Whatever Meg learned from her time in Canada, it did not include wearing socks.
She stepped out of her Royal vehicle at Canada House today wearing velvet (velvet being a winter fabric) shoes, a long satin skirt (satin is also generally a winter fabric), and improbably bare legs.
London weather for January 7: 51 degrees Farenheit, 11 degrees Celsius. Check out how the people in the background are dressed.
Meg's 7+ weeks off - counting from her last official appearance on Rememberance Day, November 17 - have left her looking much the same as she did when she left.
Her hair (or wig) is still unstyled and her coat too short for the dress and rather wrinkled. (Wouldn't it be an idea to slip on the coat just moments before exiting the car, to avoid having long horizontal folds across the back of a garment you know you will be photographed?)
When she emerged from the engagement, there were visible sweat stains on the armpit area of her brown turtleneck sweater, and ill-fitting undergarments were visible in the camera flash.
Besides appearing to be in a cheerful (perhaps hyper) mood, Meg showed no signs of an extended sojourn in Canada.
While I am not intimately acquainted with the habits of hikers on Victoria Island, I believe those habits include wearing socks.
She stepped out of her Royal vehicle at Canada House today wearing velvet (velvet being a winter fabric) shoes, a long satin skirt (satin is also generally a winter fabric), and improbably bare legs.
London weather for January 7: 51 degrees Farenheit, 11 degrees Celsius. Check out how the people in the background are dressed.
Meg's 7+ weeks off - counting from her last official appearance on Rememberance Day, November 17 - have left her looking much the same as she did when she left.
Her hair (or wig) is still unstyled and her coat too short for the dress and rather wrinkled. (Wouldn't it be an idea to slip on the coat just moments before exiting the car, to avoid having long horizontal folds across the back of a garment you know you will be photographed?)
When she emerged from the engagement, there were visible sweat stains on the armpit area of her brown turtleneck sweater, and ill-fitting undergarments were visible in the camera flash.
Besides appearing to be in a cheerful (perhaps hyper) mood, Meg showed no signs of an extended sojourn in Canada.
While I am not intimately acquainted with the habits of hikers on Victoria Island, I believe those habits include wearing socks.
Harry looks thin
Prince Harry, meanwhile, looks terribly thin. Perhaps he did not enjoy Canadian cuisine, or whatever else was available on the estate of the oligarch where they supposedly spent several weeks. Or perhaps some other enjoyment is making him thin.
Harry does look a little better than the last time we saw him - he's standing up straight instead of wobbling, and his trousers are not covered with mysterious stains.
The explanation for their visit to Canada House, to "thank the High Commissioner" for hosting them for their break in Canada, is a little shaky. Perhaps the Royal Family PR team did not provide them with any official events and this was the best they could do on their own.
They also reportedly stopped by the Hubb Kitchen beforehand. The Hubb ladies seem to be part of the dwindling portion of the British population that still likes the Sussexes.
What do you think about the Sussexes' reappearance?
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@Bravura LOL, don’t you know Archie is a Medical Marvel and no Botox while pregnant isn’t an issue for his Mother? She managed that while expecting with him so maybe his sibling has the same powers that be. I forgot to add that to the list I started in the last thread.
As for Dan Wooten, his premise is that Harry isn’t going to be the focus any more. No joke. He is the spare. Everyone knows this.
I'll drink to that! (Lapsang souchong, no milk, 1 tsp. sugar.)
You can see the tan lines in photos where she's descending the stairs of Canada House. They are whiter parts of skin that are symmetrical on both feet
I have learned that long-term options being floated include the Sussexes relinquishing their HRH titles or relocating their office to Canada. But friends of Harry and Meghan stressed the talks are preliminary and nothing has been finalised.
Telling quote from a Harry & Meghan friend to me this week: "They are on a different and unique path...it has been made very clear by the institution that the Sussexes are not central to the future plan. Look at the picture released of the Queen with Charles, William and George.”
You can see the tan lines in photos where she's descending the stairs of Canada House. They are whiter parts of skin that are symmetrical on both feet
I did not notice that, and I was looking for tan lines. I confess (hanging head in shame again) that once I saw the visible sweat and white bra, I forgot completely about tan lines on legs/feet. I shall go back and look again.
you can see the tan lines here.
https://twitter.com/TheTallestGnome/status/1214665344524181506
"Are Prince Harry and Meghan Markle planning to MOVE to Canada? Palace dismisses 'speculation' from friends that royal couple 'could run their office from there or even renounce their HRH titles' after success of Christmas break."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862531/Palace-dismisses-speculation-friends-royal-couple-run-office-Canada.html
Harry seems in pain. Bet she got too high and he’s annoyed, or she got high and he “can’t” due to rehab. Something is off.
People here obsessively talk about her horrible looks; profuse sweating, fat stomach and dirty stringy hair and a little cartoon is far kinder I think.
I hate her hair.
It's too long and it's obvious even to me (Captain Clueless) that it's a wig/extensions.
I hate her make up.
The lip gloss is too shiny, the eye shadow is too sparkly, the eyeliner is too heavy. She looked as though she was wearing a LOT of make up.
I hate the material of her skirt.
Satin. Seriously?
I hate the sweat stains.
You know by your late 30s if you sweat. Take appropriate measures and pad the pits or wear fabric or patterns that will hide sweat.
I hate the wrinkles in the skirt and the jacket.
She's had awhile now to learn the ropes on how to avoid wrinkles. Have I ever seen Kate with wrinkled clothing? I don't think so.
I hate the visible back fat roll because her bra is too small.
I'm fat. Not chubby. I'm fat, so there's no personal hate directed at her body type. But wear a damn bra that fits or wear a looser shirt. This ain't rocket science.
I hate the incessant hand holding.
Can't these two grow the eff up and STOP TOUCHING EACH OTHER?!
Finally, I really, really, REALLY hate that it appears they have learned NOTHING from their much-needed, they-work-SO-hard, $mirks had 83 engagements last year poor overworked woman, with probably 1/3 of them in South Africa so maybe 56 engagements spread over 50 weeks, the exhaustion must be overwhelming--Are you okay?--six week vacation.
On the plus side, Harry looked healthy, if a bit thin.
Why not be honest?
Btw, I am impressed that their BFF Elton announced a $1 million dollar donation towards the bushfire charities.
Of the body - oh I think it is pretty clear that it still has to be of her body, not someone else and that the DNA/modern technology has not caught up and changed British law (yet). This has popped up before and nowhere has anyone pointed out: here, the law's been changed. This kind of thing could have been raised before or just after their wedding if they felt they might need to go that route. The BRF doesn't get to decide which laws they feel like following when they want to.
I like Skippy, love the riddles but I'm in the don't like the cartoon drawing or nasty names either. It is a little too mean spirited for me (which is why I like this over that). I see/hear too much mean spirited teasing elsewhere so ... I limit my exposure. Like the comment about how contorted her thinking is about Harry, I agree that she's painted herself into a corner.
Sandal tan lines - snort.
So Botox, no Botox doesn’t really prove anything
Meg’s body type isn’t that uncommon in the general populace though one does not see it in the high fashion circles she aspires to.
I am sad to report that I am built like Meg. Short limbs broad shoulders barrel chested shirt waist no neck. Calves skinny but my maternal sides Germanic dumpling thighs. Weight goes directly to my middle. Meg has worked hard through whatever means to keep her weight down and apart from the midsection she is quite spindly. I have a squarish flat butt too, but have never resorted to butt pads. Meg has enhanced her chest, so she is naturally pretty flat. Never was my problem! I weigh more than Meg and when a Sponge gets puffy it becomes an apple. It is indeed a hard body to dress. No waist and no traditional hourglass feminine shape. Women’s clothing does not drape on a boxy apple figure without a lot of tailoring. Meg’s choices in clothing are the worst for our body type. But her figure flaws were not obvious when she was being dressed by others. She used to be a spokesmodel and filmed well in TV. Why she doesn’t replicate her successful looks from those says is anyone’s guess.
For a petite person Meg has very squared off hands which I do not find attractive. If she would stop waving them about so much they would not bother me so much.
I read somewhere she might have some physical reason (disorder) why her legs are so pitifully thin. I doubt she would have liposuction on them. The photo I saw of her face was unfaltering, maybe she is just heavier now.
Darling, you were late because you got your security to look for me. And you still can't look me in the eye, blinking too much. Btw nice Californian tan but your sweaty handshake was a bit disgusting! Nervous a bit today?!
Moving to Canada? Miffed because they were left out of the succession photo? They were OUT OF THE COUNTRY when it was taken (supposedly). And even if they were still in the UK, they are such minor royals it would be ridiculous to include them. The only possible contribution they could make to that photoshoot would be to turn up and make the tea.
I have no doubt they have been put out to pasture by HM, because they simply can't be trusted to do a public engagement. Mucky Meg turning up with sweat stains under her arms, her manic laughing and throwing her head back in exaggerated response to conversation, wearing a satin skirt in the middle of winter with no stockings, etc., is proof they can't perform even the simplest of public tasks. I think there will be no more royal engagements for them, apart from the ones like today's where they basically invited themselves to an invented engagement. And by the way, I don't think the Canadians would have been all to pleased only getting 48 hours notice at the most that the visit was going to happen, with the sole purpose being the mucky duo could pretend they are important and have photographers and RP people running around after them.
It was really interesting to me to see Harry's sourpuss expression while he was in her orbit at the totally self-serving Canada House appearance.
As a side note, I also noticed he dropped her right into it, by claiming to the Canadian officials that Mucky was going to thank them in French. Despite being whip smart and apparently speaking 473 different languages, she laughed and declined to do so, launching instead into a sugary thank you speech in English. I think this was a pretty pointed and bitchy thing for Harry to do, he clearly knows she can't speak French as claimed and was setting her up.
This moving to Canada nonsense is Mucky Meg flying a kite, to see what the response would be to such an idea, and also to push the sweaty armpit narrative off the front pages.
There is no way HM would let them move to Canada and still retain their HRH status and funding.
It's sad that since Mucky Meg has come along, Harry is now incapable of performing his constitutional duties which means shutting up and supporting HM The Queen in a quiet and dignified manner, in return for a life of unimaginable wealth and privilege.
This is not a man refreshed by a 6 week break anywhere. He looked good in the pic w Archie but who knows when that was actually taken?
Unless the camera flash PTSD is real. If so why agree to do this circus? Because Meg gets what she wants? Harry is a man trapped in. A Hell of his own making and it seems like it’s starting to dawn.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862531/Palace-dismisses-speculation-friends-royal-couple-run-office-Canada.html#newcomment
"'Thank you so much for having us - not that any of you had anything much to do with it,' he said to laughter."
If they had nothing to do with it, why was he there?
Perhaps this quote can explain it:
"Harry said later about their chat with Ms Charette: 'There's a hell of a lot of work to be done and things to be talked through but a very useful conversation.' "
Why was he discussing work to be done with the Canadian foreign service.. he seems to be angling for some type of make work project in Canada. (I still think that it will be as a trade envoy, following in the footsteps of Uncle Andrew).
Lastly, here's what Harry ha to say about Archie:
"'To see Archie go 'ahhh' when you walk by and just see how stunning it is, so it meant a lot to us…':. Archie said "ahhh". That's called babbling, Harry.
Not many from the UK. Probably more from Australia working in ski resorts.
And despite the USA being right next door, there aren't as many Americans living in Canada as you would think.
It says:
“Long-term options being floated include the Sussexes relinquishing their HRH titles or relocating their office to Canada.”
So apparently H&M relinquishing their titles is seriously being tossed around.
This is interesting that the discussion of no titles has gone beyond blogs and social media into mainstream media, which to me says the Harkles will be downgraded one way or another.
I’m sure Meghan will fight tooth and nail to keep her precious title and take it to Canada where Harry will be basically permanently isolated and totally under her narcissistic influence and once again, she’ll run wild.
Without titles, Meghan’s Sussex Royal brand doesn’t have much to stand on and they’d have little cachet to draw A-Listers and deep pocket donors.
I hope Harry realizes that no title means no Meghan. He would no longer be very useful and she'd likely move on to find her next target. The The royal title is the prime reason she stalked him in the first place.
People might think that HM and PC might hesitate to demote Harry or cut him off totally, but they did that to Andrew in one fell swoop. Preservation of the RF is paramount to its existence. Sometimes, hard decisions must be made.
If you have bone cancer in your leg and it’s working quickly to take over, as much as you love your leg, amputation might be your only option to keep the rest of your body alive.
The above is a link to a 3-minute video of our Dynamic Duo at Canada House. Harry seemed in good form. Even the "my wife will now speak French" comment appeared in jest and not snarky, although what on earth he meant by "there's a hell of a lot of work to be done" is beyond me.
Tatty, I can agree with you that botox can happen at different times but I'm not going to completely agree that pregnancy can mimic botox to the point where people might confuse the two.
Here's why or how I thought it though so you can point out what and why you feel I may be off.
Pregnancy may increase fluids (agree to this)
I don't think it can annihilate her face wrinkles. When you look at these pictures (and there are a lot of them) you don't see really any wrinkles across her forehead (too smooth - look for the closeups where her mouth is open and try to mimic it without wrinkling yours). Even the shot of Harry (where they are looking opposite directions) shows where the wrinkles are forming now on him - you should be able to see that wearing down of the inner valleys of where the wrinkles will form on her. But we don't.
And, we don't really see much in the way of crow's feet at the eyes. There is a lot of makeup there but not real traces of crows feet. Look at some of the profile shots - especially how smooth that area is and how the light shines on her face. There are no breaks in the highlighter from her cheeks arcing around the outside of the eye. There shots which show this and are not could it be that or is it the mascara/eyeliner.
When I think of pregnancy and fluids, I think it is more of a whole body thing rather than we see it only on the face (with no wrinkles or bags under the eyes) but not the hands or the feet or the arms.
menopause? could be, could be. It seems to sometime be appearing in younger and younger women nowaday. Personally, I didn't sweat like that (very obvious or whole body) but it sure felt like it was.
And IVF (had friends who did that) and it did weird things to their body.
Amputation - Happy Days. Absolutely and used a sharp knife.
Satin during the day? Ditto velvet shoes? Sweat stains EVER? That hair! That claw! Harry looks miserable.
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I am just now catching up tonight...Your comments are right on and hilarious!
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I love your theory about the veracity of the Canadian trip. Your theory seems possible to me.
I empathize with the sweating. I am perpetually overheating in FL, but I wear "dress shields" with loose tops of natural fibers in appropriate fabrics/colors. I am a natural fiber snob in any climate. Skin tight synthetics are the WORST choice.
Instead of " reinventing the monarchy's" fashion, MM could look so much better in tailored, fitted, matching coats/dresses/hats favored by other royal ladies.
Did she get breast implants recently? Perhaps she is just wearing padded bras? Does she want us to believe she is still breastfeeding? I don't.
If she is having fertility issues/treatments, she could help so many people by being honest with her journey. So many people would sympathize with her and support her. As the 30something spare's child, natural conception delivered "of the body" seems unnecessary.
I can't tell if H is still c-struck, but he seemed to be eyeing some of the more proactive art.
They say a politician's career is over if he is caught with a live boy or a dead girl. I suppose either would be blackmail worthy for royals too. The queen and Charles probably don't approve of homo- bi- trans - or sexualities other than hetero ( at least in public). Perhaps they will reconsider their views given the Markle Effect. Even Prince Phillip may agree that being openly gay/bi is preferable than being married to that "actress" the one with the bad wig and that ridiculous doll.
I neither know nor care if Prince Harry or anyone else is gay/bi/ whatever trendy kind of sexual they want to be. (Assuming they are consenting human adults)
Hoping Nutty’s post from Ann is accurate about the unwinding of the Sussex marriage.
However, no matter what sort of agreement is reached and no matter if a divorce happens this year or in ten years, I doubt she’ll go quietly. As a malignant narcissist, it’s just who she is at her core, a very angry person who refuses to take responsibility for her narc behavior.
Narcs go thermonuclear and fight dirty. I think Mayhem’s behavior during a divorce or after a divorce will make the McCartney-Mills parting look like a church picnic.
And because little Archie is a legal attachment to the RF at least until he reaches the age in the UK when he is considered to legally be an adult, she could continually harass Harry in court for a long time as she plays the wronged victim with a race card.
Also remember that it’s been reported (I believe I originally saw it on CDAN) that Meg has been keeping extensive detailed notes on her life with Harry since they started mating, er, I mean dating, and Fedexing them to someone in North America for safekeeping.
I’m sure she’d be banned from publishing anything from those notes about the RF, but it wouldn’t stop her from writing it as a thinly-veiled fictional book or having one of her friends like Lindsay Roth write it and split the proceeds from the book and a movie with Meghan. If she can split the proceeds from couture clothes with Jessica, she can split book revenues.
It could easily be written along the lines of the late 90s novel A Man in Full by Tom Wolfe. The characters were drawn from people in Atlanta, Georgia, who were easy to recognize in the book. Depending on how they led their lives and what secrets they had, everybody who was anybody in Atlanta either hoped or feared they’d appear in the book. The RF could end up in the same situation.
They do look like they could poke your eye out if you get too close. Could be hormonal although the IVF and fertility drug people could probably weigh in here with actual experience rather than my idle speculation.
I think it is disrespectful of Nuttiers to call each other names and demean the character of the other person. For example, "You're being ridiculous" is not how nice people speak to one another. I was called boring and indirectly (not very indirectly) called a narcissist a la Rach. Not that I value that opinion, but it's just rude and nasty. Far better to say "I really don't see it that way, or that is not how I see it, or in my opinion that seems a bit ridiculous", etc. OR just don't read those comments.
The aggressiveness is disconcerting, and I just ignore it (except when I commented to @Nutty on the last post to get her feedback), but it's so unpleasant and unnecessary. I feel like there are certain Nuttiers here just waiting to pounce on others.
Why so angry? IDGI.
It's a blog for thoughts and opinions. We do not have to agree, we do not have to even read every post here, but don't we need to treat each other respectfully or at least throw shade in funny, likable fashion a la Swampwoman lol (@Swampwoman, that was a compliment, btw).
There are respectful ways to disagree with someone and/or offer a different POV or additional facts. @Hikari and I have done it several times, but I always find her observations thoughtful and respectful, and while we don't agree, neither of us has ever made nasty comments about the others' character (unless you did that and I don't know about it, @Hikari, and that's a joke BTW lol).
Anyway, just my thoughts. It's been a stressful day and I was in a training session about military lock-downs and people at risk and in danger, and those problems seem so real and urgent and nasty, it doesn't seem like we need to be that way to each other here.
Anyway, my opinion only, totally off topic, and I fully expect Nutty to delete it, and IGI. And before a very few of you even start, no, I am not Meg, Tatty, Bootsy, or anyone else. It's quite possible that more than one person has the same opinion re a few things.
I'm glad you qualified that! I was thinking that it would be difficult to read the word salad.
DM is clearly not retouching photos and probably choosing especially unflattering ones. I wouldn't want to make an enemy of a tabloid newspaper.
One person recently had the audacity to say she couldn’t control herself with commenting on my posts about my posts because no one else was ignoring me!! Lol that everyone should ignore me because that is what she wanted.
I bet many of us would get along great in real life. We would have lively discussions about our common interests in the RF.
An interesting day from their return. Wonder what tomorrow will bring?
The Canadian public will also probably get stuck paying for the security of the two wastrels, and I do not believe Meghan will not spend much time there because it’s not a big enough stage for her massively narcissistic ego, but because they will have a residence there, it will still need security staff. The US is where she truly wants to be. It’s a bigger market with more wealthy people to tap into for money. If they stay married, her greed and arrogance are the top candidates to lead to her undoing via questionable activities and practices using the foundation.
Canada is only a substitute because HM probably said no to an LA base. She will spend most of her time in the US trying to build the Sussex Royal brand into a personal electronic cash machine as it masquerades as a humanitarian effort.
William and Kate live at their palace apartment during weekdays when school is in session, so it would be likely the Sussexes would be required to send Archie to schools in the UK too. Even though he is far down the line of succession, Archie is still a member of the royal family — as long as he passes a DNA test.
So this is the mindset that Harry is working from. I remember reading that Newsweek article and thinking how twisted his mindset is, where you view your nieces and nephews, barely out of infancy, as competition, a threat to your livelihood. If you read the full interview, Harry has some pretty big demons he is struggling with and he had them before Meghan become his wife. I think the whole RF is a dysfunctional mess in that if you are not directly in line to the throne, the message you internalize from birth is that you do not matter, you are not worthy.
Back to Meghan. I think it galls her that she is not adored like St. Angelina. She has the best PR money can buy, the most famous celebs and two former First Ladies vouching for her and NOTHING IS WORKING. She never achieved A-list status in Hollywood, so there is no Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Oscar in her future. The only thing she will continue to receive is more bad press because people can smell a phony from a mile away. All of the goodwill she had as a new bride was squandered so carelessly and it’s not coming back.
I think her true personality, the one that she tries to hide, is more like Princess Anne’s. Cerebral and tough as nails, minus the breeding and class. I’d go one further and call Meghan ruthless. Perhaps if she stopped with the bad acting and pretending to be vulnerable/coquettish/schoolgirlish, constantly clutching Harry’s hand, and just let the public see the real Meghan, they might actually warm to her more. Anne is who she is, and she makes no apologies for it. She keeps her head down and does her job. And people love her for it, because she is REAL, warts and all. IDK, that’s the best I have from this whole mess. I’ve worked in PR for my entire career, and I thank my lucky stars every day that I don’t work for H&M. What a hot mess….
I think someone was back in the US over their holiday and got their adderall refill. Super sweaty, staring off to no where, slightly unhinged and 5 pounds lighter but still bloated.
I dont want those two on my beautiful Island - if they do decide to apply for Canadian permanent residency then I hope they go to Toronto (but since Meghan has slept with half the Toronto Maple Leafs team they probably won*t)
The Toronto Maple Leafs are the professional ice hockey team in Toronto.
over-used women parts indeed! LOL
I stand with Elle.
Raynauds - Mom has it and I could make a good case for my having it. I will say that when I added thyroid daily, I haven't really had issues with it. Could be just a fluke.
Back to the usual topic, Unknown and the Dan Wooten article
Notice (yet again) the trip today was described as official (did it make it to the CC willing or unwilling or not at all?) and yet the question why would a vacation be pitched as such? It's not like they did anything similar on their other vacations. Diana used to write lovely little letters - especially thanking people (hint hint). She used a fountain pen, not a cheap thing.
If their official staff is to remain at Buckingham Palace - just how would it work for them to even consider anything official for Canada if all the staff is not there? Sounds like it would get expensive in staff duplication creep.
Not convinced that as the monarchy moves toward William that they would have felt this need to go off in a different direction which might be unconventional and controversial if they hadn't successfully shown consistently bad form in their past examples of work. The reward for behaving badly is not to be given the work you think you would like better than what you were asked to do.
I do think that a move to Canada would be very very close to LA, NYC and, more importantly, if you think no one is keeping even remotely some control on them last year, a move like this would be even harder. This would be especially true if drugs is a problem (IDK).
Notice the dangling of willing to give up the titles. But how could they run Royal Sussex if they aren't royal? There is a part of me which would really love to be a fly on the wall if they were actually seriously taken up on that part of the offer.
I figure Meagain must have gone to Uniforms-R-Us to have pick up that skirt fabric. LOL
Oh, and here's a link to download the magazine about Meghan:
Her outfit? Sigh. I think she has convinced herself that this combination of a shiny bottom and a matte top is trail blazing, although I don't see anyone else taking up this fashion idea and running away with it. She did the same thing with the maroon V-neck sweater and the redder leather skirt. I feel the shiny is to draw attention to her backside (hello butt pads, we meet again, because in reality she has a rather flat behind, but not today!) and her stomach. And the coat was wrinkled. Yet again. And the shoes didn't fit. Yet again.
Is a six-week hiatus synonymous with a visit to the plastic surgeon? Will she being doing this every six months? Claiming she needs a break from doing jack shit and heads directly to a plastic surgeon. It is now obvious to me that her extremely puffy face at the Trooping of Color was the result of work she had done that hadn't quite normalized itself, but she was determined to appear regardless of looking like she'd been attacked by a swarm of wasps. I do not have a problem with her getting her face done. I imagine it's the price one feels one has to pay. I have seen side-by-sides of Kate Middleton and it's obvious to me that she has had some eye work done. She tends to have bags under her eyes. What I dislike intensely about Ms. Markle is that she debuts her latest facelift or whatever work she has done with that obnoxious belly cupping to suggest she is in the early stages of pregnancy.
In short, fuck off.
I agree that “ruthless” is a good descriptor for Meghan. I’m not comfortable comparing her to the Princess Royal, Even if they do have toughness in common. I would describe Anne as “no nonsense”. Unvarnished, if you like. What you see is what you get. Meg is the antithesis of this in every way...Nonsense is her middle name, and There’s no varnish she won’t employ. Having people see her true self is the last thing she wants. Anne is The best part of both her parents, I think. Authentic to the core that one, and she doesn’t give a toss if her brand of authenticity is not fashionable. Her mother’s crown would likely be in safer hands with her, but Charles would be wise to make his sister his chief advisor when he takes over. I believe Meg is a profound narcissist, a condition that really renders her incapable of Having a fully rounded personality and meaningful personal relationships, or in changing her behavior to become a more authentic person. She is simply not equipped. She may think she is successfully hiding her true nature, but she is not. She won’t change, and it doesn’t seem that Harry is capable of change either. These two together are a perfect storm of dysfunction and I have a Feeling that the world will be enduring The Harkle show for years to come, if not decades. I have a real concern that Harry will not last for decades. He’s aged about 10 years in the last 18 months. If he separates totally from his family and goes to live in a foreign country, I think we are looking at an overdose or some other death by misadventure in the next five years. I hope I’m wrong, but he looks like a man swirling the drain. Megan is a survivor so Whatever happens I think Meg will outlast him. She’s got that ruthlessness on her side and he doesn’t. He’s been cared for coddled an insulated his whole life. He doesn’t even know what he’s in for if he’s cut off. The Dan Wooten article is devastating in its implications. He’s using softer diplomatic language, And pretending to put Some empowering gloss on it, But he’s basically come out and said that within days, Harry will be Getting his formal marching papers from Pa and Granny. ER has just booted Her favorite son from the Firm. Firing a troublesome and disloyal rogue grandchild should come easier.
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i have wondered if that is the case many times.
Maybe Harry is just an immature chemical-dependent jerk, and that's why he couldn't get anyone decent to marry him.
Some people have hair that looks wonderful when it's long. Not so for Markle. She does not look good with long hair. It is absolutely vomitous to look at her. How did she ever get to be an actress because she doesn't have a clue, and can't take any kind of direction.
I noticed those white stripes on M's ankles and feet but couldn't figure out what they were. Oddly symmetrical badly applied leg makeup? But yes, they look exactly like tan lines. I don't think that proves they were in the US though. But it does prove they weren't in Canada for all of their "break."
The palace left out the part about Meghan not wanting to be around so many poor people who also aren’t as fair-skinned as she is.
Rabbit - long hair comments
What I've noticed about long hair is that it tend to look really good on young girls/women but as they age up, it tends to more to draw their face down (like a weight). Then, if they have kept a center part, it really flattens the top of head hair in a way that also helps the pull down look.
The other way to make hair look bad is to not trim it so it is one length. One length all hangs together while stringy uneven shows off hair which is not in good shape. I guess the same goes for wigs.
Tatty, when I read the original adderall comment, I took it as a comment/observation that a lot of people in Hollywood get that so they can lose some weight instead of for all the right medical reasons and that the NHS was not cooperative to her by prescribing it when she didn't need it.
I saw a few youtube videos and it seems like they went to Canada House today to talk about going to live there. I think they think it's still 1920 and that Canada is still a colony. Who do they think is going to pay for them to live in Canada and pay for her outrageous expenses and security? The Canadians certainly don't want to. She is as hated in Canada as she is in the UK.
https://twitter.com/canadianuk/status/1214649245824888833
Canada House tweet
https://mobile.twitter.com/royalreporter/status/1214665866140377089
As much as Meghan wants adoration, I'm sure she is laser focused on cashing out via the Sussex foundation above all other ventures. This makes a move to Canada even more sensible from her perspective.
When the Harkles are in the UK, the truth inevitably comes out. People see it for themselves, in botched appearances, and what people feel is backed up by faithful leaks from the royals about what is taking place.
In Canada, Meghan likely feels she is on "her" turf and she has a better chance to be able to control her image. She's going to need to be seen as likable and friendly if she's going to bilk people out of millions of dollars. Easier to do that outside of the UK.
My guess is the Harkles, if they are still together then, will eventually find their way to the USA after wearing out their welcome in Canada. Hollywood and Meghan seem the perfect match, not because she is a star but because there are so many wish they could be stars in that place and Meghan fits that set to a tee.
As I've said before, I don't think Harry is a dupe in all this. I think he's a willing accomplice, at least for now. It looks like it's going to take more time for him to realize just how much damage he is doing to his own brand and life by propping up this sad charade.
In terms of where they've been, I do wonder why their communications team made such a big deal of M's desire to travel to the US for the holidays if that was never the plan. Simple misdirection? Or a play for sympathy? (Who could blame a homesick woman for wanting to take her baby to visit her homeland) Or the team had no clue?
For a "private" vacation, there's no need to tell the public where they are going and for security it makes sense not to (although it was a really long vacation and the appearance at CH questions how private it was.)
But just like they weren't required to tell the press/public when M went into labor, they said they would do that and then reneged. I think that's the problem with the Sussexes. Other royals don't have their communication teams explicitly say they'll do X and then do Y (or if they do, they haven't been caught.) But with the Sussexes, absolutely nothing released by their office can be trusted--ever.
Pot meet kettle. I'm starting to think the unknowns are on to something.
I think they made it pretty far in Victoria before they were outed, and they could have hopped around a few places. We just don’t know. And right, we just don’t know why they do they things they do. Look at how express had to remove 3 articles today because they were wrong abut quoting daily mail saying Omid said they put plans for baby 2 on the back burner. So it’s never easy to discern what is hype, what is incorrect, what is misdirection etc.
I am sure that the other royals still in the UK will be thrilled to have the Harkles out of the way, for sure. But the only people to blame for that reality are the Harkles themselves.
True. But last I checked Omid, The Express, and the DM were not on the Sussexes official communications team. I'm talking about announcements from their own team released through their BP office that turn out not to represent reality. That's a problem.
I am rushing to a business appointment and *do not appreciate* having to take 10 minutes to go through and delete comments with you ladies sniping at each other.
I mean you, Mischi, plus the "Unknown" who keeps sniping at Tatty. Tatty is here with my full endorsement, even though I don't always agree with her. This is not an echo chamber.
If you want to play on the bumper-cars, go to an amusement park. That's not what we do here.
Cut it out.
I hope no tea pots get flung at whoever has the bad luck to be blamed for the “flop sweat”
Somebody please tell me why??
https://the-charlatan-duchess.tumblr.com/post/190131688609/the-title-is-very-important-to-her-because-she
Some predictions from me (and possibly confirmed by the rumours and the real photographic evidence):
1. Energetically the marriage is over. It is not working for either of them and they are not happy. Harry will cling to it and the fantasy of love and perfect partnership (and ignore that he is in a toxic relationship as were his parents; perhaps he has the unconscious belief that he will stay committed unlike his parents, who should have stayed together ... and all the complications of such a belief). Megsy will cling to it because of the title, global platform, wealth and so on (depends on how much she believes her own illusions about herself). The PDA that is still left is putting on a show and she is the one still trying to push it.
2. The rumoured move to Canada will only happen if the Queen is foolishly indulgent. I think Charles and William may stop that from happening (unless they make the move as private citizens). Moving all the time is something I have experienced with a narcissist. Pack up, relocate (sometimes from continent to continent), and set up all over again, but the discontent soon sets in and the negativity and devaluing of the new place and the people soon starts, sometimes even before the move is complete.
3. The negotiations behind the scenes to separate and divorce (driven by her) will be hidden for quite a while, although rumours will circulate. She will go on to a life of talk shows (talk, talk, talk), setting herself up as an influencer, advertising anything as long as it is a major global campaign that will get her on TV and on billboards, trying to use the royal link for empty positions in organisations (whoever will take her) that will pay for travel and get her in front of the cameras. He will disappear to lick his wounds and hopefully recover. Archie will unfortunately bounce between the two of them but his only hope of stability and reliability is his father and his family.
If they stay together, they will become like the Windsors (Wallis and Edward): completely irrelevant but still of interest to gossip columnists and society reporters (but Megsy will never have the elegance and style and class that Wallis had).
Maybe the Canadians would have to fund RPOs (maddening thought I know - apologies to Canadian nutties), we UK saps pay for housing and the Duchy of Lancaster would continue to fund clothes, jewellery etc. (or does Lancaster pay for office admin and Cornwall still get fleeced for clothing and jewellery?)
Lancaster makes me think of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster. Those two would last a nano-second with him. He would keep Meghan in a remote castle or convent for starters and we the people could breathe a deep sigh of relief.
Just re-iterating Elle's comment of yesterday evening, which I agree with.
Elle, Reine des Abeilles said…
Off topic, but I've just got to say it:
I think it is disrespectful of Nuttiers to call each other names and demean the character of the other person. For example, "You're being ridiculous" is not how nice people speak to one another. I was called boring and indirectly (not very indirectly) called a narcissist a la Rach. Not that I value that opinion, but it's just rude and nasty. Far better to say "I really don't see it that way, or that is not how I see it, or in my opinion that seems a bit ridiculous", etc. OR just don't read those comments.
The aggressiveness is disconcerting, and I just ignore it (except when I commented to @Nutty on the last post to get her feedback), but it's so unpleasant and unnecessary. I feel like there are certain Nuttiers here just waiting to pounce on others.
Why so angry? IDGI.
It's a blog for thoughts and opinions. We do not have to agree, we do not have to even read every post here, but don't we need to treat each other respectfully or at least throw shade in funny, likable fashion a la Swampwoman lol (@Swampwoman, that was a compliment, btw).
There are respectful ways to disagree with someone and/or offer a different POV or additional facts. @Hikari and I have done it several times, but I always find her observations thoughtful and respectful, and while we don't agree, neither of us has ever made nasty comments about the others' character (unless you did that and I don't know about it, @Hikari, and that's a joke BTW lol).
Anyway, just my thoughts. It's been a stressful day and I was in a training session about military lock-downs and people at risk and in danger, and those problems seem so real and urgent and nasty, it doesn't seem like we need to be that way to each other here.
Anyway, my opinion only, totally off topic, and I fully expect Nutty to delete it, and IGI. And before a very few of you even start, no, I am not Meg, Tatty, Bootsy, or anyone else. It's quite possible that more than one person has the same opinion re a few things.
Althoug they were members of high society in London, the couple went through numerous rehab stints and even started a foundation dedicated to fighting drug abuse. The wife, Eva Rausing, was ultimately found dead of an overdose, her body having lain undiscovered for several days. (The husband made a comeback - Google "How the billionaire who hid his wife's dead body schmoozed his way back into society" for more.)
It's hard not to wonder if there is some parallel to the Sussexes. Harry's extreme thinness is worrying.
Traditionally the court is wherever the monarch is, so as the monarch moves around the country, the court moves with her/him. In the modern day, the Queen does not have a huge entourage following her around the country as in Medieval times (with modern communications it is not necessary). She is taking a break from official engagements (but I think those don't stop entirely either).
I think any delay in an announcement will be due to the number of people who will be consulted and the diplomatic to-ing and fro-ing between the Sussexes and the Queen's court. Perhaps the Andrew expulsion happened so quickly because he put up no resistance and the courtiers already had a plan and were just waiting for him to go a step too far to persuade Andrew and the Queen to put it into action (even then, Phillip was consulted).
You may be right though in that, as with, Diane's death, the public are not comfortable with the Queen not being at BP when something major in the royal family happens. If there is going to be an announcement re. the Sussexes, the Queen may well think that the public would want the reassurance of her continuing with her engagements as normal.
And for her to live like Wallis, exiled and without titles and connections, would last for a New York minute before she was off to her next mark.
As for the outfit, if she was merching, someone is gonna be pissed. It was awful. And the pit sweat. Unbelievable.
I know some of you are not into torontopaper, but I find it interesting. Someone upthread mentioned a look for fear and apparently someone from TP was there and up close. Hmmmm ....
Another bit of news regarding Ron Burkle, a powerful MM ally. His son, who was in his 20s, was found dead. No other details that I know of.
Prince Charles supposedly sent Harry to (very brief) rehab when he caught him smoking marijuana.
PopBitch, the well-sourced London gossip newsletter, has also reported that Harry sends his RPOs out to pick up his cocaine, or "gak" as they call it.
I also believe that Harry has long struggled with alcohol. There were some reports that he had dried out, and then fell off the wagon during the rugby championships in Japan.
Yes, we discussed this briefly in the previous thread. Heartbreaking for his family and friends.
Burkle and the Clintons were once close, although they seem to have gone their separate ways. Tin-hatting, but I hope to hell nothing happened to that boy as a way to send a message to his father. There are some bad hombres out there.
@tatty strabismus - Lady Louise has this but her birth was extremely traumatic following the placental abruption suffered by her mother; mother and child almost died; many attribute her eye problems to this.
@Bardsey I would look good in those colours though not the actual garments she chose but then I am a green eyed redhead
@Bravura I have red hair and very dark auburn eyebrows and lashes. My brother had very dark almost black hair and a ginger beard. We are of English Irish and Scottish ancestry
Of the body - in the past it was considered that witnesses were essential at the birth of an heir to ensure that no live baby was substituted for one born dead so "of the body" means coming from the body of the legal wife. Prince Charles was born of his mother's body even though delivered by Caesarean section - the Princess was reported as having been in labour for 30 hours.
I also believe that Harry has long struggled with alcohol. There were some reports that he had dried out, and then fell off the wagon during the rugby championships in Japan.'
I am very much against labelling Harry a drug addict, since I have witnessed drug addiction very close up, but there is a difference between over indulging and full-on addiction.
My favourite accurate tarot reader released her latest reading today. She has been picking up that Harry is drinking too much for a while now, but now she is now picking up that he is using drugs, probably some kind of psychedelic. She is being cautious and says it could be something like drinking far too much coffee, but she tends to think that it is some other kind of drug (not not an addiction or out of control, but definitely using something).
I am familiar with the tarot so am always aware that the reader does influence interpretation of cards, which is why the best of tarot readers do get it wrong, but this one is accurate more often than not (and note that she started this reading before the appearance at Canada House).
It is a long read, but if you have an objective interest and are not going to attack this lovely tarot reader in any way, here it is (most here will probably find that the cards and interpretation resonate with what they are picking up, such as Nutty sensing alcohol abuse and drug use):
https://talkingtarot.tumblr.com/post/190138376302/where-do-they-stand-now-prince-harry-and-meghan
This MM debacle has lifted a veil and given us a glimpse into the reality that all is not as it seems. MM's lack of savvy, outright lies, obfuscations, contradictions, blatant PR etc has proven that. By watching closely we can clearly see that something is very wrong.
When talking to people who don't pay attention, nothing is amiss!!! That to me is disturbing indeed and perhaps why they get away with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIC5znWxZt4
The latest to jump on the bandwagon is their pal and documentary maker Tom Bradbury.
"Prince Harry and Meghan Markle ARE 'considering' a move to Canada! Royal couple's ITN confidant Tom Bradbury says idea of them leaving UK is 'no secret."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7862531/Palace-dismisses-speculation-friends-royal-couple-run-office-Canada.html
(wish there was an edit button)
This one? When I first saw it I thought it was an expression of dislike that she hadn't masked, but now you've mentioned that I can see where you're coming from.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/07/16/23110114-7859867-image-a-322_1578414552117.jpg
This one also stood out to me. My instinctive feeling is he's pulling her along and saying "behave yourself". I had flashbacks to when my now adult kids were younger and started misbehaving in public; the braced hand-holding arm to keep control of their movements and "walk" them away before they made a scene while quietly explaining where/why we're going out of the corner of your mouth - the expression on her face looks like she's doesn't like what she's hearing too.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/07/18/23116570-7859867-image-a-48_1578423285314.jpg
@Dallas Alice: [i]"He’s made many pointed remarks about her in her presence."[/i]
I laughed out loud at this bit from the DM article, remembering the past conversations on here I've read wondering about her true language abilities.
[i]He prompted further laughter by suggesting that Meghan would speak to them in French, much to her horror. 'No!' she said before telling the staff: 'I want to say Happy New Year and thank you' [/i]
The party was held at the weekend. I'm not sure the Sussexes had returned from Canada yet.
One quote from the DM re their visit to Canada House yesterday says: "Aides said the couple, who were still jet-lagged and only got back very recently..."
It's been a while since I travelled long distance. How long does jet lag last??
I repeat - that `birth certificate' had no authenticating stamp/seal and IMO is suspect.
As for adopted children, I doubt if they would - in English intestacy law, only `full-blood' relatives share the deceased's estate. Half-relatives & adopted ones have no claim. I shouldn't think the throne's any different.
As for her wearing brown and their gaze being diverted elsewhere - there wasn't a reappearance of the `Lady in Brown' in the crowd, was there? HarryMarkle dealt with this in relation to a service at the Abbey and speculated that LiB was the surrogate
Finally, my immediate thought at the 2019 Trooping the Colour was that she was going, not for the Wimbledon Michael Jackson look, but for Olivia Spencer's Minny Jackson look (hair-do, best go-to-meetin' clothes, `I'm really goin' to stick it to 'em this time expression on her mush) as she approached the mansion, chocolate pie in hand.
She's been dishing out the chocolate pie all along. Yes, something really dirty seems to be going on.
As it stands it is simply a convenient excuse for them and a chance to save face.
Tatty, yes-menopause is induced during IVF and then you are pumped full of hormones to have your cycle come roaring back. It’s quite a hormonal roller coaster.
Flying eastward, as the Sussexes just did, is in my opinion more difficult than flying westward, which is what they would have done at the beginning of their trip.
It is annoying, and a waste of energy that could be used on writing posts.
As for our loveleis - the jet leg didn't stop them whipping up dust in London. Probably they are more robust than myself. Oh well, I mostly fly economy they fly private jets or first class. That sure makes a difference.
I have lost your 'Miss Minnie in her best meetin' clothes with "chocolate pie" in hand" comment, but though it's early in the morning where I am, I am awarding you my Comment of the Day prize. You have nailed exactly how Meg's smug face looked in the ToC carriage. Your prize is a virtual Starbucks drink of your choice, with a side of chocolate pie. Bwahaha. *Unadulterated*.
Re. your other comment as to the 'how soon' possible departure . . Dan Wooten said that there would be a 'Come to Pa' moment meeting very soon. Perhaps Charles will see the couple prior to having another sit-down (if they are allowed to sit, that is) with the Queen when she returns.
If she will stay at Sandringham until after February 6th, that is the best place for her right now--private time with her ailing husband. And perhaps spending daily time communing with her father's memory and seeking guidance. Her father had to deal with the Luftwaffe; despite H. and M.'s best efforts to drop bombs on the Royal family, that are not to that level of menace. They still need to be muzzled. Since house arrest with no social media does not seem to be in the cards, Buck House should get on the horn, quietly, to issue a statement to the effect that Harry and Meghan are not to be received anywhere as though they are on official business, and any such 'reception' as occurred yesterday will be extremely displeasing to Her Majesty. Also, it could be reiterated to the media that if they value their continuing access to *important* members of the Family, they will not cover the antics of the Sussex duo unless their activities appear on the Court Circular. A press blackout on them will be tough to achieve, but it might staunch the deluge a bit
To use an Australia analogy, to starve a fire requires depriving it of fuel to burn and oxygen. Press coverage is Meg's oxygen; don't give her any and she will die. BP is going to have to abandon its centuries' old policy of 'No comment' and counter each of the Sussexes' shenanigans with a brief statement to the effect that "The activities of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are not supported by the Palace."
Meg might be able to finangle a Kardashian-style reality show on a cable network in L.A., but that's all she's good for. It's all she wants . . .as long as she gets paid.
I'm pretty sure that the Sussexes would categorically not been invited to Kate's birthday weekend even if they'd been around. The birthday girl deserves to relax with people she likes, who like her. Plus, William wouldn't have stood for it. Sadly, we are long past the day when Harry and his wife would have been welcome at family parties.
Then, of course, I remember Octo-mom and maybe this falls under the category of the customer is always right.
The Miss Minnie comment was from Wild Boar Battle Maid. I apologize for the error. Virtual lattes and chocolate pie for you as well, Maid!
Interesting. Nice touch with the 'sweaty handshake' . . though anyone who had viewed the photos could have written that and been right. The bit about them being late because Meg was having her security detail look for TP is more intriguing.
I am on the fence as to whether TP is a troll, or potentially a group of trolls. But if he/she is real, and known well to Meghan by sight, as the tweet implies--why would she concoct a visit to the lair of her enemy(ies)? To show 'them' she's not scared and she's Winning!!!?
Except there seems to have been a significant amount of anxiety and visible proof to the whole viewing world that Winning!!! is the very last thing that is happening here. This is on a par with South Africa. Worse. She didn't sweat as much in South Africa and the hair looked better on at least a few of the days.
This visit to Canada House may just be the Waterloo they are not coming back from.
I don't recall ever taking that long to recuperate after a long haul flight but as I said, the last time I flew LH was many, many years ago - so I will take your word for it. :)
Would be good to know when they actually returned to the UK.
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@Holly,
Yes, the video within the video was a nice touch. As for how she behaves behind closed doors - all narcs behave the same way. Badly!
1. Harry's weight loss, Meghan's puffiness
2. Unexplained sweating and/or appearing to be "hot" compared to others in same situation (both)
3. Unusual paleness (Harry but who knows what M would look like without so much makeup)
4. Uncontrollable giggling at inappropriate times (both)
5. Sloppiness in attire (both)
6. Questionable personal hygiene (both)
7. Mood swings and seemingly impulsive behavior (both)
8. Careless driving (Harry swerving when driving to the roundtable discussion at Windsor Castle)
9. Difficulty walking (Harry in SA but Meghan's had a number of stumbles--- and would probably have had more if not hanging onto Harry)
10. Odd jaw movements on multiple occasions (Meghan)
11. Unusual amount of fidgeting (Harry)
12. Past behavior (both--- Harry Las Vegas and other quasi-public sprees. Meghan---choosing to distribute pot at last wedding)
Each of these can be explained away in some other way-- Botox or other procedures, poorly fitting shoes or heels that are too high, pregnancy, IVF procedures, bad dental work or snap-in veneers, adjustment to new marriage, spoiled behavior, entitled behavior, arrogant behavior, immature behavior, other psychological disorders besides substance abuse...but taken together, they do loudly suggest possible drug use to those of us who have been around drug users. And there's no need to invoke unverified gossip such as Will not wanting bachelor Harry around the kids at KP because he was too often drunk.
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Re: Kate's birthday party. Why invite H&M? Even if things were great? I may be wrong but I don't think there is any evidence Harry stayed at Anmer Hall over Kate's birthday weekend in the past. Despite some press stories, I don't think W&H were joined at the hip after Will married. And Kate's birthday has always been a Middleton affair.
Yes, I saw that video yesterday. Her and her blasted CLAW simply had to put him in his place.
Down Boy! (as if commanding her dog)
Agree with this, but it does depend on the person. Coming home they should have felt awful. However, if they flew private or business/first class and had a bed, they could have slept a lot of the jet lag off. Some people recover much quicker than others, and I know some people who don’t suffer from jet lag at all, especially if they’re used to being awake or working at odd hours.
I have also doubted that MM is fluent in several languages, which I believe was touted on one of her CV's. I could be wrong.
I also find it interesting that she didn't want to speak French when prompted.
There are quite a few crazy theories floating around regarding that tiresome duo. 2taz’s comments and analysis sound reasonable and balanced.
I never understand Harry’s appeal. He is not handsome, intelligent or kind. I don’t understand why some people threw out some crazy conspiracy theories to defend his indefensible actions. They are as crazy as some of the sugars.
"2taz’s comments and analysis sound reasonable and balanced."
That is one of the reasons I like her so much. Plus of course her bubbly personality.
I love watching her videos, as she hits the nail squarely on the head each time. :)
Please keep sweeping the floor clean. It benefits us all. :)
Don't know how you can take a lot of this 'reporting' by the tabloids seriously. Wooten implies Megs sold her Toronto home for over £1 million in 2017. However, even not very clever google managed to find an article in a reputable Canadian paper which says that Megs rented the house from a former Canadian stylist for Flare & her husband. Sheesh. Don't know whether Megs planted that, or if it was a Wooten mistake. I know the news on the web is dashed out by necessity, but this is how a lot errors get out there. A minor one, but you wonder what else is factually wrong. Megs may be somehow coming up with the dosh to pay big PR firms like Sunshine Sachs, but often the stuff reads like either Megs herself is writing it, or its written by teenage PR interns doing work experience stints & they're allowed to smoke pot on the job. It might be kinda fun, 'What can we make up now." Sometimes the Harkle saga is like reading an Onion article.
Possibly - but either way, it's still controlling behaviour.
When he stumbled in South Africa, it looked as if he had injured his back. However, when I badly injured my back (torn muscle when moving a heavy bookcase on my own), there were over the counter medicines easily available to get me through the worst (I don't believe in popping pills all the time to completely deny discomfort and pain and was aware that when I was doing that for absolute necessity, I should still be careful but being careful and wincing with pain as you stumble are two different things). Maybe there was a back injury caused by carpet gymnastics (remember the inappropriate letter and announcements happened just before that appearance and Harry was probably stressed and Megsy was trying to keep him under her control). Why would any sane person refuse medication that works quickly and is very effective? Embarrassment about how the injury happened? Some kind of refusal of medication? I then tell myself to stop the mental gymnastics and accept that he was either severely hungover or drunk or both.
The weight loss is a big red flag for drugs (drinking too much beer is not going to make you skinny, even if you forget to eat - all those carbs have to go somewhere). Cocaine/crack are the classic drugs for this, but I know two habitual/addictive marijuana users who's skinniness is directly related to how much they are using. I suppose using a psychedelic for recreation would also lead to weight loss. I mistakenly concluded that Megsy had dropped a few kilos until I saw all the photos of her. What kind of person watches someone close to them fading away and does nothing? Roast a chicken for heavens sake Megsy!
We've spoken about the WellChild Awards here. He did not break down emotionally but looked across at Megsy and burst into laughter and then tried to compose himself and cover up (the video is quite clear).
One can find all sorts of clues that lead to a conclusion of drug addiction, and they may be completely misleading. We cannot label any and all odd behaviour as drug addiction, because, let's face it, human beings can be very odd for many reasons, and the Sussexes are subjected to more scrutiny than others.
But alcohol and drug abuse would explain a lot, and could also explain why Megsy is so easily able to dominate and control him (nope, other than drinking too much wine sometimes and then posting on IG, Megsy does not appear to have a substance abuse problem, but maybe I am in denial and that explains her often messy appearance, although what is she taking that does not lead to weight loss - just too much wine, which would explain the belly?).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7865065/Meghan-Markle-spotted-leaving-Londons-National-Theatre.html
Sorry if I contradict but this comment alone proves to me she is either under influence or her brains are roasted by past use. Her baby is 8 months and she sounds as if the next thing he is planning to do is writing a review on Tripadvisor.
Please tell me how many 8 months olds let you known they find the landscape breathtaking.
I have 35 years experience from a family member with ADHD, as well as a next-door, long time neighbor. Extremely poor judgment is a major symptom.
That reminds me of an old chestnut:
Jewish people do not recognize Jesus as the Son of God.
Protestants do not recognize the Pope as infallible.
Southern Baptists do not recognize one another in the liquor store on a Saturday night.
I'm Lutheran . . a denomination very fond of the fermentational arts. Pass the Contemptinis.
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As Fairy Crocodile mentioned above, I think it's a good thing for our community to include diverse points of view on our common topic. Different perspectives are valuable. The discussion here is at a quality level not usually seen in online forums. It would be a shame if we devolved into the distaff version of CB or Lainey Lee . . the online groups who actively hope for the death of William and his family so their designated Queen can rule. I only wish for the sake of Meg's supporters and their loyalty that she had conducted herself in a way worthy of their admiration; she has let everyone down who expected great things from the first (and probably only, given the way this experiment has played out) biracial American duchess. It's tempting to deal in stark blacks and whites (in a non-racial sense) . . nobody is 100% perfect . . even Kate . .or 100% evil . . even Meg. She is very damaged in her psyche, and seems to entirely lack 'Game', even though she seems to believe herself a master player. The spectacle yesterday is of a couple hanging by a thread. If Meg were a savvy and bone fide intelligent malignant narcissist, she would be cool and together and bide her time for maximum benefit to herself. The woman we saw yesterday is anything but together. (Not 'cool', either, obviously.) Her impulsivity and exhibitionism are destroying her master plan but she doesn't seem capable of stopping. She is no longer able to even maintain the semblance of holding it together on the outside. A wily statistician (think the Marquise de Mertuil in Dangerous Liasions--also a malignant narcissist) would be impeccable in her grooming and public manners; she'd speak well and would ingratiate herself 'in friendship' to all the power players in her current family. She'd play a long game that lasted for years without letting slip her intentions.
For all her grandiosity, Meg lacks any foundational skills to actually put any substance behind the pretense. Her whole life is dress up (badly) and Pretend! I've never seen so many fake open mouthed smiles as she gave yesterday outside of a fashion shoot. In Meg's mind, that was what was happening--Supermodel Duchess come to pose for the adoring cameras.
Delusion of this magnitude is sad to witness. It's gone beyond schadenfreude--she needs help, but due to the nature of her disorders, she would never accept help. Harry might benefit from help, but as long as she keeps him from seeking any, he's doomed too.
>>>Please tell me how many 8 months olds let you known they find the landscape breathtaking.
Archie is Super Advanced, you know. He was speaking in complete sentences at 4 months.
When he was not sleeping for 11 hours at a time, that is.
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As I've said before, I have a fair bit of observational experience with babies and toddlers. Archie is significantly more than 8 months. The child Harry was holding is basically a toddler. 12-13 months is my estimate. Most toddlers are walking around this time; 14 months is considered a bit late. That lanky-limbed little person in the Ugg boots is probably walking and saying a few words by now, but waxing rhapsodic about the glories of Canadian nature are still a bit beyond him.
I'd love to believe that little Archie had a fun Christmas in Vancouver doing outdoorsy stuff with Daddy. That would be a happy thought. Wish I could absolutely believe it.
It's all out there for us to see with our own eyes.
It's funny that we're all reading these news articles so carefully. I had a relative whose language skills lead him to a stint as an intelligence analyst for the US Military many years ago. He said they mostly just read newspapers & magazines from other countries, as governments have been playing disinformation games for as long as governments have existed. So we're like spies! LOL!
Journalists are, by nature, gossips. They love to have the latest info and be the first person to tell all about it. It's why they get so upset when they're "scooped" by somebody else.
Whatever they can get away with publishing, they will publish. Speaking as someone who has spent a lifetime around media people, they are terrible at keeping any kind of secret.
I'm confident that the various "hints" we see in the Daily Mail, such as the clever placement of stories, are an example of this.
Although having said all that in defence of not wearing tights with that skirt, if I was in Meghan's position and knew that I should be wearing them for engagements then I'd choose outfits that either worked with them so I didn't have static issues, or choose an outfit where they weren't necessary such as trousers.
And a belated thank you to Hikari for the compliment on my screen name :O) I meant to add that to my last post and forgot.
Lurking with Spoon, how right you are the art of good dressing includes correct fabric choices. Satin skirt and synthetic stockings will produce enough sparks to run a small generator. So, not only she breaks protocol with bare legs, she is showing she has no clue re time and place for clothes. Her skirt would work for informal environment with a lighter blouse and sandals - without stockings. Certainly not with cashmere top and camel hair coat!
It's a sure tell that Meg's French fluency is about as good as JFK's German.
Anti-static sprays work quite well to stop static. Almost like magic. (For me, since I only wear stockings on dressier occasions, wearing a slip or half slip that's a non-static one usually does the trick.) And as I recall, on the very few occasions we've seen M wearing stockings static cling wasn't a problem. But you still could be right. I tend to think though she's just determined not to bow to the Queen's preference (in ANY way.)
@Nutty,
Due to AdBlocker on my work server, I can't view the DM article proclaiming Meg's visit to the National Theatre today. Are we placing this in the 'clever placement of (made up) stories category?
Wow, she's really hit the ground running after her 8-week hiatus, with two PR jaunts within 24 hours. The National Theatre must be thrilled to welcome their patroness back through their doors. It's only been a year since her last (and only) visit. What outfit was she merching today?
Oy, this pair tries me so hard.