Whatever Meg learned from her time in Canada, it did not include wearing socks.
She stepped out of her Royal vehicle at Canada House today wearing velvet (velvet being a winter fabric) shoes, a long satin skirt (satin is also generally a winter fabric), and improbably bare legs.
London weather for January 7: 51 degrees Farenheit, 11 degrees Celsius. Check out how the people in the background are dressed.
Meg's 7+ weeks off - counting from her last official appearance on Rememberance Day, November 17 - have left her looking much the same as she did when she left.
Her hair (or wig) is still unstyled and her coat too short for the dress and rather wrinkled. (Wouldn't it be an idea to slip on the coat just moments before exiting the car, to avoid having long horizontal folds across the back of a garment you know you will be photographed?)
When she emerged from the engagement, there were visible sweat stains on the armpit area of her brown turtleneck sweater, and ill-fitting undergarments were visible in the camera flash.
Besides appearing to be in a cheerful (perhaps hyper) mood, Meg showed no signs of an extended sojourn in Canada.
While I am not intimately acquainted with the habits of hikers on Victoria Island, I believe those habits include wearing socks.
She stepped out of her Royal vehicle at Canada House today wearing velvet (velvet being a winter fabric) shoes, a long satin skirt (satin is also generally a winter fabric), and improbably bare legs.
London weather for January 7: 51 degrees Farenheit, 11 degrees Celsius. Check out how the people in the background are dressed.
Meg's 7+ weeks off - counting from her last official appearance on Rememberance Day, November 17 - have left her looking much the same as she did when she left.
Her hair (or wig) is still unstyled and her coat too short for the dress and rather wrinkled. (Wouldn't it be an idea to slip on the coat just moments before exiting the car, to avoid having long horizontal folds across the back of a garment you know you will be photographed?)
When she emerged from the engagement, there were visible sweat stains on the armpit area of her brown turtleneck sweater, and ill-fitting undergarments were visible in the camera flash.
Besides appearing to be in a cheerful (perhaps hyper) mood, Meg showed no signs of an extended sojourn in Canada.
While I am not intimately acquainted with the habits of hikers on Victoria Island, I believe those habits include wearing socks.
Harry looks thin
Prince Harry, meanwhile, looks terribly thin. Perhaps he did not enjoy Canadian cuisine, or whatever else was available on the estate of the oligarch where they supposedly spent several weeks. Or perhaps some other enjoyment is making him thin.
Harry does look a little better than the last time we saw him - he's standing up straight instead of wobbling, and his trousers are not covered with mysterious stains.
The explanation for their visit to Canada House, to "thank the High Commissioner" for hosting them for their break in Canada, is a little shaky. Perhaps the Royal Family PR team did not provide them with any official events and this was the best they could do on their own.
They also reportedly stopped by the Hubb Kitchen beforehand. The Hubb ladies seem to be part of the dwindling portion of the British population that still likes the Sussexes.
What do you think about the Sussexes' reappearance?
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https://twitter.com/JonnyDymond/status/1215004349346308096
That’s likely why Meghan was so intent on finding a famous (which is code for ”also wealthy’) English man.
Harry probably has no money management skills and both of Meghan’s parents have declared bankruptcies, so there’s probably not a lot of money management skills that were passed to Meghan either.
Also, and this is the biggie, narcissists are extreme spenders who spend other peoples money, not their own. I think her grandiose taste will far outpace any income they bring in. Narcs usually bleed their victims dry, leaving them deeply in debt and in a financial shambles before blaming the victim for their money problems and then leaving the victim holding the bag as they seek out their next target.
It will be interesting to see how many people will give to their foundation when the donors know that Harry and Meghan are both classified as ‘persona non grata’ in the REAL royal family. Giving to H&M won’t get donors an invite to a garden party with HM, PC, the Cambridges, or the guy who washes the fleet of royal cars. They might be able to merch t-shirts and all the other things they’ve copyrighted, but it will take a LOT of sales and deals to get the kind of money Meghan wants.
Their plan is to be fully independent "royals", to have their own orbit apart from the palace. And don't worry; they are still referring to themselves as "Their Royal Highnesses" ad nauseum.
I can't see how the British public are going to be too fond of that idea, let alone Charles and William.
This is gonna be interesting.
Palace said to be `disappointed', few ideas how they are going to drum up cash on their own (Hm. I bet she can think of a few ideas.
Plant to `split' their time between N America & UK. Haven't checked it out with those who might be expected to have to pay for their travel costs, security etc.
Doesn't look a good business plan to me. No cash flow forecast in sight.
Couldn't run a whelk stall with credentials like that.
He's fully on board with this.
(Skippy is still in denial).
For this kind of lufe Meghan does not need the Royal Family for this kind of life. She is friends with Oprah, Clinton,Trudau, Amal Clooney, Ellen. She has her title and she has Dianas son, prince Harry. All thats missing is a blog were she can show us her wonderful life. And now she can open her blog again. Win win win. Well played.
( I can only hope there will be a divorce and someone removes her title )
American citizens can hold titles. After all, Meghan does now. Wallis Simpson did too as @Liver Bird pointed out.. Many Americans have been knighted (or the female equivalent.) Here is some info:
https://m.irontontribune.com/2009/02/28/can-american-citizens-hold-royal-titles/
*Naturalized* citizens do have to give up their titles as part of that process. I think that's what you're describing with your mom. But no matter what they do, I doubt there are plans for Harry to become an American citizen.
I don't think there will be any stripping of titles because that would raise the question of why Andrew remains Duke of York. HRH belongs to both Harry and Andrew for life, at least IMO. I wouldn't think the dukedoms necessarily do, but removing only Harry's won't fly.
They were already US Citizens before becoming Royals but every single of one of those examples did not return to live in the US. If memory serves, Wallis lived in France and Grace lived in Monaco. Had they returned to the US, they would not be able to continue using their titles in the US or retained their citizenship, but only if they met certain criteria:
Title of Nobility Clause, Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution:
"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.[1]"
Markle is still a US Citizen as far as I know and s still subject to our taxes. The question becomes whether or not she committed any crimes (ie tax evasion or fraud) through her "charities." Does she meet the criteria outlined above? No idea. Is it enough to revoke her citizenship? No idea. But I do have questions about her Sussex Foundation and branding and how that will play into this if she still wants to keep her title.
But a foreign person trying to gain entry into the US, such as Prince Harry - if he were to try and become a US Citizen for any reason - he would absolutely have to renounce his title as my mum did to become a citizen (she is a Brit). This information can be confirmed via the "Naturalization Oath of Allegiance" via the US Citizenship and Immigration Services site.
Hope that clears things up. :) I really don't want to go 'round and 'round on this as it's all speculation and rumor. It's my understanding that the Queen has the right to revoke titles - would she? No idea. Harry is still her grandchild. But it's my understanding that she has the ability to grant the HRH title and remove it. I'll leave it at as that is what my mum told me as we were talking about this earlier today.
Now we know what they spent the last seven weeks working on.
Wow - What a way to treat your husband's granny, Meggsy. You know, the kind lady who paid for your wedding, Frogmore Cott, et al. Wow - I just really have no other words for the disrespect.
That woman is a human wrecking ball with no respect for anyone! She is trying to make this go her way all the way. Sounds to me like, if you want me to go, it will be on my terms and I will take control of everything.
Did everyone note the snarky passive aggressive comment about modernizing in her statement?
Perhaps but that isn't what you said. You said Americans can't hold foreign titles, when they in fact can.
" It's my understanding that the Queen has the right to revoke titles - would she?"
She does not have that right. It takes an Act of Parliament to revoke a royal title.
BBC's Royal Correspondent Jonny Dymond said on Twitter: 'BBC Understands that no other member of the Royal Family was consulted before Harry and Meghan issued their personal statement tonight, the Palace is understood to be "disappointed".'
I commented earlier that if she was indeed not wearing her wedding rings this morning that perhaps she was angry about the outcome of meetings with Her Maj and Charles, and that she was sending a message to Harry and to the BRF that she was prepared to bolt. I think that she put Harry's back to the wall and made him choose. Being the silly, besotted fool that he is, his choice was predictable. This won't last because I don't think that MM will ever be satisfied. Harry will be back in the family within the year, I predict.
Anyone can 'look happy' with their cute kid in a single photo. Let's see how happy he looks when his wife is off galivanting with her celeb 'friends' and he's thousands of miles from anyone who gieves a damm about him.
I did provide information on how she could be unable to retain her citizenship but I highly doubt that would happen unless it was something specifically egregious.
This is an interesting turn of events. Popcorn, anybody?
*a case of the red a**. For those of you not conversant with American slang, it means she's spittin' mad.
I do think H +M informed everyone this morning and they were scrambling. Dan Wooton knew 24 hours ago so people were leaking it yesterday.
I do obviously believe the Sussex did not consult anyone and dropped it this morning to PTB.
I’ve seen that too on two different UK publications. He’s titled as Master and nothing more, no idea where or how Prince suddenly comes from!
On another note, I agree with commenters here, that they were booted and asked to leave the Royal fold. The 6 week break announcement was so soon after the SA tour and immediately after that oh woe is me documentary.
From the Daily Mail yesterday:
"Harry said later about their chat with Ms Charette: 'There's a hell of a lot of work to be done and things to be talked through but a very useful conversation""
It looks as though the conversation was a "go" for them.
It says, "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex take great pride in their work and are committed to continuing their charitable endeavours as well as establishing new ones. In addition, they value the ability to earn a professional income, which in the current structure they are prohibited from doing. For this reason they have made the choice to become members of the Royal Family with financial independence."
The Sun is reporting that none of the RF was informed before the 'bombshell' announcement, and that HM The Queen is 'disappointed'. Also, BP has told the Sun that discussions with the couple will be 'complicated'.
It's clear that she had a long-term plan to ditch the UK and all the boring royal responsibilities, so she can return to the USA and live it up there as a 'somebody'.
But I feel the sudden announcement, and not telling the RF beforehand, smacks of an impulsive and angry gesture, and may be in response to all the sweaty armpits plastered all over the newspapers yesterday. The one thing those pictures showed, is that the media does not respect her, will not cover up her failures, and takes pleasure is giving her the come-uppance she deserves. They humiliated her, and she knows it.
I feel discussions about her exit had been well underway with the RF over the past 6 weeks, but she has pulled the pin out of the hand grenade early.
In any event, it truly is Megxit, and what a wonderful New Year's gift to us all.
The Sussexes have put it on their website/IG ... all the terms. They keep the RPOs, Frogmore and the funding from the Duchy of Cornwall (95% of their funding) but give up funding from the Sovereign Grant (5% of their funding, estimated at about 2 million) and will keep office staff at BP. They are going to control media access to them, only do royal engagements that suit them ...
I am gobsmacked that they are showing such disrespect.
Archie will go to school one day, so how is this splitting time between North America (she still hasn't pinned down if it will be Canada or USA) and the UK?
Everything with Megsy ends up being so messy!
What are you going on about '2 houses'?
They don't have any houses. Frogmore belongs to the queen. I don't believe they own any other property. And even if they do, so what? Is it some sort of goal in life to have 2 houses?
The palace has said that the details have yet to be agreed so for all we know they could end up with no houses.
Re: Duke and Duchess of Sussex: Press Articles & Random Chat 2020 Today at 08:40:24 pm
On Harry's 30th birthday he inherited his half share of Diana's estate which was at least 10 million pounds if not more. I seen the figure as high as 20 million. He is now only 35. What has he spent that much money on that he isn't 'financially independent now?'
Interesting so he has no money of his own now???
Couldn't run a whelk stall with credentials like that.
Well, nobody has ever accused her of having an excess of business acumen or even ordinary common sense (which, come to think of it, seems to be increasingly rare).
We don’t know yet.
I've put up a new open post to discuss the big announcement.
So nothing is finalised, they might not end up with what they want.
It also says (!) "Frogmore Cottage will continue to be the property of Her Majesty the Queen. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to use Frogmore Cottage – with the permission of Her Majesty The Queen – as their official residence as they continue to support the Monarchy, and so that their family will always have a place to call home in the United Kingdom."
I wonder if the Queen will give her permission now?!
Well, if they want to be independent, I hope the RF cuts them off immediately. They shouldn't be able to play both sides.
Harry has his money but most of it in Trusts. Charles is paying for most of their expenses now and I wonder what he will think when they start all sorts of dubious business projects.
>>>Pictures of her on Twitter today not wearing any wedding rings<<<
Maybe they already had to pawn her rings to get a McDonald's meal or two or formula for little Archie. So sad. I'm glad!
When HM goes to the length of expressing 'disappointment', one can assume she is spitting mad. I wonder what a petite 93-year-old lady looks like in a rage? Does she ever use a bad word?
>>>Also, BP has told the Sun that discussions with the couple will be 'complicated'.
I bet.
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If Meg released this statement without a go-ahead from BP, they should go ahead and give her the Separation she is asking for. Sans the funding part.
Really, these two are too much aggravation for the value they bring. Cut them loose.
I thought Frog Cott belongs to "The Crown" not personally to the Queen.
If this is considered being banished from the RF, please, banish me as well. I particularly take exception to the RPOs. They should fund their own security, like all other "celebrities", not do a few events in the UK so as to justify the expense year-round. Or maybe just become like Beatrice and Eugenie or the Swedish Princess Madeleine, who are actual royals and act like actual royals yet have actual jobs.
Not surprising that they seem to have yet again blindsided the Royal Family. Meghan wants to be an international figure and claims to have studied international relations, yet hasn't figured out diplomacy or how to give a nod to cultural differences.
And Meghan is bringing Dianas son, Prince Harry.
I personally dont understand why people donate money to a foundation were a lot of the money goes to the owner of the foundation. But it works for Hillary Clinton.
I am grateful they are stepping down.
I could only scan DM headlines but i dont think all their conditions/demands/desires will be met. As with tiaragate, Meghan will get what the Queen gives. Oh, and H too.
Get some books ghostwritten, go on tour, try a booking agency--public speaking tours...
They will be some kind of royal freak show like the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, who got coverage because of who he used to be....they will try to maximize of course....
Did we get what we wanted? What do you say, Nutty? Did we win? Depends on who winds paying, i guess
Small wonder that Harry looks like he's waiting for the Sword of Damocles to drop on his head all the time. No wonder he looks so sad, angry, unwashed, uncaring and pathetic. So now Harry must feel like he's been exiled to Canada. This is NOT going to go well for him. He's barely holding it together as it is. He requires a steady, familiar and structured routine and being so far from his friends and stomping grounds is going to make him eventually lose it. Nice going Megs. You've succeeded in gaslighting and isolating your prey. She knows full well what she's doing but she's such a bunny boiler whack job she has convinced herself that she's always right and the world is wrong no matter who she blows up in the process.
This is just flat out disrespectful. I feel sorry for the Queen.
https://twitter.com/entylawyer/status/1215026544222994434
You were wrong on so many accounts. fundamentally saying the Harkles was trying to be such good members of the BRF, how hard they were working, that they were doing the best they could, yada yada yada...gaslighting just like Megs did. It was people who disagreed with who got the brunt of your abuse and they were right including me! From now on your credibility is zilch!