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Open Post: What more from the Sussexes?

The Sussex camp has been quiet since Princess Diana's Statue Unveiling but I don't think we can expect that to continue. Is there anything left to keep them in the limelight? Let's discuss...

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Este said…
Although I hate to bring up Lainey because she's been team Sussex from day one to exclusion of any semblance of fairness and most particularly because she's a prime player in the woke politics which I find so divisive and destructive. I think my biggest issue with woke politics is how little facts matter. If you check off the right boxes (for today and hope you don't get cancelled tomorrow) then you become the authority regardless of your circumstances and whether what you're alleging squares with facts. And the Oprah interview didn't square with facts and was clearly a revenge and smear tactic over not getting what they want, nor dealing honestly with Meghan's terrible treatment of staff from early on.

So getting back to Lainey, she long accused the RF of being "cruel" to the Sussexes over pretty much everything, when the RF was forced to respond to their demands and their tactics. That was her "go to" reaction to every reaction the Sussex betrayal against Harry's family. But "cruel" is an apt description of their behavior to the Queen in doing the Oprah interview of many lies and misstatements, and doing this while her husband was dying; in naming their girl her private nickname for the express purpose of thumbing their nose at the Queen. When the girl is being good, she's "Lili." When she's misbehaving she's "Lillibet" which turns the Queen's private pet name into a slur and term of abuse. Only a fool would believe the daughter was named as any tribute or respect for the Queen. Cruel, non? And let's not forget they smeared the Queen and her entire family as racists and abusers on a "genetic level." If that's not insulting and cruel enough they now are trying to demand that Lillibet be christened at Windsor palace AND in front of the Queen. I can only hope the Queen responds to this like I would, "yeah that's not gonna happen." Yeah, I can't see the Queen saying that either but I hope she doesn't participate in this debacle.

The only thing the Sussexes have left is to garner interest is snubbing the Royal Family. Even with world opening up again, these two are STILL minor players who only make the press by throwing rocks at the Firm. The Emmys are like the Oscars are now...irrelevant and Netflix has lots of cr*p out there. The animated show will just be more flotsam on the airwaves. These two have no star power on their own. If they had it, they'd be flexing it right now. People watch them like they watch a car crash but even that gets old.
Maneki Neko said…

@Enbrethiliel and @Elsbeth1847

Re the tone of the article on the christening at Windsor with the Queen in attendance, I was shocked by it too and put 'want' in italics when I copied the headline in a post up thread. Talk about being entitled. Click your fingers and the Queen will attend...

The Star says 'The Queen has been urged to arrange a baptism for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s daughter to help ease royal tensions.' So now it's down to the Queen to arrange a christening? Also, the 6s have reportedly already introduced Lilibet to the Queen during a video call, but it is not yet clear where they plan to baptise her. Is this like the Queen baking her a birthday cake, Kate throwing her a baby shower etc?

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Re the Netflix series, no doubt another roaring success, the DM has this headline:

Meghan Markle 'started working on her animated Netflix series with David Furnish BEFORE Megxit after holding talks with streaming giant while still a senior member of royal family'

So it seems to have been confirmed.
Karla said…
Ester.. Excellent! I agree with everything.👏👏👏
LavenderLady said…
@Karla,
Just a some thoughts generated by the links:

If TBW was Jewish her surname would be MarkEL not Markle. Thomas Markle's wiki page states the name was originally Merckel (note the el for Elohim, so maybe?), though Jewish names are changed regularly, to this day, and understandably so.

Markel is high German. Markle is Scots Irish. Thomas's family names are mostly English. Smith, Sanders, Hussey.

I know nothing about Doria.

If it benefits TBW in position and/or money, she will become anyone and anything...chameleon extraordinaire...
LavenderLady said…
Not to belabor the point, but if anyone is interested. Long link, great database for Jewish surnames:

https://dbs.anumuseum.org.il/skn/en/c6/e18493715/%D7%90%D7%95%D7%93%D7%95%D7%AA/About_the_Memi_De_Shalit_Database_of_Jewish_Family?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=jewish%20surnames&utm_campaign=g&device=c&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpiwO-11nXeZwLZ-jFfulYvS7C4mxnUILz9rfLOJrcVhcSZsHYHeapYaArXTEALw_wcB
Martha said…
Este...agree with every word.
Karla said…
LL...I said MM might have been converted. I never said that MM is Jewish by birth. If yes, your last name would be Engelson's husband. (I think) Nor have I ever heard that Thomas Markle was a Jew.
Snarkyatherbest said…
interesting the Pearl thing was in the works pre-megxit. that was over two years ago. you would think they could have acted on it sooner. already hired animators, writers. they should have been able to put a pilot in the can by now. a lot of that could have been soon remotely. the writing and the. animating is usually done overseas.
Portcitylass said…
Mr. PC and I both have Jewish ancestry and keep a beautiful inherited antique menorah in our dining room, but we are practicing Christians. Jewish ppl are always ethnically Jewish whether Christian, Atheist, etc. Most of our Jewish friends are secular and celebrate Christmas just not as Christians. We have a Jewish guy friend whose spouse ( former Catholic ) converted and they have 3 kids who are Jewish and they all attend Temple. We are friends with a Muslim guy whose spouse is Christian, both secular. He identifies with us more as a Middle Eastern er than any religious faction. All of us practice some tenets of our religion and certain customs of the others. Such as, MPC and I, plus his family, try to keep kosher. Our Muslim guy friend celebrates Christmas with his Christian wife and they both abstain from alcohol as most Muslims do. Having said this, I can say that Jewish ppls have Jewish blood. Our last name is Jewish as well. Spouses who convert are practicing Jews, but not ethnic Jews. Trevor is an ethnic Jew if the articles about him are to be believed. If he and MM had had children they would be Jewish even if not raised in Temple. Ivanka Trump converted and is raising her kids in Temple. They will always be Jewish though no matter what. She is only a converted Jew and it is seen as different because she was not born to a Jewish parent, I believe. We are in a club with Muslim and Christian Lebanese, Palestinians, and Syrians. All are faithful to practice their religion and there is the knowledge that each looks down on the other for their beliefs although not spoken.
Our secular group identifies with our group as Lebanese, ME, Mediterranean, etc., much more relaxed group. Lol. Also, meaning no disrespect to the others, that's just how it is. My other gf s who come over for the first time look agog at us when they see the big old menorah and usually whisper, which one of you is Jewish? In which case, we point to each other and say him/ her. Lol. It is a mixed world. One of my best gf s is Greek married to an Hispanic man (super beautiful couple plus their kids) and many ppl don't know her husband is Hispanic and it really annoys her when anyone says anything derogatory about Hispanics although they both are appalled at the open borders and criminal gangs pouring over.

Anyhow, imo, based on my life circumstances, Trevor and MM didn't seem too focused on Judaism and I doubt she converted. Just my opinion though.

Also, I think it's hilarious that H and M are telling the Queen what to do regarding Lil. I mean the tabloids telling the Queen what to do.😂
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I always understood that the mother had to be Jewish for a child of a mixed marriage to be considered so - if only the father was Jewish, the child was not.

The reason was fairly straight forward if you think about it- it ensures that if a child of a mixed union is left alone with its mother, it would have the faith of the community it was brought up in, either way. As far as I'm aware, Doria didn't have a Jewish mother.

Usually, parents who share a faith want to bring up their children in their faith - but hey! the the Harkles always try to buck the system. I wouldn't be surprised if they refuse to get her `done' unless it's with all their conditions met.

They might be banking on HM not wanting her gt.grandchildren to remain unbaptised. It's surprising that Wonder Boy Archie wasn't left to decide for himself - or was he?
Didn't MM claim to be of Sephardic origin at various times during her acting career, along with being Maltese?
DesignDoctor said…
@HappyDays

Thanks for the Cindy Adams article. She certainly has a way with words!
Portcitylass said…
WBBM

It used to be that way. Same if your dad was Muslim, children were Muslim.
Now not so much. My Jewish guy friend married to a secular Christian woman doesn't differentiate. I think it's in the same vein as ppl saying if a white person has a drop of ethnic blood they're ethnic. Kinda old timey Imho. Also, that way was used to be discriminatory as well. Now ppl are proud of their ethnic heritage whereas before they may have feared discrimination.
LavenderLady said…
@Karla said,
LL...I said MM might have been converted. I never said that MM is Jewish by birth. If yes, your last name would be Engelson's husband. (I think) Nor have I ever heard that Thomas Markle was a Jew.
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To clarify, I used the word IF (MM was Jewish) to connote that we are speculating, not that YOU said she is Jewish.

Apologies for the misunderstanding.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Portcitylass
Also, I think it's hilarious that H and M are telling the Queen what to do regarding Lil. I mean the tabloids telling the Queen what to do.

They're obviously fed up with her, but are under some obligation to keep writing about her.

Soon after the engagement interview, word got out that she had contracted a PR firm to make sure there were three articles about her every day. Imagine the poor staff writers getting that task delegated to them. Well, one of them has apparently shrugged his shoulders and told it as it is. The Harkles want. Good luck to them getting it.
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM said,
I always understood that the mother had to be Jewish for a child of a mixed marriage to be considered so - if only the father was Jewish, the child was not.

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As I mentioned up thread, this was generally the case in orthodox Judaism, including the ULTRA orthodox Jews, the Hassidim.

In Reformed Judaism, this is not adhered to.

I did look up Doria's wiki page. Her family's given names are German English ie: Arnold, and English ie: Ragland. Of course these are not ancestral names but given.
Karla said…
LL...Yes! We are speculating. ❤️And that made me laugh here. "We and the entire media..." Lol
LavenderLady said…
@PortCityLass,
My children are half ethnic Jews and not practicing but still count their Jewish heritage.

They are also much to my horror (which I don't divulge to them) atheists. I say this because I grew up in a sound faith and have been in and out of churches all my life. I also practice Native spirituality.

I'm not fearful that they will "die and go to hell". No. I am sad that they do not experience the deep spiritual wells that I have, which sustain me in troubled times. These tumultuous times they are living in, in their youth, are very scary!

I did raise them to be free thinkers so I am the one that precipitated their atheism.

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Cue the rebuttals from atheists. Sigh...
I was referring to the situation in London, almost 50 years ago, so thank you for updating me. I always got the impression that Liberalism was further along the its course in the Us the in UK.
LavenderLady said…
@Karla,
Lol. I almost posted that same thought, but knew someone would.

Narcs like TBW thrive on people speculating about them. They create the speculations. Good or bad, as long as they are getting attention...

I suppose this is why I don't do "sleuthing" about her. Because I really don't care. Just want the Kraken tea! And a place to bitch about her. She pisses me off big time but *here in the States* for the most part, she's a nothing burger. If you talk about her, people think you're a looney :D

*Apologies in advance, I don't know where you hail from.
Portcitylass said…
LL,

OT

I was sound in my faith until I studied religion in college. I struggle daily and my only child is secular as well although raised in the Christian faith. It finally dawned on me that my parents are new age Christians although both were brought up in high church. My husband is Orthodox so I have become more so for the last decade of my life. He is deeply devout which gets me into a whole lot of trouble with my potty mouth which some may have experienced here, my apologies😁 He is very steadfast in his Christian belief and I must admit I am envious as I am a doubting Thomas.
From observation it would seem there are a lot of Jewish atheists. I might be one if it were not for my husband😄
LavenderLady said…
@WBBM,
There are people in my city that are ethnically and fully Jewish in family background and synagogue yet are practicing Buddhists, Sihks, Rastafari, born again Christians (Messianic Jews, Jews for Jesus), Mormons, atheists etc. No one cares.

The US has been called a melting pot. But some areas not so much.

Story: I was in homes in Orange country in Portadown NI. I was looked at side eyed. But the more we visited we found common ground. Thankfully I was accompanied by Quakers! Otherwise, I would have ran like hell lol.
PS the last 4 words of my last post should read `US than in UK'.
LavenderLady said…
@PortCityLass,
I too lost my religion when taking grad courses in Religious Studies. It's not hard to do when you come from orthodoxy in the formative years and are faced with historical evidence, or lack of...

This is why I am very careful when discussing theological findings with staunch Christians. Some facts could create a spiritual crisis for them and new believers.

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Sorry Nutties. Back on topic.
xxxxx said…
Puds said...
Royal Windsor Baptism with the Queens presence demanded...... 11.6k pretty furious folk are telling the HAMs where to go jump and into what.
One DM commenter said so they will turn up with Oprah Winfrey in tow as Godparent?


The Oprah line had me laughing. O could have a tête-à-tête with The Queen after baptism. David Furnish should come too as God parent.
Miggy said…
TALK OF THE TOWN: It's all a bit flash, Harry! The Prince is making use of an ultra-exclusive private airport service.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9798237/TALK-TOWN-Prince-Harry-making-use-ultra-exclusive-private-airport-service.html

Snippet:

Perhaps Harry is learning that life without plodding Met Police protection officers is much more flashy – after all, PS guards have black wraparound glasses and conspicuous earpieces.

But then Harry is in a whole new world now. One of my LA sources describes him as a 'baller' – slang for those with great wealth who don't mind spending it.

She says he runs with a non-famous crowd of tech billionaires. 'He's not in with the showbiz lot as people would expect.

'Rather than spending time with Adele or James Corden, Harry and Meghan are hanging with the LA rich set: owners of big companies, jet-set types with private planes.

'He spends time in Malibu, Montecito and Beverly Hills.

'Harry seems really relaxed being the star in the room. He's usually the only famous person at the parties he goes to, and it seems to suit him that he's the one everyone flocks to.'
SirStinxAlot said…
@Miggy...

😄😆🤣😂😄😆🤣😂🤪😜🤮
Portcitylass said…
"She says he runs with a non-famous crowd of tech billionaires. He's not in with the showbiz lot as people would expect."

Perhaps the same tech ppl who deplatformed Donald Trump. Interesting. Maybe this is why he had such a big grin on his face this last go round. Now. If we connect the dots and figure out who these tech guys back then we may have the answers we have all been seeking.
Hikari said…
More horse manure from the Sussex canp. Hanging with LAs ultra rich made me laugh until my sides hurt. Nobody wants to hang out with these two losers who are only going to be scrounging for handouts. The disastrous duo has absolutely nothing huge big fat goose egg zero to offer in any company, and particularly LAs ultra rich. More fantasy games from Harry’s wife. The both of them together create a gigantic black suck hole of nothingness. This is her pathetic attempt to make their stunted Montecito experiment look way more fabulous as William and Catherine’s. This has put a smile on my face today.
KCM1212 said…
@miggy

Thanks for the laugh! That was the most egregious example of self-aggrandizement I have ever read.

I wonder who could have written it?
Fifi LaRue said…
@miggy: What a hoot!

Straight from the a$$ of the horse called TBW.

She's getting desperate.

Desperate for attention.
Desperate for money.
Desperate for validation.
Desperate for publicity.
Desperate for more money.
Desperate for a richer husband.
Desperate for a "Look at Me Now," towards her former family and friends.
HappyDays said…
Hi All,
Keep in mind that as a narcissist, Meghan is an ultimate schemer, who like a shark, is always on the prowl for her next victim. And what better hunting grounds than nerdy tech guys with oodles of money, which brings to mind this nugget from about a month ago on the Blind Gossip site. The Talk of the Town column leads me to think Meghan is using Harry as an entrée for herself to shop for husband number three — or four — depending on who you believe.

Here’s a blast from the recent past from Blind Gossip:

https://blindgossip.com/her-brilliant-plan/

Her Brilliant Plan
JUNE 15, 2021 BLIND GOSSIP

Come sit on the bench next to BG and we will tell you an interesting story about two famous couples!

Actress and Baldy have been married for just a few years.

Brilliant and Mrs. Brilliant have been married for many years.

We knew that Brill had cheated on Mrs. Brill, but that behavior had been going on for a long time. Mrs. Brill is not naive, so the fact that she had stuck by Brill all these years implied that she had resigned herself to a lifetime of tremendous wealth but not-so-tremendous fidelity.

Because the infidelity was not public knowledge, the news that The Brilliants were splitting up probably came as a bit of a surprise to you.

It did not come as a surprise to Actress.

Apparently, Actress had been tipped off by another wealthy person several months before that The Brill’s marriage was in trouble.

[Actress] tried to arrange a meeting.

What kind of meeting?

A meeting about charity.

You see, Brill and Mrs. Brill are prominent philanthropists and involved in many charities.

Actress and Baldy are wannabe philanthropists. They are younger than The Brilliants and have more fame than money, so their version of philanthropy involves jumping from one charitable cause to another to keep themselves in the headlines.

It seems that Actress wanted to arrange a meeting to talk about how she and Baldy could support one of The Brill’s causes.

It didn’t matter that Actress and Baldy had never even mentioned this cause before. Suddenly, this cause was one that Actress really cared about.

The logistics were even more interesting.

[Actress] wanted to meet in person and was willing to jump on a plane if [Brill] himself was going to be at the meeting.

Given that Actress and Baldy had made a rather public point about not traveling to see Baldy’s family, her willingness to fly clearly demonstrates her tremendous commitment to this cause.

The dates that she proposed were dates that [Baldy] might be unable to attend because of other commitments.

So rather than couple meeting couple, this could have been a scenario where Actress met with Brill without either of their spouses present.

Why was Actress so keen to meet Brill?

Was she that devoted to Brill’s cause? Did she want to hand Brill a check in person? Was she hoping that Brill would, in turn, financially support one of her causes?

Was she trying to wrangle an invitation for her and her husband to play with Brill on his yacht this summer? Did she see Brill as a gateway to other important one percenters?

Or did she think that the soon-to-be-single Brill would meet her in person and be swept away by her beauty, charm, intelligence and passion for the same causes as him?

We hear that Actress did not get that meeting. To stay in Brill’s good graces, though, she did do some high-profile work for the cause.

Of course, Actress had nothing to do with the breakup of Brill’s marriage. We just find it very coincidental that she suddenly took an interest in one of Brill’s causes when she found out that his marriage was in trouble and thought it was important to meet with him in person.

It will be interesting to see if Actress is able to arrange a meeting with Brill at some point in the future.

With or without Baldy.

[Optional] Why do you think Actress wants to meet with Brill?
June 16, 2021 at 4:48 AM
Miz Malaprop said…
Perhaps they are hanging with the people that describe themselves as the ultra-rich/jet set .... much like Dodi Fayed was described as a "movie producer."
At a really dull, money-centric, uber exclusive dinner party, ol' Hapless might be the most interesting person in the room. The internet has created a mass of wealthy, 30-something, computer savants & hedge fund managers that will throw a hundred grand $$ towards a cause, as they need tax write-offs

Much like the Duke & Duchess of Windsor, they're on the hunt for "donations." Or how did Cindy Adams put it, "financial betterment." At least the Windsors had the dignity to not feign "compassion" on behalf of humanity, but didn't seem happy.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/96/b0/77/96b077953ccb6d834b6cd9cc9bd70277--wallis-simpson-edward-viii.jpg

Compared to HM & PP

https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/cts-assets/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/04115319/featured_5_3-t.jpg

Maneki Neko said…
@Miggy

Thanks for the info about 6. Pathetic! This smacks of desperation.


@KCM1212 said

I wonder who could have written it?

The writer of that article is Charlotte Griffiths who write the MoS celebrity section ('diary editor'). I wonder who her LA source is who came up with that tripe.


@Fifi

TBW does sound desperate but the article mentions 6, except for a line that mentions both 6s. Is she trying to propel 6 into the world of tech billionaires in order to insert herself (slither in is a better word) into their world?
I concur with @HappyDays, she's "using Harry as an entrée for herself to shop for husband number three — or four" (4, I'd say). Problem is, there aren't that many famous tech billionaires on the market and I don't think any of them would touch TBW with a barge pole. She's soiled goods.
New Lady C, up yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7HInz23fjo

I'll watch it later
Portcitylass said…
Hikari said

The disastrous duo has absolutely nothing huge big fat goose egg zero to offer in any company, and particularly LAs ultra rich.

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I disagree. All of these ppl are anti-Monarchy and would love to see it destroyed along with the native ppls of Great Britain. To that end, they and H seemingly have the same goal.
Miggy said…
Hey, I've found a billionaire for TBW. 😏

Billionaire Ethereum co-founder says he is quitting the world of cryptocurrency due to personal safety concerns.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9799861/Ethereum-founder-says-quitting-world-cryptocurrency-safety-concerns.html
CookieShark said…
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Sadly, Portcitylass, I, too,fear that something like that may be behind it all.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Miggy

Oh, that's hilarious!

She says he runs with a non-famous crowd of tech billionaires.

So they're nobody we'd know? What a safe assertion to make then.

'He's not in with the showbiz lot as people would expect.

Oh, we know he's not in with the showbiz lot. In fact, we've known it for a while.

Harry seems really relaxed being the star in the room. He's usually the only famous person at the parties he goes to, and it seems to suit him that he's the one everyone flocks to.

Okay, I'm officially dead.

I guess it's clear what the new Harkle strategy is. They can no longer put out stories about the BRF, because those will be debunked faster than you can roast a chicken. And there are no more flashy friends in the entertainment business who will give them the time of day. (David Furnish surprised me, but I suppose the poor dope signed a contract and can't get out of it.) But the tech world is, apart from a few big names, relatively unknown by outsiders; the Harkles can make all sorts of claims for months before it becomes obvious they're lying.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Only star in the room?

Well, except around his family, he doesn't appear to visit a lot of European royalty, he probably was that already most of the time.
Following on from Portcitylass's comment-

Some time ago, IIRC, I asked if anyone here had read Robert Harris's political thriller, The Ghost' (2007)?

See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_(novel).

It gives no spoilers so I'm afraid you'll have to read it.

The narrative offered an analysis (fictional of course) of what had been going on, something with echoes of the current situation in terms of permanentlychanging British society by devious means for person and political reasons.

At the time, the ending of the book gave me the chills - it echoed thoughts which had already crossed my mind, involving unannounced changes in government policy with regard to population structure and voting patterns (I hesitate to say more).

My existing thoughts about the state of Britain had been,

`Anybody would think...? Surely not....?`

After reading it, I felt sick. I had no satisfaction in learning I wasn't the only person to see it that way. It just confirmed my fears which I had previously dismissed as paranoid. It's one of those topics that one only mentions behind closed doors, with people one trusts, lest one is branded.

This quotation from Wikipedia seems very near the mark:

The New York Observer, headlining its otherwise hostile review The Blair Snitch Project, commented that the book's "shock-horror revelation" was "so shocking it simply can't be true, though if it were it would certainly explain pretty much everything about the recent history of Great Britain."
Portcitygirl said…
The RF know they are in danger and could very well be deplatformed. ALL world leaders and ppl are at the mercy of tech. So who tech backs wins the game, period. The peasants watching and making them rich while using their services matter not. Tech has all the power. Donald Trump has learned this the hard way, his predicament not having gone unnoticed by those at the top not willing to play ball. Unfortunately for the RF, Tech is not pro Monarchy, nor are they only interested in RF money.
Fifi LaRue said…
So, Harry's a laissez-faire, relaxed man-about-town, a comfortable and easy going raconteur (the shining star!!) among the serious and staid tech billionaires in their private clubs. Oh, how they must all love it when Harry shows up, and relieves them all of their boring thoughts and boring lives with his wit! intelligence! charm! charisma! Did we mention genius level intelligence? Yes, he is a baller alright. Loose with his money, loose with his charms, loose with his brains.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Maneki Neko
@Fifi
@HappyDays

Re: Harry's wife hoping to trade up and become some "non-famous tech billionaire's" wife

Last year I shared Anna Bey's video on the different types of rich wealthy men there are out there. She said that while some rich men are attracted to flashy women, tech millionaires/billionaires prefer a woman who's a little bit plainer and a girl next door. If we see Harry's wife repeating her "California casual" look from the Duck Rabbit video, we'll know what's up.
Enbrethiliel said…
I'm listening to River's latest video now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCF3GqW0GFY

River says that not only will Prince Charles absolutely honor his parents' wish for Prince Edward to be the next Duke of Edinburgh, he also wouldn't mind doing it right now.

So, yes, we can chalk up last week's rumors to Harkle propaganda. I'm ashamed I believed them for even one second. So they're going after Charles now, are they? Will they try to claim, later on, that Charles gave Edward the dukedom only because he was shamed into doing so by the reaction to the rumors in the press? Such dirty tactics . . .

River's analysis of Prince Charles's "diva" character is also worth listening to. It's sympathetic and insightful. And it makes me wonder why Palace PR isn't taking this tack. Last week, I mused that Charles has been seen as petty, jealous, and resentful since the 1980s -- first toward Diana and then toward Prince William. This lingering perception of him is what made the Duke of Edinburgh rumors even halfway credible. But if it's a twisting of his actual character, it should have been addressed decades ago. Yes, I get that "never complain, never explain" used to be the rule of the day; but along with its good fruits, it has had some bad fruits. And all the undeserved bad PR Prince Charles is getting is bad fruit that he can't afford to keep flourishing now that his reign draws closer than ever before.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Portcitygirl
The RF know they are in danger and could very well be deplatformed. ALL world leaders and ppl are at the mercy of tech. So who tech backs wins the game, period.

This is an interesting angle, though I don't know if Harry's wife is intelligent enough to have considered it.

If you were advising a royal family that wants to stay relevant for many years to come, what concrete steps in the tech arena would you advise them to take?
SirStinxAlot said…
@E
Re: Harry's wife hoping to trade up and become some "non-famous tech billionaire's" wife

Last year I shared Anna Bey's video on the different types of rich wealthy men there are out there. She said that while some rich men are attracted to flashy women, tech millionaires/billionaires prefer a woman who's a little bit plainer and a girl next door. If we see Harry's wife repeating her "California casual" look from the Duck Rabbit video, we'll know what's up.

July 18, 2021 at 10:50 PM

She will never give up on being "famous". She would fight tooth and nail to keep the Duchess title to merch off. If the RF tried to rescind it during a divorce, Fergie and Diana would be used as examples. Even though M is not British. Que more racist accusations.
The only thing a tech billionaire would bring is a new checkbook to spend on clothes, vacations, vanity projects, and PR. Now that shes tasted the limelight, shes addicted. H must be running out of funds since there are even fewer articles about her everyday now than a year ago or 2 years ago.
Karla said…
WBBM... I'm sorry that Charles had to go through this at such a special time for him. The pain of Meghan's betrayal is painful, but Harry, in my opinion, is unforgivable. Diana threw Charles under a bus, but H&M want to throw everyone and the Monarchy.
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"When Edward wed the Countess of Wessex, then Sophie Rhys-Jones, back in 1999, the Queen granted him the title of the Earl of Wessex. Buckingham Palace added in a statement at the time that ‘The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the Prince of Wales have also agreed that the Prince Edward should be given the Dukedom of Edinburgh in due course, when the present title held now by Prince Philip eventually reverts to the Crown.
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Dickie Arbiter on twiitter
"That Prince Edward will become The Duke of Edinburgh in the next reign was his father's and is his mother's wishes and Prince Charles won't go against those. It won't happen immediately but by 2029, when Edwards turns 65, it will. Time for speculation, without substance, to cease".
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Victoria Arbiter on twitter
"Finding the Prince Charles/Duke of Edinburgh title debate highly speculative. So far there's very little evidence to support the claim. Charles wouldn't go against the wishes of his parents, nor would he be discussing the topic while his mother is still alive".
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The day before the wedding, King George VI bestowed the style of Royal Highness on Philip and, on the morning of the wedding, 20 November 1947, he was made the Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, and Baron Greenwich of Greenwich in the County of London.
Queen Elizabeth is the widow of the Duke of Edinburgh.The title of Duke of Edinburgh is part of her life, personal history and reign. She will be buried alongside the Duke of Edinburgh, her husband and consort. Another Duke of Edinburgh, just in another reign. And Charles will keep his promise. Giving Edward the title, I think, does not interfere with a lean monarchy, as Harry and Meghan have their titles and are not working senior members of the royal family.
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SS...I agree With you.
HappyDays said…
SirStinxAlot said…
She will never give up on being "famous". She would fight tooth and nail to keep the Duchess title to merch off. If the RF tried to rescind it during a divorce, Fergie and Diana would be used as examples. Even though M is not British. Que more racist accusations.

@SirStinxAlot: The one biggie that you may have overlooked is that both Diana and Fergie were/are citizens of the UK. Meghan is not a citizen of the UK and she has not made any moves to go through the process to become a British citizen, which means she would have to renounce her US citizenship.

I think not her lack of citizenship might be an excellent reason for the royal family to take all of her titles if she and Harry eventually divorce.

It would actually be to Meghan’s advantage if Harry dies during the course of their marriage, which has been discussed here in the past. Some nutties have observed that if Harry obtained tainted drugs that caused a fatal overdose, Meghan could spend the rest of her life wallowing in victimhood while proclaiming her “love” of Harry as what would amount to a career as a professional widow, while continuing to milk her titles for every dollar she can wring out of them as she bangs every wealthy man she can manage to hook up with.

Even if they could still remove her titles as a widow, Meghan’s team at Sunshine Sachs would make the royal family out as racist meanies, and turn it into a public relations nightmare for the monarchy.

And the problem is that because narcissists only view people as objects to be used and discarded when no longer useful, I’d be seriously concerned that Meghan might encourage Harry to use illegal drugs, especially if/when the marriage hits the skids. The big problem with many drugs in the US is that they are now often laced with Fentanyl, and this drug is so potent that an amount the size of three grains of sand is enough to kill an adult. Harry could reach a point where could be worth more dead than alive to Meghan.

My thinking is that if it is not already happening, the Sussex marriage will break up due to extreme financial problems. News article and opinion pieces have already started to observe that the Sussexes need to come up with some projects that generate cash for the companies they have contracts with because after a year with Netflix and Spotify, they have produced little for either company.

The Sussex overhead must be huge, (a recent New Zealand Herald article said the cost of their Montecito home alone has been estimated at $6.2 million a year) and not everything can be written off on their taxes and if they end up in a financial ditch, it is unlikely the royal family will toss them a financial life ring. The royal family might not have the money to help Harry and Meghan if they end up deeply in debt due to a lavish lifestyle and bad business decisions.

As I said earlier, professional widowhood might some day start looking good to Meghan. I believe her to be so diabolical that I put nothing past her to keep her royal titles.


Portcitylass said…
Enbreth said,

If you were advising a royal family that wants to stay relevant for many years to come, what concrete steps in the tech arena would you advise them to take?

***********

PW has already implored Tech to censor all bullying and he got nowhere. And even with all DT's money even he hasn't been able to fight back against this. So a future King and US President had no influence whatsoever.

So, what would I suggest as fantasy? If I were world leaders I would break up these big tech guys and levy huge fines on unfair censorship and deplatforming. Unfortunately, the guys behind the curtain own the money and the media and the govts. The mostly European Monarchies are mostly white families and white is bad. Even if just middle class in the US... bad. So unless some entity can put this evil genie that all media is pushing back in the bottle then only prayer will work. The one thing the British Monarchy can do though is to cut 6 off with out a dime forever.

So, the situation is grim, but it is grim for all of us right now. The Queen still has the love and admiration of the majority of her subjects and the world and it is my hope that GB will see the value the Monarch offers their country and certainly shouldn't be replaced with hollow come and go useless politicians like the US has. Perhaps the world will grow tired of these dire circumstances and the pendulum will swing. Pride in one's country may prevail. Ppl are sick of the race wars and division in their countries and are pushing back. Maybe the Monarchs of Europe should join in and push back as well. Their ppl would rejoice and who cares what the global media tech thinks.
lizzie said…
@HappyDays wrote:

"@SirStinxAlot: The one biggie that you may have overlooked is that both Diana and Fergie were/are citizens of the UK. Meghan is not a citizen of the UK and she has not made any moves to go through the process to become a British citizen, which means she would have to renounce her US citizenship."

While you could be right that M's lack of UK citizenship could make a difference re: titles, I am pretty sure you are wrong about her need to renounce US citizenship. The UK and US both allow dual citizenship. Autumn Phillips became a UK citizen but she retained her Canadian citizenship, for example. And even if M WAS required to renounce, she couldn't do that before acquiring UK citizenship as one can't be "stateless."

I'm not sure how strong the argument would be about title stripping and divorce. Seems to me there was a stronger argument to be made for not awarding the title to a non-citizen to begin with than there is for stripping a title that wouldn't be stripped from a divorced citizen. But regardless, M never was going to have to give up her US citizenship.
Karla said…
Happy Days... Thank you for the information.❤️
...
"Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have lost $22 million since leaving the royal family"
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-have-lost-22-million-since-leaving-the-royal-family/news-story/0f36f097d7d6745d95a29d3caa7a313f
LavenderLady said…
@Portcitylass said,

PW has already implored Tech to censor all bullying and he got nowhere. And even with all DT's money even he hasn't been able to fight back against this. So a future King and US President had no influence whatsoever.

So, what would I suggest as fantasy? If I were world leaders I would break up these big tech guys and levy huge fines on unfair censorship and deplatforming. Unfortunately, the guys behind the curtain own the money and the media and the govts. The mostly European Monarchies are mostly white families and white is bad. Even if just middle class in the US... bad. So unless some entity can put this evil genie that all media is pushing back in the bottle then only prayer will work. The one thing the British Monarchy can do though is to cut 6 off with out a dime forever.

So, the situation is grim, but it is grim for all of us right now. The Queen still has the love and admiration of the majority of her subjects and the world and it is my hope that GB will see the value the Monarch offers their country and certainly shouldn't be replaced with hollow come and go useless politicians like the US has. Perhaps the world will grow tired of these dire circumstances and the pendulum will swing. Pride in one's country may prevail. Ppl are sick of the race wars and division in their countries and are pushing back. Maybe the Monarchs of Europe should join in and push back as well. Their ppl would rejoice and who cares what the global media tech thinks.

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Wow. All of this! A very brave analysis. Not to get political but I have recently been reading up on the Bolshevik revolution and Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution. The similarities of what we are experiencing are frightening. The big difference is that now the reaches are global...

As far as the BRF goes, yes now they have many admirers and subjects however, it's very clear to me the tight rope they are walking. PW is facing a massive challenge to keep the lid on the box; meaning to maneuver through the social ills you mention in your comment above with strength and courage. Not only will he face keeping his family firmly in place as far as position in the future of the UK, but to also be the model of pragmatism, and wisdom throughout these very challenging times-which are here to stay for awhile! As a constitutional monarch, his authority will be limited, therefore he must always appear to hold the line tight but not too tight. A fine line indeed. I am an admirer of PC but I'm not so sure he is up to the task. Sometimes he appears to be more in his dotage than HM.

This is why TBW and her idiot husband are a danger. Some have compared her to Grigori Rasputin and yes she is of the character he possessed. The difference is he was a man; one who didn't fail initially at his goal. He wormed his way in to the palace, had the ear of the Tzarina, then the Tzar, became arrogant and depraved, yet held a powerful notoriety over the people. Until his mistakes no longer could be overlooked. He became glaring and after several failed attempts, was successfully removed.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are the match that can ignite the entire powder keg...
Fifi LaRue said…
TBW will never give up being famous. Never. Future husband forewarned.
Maisie said…
Somewhat OT:
James Bond in Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) writers had an inkling of how much damage a wealthy psychopathic media mogul could wreck, though perhaps not imagining the predicament we might soon find ourselves in. (I wonder about facial recognition and social credits and read that if someone is considered a problematic individual in China, the ability to purchase tickets to travel is restricted.)
HappyDays said…
lizzie said…

I'm not sure how strong the argument would be about title stripping and divorce. Seems to me there was a stronger argument to be made for not awarding the title to a non-citizen to begin with than there is for stripping a title that wouldn't be stripped from a divorced citizen. But regardless, M never was going to have to give up her US citizenship.

@lizzie: You are probably right about Meghan not being required to renounce her US citizenship

I still think that if Meghan and Harry eventually divorce, it would provide a great reason for her titles, to be removed due to her not being a citizen of the UK. Due to their overblown sense of grandiosity, narcissists frequently shoot themselves in the foot.

I think that not going through the process of obtaining British citizenship will be an example of Meghan shooting herself in the foot. She likely thought to herself, “Why should I have to bother with getting British citizenship when I’ll be soon be spending the rest my life back in Cali?

Each time more information is revealed that supports the theory that Meghan never intended to spend her life living in the UK (or at least living in a Commonwealth nation) as a working royal, such as the recent revelation that she began working on the Pearl series with David Furnish in early 2019, it becomes more obvious that she wormed her way into Harry’s life and the royal family strictly for self-serving purposes of obtaining the title and spending the rest of her life gorging on all the goodies that come with it with none of the responsibilities as she holds court in California.
Maneki Neko said…
@lizzie

You are right when you say that one can have dual UK/US nationality and that Autumn Phillips has dual UK/Canadian nationality. Autumn, however, has no title.

I can't see why TBW would have to renounce her US citizenship and there is no way she can get (or wants) British nationality at present. I think even if they divorced and she lost her status as a foreigner there would be an outcry from her sugars and the one inevitable claims or racism. The BRF can't win, whatever they do.

As @HappyDays said 'professional widowhood' might be appealing to TBW - "as she bangs every wealthy man she can manage to hook up with.";)
Elsbeth1847 said…
Well that is a little amusing:

DM has it that Jameela Jamil will be in the Marvel Universe. 6w wanted to be an action figure.

lizzie said…
@HappyDays wrote:

"I think that not going through the process of obtaining British citizenship will be an example of Meghan shooting herself in the foot. She likely thought to herself, “Why should I have to bother with getting British citizenship when I’ll be soon be spending the rest my life back in Cali?"

I agree they should have stuck it out for longer. And agree its obvious M never intended to. Not sure what H was thinking. Certainly for M to get UK citizenship they'd have had to stayed longer than the 18 or so months they stayed after the wedding.

I don't know that I see M's failure to achieve citizenship as one of her her biggest errors though as there were so many starting from Day #1. Wearing that absurdly expensive evening gown for the daytime engagement photo shoot in the garden was ridiculous. And IMO things went downhill from there.

If they had stuck it out for longer I still don't think they'd have gotten what they apparently wanted-- 1/2 in 1/2 out with all commercial ventures ok, security paid for, no Sovereign Grant money but the same money from the Duchy... But if they had stuck it out longer they probably could have left on better terms AND likely could have persuaded Charles to give them money regularly. Still, it sounds like everything was pretty toxic behind the scenes from the very beginning. So staying longer may not have been an option. I also don't know that we know for sure that leaving was entirely H&M's idea regardless of how their "flight to freedom" has been spun.
Magatha Mistie said…

Singalong anyone
pass the 🎤

Apologies to Conway Twitty etc
It’s Only Make Believe

It’s Only Take Receive

People see you and despair
We can’t abide you pair
How much you lie, deceive
We know it’s only make believe

Our one and only prayer
Is for your lies laid bare
Our hopes and dreams for you
Are that you’ll get what’s due
We’re all here to show
How we detest you ho

It’s All Only Fake Deceive

Magatha Mistie said…

@lizzie

I’ve always believed they were booted out.
RF cottoned on to their ploy early,
and after their S.Africa trip sent them
on garden leave to decide in, or out.
They brought their ‘flight’ forward,
and have been scrabbling ever since.


Magatha Mistie said…

Pearlesque

The grit from an oyster
Has allowed her to foister
Her latest infernal schlock
I don’t wish to appear churlish
Regarding Uncle David Furnish
But it’s all a pile of croc rock




Karla said…
Magatha... forever ❤️❤️❤️
Girl with a Hat said…
I don't think that Canadians can posses titles because Conrad Black was obliged to forfeit his Canadian citizenship when he was awarded a lordship. The funny thing is that when he deemed it necessary to live in Canada after his conviction in the USA, he had to renegue his lordship to get his Canadian citizenship back. The Canadians were threatening to not allow him to live in Canada since he was a convicted felon. However, when he became a born Canadian again, they couldn't deny him residency in his own native land.
Hikari said…
Since we've been discussing Meg's biggest blunders . . . this turned up unbidden in my Facebook feed yesterday. Too great not to share. Love the voiceover comments and the perfect accompaniment music!

"Meghan Markle's Most Embarrassing Moments" by Pilot Hardy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLeASznYJoY
Sandie said…
Hi everyone

Lots of news to share, but first want to share an excellent post from AuntJane at
Sandie said…
Hi everyone

Lots of news to share but first want to recommend a post by AuntJane at LSA. In fact, it is so good that I am going to be naughty and copy and paste in chunks.

PART 1

I started going through the Sally Bedell Smith bio of Prince Charles and was impressed. I found it compassionate, fair and rational, with some info in it that hasn't been recycled to death. Unlike Tom Bower she ridicules nobody and is not judgmental. Just about all of her sources are named with the exact quote attached. She doesn't seem to have a pet premise or point she wants to establish - it's just a portrait of this guy and the people around him. It's mature warts and all writing, for adults. She leaves herself out of it. To me it makes Tom Bower look unprofessional, bitchy and tabloid-esque. After reading it I wouldn't want to hang out with Charles OR Diana, but might with Phillip, the Queen, William or Camilla. And Emilie von Cutsem.

What really struck me was the money and how insanely Meghan and Harry are barking up the wrong tree trying to wrest money from the BRF. The BRF have to jump through hoops to wrest millions in cash from themselves. Charles had to go through the system to get the money from the Duchy to buy himself Highgrove, and had to have a rationale for the purchase. The money for Diana's divorce came from an extraction of capital from the Duchy of Lancaster, which Charles repaid over time. The money for Anne and Andrew's homes came from the Duchy of Lancaster and IMO it is sketchy whether it is therefore their personal assets (although nobody looked too closely at it when Andrew sold Sunninghill Park and pocketed the proceeds). Bedell doesn't go into it - she doesn't get sidetracked. I just wonder about it and would like to research the Duchy of Lancaster more since the Duchy of Cornwall gets way more publicity.
Her biggest blunder(s) for me were at the outset where she gave herself away completely with 2 statements:

-Expressing her views on British membership, or otherwise, of the EU. Royals are expected to be seen as politically neutral. Anything else is very dangerous.

- Saying she intended to `modernise the monarchy'. I instantly interpreted this as `destroy the monarchy' because it's a truth known to many Brits that the RF realise that any `modernisation' necessary has to be done with great delicacy and it's certainly not the job of a newcomer with bugger-all idea of how the UK works.

I hoped that these were silly errors and that she would be put right very quickly. Her subsequent conduct, however, has shown that's exactly what she meant.
Sandie said…
PART 2

Charles is forbidden to extract capital from the Duchy of Cornwall (can't sell assets / property). This book makes me believe there was no way the BRF offered or would have been able to offer Meghan millions in going away money either as a fiancee or a wife and absolutely no way Meghan and Harry could have gotten in on the Duchy of Cornwall income no matter how much they whined and threatened. It would have been extremely difficult to fund them at the level of William and Kate and as well as everybody and their mother would have been what the actual FUCK are you doing? NO. Even if Charles had wanted to. Can't be done. These are probably the reasons Meghan and Harry hate the so-called gray suits but I was left with the impression if the gray suits green-lit any scheme to give Meghan and Harry direct line level funding the government would have gotten involved somehow and put a stop to it. Also made me see again that Meghan and Harry are punching WAY above their weight and are of course idiots with no clue how money works, let alone the various systems within the BRF. Also makes me think that not only the BRF but EVERYBODY must have pissed themselves laughing over the manifesto. I remember a anon palace insider saying the two of them had no idea even what "independent income" means. Measuring that manifesto against some of the book's explanations about how this or that financial transaction occurred, where the money came from and how it was approved just makes me think Meghan and Harry must be perceived as not only audacious and entitled, but absolutely insane/deranged.

And finally after reading most of this book I'm convinced nobody, not the queen, not Charles, not the housekeeping staff, not the guards at the gate, not a single human being breathing air or adjacent air of the royals was fooled by Meghan Markle for a single second. Charles' social history is intense. So is the queen's. There are all kinds of names who are embedded with the royals - for example Penny Romsey is all over the book even though Phillip and the queen are on the margins. She and her family are a big part of Charles' life. Emilie van Cutsem was another "second mom" to William and Harry with a big emphasis on manners - William for example was forbidden to wear jeans to dinner and was made to call Emilie's husband "Mr. van Cutsem." The lessons obviously appear to have affected William if not Harry. There is not just the royal family but around Charles and the queen an infrastructure of people - other families, and even aids - who have been intimately bound up with the family for 2-3 generations who are all part of their yearly rhythm. The book is interesting on its own but setting Meghan and Harry against what I was reading it's easy to see that their brainpower is in inverse proportion to their gall. After reading the book it's easy to see that their ignorance is breathtaking. And everybody knows it. I think everyone's happy to watch them play themselves no matter how the public wants a public reckoning / disgrace. And there's no way Charles can be sending them the level of millions people pretend. What's been reported (as much as 3 million that was cut off) sounds about right.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Everything you said is so true, especially It’s Only Take Receive. May their downfall be swift.
I hope your lockdown is bearable x


@Hikari

Thanks for the link to TBW's most embarrassing moments. I watched the 1st bit before where she looks like a fish out of water, cringingly embarrassing.
Sandie said…
PART 3

The book will settle into my system and its current influence on my thinking might abate but another impression it left me with is everything the BRF has done to date is to protect Harry more than protect itself - save him from himself. H&M are not an institutional threat. I don't think the BRF was all that worried about their shenanigans on a personal scale - they got them out of the way and into Frogmore (or wherever) early enough. And one hopes the bullying was taken seriously. And of course Charles is hyper sensitive to ANY criticism so he was going to want to respond to every single thing and it's probably good was prevented. I don't believe he has a soft spot for Harry at this point. Just one of the things out of Harry and Meghan's mouth would be enough for decades of alienation as far as Charles is concerned. I suspect they are delighted Harry and Meghan are far away in L.A. and have reconciled themselves to the idea that they've done what they can to save them from themselves and now washed their hands.
Sandie said…
Which of Meghan's many blunders do you think will mark her final downfall?

I was pondering this as I considered what is going on in South Africa. Jacob Zuma is finally in prison, not for the many charges of various forms of corruption (which he has been evading for more that a decade) but for contempt of court. Unfortunately, he will only be there for a few months, but, at last, he is in prison! An Al Capone moment in the history of my country.

6 of the 9 provinces in South Africa are untouched by the looting and destruction that has been going on in Gauteng, KwaZulu-Natal and a small spot in the middle of Mpumulanga, so most of South Africa has been watching in the media along with the rest of the world. It was basically a failed attempted coup by the corrupt cabal from the presidency of Zuma, and, battered by the virus and lockdowns, people eagerly joined the destruction and looting, and not in support of Zuma (like Meghan, his supporters are a small minority but they are destructive and threatening).

People don't get thrown in jail for bankruptcy in America do they? They just declare bankruptcy and then start again, free of debts. But what if there is a bit of fraud uncovered and directly linked to Meghan? Would she be that careless? Would Harry take the fall for her?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Portcitylass
PW has already implored Tech to censor all bullying and he got nowhere. And even with all DT's money even he hasn't been able to fight back against this. So a future King and US President had no influence whatsoever.

What you have said about tech reminds me of Edmund Burke recognizing the power of the press in the 1700s:

"There are three estates in Parliament but in the Reporters' Gallery yonder there sits a Fourth Estate more important far than they all. It is not a figure of speech or witty saying, it is a literal fact, very momentous to us in these times."

Although modern tech seems intertwined with media, it is a completely different animal that takes thought policing to a totally different level. I don't know if I'd call modern tech the new fourth estate or perhaps a fifth estate. I'm not sure what anyone in government can do about the deplatforming of people whom the tech lords have deemed to have the "wrong" opinions, but I do see a new trend of building your own platforms.

At first I was sad to lose the sense of a public forum that the giants like Twitter and Instagram have been providing. But if they can censor anyone with the impunity of a fascist regime, it's not a proper public forum anyway, is it? I initially bought the smear that private platforms would merely be echo chambers, lacking the checks and balances of "democratic" fora, where everyone's posts carry the same weight and you can join for free. But again, how democratic can something be if people can be knocked off for wrong-think?

You do have to pay to use those private platforms, which you'd think would be a turn off after decades of getting so much free content online. (I myself haven't made the leap to paying subscriber yet.) But they're growing without me. Unsurprisingly, they tend to have the political leanings and sympathies that big tech seems to consider most dangerous.

What does this mean for Royal Families, who have created truces with the churches, the parliaments and (to some extent) even the reporters? I can't imagine a Royal Family developing its own app or any kind of platform. But they're not the only ones with a reason to be disillusioned with big tech. Perhaps the future will see the rise of monarchist private platforms and anti-monarchist private platforms, neither one really more powerful than the other, and monarchs having to navigate those new waters.
Karla said…
Sandie said..." absolutely no way Meghan and Harry could have gotten in on the Duchy of Cornwall"
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YesThe Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall (Accounts) Act 1838 gave the Treasury a role to ensure that actions taken by any Duke when managing the Duchy cannot compromise the long-term value of the estate. For this reason the Treasury must, for example, approve all property transactions with a value of £500,000 or more. The Duchy’s annual accounts are laid before the House of Commons and the House of Lords so that Parliament can be satisfied that the Treasury is fulfilling its statutory responsibilities.
The Duchy’s 1337 charter established that The Duke of Cornwall is the eldest surviving son of the monarch and the Heir to The Throne. When the current Prince of Wales accedes the throne, The Duke of Cambridge will become Duke of Cornwall.
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I liked your post.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
Thanks for sharing that post! It's an excellent review of Sally Bedell Smith's book. I'm all BRF-ed out in my book reading these days, but if I ever want to pick up something new, it will be that one.
What could be the final nail in their coffin?

Is there any way of demonstrating that Archie and Lily are not what they are made out to be, that doesn't involve a breach of medical ethics?

Either she or H would have to let it slip out by accident - how likely is that?
Ava C said…
@Hikari - thanks so much for the link to Meghan's most embarrassing moments. Thoroughly enjoyable and the music was perfect!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLeASznYJoY
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
Which of Meghan's many blunders do you think will mark her final downfall?

It depends on what we'd consider a downfall. Sunshine Sacks finally dropping her and no other PR firm willing to take up the reins?

Do we think that Bruce Jenner has had a downfall? He still seems to have the support of his family and no one will speak ill of him publicly for fear of being cancelled. But he has no more endorsements and his reality TV career is down to the occasional C-list show appearance. I doubt anyone takes seriously his plans to run for governor of California and everyone expects him to fall on his face.

Now, I hate to compare Bruce to Harry's wife. As far as I can tell, all they have in common is three marriages. But I see similarities in the publicity both have received over "courageous" decisions they've made and in their interest in US politics. So if Harry's wife continues on her present trajectory, I think her downfall will look like what I've described in the previous paragraph. Sans the supportive family.
abbyh said…
WBBM

Never underestimate the ability of people to do really stupid things.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: Thanks for the link to the YouTube video of the Commandant. It was cringey to watch her, it gives a person second-hand embarrassment. In the USO clip she looks around and around, touches her hair endlessly instead of joining in with the singing; nobody wants anything to do with her. Anyone know whose car she was digging through, and when, before or after marriage? Absolutely no boundaries. The totality of the video clips says to me that 6w is a person who can't stand to be in her own skin.
@abbyh

So, fingers crossed!
Sandie said…
https://pagesix.com/2021/07/19/prince-harry-writing-an-explosive-memoir-about-royal-family-life/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Oh dear ... Harry has written a memoir (well, it is ghost written). Supposedly he is going to give all profits to charity.

It is going to be a cringe worthy and distorted version of events, thoughts and feelings of a very confused prince, isn't it?
MsDeb52 said…
I lack the skills to lift the article from the Daily Mail, but story released 10 minutes ago... that Harry has written a "memoir" with a Pulitzer Prize winning author about his life in the Royal Family. Already picked up by Penguin House. So loathsome a thing to do.
Miggy said…
BREAKING NEWS: Prince Harry 'has written shock Megxit MEMOIR which could hit shelves before Christmas' in new bombshell to rock the Royal Family.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9803675/Prince-Harry-written-bombshell-Megxit-MEMOIR.html
Enbrethiliel said…
@Fifi LaRue
Anyone know whose car she was digging through, and when, before or after marriage?

It was Harry's car. And I believe it was before the marriage, as his friends were still trying to help him.

In the USO clip she looks around and around, touches her hair endlessly instead of joining in with the singing; nobody wants anything to do with her.

I'm still a little surprised that we don't have any tea from that USO tour. For everyone to have ignored her so publicly, she must have done something epically offensive. Maybe something on the level of the tea "spilling" during the Australian tour. The only explanations I can think of are: a) the celebrities there are all very discreet and don't spread gossip, even as a public service; and b) for all her offensiveness, Harry's future wife is actually super unmemorable.
@miggy

I just saw the headline about Mole’s apparent book of lies…..not that I’m surprised! 🤨
@Miggy, that must be the book MM was threatening to write? Shipping the pages and notes she had written to friends while she was still in the UK? They must have literally no way left to generate money. A book like this was supposed to be the last arrow in their quiver?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
@Miggy

Is anyone taking bets on the identity of the ghost writer, who has realized that a memoir about herself would simply not be marketable?

Then again, this must be an old contract that is grudgingly being fulfilled by a publisher that now regrets getting into anything with the Harkles. Harry's wife was incredibly lazy about promoting her book to the lowly commoners who make up the majority of the book market, though she must have personally inscribed a hundred copies for "fellow" celebrity mothers whom she perceived as being on her level. (What a poor ROI that only Heid Klum took the bait.) It's easy to imagine that Harry will be equally frustrating as an "author."

I do wonder about the pre-Christmas release date. Do the Harkles really believe this book will be a great stocking stuffer? The kind of read you'd like to curl up with, a steaming cup of cocoa by your side, while you relax over the holidays? Perhaps she just wants to launch it on the same day as the Cambridge family Christmas card.
Maneki Neko said…
I've just seen the headline about The memoir that Harry has 'written'. Considering his academic record, I don't think he wrote anything. I wonder if not will flop like Finding Freebies or the Bench. Probably all fiction disguised as facts, a rehash of the O interview. The book will be followed by the film ('produced' and directed by TBW). How exciting - not.
Miggy said…
Yes, I'm betting TBW had a hand in writing this book.

Snippet from DM:

'I'm writing this not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become. I've worn many hats over the years, both literally and figuratively, and my hope is that in telling my story— the highs and lows, the mistakes, the lessons learned — I can help show that no matter where we come from, we have more in common than we think.

'I'm deeply grateful for the opportunity to share what I've learned over the course of my life so far and excited for people to read a first hand account of my life that's accurate and wholly truthful.'


Truthful and accurate? From Harry?
Ziggy said…
"How to go from a beloved public figure to the most hated man in the world in under 5 years (For Dummies.)" By Prince Harry
Elsbeth1847 said…
I think they both underestimate the interest in yet another book coming from them (after FF).

The part I really think about is the courtier(s) who know 6 and his word phrasing reading the new book and able to dissect how much of it is really his words and how much is someone else. That we won't ever know.

ghostwriter: wonder who drew that short straw?
@Maneki & Enbrethiliel, I was thinking the same thing and laughing when I saw the headline-we all know he can't write and string a sentence together, so it must have been her!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Maneki Neko
The book will be followed by the film ('produced' and directed by TBW). How exciting - not.

Given that they've admitted they're not hanging out with the Hollywood crowd, I don't think there will be a movie.

Since they're sucking up to the tech world, however, they may launch an app. An app for people struggling with genetic pain.
Karla said…
Miggy....OMG! That's "croc-o-dile"!

He has been working with a ghostwriter in what is the first time a senior royal has ever written such a book
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Not so ghost!
Prince Harry has been working with Pulitzer-winning ghostwriter J. R. Moehringer in what is the first time a senior royal has ever written such a book.
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J.R.Moehringer
-1997, Literary Award, PEN Center USA West.
-1997, Livingston Award for Young Journalists.
-2000, Pulitzer Prize for Feature Writing.
Miggy said…
Prince Harry has been working with Pulitzer-winning ghostwriter J. R. Moehringer.
Sandie said…
"intimate and heartfelt memoir from one of the most fascinating and influential global figures of our time”.

I love the above excerpt from the PR release about Harry's autobiography. The Harkles are so full of themselves and so convinced that their word salad PR is real.

No Harry, you are not the most influential global figure of our time. You are not fascinating either, other than the fascination of watching an immensely privileged idiot mess up over and over again. You are also not truthful, and the heartfelt passion is obviously missing from many Zoom calls that you have done with your wife ...
Enbrethiliel said…
@ConstantGardener33

The snippet that @Miggy has shared seals the deal! It's exactly in her style!
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

You asked 'What could be the final nail in their coffin?' Perhaps H's book? He has to be tone deaf not to see the damage done by the O interview and has to compound the damage by 'writing' a book. It might be at this point that the Queen decides that enough is enough.

As for he or TBW letting something slip out by accident re. Archie and his sister, H would be a distinct possibility, as in 'babies change so much in two weeks'. His floozy is too practised a liar to make that mistake.
I wonder just who it was that coined the term `literary memoire'? (my italics).

Laughable - it's dripping with the wife's pretentiousness.
Maneki Neko said…
@Enbrethiliel

The film could be on Netflix? They haven't really produced any work or much work so far.

'An app for people struggling with genetic pain.' 😂 Now don't give them any ideas!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Karla and @Miggy
Re: J.R. Moehringer

Well, okay, but it was fun to picture Harry's wife feverishly typing away what she hopes will be the bomb that finally levels the BRF.
Karla said…
Enbrethiliel...I still think Meghan wrote Harry's memoirs to Harry. Lol
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They will never stop!
The drama network’s latest installment in the Harry & Meghan television movie franchise will premiere Monday, September 6 at 8 p.m. ET/PT. ( Wasn't September 6 the day of Lady Di's funeral?)
Lifetime and the premiere of the third Harry and Meghan film
https://deadline.com/2021/07/harry-meghan-escaping-the-palace-lifetime-premiere-date-trailer-1234793981/
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"Intimate and heartfelt memoir from one of the most fascinating and influential global figures of our time”.

On the fascinating part, I agree. With someone as brainless as Harry thinks? Harry, the new Frankenstein of the modern age.
@Miggy, E, & WBBM, she probably had typed everything up, and then gleefully sent them to the ghost writer to clean up, polish, and put together.
Miggy said…
@Enbrethiliel,

Well, okay, but it was fun to picture Harry's wife feverishly typing away what she hopes will be the bomb that finally levels the BRF.

Oh, come on! 😄 We all know that she will have told Harry exactly what to say to Mr. J.R. Moehringer. TBW knows more about H's life than H himself does! (all that studying she did!)
Hikari said…

@Sandie

You pose a few questions and I will attempt the second one first:

People don't get thrown in jail for bankruptcy in America do they? They just declare bankruptcy and then start again, free of debts. But what if there is a bit of fraud uncovered and directly linked to Meghan? Would she be that careless? Would Harry take the fall for her?

We used to have debtors' prisons but now we just declare bankruptcy and start over, as you said. Mostly. The only debts which are not eligible to be bailed out on are federal student loans--the government will always get what's coming to it. Credit cards are another story. A fiscal mismanagement that will get you a hefty jail sentence is income tax evasion, whether it's failing to file taxes at all or vastly underreporting what you actually owe. Harry's wife has already faced off with our Internal Revenue Service for back taxes on her various businesses which she had not paid for a few years. Of course our Narc denied that she owed anything and insisted on a court proceeding. She had her buttpads handed to her in court because the government had the documentation, and she was forced to pay the judgement. It was a fairly modest amount . . under $20,000, which is a lot of money to an average person but for a *successful television star* and *Instagram influencer* (** for humor) it shouldn't have been an insurmountable amount of money. After all, she told the Royal family she had $5 million dollars upon her marriage. $20,000 was something like one-fifth of what her engagement dress cost . . but of course, the RF paid for *that*.

The Wife has always been a grifter and a leech who wildly inflates her actual assets and snatches all the freebies and favors she can get her grabby hands on. Screwing over Uncle Sam on her taxes would be one potential downfall. The investigators of the IRS are as relentless as she is and you can be sure they will be all over the Sussex fiscal affairs like flies on poo. Notorious 1930s gangster Al Capone was responsible for ordering dozens, maybe hundreds of murders and was in all kinds of criminal enterprises, but he was sure to keep his tracks covered. In the end, he was sent to prison for decades on the charge of tax evasion. I think that the Harkles will screw up in some way, between the very complicated tax codes of two countries. It's doubtful that any British court could prosecute her for anything but there's always hope that she'll be in front of an American judge for something before very long.




Ava C said…
Harry the Royal Octopus. With a hand-grenade up every sleeve.

Just think, he's been here twice now, welcomed with politeness despite his treacheries. And all the time he knew he was doing this.

I really don't know why I'm surprised but I am. I guess it's because I'm still a human-being. Like the rest of you. M twisted H into something else long ago. He's no longer 'a prince' or 'a man'. Would you call THAT a man?

If the BRF don't cast him out once and for all, after this, many people will be done with them. Myself included.
Maneki Neko said…
I suppose H's book will put paid to the 6s' hopes - nay, demands - for a christening at Windsor with the Queen in attendance. If not, it should.
Ava C said…
That advance book blurb reminds me of that clip on the compilation of Meghan's most embarrassing moments @Hikari shared with us. The two of them thinking a standing ovation was for THEM when it wasn't. That was such a window into their minds. They truly thought they were worth that, when neither of them have any skills or virtues at all. The only notable thing about them is the size of their egos. Yet they stood there, lapping it all up, looking utterly ridiculous.

I'm still waiting for M to get the Dangerous Liaisons ending she so richly deserves. Universal booing. Will it ever happen?
Hikari said…
@Sandie

Which of Meghan's many blunders do you think will mark her final downfall?

Wild Boar broaches one possibility:

What could be the final nail in their coffin?

Is there any way of demonstrating that Archie and Lily are not what they are made out to be, that doesn't involve a breach of medical ethics?

Either she or H would have to let it slip out by accident - how likely is that?


The most egregious thing both of them have committed is subverting the constitutional succession to the crown of Great Britain. That is a treasonous offense. Since TBW is not a British citizen and is back in her home country, it'd be hard to prosecute her for offenses against the Crown. Proof that Harry colluded though would certainly justify his removal from the line of succession along with all his faux heirs. In the olden days, if he were not executed by the monarch, he would have been banished to a remote castle somewhere where he'd live out the remainder of his miserable days under armed guard lest he attempt to mount another rebellion.

Incontrovertible proof that "Harry's children" were created in a lab, carried by others or bought . . .or that the entire charade of parenthood has been an elaborate and poorly managed scam from the first day she announced her "pregnancy" at Eugenie's wedding . . .that would end her. Or Harry, which is essentially the same thing. Her fortunes are tied to Harry's since she's got no value as a commodity alone.

If not that, then some kind of horrific vice coming to light ala Epstein . . drug fueled orgies involving minors maybe . . proveable child abuse of any bought/borrowed/stolen/engineered children in their dubious care . . or, hate to say it, but if she were to maim H or kill him and that could be proven--I really do smell a number of Dateline NBC programs in this couple's future. They will be notorious, which is a kind of fame. A life sentence in prison for her would suit me just fine.

We shall have to wait and see how much lower this pair of delusional losers can sink.
Elskainga said…
@Enbretheliel

I really see this book of Harry’s “truths” as being further corrosive to their image. Divisive, negative, self-absorbed, without honor or loyalty…(describes both of them)
He is a nut job. I feel so bad for HMTQ and PC, both of whom surely did everything they could to ensure #6’s happiness and safety. They now must grieve again over the loss of another family member because Harry is dead to them.
xxxxx said…
Here is the PR on Harry's new book. As appears in the DM today. A memoir no less! At his tender young age. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9803675/Prince-Harry-written-bombshell-Megxit-MEMOIR.html
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He has himself confirmed: 'I'm writing this not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become. I've worn many hats over the years, both literally and figuratively, and my hope is that in telling my story— the highs and lows, the mistakes, the lessons learned — I can help show that no matter where we come from, we have more in common than we think.

'I'm deeply grateful for the opportunity to share what I've learned over the course of my life so far and excited for people to read a firsthand account of my life that's accurate and wholly truthful.'

A statement from the publisher reads: 'In an intimate and heartfelt memoir from one of the most fascinating and influential global figures of our time, Prince Harry will share, for the very first time, the definitive account of the experiences, adventures, losses, and life lessons that have helped shape him.

'Covering his lifetime in the public eye from childhood to the present day, including his dedication to service, the military duty that twice took him to the frontlines of Afghanistan, and the joy he has found in being a husband and father, Prince Harry will offer an honest and captivating personal portrait, on that shows readers that behind everything they think they know lies an inspiring, courageous and uplifting human story.' __________________

DM Comments:

MomoLondon321, London, United Kingdom, moments ago
He will donate to Archewell, of which he is allowed to keep 95%. They are so transparent.
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DF67, London, United Kingdom, moments ago
A book to keep the bar bq going.
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TimeToRollaLot, Rollingshire, Tonga, moments ago
This is the book, that the whole world has been desperately waiting for. Finally, the truth will be revealed around the unimaginably horrific treatment of Prince Harry & Princess Meghan, at the hands of the Royal Family. Including this innocent young couple, being cruely being forced into exile across the pond. But please - do not let your children read this book, as they will be irreparably scarred for life
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CumbrianMaid, Penrith, United Kingdom, moments ago
Next step,Only fans.Selling pictures of his russety little tinkle to keep Megatron in designer dresses
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MelissaRebecca, In the shadow of the eclipse, United States, 34 minutes ago
I think Harry may be hitting the bottle or snorting something up his nose. He's off his rockers. And so is she. They are raging against the royals in such a major way. They must be broke. Or, worse, in major debt. And Charles isn't answering the phone or opening up his bank account to help the Sussexes become financially independent. Just wait a little longer guys. Harry will soon be divorced of Meghan. I'm saying late 2022 to 2023. He'll return to your country and you all can rehab him. I really think Harry is probably high or drunk most of the time.
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Sally Le dale, GTA, Canada, 1 hour ago
Life lessons from a 36 year old? He continues to have an overinflated opinion of himself.
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amirelypugh, Sagaponack , United States, 2 hours ago
Harry and Meghan will never stop sharing royal stories because it's the only thing people are interested in from them. No one cares about their views on mental health or woke politics. They won't make the money without the royal connection .
Teasmade said…
J.R. Moehringer is no slouch, to put it mildly (I guess the art teacher who faked H's projects wasn't available) but DANG! it'll take a lot of invention to turn this nothingburger into, what was it, now? (Sorry, I had to scroll up for a minute). This "fascinating and influential" nobody into a full-length subject. As others have noted, he is the polar opposite of both of those--dead boring and anti-influential, if there is such a thing.

I hope he isn't Markled (Moehringer, that is.)

Payment upfront, J.R.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Maneki Neko
Now don't give them any ideas!

On the contrary, they are welcome to all my ideas!

Harry and wife, if you're reading this, please create this app! Whenever people with genetic pain feel triggered, they can open the app and read an original inspirational quote by the wife that only sounds a tiny bit like something Eleanor Roosevelt or the writers of Grey's Anatomy have said before. She could call these "Seed Pearls" . . . or even "Pearls of Hope." Upon reading the quotes, users would instantly feel better and not need anything else in life! Paying subscribers can also listen to recordings of Harry's wife reading the quotes aloud. You know, I think this could be the next big thing in apps. Hey, Harkles, maybe someone from the "non-famous crowd of tech billionaires" could help you design it!
xxxxx said…
When is Megz going to come out with her Memoir, about her trials and tribulations during her 7 amazing years working at Suits?
Enbrethiliel said…
The-best-soap-opera-ever on Tumblr just shared the news about Harry's new memoir and commented:

"Which means the royals denied the Christening."

I had to laugh. Yes, that makes sense. How pathetic, though, to threaten your family with a tell-all unless you get the Christening, with the Queen in attendance, that you demand. They're going to run out of blackmail material soon, though. They can't be interviewed by Oprah and write a memoir every year. Or is this another one of my great ideas they'll want to adopt? ;-)
fordgirl said…
MM is throwing H under the bus since the OW interview. This ridiculous memoir is the last proof. If you analyze all the last events, she has say nothing. She is manipulating all from behind so she can walk out "free". When everything goes wrong, she can say it was all H's fault, that she was encouraging him not to do all this.
Enbrethiliel said…
Also from The-best-soap-opera-ever, this excellent anonymous submission:

I know this is long, but the "H&M hanging out with LA's rich tech bros" story continues to crack me up. I know everyone’s been mocking it, but as someone who lives in LA and has a passing familiarity with the city’s elite circles, that article is one big flashing sign screaming “M&H are not elite but really want to be.”

Here’s the thing about LA: For all we pretend to be boho whatever, there are rules and a definite pecking order. People see the laidback vibe and assume that’s all there is, which is a mistake. For one, the dress code alone takes a while to figure out. None of these “rules” are difficult but knowing them is a pretty big indicator of whether someone is in or out. It’s super clear H&M don’t know them.

One, they keep pretending Santa Barbara and LA are one and the same. Nope. Real elite have houses in both places. Heck, even a lot of upper middle class sorts do. Assuming it’s all just one area, that people just pop down to LA for a party then head back home to Montecito is something people from “flyover states” do (apologies, Midwesterners).

Two, everyone knows PR is part of the job but the actual elite value privacy and discretion. The truly successful don’t need to engage with the press more than necessary. Plus, they have things to do. That includes tech and start ups. I briefly worked for a start up, and one thing I quickly learned is that you don’t post about “this dinner” or “that meeting” on SM. And you definitely don’t do trashy PR like tabloids or crow about hanging with the cool people.

The ‘fawning all over Harry’ detail is perhaps my favorite. Based on how it’s described, I’ve been fawned all over too. My actual job is not exciting, but it sounds cool and has some neat bits. Pre-pandemic, through dumb luck, I ended up at two somewhat exclusive events. I felt way, way out of my league at both – I mean, these people are massive successes – but at both, someone asked what I do for a living and then had a ton of questions for me because of my job’s cool details. At one event, other people ended up coming over to ask questions of their own about my job. Here’s the thing: the interest wasn’t about me or how amazing I am or that they were going to fall all over me with offers and beg to be BFFs. Rather, it’s that part of why these people are successful is that they’re curious about the world. They also tend to be exceptional networkers. My guess is it’s similar for Harry. He probably has gone to some exclusive events. There probably has been some interest, because he has a unique story and is something of a novelty. People probably did ask him questions, but that sort of curiosity has zero useful currency.

Also, no way in hell someone successful in tech or another industry would belittle someone like Adele. She’s a massive success, and massively successful people, regardless of the field, like hanging out together.


(Part 1 of 2)
Enbrethiliel said…
Part 2 of 2:

As for that terminal at LAX: it was created based on the idea of offering privacy for elite fliers. People way bigger than H have gone through there with no pap shots (That’s the whole point of service! That’s why it’s so expensive!). Given the terminal is probably hurting after the past year, my guess is they’re trying to stay afloat and are lowering their standards and doing some low-key advertising. As Harry is cheap, he’s probably willing to shill for a membership, which isn’t something an actual elite would do, because it’s bringing unwanted attention to a private space and cheapening is value. Shining a light on that sort of exclusive space can even make you less trusted among power players, because it shows you’ll sell out their privacy for a buck.

For all Hollywood is all about attention, true power players – and those who want to become a power player – know the rules and the game. H&M either don’t think the rules apply to them (which is a sure way to not gain entrance to those circles) or aren’t part of the circles but want everyone to think they are. My guess is it’s a little of both. But if you had any questions about how poorly their LA life is going, I’d say this one single article highlights and underlines that things are not going according to their manifesto.


Ouch! Did Harry and his wife feel the burn from here? My eyebrows are singed!
LavenderLady said…
@Sandie,

Thanks for the LSA posts by AuntJane.

I completely agree that Spare and TBW are idiots; because they are idiots they are loose cannons therefore very dangerous. I myself believe they can do serious damage, as they have shown. It's like giving 2 drunken fools AR-15s to play with in a crowd of people. Someone will get hurt. The times are ripe for it...

I know Nutties are sick of hearing me say this but it's worth repeating: what the IRA couldn't do to the British Royal Family, Meghan Markle has done. And will continue to do, if she's not stopped. I believe they know this, but because of the racial issue, it must be handled delicately and over time. I include Spare in this comment but we really know whose at the helm here.

We can joke and laugh, which is good ol Belfast black humor, but it's a very serious matter. I'm positive the RF and co are banging their heads trying to strategize what to do.

JMO.
Humor Me said…
Breaking news: Harry tells all his "truth" in print form, just in time for Christmas!!
I knew it was too quiet after the unveiling of the statue. These two are driven to be relevant while the news cycle is still warm.
Este said…
Just when I think Harry couldn't get any more vindictive, sink any lower...we find out he's written a memoir. It's really and truly time for the RF to take away the titles and ban him from any public events like the platinum jubilee. These two are just vile.
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JHanoi said…
JH book
i’m sure the BRF expected / anticipated JH’s contuning to drop “JH’s Truth bombs” and even a book. based ono the O interview nearly everyone knows they’re liars and and just hooovering up money. will H address all their lies in the book? I doubt it. will he address all his unwoke, maybe illegal, stupid youthful indiscretions? i doubt it…. he’ll whitewash the truly bad stuff he did.

he must be truly desperate for money at this point…….. whats he going to do after the book? what does he have left to sell?
Maneki Neko said…
So H didn't warn Charles about the book - quelle surprise ! - and will donate the proceeds to charity. Hmm...
I thought they told 'their' truth in the O interview, what more is there to say? Has he ever heard of the saying, when you're in a hole, stop digging?
NeutralObserver said…
For those who have been concerned about Harry's possible role as a regent in the event of George ascending to the throne before the age of 18, or any other circumstance:

https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/sussex/changes-to-the-regency-act-imminent-as-prince-harry-becomes-unable-to-fulfil-his-constitutional-duties-16

The 'explosive memoir' is mentioned as a factor.
Karla said…
Harry said..."I'm writing this not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become". ( cricket sounds)

https://youtu.be/K8E_zMLCRNg
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Harry 'DIDN'T warn Charles about $20m book deal': Royal Family are left 'surprised' as Duke reveals he has ALREADY written 'wholly truthful' Megxit memoir 'not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become' that will hit shelves next year .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9803675/Prince-Harry-written-bombshell-Megxit-MEMOIR.html
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Enbrethiliel..."One royal insider remarked tartly: 'A book by Harry, as written by Meghan." ( Os that Royal insider you?) Lol
Enbrethiliel said…
@ConstantGardener33
she probably had typed everything up, and then gleefully sent them to the ghost writer to clean up, polish, and put together.

Also plausible!

Do you think they had hoped to pass everything off as his own writing, but the publisher insisted on a ghostwriter? Kind of like Spotify insisted on a "Head of Audio"?
Maneki Neko said…
@NeutralObserver

I tried the link you gave at 1.01 am but couldn't see any text. While looking for something else I found this which I think it the same but with the whole article in case other Nutties have the same problem.

https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/sussex/changes-to-the-regency-act-imminent-as-prince-harry-becomes-unable-to-fulfil-his-constitutional-duties-163406/
Enbrethiliel said…
@Karla
Os that Royal insider you?)

Ha! I only comment here. But at this point, one doesn't have to be a royal insider to know what's up. We're all just stating the obvious while the Harkles scramble to gaslight us one more time. And for Christmas this time!
SirStinxAlot said…
I said it!!! No crystal ball needed, just call me Nostradamus. When they are desperate for $$$ they will start rolling out the "tell all" stories and interviews and autobiographies. M will put out another one too pre and/or post divorce. Guaranteed. I will be my paycheck on it.
Karla said…
Enbrethiliel...I couldn't agree more! You made me laugh a lot and I appreciate it!
Hugs❤️
Karla said…
The press in England jumping like popcorn in a pot....
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Harry scrambled to contact his family only when he knew the story was coming out  —  just moments before it became public.”

The Sun broke the news to Clarence House aides while Charles was at a reception in.
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PRINCE Harry has blindsided senior members of the Royal Family by secretly writing a tell-all memoir.

Harry announced an unprecedented publishing deal for the memoir — timed for release in the *Queen’s Platinum Jubilee*
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"Clearly no fences were mended while he was visiting for the unveiling of Diana’s statue. If anything, relations between Harry and Charles appear to have got worse.”

A source said: “Harry scrambled to contact his family only when he knew the story was coming out- just moments before it became public.”

It is not known if he had warned the Queen before last night"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15636423/prince-harry-reveal-highs-lows-life-royal-tell-all-memoir/
Enbrethiliel said…
@SirStinxAlot

One tell-all per major life event? Let's see how many she can wring out . . .

After Harry's memoir, she'll get her turn. Her life since the Oprah interview. An exciting year of being a best-selling children's author, hanging out with "non-famous tech billionaires," and co-producing a cartoon with Elton John's husband. Living the life, basically! We'll also get to read what she really thought about watching the unveiling on TV and seeing cruel, cruel Prince William snubbing her husband before the world. And she'd describe in detail Harry's substance abuse issues and therapy sessions, highlighting her wifely concern and devotion. Whatever makes him look weak while making her look strong.

I don't see a divorce coming, but maybe they'll do a separation. That will give her a year of material for memoir #2.

If he has an "accident" or an overdose, that will inspire memoir #3.

Life as a single mother whose royal children were denied their true birthright because of the color of their skin will be memoir #4. She'd hope to leverage it into a reality show, so she can take over where Kate Gosselin left off . . . but the Zeitgeist has become more protective toward children in media in the last decade, and no producer wants anything to do with the exploitation of Archie and Lily. So it will have to be a book.

Of course, we're assuming that publishers will still want to work with her after she refused to do much publicity for The Bench besides inscribing free copies for celebrity mothers. And after Harry's memoir tanks. As it will.
LavenderLady said…
@Enbre said,
And after Harry's memoir tanks. As it will.

_____

I don't think it will tank. People will buy it to get the dirt and tea on the RF, sad to say. He seem to attract attention when he's solo.
NeutralObserver said…
@Maneki Neko, Thanks for posting a link which works! I have no idea why my normal copy-and-paste didn't work. I'm not familiar with the site, but it looks reasonably reputable, & if the article is true, it looks as thought the RF is either acknowledging #6's unsuitability for any royal responsibility, or doesn't expect him back, or both. Either way, it's a significant piece of news.
Fifi LaRue said…
Paying a ghostwriter, and then after the book is published, buying thousands of copies to put it on the best-seller list will put a million-dollar hole in 6's inheritance.

The book may not happen. Remember, it was just recently that Diablo Cody was hired to write Madonna's autobiography, and Cody quit the project due to Madonna's difficult personality. Who else do we know of that has a most difficult personality? Madame's going to want her pound of flesh for what 6 is paying.
xxxxx said…
Title revocation would have mitigated much of this damage. Prevented it too. Titles should have been revoked when they left England. Perhaps this book is an extortion vehicle. Where The Palace must pay Harry SSS through his lawyers to have certain passages removed.

Harry Markle blogger has been screaming "Revoke titles" for years. She mentions this in every new post she makes. She was right and the BRF are fools, have been played for fools. Now comes months of leaks and speculation over what will be in this book. DM is very happy with more M/H grist for their mill.
NeutralObserver said…
I think all the #6s' baptism bleating & demanding is for 2 reasons, 1. To underline & remind people of the existence of a second child. 2. To allow #6 & #6w to claim the RF is racist if they're not allowed a Windsor baptism.

Pretty silly, as most people in the US could care less about the birth of Lili, & a child could be baptized in any Anglican church, probably in any Episcopal church, for that matter. Many royal children, such as Zara Tindall's children, are baptized in their parish churches, not a royal peculiar, like St. George's Chapel. I'm only interested in Lili because I'm not sure she exists, or if she does exist, I'm not sure how she came to be! LOL.

I don't see a groundswell of joy, affection or interest in Lili even in the UK. I might be wrong, British Nutties can correct me.
SirStinxAlot said…
I suspect, after H book hits the shelves all of the LIES will be called out just like the Oprah interview. There are countless interviews of them speaking about how they met, humanitarian projects close to their hearts, Greta recordings, interviews, etc that will be drug out again. Was he lying then or now? Either way hes just a liar and cannot be trusted. Market the book under FICTION category. $20Million seems a bit absurd to me. We already know his constantly changing story. Lie, lie, get caught, lie some more.
JHanoi said…
The press will make a bigger deal out of the book than the public will. DM comments are mostly "go away".
These two may be more disliked than the kardtrashians!
HappyDays said…
Harry’s book is due out sometime in 2022. If what I have read is accurate, Tom Bower’s book will reportedly be published before Harry’s.

It’s time for the royal family to feed every bit of unflattering info about both Harry and Meghan, including Harry's reported violent treatment of sex workers when he was in the military, to Mr. Bower.

If Harry and Meghan insist on continuing tossing bombs at the institution that is the source of their current lifestyle and all of the power, influence, and status they currently enjoy, the royal family needs to go with a scorched-earth policy with the Sussexes.

No mercy.

Ever.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sandie-good to see you back 😊

@Karla 😉

@Maneki
A bit stir crazy!!
Had to postpone trip up north,
should be poolside
quaffing cocktails and wrangling crocs!!
Nay mind, enjoying Harry’s croctale 😜
Magatha Mistie said…

The Fence

I hope the ghostwriter
Is aware that the blighter
Frequently shoots blanks, many duds
Lacking in brains, moral-sense
His book should be titled “The Fence”
As he’s banking on stolen RF goods


Svetlana said…
I'm writing this not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become. Signed, the Prince.


Snorted my coffee through my nose on that one.
Natalier said…
Second shake down of the royal family. The first one with Orca Windgey failed.

I am surprised that the Queen and Prince Charles are just so laidback with inaction. Like Happydays said, they should just go scorchearth on them now.

As a normal or common man with no titles, the interest in them and that book will decrease significantly. Who wants to read the words of a vindictive man?
Natalier said…
To quote xxxx:

"____ Harry Markle blogger has been screaming "Revoke titles" for years. She mentions this in every new post she makes. She was right and the BRF are fools, have been played for fools. Now comes months of leaks and speculation over what will be in this book. DM is very happy with more M/H grist for their mill."

Agree 100% with this.
Hikari said…
Neutral,

I expect that the dearth of a groundswell of joy over the alleged birth of a second child for the Harkles is due to the profound cynicism of an increasing percentage of the populace that such a child actually exists. And that goes equally for her supposed big brother Archie, although we have been Treated to a series of confounding images of various babies or pieces of babies, or inert baby like objects that are supposed to be Archie. Yet for the second born...The long-awaited daughter/a second granddaughter for grandpa Charles, we get zilch.

Meg has considered herself and important influencer for at least a decade, and you think that magazines would be slavering over photos of this blessed infant And willing to pay big bucks for them—This baby named after the queen for God’s sake, The “American born princess”?

In TBWs world, She with the eyes like heat seeking missile’s for a camera within a mile of her vicinity—If there aren’t pictures, it didn’t happen. So… What does that say about the birth of “Lili”? Because we haven’t had a single image of so much as a single baby toe. Ergo...I think we all know what this means.

I’m confident that Buckingham palace has way more dirt on Smeg and Harry then thy have on the Royal family. Their act of intimidation and threats is as tired as a front line prostitute. Your majesty, it’s past time to let the Not so Wee Beastie out. Release the Kraken!!

Happy Days,

It’s a pity that capital punishment for treason is out of fashion.
Karla said…
Magatha.... Forever ❤️. ."Nay mind, enjoying Harry’s croctale" ...Lol (Brillant)

...
Svetlana...."Signed, The Prince"(Lol). Comes with free crayons to color the bench.
...

Good Night...Sweet Dreams
Hikari said…
I would suggest the title “A Confederacy of Dunces” For Harry’s magnum opus, but that’s already been taken. “The Story as Told to O”?

“Go Ask Meghan”

“I Married a Witch”

“A Royal John’s Lament”

“Embrace the Suck” (also taken but so apropos)

“Who Moved My Gear?”

The Lost 37 Years

“I Escaped From a Yak Hair Cult”. (Well, we can dream)

Cast-Off

My Brother Hates Me and So Do I

Footloose 2: Hairless in So Cal
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
In TBWs world, She with the eyes like heat seeking missile’s for a camera within a mile of her vicinity—If there aren’t pictures, it didn’t happen.

And if not pictures, at least one celebrity story. Like Ellen Degeneres and the "tufts of red hair" or Jane Goodall getting to cuddle Archie. But they've given us nothing.
Enbrethiliel said…
@HappyDays and @Natalier
Re: the Palace going scorched earth on the Harkles

Or they could just give him enough rope to hang himself?

When Harry's Me You Can't See first aired, someone speculated that his wife was trying to get him to admit, on record, to substance abuse issues. Then if she later accused him of being drunk or high around the children, the stories would be more credible. What if she wants him to write the memoir so that there will be a public admission of violence as well? He's already his own worst enemy here.

Having said that, something extra couldn't hurt. The Palace could also leak something that has been a total secret, which would force Harry to address it in his book.

But if by "scorched earth," you mean not the leaking of what they've been covering up for years, but the stripping of the titles, well, yes, I agree that it's about time.
HappyDays said…
Hikari said…

Happy Days,

It’s a pity that capital punishment for treason is out of fashion.

@Hikari: I used to favor capital punishment, but after going back and forth about it for years, I decided it lets horrible people out of this life early.

For a pair like Harry and Meghan, whose entire world revolves around their earthly status, turning them into nobodies would be a fate worse than death for these two, which is why I favor removing their titles, taking Harry and any progeny out of the line of succession, and making sure negative but accurate information about Harry and Meghan surfaces in public via credible sources.


When Harry and Meghan throw their bombs, not only are they disrespecting family and the monarchy, by extension they are also disrespecting and sending a big f-you to British culture and history, the cultures of the Commonwealth nations, and the people of these countries who cheered them on their wedding day only to have buckets of poop thrown at them for the last three years by this pair of ingrates.

Remember how Trevor said that when Meghan dumped him, he felt like something stuck on the bottom of his shoe. People like Meghan derive a deviant sort of pleasure from behavior like that, and Harry has obediently bought into the never-ending sewage she spews forth that passes as humanitarian word salad.

Even though he has been eviscerated by Meghan, and in a way is a victim of a person with a likely case of narcissistic personality disorder, I think drastic measures that may cause Harry pain need to be taken to possibly shake him out of the 24/7 psychological brainwashing he is in.

Crushing Harry and his controller like cockroaches on a sidewalk with no possible path to redemption might be what is necessary to end their treacherous behavior once and for all.

If the Royal Family remains feckless and fails to take action, then if the monarchy is damaged beyond repair, then it’s their own fault. They have twiddled their thumbs long enough.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Hikari
“Who Moved My Gear” hahaha

How about
“Hollow Henry: Behind Closed Claws”
Maneki Neko said…

@Hikari

Good book titles. May I suggest A Tale of Two Brothers? I quote part of the first line of A Tale of Two Cities:

'It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the season of despair'... Written in 1859, set in 1775-93.

~~~~~~~~~~
@NeutralObserver said

'I don't see a groundswell of joy, affection or interest in Lili even in the UK. I might be wrong, British Nutties can correct me.'

Correct. No one is interested, they can't be bothered to show us Archie unless it's in staged photos with an unidentified child so people couldn't care less about the new sprog*. When the birth of 6's second child was announced, there was no excitement. People have other considerations at the moment.
* I don't want to sound petty but I refuse to call that child by her given name. That is the Queen's affectionate nickname.
@Hikari - re non-UK nationals and treason.

At one time, and I'm not sure whether it still applies, aliens ( in the legal sense, if I'm allowed to use that terms still) could be had for treason, had the offence been committed on British soil.

Even if Archie were produced elsewhere, her fakery over the pregnancy & birth were certainly committed here, as well as abroad.

---------------

According to a piece on the BBC `red button service' (a useful instant-access news feature on TV text that the BBC wanted to scrap but backed down about - wonder of wonders!) Harry is supposed to have `talked to his father' about the book sometime ago.

Perhaps he threatened the PoW?

----------------

Don't forget, the nearest Anglican church they could have `Lily' where `Lily' could be christened is less than 2 miles away from Riven Rock Road, at All Saints by the Sea, Montecito.

In case of emergency, if a child is at the point of death, s/he can be baptised by a lay person, as long as water and the Trinitarian formula (`In the name of the Father...) are used. Or Welby would probably be delighted to pop in and do the honours.

They have no excuse. Think of the carbon dioxide a local `do' would save ...
Why do I get a mental picture of a cockroach typing this memoir, even if he has to jump on the shift key?

It'll be Mehitabel dictating it, for sure, the cockroach banging the keys with his head.

Another reason why their son's called `Archie' (Archy)?
@Happy Days
re cockroaches -

I think we had almost the same thought simultaneously, tho' Mehitabel was an alley cat.

Very appropriate!
The headline in The Independent is priceless:

‘You’ve got to be f***ing joking’: How the world reacted to news of Prince Harry’s memoir

Ava C said…
I don't think anyone's brought this up but I may be wrong. Apologies if so.

When Harry says 'the proceeds' will go to charity, does that include the £20M advance? Proceeds to my mind means sales, in which case, once the £20M has been covered, the greatest beneficiaries could be H and his creature themselves as there won't be that much left over. Unless it's a runaway hit. Which it won't be as The Bench showed. Everyone else will just read the wall-to-wall coverage in the media.

Even if it DID all go to charity, we know it would be Archewell. See how jaded everyone is on social media about that. No one believes it's really a charity, in the way normal people expect it to be.

Also - given H reportedly had to rush to tell his poor relatives, was the timing of this unexpected to the Sussexes? If so, is it possible the christening story was real? That they were going to try to get that in the bag before the book story came out? Or at least get it moved further on so they could use a definite refusal for their victim narrative? Now, with the book story out already, I don't see the BRF engaging with the Sussexes on anything.

Lady C said BEFORE the book news burst, that Prince Charles was as close to a breakdown as you can be without actually having one. So how will he be now? I know the term 'breakdown' is no longer supposed to be used, but I saw it happen in a close relative and that's what it was. Completely ceasing to function. Unreachable. The slightest improvements took months.
LavenderLady said…
Harry's memoir will cause 'further damage' to his family https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9803929/Prince-Harrys-memoir-cause-damage-relationship-family.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead
____
I've been saying this since day before yesterday. Maybe DM needs to put me on their payroll.

Article says Spare (and TBW) will be a major threat to the monarchy as an institution. Well, who knew?...
SirStinxAlot said…
IMO, the only reasons H$M want Lili christened at Windsor:
A) Reconfirms them as royals B) Gives M the opportunity to try and manipulate the Queen and Charles C) Photo-op and Footage for their documentaries D) Gives them opportunity to squeeze information about bully investigation E) Try to negotiate a better deal than H did at Sandringham summit.

I bet HMTQ now understands why the Queen Mother had to completely cut of the D&D of Windsor.Im not convinced the garden tea at Frogcott actually happened with the Queen, jmo. I think they are being grey rocked all the way at this point. No road home, I hope.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Have one or two on me 🍸🍹. Cheers!
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