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Questions, Questions and more Questions

 It feels like things have been quiet.  

Sure we hear of this bit of news that they are doing this.  Or have done that (not always with pictures which then begs the question: did it really happen?).  Or read that one of them is about to do something.

So many questions swirl around them.

Why are the exposures and interests appear to be more scattershot than a few general areas to be grouped under?  Consistently meaning the same groups or group types.

Why does the clothing still not seem to match the season they are in?  Are they still able to find people willing to offer stuff or are they running out of designers?  Or are they just not checking the weather?

What is happening with Spotify?  

Or Netflix?  

Or what do you think will happen as The Crown edges closer to current events?

Where are all the power hires who were to lead or guide them in some of the proposed projects?  

What if they left the Montecito house?  Where in California be a better or more visible place for their interests?  Or would New York beckon?  The City is always a flashy albeit expensive draw but many power people live in Westchester, Katonah (HRC), Greenwich, Westport (Martha although is now more in Bedford I think but could be wrong) and commute.  Sometimes there is even a pied-a-terre in the City. Old money.  Company head movers and shakers.  Brokerage money.  Serious money.

What about politics?  Is that realistic meaning there could be some support for it to start?  If politics was in the future, wouldn't that bring additional security risks? Would that be safe for any of them?  

Which brings the kids to mind.  Will there be any more kid sightings any time soon?  Valentine crayon glued on candy heart?  Easter looking for hidden eggs?  

Or expand the past influencer blogger life?  Where might that go now?  The field is way more crowded than it used to be five years ago.  New people are always flocking in daily.  Will there be enough interest to sustain past the initial flurry because it is revived?

It feels like things have been quiet.  Is it because energy is running down?  Or the money stream?  Or is it a conservation of energy because they are about to announce big things - something/bring things on line/meet all their contract obligations?  

What are your thoughts?


Comments

Enbrethiliel said…
@Maisie

Thanks for the link! I'm actually learning Russian at the moment, and now that I've seen that video by Conner Clyne, I think I'll be getting a bunch of recommendations with content about Eastern European dating for a while! I mean, why else would anyone want to learn Russian, right? ;-P

This twist in Bey's story is interesting. You'd think that having actually landed a rich and apparently generous husband, she would have been content to rest on her laurels. But she wanted to be an entrepreneur as well, on a very visible platform. And that decision has opened up the can of worms that is her past.

Clyne seems to be implying that this taints everything Bey has to say. While I agree that it's always best to take YouTubers' advice with a grain of salt, I think this raises the general question: Can a former yacht girl ever truly reform?

Even those of us who believe that * was a yacht girl, too, don't really dwell on that much. We judge her by what she is doing now. IF that supposed past has any bearing in the present, it is in the transfer of behaviors. On a yacht party, a woman sees all other women as competition and learns to be cutthroat with them; she constantly shucks and jives for attention; she hides any negative thoughts or feelings for fear of being a buzzkill; she reinvents herself depending on the desires of the highest bidder; she sets herself apart by wearing expensive designer items (or close fakes); she becomes experienced in using her body to get what she wants because sex is the highest form of currency a woman has in that environment. Aren't these behaviors we have seen in *, despite the dramatic change in her circumstances?

I think that Bey is practically a Nobel laureate compared to *. She dresses elegantly and respectfully, shows long-term commitment to her projects, and stays in her lane when it comes to politics or other big issues.
Magatha Mistie said…

Thursday Singalong 🎀
Apologies:Jungle Book
I Wan’na Be like You

Alley Scats

She’s the kween of the sinners
SoHo devotee
She reached the top
with her backflip flop
And worked on bended knee
She took her soft manchild
back to Tinsel Town
Manhood lost, balls were tossed
She’s tired of Juggling Clown

Oh, Scoobie Doo
You know it’s true
She want’s to look like Kate
Be like Kate
More like Kate’s number two
Scooper Poo

She lied and chide’ manchild
And formed a folie a deux
What she desired
was red heads Sire
To offer up his Crown
Using manchild’ weakness
She knew just what to do
Took the power
as daft lads Flower
Then screwed him over too

Oh, Whoop de Doo
Scoobie Doo
Scooper Poo
It’s true
They want to be
just like the Cambridge Two…

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abbyh said…
Great idea JennS

Thanks for the suggestion.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

I know, I chose to ignore,
otherwise an uncivil war
of words!

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Roger that…
aka madams yacht handleπŸ˜‰

SwampWoman said…
Good early morning, Magatha! Loved Alley Scats!
Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie

Cheers, my version of scatting😳

Jolly Roger has a new meaning...
Magatha Mistie said…

Hahaha,
nothing jolly about Rogering Rache!

Magatha Mistie said…


de Barkles

Rogering Rache
And Haz she calls ‘H’
All bark and no bite
Ill met by moonlight
His bit in her teeth
Has caused nothing but grief




SwampWoman said…
How is life treating you in Oz lately, Magatha? There are a LOT of divorces being filed here (grin). We're being run over by a tidal wave of folk fleeing their states but they are bringing their problems with them.
Miggy said…
@Magatha, Re: Alley Scats

OMG... my poor neighbours, I hope they didn't hear me singing along! πŸ˜„

Even my dog ran into the other room to spare her eardrums! πŸ˜…

SwampWoman said…
Dawn has broken, roosters are crowing, time to get to work. Y'all be good; I've got to plant ahead of the rain.
Miggy said…
Lost Beyond Pluto

Ask a Lawyer: Can Spotify & Netflix Sue Meghan Markle & Harry For Breach of Contract? (Quick Takes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sQ66mavFj4
Magatha Mistie said…

@Miggy

Ah, raise the roof,
or madams wig!!
I thoroughly enjoyed “Alley Scats”😜
Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie

All good here apart from
the deplorable weather,
and the tidal wave of
Hollywood refugees!
Good luck with your planting,
how low will the hoe go πŸ₯΄

snarkyatherbest said…
so Prince Charles,Duchess of orneall andDuchess of Cambridge did a joint visit today. from twitter :

A rare joint engagement today for Prince Charles and Camilla with the Duchess of Cambridge to visit @PrincesFound training site at Trinity Buoy Wharf. Kate was invited by Charles because of their “shared interest and longstanding support of the arts and creative industries.”

wait. i thought it was he and Mrs Dollar who shared the love of art and culture. well at least that is what the PR stories said πŸ˜‰. someone must be pissed today.

πŸ˜‰
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest

That quote made me raise my eyebrows, too! I wonder if this was deliberate shade or an innocent explanation that just happened to hit a bull's eye . . .
`Longstanding' support is surely the key.
Maneki Neko said…
Don't expect any more bombshells from Harry! Prince is 'laying low' for now because he 'doesn't want to cause any more upset' after realising 'the toll the past year had on the Queen', royal expert claims

That's a new one for him, lying low. I'm not sure * is completely happy with this decision. He prepares, however, 'to discuss 'personal stories and challenges' in his first appearance of the year at a virtual summit tomorrow'. So is this lying low? I wonder what new revelations we'll hear.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10469371/Prince-Harry-laying-low-doesnt-want-cause-upset-royal-expert-claims.html
snarkyatherbest said…
it’s does makes me wonder if the press releases and dates are in the press but with an embargo out them until the day of the event (likely for security purposes) and she already saw the release (or scoobie do did and let her know it). i would rather like to think the brf people are throwing shade. it does make one wonder where the leaks are. this certainly can’t be eugiene.
Mel said…
Anyone think Mm might be having a huge bonfire out back?

Burning all of H's rugby paraphernalia and a bunch of artwork?
Elsbeth1847 said…

Lying low to not cause upset?

I read that and thought that he had been told off and that if he continued he might not be allowed to show for Jubilee.

snarkyatherbest said…
Elsbeth. i agree i think he was told no shenanigans or no jubilee. or maybe he has his crayons out furiously trying to write his memoirs. probably telling the wife. stop nagging this is hard. .
Enbrethiliel said…
Re: 'laying low' for now because he 'doesn't want to cause any more upset'

Dare we hope that this is a true sign of remorse and self-reflection?
Mel said…
Dare we hope that this is a true sign of remorse and self-reflection?
------

No.
Miggy said…
Lady C is teasing that she has some tea about H's memoir.
She says that his ghost writer is very capable and clever and might actually enhance H's reputation in the short term.
She also claims the book will be a pity party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiZjaVXjWE
Miggy said…
Is anyone across the pond planning to watch/listen to H's Better Up speech?

Starts soon, I believe.
Maneki Neko said…
@Enbrethiliel

Dare we hope that this is a true sign of remorse and self-reflection?
-------

Remorse, possibly, self-reflection, I'm not so sure. It also depends on what his master is whispering in his ear.
snarkyatherbest said…
Miggy. i read a post on tumble that you need to register with butter up for the panel discussion. email and other personal info. as much as i am interested i’m gonna pass.
Miggy said…
@Snarky,

Oh! It was mentioned by someone who has a new Youtube channel but I didn't realise that you had to register to listen.
I was kind of hoping that someone would take one for the team! πŸ˜‰
The Cat's Meow said…
Re: "laying low" due to possible remorse...

If this is the case it is certainly remorse that their plans haven't succeeded and that they have burnt their brand as well as whatever influence they might have had.

Any remorse is due to loss of earnings and opportunities -- not due to any real personal empathy for Her Maj.
Elsbeth1847 said…

Spotify - a tech friend pointed out to me that people forget that although Spotify started with offering music, they are not only some source for music. They are technically a tech platform which is now making much more money offering podcasts than people are using it for music.

Didn't know but I think of that now when I read of some musician getting all twisted about how crappy their deal is and yet others are being offered all kinds of big deals.
Este said…
Harry didn't a fig about what they were doing to HIS family, while grandpa was dying no less. He didn't care to meet his father in law either. He's just a selfish scumbag, IMO, and there's no coming back from the treachery. The only reason those two would ever be "laying low" is if they figured out they can't make bank on making a stink. Whether or not his "memoir" is written by a pro, the damage is done and there ain't no going back. This is the long slide to pop culture irrelevancy, no "take over" Beyonce style, by THE power couple, LMAO!
Hikari said…
I’m with Este…Harry is not capable of remorse or Self-reflection. These are two elements of repentance, with 2 more: a sincere acknowledgment of all the pain one’s actions have inflicted on innocent parties, coupled with an equally sincere and stated intention to not reoffend. We are human and of course we fail. But to behave in such a consistently injurious manner and purposely aim to hurt and cause strife—there is no character turnaround coming for H. And certainly not for the wife. If they are laying low it’s because they are plotting some fresh outrage. The Queen’s ascension day is still 3 days off. Do we really suppose the Sussexes Will keep a respectful silence on the saddest day of the Queen’s year?

Not bloody likely.

Given H’s behavior on the 2 prior solo occasions he was included in events, and the couple’s truly putrid display at the Commonwealth service the last time they were there as a couple, I fail to see how the Harkles will be allowed to attend the Jubilee. Or as some hapless souvenir vendors have it, The Platinum Jubbly. I have just hit up on a solution however—The Sussexes can be invited to a special slate of events just for them—The Tinfoil Jubbly. A balcony can be mocked up for them down the Mall from BP and they can stand next to a cardboard cutout of HMTQ and wave all they want to Scoobie Dud and their own photosycophants.
@ Hikari, I too am bracing myself for something really nasty from the H$Ms on the 6th
Magatha Mistie said…

Lese Majeste

Low down wazzer
has paused and reflected
Only because
he was royally rejected
Suddenly sorry
for our dear Queen
That yacht has sailed
for meh and hazbeen

snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari- well there is a prop where Biden goes for press announcements so why not a fake balcony for the dollars

Just saw a post on another social media site with a pic of mr dollar. Looking a bit rough and very thinning hair in the front/top and definitely not joyful. Hmmm paradise not so happy these days?
Miggy said…
Harry's woke guide to business: Duke tells firms they should 'give everyone time to focus on themselves', claims he suffered 'burn out' and says 'bad stuff' is 'lessons from the universe' (in toe-curling lecture from his $14m mansion)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10473235/Prince-Harry-appears-virtual-summit-employer-mental-health-start-Better-Up.html
SwampWoman said…
Yep, I agree with 'bad stuff' being 'lessons from the universe'. (Cause and effect.)
Miggy said…
His eyes are glazed. πŸ‘€
Anonymous said…
I don’t believe either of them is capable of true remorse. I can see them retreating from their PR offensive against the family in order to secure an invitation to the Jubilee events in June, but I hope it doesn’t work. The thought of seeing them sitting in Westminster with the rest of the royals make me sick.
Midge said…
@Miggy
Very articulate, isn't he! And people actually paid to hear this.
Miggy said…
Really looking forward the Body Language Guy's take on this.
He's already studying the clips! πŸ˜„
DesignDoctor said…
I'm with you Rebecca the thought of seeing them in Westminster makes me sick.
Also, I do not think feeling remorse or making sincere apologies is in the emotional intelligence toolbox of either one.
The word salad-he spouted today is so unrealistic for most working adults so out of touch with the real world!!
Miggy said…
I can't see them being invited to take part in any of the Queen's Jubilee celebrations.
Behind the scenes privately with family possibly... but out front with the rest of them??

They've caused far too much damage and the British public would be disgusted if the showed their faces!

xxxxx said…
You saw Hapless Harry today. This was similar to what the Duo submitted to Spotty. Spotty rejected it. So now the news is that Spotty has sent in producers and editors in an attempt to get something marketable out of them.

Hapless was decent enough as Prince. He should have stuck to it. As all around know it all and advice guru, he sucks.
Miggy said…
I've seen Hapless Harry today as I've never seen him before... courtesy of JesΓΊs Enrique Rosas' Twitter timeline. Hilarious! πŸ˜‚

https://twitter.com/Knesix
Museumstop said…
@Miggy
And as for the flapping arms/hands... he looks like he's about to take off! (if he wants to do a real job - I would suggest aircraft marshalling!)

Oh my gosh, you had me burst out laughing, that was good. This comment in the DM is gold too.

‘Netflix must be longing for a Neil Young moment.’

Seriously, what gobbledygook is this man speaking.
Hikari said…
This video is a month old but I just found it and had to share. Is anyone familiar with vlogger PDina?

This is very astute—She deconstructs the Happy Holidays Happy Family card.

Btw, she is black. She does not worship at the filthy sandals of the Kween of Montecito.

The Sad Truth behind the Christmas Card.
https://youtu.be/9JAE1F5I2nk
Fifi LaRue said…
@Miggy: Thanks for posting the link to Twit's talk.

I don't believe one word he said. If he was really walking his talk, he would not be so utterly and completely abusive to each and everyone in his family. His words do not match his public actions.
Twit has proven over and over again that he's a vile viper, not above abusing his dying grandfather, and grieving grandmother. He is vile, vile, vile.

He suffered from burnout? Burnout from what? A few appearances a week, then back to his castle, ponies, liquors, and party time? That hard life he ran away from? Geezus!

I also don't believe that Serena and Twit talk for hours at a time. It's a PR set up. Lies.

It is also not believable that Better Up is valued at $3 billion. More lies.

As a wise friend of mine used to say, "Don't believe everything you hear, and only half of what you see."
Fifi LaRue said…
One more: Twit saying that he meditates when one kid goes to school, and the other takes a nap. That's a far far cry from his statement about Lilly as a newborn: "She just sits there and chills." Yeah. Mrs. must have kicked his a$$ hard for that stupid statement.
Mel said…
Now he's being like her....looks vastly different from one time to the next. This one you kinda wonder if it was the real him.
Enbrethiliel said…
Re: Duke tells firms they should 'give everyone time to focus on themselves'

While I agree in principle and have had many reasons over the years to find some employers unreasonable (mine and those of friends and family), Harry's preaching to them has only put me on their side. Barring Amazon-level policies, employers have actual experience with gritty, day-to-day business; they may make mistakes, but they have (even if only indirectly) bear the consequences of those mistakes. They should be held to account by their employees -- NOT someone who has never really worked a day in his life.

Thanks, but no thanks, Harry. I don't need your spoiled, soft self championing me with your wife's word salad.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Miggy
Spouts nothing but his wife's word salad and is even copying her 'right?' at the end of his sentence.

Like @Mel, I have to ask: Are we even sure it's really Harry at this point?

There is some really good "deep fake" technology out there these days. Look up "deep fake Tom Cruise" for the Tiktok video that went viral. I'm sure * would vastly prefer puppeteering him this way to making him memorize a script that he delivers with worse acting skills than her own.

In all seriousness, I do think that that was Harry. And not just because a voice actor and a visual effects tech doing a deep fake would have made sure their "Harry" had more charisma. The Harry of the video is consistent with the downward-spiraling, wife-controlled sad sack we have been watching for the last few years. I really don't know how he can stand to look at himself in the mirror.

PS -- Thanks for telling us about The Body Language Guy's Twitter! I'm not on that platform any longer, but now I see what I've been missing. His memes and RTs are just as funny as his videos!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Fifi LaRue
I also don't believe that Serena and Twit talk for hours at a time. It's a PR set up. Lies.

Do you think that Serena agreed to back up the lie or that it's all one-sided and Serena is not happy about being used?

Whenever something like this comes out, I look back fondly to when Priyanka Chopra personally debunked the story about her visiting "Archie" after his "birth." I'm not a fan of hers at all, but I appreciate it when someone calls out *'s BS. Priyanka even put the word "source" in quotation marks in her tweet!

Serena may have more to lose than Priyanka, especially if her husband has a project with *, so she herself might not do something like that. But one can dream!
Hikari said…
Found this in the comment section in response to a video in which a man shared his experience of being “bread-crumbed” by a Narcissist…the broken promises, ghosting, only to be groomed and flattered again when the Narc wanted to play him like a yo-yo..the false flattery while his ideas were appropriated…due to his relating of this story being really vague, I didn’t copy it here but this response was prime. Totally how TBW operates.

********************

πŸ’” OMG, Jeff, THIS. My heart is beginning to pound. I had an experience of this with someone that I happened to be extremely attracted to. Plans would be made that I looked forward to, then cancelled or forgotten by this person at the last minute, apologies spoken in seeming utmost sincerity, then the breadcrumbs thrown my direction once again for re-connection, which I would always fall for because of my attraction. What complicated my situation, which entangled me further, was the activation of something deeper for me, which I had no understanding of at the time... my abandonment wound. oh boy. I began the most extreme emotional roller coaster ride of my life‼ Abandonment wound in relationship with an extremely attractive narcissist. I'm still in recovery and in constant protective gear regarding this whole dynamic. What I found is that these people need to be revered, and they "collect" people, the more the merrier, to feed their fragile ego. Then the juggling act begins of keeping EVERYbody attracted to them with the breadcrumbing. I sincerely attempted to love this person and offer opportunities of authenticity, as it pained me that their relationships were so disconnected and shallow. Constantly driven by the idea that if I could just do it right...this person would remain and grow with me in my life. I sincerely wanted to offer and receive the real thing. I finally had to end it cold turkey with the realization that, no matter how much I loved this person, I would never be enough.πŸ’” https://youtu.be/Gi8dTDuRCOk
xxxxx said…
Dringo, Redhill, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

There is nothing like someone who has never run a real business telling business owners how to do it.
.................
Alex, homesweethome, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago

Every employer should pay their staff to take time off for navel gazing and meditation especially before they have a two hour lunch and return for their tea break. Mondays should automatically be duvet days as many employees suffer burnout after burning the candle at both ends during the weekend. Quotas and deadlines should be a thing of the past as its simply not fair to put pressure on people who simply want to turn up and do their job. Friday should definitely be pyjama day because its important to be in the right frame of mind for the weekend activities and a few beers and some tacos in the staff canteen would not go amiss. The boss must make themselves available to listen to every employee even if they themselves are trying to hold down a business while raising a family and taking care of elderly parents, not to mention worrying about productivity and profit so badly needed in order to make sure that their employees never feel any pressure.

.........................

RememberMe88, Harrogate, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago

He is not in the real world. This from a man who has never held down a proper job and had people to shine his shoes. As for Serena Williams stating the Duke acts as a life coach for her, that gave me such a laugh!
Teasmade said…
I'm sure they won't miss me, but I have no respect for either BetterUp nor Serena Williams.

Surely it's not just confirmation bias, but I've seen nothing but derision for this ridiculous performance. Is ANYONE buying it??
Miggy said…
@Museumstop, Yes... that Neil Young comment was priceless! 😁

**********

@Fifi LaRue said: I don't believe one word he said. Does anyone? πŸ˜„

**********

@Enbre, I left Twitter many, many years ago. However, it's easy to read a timeline.
All you have to do is write @ and then the person's twitter handle in your browser bar and it takes you to their page. eg: @Knesix (The Body Language Guy)
I'm not sure how it works if you're using a phone but on my laptop I also have to jump through one more hurdle if I want to keep scrolling and reading, but it's not difficult.

**********

Finally, @abbyh Can you please tell me why my post in reply to Midge @ 1:57 was removed? TIA
Miggy said…
@Hikari,

I agree, PDina is an excellent vlogger!
She's also done one or two videos together with Lady C.
Girl with a Hat said…
the comment is gone now, but in Trevor Coult's Horrible Harry video yesterday, someone wrote about how the officers who served with Harry in the military were talking about him at a dinner and were saying that he had serious behavioural and attitude problems and that he would have a horrible life and be miserable if he didn't change.

In the video by Trevor, Trevor says that Harry is the only man he knows who got out of the military without having made any friends there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR6U7-hwruE&t=137s
Enbrethiliel said…
@GWAH
Harry is the only man he knows who got out of the military without having made any friends there.

This is really damning. A lot of retired military personnel are still friends for life with the people they served with. Maybe not with everyone in their units, but definitely with at least one or two. My grandfather was a career officer and he had so many long-term friendships. Men he had known in the academy went to his funeral -- or if they had died first, their widows went for them. I know that Harry is only reaping what he himself sowed, but this is still incredibly sad and lonely.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Enbrethiliel: IMO Serena is making as much money as she can, personal integrity be dam*ed. Serena got paid a lot of money to swallow hard, and spew nonsense. Or maybe it's something to do with her husband's business affairs. The only thing that's obvious is that Serena taking coaching from Twit is patently false. If I was Serena, I'd be very angry at my husband for putting me in a position to support a twit and, by extension, the wife. Harry the Loser coaching someone else on life skills? LOL!! What is the Loser good at? Lighting and smoking joints, drinking to excess, playing video games, trashing his family, and, nothing else.
Teasmade said…
@Hikari,

I "watched" the Oprah interview as interpreted by PDina. That is, SHE was watching it, and would let it play a bit, then stop the film and discuss. I couldn't have seen any of it had I had to take it "straight."

At the time, I think River was getting more attention on here (thankfully, died way down) but I know I mentioned her then. She's so calm and sensible!

Highly recommended!
snarkyatherbest said…
what is interesting usually when people give these talks they bring in personal stories and how they came to the solution. so Mr dollar tell us more about specific instances when you were in the army or when you were “working” to at least get an idea of how you came up with quit your job and meditate. at least with serena she has had to deal with how to keep winning especially after giving birth to her daughter (serena had a bunch of weight gain and medical issues) dealing wi the an over bearing father or some of the racism she encountered in her sport. on the same point though she did have a team of trainers and coaches to help her identify and real with issues whether she listened to them or not maybe another story. both prob got paid for their appearance or have some equity but given how successful other competitors were and where the stock market is right now. i’m thinking butter up is getting markled
Enbrethiliel said…
@Fifi
IMO Serena is making as much money as she can, personal integrity be dam*ed. Serena got paid a lot of money to swallow hard, and spew nonsense. Or maybe it's something to do with her husband's business affairs.

I don't know much about Serena Williams. If she has a history of taking money even from people she can't stand, just because it's a good deal, well, that's her call. But this is the kind of thing that bites one in the butt later on.

The only thing that's obvious is that Serena taking coaching from Twit is patently false.

And I see that they gave her the most insane lie to tell, too. Does anyone in the world believe this? I'd wager that even the most dedicated sugars would find it hard to swallow. It may be easy money for her, but she may end up "paying" more for it in the long run.
Hikari said…
The Royal family really did a top notch spot and polish job to turn their sociopathic abusive little turd into Hero Hazza, Lover of children, freedom fighter and Everyone’s Best Mate. The more we find out about what Hazzard is really like, the worse it gets.

I don’t know to what degree H is or ever was capable of reforming his character and his knee jerk reactions to things. He seems profoundly psychologically and emotionally damaged, in ways that predate the loss of his mum,if he was already exhibiting deviant behavior and intellectual/emotional delays as a child. It’s impossible now to untangle how his natural personality might have developed with early intervention and accountability rather than the cosseted privileged bubble that has shielded him from both the consequences of his poor behavior and also shielded H from having to learn self-awareness as to the actual limitations facing him in his birth role and his own native abilities. There is a reason such an upbringing as this is referred to as “spoiling a child”. Harry is spoilt indeed, like curdled milk. A now adult man who can no longer milk the cheeky ginger moppet role. 37 years old and literally good for nothing, no useful purpose at all.

He isn’t just an entitled and clueless tool … he is that of course but I think he has got very significant deficits in his intellectual and emotional capacities which were not addressed when he was a child and young teen and have now calcified, immovable. He is not going to change because he can’t. Doesn’t want to, but he doesn’t feel things the way a normal person would. His wife has found her perfect patsy and partner in crime. Haz is a weak mind so I have wondered more than once if one of the tricks in *’s arsenal of mind control is some form of hypnotic suggestion. I’ve never been a proponent of that before but I’m not susceptible. Haz very well might be which would explain the seeming lack of agency he exhibits in many of his wife’s video projects. He agreed to juggling his balls out in the yard and in all other senses being subservient to her at all times. This is not how H ever acted with anyone else in his life, even his Queen. But * has him jumping through all her hoops a treat.

I think H’s family was terrified of what exactly has come to pass—removed from all the protective supports of the Royal machine and completely isolated by his handler, H is imploding and revealing himself to be the village idiot they always knew he was. He is very very damaged, mad as a box of frogs probably. Devoid of any executive functions skills both by nature and nurture. It is a marvel he mastered toilet training, I think. Even pictures of young Harry 3, 6, 11, depict a visibly unhappy and disturbing child, in hindsight. He needed special intervention and likely residential treatment which he never received. Instead the RF resolved to keep H’s condition strictly in house and carry on with the fiction that there were no differences between him and William. He swallowed that legend along with the public. Fact is, H is not the full quid and never has been. Does he even have the full capacity to understand what he is doing? I put his mental age at 12. No court in the land would say a 12 year old with cognitive and emotional deficits can exhibit mens rea…intent. I’m not sure H even now fully comprehends that his actions have permanent consequences. With every zoned out robotic word salad spinning performance he gives, it’s like he is an avatar in a video game, not a fully cognizant presence with awareness.

Hikari said…

It is a mess. How will this toxic Shakespearean saga end? Does H after all deserve all the loathing and approbation pouring down or are we and HM’s Army actually piling on a mentally compromised man with a double digit IQ and a mental age of a 12 year old? I have no idea. If this is true, I can at least feel some sympathy for H. He’s making it really hard but it would explain a lot about his otherwise incomprehensible actions in blowing up his life. His family let him go off and pretend to be a big shot in America, when he really needed to be kept at Wood Farm with a full time carer. Were they all just weary of caring for and covering for him? 35, 36 years of that would wear anyone out.
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest
so Mr dollar tell us more about specific instances when you were in the army or when you were “working” to at least get an idea of how you came up with quit your job and meditate.

I am sure Trevor Coult and a lot of other British veterans would absolutely love it if Harry started telling stories about his time in the military. The BRF may be sticking to its unwritten "never complain, never explain" policy, but everyone else who knows the truth about Harry must be champing at the bit for him to slip up in an interview.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari

Harry always gave me a creepy vibe, even when he was a baby.

He reminds me of Lenny from Mice and Men, but without the good heart.
Teasmade said…
@Hikari: You really have said it all -- the final word. Excellent job. Worthy of Piers Morgan : )

But I'll pile on: he's unattractive too.The beady eyes, the rough hair . . .well, that's all, really. It's gotten so that I have to scroll away when he pops up on Twitter.

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On another topic: how much MORE money could Serena Williams need? There must be some other reason for her to participate in this ridiculous show, being beholden to her publicists or agents. Or something.

Girl with a Hat said…
@Teasmade,

Serena is probably trying to get some stock options before the IPO for BetterUp. Usually, the price of the shares jumps and then settles down if the company is not considered viable, but it's really rare for the prices to tank right after an IPO
Miggy said…
MENTAL WEALTH Prince Harry we can see through your ‘mental windscreen’ gibberish – it’s just a cynical money grab, says Piers Morgan.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17548851/piers-morgan-prince-harry-shut-up-mental/
SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, masterful summing up of the defects in Harry's personality. I will go out thin ice here and opine that the fractured relationship between Charles and Diana may have kept him from getting the help he needed as a young child. (Sadly, I've seen too many cases where parents ignored obvious problems or, worse, blamed it on the poor parenting skills of the other partner.) Diana, with her unstable family life, may not have even recognized that there was anything wrong with him. Defects of character/mentation may have been attributed to "acting out" as children are wont to do in reaction to stressful situations. Then Diana was killed in that preventable accident.

Had Diana and Charles not been in an adversarial relationship in which Diana was determined to overshadow him, do you think that there may have been a better outcome for Harry?
Hikari said…
@Teasmade

After William, it must have been a shock to Diana to have such an unattractive baby. At his christening, age 4 months or thereabouts, he resembles a squat orange toad wearing a white christening dress in the arms of his mother. Diana made herself her secondborn’s champion from the moment Charles uttered those disparaging words about H at birth. Maybe Chas wishes he could take back those words—he was never an attractive baby or any age really himself and the red hair aside, He’s most unattractive features are all Mountbatten. For two attractive people, the Queen and Philip had a batch of unattractive children. Youth conferred some attractiveness for a while but the Windsors age badly and are dowdy by the time they round 30.

Harry did improve for a brief while. He was cute from about 12 months to 5 or so. Maybe he’s on the autism spectrum? As a toddler and preschooler I thought he was more appealing than “Basher” had been, but round about 7 or 8 H entered an awkward period from which he wouldn’t really emerge. Around 10 years ago when he was still “on active service” he had a rambunctious appeal. At any rate he seemed healthier than he does now. The decline even since his wedding is precipitous.

His role as Spare was always going to be challenging but the Queen’s father was about H’s age when he suddenly had the crown thrust upon him. Until then, he made a meaningful life as Spare dispute extreme challenges too. Harry has never been able to pull his socks up but such a wastrel existence was not his destiny as Spare save for his dearth of character. The Royals could have gotten him the very best psychiatric care available and maybe channeled him in a useful direction. Was it the shame of a prince being defective that compelled them to pretend that Haz had the stuff to follow William to Eton, military service and a well rounded functional marriage? They were engaging in fantastical thinking and avoidance for 33 years where H was concerned and now we see the results. Is he a colossal ***hat? Sure. But they themselves have created this abs the turned their least functional member loose and cast him out of the fold in the hands of a malignant Narc. They had ample warning that the current situation was coming though it must be even worse than they or anyone dreamt possible. Myself, I thought Madam would stay 3 ~5 years in the RF and then shove off with a hefty divorce settlement.

I think they are resigned to sacrificing H and I can’t say that I blame them. They lost the chance to fix him and set him on a different path when his bio age matched his mental one,
Girl with a Hat said…

cdan blind about "the ginger one".

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2022/02/blind-item-10_0893619375.html#disqus_thread
Teasmade said…
@Hikari, Didn't Charles say something like, "aw, he's got red hair!" or something?

I know how things said by spouses can be interpreted in the worst way and never forgotten (esp. right after childbirth!) but that's not THAT terrible is it? Most of Diana's family is ginger or ginger-adjacent after all.

It pains me to read that, as he ages, H looks more like Prince Philip, who I think was among the best looking of that generation. But he might account for the small eyes?

But you are certainly correct about the family's basic attractiveness. Catherine and Diana were beneficial additions in improving the stock lines. (Or is it too soon to tell?)

Yes, this is all superficial and I apologize. But there's plenty of outrage elsewhere today about that ridiculous broadcast, by better writers to boot.
LavenderLady said…
As much as find Harry to be a total pain in the arse and just a plethora of unsavory traits, I will give him this: he was a really cute baby and a cute kid in a impish sort of way.

IMO all babies are beautiful; I see them as gifts of God and are certainly made in His image. Meaning Pure Love.

Just saying...
snarkyatherbest said…
Girl With the Hat - agreed except right now, IPOs are not doing well (in fact almost non-existent in the last month) and its direct competitor, who most investors will look at in comparison, is Talk Space - merged and went public with a SPAC , priced in the $9 range (not a good range since usually small cap targets are $12-$15 per share) and is now trading at the dreaded under $2 per share. And the SPAC sponsors just took over in November because of dismal performance. ButterUp would be better off waiting (and we know the dollars cant wait) and trying again in a year or selling to someone like Teledoc or other online providers of health services. Personally I think ButterUp will end up Markled
Fifi LaRue said…
Adding to the above, Hazzmat's emotional age is about 8 years, and never going to get better than that. Mrs. Dollar has a double bind on her hands: a husband she has no respect for whatsoever due to his mental/emotional/physical/social extreme deficiencies; and, on the other hand, he is completely controllable, and willing to do any and all of her bidding. Even to the most extreme extent of trashing his dying grandfather. Does she keep him drugged up? Does she take him out once in a while, force Hazmat under a shower, and into clean clothes, a shave, haircut, and set him before a camera? Seems so.
Hikari said…
@Swampie,

.That was an apt summation of Diana’s and Charles’ relationship— they both needed to be the “star” and were emotional vampires on the other. She needed a constant Doting Daddy and he requires a Doting Mummy from his primary relationships. Camilla understands this abs Diana, being a pit of neediness herself, never did. They were doomed.

Had Chas and Di been more mature and evenly matched and loving to each other I think they would have been able to discuss both their kids more than they did. It’s not clear that Charles ever spent much time at all en famille. We have got family snaps released to the press but when they weren’t on holiday and posing for photos, how much time was Charles actually with his children? Hus busy schedue, his extracurricular interests including his mistresses, his constant traveling and the whole aristocratic mode of palming ones kids off on nannies and packing them off to boarding school as early as 8 ensures that a father wouldn’t spend that much time really knowing his kids that deeply. Carlos would’ve been raised with the maxim that children we’re best neither heard nor seen until they were presented before bedtime. Neither he nor Diana had good parental role models to go on. Further, the sense that one just got on with things and b*ggered on through less tha ideal situations would have been instilled in Charles. Neither parent had the toolkit to cope with a kid not developing or thriving According to the standard blueprint of their social set. Also Diana would have been highly motivated to push Harry to meet all of William’s milestones given Charles’ lack of enthusiasm for his second son. William belonged to the Crown from birth, but a glittering future for Harry could be her revenge. I’m sure they both hoped that H would conform and succeed if he were set on the same path as his brother.

H is really a tragedy, for his family, his country, himself and for us who have to watch him destroy all the efforts on his behalf. He is a completely lost soul.
Hikari said…
@Teasmade

Charles’ remark about Harry “Oh, it’s a boy…and he’s got ginger hair.” Was the moment, Diana said that something died inside her.

That was a colossally insensitive thing for Charles to have said, particularly right after his wife had just given birth. I won’t excuse him for that callous remark.

But it could be said to have been an expression of shock that slipped out before he had time to compose his words because when he walked into the room he’d been expecting a daughter. Diana had led him to that impression for many months, having lied about the results of the scan which Chas had not been present for. She knew how he had wanted a girl and he was so happy when she was pregnant because he thought he’d get his daughter. Diana future faked a girl so hardcore she was not honest with him until after the fact. If Charles had had tune to get adjusted to the idea of a second son beforehand, I doubt he would have been so cruel. As for the ginger hair crack, It was likely because he knew his new son would be relentlessly teased at boarding school since ginger hair is regarded as a curse on a boy.

Major Hewitt was not in the picture and since Charles had dated Diana’s redheaded sister before I knew that all three of her siblings had red hair, plus it’s existence in his own family tree, I doubt infidelity was at the root of that cr*ppy thing he said. Revisionists happy to attribute that as the reason though.
Teasmade said…
@Hikari: Oh right! I'd forgotten about the "it's a boy" part. Of course that must have been the greater "disappointment". And I see your point about the teasing. I'm sure he wanted to spare the boy pain, even if he turned out to not be a hands-on father by our standards.

I'm neutral re Diana, but I never believed it was Hewitt's baby.
Hikari said…
Charles tried to make amends maybe..Harry’s full name is Henry Charles Albert David.

Apparently he lobbied for his grandfather’s name as the first name but Diana vetoed Albert as a first name. Good thing or else Harry would have been Bertie. Maybe Haz wishes they had picked Archie? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Charles’ heir does not have his name at all…weird, considering he’s the firstborn and future King, no?

Charles chose to honor his father and uncle, reserving the second spot for the rather fanciful Arthur. William is William Arthur Philip Louis.

They should have stayed away from “David” when naming Harry. That turned out to be prescient but not in a good way.
Miggy said…
The Body Language Guy

Harry's BetterUp Body Language EXPOSED His Real Intentions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpK9MZd03fY
Museumstop said…
This has been posted on a tumblr blog. If true, it's chilling, dehumanising behaviour from her. Some bits feel too dramatic to be true, but who knows, she is definitely way crazier BTS.
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I’ve lived and worked in London for years now and have a close knit group of connections. Due to my career and my area of works, I have some interesting information about Meghan that I have heard from aristocratic contacts and famous contacts that I have cultivated through the years.

Meghan is extremely xenophobic and she is homophobic.

She is said to have mocked MarΓ­a, the nanny to the Cambridge children, who is Spanish. My contact on this said that Meghan would use racist accents around MarΓ­a, said that the Cambridge children would end up drug addicts in Mexico, asked MarΓ­a where were her Cubans, when was she going to go marry a billionaire like her Latina sisters do and that being a nanny was the only work MarΓ­a could get, said she would get her deported if she didn’t do what she wanted too, and also would ask her if she was a lesbian and barren to not be married. MarΓ­a de Butch was another nickname.

There was an incident with other foreign staff. There is a staffer of Russian descent that Meghan kept calling the Communist, asking for them to get her vodka and if they’d do a Revolution in England like they did in Russia. Another staffer was of Ghanaian descent and Meghan apparently kept making them repeat everything they said, criticising their English, saying how bad their hair was, that they were nothing compared to her and constantly called them a fat animal, asked if they knew Tarzan.

The homophobic stuff I have heard stunned me. Firstly she would belittle Harry calling him a f*g, fairy, f*ggot, flower, fruity idiot, homo, sissy etc. even in front of friends, and then laughed at him. She was horrible from what I’ve heard, and would even use slurs towards Markus too. She gets worse when drunk. She tried to get some work off of a friend of mine, and literally had a tantrum when my friend refused to gift it and called him every name under the sun.

A aristocratic connection of mine swears that Meghan said repeatedly that George and Louis were nothing but “little fags, dressing like girls, dancing around” and that Charlotte would be “that dyke on horses” when older. She did the same about Louise and James, but Louise more so calling her an ugly looking dumb lesbian.

Some called her out on that and she spun it back at them. The people around her at those times, some a few times after Archie being born, said that when Meghan was asked “what do you think if it was Archie you were being homophobic about” but Meghan just laughed saying that there would be no way her little boy would ever be some little homo, she was raising him right and good.

Jason did not like working with her. He only did it because of his contract to them. Believe me, he knew exactly how traumatised and broken the Sussex staffers were afterwards. It’s another reason why William hates her, he is very pro LGBTQ+.

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SwampWoman said…
Usually when people are *very* against something, like, for instance, a 'hatred' of homosexuals, it is to cover their own proclivities.
SwampWoman said…
Again, the way she treats black employees as inferior would seem to correspond with how she has covered/removed any black features.
Mel said…
Hard to say if the above is true. Maybe some it, or to a lesser degree.
Unfortunately, it's easy to believe that it's *all* true.
Mm is the Queen of mean girls.

It would certainly explain staffers having PTSD after working for her.
That's the epitome of bullying....any one thing, let alone many of them.

No wonder PW kicked them out of KP.
It would also explain the sudden departure from Tyler Perry's house, which they reportedly wanted to purchase.

Even if a tenth of that is true, she has no business being a royal.
SwampWoman said…
But, of course, we don't know if any of that Tumblr blog re her behavior is accurate.
Mel said…
That was a colossally insensitive thing for Charles to have said, particularly right after his wife had just given birth. 
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Do we know that he actually said that? Any proof beyond Diana saying that's what he said? Any witnesses? I don't remember the details behind that story.

He was a remarkably homely baby. As a toddler it seemed like his character was starting to show, which didn't help his looks. Unfortunately he wasn't reined in.

I think that he could have had a better outcome if his parents had been more focused on his needs. Seems like he could have tremendously benefitted from some early intervention therapy. Too late now?
Girl with a Hat said…
I think it was one of the youtube specialists on narcs, Dr. Ramani, who said that of all the narcs she treated, all of them had been difficult children but not all the people who had been difficult children turned out to be narcs.
SwampWoman said…
Mel said: I think that he could have had a better outcome if his parents had been more focused on his needs. Seems like he could have tremendously benefitted from some early intervention therapy. Too late now?

As a child, I do believe that the parents could have had him in intensive therapy; maybe they did and we are just unaware. It would be much more difficult getting a dysfunctional adult treated if they do not think that there is anything wrong.
Martha said…
He’s an adult! It’s tiresome that his actions now are blamed on his parents.
Fifi LaRue said…
People who have personality disorders, are narcissists, etc., are almost impossible to treat because they are unable to see they have a problem. Even people with extreme low self esteem cannot admit to mistakes they make because it's too painful for them.
Mr. Hazzmat has window of opportunity to turn himself around, start genuinely reflecting, but it has to be done by about age 46, or his behavior will be calcified for life.

As for the Tumblr dirt, IMO the only thing that would be accurate is Twat calling Twit homophobic slurs, but that wouldn't have happened until after they both had signed on the dotted line of the marriage certificate. Up to that point, Mrs. Hazzmat's behavior towards Mr. Hazzmat was 100% attentive in all ways.

Hazzmat's speech for Batter Up is already being excoriated and mocked on social media. It is just unimaginable how/why Serena Williams stooped to such a low depth of self-degradation in stating Hazzmat talks her through all her problems. Absolutely pathetic. No amount of money, or initial stock purchase is worth that embarrassment. Serena's been had, if she's been told, and believes, that Batter Up is worth $3 billion.
snarkyatherbest said…
Serena came from very modest means and had a dad that tried to break the unspoken code on how you go up the tanning ladders, when you get sponsorships and how. she maybe money hungry. she may have had bad financial advice or her clothing line lost money and needs more. maybe hubby’s reddit funds a are off limits. but she does appear to not be satisfied and is money hungry. which is sad. when it’s not enough you will never find peace.
Mel said…
He’s an adult! It’s tiresome that his actions now are blamed on his parents.
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Agree. I'm not blaming the parents, just commenting.

I firmly believe that at some point you own the ball. And H owns the ball 100%.
Just as Mm owns her own ball.

Whatever went wrong with him, it's up to him to fix it now. But I don't think he will.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Snarky: That could be. Serena could also see that her life as a tennis champion is in the glorious past, her shelf life as a celebrity/influencer is limited until the next wonder comes along and replaces her.

There's something off with Serena, nevertheless. Mm jinxing Serena's game, and Mn's basic instinct move on Serena's husband for all the world to see, and now Serena supporting Hazzmat. Does not compute. Although, Serena did look rather miserable in that video; there was no joy, or light.
xxxxx said…
I wonder if Butter Up can fire Harry for malfeasance and sabotage? At any rate, no way are those $4.7 billion valuations true in any useful sense for Butter Up. Which is mostly hype. Harry job is hyping them. Not making people doubt the BU hype.
Hikari said…
@Museumstop

I replied to your post about the various slurs used by * And see That it’s been zapped. There was a certain collection of letters that I used to describe the kind of relationship in the bedroom I think the Harkles practice and I think that’s what triggered censorbot. It doesn’t seem to mind all of the creative ways to refer to a gay person which is interesting.

Madam is notorious for her sailor mouth but some of these slurs sound too quaint to Come from a Hollywood millennial. And growing up in Hollywood, Considering everything she’s done for a buck in her life and with whom, And the crowd she ran with it Soho house, many of whom are of the lavender persuasion including former BFF Markus And his former boyfriend Brit Vogue editor EE…Would Madame really be that down on the gays? How unwoke. I can believe that she would demean darker complexioned staff Considering how much money she’s spent To market herself as Caucasian. Again, what an unwoke hypocrite.

Might she have Tourette’s? Alternatively, such foul and profane language is routinely presented as a feature of demonic possession. She via coarse beyond belief. She attended some of the best schools and knows the language of polite society. She does this for shock value. Well it’s shocking all right… That this marriage was ever permitted to this guttersnipe.
snarkyatherbest said…
serena and mm. well there were rumors when serena came back after having her baby and lost in an early round of i think the french open that it was because she cause the hubby with one of his um friends (friend is openly gay). perhaps mm knows more than we do or has receipts or maybe it’s something. to do with. both hubbies. if she looked joyless she wasn’t doing it willingly
re Charles and Diana both `trying to be the star'. No, Diana tried to upstage him - she was almost like * in forgetting that he had precedence
Enbrethiliel said…
I agree with @Martha that Harry is an adult now and needs to take responsibility for himself. He is in the place where he is now, not because his parents and extended family didn't do the necessary work of raising him well, but because he himself is not doing the necessary work to be a fully functioning, mature adult.

Every time we do a "postmortem" on his childhood and youth (roping in even those of his parents), we imply that there was a point in the past when all of this could have been changed. A fork in the path of time, shall we say. And theoretically, there would have been many forks -- many chances to have averted this. I'm sure his family members were the first to ask these questions . . . and maybe even to blame themselves.

The eventual decision to cut him loose wasn't done out of shame, but out of the realization that the decisions of a 34-year-old man were not their responsibility any longer.

Some of us rolled our eyes when he said of his memoir: "I'm writing this not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become" -- but there was great truth in that statement. Harry had had many advantages of a princely birth and did next to nothing with them. He was the servant who buried his talent and then had even that taken away and given to one who had been more hard-working. (I think of his brother's wife inheriting the first of his lost patronages!) We can't really see him as a prince any longer, but we should see him as a man who has a life of his own making and an appearance after his own character.
Hikari said…
@Embre

While H is to outward appearances an adult, the stories coming out about him since he married the thing point to some really severe dysfunction that seem to go far beyond the usual flaws of laziness and arrogant entitlement. How similar to Uncle Andy—whose “childish obsessions” (teddy bears, eg.) reflect Hazzer’s (video games), along with the winning personality. Both exhibited sociopathic behaviors toward animals and staff. Both have proclivities which have derailed their lives. Andrew does appear to have been capable of holding down a job and even excelling at it, unless his exploits as a pilot in the Falklands have been as greatly exaggerated as Hazza’s soldier-cosplay in the Army. Hazza has been an addict since a young teen, so a substance dependency may have as much to do with retarding his growth into a functional adult as any native learning disabilities he might also possess. How much of his personality disorder was inevitable vs. induced by his addictions it’s impossible to say. His birth into privilege has only enabled him to continue to be a plonker, but placing blame on his parents or the courtiers, etc. is pointless now. The question I was mulling over is to what degree 37 year old Hazzer is ever likely to accept any responsibility for his problems or change how he treats people abs if he’s got the capacity to change, and my conclusion is ‘nil’, sadly.

If I can view his current behavior as being lost to his demons and on some level not having full agency in what he is doing, that allows me to hate him less. I still see the damaged kid with abandonment issues in his current and decidedly repugnant self.

See:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/02/04/gung-ho-harry-gone-replaced-prince-woo-woo/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

Enjoy!
PS Has he had his pubes tranfered to his bonce or did he let his barnet get too close to the meditation candle?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Hikari
The question I was mulling over is to what degree 37 year old Hazzer is ever likely to accept any responsibility for his problems or change how he treats people abs if he’s got the capacity to change, and my conclusion is ‘nil’, sadly.

My conclusion is the same. And I wager that that was the BRF's conclusion as well, which is why they cut him loose and went LC (low contact). We can't help those who won't even help themselves.

Do I think he has full agency? I don't know. He strikes me as low in intelligence and high in entitlement -- not a great combination. My sense is that even if he were separated from * and given all the professional help he needs, he would only remain as stable as the next bad influence who managed to get into his life. That is, I think his problem is "nature" rather than "nurture," and I'm not optimistic about what can still be done, even in the most ideal circumstances, to improve that "nature."
Enbrethiliel said…
Re: "Harry's BetterUp Body Language EXPOSED His Real Intentions" by The Body Language Guy

Mr. Rosas really let Harry have it. I rarely laugh out loud at even stuff that I find funny, but Mr. Rosas's bleeped out cuss early on pulled a well-earned laugh out of me. And then there was the Paolo Coelho joke!

In all seriousness, this video is a savage takedown of Harry's hypocrisy. So much for his Heads Together cred and any true commitment to mental health. Harry was probably on sale to the highest bidder -- and if he indeed cut a deal for equity, then we'll see more and more of him peddling this BS to anyone who will believe him.

I can also see the higher-ups at BetterUp being very upset by this video. It exposes them as opportunists hoping to make money off of other people's mental sufferings.
SwampWoman said…
Hindsight is 20/20. I was curious whether anybody that may be connected to early childhood development really believes that early intervention could have helped ginge given the genetic predisposition to mental health issues from both sides of the family. (He may well have gotten early intervention and it did not.)

Let me hasten to assure y'all that I do not think that psychiatric or psychological counseling is the panacea for all ills. Medication can be helpful but a lot of kids are overmedicated. I hate to think of the effect this use and sometimes overuse of psychoactive drugs has on children's developing brains. I think that putting children into earlier and earlier childhood education and restricting childhood activity and energy is detrimental to their development. I also think that raising children without any boundaries whatsoever on their behavior or consequences for actions results in dysfunctional older children/young adults.

Is ginge responsible for his actions? I *think* he is. If I were to find out that he has the mental age and impulsivity of, say, an 8-year-old child, I would say he needs to be in a protected setting.
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel, you were not alone in laughing thru Mr. Rosas' takedown. I think he felt the same sense of "How DARE you lecture ME. Get back to me when you learn to do something for yourself!" that I feel. I so look forward to the video where the asterisks instruct us how, as employers, they accommodate their employees' need for time to address their self-care issues and we should all do the same.

(Apparently the idea that being an adult means that you suck it up and deal has not yet permeated his reality.)
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
I so look forward to the video where the asterisks instruct us how, as employers, they accommodate their employees' need for time to address their self-care issues and we should all do the same.

If they do that, I await the blind items based on leaks by employees officially under NDAs!

But this reminds me that we haven't heard much about the bullying investigation lately. Other Nutties have wondered whether BP itself wants to sweep it under the carpet (while at least making reparations behind the scenes?), so as not to overshadow the Queen's Jubilee year. If so, it's well intentioned, but it gives the Dollars a whole year of getting to portray themselves as people who care about employees.
Fifi LaRue said…
Just watched TBLG. All the arm flailing by Hazzer. The frenetic energy says that he is someone who's never meditated for five minutes in his entire life. The arm flailing connects to the flailing speech pattern of the fake Greta phone call. IMO it's a symptom of extended cocaine use, either in the past, or continuing on to the present. Hazzer makes Joe Namath look like an Oscar-winning actor in his medicare commercials. Hazzer needs to study Joe Namath to get invaluable acting tips for his next video.
LavenderLady said…
@Miggy,
That BLG vid on Harry the Guru. LOL.

Spare is so full of s#it his eyes are currently brown. I come from a long line of coal miners on my mother's Irish side. My Grandfather died in a coal mining accident. He went into the mines at 13 years old.

I can't even...what a pr!ck.

Thank God for people like Jesus Enrique Rosas.
Hikari said…
Wild Boar

PS Has he had his pubes tranfered to his bonce or did he let his barnet get too close to the meditation candle?

The Mysterious Case of Hazzer's Hair has come up before in discussions. Prior to about age 13, Harry's hair was, I would say, strawberry blond and while it may have been thick, it was pretty stick straight as to texture. It was probably rigorously combed with water or whatever, but the 'scorched public hair' texture appeared quite literally out of the blue starting at 14 or so. *Completely* different texture, and though it's not unusual for kids' hair to darken as they get older, in Harry's case, it seemed like a year, less, and he had completely different hair on his head than previously.

The shots of him going to Eton for year 1 show it a little darker but not the unruly kinkiness that would come later.

This has given rise to the conspiracy that Harry is actually a replacement for a child who died or disappeared suddenly . . or maybe the cuter younger version of Harry was the replacement. His looks turned that different very suddenly. Adolescent hormones might cause this. Drugs? Extreme mental stress? Anyway, with the appearance of Kinky-Head Hazzer is when he really seemed to go off the rails. Thoughts?
snarkyatherbest said…
I for one am going to take Mr Dollar's advice and tell my boss on our morning call that his questioning of my work does not bring me joy and suggest i get mornings off paid of course so i can sleep in (which brings me joy), enjoy a good meditation over my morning coffee. I of course will tell the gas/electrical man that his constant reminder to pay the bill is not bringing me joy nor the mortgage man reminding me to pay for my house, and that i will need to meditate to get over the stress that brings. That will take up my afternoons since my mornings will be taking care of the work stress. so now i am destressing all day, paid by my employer and i still havent gotten food on the table or the laundry done. I better sign up for ButterUp so they can detail all the ways i can find joy and avoid my responsibilities. Of course when my credit cards get cut off they may too cut me off from my joy counseling. πŸ˜‰
Mel said…
It is bizarre how H's hair went from silky stick straight to rough textured curly. And from strawberry blonde to mahogany.

However, the changes in hormones during puberty can have vast effects. Male hormones cause the hair curls to become tighter and the hair texture to become coarser.
And hair naturally darkens as we age.

It's possible that H had a bigger surge than normal of male hormones at puberty, which could cause hair appearance to change more drastically and quickly than normal?
Fifi LaRue said…
Just googled straight hair becoming kinky. The results: an increase of androgen, female hormone, at puberty, and pregnancy causing straight hair to become curly, kinky. Making a leap...truth to the rumors that * calls hapless derogatory names referencing sexual identification and preferences.
snarkyatherbest said…
Hairy's Hair issues - my theory:

Sauve hair products dont work as well as expensive salon products available at the palaces

He really was the first man to give birth - to Lilibuck$

Stress of having to live in the chicken coop day in and day out

Ummmm drug use








Mel said…
https://www.britannica.com/science/androgen#ref285568

androgen, any of a group of hormones that primarily influence the growth and development of the male reproductive system. The predominant and most active androgen is testosterone
DesignDoctor said…
HMTQ has lost a great deal of weight. I hope she is OK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10479891/The-Queen-hosts-special-reception-Sandringham-House-ahead-Platinum-Jubilee.html
Hikari said…
It's possible that H had a bigger surge than normal of male hormones at puberty, which could cause hair appearance to change more drastically and quickly than normal?

Hormones were my guess, too, though the change in Hazzer's case really was extreme.

Given that extreme change, if prompted by a bigger surge than normal of male hormones, one might expect a corresponding bulking up of H's physical frame to go along with that. There isn't. I'm always surprised at how deep Harry's voice is. He's tall, 6'1", but has always had that very lanky physique (from Philip). His hands drive me mad . . so pasty and very thin, almost femme. (check what Jesus has to say about Hazzer's limp wrists in his latest video re. ButterUp. He's not using limp wrist in a pejorative way, but just stating a fact--Hazza has very limp wrists that make his hands flap when he's talking.
Miggy said…
Camilla WILL become Queen: Her Majesty, 95, issues historic Platinum Jubilee statement to end years of uncertainty and tells the public 'I know you will give them the same support you have given me'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10480547/Camilla-Queen-Majesty-95-uses-Platinum-Jubilee-end-years-uncertainty.html
Mel said…
Given that extreme change, if prompted by a bigger surge than normal of male hormones, one might expect a corresponding bulking up of H's physical frame to go along with that. 
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True. Didn't really see any natural bulking up. Although he did seem to bulk up some when he was in the military?
He's always had somewhat effeminate looking hands.

It certainly was an extreme change. I guess I can see how it would lend itself to conspiracy theories.

Also interesting is that Mm is fairly masculine looking, especially her hands.
Mel said…
Think the Harkles had a heads up on the Queen Consort Camilla thing?

Would explain recent pr about H laying low and not wanting to upset the Queen.

She is clearly rewarding loyalty, service, and hard work.

Someone who ran away and has been nothing but disloyal might have reason to be concerned, eh?
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SwampWoman said…
DesignDoctor, I was a bit alarmed by the cane. Then I read that it had been Prince Philip's. I got all misty-eyed thinking about how he was still supporting her.
SwampWoman said…
I am happy that Her Majesty made Camilla's title clear upon Charles' ascension to the throne.

Are any of the UK Nutties worried that this announcement may be due to a health condition that is not public?
@Rebecca

Comilla will have the title of Queen Consort, as Princess Diana would have been if she had lived. It’s the proper title. When she married Prince Charles, it was stated she would become Princess Consort, this is why the Queen has redressed this and bestowed/allowed the proper title, especially as Camilla has been exemplary at being a royal. πŸ€—
@SwampWoman

Yes, The Queen is old 😁 but I think the clarification of Camilla’s title is just part of her Platinum Jubilee celebrations. At 95 and serving 70 years as our Monarch, she does have to think of the not too distant future and pave the way for Charles when he becomes King. πŸ™‚
DesignDoctor said…
@SwampWoman
Your remark about PP still supporting her brought tears to my eyes! What a tender and loving thought.
DesignDoctor said…
I am glad that. Camilla will have her proper title. I am sure PC is happy about it, too. Camilla service has been faithful and supportive of HMTQ.
Mel said…
Comilla will have the title of Queen Consort, as Princess Diana would have been if she had lived. 
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AND not been divorced.

Because she was divorced from PC, she was *never* going to be Queen consort.
Mel said…
I was a bit alarmed by the cane. Then I read that it had been Prince Philip's.
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Aww.

Notice that she didn't seem to rely on it when walking. It seemed that she was using it more to lean on when she stood still, which could indicate a back problem. Hadn't we heard something earlier that she was having back issues?


It did look like she has lost a lot of weight, however. Notice how extremely loose her dress is. It's interesting that they didn't have that taken in for her.
DesignDoctor said…
@Mel
Yes, I believe it was back issues to miss Remembrance Day at the Cenotaph.
I also wondered why she did not have her dress taken in.
Magatha Mistie said…

God Save the Queen

A life of devotion, constancy
Duty, service to monarchy
All testament to our Queen’s Jubilee
70 happy glorious years
Thank you ma’am for your fidelity
Cheers!

Vivat! Vivat! Vivat Regina Elizabetha!

Am very pleased that HM has said Camilla should be Queen Consort, though I think the pro-Diana brigade will have apoplexy at the thought of her being crowned (yes, but it's a smaller crown and a more modest rite.)

I gather that Camilla didn't particularly want to marry Charles but she's stepped up magnificently - I've always had a lot of respect for her, not least because she never said a word about the situation. I mentioned a way back that she once got pelted with bread rolls in the Tetbury branch of Waitrose, thought of as our most upmarket supermarket. Can you imagine how * would react?

Whether the H$Ms would stoop to slinging mud at her, I don't know but it's possible. If they did, I hope it would incur such wrath from Charles as they could never have imagined and he would make them regret it until their dying days.

Back to H's appearance - his face looks strange to me - has he had `procedures' or is he just heavily photoshopped? His neck looks thicker too - anabolic steroids, as has been suggested? Or is it someone else/deep fakery?

God Save the Queen!
CatEyes said…
I find it laughable that the Mistress becomes the Queen 'Consort'...sort of like a Henry VIII kind of move really. Yes, Camillia is supportive of Charles, why wouldn't she be? She had a Queendom to win while undermining the marriage of another woman. Yes, the Queen finally relents and approves of what Charles plans on doing anyway going forward; but it was not always the case. Have read many times the Queen did not even want to hear Camilla's name in the past. Who would have thought the Queen would approve *, a divorcee, of marrying her grandson and forking over a literal fortune for * to walk down the aisle in white with a veil but she did. And the Queen supported her son Andrew during his tawdry circumstances for the longest time. I am beginning to think she may not make the best decisions herself. But God Save the Queen!
Hikari said…
@Wild Boar

Re. Rogue Royal Roach on Roids….

Steroid use shrivels a man’s junk right up. Hazzer’s b*ll*cks might be the size of raisins right now.

That would explain a lot.
HappyDays said…
Regarding Harry’s hair…
My brother had straight blonde hair as a child, but as he got into his teens it became curlier. Buy the time he was 25 or 30, it was beyond curly. It looked like he had plugged himself into an electrical socket.

Harry’s hair may just be a result of getting older.
snarkyatherbest said…
The Camilla announcement has me a bit sad. not about her becoming queen. i think at this point the short Charles Reign wouldn’t make much difference. it’s just that the queen is putting her ducks in order and settle her affairs. πŸ˜•
Magatha Mistie said…

Stoned Age Drifter

The inner workings of
Harry Krishna
Limp-wristed loon
and his puppeteer grifter
Plugging his hair
such a dill pill
Whilst madam for sure
has her claws in the till
Hari-Kari moody guru
Buggerup beware
another SNAFU

Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie

Thank you, I didn’t realise it
was Prince Philip’s cane.
Her strength and stay,
never far away.



Mimi said…
I don’t think Hairy has run a comb or brush through his hair in years.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Mimi

Comb would get caught in madams
toenail’s 😳
Magatha Mistie said…

@Hikari

His Raisin d’Γͺtre diminishedπŸ˜‰
Mimi said…
Magatha…..πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚Good one!
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman


Are any of the UK Nutties worried that this announcement may be due to a health condition that is not public?
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Like @Raspberry Ruffle, I think the Queen took the Platinum Jubilee as a good opportunity to make the announcement. It's better, in my mind, than just an announcement on its own coming out of nowhere.


I didn't know the Queen's cane was Philip's, thanks for this info. It's touching to think he's still close to her 'physically' as it were.

'''''''

I like Camilla, she has behaved with much dignity and decorum - unlike her step daughter-in-law - although she's been terribly vilified and has been called an adulteress and a concubine. A lot of people seem to forget it takes two to tango but the woman is usually labelled the guilty party. Her husband, APB, was a terrible skirt chaser and had lots of affairs so it's no wonder she gravitated towards Charles.


Finally, what a welcome change of topic after all these discussions about H's hair πŸ₯΄.
Magatha Mistie said…

Regarding the Queen’s not
so fitted clothing.
I’m wondering if her
back issues make
it more comfortable for her
to wear looser clothes.
She is almost 96.
Charles only went back to Camilla after it became clear that his marriage to Diana was hopeless.

As I understand it, the Catholic Church now favours annulment and is very generous in its attitude.
Magatha Mistie said…

Sorry @Maneki
Hair apparent!

Coop Ersatz

Haz transplanted his
short ‘n’ curlies
On top of his crown
to impress Mail Dailies
What an utter cluster f*ck
He’d be better served
as a ButteredUp chook…

Magatha Mistie said…

Charlemagne

A load of kerfuffle
Over Camilla’s reshuffle
We all knew would happen
one day
Diana the sainted
Was equally tainted
Let Charles have his Queen
his mainstay

CatEyes said…
The Catholic Church does not condone annulment as a solution to not adhering to your marriage vows and besides Charles wasn't Catholic. If he was, a priest would have counseled Charles to make his marriage work (first by not cavorting with a mistress).
Enbrethiliel said…
@CatEyes

I understand what you're getting at and I think the connection to King Henry VII and Anne Boleyn is inevitable. Prince Charles will be the next head of the Church of England, after all, and he, like his ancestor, treated his first wife, to whom he made vows before God and the world, in a decidedly unchristian way. Also like his ancestor, he married the mistress whom he flaunted (at least in aristo circles) and demanded that his morally scandalized people simply accept it. The only bit where Henry has the moral high ground on Charles is that Anne was at least unattached when he married her. Camilla was another man's wife.

For me, the most shocking part of Charles and Camilla's story is that they stayed together even after Diana's grisly death. (If there was finally a time to break up, that was it.) They didn't seem to have any remorse for their decade-long adultery, which hurt not just a young woman who had no idea she was being used as a pawn, but also all their children. For all of Diana's own bad behavior in the marriage and after the divorce, she had always been "more sinned against than sinning."

And like you, I remember when the Queen allegedly referred to Camilla as "that wicked woman" and refused to hear her name. I think that the only reason she finally agreed to a divorced daughter-in-law was that she realized her own culpability in her son's disastrous "marriage of three." I'm sure all of us know of at least one family in which a domineering parent thought he or she could lay down the law for the next generation, only to give in, decades later, to what his or her child originally wanted anyway. Charles was simply not going to budge on Camilla -- and the Queen may have decided to act as his mother in that instance rather than as the head of his church. Plus, I think Camilla genuinely won her over, after they finally got to know each other as people.

My own highly personal opinion of Charles and Camilla's marriage is that it's a good thing that came out of something very, very bad. The Camilla we've seen since her second marriage seems loyal, devoted, steady, and surprisingly humble. Both Prince William and Catherine seem to like her. Their children seem very comfortable around her, which indicates that she is an accepted member of the family. The past is the past. I'm not sure what the benefits of dredging it up again would be.

Sure, the future head of the Church of England is a blatant hypocrite. But what current religious leader is not? I'm not saying we shouldn't hold them to the standards of their respective faiths. Yet apart from the Archbishop of Canterbury suddenly pulling a Thomas Becket and demanding that the future King Charles do public penance, what resolution is there?
Enbrethiliel said…
@WBBM
As I understand it, the Catholic Church now favours annulment and is very generous in its attitude.

This varies from diocese to diocese, and even the most morally lax bishops will admit that not all declarations of nullity are valid. One may receive a declaration of nullity from some committee, but because they actually made the wrong judgment, he or she actually is still married to his or her first spouse. Conversely, there may be people in loving, happy unions who have no idea their marriages are invalid according to canon law. (This is not to disparage their love and commitment to each other. But their love has no bearing on the definition of marriage in the law.)

One is either validly married or not. If a widower remarried, with the correct form and intention, but his first wife suddenly turned up alive, his second marriage was always invalid. And if someone actually IS validly married, no piece of paper from a committee is going to undo that sacrament.

In the US, there is a non-profit group called Mary's Advocates which is made of up of lawyers who help abandoned Catholic spouses defend their marriages from the spouse who wants to pretend that the marriage was invalid, in order to remarry again. Of course, they can't stop the latter spouse from forcing his or her partner into a civil divorce; but at least he wouldn't be able to remarry in the Church, because that would be bigamy.

Granted, there is only so much arguing and presentation of evidence that one can do on earth. I like to think that if we were in possession of all the facts in each case, were trained in logic, and could shed all bias, it would soon become clear which marriages actually exist and which do not. But there may be some situations in which we will only really know the truth after death.
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
I was a bit alarmed by the cane. Then I read that it had been Prince Philip's. I got all misty-eyed thinking about how he was still supporting her.

This is really beautlful!
CatEyes said…
@Enbrethiliel

I appreciate your knowledge and analysis about the Charles and Camilla situation, and you presented it fairly and wonderfully. Same too with your remarks on nullity and the Church. I am proud that the Church still defends the sanctity of marriage.
snarkyatherbest said…
enbre- a Saville Row hair shirt hmmmm it could happen

i think the queen knew what the reaction would initially be with the announcement. she let the heat be put on her with the announcement and let every one get used to the idea so when the time comes the “uproar” will have died down. that’s true leadership on her part. or pragmatism charles is gonna do what charles is gonna due even if it damages his reign from the start. mom bailed him out on that. it’s just sad it’s all winding down
Enbrethiliel said…
@snarkyatherbest
a Saville Row hair shirt hmmmm it could happen

Wouldn't we all like to see something like that?!

mom bailed him out on that.

It does seem to be an integral part of her parenting style. At least Charles can no longer say that Andrew is getting special treatment. She has stuck her neck out for them both, albeit in different ways.

But Andrew is having to stand on his own now -- and soon Charles will, too. I think Andrew's bed has been made for all time, but I wonder if we'll get one last twist in Charles's story.
LavenderLady said…
I have had both my marriages annulled by the Catholic church. They both happened very quickly because I left that church very young and became an Evangelical Christian. The reason it happened so fast is because both my marriage ceremonies were conducted by Protestant ministers. When I reverted back to Catholicism after decades of being away, I had a priest apply for annulments for me.

My sister who is a cradle Catholic and can't get an annulment for her husband's first marriage was furious that I, the renegade, got what she can't get as the "faithful" one. Crazy.

The complexities of religion are maddening. Now, I am neither Catholic nor Protestant and I'm at peace in my elderhood after many decades of bondage and spiritual abuse from both camps.

I am happy that Camilla will have her proper place and title as the wife of a King. She's proved herself to be very loyal, dignified and hard working for HM. She is Charles' great love and all should be forgiven. Once again, HM shows us how she lives her Faith.

@Maneki,
I so feel your pain at all the talk of Hazzard's hair, curtains and carpet!

This is how I feel when the talk is laser focused on feet, toes, nether regions, body odors etc- with the exception of his lack of cajones (which is so blatantly obvious, it screams to be mentioned).

I find it vulgar and nauseating but that's just OCD germ phobe me. Lol.
Enbrethiliel said…
@CatEyes

Thank you. In my sad experience, it is Catholic laypeople rather than the priests and bishops who tend to defend marriage these days. But if we can hold our leaders to account in any way, I hope that we do more of it!
CatEyes said…
@lavenderLady

I am sorry for your abuse. I know my beloved Catholic Church has stood up against slavery centuries before it was outlawed in the UK or the United States, as just one example of where the institution directed its members to do the right thing. With respect to marriage, the Church stance is it is a sacrament and should be entered into by the parties with that in mind. But many marry due to lust not love, or money or convenience etc... then wants the Church to undo their professed commitment before God. Many marriages can be saved if people tried.

The Queen as the head of her Church has shown that her personal likes and dislikes controls her religious decisions. It is often said her faith guides her decisions, but I see it as her feelings guides her faith in regard to her own family. But I do respect and admire the Queen for the most part.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://sputniknews.com/20220206/house-of-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-hit-by-rotten-smell-from-wildlife-refuge-reports-say-1092802281.html

House of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Hit by 'Rotten' Smell From Wildlife Refuge, Reports Say


no comment. LOL
LavenderLady said…
Sorry, O/T here and I'm going to be frank. Shocking, huh?

@CatEyes,
Thank you.

I married both times so we could have sex. Both husbands were acquired through church activities. One in particular, Calvary Chapel was seeing a resurgence in the abstinence movement back in those days; fueled by the testimonies of Jim and Elizabeth Elliot. Google if you haven't heard of them. The father and mother of that movement. Wanting to be a normal adult and make love to the person you love but having to get married to do so is messed up.

We were young both times and it so happened values, compatibility, maturity etc didn't enter into the decision making. Just we shared the same beliefs...

I am still officially Catholic so I can be buried in the family plot. I don't practice at the church but at home. Due to Covid and to abuse by that church as well. And I would label myself as a cafeteria Catholic. Proudly.

___

Sorry Nutties. Back to the theme of the blog. And back to read only at this time.
Svetlana said…
A poster on Celebitchy (on a story about the Queen’s outing yesterday) re her cutting the cake … asked what has the Queen ever done other than cutting a few cakes and some ribbons? She says she hasn’t put the work in or made a difference like Harry and TW. Lots of snarky comments about Her Majesty who — at the ripe old age of 95 — seems to be still “smart as a whip.
Mel said…
I wonder if *anyone* has ever asked Camilla if she was OK.
To those Nutties who listen to Lady C, has anyone got any guesses as to what Mole will reveal within his memoir? According to Lady C it will garner (short term) sympathy which will benefit Maggot too. πŸ€”

She said she will let us know sooner rather than later what it is. πŸ˜‹
Este said…
Camilla was in the eye of the public storm, hated for long time, still hated by many but she kept her mouth shut and on the work. Meghan will never be that hated or reviled so Camilla is a proper foil and has become a lot more sympathetic with the passage of time. Camilla's weathered decades of bad press and I have no issues with making her Queen. As for the Church, I'm a devout Catholic, and wish the Church would just let people divorce. They lose a lot of parishioners from their stance on marriage.
Museumstop said…
@Hikari
That the wife has often beenrevealed to use foul language made me think maybe this account has some seeds of truth. This I know, her mind is way more devious than I can speculate and that the marriage is ugly on the inside - hence the tea filed away for future reference.
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@Mel
Think the Harkles had a heads up on the Queen Consort Camilla thing?
Would explain recent pr about H laying low and not wanting to upset the Queen.

I think you are right, that was a strange article indeed. Strange because we haven't seen empathy from the Harkles before.
----------------------------------------

I am unable to understand the upset about Camila's title. It feels like an obvious progression. She has weathered it all, shown commitment, loyalty and humility whenever required. In all this time, she's never attempted a 'my side of the truth' tell-all. She's stuck to being who she is, despite being faced with extreme public scrutiny and comparison especially about her looks. I think she's done tremendously

I am certainly missing some nuances here especially in the context of religion and Charles taking on the mantle as a leader and a defender of the faith. But I do feel as if the Queen is simply putting in the finishing touches, probably with the future in mind, one that doesn't stop at Charles and William. There may also be a personal element of forgiveness on part of the Queen. Well, all I know is that her statement felt like part one of a goodbye note. A tinge of it.

My fear is more for decisions about the Harkles, who influences those, who takes those? What does this Camila statement mean for the Harkles? what does it reveal to us about the stance the BRF will take on Harry and the wife in the long term?
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

That's all right, I don't mind a poem about H's hair (apparent), at least it's brief and funny.

@LavenderLady

Thank you for feeling my pain! πŸ˜‰

@Enbrethiliel

Charles was simply not going to budge on Camilla

Indeed. Charles said (in 1998?) Camilla was a 'non-negotiable' part of her life.



Miggy said…
Radio silence from Harry and Meghan: Duke and Duchess of Sussex fail to publicly congratulate the Queen as she celebrates her platinum jubilee and requests that Camilla become Queen consort when Charles is made King.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10482735/Harry-Meghan-silent-Queen-celebrates-platinum-jubilee-says-Camilla-Queen-consort.html
Maneki Neko said…
I can't decide what's worse, radio silence from Montecito or a meaningless, insincere word salad.
DesignDoctor said…
@Maneki
I much prefer radio silence from them. Who needs more insincere, hypocritical word salad? Don't really care what those two have to say about anything! In my mind their thoughts are immaterial with the antics they pulled with the infamous interview.
Miggy said…
EXCLUSIVE: Camilla is to be given the Queen Mother’s priceless 1937 crown containing the Koh-i-Noor diamond to wear at Charles’s coronation – and the Queen gave him permission to call her ‘Queen Camilla’ in his vows YEARS ago.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10483165/Camilla-given-Queen-Mothers-priceless-1937-crown-containing-Koh-Noor-diamond.html
Maneki Neko said…
Just seen in the Star

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle branded 'grifters' by furious US talk show host

A US talk show panel had some very choice words for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle – with the host even branding the pair "grifters".

They have also been slammed as “pathetic” and “irrelevant” over their criticism of Spotify, whom they have a lucrative ongoing content creation deal with.

But the pair did complain about "Covid-19 misinformation" on Joe Rogan's popular podcast, which Spotify streams.

In a scathing attack, Fox News talk show host Tucker Carlson, whose nightly programme boasts the largest cable audience on US TV, said: “That annoying fake duchess from LA and her brain-dead husband threatened to walk unless Spotify muzzled Joe Rogan. But they’re not going anywhere.

“These two grifters have a $25million deal with Spotify for essentially no work.

“So far, we believe they have produced just over 30 minutes of content.

“That means these two have been paid about a million dollars for each minute of talking they’ve done. That’s a good gig. It’s too good to leave.”

On a show called The Five, on the same channel, host Greg Gutfeld said: “They’re a bunch of deadbeats.” One guest, retired New York judge Jeanine Pirro, described them as “pathetic” and “irrelevant”.
...
It's good to see the duo cut down to size 😁

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-branded-26153564
Anonymous said…
For anyone who might be interested:

Fragile Harry’s incontinent woo-woo is sweet revenge on the frigid family he left behind

Camilla Long

Sunday February 06 2022, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times


Rishi Sunak and I have one thing in common: we both enjoy a ride on the Peloton. No doubt Sunak likes it because of the slow technical burn of a (quite tedious) power zone ride — possibly to the sounds of Clean Bandit — but I like it because of the extreme tide of hilarious motivational garbage that pours out of the instructors’ mouths.

To say it is hysterical woo-woo is to understate the sheer frothing cataract of feelings-obsessed twottery that fills the audio.

Every time I get on the bike there is someone telling me I need to be strong or live my own life or own my ass or polish my mofo-ing crown ’cos I am a kween. “Or a king,” one of them will correct themselves. “Or non-binary royalty,” they will add. Nothing negative or bad can ever be admitted.

I see from his latest video that Prince Harry, living in California, is now fluent in Peloton, or at least some kind of Yoga-with-Adrienne-style “mental toolbox” iterative blah. Speaking from beneath a sprig of newly farmed carrot hair with a panel of sculpted execs, the prince explained in an interview on Thursday for his wellness app how he dealt with the extreme mental burden of living in a $14 million mansion with 16 loos.

Every day he strives for “mental fitness”. He will try to find a “slate of white space” after the school run. “I now put in half an hour or 45 minutes in the morning when one of the kids has gone to school and the other is taking a nap,” he said.

To which any parent of young children will inevitably shout: 45 whole minutes? Who has more than four? The only “white space” I ever experience is when I lock myself in the bathroom.

How does he think it looks to claim he has suffered from “burnout” when the most stressful thing he now experiences is probably the occasional subpar morning affirmation and not-quite-right American-style grass? Burnout from what, anyway? From taking four private jets a week? From his wife? Everything he says assumes poor mental health is the default, which is, in itself, mad.

I wonder what the Kween herself is thinking as she watches Harry’s latest attempt to dress up navel-gazing as “boldly committing to inner work”. Today is the beginning of her Platinum Jubilee — or, as one run of souvenir crockery hilariously misspelt it, her “Platinum Jubbly”.

As a woman who specialises in sincere, short and savagely to-the-point haikus — “recollections may vary” — she must look at Harry with his sprawling, meaningless bromides and wonder what has gone wrong in the past 70 years.

It is true that in every aristocratic family there is one Harry: a member laughed at as “emotional”. A friend always used to tell me how her father, a distant relative of Winston Churchill, would often weep at the dinner table, sobbing about how much he loved his children, while they rolled their eyes. Churchill famously wept at everything — funerals, processions, songs, films, even comedies.
Anonymous said…
The Queen has chosen the opposite path: one of stony inscrutability and few words. She has famously only ever cried over one thing — a boat. Charles, flowery in comparison, once described his mother as “not indifferent so much as detached”. Then again, trolling around big houses waiting for someone to die, which is all most toffs do, must mess with your wiring.

Is Prince Harry simply what happens after years and years of not letting feelings out and being sent away to school? If you spend your life ignoring your children — the Queen comes from a generation of parents who thought it was perfectly all right simply to shake hands with their offspring — I suppose it should come as no surprise when those children and their children try to attract your attention by telling people they feel they are being “schooled by the universe” and use words like “programme” instead of “routine”.

Harry claims he is now so mentally fragile that he needs to surround himself with “people who I would happily have washing the [mental] windscreen”. Charles, of course, calls such people “valets”. I find it interesting that nearly everything Harry speaks about involves not what he can do for others but what others can do for him.

He cites a constant stream of helpers you can drag in to solve your problems: friends, family, even “complete strangers”, which is weird. It isn’t just employees, he says, who are ultimately responsible for their own mental health, but employers, who should “factor”, say, people’s meditation journeys “into their routine at work”. There speaks a man raised by nannies.

It is easy to criticise the Queen’s stuffy approach and her habit of retreating into formalities and protocol. But if I had to choose, I’d take her reserve and mystery any day over Harry banally telling me: “Every single bad thing — or the things you perceive to be bad — that happens can actually be good.”

Does he believe that? Doesn’t pretending things are fine when they’re not cause poor mental health? Isn’t insisting everyone be intensely positive actually a form of the stiff upper lip?
CatEyes said…
Thank you Nutties for the wonderful quotes and article you all have just posted. The best I've heard in a long time about the dastardly duo. I hope * and *+ both read these deliciously funny and accurate descriptions of themselves.
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Anonymous said…
A REAL ROYAL Queen-to-be Camilla’s risen above royal circus fray with grace & duty unlike pathetic Meghan & Harry, says Piers Morgan

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17564846/piers-morgan-queen-camilla-pathetic-meghan-harry/
snarkyatherbest said…
just noticed the Harry quote from the Camilla Long piece

I now put in half an hour or 45 minutes in the morning when one of the kids has gone to school and the other is taking a nap,” he said. when one is at school and the other is taking a nap”

does this imply that 7month old lilibuck$ is outsmarting her whip smart brother starting preschool when she hasn’t cut her first tooth. weird not to mention them by name or by naming them he’s infringing on their personal space? i am impressed those kids are making it hard on all the other babies and toddlers by excelling way beyond any other in child development waiting for archie’s acceptance at Harvard for fall 2022

OCGal said…
@snarkyatherbest, that quote by Hazbeen (“…when one of the kids has gone to school and the other is taking a nap,”) also stood out like a sore thumb to me. What loving young father doesn’t ever seem to use his children’s names when speaking of them?

It is so odd that HazNoBalls doesn’t utter the little tykes’ names. Most parents love their children, took care when choosing meaningful names for their kids, and use the names which are sweet music to their ears. Most parents want others to know their children, their sweet little personalities, and their given names.

Maybe Mr, Dollar can’t remember the names of his children? I’ll help him out: Archie and Lilibet. There.
SwampWoman said…
So, he is the only caretaker of the kids? Yikes!
SwampWoman said…
I may be absent minded, but I never forgot the kids' names! (Now, when there are 8 grandkids running around, I might have to cycle through several names before I get to the correct miscreant's name.)
SwampWoman said…
I remember back to the days of having small children. I considered myself fortunate to have a moment of privacy in the bathroom (usually with a small child crying outside the door). An hour or 45 minutes? LUXURY!
snarkyatherbest said…
even saying our son is at school our daughter is taking a nap would pass. our or my shows some sort of connection to them. this just confirms to me he lives in the chicken coop.
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snarkyatherbest said…
swampwoman. i get that. add a dog to the mix and it’s pure chaos. but i know all the names. just not names and faces πŸ˜‰
snarkyatherbest said…
OCGal. you are assuming he can read πŸ˜‰
Mel said…
PH never said that *he* took the kid to school, just that the kid was *at* school.
Same with the nap thing. He didn't say that *he* put the kid down for nap, just that they were down for a nap.

Sly, crafty verbiage. He's counting on you making assumptions.

He's just putting meditation in between whatever else he's doing, which is *not* childcare.
OCGal said…
@snarkyatherbest, you have a very good point. Harry obviously loves his status, his titles, his money, his privileges, etc…thus he makes liberal use of “my” when identifying things he wants to make clear belong to him. But he can’t even say “my son” or “my daughter” or “my children”?

That leads me to believe he is far removed from cherishing any children who may actually live in the mansion with him and Mrs Dollar.

That makes me suspicious. Maybe even he doesn’t believe the little children we’ve occasionally seen in “artistic” or “papped” photos belong to him, and so uses the distancing language.
OCGal said…
@snarkyatherbest, you said “you are assuming he can read πŸ˜‰” in reference to Mr Dollar. At first I thought, SNAP! that’s a good zinger, but then I had a sobering thought that you may be right, half joking and whole in earnest.

Maybe Mr Dollar truly can’t read, which would be a sad state of affairs. Dyslexia, perhaps, or other comprehension problem? I don’t know, but that might partially explain his dreadful marks in schooldays, and perhaps make more understandable his flares of anger.

Perhaps that also would explain the execrable, simplistic book “The Stench” that Mrs Dollar wrote for him. It features only 169 word count. Maybe that’s all he can handle?
SwampWoman said…
Mel said...
PH never said that *he* took the kid to school, just that the kid was *at* school.
Same with the nap thing. He didn't say that *he* put the kid down for nap, just that they were down for a nap.

Sly, crafty verbiage. He's counting on you making assumptions.

He's just putting meditation in between whatever else he's doing, which is *not* childcare.


Well, I would hope that he's not taking care of them since he doesn't know their names (grin). Are they still pretending to be at Montecito?
Enbrethiliel said…
Elsewhere on the Internet, it has started. By "elsewhere," I mean simply Royal Tumblr; by "it," I mean the pushback against the news that Camilla will be known as Queen Consort. And it's not all reactionary grouching!

In fairness to those who are not happy about the news, it is not the decision per se which they dislike, but their impression that we are being jerked around by an entitled royal (namely Prince Charles).

@the-empress-7 is particularly disgusted by the PR blast. As she put it:

Saturday: One announcement from The Queen

Sunday: One self serving follow up message from Charles

Monday: Not one, not two, but three.... PR mouthpieces doing Charles work for him


She includes an image of what I assume is the DM's print edition for Monday, which is indeed all about the Queen Camilla news.

Link: https://the-empress-7.tumblr.com/post/675492117180710912/please-make-it-stop-saturday-one-announcement

At least one of her commenters is scoffing at Richard Kay's description of Camilla as a "royal favorite." A favorite of whom exactly?


Camilla is fairly popular among the Nutties (with at least one exception respectfully noted!), so it surprises me a bit that the opposite sentiment still dominates other people's view of her. And then I remember that the Dollars still have fans; so why shouldn't Camilla still have detractors? She may have conducted herself admirably since she finally joined the BRF, but I think her critics can be forgiven for finding her (and Charles's) behavior in the 1980s on the same level as the Dollars' shenanigans today.

Speaking of the Dollars, this Queen Consort business has some interesting implications. But first let me backtrack a bit . . .

I can't find the other post in which @the-empress-7 points out a discrepancy in the timeline. We are being told now that plans for Camilla to be styled as Queen Consort were finalized five years ago; but she remembers a press release from two years ago that assured the public that plans for Camilla to be only Princess Consort remained firmly in place. If so, that makes this some pretty blatant gaslighting from the future King Charles.

Charles is going back on a commitment he made many years ago. No, I don't mean his wedding vows (though they begin the public pattern), but the original decision to style Camilla as Princess Consort. Which begs the question of whether he announced it then only because he knew that revealing his actual plans would stir up public outrage. That is, did he knowingly lie so that he could have what he wanted? (He's certainly lying now.) Did he bait and switch his future subjects back then? Will he bait and switch them again? In short: If King Charles wants the Dollars back in the royal fold, his past behavior strongly indicates that he will push through with it no matter what anyone else wants or considers decent.
Enbrethiliel said…
I found the other link!

Here is the March 2020 denial of the Queen Consort rumors: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royals-deny-camilla-will-be-queen-consort-vbdww7blg

Key quote: “The intention is for the duchess to be known as princess consort when the prince accedes to the throne. This was announced at the time of the marriage and there has been absolutely no change at all.”

So what was that again about "five years ago," Charlie?

(Or should that be Chaz? Chaz and Haz!)
LavenderLady said…
@Enbre,
Per your post at 6:58 re Charles and Camilla.
I've just finished watching The Other Boleyn Girl with Natalie Portman and Scarlet Johannson. Oh my word...😱

Just a consolation that the announcement about Camilla is actually mild. That movie put the whole thing in perspective for me.

Yikes!!!
Elsbeth1847 said…
I don't know. Maybe he put the pressure on his mother or there is some deal and this is his part?

I have read there was some not closeness between TQ and PC the way there is with PA (basically he was more favored in some ways). I always thought that perhaps she kind of viewed PC as more belonging to the country than to her (as the future king) so that she could relax, have more of that mother/kid relationship with PA. And, her mother tended to circle around PC. Lady C talked about the relationship between the two mothers after Elizabeth became Queen. PP was not liked by his MIL among other things.

HM did have a learning curve of married at 21, mother (22), then Queen (steep) without a lot of outside influences from going out to school or maybe seeing other marriages or how to raise kids. One can learn about how to not do something the same way with the next kid. Or with their personality, one responds differently.

And there was more hands off (historically and culturally) that we don't see with, say, PW/K and their kids. They have help but doing the school run and so on is a better indicator of daily involvement you don't see with a photo of a kid sitting on a chair, tea out on a tray and there's a dog around.


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