Whatever Meg learned from her time in Canada, it did not include wearing socks.
She stepped out of her Royal vehicle at Canada House today wearing velvet (velvet being a winter fabric) shoes, a long satin skirt (satin is also generally a winter fabric), and improbably bare legs.
London weather for January 7: 51 degrees Farenheit, 11 degrees Celsius. Check out how the people in the background are dressed.
Meg's 7+ weeks off - counting from her last official appearance on Rememberance Day, November 17 - have left her looking much the same as she did when she left.
Her hair (or wig) is still unstyled and her coat too short for the dress and rather wrinkled. (Wouldn't it be an idea to slip on the coat just moments before exiting the car, to avoid having long horizontal folds across the back of a garment you know you will be photographed?)
When she emerged from the engagement, there were visible sweat stains on the armpit area of her brown turtleneck sweater, and ill-fitting undergarments were visible in the camera flash.
Besides appearing to be in a cheerful (perhaps hyper) mood, Meg showed no signs of an extended sojourn in Canada.
While I am not intimately acquainted with the habits of hikers on Victoria Island, I believe those habits include wearing socks.
She stepped out of her Royal vehicle at Canada House today wearing velvet (velvet being a winter fabric) shoes, a long satin skirt (satin is also generally a winter fabric), and improbably bare legs.
London weather for January 7: 51 degrees Farenheit, 11 degrees Celsius. Check out how the people in the background are dressed.
Meg's 7+ weeks off - counting from her last official appearance on Rememberance Day, November 17 - have left her looking much the same as she did when she left.
Her hair (or wig) is still unstyled and her coat too short for the dress and rather wrinkled. (Wouldn't it be an idea to slip on the coat just moments before exiting the car, to avoid having long horizontal folds across the back of a garment you know you will be photographed?)
When she emerged from the engagement, there were visible sweat stains on the armpit area of her brown turtleneck sweater, and ill-fitting undergarments were visible in the camera flash.
Besides appearing to be in a cheerful (perhaps hyper) mood, Meg showed no signs of an extended sojourn in Canada.
While I am not intimately acquainted with the habits of hikers on Victoria Island, I believe those habits include wearing socks.
Harry looks thin
Prince Harry, meanwhile, looks terribly thin. Perhaps he did not enjoy Canadian cuisine, or whatever else was available on the estate of the oligarch where they supposedly spent several weeks. Or perhaps some other enjoyment is making him thin.
Harry does look a little better than the last time we saw him - he's standing up straight instead of wobbling, and his trousers are not covered with mysterious stains.
The explanation for their visit to Canada House, to "thank the High Commissioner" for hosting them for their break in Canada, is a little shaky. Perhaps the Royal Family PR team did not provide them with any official events and this was the best they could do on their own.
They also reportedly stopped by the Hubb Kitchen beforehand. The Hubb ladies seem to be part of the dwindling portion of the British population that still likes the Sussexes.
What do you think about the Sussexes' reappearance?
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Her hair was a mess and her outfit was terrible!
How on earth could she not know?
They have RPOs with them and are in range rovers, so I assume this means they are still in the RF.
You can't be serious?
She looks dreadful. Scraggy hair, no tights, too much bronzer, crumpled... and that sweat!
What a disgrace!
Either the Government of Canada was more involved than Trudeau let on, or they are working the Canadians for some kind of Canadian gig.... a Royal visit or perhaps looking to replace Uncle Andrew as trade envoy. The latter would allow the Smirkles to travel back and forth to Canada and other countries, all expenses paid.
I suspect a little of both. Given Trudeau's close relationship to the Smirkles via the Mulroneys and meeting at Invictus (and photo booth pictures of Trudeau's wife, Smirkle and Jessica Muloney), the government of Canada was, no doubt, involved in travel and security.
And now the Smirkles are milking the Canadian angle in order to get themselves out of the UK, at taxpayer expense.
Not sure why her hair was all tattered at the ends. She needs a haircut and some smoothing cream and someone to either straighten it or curl it but not this in between look she has going on.
I guess she learned nothing over the break on how to present herself.
Harry looked thin. At least his suit looked new and clean!
A thank you visit for a private visit made public to appear like an official visit. Did you get all that?
And why the emphasis on Grenfell first? Another unofficial, but official visit?
The fact is - they are not on the court calendar at this point.
And can someone please explain to me the rumors fling around about MM not being able to cross the border? what border? Canada? Or did she try to enter the US? If I read properly - the family was in Canada for the 6 weeks.
She really does look like Caitlyn Jenner with that wig.
If not, maybe something is up with their official roles, or maybe since this isn’t an official visit (because everyone is horrified that they are visiting for a private vacation) maybe it won’t be listed anyway. IDK. 🤷🏼♀️
Harry looks he's lost 20 lbs he didn't need to lose and in many of the DM photos, he doesn't look happy. Meghan's makeup is on so thick it looks like it's about to slide off her face. I just don't understand why she thinks that's a good look. And a wrinkled satin skirt? For daytime in January? Ugh. And a ragged wig/extensions with the majority of photos showing her with her hand in her hair? Really? How come her hair looked healthy on Suits and how did she manage to keep her hands out of it then?
I'm harsh because she should know better by now, it's going on 2 years.
And in light of the visit to Canada House today, it is obvious that the Canadian government was involved in their visit to Canada.
Last night and this morning I actually prayed hard that none of the British media would condescend to cover this asinine exercise in ego puffery, but alas! My prayers were not answered. Of course Meg is smiling big . . it's the first time she's had crowds and cops and barricades and cameras all assembled for Herself in what, 8 weeks?
The Dumbartons return from their all-too-brief sojourn out of our sight none the wiser, it appears. Harry wore his blue suit and looked more pulled together than we've seen him looking of late, but this man is a like a wraith, a shadow of his former self. During his soldiering days, Haz was robust, and though he thinned down a bit after leaving active service, he was still a healthy size. His frame is naturally more slim than William's, but he nearly appears frail these days. The hair loss since the wedding is alarming, also.
Meg once again is both over- and underdressed for the occasion. The dress and shoes are an rich color but both look too dressy for a morning visit to an embassy. This color palette is not at all flattering to her, and I might have thought she'd have gotten a clue after a very similar brown ensemble for the Christmas walk in 2017. No poop hat today, but the wig is matted, flat, and separating in rat tails down her back. Rachel, Rachel, merching again. The too-short, too pale coat is flapping open so we can (sort of) see the dress underneath, and I see a tacky gold ring and a trinkety charm bracelet similiar to one I had when I was 10, possibly from Avon. I'm sure hers cost a lot more, but the visual effect is the same. She has her 'Merching Pose' on, with her bracelet wearing hand held unnaturally near her face so the trinket is photographed.
So, back to business as usual, then. The face of Meg's RPO behind her says it all.
Perhaps the Grenfell visit first was their way of saying "We're back, and we're doing what we want."
Nice of them to thank the Canadians for their hospitality. When will they thank the palace for the 6 week break? From not exactly strenuous work?
My very chic 5th Ave auntie told me " a woman over 25 with long hair better be a good actress" Well.....
MM could claim as a new mother she needed an easier style....Every time I see her, I envision baby Archie yanking off her wig/extensions. Babies love to pull earrings and long hair -learned that the hard way.
It could be a visible and symbolic change! And a relief for those of us tired of her ratty wigs!
Her hair is again 5 inches shorter on one side than the other, how strange, guess she only has enough money for "Half a Himalayan Yak Wig" (her left side). Since it is a dead animal hair, it doesn't shine and fall gracefully, after all yaks don't do beauty routines on their hair (neither does Meghan).
The coat length is such a common faux pas it is laughable. Even a commoner would know to have the coat longer (guess he ]r lack of funds make her buy coats by the inch instead of yards.
Pregnancy glow...how does that happen when you only can manage a birth by a surrogate. No amount of hormones will make that overused female parts workable again. She should of thought of that when she was yatching and casting couch surfing.
"Today's visit comes less than 24 hours after it was announced by Buckingham Palace. It is unheard of for a royal to undertake a Court Circular-documented engagement to thank a country that wasn't officially 'hosting' them. The trip was classed as private and no official engagements took place. But Harry and Meghan have always made clear they like to cast aside convention and do what is least expected."
Don't they just!!
is barely perceptible in the outer canthi and smooth as a plank above the cheekbones. Even a child will show wrinkling in those spots; and then their elastic young skin snaps right back into place when relaxed.
I would also argue her bronzer is more toned down than usual because the contrast would be too stark i light of her pale legs and hands. I also think her fillers have finally settled into a more natural state.
You are good with the shade yourself!
Let's all have a good day.
Leave me alone you troll. I and others have mentioned her yachting here. Get your big boy/girl pants on and act civil. I am telling Nutty you are bothering me again.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1225119/meghan-markle-news-pictures-prince-harry-return-uk-canada-house-royal-news
I concur totally that Meg's status as 'global fashion icon' is quizzical since the woman can't seem to dress herself. Whatever list put her on the 'Top 10 Best Dressed Women in the World', I'd like to know who and how much Meg paid for that (dubious) honor. How drunk would an entire panel of fashion editors have to be to put her on any Best Dressed list? Maybe 'Best Dressed' if the venue is a Halloween pet costume parade?
Harper's Bazaar used to be synonymous with cutting-edge fashion of the type the Duchess of Windsor or Hollywood icons favored. Now HB has got to stand for 'Her Bitch'.
"Meghan was absolutely glowing while wearing a chic, monochromatic outfit complete with a deep cocoa turtleneck sweater, a matching brown, sleek midi slip skirt paired with a Stella McCartney camel wool coat, and satin, pointed-toe Jimmy Choo pumps. Prince Harry donned his signature navy blue suit, crisp white button up, and a light blue tie with black oxford shoes."
Elsewhere Meg is praised for her 'masterful use of color blocking' . . only the too-short camel coat is NOT color blocked with the rest of the outfit. HB helpfully provides all the buying details for that coat if anybody still wants it after seeing it on MM.
'monochromatic' is 'One color' Not, 'Two colors', but since the DoC is reinventing the English language along with the British monarchy, for the purposes of Meg-centric 'fashion' articles (oxymoronic statement though that be), 'monochrome' means "Whatever Meg is wearing in the pictures we are hired to gush over in our once-reputable magazine.'
Wow, first thoughts:
You guys are right! Those are a lot of sweat marks. And, I think the DM has published every one of them they were offered. (the mind wanders: gosh, and no photoshop ... would she have sued the DM had they taken that away from the photos instead of showing the whole and real her like the letter to her father)
The skirt is a little just at the edge of almost tight (look at the seams). I swear I see some VPL in one of them.
I thought the dress I saw in early photos of the prior trip was different. Didn't see much of it or many of them but I thought it might look nice.
I need to go back and look at what Tea Cup has said about the face.
If she had stuck with the satin skirt and silk shirt and maybe some leather buckle heels, then I can see it pulling together better. Maybe even a pair of cute heeled boots under her skirt?
THE HAIR!! Okay, I get it - as a curly/wavy haired girl myself, I understand the battle with frizz. But lordy, put some Olaplex on that. Even if it's synthetic, do SOMETHING. Some deep conditioner or hair oil! SOMETHING to nourish those dry locks. They are screaming for moisture and some TLC. I understand she might be wearing a weave or wig or extensions, and no shame there. But at least learn how to take care of your hair properly. Even fake hair and wigs can't take high-use heat products without damage. Why didn't she just pull it back into a low bun or chignon? Something smart and chic? Why does it ALWAYS have to be down??
As for the glow - it's amazing what a good bronzer and liquid highlighter will do. ;) Her make up is way too heavy and sits in patches on her face, particularly around her eyes and cheeks. Probably because her skin is too dry? I am 38 as well so I understand the struggle with skin at this age. It's not like it used to be, Megs. You have to tailor your makeup routine accordingly. I don't care if you rock YSL or Chanel or Bobbi Brown make up - it's not gonna sit on your skin the same way it did in your 20's and early 30's. Lay off the heavy layers.
Their foray into Canada house is just an excuse to be seen. Look at me me me. And it feels like a deliberate slap into face of the Brits - Canadians are lovely and you are all racists, we'll show you.
Every thing they do is wrong, badly thought, badly planned. They are unbelievable.
My very first thought was that Meg hasn't lost any weight during the break because her face looks very round when she's not cracking a smile that would be wide enough to split her face but for all the Botox.
Alcohol bloat? Or more work done? In any case, neither her skin nor hair looked clean today. I wonder what she smells like in person. I haven't seen the flop sweat other posters alluded to, unless . .is there a picture of her with coat off? I've only seen the outside ones.
Yeah, remember when Harry looked like he was going to sock that toddler who reached out to grab M's hair? Guess he thought the wig might be pulled off.
Also, pairing the bulkier knit sweater with a shiny satiny skirt just doesn’t work. Bad look.
As far as the PDA goes, I think the entire purpose of this visit, besides to get their faces in the media again, is to show them together holding hands, which is nothing new for them. I think it is performative PDA more than anything else.
that has got to be the fillers and / or botox.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7859867/Prince-Harry-Meghan-return-royal-duty-today-trip-Canadas-London-HQ.html
She's the only person in the world to believe that Meghan looks good today. Oh, sorry, I should say the second person, the other being Meghan herself. Oops, sorry again. I think they are one and the same.
I reckon they are angling for the GG spot in Canada for him.
sweating during early pregnancy: https://www.rexona.com/ph/sweat-zone/pregnancy-sweat.html
@ Fairy Crocodile - Once again we are of the same mind. If they were that gracious for their stay in Canada, why did they not thank Canadians while in CANADA? Why on UK soil?
I think your assumption that they did it solely for optics and attention are 100% accurate. :)
Harry: Are you sure you really want to do that?
Meghan: Sure Harry. It’ll be no sweat.
Hmmmm. Her soaked underarms give her away. It’s winter in the UK and she’s sweating like it’s the middle of August in Alabama.
Stella is going to be Markled like Jessica Meyer, I predict. Also in the line for Markling: PM Justin Trudeau & the staff of Canada House if it should ever come to light that the Harkles were never in Canada. I suppose they have plausible deniability. Though if the Harkles have actually been in Canada for the last six weeks, it is odd in the extreme that they waited to express any thanks to Canada or Canadians until after they returned home to London. If exposure was what they are after (and aren't they always?) why not visit an official building in Vancouver? Or a charity? Or Skype with PM Trudeau? We had zero collaboration that they were actually in Canada during their visit. A picture of Harry standing in front of a lake, but that's it. This fishy 'hiking/selfie' story. By making a big splashy visit to the Canadian embassy, H. and M. are manipulating reality again, I suspect. "Of course we were in Canada! We proved it by rolling up to Canada House to get our picture taken! Canada House is about 4000 miles away from where we stayed in Canada, but the fact that we're here means that we went to Canada!!"
Except that it doesn't, really. It means that Canada House staff are obliged to greet the Harkles and accept that they were in Canada on the Harkles' word alone. PM Trudeau was similarly obliged to believe them since he was in Ottawa working and couldn't drop by the oligarch's chalet in the woods for beer and pizza while Archie crawled around on the bearskin rug.
These two make so much noise about all their activities, I believe the authenticity of their actions to be in inverse proportion to the amount of noise they make. They arranged their very own 'Welcome Back from Canada, Your Highnesses!' reception (devoid of a peep from the Palace, seeing as theirs was not an official delegation. (You can say that again). Harry and Meghan are role-playing again. William and Kate take a lot of real vacations, and we never see them going or getting back, because their trips are *actual* as opposed to imaginary so they keep them on the QT.
Imaginary trips require a ticker tape parade and marching band and 2000 clicking shutters to convince folks they are real. My little theory.
Harry is grinning through clenched teeth in the photos in which he's smiling, in the others he looks as though he's in pain somewhere.
Meg's outfit looks incredibly cheap. Being so old, I'm not much into fashion these days, & follow Anna Wintour's advice & rewear my 30 year old Burberry coats, but wearing a coat that was shorter than my dress would mean I had to get somewhere in a hurry & that most of my wardrobe was at the drycleaners. Even in my impoverished student days, the synthetics Megs has on would have never touched my body. So looks like she's scrounging for the bucks, or the pounds, as the case may be. Sorry to make this about me, but I had a bit of a visceral reaction to the outfit.
All the stuff about Henry Vlll is fascinating. He was one bad, selfish dude, unfortunately his type keeps reoccurring in the human race, part of the reason a lot of countries have either done away with royalty or curtailed their powers enough to make them largely symbolic.
@Wild Boar, I can assure you that resentment of the BRF in the US is almost nonexistent in my experience. I think that the royals don't figure much in the American imagination, & when they do, they find them appealing & charming anachronisms. The socially insecure might enjoy or resent their snob appeal, depending on which way they roll. Any American who wants to do down the BRF for any reason is a nutter who should look to our own nation's issues. I think the RF as it's presently constituted in the UK (excluding Markle & Andrew, however), would probably be very popular & on firm ground in a country enjoying widespread prosperity & optimism about its future quality of life. Unfortunately, widespread prosperity & optimism have been in short supply in most of the developed world recently, & I think that Prince Charles is well aware of what happened to his cousins in Russia 100 yrs. ago. I think he'll do what he can to protect his family's future. JMO.
And yes, I think she is pregnant. Why don’t you accuse me of gaslighting you?
If they are so gracious to the Canadian people for not doing much of anything, why so nasty to the Brits who forked over 25 million for their ridiculous nuptials?
@Mischi:
Add to the list the expenses for the renovation of Fraudmore Cottage, the couture clothing, the security, the staff, the travel.
(The site is also merching face cream, but who would want to have skin like Smirkle?)
They are Mirrors & Smoke personified, she of course is Mirrors, which apparently she forgot to look into before she left for this PR stunt to again lie to the world that all is well in the house of Sucksit. Looks like he could use a little more of that funny Smoke so he can take advantage of the munchies because he does look painfully ill/thin, which sort of nixes the possibility of him being in rehab all this time, where people come out looking much more healthy, refreshed, and usually several pounds heavier.
This appearance is yet another failed attempt to pull wool over everyone's eyes, when regardless we can clearly see what's really going on. I still think HMTQ told us what's going on in her speech and that it was no accident she used both words 'moon' and 'bumpy' in it.
Mirrors is a hot mess and a major liability to The Crown now just like Andrew, but I think unfortunately Smoke's stuck with her for the time being, until HMTQ's 'small steps' can be deployed. Some royal circles are claiming the battle's over, she's been out-maneuvered, and now it's all just a matter of time before they can end the war permanently and exile her to her personal he11 forever and ever, where hopefully she will have only earned a small blurb in history as Mrs. Engleson.
I will comment on the full, shape-shifting face again (see previous thread), because I think she also wants to elicit pg
rumors, and I will seize on that so as not to fat shame her. I think women universally know that if there are figure issues they wish to mask, they shouldn’t put satin over them. And I think a large subset of them understand that is due not only to the sheen but also to the need to cut silk/satin on the bias. It’s unforgiving. So Meghan’s wearing it tells me she wants to highlight the curve that is indeed highlighted around her middle—I think she perpetually has curves in that area because it’s her shape, but I know she would not remove that rumpled coat and highlight it if she didn’t want the pg rumors started. Which is so interesting given Omid’s odd release yesterday.
She plays.
I die when I consider QE reviewing these photos. Just imagine the convo with the courtiers.
MAYBE IT'S THE HEAVY ASS CAMEL COAT SHE INSISTED ON WEARING? Have you ever worn a camel coat? They are heavy and it's far too mild in the UK for that kind of coat. Just my thoughts though having grown up in a temperate zone with similar weather and having been to the UK numerous times myself. It's in the 40's here today and I don't even have a jacket with me.
She can also be profusely sweating because maybe she's nervous. And maybe she has reason to be nervous? Hypohydration or excessive sweating is a known medical condition as well. Perhaps she has it? Stress and anxiety can increase adrenaline and cause you sweat more. I highly highly doubt she is preggers because, as a 38 year old myself who has been trying to conceive for 2 years now, it's not just that easy to get preggers at our age, no matter how god damn magical she wants to convey herself to be. Period.
I've always told my kids that fashion gets boring after a certain age, because almost very look there is gets recycled again & again.
The outfit looks cheap, but at least it's appropriate daywear, & not a ball gown worn during office hours, as she's been known to do.
The photo where Harry is pushing Meg's hand away is below all the DM photos of them leaving. They're getting out of the car. You have to scroll down. A barrel of laughs, these two.
I understand the conception struggle. After years of trying, 3 IUI’s and IVF, I had my son exactly one week after my 39th birthday. My reproductive endocrinologist could never pinpoint the reason I could not conceive naturally. I do have thyroid disease, but it was well-managed. I did end up in full menopause by the time I was 48, however. Best wishes to you.
I have always thought she should try wearing her hair natural, today is a major fail in that department too. (Thanks to this blog and commenters suggestions, even my own curly hair has improved and the frizz is at a minimum) It's possible, and she has the money (best product I found is $5) so why not give the extensions/wigs a rest?!
My brain is spinning looking at the outfit!! Has the money been cut off and this is all she could come up with?? Stella McCartney is not going to have a good year IMO.
>>>And how would one look like after spending 6 weeks in Canada?<<<
Better than this, I would hope. It's not like they were staying in a log cabin for 6 weeks where they had to chop their own firewood and there was no running water, and they rolled up directly from the airport . . or packet steamer, whatever transported them from the New World.
Megsie obviously thought she was doing 'Glam!' in this outfit that would have been appropriate to a New Year's Eve party at the Canadian PM's mansion. So why wear such dressy pieces but get the hemlines wrong, no stockings, pit stains and matted hair? Good style is all of a piece and begins with good hygiene. Meg reminds me of a Swedish exchange student that attended high school with my sisters for year. She liked to dress up and go out dancing in spangly numbers . . but in lieu of bathing or washing her hair more than once every couple of weeks, she'd just douse herself in Estee Lauder's Beautiful.
I think of the Swedes as very hygienic people, so this girl may have been an anomoly.
She gave her host parents tons of grief for staying out late with boys. She was very, very popular with the boys because she was exotic, and easy. They didn't care that she stank as long as she was willing to put out, and I sense the same aesthetic has gotten Megs where she is today as well.
Nutty has said I get to express my opinion here, and express it I will.
I don’t know what to say that some of you can’t control yourself about it or handle my opinion = not my problem.
Good luck with doing better on that.
Interesting photo composition of H and M looking in different directions for each other, car in the background. Look at how differently each face shows wrinkles.
And, did you'll see this nice piece about W&K?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7860151/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-new-look-Charles-Diana-royal-expert-claims.html
You still have time to keel trying and Meghan certainly is young enough to get pregnant.
I do have a soft spot for anyone having trouble. Good luck. 🍀
At any rate, I thin Archie looks like a blend of H and M so either she carried him or there was a surrogate and the entire BRF are supporting the situation,p.
“However, the royal diary doesn't have any details of further engagements for the Duke and Duchess in the next month. Buckingham Palace told Mail Online that Harry and Meghan will be undertaking more royal events in the coming weeks, but were unable to confirm what they will be.”
BUckingham Palace CONFIRMED they will be undertaking more ROYAL events. They are clearly still royals representing the Queen.
I sure that is disappointing to many here.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7859867/Prince-Harry-Meghan-return-royal-duty-today-trip-Canadas-London-HQ.html
I looked for my camel coat, & I seem to have tossed it, (I don't keep everything forever!), but I found a navy Jaeger coat I bought at the same time. It's still a lovely coat. Unfortunately I don't wear it very often because it's too heavy for me. Lots of handbags & winter stuff weigh too much for me now, so it's microfibers & small bags.
Good catch for those who commented on the small bulges on Megs' figure. I thought she just didn't care, like in the SA mosque, but fueling pregnancy rumors might be her goal. Maybe she still has hopes for one of the frozen embryos in Canada. For the record, if the Harkles had used IVF for valid medical reasons, (not to preserve Megs' looks, although that ship seems to have sailed), I would have had no problems with it. They even would have performed a service by highlighting fertility issues. It would be up to the RF as to how to deal with the 'of the body' issue, & Archie's place in the succession, not us plebs. It was the apparent subterfuge that I found appalling. I know that Hollywood actors use beards, surrogates, whatever to preserve the appearance of ordinary family life, but I think the RF should avoid misleading the public if possible. If Archie has Harry's DNA, I think the RF is stuck with him, & to some degree, Megs. I think they're trying to figure out how to ease her out with as little disruption to themselves as possible. Maybe they will send them on another tour of African countries. If the Harkles offend enough of the Commonwealth, perhaps the RF can avoid possible cries of 'racism' when they finally manage to get rid of her.
Harry looks haggard, still.
What a bizarre event, all the way around.
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See those shadows in your eyes
You could never hide
The thunder deep inside
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I'll always hold on
Knowin you'll miss me when I'm gone
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@Dallas Alice - thank you as well for your kind words and history <3 I am hopeful things will work out for us. :)
Without trying to be off topic, part of the reason the Megs and Archie thing gets under my skin so much is that, as someone who would literally give my arm for a child, here you have Megs and Harry with this beautiful baby boy and they seemingly behave as if they can't be bothered with him. There seems to be zero affection, zero maternal instinct, and her behavior and comments about him just demonstrate someone who has probably spent very little time with young children or her "own" child. If she carried Archie as she alleges, why isn't she bonded with him? When you carry a child you are acutely aware that you are carrying something precious. Every mum I know (be it family or friends) is very close to their children, especially their babies.
Her continued behavior, her choice of clothing, her hair styles (as someone pointed out earlier) with the long loose hair and jewelry, all speak of someone doesn't spend time with an infant or toddler, let alone their own child.
Hell, give Archie to me. I'll spoil him rotten and spam my Instagram and Facebook with all kinds of unedited pictures of him on the daily. ;)
I don’t see any Hubb Grenfell photos yet
I'd also like to thank @MustySyphone for saying what many of us here are probably thinking. Let's stop the sniping at each other and just talk bad about Smirkle Mirkle...
I don’t dislike what Meghan has on, it’s the skirt, it’s just too long with that coat. The sweat marks though are gross and a big no-no for a royal. Meghan’s definitely had filler work and Botox done. Her face looks firmer and fuller, though she doesn’t have the cushion cheeked chipmunk look quite yet.
Agree with other comments that they’ve gone rogue pulling this stunt. It was a private visit to Canada, if they wanted to thank whoever, a phono-call would have sufficed. This stunt was a big ‘look who’s back’, PR show for all and sundry to witness. If they don’t have any official public engagements lined up, could we be seeing more of this rogue behaviour?
Please, someone, anyone, send them away for good. I’m so sick of the sight of them, I can barely muster up the enthusiasm and time to comment about them.
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I would like to see more video of them with Archie so I can see their interactions with him.
I suspect he may have Strabismus which Lady Louise had. Some cases of it is generic and can run in families. In the photo with H and A, that eye is not really shown. Sophie and Edward IIRC were open about it with Louise and I think they also became involved in getting attention for the condition.
It’s just something I have wondered about Archie. Perhaps it’s is rude to speculate on such things about a baby. I certainly don’t think it’s a defect or makes him less than...
Meeg looks like she's either got coke/alcohol bloat and/or she enjoyed more than a few Nanaimo Bars while on Vancouver Island. Maybe all of the above. Not pregnant fat.
I’ve had the same feelings about the Dumbartons and their child. I’ve always gotten vibes from her that Archie is merely a new accessory to fiddle with until she gets bored. Quite sad.
The lyrics from that song are what I would expect a teenager to post and not a member of the Royal Family.
I've had enough of the pair of them.
My flabber is totally gasted!!
I've always disliked the heavy bronzer makeup and wigs. Her life would seem to be so much simpler without them. Apparently she thinks she would not be acceptable to be seen in public without them which I think is sad.
More close up pics of Harry do not seem to indicate that he is enjoying unmitigated marital bliss and wow, y'all were right, he is quite thin. Maybe she did vegan cooking during vacation. Maybe the food in rehab wasn't all that. The hand holding seems to be on her part.
Oh.My.God. She is sweating like crazy! She needs to go to the Falklands like Andrew!"
I began my teaching career in a selective London grammar school for boys. We had one West Indian, a (12-13yrs old in the entire school. He was a right pain in the anatomy. His mother gave me permission to hold his head under a lab tap if he gave me trouble – no very helpful as he was bigger than me. He once accused the Divinity master of racism:
`It’s not fair! You’re only picking on me ‘cos I’m black!’
`No, So-and-So. It’s because you’re a slob!’
You couldn’t get away with that these days.
Re dyslexia: the educational world in the 1980s couldn’t agree whether dyslexia existed or not, whether it was down to `minimal brain damage’ ie too minimal to detect, or just a middle class term for `inexplicably incapable of reading’. The Dyslexia Institute in Winchester was seen as a bit of a fraud by some .
The RF is certainly very conscious of the sad fate of their Romanov cousins.
It is possible to work with whatever God gave you (I am not blessed with thick hair), so why is she insisting on this trash false hair look? Wasn't she advised it is cheap and unclassy?
This woman is approaching forty and behaves as if she has never learned the basics of good taste.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7859867/Prince-Harry-Meghan-return-royal-duty-today-trip-Canadas-London-HQ.html
Of course Archie commented on Canada's scenery. Over 3 months ago he shared that he liked looking out the window in SA at the awesome scenery during his "feed times." (I'm not quite sure how that worked physically since we were supposed to think M was breastfeeding. Not understanding how the angle needed to see out the window could happen.)
But Archie certainly is a talkative infant.
Don't ask me what the article said. My blood-pressure can't take it.
The Daily Mail H&M treatment for today. I am sure was posted by other Nutties above. I like the Canadian Mounty in the red suit but he looks like an actor hired for the day. He is stuffed more than a stuffed animal/
It occurs to me this is something many women learn from their mothers, who learned it from their mothers. My daughter is 13 now and we are in that precarious age where she rightfully wants to choose all her own clothes and I have to subtly negotiate my input (nothing too tight, too short, no bare midriffs, neon is tacky, only one ear piercing per ear, no sparkly blue eyeshadow)....as I remember my mother doing for me. I still ask "did you brush your teeth? Did you remember deodorant?"
My guess is Megs did not have those daily lessons growing up, so these unwritten rules have never become second nature to her.
The hair I just don't understand. I guess she thinks it is sexy or youthful.
It just seems to me that if the BRF wanted her out, she would be out.
What does it say though, that so much Meghan coverage disables comments? I've never known censorship be so overt, in recent times.
I also note that Meghan is routinely referred to as the Duchess of Sussex, whereas Kate is still often referred to as Kate Middleton. Another example of preferential treatment in the media. I guess it is because we knew pre-marriage Kate for so long, but she's been the Duchess of Cambridge for nearly a decade. I mention this because Meghan complains so much about her treatment by the media, whereas much of the media treats her with kid gloves. It's the readers who can't bear her, and judging by Meghan's appearance today - worse than ever - this is not going to change. How dispiriting. A tiny, tiny part of me hoped Meghan would use the break to learn a few lessons and start again. Naive I know.
@Dallas Alice - yep! Makes you wonder about what their relationship with Archie really is. Neither of them seem overly familiar or comfortable holding him. Babies can be intimidating (I remember how awkward I was with my nephew) but after a few goes, you pick it up really quickly. Megs seemed just as awkward with him in Africa as she did at the Polo match. Very odd IMO.
@ Tatty - I am too. :) In response to your question about Archie's strabismus, now this is an interesting topic for me. I'm a bit of a genetics nerd and pathology was my passion at Uni. Strabismus can be caused by a few different factors but congenital strabismus normally occurs during forceps delivery via vaginal birth. It also normally resolves between 6 to 12 months of age.
Did Megs give birth vaginally or via c-section (or the surrogate for that matter)? That might explain the potential cause of congenitally acquired strabismus. The age of the mother can also play a factor, but the genetic link on Harry's side is something that piqued my interest for sure. I'll have to dig more but if it's a recessive gene, then both parents need to carry. Most often you see it in direct family which lends the impression that it might be a dominant gene that isn't carried without expression (ie showing up), unlike blue or green eyes, or blonde or red hair.
Genetics are funny. I see very little evidence that Archie has red hair at all as red heads are incapable of producing eumelanin or dark pigment. This would mean that his eyelashes and eyebrows would be fair. Baby Archie has some lovely dark eyelashes and defined eyebrows - nothing that a towhead or redhead baby would sport. Further, both parents need to carry the gene responsible for redhair for it to occur in a child.
Just more evidence, to me, that things aren't adding up as they try to convey.
Skippy’s theory depends on the treason excuse and the backer theory, neither of which make sense. Treason? For putting a baby who looks like Harry and Meghan in the line of succession? 7th in line? And the queen is in on it, but we need baby steps for the plan to play out? (meanwhile Andrew is the one making shady deals in the background and (speculation) funneling money through possibly illegal and possibly anti British business with middle eastern men? But forget all of that....)
The backer theory? Really? Backers to I guess destroy the monarchy? Why? Couldn’t they find a better actress to play the part? Act like Kate? Cause no trouble and infiltrate seamlessly into the family? Draw no attention to herself so she could do her job?
Skippy’s just mad Harry married Meghan. She is having a several years long pout.
I agree with much of what has been opined already by others, but I will add....can she STOP TOUCHING HIM! It is so very unprofessional and just pathetic.
Megs is just showing her love for H...no reason to shout.
Skippy’s just mad Harry married Meghan. She is having a several years long pout.
No, Skippy orginally welcomed Meghan into the BRF. It was after her many missteps that she commented on. Skippy is a staunch supporter of Harry, maybe too much so.
@musty given the queen basically sanctified Archie’s existence with her Christmas speech, I’m going to go ahead and assume it’s all cool with her. I’m personally not interested in wasting more of my time on Archie. Harry clearly loves Archie and I’m thrilled for Harry that he finally has a child of his own. As I mentioned before, I assume the queen knows who the doctor was who delivered Archie. Also, I have always read “of the body” as meaning born of the male heir, not actually coming out of the body of the heir’s wife. I did a tremendous amount of research on it months ago. I never really found an actual detailed description of it, other than it meaning within a legitimate marriage, the male line heir fathered the child.
Also there is the problem that Archie was born at Portland Hospital and Harry registered him 11 days later. So unless there is some high level illegal things going on, Archie is a legit English baby, son of Harry.
Anyway.... my final thoughts on that.
I attribute MM's sweat stains to her complete nervousness as she knows the scrutiny she is under from the BRF and the public. You reap what you sow honey.
I feel like this over most articles about The Sussex’s now, I either don’t read, or skim over.
Good to see you back, I didn’t have a chance to say thank you for your kind words on another post. ;o)
@KitKatKisses, great theory about learning manners. Doria was supposedly MIA during those years with MM, and I feel sorry for her in that aspect, because those are hard years for girls. Our bodies and moods are changing; clothes, make-up, boys become more important (in our minds,) and not having a mother or grandmother, aunt (whom ever) to guide you through this would seem tough for a pre-teen. I think her dad did the best he could, but he over compensated and we are watching the results. My grandmother was always on my mom about me plucking my eyebrows and wearing the correct bra! Mortifying at the time, but thank goodness for it!
With the coat off, it's just so much worse, I don't even know where to start. I can't recall if Meg has been known for a heavy sweat problem before . . she probably was spritzing on a warm(ish) day for the season in that heavy camel coat. The top was the worst possible choice on every level and I will just leave that there. The white bra faux pas is utterly without excuse--and for someone who supposedly lives for fashion. We know she owns a black bra because she's flashed it at Harry's mate's wedding. This could be another of her Carrie Bradshaw fantasies again where the point is to see her brassiere as a fashion accessory, but whatever it is, not a good look. Even if Meg's 'faux pas' are all intentional, the overall effect is that she must get dressed in the dark and never looks at herself in a full length mirror in daylight.
Just one of the many mysteries of Meghan: Why is a woman who is so obsessed with getting her picture taken seemingly content to do such a half-assed job at dressing to go out and be seen? Is she myopic and refuses vision correction? Or is her body dysmorphia so extreme that she looks at photos of herself and sees Cate Blanchett on the Oscar red carpet? Meg is like a walking version of 'Nailed It!' (NOT): Sartorial edition.
The skirt and shoes are very striking, on their own. You know who would rock this look (with another appropriate top and outerwear? . . .Beatrice. That is totally her color.
There are a few shots of Harry smiling but in 85% of these pictures he looks completely miserable/angry. So, not well-rested from a detox program in lovely rustic British Columbia, I'm guessing. Nowhere beachy either, because he's extremely pale.
What aggravates me beyond endurance is how sycophantic the worldwide media is for these nobodies. At least for today, for all intents and purposes, they are the only members of the Royal Family. Did anybody else in the Firm rate a picture today? Gawd. And look at the massive contingent of staff all dragged from their desks and other important work to pose on the staircase with these two delusional tw@ts like they are receiving the Queen and the Prince of Wales. What?? Why?? If they were newlyweds just back from an official tour of Canada, I might grasp it better, but there's been a lot of water under the bridge since Handbag and Murkle were newlyweds. If the Daily Mail had any dignity (not forgetting that Meg is currently litigious with its sister publication) it would decline to publish any fawning photos of the plaintiff with whom it is currently involved in a very expensive legal action. It's not like Meg is an elected official whom they are obliged to cover.
Meg is obviously Angelina Jolie in her own mind, but I wish that the media wouldn't feed her delusions by covering her every move like she and Haz were Brangelina at the Oscars. This is not helping Meg to gain any sense of proportion about her true stature in the Royal family or in the overall scheme of celebrity-hood. I am very disappointed that the self-absorbed antics of these two losers rate so much attention in major publications who should know better.
@Hikari - The Carrie Bradshaw allusion is rather apt and makes absolute sense given some of her more provocative fashion choices.
@Dallas Alice - I almost snorted my avocado at my desk reading your "WORKING SO HARD" = Schweaty Schweater bit. Nicely done. I'm still giggling about it.
There was a photo on Charlatan Duchess that showed her mid-stride with her satin skirts and the caption "are the butt-pads back?" (or something akin to it). I almost died. It truly looked like the buttpads made a comeback and as every woman knows, satin is extremely unforgiving. It will show EVERYTHING.
Maybe that's why she didn't wear any satin during Moongate? ;) I keed I keed.
I assume she has to wear extremely high heels at all times in the public because her legs are very short. Combined with waistless top of her body and short neck it would really look pretty bad without stilettos. She is what, 5 foot 2?
This is another reason why this sweater is a no for her, short square body and short neck do not warrant good wear for this design. I believe she has no advice on dressing at the moment.
Neither she appears to understand that bare legs in the flash will contrast strongly with her bronzed face, making her appear even more over made up than she is.
It is so sad to see this never ending list of disasters. "Best dressed woman" goodness me.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/harry-meghans-physical-touching-shows-21234297
>>>So what do you all think? Do you agree with Skippy that Harry is acting, that he is falling on his sword to protect his family, etc? Or do you think he is wholeheartedly in this marriage with her?<<<
Skippy's loyalty to Harry is touching, but is getting increasingly unhinged in light of zero facts to support her point of view. At first, I thought that she was his choice unreservedly and he was genuinely in love with her. I even watched the Hallmark movie that gave us a pretty soft-focus fantasia of Meg's version of events of their courtship and engagement.
After I got to know more about Meghan's climb to the ultimate in society families, and seeing/hearing her unravel her own fibs with her words and actions, I thought that Harry must have been heavily pressurized to put a ring on his erstwhile booty callee owing to blackmail on her part--she was pregnant and/or she threatened to out him as gay or engaged in criminal activity on a level with Uncle Andrew . . .or worse. I thought, what could be the absolute *worst* case scenario for Harry and his family? Not that he'd gotten one of his girlfriends preggers . . it's not like that hasn't happened before in his family. The family has already proven it can make compromising photos of drug paraphenalia and naked women disappear. The worst scenario I could devise is that that Harry was somehow involved in a sex game gone wrong, maybe in a threeway with Meg, and another girl (or boy) died. A Duchess title, the price of MM's silence. She and Markus A. are all tied up with Epstein & G. Maxwell and all the other toxic luminati of the sordid celebrity sex world.
The Family might accept her, however grudgingly, to avoid having one of their own implicated in a murder inquiry. Nothing else seems serious enough as an inducement to blackmail for them to be unable to paper it over.
All speculation on my part, of course. The alternative is that Haz insisted on marrying her in order to supercede his brother in the celebrity sweepstakes and to really stick it to his family. The more the decry her suitability, the harder he clings to her. Turns out that Meghan is not the only person in this marriage who rails against 'rules'.
I think something a bit more than her racial heritage is protecting Meg from the ultimate censure of being kicked to the curb. Not 'backers' in the sense that Skippy means backers--these 'backers' are not political . . but they are dirty, dirty, dirty, and Meg is their poster girl. This marriage was arranged, and Haz agreed to it. What Meg is getting, or thought she was getting out of it, we have seen. Harry remains the Dark Pale Horse in all of this. Perhaps he wishes for a time machine to go back to May 2016 so he could un-meet her and keep it that way. Or maybe he thinks he's got Dragon Blood and He's Winning!!!
Delusional, the pair of them.
We've all said this before, if she were in her 20s or even early 30s, I could understand, but she's not. Most women don't find there "fashion sense" until their 30s, when you learn to leave trends behind and focus on cut, fit, color, etc. DoC, Diana, heck even Eugenie are perfect examples of this. I don't mind the browns/neutrals, but fabric plays a big part of cohesion in an outfit....sigh, sometimes I just want to get my hands on her and say, "See, this is what looks good on you, and here's why....." She is not a lost cause physically, but I'm not sure she'll ever "get it" mentally if she hasn't by now.
Based on MM's antics today, Bea might want to announce sooner. Like, tonight, so she can get it in the morning editions.
If you're trying to conceive and you're in a very high stress job (like Megan alludes to on the constant), then that will affect one's ability to conceive/carry. I highly doubt a few quiet weeks were enough to reduce her cortisol levels but who knows, she does yoga, y'all. She squatted in heels while 6 months preggers in a magical folding belly. Who knows what she can do! *rolls eyes*
I think the buttpads are purely cosmetic due to her physique (as Kaye pointed out). She wore them in Africa as well, if memory serves.
These are the things that make me pause.
Based on its ineffectuality at absorbing pit sweat or disguising the color of her bra, it seems like that sweater was very thin. Her boobs wouldn't have been reflected back at us like headlights if it were thicker material, probably. I'm sure the sweater bunching around her middle is adding to the illusion, along with the shiny skirt, but if she wanted to avoid calling attention to a lumpy middle, she could have worn something in the black she usually favors. So I think it's purposefully provocative. Let's hope that Meg gestating Spawn #2 is like the special cake the Queen was lovingly preparing with her own hands for Meg's Special Balmoral Birthday Bash . . .a figment of Meg's imagination that will waft away on a cloud of "You are delusional, lady."
The world still hasn't gotten a handle on the Dumbartons' Firstborn, the Child known as Archie. A sibling would be catastrophic for us all.
FWO, I think that Harry & the RF have had it with Megs for some time, & would really like to ditch her. I think that they feel that they have to tread very carefully & consider all the optics, political, social, moral, etc. They're also dealing with someone who has shown herself to be completely without scruples, & who lawyered up even before the engagement. How can they trust her to abide by an NDA, when she's already been so untrustworthy? I've assumed that the royals have access to reasonably decent legal advice, if so, I hope they use it wisely.
BTW, was your avocado organic and ethically-sourced? ;)
Given her illustrious Hollywood career (pardon me while I laugh for a few minutes—ok), it is truly puzzling she seems to be completely clueless as to how to best dress in a flattering way. With all her friends and contacts in Canada, can’t she just get on the horn with the Suits stylists and get some tips. I keep thinking back to that horrid metallic dress she wore a few years ago. She must’ve picked it herself. I’ve purchased more flattering clothing for my dumpy, middle-aged ass at Target.
@Fairy Crocodile, there are lots of women of colour who have to deal with challenging hair yet manage to look really nice - Beyonce, Oprah, Michelle Obama, to name a few but there's no shortage of WOC who look like great with hair extensions/wigs/straightening, especially if you have the money to do so. For women who aren't so well off, it's more difficult, that I will have to admit.
January 7, 2020 at 11:45 AM
Don't know about Oprah but Beyoncé and MO are both known to wear wigs/weaves. And in Beyoncé's case 'her' hair looks pretty awful 9/10 times. Solange though, knows how to care for and rock her natural hair.
Athletic body does not come to mind regarding Megs, flabby paunch of a stomach and her skinny underdeveloped calf muscles along with never seeing her doing anything athletic (other than her words about yoga). She looks like a woman that does not take care of her body unless it is to pump botox and fillers into her plump face. Her sweat is not due to athletic activity but merely walking a few steps at a public appearance. How Harry could be attracted to such an out of shape dumpling is amazing when he had such pretty fit girlfriends before. Cressida and Chelsy were godesses compared to Megs.
Then there is her hair, it seems no one has seen her hair but wigs and extensions...maybe she doesn't even have any hair. Why can't she be like a proud WOC and wear her hair natural with the pretty curls she had as a young girl. No, she has to process it to appear something she is not. She is fake, fake, fake to the core in so many ways.
Then there are the fake teeth, which she fiddles with moving her 'flippers' in such an unladylike manner. Tongue sticking them out much like a ventriloquist dummy.
She can't even dress well with all the money in the world. Showing up today sweating like a pig. How does harry sit next to such a hot mess (maybe that is why he drinks and drugs). Oy vey!
Don't fault her for the sweat, I get warm very easily (even when temperatures are near freezing) and sweating cannot always be stopped. Well, unless you used botox which I'd never do as I don't feel comfortable injecting poison into my body, but she has it all over her face so why not use it in the armpits, too? Also, I learned in my early twenties at the latest which kind of fabrics/clothes worked for me, both for my body type and easy sweating. I saw some folks commenting on her not knowing how to dress herself - I think it's more a case of "that's a great piece of clothing, I must have it" and that she simply thinks it looks as great (if not better) on her as it did the model/rack. I'm sure there are many people, me included, who'll see someone wear an outfit and instantly love it, but know it would never work for them (and thus they don't buy/wear it themselves).
Guess Archie is back with the nanny they weren't going to employ...
You are a better person and I if Meg stirs you to pity for any reason. I’m sure she was and is very jealous of Harry’s exes, both of whom are younger taller blonder, From wealthy families and Harry’s social circle etc. I keep seeing Chelsy’s face At the wedding. She looked near tears. She’s the one that turned Harry down, more than once as I understand it, so I didn’t read her sad face as sellers remorse exactly… I saw someone who Shared nearly a decade with Harry And is still friendly with him as a woman watching her friend and ex-lover make the mistake of his life. It would’ve been a totally different wedding if Chelsy had been down front. I don’t blame her for refusing to marry him though. From what we have seen over these last two years, Chelsy made the right call.
If I feel pity for anyone in this debacle, it’s the Queen and William, the brother who is being continually stabbed in the back. He’s never going to get back their relationship from More uncomplicated pre-Meg days. Harry’s choices are negatively impacting the stress levels of his family.
I agree with an earlier comment that the visit to thank Canadians (ludicrous reason) was intended as a rebuke to the UK. Well they can repeat that as often as they like. They'll only find themselves slipping further and further down the BRF pole. If there's any further to slip that is. I suppose Prince Andrew will always be underneath to soften their landing.
I was really impressed by the sheer number of photos of Harry - not looking like he was about to have a traumatic flashback and how many in which she was clearly looking puffed up in the publicity of the event (and not keeping in touch with how he was feeling about all the flashes).
Also, just how many photos had her touching her hair. I think close to 50% or more. It's a hygiene thing (which might be weird): I don't want to be touched by someone who has just been touching their hair (especially if it could be a wig of unknown last cleaned date).
She wears really long skirts which never seem to be the right look in length. I read a nice fashion book which talks of you holding up a towel while looking at yourself in the mirror. You start with the towel almost to the floor and move it up. Eventually you will see two spots where your legs look good. That's the length you either need to buy or have altered.
Is she pregnant? I don't know. If she is, it isn't very far along at all but there was the comment by Scobie about their renewal to focus on things other than a #2 but I think that was retracted. But she does seem to like stirring the pot of questioning, doesn't she?
I'm not sure why she has a bulging stomach but I agree we are probably supposed to think she's pregnant.
But I am sure that skirt wasn't designed to have a sweater tucked into it. (The designer shows it fitting a model more loosely and paired it with a loose untucked "Hi-Lo" sweater.) And I am sure Meghan had the same bulging stomach in October when, animal lover that she is, she wore a red lambskin skirt with a sweater tucked in.
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I was having a squint at the photos and in one particular photo Hazzard seems to be very concerned with whomever he is looking at, and Megatron is looking in the same direction and there is fear there. Not sure why, but very odd.
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I do hope the RF get their skates on and show both of them the back door. They are a disgrace.
The Family might accept her, however grudgingly, to avoid having one of their own implicated in a murder inquiry. Nothing else seems serious enough as an inducement to blackmail for them to be unable to paper it over.
All speculation on my part, of course. The alternative is that Haz insisted on marrying her in order to supercede his brother in the celebrity sweepstakes and to really stick it to his family. The more the decry her suitability, the harder he clings to her. Turns out that Meghan is not the only person in this marriage who rails against 'rules'.
I think something a bit more than her racial heritage is protecting Meg from the ultimate censure of being kicked to the curb. Not 'backers' in the sense that Skippy means backers--these 'backers' are not political . . but they are dirty, dirty, dirty, and Meg is their poster girl. This marriage was arranged, and Haz agreed to it. What Meg is getting, or thought she was getting out of it, we have seen. Harry remains the Dark Pale Horse in all of this. Perhaps he wishes for a time machine to go back to May 2016 so he could un-meet her and keep it that way. Or maybe he thinks he's got Dragon Blood and He's Winning!!!
Delusional, the pair of them.
This is something that I've thought about (the reasons why) and, FWIW, I agree. I personally think that somebody has something on him. Maybe the gay rumors are true. Maybe he was involved in a drunken accident with a fatality that was covered up and somebody found out. Maybe somebody took the fall for drugs and it should have been him. Or conversely he could just be a jealous bitch that hates his grandparents, dad, and brother and sister in law for making him feel inadequate, but if he is/was, it didn't show up until she arrived.
I have just come from Skippy’s page to see what she had to say about today’s special going on. I wouldn’t say she’s crazy. I used the word unhinged In regards to this one particularly tenacious belief of hers about Harry’s role in his marriage. That was probably too pejorative and I retract it. Skippy is American, I believe. But you were unlikely to find a more intensely devoted royalist than she on the other side of the Atlantic. I understand that her feelings come from a warm regard for Harry and believing resolutely the best of him, even in the face of his increasingly quizzical behavior. As recently as October 2018 I was Also Sympathetic to Harry, Involved in this marriage which increasingly seemed to be Nothing like what he had signed up for. Now I am not so sure That he didn’t willingly sign up for whatever this is.
As is her wont, Skippy describes today’s events, and the many photos of Harry looking Completely fed up and miserable as “Hairy bravely falling on his sword to protect his family.” Those are her precise words. She and I viewed a different event today, but she is absolutely consistent in her loyalty to Harry. The problem is I see it is that now loyalty to Harry and loyalty to the royal family cannot really coexist, because by his own admission Harry is on his own path now. In order to reconcile Harry’s behavior and statements With her own believe that Harry is prioritizing his family’s well-being and that everything is hunky-dory between he and they behind the scenes, She creates an elaborate narrative where Harry is essentially a mole in his own marriage, Only pretending to go along with Megan schemes, but actually running back to his family to report on her and taking his marching orders from them, disdaining them in public for a greater cause, which is taking her down and out. Except that he married her in the first place and brought all these problems into the family, so I’m not sure how he can be at once instigator and Savior from his own Screw ups. According to Skippy, Harry enjoyed putting and crackers and chestnuts roasting over the open fire in the bosom of his family for Christmas but they just did a really really really good job of hiding him.
I wish I could believe along with her that Harry’s first loyalty is to his family and his position. It’s wishful thinking based on the evidence we have. Harry still appears with her because he wants the attention. Otherwise, he would refuse to go along with her games And would still see his family without her, even if an actual divorce is going to take years to obtain. The queen did not send Harry to Canada house today, so to call his presence there a dutiful grandson Doing his sovereign’s bidding to protect the family Is especially gymnastic of her. But I will refrain from using unhinged.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there is a definition of this that explicitly states it means something along the lines of having come forth of the female spouse's womb.
Of course that is what it implies as it dates back quite a few generations, before science developed to the degree that DNA was understood and could be tested to (dis)prove genetic relations. However, one could argue that using a surrogate to carry, grow and birth a baby that is the genetic offspring of the royal (married) couple, is still "of the body". As in, the ovum and sperm that created said baby came from the royal couple ("of the body").
Such a royal child might be more "of the body" than some "royal" children in the past who may have been birthed by the female royal and whose births were witnessed by royal doctors, but whose royal fathers were not scientifically proven to be genetically related to the child.
Just saying...
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@Hikari - Ding!Ding!Ding! No Botox while preggers is *right* on the money! No botulism for you while preggers for sure! I love when smart people "get it" :D
My take on Skippy is that she has a good heart and her loyalties are to HRM and the RF. I do believe that she is clutching at straws with the bit about Harry being oblivious to everything; I truly believe he's well-versed on what's going and actively participating at this point. After Trooping the Colours, it was made pretty clearly to me that a line in the sand was drawn and he took her side. Just my thoughts though. I do think Skippy has some interesting perspective and thoughts but as a whole, it's not reliable. Just like with Toronto Papers and Drip Drop, I take it all with a grain of salt. I do like her cute animal pictures though and the sections regarding the royal jewels, history, etc. :)
Then again I'm easily swayed by animal pictures so that's probably why I keep going back.
I don’t think being gay would be that big a problem for Harry in this day and age. Sense it is no longer necessary that he procreate to secure the crown, I think he had the freedom to be openly gay, and he probably would’ve been heralded for it As the brave rainbow warrior within the staid institution of the royal family. His grandparents and maybe his dad might’ve had a hard time with it, but I can’t help wondering if Williams remarks about being perfectly content if his children were gay as something of a coded message to his brother Rather than any suggestion that George might be gay. Harriet also no stranger to bad press for using drugs and getting involved in other less than well considered public debacles. So his sexuality Or dabbling in drugs, or even an illegitimate child on the way or not sufficient things to compel the entire royal family to go along with this marriage if harry were being coerced....Unless it’s homicide, or Harry was deeply involved in the same activities that brought down uncle Andrew. With the sleazy Soho house bunch all over this marriage and their current circle of friends so called, I just remain very suspicious That’s something very down and very dirty transpired to get Megan to the altar as a princess of the United Kingdom.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10693487/prince-harry-meghan-move-to-canada/
This is really well stated.
Skippy is Canadian and proud to be so.
I have really loved her blog and think her heart is in the right place for sure. She was one of the first to take on Mm and I applaud her for that.
But the mental gymnastics, as you so put it, to conclude that Harry is some brilliant undercover actor defy logic.
It is hard to reconcile the two extremes: that Harry has willingly split from William and Catherine and even Charles to align himself with Meghan, that he does often cling to her in public, that he has presented a baby to the world as their own,
that he appears in her Vogue issue and seems to collude with her with other schemes and plans, his angry outbursts about how she is treated (insert eye roll)..:
All of these actions do not appear to be from someone in anything other than a true committed partnership.
At the same time, these actions do not seem to correlate with some of his other behaviors: the way he frequently looks annoyed and irritated and tense around her, and relaxed without her; the alcohol and/or drug use; his unkempt and indeed unhealthy appearance that has continued to worsen; the weirdness surrounding around Archie, whoever he is; his extreme air of unhappiness; his casual remarks such as "is it mine"?; the way they sometime seem to have a power struggle going on; needing to "take a break" from the RF and duties, and many more examples.
Do they live at Frogmore? If he loves her and they are committed, then why don't they live where they say they live? If he wants out, why continue the charade?
I guess I don't understand, but MM marries into the RF, and in less than 5 years there are stories of moving to Africa, then to Canada? This is after very expensive remodeling is done to Frogville. Massive spending on wardrobe. Vanity projects for Vogue and Smart Works, trips on private jets, luxury vacations. But just existing folks, not thriving.
https://twitter.com/danwootton/status/1214668281191288833
My guess is that this is like the Doria coming for Christmas story - Meghan is putting it out there to see if it sticks.
>>>I think we can all agree that Skippy's SpongeMeg thing is a bit annoying. ;)<<<
No, I beg to differ. I find the SpongeMeg thing quite hilarious...and besides, it's not her creation but one of her fans that create the images. How many people here have talked about Megs body type, so caricature is an apt form of funny criticism,