Here's an open post to discuss Duchess Meghan's speech tonight at Royal Albert Hall, which comes just a few hours after a Sussex "source" told CNN that "the institution around the British Royal family is full of people afraid of and inexperienced at how to best help harness and deploy the value of the royal couple who, they said, have single-handedly modernized the monarchy."
Meghan is wearing a long purple dress and a long dark wig for her speech, which will address a global youth organization.
Meghan is wearing a long purple dress and a long dark wig for her speech, which will address a global youth organization.
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That colour is great on her, and for the first time in a while, she's not trying to squeeze into a dress that's at least a size too small. If anything, it's too big. She never ever gets the fit right, does she? Hair is sloppy though.
The BRF has been modernizing for years...decades...since Diana died.
I can't believe the BRF needs the "help" H&M can provide right now. Harry is obviously emotionally fragile and needs to get himself sorted out. Meghan is, apparently, chomping at the bit for a 6-week vacation after a 5-month maternity leave and one 10-day overseas tour.
The Sussexes are "tired and burnt out"? I invite them to work my job, manage my household, on my salary, without assistance from secretaries, drivers, house cleaners, cooks, hair stylists, etc., and all with three weeks vacation a year to avoid burn out. FYI, I've been doing it for years. I didn't cave after one rough year, because everyone was so "unfair" to me and didn't ask if I was "okay".
So have fun with your speech, little Miss Meghan. You and your husband managed to make a tour of Africa all about you. I'm sure tonight's speech will also have its Me, Me, ME! imprint on it, as well.
Also, take a good look at the Cambridges. Seems to me they've done a stellar job modernizing the BRF, balancing family and work, and as far as I know, neither of them had a breakdown doing it.
Just please...could this purple dress she's going to wear NOT have a tied belt around the waist? Another style of dress every now and again is a good thing.
The dress is fine. I like it!
Her hair is a mess, but that's to be expected at this point.
As for modernizing the monarchy, no. We like our Royals steadfast and traditional. That’s why they survive.
And I really do with that she would get a new wig. This one makes her look skanky.
@Humor Me, I see the two colors too. I think you are right, she is wearing an undergarment (spanx?) and you can see that through the dress. Unfortunate. I do find the color to be lovely on her, but yes, her hair is too much. She is trying to "soften" her appearance as I am sure she's been told the bun makes her look severe.
I am sure SS told her to appear as vulnerable as possible as this event will ride the coattails of the documentary....must continue the farce!
Im Wondering if she will be in damage control mode tonight, esp after the sever backlash, Williams statements to the BBC and the public thinking the both of them are now mentally unhinged. It's going to be awkward I'm sure, considering that this has been a very mainstream discussion in the country for the past two days. There's no way that it won't be on the mind of those present there.
That being said, I feel mm will now double down and really unleash the beast. She is now almost in survival mode, very very angry and on the offensive because she probably feels she is now on her own.
It should be noted that after the documentary this is the first time that one of them is out in the public and it's only been 2 days, it's still too fresh in publics memory. Harry conveniently hasn't been seen or heard from so far. All other major players in this shit show - HMTQ, Charles, William, MM have been out working. Shame on you Harry. Whatever her faults may be, your wife has bigger balls than you do.
Does she though? Can you imagine what the media would be saying if she just up and decided NOT to show her face at this event? It's not balls that has her there, it's her desire for attention. She LOVES this.
Spot on. Get up at 5 am to get read for work, drive an hour and a half, work an 8 - 12 hour day, drive back home, make dinner, clean up, do what chores had to be done - bed by hopefully 11 pm and rinse and repeat for 20+ years. My husband works 2 jobs just to make ends meet since I had to quit to be a full time caregiver to my MIL. Can't afford vacations just staycations and oh yeah - "they're just living not thriving". Cry me a river. We just get on with it because we have to. We don't have a choice, this is life and we have do what needs doing.
Back on topic - that dress isn't too bad but couldn't she get it tailored? She still looks messy and the hair!! I honestly hope she gets booed.
@Louise500 I haven't read the DM yet or more to the point, the comments. I'll have to check it out.
Also did anyone else notice the awkward greeting with the lady in white when she walked on stage? Mm almost pounced on the lady while this lady is trying to curtsey to her, then she wrapped her in the most awkward bear hug and wouldn't let go. I almost thought she was going start bawling there and then.
(May I call you D, as Markle refers to Harry as "H"?)
She doesn't look unfazed or unhappy though. But it's been a few days since the filming and I'm sure she treated herself to a few spa days and siho house dinners since then. It also probably helps that her beloved husband is now a blubbering mental mess and persona nongrata for his family. So that's one goal accomplished for her.
One thing I noticed though is that she is so awkward in her gait, walk, her constant grin yet so cocksure of herself at the same time. That's in the most off things about her, tats what makes you dislike her instantly.
Maybe she asked her if she was "ok" 😎😁
I live in Canada and am bare legged from May-Sept, then wear thick tights during the winter, but only to keep warm.
Her dress is lovely and her makeup is very well done but those black curtains she is wearing on her head need to go.
She’s wearing her good wig (the bottoms aren’t nearly as dry as whatever was going on in Africa). It’s hanging in her face though, which is a fail.
I agree she looks like she’s on something. Something strong.
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read the comment from a markle insider about the royals being too afraid and inexperienced to deal with the modernizing force of the Harkles.
They need to fire Sara Latham IMMEDIATELY. Like HRC, Meghan is taking the tactic of blaming everyone for not loving her and not being ready for super-progressiveness instead of blaming her own hypocrisy (Hillary’s main hypocrisy is riding her rapist husband’s coat tails to ascendance in politics and never ONCE taking the side of the women he victimized) and shadiness. A decent PR person would strategize to fix that image, not belittle others for having an unfavorable opinion of their client. What the hell?!
Any appearances they make from now on they should observe and listen as other folks run the show and give speeches. They have publicly stated they're 1) not OK and 2) they find it hard to get out of bed in the morning
On CB a poster was attacked today for actually giving very sound advice. They suggested the Sussex pair focus on the good press they have received and try to ignore the negative press. This poster was raked over the coals by the usual suspects.
Now, it may be a bit late to ignore negative press for H&M. Some of it is not out of turn. But I thought it was good life advice in general. If they're not going to listen to their advisors, they could at least choose to ignore stories they call patently false.
https://blogs.wsj.com/source/2010/12/06/microfinance-is-grameen-founder-muhammad-yunus-a-bloodsucker-of-the-poor/
Sorry about the paywall.
My gravest concern that she is going to concoct her “Beyonce moment” up there on stage and belly cup to signal a pregnancy.
It isn’t a British thing, it’s a Royal thing, The Queen doesn’t like to see bare legs. So stockings or tights.
As for pantyhose or stockings or whatever you call them, you really should wear them to a formal occasion. Even to some jobs. Going barelegged is not an option if you are a female CEO of a financial institution. Even in summer.
Just a letter? H?
This made me think of how Jay-Z and Beyoncé refer to each other as "J" and "B" in their songs. At least their nicknames also sound like their names.
"H" as a nickname sounds ridiculous.
I think she is LOVING that she is there on her own and doesn't have to share the spotlight with him, personally.
While everyone is up in arms about how to deal with a couple of members of this famous family who are seemingly beyond their control, an insider provides a glimpse as to exactly how it happened.
She was quite cunning. She talked to him about his mother all the time. She used the pain he felt about losing his mother to make him rely on her and to turn him against everyone else in his family.
She told him that he is actually “a wounded little boy” and that his family was wrong for making him act stoically. She also told him that he should never forget how terribly his family treated his mother.
there's more at the link.
I hadn’t realised Sir Bob Geldof was connected and wonder how he feels about her as he has always been outspoken whenever it is needed.
In what I saw, she did not look frail, having difficulty coping, moving. I would say she appeared quite confident on every level.
How interesting. Does not look like a care in the world (or about who is at home and how they are).
#sarcasmMode
Thanks for the link. I was discussing how Meghan has obviously opened up that festered wound of Harry’s today with a relative. So, the Blind says it all about this how she works, she’s made Harry need her and only her, and her way of doing and looking at things is the only way.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B37w7v7pHzy/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet
Yikes.
It refers to a famous family, I’ve not heard of either one if those two, and no comments have been published yet. There have been a number of blinds on Blind Gossip about the Sussex’s and the royal family.
I agree with Louise about the DM comments, mostly negative, hardly 50/50 split.
Invoking your own mother's tragic death to demand the press stop calling out your hypocritical wife is downright disgusting.
Meghan Markle is a witch.
Harry is under her spell.”
-Candace Owens
Whether or not you agree with Candace politically, I’m sure you’ll agree she’s spot-on with this matter. She’s also gutsy and won’t backtrack on this statement.
Neither does she want privacy.
What Meghan wants is freedom from the consequences of her actions. She wants to spend everything, behave like a diva, a Madonna or a *itch, dump her friends, her family, her "son", live where she wants, say what she wants, and she wants to do it all with impunity.
Harry IS depressed and/or anxious, but other than that he also wants to do whatever without having to answer to anyone or face the consequences of his actions.
That ain't reality, though.
Diana paid the ultimate price for rejecting RPOs, not wearing a seat belt, and having a fling with Dodi. It is not the media's fault.
What Meghan and Harry want they can *only* have if they shed the spotlight.
Meghan doesn't want to fade away either, so she will continue demanding her way, and in the process heap more acorn in herself and her hapless husband.
“Using African children as a backdrop to complain about your over-privileged life is offensive.
Invoking your own mother's tragic death to demand the press stop calling out your hypocritical wife is downright disgusting.
Meghan Markle is a witch.
Harry is under her spell.”
-Candace Owens
Whether or not you agree with Candace politically, I’m sure you’ll agree she’s spot-on with this matter. She’s also gutsy and won’t backtrack on this statement."
Can I just say how thrilled I was when Candace Owens spoke up about Markle? I realise I may be in the minority here, but I'm such a fan of her work. She's everything that Markle sold herself as, but failed to deliver on. She's smart, tough, classy, articulate, and passionate. She speaks with conviction and has the guts to stand up for herself and her beliefs, but also has the humility to learn as she goes. Also, she is authenticity proud of her African American heritage, is also in an interracial relationship with a charmingly posh white englishman, but doesn't politicise either fact or define herself by those issues. In every respect, Candace is the role model that Meghan should have been. It just highlights what a wasted opportunity Markle represents for the monarchy, really.
(Sorry, offtopic I know, but I really admire Cadace.)
🐛
We have recently been bombarded with the SA tour (which included the Archie & Tutu meeting, as well as the suspected photos for the H&M clothing website), publicly donating Archie's hand me downs to the mothers2mothers group, the lawsuit, all of the hype for the documentary, the interviews where H&M whine, the statement from a "source" to CNN, and now this.
Did I miss anything?
Her hugging is grabby and unprofessional. Good grief she almost decked the lady in white on stage.
I’ve never heard of her, but I saw what she said in the DM. She was sooo spot on with what she said, and I too was thrilled such a piece.
Her comment etc., was bought up on the last post, the last couple of comments.
One of the comments in the DM said that Meagain had lessons in catching Prince Harry, in grooming him and getting him into the state he is now. He said that it was being done to bring down the Royal Family by an organised group. He questioned who the organisation was. I replied SoHo House. First time I have replied on DM, but I might as well not have bothered as they didn’t print it, nor the second or third time I replied. These people obviously have some power despite the post Moxy made yesterday which was almost verbatim from their own web page.
I may be barking up the wrong tree but think they are very shady.
Just had a quick look at Meagain at the Albert Hall. I so wanted her to fall down those stairs!!!
I may be barking up the wrong tree but think they are very shady."
@Clarissa, there is a theory that Meghan is being fronted by powerful backers with an ultimate end goal of eroding public support for the British monarchy. The theory goes that the monarchy represents a fading but tangible symbol of British national identity. The monarchy also has the institutional power - in theory - to check government overeach should the monarch judge it to be in the public interest. If we accept the premise that there is indeed a shadowy globalist network that seeks to disolve old ideas about nationhood in order to empower a new international political oligarchy and increase centralised control over the public, getting rid of the monarchy would represent a key symbolic victory for such a group, no? Rather like the destruction of religious institutions in Mao's cultural revolution or Lenin's purge of the Russian aristocracy, political extremists first destroy the symbolic power that unifies a populus in order to remake the culture according to their own ideals. It sounds farfetched, but you don't have to buy into conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and Freemasons to believe that there are some very powerful elietists that would love to get rid of the monarchy. And Meghan's unlikely rise in status does seem to imply powerful backing...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10192062/prince-harry-stronger-out-of-touch-royals/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
My opinion is that in dealing with this, the monarchy must accept that they are dealing with an out-of-control and dangerous narc and Harry is subliminally crying for help but consciously completely under her spell.
I only have two criticisms of her appearance: . Instead of the (keep it fr the bedroom) hair hanging over the sides of her face, she could have swept those pieces up and pinned them with a diamond brooch for a classier look. 2. The dress needed a statement necklace (think Diana). Darn, there is a 3 ...too much bronzer on her face.
Do you think she was getting those expensive designer dresses on loan (and designers are no longer loaning her dresses because she is too controversial and looks unkempt) and bought a basic wardrobe that she now has to re-wear? In the first few months, definitely pre-birth, she wore fabulous designer wear. Or, is she being a narc responding to criticism with passive aggression? Or are pregnancy clothes the only ones that fit her now?
@Bardsey, thanks for the hug. Really needed at the moment. It really annoys me when celebrities jump on the bandwagon with Mental Health. I doubt they would know real depression if it jumped up and hit them in the face.
“Can I just say how thrilled I was when Candace Owens spoke up about Markle? I realise I may be in the minority here, but I'm such a fan of her work. She's everything that Markle sold herself as, but failed to deliver on. She's smart, tough, classy, articulate, and passionate. She speaks with conviction and has the guts to stand up for herself and her beliefs, but also has the humility to learn as she goes. Also, she is authenticity proud of her African American heritage, is also in an interracial relationship with a charmingly posh white englishman, but doesn't politicise either fact or define herself by those issues. In every respect, Candace is the role model that Meghan should have been. It just highlights what a wasted opportunity Markle represents for the monarchy, really.
(Sorry, offtopic I know, but I really admire Cadace.)”
I agree wholeheartedly. I have long admired Candace Owens for her willingness to express unpopular opinions and then refusing to backtrack on what was said. I may not always agree with every political viewpoint she has, but she is one of the few public figures with a spine that stays true to her beliefs and doesn’t back down (even when scolded in a Congressional hearing by Jerry Nadler when he slammed his gavel and mistakenly accused her of calling a member “stupid”)
Why in the hell would Harry pick a fight with his brother? Doesn't he understand who will be holding the purse strings in the future?
Meghan is either acting or bi-polar? Depressed at one moment, exuberant another.
I doubt very seriously the royal family is concerned they will look out of touch.
I'm an American and I cannot stomach what those two are doing to the BRF and the British/Commonwealth public. Send them over here and they will be skewered by the tabloids, dropped by their celebrity friends eventually and realize they are a 'tiny fish in a big pond'. No one will care!
It makes it harder for people who don't have much day to day contact with someone who has mental health issues to walk away thinking that M has problems but look how she's able to pull it all together and do this. So why can't so and so?
In my family, there are people with a variety of mental health issues. It doesn't walk but gallops in some people.
it's harder on the people who have real problems when people claim they have a real problem and don't
sorry
the dress color is OK (picked it for Royal color) and it does look slightly large for her, maybe I’m wrong and she won’t pat her belly to anounce she’s preggo again on remebrance day. IMO the blue shoes don’t work and she should have stuck with a neutral. She should wear hose. her hair is all over the plac. i prefer embracing natural hair for all, and think she should go natural ather than fake extensions/ straighteners, etc. she’s not authentic or empowering if she can’t embrace her natural hair and needs to hide with the fake processed hair.
she’s preaching to her choir at that event so the people there are her ‘woke’ people and love her. i imagine the general public is more like the DM commenters.
OT: I don’t know what the Queens will and (phillip/charles) entails for the grankiddies but I hope in Harry’s case she adjusts her will/ or trust that was set up for him to he never can have access to the principle and can only get a yearly stipend/ interest amount to protect it. I think PH has shown he can’t be trusted to control something like that and is very suseptible to outside influence. MM probably has no financial sense based on her family members multple bankruptcies and MM would burn through that money in no time. or he would lose it in a divorce.
The reposte' stated that "the American news media had better quit posting on rubbish they have no knowledge of." The poster did not comprehend that this may have been a PR piece commissioned by the Sussex duo! They had no knowledge of who/ what SS is to M & H......SMH at the level of trollbot supporters of these two.
Third picture down after Harry and Wills.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10192062/prince-harry-stronger-out-of-touch-royals/
Harry is drinking his own Kool-Aid now.
Why Harry thinks he can win this is a mystery to me. The Firm will support William over Harry. That is how it must be.
Also, conspiracy theories are part of the gossip IMO.
My Norwegian grandmother and a friend's German mother both thought that purple was for prostitutes. Perhaps that is an old fashioned, Scandinavian or Germanic notion. It was the first thought that popped into my mind seeing her dress.
I wonder about the rings. Perhaps she is giving us something to blab about. A former boss said something interesting about preparing for an audit - leave a few obvious things for them to cite because they are obligated to cite something.
Harry claims that he feels stronger than ever. I think he looks like a skeleton. I blame it on stress or malnutrition. Can't she see that?
I have alcoholic neighbors on a downward spiral which is heartbreaking to watch. The male is wasting away, looking like a scarecrow. He is in his forties but looks decades older. The female is the same age as his mother, although she lied and said she was 10 years younger when they first met. Similar dynamic, but more codependent. Odd how wounded people tend to be drawn to other wounded people. Sometimes they heal together. Other times, as with my neighbors and the Sussexes, they bring put the worst traits of each other.
Suprised they didn't do a feature of the renovations with an environmental focus.
Imagining a "where's Waldo" style cartoon with Harry covering his balding head with a striped hat amongst a bunch 9f frogs.
Dan Wooten of the Sun says the latest Sussex friend says that PH isn’t fragile and he’s strong as can be, it’s the institution full of panicked people that are out of touch, and fear being blamed for not supporting them. Or basically they are throwing william and the rest of the firm under the bus. Sounds like SS is trying to replay the whole Diana drama again and sway the public. For people that supposedly want privacy this seems like a very strange respons. The firm/ BRF should shut down all communication in refernce to the sussexes and drop them from the payroll/ positions / patronages. Let them both have their privacy andd live as private citizens. When PH is ready to come back to the family , maybe they can work something new out. Playing the drama out in the media isn’t helping the situtation because it’s what MM thrives on
Yes, absolutely. Don't know why I didn't make that connection!
And H certainly doesn't *look* well as others have noted.
It certainly seems that way.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7602805/Friends-say-Prince-Harry-never-stronger-dismiss-claims-fragile-place.html
"Friends say Prince Harry has 'never been stronger'".. completely the opposite of what he said in the documentary
The Cat's Meow: Thanks for that link. to the picture of Smarkle in the Sun. Horrible. A real greaseball. And those eyebrows and overbleached teeth. Oy!
I loved one DM comment about Meghan going on yet again about writing that letter aged 11 (mainstream media please dissect for those not on the ball). This person wrote that they gave all their 8th birthday presents for Band Aid. Should they get a standing ovation?
Every new permutation by these two is so enraging. There are never ANY consequences for them. If this were another time they’d be tossed into the Tower of London for treason. Why does Buckingham Palace have no backbone? What happened with the promised savior Lord Geidt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulykJ0071Y
But looking at it again, it reminds me of a Political Candidate, entering the arena when they are kicking off their campaign. I really believe she is so delusional and removed from reality, that she thinks she can be US President.
When will the RF do something? I believe both these two bullies (for that is what they are) should immediately be removed of the 'burden' of their titles and royal responsibilities, so they can live the private life they say they want.
1. He's behaving this inconsiderately and disgracefully because he's mentally fragile. Therefore he needs help but cannot represent the BRF.
2. He's mentally strong therefore there's no excuse for behaving this inconsiderately and disgracefully. Therefore he should not represent the BRF.
It's that simple and I can't see a way to weasel out of this. Only the BRF's genetic ostrich tendency - the Queen Mother's most durable gift - can save them now.
I've believed for sometime now their weird couple dynamic is fueled by both of them being narcissistic and entitled to some extent. But what's become apparently clear iver the past few months that mm wants to appear blameless and hence sticks to passive agressive mean girl tactics of emotional manipulation while Hairy is one out with guns blazing and breathing fire. If one startes to nitpick his behaviors it becomes obvious that he wants to exhibit a grandiose in control image, hence his very well thought of remarks on having two children, wanting to save his family, the media statement, his soundbites to Bradby in the interview. He has, over and over again, intensified the rumours about the rift. She on the other hand wants to project the image that she is out their living her best life. And in my opinion she is.
They are both certifiably bonkers and painfully immature. Mm certainly has shattered any illusions of being smart, talented, spiritual and happy go lucky girl next door that she so painstakingly curated in the lead up to her wedding. Harpys decline in appearance and sanity, and more importantly, his declining loyalty towards his lineage is for everyone to see. The temperature tantrum is only escalating with the media articles quoting sources. It also seems that while their state of mental we'll being is not being questioned, it's just a facade to be bullying his family. Not for anything other that the sake of it.
Also,I've said it before but I'll say it again because I really do believe it - MMs sloppy dressing is less vanity more strategy. It's one she is trying to convince us and believed husband, that she is under duress. And Harry is lashing out not because his home life has become unbearable with constant fights blameing and shaming him for being weak and British.
The true victim here is Archie. I am actually glad he is a boy as narc mother’s often do more damage to daughters.
What started as a real life reality show full of palace intrigue and gossip has now turned very dark. I’m not sure I have the stomach to continue to follow this story.
I hate to say it but I think our collective hand wringing will not matter a bit. There is no Lord G putting her in her place. No POW who doesn’t want to alienate his son even more, no brotherly bond, no granny Queen to fix this mess. The calls for a Republic grow louder. If I was a Brit, I would be in agreement. Why fund this dysfunction in any way? We Americans have our celebrities who provide us with this nonsensical entertainment, but we don’t subsidize the Kardashian’s and our Presidents and politicians have actually fought and worked their way to their position. We don’t have to like them, but none are there because of their birth or who they married. Harry is a joke and his wife might just modernize the monarchy right out if existence,
This bizarre incident was noticed on a couple of blogs and is now being reported in the Express.
It's complicated and I am not sure I can summarise it well.
Background: Meghan and her team use social media to plant stories that are then picked up by the tabloids or MSM.
This tweet was from 12 October and is from a Meghan fan/William and Kate hater. (It is in support of Meghan as a force of change who is shaking up the establishment and it is very provocative and is from someone hiding behind a pseudonym.)
The official Royal Family account only likes tweets from charities and organizations or from people involved in the engagements they attended. Why would they have liked this tweet at this time?
Was it Meghan or someone on her team who has fired a shot in the war?
Apparently, social media accounts supporting MM (sockpuppet accounts, YouTube channels, etc) are popping up all over the place. SS are earning their fee!
of being anti-white and anti-male. Harry is an idiot.
@EFarrell, I agree with you about everything except...she will be stopped. Don't know how long it will take, but it will happen. William is not someone I would cross. If Harry has to go to save the legacy for Prince George, then so be it.
https://the-best-soap-opera-ever.tumblr.com/post/188522782861/submission
I noticed the DM comments have suddenly turned all positive. SS at work while people sleep?
Seriously. The comments are overwhelmingly positive. It’s so weird.
I've removed some of the wildest posts - and, as usual, I 100% support your right to express these ideas someplace else. Just not here.
(And for the record, I highly doubt that either William or Harry are "the Antichrist" as expressed in the Book of Revelations.)
What in the world is Meghan doing walking through a crowd, particularly a crowd that was expecting her?
Her RPOs must be throwing up their hands in despair.
FWIW, I have been to Royal Albert Hall, and I know they have a cursory security screening when you go in as an audience member. But that can't account for some lunatic who lunges at Meg - perhaps with a plastic knife the screening doesn't pick up, or perhaps just to give her a big enthusiastic bear hug.
If something happened to Meg at this juncture, the conspiracy theories would never stop.
If she had any sense, just days after that weepathon airing on TV, she would come in looking a little subdued, make a low key entrance (as royals normally do), and make sure she was dressed impeccably and modestly. But here we have the person who just days ago told us she was 'existing, not living', whose husband said that every single flash bulb is traumatising for him, and now she is out there grinning from ear to ear, striding onto the stage like a two bit celebrity and overall giving the impression that there's nowhere she'd rather be than in the limelight, being fawned over by strangers.
Meghan was right when she said 'they don't make it easy'. She's making it hard for even her fanz to defend her these days.
Meanwhile as Meghan sucks all the air out of the room once again. Charles and every other European Royal is in Japan for the enthronement of the new Emperor.
Not one peep from The British tabloids about it while the obsess over the Markle Debaaacle Duo.
I bet she is lying on her bronzer-soaked pillow this morning basking in the afterglow of all that "adulation". She appears quite delusional.
LOL.
PA's pedo doc aired with little attention. Mission accomplished?
Didn't Eton do enough to teach Harry how dumb he is, & that he should be humble? Oh, maybe they did, & that's why he seems to let Megs wear the pants & do the thinking for him. I agree with a poster above who implied all his lashing out might be because he's being emasculated at home. We know Megs has that in her.
That’s incorrect, the DM had an article about it yesterday, and it was still there till this morning. I didn’t check other papers.
narcs in my family and what always astonished me is how conflict is their life’s blood. People commenting that she looks rested and like the cat with the canary... that’s just how my family members would look after ruining special occasions and holidays. Whereas a normal person would have their stomach in knots over conflict, the narcissist thrives on the chaos and misery they create in others (because it matches the misery and chaos going on in themselves). it’s truly chilling to see how they literally don’t care how unhappy they make the people around them and how they get off on making people miserable.
I’ll bet you a pot of hot tea that she looked the exact same way after she made Kate cry at Charlottes fitting. Ditto for when Harry confronted them (while Kate was pregnant) over not being welcoming enough to Meghan. That satisfies, man-eating grin. Poor Harry. That poor dumb bastard.
I’ve just googled the story, most if not all the British press carried the story in the newspapers.
I remember how Lainey made a big deal out of the photo last year. In her mind, the photo was the ultimate seal of approval from the Queen. I wonder what she will say now that the photo is no more there
Combined with feeling so depressed the next night she is out and about grinning from ear to ear.
I do see them doing quite well in this battle but they are doing too much too soon.
3 years ago PH was a popular bloke who ladies fancied and was seen as a nice person, rather informal and happy go lucky. No one ever thought he was ever going to achieve much but no one minded.
Fast forward to now and he's lashing out at people, telling them how to live their lives and warning them about unconscious bias (we have it but he doesn't obvs) whilst complaining about his terrible life.
It's just way too fast. MM is social hand grenade. You can argue who did what to who and when, but the simple fact is that this has all kicked off since he's known her. Everything has changed because of her and he has changed because of her. This will run and run. I didn't like her before but the speed and severity of her comments and actions in the last week is a real surprise, capped off by the CNN quote. It points towards a delusional egotist with no shame. This is only just the start...
Now James Blunt is coming out in support of the Markles...and cites the "vitriolic" criticism leans towards bullying. Everything is bullying nowadays, isn't it? He also says that his good pal Harry was a great soldier, blah blah blah. That right there tells me this is a bunch of BS. Other soldiers (not paid) who served with Harry shared very different opinions on his time in the service, so I'm more inclined to believe them.
HRHYSTERIA Meghan Markle and Prince Harry ‘paranoid’ for claiming they single-handedly modernised the monarchy, say Palace aides -SUN
They do move in the same circles, including their shared friendship with Jessica Mulroney. Mulroney was also dressing Trudeau's wife Sophie early in his first mandate as PM (including merch from Aritizia) , until the press lost interest in her and her word salads. Interestingly, Sophie Trudeau was also criticized and mocked for claiming that she was under stress and therefore needed taxpayer funded staff. She made her request for staff through an interview with a magazine. (Unlike the US, the wives of the PM do not have an official function and do not normally have their own staff)
From reality TV to politics we now live in a culture of feuds between groups/people. The media are fanning this, as are the actors involved, as it guarantees a media audience for everyone involved which translates to $$$ in a variety of ways.
MM knows this, and knows that she doesn't have to win over everyone, just enough that she will have her own audience. It's the same across the world where the only news that sells, and therefore gets reported, is a reality show 'feud' between people,a twitter feud, or politicians calling each other out and feuding using inflammatory language.
This is the state we're in. We're being fed a daily dose of feuds across numerous sectors of society, from the top to the bottom, because it sells and the media is happy to fan the flames. Or sometimes make up disagreements where there is none.
Either way it's frustrating to see as real life isn't like that (normally), and the media is distorting how people see the real world.
Let's face it, what MM does shouldn't really bother us too much but it gets under our skin thanks to the gleeful reporting from a variety of news outlets. Gotta get the $$$ from those clicks!
Either way it's annoying, and it's not an excuse for MM who is actively using this phenomenon to forward her own agenda based most likely on her ego and distorted view of herself.
That has to be a world record for how many times the word 'feud' was used in just a few sentences...
What angers me is that the overuse of the term detracts from the problem of real bullying. Here in Canada, we have had several cases of young people taking their own lives because of bullying. In some cases, it was caused by uncontrolled social media and the circulation of nude photos of young girls, in others it was boys who were relentlessly bullied at school, with the school unable/unwilling to punish the perpetrators.
I think he, as well as the whole royal family is upset about how MM is bitch slapping HM The Queen over and over again with ingratitude and deliberately ignoring the rules. It is beyond lack of respect. She has actually taken The Queen on.
As for Eton, I believe it did convince Harry that he is stupid, when he is not, and he is enraged about it. Yet he still believes the programming so he allows “the smart one” his wife to run the show.
These are young heroes who deserved to have the "light shined on them" by the media, but who lost out to Smarkle's Halloween store wig.
So I think it's safe to say he's not the sharpest tool in the royal shed.
When I was in HS, if there was any bullying, it was at school and that was it. Social media has given bullies a way to bully their victim 24 hours a day and to a wider audience! Sadly, while we continue to teach kids to "ignore" bullies...it's gotten increasingly harder to do so.
Can one say that what we are doing is a form of bullying? Maybe. The larger difference still remains that this couple lives off the money taken from UK taxpayers. In essence, the taxpayers are the "employer" and the royal family the "employee." While they are getting paid by the taxpayer, the taxpayer has the right to expect them to comport themselves in a manner that respects the sacrifices THEY the taxpayer are making to ensure the family lives in the lap of luxury. They do NOT expect to have their money thrown in their face with fancy dresses, luxury private jet flights, all the while being told that THEY shouldn't do/have the same because it's bad for the environment. Further, they shouldn't be lied to by these same employees. My goodness, if I did what these two have done, I'd be tossed out on my rear end.
THAT is what is not fair.
Jen: In my opinion, if someone choses to put themselves in the spotlight, then the criticism cannot be considered bullying if the comments are based on facts. If not, how could we even run a democracy if criticism of every politician and opinion maker was labeled "bullying".
Smarkle did say that she didn't think that the criticism was "fair", but this was generic comment. What, exactly, was not fair? If she could rebut the criticisms with actual facts, I would reconsider her concerns.
1. She gets quite a but of screen time, the walk takes some time. Its very attention grabbing because the entire audience has to turn around to look at her as she descends.
2. She walks down the stairs, metaphorical almost, an angel descending from the heaven. And her demeaner, smile, thrusting the chest forward, parting the hair curtain certainly conveys that that's the narrative playing out in her mind.
3. It's a good way for her to wash her hands off of the Wimbledon fiasco. She walks through a crowd, unconcerned about her security, she also weirdly touches a couple of people unexpectedly as she walks on. You can see the people she bumps into and touches are surprised. She wants to show that she is one of the people but still above them.
4. She is beaming maniacally through out, she has planned this walk. The awkward hug at the stage with the lady in white is that split second where her calm and confidence slips because she can't wait to ounce on the poor hapless lady and SHIW her friendliness and approachability. Yet, she is definitely a tad but unnerved to be putting on such a display.
I've been to the Royal albert hall, and usually when they have a guest of honour, they would either already be on the stage or come from backstage/sidelines/friend row. So the long walk was definitely planned and demanded.
However, Meghan doesn't have to read one single word of what is written about her. In fact, just a few months ago she said she does exactly that. Plus, she is not physically stalked or harassed at all - the taxpayer funded RPOS see to that.
So how, exactly, is she being 'bullied'?
This is her ranting about Harry's family because they don't give her the time of the day. They probably just go off to sleep once she starts speaking. Or maybe they don't reply to her 'gm 2 all' 5 am msg everyday on that WhatsApp group and now she is pissed.
Agree that she can't distinguish between bullying and legitimate criticism. And yet in that documentary she said she would be the first to stand up and admit her mistakes. No sign of that happening any time soon. No humility whatsoever. I would like her to come out with what lies exactly have been spun, so she could defend herself against them and we could point out what we know to be the facts.
Also her split second micro reactions during the interview are very telling. I watched her interview this morning and she is way over the top in the Archie reveal part and trying too hard to convey her emotions in the trenches coat part.
I would like her to come out with what lies exactly have been spun, so she could defend herself against them and we could point out what we know to be the facts.
By the British press...since that seems to be the "bully" in this accusation. I do not know of any truly false press they've received, do you? I know the average DM commentator, and other blogs on the web (like this one) have commentators who have been less than flattering regarding her appearance but they are average people, not the press. Are they again blurring the lines between press and public? Attributing what the public is saying on to the press because they can't very well sue the public, can they?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6781106/thomas-markle-believes-meghan-markle-terrified-of-new-life/
It's such a farce.
For quite a while she actually lived in Apartment 1A at Kensington Palace, with Princess Margaret, and what she has to say about security there really brings home, afresh, all the needless additional expense caused, no doubt by Meghan, by moving to Frogmore. Simply because she must have sowed so much unrest at KP. (We can see imagine this even more now we've seen last night's cat with the canary look, having caused the greatest amount of chaos yet.)
Anyway, Anne Glenconner writes of KP:
"As the apartment was in the Palace complex, it was completely guarded and safe, and for me it was bliss not having to worry about security, leaving windows and doors unlocked and the keys in the car. A luxury I don’t imagine Princess Margaret had any awareness of, but something I really valued."
Really sums it up. And as far as we know Harry was perfectly happy there before she came along. I remember reading about Harry dropping in and eating William and Kate out of house and home, and Kate teasing Harry about how scruffy his shoes were. They seemed to be a solid team. Oh why couldn't he have married a straightforward woman who loved babies and labradors and was happy having all his old (now lost) friends over for Sunday lunch? A lovely estate in Herefordshire too (if I've got the county right. My idea of heaven. Love that part of the country.)
I also do not think grades in school denote intelligence. Have known plenty of people who were poor students, or who never went to college at all, yet who did extremely well in life. I was a straight-A student all through school and university only because I could write an essay and had a knack for multiple-choice questions. Yet I am certain that many people on this blog are smarter than me. As everyone knows there are many kinds of intelligence. I can’t blanket say that Harry has none of them. Whatever insanity he is in seems like addiction to me. And I feel angry at him for it.
Finally I think his grades could very well be due to learning disabilities and depression similar to James Middleton, who describes his struggles so beautifully in this article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/exclusive-james-middleton-engagement-battling-depression-finding/
I couldn’t help but wonder if the article was James’ and Kate’s way of telegraphing to Harry.
Harry is certainly not blamless in this and he has allowed all this to spectacularly unfold withing 2 years of his marriage. But he is still an entitled brat who had grown up knowing his privilage and reveling in it all his life. He may bit want to do his duties, he may feel restricted by he still feels duty bound by the circumstance of his birth. He would have carried on in his capacity as Charles son, Williams brother. This drama that his wife has created around him is bound to affect him profoundly. And by forcing everyone's hand so publicly, she is infact saying to her husband 'see I told you they are not what they seem, they don't actually care about you, they will throw under the bus and I'm doing you a favor by showing you their true colours'.
Harry's frustration is palpable, he is clearly out of his depth and does not know how to handle the shit storm he stirred up. And to him the best course forward probably is to carry on what he started. She would also have convinced him in some way that he has infact burnt all bridges and would not be accepted back into the family even if he does want to go back.
"And as far as we know Harry was perfectly happy there before she came along."
I'm not convinced he was all that happy. I don't think a truly happy person would have been such easy prey for Markle. There were also rumours that he used to turn up at Will and Kate's home drunk and they didn't want him around their kids. Remember that we only saw carefully controlled snapshots of his life - it's easy to appear 'happy' when you're only seen being grovelled over maybe once a week. And royal PR had done a very good job of turning around his image - from drunken naked games in Las Vegas to the jolly, fun loving prince. Who knows how much relationship this bore to reality?
"Oh why couldn't he have married a straightforward woman who loved babies and labradors and was happy having all his old (now lost) friends over for Sunday lunch?"
Because why would such a woman want to lumber herself with an emotionally and intellectually stunted man-child? Look at Cressida. She played a blinder - dated Harry for long enough to get her name out there, and then turned around and got engaged to another Harry: the same handsome, rich aristocrat she'd been dating before her liason with Prince Dimwit. No fool, that girl!
I also do not think grades in school denote intelligence. Have known plenty of people who were poor students, or who never went to college at all, yet who did extremely well in life. I was a straight-A student all through school and university only because I could write an essay and had a knack for multiple-choice questions. Yet I am certain that many people on this blog are smarter than me. As everyone knows there are many kinds of intelligence. I can’t blanket say that Harry has none of them. Whatever insanity he is in seems like addiction to me. And I feel angry at him for it.
Finally I think his grades could very well be due to learning disabilities and depression similar to James Middleton, who describes his struggles so beautifully in this article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/exclusive-james-middleton-engagement-battling-depression-finding/
I couldn’t help but wonder if the article was James’ and Kate’s way of telegraphing to Harry.
"I also do not think grades in school denote intelligence."
They're not the only measure of intelligence, certainly. However, when you've had the very best educational resources available to you - including alleged 'help' in your exams - and STILL only barely scrape 2 A levels, it doesn't look good. Mind you, despite similar advantages, none of the royals are known for their intellect.
His mother also was a bit of a dunce at school. Her only 'academic' achievement was the award for 'best kept hamster' and she supposedly told a girl that she was 'thick as a brick'. However, Diana was astute. She would have seen right through Markle, I'm convinced of that. Harry lacks even her emotional intelligence. He's a wreck.
'An irreparably changed relationship' for princes
"The BBC has repeatedly asked to speak to the couple's communications secretary, Sara Latham, but has had no response.
A friend of Ms Latham told the BBC that the comments defending Harry and Meghan, and criticising the Palace, did not come from her."
Real bullying is not something people can avoid. That is what is so damaging. Young kids must go to school, people must go to work, etc. I get extremely triggered when people cheapened real trauma by the overuse of words.
A levels are the final exams done when one is finishing secondary school - most students do 3 or 4. I'm not sure what the American equivalent is. Harry got a D in Geography and a B in Art. The latter was the subject of a minor scandal in 2005 because his teacher claimed that she helped him to pass the exam by basically doing a project for him. She later won her case for unfair dismissal from Eton.
"Former teachers of Prince Harry at Eton College helped him cheat in his A-level art course because he was such a weak student, a tribunal was told yesterday.
One teacher allegedly prepared explanatory text to go with images produced by Harry while a second helped the prince insert the lines into a project.
The head of art at Eton also allegedly completed work for Harry which was later published in newspapers around the world.
As the prince began army officer training at Sandhurst yesterday, one of his former teachers, Sarah Forsyth, was claiming that his art exam result, which helped him get into the elite college, was flawed.
Ms Forsyth told an employment tribunal, where she is claiming unfair dismissal, that the evening before a moderator was due at the school to look at the students' AS-level work - which counts towards their A-level grade - she was asked by the head of art, Ian Burke, to prepare text to go with some of Harry's work for his Expressive Project, in which a pupil is required to explain some of his work and relate it to that of great artists.
Ms Forsyth said she was "profoundly shocked", adding: "I was concerned that this was unethical and probably constituted cheating."
She told the tribunal at Reading, Berkshire: "I assumed I had been asked to do this because Prince Harry was a weak student."
Ms Forsyth, 30, said Harry's failings as a student were well known at Eton and she had been told that a teacher who marked Harry's entrance exam had been "desperate" to find points for which he could award marks."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004
Of course the fact that she supposedly thought it too boastful to be on Vogue's cover has not been forgotten by the masses. How many times can you turn 360 degrees in 48 hours?
I’d point out that Diana also had early trauma when her Mom ran off. It’s hard to be motivated to study when you are depressed. What happened to Prince Philip’s genes? He’s known to be highly intelligent. Where did they go? We must send out a search and reacue party.
I can help here!
A levels are the exams you take at age 18 in England, you would normally take 3 or 4 - I took 4. Graded A* to E. He dropped his third subject at the end of the first year, which normally denotes that he failed that subject and his school wouldn't let him continue.
When Harry took them, they included coursework, plus 1 or 2 exams in each year of study (Year 12 and Year 13). His Art teacher was accused of doing his Art work for him (He got a B). He got a D in Geography, which includes a massive field study/coursework, plus exams with pre-prepared case studies.
These are poor results, even if he was at a failing school. He was at £30k a year Eton, where they specialise in getting averagely intelligent kids from very wealthy backgrounds through to top universities.