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Open Post: "The Bench" Interview

New open post to discuss Meghan's upcoming NPR interview for "The Bench."

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Grisham said…
Threats to Camilla’s family are obviously very wrong.

She posted the threat and there was nothing that mentioned HAMS In it.

Unless she is holding back information (and she may be), there is nothing connecting the threat to Harry, Meghan or their supporters. If anyone has different information, please inform me. Thank you.
Christine said…
The Lilibet is a tribute to Philip story is super laaaame. From her voice coach? Come on.

H&M need to realize that the public has it's limit.

I am very happy about the appeal too!
Miggy said…
From Angela Levin (3 hrs ago)

I'm told Associated Newspapers have been given the ok to appeal in Meghan's letter to her Dad.
Grisham said…
This is what Camilla posted of the threat: “hate your 3 kids. They should not be breathing. They must die! We are watching you and yours. That nasty husband of yours cannot watch them all the time you know. We know where to get you all. We don’t lie we act. We love to (sword emojis) you will be a pleasure to kill.”

So, yeah, that is horrific and I hope she immediately reported it to the police because you can’t be too careful.

In looking around Twitter, people were saying she lied about MM, yes, but also Brexit so.. this is for the police to investigate. If it is someone who associates with “sussex squad” then I hope they are identified and prosecuted.
jessica said…
One thing to note- I find it interesting Meghan is still trying to have a big career while supposedly raising small children. You normally need to do one or the other. So, safe to say she’s not choosing to raise her ‘kids’.
jessica said…
Is Prince Harry the stay at home dad in this scenario? Hubs says there’s probably no kids.

Points to ponder!
@Maneki Neko

If you did post that, I missed it so thanks you for it now.

So much for compassion and kindness. Yes, these people are absolutely vile

BTW, It's interesting that Thomas is said to have Dutch origins - some time ago when I checked it out I found the family seemed to be from Alsace, a place called Lampertsloch, that's in France near the German border, quite a way from the Netherlands.

This was long-disputed territory - Germany annexed it in 1870-1 (Franco Prussian War) but it was restored to France after the First World War. I did wonder whether there might be an element of atavistic antipathy towards the UK for its part in the post-war arrangements, given that the family were ethnic Germans? It's a long shot but could it have added to her motivation?
`Lucozade' is of course another euphemism!
SwampWoman said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid: So much for compassion and kindness. Yes, these people are absolutely vile

Yes, they are. Anybody that would harangue their family FOR MONEY and besmirch their reputation on an international broadcast while a beloved family member is dying is beyond salvage IMO.
Miggy said…
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@Puds

That too is possible - was that the so-called `Maltese ancestry', the chap in the army who was posted out there?

Depends which part of Ireland they were from - still, I knew someone from Co Cork in the Army - and he told me his Dad had been an IRA man but at the outbreak of the last war he signed up with us!

My Irish ancestry is from Galway and Kerry but one lot came over at the end of the 16th century, the other during of just after the Napoleonic era. So no issue there.
Grisham said…
Daily mail points out Harry and Meghan’s engagement photo (among others) in her receiving room, though it does look like flowers might be partially obscuring it.
NeutralObserver said…
@Maneki Neko, In her article Camilla was clearly spelling it out for any idiot, that the SussexSquad have been harassing her. She's humorous about it, & I sympathize with her distaste for the poor spelling & language skills of her tormentors, but the cruelty & nastiness are unmissable. Are they 'telling their truths' & being 'strong?'
Is this what #6 & #6w call 'kindness,' 'compassion,' & 'good mental health?' As Ted Hastings said in In Line of Duty, 'Jesus, Mary, Joseph & the wee donkey.' Apologizing in advance for anyone offended by a line from a fictional character in a tv show.
HappyDays said…
On CDAN today:


WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 2021

Blind Item #9
In case you didn't notice, the alliterate one is buying ads for her book that look like unbiased reviews.
NeutralObserver said…
Nutties who are legal eagles in the UK or the USA can correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been under the impression that appeals being granted in the UK are much more rare than here in the USA.

@Opus, our legal expert, has said that a mistake has to have been found in the judge's application of the law, so judges are very hesitant to overrule. Correct me if I misunderstood this, @Opus. In the USA, appeals are often granted on technicalities, or some failure to follow procedure by any of the parties involved.

That ANL was granted an appeal is a very big deal, win or lose.
TheGrangle said…
I am so pleased that ANL can appeal as I was surprised and disappointed by his decision. I think the gloves really are off now and it seems that for each PR piece she puts out, BP, directly or indirectly are countering with very clear warning shots.

Hopefully the appeal will be upheld and we'll all find out a little more.I doubt it's just the Montecito Monster who will be feeling edgy right now.

I am throwing this with a disclaimer ( Any questions, verify with the original poster please!) however, I definitely read this on a site (Lipstick alley maybe?)in early May, but haven't been able to find it again. Fortuitously,I thought I'd give it one more go and this more recent post popped up. https://qr.ae/pGYCil

Clearly its supposition for the moment, and terribly, terribly sad if true. I do remember there being chit chat about the possibility of twins, although didn't take it seriously.

Given that no one has seen the baby yet and it has been said that there is no record of the monster giving birth at the Santa Barbara hospital ( Deja vue perhaps...) I wonder if this coincides with Harry being seen in a distressed state in a neighbours garden, as well as a reported estrangement between the monster and her mother, who apparantly packed and left. I can't remember the dates of either events, but suspect that they may coincide.....

I sincerely hope it's not true, but this appalling woman does seem to leave a trail of misery wherever she goes. True or not, I think, hope and pray that her goose really is cooked this time.
jessica said…
Considering The Queen is Warby’s boss, the appeal must be hefty.
KCM1212 said…
@Maneki

I missedvthat, Maneki. Thank you for the clarification.

@Tatty

Well, you are right in that the anonymous threat was not signed "the Sussex Squad", lol.

I was actually going by what Camilla herself claimed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CamillaTominey


https://www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk

I did not notice any denials by the squad, but I could have missed them.

I admit to flashing on what a mother might feel when reading such an email and reacting emotionally. It was particularly brutal, I thought.

@NeutralObserver
I so agree the tgreats are vile.
I hadnt seen ratings for the Me You Cannot See. Those are dismal!

@Puds
The trying to pay off that bloated mortgage just seems sad, doesnt it, Puds? And you are right. They would probably just see as their due.

@Miggy
Good idea! I am leaving that Cesspool behind!

Grisham said…
Oh, it could have been so someone from SS, sure especially if she says she has been harassed lately. I ldon’t know how to find the sussex hive but I have seem various amounts of women taking offense to her naming “the squad” as the sender of this….

But how would I know? I don’t know much about “the squad” and how the operate. I have heard people reference them.

I’m saying I saw people tagging her with emotional viewpoints on brexit and her “lies” about labor (whatever that means,.. I don’t follow brexit).

The grangle, it takes 5-6 weeks for parents to receive birth certificates in the us, pre Covid. It will probably take up to 12 weeks if they allow anyone to get uncertified copies, and I’m not sure just anyone can get one because they are curious.
Karla said…
Camilla Tominey... "We must call out online hate when we see it, which is why I am posting this death threat, sent to my website this morning in the name of #HarryandMeghan “fandom”. Never be cowed by these abject hypocrites. Fight for the right to disagree agreeably #stoponlinehate
Grisham said…
Oh, plenty of people are also mad at Camilla for calling Virginia, Andrew’s accused” a prostitute.

Seems Camilla is an equal opportunity offender 🤷🏼‍♀️
Hikari said…
@tatty

Oh, plenty of people are also mad at Camilla for calling Virginia, Andrew’s accused” a prostitute.

Jeffrey's girls were exploited because they were young and malleable but Virginia herself admitted to accepting up to $10,000 per engagement, along with first class travel, accommodation and designer fashions during the course of her employment with Epstein.

Sure beats the more typical teenage gig at Burger King, which is why I imagine these 'trafficked, terrified' girls found it hard to walk away from.
Maneki Neko said…
O/T

@WBBM

Interesting info about Thomas M's Dutch origins, I didn't know. Re Alsace, 'This territory was retroceded to France in 1919 after World War I, was ceded again to Germany in 1940 during World War II, and was again retroceded to France in 1945.' (Encyclopedia Britannica).
Its neighbour Lorraine suffered the same fate. @Although it was never formally annexed, Alsace-Lorraine was incorporated into the Greater German Reich, which had been restructured into Reichsgau. Alsace was merged with Baden, and Lorraine with the Saarland, to become part of a planned Westmark. During the war, 130,000 young men from Alsace and Lorraine were conscripted into the German armies against their will (malgré-nous). There were some volunteers for the Waffen SS.,[22] although they were outnumbered by conscripts of the 1926–1927 classes. Thirty of said Waffen SS were involved in the Oradour-sur-Glane massacre (29 conscripts, one volunteer).' (Wikipedia)
hunter said…
Hello Nutties -

Just to backtrack to the birth certificate issue - can someone please confirm my understanding?

So what you guys are saying is the "confirmation" that Diana Mary or Lilibet Diana M-B were "born" on that day/county is really a confirmation of the search you are officially ordering results for?

And therefor it will "confirm" any query for any name on any date in any county?

That was my understanding of the fallout, someone please confirm if I've got the basics right.
Maneki Neko said…
@NeutralObserver

Re the appeal by ANL, I am certainly no lawyer but I believe - and this is something @Opus may have mentioned - that an appeal is not usually granted unless there is a fair chance of success. I may be wrong.
Just thinking about Lacey's apparent volte-face, thanks to a large and delicious Lucozade & Tonic (!).

We received the impression that Netflix is `disappointed' with the Harkles and there is talk of them wanting their money back.

Could they have decided that the best way forward might be to be brutally truthful in The Crown - I'm sure someone will think there's more, and better, drama (and profit) in the real story than anything they could make up. Is Lacey thinking about his future scripts for them and changing his tune accordingly?

Bring it on, say !!
Ava C said…
Case tracker for civil cases:

Case
Reference: A3/2021/0609

Title: HRH THE DUCHESS OF SUSSEX v ASSOCIATED NEWSPAPERS LIMITED

Type: Appeal

Appeal / Application:
from the order of Lord Justice Warby (sitting as a High Court Judge)
High Court of Justice CHD Intellectual Property List dated 11-Feb-21
Hearing Status: Hear By 06-Jul-22

Venue: London

Constitution:
Not assigned
Not assigned
Not assigned

Case results:
Track Your Case:
Current Status: Case has become an Appeal

Tracking Information:
22-Jun-21: Application allowed on paper by Lord/Lady Justice
22-Jun-21: Case passed to List Office
22-Jun-21: Letter sent to applicant/solicitor to request bundles and/or documents
15-Jun-21: Application referred to Lord/Lady Justice

:-) !!!!
O/T

Maneki Neko:

Oradour-sur-Glane massacre was very nasty, have you looked it up?
SwampWoman said…
@Ava C, Montecito is going to have to use a stick to beat back the krakens soon.

/Didn't she make Harry sell some shotguns from his grandfather? Pity.
Ava C said…
@Swampwoman - I was thinking the same! He let go of those too soon ...
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said: Could they have decided that the best way forward might be to be brutally truthful in The Crown - I'm sure someone will think there's more, and better, drama (and profit) in the real story than anything they could make up. Is Lacey thinking about his future scripts for them and changing his tune accordingly?

Bring it on, say !!


There will certainly be a lot more drama with thrown hot tea, cursing at staff, merching, inflating/deflating baby bump, loud parties, loud fights, the crazy actions at the polo match, ignoring protocol, demanding equal everything to anything the future King and Queen of England receive, accepting blood diamonds, complaining about how she's too bored (or in need of drugs) to stay anywhere more than 15 minutes, creepy taking pictures of royal children, etc. Oh, I almost forgot "borrowing" from charities (allegedly).

Compared to THAT, somebody asking 6 whether he realizes that the baby will probably not be a pinkish baby but may be more tannish or cafe au lait would be no drama at all.
Hikari said…
Markle's PR machine is in overdrive today!

From my Yahoo News feed today:

1. "Prince William and Kate Middleton Refused to Speak to Harry at Prince Philip's Funeral"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-william-kate-middleton-reportedly-161652167.html

2. "Prince William May Have Stepped Back from Harry to Avoid Seeing Meghan"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-william-may-stepped-back-212612574.html

3. "Prince William Fell Out with Harry over Meghan Markle Bullying Allegations"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-william-fell-out-harry-meghan-bullying-accusations-171322945.html

4. James Corden: "Royal Life is Not Easy"
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/james-corden-prince-harrys-departure-131703642.html

5. "Prince Charles is Skipping This Huge Family Moment Just to Avoid Seeing Prince Harry"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-charles-skipping-huge-royal-171957105.html

6. This one is particularly heinous
"Prince Charles Was Secretly Questioned Over Diana's Scared Note: "My Husband is Planning to Kill Me."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-charles-secretly-questioned-over-160441471.html

7. "Prince Charles Refuses to See Harry"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-charles-allegedly-refusing-see-164100894.html

8. "Prince Charles Has Made It Quite Clear that He's Leaving Town During Prince Harry's Visit"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-charles-allegedly-refusing-see-164100894.html

9. "Brothers to Put on Carefully Choreographed Show of Unity at Diana's Statue Unveiling"
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/harry-william-put-carefully-choreographed-185200445.html

***********

That's just a taste. There are at least that many more I did not include. Some are well wishes for William's birthday and childhood pictures of him. Markle didn't pay for those.

The long-awaited statue unveiling is going to be overshadowed and ruined by this fracas created by Harry and Meghan. Things must be so tense at KP, which is just how the Harkles want it.
Grisham said…
Here, hunter.

Do Donald Trump Mountbatten-Windsor on 6/4/2021 in Los Angeles.
Grisham said…
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Ava C said…
As an ex-PA I keep thinking of Melissa Touabti and her colleagues. For a PA who takes pride in her work, discretion is more valuable than gold. If you're seen to break that trust, no matter how blameless you are and no matter what the provocation, your career and reputation will never fully recover. Melissa and her colleagues are firmly in M's sights and she intends to drag them through the dirt.

I read that ex-employees from the Sussex household are queuing up to give evidence, but I don't feel good about this. It's asking so much of them. There is the reputational risk and there is also the trauma. You can feel the hate and vindictiveness steaming off the page when you read messages from the Sussex camp, aimed at their victims. I only hope the Palace supports them to the max. They need to go above and beyond. These people deserve all the help they can get as they would be going over the top for all of us really. When we get down to it, they're our only hope of truly holding the Sussexes to account - in the eyes of the undecided majority - until William becomes king. No more pussyfooting around under King William V (assuming that's what his name will be).
hunter said…
100 years ago on page 1 Magatha asked me if PMK took my profile picture and I wanted to say yes, she told me I was doing “amazing.” ;D

SwampWoman – yesssssss, Netflix would profit more from the REAL story

Tatty – I am too lazy to follow links which require me to do work, a simple yes or no would suffice. I will take your posts in the affirmative.
Hikari said…
@Ava C

I read that ex-employees from the Sussex household are queuing up to give evidence, but I don't feel good about this. It's asking so much of them. There is the reputational risk and there is also the trauma. You can feel the hate and vindictiveness steaming off the page when you read messages from the Sussex camp, aimed at their victims. I only hope the Palace supports them to the max. They need to go above and beyond. These people deserve all the help they can get as they would be going over the top for all of us really. When we get down to it, they're our only hope of truly holding the Sussexes to account.

I truly feel for all the Palace staff who have had to cross paths with the malignant twosome. Having an ocean between themselves and Her might provide some relief but in a sense they will always be looking over their shoulders.

The more I read about narcissists (and I believe that She is a sociopath in addition), I see that she will never stop. As long as she's got breath in her body and can grift money from somewhere, she won't stop. Physical confrontations are unlikely but she will make it her mission in life to ruin the reputations and peace of mind of anyone she views as thwarting her.
Este said…
Lacey's book (cribbed from Lady C's or not) is ensuring Meghan's bullying investigation is blowing up. "Not up to the job" as a defense is just the way a workplace bully would rationalize their actions. And, it does nothing to make Meghan look innocent or likeable in the court of public opinion. At least 10 people are chomping at the bit to talk about Meghan's bullying and at least one going so far as to call her a narcissist and sociopath, tendencies long suspected here.

Lacey's book is also making William look silent, strong here and smart. Yeah, he had Meghan's number early on. She's that transparent. I wish we could go straight from the Queen to William. I just don't think Charles is capable, has enough of a back bone. Him running away from the Diana unveiling is really a dereliction of duty and it smells of desperation.

Anyway, Nutty was right to sniff the change in the media wind. The tide is turning on the Dastardly Duo.
Maneki Neko said…
O/T

@Wild Boar

Re Oradour-sur-Glane, I know the story very well. One of the most shameful episodes of the war. The French have not forgotten.
so 6 and 6w rejected "Earl of Dumbarton" for Archie because it contains the word "dumb" in it. But they are ok being the Duke and Duchess of SuckSex?
Maneki Neko said…
@AvaC said

I read that ex-employees from the Sussex household are queuing up to give evidence, but I don't feel good about this. It's asking so much of them. There is the reputational risk and there is also the trauma.
---------
AvaC, believe me, if you had been subjected to bullying you would want to give evidence. Not out of revenge but you would want to be believed, you would want to be vindicated, particularly if you're competent and your bully isn't. Sadly, I speak from experience.
I don't want to come across as patronising but it is very difficult to understand what it means to be bullied unless you've been through it.

Personally, I'm not sure where the reputational risk is, especially if the witnesses are anonymous.
Natalier said…
I do believe it is a HUGE deal that the ANL has been allowed to appeal.

I compare this to the Johnny Depp/The Sun case where the judge relied on the "fact" that Amber Heard donated her entire divorce money to charity, hence she could not be a liar and there was no ulterior motive to all her actions (Depp's lawyer said she had an ulterior motive for the marriage - $$$$$). When Depp's lawyers were allowed to present their case for an appeal, they brought evidences that Heard had lied and that CHLA and ACLU had not received the claimed donations, the new judges agreed that there was no donations indeed. However, they did not allow for an Appeal as there was no technicalies in the case. The judgement really stumped many of us but it just reflects on how difficult it is to get an appeal - be it fair or not.

So yes, I am very happy that ANL is now at this stage and I hope they make a robust case against her with good, reliable witnesses.
Natalier said…
It is absolutely disgusting, the threat on Camilla Tominey. She is a journalist doing her job. These scums threatening her family - I hope the police investigates and whoever made that awful threat is caught, publicized and thrown behind bars.
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