sep 2020 — Author of Finding Freedom denies Meghan's involvement in book. Telegraph
21 Sep 2020 — Meghan and Harry did not cooperate with book authors, court told. The Guardian
23 Sep 2020 — Meghan Markle denies collaborating with Finding Freedom authors Film News UK
Harry and Meghan 'did not contribute' to new book Finding ...www.bbc.com › news
25 Jul 2020 👀👀👀
This woman lies so much she loses track of her stories.
She goes on and on about her need to change the narrative constantly. 'I helped with finding freedom, for my image.' 'I orchestrated with PR, against their advice, for my image.' and eventually, 'I directed the same friends to speak to People, to bolster my image.'
I thought she was pursuing a privacy case here? No?
Now that's out the window...there's no chance a Justice cannot see what she has just presented and say it was a private letter not intended to be shared. She can't even prove it was her intellectual property. Just saying so, doesn't make it so. No matter how she crafts the verbiage around her claim.
I truly think she knows she is going to lose and wants the case sped up and settled with a judgment. She wants the Queen to force her to withdrawl, thus taking on the responsibility of paying for it.
She's seen the Queen pay for lots of things- Andrew etc. I'm sure $6MM is just another drop in the bucket. Doesn't the BRF have a small interest in Harry succeeding? Even as a family member? Just wondering.
She needs to make up her mind. One minute he has a mobile, next minute he doesn't.
I can smell her burning pants from here! 😝
Thanks for this. ;o) I thought I had read it...then I thought I’d confused it with the letter which is why I wrote two replies to Puds . So glad I’m not losing the plot!
WoW when you put it that way ! She is such a pathological liar.
So glad I’m not losing the plot!
I think we are all suffering from information overload where these two are concerned! 😄
Sorry, it sounds as if today I'm trying to pick holes with posters' comments re photos. This is absolutely not the case. I check in case I've missed something.
I looked for a photo showing Harry in Lesotho, for instance.
The one below in the link is dated April 2013 and it is Harry. Tap on the photo to enlarge it and you will see Harry's hairy arms. Exactly the same as on the photo in LA shown today.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1733103.ece/alternates/s615b/Prince%20Harry%20in%20Lesotho.jpg
That said, I love your husband's quip!
You are kind to me ladies, thank you. I find especially damning this passage:
The Duchess has refuted claims that she "caused or permitted information to be provided directly or indirectly to, and co-operated with, the authors of the Book."
Because this is obviously a direct citation from her lawyer's official statement on her behalf. Lying to the court clear and simple.
If I was the Judge I would held her for contempt of court.
Either way, it would be nice to have a warrant for her arrest lying about, just waiting to be executed should she return to the UK.
a lot depends on what kind of contempt it is, criminal or civil. In theory the guilty can be fined, go to prison or both. It is described as deliberate failing to obey and respect the court.
I am not a lawyer and don't follow the case close enough but if she is caught lying to the court, not to the media, it sure is contempt.
Also, side note, what grown adult needs multiple people to advise and help them write a personal note to their father. She and/or Harry could have flown over to visit the poor guy.
She's doing herself in with these lame arguments and only convoluting the entire case. Bringing knives to a gunfight, so.to speak.
Thank you for the Times article. It makes a damning reading.
The self - proclaimed "whip smart" Markle looks like an absolute dimwit who clearly can't foresee the consequences of her own actions.
Judge Warby may be tempted to just throw the case out, he has called her out already as a Hyperbolic Asserter if she has lied in court in an affidavit she is in trouble, it may however, depend on how it affects either sides argument and if it's deemed she has wasted Court time.
Hyperbolic Asserter is the posh, legalese code for 'Liar, liar pants on fire'. If the Judge has already said that of her, then we don't need to wait until next August to see which way this is going to go. Reading between the lines of the MoS's legal team's statement re. Meg's failure to supply her communications as asked for . ."No, Your Honor. We don't have 'em. Absolutely no sodding clue why not. Maybe the dog ate them. Or Archie. We have received no explanation of any sort.'
Everybody's got her number, but our Mugsy still must think she can snow them for the better part of a year and still triumph in court.
Mugsy's bitten off way more than she can chew, even with oversized fake choppers like hers. All her life she's lied and conned and cheated and bailed out jobs and promises and lovers on her relentless climb to the next rung on her slimy ladder. She has gotten away with it too, because until she splashed herself on the cover of Vanity Fair and told the world she was 'Wild About Harry', it's doubtful that anyone in her past ever checked up on all her lies, or if they did, she was too small potatoes to be worth bothering to correct. Other people she'd conned were likely ghosted before they could seek any sort of restitution, and were probably relieved to be shot of her. So Mugsy comes tripping into the BRF in her oversized strappy sandals caked with filth and thinks she can continue to lie with impunity whilst playing the lost and innocent ingenue act that apparently charmed Trevor and Cory for a time. The BRF was never 'charmed', not for two minutes, but they were humoring Harry. How far is their humoring going to go, as he wanders around L.A. looking like a homeless person and insulting the military veterans of multiple counties?
Let's hope Judge Warby throws the book at Smugsy hard enough to knock off her weave.
on the other hand the (Cambrisge) grey suits at KP seem unlikely to contribute much to such a melodramatic letter. they seem more likely to want to get the famiy drama done and over and out of the media. so makes me think the grey suits reviewing the letter were Sussex team KP grey suits.
"on the other hand the (Cambridge) grey suits at KP seem unlikely to contribute much to such a melodramatic letter. they seem more likely to want to get the famiy drama done and over and out of the media. so makes me think the grey suits reviewing the letter were Sussex team KP grey suits."
But this happened in July/Aug 2018. There weren't really separate Cambridge/Sussex "teams" at that time.
And Jason K has been pretty hyperbolic in the past. Remember people used to question how he could possibly have worked for the Royal Bank of Scotland in some higher-up pretty public positions. At least that was discussed on a couple of blogs I used to read.
I am awarding you with the Investigator of the Week golden award. You deserve it.
If somebody reads it and believes she hadn't written the letter for PR purposes this person is out of touch with reality.
https://blindgossip.com/beauty-actress-is-definitely-not-happy/#more-101513
Who is the beauty actress that the BFF has not talked to in a year.
Of course, maybe you don't think M is the BFF - the comments section on the blind is not open yet.
Meghan and Harry.
Why would Meghan still be friends with her?
I wonder how long she and Nick are going to keep up the farce though. That's always been a strange pairing.
Sounds like a planted story by P to get P in the press as another victim of mean Meghan, imo. It only helps P. Especially if the blind is true and her working reputation is poor with staff.
"Okay nutties - put on your thinking carp - Blind gossip has a new one It is not directly about Meg's - she is (probably) the BFF of the Beauty Actress.
https://blindgossip.com/beauty-actress-is-definitely-not-happy/#more-101513
Who is the beauty actress that the BFF has not talked to in a year. "
Priyanka Chopra
Is this why she had to drop her previous lawyers? They must have realised she made them lie in the court and refused to represent her further.
They could probably foresee this bulk of porridge exploding into her face
Thanks for copying the letter. I made it through the first paragraph and then stopped because it was so awful. I can't imagine sending that to a parent.
As we all know, MM has shown a propensity to hide behind people, or evade consequences. There is always a source for comments, or a friend said this or that, as she shoots her little flaming arrows of hate and lies and begging and innuendo into the world.
Even the marriage to Trevor ended via hiding behind a FedEx envelope. And the marriage with the UK ended with her leaping on a flight to Canada, leaving H to cope with the fallout alone,
The things identifiably shooting of her mouth or keyboard (Tig days included) are generally utterly banal. I like wine. I like vacations. I like clothes & jewelry. kindness is good. I eat avocado toast. I make chicken. I like dogs. I wrote a dish soap letter like everyone else in class. I cooked turkey. (And, her blog was written by others anyway, a web team.)
Even the worst items are actually simply stupid or obvious: no one asks if I am ok, people should vote. And then, there are the many quotes from others she lards into her otherwise incoherent speeches and old Instagram posts.
She brands herself as a strong woman feminist. But she doesn’t want to be on the line for her own opinions, rude comments, gossip, attacks and begging. She likes to point her claw fingers, throw others under the bus, skulk in corners. She tries to create deniability for everything, the sign of such weakness and such a sly, oily lack of character. I didn’t say that, do that, think that, someone else did, was poor me!
This is simply evidence she is more of an empty shell, with jealousy, anger and greed as her only personality cornerstones. Narcissists are like this. Emotion? Feelings? Not so much.
For this reason, I can well imagine she asked for help writing her terrible letter to Thomas. She wants others to provide content because she feels nothing, has nothing to say, is just a wigged pile of cliches in heels. How to speak about anything but money? Ask someone.
This court case is beginning to drill into this lifelong insipid gambit, and her empty persona, and I love it.
"She is just a wigged pile of clothes on heels".
So far this is the best description of Markle's absence of empathy or propriety I have seen
Then she added the cliches, hate, accusations and morbid claims that come naturally to a narc. Maybe added after the staff saw their last draft.
Possibly told H “but Jason and others like it, told me to add it!” And off it went.
And now, caught, she simply reverts to form: someone else is at fault, others told me to say it, etc. Narcissists lie, lie, lie.
If you go back and read everything he has said about her, it's always in reference to her celebrity and those things that are in the public domain never truly intimate, lovely moments that only a child would know about their parent. He is surprisingly much more erudite and intimate about Charles.
Someone elsewhere said that it appears the only thing that imprinted on Harry and left a lasting impression about his mother was her celebrity and the sheer force of it when he was forced to walk behind her funeral cortege.
That makes sense when you realise that apart from the military, we have seen him champion her causes or set up causes in her name or recreate her iconic moments eg with children, that Angola mine fields -3 times at the last count. And again, only based upon the publicly known causes or iconic moments. Nothing of his own. Not even copying Charles.
And he dared to guilt-trip the public to accept Megxit for 'Diana's second son'
He is too busy shaking down her memory for money and clout to take a stand for her.
And never forget he has revealed himself deeply resentful and jealous of William so i doubt he would sincerely stand with him on this except to wrestle the narrative away from William and make it about himself. Again.
@Puds, her lawyers must be having fascinating private conversations these days. They know they have a nightmare client by now.
@Lizzie and Sally
Catching up on the overnight posts but this is what I found:
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/duchess-meghans-half-brother-asks-the-queen-to-resolve-family-feud/
.............
Thanks for this Maneki.
So Her Maj was getting requests from both Thomas AND Junior to resolve the family feud! She must have loved that!🤣
You're very welcome.
I'm WAY too cold for any higher-order thinking tonight!
I'll just throw in some research when my fingers aren't too frozen.
However I'm enjoying the mulling over of the letter and will add my thoughts when warm again.
Good points about Harry and Diana - he once said he doesn't even remember her that well! I had thought Harry would try to use the Bashir issue to launch yet another lawsuit. I'm glad William is taking a stand for her as I'm sure it will be a far more sensitive one than she would get from the Harkles who would most likely try to monetize this latest Diana tragedy.
@Acquitlaine said...
"And never forget he has revealed himself deeply resentful and jealous of William so i doubt he would sincerely stand with him on this except to wrestle the narrative away from William and make it about himself. Again."
I wonder how long it will be before Harry makes some kind of separate public statement about this investigation. I can't see him letting his brother be the only one to get attention from this story. Three, two, one....
🤣
Their new media strategy is obvious and actually quite pathetic ...
Military for Harry, tied into a cool celebrity image.
Family and home and domesticity for Meghan.
I agree 100% that it's their new strategy. And it probably has several planned stages which took a while to draw up, which is exactly why they're not going to stop just because they got a wave of bad publicity after the initial move. (Besides, to a narc, any and all publicity is excellent publicity.) We're going to see this play out for a while yet. And if a cemetery pap walk was their shot, with merching at a charity for veterans' families as chaser, we're in for quite a ride!
Anyway, I wonder whose recipes Domestic!Meghan is going to steal now that she's no longer with Cory.
And surely it has crossed their mind that the new picture they're painting of a brave veteran husband and his devoted wife could really use a child. I wonder if they've found a child actor whose parents are willing to let him play Archie for a few years and they're about to introduce him.
Sorry I’m lost with that. And what does William have to do with it. Only a short explanation needed!
"Throwing this out there, lest we forget:
Isn’t the Harry charity and video double with brown eyes the guy who wears the trainers, tilts a low cap, and exhibits the beefier arms?
Just a reminder, gentle fellow viewers. Who knows, but, wanted to mention it.
This guy in the double’s uniform always seems to have a more worked-out chest to me as well than our sickly caged Harry of the Thousand Lamentations..."
Wasn't he also shorter, about even with MM when they were standing next to an open hatchback on a car, when delivering food earlier, in ghe spring orsummer? I think someone here pointed it out. No idea who.
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1) Diana made tapes that were passed on to Andrew Morton for his book.
2) With Martin Bashir, she had meetings, which culminated with the BBC Panorama programme. (now in dispute)
3) She also talked personally on tape to a chap that came to the Palace to help her with her nervousness when having to make a speech. These tapes were released and made public.
Basically, Bashir tricked both her and her brother by providing false documents and also told Diana that her staff were in the pay of the security services.
Had she not been lied to, there is a possibility that she would have refused the interview and history would have taken a different turn.
Also, the BBC sacked the guy who innocently made the forgeries of the bank statements, whilst at the same time promoted Bashir, who went on to win awards for the programme.
She became so paranoid and terrified of those around her that she thought giving the extremely detailed interview (that they wanted) was the only way to protect herself.
Sadly fallout was much bigger than the fears they had gaslit her with because she was immediately divorced and socially ostracised plus she refused to have any form of royal security around her except when with the boys because of lingering paranoia.
A theory has now developed that getting rid of her bodyguards led indirectly to the danger that ended in her death because when she had palace security the paps never got near her and without them she was harassed to the extreme. Her royal bodyguards would also have vetted the driver of the car as well as the car itself and or overruled the plan to make that unnecessary late night journey that ended in her death.
The often forgotten consequence of that interview is how much it hurt little William who was 13yrs old and was bullied by his classmates over it.
Earl Spencer is pursing an enquiry into the case with William's backing.
Blind gossip has a new one It is not directly about Meg's - she is (probably) the BFF of the Beauty Actress.
I agree with @Louise that it's about Priyanka Chopra.
The interesting detail is that Meghan hasn't been taking Priyanka's calls since around the time Meghan filed the lawsuit. Wasn't the last word on the connection that the "five friends" had all lawyered up and that the lawyers were telling them not to talk to Meghan? But it looks as if this is a good, old-fashioned Markle-style ghosting. Ah, don't we all feel homey and nostalgic now?
Priyanka may be even thirstier for attention than Meghan -- which is saying a lot. And count me as one of those who thinks her marriage to Nick Jonas is a bearding contract that may not be getting the returns they had hoped. I had always thought their "friendship" was mutually beneficial, as both were in highly publicized interracial relationships. Priyanka would have relished the reflected royal glow from Prince and Princess Harry, who in turn looked really classy next to the in-your-face excess of the Chopra-Jonases. For a while, 2018 did look like the beginning of a more diverse, vibrant era in which you -- and not your stuffy grandparents -- get to choose whom you love.
I had the volume off so didn't hear what it all said.
Domestic Meg and Hero Harry, coming to a theatre near you soon!
That went away pretty quickly when Lady CC told the friend to basically F*@k Off. Perhaps they just put it back into Megs bag of nasty tricks for later.
Although, I would be aghast at a Judge believing such bombshell accusations from a litigant who has just admitted to several outright lies she has told the court.
I think financial. Infertility weeping IVF treatment then begs the question: who conceived/carried Archie to term?
Also, I wonder if MeGain had to switch attorneys when her porkies started coming to light.
Thomas is not the defendant. He is a witness and as such has no expectation of confidential information being shared with him.
I blame the migraine meds. I can actually feel myself losing IQ points as it kicks in.
...She says that she then informed Jason Knauf, at the time Kensington Palace’s director of communications, who “provided feedback on that draft but no actual wording, as this was a personal letter from daughter to father”...
and then
Meghan claims she spent hours writing the letter on her iPhone over several weeks before sharing it with Harry and Mr Knauf.
The document released by the High Court yesterday says: “Mr Knauf provided feedback on that draft but no actual wording, as this was a personal letter from daughter to father. The comments Mr Knauf provided were in the form of ‘general ideas’.” (I suppose Knauf will be questioned now)...
I'm having a hard time thinking that a letter of that length was done solely on a cell phone. All that? on what and sent how to the various people for input?
Has MOS now requested now these electronics for tracing the electronic bread crumbs? (I'm thinking that might open even more cans of worms of electronics not previously asked).
has NOTHING to say regarding the Finding Freedom and Sussex collaboration. Or his own lies regarding same.
How many times does this Ken doll have to be thrown under Barbies dream camper for him to get it?
He is totally expendable.
Thank you for the Times articles.
Mr Justice Warby has agreed to Meghan’s request for a nine-month delay in the trial, which was due to start in January. In a heavily redacted judgment published yesterday, he said her confidential reasons for seeking the delay outweighed the concerns of her father, who feared he would die before the trial. The judge said that Mr Markle, 76, who lives in Mexico, had “quite rightly” not been informed about the reason for the duchess seeking the adjournment. (Now what the heck is the meaning behind THAT statement?)
Pregnant? So she shouldn’t be subjected to international travel because of COVID-19 nor to the stressful trial? Is the nine month delay a not so subtle hint? And that her father- who talks to the media - can’t be trusted with such info? A new life “outweighs” the fear of Thomas Markle’s fear of dying before the trial?
God I hope I’m not right!
Also, what do we think happens next to counter today's revelations?
I agree with @KCM1212. Witnesses wouldn't/shouldn't be informed.
I think the "quite rightly" statement is being taken out of context here.
I think the judge said that when the MoS was arguing TM is old and worried about delays and after all, we haven't even informed him why there is a delay...And the judge responded it was quite rightly he hadn't been informed. Nothing to do specifically with Thomas IMO or allegations of abuse etc. Just that no witness would be informed.
The court is backed up due to covid. I read she specified after October 15 which would be after income taxes are due. Perhaps she is pleading financial to get the taxes paid?
Lots of interesting comments and ideas...It sounds terrible to say but I hope it's not another pregnancy. I think I'm leaning away from that idea as I believe she is not capable of having a child. Also, the press keeps mentioning 9 months but it was postponed to 9 months from the original date of January 11th. If you count from when she requested the additional time, it's more like 11 months.
Also, I believe we found out that the next time available for a trial expected to be 10 days in length was not until October. If it wasn't for Covid, the trial could have been postponed but rescheduled for an earlier date than October. I don't think she had all that much say in how long the postponement would be.
Another thing to keep in mind is that they asked for the additional time in part because the book is now being allowed in as a portion of the defense. Whatever the confidential reason is, it's only a piece of the picture.
I had initially guessed Markle could be seriously ill. Perhaps she has cancer and needs treatment? That would certainly warrant an extension.
I agree as the witness for the opposing side, Thomas is not privy to MM's info, but why in the world would they make a point of saying this publically? I don't understand that at all and it seems cruelly unnecessary.
Could Thomas have been trying to find out the reason for the confidential request? Even if that were true they did not have to publically tell the man that keeping her "secret" is more important than his illness. Whether Thomas is on the opposing team or not, he is still her father. It seems to me for the judge to make that statement, Markle must be telling porkies about her Dad in chambers.
BTW don't forget that the letter we have here is only an excerpt! The actual one was even longer than that!
I too can't imagine composing it on a phone. So many many porkies served by Megalo!
Crowd, *crickets*
https://www.judiciary.uk/?s=HRH+The+Duchess+Of+Sussex+-v-+Associated+Newspapers
The "quite rightly" statement about Thomas was made in a somewhat different context but it still seems odd. IMO it makes the confidential reason for a delay seem more curious.
I'm happy to note they are prepared to make other arrangements to get Thomas' testimony.
Points 12 and 13 are interesting despite #14. Will review the judgment more thoroughly tomorrow and look forward to other Nutties' opinions.
This DM article from October 2019 seems an important source for understanding the current legal case. It contains info on how Thomas felt about the letter, his reasons for going to the press, how her 5 friends tried to make the letter seem like an olive branch to her father, and includes excerpts of Thomas' letter in reply to Megain.
Revealed: The handwritten letter showing true tragedy of Meghan's rift with father she says has 'broken her heart into a million pieces' - and why he feels forced to make the 'devastating' missive public
-Thomas Markle reveals full content of letter written to him by daughter Meghan
-The Duchess of Sussex penned the anguished letter in response to public attacks
-Mr Markle, however, insists that Meghan's letter is actually far from conciliatory
-He is speaking up after five friends of the Duchess gave anonymous interviews
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6686817/Letter-showing-true-tragedy-Meghan-Markles-rift-father.html
I wonder if someone at KP is spilling the beans to ANL about Meghan's behaviour? Remember the Sussexes shared offices with the Cambridges at KP at the time.
Completely shameless and predictable that she is dragging Harry's family into the drama ... coyly mentioning two senior members of the family giving her advice but not naming them and wording the information in such a way that she does not say they told her to write a letter. I reckon they are Charles and Camilla and she did a pity me drama for them shortly after the wedding and they suggested to her that family is important so she should reconcile with him. We need the talents of Magatha Mystie here!
It sounds terrible to say but I hope it's not another pregnancy.
I know I feel terrible just saying it
Sorry Sandie, resorting to potty humour.
Shes just too much 🥺
Shake yer Lettuce
Tinkle, Tinkle little liar
Leg cocked up, to aim much higher
Taken short, to set the scene
Warrior posed, Omid mid stream
All the worlds now privy to
Megsies motions, 1, or 2 ?