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The Sussex saga: We were right about Meg's bullying. What else were we right about?

 Just a few weeks ago, the Sussex saga was a bit dull. Over the past week, of course, it's exploded.

First there was Harry's ridiculous bus-top interview with James Corden, in which he hopelessly flubbed his scripted lines and flopped his arms about like a man who is accustomed to not being taken seriously.

Of course, stopping at the exterior location home of a long-dead sitcom and then asking, on camera, to use the bathroom is an indication of a man who should not be taken seriously. 

It's a good thing the protocol-loving Queen Mother isn't around to see the Corden show. She might have asked for her inheritance back. 

Rushing through his dialogue

Then there was a quick clip from Oprah's upcoming interview with the Sussexes. Meg is shown sitting silent, plastic-faced, in an unflattering dress, looking somewhat like a showroom dummy of herself. 

Harry, meanwhile, is babbling on again like a man who is accustomed to not being listened to, as he again draws parallels between his wife with his mother. (John Lennon had a terrible habit of doing this as well; he mixed his mother's name with his wife's in the otherwise gorgeous love song Julia.)

"My biggest concern was history repeating itself," he says. "I'm really relieved and happy to be sitting here talking to you with my wife by my side because I can't begin to imagine what it must have been for her going through this process by herself all these years ago."

He's speaking prepared dialogue, but he's rushing through it like somebody is going to cut him off at any moment. Which probably tells us a little bit more than what we want to know about life at Sussex Manor.

Earrings from MbS

Then there was the revelation that the earrings Meg wore to a royal event in Fiji - along with that simple blue dress that was one of her few great fashion moments - were an unreported wedding gift from Saudi leader Mohammed bin Salman. 

MbS, as he's referred to in the diplomatic community, is a controversial figure who was involved in the death of propagandist-not-journalist Jamal Khashoggi just three weeks earlier.

Wearing the earrings would have been bad enough style given the timing, but apparently Meghan lied about their provenance as well, saying they were "borrowed." (At the time, I believe, a Hong Kong jeweler took credit for loaning them to her.)

Receiving the earrings was not, quite frankly, improper, since MbS is a member of another Royal family. 

But the timing of their public debut was awful, and the dishonesty about where they came from - was she lying just to the press? or also to the Royal staff assisting her? - was unsettling.

What else are we right about?

Of course, at this blog and at other non-sugar Meghan blogs, we've been saying for a long time that Meg is a liar.

We've also been saying for quite some time that she is a bully, information that is just beginning now to officially emerge from Kensington Palace, where an investigation is underway.

This raises the question: what else were we right about? 

Yachting? Trevor? Corey? The hockey player? The dogs? Joseph Gordon-Giuliano? Meg's drug use? Doria's prison record? Meg's lack of a university diploma? Meg's real birthdate? Markus Anderson? Nicole?

Archie?

Comments

jessica said…
Ugh sorry for all the comments. BlindGossip has the photo on their recent story today.
Her attorney(s) must be making money hand over fist. Good heavens. It's nothing but a group of people(her and her flying monkeys) in on a big grift working 24/7.
AnT said…
@JennS,
I thought you were U.K. as well, til you mentioned watching tomorrow night. Yes, my hours can be crazy and I might just catnap or hang here waiting for a file or a call, or simply because a month of wonky hours have my sleep cycle screwed up. Drives Mr AnT batty. Fun though that you understand the mixed background thing too! Mr Ant always liked to tease my mom about it: “you go to Ireland right now, you’ll find my whole family behind lace curtains in one spot, baking bread and fighting about something! But you’re telling me I’m going to need a gondola, lederhosen, a sleigh, a horse, vinecutters and Stalin boots to meet your family? I don’t know, Jenny! Your English royals are bad enough!” She would laugh and say, “So, you’re too weak for a simple journey like that? My mother and her sisters did it dresses and heels! Drink your tea! You just need more tea!”

If Hot Rob has the intelligence, fast wit and sense of humor we think he has, he would invite Megs on to his podcast, let her sound ridiculous and tease her for Archie info, and then never speak to her again... unless Harry is found repeatedly sleeping on a downtown Montecito sidewalk on Sunday mornings.

Megs may need acting gigs after this though. So I can see her trying to push for chances, but it sounds like real Hollywood has her number and even publicity friends who think twice before letting this sociopathic untalented she-Fox into the henhouse.
lucy said…
I was mistaken on producer credit for Harry, appears it was related to defunct AppleTv series

I also am unable to find link regarding Doria and the 9,000,000 I just read it yesterday too! It said it was wedding gift from Charles because Meghan whined her mom can no longer work and needs security (paraphrasing) due to her new found fame etc etc.

Could be completely made up but darn it I read it and bothers me I cannot find it. It was blog post. I can't be 0/2 I will give another look
AnT said…
@Puds,

Look at Hot Rob. Just gaze. Now, does he look like a goofy punchy Patrick J Adams to you? No, I think HotRob has Megs number. Or, JennS will drive to Montecito and straighten him out!
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Animal Lover said…
Another excerpt from the WSJ on a well respected write/producer director and his Netflix deal:

ViacomCBS commissioned “Yellowstone” co-creator Taylor Sheridan to produce three additional Western-theme series exclusively for its streaming service....

Mr. McCarthy of ViacomCBS calls the deal with Mr. Sheridan important to the future of its Paramount+ streaming service.

In total, ViacomCBS will pay Mr. Sheridan about $200 million to produce shows over multiple years,...

Taylor 'Sheridan is responsible for the successful and critically acclaimed movies Sicario, Wind River, Hell or High Water and TV series Yellowstone with Kevin Costner.

Notice this successful person with a PROVEN track record is getting paid about the same amount over a period of years what Netflix is supposedly paying the Sussexes who haven't produced ANYTHING.

My belief is the amounts floated for the Sussex deal with Netflix and Spotify are nowhere in that ballpark. I think a Nutty may have provided a link to a Forbes article that pretty much also dismissed the high dollars being mentioned in the press.

Besides being a bitchfest, Sunday's interview with Oprah will demonstrate the drawing power of the Sussexes. If it were me I would try to take a high road. MM already had The Tig she could revive that as a money maker. I can't think complaining abut a hard life in the Royal family is good for whatever brand they are not selling. She's not Diane, not even close and Diana's Panorama interview was a disaster for her.


Sorrow for any typos, I try to catch them but sometimes miss.
@AnT, re Harry found sleeping on a sidewalk on Sunday mornings: Sunday Morning Coming Down sung by Johnny Cash...
KCM1212 said…
So this is awkward.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_j35t3GCsk

A couple of guys got some Royal Experts (Dickie Arbiter, and Ingrid Seward I recognize) to comment on the interview two days before the broadcast.

Based on what they say for every interview, they are no doubt correct, but it "proves" the UK media has it in for the Sussexes, particularly MM.

This could have just as easily been done by those sympathetic to them, but it wasnt.

If this has been posted already, my apologies. In a bit of a rush today.




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AnT said…
1. Maybe Megs, legal beagle, promised to split licensing profits with Silver Tree, even if it is not Snarchie. “Well I am in the photo and I am the famous girl and so, mine!”

2. Megs is in the photo with her old teeth and nose #3 and poor ungroomed skin, and probably hates that. So, stop lights!

3. Megs wants the photo stopped because how will she explain the next very dissimilar child actor we see Sunday / Monday night? Or on the 2nd birthday?

KCM1212 said…
sorry..I meant to mention that Ingrid says MM "lied from start to finish".

Not a smart thing to say if you are trying to give tge impression of considered commentary.

All were paid and stated they hadnt seen a copy of the interview. So stupid!!
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘. Johnny Cash for the win! ๐Ÿคฃ
AnT said…
@Animal Lover,

The Tig seemed to be about the travels and drinks cabinet of a laughing sexpot starlet wilding around cheap European vacation spots with sketchy friends. And talking about her tv show, beloved daddy, and lots of food cooked by her then boyfriend. A friend looked at it now and then, and made me look at it all after the GF spooning bananas thing.

The Tig today would be about a housebound, complaining, oat milk drinking married bewigged frau with an invisible baby, a sour husband, and sketchy friends. Sandwich deliveries. And talking about zero creative work, no family, and more oats and wrinkled shmatta mu mu dresses. How much is that worth?

And yes —- who would believe these two, with no skills, would a Netflix deal comparable to that of the Yellowstone show runner?
Snarkyatherbest said…
AnT sour husband and sketchy friends. Now I would tune into that show for sure!!! It could make millions for them. But not they way she thrills ๐Ÿ˜‰
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@DesignDoctor

“They might not be getting any "appearance fees" but they have to be receiving some kind of financial gain from this interview.”

Maybe they are getting a “donation” to Archewell. They may not be getting a fee paid to them directly, but that would be a workaround that could be kept quiet. It would also give Oprah a fat tax write off.

I still lean towards the idea that they owe Oprah though.
AnT said…
@snarkyatherbest,

That is awful about that SunTimes gossip reporter — that was her job! But I suppose no one dared cross the queen of Chicago. I worked with two people who’d left her Harpo kingdom, and their tales were a mixture of respect, fear and loathing. Working there was fine for a few, they said, but miserable for many and people were simultaneously scared to stay, and scared to quit. Ugh.

I too wonder how taxes are handled for all this for Harry. They seem to have such a bizarre web of companies and foundations and deals, invisible kids, houses, rentals, gifts of lodging...taxable gifts, eh?....perhaps as a complicated wall to frustrate a tax team? We all have to go by the book and pay properly, but once again the Harkles are too special for our earthly rules.
AnT said…
@Snarkyatherbest,

๐Ÿคฃ it would probably be the only reality show format they are capable of! And they wouldn’t even realize people were howling.
Mom Mobile said…
@DesignDoctor “They might not be getting any "appearance fees" but they have to be receiving some kind of financial gain from this interview.”

100%!!!

Just wait. Soon after the interview they'll announce the latest Netfix project. *eyeroll*

Which explains that Silver Tree "friend" leaping to her defence.
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Mom Mobile said…
There should be a #MeanToo movement where mean girl celebs get outed and canceled. Rachel goes first! Then Ellen. Supposedly Jessica Mulroney got cancelled but I guess not now that she's defending MM. These mean girls protect their own.
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Mom Mobile said…
@JennS Thanks for the tea! Love it.

"...she seems to have tried to mend fences, once arriving at Kensington Palace at 11am with croissants for staff, declaring: “Breakfast!” Many of the staff had been working since 8am and had eaten breakfast hours earlier."

That is a total Narc move. Do something that on the surface appears nice but fails to consider the recipients. Like, maybe they eat breakfast a little earlier than 11 am? Then the narc complains when everyone seems ungrateful. They're not ungrateful, you just "gave" an inconsiderate "gift".
Miggy said…
Re: The Archie photos.

Hadn't seen this beach one before...

https://twitter.com/MoreHealing/status/1368188192424423425/photo/1

... and Samantha thinks they are all of Archie.
Sandie said…
@JennS

If the article in the London Times is the one I just read, it is very balanced.

One thing that struck me ... The Sussexes point the finger of blame at everyone and do not hesitate to lash out and harm. Meghan was and still is incapable of saying things like 'I find the protocol very difficult to understand', 'I am finding adjustment very difficult', 'This is not what I was expecting at all', 'I thought I could adjust but it is personally so difficult for me that it may well be impossible', and so on.
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jessica said…
That doesn’t look like Meghan- different hairline and jawline. Who knows who the random beach kid is. He has the same beady eyes as both of them. Which is their worst feature. So maybe, but it doesn’t seem to be Meghan.
JennS said…
@Miggy

OMG! Check out how old the beach boy looks!!!
He'll be ready for college soon.
Nelo said…
Interesting article.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/how-meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-lost-black-britain/
jessica said…
Ooooh, @MomMobile is probably onto something re: Silver Tree leaping to the defense, with pics, of Meghan due to a new Netflix project that Meghan is employing her for.

Meghan likes power, so this makes complete sense. Let’s keep a look out!
JennS said…
@Puds AnT jessica

Ha ha ha HotRob is mine, all mine!!!

I'm off to check the rest of the times and look for more tea......
jessica said…
JennS- he looks far older than my kid who is supposedly the same age. Archie, the giant. The photo looks younger than the color by number Christmas card.
Puds put up a great list of body language tips for those watching the Oprah special. One thing I'd like to add to the list is that you need to get a base reading of the person being questioned first, before you can start to interpret a person's body language. It's the same as asking base ("Is your name Sue Smith?, "Is your address__________?" etc.)questions on a lie detector test to get a reading on their normal state.

You can't do a body language observation without a base line first. That wettening of their lips could be merely that they have dry lips, but it could also be a sign of worry about a question. The base will tell you which one the interviewee does on a regular basis, and if it's out of their normal base, then you've got something to look more closely at.
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Ian's Girl said…
@JennS... Wow, that was excellent! And one that I think gives a fair look.

Nutmeg going into a situation with a large ego and zero research into the reality of Royal life. (Or, perhaps more accurately, thinking she was so fabulous that it would be obvious to all and sundry that centuries-old rules and protocol need not apply to her.)

The "wrong shade of red" blanket story resonates with me, but is also pretty typical of things that happen at higher levels of any large industry with difficult people. I've worked with perfectly lovely people who become strung out shrieking maniacs right before a big launch (of everything from satellites to fashion collections, museum displays, etc) if something is just slightly off. Not excusing anyone's bad behaviour, I guess I'm just surprised that a woman qualified to work with a fairly high up member of the Royal family could be laid low by that. Having a teapot hurled at your head is entirely different, of course, and things may have changed overall since I was working!

I also agree showing up with "breakfast" at 11 for people you have been firing off emails to and expecting timely replies from since 5 in the morning shows a complete lack of self awareness which seems to be very typical for Nutmeg. The ice cream stand and "best workday ever" comments always smelled like her pushing her own fabulosity, because I have never heard anyone British say " Best xyz ever" (I don't doubt the ice cream stand was real, but I suspect her staff was less than enthused and would have preferred going home a few hours early as a way of saying thank you)

She has ZERO people skills, and no idea how to work with a staff. The woman is just a horrible fit for Royal life, all the way around.

JHanoi said…
Sandie- that is so true . Some one without a chip on their shoulder and deliberately looking to cause trouble, drama, devisiveness within the family or even country, would not throw bombs and instead would make a gracious exit.
it is just another indicator that she and PH never had any intention of sticking around and were looking for maximum publicity for maximum financial gain across the pond
Mom Mobile said…
Sorry if this was already posted earlier. Great title. We should start referring to Harry as hostage.

https://pagesix.com/2021/03/06/prince-harry-nicknamed-the-hostage-ahead-of-royal-wedding/
Ian's Girl said…
@Miggy, Archie is absolutely adorable. (Always assuming he's real) All the boys shown look like the same child to me, but I am still perplexed by how big he looks in the Duck Rabbit picture/video compared to his size in the beach pic where he is clearly older, but looks much smaller.

But wow is he a handsome, darling boy and I could just eat him with a spoon!
Miggy said…
Reply from Richard Fitzwilliams re the video that I posted this morning of him, Dickie & Victoria Arbiter plus Ingrid Seward commenting on the Oprah Special.

If you get caught in a sting as I was, you obviously shouldn’t be. Dame Edna Everage (Barry Humphries) once said to Jeffrey Archer that “if you can’t laugh at yourself, you are missing the joke of the century”. Mea culpa.

When hit with a sting, it is upsetting. Now I realise why I was asked to put “in the interview” in every sentence. I must be honest. I didn’t suspect it. Nobody wants their honesty questioned & the interview is the great debating point. So again mea culpa.

The idea I thought was what news desks do all the time, so comment is available when news breaks, obituaries are ready. So the views I gave would have only been used in context just after the interview was screened on a ITV.


https://twitter.com/RFitzwilliams


SwampWoman said…

Blogger JennS said...
BeachBoy looks at least 4 yrs - about ready for kindergarten.

I suppose liars and scam artists could set up any number of false narratives by dropping misleading or fake data .... perhaps like footage of a mother reading to her child that was actually filmed many months earlier than stated?


OMG, my youngest grandson is 4, and I thought that that Archie version looked at least the age of my grandson!

What in the world is up with that red hair mess? Looks fake as Meghan.
LavenderLady said…
@Miggy,

If Samantha Markle say he's theirs, he's theirs IMO. She would know her family's looks. Maybe the child is big like her dad- when he was a child. Thanks for the link!

The latest LCC vid has new tea if anyone hasn't seen it. It's long but full of great content.
Miggy said…
@Ian's Girl,

I agree. He's a cutie. :)
Miggy said…
@LavenderLady,

I think it's Archie too. Can see the resemblance right from his earliest photos.


LavenderLady said…
@Ian's Girl said,
@Miggy, Archie is absolutely adorable. (Always assuming he's real) All the boys shown look like the same child to me, but I am still perplexed by how big he looks in the Duck Rabbit picture/video compared to his size in the beach pic where he is clearly older, but looks much smaller.

But wow is he a handsome, darling boy and I could just eat him with a spoon!

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I agree! What a cutie!

Regardless who his trashy parents are he's still an innocent child. Children are precious souls.
KCM1212 said…
@JennS

Thanks for posting the article! Fascinating and ptetty fair.

I have three comments

1. "Wheatle does not recognise descriptions of a diva or bully: “If you are a strong independent woman, some people don’t take to that kindly.”

The pair stayed in touch until Meghan moved to the UK in 2017, when she explained she would no longer be able to remain in contact."

um, why? Methinks Wheatle just lost her ability to be useful and got ghosted.

2. Why would Markle be throwing a SHOOTING party for Harrys pals? One, we have listened to endless stories of MM breaking Hs habit of killing things, and she didnt like his friends, and they didnt like her.

3. "she was accused of “flaunting” her baby bump and of patting her stomach excessively"
She wasnt "patting her stomach". It was a complete freakshow of shrink-wrapped clothing, coat-flicking, and two armed bump clutching. It was so out of place it embarrassed the Kardashians, much less the RF.

You have earned two oat milk lattes with the Hot Rob of your choice: Rob Lowe.....Rob Schneider.....or Rob Zombie. The choice is yours, Jenn! (wild spontaneous applause)

Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

'Note that the behaviour must be habitual to be defined as bullying.'
...........

Thank you for trying to give a definition of bullying. However, it's a little more subtle than that.

"It’s important to note that bullying is not instantly recognisable and may occur without anyone but the victim and perpetrator knowing. Likewise, it does not depend on face-to-face interaction and can occur via any method of communication. For this reason, employers need to be vigilant and take complaints of bullying extremely seriously." (Wirehouse Employment service).

The website bullyonline.org (NOT the one mentioned by another poster) was started by someone who was bullied at work for 4 years and lost his job, his house and his marriage. He knew what bullying was about and the website is extremely comprehensive and useful.

https://www.bullyonline.org/index.php/bullying
LavenderLady said…
@Miggy,

It's obvious to me too.
@Miggy,

That video puts those reporters in such a bad light, giving their opinions about the content of the broadcast before they've seen it. Fitzwilliams just made it worse by trying to say that it's the same as newsrooms having pre-written obits for famous people.

I've written some of those "pre-obits," and they are necessary for new outlets. When a famous person dies, newspapers report from the day that person was born until the day they die. That background info doesn't change, just the death cause, date and location, etc. So, all of the known facts about the person is already written and ready to go as soon as the person dies, and the reporter will fill in the pertinent new details, and maybe get some quotes from friends, family, colleagues.

This is in no way the same as reporting on, or giving your opinion on, the content of an interview that you haven't seen yet. The other term for that is "lying."
Sandie said…
https://mobile.twitter.com/MoreHealing/status/1368188192424423425

Could be Archie. The expression on his face looks like what we saw in the video.

That is not Meghan with him.
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LavenderLady said…
@Sandie said,
https://mobile.twitter.com/MoreHealing/status/1368188192424423425

Could be Archie. The expression on his face looks like what we saw in the video.

That is not Meghan with him.

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Maybe a nanny? It is iffy.

Wow. Samantha Markle says "apart from everything else I'm sure she's a good mom". Welp!
luxem said…
@Jenn - thanks for the Roya article. So many clues about her narcissist behavior when one knows what to look for!

For those who plan to watch the interview (sun or later), observe if M answers the question O asks. I noticed with the 2nd clip that O asked "How do you feel about the Palace hearing your truth" and she answered "they should have expected it". She answers with WHY she's talking (blame), not how she FEELS about talking - worried, nervous, scared, etc.

It will be interesting to see if M does that often and if O tries to steer her back on topic with follow-up questions.
DesignDoctor said…
@JennS

Thank you for posting the article. Great hot tea.

Whoever posted the beach photo link. Thank you!

I agree, the child in all the photos looks like the same child to me. What a cutie!

I also think in the beach photo he looks as old as my 3.5 year old grandson.

Nice of Samantha to verify the photos.


Animal Lover said…
This is from Variety:

Meghan Markle, Prince Harry Oprah Interview Sparks Mania in the U.K., as CBS Teases Latest Clip

By Naman Ramachandran


As the date of Oprah Winfrey’s interview with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry draws closer, the U.K. is revelling in a favorite pastime – Royal obsession.

Speaking after acquiring the two-hour interview for U.K. broadcaster ITV, where it airs March 8, Kevin Lygo, ITV managing director media and entertainment, said: “This interview is already a national talking point.”

Successive clips teased by CBS, where the interview airs March 7, have successfully whipped the country into a frenzied lather, led by the tabloids, with a 360 degree view of opinions being expressed about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“I will defend Meghan and Harry until I’m blue in the face, but I can’t help coming back to the fact that this ‘beleaguered’ pair are also a very well-connected, very wealthy couple, with an array of opportunities ahead of them,” wrote Natasha Mwansa in the Evening Standard on Friday. “Once the Oprah interview is out the door, perhaps they should give it a rest.”

Some of the speculation over at the Daily Mail is about the postponement of the interview since the Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Philip, the husband of the Queen, is currently in hospital for a heart ailment. “Even if Meghan had the choice to postpone the Oprah special she said she wouldn’t because it has absolutely nothing to do with Prince Philip and that this is just an excuse by the palace to keep her muzzled,” claimed the tabloid on Friday, quoting a “Hollywood insider with ties to the Sussexes.”
Animal Lover said…
Part 2

In the latest clip, released on Friday, Markle talks about how “liberating” it is to be able to grant Oprah the interview, after being denied the opportunity by royal aides in 2018.

It is an earlier clip that really caused a storm in Britain. “I don’t know how they could expect that after all of this time, we would still just be silent if there is an active role that the firm is playing in perpetuating falsehoods about us,” Markle says in the clip. “And if that comes with risk of losing things, I mean there’s a lot that’s been lost already.”

Royal commentator Richard Fitzwilliams, who was the editor of “International Who’s Who,” an 86-year-old publication that lists prominent people from around the world, from 1975-2001, analyzed the clip for Variety.

About Markle’s use of the phrase “the firm,” Fitzwilliams says that it is an innocuous phrase coined by the Duke of Edinburgh, which “has established slightly sinister connotations for some people using it, but it shouldn’t be.”

Referring to Markle’s comment about the “risk of losing things,” Fitzwilliams says that it could be a reference to the patronages the Sussexes lost while walking away from the Royal family, and also Prince Harry’s military links, which were dear to him.

“What more could they lose?” asks Fitzwilliams. “I was wondering whether it might refer to being asked to Royal family gatherings of some sort,” says Fitzwilliams. “Alternatively it could mean, a link to the line of succession. Harry is sixth in line, Archie’s [Harry and Markle’s son] seventh and the new baby will be eighth.”
KCM1212 said…
@Sorry for tge duplicate post, Miggy!

That little guy is really cute.
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

Habitual means it happens constantly or regularly, and has nothing to do with the means (face-to-face, via email or messaging or phone and so on) or if anyone else is present or not.

A one-off incident of bullying behaviour (such as your boss suddenly shouting at you that you are stupid) within a context of a respectful and amicable relationship may be shocking but can be addressed (acknowledgement, apology, explanation of context, reparations, restoration of amicable relations). When such behaviour occurs often and with different people, then the person can be classified as a bully.

I have been abused by a bully (and the abuse included, but was not limited to, physical assault). It was classic ... ticked all the boxes in terms of my powerlessness and vulnerability. The most terrifying thing was that there was no remorse, no apology, no sense of having done anything wrong, nothing to appeal to in that person to make it stop.

One incident from Meghan, or perhaps a couple of incidents confined to the week before her wedding would not have been bullying. But with her it was numerous incidents involving numerous people throughout her time as a working royal. She is a bully, and an abusive 'boss'.

Thanks for the link to that website. I am sure I am going to find it very interesting.
Animal Lover said…
Variety quotes Fitzwilliam as saying hundreds of millions will watch, I'm guessing this refers to a worldwide audience.
Opus said…
So what happens after tomorrow. Markle says the RF are horrible; that is hardly news. Even if she says something newsworthy such as that they murdered Lady Di, she has no evidence. The RF will either act or ignore her. My question then is this: after tomorrow are the Harkles a busted flush; they have given their interview (and Harry has been on a bus) which like tomorrows papers will be forgotten by Monday. They have nothing else to sell. Americans will be largely uninterested and the British will rally behind our Queen. Farewell and Vale (as we Spanish scholars say).

Am I missing something?
The problem with Sam and Thomas is that they constantly give Meghan outs.

Sam saying she's a good mother- how would she know? Sam also claims Meghan is a Narc, and Narcs make awful parents.

Thomas refusing to print the entire letter because it would make Meghan look awful?

They are unreliable. They never hold Meghan 100% accountable, which is exactly why she is the way she is.
Opus,

Perhaps Meghan goes in on Andrew and claims it wasn't safe for her children to be raised around a pedo. That would be shocking.
Hikari said…
Re. Silver Tree Archie

Sandie asked:

WOW, has Meghan actually authenticated a photo of Archie by copyrighting it?

Megsie has copyrighted ALL of the images that have been released of 'Archie' (portraits), including the image including TQ, PP, Doria and possibly, a Reborn. Also the paint-by-numbers Christmas card. Ownership of copyright means that she's got exclusive control over the images, not that the child they depict is necessarily 1. real or 2. hers.

This most recent little boy we have been shown is at least a year older than Archie is supposed to be right now. I put him at about three, slightly under or over. Master Archie is 21 months, allegedly. Still a toddler. This child looks like he's nursery school age/preschool (young end). He does display features that suggest both Meg and Harry. If this was the child we'd been seeing all along, I wouldn't dispute that this is Archie. Except Markle has shown us another child altogether less than a year ago. That robust young man with the blond duck fuzz hair is not this child, even allowing for growth.

This kid may have been shown to us as a very young infant before, but Rachel has played so many games, it's impossible to be sure. Also, this photo, like all her other releases shows evidence of digital tampering. 'Archie' has had violet painted on his head, presumably to make him more ginger. Since he's looking down, and we cannot see his face well, he could be anyone. Why not Silver Tree's little boy? That would make the most sense. If this is supposed to be from this most recent Christmas . . uh, hello, Corona! This little group is so blase, and they definitely do not constitute a family pod. Nor does Rachel look like this and hasn't for probably over a year.

Just more attention-seeking and deflection, in my opinion. What better way to diffuse the 'Odious Cruel Bully!' label than show pictures of her motherhood?
KCM1212 said…
Yankee Wallys blog has an interesting comment (s)

RoyallyStrategic claims there was an article that was pulled very quickly regarding the "she made Kate cry" stories. The dress didnt fit Charlotte and MM called Charlotte "fat".
And lived, apparently.

But that matches Camilla Tominey's comments.

Also, another story (also pulled quickly) was that the Cambridge kids played in the dirt " like pigs" and they wouldnt be meeting Archie because of their "dirt and germs"

I kind of remember that second one, at least that implication. Although I read it as her being a mother who was concerned about a baby and young children. More fool I, lol.
Anyone else remember that?

https://yankeewally.tumblr.com
Ian's Girl said…
I think it is Nutmeg in the beach photo. I didn't at first, because the upper lip area looks wrong, but if you look at the striped-dress photo, she really is pretty thin in her upper lip. She probably over lines and fills in when she does her makeup, very common thing to do.

But the chin is slightly off kilter, her edges are the same, and I think this pic explains her shape-shifting nose. I think she had the bridge narrowed, but kept the tip in its wider natural state. To me at least, it would explain why it looks slightly different depending in the angle.

Still not sure how Duck Rabbit Archie looked like he was darn near as long as her, where Beach Archie looks somewhat smaller and more dainty, despite looking older/more mature.

My brothers are all over 6 feet; my youngest brother was 6'10, and at every stage of his childhood looked WAYYYY older than he was, size wise. It was hard, as people often thought he was mentally disabled because he was so tall and yet acted and spoke like his true age. All this to say that as large as he was at every age, he never looked like he shrunk! I could absolutely understand Duck Rabbit Archie being big for his age, but do not understand then looking half his size 7 months later.

I am willing to believe it's all down to light and camera angles and positions, but it is odd to my eyes.
KCM1212 said…
Jenns

did you want a screenshot of the Tweet saying Megs used a surrogate for your archive?

https://youhavebeenmarkled.tumblr.com
SwampWoman said…
In the Oprah interview, I'm mostly interested in the opinions of people that were raised by or with somebody that was mentally ill and *extremely* volatile. Little people/helpless people became *extremely* aware of the signs of concealed rage and lying for self preservation. The brother and sisterhood of abuse know when something is off about somebody for as long they live.

If Meghan has the mental problems that I *think* she does, I can't see her *not* being abusive.
JennS said…
๐ŸŒŸBeachBoy is NOT Archie๐ŸŒŸ

LOL!
Apparently Samantha does NOT know what she's talking about!

She identified BeachBoy as Archie
but I have just found out he is a boy named Gavin Ginras.

There is a teeny tiny connection to Markle via an article about the boy's mother finding comfort reading MM's miscarriage story. I didn't read the whole thing but it includes the same photo of BeachBoy and his real momma.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/opinions/miscarriage-brave-women-pandemic-santa-gingras/index.html
How Santa and brave women, like Meghan Markle, are helping me process an unimaginable loss
Megs hosted a shooting party? Give me a break.
Miggy said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis said:

This is in no way the same as reporting on, or giving your opinion on, the content of an interview that you haven't seen yet. The other term for that is "lying

I don't disagree with you. If they've all lied, then it's a sorry state of affairs.
Waiting to see if the other 3 have anything to add.
KCM1212 said…
JennS!

You win the "golden sleuth" award!

There is a good picture of The Kracken on that same blog...move down a little
Miggy said…
@KCM1212,

No worries - posts get missed on here all the time. It's a fast moving thread! lol
JennS said…
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SwampWoman said…
Blogger Not Meghan Markle said...
Opus,

Perhaps Meghan goes in on Andrew and claims it wasn't safe for her children to be raised around a pedo. That would be shocking.



Seems like giant lawsuit territory to unnecessarily enter into to me.
@Jenn,

I questioned Sam's saying that this was Archie. First, she said she didn't know, then changed it to say that it is definitely Archie. how would she know? She's never seen Archie in person.
Snarkyatherbest said…
I’m thinking about it and I for sure we would have another brf dump tomorrow but with the queen er al doing commonwealth day I think they want that to be the focus. However I would be curious if there are some subtle clues on what they are thinking, doing, wearing. Is it too muc to ask the queen to have Kate wear the Vladimir emerald tiara tomorrow. ๐Ÿ˜‰.
Ian's Girl said…
JennS, that is insane! So much for my opinions!!! You are crazy good at this, wow.


AnT said…

Interesting beach baby picture. The older kid versions (beach and stripes) look somewhat similar.

But odd to me is that beach kid looks kind of confused and unhappy, and so why post that photo? Was that as good as it got that day?

Also and this sounds odd perhaps, but I have spent a couple of decades analyzing model/clothing images in detail as we choose which to use in creative and how much to shop them --- so look at the women's bare swimsuited shoulder and upper arm in the beach photo. Where the armpit area is. That is s much slimmer, thinner arm than Megs currently possesses (judging from Valentine's BW photo). Her face is sharper-angled than current Megs as well.

So, that makes me think: pre-pregnancy. But if pre-pregnancy, and that includes the miscarriage last year, then that takes us to late May/June last year too. Or around the time of Birthday Archie.

And so did Birthday Archie grow from a dumpling baby with straight hair, to this little more mature ad, in 4 or 5 weeks?

And why if this beach boy looks like stupid shirt boy, does the Megs with striped shirt boy have her old teeth, nose, rougher ungroomed complexion? Not just a "younger" looking Megs. A pre-surgery, pre- royal cosmetic money Megs.

I certainly may be wrong but this, to me, is someone else's child.

Ian's Girl said…
"Is it too muc to ask the queen to have Kate wear the Vladimir emerald tiara tomorrow. ๐Ÿ˜‰."

I snort-laughed at this Snarkyatherbest!


jessica said…
JennS -you are the BEST! Great find.
Ian's Girl said…
AnTm scroll up to JennS' post.... NOT Archie in the beach photo.
AnT said…
^^^^ !! Not "looks like stupid shirt boy: -- STRIPED shirt boy. I am so sick of inane autocorrect.
@SwampWoman, I am definitely one of those. My father was the volatile, turn on a dime abuser. I was his target. From a very young age I became practiced at observing people, their character, moods, tells, etc, because of self-preservation. If I could see it coming, then I could attempt to flee or protect myself. You also have to figure out who you to trust. Even now, in my 40s, I can still usually figure people out from one interaction. It surprises my friends sometimes. It may take time, but they'll eventually admit it and tell me I was right about so and so.

Early on I could see it with MM, that something was off and she shouldn't be trusted and wasn't a good addition to the RF, and told my friend/coworker from London about it, and she argued with me. She is a minority and was swept up by the race thing. So naive. But, it has played out, hasn't it?

Unfortunately, MM and her spoiled rotten narc self upsets me too much to watch the interview. I am struggling financially and am housing insecure, etc, so watching her complain about how tough her life has been would be a slap in the face I can't bear right now. Her whole life has been so easy, secure, and spoiled compared to mine. She's never been afraid or had to work for anything in her life. She had a warm dry home, private schools even though she probably wasn't very intelligent or academically motivated-all because her family had money to pay for it, university paid for, family hooked her up with a hard-to-get internship in Argentina, etc. She hasn't earned or deserved anything but all she does is complain about how awful and hard her life has been. I cannot tolerate her.
Miggy said…
@JenS,

She identified BeachBoy as Archie
but I have just found out he is a boy named Gavin Ginras.


Looking at both pics again, I can now see that 'Gavin' has bigger lips than Archie but the eyes are VERY similar. It's not surprising that many thought it was Archie as they do look alike.

Well done!
jessica said…
I’d assume the BRF is going to do another info dump on Monday to steal all Meghan’s wishful thinking press.
LavenderLady said…
@Not Meghan Markle said,
The problem with Sam and Thomas is that they constantly give Meghan outs.

Sam saying she's a good mother- how would she know? Sam also claims Meghan is a Narc, and Narcs make awful parents.

Thomas refusing to print the entire letter because it would make Meghan look awful?

They are unreliable. They never hold Meghan 100% accountable, which is exactly why she is the way she is.

*

Very well put. Samantha has lost some cred after her book failed to impress. So I get what you are saying. I see her as a family source on the Markle dysfunction and maybe some positives about them too on occasion, though I have felt for a long time, they are all drama queens.


@Opus said,
So what happens after tomorrow.

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I say they will cause a bunch of celebrities to get thier panties in a knot for awhile so it will appear the RF are getting cancelled. There will be a lot of buzz BUT, the RF will prevail by staying as calm and quiet as is possible, keeping their replies very measured in any form of official response they may put out. Their usual MO. The world knows the decorum and duty that family has lived by in these modern days. The world also knows what a remarkable, prudent, and accomplished women HM has been in her role for all of her decades on the throne. After all of the blah blah blah, aside from blowing open how utterly useless Harry and Markle are and how they are prostituting their titles (LCC says this in her latest vid), it will die down to a nothing burger. But it will take some time. I believe the RF already know this and have a plan in place, as they always do. Many people of influence will continue to not get involved. It will be a bumpy ride so hold on tight.

*

@KCM1212 said,
Jenns

did you want a screenshot of the Tweet saying Megs used a surrogate for your archive?

https://youhavebeenmarkled.tumblr.com

*

I believe a surrogate was more than likely used ie: an IVF "turkey baster" baby. I don't believe Megs carried the baby (vanity) although I do have trouble wrapping my arms around how the RF can be accomplices in the moon bump theory. That sceenshot is a keeper. I do think the child in the pics is Archie hence the IVF from H$M and the surrogate was just the carrier.
Ziggy said…
Thanks for sharing the twitter link with the Archie pics, he's very cute. I don't think the beach lady is Markle. I wouldn't be surprised if she hired a surrogate that looked a lot like herself, and that is the surrogate holding Archie. She looks a lot like Meghan but not 100%.

And I'm not sure what the heck is going on in the bottom picture, looks like a Meg of the past- she hasn't had a nose like that in a long time. So strange.
LavenderLady said…
Just saw the link on the boy and who he really is, Great catch! Now I can sleep tonight lol.
Ian's Girl said…
That tweet doesn't seem to me like a real KP tweet. Doubt they'd say "This is a public announcement" and they would assuredly not forget to capitalize that W!
Anonymous said…
@Not Meghan Markle

They are unreliable. They never hold Meghan 100% accountable, which is exactly why she is the way she is.

I agree with you. I’ve wondered if it’s because they want to keep that door to the Sussexes open just an inch. Which IMO is futile.
While I feel terribly sorry for the woman who had the miscarriage, I keep wondering which women who've had miscarriages don't speak to their friends and family about it. MM has tried to make this a talking point, but women who've had miscarriages have been talking to others about them for ages. There is no shame in having a miscarriage, but MM pushed a hot button for these women, and now they say that they can't discuss it openly? Who or what is preventing them from doing so?

It does seem that some famous women have taken up reporting their miscarriages on their social media. That's fine, if they want to do that, but personally, I feel that putting the details of your miscarriage online is a bit tacky, ie Chrissy Teigen, when such an awful thing as a miscarriage is used for PR purposes.

Every woman knows that miscarriages are emotionally devastating. They speak to their friends, family or other trusted people about it. This is not new. MM is just trying to stir up support for herself.

Ziggy said…
@JennS - nicely done! Brynn Gingras and her son Gavin- wow!!
AnT said…
THANK YOU @Ian's Girl!!!

Just scrolled back to JennS's post!!

@JennS --- AMAZING detective work!!!!! You get the Week's Emerald Tiara!! Honest to god, you need to contact William and say, hey, look what I have, hire me for MI6!

Miggy said…
Valentine Low speaks to Good Morning America about the bullying claims.

Video is 4:27 mins long.

https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1368294059995848704
LavenderLady said…
@Ian's Girl,

That occurred to me too. It may be fake but worth hanging on to.

This whole saga is spellbinding. So many twists and turns and the "who dunnit" factor is through the roof. No one really has all the answers except those people who are personally involved. This is why they generate so much attention.

I myself refuse to embroil myself so deep into it that I became a frazzled mess. That's exactly the obsession La Markle wants people to have over her.
KCM1212 said…
Snarkyatherbest said...
"I’m thinking about it and I for sure we would have another brf dump tomorrow but with the queen er al doing commonwealth day I think they want that to be the focus. However I would be curious if there are some subtle clues on what they are thinking, doing, wearing. Is it too muc to ask the queen to have Kate wear the Vladimir emerald tiara tomorrow. ๐Ÿ˜‰."

lololol...I almost redecorated the wall with a mouthful of coffee (TMI??). Thanks for the laugh
Mel said…
Silver Tree was a director and executive producer on Suits from 2015 to 2018.
There's the connection.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Suits_episodes
Speaking of Chrissy Teigen, she just said in the DM that MM's critics won't stop until MM has a miscarriage. Chrissy, you are in the DM almost every day, drumming up PR for yourself. Please shut up. this is just another PR stunt for you to get your name in the papers.

Many women work in hostile environments while pregnant, and they deliver healthy babies.

From the Mayo Clinic:

"While excessive stress isn't good for your overall health, there's no evidence that stress results in miscarriage. About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher because many miscarriages occur before the pregnancy is recognized."
Pantsface said…
@JennS - you really are a super sluether, well done, I enjoy reading your posts. I used to get called Miss Marple at work for my sleuthing abilities but they are nowhere near as good as yours :)
jessica said…
If you want a real ‘whodunit’ entertainment piece to spend time with, I’d recommend the recently released, The Undoing with Hugh Grant, Nicole Kidman and Donald Sunderland. They were all nominated for Golden Globes. It’s 6 episodes long and kept me on edge the entire time.
LavenderLady said…
That's exactly the obsession La Markle wants people to have over her. Let me expound just a wee bit on my statement here.

I was in a long term relationship with a narc who had very similar traits as Megsy Baby. Long story short. He loved nothing more than to create competitions between people. He literally got a high off gigantic pissing contests that he created. He also triangulated women so they would fight over him. He was tireless in creating "situations" (read drama) and then miraculously helping people out of the "situation". Once all the praise was heaped on him over his greatness in coming through for them (ha!), he sat back grinning like the Cheshire Cat very proud of himself. He actually got a huge high off of doing his thing never once stopping to reflect on how this affected the people in his life. Sounds like Haz and his Hag...this is how cult leaders get followers.

That narc game is not for me. I refuse to be a narc's supply! I refuse to play that game.
Anonymous said…
The thing that struck me about Silver Tree’s (?) photo of Meghan and Archie with the two other kids, is just how little hair M actually has. Did she destroy her natural hair with all the straightening treatments?

Archie is indeed a cute kid. It’s a pity he’ll be raised by Harry and Meghan.
JHanoi said…
I hope the BRF does another goodwill Charitable ....maybe Commonwealth Day part 2 on Monday. Or another Celebrate front line workers etc.

Try and keep some of those goodwill/ charitable headlines in the news to empathize what is important instead of wallowing around in the dramatic muckraking the Dumbartons are constantly ruminating on for financial gain.

@jenn,

Great work! Keep on going! :)
LavenderLady said…
@jessica said,
If you want a real ‘whodunit’ entertainment piece to spend time with, I’d recommend the recently released, The Undoing with Hugh Grant, Nicole Kidman and Donald Sunderland. They were all nominated for Golden Globes. It’s 6 episodes long and kept me on edge the entire time.

Thanks for recommending it. I will check it out!
KCM1212 said…
0h, Constant Gardener

That is one of the most heartbreaking phrases I have ever read:

"My father was the volatile, turn on a dime abuser. I was his target. From a very young age I became practiced at observing people, their character, moods, tells, etc, because of self-preservation. If I could see it coming, then I could attempt to flee or protect myself."

No child should ever have to protect herself from a parent. Im very sorry you had to.

One of the things I've learned in this mess of a "love story" is what a narcissist really is. Its a term too casually thrown around, I think. And we learn because people like you have shared the truth. Thank you. {{hugs}}

SwampWoman said…
@ConstantGardener33, I am so sorry to hear that you are a member of the abuse group. When you meet one, I know that your gut screams "DANGER DANGER DANGER here there be dragons".
Opus said…
@Not MM

I am afraid I concur with Swamp Woman. To make such a claim against the Duke of York would be something I trust the lawyers would greatly dissuade. There is you see no evidence and even if Prince Andrew slept with that seventeen year old woman whose name I cannot spell doing so is perfectly legal over here. As I have had to confess before I was once engaged to be married to a seventeen year old school girl - like Prince Andrew I categorically deny I now have to deny I even kissed her.

What else might she say? My guess is that all she will bang on about is that she was bullied and by reason of her race - the race that she does her best to hide. Let us suppose her American audience buy that piece of nonsense how does it help her ascent to political power? Married to a British Royal and sixth in line to the throne of England where her own child if he exists is seventh in line is surely career suicide for any would be American politician. Do the Democratic party really want Markle when they have Harris and presumably many others without her baggage? Markle strikes me as by reason of her marriage a nine day wonder. She is a car crash which we cannot turn away from but even car crashes have a very limited shelf life.

I see some are now saying the stress of it all will have her miscarrying. As far as that is concerned it only confirms my belief there is no 'second' child on the way. Well let us wait twenty four hours and see.
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KCM1212 said…
You too Swampwoman??? {{{hugs}}} to you as well.

Its hard to think of you as in lesser circumstances (if you will forgive a very lame euphemism). You seem as if you have always been the funny, breezy, loving scamp we see here. You earned that, I think.
Mel said…
JennS - you're a gem! Good find!

Opus - you called it. They had their say, everyone says, meh, and carries on with their real lives.

SwampWoman - people became *extremely* aware of the signs of concealed rage 

Highly attuned. I can spot something off in about a tenth of a second. I don't even have to try, I see it instantly. There's something about that rage that you just sense. I didn't even have to go up the stairs, I knew as soon as I opened the garage door.
LavenderLady said…
@SwampWoman said,
When you meet one, I know that your gut screams" DANGER DANGER DANGER here there be dragons".

*

How well I know this exact intuition...but I've learned to slay dragons so I'm good.
SwampWoman said…
Opus said Do the Democratic party really want Markle when they have Harris and presumably many others without her baggage?

Harris has an entire trainload of baggage starting with, but not limited to, sexual favors for political power.
Pantsface said…
@Jessica, thanks for the recommendation, will take a look despite my disdain for Hugh Grant and his foppish hair :) I love Donald Sutherland though!
KCM1212 said…
@Rebecca

That Tom Bower piece is really interesting, Rebecca. I can't wait for the book. I do disagree with almost everything in this passage:

"The fragile House of Windsor feared that Meghan’s refusal to discard Hollywood’s celebrity culture and adopt the conservative traditions embraced by the palaces would doom her new marriage and jeopardise the monarchy. Those suspicions were dismissed as racist.

That reaction was not entirely unjustified. In Britain and in America, Meghan is remarkably popular, especially among women.

Her supporters admire her ambition and outspokenness. Her critics are usually white."

The House of Windsor is not fragile IMO. MM may be "popular" with US tweens, but not in Britain, and I'm not sure if her critics are usually white. That may be true, but I have not seen statistics on that point. It may equally be true that her critics are Republican (in both political meanings), or Hottentots. It just feels lazy to me.

I did see a comment yesterday that Meghan wants to be Queen (or the gag-inducing Kween) and already has Harry walking five paces behind her.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Thanks. Also there is a difference between bullying and harassment.
I'm so sorry you have been a victim of bullying, I hope you are now better because it leaves its mark. Do read the website, I found it invaluable when I was bullied, my 'bible', but I hope it doesn't reopen old wounds. Take care.
KCM1212 said…
@Mel and @Lavender Lady

My heart goes out to you as well!!! My heart just breaks for that child you were (or the adult)

Okay..I will stop now
Mel said…
Re: Samantha saying that kid was Archie. She didn't say that exactly. It was implied, but not said that the beach kid is Archie.

I agree that how would she know, she hasn't seen Archie in real life, or even pics as far as we know?
Kinda wonder if she assumed something that's not true. The beach kid does look remarkably similar to the striped shirt kid.



There was a tweet showing pics of the striped shirt kid and the beach kid and somebody asked, Which one is real?
She answered, All of them.



Which one is real ??? I am so confused. Can u inbox me ? https://t.co/ZyHJ1XxbbH

I noticed that she's gone private again.
jessica said…
Well now that Candace Owens, an American conservative black political commentator who is married to a U.K. Lord’s son, has a piece in the daily mail on Meghan and her intentions we can safely assume that not only ‘white’ women condemn Meghan.

In fact I remember reading an entire thread on LSA of darker toned Black women upset that Meghan was claiming racism. Apparently there is a competitive nature to skin tone in the Black community and they felt she was disrespectful with allowing this nonsense to be construed as fact, rather than stick up for Black women who identify as Black.
KCM1212 said…
Blogger SwampWoman said...
Opus said Do the Democratic party really want Markle when they have Harris and presumably many others without her baggage?

Harris has an entire trainload of baggage starting with, but not limited to, sexual favors for political power.

In addition to her mouthy niece!

Thanks Swampie!
jessica said…
Pantsface,

It’s a serious role for Hugh, and his scenes are great. Donald has some fantastic lines. The whole thing is really well done.
@constant gardener,

I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. Nobody should have to go through it.

@Swampwoman,

Although my narc wasn't a family member, and I could get away from her easily, I also have the "Danger! Danger!" gut feeling at times. Sometimes, it's with somebody that I've just met, but it's a visceral feeling that something is off about them. It can feel as if you're jumping back in horror or fear, but you've not moved. All of the synapses in your brain are firing. That feeling hasn't failed me yet.
LavenderLady said…
@KCM1212,

I'm older now and wiser so I don't let narcs trigger me anymore. I had to toughen up but it's the strong boundaries I keep that helps me feel safe. But consequently I put walls up as well and that is not good.


Thank you...
@swampwoman,

I wanted to add that it is a completely different feeling from normal frightening or scary experiences. I've been shot at, attacked by a trained guard dog (German Shepherd),
been in burning buildings with the roof collapsing around me (no protective gear), meeting drug dealers and murderers, and still, that Danger! Danger! feeling is different.
KCM1212 said…
@Mel

Do you suppose she was tweeking her? All of the kids were presumably "real".

At the bottom of the Tom Bowers article there is a piece titled "Ten Questions We Want To Hear" (copycats!) with a headline called "Bully Rap Time Up". It says:

"Too much time has passed for action to be taken regarding bullying claims against Meghan, says an employment rights expert.

Alex Monaco said: “There is a three-month limit for most claims and as this complaint was made in 2018, it seems that deadline has long passed."

Is this true?

Its too late for the Sussexes in any event, since they no longer work for the RF. But that seems like a very small window for such a (potentially) traumatic event.
JennS said…
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KCM1212 said…
@AvaC

"I grew up at an Outward Bound school (climbing, sailing etc.) in the 1960s"

That should be the first sentence of your memoirs.

What an utterly groovy way to grow up!!
Mel said…
KCM1212 said…

Do you suppose she was tweeking her? All of the kids were presumably "real".
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That's how I took it.

LavenderLady said…
@Jenns said,
The question is...why do people try to start rumors?
Whoever started spreading that photo around must have known who the boy really was and yet they made a collage along with the other proposed Archie photos and tried to muddle the questionable issues around the Harkles even further than they already are.
I thought little Brian looked like he could very well be Archie and so did others. We as a group would have wasted time on that photo when it was all just a hoax. I wonder if a Markle fan would pull a stunt like that!

*

Apparently the chatter has been all over that the photos were TMd/copywrited by La Markle herself. So it's assumed SHE started those rumors for added ooomph PR to her take down the BRF interview tomorrow? Did I misunderstand?
SwampWoman said…
Blogger KCM1212 said...
You too Swampwoman??? {{{hugs}}} to you as well.

Its hard to think of you as in lesser circumstances (if you will forgive a very lame euphemism). You seem as if you have always been the funny, breezy, loving scamp we see here. You earned that, I think.


No worries about me. I can feel sorry for him, even, because his childhood was very traumatic. He was orphaned at an early age, loving home gone forever, kids farmed out to whoever would take them, worked hard for their keep and barely kept from starving. Appeared to be a good person to others (until they got to know him). Women envied my mom for being married to such a good looking, good natured guy. They didn't know that the good looking exterior hid a demon.

My brothers and I survived and became protectors of the weak and downtrodden.
AnT said…
(((((SwampWoman))))) ๐ŸŒป❤️
LavenderLady said…
@Pantsface said,
I used to get called Miss Marple at work

*

Lol. that's cute. My BFF calls me Colombo because though I look bumbling, sometimes disheveled and rumpled and can look befuddled while scratching my head, I usually know exactly what the hell is going on... ;)

I think I resemble Lily Tomlin as Frankie in Grace and Frankie. We have the same vibe, man.
KCM1212 said…

@Swampwoman

"My brothers and I survived and became protectors of the weak and downtrodden"

You are golden ๐Ÿ˜Š

(And maybe super heroes)
DesignDoctor said…
Jessica and Sandie,

I agree that MM needs Oprah to hook her up in HW and Oprah does not need MM. Oprah's popularity and relevance has waned dramatically in the US since she left her talk show. I had CBS on TV today and they have been promoting the interview very often so this is a huge PR event for Oprah and benefits her brand, too.

IDK why telling the world about the hoped for pre-wedding interview with O is so important. Ancient history!
Meg plugged her relationship with H on The Tig with the spooning bananas and other hints. She showed her abiliity to be discreet about her relationship with H was nil. I think she had a pre-wedding interview/article in Vanity Fair or Harper's Bazaar.

I still thypothesize that they are using the interview to line their pockets with cash in some way.

Mel said…
LavenderLady... The striped shirt kid picture is now copyrighted by MM. It wasn't earlier, but it is now. This is according to her law firm Schillings.

The beach kid appears not to be copyrighted at all. People might think that MM copyrighted them both but that appears not to be the case.
Animal Lover said…
@Lavender Lady DL refers to Oprah as Orca.

This is from The Sun, hope it was posted before:


TOM BOWER Meghan Markle wanted to be Queen… Oprah interview is her revenge

FINDING fame and fortune in Hollywood has been Meghan Markle’s burning ambition for over 30 years.

Ever since her father — a film lighting designer — took his young daughter to a studio she has yearned for stardom.

Repeatedly, Tinseltown rejected her. Tonight’s two-hour appearance on US TV and its replay to millions worldwide is her revenge.

Not only against some of the studio bosses who dismissed her as another second-rate actress, but also against everyone else who failed to appreciate her immense talents.

Fixed firmly in her sights tonight is the Queen, the Royal Family and Britain’s establishment.

Like everyone else in Meghan’s self-centred world, their sin is to have rejected her wishes.

Like a Hollywood diva, she has cursed those who don’t understand that being the Duchess of Sussex was not enough.

Walking in procession behind the other royals, especially Prince William and Kate, was demeaning.

'DESTROY HER DESTINY'
She wanted to be the Queen of England. All those Britons who stood in her way are accused of sexism and racism.

The question is whether Meghan ever intended to stay in Britain.


LavenderLady said…
Oh just one more thing... lol!

I LOVE your handle Pantsface. I read awhile back how you came to choose it and it made me smile. :)
LavenderLady said…
@AL,

I saw that! I'm a wee bit ashamed of myself but I got quite the snort out of it ha ha.
Pantsface said…
@LavenderLady - lol, I didn't think anyone ever read my posts :)
LavenderLady said…
@Mel said,
LavenderLady... The striped shirt kid picture is now copyrighted by MM. It wasn't earlier, but it is now. This is according to her law firm Schillings.

The beach kid appears not to be copyrighted at all. People might think that MM copyrighted them both but that appears not to be the case.

*

Thanks Mel!

So back to Charade's great question last night; why is Meghan cw-ing a photo of a kid that is not hers? Rhetorical question.
LavenderLady said…
@Pantsface,
I do! Your handle just drew me in. It's really cool beans.
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Miggy said…
Some very sad personal stories on here today.

Abuse is such a painful subject to discuss, so kudos to @ConstantGardener and to @Swampwoman for being brave enough to tell their stories.

Hugs to you both and to anyone else on here who has suffered.
Animal Lover said…
Part 2

Did she honestly want to sacrifice her Californian lifestyle and serve as a member of the Royal Family in rainy Britain?

Or did she, as I believe, always intend to use the marriage and title as a stepping stone to further her ambitions in the sunshine?

Convinced of her own greatness, Meghan thinks she has, for years, been the victim of plots to destroy her destiny.

While others shone in leading roles, Meghan had bit parts.
Until five years ago, her most recognised credit was featuring in a Canadian TV soap called Suits.

After she was written out in 2016, her career hit a brick wall. Adrift but undaunted in Toronto, she orchestrated a new start.

Brilliantly, she invented a new script. Intelligent, attractive and ruthless, Meghan set her sights on marrying higher. And she headed to London.

“Who are the single men?” she asked an Englishwoman. Among the cast list was Prince Harry.

Their meeting in a London club was described as “a blind date”. But Meghan knew exactly who she was meeting — and how much the relationship could work for her.

Alone and miserable, Harry, then 31, was a forlorn character searching for love.

'A DENT IN HIS REPUTATION'
A series of unhappy relationships and public relations disasters had put a dent in his reputation.

But his military service in Afghanistan and his creation of the Invictus Games for disabled military servicemen had added supporters to those who still recalled the enchanting small boy walking behind his mother’s coffin.

Harry fell head over heels in love. We don’t know if the actress felt the same.

One truth is certain: Harry’s closest relations including William and Prince Charles were wary whether the Hollywood divorcee would make the necessary sacrifices to serve as a loyal member of the Royal Family.

Insiders heard how she had ended her two-year marriage to Trevor Engelson.

Without forewarning, Engelson opened a letter sent from Toronto to Los Angeles containing her wedding and engagement rings. Outraged, he told a friend: “I feel like I was a piece of something stuck to the bottom of her shoe.”

The royal family genuinely embraced Meghan when she first joined the Royal Family

Meghan’s demand to wear a particular tiara on her wedding day had been vetoed by Buckingham Palace.
On Meghan and Harry’s brilliant wedding day in Windsor in 2018, the Royal Family genuinely embraced the bride and her mother. The waiting crowds cheered themselves hoarse. Only a few insiders could have imagined the horrors which have followed.

“What Meghan wants, Meghan gets,” Harry famously raged during the preparations. Meghan’s demand to wear a particular tiara had been vetoed by Buckingham Palace.

Even on that sunlit day, no doubt she fumed against the Royal Family.

Like a consummate actress, she concealed her anger and smiled. Over the following months, stories emerged of Meghan’s tearful staff complaining of bullying and worse. Her spokespeople vigorously denied the allegations.

Her decision to move from Kensington Palace to Frogmore Cottage in Windsor hinted at the breach with the Royal Family. Insiders could not believe that a Californian would want to live for long under the Heathrow flight path.

Flying on a private jet to New York for a £350,000 baby shower party with US celebrities confirmed her contempt for modesty.

Miggy said…
@JennS,

I still have to page in my browswer and haven't refreshed, so will go and see if I can grab Sam's comments.

@Opus,

This article in the DM says exactly what you said about the interview. the palace isn't going to react, and they feel that everything will die down a couple of days after it airs. I certainly hope so!

I don't know why I suddenly can't create a link to DM articles, but look up, "Palace officials give withering dismissal of Harry-Meghan- Oprah interview."

Here's a bit of it:

"Aides described the mood at Buckingham Palace ahead of the interview as 'calm', with courtiers said to be maintaining a sense of 'this, too, will pass'.

One source told The Mail on Sunday: 'Most of what is said will be lost in the mists of time. History teaches us that only the interviewer wins from these programmes."

I hope they're right.
Animal Lover said…
Part 3
'HYPOCRISY'
Refusing to show son Archie’s face to the camera after his birth and demanding privacy, while constantly speaking to US journalists, confirmed her hypocrisy.

Friends’ criticisms of the Queen, prompted it seemed by Meghan, were outrightly rude. Insiders know there is more scandal to emerge.

One year later, I considered writing the truth about Meghan. I knew the Royal Family and their staff had become alarmed that she threatened to become an agent of destruction.

The fragile House of Windsor feared that Meghan’s refusal to discard Hollywood’s celebrity culture and adopt the conservative traditions embraced by the palaces would doom her new marriage and jeopardise the monarchy. Those suspicions were dismissed as racist.

That reaction was not entirely unjustified. In Britain and in America, Meghan is remarkably popular, especially among women.

Her supporters admire her ambition and outspokenness. Her critics are usually white.

Yet seeing Meghan and Harry on the lawn with Oprah Winfrey, the image is strikingly similar to the Duke and Duchess of Windsor after 1937.

The ex-king’s relationship with US divorcee Wallis Simpson critically damaged the monarchy.

At least the Windsors were aware of the problems.

Meghan and Harry clearly do not care about the uproar they are causing. On the contrary, they are clearly eager for a battle.

Buckingham Palace fears that Meghan sees outright warfare as a badge of pride.

Meghan and Harry quit the UK after stepping back from the Royal Family

The couple's choice to move from Kensington Palace to Frogmore Cottage in Windsor hinted about the breach with the Royal Family

Here are ten questions we would like the couple to answer:

Q: Meghan, why did you split from your first husband, film producer Trevor Engelson after just two years of marriage? Your friends were shocked and suggested you put your career first after landing a role filming Suits in Toronto.

Q: Harry, don’t you think it’s odd you’ve never met your father-in-law Thomas? And Meghan why won’t you make it up to him? He is desperate to see his grandson before he dies.

Q: Meghan, why did you say in your engagement interview you had never heard of Harry before you met him? Does anyone believe that?

Q: Why were you so surprised at the pressures of being a royal? You knew what happened to Princess Diana and Harry said he told you what to prepare for.

Q: Why did you agree to a lavish wedding watched by the whole world but didn’t want a royal title for Archie? Was it because you never intended to stay in the royal family?

Q: Wasn’t it insensitive to complain about your lot in Africa, Meghan, while surrounded by people living in abject poverty?

Q: Why did you both lecture us on climate change and then take private jets on holidays?

Q: Meghan, why have reports emerged that you bullied Kensington Palace staff and why would anyone make them up?

Q: Harry, how does any of this help to heal the rift with the royal family, particularly your brother William?

Q: How could you bring about all this negative publicity when Prince Philip in hospital?
Pantsface said…
I sort of "met" Prince Charles many years ago, 2007, he came to open an English whiskey distillary near me and the kids from my daughters primary school were invited to wave banners etc at his arrival via helicopter on the nearby playing fields. I have to say he was most gracious, showed interest (whether he was or wasn't) came across as normal and looked far younger than he did in press photos at the time. The kids didn't know him from adam of course, just that he was a prince, but he embraced it and was just lovely to everyone.

Miggy said…
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@pantsface,

I read your posts, and I'm sure that a lot of others also do. Things just move so fast when breaking news happens, and it takes hours to catch up on what everybody's written here, to do some research and then report it.

I wish there was a way to comment right under a person's post so that nobody feels left out when they aren't acknowledged.

It happens to me all of the time, but that's just how it goes here.
LavenderLady said…
@Jocelyn's Bellinis said,
This article in the DM says exactly what you said about the interview. the palace isn't going to react, and they feel that everything will die down a couple of days after it airs. I certainly hope so!

*

Their usual MO as I stated in my post at 12:38 am. @KCM1212 said "The House of Windsor is not fragile IMO". I agree 100% with this! It's not their first rodeo...
Miggy said…
@JennS,

Sam's replies re the photos.

To the question: "Which one is real ??? I am so confused. Can u inbox me ?"

She replied with 4 tweets...

1) "They all are"

2) "He's beautiful"

3) "I'm pretty sure those are all Archie different stages different angles."

4) "They're beautiful and apart from everything else I'm sure she's a good mom"
LavenderLady said…
@Jenns said,
What does everyone think of Markle copyrighting the other carrot-Archie photo?

*

Back to the question, why would she copyright a photo of a kid that's not her's. Not rhetorical. That's a great question @Charade put out last night.

Anyone?...
Bueller?
Snarkyatherbest said…
@JennS is working hard to secure the Hot Rob win. You find out where archie is really living and I think Hot Rob Will personally come and congratulate you for getting the trash taken out of Montecito ๐Ÿ˜‰
KCM1212 said…
@Animal Lover

Thanks for the article!

@Pantsface

I read you. Every time. And I also love your avi. I always smile to see that very cool cat.

Does anyone have access to the Dominic Green article in The Telegraph? I read it in a blog (but can't copy and paste).
Its exceptionally thought-provoking:
(I got some snippets from the Daily Star)

"Historian Dominic Green has claimed the CBS primetime special will 'trash Britain's image' and cause American's to think badly against Brits and the royal family.

Writing for The Telegraph, he said: "When Americans talk about snobbery, they don’t mean the Old World snobbery about when you put the milk in your tea or whether, like Michelle Obama, you lay hands on the Queen.

"They mean the real New World snobbery: the snobbery of race, and the social legacies of slavery.

"This is the switch that Meghan and Harry are pulling. Perhaps they are pulling it quite deliberately, as a way of catapulting themselves to the top of America’s showbiz tree, where they can nestle with virtue-signalling, environment-saving, Democrat-donating plutocrats like Oprah, the Clooneys and the Obamas.

"This is why Monday’s proceedings are going to trash Britain’s image in American eyes.

"When Meghan and Harry say “class”, America hears “race”. Especially now, when America is undergoing one of its periodic bouts of puritan sanctimony, and when most of the media endorse the Democratic line that America’s past sins require public rituals of purgation."

He added the way to reduce the damage they could do to Britain's image is to 'reduce the value of their currency' within the celebrity world.

The interview comes as Prince Philip remains in hospital battling an infection and recovering from a successful heart operation. The couple confirmed the special will go ahead despite calls for it to be delayed for the Duke of Edinburgh.

The Times reported this week Meghan faced a bullying complaint from her time in Kensington Palace, she denies the allegations and a spokesperson said she was "saddened" by the reports.

The allegations claim the Duchess drove two personal assistants out of the household, and undermined the confidence of a third staff member.

Meghan's spokesman said it was the "latest attack on her character, particularly as someone who has been the target of bullying herself and is deeply committed to supporting those who have experienced pain and trauma"


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/meghan-markle-prince-harrys-oprah-23611749
lucy said…
I hope that is Archie as it's nice to see him around kids. It is a good photo and I even think Meg looks good. she looks young and fresh faced.

Not to be catty but Meg looks absolutely dreadful with Oprah. This is moment she waited her whole life for and she looks terrible. Inappropriately dressed. Seriously they are on a garden swing in California! Lip looks stung by bee and her cheeks do not look plump to me they look plastic. Jennifer Lawrence eyes ๐Ÿ™„

She really looks bad. Oprah loves it. What an embarrassment this is. The tweets of support are so humiliating. The unemployed American actor drunk tweeting England on the Monarchy. Host of The View demanding The Queen of England apologize to Rachel Markle . Is she for real? So embarrassing and she doesn't even work for CBS! We are showing our crazy

I really feel for Catherine. The whole family, but Catherine went through emotional hell with Meghan. She was target and took hit after hit from beginning. All the turmoil chaos drama, fake affair! Meg (allegedly) gifts her a knife for Christmas? Seriously? Is that the Christmas she cancelled with immediate family to host her too?

How does it end? If they lose the titles to send the clear message then she rebrands Princess Meghan and now I am staring at Princess Meghan towels at Target. What a mess.
















Pantsface said…
@jocelyn'sBellinis - I don't take it personally, this is a fast moving blog at times and I am just as guilty for not giving credit where it's due. Also the fact we are all in different time zones, doesn't help. I'm in the UK and often so much is posted overnight (to me) by nutties across the pond, it can be hard to keep up and acknowledge everyones contributions they are all valid and welcome x
KCM1212 said…
@JocelynsBellinis

I really wish we had "like" buttons!
You are another I always read, Jocelyn
KCM1212 said…
@Lucy
"She really looks bad. Oprah loves it. What an embarrassment this is. The tweets of support are so humiliating. The unemployed American actor drunk tweeting England on the Monarchy. Host of The View demanding The Queen of England apologize to Rachel Markle . Is she for real? So embarrassing and she doesn't even work for CBS! We are showing our crazy"

Agree 100%. It really makes Americans look incapable of comprehending anything deeper than a selfie.

"How does it end? If they lose the titles to send the clear message then she rebrands Princess Meghan and now I am staring at Princess Meghan towels at Target. What a mess.."

I love this! LOL๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
lucy said…
Great pics Jenn! Meghan copyrighting someone else's picture is really shady, showcases her greed and really shines a light on silver trees tweet that matters nothing in relation to how Meghan treated her staff.
Sandie said…
@lucy

I also find her appearance for the interview mystifying. Is this her 'I am a victim in mourning for our huge losses' look?

I really thought she would do Earth mother, California laid back look.

It just amazes that someone can spend so much money and look so bad!
Miggy said…
Last post from me...

Harry’s making the same mistake as Diana - and I fear he’ll come to regret it, just like his mother did, writes royal biographer PENNY JUNOR

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9334157/PENNY-JUNOR-Harrys-making-mistake-Diana-fear-hell-come-regret-it.html

LavenderLady said…
@Sandie said,
I also find her appearance for the interview mystifying. Is this her 'I am a victim in mourning for our huge losses' look?

I really thought she would do Earth mother, California laid back look.

*

She's trying to pull off the Black Madonna. It's backfired on her.
punkinseed said…
DesignDoctor, M&H are lying about not being paid. Doria taught Megs to never give the milk away for free, so yes. Some kind of exchange will happen in some type of quid pro quo or Megs would not do it.
LavenderLady said…
@Miggy,

Same here. Slainte!
punkinseed said…
LavenderLady, ha ha! Yes! Like Morticia or something.
Megs needs to complete her outfit with a gawdy mask worn by Eyes Wide Shut slaves. Oh wait, she kind of already does look waxy masked with all that contouring and botox.
lizzie said…
Jocelyn'sBellinis wrote:

"Chrissy [Tiegan], you are in the DM almost every day, drumming up PR for yourself. Please shut up...

"Many women work in hostile environments while pregnant, and they deliver healthy babies.

"From the Mayo Clinic:

While excessive stress isn't good for your overall health, there's no evidence that stress results in miscarriage."

Thank you. Babies are born to women in prison, women being held hostage, and women in concentration camps too. Where did this idea come from that a miscarriage can be caused so easily by hearing upsetting talk or by having an argument with someone? Snowflake ideas I guess. It wasn't that long ago it was considered quite offensive to suggest pregnant women were too delicate to compete in the workplace, for example. Surely Chrissy doesn't want to return to the era of "confinements" during pregnancy.
-----

@JennS,

Good work re: BeachBoy! The baseball cap makes more sense now. (Why would Archie be wearing a baseball cap with a NY logo in CA?)
Here's a video of the Behavior Panel guys discussing a woman whom Piers Morgan has said is the best liar he's ever come across. The woman, who has been convicted of murdering her husband, is being interviewed by Piers, and the Behavior Panel discuss her being a narc, among other things.

This video could give all of us some ideas of what to look for in Oprah's interview. MM and this woman appear to have a lot of the same traits.

One of the experts brings up the point that women are more attuned to finding the "tells" from other women, than men do. In other words, women can more easily spot a lying woman than men can. They repeat this aspect several times in their podcasts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fgf8oCm5-c
SwampWoman said…
KCM1212 said: "Historian Dominic Green has claimed the CBS primetime special will 'trash Britain's image' and cause American's to think badly against Brits and the royal family.

Writing for The Telegraph, he said: "When Americans talk about snobbery, they don’t mean the Old World snobbery about when you put the milk in your tea or whether, like Michelle Obama, you lay hands on the Queen.

"They mean the real New World snobbery: the snobbery of race, and the social legacies of slavery.

"This is the switch that Meghan and Harry are pulling. Perhaps they are pulling it quite deliberately, as a way of catapulting themselves to the top of America’s showbiz tree, where they can nestle with virtue-signalling, environment-saving, Democrat-donating plutocrats like Oprah, the Clooneys and the Obamas.

"This is why Monday’s proceedings are going to trash Britain’s image in American eyes.

"When Meghan and Harry say “class”, America hears “race”. Especially now, when America is undergoing one of its periodic bouts of puritan sanctimony, and when most of the media endorse the Democratic line that America’s past sins require public rituals of purgation."

He added the way to reduce the damage they could do to Britain's image is to 'reduce the value of their currency' within the celebrity world.


Speaking as an American, many of us view Hollywood 'celebrities" with barely veiled contempt and a giant eye roll when they start moralizing. They *want* to be influential. Many of us in middle-class America don't care for their kind of influence. Some are genuinely talented; most are pimps and whores dressed up in designer clothing, acting as though they are respectable people. How dare THEY tell me or anybody else about moral behavior. They wouldn't know moral behavior; they shed that years ago.
DesignDoctor said…
@Sandie

Agreed. How can someone who spends so much money look so bad? She looks like a bitter, old woman in her funeral gar and severe hair. The laid back chic CA look would have been so much more relatable and would have garnered sympathy IMO Her Wallis look is NOT attractive!
SwampWoman said…
DesignDoctor said...
@Sandie

Agreed. How can someone who spends so much money look so bad? She looks like a bitter, old woman in her funeral gar and severe hair. The laid back chic CA look would have been so much more relatable and would have garnered sympathy IMO Her Wallis look is NOT attractive!


I think that she's trying to look respectable and believable and not trashy/flashy.
jessica said…
Lucy, I can’t agree more about Meghan’s ‘starlet’ styling on Oprah. It’s aged her 15 years.

I’m guessing the black is her ‘take me seriously’ look, but how can we with the ill fitting and the poop on her shoulder.

If she wanted to do black she should have worn a form fitting minidress with her hair down. The long sleeve, goth look is rather jarring for a garden party with Oprah. It doesn’t work. Add to it, Harry and his worn out clothes and we have the disaster couple being style pariahs, once again.

I think Meghan is mortified at how it looks now that the clips are coming out.
DesignDoctor said…
SwampWoman
There are some very high end designers who do an elegant CA chic look very well.
How someone who has spent years with stylists working on her look--I.e., Suits----can consistently dress with so many "don't " looks is beyond my understanding.
DesignDoctor said…
Punkinseed

Agree! No way are they not lining their pockets with cash for the interview.
SwampWoman said…
jessica said: If she wanted to do black she should have worn a form fitting minidress with her hair down. The long sleeve, goth look is rather jarring for a garden party with Oprah. It doesn’t work. Add to it, Harry and his worn out clothes and we have the disaster couple being style pariahs, once again.

This is not Meghan being interviewed; this is the Duchess of Sussex being interviewed with the bit part of the Duke being played by Harry. I think this is her wronged Royal Duchess look. Dignified, bravely holding up under the weight of the abuse administered just because she is black. *sniffle*

Ian's Girl said…
I wonder if the bird poo dress was the most expensive (or most recognizable luxury label) freebie she's been given?

Because yes, she looks like hell and it doesn't fit her.

I have never seen anyone in the public eye have such poorly fitting clothes so often. They are either too tight or way too loose and she doesn't appear to have the slightest understanding of good undergarments. ( I'm guessing she sizes up in shoes to allow for swelling)

She does California Casual well; it's her best look and it baffles me that she looking like a Mafioso Nonna when she could easily look great on her home turf, wearing what suits her to a T.



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AnT said…
@lucy,

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ hall of fame tweet! Dying at the descriptions of M, and the Princess Meghan Target towels
Lady C’s latest YouTube is scalding the Douchess of MonteDeceito! She was late with her video today.
Ian's Girl said…
God bless ya real good, JennS. No TV here, and I wouldn't have watched it anyway.

I look forward to your thoughts and recap! Truly appreciate you sitting through it.
lucy said…
Just wait until Harry plops down next to her in that suit ๐Ÿ˜’

Today I have been trying to keep up with comments. My heart goes out to those who have dealt with a narcissist and offer you continued strength. Teaching me about them as well so I am awate. Thank you :)

I read and can't reply until I scroll through them all and 40 messages later it is rough. I Am reading the tweet of Meghan stalking the Tailor to meet Harry someone comments "well good thing she wasn't stalking the shoe store, she would have never found him" -unknown (sorry)

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
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SwampWoman said…
DesignDoctor said...
SwampWoman
There are some very high end designers who do an elegant CA chic look very well.
How someone who has spent years with stylists working on her look--I.e., Suits----can consistently dress with so many "don't " looks is beyond my understanding.


Heh. I am not a fashion maven. I might do resort casual. Mostly I'm a jeans and T-shirt person.

I think that MM is in costume according to the script in her head.

WOW! Lady C pulls no punches in today's video:

"She (MM) is a pathological fantasist of the highest order. I actually am beginning to seriously think that Meghan Markle not only has a serious disorder. I will actually say what I think this serious disorder is. I think of all of the evidence that I have seen, what I've heard about, et cetera, that she is a malignant narcissist with sociopathic tendencies, who has a sadistic streak in her nature that allows her to perpetrate cruelty upon others, and she thinks that's perfectly ok. She has no empathy whatsoever. I also think she is paranoid."
AnT said…
@JennS,

I am working my arse off here, we did get all our files and answers thank god, and now up to an 80% probability of watching live tomorrow after all! Will let you know. If I do I will try to post now and then with you, if you want?. I will at least post to let you know that I am watching.

If I do get to watch, I plan to surround myself with my grandmother’s holy cards and rosaries, per @Puds and her safety tips.

Maybe we should make those safety periscopes kids use to watch eclipses of the sun, and view the Marklebeest that way?
jessica said…
The whole issue with Meghan and her clothes is that they aren’t memorable. The only memorable Image was the preying mantis outfit from commonwealth service of last year. With this interview, she might be aiming ‘Royal’ but how did she end up in oversized funeral black? She looks like she got lost in the discount XXL section of Saks and called it a day. Then requested the awful updo. If anything, she should have added a Tiara. THAT would be memorable.

But no, we are stuck with the moaning and groaning half-in half-out Rachel, without the good hair. She won’t even commit to being all-in on Cali chic, as she’s attempted all year. Spotify was similar to this look, but even that version of Rachel was over airbrushed and she had yet another ‘face’.

Ah the life of a Narc. Pick your identity already!
lucy said…
They hooked me. I am now going to watch it live but then Meghan's voice will come on and I won't make it, not for no two hours. She would have to give birth on that table at the end for me to want to tune into that for two hours

๐Ÿ˜‚ sorry. Goodnight!
I'm laughing so hard that I've got tears rolling down my face. Lady C's explanation of the Urban Dictionary definition of "crocodile" is hilarious. A must listen! She's talking about oceans, ships and passageways to try to describe the definition without saying any bad words.

I think Lady C is watching us. I hope so! I'm not sure if anybody looked up "crocodile" in the UD before me, but I hadn't read anything about it before I posted it.
SwampWoman said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis, I'd shout "testify, sister!" to Lady C if I could!

WOW! Lady C pulls no punches in today's video:

"She (MM) is a pathological fantasist of the highest order. I actually am beginning to seriously think that Meghan Markle not only has a serious disorder. I will actually say what I think this serious disorder is. I think of all of the evidence that I have seen, what I've heard about, et cetera, that she is a malignant narcissist with sociopathic tendencies, who has a sadistic streak in her nature that allows her to perpetrate cruelty upon others, and she thinks that's perfectly ok. She has no empathy whatsoever. I also think she is paranoid."


So, basically, "Liar, liar, pants on fire, you psycho b*tch!"
lucy said…
Someone over at Plant's exclaiming tea pot store is true! Nothing more bye
@KCM1212, SwampWoman, and others, thank you. Watching this MM story has helped me think about narcs and really dial in on what they do and what can cause someone to grow up to exhibit these characteristics. These folks can have different faces for different situations. People never believed my father was a bad guy because he had a charming, funny public face and was a different person behind closed doors. It was like an act that would be put on. There is also the subject of their enablers.

And yes about the "dangerdanger" gut signal. Totally spot on. The spidey senses tingle, and you just know.

@JennS, I think I saw something in The Sun that the Australia stuff was being looked into by a journalist...yes here it is:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14256936/meghan-markle-aides-bust-up-australia-bullying-probe/
Ian's Girl said…
Best Times article yet, JennS. Pulled no punches, and oh...that sublime British humor.

Thank you for sharing all this with us!
lucy said…
Oh my gosh swampwoman do you think she broke her dog's legs? ๐Ÿ˜ณ
SwampWoman said…
Blogger lucy said...
They hooked me. I am now going to watch it live but then Meghan's voice will come on and I won't make it, not for no two hours. She would have to give birth on that table at the end for me to want to tune into that for two hours

๐Ÿ˜‚ sorry. Goodnight!


You couldn't even rope me in with the promise of the birth on the table unless it would burst through the chest wall like Alien. I would hope that people would be standing by to take DNA samples.

I bought a huge bottle of Chilean white wine for viewing the comments, though.
abbyh said…
I was reading an article about the earrings which noted that she still has them. One of the commenters posted about how she won't give them away.

I thought about it. Not that she would give them away but that those would be just the sort of thing you would want if you thought you would waltz back to LA and be invited to lots of red carpet events. But now? where would she get to wear them? Not something you wear to a Mommy and Me or yoga class. Doubt she's doing the run to Whole Foods. Just another expensive bauble that you are responsible for until it is returned to the Crown.

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