It's been almost 24 hours since the British airing of Meghan and Harry's documentary about their trip to South Africa - or, rather, about their personal problems, set against a backdrop of their trip to South Africa.
On video, the exhausting pair revisited their standard themes: the British media is unfair to them, Meg has it particularly tough because she is (a little bit) Black, and Harry desperately misses his sainted mother, murdered by the press.
In addition, the ginger prince added in a swipe at his brother, seeming to confirm rumors of a feud between them. (William quickly responded with a quote delivered to the BBC through an aide, saying he was "worried" about his brother.)
What happens next?
The first few weeks of their California visit are easy to imagine: Meghan's mother Doria (paid to be) photographed at Thanksgiving dinner with her grandson Archificial.
Archificial at the beach - his first view of the ocean! (God knows no one ever took him to Brighton, Southend-on-Sea, or Bognor Regis - which is actually in Sussex).
The whole family at Disneyland! Everybody pose in the spinning teacups! Archificial looks nauseated, and so does Harry.
How would they support themselves?
Harry can't work - he has no marketable skills, no discipline to obtain them, and ongoing substance problems. I wouldn't hire him for anything.
Meghan is a minimally gifted actress pushing 40. More popular actresses, like Reese Witherspoon and Jessica Alba, have created profitable merchandise lines, but Meg just doesn't have the fan base for that.
Her talent for alienating everyone she works with won't help either.
But how long can that continue? When the two have left the Royal Family, who is going to want to donate to the Sussex Foundation?
The Clinton Foundation has motored on for years because donations to it resulted in political influence and valuable connections.
Not so much for the Sussex Foundation. What is a donation to Harry and Meghan going to do for you? They can barely take care of themselves.
Maybe they have some people's compassion - or pity - but they're no longer the confident "global influencers" they wanted to be.
The sad fact is they have very little left to sell.
There were rumors that Meg is planning a Thanksgiving reunion with her father - awkward, because he is a major player in her lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday, but perhaps not impossible, particularly if you believe that Thomas Markle has been on her payroll all along.
A reunion with Thomas is one of the last arrows in Meg's media quiver. If she's willing to use him now, she must be desperate.
(Hear much about the "Rose" rumors these days in establishment media? I thought not.)
Ultimately, the Sussexes might be forced to sell the one story that everyone really wants to hear.
Where the hell did Artificial really come from? And is he really Harry's son?
On video, the exhausting pair revisited their standard themes: the British media is unfair to them, Meg has it particularly tough because she is (a little bit) Black, and Harry desperately misses his sainted mother, murdered by the press.
In addition, the ginger prince added in a swipe at his brother, seeming to confirm rumors of a feud between them. (William quickly responded with a quote delivered to the BBC through an aide, saying he was "worried" about his brother.)
What happens next?
Family time in California
The most common suggestion is that the pair will take their upcoming six week "family time" holiday as a chance to visit and plan a move to the US, perhaps to Los Angeles, where Meghan was raised.The first few weeks of their California visit are easy to imagine: Meghan's mother Doria (paid to be) photographed at Thanksgiving dinner with her grandson Archificial.
Archificial at the beach - his first view of the ocean! (God knows no one ever took him to Brighton, Southend-on-Sea, or Bognor Regis - which is actually in Sussex).
The whole family at Disneyland! Everybody pose in the spinning teacups! Archificial looks nauseated, and so does Harry.
How will they support themselves in the US?
A longer stay in California - presumably the Sussexes will skip the Christmas festivities at Sandringham where they are "expected" and totally unwanted - raises further questions.How would they support themselves?
Harry can't work - he has no marketable skills, no discipline to obtain them, and ongoing substance problems. I wouldn't hire him for anything.
Meghan is a minimally gifted actress pushing 40. More popular actresses, like Reese Witherspoon and Jessica Alba, have created profitable merchandise lines, but Meg just doesn't have the fan base for that.
Her talent for alienating everyone she works with won't help either.
Using donated funds for PR
Right now, the pair are reportedly now using funds donated to the Sussex Foundation - putatively a charity - to pay PR firm Sunshine Sachs to promote them, and perhaps to pay other expenses as well.But how long can that continue? When the two have left the Royal Family, who is going to want to donate to the Sussex Foundation?
The Clinton Foundation has motored on for years because donations to it resulted in political influence and valuable connections.
Not so much for the Sussex Foundation. What is a donation to Harry and Meghan going to do for you? They can barely take care of themselves.
The price of pity
The illusion of power and influence are what Meg and Harry have really given up with this documentary.Maybe they have some people's compassion - or pity - but they're no longer the confident "global influencers" they wanted to be.
The sad fact is they have very little left to sell.
There were rumors that Meg is planning a Thanksgiving reunion with her father - awkward, because he is a major player in her lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday, but perhaps not impossible, particularly if you believe that Thomas Markle has been on her payroll all along.
A reunion with Thomas is one of the last arrows in Meg's media quiver. If she's willing to use him now, she must be desperate.
The last media moment
The pair could, of course, could try to cash in by airing all the Royal Family's dirty laundry in an interview or book, although the Royal Family's lawyers probably have the muscle to keep it out of the hands of a a major publisher.(Hear much about the "Rose" rumors these days in establishment media? I thought not.)
Ultimately, the Sussexes might be forced to sell the one story that everyone really wants to hear.
Where the hell did Artificial really come from? And is he really Harry's son?
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"They added that any sibling or person seeing that would of course be concerned, but said the tabloids and the briefings by so-called "palace insiders and friends" are classic examples of anti-Prince Harry and Meghan hysteria.
The source added that the institution around the British royal family is full of people afraid of and inexperienced at how to best help harness and deploy the value of the royal couple who, they said, have single-handedly modernized the monarchy."
Palace insiders and friends are examples of anti-Harry & Meghan hysteria? Would those be the same insiders being rewarded by Smeg for information on the Cambridges or would those insiders be the ones fired by Smeg and then revealing what a terrible human being she is?
Surrounded by people afraid of or inexperienced... Hmm... would they be afraid of flying teapots? Are they inexperienced because H&M can't seem to hold onto staff or hire PR people instead of courtiers, trained in royal protocol?
Am I the only one sitting here trying to figure out how they have modernized the monarchy? The increasingly loud call for a republic? The millennial whining about feelings? The new woke royal flitting from progressive issue to progressive issue, ignoring decades of remaining impartial? What is it? I'd really like to know.
"I've really tried to adopt this British sensibility of a stiff upper lip," she said.
"Has its advantages, I guess?" asked Bradby.
"I tried to … I tried, but I think what that does internally is probably really damaging," she said.
I don't think she understands what it means. It would never occur to her to just get on with it. She'd rather wallow in self-pity, allowing unkind words, regardless of how well deserved those words may be, to damage her, than to just get on with it.
Is that how they've changed the monarchy? The New Improved Thin Skinned Monarchy!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600699/Friend-warned-Meghan-Markle-marrying-Prince-Harry-says-duchess-naive-Brit-Press.html#comments
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One day we [she and Meghan] were having lunch on the Strand in London and it was obvious it was getting very serious with Harry,' she said.
'I said, 'This is serious. This is the end of your normal life, the end of your privacy – everything.'
'But she just held up her hand and said: 'Stop. I don't want to hear any negativity. This is a happy time for us.'
Gina described the 36-year-old as someone who hates 'negativity' and is 'so focused on what she wants' that she will stop associates in their tracks if they question her decisions.
She accused the mother-of-one of being 'picky' and someone who 'likes to move on' quickly if she doesn't see eye-to-eye with them.
She revealed the ruthless side of Ms Markle in an interview in which she described Harry's future bride as 'difficult' to work with after travelling the world with the former actress.
The entrepreneur however described Ms Markle as 'delightful, warm, personable - and hugely charismatic', someone who instantly brings you into their world.
Yet Ms Nelthorpe-Cowne has not had any correspondence with the future royal since the week prior to the announcement of Ms Markle's engagement. Her last exchange with her was via a lawyer who ended their professional working relationship.
The pair officially split professionally in October 2017, a week prior to the announcement of the royal engagement, but the former agent claims Ms Markle 'changed' around the time that the couple started to get serious.
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Deep sigh of satisfaction from me. She's throwing Meghan under a bus, only slightly softening the fall. And that only for appearances.
I do not believe it. Look at how they look at each other. Look at how they walk in sync. Look at them with their children. You can't fake that. Every marriage will have its ups and downs, and maybe on a particular day at a food tasting fair you don't really like your spouse that day, or you don't feel well, or whatever, but that doesn't mean your marriage is a sham.
Also someone already admitted she made up the rumor about Rose.
The thing is, 'modernising the monarchy' is a contradiction in terms. The whole concept of monarchy - whereby some humans are considered superior to other humans simply through an accident of birth - is inherently archaic. Oh sure, you can do social media, make yourself more 'accessible' (with your taxpayer funded security guards watching carefully), be photographed picking the kids up from school etc, but at the end of the day, monarchy is not and can never be 'modern'. If it is, it ceases to exist.
And instagram influencers.
And Oprah buddies.
And wearing butt pads
That's not modernising, that turning them into the Kardashians
My sisters and I look totally different, including in body type. One looks just like my mother’s grandmother, while I have the face/skeletal structure of my father’s father with the curves of my mother’s mother. Another sister has all the personality (and problems) of my father’s mother. I love genetics. It’s endlessly fascinating.
As for Archers, I do think he resembles MM’s nephew quite a bit. Especially in the shape of the head, which seems to be what people seem to think makes AHMW look like Harry.
Harry’s secret: is he infertile or not? Was a sperm donor used? Ordinarily I would say this is none of our business, but the lies are so maddening that the truth needs to come out.
They aren’t moderating the comments now. They often start with moderated comments when an article is first shown, but then they turn them off. Sometimes they state that comments aren’t being moderated, and they are.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/10/21/harry-and-meghan-please-stop-whinging/
The Rose rumour was supposedly started by Meghan, there was Blind Gossip item a while back.
My goodness it's a busy day today. Can't keep up. Now a 'conservative commentator' called Candace Owens has called Meghan out on the other side of the Atlantic. I'd be interested to know what others think, who understand the US. One of the things I like best about this blog is our constant cultural interchange. So many backgrounds too. Never seen a blog to rival this one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600583/Conservative-commentator-Candace-Owens-lashes-Meghan-Markle.html
Candace Owens is a tell it like is is woman who happens to be black. That is gist of her tweet (and the article). She is saying what the rest of us are saying: you are a woman, who happens to be biracial, who married into a family of privilege. The purpose of the tour was to highlight the poverty and needs of African children. Instead you used it as a backdrop to air your own needs. As for PH, shame on you for invoking your mother's name when you know full well she used the press too, just as you wife is doing. As for the witch comment - well, she did say she had Harry under a spell. LOL.
Candace is married to a Brit - George Farmer. So in a sense, Candace is a true equal to MM: An American, married to a Brit. She sees it like it is as she is living it - learning the culture, fitting in, etc.
Candace gets it, like the rest of us in the U.S.
The worst part of the Harkle debacle is that Megs might return to the US, with or without Harry & Archie. Frankly, I'd rather they get that Africa gig that was mentioned several months ago. We have enough of her sort here in the US. They're not helping to solve anything, just creating division & rancor, & promoting their own self interest.
It is my opinion that MM is not being truthful in the documentary interview where she says she would apologize and take direction if she put a foot wrong (this was a paraphrase). When have we ever seen her do that? I am sure she was advised not to have the opulent, lavish baby shower and not to fly to the States for the tennis match. There are rumors she was told not to do the Vogue edit, but that could just be a rumor. In any case, a story leaked after "Private Jet Gate" where MM was described as being "above" and "not bothered" (again a paraphrase) any criticism for taking the private jets.
She did not apologize in this case for squawking about the environment on IG but using private jets for her transport. If the story about being "above it all" was false, she should have issued a denial right away (I have seen celebs run denials for stories of far less consequence). She didn't, so we are left with the typical "F off, don't you know who I am" attitude so often attributed to her
I also think William has huge respect for Kate's parents which also would make him very unlikely to cheat on their daughter.
I think it might be more than just huge respect for Kate's parents (my cousin's husband cheated on her and he had a lot of respect for the parents).
I think more about the comment of seeing what his mother went through and that he didn't have a good last call with his mother before she died. So my take is that he remembers that pain, has moved on (unlike Harry) but would not want to do that to anyone close to him as life can be very short and end unexpectedly.
My dad died when I was 17, from a sudden and massive stroke. I know I definitely froze at that age, emotionally and mentally, for quite a long time. I view Harry as having frozen at the age he was when Diana died. And, regarding his opinion that the press killed her; since he was 12 when she died, I can see that he seized on the easiest "enemy" to blame, and it was the press's unrelenting hounding of her which made the driver speed through that tunnel and collide with that column.
Like I've said before, watching him walk behind her coffin, it wasn't merely grief on his face, it was RAGE. He froze mentally and emotionally in that rage-state, and that's why it's still that "wound that festers" for him.
My view from the armchair is that she-who-shall-not-be-named is definitely NPD/BPD--my sister-BPD and I no longer speak as she is toxic and I've cut her out of my life (her hubby-NPD and were extremely toxic together)--and the aforementioned hag-for-all-seasons, remind me a lot of each other. My sister is always, ALWAYS, the victim and never does anything wrong and the same is true of Haz's unfortunate choice of wife.
I truly hope that he can get away from her unscathed, but it's looking less and less likely with how much she's isolated him.
With regard to Will and Haz not looking anything alike, my brothers were fraternal twins and when they were born a neighbor remarked how she could tell who's son one of them was but the other could have been anyone's kid. Also, the sister who I still speak to and I are like the female version of my twin brothers. She looks like my dad and I look like my mom and if you see us together you can't tell we're sisters.
As far as modernizing the monarchy goes, Prince Philip started that when he insisted that QEII's coronation be televised, however, I don't think it will ever be "modern." Certainly it's had to evolve, but it will never be modern. I do, however, think it still has its place in the world. And I'm not saying that because I think they're essential to GB or anything like that, but I do love the continuity it represents.
I'm the eldest of four sisters, and while we share features in common that make people go, "Oh, yeah, you guys are related" we also illustrate four very different body types. My mother's parents were: mom (brown-eyed, black-haired squat Germanic dumpling. Grandma was about 4'11" and about as wide as she was tall for as long as I knew her. My maternal grandfather was a slightly built man of Irish extraction with black hair also and pale blue eyes. We were never going to get any height from this side of the family. My dad's parents were also a mix . .my paternal grandmother was brown eyed and tall for a lady in those days; one of my sisters has inherited her height and her long legs but also the hips that went with them. My dad's father was of medium height with blue eyes. This couple produced two brown haired, brown eyed sons and two blond, blue eyed kids, a son and a daughter. All my dad's side is taller than average. He, a shade under 6' was the 'shrimp' of the boys. My mother and her sisters all took after their mom with brown eyes and dark hair. All six members of my family have brown eyes and brown hair and tend to overweight. The sister right after me is the mesomorph of the group.
The youngest of us married a blue-eyed man with really nice hair (something we did not get either) and her two daughters have blue eyes and nice hair while the boy got stuck with the brown eyes. The older I get, the more I see my grandmother staring back in the mirror and I hate this because Grandma M. was not a nice woman. I got her heavy dark eyebrows with no natural arch that make me look like I'm scowling all the time. My mother has them too. Meg gets a lot of flak for her body shape, with which I am familiar, though on me the aesthetic is more 'sack of spuds' on stilts than 'Spongebob'. A waist is something I can only dream of.
Genetics are fascinating but what you get is so often not what you want. But hey, I have my health! (For now. My family tree includes all the big 'uns: Diabetes, cancer, heart disease and dementia.)
Apologies for the diversion but I've given a lot of thought to genetics. Harry and Wills' looks are very divergent, but each has features that proclaim their shared parentage. Maybe if Haz had had blond hair like Diana or brown hair like Charles, there never would have been any question of his paternity, but out he popped with red hair, just like Mummy's riding instructor. And also like both of his Spencer aunts and his uncle. Diana herself even had coppery hair as a young girl before it darkened and she resorted to aids to beauty to restore the blonde she had as a toddler.
The Harkles are so exhausting, an excursion with Dr. Mendel is always diverting. :)
From the article: "The source reacted to the many headlines, telling CNN that Prince Harry has never shied away from talking about his own mental health -- and the importance of mental fitness and well-being.The source continued that Prince Harry gave a candid and honest answer to ITV reporter Tom Bradby in the course of the documentary.
They added that any sibling or person seeing that would of course be concerned, but said the tabloids and the briefings by so-called "palace insiders and friends" are classic examples of anti-Prince Harry and Meghan hysteria.
The source added that the institution around the British royal family is full of people afraid of and inexperienced at how to best help harness and deploy the value of the royal couple who, they said, have single-handedly modernized the monarchy."
Wonder if the source was Meghan. If so , it's arrogant, deluded and rude.
Noticed your moniker and had to chime in that I'm an Octobergirl too (Oct. 4th). When's yours? Welcome to our little society where we are trying to keep each other sane amidst the insanity.
Katie Hopkins is hilarious.
Wendy has gone back and forth on MeMe but this disapproval means something. Wendy has always stayed true to her African American audience. She is no Oprah who curried white audiences. Wendy respects her white audience, but presents wht is of interest to her Black audience.
Ha ha Markle.
On a separate issue, I don't think Megs can recover from the damage she's doing to herself. Harry could probably be forgiven if he leaves her, goes away for a while, & then completely reconciles with his family. A better second marriage would help as well. His dad's second marriage seems pretty calm. Charles & Camilla seem to know how to handler their relationship, whether they spend much time together or not.
Megs, however, is too old to change her ways, IMO. Someone posted an excellent analysis here on how Megs has been marked by her long struggle in the Hollywood salt mines. That's a pretty tough environment, & you have to credit her for surviving it in a way, but it's not an experience that makes one particularly admirable or likable. If you're a money maker, if you move product, sell tickets, etc. you're tolerated, you don't even have to be particularly talented. Some actors, like Ronald Reagan, have been likable enough to mount political careers, but Megs is not that. Reagan was liked even by people who completely disagreed with him politically. Tellingly, almost everyone who worked for him stayed loyal to him even to this day. You get the feeling that a lot of people would throw Megs under the bus if she weren't protected by the RF umbrella.
I am in complete agreement that Willaim would not disrespect the Middletons with cheating.Furthermore I fail to see why they are not given all due credit for how well William has turned out. IMO as a second set of parents to him, they have helped raise him to be the man he is today. Am surprised The Queen hasn’t given them an award or title of some kind. Anyway, as you know Cancer men are all about family and his children, which makes them unlikely to stray (which is the plus of them, the minus being the moodiness, sensitivity and emotionality).
At the time the Rose Hanbury rumors surfaced, I was NOT a Markle supporter . .haven't been that since I listened to that asinine engagement pack of lies. I was a Meg supporter for a few minutes back in November 2017 when I enjoyed the engagement photos and that's about all. I hadn't heard her word salad yet and knew nothing about her. But I was incredulous that a brand-new recruit to the Family who'd only been there a few months and a foreigner besides, would have any intel on the Cambridges' circle of country friends in Norfolk or would have met the Chomondeleys. I'm sure the Sussex and Cambridge social circles were not mingling. So I was willing to give Megs the benefit of the doubt for that at least. But since then we now know that Meg pays big money to high-powered muck-rakers to dig up dirt about people she doesn't actually have contact with herself.
Will is a man and has eyes. He might have engaged in a bit of semi-drunk flirtation with his lissome neighbor. Maybe they even had an encounter, which would be a serious slip for a man who watched his mother suffer for decades with his father's infidelity. If this happened, Kate is certainly not going to go the Diana route and blow up her marriage and family out of revenge. As noted by so many others, the Cambridges are a strong and loving team with genuine enjoyment of one another. They've been a couple for nearly half their lives. This is the Markle Effect trying to poison things because that's all she knows how to do--ruin others' happiness, an emotion that she cannot feel, only ape.
It was cracking and a black women too! She was so spot on, bravo to her!
I’ve not see Katie Hopkins video, where can I find it?
On another note! Meghan has turned up at The Albert Hall, without Harry.
And Dickie Arbiter’s daughter has something to say!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7600911/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-renounce-royal-privileges-South-Africa-move.html
"'But with all the problems that are going on there I just don't see how we would be able to really make as much difference as we'd want to.'"
What does that even mean? What exactly is the difference they want to make? Save the animals as opposed to ending warfare, malnutrition, violence against women and children? It's just too hard!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600583/Conservative-commentator-Candace-Owens-lashes-Meghan-Markle.html
So, much comes down to their spouses. In truth we don't know all that much about Catherine, except for how she comes across through her husband and children, and that's probably as it should be. But if pictures tell a thousand words, Catherine seems warm, genuine, kind, nurturing, enthusiastic, happy, caring and lovely. Harry chose the opposite of Catherine in every single way that he possibly could.
Neutral Observer, the problem with this repeated rumour is that Diana met James Hewitt for the first time when Harry was a toddler (it has been established as a fact) and the Diana/Charles marriage (and subsequent infidelities) did not happen until after Harry's birth.
https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/paternity-testing-blood-types-and-dna-374/
William and Catherine have been together for nearly 20 years. If they were still gazing at each other adoringly all of the time and clinging to each other it would be odd. Plus, I just don't think either of them are particularly demonstrative people. Look at her family -- they are all extremely close and supportive of each other, but you don't see them hanging all over each other. By all accounts, William adores the Middleton family and frankly I wouldn't blame him if he chooses to avoid the whole shitshow at Sandringham if the Markles show up and instead decides to take off with his wife and kids to Bucklebury to spend the holidays with her family.
I've said ever since the terrible two got engaged it wouldn't last five years, and I stand by that. The problem is, when MeGain dumps Harry, he is going to have a complete meltdown. She's already got him ghosting his family just like she did hers, and he's completely addicted and dependent on her now. She makes me sick. I honestly think she is truly evil.
Cause I think they know that Britain is not their playground and they want US and World domination. They know exactly especially MM that this documentary will WORK WONDERS in the USA because Americans perceive things differently and they do not have a great understanding of whats been REALLY going on with H & MM and all of their nonsense behaviour.
Their trip to US is going to be an important one. Trust me... this is the trip where they are going to meet and network as much as they can and seek more "opportunities" to be out there. Now this can range from speaking opportunities to more "humanitarian" work etc. Even TV/film pertaining to worldly issues. This is also an opportunity for MM to meet her newly hired PR company in LA to work on strategies. I am also thinking that the PR company has advised her to use the Thomas Markle weapon and fake a "make peace".
And of course how can we forget, the paps that will be hired in LA for both for H & MM to make sure she lets us know where she goes for her yoga and gets her organic lattes.