Did you catch Max Foster's excellent video segment about the Sussexes on CNN?
As @Royal Reporter Richard Palmer of the Daily Express wrote, "It's a break with much US television reporting on the subject."
It certainly was.
It used clips from the notorious Oprah interview beside basic fact-checking on Meghan's statements that she didn't know much about the Royal Family before her marriage, comparing them with quotes from her childhood friends about how she was fascinated by Princess Diana.
It paralleled Meg's complaint that she wasn't allowed to use her "voice" with video showing her speaking out about a number of issues during her time with the family..
It fact-checked her assertion that she married Prince Harry three days before their televised wedding, by showing the actual marriage certificate.
Did you see it?
Max Foster showed the actual 1917 letters patent from King George V to explain why Archie, a great-grandson of the monarch, was not automatically named a prince - something Meghan had attributed to racism.
Finally, he contradicted Meghan's assertion that she wasn't given much training assistance on arrival by showing several of the palace team members who had been involved with helping her, including the Queen's confidante and dresser, Angela Kelly.
The piece quoted a previous palace staffer as saying, "We bent over backwards for her."
Really, it was a great piece. Did you see it?
Because CNN took it down within 12 hours of its initial broadcast, at least in Europe.
EDIT: Miggy found a way to access the video, which is "unlisted" on the CNN YouTube site and unavailable via the CNN homepage. Here is is.
You can't handle the truth
It was probably no more than a coincidence that the video was removed within a few hours of the time US President Biden stumbled through his first live press conference.
Whatever you think of his politics, the poor man appeared to be overwhelmed and even frightened. He was given a "cheat sheet" of potential answers and even photos of the journalists he was supposed to call on.
And yet the reviews of his performance from establishment journalists such as CNN were rhapsodic.
"Americans who want a competent, coherent, focused President should feel reassured," wrote CNN analyst Frida Ghitis.
Both the delusional Biden reviews and the sudden disappearance of the Max Foster video suggest that someone at CNN doesn't think ordinary viewers can handle the truth - or even distinguish the truth from obvious falsehoods.
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I don’t need anyone to tell me to read books, nor do I use social media for news or information. I only have a FB account for my hobbies. I was not in anyway rude to you, but you sadly stooped to that level. :o(
My point with Megsy is that she affiliates herself with the left of politics which has adopted the Woke idealism within its policies etc.
Thanks
I've copied it and re-jigged it and was ready to paste... My fault for not checking earlier posts I normally do).
You said something very very VERY wrong, I corrected you. Anyone would have, you cannot possibly expect people to leave your statement standing like that, surely. You should not!
A Brit saying that Britain is socialist and then getting her knickers in a twist when rightfully, reasonably and justly corrected???
The world is mad. You should be glad I'm paying attention, I am very proud to live in London and see myself as a total Londoner, warts and all. And I would NEVER live in a socialist country, because my family escaped from one. I know what socialism is, while EVIDENTLY you do not.
But apparently online manners nowadays include letting preposterous, ludicrous and shocking lies sit, while pointing out the truth is offensive and 'stooping to a low level'.
No worries. Simply wanted to spare you the effort of posting it again. Cutting & pasting long articles can often be time consuming and problematic. :)
Let's make a deal: you read a book about politics and history, and I read a book about manners. Deal?
I remember, at my no1 wedding in the 1960s, the Register was on a table in front of the chancel step and, IIRC, us getting a certificate and being told it it was really for me, as I was the one who had to prove a change of name. I'm not sure how, at that time, the information reached the Registrar General.
Changes in the procedure have been proposed but I haven't found yet whether these were implemented by May 2019 or not, presumably not because the bridal party trooped into, presumably, the vestry.
https://www.iflg.uk.com/blog/no-more-signing-register-changes-wedding-procedure-within-anglican-church.
Marriage certificates have to be surrendered if divorce proceedings are begun; but certified copies can be obtained later from statutory authorities.
For a family matter, I need the date of a deceased relative's divorce. These can be accessed easily if one knows the date. Otherwise searches can be done, 10yrs-worth of records at a time for a fee, but I don't know where the records are held. Far better to ask the ex, assuming they can be found. Thanks to the internet, I tracked down the person I needed, for a family matter, within a couple of hours. Our solicitor took it from there - mission accomplished.
A Brit saying that Britain is socialist and then getting her knickers in a twist/ And I would NEVER live in a socialist country
I will try to avoid the brickbats that you will no doubt hurl at me for asking this question... but where exactly did @Raspberry Ruffle say that the UK was a socialist country?
Thank God for our Constitutional Monarchy and Parliamentary Democracy.
I'd add that even here, people who should know better have recently assumed that hiding under school desks took place here in the 1950s - I've yet to meet any of my contemporaries who had to do that that drill. We just assumed we'd fry.
see - Summer of Rockets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Rockets a very confusing series that made no sense at all.
I mat have said this before:
The British attitude was best summed up by our chemistry teacher - the local fire siren malfunctioned and the `air raid' warning sounded instead for a moment or two. She turned from the blackboard where she's been equations for us to copy and said,
`Come along, girls, we haven't got all day.'
To which we answered `That's what we're afraid of.'
After 4 minutes, there was an audible sigh of relief - but nobody had dived under a table.
A would be a great-grandson son of a previous monarch and nephew to a reigning king. He would, however, be neither grandson nor son of a monarch. How do George V terms apply then? Presumably, back then nobody expected a monarch to live as long as Elizabeth has. Victoria made it to 81, as did George III (if my arithmetic is correct).
Another thought, in 1996 the Stone of Scone was returned to Scotland, with the provision that it would be returned to London for any future Coronation. What's the betting on that now?
*munching popcorn as the Nutties attack each other*
I've just opened a bottle of wine, bit early but what the heck :)
I don't know why they expected a different outcome. It was inevitable.
Munch, munch, sip, sip!
Thank you for the piece by Camilla Tominey. Buckingham Palace need to do something soon to erase the Sussexes from the RF. A lifetime banishment would be my wish. Dare to dream . . .
My two cents from 'merica. :)
What is Fascism?
https://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
Great article by the author of 1984.
Interpret as you will...
The comments might be right.
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Blind Gossip had the following item on Thursday the 25th:
Teeth Over And Over
MARCH 25, 2021 BLIND GOSDIP
When a certain celebrity kept getting her teeth done over and over again, you may have wondered why.
Bad genes?
Bad eating habits?
Bad dental hygiene?
Just loves going to the dentist?
Yes, there are lots of possibilities.
The real reason she started having all these issues in the first place?
Bulimia.
“It eroded the enamel on her teeth and caused all these holes from the decay. She is constantly getting them refilled and then putting new veneers on. She can never go back to her natural teeth.”
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Meghan’s name is one of the most frequently guessed names in the comments section for this blind item, and it is not surprising to me.
The above Blind Gossip item pairs well with this comment below from earlier this week posted by AnT (thank you, AnT) from someone who posted on LSA:
Post on LSA, Unpop MM op thread 2, post #219790
“Hi guys, I’ve been reading your thread for a few weeks after my friend told me about it. I have never felt the nee pd to speak out about it publicly, but I worked on Suits in a service position. I will say meghan faked having a gluten intolerance and being vegan. I think she might actually have bulimia as I definitely saw disordered eating on set. But the bullying accusations seem absolutely in character. She was a terror to work with, and I suspect it’s gotten a lot worse now that she has more power.”
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I’ve always thought that Meghan is not a naturally slender person. Actresses are under tremendous pressure to be extra slim because the camera really does add at least 10 pounds to your appearance.
I know someone who saw her in person in London shaking hands with the crowd as she and Harry attended a daytime event shortly after she married Harry.
My friend was traveling with her sister, and they both got a good look at Meghan and Harry. They noticed two things about her. They say Meghan was extremely thin and that there is no way Meghan is 5 feet 7 inches (170 cm) tall as Meghan claimed on her acting CV sheet. They both estimate she is closer to 5 feet 4 inches (162.5 cm) or at the very most 5 feet 5 inches (165 cm) tall.
As most of us have likely experienced, by the time you hit your mid-30s, your metabolism is slowing and it’s easy to gain weight and harder to lose it, especially for women, and the problem is compounded if you are not particularly tall.
My guess has always been that Meghan stays slim via a combination of a very calorie-restricted diet, lots of cardio and weights in addition to her yoga and white powder. Yes, that kind of powder.
But people who eat extremely low-calorie diets often binge, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she is also bulimic or perhaps anorexic. Being bulimic also feeds her creepy obsession of mimicking Diana, who was also a reported bulimic.
@JocelynsBellinis & @D1 Yes, let’s sit back and watch from the sidelines. 😆🍷🍿
RR said "Surely you mean Communists countries. China, Russia (or as it once was the USSR under Communism ) and North Korea to name a few. Socialist is no where near as extreme left. We have a Labour Party in the U.K. which is Socialist (but addled with Woke ideology now)"
No, she did not say anywhere that Britain was a socialist country. I was wrong. Very very wrong. I humbly apologise to you, Raspberry, and I hope you accept my apology. Labour is indeed a far left party, with everything that comes with it: hatred, division, anti semitism and no understanding of basic economics. That's why Diane Abbott can't count, not even with a calculator.
I did not read properly, clearly and jumped to a conclusion. It happens on the internet, I usually get upset when it happens to others, but this time it happened to me. Ironic I know. The one who tells others to go read a book ,did not even read a 3 line paragraph properly!!! Shame on me. I'm embarrassed.
Aaaargh.....!
@JocelynsBellinis & @D1 Yes, let’s sit back and watch from the sidelines. 😆🍷🍿
More the merrier, cheers
Thanks for clearing that up. :)
my family is originally from the Soviet Union
Mine too - so understand exactly where you're coming from.
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1375731422258995201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1375731422258995201%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Piers Morgan is going to tell his truth !!!
Yes, in the MOS tomorrow. Should be a long and interesting read!
From all I have observed of Megsy I don't think she is bulimic. Might she vomit it up a few times a year. Do this on purpose? Maybe. But this is not bulimia where you are doing this every day of the year, to where it corrodes tooth enamel and can injure your throat-esophagus. You can get scar tissue there because the throat tissues are delicate.
For me--Megs just doesn't seem like the bulimic type. On the plus side for Megs, she does seem to go though periods (months) of being dedicated to yoga and Pilates. In Montecito she must have plenty of time for this.
I stand corrected, sorry for making the leap, thank you Maneki. Indeed, it was MP Lynch who instigated the open letter.
I do hope though it was an organic reaction from Lynch, and not one coaxed by any ally of Meghan's.
Lets hope we get some real nitty gritty details from him.
Getting fed up with all the watered down articles about her and Harry.
Time to spill all the tea.
Welcome to the Popcorn Club! :)
Here is Camilla Tominey's write up in the Telegraph this weekend.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/03/27/harry-meghan-truth-royal-reporter/
https://archive.vn/Hramo
Richard Palmer is tweeting his support:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/d27777580a3f124af1b2e9b1591e0001/a57513ee95308980-3f/s640x960/dfd803207493087c18fd6e028817c9c6aa19675e.png
Can the US become more left? Yes. Do people want it too? Half. That’s where Megs is coming from.
*munching popcorn as the Nutties attack each other*
@JHanoi
Can we go back to no politics unless it directly relates to the Dumbartons inserting themselves into that topic?
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This is why politics have no place in this blog unless as @JHanoi said it relates to the Dumbartons.
An article from the National Enquirer, an American tabloid that I do not follow but my impression is that they make things up (the more sensational the better), but on the odd occasion do publish some real tea as a breaking story.
Bipolar Disorder: I have personally known two people with a real case of BPD. Diana? Definitely no. Meghan? Very unlikely as the extremes are impossible to mask or pretend that what is happening is somewhat normal. (I think Stephen Fry was a case of coming from the acting world and associated with some oddball genuises, his behaviour did not look abnormal in his context.) Meghan did not have that many public engagements, so it is possible that she was able to hide her extreme episodes. It has also occured to me that, perhaps unconsciously, Harry had to take her away to hide something (they ran away from the bullying complaints, but was there something else?).
Borderline Personality Disorder: Nope for Diana and Meghan. My niece has BPD so I know the real tragedy of the disorder. Meltdowns are extreme, destructive (mostly to self) and impossible to hide. A person with full-on BPD finds it extremely difficult to keep a job or intimate relationships.
Narcissism: Yep, although we can quibble about the form or the degree.
Histrionic Personality Disorder: I don't know enough about this, but the name alone makes it seem appropriate!
No worries! I got the impression that Holly Lynch wrote the letter off her own bat to support the sisterhood. I don't think Megsy knew her (or any MP).
There is also something called the dark triad.
In psychology, the dark triad comprises the personality traits of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy. They are called "dark" because of their malevolent qualities.
'Narcissism, Machiavellianism, Psychopathy
Recent comparative research on the Dark Triad has attempted to analyze differences among these three malevolent personalities. To varying degrees, all act aggressively out of self-interest and lack empathy and remorse. They’re skilled at manipulation and exploit and deceive others, though their motivations and tactics vary. They violate social norms and moral values and lie, deceive, cheat, steal, and bully. It’s thought that genetic factors underlie their personality to some degree.'
Sounds like someone we know.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/toxic-relationships/201812/beware-the-malevolent-dark-triad
Princess Anne's children do not have these styles and titles, and they are the grandchildren of the Queen. Why is this? I know the Wessex children do have the HRH Prince/Princess but their parents have chosen to use lesser titles (lady and viscount) for them, and there as an official press release from BP about this (not taken away - just not used).
Just to let you know, although the link to the Telegraph article works for you as you must be a subscriber, it won't work for everybody. I read the article this morning in the magazine so it doesn't matter to me but most Nutties won't be able to access it :)
Meghan's contradictory performances; Judge delays apology; discreditabliity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLtNYc1fCUE
The dark triad makes more sense to me than BPD and BD.
Thanks for that great description of the dark triad. It does sound suspiciously like Meghan!
@Mom Mobile,
Welcome to the Popcorn Club! :)
Just opened another couple of bottles of wine, Hic!
Cheese doodles anyone :)
I couldn’t help drawing a parallel with the conflict between the RF and MM. A long-established institution, hitherto pre-eminent in its field, now under sustained attack from a force the likes of which they have never faced. Although he has ranged himself against his family I do not include Harry when I think of this force: he thinks about as strategically as a speak-your-weight machine. It is MM who represents it – she and her co-conspirators, both overt and covert. She might draw on some of the Diana narrative but she operates very much as a 21st century globalist progressive, an ideological force that is potentially an existential threat to monarchy. We can laugh at her missteps and lack of self-awareness here but make no mistake she has already inflicted a serious wound against the RF. They are already on the backfoot and were always destined to be the moment she waved the race card. Just the fact that William has had to deny it is an extraordinarily big deal. Even if the allegation is not grounded in fact there is always guilt by association and, of course, the optics. An all-white family and a bi-racial woman who did not ‘feel supported’. Always the optics.
The question for the RF is how do you defend yourself against an enemy like this? Because if we know anything we know this is not going to stop. Because what else does MM have? She cannot return to acting – at least, not at the kind of level she believes she should operate. If that were possible it would have happened by now. All the indications are that her name is mud in Hollywood. I think the way she has treated important people in the past has certainly counted against her, but there must too be a growing belief that she is, uhem…not entirely of sound mind. And this really has rendered her unemployable. She can only either go the influencer route or the political route. While the former would not necessarily represent a threat to the RF the latter probably would. She would have her ‘voice’ and her views and we can easily guess how that would play out.
Through long-term observation of her I think there are three primary aspects to MM. We have straightforward greed, of course. Just being wealthy and being able to flaunt that wealth. Then we have the narcissism: the need to be in the spotlight, to occupy the high moral ground and be envied - and occasionally feared. But the third motivating force is Machiavellianism. And it is this, her constant desire to outsmart other people, that is the danger for the RF. Because whereas for typical people a movie is a piece of entertainment, my guess is that for MM it is her life that is THE movie, the one in which she naturally has the leading part. And it is the accompanying tenuous grip on reality which enables the lies and deceit and general underhandedness we see from her. And it will not stop until the credits roll. By which time the invisible audience out there in homes and movie theaters everywhere will give a silent gasp of astonishment at what they just witnessed; the performance of a lifetime, one they were privileged to see. And if you were aiming for that kind of acclamation you’d probably need to bring down a near-thousand year old institution almost single-handedly, wouldn’t you?
This is what the RF are up against.
It’s absolutely fine, it happens all too easily and often, the Internet can be a curse at times! Thank you to you Miggy for asking Superfly for clarification, I must admit I was left scratching my head! Lol Hugs all round ladies! ;o)
@Superfly,
my family is originally from the Soviet Union
Mine too - so understand exactly where you're coming from. "
It's interesting how every single person I know that has experience with socialism, very vehemently objects to anything coming from the left, while those who do not, naively embrace it.
Long term, and very strong bulimia, can not be hidden. There is something called the bulimia jaw, and it's very evident with certain celebrities, once you see it, you will never unseen it and you'll know what to look for. Bethenny Frankel, Minnie Driver, Angelina Jolie and many others have it. Some men too.
I don't see bulimia jaw on Markel, but it is possible that she enjoys engaging in this once in a while. Most actresses have issues around food, it just goes with the territory.
Thank you for taking the effort to post the article, enjoyed it greatly. Just quoting here lines what stayed with me.
'Of course journalists should take responsibility for everything they report and be held to account for it – but Harry and Meghan do not have a monopoly on the truth simply because the close friend and neighbour who interviewed them in return for £7 million from CBS took what they said as gospel.
If she isn’t willing to probe the disparity between Meghan saying someone questioned the colour of Archie’s skin when she was pregnant, and Harry suggesting it happened before they were even married, then someone must. There’s a name for such scrutiny. It’s called journalism.'
Hear, hear!
Your post gave me a lightbulb moment ...
Scandinavian countries are socialist democracies. The GDR was not a democracy (sorry to disagree with you, but communist countries are not democracies).
Socialism is not so much a political system as a social one, so socialism is not the antithesis of democracy. Socialism is not communism (a political system that has central control and is associated with various degrees of control and censorship) but communist regimes do include socialism to a greater degree than a democracy such as the US would.
To me, group rights at the expense of individual rights is bad (the danger in socialism); individual rights at the expense of group rights is also bad (the danger in the wokerati of self). Places like the UK seemed to get the balance right but now the wokerati are running riot and acting out Soviet-style witch hunts. What happened?
“that the children of any Sovereign of these Realms and the children of the sons of any such Sovereign and the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales shall have and at all times hold and enjoy the style title or attribute of Royal Highness with their titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their respective Christian names or with their other titles of honour”.
So anne ,as a princess andfemales, kids dont qualify. I suppose HM, eventually PC or P W could update it like they did the primogenicy rulem so now first born regardless of sex, is first in line in rules of succession.
She was offered a title for her then husband Captain Mark Philips (who would have passed on his title to his son Peter) but Anne declined it. She didn’t want titled children (they probably would have been Viscount and Lady as they are so low down in the line of succession). ;o)
Mea culpa ... GDR is not Eastern Germany!
@Superfly
I give you the opportunity to take back that personally insulting post about me. That was an atrocious personal attack.
I meant `Would he be a Prince or not?' - assuming a) he exists b) is legitimate and c) ws born of the body. Let's be frank about it, the probability of him ticking all those boxes seems pretty remote
I realise the Line of Succession goes on and on, way beyond definitions of Royalty or Aristocracy. If enough people ceased to exist, there are still the proven descendants of Edward III ...
Very interesting contribution on your part. I hope you’ll comment more often here in the future. Thank you.
WOULD ARCHIE STILL BECOME A PRINCE IF CHARLES DIES BEFORE THE QUEEN? CHARLES WOULD NOT BE KING. HE'D BE AN EX-HEIR
Can I be clearer without having to define `predecease' or `dies'? I don't want to get into the `Dead Parrot' Sketch?
I had to laugh at this! It’s been one of those days! Lol
I remember stating on recent a post before this, that if Charles dies before The Queen, Archie will stay as just normal and plain ole Mr. Such a shame there no tabs at the side of the blog for Q&A as it would save a lot of time. ;o)
May UK Nutties correct me if I get this wrong but the HRH style passes to children of the monarch regardless of gender but it passes through the male line only for the grandchildren. Anne, Eugenie and Beatrice’s children’s titles would have to come through their fathers. If Bea has a baby, he or she might receive some form of Italian title since he is a Viscount himself...or is he a Count npow? That would not be a British one though since the baby couldn’t inherit his or her mother’s title.
In recognition of Anne’s service to the family the Queen offered to make an exception for her children and make them HRHs, but Anne and Mark decided not to accept. Peter, Zara and their children still get to be in the line of succession. In the unlikely event they would ever move close to the Crown, they would have to be created nobles with the HRH style such as was done for Philip prior to his wedding.
Megs and Machiavelli? I had to look up the exact meaning of Machiavellianism. You have a good point there. Megs enjoys matching wits with the Royal family. Going to battle with them. The way the RF go about their business that she saw first hand, really must have pissed her off. But then many others pissed her off too, so she ghosted them. Maybe she is just anti-social.
But Megs is not battling all by her lonesome. She has some good advisors egging her on. My guess is some of her American (Hollywood) advisors just plain don't like the BRF and the whole idea of royalty in Europe. They get a kick out of scheming with Megsy. I am American and have never been offended by the RF who are a symbol of the British (UK) peoples for me. I think it's kind of cute for the British, even though America rejected the whole idea of Royalty. George Washington refused to become King when he was urged to accept.
And here is another reason Megs left with Harry. Megs was paranoid that the British staff surrounding her had a pipeline back to The Queen/BRF and the native "tabloids". I mean, how free wheeling and proggy can you be when you think you are being spied upon? Megsy with her delusions of updating the BRF. Bragging about bringing the Monarchy into the 21st Century. What a laugh.
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gbi/docs/kingmyth.html
On the bright side here, I think the people (not to be confused with the press) of the Commonwealth has rallied around the monarchy, which hasn't looked this relevant and sympathetic in a long time. The Queen's strategy to say as little as possible was wise. Looking forward to Piers speaking "his truth" tomorrow!
@Superfly
I give you the opportunity to take back that personally insulting post about me. That was an atrocious personal attack.
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@Sandie
I realize that you spend a lot of time reading at LSA. I do too.
But do you read all the posts HERE before commenting?
Perhaps it is you who should be offering an apology for your rude and condescending comments about the US, your attempts to beat down other opinions with derision and your assumption that those other opinions are not researched is insulting.
The GDR was commonly referred to as `East Germany' (not eastern Germany). It the boundary between it and West Germany represented how far the Soviet Army had penetrated before the fall of the Third Reich. The rest of Germany ie `West Germany' fell under the administration of the other Allies.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Blockade
Berlin was divided into zones, mainly under the Soviets. `West Berlin' was an enclave - in 1948 an attempt inbehind the Wall from August 1961 until late 1989, when the inhabitants were allowed out without the risk of being shot. Germany was reunited in 1990.
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At last, answers to my first question! Thank you.
Now, what the Stone of Scone?
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The answer to why Anne's children weren't titled is that it doesn't happen automatically when a Royal female marries someone further down the social hierarchy ie `marries down'.
Margaret's son, 2nd Earl of Snowdon, only has a title because his father accepted the title of Earl of Snowdon in 1960.
Princess Alexandra's children, Marina & James took their father's surname, Ogilvy, as did Anne's.
Women have taken their husband's status from time immemorial, whether they marry `up' or `down' - that may change but it hasn't happened yet.
As you say, it's difficult at times to find things.
@Bocajuniper - thank you for your excellent post.
"I give you the opportunity to take back that personally insulting post about me. That was an atrocious personal attack."
LMAO - or what? I did not attack you personally, I pointed out that you had no clue what you were talking about, which isn't an attack, but a factually correct statement.
I take back nothing. Go threaten your cat or something. Or tell your cat about your amazing socialist ideas. Lol
"I realize that you spend a lot of time reading at LSA. I do too.
But do you read all the posts HERE before commenting?
Perhaps it is you who should be offering an apology for your rude and condescending comments about the US, your attempts to beat down other opinions with derision and your assumption that those other opinions are not researched is insulting."
Hear, hear.... Sandie thinks we're already in a socialist country where nobody is allowed to say anything but her, tee hee ;)
Wild Boar - not sure when this Berlin convo started, but I find it interesting that the wall came up virtually overnight, trapping East Germans inside, while keeping West Germans out. It was built at the speed of light and people were shocked. Things tend to creep up slowly, until they don't.
Also when people rant about walls and such, I always like to point out that there are 2 types of walls: those to keep intruders out, and those to keep your own people in. The former are for protection, the latter for control. Hence, a wall does not equal to another wall.
Re Machiavellianism: exactly what I said to @Sandie up thread about the dark triad.
I've recommended this before:
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the Left from Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning(Paperback)
Jonah Goldberg
It may be pre-Woke but it goes along ways towards explaining the mental gymnastics that we've been observing.
The comments about 'munching popcorn' coming from the peanut-gallery aren't helping either.
The Harkles are very political and it's virtually impossible to discuss them without getting into politics.
I'm still here because I fear their influence in US and UK politics.
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**@Superfly
Thanks for backing me up.
I'm dropping the political topic for now as it appears to be necessary to do so, but I hope to discuss the Sussexes' politics with you at another time.
Popcorn is not my thing, though I do admit to supplying the wine...
Politics shouldn't have been brought up here.
Should have been a separate post for Americans to discuss between themselves.
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I shall now enjoy another glass, coz I can :)
Good night from me.
I'm right with you on the Dark Triad theory.
I mentioned the DT here back in 2019 and at the time @Wild Boar was the only poster who acknowledged the theory as a possibility.
I think the degree of derangement has become a lot more clear since then.🤣
What drew me to the DT as a way of trying to understand MM is the Machiavellian angle. I've always thought that specific personality trait or method of manipulation to be interesting and have recognized it on occasion in various people throughout my adult life.
I had long thought that MM was Machiavellian and one day back in 2019 I googled the word together with the term "psychology" and discovered the Dark Triad explanation. I minored in Psychology as an undergraduate and although that was many years ago I don't recall the DT being discussed in any of my classes back then - including the "Abnormal Psych" course I took. I still have my old textbooks and plan on digging them up out of curiosity to see if the DT was indeed discussed back then and/or to find out if there was any other equivalent theory for such a thoroughly well-rounded psychopathy!
Re Machiavellianism, yes, you beat me to it :-) But although I didn't say as much I actually think what MM has is slightly more warped. It is possible to have a grudging admiration for someone who schemes and plots for their own advantage, even if it is compulsive as opposed to something which merely derives from circumstances. What I see in MM, however, is this constant need to 'best' people, irrespective of anything else. The revelation about the wedding is a good example. It's pulling the rug out from people's feet in an entirely gratuitous way. All those people who celebrated the marriage as a joyous occasion, she is sticking a pin in that memory, effectively saying 'Well, it wasn't such a big deal, because we were already married.' There's absolutely zero strategic justification for that. It's closer to a God Complex. In her mind, she's always one step ahead of everyone else and she has to let them know about it. Even people sympathetic to her!
@Rebecca and @Wild Boar Battle-maid - thank you.
Thanks. The funny thing is that I did mention the dark triad theory last week/10 days days ago and no one commented, or perhaps just one Nutty. There are so many posts and the threads veer at times that it happens.
Any psychiatrists here? (I know it would need face-to-face consultations for a proper diagnosis)
JennS...
Politics shouldn't have been brought up here.
Should have been a separate post for Americans to discuss between themselves.
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@D1
I don't want to argue with you. I enjoy your comments.😁
Just want to point out it was Nutty that brought up the political topic and it's the current topic of this thread.
Also, it was a poster from another country/continent - not an American that lit the fuse here today.
I suppose we all have our preferences for what we can tolerate. I too don't like to read through political battles and I abhor extremism. I also don't like to wade through long posts on covid as I come here partly to escape all that.
I would however love at some point an adult conversation about politics and the Harkles that doesn't devolve into arguing and insults.
Hope you enjoy your evening and your glass of wine.🍷😁🍷
@JennS and bocajuniper
Thanks. The funny thing is that I did mention the dark triad theory last week/10 days days ago and no one commented, or perhaps just one Nutty. There are so many posts and the threads veer at times that it happens.
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It's been mentioned here a few times since 2019. I've brought it up more than once and I think Hikari has written about it.
It's just that it's becoming so much more obvious that there are major issues at play.
@bocajuniper
It's closer to a God Complex.
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Oh yes! She is a megalomaniac!
I know this isn’t a political blog (thank God) and my specialty was ob/gyn and not neuro or gerontology but in answer to what the hell is up with Joe Biden is he’s sundowning. There is a symptom of dementia where the suffer appears clear-minded early in the day but as dusk and dark near, they become markedly symptomatic. Some of them don’t even remember a wife of 30+ years after 5:00 PM. I won’t post any links but you can Google Sundown Syndrome if you’re interested.
It crystalised for me last year during the cemetery debacle. Until then i kept jumping from one trait to another and something about the Cemetery stunt made me realise that it's all the traits together.
Susan Collins gave the Hunger Games a backstory, expanded it's universe stylised the original story, but it's still some 75% copy of Battle Requiem / Royale.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PgKTcsAkYHs
"@Acquitaine
Just to let you know, although the link to the Telegraph article works for you as you must be a subscriber, it won't work for everybody. I read the article this morning in the magazine so it doesn't matter to me but most Nutties won't be able to access it :)"
I posted the regular link as well as the archived link which i'll re-post here too. The archived link should be avaioable to everyone regardless of whether they are subscribed or not.
https://archive.vn/Hramo
@JennS and @Maneki, i'm on the dark triad train as far as Meghan's personality
@ Acquitaine: Since last fall I’ve been thinking Meghan was possibly a dark triad personality, but didn’t say she was anything beyond profoundly narcissistic. Woe be to anyone within her reach.
Thanks. My apologies, I can't remember reading about the dark triad here in 2019, but I think I was more of an occasional rather than regular lurker so may have missed it. I think it does make complete sense where MM is concerned.
@Acquitaine
Thanks. The archived link does work :)
@JennS: THANK YOU for posting the comment from the woman whose sister was bullied by Meghan in high school. I’ve been looking for this woman’s recollection of Meghan’s bullying for quite some time.
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**@HappyDays
No problem - I had saved it but it took me a while to re-find it.
Check out this video of MM's middle school graduation I've linked to below. I don't think I've seen this one before. Watching it reminded me of the bullying tale from her school days.
Some things I noticed -
-MM does not get as much applause as the other girls especially when compared to the girl who accepts her diploma right before.
-All the other girls accept the diploma from the teacher/principal handing them out and walk away. But MM takes hers and then hugs the woman. The woman looks startled and Markle's behavior appears to throw off the rhythm and timing of the ceremony. MM then apparently walked the wrong way??? The video is cut off there so it's hard to tell but something odd happened. The little incident reminded me of how it's been implied that Markle love-bombed her teachers.
-MM gives a speech (of course) and she goes on and on! IMO her speech was far too long for the occasion and I'm sure the audience was not too happy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6189971/Video-shows-Meghan-Markle-making-speech-middle-school-graduation.html#v-8213398836742475111
No need for apologies😁
Just wanted to let you know you were not alone in thinking this.
I find it difficult to keep up with everything discussed on the blog due to the number of comments and the format.
I think she lobbed her big bomb and now can only toss occasional water balloons at the Royal Family. She also needs to remember that her title at thus point is only a courtesy title due to her marriage to Harry with the understanding she would become a British citizen and live in the UK as a working royal.
She hasn’t applied for citizenship, she did not commit to a lifetime of service as a working royal, and she got out if the UK as fast as possible, making it clearly apparent to anybody with an IQ above 70 that she only married Harry for the title, which has brought her the status, power, fame, and wealth she could never hope to achieve on her own as an aging actress with mediocre talent whose career was rapidly approaching its expiration date. My guess is that there’s one of those “Use by” noticed like the ones on a carton of milk that’s stamped somewhere on her body.
At any rate, she needs to be careful. The Queen is already very old and Charles is no spring chicken, and if Charles becomes king, he might be happy to just be the official face of the monarchy while William actually runs The Firm.
At this point, if she stays married to Harry, Meghan needs to worry about William. He’s not going to f**k around with her and Harry, especially after Charles is gone.
Meghan’s best outcome would be if Harry had an early demise due to drinking or drugs or both. She could spend the rest of her life with her title safely in her grip while portraying herself as a grieving widow with two young children. She’d be the untouchable professional widow.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9409927/PIERS-MORGAN-REAL-truth-Writing-time-dramatic-exit-GMB.html
It looks long, so probably best to go to the page itself.
Also, regarding the Telegraph article, "xxxxxxx" copied and pasted it in full on this thread. Yet another reason to come here, for the hot off the griddle news and for the receipts from long ago that bear trotting out. Thanks again JennS for that!
I had to google Dark triad! Fascinating and quite plausible explanation of MM's personality disorder. She thought she would step into the role of her career, the Duchess of Sussex, as the lead and eclipse Catherine, who as we saw in The Interview, was the true target of her raging jealousy and abuse. Meghan was born to play Lady Macbeth. She's already hollowed out her husband and wouldn't need to study for the part.
Glad you like sipping the tea!☕
That’s my contribution lol.
@Superfly, I’m jealous that you live in London. In the before times, my husband and I traveled there frequently. It’s our most favorite city on earth.
I’ve got a nice glass of wine here too.
PH is so disgusting. First he gas his interview on CBS, the network that aired the photos of his dieing mother, princess Di. Which is disgusting enough. Now he has hired the owner of a lurid fiction about the BRF huring someone to murder his mom?m wtf is wrong with him. He crazy
Well, god bless your psychiatrist friend for thinking Megs is just a normal friend or relative.
My brother’s best friend’s wife is a psychiatrist, and when I met her and had two dinners with her and her husband out west, she was young and becoming celebrated in her city. Fun, loved cooking, attractive, quite normal. Lovely home, told me about their plans for a family,
A few months later, her husband and my brother, coworkers in their industry, went to an important conference in DC for five days. When they got back, the psychiatrist’s husband found their house was empty, both cars were gone, and his wife was gone. Shocked, he rang her mobile and she told him she had moved in with a patient, a newly released convict. The prisoner had been her patient for a month and was her soulmate. They were starting a new life that was non-material and so she gave all their possessions, teacups to clothes to furniture, to a charity the soulmate knew, and she’d listed the house for sale too (though it had been his and she just moved in when they married). She and her soulmate would keep the cars, were living in a condo, and her new name was going to be True Feather, or Wish Feather - something like that.
The poor shocked husband stayed with my brother until he got through the shock and the quickie divorce. He gave her half the house etc to be done with it. When they met with the lawyers, she was suddenly dressed as a sort of boho hippie, platinum buzz cut, and referred to herself as “Arielle believes that....” My brother and his girlfriend ran into her and the 30-years-old ex prisoner soulmate at a shop maybe a year later. The psychiatrist earnestly held their arms and explained she had to leave her husband because her tarot reader had confirmed her husband was half alien (like, Mars) just as she had dreamt, and so she was afraid to have children with him and had to leave, and talking to the convict she realized she was something called a star seed but could choose a human partner now (the former convict)...
She is still a practicing psychiatrist.
In short, I”m sure your friend is nothing like this! But, I share it to suggest even psychiatrists can be...misguided, even wrong.
Some of my family were from Russia too, and a few fled to the UK, France and Poland during the fall of the Tsar. My grandmother’s cousin, in Poland as an architect, was then pulled into the Polish Army in WW2 as an officer, watched as his baby daughter and wife were shot at Katyn. He fell when all the officers were shot, but bullets missed him as did bayonets, so he lay unmoving in some trench with the dead for three days and then escaped in the night somehow and fled. When I knew him he was an architect again, older and extremely successful, never married again. He lectured us children, with my grandmother and his serving sister, about the importance of freedom and free speech. My grandmother’s sister remembered their parents hiding young writers and poets in some warming cupboard in their kitchen during the advent of communism. A German friend’s parents fled East Germany by swimming across a river as bullets rained down, forced to leave behind their furniture business, family and home all because they refused to publicly lie to endorse something terrible.
Read the Piers article. What did you think of it? I think it is great he had this opportunity to speak up, especially since there are now numerous lists printed of the proven falsehoods of the interview, proving his instincts were correct. I am not always a Piers fan, but this was ridiculous and Megs even complained to ITV to try to force him out. She and Harry think they are untouchable even when they lie, because they get away with everything.
Cheers! Need some popcorn?
Sure! Sending along a few bottles to The Popcorn Club...with thanks!
Just when you think these 2 have gone as low as it's possible to go, they hire a man to head up Archewell who owns the script rights to a disgusting hit piece accusing the RF of murdering Diana. Meghan is diabolic and Harry is the ultimate traitor to his family and his heritage.
Thank you for your clear explanation on the traits of the dark triad and Meghan. Other posters may have brought it up earlier but due to the nature of this forum setting, I must have missed them.
My only hope is that the RF are aware of her psychology and have brought in experts to guide them. I must admit it looks like they are still acting like headless chicken or rather head buried in the sand atm. The article in DM ytd about the Queen watching carefully if Harry would use his title to advance himself in US, it was a lol article. If they still couldn't see the obvious after so many instances of them monetising the titles, the monarchy deserve to see its end very, very soon. It is now just an archaic institution out of touch with the times and the public.
You bring up an excellent point. That psychiatrist is in an emotionally abusive rushed marriage with someone who disrespects her constantly. She chalks it up to an undiagnosed mental disorder such as autism. You’re right in that they don’t always have all the answers, especially in their own lives. I didn’t think about this until your post.
Maybe your psychiatrist friend had not followed the story closely enough to understand just how bad MM is. Perhaps she doesn't know enough about the RF?
I don't understand what's going on with the supposed end-of-the-year trial period. I think I must have missed something over the last few months in between different conclusions on the reality of the trial period.
At first folks here said there was no trial - that it was a narrative the press came up with. Then more recently it was being discussed again as if it was a definite thing.
Can you please fill me in on what your understanding is? Why do you think they will take the titles by the end of the month/end of the trial?
I'm hoping they take everything away but I thought they would wait until after repairing their own image by combating her allegations. They are not doing this though and the accusations are becoming more deeply rooted with many people.
Are you around?
Have you ever heard any of the tea from the protection detail and ex-cops?🤣
Like other doctors or medical professionals, psychiatrists are merely human and not infallible. What happened to my brother's friend was extreme, but.... and your friend while well-intentioned may not be able to diagnose Markle, or be prone to finding excuses due to her own life circumstances. Years ago I was busy, not eating enough, running, and thin enough that my regular doctors encouraged me to try to put on a bit of weight, about ten lbs. Around the same time I broke a toe when an iron fell off an ironing board onto it, and my friend took me to the emergency clinic. There, an extremely rotund doctor who walked with an effort told me snippily that my toe broke because I needed to lose 50 lbs (I was 5'9" and and 115 lbs). My friend still talks about it. Sometimes doctors see through a prism.
LOL! I saw Hikari's elegant post and yours after my reply. Had to work stupid hours again yesterday and today and only began catching up a bit after my reply and then just...
Anyway....No, but in answer to Nutty's original post in this thread about media, and CNN, and Foster, which said in part, : "Really, it was a great piece. Did you see it? Because CNN took it down within 12 hours of its initial broadcast, at least in Europe."
....I would like to point out that CNN was ostensibly a Ted Turner creation.
Ted, who said this about the Turner Doomsday Video (a real thing, but here's wiki on it):
"Turner famously stated: "We won't be signing off until the world ends. We'll be on, and we will cover the end of the world, live, and that will be our last event... we'll play the National Anthem only one time, on the 1st of June, and when the end of the world comes, we'll play Nearer, My God, to Thee before we sign off." Reportedly, Turner plans to make good on that promise. He commissioned a video recording of a military marching band playing the hymn. Turner would sometimes play the tape for reporters noting the reason he made it. In 2015, the video was found in CNN's database and leaked. The video was tagged in the database as "[Hold for release] till end of world confirmed"."
AND. Along with advocating for clean water and improved stewardship of the land, Turner established the Turner Foundation to address ways to curb population growth.
AND n 2009 Turner met with other business moguls to include Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, George S and David Rockefeller to address issues ranging from the environment to healthcare. The group also addressed population growth with discussion of vaccines and immunization efforts being criticized due to the perception that decision making and public policy could be directed by a handful of elites. Although no formal statement was released, the event was covered by Paul Harris for The Guardian.
AND on CHARLIE ROSE, Turner also said in the interview that he advocated Americans having no more than two children. In 2010, he stated that China's one-child policy should be implemented.
Turner also became more critical of media consolidation around 2004. He expressed some regret that he took advantage of the relaxed rules that allowed greater concentration of media ownership, and raised concerns about the quality of information and debate in an environment where the news is controlled by only a few corporations and individuals
He is also chairman of the United Nations Foundation. Who knows why CNN decided to pull the video of valid Harkle critique.
See then no one has to worry about somehow any of them coming close to ruling through a calamity. If they don't remove the titles, then no one can claim victim from revenge from the recent whinefest. It would not make sense to have someone be part of the potential to rule the UK but not living there or understanding what the UK is, the culture or the history from the UK (ie not American) view. Nor would she be forced to use the Princess since the other titles have been yanked.
Then, after the bullying has been looked at and IF she has been found to have been a bully, then pulling her HRH for conduct unbecoming of an HRH Princess, failing to become a British citizen and so on would make sense and harder to claim it was a personal vendetta against her.
Meanwhile as PH happily hires the owner of the lurid Diana conspiracy film, because "mommy money" is all he can think of to survive, being the rotten pillock he is, at least we have Uncle Gary coming out in defense of his niece Catherine Middleton --
....and Catherine's new book of pandemic-era photos is due out.
I feel like the Harkles keep digging up Diana's grave looking for coins and jewels. It's repugnant.
Okay off to looks for Jenn's coppers and ex-security, Someone posted some kind of tea probably a year ago on some blog, and I can try to find it. Off the top of my head, I only recall the helicopter detail who quit after being sent flying around constantly for Miss Congeniality's snack demands.
And then, there was the time that a Windsor local, a woman, live-tweeted about how Windsor police picked up Megs wandering in her nightclothes around the land or town late at night, and they picked her up in their police vehicle and drove off with her in full view of a few passersby. That post set was on Yankee Wally, I think. It was amazing as the young woman was tweeting as it happened and said Megs seemed out of it and it was strange she was driven out and away from Windsor versus back in -- also there was a. later tweet saying rumor is she was trying to get from Frogmore to Windsor Castle to talk to the Queen (late in the night).
Is that what you meant?
I agree...they need to pull it all. No titles, no chance of succession, and double-down on the point that she didn't even try to become a citizen and has instead simply created a conspiracy of lies and treasonous behavior.
They would never handle this as icily as I would, but I would remove everything I could from them right now, and say reinstatement would depend on the results of the extensive two-year bullying probe. Let them sweat title-free for two years. Next, add to the press that a treason investigation is underway as well.
We are far beyond "golly, maybe they didn't mean to X, Y, Z." Remove them from succession forever at the very least, permanently, for the treachery against the monarchy.
Mr Goldsmith, 55, brother to Kate's mum Carole, told The Mail on Sunday : "I don’t believe for a moment that Kate made Meghan cry."
Speaking for the first time since the allegations aired on CBS on March 7, he said: "If anyone had a hissy fit, it must have been Meghan. Kate would have been trying to make the peace.
"I would fight for Kate’s honour until the day I die. She is the most spectacular person I’ve ever met."
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agree that no succession now (get that out of the way, everyone can sleep well at night short term) but I thought that if she lost the titles she could then switch over to Princess. Plus my bet was that they could claim that the family was being racist and they pulled the titles because she/they gave the interview so that now just proves how right they are about the racism charges because the family doesn't tolerate criticism.
Strategically though if they pull them after the review of the bullying charges if she were found "guilty", add in the not meeting the obligations of citizenship and anything else, then it deflects the claims of petty revenge. Or racism. The long game.
Re the tea from security and ex-cops...I already have it in my files!🤣
You don't have to search for it and no it's not any of the stories you guessed.
I was just wondering if what I have was already stale at this point and perhaps not worth my time to process and post it here. The copies I have are screenshots so I would have to transcribe the content. But if you have not heard of the stories despite your great knowledge of Sussex tea then they are indeed worthy of being brought out into the sunlight!🤣
I watched the Foster video and agree with everyone that it was well done. Read your post on Ted Turner. Just HOW much power does Oprah hold in this world? And how many connections does she maintain?
In looking at the aftermath of the interview-from-hell I'm thinking much of what is happening is about protecting Oprah's reputation and her (and CBS's) profit from the interview. Starting with O's unwillingness to question any of the Sussexes' narrative...she didn't care if it was false or if it hurt the RF she just wanted the most sensational results for her show.
Then we have the initial lack of critical media coverage of the interview and Gayle King's aggressive pushing of the racism and the 'no help for suicide' angle on her morning show. Now we have the removal of a video that picks apart the falsehoods from the interview.
Could some of this be driven by Oprah's greed and thirst for power? Is she protecting the narrative her interview laid out?
Something we haven't talked about much here is how production for the interview blatantly used cut and paste headlines to falsify the intent of various UK articles on the Sussexes. Some of the articles were not even from the UK. I am so amazed by this and by the fact that the Daily Mail challenged them on this and CBS refused to budge. They would not admit to the US public that the articles they showed as examples of supposed press harassment were doctored.
Re the response from the palace...
I have been saying for weeks now that the RF needs to remove everything from the Sussexes but I think you are the only other person here that seems to agree with that.
I don't know how much longer I will be able to take this if the RF doesn't make a move!
They need to do something major...I like your idea of charges of treason! They should be formally brought by someone in the government and not by a palace "source"! That would certainly shut down much of the idiocy!
I take your point. The law of diminishing returns is real. But if the impact of the first bomb cannot be repeated it will not stop her weaving and embellishing the narrative. Whatever her status. The power of the race card only seems to be getting stronger, especially in the US. From this side of the Atlantic it is alarming what is happening to society there. I tread very carefully here, given the reluctance to get political on this forum, but if the means of execution are different the mentality at work is akin to that behind the Cultural Revolution. That is, it is not based on humanitarian instincts but is explicitly ideological.
I see MM wanting to drive a wedge between the developing Commonwealth nations - of Africa, in particular - and the RF. I noticed her being very friendly with Baroness Scotland at Westminster Abbey. The Baroness has attracted some unfavourable publicity for her spending habits in the past but I would think she is feeling very secure in her position. She has said she plans to go on and why wouldn’t she? Who would dare try to remove her now? Again, the optics.
If I were the RF I would go down the death-by-a-thousand cuts route. It would have to be handled ultra-sensitively, but there should be a drip drip drip of stories about MM’s mental state. There are signs that this may already be happening. It is one thing to present yourself as someone who has suffered poor mental health because of the actions of others. It is another thing altogether to have people realise that you yourself are a psychiatric case study. Once that penny drops investors and potential political partners alike will flee.
And then, there was the time that a Windsor local, a woman, live-tweeted about how Windsor police picked up Megs wandering in her nightclothes around the land or town late at night, and they picked her up in their police vehicle and drove off with her in full view of a few passersby.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but to my very English eyes, the procession of middle-school graduands looked like a Wee Willie Winkie festival or, worse, the Klan.
Sorry about that.
How many graduation ceremonies do American kids go through before they escape from compulsory education? Sadly, we are following the US in this - I've seen reports of 11 year olds in a Primary wearing mortar boards - oh, please! Is it part of the `Everyone must get a prize' philosophy that nurtures galloping narcissism?
To me, it cheapens university graduation and reminds me of a Proctorial notice I read once:
`Gentlemen in statu pulpillari are reminded that the wearing of the gown is a privilege jealously guarded by undergraduates since the earliest times...'
Well, it was published a mere dozen or so years after women were admitted as full members of the university. It did acknowledge the presence of women insofar as it stated that the only headwear acceptable with the gown was the square cap (ie mortar board) but women could wear scarves in inclement weather.
Many Americans think we and our ways are peculiar (we don't fasten our gowns across for instance - that's a Continental habit which suggests dressing gowns to me) but these things go both ways!
I trust you have been able to read this with a smile.
Whatever happens, or not, at this end, I bet that HuMbug has something nasty planned for that day.
There's just over 3 weeks to go until HM's 95th birthday.
Whatever happens, or not, at this end, I bet that HuMbug has something nasty planned for that day.
*****
I expect her to go into early labour while preparing organic waffles for Archies breakfast.
He being such a star, holding her hand, mopping her brow while singing her the lullaby she taught him earlier in the year.
@Superfly, I’m jealous that you live in London. In the before times, my husband and I traveled there frequently. It’s our most favorite city on earth.
It used to be mine too Lol ... it has changed for the worse.
@Ant and others - I will stop talking politics, since so many are asking, but I'd like to leave a final note on a certain subject: I find the personal family stories about experiences with leftist regimes very interesting and valuable. I have my own but won't bore anyone with them. Not only do our family stories keep their memories alive, but they should also provide real and factual information to those who have zero experience, and romanticise a system that is tyrannical, illiberal and oppressive, while ironically claiming to be the exact opposite of what it despises. It is actually not. It is the exact same, just re-packaged and re-branded. The 2 extremes are two sides of the same exact coin.
Now is Meghan machiavellian? Perhaps. But I actually think she's not that bright, to be this thought-out and cunning. The way I see it, she just jumps on every woke with-it bandwaggon that happens to pass her station, desperately hoping to stay relevant. She will throw anything and everything at the wall, hoping that something will stick. There does not seem to be a carefully conceited plan in anything she does.
When she was a nobody, it was yoga and avocado toasts, and all the other California-stuff. Now she's woke on steroids because that's where the money is - she believes. I find her terribly primitive and pathetic, with her 'I rescued chickens' and homemade olive oil breads, expecting showers of applause, for this nonsense. She believes to be the smartest person in any given room, when she's actually the second dumbest person in any given room. That's why she's so incredulous at ppl not buying her transparent low-shelf virtue signalling.
"I’d love to see Harry stripped of everything, including his citizenship."
I understand the sentiment, but even if the Queen were willing, i don't think Harry can be stripped of his citizenship. He's not a naturalized citizen of the UK (so he didn't obtain citizenship fraudulently), and at present, there isn't a case to be made he's a citizen anywhere else (so he would be rendered stateless, risking UN involvement. Meg would love that!)
He could be stripped of his citizenship if he’s seen as a traitor etc. There is a British girl who joined her then husband and went to Syria. Not going into details (too off topic etc) but she’s not allowed back.
I’m off to get busy...but I’ll leave these links below with details of the story above.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9302709/amp/Shamima-Begum-21-return-UK-fight-British-citizenship.html
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-53427197
What one may read on social media is what I call pub-talk. Unlike ones pronouncements in a public house the momentary anger or derisive comment does not fade away into thin air forgotten by everyone including the speaker - otherwise I would have to put my hands up and say 'guilty as charged'. One should thus not take comments on social media with too much seriousness.
I, in the days of one hundred and forty Twitter characters took myself off the site because I knew that I would be sure to push the envelope and perhaps cross over a boundary I would regret crossing. To be effective on Twitter one must not just be concise but pointed and in a funny way. Brevity truly is the soul of wit. I could not do it - not funny enough.
My Great Great Grandmother (I had eight of them) was born in Russia in 1828 albeit of English parents.
I forgot about her parents possible nationality and thus her duel nationality. Oh well, it was a hopeful pipe dream for a while. ;o/ Removing him from the line of succession would probably upset him and Megsy enough. :o)
https://thecrownsofbritain.com/blog-posts/
@ Maneki Neko and others,
I think the only thing they can't take away from Harry is Prince, everything else they can.
I'd like them lose everything.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14477279/thomas-markle-sue-meghans-pals-letter/
So would I
I just went on the crowns of Britain, and the 3rd gif.....what is that?!
Is that her stomach? What is that moving nipple thing?
Her belly-button, supposedly.
@Sandie,
While we weren't subjected to "hide under the desk" drills in my US school (except for some spring tornado drills), obviously that wouldn't have been effective for nuclear bombs. But there were real threats --the Cuban Missile Crisis, for example. Cuba is only 90 miles/140km from Florida, after all.
Castro's true initial ideology is a matter of debate. But the USSR agreeing to provide nuclear weapons to Cuba isn't.
As a teenager I did have a good friend whose family escaped from Cuba in a pretty small boat with little more than the clothes on their backs. The father had been a university professor before the Revolution. And as an adult, I've known and interacted with a number of people who were very glad to escape from Communist countries.
ROFL, I was teasing my brother about a year ago during a big tornado outbreak in his part of the country (USA) that he needed to put a student desk in his shelter to hide under because no shelter can possibly be complete without a desk! We lived all over the USA as children, so we knew that the desk was a blast shelter in a nuclear explosion (to protect us from falling block and brick when the building was destroyed by the blast). In addition, it was a tornado and hurricane shelter (protection from falling materials). In the west, it was an earthquake shelter (falling materials again). I'm a bit doubtful as to the efficacy of a desk as a volcano shelter (yeah, we practiced that, too). Brother has a storm shelter in the side of a rock hill, so he thought that he might possibly be able to safely forego the student desk.
Her security team arent medical or mental health experts, they cant diagnose someone (especially if the person is a recreational drug user) she has the right to walk around if she wants to, did they physically restrain her or something? all they can do is follow her and and perhaps encourage her to get in the car to go home. (or physically prevent her from breaking into see the Queen, was MM trying to break into HM bedchambers like the others have done?)
Whatever happens, or not, at this end, I bet that HuMbug has something nasty planned for that day.
What about she loses the baby but HM takes time out of the busy schedule and calls her. Optional: she is told of hereto unknown that HM miscarried once as well.
MM wandering in her nightclothes - maybe thats the mental health ‘suicidal’ night that MM mentioned in her interview?
Probably an invented plausible narrative to get in front of the aberrant drunken/drugged behavior that she knows is out there and was witnessed.
Now she instantly discredits people who report it by crying about her mental health issues while simultaneously derailing the drunken/drugged issues that are sure to be reported now. ("How DARE you question my behavior? I told you I was suicidal! LAWSUIT! LAWSUIT!")
/Sorry I had to self-delete above; I was simultaneously listening to Al Jazeera's commentary (the best I've seen thus far) re the Evergreen stuck in the Suez Canal and the implications for world trade and the Egyptian economy.
Or how the other great-grands are learning to ride so they too can ride with her. Already there are the mental images of the continuity of each generation learning to ride so they can ride with her (and be photographed over the years doing this). We now will be looking forward to seeing this.
The soft touch of the iron fist inside the ermine trimmed glove.
There's just over 3 weeks to go until HM's 95th birthday.
Whatever happens, or not, at this end, I bet that HuMbug has something nasty planned for that day.
I wouldn't take that bet (grin). Whatever it is, it will be met with giant eye rolls. While California 'celebrities' think of themselves as important spokespeople, we regard them as, well, idiots.
Reports I read said she was removed because she was in this state insisting on going to see the Queen at Windsor and it was @1 AM.
I was aware of the Begum case but there's no case to be made for the existence of a second citizenship for Harry. I never thought H would want to become a US citizen and as an American, I hoped he wouldn't. But that's another reason (from his perspective) he shouldn't!
ps-also had an MD tell me to lose weight even though I was an active, still competitive HS lacrosse coach, thin but muscled, and could run for miles. All she cared about was what # the scale said. Suffice it to say I did go home bawling(I had had an eating disorder in HS-one is in recovery for life) but never went back to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzhBMjU7iI
His view on the interview.
@Superfly
Her belly-button, supposedly.
Most bizarre belly button I have ever seen...
There was also that alleged tweet from the official royal or Cambridge accounts that alluded to the fact there was a surrogate shortly after it was reported MM was giving birth. I'm not sure if there are any receipts on that one? The tweet was discredited but I don't remember the details.
@JennS does any of this ring a bell? Do you know where we could find some receipts? Also, I will always share my popcorn and wine with you. I lost track of the back-and-forth in the comments yesterday and couldn't keep track of who disagreed/was arguing with who (whom?). When I said I was going to eat popcorn and drink wine it was not because of any comments you made.
Some reports suggest it was genuine:
https://www.sportsretriever.com/stories/meghans-belly-button-is-a-huge-clue-about-her-due-date/
but we know that such `umbilici' can be moulded into moon bumps...
@AnT, I'm glad PM was able to have his story published and push back against that lousy harpy. I don't agree with him all the time(a good thing, whoever one is reading/hearing) but sometimes he really hits the nail on the head. He is one of the few high profile people to push back against her and hold their line instead of fold. I hope it continues. Too many folding like a cheap suit these days as soon as one person starts throwing an irrational hissy.
ps-also had an MD tell me to lose weight even though I was an active, still competitive HS lacrosse coach, thin but muscled, and could run for miles. All she cared about was what # the scale said. Suffice it to say I did go home bawling(I had had an eating disorder in HS-one is in recovery for life) but never went back to her.
ROFL, I can so relate! When I was younger, people that did not know me questioned whether I was anorexic. Doctors doing my yearly checkup cautioned me about my weight gain (doing construction work such as wheelbarrowing concrete has a tendency to build muscle which weighs WAY more than fat). Now that I'm older and have my "I will kill you and enjoy doing it" stare down to perfection, it isn't even mentioned.
Were that the case, I'd have topped myself years ago.
Apparently achieving wealth through hard work and diligence is out; achieving wealth through handouts and pity me parties is in.
There’s next to zero chance Harry taking another citizenship, besides would American really want him! Lol 1776 happened for one very good reason. ;o)
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,
@SwampWoman,
My reaction was a little different. I looked at the short, slovenly ER doctor with her enormous XXL medical jacket straining half unbuttoned over her girth and her huffing as she tried to move around the small room, and said, “so, you believe at 5’9” and 24 years old, I should weigh 65 to 70 lbs. Can you write that down on a piece of paper for me and sign it?”
She gawped at me and mumbled and left the room. I waited a bit and she never returned so I went to the nurses’ desk. They paged her, she never responded, they had another doctor check me and then I left, I reported the incident to my regular physician who was a ranking doctor with this particular hospital group. He was shocked and angrily took notes and said she would be “talked to” and then repeated I needed to avoid losing more weight.
Never let the crazies win. She didn’t bother me, but she could have damaged some other patients with her bizarre remarks.
There’s next to zero chance Harry taking another citizenship, besides would American really want him! Lol 1776 happened for one very good reason. ;o)
I do not think that he would be eligible based upon his prior conduct in Vegas. It may have been hushed up, especially the allegations of underage girls, but the records would remain.
If the conduct in Vegas (and there may be more evidence from when he was on a military base in the US and was allegedly told to leave) aren't enough to disqualify him, he would have to pass a rather rigorous civics exam which means actual study and classes.
and now that the cute story is out about the Cambridge kids and their pony lessons,
will Meghan make Harry do some rodeo-style bronco riding while she announced the publication of her pregnancy journal, complete with drawings by Archie?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9411273/Prince-George-Princess-Charlotte-Prince-Louis-learn-ride-ponies.html
Just like Gan-Gan! Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis follow in the Queen's footsteps as they 'learn to ride their first ponies ahead of summer with their great-grandmother'
Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis have been riding ponies
Cambridge children have been perfecting their skills at their home in Norfolk
Queen, 94, was given a Shetland pony called Peggy for her fourth birthday
By LATOYA GAYLE FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 07:00 EDT, 28 March 2021
It appears the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's three children have taken inspiration from their great-grandmother the Queen after spending much of lockdown perfecting their riding skills on their first ponies.
Prince George, seven, Princess Charlotte, five, and Prince Louis, who is three next month, have been following in Her Majesty's footsteps and have become avid riders, according to The Times.
The trio, who have polished their abilities on their own ponies while spending time at Anmer Hall, their country home in Norfolk, will make great companions for the Queen, 94, who has been riding horses since she was just four-years-old.
They are expected to spend time with the monarch, who they affectionately call 'Gan Gan', at Windsor and Balmoral this summer, when lockdown eases. She is reportedly taking a close interest in her great-grandchildren’s progress in the saddle.
I don’t think for a minute Harry would be eligible for an American citizenship, I wasn’t meaning to imply that nor posing it as a possibility/question (let’s hope it isn’t possible! Lol) it was just a statement. ;o)
will Meghan make Harry do some rodeo-style bronco riding while she announced the publication of her pregnancy journal, complete with drawings by Archie?
I believe that she will announce giving birth while gathering eggs in the hen house with Archie acting as midwife and biting through the umbilical after tying it off with his shoestring. If not that, I want dibs on her claiming that it happened while she was riding a horse with Archie learning to ride his pony.
However baby Dianadorachel arrives, Harry will have disappointed her yet again by not being present during this latest suicide attempt and having been out during the 'birth'.
@SwampWoman,
I don’t think for a minute Harry would be eligible for an American citizenship, I wasn’t meaning to imply that nor posing it as a possibility/question (let’s hope it isn’t possible! Lol) it was just a statement. ;o)
Heh. I was agreeing with you (grin). He would have to pass a TEST. While he can pass urine without help, I'm not sure that he can pass a test.
BTW, there really is dolphin assisted birth and it is growing in popularity.
https://www.newsweek.com/dolphin-assisted-childbirth-bad-idea-369108
Phew! Lol I hate to think America would want that brainless muppet on a more permanent basis, bad enough just with his sofa surfing antics. ;o)
Okay, I am going to predict a clown-assisted birth, 🤡,
in Archie’s playhouse repurposed as a manger scene, 🏕
with Oprah, Gayle and Hillary Clinton also hovering nearby chanting feminist poetry 👑👑👑
while being broadcast live to the International Space Station astronauts who begged to be part of it, 🛰🚀🛸
thereby making little Queen King Diana Yrrah Harpo Mountbatten-Windsor 🍼
Into the first universe-baby and instant global citizen and owner of the galaxy per SS, 💫 🌎🌏🌍🌝💫👼🏻
impressing both Elon Musk and Jeff Jorgensen Bezos so much. 🧛♂️🧛♂️
that they both marry Megs at the same time 💃🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻
and then Megs reveals it was an easy space birth because the royals made her give birth without any medical help last time. 😱
(I am however hoping for your excellent dolphin birth scenario, because I think the dolphins would be intelligent enough to ferry Megs and doll #2 to the waters around San Quentin prison.)
"I have a question. I wonder why George, Charlotte, and Louis got titles. Maybe M&H thought that because an exception was made for W&K, that and exception would be made for them too."
No exception was made for George. The oldest son of the oldest son of the PoW was always a prince under the 100+ year old rules. But HM did decide if the first child was a girl, she'd be a princess because of the change from male primogeniture. Otherwise, if Charlotte had been born first, she'd have been "Lady" but in line for the throne before a younger brother who would be "prince." And she made the change for all of the children of the oldest child of the PoW probably for sibling harmony.
Harry and Meghan were very foolish if they thought the second son of the PoW is equal to the first son. But I guess Harry flunked English history :)
Part 1 of 4
The Dark Triad: Is Meghan Markle one?
MARCH 16, 2021 BY ROD FLEMING
https://rodfleming.com/dark-triad-meghan-markle/
Dark Triad is a personality type characterised by three traits: Machiavellianism, Narcissism and Psychopathy. The world has seen, in the antics of Meghan Markle, how they behave.
Individually, two of the traits in Dark Triad, Machiavellianism and Narcissism, can actually be positive, in appropriate measure. But when combined with the third, Psychopathy, they become dangerous.
Psychopathy
Psychopaths have no empathy for others, even though they may be good at giving the impression they do. They have no moral restraints at all. This is the classic baby kissing politician who cares not a jot about the babies, but about getting their parents’ votes and making himself appear human. But in the right circumstances, a psychopath can kill without compunction, even on the grand order.
No brake on behaviour
Most psychopaths, thankfully, are at the Nixon end of the scale. But it is important to realise that the brake on their behaviour is not those moral restraints that the rest of us feel, but simple fear of punishment. If for any reason that fear is diminished, they are capable of being monsters.
Life for a psychopath is a constant numbers game, as they weigh the benefits to themselves of any action, against the potential cost. The disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong, whose reputation was destroyed when it was shown that he used drugs to cheat, later said in interview ‘I would do it again.’ He showed no remorse for his actions, only irritation at having been caught. This is psychopathic mentality.
Narcissists
Narcissists always put themselves first; indeed, Dr Sam Vaknin, a leading authority on the condition, describes them as being in love with themselves. They adore themselves, put themselves on a pedestal, or perhaps an altar, for mere mortals to worship before. They are desperate to be liked and will go to extravagant lengths to gain popularity.
Altruism is not part of the deal, however. Every act of kindness has a price and woe betide he who sees through the superficial largesse. He’ll be denounced as a traitor, a betrayer, faithless, a cheat and so on.
Nearly all actors and most artists are narcissistic but again, alone or in combination with positive traits, this can be a good thing, or at least, a manageable one. Narcissists can be the life and soul of the party, because their need to be loved is so powerful; but they can also wreck it and will, if they feel under appreciated. It is when their moral compass is compromised that they are most dangerous — and nothing compromises morality quicker than a dose of Psychopathy.
Machiavellianism
Machiavellianism is named after Niccolo Machiavelli, a Renaissance writer. In fact his subject was Cesare Borgia, a ruthless despot — but Niccolo’s name stuck. Machiavellianism is the manipulation of others to one’s own purposes. It is sometimes described as believing that the end justifies the means and again, in combination with lighter traits and a positive moral compass, this can be useful. These people will move heaven and earth to see the job done, although they won’t care if toes get trodden on doing it or, for that matter, a few bodies get buried in the woods.
Often they believe themselves to be highly principled and acting for ‘the greater good’ (which they define and understand better than anyone else.) However, when their empathy or reasoning fails they too can become problematic.
The Classic Dark Triad
When all three combine in the individual, these traits form the classic Dark Triad. The presence of Psychopathy in the mix is especially toxic. Lady Macbeth, Julius and several other Caesars, notably Nero, Kurtz in Heart of Darkness and Humbert Humbert in Lolita, are all Dark Triads. They are typified by a complete lack of moral restraint, an obsession that their will — and theirs alone — must be done and that they are always right. They display a ruthless willingness to crush any opposition, insensitivity to any harm or hurt they may cause and a total failure to comprehend the nature of truth; for Dark Triads, truth is just whatever they say it is.
Unburdened by integrity or empathy and completely amoral, Dark Triads will make the lives of those around them hell. They manipulate the weak to do their will and anyone who tries to help the person so used will become an enemy, to be defamed and destroyed.
Dark Triads will have either a dysfunctional relationship with their families or they will dominate them completely. Those who dare to stand up to the Dark Triad will be attacked, but not usually physically. Triads may use the courts, public opinion and slander to silence or destroy them; or they may shower them with gifts and profuse apologies for any wrong they may have done. Of course, the Triad does not recognise such wrongs but considers the offended person too valuable to lose — just yet.
Triads who marry will soon engineer a rift with their new families. Little by little their spouses will be isolated and so lose the strength of familial support. They will become the Triad’s puppets, as intended all along.
Anyone who sees through the Triad’s lies and manipulation will be denounced. The Triad will literally try to erase them and such are their powers of persuasion, their eloquence and their acting ability that they will often succeed.
A Dark Triad will always play the victim, the long-suffering abused. They are always complete innocents, decent, if misunderstood people surrounded by the most evil individuals imaginable, against whom they need your help; and if you refuse to give it, you too will become one of the enemy. Triads pick their victims carefully and may invest a great deal in grooming them, but people are always disposable, to be unceremoniously jettisoned when their usefulness runs out.
Well, is she?
Looks very much like Markle is indeed a classic Dark Triad
Identifying a Dark Triad
In 2010, Dr Peter Jonason, then assistant professor of psychology at the University of Western Florida, and his co-author, Gregory Webster, assistant professor of psychology at the University of Florida, developed the “Dirty Dozen” rating scale, or a 12-item methodology, to measure Dark Triad traits.
Jonason and Webster’s measure asks people to rate themselves against these questions:
I tend to manipulate others to get my way.
I have used deceit or lied to get my way.
I have used flattery to get my way.
I tend to exploit others towards my own end.
I tend to lack remorse.
I tend to not be too concerned with morality or the morality of my actions.
I tend to be callous or insensitive.
I tend to be cynical.
I tend to want others to admire me.
I tend to want others to pay attention to me.
I tend to seek prestige or status.
I tend to expect special favours from others.
Do these seem consistent with Markle’s reported behaviour? I think on balance and from what is known, the answer must be resoundingly affirmative.
Sometimes I think she’s amazed she’s got away with it this long.
The Race Card: today’s Ace of Spades…really?
Markle has also played the race card to protect herself, in a double backstop strategy, though frankly, few Britons would consider her ‘black’; she looks like an Italian. But that trick was for the US American audience anyway, and it worked. She knew how powerful this tactic is there and that it would encourage many who know nothing about her to believe her and see her as the hapless victim who can do no wrong. As always; a Dark Triad inhabits victimhood and uses it ruthlessly.
If Markle is Dark Triad and it seems probable that she is, then Harry is in deep trouble. He lacks the will to resist her; just like Macbeth, he is putty in his wife’s hands. He was already weakened by the tragic and public death of his mother, Diana, and his father’s scandalous betrayal of her. Charles used her as a breeding cow while maintaining an affair with a married woman, Camilla Parker-Bowles (now the Duchess of Cornwall).
Both William and Harry have every right to be critical of their father’s behaviour but William has, in public at least, handled the trauma of parental infidelity and death well, while Harry is a basket case hanging together by threads. And those are exactly the targets that Dark Triads seek out.
Harry clearly suffers Childhood Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD). He’s none too bright either, so his emotional and intellectual toolkits are depleted, leaving him weak and easily manipulated. He loved military service, because he is an institutional character. Without the peer support and the discipline he had in the forces, he’s a rag doll, directionless and drifting. He has completely lost control of his life. We Scots have a word for such personalities: fushionless. They are perfect prey for a Dark Triad.
Harry would be wise to separate from his Triad as soon as he can and make peace with his own family. He would lose custody, of course; we already know how persuasive Markle is and no Triad would hesitate to put her children through the meat-grinder of court, especially when she could blame everything on the man who failed her and his racist family. This would be especially hard for him, because he is reliving his own shattered childhood through those of his children, using their love to repair himself. He feeds, like a wraith drained of love, on their positive energy. But that just gives Markle even more power over him.
Moving to the States, where she knows the courts would be sympathetic, hardly counts as a surprise: it was a classic Machiavellian gambit, lining her ducks up so that when she needs them — and it is when, not if — they will be in a row. Markle is preparing for the next stage of her life already, the one without Harry. She intends for it to be as she has planned it.
Harry’s own children will be used against him; he will be another evil man who betrayed the most perfect princess, whether he leaves or stays. Whatever he does now, he has broken the most important promise, the one he did not make but Markle assumed: to make her the glittering fairytale princess. That this failure is entirely of her own doing is not something that any Triad could ever accept; it must always be someone else’s fault.
There is a price for Harry’ folly and one way or another, he will have to pay. Typical Triads, after extracting all they can from their victim, will move on, either through divorce, in which their partner’s remaining reputation will be trashed, or through sequential affairs that they will make no effort to hide. Why would they? Their purpose is not sexual pleasure or romance, but the gaining of a new victim, new powers and the schadenfreude of embarrassing further the partner who failed them. Meanwhile, that partner, for whom the Triad once expressed such love, will be abandoned. Many sink into the pits of depression, alcoholism or substance abuse; others quietly hang themselves.
The smart move, for Harry, would be to take it on the chin and separate now, because things will only get worse. The trouble is, I don’t think he has the strength to do it.
"......Now is Meghan machiavellian? Perhaps. But I actually think she's not that bright, to be this thought-out and cunning. The way I see it, she just jumps on every woke with-it bandwaggon that happens to pass her station, desperately hoping to stay relevant..."
Machiavelli wasn't about cunning or well thought out plans. That's a frequent misconception of his writings.
He advised focusing on self-interest to a degree that one is prepared to manipulate, deceive, and exploit others to achieve your own goals.
To be as ruthless as possible and to seek to be feared rather than loved because fear achieves results.
The royal who inspired his most famous work, The Prince, was Cesare Borgia who is infamous for his cruelty, deceipt and callousness in his ruthless pursuit of his goals.
Machiavelli greatly admired Cesare and councilled future leaders to follow his example.
And yet for all his brutality, Cesare was eventually defeated easily and quickly because he didn't have the other necessary qualities required to maintain his goals eg creating network of allies to maintain his power.
LOL at the first baby of the universe! And the royals made her give birth without any medical help!!!
Is that why we never found out who delivered the baby or any details whatsoever of the first secret magical birth?
🚀👶🚀
Everyone remembers Lady Macbeth for the part she plays in convincing her husband to commit regicide, and no one remembers the consequences it has on her mental health and how she ends.
She becomes a nervous wreck held hostage by her husband's paranoia and in the end becomes unglued and offs herself.
Yes but in our version of the Sussexes' Shakespeare, it is Harry who is more likely to become unglued and harm himself...which is one of the reasons why Markle's claims of suicide ideation seem so ironic to me. I don't think a Dark Triad / megalomaniac type personality would ever commit suicide. They love themselves too much.🤣
Yes, Jenn, it was allegedly very upsetting, but the palace mean girls (Queen, Camilla, Catherine, Charlotte, Anne, Angela Kelley and Sophie) plotted It out over their weekly Skirts v. Hats football game on the grounds at Windsor. They decided not to let Megs have any medical care or see a obgyn or midwife! All Megs was able to do was go to spas, to NYC and to spiritual and scented candle shops and meet with French dressmakers, the staff of Vogue, and the ladies of SmartWorks and lunches with Amal Clooney, and occasionally have Jessica and Misha fly over for avocado sleepovers. So, distressed and alone, she was forced to go to Soho House, where allegedly she had to rely on the advice of kind gentlemen she knew there as to the state of a normal pregnancy month to month. It was awful, especially Harry found it too embarrassing to protest about it and he didn’t know how much to ask Pops for to hire a secret obgyn, and so he went to stay with Adele at her London house for the duration. They say Charlotte was the ringleader of course, having learnt tough ways in nursery school. Eugenie, Megs close friend, tried to argue with Charlotte but as Charlotte scares a lot of people, it came to nothing. Megs will be much happier having her baby in her Montecito birthing castle, with live support from 20 dedicated BetterUp counselors.
@SwampWoman, do you really think he could pass a urine test without help? I'm thinking he'd have to pay someone for their clean sample! And that's assuming they know anyone who could produce it! Reckon they could use Archie's....
No, I don't think he could pass a urine test; I just give him credit for being able to go pee pee in the potty all by himself.
Diana palled around with Hewitt in front of her sons. They even met his mother. Her multiple affairs probably did more damage than the distant Camilla. Making it all public couldn't have helped, but she did it, having endured her parents' nasty divorce.
I don't worship at the throne of St. Diana, either.
https://twitter.com/CamillaTominey/status/1376228770118561794
Can someone post? TIA
'If I were the RF I would go down the death-by-a-thousand cuts route. It would have to be handled ultra-sensitively, but there should be a drip drip drip of stories about MM’s mental state. There are signs that this may already be happening. It is one thing to present yourself as someone who has suffered poor mental health because of the actions of others. It is another thing altogether to have people realise that you yourself are a psychiatric case study. Once that penny drops investors and potential political partners alike will flee.'
Spot on. I've thought this for a while - She's made her bed with her admission to Oprah, as well as her tantrums, let her lie in it.
The only potential disadvantage would be if behind the scenes,criminal activity is being quietly investigated ( Blackmail or exortion for example). I'd hate to see her helped to a softer sentence due to diminished responsibility.......
The Dark Triad article you posted is fascinating. I’d heard of this, but never fully understood what it encompassed. How terrifying for those involved with a Dark Triad personality in some way.
Reading through it, I do think Megs ticks most boxes. I also agree with those who think Harry is more the Lady Macbeth in this scenario. We saw his military photos. We have been given Invictus Harry. But we have also seen his angry pouting face, and the fact he was aimless and easily led by a z-lister to flee his country instead of building a life. I think he is a weak man, not smart, a follower at heart.
Oh that was brilliant, Charlotte the ring leader - good break from the psychological maze and horror that is Meghan.
Compared to Zaras recent birth on the bathroom floor. PA ans her hubby Mike gave some details, and Zara and Mike arent even senior publicly funded BRF members.
Megsie, you missed a trick there, or are you saving it for later?
From Prince to campaigner and Silicon valley ‘tech bro’ what wider impact could the Duke of Sussex's new jobs have?
ByCamilla Tominey, ASSOCIATE EDITOR28 March 2021 • 6:00am
PART 1
Some say the Duke needs to find his own name and identity and this is the start
Jobs appear to be like buses for Prince Harry. Wait a lifetime for an opening and two come along at the same time.
The former Royal’s first foray into the corporate world has seen him take up the role of chief impact officer at Silicon Valley coaching firm BetterUp, while also sitting alongside Rupert Murdoch’s daughter-in-law on a commission aiming to fight “misinformation”.
Neither role appears to have required the 36-year-old former Army captain to submit a CV or go through the usual vetting processes as he adds mental health coach and anti-fake news campaigner to his résumé.
Yet in keeping with a new breed of “celebrity responsibility”, which has increasingly seen the rich and famous flex their corporate muscles for the greater good, the highly prominent positions look set to propel the cash-strapped Prince to ever more lucrative heights, as LA’s most sought-after recruit.
Just as when Jennifer Aniston became the ‘chief creative officer’ of a natural supplement range or when David Beckham backed a cannabinoid skincare company, these mutually beneficial ‘ethical’ tie-ups can be worth their weight in publicity gold. And not just for the company that gets their endorsement.
As showbiz agent Jonathan Shalit puts it: “Like corporate responsibility – this is celebrity responsibility. There’s been a shift in people’s mindsets. Two, three years ago the mindset was: ‘What’s in it for me, how can I get paid a shedload of dosh, how can I maximise my income?’ Now people desire to give back and give back support to the community.”
While pointing out that Harry is “above celebrity,” he adds: “Many celebrities are very responsible in trying to use the strength of their platform to help others.”
The announcement of both roles last week certainly played into the idea that this was more than just a money spinner for the Montecito-based ex pat – although there is no doubt all sides are set to benefit financially.
While BetterUp may be carrying out noble work in its offer of “personalised coaching, content and care designed to transform lives and careers” – it all comes at a price.
Having spoken about his struggles with grief following the death of his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales, Harry said of his appointment to the “unicorn” tech firm: “(I) want us to move away from the idea that you have to feel broken before reaching out for help,” insisting he intends to use the job to “create impact in people’s lives”.
The Duke added: “Being attuned with your mind, and having a support structure around you, are critical to finding your own version of peak performance. What I’ve learned in my own life is the power of transforming pain into purpose.”
He said his goal was to “lift up critical dialogues around mental health, build supportive and compassionate communities, and foster an environment for honest and vulnerable conversations” and he hoped to “help people develop their inner strength, resilience and confidence”.