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JerseyGirl said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis

Thank you for sharing the link to the Spoon Theory as I haven't read it in many years. I am so sorry to all who are suffering here with real diseases that will never go away without a cure.

I have MS and fibro in constant pain so I understand. When someone gave me the Spoon Theory I wasn't as progressed in my disease, but I appreciated it's sentiment. Now that I am in the end stage of my disease I can appreciate it more today than I ever did before.

It seems to me that I've only met strong people who are suffering in pain (in whatever form it comes in), we are brave, strong, and determined to live. It's wonderful to know no one is suffering alone, that there are communities that can avail us in our journey's. I wish all of you nothing but the best, too many names here for me to remember but I include all!!!!!

Hikari said…
@GWAH

in my city, all big corporations now encourage their employees to donate to a centralized charity that doles out money to various smaller charities. The corporations match the employee donations in some cases. But I never trusted this system although I don't have any information to support my suspicions.

Are you talking about United Way? We've had drives at work to try to get employees to sign up to donate through UW. Like you, I have my concerns that my donation would not be distributed in ways I would choose. Charities this big have a lot of overhead, and UW is like a 'clearing house of charities'. It supports many worthy causes, at least on paper--but if a person wanted to support a particular charity in the list, it would be better for the recipient to go directly to their offices and give them a check, rather than running it through UW, who's going to take a cut for their administrative costs and also, split your contribution amongst all their organizations. So the monies are diluted, and maybe a contributor is not so keen on all the groups vying for their share of the UW pot.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,

yes, United Way
Girl with a Hat said…
I think that the Harrys have heard how much money is to be made by running a foundation or whatever.

I would suggest that there is also a lot of money to be made starting a new religion and I encourage them to try this idea. (mostly because it would finally expose their greediness to people who have yet to be convinced of it)
JerseyGirl said…
@swampwoman - I just received my 1st shot last week and not because I now live at the beach myself. Instead of getting a text or a phone call from my doctor's office I found my notification amongst 2,000 unread emails I have.

I have carpel tunnel and I have neglected my emails for nearly 2 years now. I just started deleting them 2 weeks ago and found my notification way back from late February.

I've become homebound for the past couple of years so it's not as though I'm out and about exposed to a lot of people. I have been seeing my grandson's pretty regularly and that's it, so it's only been my family in the past year.

Hope you get your shot soon and you may have to travel a bit to get an available shot. That's what I had to do unfortunately. But I want my life back to normal as I'm sure billions of other people do and we can't do that without people participating in getting vaccines.

As far as H and MM participating in this global outreach, it's a joke really. I have no doubt that everyone in the United States knows that the vaccine is now available and that they can get a shot. They don't need celebrities promoting something that already exists.

As of a couple of days ago, the United States sent $58 million in unused doses to India to help also with the drive to help. I think just as the UK is sending much needed help, so is America.
HappyDays said…
A request for any nutty who has access to The Teiegraph:

It’s my guess that Meghan inserting herself into the Chrissy Teigen miscarriage narrative to cultivate her and John Legend is the reason why she and Harry suddenly appeared as the chairs of the VAX concert, and it is likely just a result of influence and manipulation by Sunshine Sachs to create Harry and Meghan as chairing this event to get their names associated with it.

Basically, it’s my guess that being chairs was created out of thin air just for image enhancement and publicity for the Sussexes by Sunshine Sachs. It’s just another fraud by Harry and Meghan, who up to this point, haven’t been actively involved in the COVID-19 vaccine campaign effort. If they had been involved, the Oprah interview would have been an optimal platform to at least mention it.

I was only able to read a small part of this Telegraph article from Tuesday, April 27, 2021, but the small bit I was able to read in this article about H&M acting as chairs also mentioned Chrissy Teigen and Subshine Sachs.

Thank you in advance if anyone can copy and paste this article.

Here’s the headline and URL:

Meghan and Harry to lead 'Vax Live' Covid fundraising concert
The royal couple will be joined at the event by Ben Affleck, Chrissy Teigen, David Letterman, Jimmy Kimmel and Sean Penn

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/04/27/harry-meghan-appear-covid-vaccine-concert-alongside-president/
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SirStinxAlot said...

THANK YOU ALL for the thoughts, prayers, voo doo doll rituals, tribal dances, etc

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Well, looks like they all worked! Joining everyone else in big congrats :)
Maneki Neko said…
@HappyDays

There you are:

The Daily Telegraph
28 Apr 2021


Sussexes to promote ‘dollars for doses’ in LA

Duke and Duchess to lead the way with Liveaid-style concert to send more Covid jabs to poor nations

The Daily Telegraph28 Apr 2021By Victoria Ward

THE Duke and Duchess of Sussex will appear at a star-studded event in Los Angeles this weekend to promote coronavirus vaccinations and call on businesses to “donate dollars for doses”.

The concert, featuring an array of celebrities and politicians from Joe

Biden to Jennifer Lopez, has been likened to Live Aid, the 1985 concerts in LA and London that raised millions for famine relief in Africa.

The Sussexes were yesterday named “campaign chairs” of Vax Live, billed as “the concert to reunite the world”.

Among the producers are Shawn Sachs and Keleigh Thomas Morgan, two of the Duchess’s longtime advisers from Sunshine Sachs, a New York PR firm.

The event, to be held on May 2, will form part of the drive to increase public confidence and uptake of the vaccine.

Organisers are calling on G7 governments to share their excess doses and on pharmaceutical companies to make vaccines available at not-for-profit prices. Participants will plead for commitments from governments, the private sector and philanthropists.

The audience, all of whom will have been vaccinated, will be comprised of front-line healthcare and essential workers. The concert will be broadcast on May 8. The Duke and Duchess will deliver “an important global message for vaccine equity” during the event, to be held at the Sofi Stadium in LA.

The couple are said to have been leading a drive to raise funds from the private sector for Covax, the global programme working to provide vaccines for low and middle-income countries.

A spokesman for the Sussexes declined to say whether they would appear in person or on screen. Meghan, 39, is about to start maternity leave and is thought to be expecting their second child, a daughter, in early June.

The couple said in a statement: “Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle – together. Now we need to recover and heal – together. We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

Among other celebrities taking part in the concert will be the Sussexes’ friend and CBS anchor Gayle King, Ben Affleck, Chrissy Teigen, David Letterman, Jimmy Kimmel and Sean Penn.

Hosted by Selena Gomez, it will feature performances from Lopez, Eddie Vedder and Foo Fighters.

The event is being organised by Global Citizen, an anti-poverty action group, in partnership with the White House’s “We Can Do This” initiative to increase public confidence in vaccines. They will ask governments to pledge a total of $19 billion (£13.6 billion), the outstanding balance needed to get 1.8billion vaccine doses plus tests and treatments to the world’s poorest countries by the end of this year.

Emmanuel Macron, Justin Trudeau and Andrej Plenković, the leaders of France, Canada and Croatia respectively, will also appear at the concert.

As part of the campaign, France will start sharing doses for health workers across Africa with an initial donation of 100,000 this month and at least 500,000 by June.
JerseyGirl said…
Forgive me my ignorance on the matter of this campaign drive to get people vaccinated? Why on earth are they taking donations by having this live aid show?

These vaccines are free and available to every single citizen of the United States so no self promoting necessary.

It's just a money making scheme and no one will ever know what happened to the money collected. I'm still wondering what happened to all the money post 9/11 when there were all kinds of charity events like this one.

If this is just a free event to be watched on tv and asking people to get vaccinated? Even if that's the case I would never donate to it or watch it, not interested.
Acquitaine said…
@SwampWoman said…
"MustySyphone said...
@SwampWoman
I read the "Roles of the Campaign Chair" you provided. Still confused how Harry and Harry's wife are right for this job.

Me, too! Most of these celebrity things are a big "LOOK AT ME AND SEE HOW WONDERFUL AND CARING I AM!" rather than for the people in need."

This is a Sunshine Sachs event.

Everyone participating including the charity itself are Sunshine Sachs clients.

We are abput to witness live what 'i scratch your back and you scratch my back' PR synergy looks like.

Any money raised will be incidental to proceedings and more than likely swallowed up by the admin costs of the event.
Mel said…
SirStinxAlot....good news! What a relief!
From where I'm standing:

The AZ vaccine is much cheaper than the others because its sold at cost. No doubt this p*sses off the rest of the big firms. It is easy to transport and handles and doesn't need the same low temperature as the Pfizer.

The Serum Institute of India already manufactures the AZ vaccine under licence.

The EU is playing silly blighters because we no longer have to do what they say.

UK got its act together and set up the manufacturing contracts ahead of the EU - so we were in front of them in the queue.

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According to a virologist we know, the AZ vaccine may be easier to modify in response to new variants.

(We had our 2nd AZ dose 2 weeks ago - side effects were negligible, husband is one of those picked at random to report back about any side effects)

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I think the Wife just smells another opportunity for fame - and putting her fingers in the till.
Acquitaine said…
@Maneki Neko said...
"@HappyDays

There you are:

The Daily Telegraph
28 Apr 2021


Sussexes to promote ‘dollars for doses’ in LA

Duke and Duchess to lead the way with Liveaid-style concert to send more Covid jabs to poor nations

Biden to Jennifer Lopez, has been likened to Live Aid, the 1985 concerts in LA and London that raised millions for famine relief in Africa."

I went to Live-Aid in London. And the following year's Sports-Aid ( Race against time).

This SS concert for vaccines doesn't have the same level of excitement or a sense of anticipation or awareness as those concerts or scale for that matter.

Nor are tv bulletins wall to wall blanket coverage of the crisis in places like India to prompt a public outpouring of charity to help in any way they can.

Subsequent smaller concerts have had greater anticipation and scale than this bilge. Diana's concert in 2007 had more awareness than this.

Labelling this bilge as Live-Aid style is an insult to those and every concert that came after it.



Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Hikari said...
I see 'narcissist' popping up more and more in venues other than here to describe Harry's first ex-wife, but I don't think the extent of MM's disorder has actually permeated into the mainstream quite yet. People puzzle over why she'd blow the Cinderella story she'd worked relentlessly to achieve, only to blow it to smithereens, douse it with petrol and set it on fire, really, within months of becoming a Duchess. Days, really, if we take her shameful performance at Charles' garden party into account, and by then she'd been married all of three days. But she got so many excuses made for her 'adjustment period' and 'cultural differences/misunderstandings,' etc. People that think that Meg's narcissism means that she is just perfectionistic or self-absorbed or likes to micromanage and doesn't take criticism well have just the tip of the iceberg. We all know people with garden-variety 'Stuck on Myself'-itis. But routine personality flaws and interpersonal difficulties do not begin to cover what M has done.

She is monstrously unbalanced. She belongs in a secure psychiatric facility. Due to the person she married, she's got access to the kind of camouflage/protection that money and celebrity buys one, she likely will never face any sort of consequences like that, not even if she ran amok and shaved her head publicly and ran the streets of Montecito naked. For over two years, ever since the Saga of Archie--the shambolic 'Birth Show', followed by the post-partum summer when a series of bizarre public outings showed a woman completely deranged and unravelling, I thought that surely the RF would put a stop to this.
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So did I. But, my guess is one of two things:

1) The RF tried their best to get her in some kind of treatment, which she refused. (Such refusal giving her narcissist ammunition to throw blame back on them for "not helping.")

2) Once they cut her and H loose (nearly completely), they figured she was on her own, and they'd deal with her fallout as it came.

Of course, there's a 3) possibility: They have never had any experience within themselves of this kind of thing, and literally don't recognize it as true mental/personality illness. If they didn't before, they sure should now, IMO.

Yes, you're right, the signs have been there all along.

As for that Vax campaign business, I really don't get why they'd even consider her or H as "campaign chairs." The "movement" is gonna regret it. Of course, it's a vanity project for the wokerati, which welcomes celebrities/quasi-celebrities like H and her to give the impression of some kind of bandwagon. Everyone knows that most countries are managing their COVID vaccinations/cases/death prevention quite well (except for poor India, coping with an ugly mutant strain). Do these "elite" idiots think the pharma companies are going to just give away billions of their money away just to satisfy the idiots' vanity? I should think not. But it's just the kind of lifeline left available to M these days for any kind of fame maintenance/life support/attention-seeking fuel.

Mel said…
In light of the fraud questions around Travalyst and Sussex Royal, I wouldn't want either of those two associated with my charity.
Acquitaine said…
And btw, how magnanimous of France to share it's vaccines to Africa in June!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Girl with a Hat said…
@Acquitaine

Actually, Africa has few covid cases and no one seems to understand why.
The Cat's Meow said…
@Girl With a Hat

I actually think they are already raising money for a new religion, in that this extreme "wokeism" could definitely be seen as one.
O/T

Re COVID vaccination.

I’ve had both mine (AstraZeneca), I was unwell for around 4 days with flu like symptoms and the first night I suffered from insomnia. The 2nd dose, I suffered a little fatigue but that’s all. I drank lots of water prior to and after the vaccination (a nurse told a friend to do so when she had the Pfizer one) so I did the same. I’m took paracetamol and most is side effects abated. My Mum had the same one as me and only suffered from slight fatigue on the 2nd dose.

My sister lives in Continental Europe, and only getting her 1st vaccination today, and she lives in an extremely wealthy country, shocking.
Acquitaine said…
@Girl with a Hat said…
"@Acquitaine

Actually, Africa has few covid cases and no one seems to understand why."

Yes, i know.

My point was specifically about France and it's ongoing position on Africa.

Let me quote 2 of France's past presidents so that you understand my point.

“Without Africa, France will have no history in the 21st century.”

François Mitterrand

“Without Africa, France will slide down into the rank of a third [world] power.”

Jacques Chirac

I invite you to google France's current position with regards Francophone Africa.

Frankly it shocks me that more people are unaware of this situation especially as France doesn't bother to hide it.

Snarkyatherbest said…
Girl with a Hat- some theories - not a lot of testing being done; warmer temps; anti malaria drugs may help with immunity

Rogan - didnt realize they were trying to cancel him again. Spotify employees tried to do it when he was signed on initially (and the stock is still down 10% today)

The dollars for doses - now it makes sense on why harry's wife is involved. hmmmmm who's controlling the money you donate but where does the money go, who is handling it,how much is skimmed of the top for "administrative purposes" Wasnt there some issues with Live-Aid on where the money went?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger The Cat's Meow said...
@Girl With a Hat

I actually think they are already raising money for a new religion, in that this extreme "wokeism" could definitely be seen as one.
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Wokeism does seem to cut across ideological lines, which is worrisome. I have numerous friends and acquaintances across both left and right (I'm libertarian), and many of my staunch left-leaning friends are aghast at how much influence the wokists seem to be gaining. (My right-leaning friends are, IMO, wrongly attributing wokism to the whole of the left spectrum, which is equally worrisome.)

IMO, H and wife cannot only be signing on for "idealism." (Idealistic? Them? Hahaha) I don't believe this Vax vanity project is strictly altruistic. Somewhere, somehow, $$$ is changing hands, and whatever chunk of it they can get, M and H will get.

I note that Sunshine Sax clients are the bulk of the participants. Tells me that if any money is left after paying off the "talent" and themselves, not much will show up as actual vaccinations.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Lt Uhura,

I took a heygo tour of a place yesterday and had to complain to heygo about the wokeism of the tour guide.

She was an American living in Australia who kept calling the British "invaders". I just found this deeply offensive as she could, by the same criteria, be called an invader herself but that irony was lost on her.

It's amazing that people who have legitimate grievances, like the Vietnamese guide I had on heygo was nothing but gracious when talking about the Americans and the French.

Don't spew your proxy bitterness if you want to make money from people having a happy experience, woke tour guides!
Aquitaine said: I invite you to google France's current position with regards Francophone Africa

O/T thought:

I've just read an article in the Jacobin - Oh my! I see what you mean. Might it also explain a few other things as well, such as why migrants from sub-Saharan Africa don't want to stay in France?

I wonder if the Wife could be persuaded to beat up France instead of us?
Pantsface said…
Can anyone explain to me what this Vax Aid event is raising money for? The vaccine is free in the UK, as part of the NHS but not sure if it is in the US? Is the money raised to pay for more doses for those that have to pay for it? I understand the need to reach out to some communities reluctant to take it, but is this a fundraiser and if so what are the funds for - perhaps I've misinterpreted it totally.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Girl with a Hat said...
@Lt Uhura,

I took a heygo tour of a place yesterday and had to complain to heygo about the wokeism of the tour guide.

She was an American living in Australia who kept calling the British "invaders". I just found this deeply offensive as she could, by the same criteria, be called an invader herself but that irony was lost on her.

(Me: "Invader?" Really?! Ugh, they just keep pushing the envelope to more ridiculous lengths)

It's amazing that people who have legitimate grievances, like the Vietnamese guide I had on heygo was nothing but gracious when talking about the Americans and the French.

(Me: In spite of everything the Vietnamese went through from the French AND the Americans, guess whose shores their refugees mostly wound up on, and guess where they've thrived? No surprise you found graciousness from their end, and idiocy from the privileged wokesters.)
Hikari said…
@Girl

Glad to hear you are using the Heygo platform. Just took my 5th tour and enjoyed my lunch with a rainy day tour around Richmond with Paul. If you enjoy vintage Rock and Roll of the Swingin' '60s mixed with a bit of regal history, I can recommend Paul.

I agree that wokeist politics should be shelved, unless the tour is expressly marketed as that kind of perspective. Most users log on for interesting scenery, culture and some historical facts, not political commentary. The company is quite new, less than one year old, and I think a lot of their policies are still in development. The Chat feature on the platform is quite new and the FB administrator said that they are having issues with a lot of negative comments toward the guides, other users, bickering about tips and etc.

I would probably say the best way to express your displeasure is to decline to tip that particular guide or maybe just avoid her tours entirely in the future. Each guide has their little cadre of groupies, and for every user who doesn't like her stance on the British, she's probably got 2 that agree with her.
Kate Kosior said…
Call me naive, but we have a little problem with this whole vaccine issue in the US. Three issues as I see them:

1. We have a cadre of anti-vaxxers who are convinced the vaccine will do everything from causing infertility by merely standing NEXT to a person who has been vaccinated to allowing Bill Gates to control your mind by flipping on a secret microchip inserted into it.

2. The US is becoming increasingly isolationist and xenophobic and many people do not give one sh*t if foreigners get a vaccine because all that means is good God fearin' gun totin' 'Murican's ain't gonna get theirs.

3. Celebrities are seen as out of touch liberal elitists who don't know anything about Joe Average's life, especially because apparently they are busy cannibalizing toddlers.

So along come Harry and Meghan to do what exactly? And this concert is going to do what, exactly? I suppose it will appeal to the most woke among us, but honestly, I'm about as liberal as they come, and I just see this entire thing as folly. Harry and his wife have absolutely NOTHING to offer this situation, and I don't see it uniting the world and making us all throw money at the problem we are facing. If anything, Covid has once and for all shown what a hot mess we're in. The last truly successful endeavor of this type that I think was successful was after 9/11. Now it's just an ego stroking exercise. And I guess that's probably why H&M want in.
Grisham said…
Pantsface, the vaccine is free to all in the US
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari, no, I gave her a bad review to explain what I found offensive about her comments as well as writing an email complaining to the company about her pushing her attitude during something which is supposed to be a pleasant occasion.
JerseyGirl said…
@Kate Kosior said…
Call me naive, but we have a little problem with this whole vaccine issue in the US. Three issues as I see them:

1. We have a cadre of anti-vaxxers who are convinced the vaccine will do everything from causing infertility by merely standing NEXT to a person who has been vaccinated to allowing Bill Gates to control your mind by flipping on a secret microchip inserted into it.

2. The US is becoming increasingly isolationist and xenophobic and many people do not give one sh*t if foreigners get a vaccine because all that means is good God fearin' gun totin' 'Murican's ain't gonna get theirs.

3. Celebrities are seen as out of touch liberal elitists who don't know anything about Joe Average's life, especially because apparently they are busy cannibalizing toddlers.

So along come Harry and Meghan to do what exactly? And this concert is going to do what, exactly? I suppose it will appeal to the most woke among us, but honestly, I'm about as liberal as they come, and I just see this entire thing as folly. Harry and his wife have absolutely NOTHING to offer this situation, and I don't see it uniting the world and making us all throw money at the problem we are facing. If anything, Covid has once and for all shown what a hot mess we're in. The last truly successful endeavor of this type that I think was successful was after 9/11. Now it's just an ego stroking exercise. And I guess that's probably why H&M want in.

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What did I just read? I'm guessing you aren't American and that's just fine, but to put down an entire country based on such little knowledge is a dangerous position to take. IMO.

I wasn't in the WTC's when those planes hit, but I did witness the 2nd plane going into the tower. Here I am 20 years later wondering what happened to all the money that was donated to those live aid concerts. It's like radio silence for 20 years. I hope 100% actually went to the victim's families... I really hope.
JerseyGirl said…
Kate Kosior said…
Call me naive, but we have a little problem with this whole vaccine issue in the US. Three issues as I see them:

I mis-read the first paragraph of your comment, but I still stand by mine. How can you as an American take such a dim view of your own Country? Unless of course you aren't a citizen because we do have an illegal issue in this country.

Maybe you live in a very dangerous community who have the same value even though you live amongst us.
Sturker said…
To those who live in the U.K., have you also been bombarded with various articles about how selfless Hazbeen has been for giving Princess Di's engagement ring to William so Catherine can have it resulting in Hazbeen's future ex wife missing out? My reaction is, thank goodness it's Catherine who's wearing it otherwise Princess Diana would be rolling in her grave many times over that it'll look like it's been plowed.
lizzie said…
While the COVID vaccine is free to patients in the US, it's not actually free here or in Europe. "Pandemic pricing" is in effect though (reduced prices)

"In initial deals with the U.S. government, Pfizer and BioNTech's vaccine costs $19.50 per dose, compared with $15 for Moderna's shot, $16 for Novavax's program, $10 for Johnson & Johnson's vaccine and $4 for AstraZeneca's. Pfizer didn’t take any government development funds for its shot, while other players received various amounts of assistance, and Pfizer was the first to reach the market."

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-eyes-higher-covid-19-vaccine-prices-after-pandemic-exec-analyst

Are the "dollars" to buy doses? It doesn't sound like it since one demand is that the companies give it away.
lucy said…
Better super duper late than not at all?
Emails please 😕
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I would urge everyone to be aware of Operation Warp Speed, which kick-started massive, cooperative research among various government and private agencies to literally fast-track research and development. Much of it came from the armed forces (go Army :)

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319

It was a huge, huge undertaking, across almost all government sectors, in concert with private distribution networks like WalMart, Walgreens, Publix, many others. The press swore that the goal of widely available vaccines by April 2021 was a pipe dream. (They also pooh-poohed the initial U.S. reaction of banning travel, but then turned around and said "not enough" had been done to prevent the virus' entry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Well, here we are, and the bulk of the U.S. is either now vaccinated or has easy and inexpensive access. This all took place from April 2020. By January of this year, all the infrastructure was in place for President Biden to continue. Warp Speed was unprecendented in the history of combating viruses/bacteriological infections.

I wonder if H, his wife or any of the other "luvvies" will mention this, much less give any credit.

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JerseyGirl said…
lizzie said…
While the COVID vaccine is free to patients in the US, it's not actually free here or in Europe. "Pandemic pricing" is in effect though (reduced prices)

"In initial deals with the U.S. government, Pfizer and BioNTech's vaccine costs $19.50 per dose, compared with $15 for Moderna's shot, $16 for Novavax's program, $10 for Johnson & Johnson's vaccine and $4 for AstraZeneca's. Pfizer didn’t take any government development funds for its shot, while other players received various amounts of assistance, and Pfizer was the first to reach the market."

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-eyes-higher-covid-19-vaccine-prices-after-pandemic-exec-analyst

Are the "dollars" to buy doses? It doesn't sound like it since one demand is that the companies give it away.

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America isn't getting free vaccines, every single taxpayer, myself included, pays for the 'free' vaccine. Even those who refuse to get the shot are paying.\
JerseyGirl said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I would urge everyone to be aware of Operation Warp Speed, which kick-started massive, cooperative research among various government and private agencies to literally fast-track research and development. Much of it came from the armed forces (go Army :)

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319

It was a huge, huge undertaking, across almost all government sectors, in concert with private distribution networks like WalMart, Walgreens, Publix, many others. The press swore that the goal of widely available vaccines by April 2021 was a pipe dream. (They also pooh-poohed the initial U.S. reaction of banning travel, but then turned around and said "not enough" had been done to prevent the virus' entry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Well, here we are, and the bulk of the U.S. is either now vaccinated or has easy and inexpensive access. This all took place from April 2020. By January of this year, all the infrastructure was in place for President Biden to continue. Warp Speed was unprecendented in the history of combating viruses/bacteriological infections.

I wonder if H, his wife or any of the other "luvvies" will mention this, much less give any credit.

Yes to this. Thanks to so many for making all of this possible. I still have trouble though, understanding the point of this event involving H and MM. But then I'm always suspicious of anyone trying to get money from other's with no clear outline how that money is actually going to those who need it.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...

America isn't getting free vaccines, every single taxpayer, myself included, pays for the 'free' vaccine. Even those who refuse to get the shot are paying.\
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Even I, as a Veteran, still pay taxes, so my vaccine may be "free," it's still not.

Still, it's now on a par with the contraceptive pill. No way a punitive cost.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...
@swampwoman - I just received my 1st shot last week and not because I now live at the beach myself. Instead of getting a text or a phone call from my doctor's office I found my notification amongst 2,000 unread emails I have.


Oh, I am so sorry for the confusion, JerseyGirl. That was a reply to Jocelyn'sBellinis who has not yet received her first shot. I received my first and second Pfizer vaccine in March (I'm under 65.) JB lives on the west coast in Washington, I believe, but it could be Oregon; I'm down here in the southeast in Florida a half hour inland from the Atlantic. Life here has been back to normal for a year except for the 50-years-old and older people that masked out of caution (that was me). *Nobody* wears masks outside and at the beach unless they're not from around here.
JerseyGirl said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...



Even I, as a Veteran, still pay taxes, so my vaccine may be "free," it's still not.

Still, it's now on a par with the contraceptive pill. No way a punitive cost.

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Thank you for your service. I agree it's definitely not a punitive cost. I'm just happy that it all eventually came together beautifully and even more lives are being saved.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I would urge everyone to be aware of Operation Warp Speed, which kick-started massive, cooperative research among various government and private agencies to literally fast-track research and development. Much of it came from the armed forces (go Army :)

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319

It was a huge, huge undertaking, across almost all government sectors, in concert with private distribution networks like WalMart, Walgreens, Publix, many others. The press swore that the goal of widely available vaccines by April 2021 was a pipe dream. (They also pooh-poohed the initial U.S. reaction of banning travel, but then turned around and said "not enough" had been done to prevent the virus' entry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Well, here we are, and the bulk of the U.S. is either now vaccinated or has easy and inexpensive access. This all took place from April 2020. By January of this year, all the infrastructure was in place for President Biden to continue. Warp Speed was unprecendented in the history of combating viruses/bacteriological infections.

I wonder if H, his wife or any of the other "luvvies" will mention this, much less give any credit.

Yes to this. Thanks to so many for making all of this possible. I still have trouble though, understanding the point of this event involving H and MM. But then I'm always suspicious of anyone trying to get money from other's with no clear outline how that money is actually going to those who need it.

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I'm old enough to remember Band-Aid, Live Aid, whatever Aid. I was naive enough to think all of the money raised, or at least most, would go to actual infrastructure, resulting in actual food, etc.

Ha ha ha! I would have to dive down the rabbit hole to reclaim memories of articles detailing just how these events were scammed. Not a lot of time just now. But suffice it to say, the whole idealism trip was totally consumed by greed for the "artists" and the scammers alike.

Shakespeare said there is nothing new under the sun. George Santayana said those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

The H's and M's of this world will keep popping up time and time again, with a fresh new crop of willing rubes.

/cynicism off
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...

Thank you for your service. I agree it's definitely not a punitive cost. I'm just happy that it all eventually came together beautifully and even more lives are being saved.
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Thanks for your thanks, a pleasure and honor to serve :)

I'm happy that it came together too, and so proud my Army played a big part.

Just sad that the wokesters will totally ignore the huge effort it took to get to this point. And either give credit, or take credit, from so many incredible peoples' efforts, and pretend that they were theirs.
Hikari said…
@Girl

@Hikari, no, I gave her a bad review to explain what I found offensive about her comments as well as writing an email complaining to the company about her pushing her attitude during something which is supposed to be a pleasant occasion.

Well, it sounds like you've hit all the bases available in terms of expressing yourself. The tips and positive reviews are the bread and butter of this business, so if any individual guides consistently receive poor reviews and low tips, the company will encourage them to refrain from certain comments or else they may get dropped from the roster, especially since you have taken it upstairs to the next level.

My time zone makes Australian tours incompatible with my schedule since Oceania/Asia all occur in the middle of the night in Ohio. So I have not personally experienced this particular tour guide. Let's hope she was a one-off. Everyone I've had so far has been very nice, inclusive and well-informed.
Hikari said…
Shakespeare said there is nothing new under the sun. George Santayana said those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

And millennia before him, Ecclesiastes expressed the very same. Humankind has always been easily bored and derivative, it seems.
JerseyGirl said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…


I'm old enough to remember Band-Aid, Live Aid, whatever Aid. I was naive enough to think all of the money raised, or at least most, would go to actual infrastructure, resulting in actual food, etc.

Ha ha ha! I would have to dive down the rabbit hole to reclaim memories of articles detailing just how these events were scammed. Not a lot of time just now. But suffice it to say, the whole idealism trip was totally consumed by greed for the "artists" and the scammers alike.

Shakespeare said there is nothing new under the sun. George Santayana said those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

The H's and M's of this world will keep popping up time and time again, with a fresh new crop of willing rubes.

/cynicism off

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I'm old enough to remember those same events. Bandaids, love it!

I believe this is just a new version of the same scam, because it doesn't feel legit to me. When the most vunerable are dying all over the world, these folks are looking to scam and yes get away with it too!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Hikari said...
Shakespeare said there is nothing new under the sun. George Santayana said those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

And millennia before him, Ecclesiastes expressed the very same. Humankind has always been easily bored and derivative, it seems.
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I'd be interested to hear your views on the cycles of history, that is, prosperity/plenty followed/paralleled by unrest, and whether, or how, boredom and derivitaveness were factors ... i.e., rises and falls of empires. But, to do so would invite derailment and off-topicness on a scale not seen since Erich Fromme and J.P. Sartre :)

However, sticking to H and wife as our topics at hand, certain figures seem to inhabit two spheres. One, the royal one, goes back to similar figures who were spoilers, as it were, but who were either ruthlessly eliminated, such as the Queen of Scots (IMO) or marginalized (such as the Duke of Windsor). I hate to give H and wife even the fringe respect of such a status, but H is still royal.

The other is celebritydom, the world which H and wife seek to inhabit. So fleeting, so thirsty, as the saying goes. So, they wish to be both.

Plus, they're both stoned out of their gourds most of the time, IMO. The drug of the immediate. Celebrity. I've been saying this all along.

Very long speculation short ... they are a train wreck, the end of which will be sooner, rather than later. I'm mean enough to hope so, anyway.



SwampWoman said…
JerseyGirl said:
I'm old enough to remember those same events. Bandaids, love it!

I believe this is just a new version of the same scam, because it doesn't feel legit to me. When the most vunerable are dying all over the world, these folks are looking to scam and yes get away with it too!


I agree. Plus, the people that are nominally in charge aren't qualified to be in charge of much of anything.
xxxxx said…
SirStinxAlot said...
GOOD NEWS!!!!
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Very nice!!!! Now you can relax a bit.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JerseyGirl said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…

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I'm old enough to remember those same events. Bandaids, love it!

I believe this is just a new version of the same scam, because it doesn't feel legit to me. When the most vunerable are dying all over the world, these folks are looking to scam and yes get away with it too!
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Hahaha, Willie Nelson, wasn't there a Country Aid of some kind? :D

Seriously though, you are right to feel it isn't legit. Never was. I have yet to see any documentation of these "artists" ever doing anything meaningful. Seems to me I remember Sean Penn and/or Brad Pitt creating homes for hurricane victims that fell apart in the first six months. Penn "loooooooved" Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who went on to basically r*pe his country. And so on, *sigh* It's all about virtue-signaling, "look at me."

Remind you of anyone? Not mentioning any names, MEGHAN AND HARRY.
Pantsface said…
@SirStinxAlot - so pleased to hear your news, now deep breath and relax... Onwards and upwards as my mum would say :)
JHanoi said…
sorry to burst anyones bubble, but nothing in life is free.

it’s been paid for either by the end user consumer, in the US by insurance companies /feds thru insurance monthly payments or taxes and of course insurance co-pays. Taxes have also paid for alot of the fast tracked research and development, and probably also some or all of the the raw materials needed to produce the vaccines. im not exactly sure how the defense act that both trump and biden used works financially.

additionally, the worker bees at aztra, moderna, J&J, etc. don’t work for free and desrve to be paid for all their hard work to R & D and manufacture/distribute, etc the vaccines.

nothing is free.

that said in the US the end vaccine is nearly payment free at the time of recept because it’s already been paid for thru taxes. and the UK has the NHS and again, taxes pay for the NHS so its ‘perceived’ as free to the end consumer.

sadly other countries like India, Brazil are struggling for a variety of reasons. India also manufactures these vaccines which s even more frustrating and in the US, we were sitting on a huge supply of the non-FDA approved vaccine for a couple of months, in a warehouse collecting dust. if we’re not using it/ approving it, we should be donating it to India! or other struggling countries., its appalling its been collecting dust for months.

the guy at the top should be exectutive ordering that, JH and his wife, are a waste and only out for PR and $
SwampWoman said…
"Lt. Nyota Uhuru said: Hahaha, Willie Nelson, wasn't there a Country Aid of some kind? :D

Farm aid. But this time, it will be different than all the other times before!
JerseyGirl said…
SwampWoman said…
JerseyGirl said:
I'm old enough to remember those same events. Bandaids, love it!

I believe this is just a new version of the same scam, because it doesn't feel legit to me. When the most vunerable are dying all over the world, these folks are looking to scam and yes get away with it too!

I agree. Plus, the people that are nominally in charge aren't qualified to be in charge of much of anything.
April 28, 2021 at 10:20 PM

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The promoter will get the lions share of this event! I'd have to see video proof that any donated money went directly to (who?) where ever it's suppose to be supporting. I want to see every single 'celebrity' carrying boxes of the vaccine out of the manufacturers buildings, getting on the flights, and fly to the exact location to distribute those much needed vaccines. Even then I'd be looking with one eye open in case I fell asleep watching.

I picture some rich people sitting around getting stoned out in Cali, coming up with this scheme and laughing while saying 'That's brilliant' let's do it... and here we are!
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/04/blind-item-5_28.html
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 2021

"Blind Item #5
The alliterate one - "How can we do something to help the world unite and at the same time be self serving?"

A list celebrity/former co-star - "OMG right. Like, I wish I could just take a wand and make it all go away while doing an IG live. I know what will make everyone happy. A concert."

The alliterate one - "Right? Like this could be our Live Aid, except better. And with Zoom, we don't have to do anything except find some people to play in their living rooms. I would help, but you know I am pregnant and I need to save my strength for some pap appearances before giving birth. I don't know anyone, and you do, so you line everyone up and I will make myself and husband campaign chairs because, well you know, royalty."

A list celebrity/former co-star - "I don't know anyone either, but will get my husband to line everyone up. Oh, except for the President. I will sign him up."

The alliterate one - "Well, don't tell him I am running for President because he might cancel. What should we call this? Live Vax? Live Aid 2? Oh, how about Vax Live?"

A list celebrity/former co-star - "Perfect. And the tag line can be Can't Leave Anybody Behind."

The alliterate one - "That is so good. Like your tags are amazing and you know me so well, because I have never left anyone behind in my wake of destruction to get to the top."

A list celebrity/former co-star - "Thank you! I stand in front of my mirror all day trying out tag lines in case I get to be a Housewife."

The alliterate one - "The world doesn't know how much they need us.""
JerseyGirl said…
ConstantGardener33

Just reading that blind item cracked me up. I wrote a much shorter version of the same exact thing directly above your comment.


@JerseyGirl haha we posted at the same time, no wonder I hadn't seen it! It's such a scam by the 2 grifters. I hope it bombs.
hunter said…
Hey guys I've been lurking on Twitter and found some good gossip in the comments from one of TorontoPaper's lone (and last) tweets from Feb 21.

https://twitter.com/kennn21710790/status/1363697321825996806

According to the people in there, she has been staying at West Hollywood Soho House AND somebody wrote this:

"I have a friend in Canada who works for the same muti international company I do. She said rachel never actually got to join Soho house until she got engaged to Harry. She wasn't a member Jessica would take around as a guest and that's the way it always was & for dates"

HA.

Another woman seems to post the papers from their mortgage, someone else can look at that. Other people think she is staying at Oprah's but I found the bit about her SH membership to be amusing.

SwampWoman said…
JHanoi said: sadly other countries like India, Brazil are struggling for a variety of reasons. India also manufactures these vaccines which s even more frustrating and in the US, we were sitting on a huge supply of the non-FDA approved vaccine for a couple of months, in a warehouse collecting dust. if we’re not using it/ approving it, we should be donating it to India! or other struggling countries., its appalling its been collecting dust for months.


I hate to use the following word, but the "optics" of donating a vaccine that is deemed too *dangerous for use in the USA to an ally is not good. I'm sure that a lot of thought went into what can be sent that they could utilize immediately.

*Danger is relative. Here, the perceived danger of the vaccine may outweigh the perceived risks of the virus. There, people may trample each other to get it because the danger of the COVID variant outweighs the danger of the vaccine.
xxxxx said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SwampWoman said...

I hate to use the following word, but the "optics" of donating a vaccine that is deemed too *dangerous for use in the USA to an ally is not good. I'm sure that a lot of thought went into what can be sent that they could utilize immediately.

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^^ This.

The choice is either take your chances on death or do what you can to mitigate it. That's what people have done. In the old days of Typhoid Mary and the Spanish Flu*, they didn't have any more choice. Now we do. Especially in these days of unbelievable scientific advances, using machinery and testing techniques never seen in history. Not to mention medical care.

We've never had it so good. Risk is always with us. But the weapons against this thing are formidable. We may never beat it into oblivion, but we will beat it back to normal life.

*Spanish Flu .... I. DON'T. CARE. IF. THAT. WAS. ITS. NAME, NOR WHETHER IT ORIGINATED IN SPAIN. THAT'S WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS. TAKE YER PC AND SHOVE IT.

//shouting off
Pantsface said…
google Vax aid and it directs you to pumps for erectile dysfunction :)
jessica said…
Why wouldn’t Meghan be able to pay for a soho house membership?

I mean, you have middle class friends in London who’ve been members since 2012/13ish. When they joined I thought it was funny and absurd. It was very ‘nueve art crowd’. The wannabe monies hipsters Of East London, advertising/real estate/ wannabe tech crowd of Shorditch. It paved the way for the lesser earner to be in a club, whereas most other clubs are restricted to multiple friend referrals in high high places (and the accompanying fees).

I don’t think Meghan paid for her membership due to being besties with the head of membership (what’s his face?) and her love of freebies. It was probably just comped.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger jessica said...

I don’t think Meghan paid for her membership due to being besties with the head of membership (what’s his face?) and her love of freebies. It was probably just comped.
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This is a whole underworld that I never was familiar with. I've no doubt sexual favors were traded, much as they have been throughout history ... just not familiar with what today's version might be.

The whole thing leaves me wanting to take a shower.
jessica said…
Right. And it fits Meghan to the T. She uses people, doesn’t pay, and moves on. Sounds actually just like Harry. She exploits her age and vulnerability on unknowns. Jessica is a really unattractive woman. She needed the glamour of a two bit actress. It’s better in the clubs to move in pairs as women. They get more attention that way. Groups are harder to infiltrate. Two women? Open season.

Also, what is interesting is that SoHo house swings really young. This isn’t old money. This is wannabe money. Meghan must have been searching for a young dumb guy (see: Harry). The typical member is under 30, post college/uni. It’s the club for new professionals, I guess you could say.

Markus (just recalled his name lol) probably enjoys the younger dumb crowd just as much as Meghan.

Easy to exploit.
JerseyGirl said…
ConstantGardener33 said…
@JerseyGirl haha we posted at the same time, no wonder I hadn't seen it! It's such a scam by the 2 grifters. I hope it bombs.

Yes that is funny...

Unfortunately grifters will always grift. In this case there are a lot of gullible people who worship celebrities as if they are gods and throw money at this cause.

I call it the Kardashian effect, people following them, spending money they don't even have just to have a product they are promoting. Now these people are that much poorer and the Kardashian's are laughing all the way to the bank with their billions.
Mom Mobile said…
@Hunter That Twitter thread. What a find! I love the "Dates" tweet with the LMFAO emoji 'cause that's what I'm doing right now.
Girl with a Hat said…
Catherine and William release their 10 year anniversary pics. And, they're lovely

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1429430/Kate-middleton-prince-william-wedding-anniversary-2021-royal-pictures-prince-philip
Girl with a Hat said…
an interesting article about Lord Geidt

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9522745/RICHARD-KAY-Toughest-gig-aide-Queen-parachute.html
Natalier said…
India produces vaccine too.

After they got over the first wave, they were in such celbratory mood and obviously felt invincible, they sold way the vaccines allocated for their own country.

It sounds harsh and even cruel but they did it to themselves.

Yes, we should help them in their hour of need but they really need to examine how they have been reckless with election polling, massive celebrations and more after the first wave. They also need to examine their hygiene level.
Fifi LaRue said…
While vacationing at a very nice resort two Xmas's ago, I was talking with one of the resort people/waiter/bartender who told me he had worked at a high-end store in NYC. Ethel Kennedy would come in to shop, and pull a charge cards to pay for her purchases. The card would get denied, and she'd pull out dozens of charge cards--they'd all get denied. He told me they just rang up the sale, and let her take the items home. Which brings me to Harry's wife. She took the millions upfront from Netflix and from Spotify, produced one show and that was it. I suspect she's just going to keep the money, do nothing more, and pull the same scam with other companies. Who's going to publicly sue Prince Harry of the UK? No one. It will probably get written off as bad debt by the companies.
Ziggy said…
@Girl with a Hat
Lol one of the photo tags on the Express anniversary photos says "Kate Middleton and the Prince Harry shared two new pictures"
Girl with a Hat said…
@Fifi,

I doubt Hairy has seen any money from Spotify and only a small amount from Netflix
jessica said…
SirStinxAlot,

Wow! Incredible news. You’ve been in my thoughts- great to get such a fantastic update. Congratulations!!!!
@Lt. Uhura,

You're right about Brad Pitt's houses in New Orleans. The first problem with them was that the poor people who lost everything couldn't afford to buy them. Those who could afford them learned quickly that they weren't built to last.

As for Sean Penn, he's been looked at for fraud for his charity work in Haiti.
Evidently, Harry is using a diplomatic passport, and that means Harry's wife can't divorce him in California. From the Express:

'Harry's diplomatic passport means if Meghan begins any divorce proceedings, the US State Department will suspend them.

On Instagram, one person wrote: "An aspect that Meghan has not considered is that she cannot divorce Harry in California because he has diplomatic immunity so if she begins proceedings that State Department will step in and suspend proceedings.

"Meghan can only divorce Harry in London where his diplomatic immunity does not apply."
Snarkyatherbest said…
India - its not just vaccines they now need supplies China is now restricted cargo planes from flying into India (cue the irony). china is the biggest supplier of medical PPE (masks, gloves gowns) India has many places of abject poverty. Nipping covid in the bud will be a sh!t show. its gonna get worse. Its such a sad situation

SirStinxAlot -congrats!!!!

Fifi - Netflix has content assets (including production in process) of roughly $25B at the end of last year So even a $150MM deal (which i doubt they got in cash up front) is less than 1% of those assets. The write off would be buried.

back to work for me - busy busy day
SwampWoman said…
Snarkyatherbest said...
India - its not just vaccines they now need supplies China is now restricted cargo planes from flying into India (cue the irony). china is the biggest supplier of medical PPE (masks, gloves gowns) India has many places of abject poverty. Nipping covid in the bud will be a sh!t show. its gonna get worse. Its such a sad situation.


Things that make you go hmmmmm. Also things that make you go hmmmmm is that the USA is allowing flights from India.
xxxxx said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
Evidently, Harry is using a diplomatic passport, and that means Harry's wife can't divorce him in California. From the Express:
'Harry's diplomatic passport means if Meghan begins any divorce proceedings, the US State Department will suspend them.
On Instagram, one person wrote: "An aspect that Meghan has not considered is that she cannot divorce Harry in California because he has diplomatic immunity so if she begins proceedings that State Department will step in and suspend proceedings.
"Meghan can only divorce Harry in London where his diplomatic immunity does not apply."


This recalls the slippery, sly Mick Jagger who "married" Jerry Hall in a Hindu ceremony in Bali. When she filed for divorce in London, Hall discovered that this marriage is not valid in UK courts. IIRC Jagger still laid a posh property or two on Hall after their non-divorce. After all, they did have a few children together. Her Wiki says four offspring.

"Hall had a Hindu wedding ceremony with Mick Jagger in 1990 in Bali, although a court later ruled the ceremony was not legally binding when they split up 9 years later."
Ava C said…
@Girl with a Hat - thanks for the interesting article about Lord Geidt. Here's another phone, just out in The Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/28/christopher-geidt-ex-royal-aide-well-equipped-for-downing-street-test

Now is obviously the time when we'll learn more about the man who could have dealt with the Sussexes - if Princes Charles and Andrew had let him get on with it. What a loss.

I love the two new photos of William and Catherine. I'm going to watch their wedding again later today (just past midnight here, UK time), to mark their anniversary. See how modest Catherine's veil is compared to you know who!

@SirStinxALot - so happy about your job news. Congratulations!

@Hikari - wholeheartedly agree with everything you said about M as usual, especially I swear if I have to read 'heavily pregnant' one more time, I will hurl something heavy and breakable at the wall. This is called 'overgilding the lily', an MM specialty. To emphasize that yes, she is INDEED PREGNANT (Really, really, no joke) .. she can't just be normal-lady pregnant. I can't recall another case like this. Even Sophia Loren, who had to spend months in bed to avoid losing her baby, at the height of her career, never made a fuss remotely like this. Why does no one comment in the MSM? Just one little circumspect comment. I read an article that made my blood boil on this subject. I'll find it and put it in a separate post.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
Evidently, Harry is using a diplomatic passport, and that means Harry's wife can't divorce him in California. From the Express:

'Harry's diplomatic passport means if Meghan begins any divorce proceedings, the US State Department will suspend them.

On Instagram, one person wrote: "An aspect that Meghan has not considered is that she cannot divorce Harry in California because he has diplomatic immunity so if she begins proceedings that State Department will step in and suspend proceedings.

"M***n can only divorce Harry in London where his diplomatic immunity does not apply."
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Whoosh. Bam.

This has GOT to be the RF's doing.

And if she tries it, soooo sollly.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*regaining control of self* *thinking out loud*

Okay, there's little A and the newest moonbump to consider. M could still come up with some kind of blackmail, so won't celebrate too prematurely.

But, there goes the zillions of $$$ for sure. Plus any kind of future in showbiz that means anything.

😈
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman

On a recent flight from India to Hong Kong, all passengers presented a certificate that they had tested negative to covid but upon landing, 79 passengers failed their covid test.

Also, people have found a way of getting around travel bans - simply go to a country that hasn't banned flight from your country, and then go on to the USA or elsewhere from there.

To beat the body temperature check, people take Aspirin to lower their body temperatures before the flight.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Jocelyn'sBellinis said...
@Lt. Uhura,

You're right about Brad Pitt's houses in New Orleans. The first problem with them was that the poor people who lost everything couldn't afford to buy them. Those who could afford them learned quickly that they weren't built to last.

As for Sean Penn, he's been looked at for fraud for his charity work in Haiti.
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Yes.

How quickly people forget. The Vax thing will be just the same.
DeerAngels said…
As it's all SS clients. Is this during these tough times the only way they can pay for PR?

Presenting Prince CHIMPO ED Mount-Batten. Next episode any moment.
Grisham said…
I thought Harry was on the special persons with special achievement or whatever visa, an O something.

How can he have a diplomatic visa when he isn’t working for the royal family any more?
Ava C said…
Separate post as promised about the moonbump. From Grazia (enough said). May have been picked up by another Nutty when it came out in Feb. If so, apologies:

Meghan Markle And The Moonbump: Why Are So Many People Convinced She's Faking Her Pregnancy?

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/parenting/meghan-markle-fake-pregnancy-rumours/

Here's the bit that made my blood boil. It follows the usual playing of the race card which I won't deign to cover here.

As an actress-turned-princess, Meghan Markle is, by definition, enigmatic. Most people will never meet her, she lives behind a wall of security and royal protocol, she is forced by her position to be as distant, unknowable and neutral as any high profile diplomatic figure or head of state. She is, therefore, a vacuum into which we can pour our every fear, hope, theory and trauma. It doesn’t take a huge amount of psychological insight to suggest that those people claiming she’s faking symptoms and waddling around beneath a giant inflatable belly are, consciously or unconsciously, deeply unsettled and uncertain about their own bodies, fertility, status, intentions and actions. To snipe, criticise, doubt and attack a stranger during one of the most intimate and precarious periods of her life, says far more about you, the slanderer, than her, the victim.

To which I only need to say "What about Catherine? According to your argument she should be equally 'unknowable' and 'enigmatic' as 'she lives behind a wall of security and royal protocol'. If not more so, as a more senior royal. Yet all three of her children were straightforward announcements following the protocol familiar over many years to the British people. The Cambridge births were moments of uncomplicated national celebration. Milestones to remember with unclouded, unperplexed affection.

Why the difference? Why does the Sussex birth stand out as a complete one-off? A total muddle of misleading, indeed false announcements? A confused timeline? An inexplicable press call to only selected journalists (favouring the US over the UK) in the stables at Windsor Castle, the new father behaving like a trespasser expecting to be caught at any moment? A reference to the baby changing in the past two weeks when the birth supposedly was far more recent? No royal doctors in attendance? No signatures? That mystery maintained to this day?

Now we are supposed to accept the birth of another child into the royal succession, this time in a foreign country, planned to be at home, away from every single safeguard intended to avoid "warming-pan babies" for over three centuries?

Having got that out of my system at nearly 1 a.m., goodness knows how I'll get any sleep ... Like some other Nutties, I actually dreamt about the Sussexes the night before last. Why do we put ourselves through this? Waiting ... waiting ... waiting ... for truth and justice. THE truth.
@Ava C,

Great rebuttal to the Harry's wife's stan's comment about her pregnancy! Bravo!

And to the person who said they're going to scream if they hear "heavily pregnant' one more time. I agree. They make pregnancy sound like an illness, and she uses that to her advantage.

"I'm so heavily pregnant, you must have sympathy for me." Unlike most women who go to work every day, almost to the day of birth.
Elsbeth1847 said…
My goodness. That diplomatic passport would be a game changer in the same way "of the body" is.

And, just how easy would it be to return to the UK? I don't know if she would be legally required to return (meaning could she pay people to file for her while she stays in LA)? I don't know. It would have to be some really interesting reasons as to why she could not return and really might harm her case - especially if she is to do something like produce her body for DNA testing (and the kids for comparisons) to avoid the potential of fraudulently giving faked DNA (there was a case where the fake mother was making the daughter put something from the mother in the mouth so that the swab would pick up the non-bio mom instead of the real kid's DNA).

sigh, sometimes it just doesn't pay to try to grab for the shiny ring in a not straightforward manner. Or, the idea that you really should go into marriage (a legal relationship) and knowing all the funny little details in addition to what the culture of the family is before you announce your commitment.

Soho memberships vary in costs. There are only member at this one house or you can be in all houses and your age factors in. It may vary by country and or city. It looks like a couple thou.


Sir S! that was great news to read today. Bravo!
JHanoi said…
so the whole Vax Live co-chair thing was announced today or yesterday.

Was the timing on the first wife’s Grid calendar plan to coincide with the Cambridges 10 year anniversary? and hikack their PR?
JHanoi said…
or perhaps on the SS Grid Planf or their clients?
What an interesting article from the Express(re divorce and diplomatic immunity). What an odd thing to come out now, yes? How often does an instagram comment get written about in a newspaper like this? Have there been rumblings or other chatter? Is someone trying to throw H's wife for a loop?
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@ConstantGardner33

“What an interesting article from the Express(re divorce and diplomatic immunity). What an odd thing to come out now, yes? How often does an instagram comment get written about in a newspaper like this? Have there been rumblings or other chatter? Is someone trying to throw H's wife for a loop?”

Maybe it’s a warning shot from the RF. If Harry really is on a Diplomatic passport, maybe HM didn’t have it pulled for a reason. I’ve always said HM is playing the long game.
xxxxx said…
So Harry has to be in London for Megs to divorce him? I can see how Megzy can have her UK lawyers drag Hapless into court when he gets back onto UK soil, to initiate this action, while Megzy remains in California. Megzy to appear later on, in person, in the UK courts, when the real divorce proceedings begin.

What is key, is that Hapless must be in the UK for a visit or permanently.
punkinseed said…
As far as the great need for vaccines for India goes, the USA and other nations are sending oxygen, vaccines, other aide, but get this: China was asked by India to be good neighbors and help them out after India initially helped them. China govt. CCP said ok, we'll send you aide and then turned around and refused to let the planes with supplies to leave China for India because of some deliberate 2 faced SNAFU!
So when people start in about how the USA isn't helping India in a timely manner, oh yes we are, and we keep our word but obviously the CCP are being dirty double crossers. And NO I did not get this information from a conspiracy news site. I got it from the official China news program that is run by Chinese ex pats and is not run or censored by the CCP.
I feel so sorry for India right now. I can't imagine being part of anything to do with the "look at meeeeee" Harry's wife using this disaster to feed her narcissistic supply and demands.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger punkinseed said...
As far as the great need for vaccines for India goes, the USA and other nations are sending oxygen, vaccines, other aide, but get this: China was asked by India to be good neighbors and help them out after India initially helped them. China govt. CCP said ok, we'll send you aide and then turned around and refused to let the planes with supplies to leave China for India because of some deliberate 2 faced SNAFU!
So when people start in about how the USA isn't helping India in a timely manner, oh yes we are, and we keep our word but obviously the CCP are being dirty double crossers. And NO I did not get this information from a conspiracy news site. I got it from the official China news program that is run by Chinese ex pats and is not run or censored by the CCP.
I feel so sorry for India right now. I can't imagine being part of anything to do with the "look at meeeeee" Harry's wife using this disaster to feed her narcissistic supply and demands.
_____

Thank you.

The whole Vax vanity thing ignores this and other things like Operation Warp Speed. Personally, it makes me sick at my stomach.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ punkinseed

*almost literally.
punkinseed said…
Natalier, I agree with you in some respects, but the extreme poverty in India is why the poor people accept such low living standards. Many just don't know no better as my gramma from the Ozarks would say. "Any better gramma!" "That's what I jest sayed! They don't know no better!"
The biggest shame is their sanitation, yes. I just saw a show about why public defecation is still so very much "accepted" as the people have some very old beliefs of who should remove and how to remove night soils.
If Harry's wife and his royal self really wanted to help India, they'd launch an all out movement to fix India's sanitation problems for good. OH wait, she doesn't care cuz she has what? 14 bathrooms, while ignoring the fact that most people in India have nowhere safe and sanitary to use.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ punkinseed,

One of these days, I would like to publish my own documentary about how many times our Navy, Army, Air Force and Marines have gone around the world at times of disaster, earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, giving our supply ships, our hospital ships, anything that is needed.

Same thing with the Royal Navy.

I would like to see a record of this. It would be substantial. Even little things, like churches sending food, toys, sanitary products, so many things behind the scenes.

And then I would like to see some wokeist ..... well, no. I don't think I could stand it.
punkinseed said…
Lt, me too! I worked at the Tacoma Pierce Co. health dept for years in the On site sewage dept. It's EASY to make a safe and reliable system, so it's very hard for me to understand why all these charities can't manage to really use their donations to build systems with safe bathrooms and clean water.
Makes me sick too.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger punkinseed said...
Lt, me too! I worked at the Tacoma Pierce Co. health dept for years in the On site sewage dept. It's EASY to make a safe and reliable system, so it's very hard for me to understand why all these charities can't manage to really use their donations to build systems with safe bathrooms and clean water.
Makes me sick too.
_____

So sorry you are in Tacoma, hope you're not having to cope with simply walking without worrying about needles. Tents, etc. Pretty obvious that your supervisors have pretty much said, oh, well.

Point is, clean water and sanitation is supposed to be part of our shared experience. Yeah? So, why isn't it being maintained?

Let's hear what the H's have to say about it, as they have so much experience .... ;)

punkinseed said…
Lt. LOL. NO. I have never lived in Tacoma. I lived about 30 miles east, then moved to Idaho about ten years ago. Love it here. I miss my home state, the trees and beauty of course. I even miss the rain, but I don't miss the mess WA has become.
yes. would love to see Harry's wife go to India with some cargo she actually paid for herself for the pandemic, and armed with some As Builts blueprints and some crews to make OSS and clean water systems. Ha ha!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger punkinseed said...
Lt. LOL. NO. I have never lived in Tacoma. I lived about 30 miles east, then moved to Idaho about ten years ago. Love it here. I miss my home state, the trees and beauty of course. I even miss the rain, but I don't miss the mess WA has become.
yes. would love to see Harry's wife go to India with some cargo she actually paid for herself for the pandemic, and armed with some As Builts blueprints and some crews to make OSS and clean water systems. Ha ha!
_____

Of course, our M is the EXPERT at water conservation. The EXPERT at COVID. The EXPERT at infrastructure. Right?
HappyDays said…
Acquitaine said…
@Maneki Neko said...

Acquitaine and Maneki Neko: Thanks to both of you for finding the article from The Telegraph about the VAX concert.

I wonder how the money they raise will be spent. As others have pointed out here, many times the funds raised from similar events in the past have not always gone 100 percent to the cause.

Here in the US, this will only be a two-hour show. My local tv listings say Selena Gomez will host it with listings of the bands involved, but no mention of Harry and Meghan at all.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger punkinseed said...
Natalier, I agree with you in some respects, but the extreme poverty in India is why the poor people accept such low living standards. Many just don't know no better as my gramma from the Ozarks would say. "Any better gramma!" "That's what I jest sayed! They don't know no better!"
The biggest shame is their sanitation, yes. I just saw a show about why public defecation is still so very much "accepted" as the people have some very old beliefs of who should remove and how to remove night soils.
If Harry's wife and his royal self really wanted to help India, they'd launch an all out movement to fix India's sanitation problems for good. OH wait, she doesn't care cuz she has what? 14 bathrooms, while ignoring the fact that most people in India have nowhere safe and sanitary to use.


Indeed, I've been involved in a debate on another site speculating about reasons for the spike in the cases in India. Sanitation (well, lack of) was a leading factor that many cited because there is a lot of virus in feces, as well as the large number of type 2 diabetics (possibly related to the high carb diet) and so many that are deficient in vitamin D. All of those combined with the crowds for holiday celebrations made the perfect storm of spread.

Or, it could be a biowarfare attack from China considering that they are blocking the medical supplies that they need.
SwampWoman said…
punkinseed said: Lt. LOL. NO. I have never lived in Tacoma. I lived about 30 miles east, then moved to Idaho about ten years ago. Love it here. I miss my home state, the trees and beauty of course. I even miss the rain, but I don't miss the mess WA has become.
yes. would love to see Harry's wife go to India with some cargo she actually paid for herself for the pandemic, and armed with some As Builts blueprints and some crews to make OSS and clean water systems. Ha ha!


My BFF moved from Oregon to Idaho as well; she couldn't stand mass stupidity any longer although she misses the scenic beauty of the state.
Acquitaine said…
@HappyDays said…
"Acquitaine said…
@Maneki Neko said...

Acquitaine and Maneki Neko: Thanks to both of you for finding the article from The Telegraph about the VAX concert.

I wonder how the money they raise will be spent. As others have pointed out here, many times the funds raised from similar events in the past have not always gone 100 percent to the cause.

Here in the US, this will only be a two-hour show. My local tv listings say Selena Gomez will host it with listings of the bands involved, but no mention of Harry and Meghan at all."

With rare exception these things take time to plan so the fact that listings in many places don't include No 6 and his wife confirms the suspicion that they were a last minute addition just for the publicity value which is their contribution to the cause, but of course they demanded to be named chairs despite doing no actual work for that role because if you google everything expected of a chair for these events, no way these 2 did even 1 thing out of the job description.

Plus this is a Sunschine Sachs event with everyone listed except for Macron and the other European president being their clients including the charity in whose name the event is listed.
lucy said…
Just had to upload screenshot of what was in my youtube feed *snicker*

No acknowledgment 🤣

https://ibb.co/x1ngL7M
Acquitaine said…
@punkinseed: Re India vs CCP vaccines snafu...

Considering the hostilities going on between them, India were idiots to trust CCP.
xxxxx said…
@Acquitaine
That's a good name for the Hapless one ---->>> #6
Acquitaine said…
@punkinseed: re sanitation systems in India and other countries.

Most of the time it isn't poverty. It's cultural. The caste system in India is absolute. The government treats the untouchables as worse than the lowest animal and don't see any reason to improve their conditions or educate or mandate them out of bad habits. As a result the upper castes have better standards and systems because the government, education and cultural is spent on their needs while the lowest caste don't know and don't care how and where sanitation occurs except not to do it near their upper caste countrymen who would retaliate in horrible ways.

I lived in India for a year and was shocked at the caste system and how that manifested in everyday life. I also realised that everyone was locked into it with no will to understand that they didn't have to live according to the traditions and customs that went with their caste in terms of common areas of understanding eg sanitation.

The upper caste treatment and attitude towards the lower castes especially the untouchables was pretty appalling while the reverse were more often resigned to their fate even if improvements were made to their lives.

The countryside was worse than the towns in my view, but same attitude prevailed.

IMO the government needs to enforce a mandate or even make it law to educate and improve sanitation to force the type of change you are recommending in your comments.

The Chinese govt of 1920s-1949(Chiang Kai Shek's govt preceding Mao) forced such a mandate to improve hygiene standards and public health. They made it a criminal offense alongside public education to spit and or use the street as a personal toilet. Within 5yrs between 1928 -37 the entire population's habits had been changed.

Dictatorial, authoritarian mandates should always be resisted, but in some situations they are the only way to go.

On that note i'll add that such a mandate was used to get rid of India's culture of suti - widow burning which was a much needed societal change, but would never have been achieved by persuasion or even education.



Thanks for that, Aquitaine, I was wondering to what extent caste might be having an effect.

re Sanitation:

Paul Theroux (in `The great Railway Bazaar, IIRC) once described India as not being Third World (ie non-aligned) but `T*rd world'. I've also read that, even when villages have been provided with public lavatories, women won't use them, preferring to go in the landscape, because the latrines are where would-be rapists lurk.
Magatha Mistie said…

Paid-Aid

Megs with her glamping stool
More peddling for her, and her tool
Forget about the Vax
Compliments, moonshine sachs
A scheme to make them more dough
They’ll bring nowt to bear
Gained a title, Camp Chair
To aid Chimpo, and Campho

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar@Aquataine

I travelled for a month in India
30 years ago. Wonderful,
vibrant country full of shocking contrasts.
I well remember the toilet facilities, or lack
of, in rural areas, and trains.
Recently watched a programme, Sue Perkins?
Women in a rural village, no toilets,
had to hold on all day until dark to relieve
themselves in the fields.



A comment on the Telegraph article about Blair the Hair, who now looks like an ageing rocker:

`He plays guitar you know.'
@magatha

Such a miserable life. As you say, shocking contrasts.

I know somebody (native British) who joined the Krishna Consciousness movement way back when. He intends to become a Brahmin. Materially, he's doing pretty well. Claims to own nothing but gets enormous benefits from rising in the organisation, about which he boasts freely when back in UK.

`Hare Krishna' has been well-dubbed `a religion for poor brown men run by rich white men'.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SwampWoman said...
punkinseed said: Lt. LOL. NO. I have never lived in Tacoma. I lived about 30 miles east, then moved to Idaho about ten years ago. Love it here. I miss my home state, the trees and beauty of course. I even miss the rain, but I don't miss the mess WA has become.
yes. would love to see Harry's wife go to India with some cargo she actually paid for herself for the pandemic, and armed with some As Builts blueprints and some crews to make OSS and clean water systems. Ha ha!

My BFF moved from Oregon to Idaho as well; she couldn't stand mass stupidity any longer although she misses the scenic beauty of the state.
_____

Just wondering what that might be.

Got a suspicion, me, onto which the H/M show might latch, but would like to know your thoughts.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
"Hare Krishna" .... LOL

Is that where M has led us? An old, moldy cult? Well, if so, then we're safe, as this particular piece of history is safely dead and gone :)

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Hari Megna could be the way to go!!

I’m still peeved that madam failed
to include, in her faux influential women
Vogue cover, Catherine Hamlin.
Catherine Hamlin, an Aussie, had
since 1958 lived in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
She, and her husband, performed thousands
of operations on women suffering Fistula
problems.
They devoted their lives to this cause,
and saved so many women, gave them life.
She died last year, her legacy/hospital lives on.



Curiously said…
TV show has just come on here in Australia titled William and Catherine: Saving the Crown. Ironically its being shown on the same network as the Oprah lie-fest.
Curiously said…
This is the blurb about the show
"Amid scandal, affairs, in-fighting and damning interviews, do this couple have what it takes to save the monarchy? Ten years on from their wedding, the spotlight shines bright on William and Kate"

Based on the hosts and commentators it appears that it was produced here.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Curiosly

I’m taping it, Quentin Bryce amongst
others are commenting.
Could be interesting.
Curiously said…
@Magatha Mistie

I'm watching it now. I was getting a little mistie eyed with them talking about the births of the kids. So far it's good, a few jibes at the Harkles. Lol. Coming up they will be talking about the "fab four" **eyeroll**
Magatha Mistie said…

The *Archairs

She’ll use the campaign chair
Like she’s used the old ex spare
Straddle it, just, for a day
She’s sat on the wealth
Using cunning, and stealth
Yet again, she’s had it away

*The Archers- long running
BBC radio drama

Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Thanks for the latest offerings. Love the Archairs! I don't know how you can find the inspiration, the gruesome twosome are pretty uninspiring to say the least.

Re Catherine Hamlin, the witch has probably never heard of her and the cause is not fashionable enough for her, I suppose. Mind you, she could be supporting her sisters, women of colour, but again, they're not the right ones.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Curiously

Fast forwarded!!
Arthur Edwards just said she
could fly, heavily pregnant,
to NY for baby shower,
couldn’t make it for Philips funeral.

Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

Bloody hard finding words for them!
It’s all been said, Hound Meg Day!

Yes, Catherine Hamlin not fashionable
enough for madam.
A pity, she did so much good, madam
could have bolstered opinion, and charity.

Thank you Maneki X


snarkyatherbest said…
Im confused How can Harry travel on a diplomatic passport when he is no longer a working royal. Hes not representing the queen only himself. That being said would the US state department stop the proceedings if initiated in California? I guess only if the UK government petitioned but i am having a hard time believing the govt uk or us would get involved. All that being said, the article is odd timing and maybe was put out (leaked to the express) more to get Harrys wife to break more than a sweat over any divorce plans. We all know she doesnt have staying power but she wont jump ship until another option is in hand. Just like the influencer shes aspiring to be (daily mail leaked that Kim Kardashian was dating Van Jones well before the divorce was filed), shes not moving on until there is a new mark in hand.

Oh and back to india - there has been some military build up along the norther indian southern china border during the pandemic last year. There is more to all of this than just concern about Covid Its all scary and fascinating at the same time.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Snarky

He is still a prince of the realm,
unfortunately.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9521553/Prince-Harry-feels-regretful-awkward-embarrassed-Oprah-interview-expert-claims.html
Part 1:
"Prince Harry is now 'regretful and embarrassed' about Oprah interview because he has a history of being 'hot headed and acting on his emotions', royal expert claims

Prince Harry was 'hurt and angry' over how his wife was treated by the Royal Family and used their Oprah Winfrey interview to 'get it out' - but is now 'regretful and embarrassed', a royal expert has claimed.

Duncan Larcombe, author of Prince Harry: The Inside Story, got to know the Duke of Sussex, 36, during his decade-long stint as a royal editor and described him as 'hot-headed'.

Speaking to Closer magazine, he said Harry has a tendency to act on impulse and recalled a time when the prince 'flew off the handle' at him following a misunderstanding at Peter Phillips' stag do in 2008.
Duncan told how he explained to William and Harry that he wouldn't get in their way while covering the event, and would liaise with them about the story he'd run.During the weekend, he said the Duke of Cambridge invited him to join them for a drink in the beer garden, but Harry was 'livid' thinking he'd snuck in there on the sly.

'He's a hot-headed guy, he acts on his emotions,' Duncan told Closer. 'He saw red and we had a row - but after William explained, he calmed down, apologised and we had a beer.'
Duncan added that he believes a 'similar thing happened' when it came to the Oprah Winfrey interview last month, in which Harry and Meghan claimed Charles and William are 'trapped' in 'The Firm' and accused the royals of institutional racism, alleging one member of the family questioned what colour their son Archie's skin would be.

'Harry was clearly hurt and angry about Meghan's experience with the royals - and used the interview to get it out,' Duncan said. 'But after returning home, I've no doubt he's been feeling embarrassed, regretful and awkward. He's now facing the consequences. I believe he'll regret that interview - and maybe his decision to leave the Royal Family.'
The Duke of Sussex returned to the UK to attend Prince Philip's funeral on April 17, after stepping down as a senior royal in January 2020 and subsequently having his titles stripped by the Queen.

He flew back to California, where he now resides in a £11million Montecito mansion with Meghan, 39, who is pregnant with their second child, days later, missing the Queen's 95th birthday on April 21.

Charles, William and Harry were said to have talked after the interview but they were believed to have been 'unproductive'.

Duncan said he'd heard Harry felt 'numb' heading back to LA and had 'mixed emotions' about seeing his family again at Prince Philip's funeral, which reminded him of 'everything he's sacrificed' in recent years and made him feel 'nostalgic' for his old life."
Part 2:
"Meanwhile, he alleged, Meghan is 'in her element' living her LA dream, and he fears Harry will struggle to live harmoniously as part of these two worlds.

'He's in for a very difficult ride. There could be tough times ahead,' Duncan said.

William and Harry are expected to meet again in the summer when they unveil a new statue to Princess Diana at Kensington Palace.

Insiders hope the July 1 event - done to commemorate what would have been their mother's 60th birthday - will help mend their relationship.

Though earlier this week royal expert Russell Myers questioned whether the visit will take place, commenting: 'Some quarters of the family did give him a frosty reception and perhaps that did shock him somewhat.'

He went on to say how the Duke of Sussex may use the birth of his daughter, who is expected to arrive in the summer, as a 'convenient excuse' not to 'face the family'.

According to a new poll, the Sussexes' approval ratings have fallen again to their lowest-ever levels following Prince Philip's funeral."
Elsbeth1847 said…
Oh, cool. Someone else noticed that article of how he might be be feeling regret and embarrassment from yet another insider.

Well, om FF they mention that not just he but she can be a hot head. And that they can make spur of the moment decisions.

However, neither is a teen and the decisions they made would have a long term impact on not just their lives but those of "their kids" and the other members of the BRF. To come back and try to imply that somehow they should be given a pass because they have a long history of making rash decisions which are regretted later makes me ask: Well at what point were you planning on stopping making rash decisions? at 60? 75 maybe? translating: what age are you planning to grow up? be accountable? be the adult in the room?

The other thing of note is: he's the one who is said to perhaps feeling the regret, not her (..."she's in her element.").
lizzie said…
I don't see how H could qualify for a diplomatic visa. It's irrelevant that he's a prince.

From https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/visas-diplomats.html

Bold added by me.

"To qualify for an A-1 or A-2 visa, you must be traveling to the United States on behalf of your national government to engage solely in official activities for that government.The specific duties or services that will be performed must be governmental in character or nature, as determined by the U.S. Department of State, in accordance with U.S. immigration laws. Government officials traveling to the United States to perform non-governmental functions of a commercial nature, or traveling as tourists, require the appropriate visas and do not qualify for A visas. The fact that there may be government interest or control in a given organization is not in itself the defining factor in determining if you qualify for an A visa."
@Elsbeth1847 I wonder who he heard the "H is feeling numb" thing from. Hmm. Their PR is so obvious. H got iced out in a massive way, oops that means no more money, so need to start making sounds about H missing his family and making nice and all that so then the money spigot and Royal stuff will get turned back on. Best thing RF can do is freeze them both out for life in order to circle the wagons around the young kids and not have a rotten influence(H and H's wife) around them in any capacity. The RF are better off without both of them. Cut the gangrenous limb off.
Midge said…
Saw this link on Skippy - lovely pictures of guests from all over the world who attended a dinner preceding the wedding of William and Catherine 10 years ago.

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/the-cambridge-wedding-pre-wedding-gala-fashion-158795/
Girl with a Hat said…
@lizzie,

I think Harry has a diplomatic passport.

The visa he uses to live in the USA is not necessarily a diplomatic visa since he seems not to be on official business.
Curiously said…
@Magatha Mistie

Arthur Edwards wasn't holding back. I loved when he said MM left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Curiously

Will watch tomorrow, hope it’s good.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Magatha Mistie said...

@WildBoar

Hari Megna could be the way to go!!

I’m still peeved that madam failed
to include, in her faux influential women
Vogue cover, Catherine Hamlin.
Catherine Hamlin, an Aussie, had
since 1958 lived in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
She, and her husband, performed thousands
of operations on women suffering Fistula
problems.
They devoted their lives to this cause,
and saved so many women, gave them life.
She died last year, her legacy/hospital lives on.


Yes, yes, she did good works (boooooring!) but she didn't emote to Oprah about how sad her life was, or do stupid dances on Tik-Tok. Therefore, the MSM wouldn't have any interest in her.

/Can you tell that I am disgusted about the shallowness of media personnel and their puerile offerings?
lizzie said…
@Girl With a Hat wrote:

"I think Harry has a diplomatic passport.

The visa he uses to live in the USA is not necessarily a diplomatic visa since he seems not to be on official business."

Thanks! The Express article that started the discussion re: divorce in the US also stated:

"While it is not know how Harry has stayed in the US without permanent US citizenship, it is believed due to his royal status, he probably has an A1 visa which is reserved for "diplomats and government officials"."

So a bit confusing. Also, though, what about other members of the family not including the Queen? For example, in the endless discussions about Andrew, I have never seen anyone claim he had diplomatic immunity in the US. (NOT saying he committed a crime, but that has been discussed.) People sometimes have different views about other aspects of Andrew's situation (whether he has to talk to the FBI-- I say no, some say yes; whether the US would try to extradite him-- I say no but I've seen some yes positions.)

If H has a diplomatic passport Andrew must too. And A's visits to the US often had a Pitch@Palace aspect & that sounds more official than anything Harry's done since running away from home. But Harry has immunity from legal proceedings, even civil, and Andrew doesn't?
Magatha Mistie said…

Exactly Swampie

Catherine Hamlin devoted her life
to women. Not mentioned anywhere,

I worked with a friend of hers, otherwise
unknown. Devout Christian.
Girl with a Hat said…
@lizzie,

the issue of protection from prosecution in the USA would probably be a touchy one and it would be up to the UK government to decide if they would turn him over to the American authorities.

Also, when his passport expires, he might not get the same passport as he has now.
Magatha Mistie said…

I’m sure Harry has a diplomatic
passport.
He may not be a working royal,
but is still a son of the heir to
the throne.



Mel said…
It's so sad reading about H's best man speech....how affectionate and warm it was, making Catherine tear up.

You can only imagine how betrayed Catherine must feel to now have Mm attacking her by name, and H allowing it.
snarkyatherbest said…
So not surprising that Harry and his wife sent private congratulation to william and catherine and the public pr tell us this. I am curious. Its been a year, the review is done. So no instagram, no official twitter, nothing Any thing she releases on those sites are done on other's accounts not their account. So what gives, is this part of Megixt? is she still pining for Sussex royal? we speculate about private accounts but as an influencer why is she not out there.
@Magatha

Straddling the chair? Just like Christine Keeler?

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2002/feb/10/features.magazine57
lizzie said…
@Girl With a Hat wrote:

"The issue of protection from prosecution in the USA would probably be a touchy one and it would be up to the UK government to decide if they would turn him over to the American authorities."

While I agree in extradition cases it's always up to the home country to decide whether to turn over its citizen, I personally doubt the US would ask the UK to turn over Andrew. Lots of reasons: Sacoolas and lack of apparent action re: the many prominent US citizens/politicians involved in the same case to name two. (Plus, the need for evidence of a crime on US soil on his part rather than just being sleazy, of course.)

But whether I'm right or wrong, the fact is no one that I've ever seen opining has claimed Andrew--the Queen's son-- had diplomatic immunity during the time period any alleged crimes were committed by JE and/or GM. And, in fact, many legal experts have explained why A would not have had it. But with the same sort of passport Harry has immunity from divorce proceedings? Seems quite odd.
Magatha Mistie said…

Megsie the Moocher

She’s caused so much pain
To the Queen’s latter reign
Disrespectful, disloyal, and more
She damn well made sure
No one likes her, no more
On ya bike, take yer chair,
quit the scene..


Snarkyatherbest said…
omg the Cambridges released a video of the family - kids and all, running around and having fun. Its wonderful are there any dishes left in montecito to throw?
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Exactly! Was thinking Christine Keeler!

xxxxx said…
snarkyatherbest said...
So not surprising that Harry and his wife sent private congratulation to william and catherine and the public pr tell us this. I am curious. Its been a year, the review is done. So no instagram, no official twitter, nothing Any thing she releases on those sites are done on other's accounts not their account.

Megzy knows that any Sussex twitter and Instagram would magnets for her nay-sayers and haters. Sussex fakers would have to hire people to work 24/7 to block people and delete nasty posts on their twitter and Instagram. I am sure Megzy has seen DM comment sections. Her twitter and Instagram would look similar as plebs have their say.
NeutralObserver said…
@Ava C, The Grazia article writer who wrote the attack on Megs' pregnancy skeptics, seems to have quite a lot of neurosis herself concerning reproduction.

Before getting pregnant I was in the extremely lucky position of having no long-term or ongoing illnesses: physical or mental. Being pregnant threw me into such deep whirlpools of anxiety that, more than once, I genuinely wondered if I was pregnant at all. With a kind of uneasy thrill, I read about Queen Mary’s ‘phantom pregnancy’ of 1555 and wondered if I, too, had conjured this sickness, this thickening around the middle, this halt in my periods through hormonal changes, maternal longing and unchecked delusion alone. I did three pregnancy tests, went for all the right scans and yet, until my tiny purple son pushed out into the bathing pool of an East London birth centre, there was still a part of me that wondered if I was having a baby at all.

Yikes, she doesn't sound as though she was an expectant mom who glowed with anticipation herself. She calls pregnancy 'precarious.' It's not. Pregnancy in itself is an indication of at least physical health, if not mental. Supposedly, the physical characteristics which men are allegedly attracted to in females, are indications of fertility, like thick hair. If pregnancy were such a delicate state, there wouldn't be almost 8 billion of us on the planet, despite war, famine & disease. It's not that hard to be pregnant. Women have been doing it for millions of years.

Megs only claims fragility when it suits, ie, too fragile to go to Philip's funeral.She's a fragile 'young mother' who can't appear in court. In most of her pr nonsense she claims robust health brought about by clean living. We make fun her because her baby bumps seem to change sizes at will, but are so outlandishly huge most of the time, and present no problems in mobility or flexibility for the super human Megs.
Jdubya said…
have you seen the new video on IG for Kensington Royal? Wow. now this is a great video

https://www.instagram.com/kensingtonroyal/?utm_source=ig_embed

It shows the real family, just out having fun, playing with the kids. this is the stuff that people want to see.
NeutralObserver said…
The Live Vax concert, or whatever it is, is on US network tv channels, their streaming arms, & on YouTube outside of the US. It looks like they are aiming for an audience which is too young or too poor, or both, to have anything better to do on a Saturday night.

The organizers have had months to put together whatever they present, which will probably have most of the limitations other show-biz gatherings have suffered from this year due to Covid. It will have none of the spontaneous altruism things like the 9/11 concert, & other such events have had in the past. It will be interesting to see what kind of audience they draw, & as others have noted they seem to be promoting the more well known entertainers, & not the Harkles. I don't know if the networks are donating their air time, as they did for the 9/11 concert, or will they be running ads?

I think the Oprah interview drew a largish audience because of the royal family connection, along with the anticipation of a train wreck. Sadly, we Americans seem to have a taste for watching public train wrecks, & the Harkles are rapidly becoming one.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Neutral Observer

Yesterday I listened to the youtube video that bookworm did about there being no royal births at either London hospital in the two week period before and including the day that Archie was supposedly born. I suggest you watch it.
SwampWoman said…
O/T: Daughter just posted a picture of herself and 16-year-old grandson who just received his second Pfizer vaccine. People kept coming around to make her leave because nobody believed that this 6'5", 220 lb. guy was 16 and his mom had to be there.
SwampWoman said…
Four-year-old grandson saw the video of the family running and playing, and said "Oooooh, that looks like a girlfriend!" about Charlotte. (I think it was eating the roasted marshmallows that clinched the deal for him.)
Bookworm posted this update within the last hour;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPZ4W8BJloc

I may have been wrong about the hair.
SwampWoman said…
NeutralObserver said: I think the Oprah interview drew a largish audience because of the royal family connection, along with the anticipation of a train wreck. Sadly, we Americans seem to have a taste for watching public train wrecks, & the Harkles are rapidly becoming one.

Yeah, I think it was mostly the trainwreck aspect, too. It seems that most of the people that watched it concluded that she was full of lies. Don't think that was what she was trying for, but she always was a terrible actress.
JerseyGirl said…
SwampWoman said…
Four-year-old grandson saw the video of the family running and playing, and said "Oooooh, that looks like a girlfriend!" about Charlotte. (I think it was eating the roasted marshmallows that clinched the deal for him.)

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Adorable!!! Out of the mouth of babes... lol
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SwampWoman said...
NeutralObserver said: I think the Oprah interview drew a largish audience because of the royal family connection, along with the anticipation of a train wreck. Sadly, we Americans seem to have a taste for watching public train wrecks, & the Harkles are rapidly becoming one.

Yeah, I think it was mostly the trainwreck aspect, too. It seems that most of the people that watched it concluded that she was full of lies. Don't think that was what she was trying for, but she always was a terrible actress.
_____

"Largish audience."

17 mil from a potential audience of 320 mil Americans. Not sure about the rest of the world.
SwampWoman said…
@ Lt. Nyota Uhuru, at least more people tuned in for the Oprah trainwreck than the Oscars trainwreck which, in the Harry and future ex-wife world, makes them bigger stars than any that were up for awards!
SwampWoman said…
Also @Lt. Nyota Uhuru, it also means that the vast vast vast majority of people care for neither the woke politics of the Hollywood OR the Royal Clown Show.
Grisham said…
@swampwoman, how delightful and adorable!!! I can’t wait to have grandkids. Won’t happen any time soon though,


So what is the difference between a diplomatic passport and visa in relation to a divorce? I would think the visa is more important? No? I don’t feel like researching this.
Re Bookworm -

Hasn't anybody else checked on her 2 videos?

GWAH flagged up the first at April 29, 2021 at 7:00 PM (Thanks, GWAH)

I have just watched the update at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPZ4W8BJloc


They sound like `pukka gen'/the real McCoy/reliable information and deserve attention!!!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Elsbeth1847 said...
Oh, cool. Someone else noticed that article of how he might be be feeling regret and embarrassment from yet another insider.
_____

Oh, way too little, way too late, laddie, LOL
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SwampWoman said...
Also @Lt. Nyota Uhuru, it also means that the vast vast vast majority of people care for neither the woke politics of the Hollywood OR the Royal Clown Show.
_____

Thank heavens.
Kate Kosior said…
I'm sorry, I missed it . The discussion about Harry, his visa, and what it means for potential divorce proceedings...was this reported in the press? Because if so, I think that probably means whispers are starting.

The new video is absolutely EVERYTHING. I'm sure MM is absolutely livid. Haven't seen much from the gruesome twosome so far today... Maybe they're finally learning a few lessons and lying low.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Straddling the chair? Just like Christine Keeler?

@Magatha

Exactly! Was thinking Christine Keeler!
~~~~~~~~~~
I thought Magatha meant she was straddling the chair as in chairman!...

Louise said…
https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210429112168/meghan-markle-prince-harry-congratulate-kate-middleton-prince-william-anniversary/



"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have congratulated the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on their tenth wedding anniversary, HELLO! can reveal. Harry and Meghan sent their well wishes to William and Kate in private."

"IN PRIVATE". So private that it was known to Hello Magazine!
JerseyGirl said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcJLF6eu3UQ


As I was watching Lady C's video from today, after it finished I clicked on the above video from a user called Princess Tiffany. I don't know if it's true or just gossip, but it's about MM banning her mother from her life.
xxxxx said…
I like-- Bookworm2 who has 213.7K subscribers.
She sounds level headed and rational to me.

Her videos by date. Going from from recent to her earliest ---- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC6H-xh8UTbcCn5ntESzFFw/videos
Anonymous said…
The video of the Cambridges at play with their children is priceless. You’d have to have a heart of stone not to be moved by it. A home run, as we Yanks would say.
@Maneki Neko said:

`I thought Magatha meant she was straddling the chair as in chairman!...'

Well, one has to be a certain age for that reference to come leaping to mind!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Bookworm2 has well, you know what. What is more, I think she is right.
I do like this comment on Princess Tiffany's video:

`I'd say Doria would sing like a canary if the price was right.��'
Anonymous said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura
@Blogger Elsbeth1847

Oh, cool. Someone else noticed that article of how he might be be feeling regret and embarrassment from yet another insider.

It was actually just a biographer who’d written about Harry speculating as to what H might be feeling (based on the fact that he is hot-headed and impulsive). That Oprah interview was not impulsive.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Apparently O has a new book coming out about her life. The DM has parts about how really awful her childhood was (beaten mainly and that it had a lifelong impact).

The comments are varied but most are generally sad she had this growing up but that many of the posters also were beaten as children. And one who suggested that this might be a good time for her to stop talking.

jessica said…
It’s very clear something is going on.

The press of Harry being an idiot during Oprah and regrets.
The press of Kate hitting out at Meghan being bizarre about her dad, and Harry making ill informed decisions.
The press of Meghan being unprepared for Royal life.

The Oprah walk back seems like a favor to Oprah. She came out claiming she had no idea etc etc.

Whatever the case, this is not press that is desirable. It makes them look scattered, disgruntled, and stupid.

Why?
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar @Magatha OT

Well, one has to be a certain age for that reference to come leaping to mind!
-------------
Re Christine Keeler, then yes I was a bit young at the time (although 'of a certain age' now) but the photo is famous. It's just that I thought @Magatha was being a bit naughty and had the same meaning as me in mind... I realise that 'chairman' shouldn't be used these days, not PC, although there was a phase when chairperson was used.
xxxxx said…
Ronald Trumpet, Englandshire, United Kingdom, 10 hours ago
Give it a rest you boring old fart. In your twilight years, you should be reminiscing over happy times, not drudging this up again for the umpteenth time

Thom94, London, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
Little bit of PR after her terrible Ginge & Cringe interview. I don't doubt her childhood was bad but the timing after her reputation tanked is interesting.
____________________

Above are two DM comments at the Oprah was abused as child article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9522869/Oprah-reveals-shocking-childhood-abuse-endured-growing-Mississippi.html

FROM this article:

She continued: 'I was like, and I said, "No ma’am" and she said, "I saw you and your fingers in the water," so she grabbed a switch and I got a really bad whipping for it.'

The billionaire media mogul got emotional with an anecdote about the injuries she had in the wake of the beating.

'Later, when I put on my clothes to go to church, one of the welts from my back opened up and bloodied the, bloodied the dress, so, my emotion now is not because I feel such deep pain about it, I just feel pain for that little girl,' she said.
SwampWoman said…
Rebecca said:
It was actually just a biographer who’d written about Harry speculating as to what H might be feeling (based on the fact that he is hot-headed and impulsive). That Oprah interview was not impulsive.

Indeed not. The interview was cold-bloodedly calculated to inflict pain on a dying grandfather that loved him. He can't blame his wife for this since he was there. He's either an evil idiot or a weak idiot, and neither one is a good look, especially somebody that is trying to remove cash from rubes because they're all about "kindness" and "humanitarianism".
SwampWoman said…
Jessica said:
Whatever the case, this is not press that is desirable. It makes them look scattered, disgruntled, and stupid.

Why?


I'm going to get all crazy like and speculate that maybe because they are?
lucy said…
This is really super cute! :)

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_Cambridgess/status/1387523648106418192
Could cash be tight for Wife and Husband - so much so that Mom has been asked to return part or all of what she has gained in the last few years?

Just speculating...
JerseyGirl said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
Could cash be tight for Wife and Husband - so much so that Mom has been asked to return part or all of what she has gained in the last few years?

Just speculating...

Very interesting Wild Boar - that would go along with the video I shared earlier about MM banning Doria (if true). MM could have asked for the money back and she said NO.

I don't believe there was ever a loving mother/daughter relationship, as Doria was absent for most of her life growing up. Like the video I believe it was more MM using someone for her agenda.

I find it hard to believe MM has any friends that still trust her. There were very few who jumped in her corner after Oprah. SW and CT if I recall. No Elton John, no Amal & George Clooney, no President Obama or Michelle Obama. Oh wait there's former first lady Hillary Clinton that came to her defense.

MM's friendship list couldn't be larger than a index card at this point. She's not wanted in Corporate America, the draw is and always will be JH. She's truly becoming a nobody. Even Lady C has stopped calling her M and just refers to her as Harry's wife, that cracked me up. The MM has started against her and it's wonderful. She's caused just so much pain and isn't a honorable person.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1429892/Prince-Harry-latest-news-Duke-of-Sussex-update-Prince-William-Royal-Family-feud-vn

Prince Harry is 'sulking' and Duke 'simply doesn't care' about Royal Family, warns expert
PRINCE HARRY'S desire to be superior to Prince William is preventing the brothers from repairing their relationship, according to a royal expert.


whoa! the gloves are off!
NeutralObserver said…
@Girl With a Hat, I saw the Bookworm2 video, 'Harry's Wife: A pregnancy debunked.' It makes a good case for a bogus pregnancy. I've never been able to understand why, if they used a surrogate, that they just didn't admit it. If they had been open & honest about it, the Queen might have explored altering the 'of the body rules.' There are so many red flags about both 'pregnancies.'

@Jessica, Like Catherine I was surprised by Megs' treatment of her father as well. I didn't pay much attention to the marriage pre the pregnancy from Mars, but did notice that there were no relatives from Megs' side at the wedding other than her mother. Very odd, but I did wonder if her father had been an abusive monster who didn't warrant an invite. That doesn't seem to be the case at all. He's just an overweight, unglamorous, naive guy who doesn't understand his own daughter. Lady Colin Campbell has mentioned being approached by a representative of Megs' camp who had unsavory stories about Thomas Markle. Lady CC is very careful not to say things which would embroil her in lawsuits, so she's most likely being truthful. In any case, Megs had no qualms about throwing her in-laws under the bus, so she wouldn't hesitate to malign her own father as well. If she didn't do the hit job herself, it's just a rumor she wanted to plant to undermine both Lady CC & her father. What a nice woman!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Could cash be tight for Wife and Husband - so much so that Mom has been asked to return part or all of what she has gained in the last few years?

Just speculating...
_____

"Mom" seems to be doing quite well, as the CEO of a cash and carry senior living business.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8778055/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-Ragland-64-takes-boss-elderly-care-homes-firm.html

No way that could be a money laundering operation. Oh, no.
Petunia said…
Kate Kosior, your post was absolutely non-sensical. You lump people who don't want the vaccine into a group of ignoramuses who think the vaccine is not safe, and then you immediately ALSO criticize them for not wanting vaccines to go overseas because that would deprive them of vaccines? No logic (or reality) in there.

Oh, and almost all celebrites ARE out-of-touch liberal elitists who don't have a clue about how ordinary pepple.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman said about H,

”He’s either an evil idiot or a weak idiot, and neither is a good look”

Applauding this. You’ve summed it up with simple, clean perfection.

At this point, I think “evil idiot” has my vote.
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Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT,

why can't he be an evil and weak idiot? It's not like it's an either or situation.
KCM1212 said…
@Lucy
That video is adorable!

@snarkyatherbest

That video gave me shivers. Its beautifully done and deeply touching

@Swampwoman
Your grandson is absolutely adorable. And I agree. That interview was coldly, deliberately calculated. This more "H the lad" BS.

@Lizzie
Doesnt diplomatic immunity pertain to criminal matters (hence the "immunity"). Why would anyone interfere in a divorce?

But I agree with those who said 6 does not warrant diplomatic status since he is not here on a diplomatic mission (you can say that again!!)

And while it is sad O had a tough childhood, I would ask her to consider Prince Philips childhood. He never complained. His motto was to " just get on with it". He didnt believe in wallowing in the past.

The same Philip whose last illness you cold-heartedly ignored. Whose family you allowed to be lied about and disparaged falsely. For money. For ratings. For your ego. For two worthless human beings.

Mendacity.

And @Hikari, if you are around...I toured the Scottish Highlands today. It was incredibly well- done. Thank you for the suggestion!! 😃😃😃🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
Girl with a Hat said…
@KCM1212,

diplomatic immunity also extends to civil liabilities. Otherwise, diplomats would have to worry about that as well.
KCM1212 said…
GWAH

diplomatic immunity also extends to civil liabilities. Otherwise, diplomats would have to worry about that as well.

Of course, GWAH. That makes sense. But still, interference in a divorce or 6S eligibility seem like a stretch. Do you know much about Angela Levin (if I have that right). Is she credible?

Its just weird enough to make me think 6W planted it. That distinctive air of chaos. But again, the logic eludes me.

@xxxxx
Bookworm2 is really interesting! I need to process some of what she is saying, but definitely worth a listen.

As an aside, is that a South African accent? I love it.

AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

In my opinion, evil is a higher, more intense and active concept than simple meanness, spite or even a cold heart.

Thus, see H possessing a malevolent desire to create chaos and to upend his family, and I see evidence he did just that. I see further evidence that he is willing to wring PR out of grief, profit from the troubles of others (including charity groups), and that he continues to pursue this path, standing by his wife and traveling across the world to glower at his family before choosing to jet back.

There is nothing weak in what I see him doing at this stage. I will no longer elect to absolve him by saying he is weak, & she is all powerful. She is not a terrifying Marvel bad guy with super powers. But, neither are weak. She is, at the end of the day, an ill-educated, greedy, fame whore creep like him. He likes evil, she likes evil, hurting others thrills them, and onward they slither.

Just my opinion.

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