Saturday afternoon April 17 is the funeral for Prince Philip, a little more than a week after his death.
It's been a remarkable time for the media, which has published numerous stories about how humane and kind this seemingly crotchety old man really was on a one-to-one basis.
My personal favorite came from White House butler Lywood Westray, who served various Presidents for 32 years. When Elizabeth and Philip visited in 1979, the Prince had apparently had enough of the stuffed shirts - and, perhaps, of the Carter family - and hid away from the party for a drink with the staff.
"The prince was in there by himself, which was odd, because everybody else had gone down to the other end of the building," Westray says. "I said, 'Your Majesty, would you care for a cordial?' He says, 'I'll take one if you let me serve it.' What do you do? I didn't do all that because I had the stuff in my hand. And he says, 'If you let me pour it, I'll have one with you.'
"... So he poured it, the one he wanted, and we took the same thing that he had. And we had our drink there together and had a little talk while we were there. He told us if we were ever over there in London to stop at Buckingham Palace and see him. Can you imagine the prince serving you? I enjoyed it. You know, we're not supposed to drink and carry on at that time. We're not guests. It was just the three of us in the room, so nobody knew what happened. And I drank my little cordial, we all drank, and had a little conversation. But that was one thing I'll never forget, having been served by royalty."
The memories of Philip are just the kind of thing to bring people together, which Meghan must hate, because she prefers to tear people apart.
As the world prepares for Philip's funeral, it seems inevitable that Meg will do something to bring attention to herself.
What will it be?
Comments
"@Acquitaine said...
Everyone (politicians, media, peers) had an opinion about the daughters being present. Queen had no choice except to order an immediate divorce.
Harry is already on a similar path with his accepting Russian hospitality in Canada and that Montecito monstrosity.
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It's too bad the Queen couldn't order Harry to divorce. MM has certainly committed enough offenses to deserve that demand from Her Maj. Does the Queen no longer have this type of power? And if so is it due to the difference in time periods?
What is your take on the Montecito mansion? Do you think they live there full time and how do you think they financed it?"
The Queen has ordered divorces ONLY when politicians become involved in the commentary. We saw that with the Charles and Diana divorce too.
Infact, any time politicians start commenting on royal family matters especially if they do it in the Commons, she moves swiftly to shut down the situation because political chatter threatens the monarchy itself.
With Megsy, politicians' commentary eg that letter from 72 female MPs is directed at the media rather than the family which means monarchy was fine so she hasn't ordered any divorce.
Also, considering that the problem here is Harry rather than Meghan, a divorce won't necessarily bring him home and even if it did, he's proven untrustworthy so it won't neutralise the situation. Would he agree to a divorce directive at all considering he is now out of the family?!
Re: Montecito
I have no opinion on whether they live there or not. I assume they do until i see concrete proof that they don't.
As for ownership, 2 deals are a possibility
1. Given their known finances, and the fact that the seller was a Russian oligarch who was anxious to get rid of it and was connected to the Russian Oligarch who rented to them Canada house free of charge.....
I think they were hooked up with one of those sellers who also provides financing and in so doing the Oligarch gets to launder their own money in this deal.
2. Three houses that had trouble selling and were highly publicised as Sussexes residences and advertised at huge sums during or after occupancy to attract buyers.
The Sussexes get the optics of high-end lifestyle with money to spend aka don't look like they came empty handed even if they have no jobs.
And they probably get some quiet cash on the deal.
The `nave' of a church gets its name, apparently, from a resemblance to an upturned primitive boat (Latin `navis') - at least, that's the secular explanation. I bet the old Sea Dog was aware of the other reason - that the `nave' is the `ship' that takes the souls of the Faithful to Heaven. PP has slipped his moorings and has gone on his final voyage.
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Husband & I (if I may say that!) also thought the red container would have sweet treats for the ponies -only we guessed peppermints!
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Yes, the 10pm News reported that WPOS is still at Windsor.
There is a picture taken of them in Scotland that excudes a playful warmth between them that i've never seen with any of the other in-laws and is more reminiscent of her close bond with Margaret and her parents.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cc/08/22/cc0822010f53298b96e01ceefe57826d.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B4X897/queen-elizabeth-with-prince-philip-and-sarah-ferguson-at-the-braemar-B4X897.jpg
And there are few other pictures of them together that show a very relaxed, comfortable relationship.
Har: No, not yet.
Will: Kachoo!
What happened to her one excuse that she didn't want to be taking away the spotlight at the funeral?
Did thing accidentally get botoxed with his pissed off face on, his real face?
Did thing realized he had Anne and her husband as his keeper's this trip home? Like that song with lyrics" one in front of me, one to the left of, here I am stick". Didn't Anne husband have to be a keeper for it's wife one Remeberance Day. Sent in the Pro to babysit thing.
No pics much of that row except to honor Anne and seating of two it's. I thought I saw few penguins sitting around it.
Was it having muscle spasms? It kept jerking it's head around in direction of Cambridges.
Him shoving in front of the Cambridges way and running after them, Like Dude this is right up there with the lion king shilling and shoving chairs out of the way at last day of it "working" as royal. Head's snapped around when, think it, spoke. It earned more than one look back!
He's trying to get orders filled.
Does he noticed that the Queen is not going to speak to it. I said awhile ago, it better not hasten the death of PP. And since she's not taking his calls I guess she heard both it's claims. Especially how PP was being used to muzzle it's wife. The kraken had been set free soon after that interview. They forgot who they are trying to con again. That gig has been long gone. And today there was a soulmate trying to get through this most profound loss of the other soulmate. God Bless Her Majesty.
>> If he goes home with no cash, he will be living at the Days Inn Oxnard for the forseeable future.
LOL! 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for that! Just snorted my repast cocktail!
And, thank you to all Nutties for the insightful and incredibly well-written comments related to Prince Philip’s passing. You have all created a space that makes this day a little less sad.
"stuck in the Middle With You" by Steelers Wheel?
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7Vn_WKkWU
"And today there was a soulmate trying to get through this most profound loss of the other soulmate. God Bless Her Majesty."
Yes. This.
Firstly, she would have worn a canary yellow off the shoulder dress. After all, since she's broken the rule about royalty only wearing black for mourning, she would now break the rule about wearing black to a funeral.
Blogger Girl with a Hat said...
Can you all imagine what the strumpet would have done had she been allowed to attend?
Firstly, she would have worn a canary yellow off the shoulder dress. After all, since she's broken the rule about royalty only wearing black for mourning, she would now break the rule about wearing black to a funeral.
AND her "egg basket" (LOL) would have rivaled a hot air balloon in size.
DM reporting HM had one of Philip's pocket squares in her handbag at the funeral
The sad thing is that the hard part for her starts now. After the planning and the pageantry comes the learning to live without him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
news reports are saying the BRF was frosty towards JH, I didn’t find that at all. Did the news forget Covid rules about people keeping within their Bubble? From when they stepped out of the castle to the way down to the church, everything was programmed, there was no room for idle chit chat, hugs, kisses, and the BRF doesnt show PDA anyway with the exception of the outcasts. Additionally, the family probably said their Hellos in the privacy of the castle before hand when lining up to go to the church, none of them spoke to each other and the remained int their bubbles. Only frostiness I felt was from Sophie, who is very protective of HM, and doesnt want the bad behaviour of JH to influence her kids at all.
the exiting from church didn’t seem as planned out after HM left.... maybe because Andrew was in her row next to her and followed her immediately out? normally I’d think PC/Cam would exit after HM, then Cambridges who I think were next to PC, then JH, ut JH was blocked by PA and PAnne, so the exiting was more natural/fluid and not ‘formal’ . I didnt think JH ‘ran’ for the exit, just organically followed his row. Also there was a short gap of time between the exit and the family appearing at the exit , thanking the Dean ( I Liked the Dean, still dislike the smarmy, oogly-eyed towards MM, AoC...barf). NExt that I saw, was Kate and JH chatting while PW was talking to the Dean, then sort of walked together and Kate drifted back to Sophie/ daughter. but later pictures show Kate appearing to hold a tissue and JH talking to PW while PW start reading the program again.... another scarfing? I need to find video to re watch that part.
But this DM writer, Tominey, seems tp have alot of ‘inside ‘ information, and ‘close friends of JH’ sources, AKA “MM”, that seem to spill alot of beans about frostiness, close c=family chit chat, how anxious JH is to get back to the Viper/Claw/, and PAndrew being the most understanding of the group, etc. Sounds like MM phoned it all into the reporter herself. BARF. As long as that continues to occur, JH will get SCARFED!
Yuck! Is that supposed to be some kind of message? MM will probably think so...
OMFG if Meg tries to put out PR that the brooch was worn by the Queen to signify that she was thinking of Meghan/that Meg was there in spirit I just might shoot my laptop screen.
A nice article in DM by Sarah Vine
Snippets:
"The whole family has been rocked by that interview, not least because since it was broadcast so much of what was said seems to have unravelled, including Meghan's assertion that the Archbishop of Canterbury married them three days before the official wedding in their 'back yard' (I wonder whether that little embarrassment was mentioned after the service over the cucumber sandwiches).
But it is the character assassination of the Duchess of Cambridge that has angered senior Royals so much, not just because it is so deeply unfair and unrepresentative of her personality, but also because she and Harry used to be such close friends.
From William's point of view, this attack on his wife feels like the ultimate betrayal, below the belt and unworthy of Harry.
And just as Harry has justified his recent decisions as necessary in order to protect his wife, so William has felt compelled to stand up for the woman he loves and who has been such a source of strength to him.
Never in his life has he experienced anything like this: William is not just grieving for the loss of his grandfather, but for the loss of the brother he once knew..."
I love that they are all so upset on Catherine's behalf. She deserves that kind of affection.
Anyone who'd take flowers and try to apologize to Mrs WPOS for what I have no doubt was NOT her fault would certainly want to see her husband and a once beloved BIL make peace.
"But it is testimony to the Duchess of Cambridge's incredible generosity of spirit that she should be the one to extend an olive branch, despite being very much the injured party.
If Harry has any sense left whatsoever, he may want to reflect on this fact, and consider himself very lucky to have such a kind and forgiving influence in his family.
He may want to look around and see that, OK, they may not be perfect; OK, they may not always have the right words or the wokest of sentiments; OK, they have their own troubles and tribulations; but his family love him very much, and are willing – even in the midst of their own grief – to show it.
Time to wake up, Harry, and smell the oat chai latte."
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This seems to be the prevailing narrative.
True or false, it certainly illustrates the warmth felt towards Catherine.
WPOSS may have inadvertently begun a mythos around Catherine that will certainly work in William Vs favor. She may go down in history as a truly great consort:kind, generous, beautiful and sincere.
A Diana 2 without the issues Diana struggled with.
In short, everything that WOWPOS wants to be known for (but doesnt actually want to do the work for)
Ironic
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14683344/prince-william-requested-peter-phillips-stand-between/
Snip: "PRINCE William requested that Peter Phillips stand between him and his brother Harry on the way into Prince Philip’s funeral, it has been claimed.
The brothers were separated by Peter, the son of Princess Anne, as they walked into the service on Saturday afternoon.
The decision meant that the brothers were 12ft apart due to Covid social distancing guidelines.
However, the funeral on Saturday saw Peter hang back slightly to allow the brothers to walk ahead at the same pace.
Now sources have told The Mail On Sunday that the distance between them was requested by Prince William himself - and that Harry has been given the cold shoulder from his family.
Harry has reportedly faced "frostiness" after returning to the UK - and could return to California as soon as tomorrow.
They said Harry has experienced “a great deal of frostiness” from many of his relatives.
They explained: “Ironically the only one who has expressed any sympathy towards him is Prince Andrew.
“He knows from Sarah Ferguson - and now first hand - how it feels to be the outsider, which Harry very much is.
“As far as the others are concerned, there is a deep sense of protection towards the Queen and resentment towards Harry. There is little sympathy for him after what he and Meghan said on Oprah.”"
He's lucky his family have class; had he behaved thus in MY family he'd have left with fewer parts than he arrived with.
Assuming he'd been allowed to arrive in the first place.
I doubt H was wearing a visible earpiece. Visible to hoi polloi watching on TV? If it was this obvious, most at this PP service would see it, making H the subject of endless ridicule and jokes. As if Hapless doesn't have enough problems, with the Tarantula ordering H to not return home empty handed. ---- "Even if you must swipe some Royal jewelry for moi!" "A tiara or two would be nice" "Or that emerald necklace from the Romanovs that the Queens bulldog Angela kept hidden from me"
"Hound Charles until he turns the spigot back on for the Duchy payments we deserve, for the racist ways the English have treated me and Archie, or I will make your life a living hell!"
I would loved to have been a fly on the wall after the family entered the castle. Did they immediately part ways or were there additional words.
Have to say, was surprised to see in the procession that Andrew walked like a rotund portly old man. Seemed much older than charles. Saw some close up pics of Charles with tears on his cheeks. It is kinda unbelievable that they are at such an old age to lose a part for the first time.
Hope the queen doesnt pass until covid passes. She will deserve all the ceremony and pomp that can be given.
*fistbump*
I wonder if we're cousins?! :o)
Yeaah, brother LOL
Also, did anyone else notice Camilla taking Charles' hand during the service? I might have imagined it, but it looked like she did to me, and it was so touching.
Charles has looked wrecked, completely wrecked, since his father died. I feel almost as bad for him as I do HM.
No one bowed or curtsied that I saw, so that tells me she saw the family, before the whole thing began.
Also the Dean or AoC who greeted her didnt seem to bow, i may have to rewatch it.
OMFG if Meg tries to put out PR that the brooch was worn by the Queen to signify that she was thinking of Meghan/that Meg was there in spirit I just might shoot my laptop screen.
Eeeeek! Have you checked the price of ammo lately? Instead, I recommend violently knocking it off the desk onto a hard floor like husband did a month ago when he spun around in his swivel chair and caught his laptop with his elbow. He's still sad about that laptop even though he has not one, not two, but THREE working desktop computers, and I believe two tablets. (Actually, one of those computers was *my* new computer. He said he'll buy me another one soon.)
I think if HM was going for the diamond symbolism, she'd have gone right for Granny's Chips.
The only reason I don't think she wore The Richmond to show support for Harry ( even though he and Andrew were in the same row as her, which I thought interesting) is because I believe she wanted everything to be about Philip, and Philip alone.
I find it amazing that William is the one who wanted Peter between himself and Harry. I truly thought it was just an eldest grandson thing.
And I am so glad that Anne walked as well; it always seems like a males-only thing, and while I am no feminist ( as it now stands, ripe with misandry) I would feel deeply hurt if I wasn't allowed to honor my grandfather in a way my brothers could.
And I thought it was a protocol thing as the Heir Presumptive trumping the eldest grandson.
Wills must be furious to make such a request!
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghan-markles-bewildering-fail-for-prince-philips-funeral/news-story/b80ac365db64d7a5311ad06833f94049
IMHO the bigger kraken's have been slowly let loose. They destroyed any chance of retaining even micro size hope in joining the inner family. The statements especially that PP was excuse to muzzle them. He was treated as David was and I think he tried afterwards to obtain leverage. First he's leaving right after, now he wants to stay for HM birthday? NO, go straight home, PA doesn't want to babysit him all week. And PW ties like he scarfs. One could see PW forehead frowning, pos was trying to frown back but that botox limits his facial expression. Poor PoW looked devastated and lost. I think family must be keeping him protected from pos. He wants something or he would be gone.
No shenanigans from The Claw. Very puzzling.
I think that William's brother got orders from his wife to have a picture taken of him speaking to both Catherine and William. Probably Charles too but that couldn't be arranged or he was rebuffed too forcefully by his father.
`This is very difficult for me - this should be a joyful occasion but really I'm in mourning.'
Do we know much about HM's relationship with her grandmother?
According to Wikipedia `Despite Mary's austere public image and her strait-laced private life, she was a caring mother and comforted her children when they suffered from her husband's strict discipline.'
Could the Queen be seeking comfort and strength by invoking the memory of her Grandmother? Naturally, the wife thinks it's all about her.
Perhaps the brooch just makes the Queen feel less sad.
`Actually, Harry rushed forward and came between Catherine and her husband William, not the other way around. A snake in the grass. Harry stole their solitude. While Meghan watched, of course.'
Precisely.
Mary in particular took to the girls with her to all manner of entertainments from which we have cute anecdotes of a loving interactions unlike with her own children to whom she was always chilly and reserved.
“If that young pup you love all of a sudden becomes rabid no matter how much it hurts you must put that rabid dog down. They have to realize that Harry is that rabid dog and put him totally out of the family.”
Recollections vary, as they say! David stuck the knife in later.
Beautiful send off, BBC.
I watched whilst on the phone
to my mum in the UK.
We sang, “I Vow to Thee, My Country”
and “Jerusalem” together. Precious.
Thank you for your service Philip
God Bless You.
God Save the Queen
The Queen may have been
gathering strength from Queen Mary.
Whatever her disposition, she had buried
her husband, three sons, and suffered
the treachery of abdication from
her first born son.
Stoic.
The eyes have it
I doubt Wills had much of a chat
With his brother, better known as
“that prat”
Beneath Kate’s black mask
She was up for the task
Let him know, with her eyes,
he’s a rat
We like ye :)
Thank ye @ London Gent
Madam Bowery
What a withering attack
From the wife of sad sack
A posy of wilted flowers
A note, more hearsay
To match her nosegay
She deserves to be locked in the towers
Nice one, turning `Your service' around!
It was indeed, a beautiful one.
A note, more hearsay
It is a sad thing. I worry.
Comment on MoS article:
`Actually, Harry rushed forward and came between Catherine and her husband William, not the other way around. A snake in the grass. Harry stole their solitude. While Meghan watched, of course.'
Knowing M's thinking, This could have literally been true. Set H's phone to face time with M. In the USB port stick in a micro camera on a three ft wire. Have the camera emerge in the lapel of Harry's suit. Or incorporate as part of a button on a shirt he has on. Ebay has 1,463 listings for these. M buys the best one that is most difficult for the other Royals to see and detect. M can watch in real time. Also record this, to watch later in Montecito, after smoking some weed with Dorito and the vinyl child. Plenty of giggling all around.
Apple phones, no USB port. Other high quality ones do.
Thanks @ WildBoar
Meant to say final service, nay mind,
you understood.
From the wife of sad sack
A posy of wilted flowers
A note, more hearsay
To match her nosegay
She deserves to be locked
She deserves to be locked ......
Who deserves to be locked?
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Harry Sprat, he ate no fat
He only ate the lean
He was called a Prat
But knew where it was at
So he married Meghan the mean
Yet betwixt them both
They licked their victims cleane
They have best Hollywood lawyers
To put them afloat in the green (cash)
Then Harry got a job with the mentals
Was not a fake, not a rental
Merely talking his lines so similar
And so long familiar
That his mother's demise
Had made him compromised
Going all out American greed
And going nuts
Cavorting with Vegas sluts
Until marrying a real one
Yes indeed
He now forever linked
In lies and double think
With M straight outta Compton
They now eternally romping
At the Royals expense
This no mere happenstance.
They never sit on the fence
Knowing that offence is the best defence
Royals beware
Of Montecitos putting on airs
Montecitos have no cares
Both Liars
Will set your hair on fire
While wearing a wire
To later reveal to the press
To embarrass, make you a mess
To set you spiraling down in distress
Valedictory
Philip’s last stand
Was poignant, still grand
Showed the calibre, standing, of the man
The music he chose, caused much
blowing of nose
His final service, befitting, Amen
Although "he" appeared to try and pull some shenanigans, I don't think many people watching might have realised unless they've been following things as closely as we have. It was quite subtle and fairly easy to miss unless you were actively looking for it which was a measure of relief for me, I was so concerned that he'd blatantly throw a spanner into the works on the day. I was discussing it with my brother afterwards and he hadn't noticed any of it (despite him being firmly pro-BRF and knowing exactly what those pair are like) until he re-watched. It'll be interesting to find out what mum noticed when I phone her later.
^ skimming through for typos, maybe I might start calling him spanner... he's definitely a bit of a tool. Although spanners can be useful so now I'm not sure if it's suitable or not.
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OT regarding Prince Philip, but relevant to the overall theme of the blog:
Do any UK posters watch that new BBC1 programme for Saturday nights, "I Can See Your Voice"? Basically, a couple of contestands and a celebrity panel have to work out who can sing and who can't from a series of rounds which range from lipsyncing to interviews where the bad singers lie about their life/background to persuade people that they're a good singer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Can_See_Your_Voice_(British_game_show)
Last night one of the singers included a child in her video and said she was her daughter - with that revelation the reaction from the celebs/contestants went from "I think she's a bad singer, she must be conning us about being a good one" to.... "she included her child, she must be telling the truth as she's a mum" and I was like "HUH?" because this is the more or less the same scenario we've seen play out (albeit in a more complicated way) with the shunned one. A couple of the celebs were more reticent and suggested she could have borrowed a relative's child for the video but the overall consensus was she had to be honest because of the child. In the end it did turn out that she was a good (she was great!) singer and wasn't lying, but the way they practically did a u-turn as soon as they thought she was a mother irritated me after everything that's happened in relation to that pair we no longer name.
Princess Anne, Prince Edward and his wife Sophie failed to acknowledge Harry before or during yesterday's service.
'They are still very upset,' the source added. 'They are putting on a united front for the Queen. They all think he has behaved appallingly.'
(taken from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9482851/How-Kate-got-William-Harry-talking-Prince-Philips-funeral-writes-CAROLINE-GRAHAM.html)
From the same article... if you scroll down there's a photo directly under the video of WPOS glancing over, (with smiling eyes) at a very sad and frosty looking Princess Anne.
Then a little further down, a photo of Zara giving WPOS a steely glare!
I could feel the freeze from here!!
I've loved reading everyone's reactions to the funeral and I echo those sentiments. It was so beautiful and touching, and even normally stoic hubby choked up in places.
Ditto.
I was pretty upset yesterday so didn't post... but everything I would have wanted to say has already been said so eloquently.
Thanks to all.
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Only mild ones. Press release about her wreath, for example.
I think that she was going to be the special guest that Gayle King teased. But then she chickened (<---no pun intended) out? In that Gayle didn't seem to have a special guest after all.
I was firmly convinced she'd pull a big stunt. I think she tried with being Gayle's guest but that somehow got shut down.
By then it was too late to arrange for a masked intruder or a fake labor scare or a pap walk (too late to find a rental baby, and Gavin had other plans).
Or maybe a Gayle interview was at odds with whatever else she was filming this week.
Be interesting to know the truth there.
Still a bit unsure about spanner. Broken spanner? Shortens nicely to BS which is apt...
They only want to be paid
The Hollywood way
Only in cash Greene
To evade the Tax Man
To bypass bean Counters
And those many who
Would dismount them
(Too many to count them)
From their Royal steeds
As Duo scrounges for their greeds
As they scrounge for their supper
They never take uppers
They prefer smoking weed
When admiring their greed
These kicking back slackers
Yes, have their Hollywood backers
All in are Oprah, Gayle and more
This Duo is never a bore
To those who want more and more
More riches
These bitches
Will never be critics
There's more monies to score
So if you do deals with them
Hand over cash Green
Or you won't make their scene
Will be left betwixt and between
It's a matter of trust
You'll be left in the dust
Of California tumbleweed canyons
And mudslides that come down
On mansions that abound
Where they are standing their ground
In fair sunny Montecito
It was sure nice to meet ya
As you hand over more cash
Before duo ups for their dash
To stuff it in their bank boxes
Along with their jewels
While you're left a mewling
As vinyl Archie does
When he cannot get his way
When he can't get his waffles
Setting Megsy a baffle
And Dorito the cook
And the crook
Never give her a cross look
She'll bop you over the head
And hear as you bled....
No waffles for you!
At least not from this crew
I appreciated the quote from Socrates I read in the DM today:
The way to gain a good reputation is to endeavour to be what you desire to appear.
Isn't that perfect advice for the nameless one? That she won't take. It's so odd to me. It's far less effort and less emotionally exhausting to just DO the work and BE a good person rather than create all the smoke and mirrors to appear that you did the work and are a good person. Like small-time criminals who put a huge effort into a life of crime when it would be simpler to actually work for a living. The nameless one must simply enjoy it. Remember how astonished her peers were that, having landed the most amazing job for life, she went back to hustling in California. She just plain likes it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9483915/Moment-Duchess-Cambridge-pecks-grief-stricken-father-law-cheek-Prince-Philips-funeral.html
She had to regain control.
I think that you are correct in that the problem children are where the adults can keep an eye on them. If we are eating out with family and there are children that wish to be unruly, they are sent to our table, much to the displeasure of those "good" grandchildren that were relocated to their parents and the glee of the little troublemakers.
I suspect that PA has been stress eating during his exile and the final illness of his father.
The funeral and the death of Prince Philip also showed the contrast between dignified public servants and trashy self-serving celebrities. None of the members of the Royal Family made it about themselves. All they spoke about was what kind of man the Duke was and how much he will be missed. Meghan on the other hand had to leak to the media about her watching the even in Montecito and sending a wreath of locally sourced flowers with a handwritten note. To be a public servant means you shine a light on others or the issues at hand, never on yourself. I hope this event will make Harry think what kind of man he wishes to be - ta true public servant or a self-serving celebrity.
You are right. That simple statement covers everything I guess. It's so alien to me. Where is love, affection, caring, going to bed at night knowing you've done a good job and hoping above all that everyone you love is safe and as happy as they can be? How could you live with yourself if you'd rejected your old, sick father, torn your husband away from his family and way of life and deprived your son(?) of the only playfellows (who would grow to be friends) who would understand what it is like to be of royal blood?
I actually think Archie's life is not that dissimilar to Philip's youth. He's shipwrecked, but the staggering difference is that his mother chose it. She made it happen.
At the chapel it appeared that Bea, Camilla, and Kate curtsied and then Edouardo bowed upon HMs arrival, so they must have been the ones that didnt see her prior to that that morning.
"@Aquiraine: re `Old Queen Mary' -
Recollections vary, as they say! David stuck the knife in later."
Recollections may vary, but there are enough biographies of Mary without taking into consideration anything David had to say.
Infact, i'd say that anything David had to say about anyone in his family was about as authentic as Harry's truth about the current BRF.
He (or someone else) could have suggested this as they were talking about how to handle the situation. I think I also read that he had demanded this ... or the idea of there needing to be some protective space for someone else's safety (as someone might not have been able to control themselves) could have come from another source. And that, would not be very kingly of Prince William.
https://twitter.com/hrhcate
this gal is posting screen shots from the Sussex Squad and they are furious at Harry for daring to talk to William.
quite amusing - H better watch out. The tide is turning
Yuck! Is that supposed to be some kind of message? MM will probably think so...
Diamonds and pearls apparently are jewels of mourning for royals, if that makes you feel any better. The queen may have been expressing her feelings about the wedding. LOL.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/jewellery/royals-wear-traditional-pearls-diamonds-prince-philips-funeral/
https://journalistsresource.org/media/prince-harry-afghanistan-miguel-head-media-blackout/
H was there 10 weeks. What's odd about this, i've read other accounts and they are very different. This is simple. Media found out and they removed him. Other article i read had to do with the bombing of the base (American side) and a story of they were trying to get to H. blah blah blah. It's this - they flew him out quickly and when he got PW & PC were there to meet him and he did an interview and hew was all dirty/sand clinging to him and hadn't showed for a day and a half and was tired (although he had slept on the plane).
I doubt that the actual truth about H and his time overseas will ever be fully told. Always has a slant on it to make H the hero type soldier
This is the only version I’ve read in Britain. He was outed by Aussie media I believe, British press were aware he was posted but observed the news blackout to keep him safe. As far as I’m aware he did two operations/tours out there.
Come on heifer, try to make it about a message to you, I double-dog-dare you
I've seen reports that HM has worn the Richmond Brooch to several Remembrance Festivals.
Maybe she was trying to tell WPOS "You're dead"
Couldn't help noticing their wreath was NOT the nicest. If I was going to point one out, I would sure as shootin' make it the nicest.
You know, Anne was so right about the cultural problems with WPOS2. Its not even the Cali upbringing necessarily.
Its that she doesn't have even the basics of etiquette and good taste. Its a class thing, not a race thing.
And I think she knows it. Buying a garish McMansion does not make you a part of the class she wants entre to. She tried to marry it. Then tried to buy it.
I'll bet she has a whole bookcase of etiquette books that were "accidentally " left at Frogmore.
Whats that old line from Dorothy Parker (I think) "You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think"?
@AvaC thanks for that Socrates quote. I love that.
The pleas for reconciliation are bound to confuse their sugars. It doesn’t make sense after they accused these people of being racist, and trapped, and abusive towards a suicidal pregnant woman.
Their heads must be spinning from the gaslighting
Yes it was an Aussie tabloid who broke the story about him being in Afghanistan. So he was sent home for his (and others’) safety. The magazine, New Idea, claimed they didn’t know there was a media blackout on the info. This would have to be the only story New (No) Idea has ever had right. 😂
For the online media it’s all about click bait and revenue. The viewing stats article is particularly insulting. I wish there was news blackout for Mole (H) and Maggot (M) in the U.K.
He will escape his spider's maze
She has him wandering through
Without any clue
He must escape to say goodbye
This no lie
Or he just might die
As he withers in her web
Of deceit and conceit
Harry get out
Get out of the state you are in
Where you will never win
California is no dream
She just made it seem
So Harry go go go
Back to old Blighty
Where you come back to being mighty
No longer so flighty
The impish old boy
Who was nobody's
Boy Toy
A handbag
An accessory
Boy did she mess with ye
For your future of Anglo fun
Harry run run run
@jessica at 6:35 PM
👏👏👏 agree with your comments
H better watch out.
The tide it is turning
Marital bed it is burning
Before the mudslides come
Yes, you are under the gun
Harry run run run
Get gone and get out
Of this incoming rout
A Royally made man in the UK
This is where you must stay
Ignore Megsy's static
Tell her you've had it
Tell her you're out
With one long shout
She will get it
But will not forget it
She will make her long march
With Arch
Back to Doria's
Where she will live glorious
On take out and beer
With her narcing so dear
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9484419/Prince-Harry-fly-LA-Meghan-tomorrow-royal-sources-claim.html
He can't even wait a couple of days until his Grandmother's birthday?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9484257/Prince-Harry-said-William-Duke-Edinburghs-funeral-wanted.html
Meghan 'did her bit' for Prince Philip's funeral by sending note and wreath made by same florist used for Archie's christening, her friend Omid Scobie says
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9484249/Meghan-did-bit-Prince-Philips-funeral-friend-Omid-Scobie-says.html
Prince Harry returns to Frogmore Cottage after Prince Philip funeral ahead of 'walk with Charles'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9483239/Prince-Harry-returns-Frogmore-Cottage-Prince-Philip-funeral-ahead-walk-Charles.html
About the wreath, well she had to do something so I don't really see it as stealing any shine off that day. I think everyone but the woke crowd saw it for the pitiful gesture it really was, locally sourced flowers or no. No matter what, the specter of their betrayal so soon to Philip's passing was gonna be an issue in a press hungry for conflict and drama. I wonder, and maybe this is being overly optimistic about it all, if the interview and woke politics in general is actually making the Royal Family more relevant, more sympathetic to the silent majority, whose being told in the press, every day, what racists they are, no matter what they do? I guess we'll know over time.
I think the Harry Meg has played their final card here. Oh sure, they can and will leak salacious details but like Piers Morgan aptly observed, their only real currency is in hawking the royal title and gossip for material gain. And they are now out of that loop for good, well at least until Harry divorces Meg and that's all but a foregone conclusion in my mind. At some point he's going wake up from the spell she's cast, realize how badly he's been manipulated, realize she did the same thing to his family that she did to her own, and realize what he gave up versus what he's got in celebrity tabloid fake a** Hollyweird. He traded a Rolls for a a Hyundai in the life style department. He was once close to William and Kate and the Queen. He was once part of a family, flawed like all, but one that loved him and tried to give him everything he wanted only to be spurned.
The Queen, even deep in grief, handled the Harry situation, exactly right. Chess to their checkers. The Queen just gave us a master class in statesmanship under extreme duress.
then Catherine left William and Harry and there seems to be a photo of Catherine with Sophie and Louise and Catherine is wiping her eyes with a tissue as if crying.
When Catherine wiped her eyes with the tissue, Sophie gently laid her hand on Catherine's back for comfort. (seen in BBC video of funeral)
Such a kind gesture.
I can imagine that call:
Florist: Merchme and Howe Flowers. How may I help you?
T2: Madam Merchme, please. THE Duchess calling.
Fl: Yes ma'am. May I ask WHICH Duchess is calling?
T2: The only one that counts, you sniveling yob!! The D of L A!
Fl: Liv Merchme speaking
T2: So listen. We did some biz a couple years ago, remember?
F1: (shudder) Yes, ma'am.
T2: Its yer grace.
F1: Yes, ma'am.
T2: okay. I want to send the biggest bunch of flowers you got to my grandpas funeral. Like, one of them big horseshoe deals. He would like that. Liz too.
Fl: For a funeral, Ma'am, a wreath would be the most appropriate.
T2: Not for Christmas, dope. Its for a funeral. This weekend. Some big deal apparently.
Fl: Do you perhaps mean The Duke of Edinburgh's funeral, ma'am?
T2: Yep. Thats the one. Tho why they always spell his name wrong is beyond me.
T2: So anyways, like I said, we worked it for you to do my reception flowers, right? Couldn't do the church ones 'cause Charles wanted receipts direct for those.
Fl: I recall, ma'am.
T2: So you provided the flowers gratis
Fl: Yes
T2: And a, "creative receipt", lets say.
Fl: Yes (hanging head in shame)
T2: And I mentioned you to some of my pals in the press. Couldn't do it in the program. Again, Charles. But I promised I would give you my business from now on.
Fl: Yes (weeping now)
T2: So its your lucky day! Make me a wreath. The biggest one you got.
Fl: May I suggest Elf Toes for cheapness, and some Coughing Phlox for shady dealing and....
T2: Yeah, yeah thats great. The most important part is I'm going to fax you a poem I want you to copy out exactly and put it on the nicest card you got. I want lots of commas and little hearts over the I's. And sign it "your adoring Meg".
Oh (and H). Send the receipt to Archewell for the taxes.
Fl: (sighs) yes ma'am.
T2: Toodles. Nice doing business with you.
Fl: Gwen! Lets use up that old Elf Toes bunch and some of the Coughing Phlox from Mrs. Digby's garden. Do we have any of those tiny wreath forms left over from Christmas? And some parsley from lunch...
Hahaha, nice one :)
That is adorable! I love that one too (where he propels the little one back to her parents)!! I'm sure he did it to make her parents laugh.
I am so sad that I learned most of what I know about the Prince in the past couple of years. I wish I had 20 years of enjoying him in front of me.
But early or late, I will surely miss him.
The Queen has ordered divorces ONLY when politicians become involved in the commentary. We saw that with the Charles and Diana divorce too.
In fact, any time politicians start commenting on royal family matters especially if they do it in the Commons, she moves swiftly to shut down the situation because political chatter threatens the monarchy itself.
Also, considering that the problem here is Harry rather than Meghan, a divorce won't necessarily bring him home and even if it did, he's proven untrustworthy so it won't neutralise the situation. Would he agree to a divorce directive at all considering he is now out of the family?!
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@Acquitaine / Nutties
Thanks for your interesting responses on both royal divorce orders and Mudslide Manor.
How foreign a concept it is for those of us outside the monarchy to process that a mother would request her sons divorce their wives. What a different life they lead in so many ways!
While I agree that I don't know how a Harkle divorce directive would work now that Harry is out of the family, I think the problem is both Harry AND Meghan and I remain quite certain that H would never have left his family and country if it weren't for M.
And I do think H would come home if divorce happened no matter how it was instigated. One of the reasons I wish the RF would strip the Harkles of all final ties to the monarchy including titles and all money whatsoever is in the hope that it would cause her to leave him and bring H home.
Yes he has been shown to be untrustworthy since the interview but there would be a hope that he could carve out some form of British life away from her and the narcissistic abuse, and separating them would end the danger they present when together.
One point that always gets in the way of discussing a solution to the problem Harkle, is whether they have children together or not and whether the potential children are related to Harry. If there was any kind of sham involving Fauxchie's conception and birth I'm very surprised the Queen did not order a divorce back then. If a scam was indeed perpetrated that is a serious breach of trust and a treasonous act. I've often thought that the RF was faced with the idea that Harry could possibly harm himself. As far as I know, he has been diagnosed with clinical depression for many years and IMO I think the RF has been caught between a rock and a hard place. And just how diabolical are MM's claims of suicidal ideation in light of her husband's disabilities?
It's interesting that you mention when the government becomes concerned about problems with the monarchy the Queen reacts. It's been suggested numerous times over the past couple of years that the UK people should try to get the government involved and I now believe since the interview that the royal family themselves should ask the government for help in dealing with the Harkles. This is an idea that other Nutties have also expressed.
How can the Royal Family remain an asset to Britain and the Commonwealth if they are seen as allegedly racist and to have driven a member to contemplate suicide while also preventing her from getting help? In addition, how can the UK government and the monarchy stand by when members of their family are getting involved in politics in another country?
The Queen has enough on her mind right now after the loss of her husband, but this could be something for the palace to consider if they are not already doing so. There has been some mention of the RF allegedly involving Downing Street. It was discussed on anonymous-houseplant-fan's site last month and this article was cited:
Buckingham Palace set to involve Downing Street in fallout from Oprah interview
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/buckingham-palace-set-to-involve-downing-street-in-fallout-from-oprah-interview-156948/
@Puds,
then Catherine left William and Harry and there seems to be a photo of Catherine with Sophie and Louise and Catherine is wiping her eyes with a tissue as if crying.
When Catherine wiped her eyes with the tissue, Sophie gently laid her hand on Catherine's back for comfort. (seen in BBC video of funeral)
Such a kind gesture.
--That really touched me as well. I love how supportive the woman are of each other.
Sans one, of course...
I wondered if Kate wept because she saw what she had lost of H, his treachery brought home when he smiled at her.
She seems to truly have a kind heart.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1424584/Prince-harry-william-talk-prince-philip-funeral-lip-reading
I see him walking between Prince William and Catherine. Prince William is removing his mask. Catherine seems to acknowledge something. But I don't see him take off his mask so I'm having difficulty seeing how anyone could lip read what was said.
Did anyone see when or from what angle?
'The Queen has enough on her mind right now after the loss of her husband, but this could be something for the palace to consider if they are not already doing so.'
She is 95. NINETY-FIVE.
I know that she will 'die in harness,' as the saying is. Seems more than a bit unfair that she has to suffer this kind of c**p in her twilight years.
Then again, perhaps all the speculation about how the children were raised has some merit.
And the press release was IG thot worthy so there is that.
I think we should do a bingo card of all the different things she will invoke in order to continue trying pulling focus over the next few days.
There is so much that happened at the funeral that will not go unchallenged. The first being Kate.
The photographer Arthur Edwards was secreted in a box to take photos at the funeral, and Philip arranged this??
Isn't he like 80? And unless all the security massed really messed up, everyone must have known he was there, so why hide?
I am really confused. Since the service was televised wouldnt a photographer be expected as well?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14681960/yards-away-raw-emotion-philips-funeral-pain-up-close/
As for The Queen's brooch...I was thinking she would wear the Chrysanthemum brooch, seen in her honeymoon and 60th anniversary photos, in commemoration of her marriage. But those were happy occasions, and this was not, of course. So the Richmond brooch, seen mostly on somber occasions, was more fitting. The fact that she wore it to WPOS' wedding now makes me smirk a bit...she must have been sending them a message that their wedding was not a happy occasion for her. Somewhere there is a photo of WPOSess during the wedding, with The Queen glaring at her. She knew it was a bad idea.
Back in the day I felt kind of sorry for Kate Middleton, as during the "Waity Katie" period she seemed so desperate. But, wow, has she proven the skeptics wrong.
Yes, indeed, yes.
Now its a great story, not just a great punchline.
Although it even makes the punchline better!
Any damage Meghan does is actioned because of his support and consent.
Meghan would not have done anything without his backing even if he gave it after the fact.
She's utterly dependant on him and everyone knows it. She hasn't created her own independent, self perpetuating brand no matter how hard she tries and whatever she has is considered toxic.
Everyone, BRF to Hollywood, wants Harry not Meghan.
Neutralise him, she goes away. She tried to use the R card and his lack of proper support there saw it fall apart immediately. He debunked it in real time which got people questioning her account almost immediately. And everyone believed him when he said (later) that it wasn't PP or TQ.
But her lies and schemes are his responsibility because his presence or support gives them credibility even if everyone says he is under her spell.
Sadly for him, he has ruined his public reputation so bringing him back to the UK will not facilitate a return to public duties. A private life like his cousins awaits him.
Downing Street and Cabinet office were not going to make any moves while PP was dying. Their investigations would continue, but no announcements or responses were going to be forthcoming until after PP and they all knew he had only a matter of weeks.
I think the key question for them is all the ties that bind which threaten UK plc ie how to unmake a Prince of the blood in an age when the tower is no longer an option.
So do I.
A very, very long time.
Think I know how The Queen feels.
I have no idea, Puds.
Would he have pulled something nefarious out while the Household Guard was right there?
Didnt look like his phone ...
I am stymied.
Me too, Gent!
I've seen clips posted here from The Queens Corgi, a film that had somehow eluded my notice.
I am going to choose a good night, load up on the combustables and laugh myself silly.
I am in love with Her Majesty. Will be, till the end of my life.
How is is possible, that someone like Her is able to do what She has done?
Really. Think about it.
But his hands look terrible!! There is a picture of them on Hail the Disney Duchess Tumblr. Not too far down.
https://hailthedisneyduchess.tumblr.com
Does he have heart issues? He was very red, but he often is.
I hope Camilla drags him to a doctor this week.
He is not in her league. But I would hate for her to have another loss at her age.
I can't even entertain how sad it will be to lose her.
Peter and Autumn had signed a $1 million deal with HELLO! giving the magazine total access to the festivities. It was enough that, for the first time in history, rights to a royal wedding were sold to the highest bidder. But when Granny found out that the newlyweds had personally approved each image that ran in the magazine, she was, said a Palace spokesman, “displeased.”
William and Harry were more than merely displeased when they realized that their girlfriends appeared in the HELLO! piece dozens of times. “The princes are deeply unhappy,” a Clarence House spokesman said, “that Miss Middleton and Miss Davy had their privacy invaded in this way.” William was more upset at the notion of selling out to the press. “They must,” he told Harry, “need the money very badly.”
Ironic that H has now turned out infinitely worse and that Peter Phillips had to walk between the brothers. Reminds you just how much H has gone against his own upbringing. In the past he would have been horrified at the idea of feeding Oprah and Gayle from his table.
WPOS can spin leaving tomorrow as ‘the attentive husband rushing home to his heavily gravid jailed as being the attentive husband but I think we all know what’s going on here. He has likely been informed that he is not welcome to stay for the queen’s birthday, and with Cove it still on plus having just buried their patriarch, tjey are probably not having a party. No one wants to spend additional time with WPOS beyond what was obligatory for family mourning and public display. Seems like the most he was offered was a walk with Pa to look at tributes. Not clear if that is in Windsor or at Marlborough House, but that seems pretty chilly for the only publicized interaction with the father and cash point he has not seen for over a year. There is no reason to stay. If William won’t entertain him, and all the mates he’s blown off are in the wind...Not to mention, who would want to mix with someone just in from the States who only finished half a quarantine? WPOS is nowhere and nothing. If it’s true he went to Frogmore, He’d be there alone with staff possibly leaving meals outside the door, or equally likely he was left with a delivery menu to the local Indian takeaway and the number of the nearest taxi firm. See ya, bye, traitor.
It will be interesting to see what form this shitty Sussexes a Montecito‘s PR takes upon his return. Could Phillips death have sounded the death knell of all their shitty schemes? With the body of his grandfather barely cold, and The tiny frail personage of his grandmother, who likely will be following her concert within the next five years, may God preserve her majesty, hustling to make money In such close proximity to a tragedy not just for the family, but the nation and the world, is going to look beyond repugnant. Whatever the substance of the chat which Charles will have had with his WPOS loser kid will no doubt be leaked/spun in some way in coming days. Whatever stories hit the media from California, it’s a pretty safe bet that the opposite is happening, including “a water birth at home.“ This morning I watched some of the pre-funeral commentary and procession I had missed yesterday, And the BBC commentators said only quote the DOS was not cleared to fly at this stage.“ At the top and bottom of the coverage they resolutely refused to specify the nature of the reason she was prohibited from attending.
WPOS was neutralized at every turn; this must have IT back home filled with rage. Catherine wearing the Queen’s pearls, Creating iconic images of classically stylish mourning; the family visibly keeping WPOS at a distance; no uniform, no rolling out of welcome. They tolerated him as they had to, but WPOS is O-U-T. Let the backing away from the two POSs commence from everyone else they hoped to exploit for cash and profile.
The little madam from California wasn't prepared to give it more than a couple of years from courtship onwards. If you can call it 'courtship'. Looked like anything but to me. More of a safari, Soho House supplying the jeeps, guns and overnight accommodation.
Harry leaving so quickly also means that he isn't in the will as all beneficiaries are usually requested to be present during the reading of the will.
Not life threatening.
My first pregnancy, I worked in an office up to my due date.
My second, my husband was out to sea until what we thought would be delivery time. (Had a toddler by then, no nanny, no grandparents, all alone in a new city.)
The seventh month, if that's how far along the surrogate is, is one of the better stages to be in. For a real pregnancy, you are over the sickness and not yet to the so, so uncomfortable last couple months, the ninth month seeming longer than the rest of them put together.
There is no reason to "rush home" to this faker.
I'm sure everyone here knows this already . . . just had to register my outrage.
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/11/21/horticulture/
- it was word-play game
Also `meretricious', as in `Meretricious and a Happy New Year'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9483741/Kate-Middleton-dignified-composed-arrived-castle-alone.html#newcomment
If the Sugars are this upset, just think of how absolutely RED HOT the Claw must be today, heh! Not only did #6 FAIL miserably at his assigned tasks yesterday, but Kate totally trumped the (supposedly) fecund female from Montecito. I am sooooo laughing.
Haha, mm. Thought you were going to do Duchess of Cambridge a bad one, eh? You tried and missed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9484839/Princes-Charles-William-lead-summit-weeks-decide-Royal-Familys-future.html
I still think W was trying to ignore WPOS - he was striding out, looking ahead, then fiddling with this and that, finally absorbed in studying the Service sheet.
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If he could have sprouted wings and flown out of there, he would have. You could see him starting to walk fast. Surprised he didn't break into a run.
The way the Sussexes are continually presenting this is extraordinary. Puts the clock back decades. Also so out of kilter with the way she likes to present herself at other times. The only explanation is that it's a massive get out of jail free card. Gets her cowardly self out of returning to the scene of the crime. And the fact that she hasn't got a job. Also means she has a reason to keep snapping H back to her side with a tug on his reins.
I was also thinking recently that given she needed a new, more marketable baby and given her age, she had to escape our shores first, quickly, as going through another travesty of a royal birth would have been a bit of a strain, even for her. She has the perfect setup now. Big house. 'Home birth'. Hey presto! Here's the baby I heroically delivered in the 14th bathroom with only my perfect husband to help me!
They had the look of children who have been listening to the adults in their lives bash someone repeatedly, and now they're seeing him in person. They glance at him to see if he looks as evil as the parents said he was. Haha.
Mine flares up whenever the weather is very bright (with high UV) but chilly.
I think teleportation would have been acceptable as well!
According to this link https://funeralplan.ageuk.org.uk/viewpoint/is-a-will-read-before-a-funeral
no "reading of the will" is required in the UK. It's not required in my state in the US either. Think that might be the stuff of TV shows and novels.
Sophie got herself in hot water while in her private PR business before she and Edward became paid royals. Edward as well, supposedly used to hound /stalk PC for his TV producing career.
OF course P Andrew and Sarah got themselves in ho water as well when they were selling access to the BRF. and Andrew problems have just continued. its hard being the poor Royal relation.
Many Royals have had bad press at various times. and have hovered up $ when they can, they dont all have profitable duchies to fall back on and support the family. and many sadly totally mismanage what they do have trying to keep up with the Jones.
and Sophie at 38, had Lousie prematurely and nearly died while Edward was out of the country.
problem is no one really knows how far along MM really is because she likes to wear padding. except her IVF clinic hahaha
and when you cry wolf and lie all the time, people wont believe anything you say even if true.
Thanks for the link to the DM "Summit" article. Interesting but pretty bad info IMO. No way Harry and Meghan & Harry did "558 jobs between them in 2019."
According to this link Harry did 201 and Meghan did 83 that year (the year Archie was born) https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a30361010/prince-charles-most-hardworking-royal-2019/
Plus, while I agree Edward and Sophie are very hard-working and I don't doubt they've taken on lots more recently, the article didn't seem to mention Anne at all! In 2019, according to the above link Anne did 506 events herself. That year Charles did a few more than she did but many years she comes out on top.
First, I cannot get over how sloppy he looked. That showed a total lack of respect for the occasion, his grandfather and grandmother/the Queen. Other family members, the UK and Commonwealth, and the worldwide audience. He didn’t bother to get his hair cut, get his roots done, shave. or have his clothing cleaned and pressed. I don’t care how quickly he had to pack and depart for UK. The RF has helpers available 24/7, and I know plenty of people who had their hair taken care of safety during the pandemic—e.g., in a safely distanced private space or even in an outdoor space. He also had some effing nerve to have a tantrum over wearing uniforms, because he didn’t qualify anymore, and I'm sure that was one of Markle's demands.
William looked beyond enraged even being near JCMH. I hope the family realizes they are being and will be manipulated under the guise of “unity” or “healing.” I think Philip, Baron Geidt, Anne, William, Kate, and Zara are the ones who could/can readily see through it. JCMH showing up was a way to darken further one of the family's darkest days. My heart goes out tot hem. Too bad the duo didn’t have the basic decency to have him not go as well.
My theory is that he’s like a cult member and/or drug addict who has all but totally fallen apart—a toddler who at this point can’t even tend to his most basic needs or perform simple mental and physical operations. Markle has two toddlers, not one. His FT “minder” is destroying him. Having lived through summat similar in my family, I hate to say this, but the family shoudl be ready for anything--including another funeral and I don't mean of the Queen.
First, I could not believe how sloppy he looked. That showed a total lack of respect for the occasion, his grandfather and grandmother/the Queen. Other family members, the UK and Commonwealth, and the worldwide audience. Didn't bother to get his hair cut, his roots done, shave. or have his clothing cleaned and pressed. I don’t care how quickly he had to pack and depart. The RF js helpers available 24/7, and I know plenty of people who had their hair taken care of safety during the pandemic—e.g., in a safely distanced private space or even outdoors.
He also had some effing nerve to tantrum over wearing uniforms, because he didn’t qualify. You know that was one of Herself’s demands. William looked beyond enraged even being near JCMH. I hope some in the family realize everyone has been and will be targets of manipulation by the duo, now under the guise of “friendliness” or “healing.” I think Philip, Anne, William, Lord Geidt, and Zara are the only ones who could/can see through it.
JCMH showing up was a way to darken further one of the family's darkest days. My heart goes out to them. Too bad the duo didn’t have the decency to have him not attend.
My theory is that he’s like a cult member and/or drug addict who has all but fallen apart—a toddler who at this point can’t even tend to his most basic needs or perform simple mental and physical operations. Markle has two toddlers, not one. His FT “minder” is destroying him. I lived through something similar in my family and sad to say the RF needs to be prepared for any outcome here, including the worst imaginable.
JennS: Regardless of how or why it happened, it's all on Harry now. He is the one with the ties, connections and power despite the dynamics of that relationship.
Any damage Meghan does is actioned because of his support and consent.
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Yes I agree Harry is the one who draws the attention and has provided the platform. And he has gone along with her schemes but he has also been manipulated and abused by her. She used his mother to shape and manage her control of him.
Harry may be helping her move into politics.
I believe that MM would do things without his backing. She does whatever she wants. Most of us believe she began the first pregnancy ruse without his knowledge.
I'm not sure how he debunked the racism claim. Some of the sting was taken out of it by their contradictions on when the comments were made but he did say they happened. And the next morning on Gayle King's show Oprah ran additional clips where Harry said he left England because everyone - the UK people, not just the press was racist.
Sadly for him, he has ruined his public reputation so bringing him back to the UK will not facilitate a return to public duties. A private life like his cousins awaits him. I don't expect him to be a part of the firm again.
Downing Street and Cabinet office were not going to make any moves while PP was dying. Their investigations would continue, but no announcements or responses were going to be forthcoming until after PP and they all knew he had only a matter of weeks.
I understand this but what I didn't know is that it was definite they were involved...I merely hoped they were.
Nutties mentioned here a few times that we hoped the government would get involved but I don't remember anyone confirming it. I may have missed that.
Can you please tell us whatever else you may know about Downing Street's involvement? Do you have any links? TIA
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9484419/Prince-Harry-fly-LA-Meghan-tomorrow-royal-sources-claim.html
According to royal sources, Harry, 36, is likely to spend another night at Frogmore Cottage - his former home in Windsor where he has been staying on his return to the UK.
"Blind Item #6
The reason we all know the little detail about the alliterate one from the funeral is that her PR team made sure the world knew. Had to make it about herself."
No way Harry and Meghan & Harry did "558 jobs between them in 2019.
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I agree and was shocked when I read it. I happened to looked up some acronym on my tablet - I was watching Line of Duty - and this dealing news pop up. I just copied & pasted the headline but read the article later. The high number of 'jobs' sounded really excessive. Further down, the article said 'Prince Charles took part in 550 Royal duties in 2019 while the Duke of Cambridge focused on 220.' That's more like it.
It will be interesting to see how the workload is distributed and among whom. This also sends a message to the two ninnies that they are truly out of the BRF and are redundant. Good to see Charles and William working together (with the Queen).
The couple, who recently welcomed their first child, have been living at nearby Frogmore Cottage - where Prince Harry has been staying since his return to the UK.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9484311/The-Queen-seen-time-Prince-Philips-funeral-takes-wheel-Jaguar.html
I laughed out loud at the roots bit! Lol lol Mole (H) is a natural redhead, so not sure what you mean... he’s not bleached his hair nor coloured it. Nor is he going white or grey. Maybe he likes a beard? I personally didn’t think his general attire was scruffy. ;o)
Royal men have never come across as particularly vain, because if they were I’m sure their bald heads would be fixed amongst other things.
Did you notice the curious glances Lady Louise and her brother gave H as they exited the pews?
They had the look of children who have been listening to the adults in their lives bash someone repeatedly, and now they're seeing him in person. They glance at him to see if he looks as evil as the parents said he was. Haha.
I noticed the looks too! They probably half-expected Harry to have horns growing out of his head.
"UNITED IN GRIEF Harry reunited with William & Charles for 2 hours after Philip’s funeral sparking hopes brothers’ rift can be healed
PRINCE Harry was reunited with brother William for two hours after the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral — sparking hopes of peace between them.
They joined dad Charles for the first time since Harry and wife Meghan’s Oprah US TV interview threatened to tear the family apart.
Charles had private talks with his warring sons after the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral — and insiders say it is just what Philip would have wanted.
The three met up away from the cameras following Saturday’s televised service.
They remained together for two hours at Windsor Castle as they mingled with family members on its Quadrangle.
It sparked hopes that the devastating rift between the brothers could one day be healed.
Harry may now stay on for the Queen’s 95th birthday this Wednesday.
He has also said he will join his older brother for the unveiling of Princess Diana’s memorial statue at Kensington Palace.
Royal insiders hope the ceremony on July 1 could also help ease the rift as they stand together on what would have been their mother's 60th birthday.
A source said: “It’s early days but you’d hope this is exactly the first step Philip would have wished for.”"
More at the link.
And threatening the RF: "It was H who was so depressed. The RF knew it and took away his titles. And they are billionaires and wouldnt help us. They wouldnt let him get treatment for his drug addiction caused by the PSTD from Dianas death"
I read that article and thought : WPOS2 is setting them up. If PC lets them back in, and WPOS betrays them again (or WPOS2 does) she will control WPOS forever
I couldn't bring myself to check Twitter or FB.
I am speechless. Of all the nerve!!!
https://www.instagram.com/oprahdaily/
Conflicting stories today, whether H stays a few days longer or jets off tomorrow.
A "source", hunh? I don't think that Philip would have been quite so forbearing about some little twat that insulted his daughter, son, and wife.
Snippet:
"DOMINIC SANDBROOK: An unapologetic celebration of royal pageantry and patriotism
For as long as Britain has existed, the monarchy has been at the very heart of that story. Nothing better embodies the sweep of our shared past, the richness of our traditions or the values of duty and service that most of us still hold dear.
And the fact that Prince Philip chose to remind us of those virtues, in the ceremony he designed to mark his passing, speaks volumes about the character of the man, and what he meant to this country. "
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9484887/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-unapologetic-celebration-royal-pageantry-patriotism.html
Diamonds and pearls apparently are jewels of mourning for royals, if that makes you feel any better. The queen may have been expressing her feelings about the wedding. LOL.
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Yes, I had forgotten that it is colorless jewels for royal funerals! I did know though that pearls have been symbolic of tears since the Victorian era.
I wonder why there was so much talk about her wearing the diamond with the central sapphire prior to the funeral.
Since the day she wore the 'Richmond Brooch' to the Harkles wedding, I believe it was only seen on her one other time until yesterday...at the November 2018 Festival of Remembrance. And I remember folks claiming she was honoring MM somehow by wearing it!
The Queen has other pearl and diamond brooches so I was just disappointed she picked the one associated with the Sussex wedding.
I was also surprised to learn the jumbo-sized Richmond brooch was made in the 1890's. Most brooches were smaller in that era. Larger ones the size of the Queen's were usually worn at the waist on a sash / belt but are usually more substantial and not as delicate. Perhaps it was made larger because it was designed specifically as a gift for Queen Mary.
The Queen's brooch can be worn with or without a pearl dangling drop at the bottom and may also be worn as a pendant necklace instead of a brooch which is typical of good-quality antique jewelry.
You can see Queen Mary wearing it as a pendant at the link below and also pinned to the ruffled lace of a bodice just below her bust. There is also a pic of QEII wearing it as a young woman on a sash across her chest.
http://www.thecourtjeweller.com/2019/01/queen-marys-richmond-brooch.html
I wonder if the Queen has any of Queen Victoria's mourning jet jewelry or hair jewelry. I'd love to see the Queen wear an antique Scottish pebble brooch. Victoria made them all the rage beginning in the mid-1800's with her love of Scotland. They are usually composed of sterling metal but some are made in gold as well.
See a gorgeous collection of Scottish agate jewelry here:
https://www.morninggloryjewelry.com/articles/gallery/victorian-agate-jewelry/
Also check out some wild Victorian mourning jewelry here made from unusal materials:
https://www.andersonandgarland.com/news-item/how-to-identify-antique-mourning-jewellery/
Those Instagram posts are where I got a lot of the negative comments from Oprah's followers that I posted here. Oprah is giving the Harkles a boost through her Insta accounts. She even promotes them via PP's death by writing how wonderful Harry's statement was etc. What does she say about W, C and H from 2017? I can't go back that far on her account as I am not signed up.
I've been through this many times, and it was always the deceased's attorney who called me. Every time, I'd been named executor of the estate.
It appears to be the same in the UK.
"There isn't an official will 'reading' as such. Instead, the will remains secret until the testator has passed away. When this happens, the executor is contacted by the will writers and left to contact any beneficiaries mentioned in the document."
Is a will read before a funeral? - Age Co Funeral Plans - Age UKhttps://funeralplan.ageuk.org.uk ›
Yesterday, I said Catherine looked stunning at the funeral, but I think it was more than that, she looked regal, a future queen. Sarah Vine didn't use those terms, but she was appreciative of Kate in her column below. I think whotzer-name must be spitting mad.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9484879/SARAH-VINE-Kate-class-act-monarchys-rock.html
Whotz-it's wreath effort was so tacky. She obviously picked colored blooms rather than the usual white or pastels so that it was easily spotted. Aracanthus mollis & eryngium are unattractive flowers, & as much as I love campanula, it wilts rapidly, & isn't the best choice for a wreath. It was a small matter, however, & the bigger & best thing was that SHE WASN'T THERE to spoil everything for Prince Philip's real family.
I have no idea if Ginger was wearing a wire, as some have suggested, but the way he kept walking ahead of William & Peter made it seem as though someone was telling him to move forward so that he was in camera range. In some photos he would have been blocked out, if he hadn't been ahead of William. Odd. He looked edgy & sullen, & definitely seemed awkward around his own family, people he's known all his life. He looked as though he was stalking Will & Kate. I thought his family seemed to exhibit a pronounced froideur toward him, but those more familiar with the royals than I am might be better judges of their body language.
I hope Charles isn't wimping out by giving Ginger a photo op with him. We Nutties feel Ginger definitely has the begging bowl out. As many have noted, the lower ranked royals have often had financial issues. Wasn't whotz-'er-face supposed to make him rich beyond his wildest dreams? Isn't that working out for them?
I didn't have time to stream the entire funeral live, so watched a taped, truncated version of it on NBC. Whotzer-name was mentioned only once in the entire hour long broadcast when one of the presenters briefly alluded to the Winfrey interview. The accusation of racism & the tension between the brothers were the only things mentioned. Whotzer-name's alleged issues weren't brought up at all. Her image was only shown once, when they flashed the photo of the queen & Philip meeting 'Archie.' She wasn't in ANY of the family group photos shown. NBC is wokety-woke-woke, but they didn't seem that interested in Whotzer-name. CBS & ABC had her stooges, Gayle & Scabie, so I didn't bother with them. Interesting that NBC gave her such a wide berth. NBC emphasized the love story of Elizabeth & Philip, & closed with Her
Majesty's speech where she called Philip her 'strength & stay.' Very touching.
@JennS, I didn't know about Scottish agate jewelry; it is beautiful!
Agreed, Jenn! Lovely and unusual
I can't get into my instagram account. I forgot my user name (if I ever actually signed up) They keep telling me my email has been used...I'll struggle with it tomorrow.
The Tumblr I saw it on said the photo was from 2017.
I was really upset that she and her minions would parade their "connections" at this time. Especially since she may have exacerbated Philips illness.
Honestly, I loathe the whole damn coven
Is Meg trying to prove that she actually has noble blood? (after seeing the funeral and realizing how insignificant Hollywood bullsh*t is?
Prince Harry, Meghan Markle revealed to be cousins: report
https://www.geo.tv/latest/346004-prince-harry-meghan-markle-revealed-to-be-cousins-report
Good luck! I'll get a wild hair and decide to sign up for something, only to be told that I've already signed up, and to produce the password which I don't have because I don't even remember signing up for the account.
I'm, uh, signed up for Instagram, too. I just don't remember the password.
This might be like a game of telephone... 558 is probably Meg's lifetime blow-job count.
(sorry for being crass!)
I really hope I am wrong about this and someone says no that's a insulin checker or fit bit, because if Harry did that at his Grandpas funeral that is utterly unforgivable, disgraceful and possibly illegal.
If I were Prince Charles tomorrow I would be very cautious about what I said to Harry while they are on their walk, what they say could be in Oprah's hands in a few hours.
I am curious about why the DM used this photo for the article.
So that somebody out there will recognize it, write in about it, they'll be able to write a story about "OMG, PROOF that Harry was spying on the BRF!" and break a huge story while being shocked, SHOCKED that such a thing could happen? (Perhaps they were given a tip?)
"For Charles, as sad as his father's passing undoubtedly has been, the priority now is the reintegration of Harry into royal life."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9484877/RICHARD-KAY-funeral-masterstroke-Charles-just-reunite-warring-sons.html
I am not sure if this is the photo you are referring to -
https://the-best-soap-opera-ever.tumblr.com/post/648816398705000448/i-dont-have-time-to-read-much-more-now-but-did
In this photo, Harry is holding his face mask and is faffing around with it.
Thank you!
I have a zinger
You must travel to London
Become a gunslinger
Get our deserved loot
You just have to shoot
Not highway robbery
With all that Royal snobbery
Shooting Charles through with guilt
Until he caves and he wilts
Then make your mad dash
With all his Duchy cash
Coming back to me
We will live forever, happily
In the Montecito sun
We have already won
Blighty so rainy, so dreary
Why you are here with me
Wills will complain
But it's him
Not us
Who is insane
skippyv20
Refresher!
In December 2016…Prince Charles threw MM out of KP for taking pictures of a private area. She was planning on selling them for up to $250,000.00 dollars! Harry broke up with her shortly after.
She showed up to the Jamaica wedding. She had been invited to the wedding in the fall, as she was with Harry at that time. After Harry broke up with her, everyone assumed she would not attend. Therefore, they did not uninvite her. She showed up….Harry was not happy, did not want to create a scene, so was seated far away from all the other guests. She left the next morning, as she was unwelcomed.
Audi Polo. Harry still spoke to her on the phone, and thought they could still be friends. When she heard about Audi she wanted to attend. He told her no, not to come. She showed up anyway. This was a ticketed event. MA got the tickets and brought her. Harry was shocked. He already had a date lined up. In order to not cause a scene, she was allowed to stay…as she came with a ticket. The next morning, she tried to get on the field again, and was escorted off..and Prince William watched to make sure she left.
The next time she showed, was for Pippa’s wedding. She wanted to be invited. KP put out announcement that Harry would be attending, and nothing mentioned about MM. She arrived in London, and this time could not reach Harry. She snuck out of London, but set up the fake story about being there. She wasn’t.
Next up the VF article. All about how Harry loves her. How happy they are together. Yet, not one quote from Harry. In this article she said…”we have stories to tell”. This article was done to threaten Harry and the BRF…they were ignoring her. They never responded.
Toronto Invictus. Harry never expected for her to show up. Things had been quiet since VF article. Problem solved. Nope! She showed up to Invictus Opening Ceremonies…how? It was a ticketed event. She brought MA, they got tickets from Simon Perry, from People Magazine. That is why she was found in the crowd. They put her there.
So now let’s look at this…
Jamaica Wedding……invitation not rescinded
Audi Polo….TICKET EVENT
Pippa’s Wedding…..NOT invited…one poorly photoshopped picture
VF Article….All about them, but not one quote from Harry…threat to acknowledge her
Toronto Invictus Opening Ceremony…TICKET EVENT…
From December 2016….until….Toronto Invictus…..they were actually seen together 3 times only.
3 times….and yet….got engaged in November 2017…..no one knew she was moving there, regardless of the articles she put out….it didn’t make sense….the BRF didn’t know she was moving there.
She kept a non existent relationship going with 4 PR agencies, JM….and Mio…a couple of reporters.
She is still keeping a non existent relationship going….with the articles she keeps putting out….
1/19/21
from the DM - James Gant's article Charles and william to lead summit:
"Prince Charles had wanted a smaller monarchy made up of the Queen, Prince Philip, himself, his wife the Duchess of Cornwall, the Cambridges and Prince Harry.
Harry had a role to play UNTIL the Cambridge children come of age....."
This was the original plan as i remember involving Harry. Then we had the Queen and three heirs photo, and the "senior royals only" video moment, and Harry left the Firm.
One would hope he wouldn't pull something as nefarious as recording the event but it also wouldn't be a surprise either.
I remember when I was watching the BBC coverage, he was the last or next to last to put on his mask as he was fiddling around with it. I'll try and find the footage.
SwampWoman said...
@JennS, I didn't know about Scottish agate jewelry; it is beautiful!
Agreed, Jenn! Lovely and unusual
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@KCM1212 and SwampWoman
Oh yes it is very lovely! And the story of how it was made popular by Queen V and her love of Balmoral and Scotland makes it even more interesting. I hope you were able to scroll all the way down on that link as that woman has a fabulous collection. My Mom and I always drooled over all her antique jewelry. The brooches are down towards the bottom. The cairngorm stones and various agates and jaspers used are gorgeous. I mentioned them because I'd love to see any of the royal ladies wear one but I particularly love the bracelets which are harder to find.
💓My Mom loved Scottish agate jewelry and got me interested. I have several pieces - some 1800s antique and up through the 1930's. It's still being made but more simple.
I was really upset that she and her minions would parade their "connections" at this time. Especially since she may have exacerbated Philip's illness.
I said the same thing about exacerbating PP's illness on those Oprah/Gayle feedback posts I deleted! Stress can definitely affect your health.
I was thinking tonight about how much Oprah and Gayle have helped the Harkles out. If I remember correctly Gayle got Harry the first paid 'talk' he did in Florida where he whined about his Mummy. Oprah provided the connection to Tyler Perry which got them a jet ride out of Canada and a mansion with free security for a few months. They supposedly stayed at O's while their house was being painted. Oprah provided them with an 'interview' to tell the world their lies. Gayle pushed their lies and narrative endlessly on her morning show. Gayle attended the baby shower. Oprah promoted Meghan's slavery oat milk. Both O and G promote the Harkles on their social media. SMH 😡
I think he may have recorded the voice for Meghan to listen to later if he did record anything. Voice takes a lot less memory than video.
If he did record voice, he was breaking the law as I am 100% certain that Britain has 2 party consent to recording voice.
If Charles's plan was to use Harry until the Cambridge children became working royals, Charles is an idiot. Given that Will wasn't a FT working royal until 2017 (about age 36) Charles would have over 30 years for all of "the children" to "step up." While it's pretty unlikely Charles would still be living then, certainly Harry might be. And being dumped at that point with no further support would have been a big deal for Harry (or anyone else.) I'm not usually sympathetic to Harry but in this case I am. However, I'm not sure that was the plan. "Slimmed down" has always been a vague concept.
That's a helluva payoff for an invitation to a royal wedding. What a shame the other invitees didn't shower them with cash and kind. Or...did they?
I used hidden cameras when home caregivers were taking care of my mother. The cameras were set up around my mother's bed and in the living room, kitchen and dining rooms. Of course, bathrooms didn't have a camera.
On the first day of a new caregiver working for my mother, I would tell them that I have hidden cameras throughout the house, monitored by me, just so that they were informed (that I was watching everything) and given fair warning.
I also had baby monitors around her house for voice, and let the caregivers know about those, too.
I never told them how many cameras and baby monitors I'd set up, where they were or what type they were. Of course, they could see the baby monitor by my mother's bed, so they knew about that, but they were told not to touch them. One caregiver (who was not new, but wanted to play mind games with me)turned the monitor off several times, and I fired her.
Oh, a 'Mac' should definitely have a nice old piece of Scottish pebble jewelry! There are usually a few pieces for sale on ebay but watch out for "miracle" brand pieces which are junky costume versions from the 1950's and up. If you ever decide to get one you can always ask me questions - I love all things old especially jewelery!
Here's what they currently have on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=vintage+scottish+agate+sterling&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=vintage+scottish+agate
You have to be careful though...
This one looks like a nice piece (link below) - hallmarked sterling silver / well designed with thistles. Looks to be in good shape. Looks to be 19th century - but it has a swivel safety catch which wasn't invented until the 1930's. It should have a c-clasp. Many old brooches have newer catches as replacements because people kept them for decades and that's ok. BUT if that catch is original to the brooch - then the brooch is a replica. I would be able to tell by looking at it but I can't tell from the photo provided. It's also a bit odd this one doesn't have all the typical British hallmarks / city and date marks.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-925-STERLING-SILVER-SCOTTISH-AGATE-AMBER-THISTLE-BROOCH-LAPEL-PIN/313472445931?hash=item48fc69edeb:g:ldEAAOSwdehgYcqA
This piece is one of those junky yucky Miracle company replicas from the 1950's -1960's with base metal and plastic or glass stones...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MIRACLE-Celtic-Silver-Tone-metal-with-Scottish-Agate-Brooch-Pin-REPAIR/293969640243?hash=item4471f4bb33:g:RF4AAOSwiI9gDEFv
You'll see a ton of these if you don't add 'sterling' to your keyword search.
Here's a classy-looking kilt brooch with lovely soft muted caramel and cocoa-colored stones. This is a real oldie with a tube hinge and c-clasp /stones set in a granite base.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Victorian-Sterling-Silver-Scottish-Pebble-Agate-Flower-Brooch-Pin/133569694694?hash=item1f195fcbe6:g:eCkAAOSwPjZfp4gJ
I really want to know if QEII has any of QV's unusual materials jewelry - jet / hair / agate / pinchbeck / mosaic !!!
Overall, my conclusion this weekend is that 6 is not merely awful, but somehow dangerously awful, and the family knows it. Catherine (who looked stunningly beautiful, queen-like, sad and respectful) barely tolerated him, in my opinion. I think she was not on a mission of reconnecting the brothers, but rather on a mission to get the hell away from him in a seemly manner, while William also tried to scarf and endure. Astonishing to see 6 behaving as if he can simply walk back in and be embraced like a favorite, after what he+she did. The creepy stare he gave Anne after....and even the way he screwed up the two man walk into the church... plus, when Sophie glanced at him and instantly looked away as they were filing out of the pews...that is what a person who loathes another does. Sophie knows how he hurt HM & PP. He was not sad about PP. He looked like an out of sorts agitated gambler, looking for a relative with a wallet.
Meanwhile,
@jdubya, I am so glad you found that Skippy info on your desktop and reposted JT.
@JennS, imagine me going slowly “ohhhhhhhh” and sitting up straight as I read through your concise but very telling paragraph about all the assists given to the duo by Oprah and Gayle. Save that paragraph. I feel like I just saw a treasure map, with one missing piece. (PS—the first jewelry I remember getting, and still have, is lovely a little Scottish pebble bracelet my father gave me when I was about five.)
@Puds, very interesting info on the possible recording devices. Perhaps he only intended to use it briefly for moments with William. It is legal in the U.K. to record a conversation or phone call, but not legal to share or publicize the content without consent—unless it is in the public interest to do so (as in, you recorded info about a very serious crime). Harry knows nothing about the monarchy he grew up in, so there is no reason to assume he knows recording conversations for his master would be wrong. He did make some odd fumbling movements, and might’ve explained why he was hellbent on catching up to William. So twisted if so.
I fear it is all to further an agenda. A certain divisive one.
There is also the idea that some have proposed about O helping with their home -either by allowing them to actually live on her million-acre estate or contributing money to the mudslide mansion purchase.
The Sussexes have become moochers. I can't believe they lived off of Tyler Perry all that time including allowing him to pay for their security, and then when they left Harry insulted him by saying he didn't like his house - it wasn't his style.🤣
oooooh Do you still have it? Is it sterling? Is it Iona by John Hart? His work was very popular in the 1960's. I had one with connemara marble.
I have a feeling I'm missing more O and G helpful acts - will have to think on it.