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Meg and Kamala

Although I haven't been around much recently, I've enjoyed reading the comments. Recently the group was discussing whether or not the Sussexes would release a Christmas card this year, given what Meg's tragic miscarriage last summer (if you believe the official version of events) or their lack of access to the baby playing the role of Archie (if you don't).

I was struck by Enbrethiliel's suggestion that if the Sussexes do a Christmas card this year, it might include a quote from Kamala Harris.

Birds of a feather

Actually, I'm surprised that Meghan hasn't tried harder to publicly associate herself with Harris. 

Both women are biracial, both California natives, both "woke" Democrats. They even have similar hairstyles and fashion preferences. Both are fond of big, airy language with minimal substance, and both are openly ambitious. 

In fact, there's quite a bit of chatter suggesting that Joe Biden will have quite a short presidency and quickly resign in favor of Harris, perhaps for health reasons or some connection to his troubled son's business dealings. 

Wouldn't Meghan love to be connected with the first female president? Maybe even pose Archie in a "Harris and Harrison" photo to go with has "Arch and Archbishop" Bishop Tutu? 

Harris went after Meghan first

Ironically, in the past it has been Harris who has worked hard to associate herself with Markle. 

In October 2019, on her official Senate account, Harris commented on Meghan's weepy video statement in South Africa, in which Meg suggested that the Royal Family rarely asked how she was doing. 

Harris' Tweet read: "This is incredibly important. We must remember that it's a sign of strength to show emotion. Meghan, we are with you."

(The boldface is in the original).

In 2019, Harris was running in the Presidential primaries and might have thought she could benefit by associating herself with Meghan. (She eventually dropped out without winning a single delegate.)

Time Magazine brought them together

In June 2020, Harris again used her official Senate account to comment on Meghan's (apparently unrequested) graduation video for students of her alma mater, discussing racial justice.

Harris wrote, using boldface again, "The only wrong thing to say is nothing. Thank you, Meghan, for this powerful statement."

At the time, Harris was out of the presidential race entirely, although certainly aiming for the vice president job. 

Meghan's video bears a Time Magazine watermark, and Harris also has a long association with Time Magazine, a onetime Republican stalwart that has gone ultra-woke after its acquisition by a Silicon Valley billionaire.

Time put Harris on the cover in 2019 - "Her Case: Presidential candidate Kamala Harris fights for a path forward" - and this week there was another cover naming her and Joe Biden, bizarrely, "Person of the Year." (Are these two individuals somehow just one person? Or was Joe, as President-Elect, not significant enough to get his own Person of the Year cover?)

It's hard to know if the June tweet was Harris supporting Meghan, Harris cementing her relationship with Time Magazine, Harris promoting herself, or all of the above.

The wrong cards

Given Kamala Harris' come-up, there's little doubt that Meghan would now be eager to associate herself with the vice-president elect. 

However, as a leader-in-waiting, Harris has little incentive to annoy the Royal Family by publicly linking herself to Meghan.  

There don't seem to be any publicly-available photos of the two of them together, and there probably won't be if Harris can help it. 

Looks like Meghan's played her cards wrong again - even if she does put a Kamala Harris quote on her 2020 Christmas card. 



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Groan time now:

They've announced a new `partnership'- reported by many outlets

Sussexes' Archewell Foundation to fund construction of four ...www.telegraph.co.uk › royal-family › 2020/12/20

10 hours ago — World Central Kitchen inspires us through compassion in action." The Duchess has volunteered at soup kitchens since she was 15. In April ...


I refuse to click on the People link - can't even face the Telegraph report - it's all hot air.
Magatha Mistie said…

Maneki & AnT - Snow cones ❄️

xxxxx - glad to be of service.
It is indeed grim, we’ve had our borders closed, again!!

WildBoar - thought she might have been on the piste...
Magatha Mistie said…

Is anyone taking bets on a Harkle
Christmas photo?
World Central Kitchen?
100/1 shot .. Archie stirring the gruel,
whilst Megs scrawls on wet lettuce.
Harry in charge of the spit...
All wearing snow- women outfits.
“Tentative Manoeuvres”

jessica said…
It’s all very strange. They announce Spotify, yet nothing delivered. They announce a charity donation, yet nothing given.

All the announcements, none of the substance.
jessica said…
DM has an article out today explaining that Eugenie is expected to spend most of her maternity leave at Frogmore Cottage and that it was loaned to her by Harry.
`on the piste' - thanks Magatha!

Skiing is one accomplishment that she hasn't claimed yet, IIRC. Perhaps Harry should take her up to Denver as soon as it's possible - trying to zoom around on skis is quite a risky thing when one is a novice, says she, from having to be rescued in the Norway by having to sit on a plastic bivvy bag and be dragged down the mountain to where the rescue snowmobile waited.
@Jessica - re Toad Hall =-

"`Curiouser and curiouser!', cried Alice..."
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

For a Harkles Christmas photo, MM could dig out an old Xmas costume she wore for Deal or No Deal, in fact she wore a 'sexy Santa outfit'.
The link will refresh your memory in case you can't remember this fetching little number:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10480844/meghan-markle-sexy-santa-christmas/

Will they publish a family Christmas card, perhaps showing Meg teaching Archie some 'calligraphy'?

Sorry to hear your borders are closed, we're in tier 4 so in lockdown and flights from the UK to several countries are banned.
Magatha Mistie said…

Come on Nutties,
Ideas on the Harkles Chrissie photo?
Best shot wins a special Hikari groat meal,
yak milk, saccharined, soupcon!!
OFF TOPIC WARNING: SCROLL ON BY -NOTHING TO SEE ABOUT THE HARKLES HERE!!!

UK update - we're under a 48hr blockade from the ports at the other side of the Channel. Ostensibly for `medical' reasons....
SwampWoman said…
They will be near the tree while Megs reads "Twas the Night before Christmas" (bespoke version) to Harry in their festive Christmas pajamas while merching steaming mugs of oatmilk lattes. There will be several wrapped tiara-shaped packages under the tree. Archie will be sleeping.
SwampWoman said…
EXTREMELY OFF TOPIC QUESTION! JUST BLOCK ME IF IT OFFENDS YOU:

Wild Boar Battle-maid said: OFF TOPIC WARNING: SCROLL ON BY -NOTHING TO SEE ABOUT THE HARKLES HERE!!!

UK update - we're under a 48hr blockade from the ports at the other side of the Channel. Ostensibly for `medical' reasons....


Ostensibly medical, but it smells political. Is this about the fisheries?
SwampWoman said…
Off Topic! Unclean! Unclean! Avert Your Eyes!

Seems to be quite a few arguments erupting as to whether this is a "natural" mutation or whether it was "helped along" by actor or actors unknown *cough* China *cough*, and Chinese Communist Party scientists were working on the vaccine for the large pharmaceutical companies. China and their labs will have all the details.

The scientists pushing the "natural" mutation point out that convalescent plasma from several individuals that may be carrying different viral mutations have been pumped into immunocompromised individuals that are chronically infected and this can lead to highly increased mutation rates.

I agree with Puds that the news agencies AKA propaganda outlets are complicit in disseminating disinformation while fear mongering.
Off Topic

That's good news, thanks @Puds.
AnT said…
Sussex Christmas card photo:

In black and white of course.,On the cheap white rented studio sofa with the nest art behind them. A couple if white pillar candles in glass vases with good balls, symbolizing the 1990s, when Nutmeg turned her present age of 13. The books behind them are “A World of Cookies for Santa” and “I got the Christmas Spirit”. There is also a large framed photo behind them showing their spirit parents David Foster and Oprah In matching black suits and white white shirts, taken at the David Foster Foundation Gala in Vancouver in 2017. And, a Funko pop Queen Elizabeth doll upside down in another glass vase. Harry wears his other shirt, the white one, With his black suit, signaling fealty. He also wears a wide beige satin crossbody pageant sash Advertising Archewell Audio. Nutmeg wears a white silky shirt with her black suit, sleeves pushed up to show Trevor’s Cartier bracelet to advantage. She is centered in the photo, has her hair scraped back into a bun and stares coldly and evenly at the camera, with her plumped Christmas frosted lips in a cool smug smile. Harry sits to the left, his open shirt collar askew, thin watery demi-smile, pencilled eyebrows, and though he is blurry in this image, we can just about tell that’s he is gazing down to the left at something out of frame. We will later learn he was entranced looking down at his unseen sleeping son Archie, who fell asleep on the floor with one dog and his beloved book of French verbs. They could not disturb him for a photo, and Doria was busy in the kitchen finishing the chicken and handing out bags of coins to the gardeners and security team. The message on this digital photo card is May this Season of Kindness and Family inspire Dialogues and Support and Inclusion that Last a Full Year with Regular Deposits of Love. We are invited to purchase this image for instant download for just $100 USD, to aid the Archewell Audio broadcast awards.

Happy Camper said…
Meghan and Harry reveal first donation from their new charity Archewell's with go to World Kitchen run by Chef Jose Andre ThinkFoodGroup

QUESTION: Can any fellow nutties verify this?

A comment in today’s DM article about Harry and Meghan’s first foundation donation going to World Kitchen run by Chef Jose Andre said he is a client of guess who? — Sunshine Sachs.

I did some searching to confirm the comment, but couldn’t find anything.

Andre’s food empire of 28 restaurants is under the corporate name Think Food Group, LLC, so he could be listed with a P.R. firm under his name, World Kitchen, or Think Food Group, LLC.
SwampWoman said…
Scroll By Alert:

@Puds: I think we are being encouraged/poked/prodded into hostilities and this has been ongoing for some time.
AnT said…
Lol, sorry about the typos. I am typing on my goofy autocorrecting iPad which keeps freezing weirdly today.

“Good balls” was meant to say gold balls. But perhaps good balls is better, and can allude to the days when Hazza had some.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman and Puds,
Well, I for one still love you and am happy you are here. Capice?

The Jupiter Saturn conjunction — exciting, first time in 800 years I think, but I am not sure we saw it either. I read it is supposed to symbolize enormous changes, new starts, and out with the old/in with the new, in whichever astrological house you have Aquarius. (For me, it is my house of work, which is intriguing based on conversations I had the past two months. To find yours, there is a site called Astro dot com.)
AnT said…
In November 2019, World Central Kitchen Chef JosÄ— Andres was featured in a Sunshine Sachs-promoted Podcast, Telling Stories, with other “Latinx leaders.and activists” per the SS release.

That is all I can find but I always assume SS is choosing and making the connections from their files for the Sussexes.

Mel said…
I don't quite understand why people would donate funds to archewell, so that the Harkles can take credit for the donation. And use it to fund their own lifestyle.

Why wouldn't people make a donation directly to whoever and get the credit for themselves? And *all* of their donation would go to the charity, rather than 95% to the Harkles and 5% to the charity?
Girl with a Hat said…
I'm thinking that their Christmas card will be a back view of the 3 of them.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Puds, sorry, I didn't see your comment. Great minds think alike!
Midge said…
@Puds
You said I'm thinking a black and white (so arty ) view of H&M and someone we are to assume is Archie starring up at the Christmas Star which came out just for them, and the star is sprinkling gold dust or money down on them.

Perhaps consider adding three halos or tiny gold crowns a la Three Kings.
Opus said…
Did Grace Kelly speak French? She spoke fluent English for Mr Hitchcock. After her marriage she retired from the screen but she was persuaded to provide an intro for that strangest of movies Danger Grows Wild aka Poppies are also a Flower. Perhaps she was not a good actress, for her intro - a paean against illegal drugs - dripped with fakeness. Are there tales of illicit narcotics in the house of Grimaldi?

Kelly was not the only female in the movie to marry European Royalty. Jocelyn Lane married into Spain. Marriage is you see and contrary to what I was always being told still enormously popuar. Jocelyn Lane was one of but three British love intereets in Elvis' movies. Bonus points if you can say which of Elvis other co-stars rather than marrying broke-off her engagment and entered a convent - where you will still find her.
SwampWoman said…
Has the William diagnosed with a slow-growing cancer rumor been discussed to death when I wasn't here? I just found out about it but, with the holidays, haven't been following anything too closely.
Teasmade said…
I didn't look it up but was it a Dolores . . . ?
A representation of the Flight into Egypt?

Dimbo playing Joseph, leading the donkey,

M as Mary, on a Western saddle, dad photoshopped out, horse given donkey's ears,

Archie as Baby Jesus.

Bethlehem (with silhouettes of St Paul's Cathedral, Big Ben and Nelson's Column) left behind in the far distance.

Finger post pointing the way to the New Promised Land?
Girl with a Hat said…
@Opus,

In the movies, Grace Kelly spoke English with an accent called 'Mid-Atlantic' but the only people who spoke with that accent were movie stars. It was supposed to be a meeting of American and British accents which made the movie palatable to both audiences. No one in real life spoke that way.

Others affecting that accent were Cary Grant and others of that generation.



https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/trashy-american-magazine-falsely-claims-that-prince-william-is-battling-cancer-153489/

Trashy American magazine falsely claims that Prince William is battling cancer

By Charlie Proctor

12th December 2020
"An American magazine famous for the use of yellow journalism has run a cover story falsely claiming that the Duke of Cambridge is fighting cancer.

National Enquirer, which also claims that 51-year-old Gwen Stefani has been pregnant for the past four years, reports that Prince William is secretly battling the illness.

His ‘cancer diagnosis’ is so secret that nobody knows about it (apart from the simpleton hacks at the National Enquirer of course.)

Unfortunately some of the more gullible in society believe the misinformation that is printed on the front of this magazine despite the fact they are well known for their works of fiction.

This particular piece of glorified toilet paper also recently reported that The Queen, Prince Charles, Phil Collins and Hilary Clinton were all coming to their deaths.
Thankfully, the only thing dying is the National Enquirer itself which has seen its circulation drop by around 90 percent over the past two decades."


Strange that they didn't mention the Duke of Edinburgh, just the Monarch and the next 2 in line...

I wonder if there was another slime pit acting as the NI source?
Girl with a Hat said…
@WBBM,

I remember the National Enquirer breaking some stories which everyone thought were crazy but turned out to be true.

I hope this one isn't, however.

It does remind one that cancer is a vicious opportunist that preys on young and old, wealthy and poor.
abbyh said…

How about everyone back away from that part of the discussion on who can and cannot speak/understand French please

and get back to the topic we are really here for.

(thank you for your attention to this matter)
Hikari said…
Listen!

Do you hear the sound of bespoke SoHo House Christmas tree ornaments smashing as they are hurled against the white birds-nest wall in Chateau Mudslide?

I just finished perusing the new issue of People, featuring a fantastic cover of a beaming Duchess of Cambridge in her red coat from the train tour. Inside, a glossy 6-page spread, celebrating Kate as a down-to-earth, caring mom of her three very alive and visible children. She likes to take the kids to a children's party spot in Norfolk called 'Mable's Paint Pot' where the kids can paint their own ceramics and such. Watch for the as-yet-to-appear Harkle Christmas card to feature Archie's handprints rendered artistically in vegan, gender-neutral paint and adorned with MM's calligraphy.

There is a tiny faux pas in the very first sentence, as Catherine is referred to as "Princess Kate" . . but I'm all for it as it is certain to send our Cut-Rate American Duchess Princess Henry into paroxysms of Narc rage.

Do we suspect the Suxxit PR team being behind the 'William is battling Brain cancer!' rumors that have popped up in the National Enquirer? Would not put it past her.

I did note that in a sidebar piece introducing a handful of Kate's closest friends, Rose Hanbury was not among them. A couple are Kate's friends from way back, but the rest seem to be Norfolk neighbors who are married to William's friends.
Henrietta said…
The National Enquirer isn't "that" trashy. It broke the stories on Gary Hart's affair and John Edwards's love child, derailing both of those politicians' campaigns for the Democratic presidential nomination. But given MM's predilection for leaking lies to the press, I wouldn't believe anything this drastic about PW. It sounds a little too much like MM's real Christmas gift to the Cambridges.
Hikari said…
Oh, and Kate's purchase on a recent trip to Sainsbury's near Anmer Hall was disclosed: A Mexican meal in a box kit.

So watch for a gush of articles emanating from Meg's PR enthusing about how 'the Duchess' loves to kick back and prepare lovingly hand-made tamales for Just H and Archie. Vegan ones, of course, with lactose-free cheese.
xxxxx said…
Opus, I use Bing not google. Even with the inferior Bing search for__ Elvis convent ___ this was easy. UK Daily Mail among others. This was Dolores Hart.

Dolores Hart: Elvis Presley's former flame who turned her ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2105662/...
Feb 24, 2012 · The nun who kissed Elvis: Extraordinary story of a starlet who turned her back on Hollywood to live in a convent. By Tom Leonard Updated: 04:02 EST, 24 February 2012
Author: Tom Leonard

And Merry Christmas too all. I ran into some old friends today who raised my merriment level. Very soon the ill year (annus horribilis) of 2020 will be far back in the rear view mirror. 2021 will be better with more barn yard animal reviews from Swampie. With more good works from the Royal Family that British are obliged to like and so many American ex-colonials also revere.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid: Nah, it wasn't the National Enquirer, but it *may* have been somebody commenting on the Enquirer story. The National Enquirer was a tabloid that used to be at the checkout register for a quick impulse buy. Now, with people increasingly scanning their own groceries, I haven't seen it at the point of sale locations for quite awhile. I don't know where I saw it mentioned online; I had forgotten about it and it just came back to me.

It is interesting about the quickness of the response to discredit the NE; they have broken a *lot* of stories in the past but it changed hands a few years ago, much to the relief of philandering politicians. In fact, the NE staff and a sister publication were the first recipients of the mailed anthrax bioterrorism letters after 9/11. A British-born man working there died of pulmonary anthrax. I remember it because those of us that raised livestock in Florida were aghast that medical experts were talking about anything *besides* terrorism for pulmonary anthrax since he hadn't been in the western US (where spores can survive for very long times in the soil), hadn't handled any old drums or hides, and hadn't been newly returned from Africa.

The researcher that was blamed for the murders was hounded relentlessly by the FBI and killed himself. There are many people that still think that he was a convenient scapegoat.
Hikari said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9075013/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-official-Christmas-snap-way.html

The Harkles reassure the world that their Christmas card is 'On the Way!!'

What, are they going to hand-deliver millions of copies personally all 'round the world?

There's likely a lot of things being smashed and the Tig being guzzled as Madam tries frantically to come up with a Photoshop vision to outdo the Cambs.

Good luck, Jan, as you try to figure out how to age FrankenArchie from last year's card. Does he have visible red tufts this year?
lizzie said…
Didn't H&M's card last year come out on Christmas Eve? I seem to remember it was awful late.
Midge said…
@Lizzie
The card was released on Twitter
The Queen's Commonwealth Trust
@queenscomtrust
·
Dec 23, 2019 at 5 something in the evening and made Time at 9:19 on Dec.24th
Opus said…
Hikari is punctilious - not punctillious just informative -in reminding us (I knew of course) that Kate is not a Princess but a Duchess. My theory is that given how many people are handed gongs (as we call them) and one cannot be expected to remmeber who has what, that all British people should adopt whichever title or accolade most suits them. One is always surprised to learn that some aging thespian is not Sir this or that. I always refer to the male actors as Dame and the female as Sir as in Sir Helen Mirren and Dame Simon Callow (no idea whether he actually has one). In one of his short stories Sir Arthur C. Clarke posited that by whichever year everyone in England would hold a knighthood. Many people refer to me as Lord Opus of ....... and so I am happy to acknowledge my precedence - you my address me as your serene highness.

XXXXX does indeed receive the bonus points - and points mean prizes but sadly not on this occasion. Everyone (so many actresses at least) but not Dolores Hart want to marry Royalty even though they - I am looking at you Meghan Markle - will also tell you how devoted they are to Female Empowerment. We judge people by their behaviour not by their assertions. Miss Hart or as I should now call her Mother Superior and in a case of life imitating art played Clare of the Poor Clares in the Francis of Asissi movie. Her thwarted fiancee songwriter Don Robertson never married but remained devoted to her throughout his remaining bachelor life.

...but I am digressing as it seems again that we are going to have to fight them on the beaches.
Christine said…
Good Afternoon, I like how H&M have to reassure the world that their card is on the way. Actually after I read that, I went on Walmart.com and ordered some that will be ready later for me to pick up. So thanks for the reminder Megsy.

Meghan loves frenzy around Archie. On whether he'll be on the card and whether the world will get the opportunity gaze lovingly at the perfect royal child. I like AnT's ideas on the card. It will be something shot at their Montecito mansion, and it will all depend on whatever subliminal messaging she wants to get across to......God knows who!

So glad Meghan got those gifts sent off to W&K. Such a stupid story. Maybe Kate can mail her a lovely Christmas cake.

You guys..... I don't like what the National Enquirer is reporting. Yes they report a lot of b.s, but they also break a lot of big stories and they have eyes and ears everywhere in America. Most big stories in the US are broken in some facet by the Nat Enquirer. I hope William is fine. And you know, he would not want the story released if he wasn't. He always looks good in his appearances. He comes across as a strong man of body with a lot of lead in his pencil as it were. (Well not like THAT, but maybe so!)
Jdubya said…
have you seen the new Page Six photo's?

https://pagesix.com/2020/12/21/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-step-out-in-beverly-hills/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=P6Twitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

Girl with a Hat said…
@Jdubya, thanks for the link.
Hikari said…
@Opus,

Punctilious sounds bad . . I was just pointing out yet another incidence of incorrect title usage by the American media. Since Kate is married to a Prince, she will be Princess Kate over on this side of the Pond until she becomes Queen. Perhaps at *that* juncture, American media will start using the given name she prefers, and also will finally stop referring to her as 'Kate Middleton'. Eyeballing 10 years of marriage and having become the mother of three, and many outlets still insist on referring to her by her maiden name. I've seen the British media do this as well. On the British side of things, is this intended as some kind of subtle dig that Catherine is *not royal*, having just 'married in'? It's annoying whoever is doing it because that should have been dropped after the wedding. It's not like Catherine has a career as a TV presenter or something and needs to be known professionally by her maiden name. Her professional name is Cambridge. People weren't addressing Diana as 'Diana Spencer' while she was married to Charles. If her Spencer name was used it was preceded by 'the former'.

Unfortunately this means that to the vast majority of Americans, they won't see a thing wrong with Markle calling herself 'Princess Meghan'. It's galling, but there it is.

@Christine


You guys..... I don't like what the National Enquirer is reporting. Yes they report a lot of b.s, but they also break a lot of big stories and they have eyes and ears everywhere in America. Most big stories in the US are broken in some facet by the Nat Enquirer. I hope William is fine. And you know, he would not want the story released if he wasn't. He always looks good in his appearances


I give props to the Nat Enquirer for breaking the Gary Hart and John Edwards stories, but dalliances of a politician who is stupid enough to get photographed with his mistress is a lower level of security than the health status of a British Royal. William had Covid for a month and nobody knew a thing until he released the news. Likewise, look what an impeccable, airtight job the family is doing in keeping the origins (or not) and existence (or not) of Archie, alleged 7th in line to the throne under wraps. If any of the senior royals have a serious medical condition, I don't see why this American tabloid would get the scoop over everyone else in the worldwide media. Their other political scoops were American figures, after all.


. He comes across as a strong man of body with a lot of lead in his pencil as it were. (Well not like THAT, but maybe so!)

Yes, 'robust' is a good word for William. I'm sure his pencil is well-leaded. Look at the size of his hands! Compare with the reedy size and pallor of Hazza's hands, which are positively Clintonian . .and he's always worrying them, usually. Harry has a giant chip on his shoulder about more than just his place in the birth order. Oh, yes. His conduct is not that of a man who is confident or endowed in ANY area of life. I'd lay my pension on this flight with Markle being overcompensation for so many deficiencies, only some of which are visible with clothes on. Harry's pencil is more golf-sized, is my guess.


Pantsface said…
Wasn't there a kill (ie not to be published) instruction on the last Sussex "Christmas Card" or am I imagining that? Anyway who on earth announces that there will be an annoucement shortly!
@Pantsface

yes last year's Christmas card had a kill order attached (IIRC). The thinking was because it had possibly been hacked and animation was added. Or maybe they put in the animation and it was "not well received".
Maneki Neko said…
"Meghan Markle was humiliated this week after a poll found that 89% of Brits aren't interested in her and Harry's "woke" podcast."

The article shows the results of an opinion poll by YouGov. No surprises there

https://www.themix.net/2020/12/meghan-markle-humiliated-after-poll-finds-89-of-brits-arent-interested-in-her-and-harrys-woke-podcast/
SwampWoman said…
Hikari says: If any of the senior royals have a serious medical condition, I don't see why this American tabloid would get the scoop over everyone else in the worldwide media. Their other political scoops were American figures, after all.

They used to have a number of Brits (or at least British born) on the staff. (I don't know if they do anymore.) The staff seem to be enjoined by the new management from doing the "gotcha" political ambushes that earned them fame in the past. It *could* be a tip from a former colleague in England that can't print it, so they passed it on in return for dirt on a pol like Eric Swalwell and Fang Fang (for example). I don't know, but somehow I picture the British reporters as being somewhat above the sewer slime that ours are.

I personally *think* that it is a poisoned dart from Megsy delivered by "a friend".
lizzie said…
@jdubya ,

Thanks for the PageSix link.

What in the world is M wearing? According to online sources, it was in the upper 50's on Sunday in LA. Cool but not winter hat/fur trimmed parka weather. M looks like she's dressing the way she dressed in Toronto in winter! (While in the UK she ran around in sleeveless outfits and bare legs in winter...)
SwampWoman said…
lizzie said: What in the world is M wearing? According to online sources, it was in the upper 50's on Sunday in LA. Cool but not winter hat/fur trimmed parka weather. M looks like she's dressing the way she dressed in Toronto in winter! (While in the UK she ran around in sleeveless outfits and bare legs in winter...)

I may be off base here but, if she wanted to encourage more "is she or isn't she" speculation about pregnancy, disguising her middle with a jacket would be the way to go. She WANTS eyes on her. Probably called a pap. Alternatively, just normal merching?
Re Page 6 photos: I have to laugh. He's out in what is essentially only a thin tshirt and she's dressed for the arctic complete with high boots, heavy parka and a ski hat. She's so dumb. Talk about trying too hard. She just does not think things through.

AnT, I loved your Christmas card setup! You are very talented. "Good balls" was a great typo. Cheers.
AnT said…
I own that coat. It is thick sturdy blanket-like wool. I agree with the new comment on the J Crew website that says it will be good for a Minnesota winter. There is no way I would wear it on a pleasant day in Beverly Hills unless it was somehow winter cold out and I was heading for Christmas at Tahoe. No, I would actually not wear it until arrival. There are too many high fabric choice in outerwear to clomp around in a somewhat throwback wool coat on a not-cold day. This is like the Uggs boots craze of the early 2000s...thick shearling boots in summer. All her references for style are so dated.

J Crew is having a tough year, so they may have given her something for the wear. But thus heavy dark wool hat and thick black tunic

—- Just got off a call I was waiting for from a friend in Naples, Florida who grew up in Beverly Hills and so yah, friends, you know I asked her to look up the photo as we talked. She said “oh no, what is this woman doing?” She said: You might wear a cotton shell parka like this if you’re 22 with long bare tanned legs, but never this heavy wintery wool version and bundled up look “unless you are in San Francisco in January.” She plans to call her sister and ask about Sunday’s weather. She laughed tsk tsk tsk. She said “is she trying to look like she is on set at 4 a.m. in Vancouver? Her husband looks embarrassed. Well, there’s probably something wrong with her.”

As usual M looks badly styled. So my guess she did this herself to try to help SS intrigue J Crew again. Look at that dangling wig hair.

Why is she doing this kind of nonsense if she is a multimillionaire Netflix producer? Too tired will readdress in the morning.

SwampWoman said…
How do we even know that is Meghan? Everything is covered, eyes, face, long jacket obscuring body build, boots...the only thing that we fixate on is the too-long wig. She might be buried in the damn desert. Unmarked grave out past Terlingua.

/With apologies to dialogue from "Shooter" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn60YWO218k

Whenever something disappears around here, be it a phone, shoe, or remote, it's always buried in the damn desert, unmarked grave out past Terlingua.
Louise said…
SwampWoman said...

" How do we even know that is Meghan? Everything is covered, eyes, face, long jacket obscuring body build, boots...the only thing that we fixate on is the too-long wig"

I recognize her hands. Her fingers (especially her thumb) are quite unusual in that the distal phalanges ("tips") are extended back instead of flexed as in other people.

Look at her thumb in picture 5 on the page 6 story.
Louise said…
In that winter get up with hat and sunglasses, she is reminding me more and more of Michael Jackson.
Fifi LaRue said…
Markle makes sure that Harry is always five steps behind.
Girl with a Hat said…
does anyone here give any credence to the theory that both Meghan and Harry's ears are sometimes different so people are saying body doubles?

There's the photo of her handing out the food with her mask on and people are saying her ears in that picture are different than they usually look.
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Mimi said…
Until she does the “official coat flick” she is not,pregnant! 😂
jessica said…
Harry looks like a deer in headlights running away. He clearly knows it’s a paid pap shot product placement and isn’t even hiding it. It’s like he learned of it right as they were leaving and he asked her why she looked like she got dressed in the dark. I do think this world is entirely new to him. “People court paparazzi? For funzies?’ ‘But Meghan, they killed my mum’ I cannot imagine the absolute hell she is putting this guy through.

And also, how is this sustainable. ‘Really unattractive D-List couple and queen insulters go for a jaunt around Beverley Hills looking on edge, mismatched, and confused all seen here first in Page Six!’

This is getting embarrassing. Bring back some real celebs. These two fakers need to beg to go back to the RF and get a reputation that means something. I’ve never seen a more boring misplaced photo shoot. There’s little chance this sells anything
Crumpet said…
@swampwoman
Whoa. Interesting re thumb. I think it is her..she is not looking at the camera though hairy is, interestingly enough...
@jessica...yes her market are folks in US, Canada who are mostly in winter weather areas...lots of other celebs papped with winter coats, plus pregnant Eug wearing hers. I am just surprised we really have seen so few of these around LA shots from Madam.
Crumpet said…
So far, the real royals have
sent out outdoorsy, casual snaps for Xmas cards...the Wessex card on a hay bale, W and C in front of a wood pile, Charles and Camilla in a garden on a bench. I doubt they are coordinating, but who knows.


xxxxx said…
Crumpet said...
So far, the real royals have
sent out outdoorsy, casual snaps for Xmas cards...the Wessex card on a hay bale, W and C in front of a wood pile, Charles and Camilla in a garden on a bench. I doubt they are coordinating, but who knows.


Outdoorsy and sporty (as Katherine has and her wear has often been described) is the way to go in Covid times. Get outdoors! Even if you are inside working for 8 hours. Get outdoors and breath in deeply all the fresh air.

The older Royals love mixing their country horsey lives with their city mingling. Just look how princess Ann lives with sheep and livestock on her estate. I really like how Charles has kept his organic endeavors going and very much expanding during this last miserable year.


(we have 15 mango trees)
Crumpet said…
@xxxxx

Did not think about the whole Covid get outside thing, but makes sense. 15 mango 🥭 trees. Well you are not walking around in a parka and hat....
I think AnT will be right Madam's card will probably have some type of food theme...Madam being such an incredible food influencer that she is...I suspect there will be some Archwell cookie packets to merch...
Maneki Neko said…
She wears that thick parka in mild weather but look at what she was two years ago (18 December 2018) in the UK. Scroll do past the 2 photos of the Cambridges and Wessexes and look at Megsy, particularly photos 5 and 6.

https://monstermarkle.tumblr.com/
That side-view is bizarre - her boobs are pressed up towards her chin, she seem to have a spare tyre round the back, and the `baby bump' looks more like a large biscuit tin (MacVitie's `Family Circle'?) `stuck up her jumper', as we used to say.

The outline of her upper abdomen is dead straight - I didn't think there was a single straight line anywhere on the human body.

Was the `What the Dickens does she think she looks like?' look a deliberate 2 fingers to the RF?

Could it have been dear June Whitfield that said, in reply to `I'm feeling very pregnant today',

`Yes, dear, we do read the newspapers...'?

It's a riposte straight from the mouth of her character, Gran, in Ab Fab.
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Sylvia said…
Latest PR from Harkles
Spologies it's from the uk Sun

26 Mins ago

MEGHAN MARKLE AND PRINCE HARRY WILL HOST HIS NEW 'FATHER FIGURE' OVER CHRISTMAS

MEGAN MARKLE and Prince Harry will reportedly be hosting his new father figure David Foster and his wife, singer Katharine McPhee for Christmas dinner.

The pair will invite the Foster and Mcphee to their £11million pad for the festive occasion, according to reports.

Harry and Foster enjoy "a really, really beautiful relationship like father and son", according to Mcphee.

Reports also claim that Megan's mum will be present at the affair.

A source close to the the Sussexes told Marie Claire: She’s really excited and is planning on doing all the traditions she grew up with as a child, including the cooking
Sylvia said…


GOING POSTAL Meghan and Harry latest – Christmas DISASTER as Prince William and Kate make major error with Harry and Meghan’s gifts

Justin Lawrence

11:25, 22 Dec 2020Updated: 11:25, 22 Dec 2020

A ROYAL disaster is looming after William and Kate reportedly posted their Christmas gifts to Harry and Meghan too late for them to arrive.

According to Hollywood Access, both couples decided to post their gifts to one another this Christmas as they weren't going to be seeing each other.

But that was reportedly before the new super-spreading mutant strain of coronavirus hit the UK - throwing postal services into total crisis.

As a result there's a good chance William and Kate's gift won't actually leave the UK in time in time for Harry, Meghan and Archie to enjoy whatever they've been given in California this Christmas day

Presents - oh dear, what a pity. Archie will be so disappointed...
lizzie said…
As of December 21, Santa Barbara county (where Montecito is located) is on Tier 1 restrictions re: COVID. https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/santa-barbara-county/

Among other things that means

"Residents are asked to stay at home. All gatherings with members of other households are prohibited."

I assume this applies to real mothers who live in other households as well as to fake fathers and their wives who do. Not that the rules apply to H&M...
JHanoi said…
that sausage dress was an extremely poor choice in clothing for a public event!!
did her advisors ‘let her fail’, or was she to ‘know it all’ not to listen to them?

i do think MM was preggers and had archie.

that said, that is not a maternity dress! WTH was she thinking, attempting to squeeze her weight gaining pregnant body into that fitted/ structured bodice that appears woven and therefore has no-give like a knit? it’s so ill-fitting it’s bunched up over her fat/ small belly bump. it’s so tight it flattens her belly and boobs into flat surfaces, her boobs are pushed up to her chin! ok, really her colarbone..... she’s very very lucky she didn’t spilt the seams of that dress. it was atrocious...

did she know it looked awful? did she have an aide or PH or maid to tell her? was it an attempt to embarass PC to get a bigger clothing budget? or was it just a lack of a mirror, lack of fashion sense, and lack of self-awareness?


lizzie said…
@Jhanoi wrote:

"that sausage dress was an extremely poor choice in clothing for a public event!!
did her advisors ‘let her fail’, or was she to ‘know it all’ not to listen to them?....did she know it looked awful?"

She must have known it was extraordinarily tight just by the feel even if she had no mirror (as if she hangs out anywhere without mirrors!) IF she really was pregnant (I'm not convinced) I don't understand how her body could be made to take on that odd contorted shape.

Some have suggested it was just merching but who would buy a dress that looked like that? I suppose she could have been delusional enough to think people would buy just because she wore it even though it looked like crap.

Personally, I think she was pissed off that she was asked to make that sort of visit. It wasn't glam enough for her. And while it made sense (to me) to ask her to visit given her supposed background and interests, I suspect she knew those retired British actors weren't likely to be in awe of her alleged acting talent. Nor were they going to be impressed with "woke word salad" like some teenagers seem to be. So she dressed horribly and tried to make the visit all about her pregnancy.
Hikari said…
Re. Gift imbroglio

In the earlier article Mentioned here about the gift exchange, the story closed with the line that sums up all we need to know. “Kensington Palace declined to comment.” We can read that as “Never happened; complete bollocks; we will never respond, but just let them continue to twist in the wind with their increasingly desperate and pathetic schemes.“ The Queen made the Crown’s position clear when Harkle and Farkle left; She promised that there will be no comment forthcoming about anything to do with them and she’s kept her word. Two junior employees who quit their jobs without notice and run away after embezzling millions in company funds and making the shareholders really unhappy do not rate comment from the CEO. They are nothing, not worthy of notice or mention. That is the official view, and you can bet that is making Narkle Markle incandescent with rage at being ignored.

As for the outfit on the most recent pap stroll, I think the coat, which looked very likely to be designed to encourage speculation about a bump underneath the black jumper she was wearing...Princess Eugenie’s photo of her appropriate to London winter attire over her real and healthy bump Appeared just a day or two ago. Blatant aping. Markle has a great many concurrent layers of mental illness going on. Even if merching or invoking pregnancy rumors were the aim, Bundling up in that outfit in sunny LA where it’s 80° is whack. Especially since she’s walking side-by-side with H in a short sleeve thin shirt. Consistently dressing inappropriately for the weather conditions is a sign of mental disturbance. What were the two eco warrior humanitarians doing strolling around Beverly Hills, an hour away from their home? Were there no strolling and papping opportunities in Montecito? Unless of course one is inclined to believe that they were not in Beverly Hills, or for that matter they’re not in Montecito either. They posed in front of some greenery add an undisclosed location, with no proof that it is in fact Beverly Hills.

Poor Archie wee Bairn.. He never gets an outing in the fresh air and sunshine, And now he won’t have any gift from uncle William and aunt Kate on Christmas day either.

Sylvia said…



The Frogmore.moving in out saga is still news




Eugenie's Frogmore exit 'not unexpected' as Princess struck special deal with cousin HarryPRINCESS EUGENIE's hasty moving in and out of Frogmore Cottage has raised questions over the royal's plans for her family home as commentators revealed the exit may have been part of an "arrangement" with Prince Harry.

By NAOMI ADEDOKUN

10:21, Tue, Dec 22, 2020 | UPDATED: 11:52, Tue, Dec 22, 2020

1

Princess Eugenie's Frogmore situation discussed by experts

 

Prince Harry would have known about Princess Eugenie's plans in regard to Frogmore Cottage beforehand, royal commentators have insisted. Eugenie has reportedly already moved out of the Sussexes' Windsor property just six weeks after initially moving in with her husband, Jack Brooksbank. Royally Obsessed podcast hosts Roberta Fiorito and Rachel Bowie discussed why this "mysterious exit" may have come about.





Ms Fiorito told listeners: "We just recently talked about Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank moving to Frogmore Cottage.

"Well apparently they were there for six weeks, and they've moved out or temporarily left.

"We don't really know, the details are super spotty.



"But they've moved back to Ivy Cottage at Kensington Palace."





Eugenie's Frogmore exit 'not unexpected' as princess struck special deal with cousin Harry

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Ms Bowie said: 'Harry and Eugenie had worked out an arrangement so this is not unexpected

Ms Bowie said: "Is it haunted? A lot of tabloids coined it as a 'mysterious exit'.

"For all we know, their plan was always to go back and forth, but it's weird.

"I read somewhere that Harry and Eugenie had worked out an arrangement so this is not unexpected.

"I do think that Harry and Eugenie have obviously communicated in these past few weks

Ms Bowie said: 'Harry and Eugenie have obviously communicated in these past few weeks.' (Image: GETTY)

Meghan Markle and Harry: Experts on Eugenie living at Frogmore

AnT said…
My FL friend just emailed me — Okay, her sister in Beverly Hills says it was about 80 F on Sunday, and over 70 F the day before. No one would have been dressed like this.

She also added that there is a red level stay at home order in Los Angeles and wonders why they would have travelled into Bev Hills for a pap shot, as that is non-essential business. She feels they flouted rules or were not there.

One more thought from the sister, whose husband is in the industry: the Harkles “are absolutely no one” out there.
AnT said…
I agree with everyone’s comments about fingers: I think that those are definitely her odd long bent tip fingers, so it is likely Meghan burrowing inside all that desperate outerwear on a warm day.

However, you can persuade me that that isn’t Harry.

With the two Harrys, the ears, shoes,,baseball cap and torso shape are the giveaways.
Hikari said…
@Sylvia

I see the 'Eugenie Deserts FrogCott after only six weeks!!!' mill is still grinding.

Let's look at what we know for certain:

1. Eugenie is a respectful granddaughter to the Queen. The two have a good relationship. Eugenie also appears to be quite grounded and sensible. Does making a clandestine, sneaky real estate deal with her disgraced cousin who abandoned his duties and left under a cloud of petulance and a missing 2.4 million pounds seem like it would be in character?

2. On the other hand, Harry's wife, and him, by extension, just lurve to make sneaky surprises that 'blindside' members of the family. It is their entire MO. Not only does Frogmore have a tainted association on account of the Harkles' shenanigans surrounding this property, making it, one would assume, a rather unappealing destination for a princess who is in good favor, but Eugenie is surely smart enough to know that she'd have to get approval from the appropriate landlord, HMTQ, before striking any subletting deals with Harry.

3. Given that the official stance of ALL the palaces since the Sandringham Summit in January has been a consistent 'No comment whatsoever' viz. anything to do with HAMS . . is it really plausible that so many 'royal commentators' have so much detailed knowledge about private conversations that may or may not have taken place between Eugenie and her cousin, what any terms were, or indeed, Eugenie and Jack's movements? It's absurd.

4. 'Royal commentator' only means someone who is paid, often rather handsomely, by a media outlet to 'commentate' upon the Royals . .that is, offer opinions disguised as substantiated facts, all for the purpose of garnering clicks and spinning sales for their employers. Oh My Scrofulous, aka The Plastic Fantastic, Omid Scobie, is a Royal commentator, as are bunches of others whose parent companies apparently receive kickbacks from Markle's PR firms. Being a Royal commentator does not give one particular insights into the Royal mind. They are journalists who are trying to do a job and make money, with a specialty in Royal watching. They've got the same legitimate statements issuing from the households to work with as we do--which is to say---none. They are shooting in the dark. Maybe they hope that some of their guesses get lucky, but either way, if people read their articles, whether true or not, it's all the same. Money is being made and employment retained. To assert that 'Harry and Eugenie have *obviously* communicated over these last few weeks' is pure speculation on the commentator's part. Absent a statement from Eugenie herself--Harry being an untrustworthy source--I will continue in my disbelief that Eugenie has had anything to do with Frogmore Cottage, either moving in or out.

She was photographed 48 hours ago or less leaving work at her art gallery in London. She is getting very close to the birth of her baby, possibly within the next 4-6 weeks. Would she choose to start commuting to and from Windsor *right now*, and leave a convenient access to her doctor and hospital of choice?
Hikari said…

Perhaps Eugenie and Jack have looked at FroggyCott as a prospective place to raise their family and had only reconnoitered the place; maybe stayed the week-end a few times, just to see what it's like, with any permanent move postponed until the baby is born. That would be the sensible course. There is also the distinct possibility that the Cottage is still under renovation/in disarray and is in no condition to be move-in ready any time soon. After all, it's not like Harry and Meghan ever lived there. Even if it was ever finished (doubtful), it's been vacant for a year and there must be things that need addressing before it can be occupied.

'Cui bono--Who benefits?' In whose interest is it to be seen as still relevent/wielding power as a member of the Royal family to grant the use of Crown Estate properties to other people, as a 'boon'? Harry. The Harkles are once again trying to control the spin on a story they wish to promote--that they still 'own' Frogmore Cottage and they can 'give' or 'lend' it to anyone they like; they can also drop in and stay there whenever they like because it's 'their property'. It is not. They are out; they have lost the Cottage, if it was ever theirs to lose . . The Queen was giving them the right to live in it as grace and favor, in exchange for rent which they never paid. They did never own that house, and I'm leaning toward the Queen being so displeased with Harry that she relegated him to a staff flat at Frogmore and not the entire house. The Queen is frugal and sees more benefit in retaining the building as 5 residences for staff, rather than remaking the home over again into a single family home at obscene cost for a little toerag and his wife that were never in the tent, but were disrespecting her and the monarchy since they were dating.

Where Frogmore is concerned, the 'experts' are not talking. They are all within Palace walls and they have refused to speak on the matter. So, caveat lector . .we really can't believe anything we read about Harry and Smeghan. They buy lies for print, that's what she does.
lizzie said…
@AnT wrote,

"My FL friend just emailed me — Okay, her sister in Beverly Hills says it was about 80 F on Sunday, and over 70 F the day before. No one would have been dressed like this."

Earlier I had found a weather site that listed 59 as the high for Sunday in LA. But even if that was right, no need for M's wintery outfit. Looking at this site though for all of Dec 2020 for Beverly Hills specifically:

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@5328041/historic?month=12&year=2020

The coolest days so far were Dec 11 and 17. Highs of 63 and lows in the low 50s at night. Still no need for M's arctic outfit. Even if she wanted to provide pregnancy speculation, I'd think she'd have a lighter looking jacket (like loose corduroy, maybe) and if her hair needed hiding, a hat besides a winter beanie. Odd, just odd.
AnT said…
Lizzie,

No idea, just repeating what her sister said. And yes, even if in the sixties F there, why the heavy winter cocoon — with a wool beanie.

It is amusing to think of her stupidly walking around dressed like a fool to promote a very basic, sale-priced jacket, while Handbag lopes along in his new summer shirt.

Even funnier — if not a pap shot, which i firmly believe it was — to think of her grotty bent mind thinking that she is such a big celeb, she has to hide in heavy winter layers to avoid being noticed....”0h,isn’t that the woman who gave fifty dollars to promote a fattening high carb oat latte!? Wow!” while a tall “pale male” ginger who is an actual prince strolling right alongside. Such an idiot, really.

If it is the beginning of her next fake pregnancy story......sad.

Girl with a Hat said…
Well, since no one answered my question about body doubles, I will answer it myself.

I don't think that there body doubles. People who look like Meghan are pretty hard to find, what with her square torso and skinny legs. I think the differences in the ears are due to lighting.

As for Harry, it wouldn't surprise me if she made him wear brown contact lenses to create some mystery and confusion about him. I think he goes along with it because he believes in her methods. Again, people have pointed out issues with his ears in various photos, saying that there is a discrepancy, but I donèt really see it.
@Sylvie said
"A source close to the the Sussexes told Marie Claire: She’s really excited and is planning on doing all the traditions she grew up with as a child, including the cooking"

Does this "source close to the Sussexes" also know that Grip considered the BRF "the family she never had"? How does one have all the traditions if she never had a close family?

Lie like a rug when needed.
@ lizzie: Apparently she was wearing that outfit (more appropriate for Alaska than LA) because she was merching it - the parka is by J. Crew. What a comedown - she went from wearing couture Dior and Givenchy to merching a mass-market retailer. But hey, she doesn't have to follow the BRF's stuffy rules anymore, so it was all worth it, right, Megs? And JH - is that how you envisioned your glamorous and exciting life in California, trailing behind your wife while she merches parkas and powdered lattes?
Hikari said…
Re. the Sausage Dress at the actors' home

This was The Moment for me. When she got out of the car at St. George's Chapel for Eugenie's wedding in that gargantuan (open) navy coat, I suspected that she was faking. The couple was definitely having an argument in the stalls as they waited for the bride. In Australia, Bump behaved rather strangely, at times disappearing completely, others, looking like she was 6 months along (aka, Fiji state dinner, where a large bump was seen under the loose-fitting blue dress.) With Zika cases rampant in the region, it's quite ODD to say the least that the Crown would have approved such a long flight and grueling travel where birth defect-causing virus carrying mosquitoes were a published concern for the WHO. If the Queen felt that the pregnancy was legitimate and in its second trimester, as claimed by MM, surely HM would have grounded her out of caution, following the prevailing medical advice.

HM let Meg go, which frankly says to me, "We know you are telling porkies so We do not care what you do."

There was a possibility, however reckless it would have been, that MM was pregnant very early and was using padding to get attention for her condition that was otherwise far too early to tell.

I scotched that idea, though, when she turned up at the actors' home with a SQUARE pillow that deflated when she sat down. Supposing that she were pregnant and used bumps of wildly varying sizes to accessorize herself--at some point the real pregnancy would have asserted itself according to the laws of physics. Simple as. In late March 2019, in her very last public appearance prior to disappearing for the next seven weeks, Markle crouched down to the pavement outside of NZ House, to lay flowers. She was allegedly 8 months pregnant and wearing 4 inch heels. She crouched effortlessly and popped back up again like a rubber ball requiring zero assistance of any kind. Had she genuinely been that heavily pregnant, her shifted center of gravity would have made this impossible.

Yoga, my ascot.
Girl with a Hat said…
yes, the square pillow did it for me as well.

Previously, I thought the varying size of her bump was due to lighting or the angle of the photo. I found it odd but was not convinced that she would do something as crazy as fake a pregnancy.

The square pillow really couldn't be explained away.
Mel said…
I still wonder if she wasn't pregnant at her wedding. Remember the look they exchanged when something was said about children. There was some secret knowledge they were sharing there.

Hard to say if it was that they planned to use a surrogate, she was already pregnant, or some other thing. But there was something that only they knew, and they smiled at each other about their secret knowledge, their delight in having kept the knowledge of whatever it was from becoming known.

If she was pregnant at the wedding, possibly she miscarried after that.

It's also possible that she lied to Harry about being pregnant before the wedding, and then lied about a miscarriage later.

Whatever secret they were sharing doesn't have to have been true. She just made Harry think it was true.
@Mel

Remember she went solo back to North America a few weeks after the wedding. I suppose the look was that they were already planning on a surrogate as she had said in the past she was unable (more likely unwilling) to have children. I reference the "contract" with Trevor, should she get pregnant, of all the nutritionists, trainers, plastic surgery, etc she would require. lotta love there.
Opus said…
As I entered Tesco today I checked the headlines on the papers (by the door) and the Mail has a photo of nine Royals with the comment that and in breach of P.M. Johnson's restrictive rules there are too many of them too close together or it might have been that they were from different bubbles. Of course when I enter Tesco I wear my mask - or rather as I will not wear a face-nappy, I wear my see-through robo-cop-style head-gear. What I observe is that no one takes any notice of the six-foot rule neither customers nor staff and I deduce that this is because having been forced to wear a mask they assume that they are safe from Rona. I don't believe it. The government who remind me of the boy who cried wolf were so over the top at the start of this that people now as they must just get on with their lives - what is left for them to get on with - plus the mask. If Masks were not obligatory people might keep their distance a little better but as it is a mask gives, in my view, an entirely false sense of security.

From the picture, the Royals looked more than adequately spread out. In any other year their distancing would not even have been noted.
lizzie said…
@AnT,

Sorry, I wasn't disputing what the sister said about the temp in BH, just that LA proper reported a lower temp on some weather sites-- but those temps were still relatively balmy. The BH site I gave the link for above agrees with the sister--- high of 72 on Saturday and 81 on Sunday. Practically tropical. If she wore that outfit over the weekend she must have been sweating bullets.
AnT said…
Just had a thought.

Anyone else here familiar with the classic old Jimmy Stewart movie “Harvey”, about an eccentric man who believes he has a giant invisible rabbit friend, named Harvey,,..that only he can see and talk to?

I feel like Harry has become Megs’ invisible sidekick, her own big Harvey....following unseen as she cartwheels along her peculiar path.
AnT said…
@lizzie -

Please, no worry! I didn’t take it that way, and we are all here just discussing things for fun. Every bit of information we can find helps form a clearer concept of what may be going on. I have no way of knowing if my friend’s sister was accurate, so any other input is great!

And yes, even at 60F or 50F, what on earth. I am always cold, and even I wouldn’t drown myself in wool that way on a nice day.

Grisham said…
@mel I did feel like she might have been pregnant at the wedding given the extra fabric and the way the dress lay on her midsection. It seemed like it was loose there for a reason.
ReallyDonna said…
@Opus-the clear visor over your face is useless. Please wear a proper mask, or face-nappie.
Grisham said…
@hikari, Harry had a long sleeve Henley type of shirt as did the body guard, and in Beverly Hills, on December 19, the low was 45 degrees in the morning, so chilly. (But not coat and knee high boot weather, I agree). It was likely around 55+ degrees on their outing.
lizzie said…
@tatty wrote:

"I did feel like she might have been pregnant at the wedding given the extra fabric and the way the dress lay on her midsection. It seemed like it was loose there for a reason."

Yeah, maybe. But it seemed to me the Stella McCartney 2nd dress worn that night was much more form-fitting. Not much room to hide a bump. Maybe she told Keller to leave the main dress loose? Didn't we read in one of those summer books that her fitting for the main dress was weeks before the event? That's not the way it's done in my neck of the woods. And there has to be some explanation for the poor fit.
Grisham said…
I forgot to add the link to the weather highs and lows for Beverly Hills weather this month: https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/beverly-hills/90210/december-weather/332045
AnT said…
When I saw her big, poor-fitting wedding gown, and then the look they exchanged, I thought hmm.

The slim pretty evening reception dress she wore when they drove off in the Jag Zero told me: nope.

She always messes her game up by having no follow through or attention to detail. Hence the slingshotting between big bump, no bump, round bump, square bump, inflated, deflated....

I think she lives in the impulsive moment, torn between whipping up speculation and posing cute for the paps. Bump on for NYC paps, bump off for NYC drinks and dance evening with Markus. Huge pre-planned maternity coat to wreck a wedding, flat stomach for the paps in Australia hours later. She is a head case and a liar. There is no straight line or sense to be made.

AnT said…
@lizzie, lol, great minds! Echoed your thought.
Crumpet said…
@AnT

Re Harvey 😂. More like Archie the invisible baby. But we also know that Madam has no problem talking with all sorts of invisible people as well.

Jimmy Stewart one of the all time greatest actors, along w Carey Grant.
Girl with a Hat said…
The low temperatures are in the middle of the night. The minute the sun rises, the temperatures usually increase unless a major cold front is arriving but we know that's not the case for L.A. that day since the high was in the 80's.
Girl with a Hat said…
here is a graph of the temperatures recorded in L.A. throughout the day. By 8 a.m., it was in the 70's.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/los-angeles/historic
Girl with a Hat said…
maybe Meghan is going through menopause. That would explain a lot of things.


Notice I didn't say "early" menopause.
Hikari said…
@GWaH,

yes, the square pillow did it for me as well.

Previously, I thought the varying size of her bump was due to lighting or the angle of the photo. I found it odd but was not convinced that she would do something as crazy as fake a pregnancy.

The square pillow really couldn't be explained away.


There was just so much wrong that day. Square Bump was the worst, but even without it, there was so much else. The design and style is suitable for a young woman, and I mean someone in the 18-25 year old age range. A young slender woman of 22, attending a garden party *in the summer*--it'd be lovely. It didn't suit Meg's coloring or body type at all, even if it had been the appropriate size. She obviously had the dress prior to deciding to be 'so pregnant today'. She might have looked OK in it had it fit. But it's definitely a summer dress. The dress was too small, but the gray wool overcoat flapping over the top was too big. The shoes were . . .beige? Also summery for the occasion. At this juncture, I did not understand that she was merching these items. I figured a Duchess of the United Kingdom, and furthermore one who had had her own lifestyle blog and 10 years as a working actress ('working' being somewhat relative) would know how to pick out quality pieces. More quizzical still, this was her first solo engagement since she'd been married--and THIS was how she chose to put herself together?

The inside photos were worse. For someone who has ostensibly studied yoga and movement for many years, Markle is so clumsy and uncomfortable in her body. Her posture is terrible. Everything just defied belief, but little did we know she was just getting started.

The moment that I would have thought constituted crossing the Rubicon was some 8 months later at the polo ground as Madam walked around like the Spectre at the Feast/Madwoman of Chaillot in the green bivouac tent holding an inert plastic baby. I thought, "She's finally done it--we have incontrovertible evidence that this grasping bunt is insane. Surely the Family has to do something now? There was nothing normal going on there, as the faces of the onlookers can attest. Mrs. Gilkes looks absolutely utterly horrified as she gazes at Meghan Madonna and her 'baby'. The Duchess of Cambridge looks more bemused. She was more used to Meg's little bids for attention, but really, this was a new low.

She's barking. Poor Diana seems quite nearly rational next to this.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari, look for the videos of the appearance at the polo taken from afar. She looks absolutely manic looking out for the photographers.

I acted like that once, after I had been in a hold up, and hours later, had to show up later for someone's birthday party. I was always checking the entrance for danger. In her case, it wasn't trauma, but obsession for attention that was driving her manic checking of the photographers. And, she acts like that every.single.day. We only see the still photos but if we were given access to the video of her latest appearance in Beverly Hills, for example, we would really be able to analyse her psychological problems.
Grisham said…
Beverly Hills is not LA
Grisham said…
It was around 60 at noon in Beverly Hills on the 18th and 19th ( was the pic on Saturday or Sunday?)

So a bit chilly for some... Harry and the PO were dressed appropriately: jeans, long sleeve shirt, caps. MM is inappropriate with parka, knee high boots, winter beanie hat.

The weather peaked at noon, so it was in the 50s most of the daylight shopping hours. I get chilling in the 50s, so I would have had a sweater or light jacket on.
Grisham said…
I believe a part of IVF involves chemical menopause (people who have experience can clarify), otherwise saying someone is in menopause and not early menopause means you are saying she is 50-52 years old. Lol.
Miggy said…
RE: The missing leg... and other things.

https://twitter.com/things_royal/status/1341341332128862209
lizzie said…
@tatty,

This link seems to show a peak on Sunday in BH of 81. The photo was purportedly taken Sunday.
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@5328041/historic?month=12&year=2020
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Technically early menopause occurs at 41-45. Premature is earlier than that. I don't think M is older than 45! ALL her family photos would have to be fake including those with half-sibs.
Grisham said…
You can see his other leg— it looks like a large seam on her jeans.
Re badly fitting & seasonally inappropriate clobber:

Didn't we decide that she wears whatever she's sent to merch, whether it fits or not, regardless of the time of year, because the fashion world operates at least 6 months ahead of real time?

Yep, the `procreation smirk' which made me think `Aye-aye - she's preggers', was a piece of real `duper's delight'.


OT- for Opus, I'm sad to say.

Masks are to protect other folk from infected droplets the wearer may be exhaling/ sneezing/blasting/spitting/coughing; they aren't intended to protect the wearer.

A visor will only protect the wearer from someone firing droplets or gobs of saliva at them - the eyes are another possible port of entry for microbes - with a delicate, damp, membrane that bugs cam make whoopee on. They don't protect the wearer from whatever's floating around in the air.

My husband now wears mask and safety specs; I wear specs anyway plus a mask.

Unfortunately exercising one's `freedom/rights' by not wearing a a mask impinges on the freedom/rights of others to be protected.

Like my choice/right to sling a punch or to smoke ends at your nose - and, I believe, vice versa.

Sorry about that.
Grisham said…
@lizzie, how odd, this is the link I used: https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@5328046/historic
I guess it depends on what part of Beverly Hills they were in. Nevertheless, we all agree she is the odd one out for dress.
lizzie said…
@tatty,

Your link says "Beverly Hills Park." I don't know where that is relative to "Beverly Hills" but yes, either way very odd outfit!
@Opus

please remember there are those on this blog that have lost people to "rona". show some respect.

"I will not wear a face-nappy,"--its only a face-nappy if you're a sh*t head.

apologies to the moderators
Christine said…
Hikari- Sorry you posted this quite a few comments up but there have been some past photos of Wills in tighter slacks and yes.... many commenters pointed out that it looked like he was 'blessed' LOL. I recall William had altered his wardrobe and was wearing some wonderfully tailored, modern clothing. That clothing included some skinnier, tighter legged pants and he filled them out quite well. *blushes*

So Omid opened his trap somewhere, I think on Twitter, and was griping about the Cambridges and Edward's family ignoring the supposed 'rule of six' and how it if was Meghan and Harry ignoring it, they'd be lambasted. I'm sure Meghan texted him at 3 inthe morning furious telling him to say that. This new offensive to attack the Cambridges appears to be back firing if the DM is any gage of it. The commenters seem overwhelmingly to either A. Not Care, B. Be glad that William's and Edward's families are doing something fun and Christmasy or C. Think the rule of 6 is total b.s. Your offensive isn't really working Meghan.
Grisham said…
It’s a cashmere beanie! Makes me sweat thinking about it.
@tatty

well of course its cashmere! Grip would never wear something as low class (because everybody loves classy) as a commoner's wool "beanie"
Hikari said…
@Christine

Re. William's basket

I have known him since before he was born and his Mum was flinging herself down the stairs with abandon, so I feel like a filthy old lady for speculating upon the Cambridge family jewels. But all indicators is that Wills is abundantly endowed with testosterone and all that goes along with it. Little brother would seem to be deficient. Poor old Hazza just has d!ck all to offer any one, in any capacity and that's why he was so vulnerable to this grifter's con. He's in desperate need of propping up.

I've seen the pictures of the Cambridge-Wessex family walk. 'Royals' XMas Blunderland!' screams the DM. I can only see backs, and I assume that nobody is masked up since they are walking outside in brisk nighttime December air. Which of the two children needed to be left at home to make up the quota of 6? This kind of activity is a pretty low risk. Considering the senior royal status of these two couples, and the fact that William had Covid already, this group probably gets tested frequently. And now that it's holiday break, they are sequestered from members of the general public. Potentially infecting staff who work for them is a concern but it seems like majoring in minors to me when over in Montecito, Harry and Megs are pictured gamboling around potentially infecting members of the public on their little humanitarian jaunts, and strolling around 'Beverly Hills' on a completely frivolous self-promotional stunt. What about their Covid spreading?

Hikari said…
Which two of the children, that should read. Or is it 3, because there are 5 kids.

Let's just admit that '6' is a completely random number, with no inherent protection in it, which is suddenly negated by the addition of 3 small people.

I hope they had a nice time, because they are certainly paying for it now.
Girl with a Hat said…
check out today's CDAN about how vicious William is for not allowing Harry to get paid for his royal appearances.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/12/blind-item-13_22.html
Girl with a Hat said…
oops, sorry, that would be Charles, not William in that CDAN item.
Opus said…
Females so I am told are risk averse and it is and charitably too that I will put down the outpouring of venom at my super-cool robo-cop visor to fear.

Consider: the number of deaths for those with the Kung Flu was last July approaching zero at which point HMG made masks obligatory since when the number of deaths has gone up and up. Mask wearing it seems to me is like feminism a case of thriving on failure. It doesn't work. The six foot rule which might work is equally without scientific basis being what was recommended in the 1919 Spanish Flu and Spanish Flu died a natural death.

The average age of Coronna death at eighty two is higher than the average age of death. I am sorry that on this occasion I cannot agree with you good ladies.
lizzie said…
@Girl with a Hat wrote about the CDAN blind.

That blind makes no sense to me. It can't be about William as the "second in line." It says "They had been promised money, but were cast aside for two of the siblings of the second in line." William doesn't have two siblings and if he did, one would be Harry.

I think it's not about the BRF personally. Maybe it's about Charles and the York sisters although Charles hasn't been the "second in line" since early 1952. And who are the siblings who grabbed their places? Anne and Edward? Anne was already active as a royal and Edward and Sophie became working royals in 2002. Not only is Sophie not Charles's sibling, the York girls would have been 12 and 14 at the time.

I do think the Yorks got screwed but that blind is goofy if it's about the BRF.
Christine said…
Hikari- Bahahaha! I have known him since before he was born and his Mum was flinging herself down the stairs with abandon, so I feel like a filthy old lady for speculating upon the Cambridge family jewels.

I can picture lovely Magatha now penning a wonderful poem about William's jewels.....

Yeah I think walking in a spread out fashion outside is very low risk. And I suspect the Royals are tested often and in due course.
Henrietta said…
GWAH,

The "second in line" is Wills, not Andrew, who isn't in a position to demand or dictate much of anything these days. Enty may have written this item wrong.

"First in line" is assuredly Charles.
SirStinxAlot said…
@Girl with Hat...brown eyes are co sidereal more photogenic and easy to remember. Police sketches are usually done with brown eyes, just noted as blue in the description. Contacts are pretty easy to buy with or without a prescription.
Jdubya said…
A little OT from CDAN but still possibly RF

Blind Item #13
The second in line, who is vicious, vetoed the idea of the two siblings being paid for their work for the family. They had been promised money, but were cast aside for two of the siblings of the second in line. He loves digging the knife in deep of his brother.

guesses are Charles (incorrectly named 2nd in line) cutting out Eugenie & Beatrice to dig it to his brother Andrew and giving the $ to Anne/Edward for appearances.

I would never refer to PC as vicious (at least doesn't seen to have any backbone) but he does love to cut out Andrew any way he can (mum's favorite).

I also saw some Australian gossip rags headlines about MM storming out and leaving H etc.
Pantsface said…
Going back to the Eugenie Frogmore saga I read somewhere, can't remember where, prob DM that Eugenie and Hubby will be returning to Frogmore once baby is born in early Jan and she will be spending her maternity leave there. Perhaps they are temporarily in London to be close to the hospitals for the imminent birth?
Hikari said…
@Christine

I can picture lovely Magatha now penning a wonderful poem about William's jewels.....

I understand that early baldness actually indicates virility because it is due to an excess of testosterone that makes the hair fall out. William and Uncle Edward must be tigers in the sack . . !

William had such a glorious shock of golden hair as a younger guy. When Gan-Gan commissioned a stamp for his 21st birthday, William was a thing of beauty and definitely the most eligible bachelor in the world. Sadly, it was only three or four years after this that that glorious hair started to leave in earnest. As he gets older, William looks less like his mother and more like the Duke of Edinburgh. The pretty but callow youth has grown up. The hair's gone but he's certainly fit and has more gravitas now as befits a father of three and soon-to-be future Prince of Wales.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Jddubya, that is the second time you ignore my post and post exactly the same thing I did.
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Jdubya said…
Geez, girl with a hat - i was outside shoveling my driveway which has 3 inches of new snow and then came inside for a break. I started cruising different sites & read the above. I then came to this site and saw a ton of new posts and did not take the time to read them and did my post. I am NOT ignoring you, i just have a life and things to do and don't always have time to read every single post on here before i post somehting.

CHILL OUT - maybe come out and help me clear the snow, it's 30 deg F outside. that should chill you out a bit
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@Sally1975.

I too am a little peeved at the BRF and lack of response. Grip and Drip can poo all over the BRF and if they choose not to respond, so be it. What I can not abide is the family standing by silently and letting those two poo all over Canada and the US. Who is next? Australia? New Zealand?

@AnT

Interesting about the Harkles are persons non grata in Hollywood. I've been told the same about Katherine McPhee. She is said to be an absolute night mare to work with, has a very undeserved diva attitude. She does have a beautiful singing voice but only got singing parts due to David. Again, nobody wants to work with her.

To all. It has been said for many, many years that Chuck wants to "stream line" the monarchy and has worked behind the scenes to cut out Andrew's daughters. Pity as at least Eugenie is far better at the job than Drip ever was. Charles originally planned for only William, Harry and their wives to cary out royal duties.

Grip and Drip have proven time and again they are not capable of being "decent" working Royals. Charles is going to have to allow the Yorkies back in (in some capacity) or really cut back on the number of Royal appearances available.

Also, why is Scoobie not crying to the high heavens that the Harkles were out and about (breaking covid rules) for no other reason than to have their pictures taken merching.

And speaking of merching: if I had deals worth £150 million, I wouldn't be merching anything, much less J.Crew. J.Crew is for commoners with a little money.

Finally, if Grip was pregnant there would be a tidal wave of PR announcing it. A Huge push (no pun intended).

Crumpet said…
@Sally1975

More to this...

It is infuriating....
The no comment private matter response from BK. It does make the monarchy look weak, not stiff. And certainly in some cases a get out jail free card if needed.

Frog Cot could be just another irritatingly Hairy incident or maybe it has a money component a means of passing money to the Grifters for "rent".
Girl with a Hat said…
Ok, let's not make this into a federal case please.
As I write this, in the box at the end of the blog, @Sally175's post of 12.26pm is immediately above it.

It is quite likely that other posts will be made as I type, but I am unaware of this and it may appear that I have ignored someone's post about which I know nothing. The only way to prevent this `crossing in the post' would be to draft what I want to say in Word, then do Copy or Cut, then to refresh the blog page to see if anyone has stolen a march on me, then if they have I ditch my comment, or then do Paste only if it doesn't look as if I've ignored someone.


Change of subject:

Two slogans from the mug & t-shirt company Red Molotov.com:

`Every Disaster Movie Starts With Someone Ignoring A Scientist'

`The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it'


I do believe these statements, regardless of what I think of some of their others!


Now I shall click on `Publish'and see if any other posts have come in between that of Sally1975 and this one.
Mimi said…
the Harry and. Markle cookie tin that Walkers Company sells did not sell at $16. 99 like the other tins so they sold them to some company who is selling them for $3.99. wonder if any have sold at THAT price!
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Hikari said…
On my MSN feed, two stories literally in a row...

Meg gave William a gag gift in 2017 and He LOVED It.

2017 was the Christmas she attended as Harry’s fiancé and was invited to Anmer Hall. It was the first and only time Meg participated in the gag gift exchange, which is done by everyone and not some brilliant idea she had on her own.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/meghan-markle-s-first-ever-christmas-gift-for-prince-william-was-hilarious-and-he-loved-it/ar-BB1c9qBV?li=BBnb2gh

That one’s from cosmopolitan but nearly identical one from Good Housekeeping is on the same page. I’m sure all her paid American outlets will follow suit with this reheated tripe from three years ago.

Where is this year’s Christmas card, Meg? Where is your son? What did you send the Cambridges this year?

She’s really scraping the barrel.
Mimi said…
The POO that the Harkles have on the RF is bad enough/big enough to destroy them if they don’t comply with being targets!!!!!!
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Mimi said…
Sally, so do you think the poo targets (RF) will put a stop to the poo attacks any time soon?
Hikari said…
@Sally,

It is a mystery, isn’t it? When it comes to tabloid gossip, or personal opinions on political issues, “never complain never explain” Furnishes the dignity and mystique of the monarchy. But the situation we have here is one of their own acting out in the most egregious ways. Beyond being classless, immature and embarrassing, it seems pretty certain that the Harkles are up to their necks in illegal activities. The fact that these activities have moved to American soil does not exonerate the couple Or the royal family for shady dealings and coverups involving millions of pounds of taxpayer monies.

There is a very real chance in my opinion that the BRF is complicit… Her majesty included, in covering up Meg’s lies about Archie and including an illegitimate or nonexistent altogether baby in the line of succession. They disappeared money and potentially nonexistent renovations at Frogmore And the wasteful extravagance on wardrobe pale in comparison. As representatives of the queen on several foreign tours, They gave Offense to their international hosts, but far from learning from their mistakes, or being chastised and grounded, they were given More opportunities to cause offense And they doubled down on their awful behavior. Clearly, the attitude was taken that this “young couple” was not important enough in the scheme of things to bother correcting or reigning in...Or, another explanation would be terror at being found out over something Meg has on them. If they’ve been promoting a nonexistent child as an heir to the crown And this were to become common knowledge, it would derail the monarchy. Maybe they continue to financially support the Harkles , Pay their debts, and stay silent about their behavior because Meg would turn on a dime and out herself as a fraudulent mother to ruin them if they stop. I can see it now: a weepy soft focus Meg, the one who’s been lauded in Woke media for the brave sharing of “Her miscarriage“ telling some sympathetic ear like Oprah that she was railroaded by the family into producing a baby at any cost and the incredible strain led her to Deception because she feared for her life. That would be the ultimate victim story, and she wouldn’t flinch at spinning it out. She’s leveraged the biracial card, and the poor orphaned foreigner card into a lifetime of Royal subsidy. Perhaps.

In season three of the Crown, We get a glimpse into the episode of Elizabeth’s reign which she calls Her biggest regret. In 1966, a coal tip in the Welsh village of Aberfan Collapsed, burying a primary school and killing over 100 people, almost all of whom with children. Despite please from her Prime Minister and members of her family, Elizabeth refused to visit the site repeatedly, until more than a week had passed. She finally went After all the children were buried, and later told her Prime Minister, Mr. Wilson, that her show of emotion was false Because she felt nothing. “I have known for some time that there is something wrong with me“, she tells him. This conversation is of course fictional, because I doubt that Elizabeth is perhaps prone to that much self-awareness. She repeated the exact same pattern after Diana’s death, and she is doing it again in her lack of response to a very real public frustration Over the misappropriated taxpayer money and dodgy dealings with the charitable foundations that surround the Harkles. Charles is derided for being “too wet” In his display of feelings, but he has never shied away from admitting that he has them.
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abbyh said…

Gag gifts and the BRF:

I seem to remember that the first time Diana went for Christmas with the BRF, she loving chose gifts like cashmere sweaters level of things and was quite upset that they actually did gag gifts for each other. I remember the feeling of choice was something akin to humiliation?

I love the movie Harvey. As a kid, we had a large white cat named Pooka after Harvey.


I have mentioned things, no one responded, someone brings it up and poof suddenly discussion. Eh, I think of it as sometimes ideas have to marinate in a few minds before it starts to take form. I take some personal satisfaction that I did mention it first but I am more into a good discussion going with the diverse and interesting backgrounds people bring to the table. It's not like I own any part/idea of what is discussed here. If I want retain ownership or something, posting on a blog that is not mine will not ever offer me any control.
Crumpet said…
@mimi and @hikari

Gag gifts. I would not put it past Madam to send
discounted Walkers biscuits to W and C.
Mimi said…
Crumpet, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂! I. wonder if any of those tins sold. How humiliating! I love it!!!!!!!!!
Hikari said…
Dig it, y’all. Here is the inspiration for the Harkles Beverly Hills papp stroll...Why, lookie here...Who was out in Beverly Hills just yesterday with their dog, but a pregnant Katherine McPhee and Harry’s second daddy David Foster. This couple is dressed appropriately for the temperatures in lightweight yoga style clothing. No fur-lined park is in heavy black sweaters to be seen. But Meg couldn’t even wait 24 hours to follow suit. Busy busy busy busy busy.

https://apple.news/AAZIU1urfS7utBVgpzY841Q
jessica said…
Hikari,

It appears Meghan does have something on the BRF, rather it be Archie or just too much information (Andrew, Diana etc). She is very manipulative and would pull every card she could to enrich herself.

At a certain point she’s destructing Harry, and herself and further she is bringing down the current monarchy.

We still need to think of Meghan and Harry in terms of being HRH BRF members because they in fact, are. That hasn’t changed. The queen is complicit in this embarrassing mess and there are questions as to
Why that must be answered.
AnT said…
@Crumpet,
Jimmy Stewart was the best. Love him in that, Rear Windiw, you name it. Ha, yes, Archie is invisible Harvey, of course! Perfect!

@Hikari,
To this day, I don’t know how Megs wasn’t carted off in a straitjacket after that polo appearance with the doll. I see that photo of the expressions on the faces of bystanders and, Still, to this day, wow. I would have loved to have been someone who saw a chance to free the BRF and, proper behavior be damned, I would have walked up with my phone on record and lifted a limp or stiff plastic arm while shouting, “Plastic Baby at the polo! Plastic Baby at the polo.“ I don’t think even the security minding the grasping bunt would have minded at that point,

I think the BRF are maybe not used to personally dealing with cheating lying double-crossing tradesmen, their staff and aides or Scotland Yard do it. I classify MM in this sort of hustling group. It is complicated because she was brought in by their mentally ill flesh and blood, Harry, who seems like he throws juvenile fits and makes enormous threats.

Do the BRF have dirty laundry? Sure, per a firmer foreign service staffer I know. But if I know it, many others do too, and the world still spins. There is dirt in their world, but nothing compared to Andrew’s smut, the hell the world has gone through the past year, or a dozen movies — so she waited too long.There is far more dirt on MM.

Yes, what will cause raised eyebrows is the silence on her fake baby. But she waited too long there too. Many people now see her as a twisted, unpleasant woman who has damaged the monarchy, spit on all Brits, and is a spendthrift obsessed with money who turned H into a mess. Thus the BRF look like the grandmotherly scam victims, of a cold psychotic hustler. MM will get tab headlines, but look like the vile piece of untrustworthy hookerdom that she is. She is a bad actress and obviously emotion-free sociopath. In three years, her whole is a desperate pile of lies and frantic scramble for cash. Even her backers cannot change what she is. But I don’t think the majority of people are ever going to like MM and H. Every day their hole is deeper, and it is noticed.

So I think the time is ripe for the BRF to do something strategic and final. If they are too fluttery to handle, maybe they need to bring in strong no-nonsense people to whisk this cat off the table. People who will laugh in her face and be impervious to her blandishments. Who won’t wring our hands or get our skirts hooked on the twigs of polite niceties. A cool smart all-knowing SWAT team, ready to pack the doll for evidence, tell the Queen and Charles to start writing a one minute speech to tell the U.K. there is no Archie, H is a hobby head, and M stole foundation funds and they aren’t Montecito millionaires and HM and C fudged it. A team to then arrange the H and M walk of shame through London, then gets the top signatures so that William takes over. The Queen and C are allowed to retire to the country in comfort as weak, soft, fluttery relatives past their skills, and the team handles those arrangements too.

This is what it takes now.

But who can do this for the BRF and the U.K.? Who is smart enough, versatile enough, caring enough, tough enough? Who is ready to laugh in the face of craziness, and tell a huffing prince to step off, all to save the monarchy?

This calls for.....the Nutties.
@Sally1975

a few thoughts:

#3 The BRF lack of involvement or denial if you will makes me think somewhere along the line they figured out Grip was cheating Charles (getting garments for free and then charging Charles), that she was probably enabling Harry's recreations, and the whole Archie mess. At that point what could they do? If they came out and said Archie is not of the body so not inline for the throne, etc., Harry may well have thrown a destructive fit of biblical proportions.

And Grip would cry "racism" which I think was the main fear. And still is.

#4. They had no choice but to allow the marriage. Harry isn't 16 and one can't really tell a 35 year old who he can and cannot marry in this day and age. And to say no?

Grip would cry "racism".

#5. The Queen lives in a bubble of "yes men". She was educated privately and has been incredibly sheltered her entire life. What she says, goes. No matter what. So yes emotionally stunted in some respects. Charles isn't much better. He went away to school but he's been holding his mother's purse for 70 years. These people live in a fairly make believe world compared to the average person. I'm sure Charles was hoping that this would finally settle Harry down and make him grow up. WHOOPS!


The never complain, never explain has worked up until now. If you complain, all your privileges will be held up for public ridicule. You give your enemies ammunition. Same with never explain. Any explanation implies some kind of guilt, gives validity to any hair brained story or lie told about them. Example off the top of my head: William and Rose rumour. To complain opens the door to further scrutiny--if not Rose then who were you seeing? Or "he protests to much, he must be guilty". As to never explain, it gives enemies an opening. Like in court, your barrister will instruct you to answer yes or no and not to expand on anything as it gives an opening for the opposing council to find cracks in your testimony to discredit you or find something else to hold against you. I hope that made sense.

I used to think it was to protect Andrew but it is quite possible that it is Harry who has something that should never come out--the rumour of being abusive to women. Or, it was rumoured, Charles may have flown on the Lolita express (not just Andrew). But I think something is deeply wrong concerning Harry that was successfully covered up until Grip. Now he is a loose cannon.

My final thought: Grip knows that the BRF has some shady (some?) financial dealings and that could well bring down the monarchy. She may very well know where the financial bodies are buried (beyond the Panama Papers).
@Hikari

So sorry. I'm guilty of typing before I read all the posts. I think you're spot on in some of your observations.

Agree about the Archie thing. I think The BRF assumed she was pregnant because she said she was. The family isn't as close as people think and the Queen does NOT know everything about everybody in the family, does not keep daily tabs.

I think by the time The BRF found out or figured out that Archie was by surrogate (or if at all), it was too late. The world thought Grip and Drip were pregnant, saw the bump, and how does one say "so sorry old chap, she lied to all of us but all is well, carry on".
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@Sally1976

I can't wait for the next letter-case court date! It seems to be just a summary judgement or no tough. I want to know if the texts, emails, whatever, etc were ever turned over to MOS or not. I also want to know what is in them!!!
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@Sally1976

I agree that MOS should get the requested information. I can't imagine that they would have to wait this long if they needed for the 11th. I don't know how summary judgements work or anything. I would guess both sides just say something like based on xyzzy in law, they broke it. and the other side says based on xyz in the law we are fine. And that gives the Justice the basis for the arguments each side would/will use and can make his determination for summary judgement ent or no based on that. Just guessing.


HEY ALL NUTTIES! New game!!!! Be creative!!!!

Give it your best shot.
Name the situation, the person and media used (text, email, phone call, personal visit with notes) by Grip.


Example:
Finding out she would be visiting the Pensioners' home
Jessica
Text
"You've got to get me a better bump, the dress won't fit"
@Hikari said:

I can see it now: a weepy soft focus Meg, the one who’s been lauded in Woke media for the brave sharing of “Her miscarriage“ telling some sympathetic ear like Oprah that she was railroaded by the family into producing a baby at any cost and the incredible strain led her to Deception because she feared for her life. That would be the ultimate victim story, and she wouldn’t flinch at spinning it out. She’s leveraged the biracial card, and the poor orphaned foreigner card into a lifetime of Royal subsidy.

Exactly! In fact, there doesn't matter if there genuinely is anything she can hold against the Crown (using the term in its real sense, not that bloody livestream fiction)

MM would make it up.
Aberfan happened in 1966. I'm trying to think what precedent, apart from the King & Queen's visit to the East End during the war, there might have been for a royal visit to somewhere hit by disaster. In the Blitz, there was a clearly-defined culprit about whom the Government and the people could agree on.

Of the disasters that occurred between the war & Aberfan, I can't think of any that attracted a royal visit, even those that hit indentifiable communities:

Lynton & Lynmouth flood 1952 -34 died, 2 communities hit

Storm surge & floods (1953) -307 died (shipwrecks & coastal floods - communities along East & SE coasts hit)

Harrow & Wealdstone rail crash (1952) - 112 commuters died, from places along the `LMS' line from Euston, including 2 from my village.

Lewisham rail crash (1957) - 90 people died.

I have no recollection of a royal visit to any of these sites/hospitals, nor have I found yet any reference to one. It was a different world then, still under the shadow of the 2nd War. These disasters were recognised as either natural or down to human error.

Royal acknowledgement came in the form of awards for bravery. For example, the radio operator on the ferry `Princess Victoria' who stayed at his post, signalling their position as she sank, was awarded a posthumous George Cross. That was in the 1953 storms. (My mother was very upset that her cousin who had done exactly the same on a liner that went down in 1922 received no award for gallantry, just a mention in the House of Commons)

Both Lord Snowdon (Princess Margaret's husband) and Prince Philip arrived in Aberfan the very next morning to meet the men digging out the bodies.

Now, I once went to a funeral about 20 miles from Aberfan - a religious service attended by everyone, followed by only the men going to the crematorium - the women of the family went back to the house and waited for them there. (English custom tends to be that only close family go on to the crem. No distinction between men & women). Similar, or even more strict, traditions exit in the very Calvinistic communities of the Scottish highlands and islands. I don't know to what extent those considerations applied in South Wales.

What is certain is that the primary focus had to be on search, any hope of rescue, and the recovery of the bodies and preparing them for burial. `The 10:30 am BBC news summary led with the story of the accident. The result was that thousands of volunteers travelled to Aberfan to help, although their efforts often hampered the work of the experienced miners or trained rescue teams’ (Wikipedia)

There was probably concern about not `intruding on private grief' - nowadays a reporter would quite likely to shove a mike into the face of a bereaved mother in deep shock and ask `And how do you feel about this, Mrs ap ..., ' Furthermore, an immediate visit from the Queen too soon to the bereaved could have been seen as `ghoulish', as well as an unnecessary hindrance to the work that had to be done.

Moreover, Aberfan was clearly down to failings in a nationalised industry - the National Coal Board. We had a Labour Government at the time - the party that had done the nationalising - so I'd suggest it had the makings of a political embarrassment that the RF needed to avoid...

It was a `damned if you do and damned if you don't' situation.
Duncan said…
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Magatha Mistie said…

I agree WildBoar

Jeff Edwards, aged eight at the time,
was the last survivor to be rescued.
He recently told BBC Radio Times
he was uncomfortable at Netflix callous
portrayal of the Queen.

Marjorie Collins, who lost her son,
remembered the Queen’s visit, ITV 2015.
“They were above the politics and the din,
and they proved to us that the world was
with us, and the world cared.”

Another mother is quoted:
“No-one judged the Queen for her delayed response.
We were still in shock. I remember the Queen
walking through the mud. It felt like she
was with us from the beginning.”

God Save the Queen
Maneki Neko said…
Thank you for the above, Magatha. It's easy to portray the Queen as cold and uncaring.
Hikari said…
@Wild Boar & Magatha,

I agree with the Queen's assessment that Her presence In the immediate aftermath of the Aberfan disaster and the search and recovery efforts we have hindered rather than helped. However, I think she certainly should have accompanied Philip to the funeral service, if, as depicted, they buried all of the children in a mass grave. The fact that Philip went alone highlighted her absence. Giving her Majesty the benefit of the doubt, I have considered that seeing as she still had young children at the time herself, Edward was only two, And Andrew would have been the same age as the youngest pupils at the school—Perhaps she couldn’t cope with the thought of potentially witnessing the bodies of dead children had she visited earlier.

The fact that she regrets her tardiness to this day seems to indicate that she realizes her response was lacking at the time. She is a powerful symbol to her people, and if that symbol can comfort them from a distance and they are satisfied, that is enough. The bereaved parents directed their ire not at HM but At the appropriate party, the National Coal Board.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sally

The Queen has spent her entire public life
curbing her emotions.
I don’t expect, nor want, to see her break down
in a flood of tears.
I expect her to show strength, stability, no matter
the circumstance. It’s part of her job description.
She has shown emotion/compassion,
when needed.
In private...we will never be privy to.
Would someone emotionally devoid possess
the wicked sense of humour she’s known for.




@Sally1975 - no I don't watch The Crown. I regard it as pure propaganda.

Miggy said…
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'drip feeding' content to the media is 'extraordinary' after they stepped back as senior royals for more privacy, Queen's former press secretary says.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9082101/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-drip-feeding-press-content-says-royal-expert.html
Hikari said…
Now for something completely fluffy…

From Hello!, a retrospective of all of Catherine’s Christmas outfits as Duchess of Cambridge.

https://apple.news/ACEAwqqMbQHCfrGxAtDO5RQ
Sylvia said…
Canada house
Meghan
to

Janice Charette, High Commissioner
'Of course we are so going to live in Canada permanently it will be our forever family home me
Archie dogs H..
Sylvia said…
*Personal visit by Drip Grip to Canada House London
January 8th 2020 pre mexit
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

Especially when she has no form of redress.
The cold, uncaring Queen,
beloved around the world.
Hikari - did you read what I wrote about my experience in 1971 of how, in South Wales, funerals can be seen as more `men's business', rather than women's?

In parts of Scotland, it can be even more pronounced in those communities which still strongly embrace Calvinism. There's a painting by Guthrie `A Highland Funeral' (1888). It's shocking to most of us now - the coffin is clearly that of a child - it just fits across the seats of 2 upright chairs. There in not a single woman in the painting. The ceremony's outside the church too,

see https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/sep/10/sunday-blues-growing-up-in-an-ultra-strict-church for an explanation.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:James_Guthrie_-_A_Highland_Funeral_1882.jpg

I have read reports within the last decade that women in some places, such on some islands of the Outer Hebrides, can still be prevented from attending funerals, even of their husbands and children.

Whether or not some people at Aberfan would have had this view, I don't know but somehow it was felt that the Duke's presence alone was more appropriate.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Hikari

If the Queen had attended the funerals
she would have ‘upstaged’ this tragic disaster.
Best left to the ‘villagers’
Acquitaine said…
@ Hikari: The Queen's current image of a beloved granny to the nation is the result of PR

In reality she's a cold fish. Always has been. She's also awkward though she's made an effort to appear otherwise in the 2 decades after Diana's death. In the past she hid these traits behind protocol.

The positive images past and present eg royals visiting the East End after WW2 bombing or victims of disasters was down to 3 characters; The Queen Mother, Philip and Diana. All 3 are products of the age they lived in and adhered to protocol as expected of their eras, hut beyond that it's often forgotten how empathetic and charismatic The Queen Mother was. She was also a master at PR. Better than Diana i'd say because she single handedly held the family together through the turbulence of the abdication AND WW2 through to her death.

Her PR ability and its effect were so formidable that even Hitler feared her and publicly said that she was the most dangerous woman in Europe. Very few people could hold a country like that.

Philip is better known for his harsh parenting of Charles - an extremely sensitive and emotional individual. And yet Philip's other children and numerous charities and people who've met him mention his kindness, patience and sensitivity.

It is also forgotten that Philip natured alot of Charles's artistic efforts even if he thought him wet. Philip was the only person in the family who was kind and understanding when Edward quit the marines and was subsequently roasted by the media and the public.

He mada a point of covering/ breaking the ice during joint engagements with The Queen because she's awkward and a cold fish as well as working the room for her in subtle ways.

Diana's contribution is better remembered because we lived through it and it was more publicly accessiblr to us.

Throughout all this the one constant is The cold fish Queen wuo has benefitted from the efforts of her mother, her husband and her daughter-in-law.

However, on the charge of for whether or not she fake cried in Aberfan, Wales.....you have to remember that royals are trained to withold their emotions in public. A lifetime of training is not easily overcome.

The Queen's current image of sweet, lovable granny really began once her mother died. Perhaps she had always wanted to show a softer image, but was not allowed to do so by her mother who ruled her and the family with an iron fist. After her death, The Queen relaxed many rules abd the consequences of that decision are writ large in the family's current troubles.

It's no accident that her children and grandchildren's scandals started roughly around the time of the Queen mother's death. Philip is often wrongly credited with holding the family together, but it is the Queen mother who did that. Without her, Andrew started misbehaving and really leaning into his unsavoury activites and connections, Charles publicly courted and married Camilla, Harry was not dealt with properly culminating in Meghan. I'd wager that even Kate would have been viewed with a disapproving eye if the Queenmother was still with us.

After the Queen mother's death, the Palace hired proper PR and took control of the royal rota. We've had positive PR and cover ups and misinformation ever since. Very few reporters dare to write anything outside the party line. Pre-2002, there were reporters on the royal beat, but they were free to write the truth. Articles pre-2002 are a mixed bag of positive and hegative reporting. Very little obseqious reporting. Exception being Andrew Morton was considered the Omid Scobie of that era.

Post-2002, PR has been used to paint a rosy picture of The Queen and the royals and that disappointmeht you feel is finally realising that you've been had. It's all a ptomekin set up since 2002 with very little management. It's a wonder it held until now.
Acquitaine said…
The Crown is fiction. It's about as truthful as Jurassic Park.

The events depicted may have a grain of truth, but it's a very stretched, remolded truth.

It should not be taken as a history lesson except perhaps as a starting point to do proper research into these events and the social history of the era rather than the 2020 interpretation of those events.
Magatha Mistie said…

Ah, “The Crown”
I enjoyed the first two seasons.
Three & four were atrocious.
Season four, Balmoral, come on does
anyone believe the RF would treat guests
that way, beyond parody.
Maggie Thatcher ‘stalking’ in heels
and a suit.
Princess Anne portrayed as a priggish bigot.
The only saving grace,
Josh O’Connor as Charles, I’m biased,
loved him in the Durrells.
Acquitaine said…
Harry and Jeghan pkayed the race card early and well. At the time no one knew much about Meghan. Given the presupposition that the royals are racist without any proof to prove or disprove it, the race card was something they could not dare rebut strongly. It was a losing situation as long as the race card remained potent.

The media also swiftly backed down when Harry threw down the race card. Until the race card was neutralised, any negative articles about Meghan were viewed through its lens. Indeed any articles that didn't praise her were viewed through its lens.

The fact that initial reporting on meghan was comparable to reporting on all royal girlfriends was set aside on the alter of race.

Kate and her family were mocked for working to better themselves, for daring to aspire to better lives than their origins and the coal mining ancestry was regurgitated in so many articles in a perjotative way that implied that Kate and Carole had walked out of a coal mine 5mins before the engagement.

So many articles were written about Kate's Middle class / working class genetics improving the aristocratic stock of the royals.

Who can forget the infamous 'doors to nanual' mockery of Carole's former profession? Can you imagine the fallout from anyone publicly daring to mock Doria? At all times she's portrayed as serene, gracious, charming etc. All attributes you could give to Carole too. Also, Carole with the demonstrated good working skills, successful life and family is the one who is mocked and derided.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Aquitaine, I don't think the Queen is a cold fish. I think she is naturally shy and not overly emotional. She is probably a very pragmatic woman who was raised by a raging narcissist, the Queen Mother.

The Queen Mother was a horrible person, jealous of any attention that anyone else had, and ruling her daughter with an iron fist. She also wedged herself in the relationship Charles had with his parents. She also invented a role for herself, demanding to receive the briefings and red boxes from the PM. She had to be kicked out of Buckingham Palace by turning off the heating.

It is normal for children of such a domineering parent to find it difficult to find their emotional footing after the parent's passing.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Aquataine

I don’t see the Queen as the beloved granny
of the nation. Insulting.





Acquitaine said…
@Girl with a Hat: i take your point and agree with everything you've said as far as The Queen Mother's personality, actions and relationship to The Queen, but i stand by my point that the Queen is a cold fish.

Cold people tend to be self-contained and reserved. It's often mistaken for shyness because they are not extroverts and do not extend themselves except for those close to them. It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't care for her family and friends, but it does make for a very difficult public persona.

In the Queen's case, protocol and royal training allowed her to get away with hiding her cold fish personality. She's not one to hug or joke with everyone in sight like Diana or The Queen mother or Philip. She's not necessarily interested in people though her job requires her to be. She was raised and trained to exhibit courteous, sympathetic notes without having the personality for them.

The Queen mother for all her faults had natural charm and was an extrovert. In many ways the Queen's natural personality is as opposite to her mother as Charles's overly emotional, sensitive one is to his mother.





Girl with a Hat said…
aren't Meghan and Harry in for a treat! California is considering passing a law called by the Wall Street Journal "A California Plan to Chase Away the Rich, Then Keep Stalking Them."

California's proposed wealth tax, Bill 2028, would apply for a decade to anyone who spends 60 days in the state in a single year.

Here are the details.

A 0.4% tax on residents with a worldwide net worth in excess of $30,000,000 ($15,000,000 for a married taxpayer filing separately).


The proposed tax would apply to residents, part-year residents, and temporary residents.

Temporary residents are defined as those who stay in the state more than 60 days during the calendar year. For part-year and temporary residents, the tax would apply proportionally based on the number of days they are in the state during the year.

10-year lookback provision : The portion of a taxpayer’s wealth subject to the wealth tax is multiplied by a fraction, the numerator of which shall be years in residence in California over the 10 preceding years with 10 years being the denominator.

Stocks, options, bonds, cash, farms, in short, everything is covered including unrealized gains.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha 1.56pm and Wild Boar

That's exactly it, Magatha. Wild Boar, thank you too for your sensible comments re the Queen.

I don't watch the Crown, it's largely fiction, especially the latest series, I believe.

Acquitaine said…
"Magatha Mistie said...

@Aquataine

I don’t see the Queen as the beloved granny
of the nation. Insulting."

Insulting to who? You may not personally agree, but that is the PR image pumped out.

How often have you read articles about The Queen in the past decade that do not include a reminder that she's a granny juxtaposed with her image of public service?

It's PR subliminal messaging at it's best.

Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha 1.56pm and Wild Boar

That's exactly it, Magatha. Wild Boar, thank you too for your sensible comments re the Queen.

I don't watch the Crown, it's largely fiction, especially the latest series, I believe.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Aquitaine, you mean that YOU interpret the Queen's shyness as being a cold fish, not that she really is.

And narcissists often are very charismatic but they wreak havoc at home and their children suffer the consequences for decades to come.
Acquitaine said…
" Girl with a Hat said...
aren't Meghan and Harry in for a treat! California is considering passing a law called by the Wall Street Journal "A California Plan to Chase Away the Rich, Then Keep Stalking Them."

California's proposed wealth tax, Bill 2028, would apply for a decade to anyone who spends 60 days in the state in a single year."

I thought this was already on it's way to signature by the Governor?

It's one of the reasons so many celebrities and wealthy people are selling up and fleeing California in recent months. The threshold for it is very low so that someone like James Van der Beek ( Dawson's Creek) who is comfortable rather than wealthy has left California.

Girl with a Hat said…
it's kind of interesting that the Queen Mother and Meghan Markle share an August 4th birthday.

Poor Elizabeth. She cannot escape them! I was looking into a book on geneaological trauma - how families keep repeating the same psychological dramas. I think this is an excellent example of how you repeat the same issue if you don't address it.
Girl with a Hat said…
Sky News is reporting that a Brexit deal is "done". No details yet. This will definitely chase Meghan and Harry off the front page if they decide to drop their Christmas card today.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Aquitaine

Insulting to me.
I don’t remember the Queen being
referred to as Granny?
Girl with a Hat said…
oops, reporter walks back claim that Brexit deal is done. but Ursula von der Leyen has called back MEPs for a session tomorrow
Miggy said…
Apologies if already posted but there's a new HARRYMARKLE

Archewell Inc Leaks A Launch Via Bloomberg.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Magatha Mistie,

to people who have only recently started following the BRF and have seen the Queen in her older years might think of her as a "Granny" in the way that people tend to infantilise older people.

But, more mature people who remember Her Majesty in her younger years remember the steadfast hand she has used to steer the UK through many decades. The second Elizabethan age will be one for the history books, that is certain.
Acquitaine said…
"Girl with a Hat said...
@Aquitaine, you mean that YOU interpret the Queen's shyness as being a cold fish, not that she really is."

Firstly, i'm not disagreeing with you about The Queen Mother's narc personality or the destructive behaviour or Narcs so i don't understand why you are coming at me with this point.

Secondly, shyness is an emotion. It's exhibited as shakiness, nervousness, sweatiness, inability to be at ease with people, inability to hold a room. Almost anyone exhibits a degree of shyness depending on the situation. Diana was palpably shy during her early years as a royal and had to train herself not to be. The Queen has been trained from age 10.

Cold fish is a personality trait where a person is reserved, doesn't show their emotions easily, doesn't invite others to become bosom buddies on first meeting and tend to be detached. They reserve their core for their family and friends.

Or to use a real world analogy, in a customer service situation, someone with a cold personality is the worst to hold that role. However, with rules and guidelines they do well. Their personality doesn't automatically make them bad people, but it does make them difficult to empathise.

I will say this about The Queen Mother and Charles. Being a narc, the Queen mother was always going to position herself as the most important figure in his life. She did it with her Father-In-Law, her husband, her children. Why not her heir-to-the-throne grandson?

Charles for his part is a needy, emotionally sensitive person who craves constant attention and to be the important person in someone else's life. The Queen mother and Camilla made the time and effort to give him what he craved regardless of their motives for doing so.




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