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Christmas is Coming

 The recent post which does mention that the information is speculative and the response got me thinking.

It was the one about having them be present at Christmas but must produce the kids.

Interesting thought, isn't it?

Would they show?  What would we see?  Would there now be photos from the rota?  

We often hear of just some rando meeting of rando strangers.  It's odd, isn't it that random strangers just happen to recognize her/them and they have a whole conversation.  Most recently it was from some stranger who raved in some video (link not supplied in the article) that they met and talked and listened to HW talk about her daughter.  There was the requisite comment about HW of how she is/was so kind).  If people are kind, does the world need strangers to tell us (are we that kind of stupid?) or can we come to that conclusion by seeing their kindness in action?  Service.

They seem to always be talking about their kids, parenthood and yet, they never seem to have the kids with them at that moment or the meeting doesn't happen at the dentist or pediatrician's office.  Maybe kids like to do the drive through of the fast food or join their parents for lunch at a not fast food place.

Wait a minute - where are the body guards when this was going down? Aren't they necessary to protect the couple (and the kids)?  Strangers might do harm and how they require security to be safe.


Let's switch gears and think about the kids.

When do we see them?  

They didn't travel along the recent blink your eyes and you'll miss island trip.  Not much in the way of whole family vacations even to visit family friendly spots in the US like Smithsonian or Exploratorium.  The Tar Pits are fairly local and would have dinosaurs (usually a hit with kids).  Or the Grand Canyon or Boston (lots of history) or just fun on Hawaiian beaches.  The Natural Museum of History is a kid's dream in NYC.  All these places and yet no kid trips to show the kids the country they live in - even when the parents have a trip to that city.  Those are photos are with OPK (other people's kids).  Their kids don't see their parents doing the good or making the speech.  

When they are seen, they seem to have this in common: 

It is a very brief time period - a couple of shots but does not appear to cover a prolonged period of time.  (meaning the people on the periphery don't seem to move or change a lot).  

It is shot from a distance.  Not closeups.  Even though we all know that telephoto lenses exist (even for phones).  And, often taken showing the back of the adult and minimal view of kid.

Often it is a public holiday "gathering" of some sort but not a lot of listed adult friends (who don't have a working professional relationship with them) or even just friends of the kids along for the fun.  Do these kids even have friends?  If they do, there are things like birthday parties and play dates.  And in school, there are often class photos for year books (even in pre-school).   Later on there will be plays and science fairs.   

No outside confirmation.  Yes there are people who say they met the kids at interviews and the like but no photos.  Ever.  Even when it was all these high profile famous people who popped in to see the new baby Archie.  Or, no photos even in the background from other strangers at the same event.  So although they could have been at some event but how long did they stay after the photos were taken?  

Even when they supply the photos of the kids, there is a feeling that the photos always seem to raise more questions than answers.  

Christmas is weeks and weeks away.  A lot can happen before the walk to the Church happens.  










Comments

OKay said…
@Sandie I'm annoyed to think we're still going to be hearing about these people in 2026. *L*
Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie

I wonder how dependable *'s date of birth is.
Girl with a Hat said…
from CDAN:

Neal Sean reported yesterday that Omid had been living in the L.A. area and frequented a particular hotel, where he would hang out in the lobby etc, and pick up packages from the hotel concierge. Omid was not staying at the hotel. He was staying elsewhere and just coming to the hotel to pick up packages. This went on for quite a while. He never dropped off packages; only picked up. It was hinted that the Sussexes was avoiding getting caught out with email evidence, so they instead sent handwritten notes to Omid via parcels.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/12/blind-item-5.html#disqus_thread
abbyh said…
Oh, oh, my, my. The winds have turned.
This, my friends, is interesting. The cat is now among the pigeons. And it isn't a house cat. And it is stalking.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12815833/Palace-legal-action-Omid-Scobie-book-King-Charles-taking-allegations-seriously-aids-hunt-Royal-leaker.html

As for not *, we have heard this claim before that */H were not connected to the first book. And then, gosh, we learned otherwise. In court no less. Not my circus but it could be problematic for some lawyer when people are giving a statement ... like in regards to this book ... later on.

Neil Sean. I like him. I get the sense that it is becoming the little kid in the Emperor has no clothes - pointing out problems sourced elsewhere than from any of the palaces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTg8Inqqe2M


I would say the plot thickens but really it could be more the ropes are tightening and people are being herded in a direction but based on what they have said in prior statements driving to that way.


Thinking about getting a copy of the book. Maybe this week end ... I have a cookie exchange party (have not made my cookies yet) and a kid birthday party. We'll see how it rolls (and can I get a copy of this book?)
Fifi LaRue said…
@GWAH: That makes sense; the excerpts sounded exactly like a 13 year old mean girl, and we know who the mean girl is. It's Skank's book, and Scabie put his name on it. Wonder if she got part of the advance.
abbyh said…
Thank you. Thoughtful.

I appreciate you.

I'm good but if I do need, I will.

Thanks.
Girl with a Hat said…
about the story that Omid was seen picking up packages at a LA hotel?

do you think that people recognized him, that someone from the hotel told or that Omid is being followed by British intelligence?
Daily Mail seems to be flogging the dead horse with their articles about Endgame. Everyone has lost interest even in my country. Maybe this is the beginning of the swan song of the Sussex story. When the clicks vanish the story dies.

I totally agree that we should not talk about the Royal family as racists, which they are not, and definitely not with a capital R.
Previously unknown worms (aka `Royal Experts') are emerging from the woodwork:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/monarchy-suffered-reputational-damage-following-140537228.html

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/royal-family-reportedly-used-prince-190523956.html

It's easy to guess who is behind the second one; has the first author any sugary `previous'?
I'm still waiting though for other so-called `Royal experts' to recant - Kate Williams, can you hear me? What makes a `Royal expert' anyway, a opposed? She holds the post of `Professor of Public Engagement with History at the University of Reading', not quite the same thing.

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Very interesting post here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/188sgtx/what_if_meghan_was_offended_not_about_the_color/

It was put about that Di had had a `virginity' test before marriage - but such `tests' are pseudo-medical and meaningless. Any gynae investigation would have been to establish that there was nothing amiss which might prevent her producing an heir.

I read that Catherine had a `premarital health check' - just imagine the mess we'd have been in, had William married a woman incapable of producing an heir. (BTW, I write as a woman who was riddled with endometriosis.)
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/188y7pg/confessions_from_tumblr/

I am still chuckling at slide 5 in this compilation! Slide 16 is also interesting as it lists three different versions of the mythcarriage, as provided by them.

That blind from CDAN is very interesting. I do wish someone would sue Scobie for something so that all this 'evidence' makes its way into court. Remember, both Scobie and the witch got away with perjury in a British court (hapless was actually only caught out for being as thick as two bricks). Of course, those astrology posts sparked off my imagination ... what if it does all get exposed in court next year, somehow, and the collaborators turn on each other?

@GWAH
The birthdate of the witch is actually the correct one. That is one accusation that is not true ... that she has lied about her age.
Sandie said…
Uncle Gary defends Catherine ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12815957/Kate-Middleton-uncle-GARY-GOLDSMITH-slams-Omid-Scobie.html

The last paragraph of this excerpt really hits the nail on the head::

For it is when he is describing the relationship between the Cambridges and the Sussexes that Scobie shows his true colours, painting Harry and Meghan as the perfect working royals, and suggesting that the Cambridges looked 'dull' in comparison.

This sounds to me like blatant jealousy, as William and Kate have always been the main event and Harry and Meghan the sideshow.

Our future monarchy will always be front and centre for obvious reasons but, until the Sussexes felt that they were not getting the lion's share of the publicity, it was harmonious. Then all hell broke loose.

He suggests that Kate was unwelcoming to her future sister-in-law and spent more time talking about her than to her, but I suspect cultural differences were at play.

For me, Meghan is too rumbustious and desperate to be the centre of attention. Kate will generally put people at ease, make them feel relaxed, and try to make them feel important.

It's a superpower which is very difficult to pull off when you have a Zebedee character bouncing about demanding special treatment and the spotlight.

* I had to look up Zebedee ... It is a Biblical reference that means 'gift from god'. Is uncle Gary referring to her delusional narcissism? (LOL)

This piece by Uncle Gary more than hints that our opinion of the witch is shared by Catherine and her husband and family.
Oh abbyh I almost hope you would have read the book for our entertainment. Rita Panahi and Paul Murray have a hilarious youtube piece in Sky News Australia where they read Endgame with jokes and laughter. That book is even more ridiculous than I thought.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

I remember Diana's 'virginity' test before marriage and thought it was well known. Personally, I find this abhorrent but in her case, the BRF wanted to make sure she didn't have a 'history' (in case of scandals). And yet, and yet... Markle was foisted upon an unsuspecting public and look at all the scandals.
Shock! Horror! - Catherine had elocution to sound posher/plummier*/higher social class/more educated/ than William?

That's so rich, coming from a Swansea-born pipsqueak who was educated at a `good' Oxford school just as `posh' as Marlborough. Methinks he's projecting. I've no idea when he left Swansea but wonder if a his accent was ironed out to ensure entrance to Magdalen (pronounced `Maudlin') College School. If he's such an inverted snob, he should have kept/adopted a South Walian sing-song.

*Educated or grand people are often accused of sounding as if they have a plum in the mouth. For educated Swansea voices, try Richard Burton (actor) or Rowan Williams (scholar, poet and former Archbishop of Canterbury).

Elocution isn't necessary - one just has to be around educated people.
Girl with a Hat said…
I find it very interesting that Lainey Lui, *'s sycophant, hasn't published a single story about the book, the reaction or lack of reaction to it, etc.

Ordinarily, she would be telling the world how brave * is and how much she suffered.

Rats leaving a sinking ship comes to mind.
Opus said…
@Sandie

Would not Zebedee be a reference to the character in the Children's tv show The Magic Roundabout? (after my time).

Elocution: the most perfect English is spoken by those to whom it is not a first language. So perfect no one else speaks that way - init.

Over the years one hears all sorts of stories such as the performing of a virginity test for Lady Di. I call BS on that.
Hikari said…
[Scabby]suggests that Kate was unwelcoming to her future sister-in-law and spent more time talking about her than to her, but I suspect cultural differences were at play.

For me, Meghan is too rumbustious and desperate to be the centre of attention. Kate will generally put people at ease, make them feel relaxed, and try to make them feel important.

It's a superpower which is very difficult to pull off when you have a Zebedee character bouncing about demanding special treatment and the spotlight.

* I had to look up Zebedee ... It is a Biblical reference that means 'gift from god'. Is uncle Gary referring to her delusional narcissism? (LOL)?


@Sandie

Last bit first . . Zebedee is a character from the Gospels. He is the father of James and John, two of the earliest-called disciples of Jesus. They left the family fishing business to follow the Master. Jesus nicknamed them "Sons of Thunder" -- Zebedee being 'Thunder'. One has no difficulty imagining Dad's reaction to his two sons abandoning him and their work to follow some itinerant rabbi. Thunder's reaction was so epic, it's been preserved for all time. A Zebedee character makes a lot of noise, most of it self-centered around his/her grievances and definitely attention-grabbing.

I wasn't sure if the rest of the above was your paraphrasing of Uncle Gary or taken directly from the article. 'Rambustious' is far too kind for Harry's wife. She certainly is that, but it goes so much further. She's not just attention-grabbing and demanding but malignant through and through.

There is a cultural difference between Britons and Americans viz. social norms in directness of communication. The American style can be considered too blunt or contfrontational even when no offense is meant. In Madam's case, we can be assured that she absolutely meant to be offensive and dared anybody to correct her. It's hilariously ironic that this person claims to have studied international relations at one of the top universities in the United States but still doesn't display the most rudimentary understanding about how to be respectful to anyone. She claimed that 'nobody taught her the national anthem of Britain.' Well, why didn't a whip-smart university graduate go on YouTube and teach herself when she got engaged to the Queen's grandson? It was going to be coming up a lot in her life. That just doesn't wash. I've never been to the United Kingdom but I have known "God Save the Queen" by heart since I was in elementary school. It just comprises what I consider to be general knowledge.

Anyone who is not a rabid Suxxit Sugar knows this character assassination of Catherine is complete tosh. She has grown into her role these last 10 years and now is aces at the job--warm, engaged, professional. She's got 'It'. Harry's wife never has and never will care about any other person besides herself so she couldn't connect with any of the public who came out to see her as a Duchess. She was and is incapable of recognizing that 'service' means elevating the cause over oneself and whatever one is wearing that day.
Mel said…
Wonder if she got part of the advance.
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I saw chatter that Mm gets 68% of the revenue from the book.
@Sandie
Zebedee? not biblical in this case.

It's from The Magic Roundabout, a children's show 1968 on. Z was a toy on a spring. like a jack-in-the box which had escaped the box

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h60c-dHMbk - it's a good simile.



Camilla Tominey
Sat, 2 December 2023 at 10:00 am GMT

From Yesterday's telegraph - an opinion piece that `Team Sussex are full of hate towards our elegant Princess of Wales'.
@Hikari re Zebedee -I think we're both right!
Girl with a Hat said…
bild.de reports that there was some call for killing of Harry

German investigative authorities raise the alarm: like the „ Focus“ reports, Islamists have called for the British Royal to be killed. This emerges from a situation picture of the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA).

A week ago, the al-Qaida media portal „ AS-Sahab Media Foundation “ called on the Muslim population worldwide to carry out an attack on Harry. The aim is to use „ bloody attacks and revolutions to support the Palestinians “. The terrorist organization Hamas should be supported in one fell swoop.

Prince Harry and the United States were identified as primary goals in the call, where Harry now lives with his wife Meghan (42) and the two children Archie (4) and Lilibet (2).
Fifi LaRue said…
Well, she's the co-author.

No need for any publisher to give her another chance. That was her magnum opus.
Who, apart from me, wonders if all 3 members of the Dark Triad fill their poison pens with green ink?

Why do people (also Scobie) repeat that untruth that "this-one's-wife" is first person of colour in the British Royal family? She is not. 2004 the elder daughter of prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester Lady Davina Windsor married a stunningly handsome New-Zealander with maori inheritance Gary Lewis. Prince Richard is first cousin of Queen Elizabeth II and Her Majesty gave her consent to the marriage. Lady Davina and mr Lewis' children Senna Kowhai and Tane Mahuta are in the line of succession to the British throne after their mother Lady Davina who is a second cousin to His Majesty the King.
Maneki Neko said…

The King is said to be taking the taking the furore over the book 'very seriously' and will consult senior advisers next week on the family's next step, with 'all options' including legal action set to be considered.

The Mail understands that Buckingham Palace has been internally investigating who could have seen the letters from their end - but it is confident the leak has not come from within, believing only a 'tiny handful' of people have ever seen them.


Hard to believe * had nothing to do with it. Normally eager to sue and apparently disliking false rumours, they've been strangely silent.

Yes, * is morbidly jealous of Catherine. Catherine is what she never will be and has what * will never have. Catherine is also much more intelligent, she understood from the off what her role entailed and she took time to learn the ropes, unlike * who was going to 'hit the ground running' and fell at the first hurdle.

I hope William is talking to Charles about the situation, he won't let this pass.
Hikari said…
@Opus & WBBM,

Thanks for chiming in about The Magic Roundabout. That wasn't on Sandie's or my radar as non-Britons, but I'd say that was definitely what Uncle Gary was referring to. The Biblical Zebedee must have been able to bellow incredibly loud if it made such an impression on Jesus- but the image of a maniacal Jack-in-the-Box that had popped its tetherings and is running amok in the world suits Madam to a T.

We all enjoyed seeing the toxic twats getting roasted on South Park with the "Worldwide Privacy Tour" episode but while the Harry was incredibly spot-on, I had to take issue with their depiction of Madam. Her cartoon self is demure and cute like a kokeshi doll. Even at her (negligible) best whilst a Royal, she was never demure and cute. The biggest flaw with the cartoon iteration of her is that she never uttered a single word nor sound. That was utterly wrong. But I think the creators were making a point by having 'Harry' do all the talking while his rosy-cheeked kokeshi wife trailed after him silently. They were satirizing the real dynamics of the couple which is the exact opposite.

I guess the creators of The Magic Roundabout got their inspiration for the name from the New Testament paterfamilias but Harry's Wife = Crazed Jack-in-the-Box off the reservation.

Two other things come to mind from pop culture: IT by Stephen King, in which a demonic clown lures children into sewers . . she's done that to the childlike dolt that is Haz, innit . . and the movie "Magic", in which Anthony Hopkins plays an insecure ventriloquist who becomes possessed by his dummy . . Or does he? Maybe he's just got a homicidal split personality.

Harry's Wife is disturbed and terrifying AF, no matter what she's compared to.
Hikari said…
@GWAH,

If the German reports you posted are accurate re. a fatwah out on JCMHFKAP . . this situation has officially spiraled out of control for the RF. The current incendiary situation in the Middle East has made it really unsafe for a certain ginger who has shot off his gob about his service record to be freerange in the world.

This has gone beyond the duo agitating to get Royal bodyguards paid for by the Crown to show off their importance; they represent a clear and present danger to any persons who may reside near them, wherever that is they are living--that includes the presumptive safety of any minor children living with them (allegedly). If the two had gone off to North America and kept a low profile it wouldn't be so concerning but of course they haven't. How will the Palace answer this, I wonder?

There's no love lost between me and Harry and his wife, but the worldwide situation has become frightingly unpredictable, even before this latest ridiculousness with the book. These two are their own worst enemies and just are incapable of learning how to keep their yaps shut. I actually don't care what happens to them but if some zealot intent on harming H inflicts collateral damage on innocent people . . I do care very much about that. The egregious duo needs locking up and muzzling for their own protection as well as innocent bystanders.

You may recall that author Salman Rushdie had a fatwah issued against him in 1989 after the Satanic Verses was published . . and he'd been in hiding practically ever since. Last summer, in 2022, he emerged to give a talk at the Chautauqua Institute, where a self-appointed assassin rushed the stage and stabbed Mr. Rushdie 10 times, even with multiple strong men trying to hold him back. It's a miracle that Mr Rushdie survived this. I worked at that venue for three summers . . it's a bucolic sleepy resort in Mayville, NY about an hour from Buffalo; only 4000 or so year-round residents. Security is minimal but there has never been an incident like this before. The young man responsible for the attack wasn't even born in 1989.

H and M may feel untouchable but they aren't. I might just be suggestible but I have an ominous feeling that something bad could kick off in 2024.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari

here is the link to the Bild.de story in German. You can use google translate

https://www.bild.de/news/2023/news/royals-prinz-harry-im-visier-von-islamisten-terror-gruppe-ruft-zu-anschlag-auf-86302242.bild.html
@Maneki Neko

I suspect that the medical test on Diana being a for virginity was put about by mischief makers. The myth about only married women being free to use internal protection had bn debunked long before that. Even `Edith Home', agony aunt in `Woman' who was actually a bloke, told readers that the only way a new husband would know that his bride wasn't a virgin would be if she, or someone else, had told him.

Perhaps they were checking that Di hadn't got an STD that could interfere with having a healthy child(I always have to think twice about that abbreviation - I'm so old I think `Subscriber Trunk Dialling' from the days when we no longer had to go through the operator for a long distance phone call but could dial it for ourselves.) That's not quite the same thing but Di was pretty `thick' so may not have appreciated that.

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A Fatwah: Gosh, the Salman Rushdie business was chilling in '89: riots, book burnings up North , was it Bradford? We were expecting civil war - followed by the Pan Am disaster in the December. The Harkles would be wise to shut up and disappear from public view as if in a witness protection programme. Change their names, complete new identities, have no contact with anyone who might know them. Then there's plastic surgery, hiding in an attic or under a floor, trusting someone else to bring them the necessities of life without betraying them.

As you say Hikari, we can only hope that no innocent bystanders get hurt - and that * is not left on her own by Ginge's demise. There are now far more potential assailants in the UK than there were 30+ years ago - our fears are dismissed by the PTB as `phobias' but I don't think there's anything irrational about our anxieties.

For example, there was a firebomb attack on a publisher's house in Islington (London N1) in 2008 . The attackers didn't like a book he was in the process of publishing. It felt rather close to me, I once lived in a flat backing onto that square. Omid Scobie should be fearful too.
NeutralObserver said…
@GWAH,@Hikari,Do you think TW will install a tracking chip in Todger when he's in a drugged stupor so terrorist drones can find him more easily? They say she gave the location of Tyler Perry's house to the entity that allegedly sent drones to the property. They seem to really detest each other at this point, & we know how she would love to be a royal widow. Just being a bit naughty here.

She likely enjoyed all of the cloak and dagger surrounding publishing the latest Todger hagiography. Plotting her not so loved one's demise would be a piece of cake for her.

One cheerful item on SMM notes that the Todgers weren't invited to the White House Christmas tree lighting ceremony along with InvictusTeamUS. People seem to be catching on to TW's attention grabbing tricks. Apparently there are some invitations WME can't wangle

https://twitter.com/InvictusTeamUS/status/1730592180874445080

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1895n5p/so_they_can_gate_crash_a_canadian_hockey_event/
Here's another punch in the gut for the Harkles:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/189acz3/nfi_again_the_unsussexfuls_are_not_invited_to_the/

This also reveals one of the `secret godparents' assuming that Aldi & Lilibet are real.
NeutralObserver said…
Did the Scabies book precipitate the Todgers' non-invite to the society wedding of the year next summer, or had the decision already been made? Apparently, they're not on the guest list of the Duke of Westminster's wedding next summer. The Duke is one of the godfathers of both Prince George & Archie.

https://archive.is/YugnY

Two comments below the article:


Don’t worry, Sparkle will have earmarked the wedding day as her Grand Fridge Door Opening Event. She applauds when the light comes on just for her.

That's hilarious! :)

She'll probably do one of her car park pap walks.


The rest of the comments are in the same vein.
Another un-named source with a direct line to His Majesty's thinking:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/king-charles-iii-knows-doesn-084044613.html

This time it's about Aldi & Lidl (funnily enough, Aldi & Lidl are separate companies run by a pair of German brother who have no love for each other. I've read that the same goes for Puma & Adidas (both sportswear manufacturers)
NeutralObserver said…
I'll answer my own earlier question; I think * probably installed a tracking chip on poor Todger years ago. The question is, will she give the terrorists access to his location info? Todger should look into this. I doubt he's very tech-capable. He always had underlings to deal with that sort of thing. I doubt * has allowed him to become more self-reliant.
Maneki Neko said…
Harry and Meghan have been excluded from the high society wedding of his childhood friend Hugh Grosvenor - but William and Kate are invited - in the latest sign of a Royal rift between the two brothers.

Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster, is said to have wanted to invite the Sussexes but decided against it to avoid clashes on his big day amid soaring tensions between the royals following the release of Omid Scobie's new book.

He picked the Prince and Princess of Wales over the Sussexes to avoid any awkward moments for King Charles and Queen Camilla during the wedding, The Sunday Times reported.


Hugh Grosvenor is the 7th Duke of Westminster and one of the wealthiest men in Britain. He is also Archie's godfather. Who could blame him? The wedding is not until 7th June next year. A lot could happen in the meantime. A big slap across the face for the Harkles. William and Catherine picked over the duo - not a hard decision to make. Can you hear the sound of smashed crockery in California?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12818383/Harry-Meghan-excluded-high-society-wedding-childhood-friend-Hugh-Grosvenor-William-Kate-invited-latest-sign-Royal-rift-two-brothers-revealed-groom-Archies-godfather.html
Sandie said…
"It’s hard to work out who is the most pitiable of the three principal players in this shabby cavalcade. Markle has used the very real evils of racism and misogyny to conceal her true mission – ceaseless promotion of herself to a level of sainthood, or at least Oprah-hood. The massively privileged and profoundly dim man who has given her a world platform is also a disgrace. But, on balance, the sheer parasitic poisonousness of Scobie wins him the top spot. Writers have often wanted to warm themselves on the furnace of fame and glamour. Truman Capote hung out with Marilyn Monroe; Rex Reed went on bar crawls with Ava Gardner. In these cultural dog-days, the nearest we get to such a union is a puppet-faced poltroon having his strings pulled by Princess Pinocchio, to give her Piers Morgan’s amusing nomenclature. Diana had Andrew Morton; Charles had Anthony Holden and Jonathan Dimbleby. Meghan has a hack from Heat who seems to lie about his age – amongst other things. We truly get the chroniclers we deserve, though I’d draw the line at saying Scobie has the face he deserves, as no one could have committed so much wrongdoing in the space of a mere 42 years."

A sample from this article ...

https://archive.ph/2023.12.02-180442/https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-parasitic-poisonousness-of-omid-scobie/
Sandie said…
The DM article claims that Hugh Grosvenor was one if the closest friends of hapless. That is odd as there is no evidence of such close friendship at all. The article also claims that Hugh Grosvenor is Archie's godfather. There is no evidence of this at all. This sounds like a made-up story to 'milk' the royal scandal and it probably has no basis in reality. But, the DM seems sure of itself in this one, and I am surprised that this information has been kept secret for so long:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12818383/Harry-Meghan-excluded-high-society-wedding-childhood-friend-Hugh-Grosvenor-William-Kate-invited-latest-sign-Royal-rift-two-brothers-revealed-groom-Archies-godfather.html
Sandie said…
@Hikari and @Opus
The name Zebedee now makes complete sense! Thanks so much for those explanations.
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The US Invictus team was invited to the White House for the Christmas Tree lighting ceremony, and all posed for a team photograph. Absent was hapless.
Nacho said…
@Hikari
I think the krackening may be occurring with Palace wanting accountability for Scobie’s schtik. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Nacho said…
Oh hi all. I just posted for the first time in ages and was asked a name to put in. I’ve been Advanced Pause ,something (wasgeneric)
But I typed in Nacho ( who doesn’t love Mexican food?)
From the Telegraph:

Prince Harry’s book Spare is most traded-in biography of the year

It may have been a bestseller, breaking the Guinness World Record for the fastest selling non-fiction book of all time, but Prince Harry’s autobiography Spare has now reached a new, rather less salubrious milestone.

According to We Buy Books, the 416-page tome, which was published on Jan 10, was the most traded-in biography of the year.

A spokesman for the books specialist, which “turns unwanted books into cash”, said: “Prince Harry’s Spare was our most traded-in biography of the year. We’ve accepted 459 copies. We limit how many we accept in a timeframe so chances are if we’d accepted every copy, there’d have been a lot more!”

Customers trade in their books online by typing the ISBN number into the website or scanning it on the app and then accepting the instant valuation offered. Although Spare originally retailed at £28, We Buy Books would offer customers £2.40 for their second hand copies. The hardback edition is currently selling for £14 on Amazon and is priced £19.99 at Waterstones.
Sandie said…
I came across this, which makes the whole story more complicated:

"He (JJ) has been a journalist for years and was around Harry and William back in their party days. JJ said that he talked to a friend of the royals and they told him that it wasn't Charles nor Catherine."

https://youtu.be/KMe4prJ7g1U?feature=shared

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/187svaq/new_weird_twist_brits_please_weigh_on_the/
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Accusing Charles: the source of this is a conversation between hapless, Charles and Camilla before the engagement, so hapless told the witch who told Scobie.

Accusing Catherine: the source of this is a conversation between Catherine and Charles at a family gathering. How the heck would Scobie or the witch or hapless know what was said in that conversation or that it even took place or that the family get-together even took place? This accusation is completely made up. That the witch has 'confirmed' the accusation by a comment through unnamed close friends is diabolical.
Magatha Mistie said…

Krakahoa

Off with their heads
Will said to pa
Pa agreed
they’ve gone too far
Besmirching the King
and the Princess of Wales
For tawdry headline’s
to boost their book sales
Could this be
the kraken krak
The slur that broke
the krakens back…

Sandie said…
@WBBM
Saw your post about the IG team at the White House minus hapless and his controller. I think this is significant. He is so closely associated with the games and she made the recent games all about her. Did they decline the invitation because the White House refused to deploy Air Force One to ferry them to and from Washington, I ask sarcastically? As little as a year ago such an event sans them would have been unthinkable.
Magatha Mistie said…

Nullified

The tide has turned
for the turgid turds
Who will believe
their blasphemous words
Surely ’People’
and those at ‘Today’
Will finally accept
their words have no sway…

Sandie said…
https://archive.is/2023.12.03-081924/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/12/03/princess-of-wales-duchess-of-sussex-royal-rift/

There are heaps of 'new revelations' in this article, including:

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Meghan always pointedly insisted on calling the Princess of Wales “Kate” even though the rest of the family referred to her as “Catherine”.
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Another bugbear for Meghan was the Windsor Suite, the VIP lounge at Heathrow. Wrongly convinced that Kate’s family had free use of the facility, which usually costs around £5,000 to access, she insisted Doria be able to use it when travelling to the UK, allegedly citing the risk to her safety. In fact, no one can recall the Middletons using the Windsor Suite ...
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William and Kate had not only used Nottingham Cottage as their London residence after their marriage from 2011 to 2013, but even had Prince George living with them there for several months – something Meghan either didn’t know or was apparently reluctant to acknowledge, preferring to think they had been living at the Middletons estate in Bucklebury, Berkshire. When Doria came to stay, she made a point of cramming her into the cramped cottage, insisting she couldn’t stay at the nearby Royal Garden Hotel because it “wasn’t safe”.
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On another occasion, Meghan allegedly gifted an employee a Charlotte Tilbury lipstick set, but only after she had removed her preferred shade.
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abbyh said…
Thought crossed my mind.

Poopy-Scoopy picking up packages at the hotel (items which may have been deposited by H) reminds me of early stories about her secret diary when she was at KP.

I do hope the Security Services intercepted those packages which she herself posted (I'd expect her normally to get a despised underling to do that). It's actually a criminal offence t interfere with the post but the authorities can do it, I believe, when it's a matter of national security. In the early days of the Post Office (17thC and on) it was routine for all letters to be opened, even copied, by what was then a Government department.

(I read a report sometime ago that certain Russian government departments have gone back to using typewriter, rather than IT, for increased security).
NeutralObserver said…
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NeutralObserver said…
I highly recommend the Spectator article by Julie Burchill which @Sandie linked to at 7:17am. It's a real hoot & says just about everything we all think about Scabies.

https://archive.ph/2023.12.02-180442/https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-parasitic-poisonousness-of-omid-scobie/

Reading it makes me wonder if * & Scabies cooked up the book to try to burn all of Harry's bridges back to his family. Isolating their victim from loved ones is a classic move of the abuser.

Scabies' face used make me think that he was a reasonably attractive young man who unaccountably wanted to look like an ugly girl. Now I agree with a SMM commenter who pointed out that he looks like one of the puppets from the Thunderbird tv show.

I think we could find lots of pop cultural figures that Scabies & his mistress resemble. I think ILBW resembles characters ranging from the Lucy Steele character in Austen's Sense & Sensibility,to the Steerpike character in Gormenghast and to Gollum in Lord of the Rings, albeit the last 2 are males. What a ghastly couple.
Hikari said…
@Sandie

Re. Hairball’s non-appearance at the WH Christmas with the IG team, a number of possibilities:
1. The White House declined to invite him out of consideration for the delicate diplomatic situation between the Montecito numb nuts and the Crown. The United States does not favor petulant runaway royal children over their fathers, the sitting monarch of the United Kingdom.
2. Hairball was invited but Mommy wouldn’t let him come because she was not included on the invite.
3. Hairball blew it off because he’s a coward and knows after Düsseldorf, he is reviled.

Whatever the reason hairball was not in attendance, everyone involved could breathe a huge sigh of relief and have a good time.
NeutralObserver said…
A point by point take down of all of the dubious racism claims made by the Todgers and their sock puppet from Piers Morgan in the London Times:

https://archive.ph/Q6NoY
SwampWoman said…
I just love to awaken to the smell of burning bridges in the early morning hours, don't you?
SwampWoman said…
LOVED the Spectator article, Neutral Observer and Sandie! We're enjoying a spinach/artichoke frittata with bacon. I have to carefully time my bites so as to not choke to death. Snorting frittata through the nose is not as easily done as coffee!

Finding Freedom’s coauthor Carolyn Durand appears to have decided that a period of silent penance might be the best way to make up to the world for inflicting such bilge on it, but Scobie is made of stronger stuff (although if I was him, I wouldn’t put such a flagrantly inflammable face anywhere near a naked flame).

He has kept soldiering on with his uphill journey of making the Duchess of Sussex and her Grabdication seem like Joan of Arc if she was a C-list actress famous for marrying a rich man. Scobie’s new book Endgame has already been in the news this week due to its general peevishness (once more, every member of the royal family except Meghan and Harry are beastly) and its specific reveal of the ‘Royal Racists’ which has seen one become two. The smell of burning bridges will outdo any of the scented candles in a certain Montecito mansion this festive season, one imagines. It is being driven home mercilessly to the baffled, tethered prince that despite the recent hints of a reconciliation, he can never go home again.


OMG, it really WAS a grabdication! I bow in her general direction for the excellence of her descriptions of the wannabe players.
Fifi LaRue said…
I'm going with the White House did not invite Crank because they are wise enough to maintain respectful ties with another country. The Turnips already played their hand in requesting a ride on Air Force One.
The Turnips were rejected by both Mr. and Mrs. Obama.
Skank would have shoved everyone out of the way, and made an attempt at a mic grab.
The powers that be have the Turnip's number.
Excellent post at SMM:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/189va23/no_wedding_invitation_means_harry_is_a_duke_in/

No Wedding Invitation means Harry is a Duke in Name Only

The thrust is that H & M are being taken apart piece by piece but H at least has yet to realise it.

Here's the kicker from the end:

For British people who are unfailingly polite, deferential and will never rock the boat socially, it clearly demonstrates that Harry is no longer an insider, that he is no longer a member of the aristocracy or the Royal Court, that his connections to power and prestige have all disintegrated.

This action says that despite Harry being Duke of Sussex in name, he is no longer a Duke in reality.

I have no doubt this is a calculated move at the behest of Charles and William, and comes on the back of high-level advice taken by the RF about how to deal with the ILBW. Not just legal, but I am sure they have spoken to corporate crisis management teams, PR experts, and psychologists. Despite criticisms, they are well-briefed about what they are dealing with, and how to manage it.

These seemingly small, but in reality devastatingly important moves by the RF are negating Harry bit by bit, until the RF makes the announcement hopefully next year, formalising what has by then already taken place, that Harry is no longer Duke of Sussex, he is no longer in the Line of Succession, and he is no longer accorded the title of Prince.

The work to remove Harry is being done before our very eyes.

The RF will get the public to the position of clearly understanding and accepting that Harry is now just plain old Mr. Mountbatten-Windsor sitting on a beach in California, and then, and only then, when the work is done and the transition is complete, will they announce it.



BTW, last weekend, I was in Arras (northern France/Nord/Picardy/French Flanders) and H's obsession with The Lion King came to mind - yes there is a connection!

Arras, once known for the production of tapestries, used to be pronounced, in French, without sounding the `s' - like saying `à rats', ie `with rats', and the rat had long been embraced as the emblem of the town, not that other towns of the time didn't have rats, of course.

The LK echoes `Hamlet' and poor addled H sees himself as the Prince of Denmark, deprived of his rightful place by the murderous Claudius. The episode when Hamlet runs through Polonius, hiding behind the arras is another Shakespearean double meaning - full explanation here:

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+rat+and+Hamlet%27s+Arras.-a019417453

In our saga, H is the treacherous rat hiding behind the curtain, a modern-day Claudius with his contemporary Gertrude, who had dropped poison into his ear; together with their servant, Scumbag, they are a real nest of rats.

The story gets better: in 1640/41 (Old Calendar) the Thirty Years War had brought the Spanish army into Arras, where they were being besieged by the French. Full of braggadocio, the Spaniards fixed a notice to the door of the town, saying `When the French take Arras, that'll be the day the rats hang the cats'. In this case the French won.
(the rats are now celebrated in chocolate and can be bought at the Christmas market.)

Now though, we are the cats, watching the dirty rats hang themselves.
Hikari said…
@Fifi

Along with H being an untouchable diplomatically, he also, in light of revelations about Islamic extremists calling for his removal from life after he bragged in WAAGH about how many Taliban he took out— Pure fantasy IMO, he was thinking of his XBox score—Turnip represents a grave security threat as a lightning Rod for terrorists. I think the duo’s invitations anywhere are at an end. They aren’t worth the risk and no jurisdiction wants to pay their security bill.

WBBM,

I always thought that Ratface identified with the younger brother—Scar/Claudius—embittered over being deprived of his rightful place as King through an accident of birth. If primogeniture dictates that he is just a Spare… Well, at least when they were children there was only one impediment standing in his way of the Crown, and elder brothers will have accidents. Now that William has provide three heirs, George, the Crown Prince but one is now Simba.

IMO, The Turnips were removed from Windsor permanently to protect William and his heirs. This is indeed a Shakespearean tragedy playing out in front of our eyes and in social media.
Thank you, @NeutralObservor for the brilliant Spectator takedown, and to WBBM for the StMM comment. The latter sounds like it was written by an insider.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

OT

Thanks for the interesting snippets of information about Arras and the rats. I didn't know the pronunciation used to be 'à rats' (it is a-rass now). If we keep the analogy, I think the rat (*) will desert the sinking ship (H) once he's been demoted to plain M. Windsor/taken off the LoS. What a mess!
Maneki Neko said…
Two headlines in the DM:

Harry and Meghan had to 'find their own voice' like Nelson Mandela did, South African titan's granddaughter says

Meghan Markle 'felt she had more of a right to speak' than Kate Middleton because she was a 'self-made woman' - and 'seemed uncomfortable having to play second fiddle', source claims
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Unbelievable! Who do they think they are? As for the 'self-made woman', she's only where she is and (in)famous because of who she married - self-made indeed! If she was "uncomfortable having to play second fiddle'", then she really had no understanding of her role. Catherine, Camilla and Sophie had no such problem, they knew the role is not about them.

Maneki Neko said…
I didn't read the two articles mentioned in my previous post but while scrolling through, two sentences in the first one struck me.

The source said: 'She seemed to feel like she had more of a right to speak than her sister-in-law, who had married into the family as an unknown whereas Meghan regarded herself as a philanthropist who could teach the royals a thing or two about charity.

'I think she found it difficult that the Royal Foundation was already a well oiled machine by the time she got there.'


I really cannot believe it. Was she that thick? So much for being 'whip smart'😆. The BRF do a lot of charity work and have patronages, in fact they hold 3,000 royal patronages. I find *'s crass ignorance and stupidity astounding.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12820183/Meghan-Markle-felt-right-speak-Kate-Middleton-self-woman-uncomfortable-having-play-second-fiddle-source-claims.html
Lady C read a comment from a viewer in Montecito today (Sunday) that was very interesting. The lady (or gentleman) said that today (Sunday) a low-flying plane registered to an advertiser was circling around Harry and Meghan’s neighborhood carrying a banner reading “Was Mum’s death really an accident??”. Lady C confirmed this news by calling a friend of hers who also lives in Montecito. It had to have been the Harkles that did this—no one else in their right mind would. Lady C speculated it was a ploy to divert attention from the tsunami of bad news this week and to get sympathy from people dumb enough to believe it was harrassment.
abbyh said…
Neil, have to love the guy. He just chugs along, day in and day out. And, has a lovely good morning greeting.

Superglue but also the take on how who benefitted and how.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpyERcYYqg
Girl with a Hat said…
from DM

Scobie publisher throws Scobie under the bus - did send the names to Dutch publisher
Girl with a Hat said…
I think that they will play the card that Diana was killed by the BRF and that is why Harry is so angry with them, and why * calls them to task for every little thing they do wrong.

Mark my words.
From eHat Santa Barbara: (It even shows the flight path of the plane)

Weird Sign Flown Above Montecito

Neighbors and I spotted a very odd, and seemingly cruel, sign flown above Montecito on Saturday.

A small plane was going over the entire area circling above Montecito, and flying very low, carrying a large banner sign that reads “Prince Harry: Mum’s Fate Accidental?”

My neighbor looked up the plane’s registration (#N24242) and it appears to be based out of Santa Paula registered to “Sky Fly Ads LLC.”

Whoever did this, not only is it weird, but a cruel and distasteful thing to do to a one of our residents. Shame on you and the company for doing this.

https://www.edhat.com/news/weird-sign-flown-above-montecito/
Sandie said…
@Golden Retriever
The story about the low-flying plane with the banner flying over Montecito is more than two weeks old (well before the publication of Scobie's book) I think the person who posted about this from Montecito also provided a photograph.
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Kinsey Schofield has picked up some tea:

https://youtu.be/Akdb2-slXPY

The post about it is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18a8elr/kinsey_schofield_received_anonymous_tip_about/

She got the same tip-off as Neil Sean about Scobie picking up parcels from a hotel where hapless is known to stay. The speculation in this comment is interesting:

"And that’s why Omid swore on his grave, and his family’s lives that this was not a publicity stunt to increase sales. It wasn’t. They lost money. This was a total calculated attack on Catherine and the King, but mainly Catherine. That’s how they got that attack out there. That’s why he can sit there and smirk and snark when he says “I swear on my family‘s life that this is not a publicity stunt.” Because it wasn’t. That had nothing to do with publicity and sales, and everything to do with the attack on Catherine and getting that out there so that Meghan can then take it to the next level when she publishes her book."

Please note that the witch and Scobie both lied to a British court about not collaborating about FF. They were caught out then but got away with not being held accountable; they think they are so clever that they can get away with it again, and hapless is fully complicit.
re the delay in the flight from Northolt to Scotland when our beloved Queen was breathing her last:

I watched it in real time - that is, I was glued to the TV coverage.The Harkles had announced that they were going too, I'd seen the rest of the passengers board but the plane still waited, it seemed for H alone. I assumed that there was a hell of a row going on between H & *, with her refusing to let him go without her and I'm surer than ever now that this was the explanation, not Scobie's tripe.

Apparently, it was up to Wm to give the go-ahead for take-off. The plane sat on the tarmac for about 40mins IIRC until Wm must have given up on H. Hence they all lost their last chance to say goodbye to the Queen while she still lived.

Unforgivable.
Sandie said…
(Thomas Markle) He said: "Here we have another letter from my daughter which has somehow made it into the public domain. Another letter? Again?"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1841734/meghan-markle-thomas-markle-endgame-comment

He's not wrong!


Weird sign above Montecito -

Well, I think we can all hazard a guess at who's responsible. Ye Gods, that woman is sick, sick, sick.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prince-harry-three-day-battle-215201894.html

Sounds as if he's back in London by now.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1841877/omid-scobie-endgame-amazon-top-100

Scobie's book pulled from shop windows and drops out of Amazon best sellers' list
Humor Me said…
For discussion: The pulling of the Sussex titles will never happen as it will signal the end of the monarchy. If Parliament can pull the titles, what is to stop them from next pulling the title "Prince of Wales"? and so forth until the majority is for a republic? I wish I remember where I read this in my late night reading as it made sense: HMTLQ did not want the titles revoked, and KCIII appears reluctent to endorse the move. As much as I loather the thought of the Mountbatten-Windsors trading on that title, JCMH is still a blood prince - and so a title Prince/ Princess Henry of ?Wales will always be with us.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

H in court again re automatic police protection? Will this ever end? Since he has no reason to visit the UK - apart from this court case - as he's not visiting family, he doesn't need protection.

If * is responsible for the message then she's not very clever. 'Mum' is spelt the British way, she wouldn't have used the American spelling which would be too much of a giveaway. She's therefore trying to imply that the message comes from 'this one'. I don't believe, however, that H would have pulled that stunt.
Maneki Neko said…
Omid Scobie's new book Endgame has already dropped out of Amazon's top 100 current bestsellers list despite a blitz of publicity in the first week of its release.

Ouch! Not what Vomit expected, neither did the Harkles. All the nastiness, the lies, the attacks, have backfired. Let's hope this is the beginning of the end.
NeutralObserver said…
Just learned an interesting fact. Hugh, the Duke of Westminster, has Afro-European heritage. His mother,Natalia Grosvenor, is descended from the celebrated poet & author, Alexander Pushkin, whose great grandfather was Major General Abram Petrovich Gannibal, a nobleman of African descent. TW should chew on that fact for a while before she launches another racism attack on the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Grosvenor,_Duchess_of_Westminster#Marriage_and_issue
Neutral Observer et al:

I fear we may be perhaps in danger of applying the notorious `one drop rule' when categorising someone with a black ancestor generations back? Even in 1930s-19402 Germany there was a shorter, much shorter limit, on being considered of Jewish descent than that?

Taking it back to gt-grandparents and centuries beyond that is plain ridiculous - by that token, I'm mixed race, as was Charlotte of Mecklenburg- Strelitz.
Hikari said…
The pulling of the Sussex titles will never happen as it will signal the end of the monarchy. If Parliament can pull the titles, what is to stop them from next pulling the title "Prince of Wales"? and so forth until the majority is for a republic? I wish I remember where I read this in my late night reading as it made sense: HMTLQ did not want the titles revoked, and KCIII appears reluctent to endorse the move. As much as I loather the thought of the Mountbatten-Windsors trading on that title, JCMH is still a blood prince - and so a title Prince/ Princess Henry of ?Wales will always be with us.

I tend to agree. I know there's a huge outcry in certain quarters in the UK, including Parliament itself, for the titles to be revoked, along with Turnip's place in the LOS. The titles were bestowed by a previous monarch . . for the bearer's life. As another piece pointed out, Turnip is a Duke in name only, as it does not come with lands or domicile or income and he no longer represents the Royal family. Turnip is, as you say, a Prince of the blood. Stripping off the Dukedom will leave Prince and Princess Henry of Wales, which * will waste no time in styling, 'Princess Meghan of Wales' or, wait for it, "Meghan, Princess of Wales". She would totally do it. Semantics mean nothing to her. That wouldn't be tolerable at all. I've mentioned before but especially here in the States, no one who is not a hardcore Royal watcher would understand the nuances of titles of nobility. We simply have no frames of reference. To an average American, a Prince and Princess outrank a Duke or Duchess . . blame the Disney Princesses for that.

I'm wondering if CRIII and Parliament have recourse to remove Hazbeen from the LOS however on grounds of mental incapacity? Or demonstrable sedition against the Crown? Surely there must be some form of permanent consequences which can be levied for Harold's tragically short-sighted choices. More consequences than being financially cut off and disinvited from a society wedding. The titles and his standing at #5 are literally all this pathetic man has going for him in life--they comprise his entire self-concept and all he's got to peddle. There's no question that he would not be a fit servant for the Crown should he be called upon. Charles deftly sidestepped the whole CoS issue by appointing two extra deputies who are actually performing what HazNowt is supposed to be doing. He's not been removed but he's been rendered irrelevant and invisible. His standing in the LOS though feels like a tacit acceptance of his behavior if something isn't done about that.
Hikari said…
H in court again re automatic police protection? Will this ever end? Since he has no reason to visit the UK - apart from this court case - as he's not visiting family, he doesn't need protection.

Wasting yet more of his waning inheritance on lawyers. I wonder if Mr Sherbourne is going to bring up the currently circulating reports of an Islamic death warrant out on H? He might make some headway with his suit if those reports are viable.

One wonders if a sitting monarch can unilaterally disown a child such as H. He will always be a son of a King and a brother to another and on that basis believe he is entitled to the status of Internationally Protected Person, despite doing no work for the Crown. This goes back to the style of Prince . . Mr Harry Mountbatten-Windsor of Montecito would only be a private citizen but Henry of wales, son of the King is always going to think he's got a claim, no matter what he does.

Do I think Charles will disown his son? No, I don't. But the Crown has got to do something to neutralize the poisonous branch lest it infect the whole tree. Do we really have to watch this go on and on for the next 50 years?

If H had two functioning braincells left, he'd get a message to his father that he is now ready to surrender, divorce the witch and claim sanctuary in his homne country. Smeg would not follow him; perchance she is permanently banned from entering the UK. The prodigal son would be sheltered, be it in a bothy, if he gave up all claims to anything, including the right to mingle with his own family, if he let it be known that his literal life depended on getting away from *. But he won't do it; he's too far gone.

If * is responsible for the message then she's not very clever. 'Mum' is spelt the British way, she wouldn't have used the American spelling which would be too much of a giveaway. She's therefore trying to imply that the message comes from 'this one'. I don't believe, however, that H would have pulled that stunt.

That stunt sounds like it violated federal air safety laws, buzzing a residential neighborhood like that. That reeks of desperation, whoever arranged that little display knew the book was tanking before it even hit the shelves. That was attention-seeking writ large . .and also a cruel further devaluation of H, if he's not the one that did it. He doesn't have the nous to have thought of it, never mind booking the company. Wasn't there similar stunt done some years ago around the time 'Archie was born'? I'll have to look at the archives.

* is nothing if not derivative, especially of herself.

The rate things are going for them, H is worth more to her dead than alive. She wouldn't flinch at goading him into doing something drastic, imo. I feel that 2024 is going to be the Endgame for somebody but not the monarchy as they intended.
In 1919 king George V made HRH Princess Patricia of Connaught to give up all her royal titles when she married a commoner and afterwards she was known as Lady Patricia Ramsay.

Is Harry's treasonous behaviour a lesser sin than a mere marriage of olden days?
Fifi LaRue said…
As long as the Wales family does not all travel together by plane, leaving the LOS in place is going gray rock on the Turnips. Allowing them to keep their titles is also a gray rock move. Sukkits, Dumbarton, Kilkeel are all names no one in their right mind would envy. Taking any of those empty perks away would be like poking a harpy with a sharp stick. Skank has to make up sh*t in order to stay in the news.
Petunia said…
Why would either of them have been invited to the WH with the American Invictus team? He's not American and neither of them is an athlete or coach. I don't think it was any thoughtfulness on the issue by the Biden admin, which is notoriously inept on foreign policy issues.

Although it would have been fun to see her in a wrinkled, ill-fitting shorts suit trying to snag a microphone.
Hikari said…
Alianor,

If Patricia was ‘made’ to renounce her titles and her place in the LOS, it was something she did freely and willingly, was my impression. Even if the expectation to step down is presented as non-negotiable, there still seems to be an element of free Will involved with the title holder making this choice/sacrifice autonomously. Even if it’s just pro forma, noblesse oblige— It seems important that such a serious and irrevocable removal is undertaken by the individual, rather than them being ‘forced’. Lady Patricia did what Margaret wasn’t willing to do, Was she happy? Did she have regrets? If the latter, she seems to have been too discreet and dignified to have made that known. Of course, her choice was made quite a bit easier by the fact that she was far down the LOS. For Harold, as it was for great aunt Margaret, their proximity to the Crown makes it that much harder to give up the perks. I do have sympathy for the position of the spares. When they are born and throughout childhood and their young adulthood they are important figures in the court— A breath away from the Crown. But once the heir has children— The entire reason for which the spares were born evaporates. It’s the harshest form of redundancy. If you have a regular job and you are made redundant, You can take your skill set to another company and negotiate an equal or even better position than the one you left. But for a royal spare, where can you go, and what skills do you bring to the table apart from Being an understudy for a sibling you were born after? Harold is finding out that maybe being a spare wasn’t that bad. At least it came with room and board and clothing allowance. A lifetime of deference and a cadre of better minds working to make him look good made Doofus think he actually had something to offer apart from his supporting role in the RF. I don’t suppose anyone in the palace actually thought he would go this far. Had he been sincere about desiring a simple non-Royal life and being self-supporting, he’d have embraced being Mr Windsor of America. H wants to have his cake and eat it.

If H had been more like Lady Patricia and less like Edward VIII, he could have lived in America and still been cordial with the family. Alas, we’ve got what we’ve got.
Hikari said…
Petunia—

Fair point about the Harkles’ status with IG…but H is their patron, at least still in name, and he’s living in the States. Yes, it’s on the opposite end of the country but it’s hard to imagine that since he’s domestic, the prospect of having him come and take a photo with the team and have lunch with them wasn’t even floated. If his reputation were better, and he was the person anyone wanted to spend time with these days, such an invite might have been extended. I am sure a Harry free event suited everyone fine.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/12/05/01/78578603-12825771-image-a-33_1701741305197.jpg

look at how she clenches her jaw. She must have a lot of inner tension. She's going to break her teeth
Hikari
How voluntary princess Patricia's choise was is debatable. The truth is her marriage was "morganatic" and it was not acceptable in the royal circles in 1919. But that was not my point. A born princess could be made a mere lady by a royal decision therefore prince Harry could be made lord Harry by a royal decision.

Or not?
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12825771/meghan-markle-california-omid-scobie-royal-racists.html

The predictable pap walk in Santa Barbara. Lots of clear photographs, which were sold to Backgrid.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

Like you, I don't think Charles will disown his wayward son, this would be a bridge too far. I wonder, however, if he can apply some pressure on the duo to divorce, with an offer* couldn't refuse. It would hurt me to see good money going to that skank but it might be cheaper in the long run. H could be back in the fold with the children, if they exist, even if in a bothy as you said.



Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12826681/meghan-markle-new-balance-santa-barbara.html?ito=social-youtubecommunity

DM trying to create a 'reconciliation' story, just for the drama.

@GWAH
I also noticed the tension in her jaw and neck in those pap photos.

The original DM story claims she has been to the gym. Nonsense! Who goes to the gym wearing jewellery like that? And why would her and hapless go to a gym when they have a fully equipped gym at home?
Sandie said…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/10/prince-harry-high-court-claim-mail-publisher-can-continue-judge-rules

The court case against DM has been given permission to proceed, but the claimants may not use the "leaked copies of documents that were confidentially supplied to the Leveson inquiry by the Daily Mail".
Sandie said…
Supposedly changes are going to be made to the RF website:

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More on this today from inside sources: Edits to “H&M section planned as part of major RF website update. Coincide with other updates” ‼️ Source says “changes not made [only to them]. Their prominence to be lessened in a subtle way & [rolled into overall changes] in new year”!

https://twitter.com/BarkJack_/status/1731693126887112796
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I doubt that the changes will be accurate or significant enough to draw a line under the sordid affair once and for all. Supposedly Neil Sean has said that the witch herself asked for her photograph on the RF website be changed for a more flattering and update one.
NeutralObserver said…
@WBBM, TW has weaponized her biracial heritage, when as you say, millions of us are mixed race, so it's really no big deal. I was actually very disappointed when 2 DNA testing companies found that I was depressingly vanilla, not a drop of African, Indigenous, etc. blood, & my family has always been very liberal about race, boringly straight-laced, though.

@alianor d'aquitaine, @hHikari,LOL, if ever there was a marriage that fell into the category of 'morganatic,' the Todgers' is it. It's hard to tell what KCIII & the gov't will cook up for the duo, although behind the scenes there seems to be quite a bit of the proverbial Windsor iciness to family members who threaten or embarrass the Crown. Look at how they treated the Duke of Windsor, a former king. Prince Andrew was supposedly the Queen's favorite son, & they mostly only allow him to pop up going on what is hopefully an improving visit to church with them.I don't believe any stories about the firm softening up toward the Montecito couple.If TW ever becomes Princess Henry, we'll have to go back to calling her Princess Poontang.

@Sandie, @GWAH, It's always funny to see how the DM trolls TW with it's choice of photos. They print some real doozies. I'm surprised TW hasn't more obviously resorted to fillers to repair the damage that Ozempic has done to her skin. I actually think a woman is still beautiful with lines, but TW hasn't appeared to think that in the past. 72-year old Jane Seymour still looks great, & she doesn't seem to have bothered to freeze up her face. TW's skin is beginning look like Janes', & she's half her age.

Something to laugh at: The woker than woke Guardian has printed a hilarious send up of It and Thing's book:

https://archive.ph/5RS7V

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/dec/04/omid-scobie-endgame-digested-read-john-crace

The Scabies alter-ego calls Catherine, 'that cow.'
The latest pap shots of * put me in mind of the skeletons in a Danse Macabre - from certain angles she looks really cadaverous. The sunglasses suggest empty eye sockets, her hands are just skin and bone and, as we used to say, there's more meat on a butcher's apron than on her legs.

Not a good look, all self-inflicted presumably.
NeutralObserver said…
With all of the complex and depressing issues in the headlines these days, I'm almost grateful to the Todgers for providing so much distraction & amusement. They are such an easy to understand situation, a spoiled, volatile & ungrateful son, & a grasping, attention loving loon who unwisely married into a stuffy & very traditionalist family.

This will be an unpopular opinion, but I wonder if KDIII would prefer that UK taxpayers, & taxpayers elsewhere get stuck with the Todgers' security costs, so he won't have to draw from his own wealth for their security should the need arise. I don't think it would be a popular decision with the public, however. He should read the room before he starts pulling any hidden strings.
Sandie said…
Just a reminder that this is the source of the 'racist' accusation against Charles, as told by Christopher Anderson, who wants us to believe that the staff at Clarence House and St James are all repeating personal conversations to him. All the tabloids, Tom Bower, and everyone else keeps repeating this story, which is complete fiction. Scobie simply repeated this (may have had 'confirmation' from his two besties in Montecito) and then added a made-up accusation against Catherine. The only credible piece of information we have is that hapless said he was shocked by a conversation he had with someone before the engagement and that he would never give the name of the person he had the conversation with. If he could remember and speak the truth he could clear this all up once and for all but he tried to cover up the lies his wife told in the Oprah interview when he was not present by a ridiculous denial and a claim of unconscious bias.

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“I WONDER WHAT THE children will look like?” Prince Charles mused to his wife over breakfast at Clarence House.“Well, absolutely gorgeous, I’m certain,” replied Camilla, taken aback somewhat by the question. “Is there any doubt? Look at them. Marvelous looking couple.”“I mean,” said the Prince of Wales, lowering his voice, “what do you suppose their children’s complexion might be?”“We’ll find out eventually, I suppose, won’t we?” the Duchess of Cornwall replied before changing the subject. Aware of the household staff members circulating within earshot, Camilla was significantly more circumspect than Charles—the result of decades spent masterminding their clandestine affair.

It did not take long for Harry to be told by one of the Men in Gray that there were “apprehensions” about how dark a baby of his and Meghan Markle’s might be—that if he or she was “too brown,” it might look “strange.” Soon, what might have begun as a benign question became the subject of intense conversation between Charles and Harry. “At the time,” Harry later recalled, “it was awkward. I was a bit shocked.” The Prince of Wales said that his son was perhaps being “overly sensitive about the matter,” said a St. James’s Palace staffer, “and when Harry went to his brother for help, William stood up for their father. The whole thing just got out of hand.””
Girl with a Hat said…
It's funny that the British are accused of being so racist when their queen whom they revered, was married to someone who had a lot of German blood, and this, only a few years after a major world war which pitted both countries against each other.

Pretty tolerant if you ask me.
Hikari said…
@Maneki

Like you, I don't think Charles will disown his wayward son, this would be a bridge too far. I wonder, however, if he can apply some pressure on the duo to divorce, with an offer* couldn't refuse. It would hurt me to see good money going to that skank but it might be cheaper in the long run. H could be back in the fold with the children, if they exist, even if in a bothy as you said.

I think we can agree that whatever mistakes Charles made with his secondborn, including the infamous disappointment at the ginger boy's birth, he's paying for them now. You know, at the time Diana published her hit piece on Charles via Andew Morton in 1992, the world was in her corner. Charles said a terrible thing about his new baby, but it was unguarded, spontaneous and he had the expectation that it was a private remark to his wife. Never mind that she lied to him all along about the baby's gender, which led to his ill-advised though in hindsight kind of understandable disappointment that H was not the promised and expected daughter. That certainly wasn't the baby's fault. Diana was so intent on scoring points against Charles and making people hate him for that that she apparently never considered that H would have that careless remark dogging him in the public domain for life; that he would be told or read it for himself one day that in that moment at least, his father hadn't wanted him. If Diana had considered her child's feelings as more important that her petty revenge, she would have kept that conversation to herself. She marks that moment as the moment the marriage died . . fair enough, but she got her own back 8 years later, at Harry's expense. We will never know if H could have grown up into a happier more functional person if his mother had kept her counsel and never gotten sexually involved with her red-haired riding instructor. Charles gets dumped on because he's the surviving parent, but I'm sorry, the sainted Diana has much to answer for in sowing the seeds of discontent and self-loathing in the young Harry.

The more we ruminate on this situation the more tragic and wasteful of so many lives it seems.

I think Charles deeply regretted what he said and has earnestly tried to make it up to H but the consequence is that H is irrevocably spoilt as a human being. Some early hurts can't be made up for.

QEII commanded Charles's own divorce when the public relations damage Diana was inflicting became too great to sustain. I'd say Crank and Skank have surpassed that now, so the time has come for Charles to demand the same. The marriage was always questionable in the first place . . it did not seem on the day that H was undertaking this solemn vow entirely of his own free will. Coercion voids a legal contract, whatever it is, if one of the parties is under duress. Rumor has it that * turned down a hefty payment to go away and leave H alone prior to the wedding but she judged rightly that she could bilk a whole lot more out of the family as a Duchess. Grifters gonna grift. Now that her visions of fantasy billions as a free-range Royal have blown up in smoke, she might be more amenable to a settlement, but . . The Duke of Wellington's dictum comes to mind . .Never give into a blackmailer because regardless of what they promise, they will keep returning to the trough.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

Never give into a blackmailer because regardless of what they promise, they will keep returning to the trough.

Quite. I was thinking along the same lines when I wrote my post this morning but was on the bus and got to my destination so pressed 'publish'. If, and this is a big if, Charles told the Harkles to divorce, there would have to be stringent conditions, viz. one payment only, no interviews or articles, no 'revelations', controlled access to the children (if real). Take it or leave it and H ordered back to the UK and no contact with *.

NeutralObserver said…
Obviously my coffee hadn't done its work in my post about Jane Seymour. Jane is only 30 years older than TW, not twice her age.
NeutralObserver said…
Another nice take down of the disastrous duo in a Scottish newspaper, courtesy of SMM.

https://archive.ph/Yqi4j
NeutralObserver said…
Incredibly, the Todgers are claiming that Mr. Todger got a 'save the date' card from the Duke of Westminster for his June wedding, but Todger allegedly graciously declined an invite so that he wouldn't cause any discomfort to anyone. Does anyone believe that? Page Six has the scoop, straight from Ms. Todger's lips no doubt. Did someone at WME make fun of her, so she had to retaliate for all of the humiliation?

Be sure and click on the comments, Juanito, who seems to be another version of Guest Speaker, i.e., TW, claims that Catherine wants a physical fight with TW, because the PW is so insanely jealous of TW. It sounds as though someone is insane, but not the PW.This really is becoming popcorn munching stuff.

https://pagesix.com/2023/12/05/royal-family/prince-harry-skips-wedding-to-avoid-meghan-kate-clash/

A palate cleanser, also from Page Six, The Princess of Wales looking very pretty.

https://pagesix.com/2023/12/05/style/kate-middleton-picks-pink-sequined-gown-princess-dianas-tiara-for-diplomatic-reception/
Girl with a Hat said…
Lady C called * an anus today.
Girl with a Hat said…
The last blind item at CDAN has a transcript of Lady C's remarks today.

It sounds like Lady C is working on a book about the megnancies.

Also, further down, a poster who has previously said that she has family that are pretty high up in Scotland Yard, and is constantly saying that MI6 and MI5 are keeping surveillance on the duo, also says that *'s autobiography has been turned down 3 times by publishers.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/12/blind-item-13_0788765163.html#disqus_thread
Maneki Neko said…
Latest Harry Markle blog: Canucks Autism Acceptance Night & Invictus Vancouver/ Whistler executives fired, H's legal challenges, titles & CoS and of course, the book.
@NeutralObserver

Very interesting... the 'Courier' and `Evening Telegraph' are papers published in Dundee and are generally regard as `local papers', equivalent to, say, the `Southern Evening Echo' in Southampton I imagine. Not Nationals like the Scotsman or the Record.

Especially interesting as Dundee has a reputation for strong Scottish Nationalism.

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I don't believe the story about a `save the date' communication.

It is considered bad form to invite people too early, in effect issuing a `three-line whip', - it gives them no chance of declining by pleading a `prior engagement'. Potentially, it creates embarrassment, something to be avoided at all costs in upper class circles.

It's caught on in though in the less elevated circlesh. It can be an absolute pain to have no escape from a `Dress-code wedding' when one is uncomfortable with being told what to wear. We had that with a family `Highland' wedding - dead pretentious and hell for a husband who hasn't got the knee or calves for kilt.
Maneki Neko said…
Endgame indeed. Scooby Do's "book sold just 6,448 copies in Britain in its first five days despite storm of controversy - and has now plunged to 215 on the Amazon 'bestsellers' list". As far as I know, that's the number bought by bookshops, which doesn't translate as number bought by customers. I think this spells a crystal clear message to Scobie and the Harkles.


@Wild Boar

I don't believe the story about a `save the date' communication.

Neither do I. It smacks of a face saving exercise by H or H & wifey.
This doesn't make sense:

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-princess-kate-show-155454640.html

King Charles and Princess Kate to show 'united' front during reunion at palace as Meghan Markle shows support for father-in-law'

It's from Hello! - more like `'Ello, 'ello, 'ello, what's goin' on 'ere then?
Opus said…
You good ladies know what is what when it comes to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle but one must remember that most people are going to have a far less critical view of the couples carryings on. Was there ever a time when the Royal Family or one of its members was not being criticised for something - real or imaginary. It is our national sport to pour our frustrations into the inadequacies of that family. In the 1950s Malcolm Muggeridge on exiting BH was punched on the nose by an ardent Monarchist for St Mugg's published view that the RF was a soap opera.

I was watching Jonathan King's Youtube channel yesterday; he was in Paris and announced 'this is where Lady Di died'. As his car was above ground and not in a tunnel I understood the dark underpass where she was killed to be beneath the surface of that very road. Somehow things seem the worse in ones imagination than in the reality of the light of day. The idea often propounded that the RF had her killed strikes me as preposterous beyond any level of preposterousness.

When it comes to race one must be colour-blind and I have often found people of Meghan Markles racial characteristics to have very then skin (metaphorically) such that one is always saying the wrong thing and upsetting them. I do not understand the insecurity though I see it is a perfect way to grift.

This morning the Mail devoted its front page to a photo of the King and Queen the P and Pcess of W. The Harkles can only dream of that sort of free public approval which may perhaps make alteration to the LoS not really necessary desirable though it may be.
Things may be getting hot for H in US:

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-harry-accused-bragging-illegal-200555822.html

Prince Harry accused of ‘bragging about illegal drug use’ in his memoir

Sorry, it's behind a paywall.
OKay said…
@GWAH Lady C actually said "Her mouth is dirtier than your or my anus." Which is a bit shocking coming from an aristocrat, but facts is facts, as they say.
Sandie said…
The Vintage Read:

https://youtu.be/hLNIAm3BRu4?si=b0LmdKbx9ypW2KNT

I think she may be correct: Andrew, Sarah, Eugenie and maybe even Beatrice spoke to Scobie. Perhaps not directly but through the couple in Mudslide Manor?
NeutralObserver said…
@WBBM, I'm absolutely on the same page as you. It sounds completely fabricated. I've seen several comments that in UK aristocratic circles, save the date notifications are not the done thing.

It's very hard to know what is actually going on in Montecito (or behind Palace walls), but I can't think that it's the proverbial bed of roses in California, regardless of what is in their actual garden. (They may not even be really living there.)
OKay said…
This is the story in Yahoo! referenced by WBBM (I don't know why it's not behind a paywall for me!)...

Prince Harry has been accused of “bragging and encouraging illegal drug use” in the latest court filing calling for the Duke’s US visa application to be released.

In his controversial memoir, Spare, The Duke of Sussex described taking cocaine, marijuana and psychedelic mushrooms, saying “psychedelics did me some good”.

Following its publication, think tank the Heritage Foundation sued the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), questioning why the Duke was allowed into the US in 2020, and why he had been allowed to stay.

The Biden administration has pushed back, with lawyers arguing visa applications are “private personal information”.

But the Heritage Foundation has said the former royal waived his right to privacy when he “sold every aspect of his private life for, in some estimates, over $135 million”, adding that his claims of his right to privacy have been “met with widespread public ridicule”.

In a court filing, the think tank claims the Duke had “voluntarily – and for immense profit – admitted in writing to the elements of any number of controlled substance violations. (Indeed, some say HRH has approached the point of bragging and encouraging illegal drug use.)”

Adverse immigration consequences
They said he had made the revelations “despite the fact that it is widely known that such admissions can have adverse immigration consequences for non-citizens and despite employing preeminent legal advisers on both sides of the Atlantic.”

The “case is further bespoke in that HRH—again for immense profit—detailed his immigration decisions and manner of entry in writing and via Netflix video”, they added, Newsweek reported.

The think tank said the Duke’s status as a public figure “significantly reduces his privacy interests”.

“The Duke of Sussex must take the good with the bad. Having sold all manner of private matters for profit—including specific details on his taking up residence in the United States and every detail of his years of illegal drug use to the point of braggadocio—HRH must accept a substantially diminished privacy interest,” the filing adds.

It had previously been suggested in expert witness submission that the Duke may have been granted a diplomatic visa, which would have allowed him access to the US without answering the drug questionnaire.

The State Department has not confirmed whether this is the case, with an official saying the department “does not comment publicly on a foreign mission’s accredited personnel”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNIAm3BRu4 - from Sandie's link.

Suggestion that RF members (Yorks) are involved in feeding Harkles info. It's elicited a whole load of comments.

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Charles's alleged `weakness - he made no attempt to counter Di's accusations, presumably because the response would've been `Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?'

Damned whether he does or doesn't.
Fifi LaRue said…
Hmmm. The Dook of Turnip is not a foreign mission's accredited personnel in any way, shape, or form.
Hikari said…
Suggestion that RF members (Yorks) are involved in feeding Harkles info. It's elicited a whole load of comments.

I struggle to comprehend what benefit there could possibly be to any member of the York family by aligning themselves, however tangentially with the nasty embittered idiot Spare and his grifting showgirl with the backdoor orifice for a mouth according to Lady C.

Eugenie and WAAAGH have similar positions, sharing that 'Add-On' birth order. Charles was initally disappointed to not have a daughter the second time round; perhaps Andrew was likewise disappointed in having another girl. We have evidence that E. was acquainted with Potty-Mouth during the Toronto Soho days. Potty-Mouth cultivated some of E.'s circle and attended some of the same parties. Was that just a coincidence . . and opportunity presented itself to get to H through his cousin? Or did Potty-Mouth expressly target E.'s friends with this goal in view, always? Potty-Mouth honed in on the weakest link for sure.

I've observed before that this vaunted super close bond between H and his younger York cousin does not feel organic and authentic to me. There is a 6 year gap in age, which is enormous in childhood. E. would have still been in nappies when H went off to big-boy school. When he would've graduated Eton and gone to Sandhurst, she'd have been 12.

The 13-year-old Elizabeth caught the eye of her 18-year-old cousin, but that relationship, and the principals were in every respect unusual. ER was born an old soul. I can't imagine arrogant, entitled H chucking a rock at his much younger female cousin except to torment her in some way. There is balcony footage of Diana and Fergie at TTC in 1991. H, at the time not yet 7, picked on 21/2 year old Beatrice, shoving and putting hands on her. if Diana hadn't intervened, H might have pushed her over the balcony, Damien-style. His face had that blank yet mean look he often wore. Probably jealous that a cute younger blond girl was stealing his thunder. E. was at that time a babe in arms.

So H, when he was grown up (in a mannter of speaking) . . an Army guy, hitting the clubs suddenly got so tight with his York cousins once they were old enough to drink? And E. continued(es) to act as H's mole in the family even after he used his precedence to shove her aside in order to steal her wedding date? Then there was the stunt Potty-Mouth pulled six months later on E.'s own day. That would have been the final straw for me and all contact would have ceased forthwith.

Andrew is certainly not going to be giving Potty-Mouth or her lickspittle minions any infomation to benefit her. We've not forgotten the Scarlet Wall of York on the TTC balcony in 2019. Why would Beatrice, now disgustingly wealthy and the chatelaine of an Italian castle do anything for the Harkles? Sarah is a walking case of verbal incontinence who speaks without thinking and has always done, but has she forgotten how Harry's wife treated her daughters? I should think not. Andrew and Sarah had their own Royal grift going on for many years but aiding and abetting the Harkles does not benefit the House of York in any way. Is the hatred for Charles so deep, and William by extension that the York family sucking up to the Harkles is not from any feeling of amity but a case of The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: You are so genteel. I'm going with Duchess Anus Mouth.
Ian's Girl said…
Oh, I can absolutely see the Yorkies wanting to do anything to put Charles in a bad light.

Bea less so, because I think her husband's family are close to the Royals, and honestly not Sarah either, because if the monarchy falls, she is even less important, but do you really think Andrew isn't happy to see his brother being tormented? And that his daughters would be happy to avenge their father by providing fodder for said tormentors? Or upset that they aren't working Royals, despite being generally popular with the public? I have no trouble believing that someone as immature as Harry, who is a self admitted substance abuser, would be close to his equally immature and hard partying cousin. We know Eug was friends with Nutmeg, who is even older than Harry. That is by far weirder to me, but we know it's true.

I suppose it's also possible Nutmeg is blackmailing Andrew somehow with stories from her yachting days, but one would think that sword would be cutting the other way.

I do find it hard to believe that any of the Yorks are in a position to have any insider info, however. Second or 3rd hand hearsay from staff they remained in touch with maybe, but highly unlikely. Palace gossip is all I can imagine them being privy to. I just don't see Charles or William having any sort of deep communications/conversations or plans sharing with any of the Yorks, even without the bad blood we know exists. I suppose if the gossip is accurate they could still fo plenty of damage leaking it.

Sandie said…
This is the most bizarre and delusional article:

https://archive.ph/2023.12.07-101254/https://flatplanplus.io/closer/2023/11/24/meghan-taunts-royals-with-new-hollywood-role-2/#selection-243.0-247.230

Meghan Markle is back in the spotlight after rubbing shoulders with two of the most powerful women in Hollywood – hinting at a move back into acting and producing.
Last week, the Duchess of Sussex attended the ‘Power of Women’ gala in Los Angeles and revealed on the red carpet that she and Prince Harry were working on future projects.
“We have so many exciting things on the slate,” she said. “I can’t wait until we can announce them. We’re just really proud of what we’re creating, and my husband is loving it too.”
Meghan’s reinvention as a Hollywood producer comes after her and Harry’s standing in A-list circles has reportedly dwindled over recent months thanks to the big players in Tinsel Town allegedly keeping their distance – due to the controversy of the tell-all Netflix documentary series Harry & Meghan, as well as Harry’s bombshell memoir Spare – damaging relationships with Prince William and Kate Middleton.
But an insider explains that any fallout could soon be forgotten with the former Suits star working hard to slot back into the inner A-list circle.
“Meghan was totally in her element at this event, she got the full-on A-list treatment and was seated at the best table in the place alongside Oprah. That went a long way to boosting her confidence and calming any nerves she had leading up to the event,” they say.
“Everyone was coming over to kiss up to her. It really hit home and made her swell with pride that she was the main event and centre of attention, recognised not just for her celebrity or connections to Harry, but as a pioneer and leader amongst the most impressive of peers.”
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have not had the easiest search for success following their announcement to step down as senior members of the Royal Family in January 2020.
The pair moved to Meghan’s home state of California and signed multimillion-dollar deals with Spotify and Netflix, in the form of Meghan’s podcast Archetypes and Netflix series Harry & Meghan last year.
But the podcast in which the Duchess interviewed celebrities, activists and experts to explore “labels that try to hold women back” was scrapped after 12 episodes. The Sussexes were also criticised for low content output on Netflix.
However, following this collapse, reports suggest the husband and wife are changing direction in planning to produce multi-million Netflix film Meet Me At The Lake.
Meghan and Harry bought the rights to the £3m romance fiction novel about a couple who meet in their 30s, which has some parallels to their own relationship, including one of the characters losing a parent in a car crash.
And now it seems Meghan may be set on this career path as a new direction for the Sussex brand as an insider reveals, “Meghan’s telling people how all this hard work and schmoozing is finally paying off. The entertainment world is very much her oyster right now and will be that way long into the future.
“For a good while she was hung up on wooing the Clooney and Obama types but now that’s no longer the plan because she’s come to the conclusion they’re actually rivals who might never want to help or associate with her.
“Make no mistake, Meghan’s ego and self-belief is higher now than it’s ever been. She’s going to enjoy this 2024 rollout and longs for the day William, Kate and others are crawling on their hands and knees asking her for favours.”
Sandie said…
The lunacy continues:

Meghan’s recent mingling with big players, including American film producer Janet Yang, who made her name working for Steven Spielberg, and Pearlena Igbokwe, the Nigerian-born chairman of Universal Studio Group, has left the Duchess feeling like a ‘bona fide Hollywood queen’, the source explains.
“This type of buzz is a thousand times more exciting and rewarding than what she experienced back in England. Instead of being suffocated and controlled within an outdated, mouldy old system, Meghan’s being lauded and wooed by the biggest names in entertainment on the planet – and building a legacy that will go on forever in her name.
“That’s everything she ever dreamed of and now it’s here, she’s going to savour and relish every single moment.”
This hunger for power is only made stronger knowing the royals and her other critics across the pond are observing her reach a new level of star power.
“This is what drives Meghan, without question,” the source says. “But what’s even sweeter is that she doesn’t have to sing and dance or grovel for these opportunities – so she says – because they’re all coming her way organically. And that’s one hell of a triumph, especially in Hollywood where it’s hard to get to that whole new level.”
With the SAG strike over, Hollywood wants to produce new content – so it’s no surprise the Duchess praised the ‘everlasting impact’ of her TV series ‘Suits’ at the gala, the show she made her name on.
Though a Sussex spokesman denied Meghan had plans to return to acting, there’s no denying the Sussexes need money coming in with some experts estimating she could make up to £1million an episode in the US and earn more than £2million producing a film.
“Meghan’s looking forward to directing movies,” our source says. “She’s saying there are stacks of options in her in-tray and she’s taking her time to choose the one that deserves her attention the most.
“In her mind she’s a genius who’s now in this unique position whereby she can mentor and educate others, nurturing talent and highlighting important causes.
“Harry will have a big role in this of course, but it’s Meghan who’s very much driving the bus here. She has huge things planned with The Tig’s relaunch – think the biggest names in wellness and lifestyle on the planet, plus investment that will take it way past any of its rivals like GOOP. If anything, she figures the likes of Gwyneth and Reese will be looking for her help and investment, not so much the other way around.”
It seems Meghan is on the cusp of reinventing herself as the queen of Hollywood, eager to be the one calling the shots, leaving her royal associations well and truly behind her.
The source adds, “She has had some seriously hard knockdowns in the past year, but she’s taken the time out to regroup and she’s now started her comeback and bragging that this time, she’s going to rise right to the top, and doesn’t need to ride anyone’s coat tails to do it.
“The sky is the limit for Meghan now and she’s convinced it won’t be long before she’s feted and recognised by everyone – royals included – for this stunning success story she feels is so richly deserved.”

Sandie said…
One member of the Royal Family told me that my naming decision had "lanced a boil that was long overdue lancing".

.....

This does indeed feel like an Endgame - only for the Sussexes as influential royals, not the Monarchy.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24964677/piers-morgan-photo-message-harry-meghan/
Nella said…
Anyone here read this ?
https://percrucem.quora.com/WHO-INITIATED-THE-INJUNCTION-THE-PALACE-MARKLE-or-BOTH-OF-THEM-What-injunction-It-is-being-talked-about-almost?ch=15&oid=138854119&share=fb0cf7b5&srid=uyPw62&target_type=post
Fifi LaRue said…
@Sandie: I have to dash off now, can't read the articles fully, but the lunatic article was most definitely written by Anus Mouth.
It will be fun to see what her mind is telling her. Holy cow she's a lunatic.
OKay said…
@Sandie OMG that article is HILARIOUS. I get the impression that Scoobie's fingerprints are all over it - way, way OTT ridiculous statements about the bim are his stock in trade.
Hikari said…
@Ian’s Girl

Andrew has always had animosity for his brother, like the other Spare we know, And passed along his snobbishness and discontent to his daughters, who famously made life very difficult for Catherine in the early years as William’s girlfriend. Eugenie still radiates contempt for William and Catherine, while her sister is much more deferential now at least in public.

Harry is a Wales and Has been lording that position over the Yorks all his life. How are most uncle Andy feel to be out ranked by that little shit who is his nephew? He steamrolled right over E.’s wedding plans due to his entitlement. If only, if only— The Queen had intervened and told H that there would be no Royal wedding for him and his actress for one year And let E. wed in May. Harry’s girlfriend might have buggered right off when faced with a delay, And she wouldn’t have been able to pretend to be pregnant at E.’s wedding. Well, she could, but she wouldn’t of been invited and there isn’t the same cachet pretending to be knocked up pre-marriage.

Perhaps Andrew still hates his brother the King, but Mummy isn’t here to protect him any more. In his greatly reduced position, does it really benefit him to undermine Charles and William? William will be the one to decide if Andrew’s daughters might play a greater role in future. The situation with his residency at Royal Lodge remains delicate. If Charles has dropped the idea to make Andrew move out, which he seems to have done for the moment, why would Andy want to poke the bear? Destabilizing Charles only makes his fringe position more precarious. And even though he might hate Charles, playing into the Harkles’ agenda only does them favors, Gets them publicity. If anyone in the York family is feeding the Harkles information— It would have to be chicken feed because who tells the Yorks anything?— Then Andrew and his daughters are essentially working for Harry and Mattress. I think Andrew would find that untenable. As things stand, on paper at least Harry’s Mattress outranks his daughters. Abetting her even at Charles’ expense feels too high a price. Andrew hates her And I wouldn’t imagine has too much love lost for his knobhead nephew.
Sandie

That article sounded very disturbed. Megalomaniac truly and strongly. Mad cackling sounds are probably heard round Montecito. She needs a room with very soft walls and a straitjacket.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

What a load of tripe from that Closer magazine in the links you provided! * is always boasting about her future projects and, as we know, they usually never amount to anything. ... the former Suits star working hard to slot back into the inner A-list circle. Slot back? She was never part of the inner A-list circle! “Everyone was coming over to kiss up to her. Sure. This is vomit inducing. As for 'the Clooney and Obama types' being rivals... This is beyond a joke. As you said in the second part, the lunacy continues when the article states 'the likes of Gwyneth and Reese will be looking for her help and investment, not the other way around.' Did * pay someone to write this piece of bovine excrement? The delusions are frightening. At least I had good laugh.
abbyh said…

That wording of how all these other established at X will be worried, come to her for help, yada has the same DNA as after the Down Under Tour, the various BRF members were in fear of being outshined.

I don't see that showing up as anon on my side when you sent that. Try and if there is a problem, I will let you know.

And, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate them.
Maneki Neko said…
More delusions? This is about his case against the Home Office re police protection.

Prince Harry has said the UK 'is my home' and he was 'forced' to 'step back' from royal duties and leave the country for the US. Forced to step back? No one forced him, he could have stayed and now he'd be supporting Charles and William, had he married the 'right' wife. He sounds insincere when he says the UK is his home, he's made the US his home. It sounds as if he and wifey have a distorted sense of reality and live in a parallel universe.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-meghan-children-high-court-home-office-safe-b1125507.html#:~:text=Prince%20Harry%20says%20in%20High,he%20was%20'forced'%20to%20leave&text=The%20Duke%20of%20Sussex%20believes,the%20High%20Court%20has%20heard.
@Nella
re Anyone here read this ?

https://percrucem.quora.com/WHO-INITIATED-THE-INJUNCTION-THE-PALACE-MARKLE-or-BOTH-OF-THEM-What-injunction-It-is-being-talked-about-almost?ch=15&oid=138854119&share=fb0cf7b5&srid=uyPw62&target_type=post

..........

Gosh, Nella, thanks for this Quora item - I, like most others I imagine, assumed that the RF had put an embargo on any Press discussion of the megnancies. It didn't occur to me that a super-injunction could have been created in favour of the Harkles, even at their instigation.

Lady C always stresses `for legal reasons' in a very meaningful way, like how the BBC says the phrase when mentioning why underage defendants/offenders cannot be named. It is expressly forbidden by law, via a Court Order, as opposed to a simple agreement between Palace and Press. We should be very careful careful what we say...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-injunctions_in_English_law

also this:
`This should mean that super- injunctions will only be granted in very limited circumstances and, at least normally, for very short periods of time.'

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Reports/super-injunction-report-20052011.pd
Maneki Neko said…
Re the super injunction, if there is one, is supposed to expire in the spring as per Quora. Maybe all hell will break loose then. Is this the long awaited kraken? Let's hope.
Maneki Neko said…
Re the Quora pix in the link submitted by @Nella, there is a glaringly obvious discrepancy between the bump on 16 January and the one on 7 February, so three weeks later. I didn't research the dates but they are accurate, the in January * looked about 7 months pregnant or nearly but in February she looked about 4 months pregnant. I can't remember the particular events and dates but these sort bump pix have been well reported and too numerous to be an error/the effect of the light/the angle of the pix etc.

Perhaps the RF realised too late the pregnancy was dodgy and couldn't do very much then - too late to confront the claw and ask her to say she's had a miscarriage if the bump by then looked about 6 months. Maybe this is why they were banished to Canada/the US (the only reason Harold could say he was forced to leave the UK).
Maneki Neko said…
I tried to find out more about the alleged super injunction. The following doesn't give a straight answer but is interesting nevertheless, revealing without saying anything.

https://tattle.life/threads/harry-meghan-251-low-key-grifter-moon-bump-faker-wrecked-on-tv-by-the-candlestick-maker.33812/page-48
VetusSacculi said…
@Maneki Neko - he's a lying toerag. He told Hoda Kotb in April 2022 in his Invictus Games interview that he thinks of the US as home. I'd bet he's so drug-addled that he has little remembrance of what he's said in the past which is why lying seems to come so easily to him and he just says what he's told to.
OCGal said…
@Nella, thanks for the Quora link. I enjoyed reading the post and all the comments.
Maneki Neko said…
So much for * slotting back into the inner A list circle😆

Meghan Markle's Hollywood relaunch is 'not going to plan' and may already have been scuppered because the royal race row sparked by Omid Scobie's new book could make her 'too hot to handle', experts told MailOnline today.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12837793/meghan-markle-omid-scobie-endgame-book.html#:~:text=Meghan%20Markle%27s%20Hollywood%20relaunch%20is,%27%2C%20experts%20told%20MailOnline%20today.
Fifi LaRue said…
Re: the article that Anus Mouth is going to take over Hollywood, and eclipse Gwyneth and Reese. The delusion is breathtaking. Where Anus Mouth really belongs is in a locked psych ward. She's had a significant break with reality. Psychosis? The Dook could have her committed; there are certainly grounds for commitment.
So there we have it - we're told everything without anything being said.
Ian's Girl said…
@Hikari, excellent points! Oh to be a fly on the wall.

I always thought my family had drama, but I guess every family does.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12838833/Prince-Harry-Meghan-children-UK-safe-High-Court-hears-security.html

This is pathetic. He does get protection when he visits the UK but he has to give notice that he is visiting and what security he is provided is 'bespoke' in that it is assessed for each visit. But here he is whining that he is 'entitled' to more and saying he was forced to leave.
Hikari said…
That article sounded very disturbed. Megalomaniac truly and strongly. Mad cackling sounds are probably heard round Montecito. She needs a room with very soft walls and a straitjacket.

There's definitely a break with reality in there. Mattress has been trumpeting the very same grandioaw-yet-entirely unsupported "Return to the A-List!!" since January 2020 and Megxit.

Is there anyone still under the delusion that she was ever on the A-List? She was an unemployed Z-list cable performer in her late 30s who had gone nowhere in two decades of fantasy about being a star. She snagged Lump with the last gasp of her aging sex appeal, what was left of it. Gwyneth, Reese et. al have been pointedly ignoring her these last 5+ years. Reese threw the wedding invite in the trash . . and we are still waiting to see the Montesh*ts grace any of Gwynnie's beach parties--that was promised some months ago.

Is this the Narcissistic collapse in progress? How is she getting any publication to release her ravings still? Are they not absolutely toxic Kryptonite, blowing up everything they touch? Based on the latest figures, Scabby's book is going to be worth less than toilet paper very soon. That fawning article was so over the top, I had to wonder . . . Is it Onion-style satire? Is she being epically trolled? Because if it's intended to be read straight, she is very, very, very, very disturbed. And possibly quite near a complete physical breakdown too, based on how she's been abusing her body.


Perhaps the RF realised too late the pregnancy was dodgy and couldn't do very much then - too late to confront the claw and ask her to say she's had a miscarriage if the bump by then looked about 6 months. Maybe this is why they were banished to Canada/the US (the only reason Harold could say he was forced to leave the UK).


The Harkles returned from the South Africa tour in late fall 2019 and it was announced almost immediately afterwards that they would be taking an "extended" break in North America ostensibly to visit the American side of the family for Thanksgiving and the Christmas season. Their behavior on the SA tour was so egregious that the Queen made them take garden leave, is my opinion. The debut of a baby never before seen in England, allegedly to meet Bishop Tutu was at the heart of this, I believe, along with the joint Tom Bradby "Nobody's asked us if we're OK" whinefest interviews.

I really really think that everything hinges on The Children. Remember the impeccably-connected Neil Sean said: According to a very highly placed Royal source, the senior Royals have not seen any pictures of these children which have not been in the public domain. We must say 'allegedly' (for legal reasons--ed.) but this source is impeccable."

If no photographs of the children have been seen within the Firm then can we also extrapoloate that no living children have ever been seen, either? I do. Because surely photos would not carry such weight if the children had been welcomed in person, and often.

Archie is the key, IMO. "Lilibet" is Narc revenge on the Queen. Doubling down on her con to cause the Queen grief and ensure that HazNowt could never return. She is what Lady C called her . . all over.
Fifi LaRue said…
If Hawwy is claiming that he was forced to leave the UK, that gives Creedence to the rumor that after South Africa with the "Archie" no one in the BRF had ever laid eyes on, the Harkle's jig was up. It must have sent BP reeling with shock. So, apparently, the Harkles were told to get out of town, ASAP. Go to Canada or Africa, but you two are no longer welcome in the UK. That's why Anus Mouth had the gigantic sweaty pits.
Hikari said…
@Fifi

Exactly what I think, too.

We have the evidence of our own eyes and general knowledge of physics and of human gestation to know that she never carried no babies. Did she source a baby from somewhere/someone? Who can tell? But if Neil Sean's intel is as impeccable as he says--what does that say about all the activities involving 'Archie' subsequent to his debut according to the Harkles . .? Who or what was presented to the press on 8 May and later supposedly christened in July, then taken on a Royal Commonwealth tour at the age of 4 months, when he'd been 'too young' to fly to Scotland a few weeks prior?

After the Commonwealth service in 2019, she disappeared from view for almost 2 months of her elephantine gestation, supposedly nesting with Doria and taking healthful turns around the Frogmore garden. I thought then that the RF had managed to contain the situation and possibly gotten the Duchess into desperately needed mental health treatment . .or she was being read the riot act under house arrest. I thought that the RF would issue some statement as the weeks crawled by with no baby, even though AM was by her own words, 11 months pregnant by that time. Nothing. Then the media circus that was the 'birth announcement' . . the very weird signboard message outside BP; the Harkles' utterly fantastical story about a geriatric mother who'd gone weeks and weeks overdue dropping the kid effortlessly and going home 2 hours later . . then they get to call a press conference, claim the Archbiship baptized their baby all the way from York . . and incredibly, were rewarded with a Royal tour after all of this?! The tour was intricately planned and had been for months, but they should have been grounded and the Wessexes sent instead.

The Queen seemed sharp until her last days but one does wonder what her official brief was re. the spawn and how much of the subsequent actions came from her.

Perhaps 2024 is going to be the year of great revelations, finally. Endgame is an insult too far. It's time for the endgame of the Harkle con for once and all.
Fifi LaRue said…
Narcissist + drugs/alcohol. + eating less than 900 calories/day + public humiliation + failure after failure + isolation + unmitigated rage = psychosis/break with reality.
hypothetically - if it were TW who placed the super injunction and not the Royal family per se - then would the royal family not be under the same jurisdiction as that of the public and the press - that nothing can be even mentioned nor discussed which would be the existence of a super injunction covering the children. They would be in the same position as the press and the plebs, or am I stating the obvious.

I just feel that the public/media expect the royal family to broach the subject when perhaps they are unable to.

Hypothetically of course
@Fifi

Might she die of starvation?
@yorkshire pudding

The RF is subject to the law, just like the very lowliest of us. The Royals aren't exempt.
So yes, I'd guess the RF is bound to keep schtum, regardless of knowing about what the Hs are trying to hide, assuming it's the Hs who are being protected by the injunction that we shouldn't suppose exists.

Breaking news : BBC - H has lost his bid to get Mail on Sunday defence thrown out.

`In a written ruling on Friday, Mr Justice Nicklin refused to “strike out” ANL’s defence.

The judge concluded the publisher had a “real prospect” of successfully showing at a trial that previous Harry press statements provided a “misleading” description of his case against the Home Office.'

https://www.peterboroughmatters.co.uk/news/national/23976697.harry-loses-bid-throw-mail-sunday-publishers-defence-libel-claim/
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Might she die of starvation?

Good question. Where does she get her Ozempic or similar, if that's what she's taking? Surely, no reputable doctor would give her a prescription for it, she is neither obese or, as far as we know, diabetic. If she takes something and buys it on the internet, then anything could happen.
Fifi LaRue said…
@WBBM: Anorexics can hang on...Roachel? She has her hopes of winning an Oscar, among her other delusions, motivating her to stay alive. But then, she's delusional to believe she's not thin enough yet, so the Ozempic use will continue.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18dpaqr/the_updated_dutch_version_of_endgame_has_hundreds/

More coverage about what is in the Dutch edition. Remember how the publication of Endgame was delayed for months? It seems now that the delay was caused by lawyers combing throught the manuscript. Scobie, after adamant denials now admits that the Dutch publisher published the translation of the original draft before the changes were made by lawyers.
Who was drawing attention to whom?

.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw52gv6g29go (first published 23rd Nov)

OR:
This sour response

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1843383/bbc-breakfast-prince-william-appearance-slammed
Humor Me said…
The long awaited Kraken may be the "trial" that TOS may now call for since the judge ruled against him.
A trial would expose everything about megxit - Everything! His 180 degree turn from we chose to leave to we were forced to leave and the statement - "they owe my wife an pology - they know what they did."
snarkyatherbest said…
A few thoughts (slow work day!)

Protection: I always thought it was we will pay for it, we bill you and they pad the bills for $$ (ala borrowed designer dresses charged to charles). But now I am thinking perhaps all the favors they have been granted (living in two different russian oligarch homes) has come to roost. If you have IPP status, can you be a "courier" for $, cash gold bars, drugs? or does he need the protection from these people that demanded things they cant/he cant do or get for them.

super injunction: it's an interesting thought. If she got one i cant imagine how that worked. But the BRF would not breach it if they were not party to it because then there could be legal wrangling by her or others to break other super injunctions held by the family. Breach one and it could be a house of cards. I just dont think the family works that way.

But, I am on team Hikari and Fifi it all comes back to the kids. I think at least she was pushed out and he chose to go with. But since he was complicit then maybe he was too. It is still so curious, the announcement at BP, the use of the horse stables at Windsor Castle to announce the birth and even the joint appearance at the castle. Why did the BRF allow those to go on? in some ways they have now been made complicit and better have their side of the story ready. Mrs has had 4 years to come up with her "truth" about it and it will be about an infertile independent woman forced to produce an heir and this is what she did. Only way they outwit her is to show definitive proof neither kid has Harry dna in it Then you turn the fraud and treasonous acts on her
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18d9qvb/could_this_be_catherines_mic_drop_moment_2013/

-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbUEpOsO6s

Excellent video from Celt via SMM re the outrageous ignorant discussion about George's colouring back when G was pregnant. The so -called experts are talking out of their Meghan's mouths throughout when pontificating on genetic dominance & recessiveness - skin-, hair-& eye-colour are each controlled by more than one pair of genes.

Also fail to understand why the historical connection between class and skin tone was environment, more to do with lower-class women being exposed to sunlight from working outdoor.

Also, they ignore the fact that in the past, with a much smaller population, everyone was more closely related than now, as most people could only marry and breed with those living within walking distance of them. The invention of the bicycle made a huge difference to this.

Yet we `native' British are more still more closely related to each other than one would ever suppose - many of us have no idea who their second cousins are, let alone fifth or sixth ones. Few of us keep track of our more distant relatives - we leave that to the aristocracy. It I got on a bus in Wolverhampton for eg I'd probably be related to an extraordinary number of the other white passengers, even if I hadn't a clue who they were.
Maneki Neko said…
Prince Harry loses latest stage of legal battle against Mail on Sunday as judge refuses Duke's request for case to be decided without a public trial
. . .
He asked the High Court to rule that the newspaper could not use a legal defence of 'honest opinion', and for a judge to rule in his favour without the need for a trial.

But the judge ruled that Associated Newspapers - publisher of The Mail on Sunday (TMOS) and the Daily Mail - had a 'real prospect' of demonstrating that statements issued on Harry's behalf were misleading, and refused his requests.
(DM)

Poor Harold. This isn't going well. * will be furious. Meanwhile, William, Catherine and the children were at the Together at Christmas carol service, Catherine looking fabulous as usual. What a pleasure to see her well dressed, with clothes that fit, well groomed and looking happy. What a contrast with *.
The situation with Harry and his court cases seems to be exactly the same as with king Edward VIII afterwards the Duke of Windsor. They both wanted out of the royal bubble. But when that succeeded they totally lost it when it became clear that their situation changed and they also lost that something very, very special that is being a member of the British Royal Family.

It is quite clear that when Harry mounted to his "freedom flight" he believed that his life would continue as before with all the perks he had. Never mind his father's situation, of course would daddy pay everything for Harry and his family's life to continue us pleasantly as before. Of course would the British taxpaying people pay for full security (for Harry, his wife, sin son and his daughter, also separately if need be when Harry and this-one's-wife travelled all over the world).

He truly seems to believe that he is as himself the most important person in the world. Not that he was what he was because he was a member of his family. So he fights in the courts to get back that haloed position he has lost and he does not understand it.

His cognitive capabilities are as lacking as his great-great uncle David's who spent his last 36 years as a utterly unhappy man with a vague and empty eyes wondering what happened after he got what he wanted.

Harry's reaction to all this has been violent, childish and destructive. David had the dignity to stay quiet in his misery.
The situation with Harry and his court cases seems to be exactly the same as with king Edward VIII afterwards the Duke of Windsor. They both wanted out of the royal bubble. But when that succeeded they totally lost it when it became clear that their situation changed and they also lost that something very, very special that is being a member of the British Royal Family.

It is quite clear that when Harry mounted to his "freedom flight" he believed that his life would continue as before with all the perks he had. Never mind his father's situation, of course would daddy pay everything for Harry and his family's life to continue us pleasantly as before. Of course would the British taxpaying people pay for full security (for Harry, his wife, sin son and his daughter, also separately if need be when Harry and this-one's-wife travelled all over the world).

He truly seems to believe that he is as himself the most important person in the world. Not that he was what he was because he was a member of his family. So he fights in the courts to get back that haloed position he has lost and he does not understand it.

His cognitive capabilities are as lacking as his great-great uncle David's who spent his last 36 years as a utterly unhappy man with a vague and empty eyes wondering what happened after he got what he wanted.

Harry's reaction to all this has been violent, childish and destructive. David had the dignity to stay quiet in his misery.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18dtbl7/dutch_publisher_xander_uitgevers_disputes_scobies/

From the Dutch publisher of Endgame:

‘The explanation of Omid Scobie in his column about the Dutch editorial process of Eindstrijd is factually incorrect and we do not recognize ourselves in his story.' The reporter also states that the publisher is not allowed to say anything about the contents.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12828131/kate-middleton-peoples-princess-prince-william-meghan-markle-sussex.html

Although the duo are less popular than Catherine and William, their positive scores are still lower than their negative scores in the States. Here is my summary:

First, the positivity scores:
Catherine 44%
William 36%
Hapless 28%
The Witch 21%

26% think Harry and Meghan are 'too involved in American politics' but 34% said the couple are involved 'about the right amount'

42% of Americans believe Harry and Meghan should stay in the United States while 31% believe they should return to the UK

29% of respondents said the couple's statements are 'generally not credible', compared with 49% who said they were

Asked what motivates Harry and Meghan, 47% said 'doing the right thing and helping people', while 37% said it was 'making money and getting media attention'.

27% of people think Meghan 'makes the main decision' in the Sussexes' relationship, compared with 18% who said Harry

When asked to choose between two royals, the majority preferred Kate over Meghan (46% to 32%)

However, given the choice between Harry and William, 40% chose the Duke of Sussex, compared with 34% who picked William
------

Overall, their positive scores are higher than their negative scores. However, the narc is going to go ballistic about Catherine, and her husband, being more popular than her. She will lash out and try to devalue both, sooner or later.

Fifi LaRue said…
@WBBM: As we say around here, "She's too da*n mean to die."

@Snarky: Ooooh! What a thought, the Harkles want IPP so they can be couriers of illicit goods. It makes no sense that Hawwy wants IPP while in the UK where one it's a relatively safe place to live; while in the US one assumes that everyone in a car has a gun; and, there's gun violence everywhere. Didn't the Harkles take seven cars to some event recently, five with bodyguards and one full of photographers she hired? Something's fishy...
abbyh said…

Neil brings out a good point I had not thought of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwMemosgzl8
Sandie said…
Queen Elizabeth wanted Prince Harry to have "effective security" even after he and his wife Meghan Markle left the Royal Family in 2020, a letter has revealed.

Newly published court documents which include the letter, show that after the 2020 break-up summit at Sandringham following the Sussexes' departure from the Firm, the late monarch's Private Secretary wrote to the Government saying it "is of paramount importance" to her that Harry and Meghan get protection.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1843677/prince-harry-queen-elizabeth-security-court

Interesting as the letter reveals that the late Queen tried to persuade the government that it was 'imperative that the family continues to be provided with effective security'. However, remember that they do get provide security when they visit the UK, depending on the assessed security risk at the time and as long as they give two weeks' notice that they will be visiting. The problem is that they want the same level of security as the King and Queen and Prince and Princess of Wales, if not more; as Neil Sean said in his video, they wanted that security extended to Doria; and they want that security to apply 24-7 no matter where they are. I hope the government stands firm and denies them.
Sandie said…
Craig-Hamilton Parker is spot on with his hunches/psychic predictions more often that not. Here is what he is predicting for the duo next year:

Craig said: "I saw even Harry getting attacked in public, covered in water or something not like physically hurt, I don't think.

"I've seen him drenched or covered in water as if to say, you know, public distaste towards him."

He also mentioned seeing an "actual public argument between Harry and Meghan in a public place. I keep seeing Harry's angry face on the front pages of newspapers, red, furious. And something that happened at a public event."

Craig also foresaw trouble for Meghan, hinting that a potential new book might face some hurdles.

"I'm seeing Meghan's got a new book out," he added. "Or planning a new book. I get the feeling it's either going to be stopped or delayed something big is going to go wrong with that."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1843663/prince-harry-meghan-markle-public-argument-2024-nostradamus
Scoopy's admission only confirms the view that naming the King and Princess of Wales was `accidentally on purpose'.
Sandie said…
“Of course, Her Majesty and her family recognise that these are independent processes and decisions about the provision of publicly funded security are for the UK Government, the government of Canada and any other host government.”

Another excerpt from the late Queen's plea to the government on behalf of her evil grandson and his witch wife.

Note that Canada pulled his security as soon as he ceased to be a working royal. That was a decision made by the Canadian government.
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4340466-a-montecito-yankee-in-king-charles-court/

This is a first=rate overview, courtesy of SMM at

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18e1fbq/a_yankee_in_king_charles_court_the_hill/

The comments endorse what is said about the geopolitical implications of the Harkles' antics.
Parody Whitney excels herself here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18e0f0i/holiday_harkles_roast_scobie_the_elf_two/

I'm off to investigate AIPI videos now... now
@Fifi LaRue

Yes, I like it! British doctors aren't supposed to use our equivalent, in abbreviated form any more in patients' notes - TBMTD - Too-Bloody-Minded-To-Die
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18dnc0e/harrys_case_against_anl_re_saying_he_would_offer/

In case anyone has not seen it ... the post above, and in the comments, has some of the judge's ruling on refusing the claimant (the idiot) a summary judgment in his case against DM. It is interesting to see the timeline for the whole saga, and the conclusions that can be drawn.

November 2019: they flounce off to Canada after the disastrous tour of Southern Africa. They continue to be fully funded by taxpayers and Charles, and between Canada and the UK, they have full-time security.
8 January 2020: they publish their manifesto on IG.
13 January 2020: Sandringham Summit.
18 January 2020: Megxit is announced.
3 February 2020: idiot claims to have offered to pay for security in a meeting with Sir Mark Sedwill (member of the House of Lords).
10 February 2020: idiot emails Sedwill expressing concern about the removal of security but says nothing about paying for security.
16 April 2020: idiot claims to have referred to offer to pay for security in email to Sir Edward Young.
28 February 2020: RAVEC makes the decision that idiot and his family will no longer have state-funded security as it was no longer appropriate and other than for particular and specific circumstances such security would cease 31 March 2020.
April 2021: idiot attends his grandfather's funeral.
June 2021: idiot attends unveiling of memorial for Diana and claims that security was inadequate (one photographer followed his vehicle out the car park as he left an event where he was a patron, a position that requires the person to attract publicity and funding, and to which he barred the British press and photographers).
20 September 2021: idiot starts proceedings for a judicial review to have state security reinstated.

The DM claims that idiot wanted to portray the battle with RAVEC as a battle to be allowed to pay for his own security (so he was 'spinning' the truth) when in fact it was a battle to have his full state security reinstated.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie,

the Canadian government decided to rescind the publicly funded security after the Canadian Taxpayers' Federation stated how much it was costing the Canadians. Trudeau, being a friend of the traitors would have kept paying forever if no one had raised a fuss about the cost.

For the record, it cost over $200k for the few months they were, or should I say * was there, because most of the time, she was alone with her doll and poor dogs.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18efy6n/can_someone_explain_what_is_happening_here/

A photo of her, with Markus, that I have never seen before. I admit ... I can't stop laughing. It looks as if she has taken the black faux satin sheet off the hotel bed and wrapped it round herself. If she was a really nice and likeable person she could get away with dressing so badly, but what is worse is that for years we were relentlessly told that she is the best dressed woman ever.
Fifi LaRue said…
I predict that WME is going to cut ties with madame very very soon. She put out a statement about her new team, which suggests there was a staff change at WME being that madame is so very difficult. WME put out a statement via madame that there would be no more RF insults. Then the book came out. I suspect that the higher-ups are assessing the damage madame is doing to their firm. They've run out of celebrities whose arms they can twist so that madame can be invited to events, or on planes. If madame was radioactive before the book, she's now in full nuclear meltdown. Maybe there won't be a public statement, just a quietly letting go. Sunshine Sachs let madame go, even after she paid her delinquent statement. They didn't need the negative publicity. WME will be Skank Turnip free starting January 1, 2024.
OCGal said…
@Fifi LaRue, I hope you are right that WME dumps La Markle, and SOON!
Fifi LaRue said…
@Sandie: That's an old photo because she's got Ozempic face now, and in that photo she doesn't. Also MA now has long hair.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18efy6n/can_someone_explain_what_is_happening_here/

They are standing in a very bright, directional, light yet cast no shadows. Is that evidence that they are vampires?

Sandie said…
@FifiLaRue
Yes, that is an old photo - pre hapless times. She has never had style in terms of how she dresses.
-----

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18exchg/what_the_heck_is_up_with_her_hair_and_hair_part/

A couple of articles with rare photos of her seen from above. The photo is from her first appearance with hapless at IG (and she has been making IG all about her since then). I agree with many of the comments that she has been using harsh chemicals to straighten her hair since she was in her teens and the damage done means she has to wear hairpieces/weaves/wigs. It is so bizarre - it is as if she focuses on the front parting (dead straight) and the two hanging pieces in the front and completely ignores what is going on with the rest of her hair. Lately she does seem to have overcome that shortcoming, but in this old photo it looks as if she dragged herself out of bed and fixed the two front tendrils and thought she was 'good to go'.
Post on SMM asking why don't the Harkles publish pictures of their kids? and suggests seven possible reasons. Replies vary as to their complexity but one recommends applying Occam's Razor (which says use the explanation with the fewest elements).

So I did:

The kids don't exist.
- shttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18f28yk/people_who_are_proud_of_their_children_love_to/
Opus said…
History is a movable feast and when one is married to number 5 ones past is instantly improved. The Duchess is thus and always has been A list.

We are all here related to everyone else; some simple arithmetic shows that over the course of a few centuries that has to be the case. I find that very reassuring.

The Children and Young Persons Act of as long ago as 1933 limits what the press may publish from court cases as to those under (I think) seventeen. An injunction is an equitable remedy.

For those familiar with Die Frau ohne Schatten (Hofmansthal, Strauss R.)no shadow implies childlessness.
From CDAN:

December 10
Even with all the PR tricks and scandals he created for himself, the author couldn't even get his book in the top ten for its first week. At this rate, he won't even earn enough to pay back the advance for quite some time.

Fifi LaRue said…
@WBBM: IMO they don't exist, either.
However, in skimming The Cut article, a 3 year old comes in saying, "Momma, momma." And they go to the school to pick up same kid. Could it be a child actor hired and coached to say its lines? IMO Yes. They are parents in Hollywood who will do anything to get their child in show business, re: the Sasha Boran Cohen movie in which he pranks unknowing parents into agreeing to let their children do despicable and dangerous stunts in order to be in a film.
Girl with a Hat said…
The Taliban confirm that they will not seek out to attack Harry.

A Taliban spokeswoman said "We can not conceive a worse punishment than a lifetime with Meghan"

https://twitter.com/Tulip46706043/status/1733973961866694670

(It's a joke)
OCGal said…
@Girl with a Hat, I never in my life envisioned laughing at anything having to do with Harry & Meghan, much less the Taliban…but I just laughed heartily. Thanks for the mirth.
Magatha Mistie said…

@GWAH
Love it, megwa 😉

Curtain close at WME
Megz will be wailing
why did they FME…

@Fifi LaRue

I agree, certainly in the sense of being their genetic offspring, legally in the Line of Succession as being their father's children, born of the body of his wife. There may be go-to hired children, with the wished-for red & blonde hair, regardless of skin tone. (btw, I'd also expect any genuine offspring of their union to have hair with at least some degree of curl).

We've seen how the Harkles' associates spun glowing, but less than truthful, yarns about visiting new-born Archie but I suppose that uncomplimentary reports of him having emotional & behavioural problems at school may well have the ring of truth. Perhaps that is evidence of his being H's son?
PS Opus's comment about the Strauss opera seems very apt in this context!
Maneki Neko said…
It was all very,very predictable. It must be the beginning of the end but rather than the duo fading into obscurity (relatively), the releasing of the kraken would have been much more satisfying.

"But Mark Borkowski, one of Britain's most experienced crisis managers, has said that he believes that Omid Scobie's Endgame - and the royal race row it sparked - has 'backfired spectacularly' for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. He is also convinced that the farrago over the Dutch translation naming King Charles and Kate 'was clearly a publicity stunt', a claim Mr Scobie denies.

Mr Borkowski has said that Meghan's Hollywood relaunch is 'clearly not working'. He claims that her new talent agency WME may be considering dropping her after less than six months amid signs the 'Hollywood machine' has 'probably had enough of them'.

He told MailOnline: 'Something is beginning to unwind at the heart of Meghan and Harry. I think 2024 is going to be seismic, either because they're going to do something to recover and find a new positive tactic or it's going to be the undoing of the brand. It can only go one or two ways. It can't stay where it is at the moment. Because it's clearly not working'.

He said the couple's brand could be 'finished' in the next year because they are viewed so negatively, in part because of the dignified silence from the Royal Family in the face of 'constant' attacks by the Sussexes and their allies." etc.

https://tinyurl.com/3a7uxda9
Magatha Mistie said…

Quickie 🎤
Apologies: Billy Joel
Say Goodbye to Hollywood

Toodle-Pip Twats 🇬🇧

Say Goodbye to Hollywood
Sayonara Walt Disney
Auf wiedersehen
hazzas hood
Au revoir
the balcony…






At last...the real racist is being called out. Still, mustn't get to excited - she's probably got a sting in her tail.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/18fidum/the_tide_is_turning_tw_is_being_accused_of_being/
Lili-bet or Lilli-bulero?

Hush-a-bye Harry, on your tree-top,
When the wind blows, your status will rock.
When the truth breaks,
Your babies will fall,
And down will come Meghan, Harry and all.
@OCGal

Yep, they know that we wouldn't be too upset by it.
@Maneki Neko

It'll all come out in time, I reckon. It'll provide material for TV documentaries for decades to come - after all, they still chew over Wallis and Edward every so often and the Kaiser's warped thinking (thanks to childhood trauma) is examined from time to time. As far as I know, it hasn't yet been added to the `official' list of causes of the Great War, as per UK exam syllabuses - perhaps it just comes under `Prussian Militarism'.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3556116/ Queen Victoria and the Crippled Kaiser

Hikari said…
The go-to trick in the Narcissist's playbook is to accuse their targets of precisely the awful thing(s) they themselves do or have done and adopt the persona of the victim of injury of this behavior/remarks, etc . . or else they can self-righteously point out their target's 'crimes'. The injury to the target is two-fold: they are smeared by some bad thing which they have not done and meanwhile, the instigator is smirking with Duper's Delight as they watch their target twist in the wind trying to deny the charges. Of course the Narc is intimately familiar with the accusation, since they do it themselves all the time, and can add seemingly veracious details (like names), dates, locations, etc.

This is precisely what is happening here with the racism flap. Who is on record as having denied her own half-African American descent, pretending to be some form of Mediterrenean Caucausian and telling her school friends that that her mother was actually her maid?

Who called an Asian member of his own squadron an abhorrent slur? Do we think that only happened once? (No.) Who was eager to assure journalists that his blonde, blue-eyed Zimbabwean-born girlfriend was 'not black or anything', heavens forfend?

The demonstrable actions of both Charles and Diana as their sons were growing up were the opposite of racist. They were inclusive. I hardly think the family sat round in Highgrove or Kensington Palace casually referring to persons of color as 'towelheads' or the other. If H absorbed this vile outlook in boarding school, the fault is on his racist peers and his own weak mind, not his family.

The other day, I came upon a vlogger on YouTube who is a very attractive Black woman in an interracial marriage to a Caucausian man. She was holding her infant as she related some of the commentary she is the recipient of as the mother of a child whose features do not match hers. In this case, REALLY don't match. Mom's complexion is very deep, and her baby was extremely fair . .milky white skin with wispy blond hair. The little girl was a chunky happy bundle of joy . . and she looked just like H's wife wants us to believe Archie does. Genetics is indeed a mysterious thing. This mom and her baby bolster H's wife's claim to have birthed two extremely pale red-haired children. But I think we have too much visual evidence of the Pregnancies that Weren't to believe her. I'd bet anything that H's wife is well aware of this vlogging family.

If those two little leprechauns are indeed Harry and her biological chilren, she should have no qualms about getting them DNA tested, and perhaps explain why she felt the need for all the moonbump antics. We won't hold our breaths for that.
OCGal said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

Your “Hush-a-bye Harry” poetry is so good, so fun, and I hope is prescient.

Cheers!
Ooh! I like it!

H has been ordered to pay almost £50 000 in damages to M o S! plus £48 000 in costs -and that's only so far. Mr WildBoar thinks he's been let off lightly but as H expected them to pay him, it must sting

Tt's starting to look a lot like Christmas - what a gift it'd be to the nation were they to be put in their place.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/news/prince-harry-daily-mail-sunday-libel-payout-b2462118.html

The Independent has some way to go before it turns its coat but this is a start.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

I echo @OCGal's post. Hush-a-bye Harry! May Endgame and its ramifications signify the end of the house of Monte$hit$how.
Thanks, @OCGal -parody is about my poetic limit, sadly! Anyone is free to make any improvement they can think of,
.
This is truly funny: Neil Sean's daily news. This-one's-wife wanted to turn Trooping the Colour a paid event. Her idea how to modernize the monarchy. You can't make it up!!
Maneki Neko said…
DM headline, "Prince Louis makes a beeline for King Kong toy and Princess Charlotte gushes 'oh la la' as they handpick presents for children on baby bank visit - as fans get rare chance to hear their voices". Let's see if TBW will go one better and will take her children to a soup kitchen or similar.

https://tinyurl.com/2mjwtvta
Maneki Neko said…
Poor Hawwy. The judge has ordered him to pay legal costs of £50,000.

A High Court judge ordered the Duke of Sussex to pay legal costs incurred by The Mail on Sunday (TMOS), after Harry failed in a bid to have the case decided without a trial.

Mr Justice Nicklin said the legal costs would need to be assessed if the two sides could not agree a sum, but said Harry should pay £48,447 'on account' before the end of this year.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12851423/Prince-Harry-ordered-pay-publisher-Mail-lost-latest-stage-legal-battle.html

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