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Meg and Kamala

Although I haven't been around much recently, I've enjoyed reading the comments. Recently the group was discussing whether or not the Sussexes would release a Christmas card this year, given what Meg's tragic miscarriage last summer (if you believe the official version of events) or their lack of access to the baby playing the role of Archie (if you don't).

I was struck by Enbrethiliel's suggestion that if the Sussexes do a Christmas card this year, it might include a quote from Kamala Harris.

Birds of a feather

Actually, I'm surprised that Meghan hasn't tried harder to publicly associate herself with Harris. 

Both women are biracial, both California natives, both "woke" Democrats. They even have similar hairstyles and fashion preferences. Both are fond of big, airy language with minimal substance, and both are openly ambitious. 

In fact, there's quite a bit of chatter suggesting that Joe Biden will have quite a short presidency and quickly resign in favor of Harris, perhaps for health reasons or some connection to his troubled son's business dealings. 

Wouldn't Meghan love to be connected with the first female president? Maybe even pose Archie in a "Harris and Harrison" photo to go with has "Arch and Archbishop" Bishop Tutu? 

Harris went after Meghan first

Ironically, in the past it has been Harris who has worked hard to associate herself with Markle. 

In October 2019, on her official Senate account, Harris commented on Meghan's weepy video statement in South Africa, in which Meg suggested that the Royal Family rarely asked how she was doing. 

Harris' Tweet read: "This is incredibly important. We must remember that it's a sign of strength to show emotion. Meghan, we are with you."

(The boldface is in the original).

In 2019, Harris was running in the Presidential primaries and might have thought she could benefit by associating herself with Meghan. (She eventually dropped out without winning a single delegate.)

Time Magazine brought them together

In June 2020, Harris again used her official Senate account to comment on Meghan's (apparently unrequested) graduation video for students of her alma mater, discussing racial justice.

Harris wrote, using boldface again, "The only wrong thing to say is nothing. Thank you, Meghan, for this powerful statement."

At the time, Harris was out of the presidential race entirely, although certainly aiming for the vice president job. 

Meghan's video bears a Time Magazine watermark, and Harris also has a long association with Time Magazine, a onetime Republican stalwart that has gone ultra-woke after its acquisition by a Silicon Valley billionaire.

Time put Harris on the cover in 2019 - "Her Case: Presidential candidate Kamala Harris fights for a path forward" - and this week there was another cover naming her and Joe Biden, bizarrely, "Person of the Year." (Are these two individuals somehow just one person? Or was Joe, as President-Elect, not significant enough to get his own Person of the Year cover?)

It's hard to know if the June tweet was Harris supporting Meghan, Harris cementing her relationship with Time Magazine, Harris promoting herself, or all of the above.

The wrong cards

Given Kamala Harris' come-up, there's little doubt that Meghan would now be eager to associate herself with the vice-president elect. 

However, as a leader-in-waiting, Harris has little incentive to annoy the Royal Family by publicly linking herself to Meghan.  

There don't seem to be any publicly-available photos of the two of them together, and there probably won't be if Harris can help it. 

Looks like Meghan's played her cards wrong again - even if she does put a Kamala Harris quote on her 2020 Christmas card. 



Comments

Enbrethiliel said…
@Girl with a Hat
Re: "One Girl, Two Vacations"

That definitely sounds like her! I wonder who the first man who had the lucky escape was . . .
jessica said…
whitewashing herself is honestly gobsmacking considering her and Harry’s repeated accusations of racism.

Also, anyone else notice her article distribution is now happening at 9pm eastern? At the end of the daily news cycle, but supposedly so other outlets pick it up for the morning rotation. Sneaky. And shows she’s not a big news story ever. Everything she does is none-news, and PR, so it’s more than curios people print her crap anyway (but attention to the trainwreck, ad clicks etc- the old internet revenue model).
Acquitaine said…
"Girl with a Hat said…
https://blindgossip.com/one-girl-two-vacations/

is this another blind about Meghan?"

Definitely Meghan.

She's a student of Diana and famously Diana did the same to convince Charles that she was the right woman for him and his family. Imagine his shock to discover that the country loving woman he had married was really a city girl who hated all things country.

I imagine Harry felt the same, but her manipulative skills are better than Diana because Harry just goes along with everything. Notice they've never done a single thing involving camping or down to earth ever since in the name of her security!!!

lizzie said…
@MustySyphone and @Enbrethiliel:

The instant lattes aren't just oatmilk though. They also contain adaptogenic herbs and mushrooms. Yum. But more importantly, according the the company's webpage, their motto is
"Dedicated to giving a shit."

Only in California (Well, only in CA in 2020. Others places in the 60s and early 70s maybe.)
Enbrethiliel said…
@Girl with a Hat
Now, when she is looking forward towards the camera, you can see the opening of her nostrils, which is a characteristic you see in Whites only.

She claimed to be Caucasian when she started working as an actress in the US, caked on the bronzer to appear more black in the UK, and is now shaving off the tip of her nose to appear white again now that she is back in the US. I'll wager that she decided to do the cosmetic procedures only after she realized she couldn't ride the BLM movement to the top.

Does this mean she has burned her last bridge with the BRF? Even if King Charles III tried to lure her back with the promise of a spot at his right hand on the balcony at Trooping and a red carpet rolled out for her wherever she goes . . . she wouldn't be able to play up the blackness the way she used to. Imagine her using the old bronzer techniques over her new nose. It would be the most laughable thing she has ever done -- and it would have stiff competition for that spot!
Button said…
Hello Nutties,
.
The reason I brought up the blouse is not because of colour or even style, but simply because The Empress chose to wear something like that The Odious one deemed that she too, can appear Royal and Empress like if she dresses similiar and parks her bony arse on an English garden bench. Also as pointed out above, The Queen made it very clear who are the senior Royals when she ' hosted ' them outside Windsor after The Duke and Duchess of Cambridges` royal train tour. Grip and Drip I think know only too well that they are no longer considered ' Royal ' and they are hanging on for dear life.
.
Odious pair.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Lizzie
But more importantly, according the the company's webpage, their motto is
"Dedicated to giving a shit."


So they're also . . . a laxative?

And fair enough about the other ingredients. I still don't see much of a market for them -- but it has been decades since I was in California! Maybe instant coffee with fancy additives is either on the rise there or the next big thing.

Yet alongside the market's preferences and the product's qualities, the size of the company makes me think it will always only cater to a niche. Even if they do grow, they won't grow much. And unless Oprah and Meghan made substantial financial investments that Clvr Blends could use to increase production, it will grow slowly.

So if @Nutty is right that this is an equity-for-endorsement deal, how much did Meghan ever expect to get? Granted, if she still has pull, it will boost their sales a bit. But will they keep most of the new customers who are just trying the coffee out of curiosity? Did she look their business plan over and believe they could really take off? It just doesn't seem like a great investment for anyone, unless you prefer to get paid in woke tokens. I'm sure an investor who truly wants to focus on small, sustainable businesses run by women could find companies with greater potential for growth -- not just in terms of revenue, but in terms of positive economic impact in their communities.

Like @MustySyphone, I await news of a Sunshine Sachs connection!
Acquitaine said, is this another blind about Meghan?"

Definitely Meghan.

She's a student of Diana and famously Diana did the same to convince Charles that she was the right woman for him and his family. Imagine his shock to discover that the country loving woman he had married was really a city girl who hated all things country...


Ouch! I never thought Diana was manipulative at that age at all. Her grandmother most certainly was. I don’t blame the young Diana, only the people around her. Megsy was a grown divorced woman when she met Harry; chalk and cheese when comparing the two women.
abbyh said…
Talking about Oprah, wasn't she doing some thing with JH about mental health which was announced sometime around Megexit and supposed to be out about now?

I looked that the packaging (about $2/serving which I was unable to find out how large each serving is) as someone mentioned that they thought it had an additive, carrageenan, which is supposed to have a lot of people react to. I did not see the additive in what information was supplied on line about ingredients.

My comment is that even at that price per serving, a bag is $28 which is out of a lot of budgets this year. If they did smaller serving bags they might be able to develop a wider fan base of people willing to taste test it.

Anonymous said…
Meghan’s continuing and persistent presence in the media makes me wonder if, should nuclear Armageddon ever occur, she will join rats and cockroaches as the only surviving species.
jessica said…
The Blind Gossip article...what they leave out is who the first suitor was. Probably a guy who made his life own money, worked hard, and had a knack for discerning who’s who in his environment. When it’s compared to her experience with self-centered Harry it’s hardly shocking they ended up together. I doubt Harry was even paying attention to *who* Meghan was. She probably pulled similar complaints but in a more joking fashion realizing she had it in the bag if she played to his boyish tendencies. Fantasy all the way.
Blogger Louise said...
Serious question: With all that plastic in her face, when Meghan dies will she be buried or put out for recycling?


Wonderful thought - but only if she has the appropriate stamps on her backside: PP for polypropylene; PE for poly(ethy)lene; and PS polystyrene...
SwampWoman said…
Blogger abbyh said...
Talking about Oprah, wasn't she doing some thing with JH about mental health which was announced sometime around Megexit and supposed to be out about now?

I looked that the packaging (about $2/serving which I was unable to find out how large each serving is) as someone mentioned that they thought it had an additive, carrageenan, which is supposed to have a lot of people react to. I did not see the additive in what information was supplied on line about ingredients.

My comment is that even at that price per serving, a bag is $28 which is out of a lot of budgets this year. If they did smaller serving bags they might be able to develop a wider fan base of people willing to taste test it.


Sounds like a CIA torture tool to me. "So, what's the interrogation schedule today?" "You're going to have an entire DAY of firehosing the prisoners." "WHY? I was supposed to be off by noon!" "Some dumbass Californian intern shared his mushroom and oat milk lattes with the prisoners and now there's sh*t everywhere."
jessica said…
Oat milk latte for $28 sounds awful. No thanks. I can’t imagine who that appeals too, but she’s gotta make some backend money some way. Even funnier they are pushing that overpriced nonsense the day she is talking about people going hungry.
@ Swamp Woman

You made me laugh again! remember we predicted she will be selling stuff on QVC? We were not far off - she is selling oat and mushroom latte. And both mushrooms and oats are known for their laxative effect due to extremely high content of insoluble fiber.

So she is investing into a mock latte for constipated people.

Nothing wrong with products to help bowel movements but seriously, did she become royal to end up selling laxatives?

Duncan said…
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Enbrethiliel said…
@Abbyh
Talking about Oprah, wasn't she doing some thing with JH about mental health which was announced sometime around Megexit and supposed to be out about now?

That's right! I wonder what happened to it. And am I right that this is the first time since Megxit that Oprah and one of the Harkles have been mentioned together in the news for some kind of joint project?

Maybe the deal with Prince Harry is off and Oprah's letting Meghan piggyback on her endorsement of Clvr Blends is a consolation prize for the Harkles.
Duncan said…
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@Lizzie

"Dedicated to giving a sh*t" sounds about right for a concoction with herbs and mushrooms. Keeps you regular I'm sure.
jessica said…
Re: Meghan’s brand.

No one in the US really knows what a ‘Meghan Markle’ is or are aware of her presence, at all. When you get to know that she is married to Prince Harry, after reading her 4th DM article deep diving into her boring typical past, I’d assume most people would think “so, you marry a prince and this is what it gets you? Full time work?!” Conflicting expectations. Who wants to relate or aspire to that?!

Doesn’t add up!
jessica said…
Puds,

Considering the only brief spike interest in Meghan gets is when a news article comes out, yes I assume she will continue to Merch things only retired people can afford (which I believe is her real target market, and explains Oprah’s plug). It also shows she doesn’t have time to really change her audience and she needs to pull in cash flow.
Happy Camper said…
New Post on Blind Gossip. Harry is obviously the man in camping trip #2 and the woman is obviously Mayhem, but who do you think is the man in camping trip #1?

BLIND GOSSIP
One Girl Two Vacations
December 14, 2020

Several years ago, a man who dated this now famous TV actress asked her to go on vacation with him.

He loved camping and the outdoors and wanted to share those activities with her.

“He said that did everything he could to try to make the experience comfortable and fun for her, but she didn’t stop complaining the whole time about the weather, the bugs, the food, no bathroom, how dirty she felt, etc.”

“She could have just adapted and enjoyed the adventure, but she didn’t. She whined the entire time and made the whole trip miserable.”

Did it impact the relationship?

“He figured out who she really was.”

“She always talked about how down-to-earth she was, but he figured out that was bogus. He said it was like she had created this character that pretended to like the outdoors and adventure but it was all fake. It was just a facade to try to impress people and get them to like her.”

It seems that the truth was she she really wanted a glamorous life but thought that pretending to be down to earth was how she was going to get there.

“He decided that she was just too phony and high maintenance for him and they broke up.”

Fast forward a few years later.

She pursued and started dating a wealthy man from a very famous family.

He asked her to go on vacation with him.

Did he ask her to go to a luxury beach resort on a private island?

Or to a fancy ski resort in The Alps?

No.

He asked her to go camping.

For some reason, though, this experience was very different from the previous time she went camping!

A different source told us:

“He was completely gobsmacked with how adventurous and down to earth and low maintenance she was. She wasn’t fussed about not being able to properly shower or bathe. She was game to use the woods as a bathroom. He really was quite impressed with her.”

In fact, he was so impressed by her behavior on this vacation that he decided she was the right girl for him… and proposed to her!

Why was the second camping trip so different from the first?

Did she mature?

Or did she actually decide that she loved roughing it and got into the spirit of things?

Or did she sharpen up her acting skills and pretend to love it because camping and nature were extremely important to him and she wanted to impress him?

Whatever the case, her strategy worked.

They got married in a huge and extravagant wedding ceremony.
And she is now living a life of total luxury.

Married Couple:

[Optional] Why do you think she behaved so differently on the second camping trip?
@Fairy Crockodile Raindrop. said
"Nothing wrong with products to help bowel movements but seriously, did she become royal to end up selling laxatives? "

Well she is full of sh*t so perhaps this helps?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Happy Camper - we've discussed that blind item previously here on this page.
Acquitaine said…
"Raspberry Ruffle said…

Ouch! I never thought Diana was manipulative at that age at all. Her grandmother most certainly was. I don’t blame the young Diana, only the people around her...."

According to Andrew Morton's ghostwritten autobiography of Diana, she came up with the country woman strategy with her flatmates. It's always wierd to me that Diana tells the world in her own voice via books and tapes of her own manipulations framed as stretegies to showcase her personal strengths to best all the adults / clever people around her and yet this stuff gets overlooked simply because she was 19yrs old or that her family were / are too enthralled to titled people to care about her.

This is a woman who repeatedly boasts of her manipulations eg sabotaging her father's romantic dates so he wouldn't remarry, abusing her stepmother and even her own father physically, boasts about succeeding at bagging Charles where Sarah her sister failed, who was ecstatic about becoming Princess of Wales on the night of her wedding as opposed to marrying The man, who tells us in clear words how she pretended to be a country loving gal during the dating years and especially at Balmoral to make Charles and his family believe she would fit in with their country ways....

.....but because it doesn't fit the accepted saintly victimhood version of Diana that she peddled, all this stuff is overlooked or excused.

And that's not to say that i excuse her blood family because they are all emotionally bereft, cold people who care for titles more than their own family members particularly that grandmother who wrecked havoc on her own daughter and granddaughter on the altar of titles and status, but that ability to be manipulative was just as present in Diana and it manifested early in her teens long before Charles showed up.





AnT said…
YOU OAT-TA KNOW:

A nutritionist friend tells me that while oat milk is the new trend, heavily promoted in oat lattes like this, it is actually much lower in protein and higher in carbs than dairy milk. Any nutrition in oat milk has to be added artificially.

It is not the natural wonder it is made out to be, without using additives. And additives can vary greatly in quality.

So Megs is promoting a high carb, low protein sort of junk food drink? Unless this is additive rich. It’s still a carb bomb.

My friend adds that she calls oat lattes a “pastry in a cup” sort of sweet drink, and they’re more a treat for “coffeehouse teens“....

The food-deprived people that’ Megs plumped her expensive, experienced lilac lips for will be pleased to know that they may not have the $28 to buy this mix, but they’re not missing much, and can find similar solace in a 99-cent mini mart donut.
Acquitaine said…
@Sally1975: I'm a terrible predictor of pregnancy, but i think given the evidence of recent surgeries i do not think she's pregnant.

However, California is full of unscrupulous doctors who will operate on a person when they should not, so it's possible.

Btw, now that i've seen her chest, i'm going to add that to the list of her new surgeries. She was never that big in the chest not even when she was post partum and at bigger weight.

It could be the style of the blouse that is creating the illusion of a bigger chest, but i think she's added new boobs.

Acquitaine said…
@puds, definitely 2 nose jobs since April 2020.

I remember seeing the implant along the top ridge of her nose from her first nosejob and wondered what that felt like. Also thought her surgeon was terrible to give her such an obvious implant.

And then later in the summer when she had a Zoom call wearing an orange top, the ridge in her nose looked crooked as if it had settled with a curve. Plus her nose looked pointy despite the curve. Very odd.

The brow lift was well done, and i think that was part of the initial improvements back in April as was the skin bleach. The teeth have been changed afew times.

Mind you, with the skin bleach it could be that she stopped using tanner/ bronzer and showed her true skin tone for the first time since she started dating Harry. She always overloaded her face whilst leaving her hands and legs pale.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Acquitaine, I once met someone who had a very large nose with very large nostrils. I was surprised to hear that she had had a nose job to reduce the size of her nose and what I saw was the improved version, not the original.

Apparently, there was only so much one could do at the time but I think that the plastic surgery techniques have progressed since then.
Duncan said…
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Louise said…
Sally said:

" @Acquitaine
LOL - I believe there were rumors she wanted to try to blame her 'miscarriage' on the stress from the MOS suit"

How can she blame the MOS for a law suit that SHE initiated??
Louise said…
Acquitaine: A nose has to settle for about a year after a rhinoplasty, as it takes that long for all the swelling to resolve entirely. It would be unusual for her to have one every three months or so.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Puds, that's not counting the chemical peels, fillers, botox and other esthetic procedures she's undergone.

Her mission to change her looks is comparable to the effort required to put a man on the moon.

Only someone who really detests herself would spend so much effort in changing her appearance. I have some imperfections, like everyone else, but I am attached to them and wouldn't dream of having them removed.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Puds

Horlicks more apt 😉
Duncan said…
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Hikari said…
@Louise

I am late raining in today but I just wanted to drop by to award you the Non-Oat milk latte of the day for your query about Meg’s final destination...the cemetery or the recycling plant. That much plastic must have a half-life of about 10,000 years, which means we are never going to be rid of this scourge. We could always chip in to blast her to the moon with all the rest of the Chinese space garbage.

Oat milk sounds vile. So it’s a suitable product for such a vile person to be pitching.

Hikari said…
Ringing in not raining in!
Hikari said…
Puds,

Is it true… There’s really a British product called “HOR-LICKS”??

How perfectly appropriate for Rachel! She’s well acquainted with that already. One of her extra special services.
Blithe Spirit said…
@Hikari,

Horlicks was very popular in India too when I was growing up. It's tasty from what I remember. That and Bournvita were staple 'nutritious' powders added to milk.
PaulaMP said…
I live in SF, and believe me, there are plenty who do not admire Kamala at all. I used to have lunch at a restaurant near City Hall and would see her and Willie there. When he wasn't with chubby blondes, his real preference. I believe he is still married after all these years. Kamala used to focus on her being of Indian descent, until it became more advantageous to be black, same as Meg. Sorry, she gets no respect from me. As for Meg and her $28 oat milk lattes, sucking up to Oprah and vice versa, well I just can't with either of them.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Hikari said...
Ringing in not raining in!


Oh, thank goodness. (Lowest humidity for the next five days is 85%)
Girl with a Hat said…
@Puds - people don't have face lifts except as a last resort these days. There is ulthera, an ultrasound device that tightens your skin. It is non-invasive. There is also radiofrequency which does the same thing but is not as effective.
Grisham said…
Idk if she had surgery or not, but I bought this stuff and it’s amazing. I think La Prarie and other high end cosmetics lines also have similar products. Effects last 12 hours iirc. I haven’t used it much since the pandemic: https://www.chanel.com/us/skincare/p/141540/le-lift-v-flash-firming-anti-wrinkle-serum/
Grisham said…
As girl with a hat says, there are many non invasive, non surgical lift products out there that are expensive and temporary.
Button said…
@Puds,
.
' I am almost feeling sorry for her '. You are a human, with human frailties, with compassion, with conscious thoughts, logic, all that makes most of us more or less normal. Yes we all have our quirky bits, but that is also our uniqueness. Megatroid is just that: Megatroid. Nothing alive, nothing genuine, no compassion, no feeling , an empty shell. As others have pointed out these are the trademarks of a narc. I think she is loosing her grip. What is absolutely mind boggling is she landed in a most coveted space, part of a true Royal Family, had immense potential to either live a life of useless luxury, or actually do a progress around her new adopted country, pretend to care and still have a life of luxury. However as others have pointed out here and other places, her sickness, that of a narc got in the way. I truly hope she falls..and falls spectacularly. She can take Raindrip with her when she goes.
SwampWoman said…
tatty said...
As girl with a hat says, there are many non invasive, non surgical lift products out there that are expensive and temporary.


"Expensive and temporary" sounds like Markle's royal vacation.
Girl with a Hat said…
The ulthera is supposed to have permanent effects. So is the radio frequency. They have better results the younger you are. They tighten the face but not overnight. They take several months to achieve their full effect.

I really hate it when this contrarian who loves to antagonize us all, twists my words.
MaLissa said…
Hello Nutties!! Well.. I've just watched that video of madam with her word salad and over the top "new face" - new nose, chin, jaws, eyebrows and cheeks? I think and yeah she may have done the boobs too. Sigh. I think she lightened her skin too. That blouse doesn't do her any favours - I thought she hated lilac and it looks positively matronly on her. But I think she's trying to emulate HRH The Duchess of Cambridge. Oh and I think she's wearing contacts... her eye colour is disturbing like hazel in the video. Either that or my eyes are really going bad.

Anyway, thought I'd drop in to say hello and catch up on the comments. Thanks for the laughs and chuckles guys :) You're awesome :)
SwampWoman said…
PaulaMP said...
I live in SF, and believe me, there are plenty who do not admire Kamala at all. I used to have lunch at a restaurant near City Hall and would see her and Willie there. When he wasn't with chubby blondes, his real preference. I believe he is still married after all these years. Kamala used to focus on her being of Indian descent, until it became more advantageous to be black, same as Meg. Sorry, she gets no respect from me. As for Meg and her $28 oat milk lattes, sucking up to Oprah and vice versa, well I just can't with either of them.


I believe that anybody that has ever worked in an organization (whether public or private), put in the hours, did the numerous boring yet effective things that lead to success, and got promotions based on their own intellect and work ethics have a similar lack of respect. Disdain, probably. Scorn? Yes, that too.
DeerAngels said…
A few items from Knockoff Duchess/monster markle. Side by side pics showing Meg's changing nose.
@Puds I agree her nose is on brink of becoming a Michael Jackson nose.
Pippa is said to be pregnant again. And Meg's is planning exclusive family article w/pics to People magazine to include the ghost called Archie. Of course they'll donate the money paid to help kids. Bingo another scheme to make money from a charitable organization. Must be really broke after all the plastic work. The Mirror BP has article stating The Duchess of Sussex is NOT a working member of the RF. When I typed in the word Duchess on this device the next word suggestion has Catherine and not Meg's.
Back to lurking.
Sylvia said…
@ Puds
Horlicks the food drink of the night.
Bournvita sleep sweeter..


Can any Nutties explain Oprah gifting a children's library to the Harkles for Archie. Would Oprah have taken on trust Archie existed?There would have been pictures of this event ?
lizzie said…
@Sylvia wrote:

"Can any Nutties explain Oprah gifting a children's library to the Harkles for Archie. Would Oprah have taken on trust Archie existed?There would have been pictures of this event ?"

I think the "library" simply consisted of a bunch of books like the Duck Rabbit one with stickers on the covers mimicking the ones on adult books for "Oprah's book club." Supposedly that is O's standard baby gift.

I send baby presents to relatives when children are born without ever seeing the children. But you are right I don't think it's ever been suggested Oprah popped in to cuddle Archie like Ellen, Hillary, or Jane G supposedly did.
Sandie said…
The comparisons between how the Cambridges and Meghan (a royal duchess!) thanked and honoured people for what they have done and still
do during the pandemic is quite marked ...

This video features others and focuses on the magic of Christmas for children, and actually features people getting stuff:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1338740576590516224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1338740576590516224%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

This one features ... the Duchess of Sussex, suspended HRH, Meghan Markle, Rachel Zane:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/13/us/meghan-markle-sussex-cnn-heroes-appearance/index.html
Sandie said…
I don't believe there is a review ... they accepted her proposal for being a half working royal as a resignation. If the door has been left ajar it is for Harry, but surely by now they must realize that he cannot be rehabilitated as a working royal, just as Andrew cannot?
Almost O/T but not quite:

Gosh - Ovaltine, Horlicks and Bournvita, a real blast from the past!

The progenitor of Ovaltine was a Swiss chemist, one Dr Wander, but it was made in Hertfordshire. I lived close to their chicken farm & factory when I was at infant school - the product was `wholesome', if calorific; it's original name was `Ovomaltine' to reference the ingredients eggs (Latin: ova) and malted barley.

I was an Ovaltinee for a while(aged 5-6); they had a dedicated spot on Radio Luxembourg on Saturday mornings IIRC (Radio L was the only commercial channel available in UK at the time, sent out from the Duchy of the same name).

Bournvita was a Cadbury's product, less sweet than drinking chocolate, malted cocoa in fact, originally made at their model factory at Bournville, B'ham.

Horlicks is certainly good for a laugh - the ads claimed that `Horlicks Guards Against Night Starvation', an invented condition from the idea that hunger prevents sleep. You can guess where that phrase went! It goes well with the Hor-licks but to be fair, Horlick is an English surname.

Compared with `oat milk lattes', they all have better food value with ref. to protein - although much of that comes from the milk one adds oneself; the sugar content is high, that would have mattered less, perhaps, in the past. MM's product sounds like very thin coffee-flavoured porridge.

Complete waste of money, although high in woke value.


BTW, Carragheenan may be called an additive but it's natural, rather like agar but extracted from a different seaweed (carragheen or Irish Moss). It has a long history of traditional use in Ireland & Scotland and elsewhere. I'm not sure about its food value.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ Puds

In other words, she is using her royal status for personal gain.

The thing Queen expressly forbidden.

If our royal family can't defend itself from a cheap z lister than it will not survive the future challenges. Sad.
Sadly, Megsie has realised that the remedies of the distant past for dealing with traitors, such as the Tower Green Haircut, are no longer available and she has been able to neutralise such sanctions as still exist by cunningly playing her various cards, which (probably) include blackmail, so they count in the US. She seems to have tied the RF's hands.

Presumably if C did cut the funding she'd scream the place down, even if she's being funded from elsewhere.

Is there any hope of her falling foul of US authorities? Where's the IRS when you need it? She needs to be thoroughly discredited but it must be done in a way that doesn't backfire on the The Firm. Tricky.
Fairy Crocodile said, In other words, she is using her royal status for personal gain.

I hate saying it, but Fergie did it for years and still is (the Royal family has never shut her down that I know of) only Megsy is 100 times worse. At least on Sarah is a nicer and kinder person.
Magatha Mistie said…

Oatis Dregging

Harry’s new venture, rolling his oats
Has Megsie out flogging, to see if it floats
Will it be served on the side, with Megflix
Roasted groat blend, a not so clevr Horlicks







Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
If the door has been left ajar it is for Harry, but surely by now they must realize that he cannot be rehabilitated as a working royal, just as Andrew cannot?

I'm still thinking of the Harkles' wedding photo remaining in the Morning Room as a sign of Prince Charles's vision for his future reign -- and more importantly, why he can't let it go.

Prince Harry wasn't the only one Meghan love-bombed by appealing to his secret image of himself ("Good King Harry"). I believe she got Charles's number as well and understood that an "old fogey" king might secretly worry about how he is perceived by his younger subjects. And perhaps he felt threatened by Prince William and Catherine the way he once felt with Diana. In this light, Meghan's inability to get along with the Cambridges may have actually been a point in her favor. Charles would have imagined her siding with him and strengthening his own "brand" rather than helping to eclipse him as a member of the younger "Fab Four." That pitch of hers "to modernize the monarchy" might have been offensive to everyone else, but it was the best thing she could have said to the insecure Charles.

And if Meghan had been a team player and halfway decent person, she really might have been an asset to him. A biracial American woman rolling up her sleeves and pitching in might have appealed to some subjects with republican leanings (not to mention unsatisfied members of the Commonwealth countries). Meghan's arrival must have seemed to Prince Charles like the beginning of a whole new era -- the first herald of the Carolingian reign. No wonder he was so willing to walk her down the nave.

Anyone who has ever been "future faked" by a skilled narcissist knows how hard it is to let something like that go. Without Meghan, Charles is back to being the "transition king" between his formidable mother and his handsomer, energetic eldest son.

Anyway, if it's that hard for Charles to let go of the vision of the future that Meghan spun for him, imagine how hard it is for him to let go of his own vision of the future with Prince Harry. I believe he simply can't imagine moving forward without his younger son. Circling back to @Sandie's question, I think that Prince William understands very clearly that his brother is now at his uncle's pariah level. But Prince Charles does not.
Sandie said…
Interesting ...

Megsie has not appeared on the Clevr Blends (sp?) website, nor was she directly named in that infomercial done by Oprah, nor has she appeared in any advertisements. She has released a statement, heavily worded as a plug for the brand, saying she had invested and using her royal title, Duchess of Sussex, but toeing the line in not using the HRH.

In her mind, she is sticking to the rules, but unnamed palace sources have told journalists that the deal concerns them.

Why? Peter Phillips and his sister Zara Tindall have openly done product endorsement deals and, with Peter, there was a clear link to royalty in the advertisements. Peter and Zara do not work for The Firm nor represent it officially. Same with the Sussexes. Peter and Zara do not have titles, royal or otherwise. The Sussexes do have royal titles, but how royal are they without the HRH? Peter and Zara have not made any pledge to uphold the values of the Queen. The Sussexes have (but it should not be news to anyone that they cannot be trusted - I wonder if they are regretting that ridiculous manifesto?).

Technically, Megsie is not breaking any rules at all. But, it is messy and contraversial ... Megsie's trademark.

I do keep insisting that there is no 12-month review and that Megsie is out for good but a door may have been left ajar for Harry, in an ambiguous way. Megsie is not jeopardizing anything, other than continual funding, but her actions may be jeopardizing Harry's future.

Clevr Blends is very woke and their connection with Megsie is going to bring them a lot of unwelcome scrutiny (hence the women-led company has been exposed as actually having a male as co-founder and co-owner) but there must be a market for the product ... it may be niche, hence the exorbitant price, but they could have a nice business going there. The investment is not going to bring Megsie the huge amount of money she spends, so it comes across to me as more of a hobby that may pay for some of the small jewellery she loves to purchase. She needs Harry and his money. What is he going to do to bring in the billions for wifey?

The commercialization of the Sussex brand should not surprise anyone as that was the main reason they fled.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/1338537127966109698

Richard Palmer's latest tweets are quite interesting.
Magatha Mistie said…

The Grinders Special

cafe au laid
Sandie said…
@Enbrethiliel

Thanks for your post about Charles and the wedding photo post. You make a very convincing argument for why Charles would want the Sussexes back in the fold.

There is a long history of American women marrying into the British aristocracy and being a huge asset. Think Downton Abbey! Meghan obviously was not of the same calibre, but she can put on an act and perhaps Charles still does not get it!

I have just watched the recently made two-part documentary on the Queen's children. Charles himself has been enmeshed in huge scandals that eclipse anything the Sussexes have done and he not only survived but has thrived with Camilla. So, yes, he could think that the Sussexes can come back, be rehabilitated, and be an asset.

Prince Phillip has said that the Queen is the most tolerant person he knows. But does she think the Sussexes can just walk back in and be a huge asset? I doubt that she got to know Meghan or even spent much time in her company and I don't know if she is a quick study of people. She probably relies on the advice of and information from others. I can imagine Charles and William telling her very different things. Who is more of an influence with her? Or will the return of the Sussexes have to wait until Charles is king, and what sort of deal will he give them?
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Puds said...
Could it get worse. From a DM commenter it seems that the product Megs is promoting and selling is a "multi level marketing scheme, rather, than be an investor Megan has probably signed up as an affiliate on 15 % commission". Isn't that a fancy way of saying its a pyramid scheme where those at the top get very rich and those at the bottom usually women get into debt. If so It's the sort of get rich scheme con artist and grifters love, nothing Woke about it,and Megs has dragged the BRF into it.



I don't think you have to worry about the reputation of the BRF in the context of the MM manipulations. Look at it as an indicator that every door that she thought would be magically opened to her wasn't. She has to be able to generate an income somehow and, if* she has the funds to invest in a number of companies, maybe this is her ticket to financial independence.

What has me scratching my head in puzzlement (and maybe it is just because the coffee without oatmilk or mushrooms hasn't kicked in yet) is why she thinks that this is a great product and that she should invest in the company. I imagine that it is going to be marketed to women (and men) that have to be extremely thin and suffer hunger pangs. The fiber and carrageenan would give their stomach the illusion that they've been fed; however, the carb content would cause an insulin dump that would probably make them feel hungrier.

I'm way behind on the latest trends. Maybe y'all could catch me up. Whatever happened to kale, avocado, celery, and spinach smoothies?

*If she has the funds to invest in start-up companies for a share in future revenues, where did the money come from? Who is going to oversee the investment? Not my problem; just one of those things that I wonder about.
Harris Jones said…
Oprah does do merch, she has (or had) a 100 favorite Christmas gifts list. Once it featured a small shop here in Vermont and business was booming
Girl with a Hat said…
Oprah's book club is all about merching. She only has to mention a book and it becomes a best seller.
Harris Jones said…
Also, if Meghan was really pregnant wouldn't she have jumped on the lose the baby weight bandwagon and also the postpartum depression bandwagon (not to condemn those women who genuinely suffer)
lizzie said…
@Enbrethiliel,

I agree with @Sandie that your post about Charles makes sense.

But I don't see how welcoming H&M back would really help Charles. Defenders of the monarchy and the RF don't like what H&M have done to TQ or to the country. And most "sugars" who do like them, don't like Charles or the RF and some don't much care for the UK, it seems.

IF Charles did welcome them back he might get a brief burst of sugar approval and approval from clueless people who weren't paying attention and actually thought racism played a role in how M was treated in the UK. But unless Charles was willing to give them center stage at every opportunity and elevate them above himself and Will and Kate, something he can't do even if he wanted to, strong sugar disapproval and cries of racism will surely quickly follow.

If all H&M wanted was alot of money and luxury in exchange for a low level of fairly easy part-time work (the deal they had before that looked pretty good to many "normal" working people), it might be doable for Charles. But in addition to money and luxury, they want to be the stars of the show---on their own terms, of course, with lots of "privacy" on demand which is just code for "no criticism." They also want to be able to speak out/preach about political and societal issues. That's never going to work and at some level, Charles must know that.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Puds
From a DM commenter it seems that the product Megs is promoting and selling is a "multi level marketing scheme, rather, than be an investor Megan has probably signed up as an affiliate on 15 % commission".

I don't know if I ever mentioned it here, but I really do see Meghan becoming the spokesperson of an MLM product in the future! I occasionally lurk in the subreddit r/antiMLM and everything about the sales tactics and the upline tactics reminds me of Meghan.

Clvr Blends as an MLM actually makes a lot of sense. It just doesn't strike me as a competitive product, even in its own niche. Its best bet is to convince people who are looking for a side hustle to buy "starter packs" worth, say, $1000 and to start signing up new members so they get bonuses. The ones who get dazzled by the pitch that the oatmilk lattes will "practically sell themselves" will be down $1000 -- and probably more, if they're convinced to keep adding to their inventory -- but that's a successful sale for the owner at the top of the pyramid.

If it weren't for Thomas Markle's connections and willingness to give his daughter everything she asked, Meghan might be just another MLM "hun" today. If Clvr Blends is indeed an MLM, I'm not at all surprised that she has finally found her "tribe."
KC said…


 Midge said...

That dark line down the middle of her nose is still there - is that from plastic surgery?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9050073/Meghan-Markle-praises-quiet-heroes-feeding-hungry-amid-pandemic.html

December 14, 2020 at 4:57 PM

 tatty said...

@midge I always thought that was a line of freckles.

December 14, 2020 at 5:10 PM


Hmmm, tatty it seems to me to be too solid a line for a line of freckles. And there is one smaller one on the front of her nose in CNN pics...sort of blue gray. The marks have fairly even edges, maybe from a nose job? Her face, her choice but hope it is her money or Harry's paying for it.
SwampWoman said…
Magatha Mistie said: The Grinders Special

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ROFLOLOL!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie and @Lizzie

Thanks!

Lizzie, I agree that Meghan is actually a huge liability for Prince Charles. The problem is that he really can't see it. The poor man simply believes Meghan's hype. And because of one successful image rehabilitation in the past (Camilla's), he might think he can pull off another.

Right now, there are better odds for the scales falling from Prince Harry's eyes than from his father's. And these odds will remain stable for a while yet.
Girl with a Hat said…
look who Meghan copied her look from this time - the Empress of Japan in her lavender blouse

https://twitter.com/teatime2u/status/1338427247288414208
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
If she has the funds to invest in start-up companies for a share in future revenues, where did the money come from?

My guess is that it's all smoke and mirrors. Meghan isn't an investor as much as she is an endorser -- but of course it sounds better to say that she is the former. (Heck, even I grudgingly approved of it!) So Clvr Blends is actually paying her for support.

If this truly is the case, then it answers the question of "Why Clvr Blends?" Meghan partnered with them because they approached her first and she had nothing else going for her.

Yesterday, I predicted that Investor Barbie Meghan would add no more than one other business to her woke portfolio. Today I'd like to walk that back and say that Clvr Blends is it. The first and the last. For Meghan isn't actually looking for small businesses to invest in, but for companies that will pay her to use her name in their press releases. And now that Clvr Blends has taken the plunge with her, all the other small business owners in America will see in real-time what the support of the Duchess of Sussex is actually worth.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

My mother and grandmother always recalled Ovaltine with great approval. My mother was a very active, very thin little child and my grandmother worried she would get sick, as she had been born with a heart murmur and had had a bout of rheumatic fever at age three or four. Every morning with her breakfast, my grandmother gave her a mug of goat’s milk and a little demitasse of weak coffee, and then, every evening, a mug of Ovaltine before bed. My mother said it made her feel special to receive such attention, as she was the youngest of four children of a busy widowed mother who was also running a thriving fine dress shop.

I think Ovaltine was a good memory of a difficult time period before her mother remarried. She made us have the Ovaltine on cold winter nights growing up as well, praising it for all her childhood energy and survival. I wasn’t a fan, and after she watched me take a few obedient sips, and after she left the playroom and I heard her going down the stairs, I would open a side window and dump the rest into the snowy garden below. Now I feel guilty just thinking about that!
AnT said…
@Enbrethiliel,

Of course. MM thinks she is a world treasure. To her, an investment is her mere presence, or a few golden words from her lips.

The DM had an article today about Oprah’s endorsement being worth a million dollars.

I am sure MM thinks her endorsement is worth twice that. This broke old girl isn’t handing out twenty dollar bills to anyone.
AnT said…
@Enbrethiliel,

PS - that Barbie Meghan thing yesterday was hilarious and so perfect. I meant to say so but kept getting sidetracked. Now my fear is, she or SS read here and will be trying to license a line of Princess Barbie Meghan dolls, complete with interchangeable handbag husbands.
AnT said…
@Magatha,

May I second the motion of your “cafe au laid” as genius. You are like an exquisitely crafted sharp poetic knife, revealing the core.

I salute you yet again. More, please!
lizzie said…
@Enbrethiliel wrote:

"I agree that Meghan is actually a huge liability for Prince Charles. The problem is that he really can't see it...."

I both agree and disagree with the way you described that part of the Charles saga.

What I was trying to say before is I'm not sure if Charles really can't see it, or if it's that emotionally he doesn't want to see it (not the same as can't see it to me.) I think he's always assumed he'd have his sons at his side as king despite some periods of friction with them both.

During all the years that dimwit, lazy, goof-off Prince Harry has been propped up by the RF, it's pretty unlikely anyone would have/could have foreseen Just Harry living in a place like Mudslide Manor with a wife like M, and a "ghost child" that no one, including Charles, ever sees. I doubt anyone would have thought PH would ever publicly criticize the Commonwealth the way he did and appear to confuse it with The Empire. I also expect that while they knew Harry wasn't the best public speaker (often doesn't enunciate clearly, says "ain't" and so on) I doubt anyone connected with the RF could have anticipated seeing him spout his raindrop version of word salad.

Harry did periodically speak about stepping down prior to meeting M but his idea of stepping down (and probably the RF's including Charles's) was that he would be "pensioned off" at a luxury level or take long "sabbaticals" and spend time in various countries, mostly in Africa. But he wouldn't be entirely gone and he'd remain available and appropriate enough to be used for certain appearances without worry (like TOC) and for certain kinds of work (like conservation, Sentebale, maybe even the IG) I expect in his mind Charles thought he would always be able to call on Harry if he really needed to. I think that's what he can't let go of.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Lizzie

You help me make my stance more nuanced. Thanks. I agree that it's really Prince Harry whom Prince Charles wants back and without whom he can't imagine his reign. (The idea to send the Harkles to Africa or to various Commonwealth countries was likely a detailed plan that had been drawn up for Harry years before.) And then along came Meghan, who was was canny enough to figure all this out and carve a niche for herself in Charles's existing vision.
luxem said…
I think the MeMe should hand over the first "e" in Archewell to the Clevr Blends people so that both names can be spelled the way people pronounce them. The spellings are annoying.

Here is a statement from the Clevr Blends founder (Harper's Bazaar):

"Entrepreneurs need funding, but they also need advisers who care deeply about what they are building. I'm grateful to have found both in the Duchess of Sussex," read the statement from Mendoza. "Her passion for what we're creating is palpable, and I couldn't imagine a more aligned partnership. We're excited for the road ahead."

Adviser? Yep, this company is going to be Markled for sure. Wait until MeMe advises to put her picture on the package with the caption - Favorite Drink of Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

Lavender Blouse - The style is similar to the "pussy bow" blouses worn by Kamala, Catherine, etc, but I think the main purpose in wearing it was to draw the eye up and the voluminous fabric distracted from the larger breasts/abdomen of a pregnancy. Yes, I think she is pregnant and the miscarriage in July was an IVF fail. July was the month her lawyers were arguing in court about releasing the names of her friends and she likely blamed the stress for her miscarriage (even though the failure rate of IVF is high).

Being pregnant with a high-risk pregnancy is the most logical reason for the delay of her court date, so easily accepted by the Court/ANL. Releasing the miscarriage story and making sure to mention July sets up the victim narrative and teases as to what is upcoming.

Getting pregnant was not her first plan for millions in CA, but the pandemic, over-valuation of her abilities and the losing direction of her lawsuit led to a Plan B. Archie was via a surrogate and hence no title. Divorce from Harry means losing her title. So she births a baby with royal blood and can live vicariously through her son/daughter's title, as well as child support for 18 years.

(I can't imagine any US court forcing her to give up joint custody, regardless of Monarchy rules about grandchildren. However, I could see her pull a "Kelly Rutherford" and try and force a full-custody arrangement for more money)
Girl with a Hat said…
@luxem, the lavender blouse is an identical copy to the lavender blouse of the Japanese Empress in the twitter link I gave above. Identical.
Girl with a Hat said…
@luxem, the Japanese empress then also looks pregnant because she looks the same as Meghan but I believe she's too old to be expecting a child.
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel said: Lizzie, I agree that Meghan is actually a huge liability for Prince Charles. The problem is that he really can't see it. The poor man simply believes Meghan's hype. And because of one successful image rehabilitation in the past (Camilla's), he might think he can pull off another.

Right now, there are better odds for the scales falling from Prince Harry's eyes than from his father's. And these odds will remain stable for a while yet.


As an intelligent man, Prince Charles should know when somebody is blowing smoke at him. He is a savvy businessman and has stuck to his vision for the Duchy when he was the only one that believed in it. I don't believe that he is a pushover.

I think that he does worry about his youngest son making a spectacle of himself in CA. I believe that he wants Harry back where a fatherly eye can be kept on his activities, and who can blame him? His mental deficits will be known to his father. However, no matter how well intentioned the family are, they can't force a person to be treated.

I would think that Prince Charles has been immunized from people purveying false personas by Diana. I can imagine his private horror at watching his youngest son succumb to the blandishments of a faux Diana. If Harry is as volatile a personality as has been reported, PC knew that nothing that he would say would make a difference; in fact, it would only make JCMH more determined to do the opposite. The door is left slightly ajar for if JCMH needs to return.
ReallyDonna said…
Archewell Audio

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Harry and Meghan, are the next big names to commit themselves to Spotify’s podcast empire. The two, along with Spotify, announced the podcasting deal today, along with the news that they’ve launched their own audio production company called Archewell Audio. Harry and Meghan will host their own podcasts and produce other shows, which haven’t been detailed. Their shows will launch next year, although a holiday special featuring the couple and other guests will be available this month. Harry’s podcast might focus on veteran issues while Meghan’s looks more at gender equality.


https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/15/22176014/prince-harry-meghan-markle-podcast-spotify-exclusive-archewell-audio

ReallyDonna said…
“What we love about podcasting is that it reminds all of us to take a moment and to really listen, to connect to one another without distraction,” the Duke and Duchess said in a joint statement. “With the challenges of 2020, there has never been a more important time to do so, because when we hear each other, and hear each other’s stories, we are reminded of how interconnected we all are.”
Girl with a Hat said…
they like social media if they are in the form of podcasts now?
Acquitaine said…
@Swampwoman: I rather enjoy Tatler Magazine's summation of Charles's alleged pithy comment on the matter,"Harry is C***Struck!!!". Nothing Charles can do until that situation changes.

Here is link to entire delicious article: https://www.tatler.com/article/meghan-markle-mania
Grisham said…
Girl with a hat, how long did you think they would be married? Did you think she would be gone by now?

You say “contrarian” I say “realist”...
Grisham said…
KC, it could be from surgery. I mentioned freckles because I have a line of freckles on my eyelid that drives me insane because it makes it look like I have a random dark line there. It’s hard to cover up with make up.

I thought it was freckles on her nose, but it could be something else.
Acquitaine said…
A podcast for people who do not listen nor have any views about anything nor can hold an actual conversation.
AnT said…

issuing “a joint statement” about podcasts is like going on official record about your views on toes.

Grisham said…
The picture of Empress Masako in the lavender silk blouse was published on December 9, 2020.

MM’s appearance on CNN on December 13 was taped 2 weeks ago supposedly, so she isn’t copying the empress. (At any rate, it wasn’t a live appearance)

It’s obvious silk blouses with pussy bows are in style right now. It’s like when we used to go to fine dining before the pandemic... every freaking restaurant had the same specials. Everyone had bruschetta on Texas toast or everyone had lobster bisque in a tomato cream sauce, or sweetbreads etc. Things run in cycles.

I credit Melania with bringing back the pussy bow blouse.

So maybe I am a contrarian... Just trying to keep everyone honest when things are easily proven to be incorrect. Some of you admit hating her so much that you are blinded with anger/disgust or whatever other things you all have said. That disgust blinds some of you to say things that aren’t true. That you likely know isn’t true. (Facelifts aren’t even permanent). .

As for the Harlkes, I suspect Charles and even possibly the queen have given them money. I think they are better off in Cali, for everyone’s sake. I think it is much better for William that they are in California. I hope he realizes that now. I expect nothing new or interesting will happen at the one year meeting (if there even is such a meeting and not an email). I don’t expect their HRH will be taken away, but kept the same as now with them agreeing not to use it.

Louise said…
Girl with a Hat said...

"@luxem, the lavender blouse is an identical copy to the lavender blouse of the Japanese Empress in the twitter link I gave above. Identical."

I looked at the blouses side by side and noted that the pleats coming from the neck line were different.
Enbrethiliel said…
@ReallyDonna
Harry’s podcast might focus on veteran issues while Meghan’s looks more at gender equality.

Yes, because that improvised wreath laying ceremony went so well for Harry and Meghan did that "chat" with forgotten-but-not-gone Gloria Steinem that inspired millions of young women all over the world.

Having said that, I'd actually welcome some fresh content from the Harkles! It has been a while since they launched anything into the real world. (The varying levels of success of the each venture being beside the point.) For months they've just been teasing things or sending out trial balloons that have been child's play to shoot down. It would be nice to have a proper target again, like the Forces for Change Vogue issue or the Smart Works Capsule Collection.

But I don't think I'm getting my wish. They'll probably release that "holiday special featuring the couple and other guests" as another trial balloon, realize they don't have enough of an audience to make a regular podcast (much less two!) worthwhile, and then come up with some reason for the Spotify deal falling through. Or they'll "reveal" that they really only wanted to be producers and piggyback on an actual creative person's work. Meghan was done with journalism after one Vogue issue and ghosted Smart Works after that overhyped launch. A podcast is more of a long-term commitment. I don't see her being able to sustain her own interest in it.
ReallyDonna said…
@AnT--This was in regards to their own podcast on Archewell Audio. More self promotion. Editorializing because they have no actual content. Another meh.
AnT said…
@luxom,

Somehow, I keep hearing a missing last bit of that Clevr statement in my head:

“We are excited for the road ahead, my male partner and I. The up to date food business knowledge of a failed cable actress who slept with a chef and got millions for salad tossing the Queen’s grandson must be enormous. We happily gave her our last bit of start up money and a 25% stake upfront for her future work on finding us new kindness markets of change, or something.”
ReallyDonna said…
@Enbrethiliel Yes, brilliant synopsis. To tag on to what you have already laid out in your post, the two of them really don't have any particular talent or skill that would translate into interesting podcast hosts. PH is a bit of a mumbler in my opinion, that alone would turn me off from tuning in. MM never seems to say anything of real substance. She leads you into thinking she has something profound to announce, and then it floats away like aioli farts.

I'm truly starting to think that Eugenie and Jack moved out of Froggy just to disassociate themselves from these two jackals.
Jdubya said…
Archewell Audio - newest thing - on spotify - i'm listening to a sample of it on LSA.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-6087

copy & paste the above link and go down to a post by LIverBird - post #182596 and hit play.

My goodness - they are really on a roll.

this is a link for the article on the deal
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-spotify-podcasts-1234853387/
Grisham said…
@reallydonna I agree that I dont see how podcasts would be for them.

I have noticed, however, when Harry gets on a zoom call, how the other participants get giant smiles on their faces.

Once everyone gets vaccinated and the pandemic is “over”, I would expect their money will be in public appearances, producing and now I guess investments in start ups.

AnT said…
@ReallyDonna,

Yes, I know. Sorry if I wasn’t clear: was trying to say their statement and content are nothing new, stuff like that has been out there forever on a billion podcasts, about as novel and groundbreaking as toes.

I cannot imagine people clamouring to listen.
ReallyDonna said…
A trailer clip of Archewell Audio was published today, accompanied by a short description which reads: 'Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex and Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, present Archewell Audio. Coming soon to Spotify.'

The slickly-produced and heavily-scripted Spotify trailer featuring the Sussexes was released online this afternoon.

It opens with Harry saying to his wife: 'Ladies first' before his Meghan says: 'No you say it first because I think it sounds really nice with your accent'.

The Duke of Sussex then says: 'Archewell Audio' and they say together: 'Let's do it'.

Prince Harry then says: 'Hi guys, I'm Harry' before Meghan says: 'And I'm Meghan', with both choosing not to use their royal titles.

Meghan then says: 'One of the things my husband and I have always talked about is our passion for meeting people and hearing their stories. And no matter what the story they usually offer an understanding of where someone else is coming from. And in some way, remind you of a story about yourself'.

Harry continues: 'And that is what this story is all about. To bring forward different perspectives and voices that perhaps you haven't heard before. And find our common ground. Because when that happens change really is possible'.

The Duchess of Sussex says that the podcasts will be about 'finding kindness and compassion, something we saw in some many places this year'.

She adds: 'It will underlie everything you here on Archewell Audio - so that's what we're up to'.

From the DM.
Grisham said…
@jdubya, I’m podcast challenged, what is Spotify and do I have to pay for it?
Jdubya said…
I don't have spotify. i think it is a streaming thing. so i'm, no help for you Tatty
Grisham said…
Ok. I listened to the clip. I don’t know what to think. They have pleasant voices. I’m not into podcasts, but I know many who are (including my sibling in California who always tries to get me to listen).

Who likes podcasts here? Like do you listen in the car, while doing chores, etc? What is the nature of a podcast?

I’m off to google.

Also, as an aside, you all will be getting a break soon as my surgery is upcoming. @Jenns it’s your time to shine lol. I’ll likely be gone for a few weeks. Merry Christmas, Happy Holiday and Happy New Year.
Sandie said…
@tatty
Spotify is a streaming audio service, primarily for music but it does feature podcasts as well. It is not free. Like Netflix, you have to have a prescription to access their content.

https://www.spotify.com/za/premium/?utm_source=za-en_brand_contextual-mobile_text&utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_campaign=alwayson_emea_za_performancemarketing_core_brand+contextual-mobile+text+exact+za-en+google&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2uH-BRCCARIsAEeef3kRoTa_FZRQcWtMs-iYZ9T7iu5I_M6yvnFyNYTRAImhuzP_ooyKQOAaApAGEALw_wcB

Since when have the Sussexes ever listened? They have their talking points and agenda and their Zoom appearances are all about that, no matter who they are talking to.

Supposedly Spotify is aimed at youngsters. I have heard opposing arguments on how influential the Sussexes are with youngsters.
Louise said…
Tatty: I don't think of myself as a contrarian. I was only correcting what I believed to be a factual error.
Grisham said…
@louise, I was joking.😜
Sandie said…
@tatty

Best wishes to the festive season to you to. I assume that you have family to take care of festivities and you ... the surgery is happening darn close to Christmas!
Grisham said…
@sandie, thanks. I’ll have to ask my college kids about Spotify.
Louise said…

Blogger ReallyDonna said...

"A trailer clip of Archewell Audio was published today, accompanied by a short description which reads: 'Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex and Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, present Archewell Audio. Coming soon to Spotify.'"


"Meghan then says: 'One of the things my husband and I have always talked about is our passion for meeting people and hearing their stories. And no matter what the story they usually offer an understanding of where someone else is coming from. And in some way, remind you of a story about yourself'."


Hahaha. She likes to hear other people's stories because , in the end, it reminds her of a story about herself. Yup, that's Markle.. me, myself and I.
Grisham said…
@sandie, yes, it’s why I’m having it done later this week... I’ll have 3 home to drive me to PT, and uni doesnt resume until end of January because of the expected bump in Covid cases after the holidays, so I’ll have help until I’m able to drive myself. Thanks.
Sandie said…
https://open.spotify.com/show/7kz7cRLYAcPiWxqiKw1nlG?nd=1

Seems you have to download the Spotify app to listen to their promo. I didn't!
Harris Jones said…
well we need a little Christmas, right this very minute
Enbrethiliel said…
@Luxem
I think the MeMe should hand over the first "e" in Archewell to the Clevr Blends people so that both names can be spelled the way people pronounce them.

Hilarious! I must have typed "Clvr" ten times today and it was annoying each time.
@ Raspberry Raffle

You are correct pointing out Fergie also used her royal title to benefit financially.

There are differences too. Fergie is divorced. I am not aware of a single member of the royal family who is so shameless and open in making money out of the royal title as the Harkles.

Fergie has always stayed in the background after her divorce. Most of reports of her activities are due to the media digging, not her own PR chasing media with info about her "charities".

Fergie never slighted the queen and never played victim, neither she blamed media and people for her own mistakes.

Between Fergie and the Harkles I will always take Fergie, because her hypocrisy and greed, although existing and obvious, are not wrapped into "feminism", "equality" and "kindness" tinsel.

I am interested to know what you think about Harkle vs Fergie?
Enbrethiliel said…
Re: Spotify

I use the free version of Spotify on my laptop. It includes the podcasts. If there is some content one can't access without a subscription, I'm not aware of it. As far as I can tell, I have access to everything that premium users do; I just have to put up with a bunch of advertisements.
Sandie said…
@tatty

As for the virus ... Nutty had a blog for the virus and that is where I got to know SwampWoman. She has extensive and excellent advice on how to protect yourself. In a hospital setting they may not be as effective, but worth a try anyway!

I have to go to big town this week and am alarmed at how cases have been increasing exponentially in my area. When I use hand sanitizer, I put it on all exposed skin. People look at me as if I am mad, but I could have walked through a cloud of virus that is now crawling all over my skin!
Hikari said…
Re. Charles & Harkle-gate

Charles's unpopularity is down to the disastrous marriage with Diana. Prior to that, as fantastical as it seems today, Charles was quite the catch. He had a brief and glorious period (the 1970s), following on the heels of his triumphant investiture as Prince of Wales, when he enjoyed an era of being a playboy prince, and the standard bearer for 'the new generation of Royals'. Diana was not the only schoolgirl with a poster of the PoW on her wall. The chubby, awkward and bookish child had transformed himself into an athlete, a sportsman and a naval officer. For as much as he was derided for going bald at his wedding, at 72, Charles has still got more hair than both of his kids, or his youngest brother. Perception of him changed after Diana, for the worse. He is concerned about his legacy, which is tied into his unfavorable image, which unfortunately for him, despite having been a tireless Prince of Wales and tried his utmost to give his long wait for the top job meaning, he can't shake. He was 27 years old when he founded the Prince's Trust, and by that point he'd already commanded his own ship, travelled the world extensively and assumed the Duchy of Cornwall responsibilities. He's got his father's intellectual, artistic and sporting interests . .having cultivated them perhaps in hopes of winning over the paternal unit--but his temperament is closer to his mother's. If the Queen is the most tolerant person PP knows, Charles is similar. Coupled with the tolerance is an aversion for confrontation and an intrinsic hope that negative situations will dissipate on their own if ignored long enough. The Harkles are one such. If they had not so rashly released their 'manifesto' on the Internet so precipitately, they might have successfully applied for a 'gap year' from Royal duties and been able to come back. But that was never going to satisfy Markle. Charles is in a hard spot. As the heir-in-waiting and the one in control of the purse strings which fund his wayward younger son and wife, it is in his political interest to be seen to renounce them. But what father with any heart could easily do this? I do think Charles carries a burden of guilt over Harry in particular because of what happened to Diana. William, the elder, prepared from youngest childhood to one day be in charge, has proven the more resilient one, even though his mother once expressed the idea that she thought William too soft a spirit for the crown and thought her younger son was the tougher one. She was dead wrong. Harry may have 'acted' tougher, in terms of abusing courtiers and horses and being a naughty little sh*t. William was more reserved in his demeanor, more cognizant of the responsibilities of his role as a Royal prince in the way Harry never was. Harry is all of Charles's failures as a parent made manifest, and if Charles can't cast him off completely now, it's out of hope that he can somehow still redeem the c*ck up he's made of Harry's upbringing. But, though I do hold Charles personally responsible *to a degree*, the current state of Harry is not all Charles's doing. Once one is a (presumptive) adult man of 36 years of age, one has to own up to his own contributions to his failures.

Oh, for a time machine, to go back to 1998 . . Instead of being sent to Eton, there to compete with his popular older brother and the cream of Britain's youth, where academically he was never going to make it, Harry should have been sent to a dude ranch in Australia to do some hard physical labor out of the public eye. He could have been tutored there and carved out his own niche out of William's shadow. Such an adolescence might have produced a real soldier and an authentic conservationist instead of the empty poseur & hedonist he became.

Hikari said…
Charles has a rough road ahead, and I do not envy him it. Maybe come March we will have more clarity about where the Harkles stand, vis. any vestige of family connection or financial support. If Charles keeps a wedding portrait of the couple in his office, that is his right. It's probably one of the few recent legitimate photos of his son which he's got. Once he is monarch and gets to decide whose photos go on the desk for the Christmas speech . . I don't expect to see this photo. It will be years out of date by then and unless Harry gives us a miracle and decides to come back to his family, chastened and willing to muck in as befits his demotion in status, I don't expect Charles to have others to display.

@Swampwoman wrote:

As an intelligent man, Prince Charles should know when somebody is blowing smoke at him. He is a savvy businessman and has stuck to his vision for the Duchy when he was the only one that believed in it. I don't believe that he is a pushover.

I think that he does worry about his youngest son making a spectacle of himself in CA. I believe that he wants Harry back where a fatherly eye can be kept on his activities, and who can blame him? His mental deficits will be known to his father. However, no matter how well intentioned the family are, they can't force a person to be treated.

I would think that Prince Charles has been immunized from people purveying false personas by Diana. I can imagine his private horror at watching his youngest son succumb to the blandishments of a faux Diana. If Harry is as volatile a personality as has been reported, PC knew that nothing that he would say would make a difference; in fact, it would only make JCMH more determined to do the opposite. The door is left slightly ajar for if JCMH needs to return.


I tend to agree. I think he's biding his time, at least until next year. He still has to defer to his boss, the Queen, in his 'official' reaction to the Harkle shenanigans. I'm sure privately he still holds out hope that Harry will come to his senses. If so, that would be more a fond, nostalgic hope than a realistic possibility. If William of all people has washed his hands of Harry, that is not a promising sign. Harry might drag himself back to the family eventually but he's not going to be in good shape when he does.

Hikari said…
I don't doubt that Meg turned her faux-coquette charms on Charles in the early going. I'm not sure he was still under any sort of charmed spell when he turned her out of his own birthday party just days after escorting her down the aisle at her wedding. Or when he told her in no uncertain terms that there would be no tiara for her at a state dinner in Fiji no matter how much she wheedled. I think that at heart Charles is both too well-meaning and too well-mannered to be as curt with her as he probably needs to be. It was really short-sighted of him to get Lord Geidt removed from the Queen's service because Charles's own naturally soft tendencies make it even more essential that he have a 'Walsingham' to deal with just such a situation as this. In removing this perceived threat to his authority as PoW (in collusion with Andrew--in what must be the first and only time they ever agreed on anything), he's deprived himself of a valuable weapon in this battle. Lord G. could have been the hatchet man, allowing Chas to keep himself at a remove.

Shame on the Queen in that instance for allowing her children to dictate who and who would not serve as her own Private Secretary. All because Chuck and Andy had their feathers ruffled. Lord G. was too much Tommy Lascelles to be run over, and the Queen needed him by her side.

OK, so Charles often does things which are not in his best interest. It's hard to know exactly what his assessment of Meg is at this point in time. He's got to see that she has been a toxic influence on Harry since Day 1. It was he who coined 'Tungsten'. This could be read both ways . . as a compliment or as a derogatory label in that understated British sense of humor that led to Mummy sending Wallis's funeral car to pick up the new bride. In the now infamous footage of Haz and Mess making asses of themselves at Charles's investiture commemoration, Tungsten lives up to her name by parking herself in the doorway and trying to talk to Charles as he walked past her. He pauses and looks back, and says something to her, probably along the lines of 'You're not supposed to be here' . . but he was the *only* person who acknowledges them in any way. He was the guest of honor and he paused to speak to her. No one else even looks at them. They are invisible, and ignoring Meg, especially when she's wrapped herself up like a 'hugely pregnant' present in gold and silver foil is no small feat.

Hikari said…
I think this is Charles's nature--he's got the intrinsically kind impulse to stop and notice people. In his position, this positive attribute can be turned into a negative. Charles is going to continue to wage an internal war over what his natural inclination tells him to do vs. what he 'needs' to do for his own survival as monarch. Cutting Harry off forever is going to be very hard. Maybe impossible, even though politically speaking, it is the wiser course.

Tungsten--Compliment or no?

Tungsten is a 9 on the Mohs hardness scale, and it is one of the hardest naturally occurring elements in the world.

This definitely sounds like Meg. It's also considered a bit hard to work with, owing to its incredibly high melting point.

Tungsten also has the highest melting point of all metals in pure form at about 6192 degrees Fahrenheit, not to mention the highest tensile strength. I don't think her melting point is high at all, and for an element with such tensile strength, she's proved she's big fat snowflake whine-baby

All of these amazing physical characteristics are what make tungsten wedding bands so remarkable being virtually scratch proof and extremely durable, something that will last the test of time. Even when compared to titanium, silver, gold, or platinum, tungsten is more scratch resistant and durable. Often times you will see a titanium or gold ring that is scratched and dull after just a few years, yet a tungsten ring maintains its original polish and shine even after several years. It is no wonder why tungsten wedding bands are one of the most popular and fastest growing wedding bands on the market today. Not only are they stylish and elegant ha! but they are the most durable wedding rings on earth and will last a lifetime

Tungsten wedding bands might be scratch proof, but I have read that they are also prone to shattering if they are hit in a certain way. Their extreme rigidity makes them completely unmalleable and they will not give at all. Once forged, they are harder than steel. A great property for a construction metal but not so great for a flesh and blood human being.

Bad news for Hazza, then. She's not going anywhere anytime soon, of her own accord, anyway. The BRF might be getting ready to unveil a convincer. We shall have to wait and see.

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Sandie said…
@Enbretiliel

So you can use Spotify for free, but if you pay a subscription fee (not prescription!), no ads?

Thanks for that info. I may just download the ap now. I miss having music.
Unknown said…
Hi All,

I would appreciate it if the negative back and forth stopped. This blog is Nutty's hobby so civility trumps content. This is not an echo chamber so differences in opinion are allowed. Please be respectful towards one another. Thank you.
Sandie said…
@Enbretiliel

So you can use Spotify for free, but if you pay a subscription fee (not prescription!), no ads?

Thanks for that info. I may just download the ap now. I miss having music.
I listen to Podcast’s on a variety of topics. I listen to them as I’m doing things in the home. From my perspective it’s the topics and sometimes the person/people hosting it who will appeal. It’s usually the former.

For Harry and Megsy it will mostly only be their fans who will listen. They aren’t liked themselves and I don’t believe their chosen topics will be popular among most people either. I don’t have a subscription for Spotify, but all the Podcasts I do listen to, they all have backers (either you’ll hear ads during the Podcast) or it will be the one financing the Podcast. They will have to attract and keep listeners in order to satisfy their backers and advertisers. I wonder how long they’ll last?!
Grisham said…
Thank you @portcitygirl I appreciate your family’s prayers. It is a little nerve wracking because once they remove your hip joint, it’s gone and you can’t get it back. On the other hand, it’s doing me no good anyway. Plus, I’m allergic to everything, so I have a slight worry about the parts, etc. the instability led to my broken leg last year, so it’s time to get the hip fixed.

I’m really not a sugar. I have explained it many times, she disappoints me, she doesn’t listen and she does copy other people (I agree she is likely a narc or at least has some personality disorder), but I also believe Harry is also like a narc or has a PD and she is who he chose and I wish them well.

If that is a sugar, well so be it. He will always be Diana and Charles’s son who I watched grow up and he has a special place in my heart along will William and his family. It’s about Harry for me, not her... but she is the one we discuss here.

Good news! My husband just called and he has received the first vaccine shot about 45 mins ago! I’ve been waiting— they started yesterday. He gets the other shot in 3 weeks I think.

@ Tatty

Wishing you a speedy recovery and sending thoughts and prayers so your operation goes well.

You will have you life back after it is done, it really does make a huge difference.

Stay strong.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
So you can use Spotify for free, but if you pay a subscription fee (not prescription!), no ads?

Yup! I've been using it that way for years. I hope they don't change the model on me!
Portcitygirl said…
Good luck, tatty. No offense meant by the sugar comment and duly
noted.
Grisham said…
@sandie, thank you. Luckily (?) enough, I’m having it done at a speciality orthopaedic hospital so there is no ICU (which normally would give me pause but for this surgery we are ok with it— me meaning DH and me.) so there is no Covid ward. My husband treats Covid positive patients a few times a week if they are doing ok with Covid but have another life threatening issues. So far so good that he hasn’t caught it. He was fitted for his N-95 and double gloves and wears glasses and the face shield. PPE gown if they have one.

I bought face shields to wear along with my mask. I’ll have to go look for swampwoman’s tips.

@reallydonna, thanks, I wasn’t joking with my concern for her mental health. When people are flat out mean like that, something bad is going on inside of them. She needs help.

@charade, I apologize for adding to your work load. It’s just nuts that anyone else can call out incorrect facts, but when I do it, I’m “the contrarian” ... I don’t know how many times Nutty can say this isn’t an echo chamber and alternative viewpoints are allowed....


Alright, I need to go get some pre op done etc... so once I disappear, I’ll be gone for a while.... I do honestly appreciate good thoughts, well wishes, prayers, love and light... anything you can spare. I’ll take them! ❤️
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
In the now infamous footage of Haz and Mess making asses of themselves at Charles's investiture commemoration, Tungsten lives up to her name by parking herself in the doorway and trying to talk to Charles as he walked past her. He pauses and looks back, and says something to her, probably along the lines of 'You're not supposed to be here' . . but he was the *only* person who acknowledges them in any way. He was the guest of honor and he paused to speak to her. No one else even looks at them.

I'll have to watch it again, but my impression was always that it was Prince William who said, rather curtly, "You're not allowed." On the other hand, Prince Charles was, as you said, still warm and friendly toward the Harkles, despite the blatant flaunting of the rules that day.

Have we ever seen Prince Charles publicly cut someone, Prince William style?
Grisham said…
@fairy Croc thank you... I did well with my PT last year after the broken leg, so I hope to do as well this time. Of course, I’m the youngest there by far (except for the occasional 17 year old athlete that comes by now and again) and actually I called the PT manager yesterday fo inquire about their Covid mitigation measures, because in my opinion, that is where my Covid risk is. Shared equipment etc.

@portcitygirl no offense taken really. If I’m considered a sugar, then so be it, but I’m like a half sugar I guess lol.
Louise said…
Good luck on your surgery, Tatty. All the best.
Grisham said…
Oh! As for her constipation coffee, let me tell you— talk about a million or billion dollar industry. Everyone has it at times and no one wants fo discuss if. (Pain pills.... OMG). Especially women. Especially women who travel, etc. It might just be a brilliant decision to invest.

As for adaptogens, yes, I’m with those who pause on that. Not regulated, I think.

@louise, thank you so much!

@charade, I won’t engage anymore but something tells me you are still going to be busy today.
@ Tatty

"Half sugar"...Very funny.

You did well keeping our wildest speculations in check. That's not an easy job!



Grisham said…
Fairy Croc, maybe we will call me “Splenda” lol.
@ Tatty

"Splenda" - very good!

may I also suggest "Tatty & Lyle " as a play on Tate & Lyle

Tate and Lyle are famous for sugar - their fructose is excellent!

And they have a stamp of royal approval too!
SwampWoman said…
Tatty, you have my very, very best wishes for your surgery and recovery. I appreciate your contrarian opinions; I can look at a different side that I hadn't considered.
Fairy Crocodile Raindrop said, I am interested to know what you think about Harkle vs Fergie?

I’m a bit brain fogged today and rubbish on my phone (more than normal), I’ll do my best! Lol

Well I think the Duo are by far the worst overall. However, Sarah isn’t above doing dodgy deals and some have been in cahoots with her very royal hubby and ex hubby. I don’t think Sarah is mean or nasty or has general ill will against her in-laws, but she’s no angel either. We know Prince Philip can’t stand her nor can William.

Sarah and Andrew have both embarrassed The Queen and the Royal Family. The York’s are greedy like the Duo, but The Duo are vindictive and have a dire need for oneupmanship over the royals.

I’ll list just some of Sarah’s dealings over the years after her marriage.

Featured in branded Cranberry juice telly etc., ads.

Spokeswomen for Weight watchers and did various promotions of it.

Children’s book(s) Budgie the Helicopter?

She did a tell all book (about her time as a royal and what it was like being within the royal family) where she promoted it on Oprah and made several appearances on her daytime programme. In fact she been on a fair bit of American telly with various promotions.

The telegraph sting where she wanted £500k for access to Andrew (it was caught on camera). This was a few months or a year before William and Catherine’s wedding.

Her usage of Epstein’s private plane and accepted payments from him (they are written records of these occurrences).

She’s accepted payments from other various rich people (Richard Branson) to pay off her debts and finance her lifestyle.

The York’s did a very dodgy deal with selling their Berkshire home, it was sold for far more than it was worth. I think it was to some kazakhstan businessman with some very shady connections.
SwampWoman said…

Blogger Fairy Crocodile Raindrop said...
@ Tatty

"Half sugar"...Very funny.

You did well keeping our wildest speculations in check. That's not an easy job!


ROFL, agreed. Ever so often tatty does do a reality check on our various speculations. I like to characterize it as "thinking outside the box"; tatty may well compare it to thinking in parallel dimensions outside of known space and time.
@Fairy Crocodile Raindrop

It might’ve not been The Telegraph, I haven’t checked to confirm. ;o)
Unknown said…
@tatty May you have a safe and successful operation and recovery. Happy Holidays to you and all your loved ones.
Unknown said…
I hope the negative back and forth can stop now.
@ Raspberry Raffle

You have done a good summary of Yorks dodgy dealings. I agree with you they didn't glorify the British Royal Family either.

Put into prospective, Queen didn't do anything to check Andy and his ex wife. Perhaps this is where Harry's boldness comes from. He knows Queen will not act upon his dismal behavior.

Andy is still a Duke after all, HRH and in the line to succession too, however distant. He is not treated as a working royal but still benefits from the royal system. Houses, bodyguards, servants, secretaries, HRH, money, private jets, luxury - all is still there. Leech A and Leech H really, aren't they?
abbyh said…
I am running way behind on the reading of posts but I am seeing a lot of "disagreeing" about medical procedures, how long things last and so on. At this point, the "discussing" is on the level of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin which would be an opinion in a court of law.

So, if you are a medical doctor or are citing your doctor because you have had this procedure or some sort of medical study which is backing your opinion up, then I'm ok with it. Any thing else is more like people practicing medicine without a degree which I'm not as ok with as this is leading in a direction of not showing kindness towards others.

Please be kind to the other posters is a rule. No one is asking you to be besties with everyone else but a simple ignore (keep scrolling on as no one changes their opinion of topic X because of a rant on a blog - especially if insults are trending into the conversation).

Unknown: please get a name to participate is one of the few other rules. Unknowns get deleted.

First, make sure you have a gmail account. We recommend using a unique gmail to this blog for extra security and to avoid doxxing.

Second, search Google Accounts. You will land on the page where you can sign into and make updates to your account. If you don't have a gmail, you will be prompted to create one.

Third, go to the Personal Info tab. In the Profile section, you can click on "Name" and change to whatever you like.

Whenever you are logged into your Google Account, your name should post to the blog.

Thank you.
@Fairy Crocodile Raindrop

I think Grip had this figured out early on. No matter how bad the behavior, the consequences would be tolerable or non existent. "She's very good at bending the rules" quoteth her father.

I believe she truly thought they'd break off from the BRF, keeping everything, and go out and make hundreds of millions of pounds. Dillusional.

I would think that there is no going back to BRF, even for Harry. At best he goes back alone and is "retired".

Which begs the question: can Grip and Drip accept that they will not make hundreds of millions of dollars, that at best they may bring a few million a year which would not be enough to fund their lifestyle? I'm thinking they are counting (and rightfully so regrettably) on Chuck to fill in the gaps with all the funding needed over what they can "earn".

Financial independence my arse.
@Fairy Crocodile

These were the few that I could remember off the top of my head, so I’m sure there’s some I’ve missed. Let’s not forget the toe-sucking incident with her then financial adviser whilst she was still married.

Agree the Duo and the York’s are leeches and self- entitled freeloaders. The Queen didn’t step in with the York’s or solo Sarah (that we know of) so we shouldn’t expect too much to be done about the Duo. Our only hope is William and just ‘maybe’ he’ll put a stop to it.
@ Musty Syphone

I am going to speculate here as I am not an expert at royal financial arrangements, but still.

Queen has her own personal money inherited in various ways and she also has a Sovereign Grant, which is really the Crown money to keep monarchy going. When the Queen is gone her personal estate will be inherited by her four kids, the Crown money will go to Charles and the Duchy of Cornwall will go to Wills.

On top of family assets and the Sovereign Grant, Charles will get the Duchy of Lancaster, which is used to fund the King or Queen personally. Duchy of Lancaster alone brings in an estimated 20 million pounds a year.

So if Charles wants to continue to fund his immature idiotic son Harry, he has more than enough money to do this. He is unlikely to use SG because it is a subject to strict control, but he will have many millions from different "private" sources he can waste on Harry.

When Andrew was married to Sarah they mostly relied on his military wage and on what the Queen gave them, so Sarah was always in debt, but ultimately they knew the Queen will pay for them.

Sadly, Harry doesn't have to live up to consequences of his actions because he was born with a gold spoon in his mouth and will have enough money to cushion him in life - for nearest future at least. No amount of resentment from us peasants will change the fact that he will always land on all four, at least while Charles is King.

Things will change a lot when William becomes King. That's when it may all go pear-shaped for Harry, because the source of all good - money - will flow into Williams pond instead, and Wills has his own children and marital relatives to look after. Harry will have to rely on what Charles will leave to him, as well as what he already has from Diana and Queen Mom.

Harry will always have money; whether he is going to be happy with it is another matter.


SwampWoman said…
charade said...
I hope the negative back and forth can stop now.


Thanks, charade! Sorry you had to go get the wooden spoon.



Christine said…
Good Afternoon Friends

Hikari- I agree with your writings about Charles as I frequently agree with your points of view. I disagree about Archie, but that's okay because it's okay to disagree about things which I hope all you Nutties can see. :)

Anyways I wanted to add something to the discussion about Charles but this applies to nearly all members of the senior royals. I think there is a level of tolerance and a reluctance to act because, of course of the past debacles of previous generations, but also because at one time or another, most of the senior royals have had issues or been misunderstood by the public. I believe this notion is something Charles considers when thinking about H&M. Even those who now never put a foot wrong have had problems. William had the public perception of moodiness, partying including his 'Dad-dancing' debacle in Switzerland. Kate was perceived as social climbing and work-shy. Heck even the beloved Queen was thought to have handled the Diana issue horribly and acted very coldly after Diana's death.

I just hope that Charles will be able to see that incorrect public perception in the case of H&M is not the reason that they have made so many missteps. I personally believe that Harry and Meghan fully expect the titles to be stripped so they are out whoring for any possible gigs like this new Spotify deal. I was at a level 10 with annoyance with that when I read that today. It's not going to be successful however. The only time I listen to podcasts are comedy, like I love the Pete and Sebastian Show on I Heart Radio. Otherwise, no I don't desire to listen 'uplifting' podcasts. What does that even mean!

Back to the money:

Someone (on LSA?) asked where the wonga would come from when Charles is king & `William holds the purse strings'?

As I understand it, the Duchy money is earmarked/ring-fenced for the eldest son of the monarch and his children. Harry won't be entitled to it because he's then the second son of the monarch, and no longer the second son of the Prince of Wales. He's probably allowed something out of a different purse, administered by someone else ,assuming he's diligent in his royal duties...
xxxxx said…
Good luck Tatty with your operations/ You say you cannot walk right now and that is awful. I have had knee problems that limited walking or exercise. The knees are better now with
opti MSM and DMSO. As far as staving off Covid I take a Quercetin/Zinc capsule and 5000u Vitamin D each day

I am not a doctor but I do read Amazon comments on vitamins - supplements
Sandie said…
Is there anyone here who would want to listen to podcasts featuring woke and broke? Really, I wonder what sort of person would be their audience.

They are nor entertaining. (Harry can do some measure of physical comedy but this is audio only.)

They do not engage with fascinating topics or people.

They never share useful or worthwhile information.

They have both shown themselves to be very poor interviewers.

Maybe I am missing something and they do have some talent that will make their podcasts so popular it will earn them millions? Or maybe Harry has a lot more money than we think he does and everything they do is simply self indulgent amusement and ego boosting?
abbyh said…

I was thinking I should change it from 'show kindness' to 'show respect' but I'm sticking with kindness and adding respect for others.

Scroll and roll on if it is something you don't like or upsets you.
SwampWoman said…
@Christine: Re: podcasts: I was at a level 10 with annoyance with that when I read that today. It's not going to be successful however. The only time I listen to podcasts are comedy, like I love the Pete and Sebastian Show on I Heart Radio. Otherwise, no I don't desire to listen 'uplifting' podcasts. What does that even mean!


I suppose we all listen for different reasons. I like to learn new things. I'll listen to business conditions in San Francisco or the latest in COVID research. I'm not sure what an "uplifting" podcast is, either. Antigravity, perhaps?
lizzie said…
@WBBM,

Yeah, I'm not sure why people keep smugly saying Will will hold the purse strings re: Harry when Charles is king. Charles doesn't support HIS siblings from the Duchy of Cornwall. Why do people think it's even a decision Will would have to make as POW? As @Fairy Crocodile explained, as king, Charles will use the Duchy of Lancaster for Harry if he wishes to.
________________

I'm not sure Andrew & Sarah years ago are comparable to H&M today re: TQ's reaction.

Most of Sarah's bad behavior re: finances is post-divorce (not the toe-sucking trigger) but the dodgy financial stuff. Just what was TQ (or any MIL) supposed to do about an ex-DIL's behavior? While Andrew did stay involved with Sarah (beyond co-parenting), let's pretend we aren't talking about the RF but an "ordinary" but very rich family with a family business.

What would any of us say if the elderly matriarch and CEO tried to tell her son, a VP (at the time), how he could or couldn't spend his money and interact with his ex-wife and the mother of his children. And imagine the matriarch tried to dictate to her ex-DIL (a *former* employee who had been somewhat goofy & displayed poor judgment but had been loyal to the company) what she could or couldn't do. I think we'd all think the matriarch was a controlling *itch, if not off her rocker.

On the other hand, if after they had officially separated from the company (or took a "sabbatical") the matriarch's no-longer-employed-by-the-company ne'er-do-well
grandson and his delusional wife were still being supported by the company and by the matriarch (by appearing to receive a grace and favor "company house" as well as other perks and some cash.) And the couple publicly bad-mouthed the company as well as creating bad PR for it by their actions. In that case, I think we'd think the matriarch was off her rocker for not acting!
I think of the whole podcast and oat milk latte endeavors as vanity projects. There is not much money in either but you do get your name out there. If they were lucrative opportunities, other more famous people would have backed those things already. A bigger name endorsing oat milk and more famous (and talented) people with podcasts. IIRC one of the RHOC left the show to do a podcast. It wasn't a step up. Grip and Drip strike me as "entry level" endorsers or bottom of the bargain barrel endorsers/podcasters, on par with housewives.

Yes, I understand how the Royal money works. Frankly I thing Grip and Drip are holding out for big money when PP, HM, and PC all pass. And to be honest two of the three in the next five years or so. Hang on to scraps for five years and big payday at then end so to speak. they give me a grim reaper kind of vibe.

PC has a much bigger problem than money/funding. He needs the peoples' respect and he is losing it over the indulgence of the Harkles. After holding his mother's handbag for 70 years, he needs to show his own leadership and strength. Sadly I see neither.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Musty, I think the Queen will be around in 5 years. Her mother lived to 101, after all.

As for Charles, he needs to do the same thing I did today which is to show no mercy to transgressors.

I would not listen to their podcast and I doubt they are getting more than a symbolic $1 from Spotify for them. $1 to signify that there is some sort of contract between them.
luxem said…
I don't think Harry can pull off a podcast because there are simply too many "woke" expressions to remember and know when to use appropriately.

Harry's description of the podcast in the DM story today:

"To bring forward different perspectives and voices that perhaps you haven't heard before. And find our common ground. Because when that happens change really is possible".

Then Meghan says "the podcasts will be about 'finding kindness and compassion, something we saw in some many places this year'.

So are they bringing together Proud Boys/BLM or Trump/Biden supporters or maskers/anti-maskers or vaxxers/anti-vaxxers to help them find "common ground" on how to treat each other with kindness and compassion?

Or are they bringing in sycophants who have emotional stories to tell of kindness and compassion by others - something those of us who live and work in the real world see on a daily basis.
Girl with a Hat said…
@xxxx, Quercetin blocks your sulfation enzyme pathways. And can lead to lots of issues as sulfation is required in many body systems.

http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/sulfation_benefits.pdf
jessica said…
Once Joe Rogan announced his podcast on Spotify (that took over from YouTube) for $100MM, Meg thought she could do that too. The difference is that Joe has been on YouTube, daily for 2-4 hour segments for 10 (!!!) years.

How are Harry and Meghan going to keep a schedule going of podcasts, zooms, charities, documentaries and shows for Netflix, etc. they want to be the face of everything but cannot be everywhere at once. They need to choose a lane.

This is exhausting.

Anyone can throw a podcast up on Spotify.
Grisham said…
Thanks, everyone for the good wishes for my surgery.


One thing I was just thinking about and wondering: might they be using the podcast as a possible stepping stone to a Sirius XM channel?

Doesn’t Oprah or Gayle have a channel?
Grisham said…
Is there a full moon out tonight?


Or with HAMS maybe a podcast on Spotify and a Sirius Xm channel?
abbyh said…

Any one can post research on various Markle topics.

None of us have direct control over who will respond to any part of it (short of going full moderation).

At best, we can delete comments after posting if the moderators feel it is disrespectful on a personal level. Sometimes people don't agree with the decision (to or not to delete a particular post).
jessica said…
Tatty,

Yes they are trying to prove their value (which will take a lot of time) to the get a branded deal with a podcast provider. I give the odds of that happening 10%. They are competing with people who do that full-time. They are trying anything and everything. The thing is though, unless they have unlimited funds, resources or, basically, a company like Jenner Communications (the firm that Kris Jenner runs) running a podcast is very expensive. First, you need a studio. Then all the management around it: booking brand appropriate interviews and talent, sponsors, scheduling, editing, etc. anecdotally, husband works with a famous influencer who has niche and *valuable* knowledge content- the podcast ‘idea’ has been shot down numerous times in meetings due to the work involved (negative ROI). So if Meghan plans to sink money and time hoping it will lead to charity contributions she should evaluate her efforts more.
Grisham said…
Jessica, thanks for the inside information. I’d bet the guy your husband knows would be ticked about this. I see them more in personal appearances.
SwampWoman said…
tatty, glad to hear that your husband got the vaccine today. University of Florida hospital vaccinated 10 healthcare workers yesterday and 100 today. They have carefully evaluated the healthcare workers for any allergic reactions. There are no ill effects at this time. They plan to vaccinate 700 healthcare workers tomorrow.
jessica said…
Tatty,

I do wonder why they are dabbling with wanting to be front and center and then teasing that they want to highlight others. It’s a confusing message! Who are the Sussexes and what exactly do they stand for.

As for the influencer, he wouldn’t be upset, he would probably just think they aren’t very smart but moreso he just wouldn’t care at all (he’s super focused and works 100 hour weeks). My husband overall thinks podcasts are a waste of time as a source of revenue. I could get his thoughts on that more later today.

That’s the thing, though, if they (M&H) truly want to make an impact on their wallets they need to focus.

Good luck with your procedure!
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman, I heard that the vaccine has a lot of hidden side effects which won't be seen for years to come in people. I wouldn't take that vaccine if they paid me. I would rather take my chances with the virus. This vaccine inserts active sequences of RNA into your body which can hijack your cells to do many things, not just blocking the virus. It is untested and the people receiving the vaccine are guinea pigs. There has been no long term study of its effects on people. I expect a major health catastrophe because of it in the future.
Grisham said…
@swampwoman, thanks, it’s a relief. My cardiologist got it yesterday and my husband’s partner got it early this morning (out of all the ones who got it yesterday and today— they did a bunch yesterday), so I was hoping it would be today. No one has noted side effects, but this is also why it’s a divided dose. I think the second dose packs a bit of a punch. We shall see.

@jessica, thanks again. That is interesting about what your husband says about stream of revenue, and I also think it probably doesn’t do much good for publicity. I can’t name one podcast. Yes, pick his brain later and give us his thoughts. That would be interesting.
NeutralObserver said…
I don't want to upset anyone, & I'm certainly no fan of the Harkles, but this could be a winner for them. I don't know if they'll have the knack to develop a successful radio talk show, which is what this is, essentially, but people like Howard Stern & Don Imus made millions in talk radio, as has right wing firebrand, Rush Limbaugh.

My ears, or lug holes, or whatever, aren't large enough to accommodate ear pods, etc., but my kids, & tech savvy friends & family like to listen to podcasts while driving, gardening, walking the dog, etc. If you have a platform which reaches a large audience & attracts advertisers, you could be in clover. I used to play tennis with a woman whose husband was a deejay for a popular top 100s rock station in the tri-state area, & he apparently earned millions. He isn't interesting, but he worked very hard throughout his career, & knew his audience, (teeny boppers, mainly).

Joe Rogan, whom I've listened to on my computer, can be very amusing. He has a blue-collar, down-to-earth schtick, but he attracts highly educated, interesting guests, like physicist Sean Carroll. Joe is a superb listener, & is very good at drawing his guests out. He also seems pretty open minded. Drip & Drop don't have those qualities, so obviously the Joe Rogan podcast user won't be their audience, but the people who listened to my tennis pal's husband might be. Interestingly, he seems to appeal to Trump fans more than 'wokies.'

The Harkles could appeal to the Obama audience. Some people might enjoy having their political or social views reinforced by podcasts, & if the Harkles can find their audience, they could be very successful. You're not too picky when you're driving to work, & just want to fight boredom. We can now see what they've been auditioning for this summer with their endless zoom calls & videos. I was going to say that the Harkles should avoid being too preachy, but then recalled that various highly dubious 'preachers' have had very lucrative radio & tv careers. Most of them seemed to veer toward conservatism, but perhaps young liberals will develop a taste for being harangued as well. You can't go too wrong in appealing to the lowest common denominator in the USA, it seems. Since Megs won't be on camera, perhaps she won't feel the need to continue the Michael Jacksonesque experiments with her appearance. Their success or failure will be on their shoulders. If Spotify can't make money from them, I doubt they will try to save them. The web doesn't work that way, it's sink or swim.

It will be interesting to see if all of this activity will have any bearing on Megs' court case. If Charles continues to give them his Duchy money, he really is unsuitable to be king.
xxxxx said…
jessica said...
Once Joe Rogan announced his podcast on Spotify (that took over from YouTube) for $100MM, Meg thought she could do that too. The difference is that Joe has been on YouTube, daily for 2-4 hour segments for 10 (!!!) years.

Rogan has been plugging away for years. Spotify is tossing money around like Netflix. I think Rogan was worth 50 million to Spotify. I just looked and Rogan has cut off his youtube channel. I listened to many of his podcasts and I have zero interest in Spotify so goodbye Rogan. I am amused how everything is streaming these days. Rather than you acquiring the DVD or download a movie and store on your computers to replay later be it video or music MP3.

Megs and Hapless on Spotify is a joke. The dubious duo will get paid .0000003% of what Joe Rogan got
Girl with a Hat said…
@Neutral Observer, I really doubt it. There are lots of people who have very interesting podcasts who have a hard time making any money from them. Dan Carlin and his Hard Core History podcast is a good example. Everyone loves him. He is entertaining and has been at it a long time, but he still has a hard time making money. He's on a lot of platforms as well.

The podcast world is overcrowded as it is.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Neutral Observer, Dan Carlin also tried another approach to his podcasts, a shorter, more frequent commentary on actual events called Common Sense. He has a cult following because of his history podcasts. When a new podcast comes out, people announce it on Reddit. But they try to find a free way to get access so is still struggling. And, the man is fascinating to listen to.
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Girl with a Hat said…
it's funny that they compare themselves to the people who have the best contracts on Spotify and Netflix - Joe Rogan and the Obamas. When in fact they are probably producing stuff for free for Spotify.
Acquitaine said…
I love Joe Rogan's podcasts. Such an eclectic range of guests. On all manner of topics. I sincerely hope he continues to kill it over on Spotify and i hope they let him continue to have his eclectic choice of guests.

I'm not keen on Spotify because that's another service to add to the myriad other services i already subscribe to.

Then again, if i can't find a replacement for Joe, i will have to bite the bullet and get spotify specifically for him.

As for Meghan and Harry, no way. These two people can't hold a conversation at all. They do not listen nor ask interesting questions and frankly who wants to be harangued and lectured for an hour or two?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Acquitaine, you can get Spotify for free but it includes advertisements.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Acquitaine, I like Joe Rogan but not when he tries to steer every conversation towards the hallucinogenic drugs he likes to take.
xxxxx said…
Megs and Hapless will be very non-entertaining as purely audio on Spotify. Their voices are boring, not interesting. They are better on a ten minute video that her sugars will like, her detractors will like to see the train wreck, see her flap her arms around and put on various facial expressions of sincerity. You get none of this in a podcast.
SwampWoman said…
@Jessica: Thanks for the insider knowledge, Jessica!
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SwampWoman said…
xxxxx said: Megs and Hapless will be very non-entertaining as purely audio on Spotify. Their voices are boring, not interesting. They are better on a ten minute video that her sugars will like, her detractors will like to see the train wreck, see her flap her arms around and put on various facial expressions of sincerity. You get none of this in a podcast.


So, there will be nothing to detract from the fact that they have absolutely nothing to say, but they will take their time not saying it? I agree.
NeutralObserver said…
@Girl With a Hat, I SO hope you're right. What I was trying to say was that lots of people in tv, radio, & now the web, have been extremely successful without being the kind of talent who would appeal to people who comment here on Nutty. I got a brief chuckle contemplating what Charles & his minions would think of Howard Stern.

Megs' natural audience is 'low information, aspirational,' so, probably not many people reading this blog. The Harkles are most likely too dim to come up with anything that will have wide appeal, but podcasts don't seem to have high production costs, & if you don't stick them on YouTube, you can do them in your bathrobe. They probably think they can make a fortune flogging those awful sounding oat-milk lattes to the ignorant masses. Morning television does essentially the same thing, but people with a lot more fire power are producing that stuff.
Maisie said…
I follow @goodnews_movement on Instagram. This 1.9M journalist-run page highlights good news around the world with recent posts such as; 'Blind father-to-be unable to see ultrasound scan of his baby-so a friend created an embroidery to help him picture baby.' You get the idea.

Her 'story' today featured an interview between herself and an interviewer from @queens_commonwealth_trust. She gives a thank you to @queens_commonwealth_trust, @theroyalfamily, @sussexroyal for the invitation to discuss @goodnews_movement: our vision and our mission. (Piyush Ghosh and Michelle Figueroa.) I had to double-check when this interview was done. Yes! @sussexroyal. Is she inept and unaware that @sussexroyal is supposed to be done and currently dormant? Nope, this is a very recent interview. We have not seen the last of @sussexroyal.

Is this the direction of Archie's Gong Show on Spotify? Just think how horrible we will all feel/look when all Meg and Harry want to do is to promote positive people doing uplifting things and we want to lob grenades. What fabulous foils for them to hide behind.
NeutralObserver said…
If it makes anyone feel better about this latest alleged Harkle deal, Joe Rogan had millions of listeners before he signed with Spotify, which why they probably gave him a generous deal. His audience seems to have been built on word of mouth, as you certainly didn't see nonstop Joe Rogan pr in the popular press, unlike the Harkles. The Harkles couldn't draw a decent audience on cable or network tv in the US, despite millions spent on pr. That said, a lot of stuff I don't particularly care for has achieved commercial success.
Mel said…
Good luck, Tatty. Hope you're Up and about in no time.

This is probably an unpopular thought, but I have no interest in podcasts. No matter how good it is, I lose interest after the 1st 5 minutes, find myself thinking about other things instead of listening to the Podcast. I can only imagine that the harkle Podcast will be extremely boring and gag inducing.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie & AnT

I’ll keep my quill sharpened,
Lancelot de Boils!

Archewell Audio, sounds like a promo
for the hard of hearing/hearing aids?
What next, Archewell Visual,
an actual sighting of Archie...
Elsbeth1847 said…
I first read "Archewell Audio" as Archewell Adios".
Crumpet said…
@Puds

So, hilarious!

SwampWoman said…
Mel said: This is probably an unpopular thought, but I have no interest in podcasts. No matter how good it is, I lose interest after the 1st 5 minutes, find myself thinking about other things instead of listening to the Podcast. I can only imagine that the harkle Podcast will be extremely boring and gag inducing.

Doesn't bother me. Probably not a lot of people here that wait for the latest Mongolian metal music from The Hu, either, but here I am. You would probably be shocked, SHOCKED at the number of people that do not love a Mongolian band covering Metallica!

The advantage of video over sound alone, to me, is whether the body language matches the speech. I'm not good at body language but, if it isn't congruent, it makes me uncomfortable. It is an unconscious rather than a conscious reaction.

Jdubya said…
Exciting news !!!

Kate is pregnant !!! With twins!!! and will be stepping back from duties in January. Prince William said, they almost had to resort to IVF but then "it worked".

Yes, indeed, it's true. I saw it on the cover of In Touch magazine while standing in the check out line at the grocery store.

My goodness - i can almost wish it was true just to see the reaction of the gruesome twosome
Magatha Mistie said…

Puds, count the clicks of her teeth?
Listen for the rattle as she rolls her eyes?
Shot of tequila every time she says ‘I’
We’ll all be legless within a minute, won’t hear a thing!
Magatha Mistie said…

Swampie, The Hu
Just played Yuve Yuve Yu, brilliant,
love it!!
Mel said…
Puds..count how many times she sucks her teeth back into her mouth. Or chews on her tongue.

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