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Christmas is Coming

 The recent post which does mention that the information is speculative and the response got me thinking.

It was the one about having them be present at Christmas but must produce the kids.

Interesting thought, isn't it?

Would they show?  What would we see?  Would there now be photos from the rota?  

We often hear of just some rando meeting of rando strangers.  It's odd, isn't it that random strangers just happen to recognize her/them and they have a whole conversation.  Most recently it was from some stranger who raved in some video (link not supplied in the article) that they met and talked and listened to HW talk about her daughter.  There was the requisite comment about HW of how she is/was so kind).  If people are kind, does the world need strangers to tell us (are we that kind of stupid?) or can we come to that conclusion by seeing their kindness in action?  Service.

They seem to always be talking about their kids, parenthood and yet, they never seem to have the kids with them at that moment or the meeting doesn't happen at the dentist or pediatrician's office.  Maybe kids like to do the drive through of the fast food or join their parents for lunch at a not fast food place.

Wait a minute - where are the body guards when this was going down? Aren't they necessary to protect the couple (and the kids)?  Strangers might do harm and how they require security to be safe.


Let's switch gears and think about the kids.

When do we see them?  

They didn't travel along the recent blink your eyes and you'll miss island trip.  Not much in the way of whole family vacations even to visit family friendly spots in the US like Smithsonian or Exploratorium.  The Tar Pits are fairly local and would have dinosaurs (usually a hit with kids).  Or the Grand Canyon or Boston (lots of history) or just fun on Hawaiian beaches.  The Natural Museum of History is a kid's dream in NYC.  All these places and yet no kid trips to show the kids the country they live in - even when the parents have a trip to that city.  Those are photos are with OPK (other people's kids).  Their kids don't see their parents doing the good or making the speech.  

When they are seen, they seem to have this in common: 

It is a very brief time period - a couple of shots but does not appear to cover a prolonged period of time.  (meaning the people on the periphery don't seem to move or change a lot).  

It is shot from a distance.  Not closeups.  Even though we all know that telephoto lenses exist (even for phones).  And, often taken showing the back of the adult and minimal view of kid.

Often it is a public holiday "gathering" of some sort but not a lot of listed adult friends (who don't have a working professional relationship with them) or even just friends of the kids along for the fun.  Do these kids even have friends?  If they do, there are things like birthday parties and play dates.  And in school, there are often class photos for year books (even in pre-school).   Later on there will be plays and science fairs.   

No outside confirmation.  Yes there are people who say they met the kids at interviews and the like but no photos.  Ever.  Even when it was all these high profile famous people who popped in to see the new baby Archie.  Or, no photos even in the background from other strangers at the same event.  So although they could have been at some event but how long did they stay after the photos were taken?  

Even when they supply the photos of the kids, there is a feeling that the photos always seem to raise more questions than answers.  

Christmas is weeks and weeks away.  A lot can happen before the walk to the Church happens.  










Comments

Sandie said…
Just to follow on to comments made about funding of the duo while royals:

The financial year for the Sovereign Grant is 1 April to 31 March. The Sovereign Grant is funded from the income, after operating expenditure*, from Crown Estates (all of the income is given to the government, and the government then allocates a percentage, about 25%, to the sovereign to spend on funding the official work of the monarchy). The duo announced their engagement in November and got married in May. So, for 4 months, the monarchy was saddled with funding TBW from a budget that had not allocated any funds for her. However, her demands, via hapless, for bodyguards and transport (she was already living free from paying rent on a Crown Estate long before the engagement) preceded the engagement, and once she got the ring on her finger, she expected to have free rein to spend and spend (even once they could accommodate her with funds from the Sovereign Grant, the SG did not expand so every penny she spent took money 'away' from other working royals). This is where the ridiculous story about 'no money for her' comes from.

Charles did have income from the Duchy of Cornwall. I am not sure what the dates for the financial year are, but it would probably be a similar story other than that this income was considerable and Charles could allocate the funds as he wished among himself, his wife, and his sons. I suspect that it is these funds that the duo thought they should have unbridled access to, and when Charles tried to put the brakes on, offence was taken. They must now be filled with bitter resentment that all that income goes to William. Charles knew this would happen one day and the duo would become an Edward and Sophie (but with a much less grand home). The duo probably thought short term and wanted to loot as much as they could while they could.

They ran off to Canada in about November, did some brief appearances in January and then effectively were gone. But the SG funded them until 31 March. They effectively were given a generous 4-month paid holiday. As for Charles funding them from the Duchy of Cornwall, they were not entitled to any funding after Megxit was officially announced, but they got full funding from Charles up until then, when they were on 'paid leave' living for free in Canada with bodyguards paid for by the British public ... It also seems that Charles dipped into his personal wealth and gave them a large sum at the time of Megxit as well, sort of as a farewell gift:

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"In the financial year 2018-2019 (the first year of their marriage), Charles's Duchy of Cornwall estate provided more than £5m to cover the public duties - and some private expenses - of the Sussexes, and of Prince William and Catherine, Princess of Wales, then the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

The taxpayer-funded Sovereign Grant made up the other 5%.Charles subsequently gave them "a substantial sum" to support their transition to financial independence.

Duchy of Cornwall accounts show that the couple - along with Prince William and Catherine - received £4.5m between April and June 2020.

"That funding [then] ceased," according to a spokesman.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17v2dbz/the_year_of_reconciliation_begins_at_lastharry_to/

So, King Charles' birthday will be dominated by the story of a phone call from his second son, which may or may not happen?

The time difference is a bit tricky. 8 hours. As hapless starts his day, Charles is sitting down to have tea with his family. Charles has a brief space in his schedule before dinner to speak to his second son (let's say between 6 and 8), which is 10 am to midday for hapless, but Charles may just fill his days with receptions ...

I believe that Charles will be very accommodating in taking a call from his son, but it is highly likely the interaction will be brief and courteous and pretty meaningless for Charles, who will spend the day surrounded by his family, loved ones, devoted staff, and the public.
Hikari said…
It's mid-November already, which means that the Christmas services are less than six weeks away now. One month and ten days. So that means the Scary and Sparry have about a week and a half tops to RSVP to the King's invitation, if in fact there's been one.

Now let's pause for a brief interlude in which we collectively imagine the dishy Lt. Col. Johnny in his Scots regalia informing Spazz via telephone that either the whole family shows or they will be observing Christmas in California this year. Does this mean Lt. Col. Thompson is becoming CRIII's Tommy Lascelles? I am completely here for it.

The crunch is on. In my view here's the lay of of the land:
1. The Sussexes have no children but have been concocting elaborate subterfuges that they do in order to shake down the Crown for more cash these last 5 years.
2. The Royal family is well aware of this, though the public deniability must be maintained. Hence these figment kids are never spoken of.
3. The Sussexes know the Royals know there aren't any kids, but persist in thinking they are successfully snowing the plebs all over the world as to their legitimate parentage.
4. The Sussexes are quite wrong about this but since money continues to be made taking and sellling their images, nothing is officially denied.
5. If indeed the King has commanded the presence of his half-American grandchildren at family Christmas, he has thrown down the gauntlet. Scary and Sparry are constantly bleating on about how they want to reconcile and give olive branches but it's all blather, no doing. This invite is really the Last Chance Saloon for Haz and the yacht girl to prove that they have the King's grandchildren, safe, sound and thriving in sunny California. If they refuse to attend, citing some cockamamie reason why two kids who are no longer infants cannot fly across the Atlantic on a comfortable private jet to meet their grandfather, aunts, uncles and cousins--seeing as we KNOW how desperate they are to retain the patina of a Royal connection--well, I for one will take that as proof positive for once and all that the 'kids' are just another part of their grift. Hired prop kids who they daren't show up with and are prevented by law from taking overseas without their true legal guardians.
6. I am getting my popcorn and hot cocoa ready.
OKay said…
That whole "only welcome with the children" thing really caught my attention too. Seems obvious that the RF know it's not possible for them to comply.
Maneki Neko said…
I don't know if this is meant to detract from Charles' birthday. Warning: chicken legs on display again, complete with poppy brooch on her jumper.

Meghan Markle shows off her legs in chic shorts as she pays tribute to the British military by sporting a poppy brooch while meeting a friend for lunch and shopping in Montecito

The witch of Montecito is seen grinning broadly and looking very happy (sans H). She's seen sporting a shopping bag from Wendy Foster. Obviously it has to be some luxury store but this is the blurb on their website:

"For over 40 years Wendy Foster has set the tone for style in Santa Barbara and Montecito - capturing the essence of the desirable Santa Barbara lifestyle: understated, elegant, relaxed and natural."
Just what *is after and thinks she portrays.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12748127/amp/Meghan-Markle-shorts-poppy-Montecito-shopping.html
Sandie said…
https://web.archive.org/web/20231114155218/https://pagesix.com/2023/11/14/style/meghan-markle-steps-out-in-tailored-shorts-symbolic-brooch-following-veterans-visit/

Lunch and shopping, as usual. She is still not wearing the engagement or eternity ring.
SwampWoman said…
KCIII has other things to do than waiting around for a phone call that may not come. I'm not a king, I don't have nearly the activities that he does, but do I sit around waiting for my kids, who are also busily working and raising their families, to remember my birthday and give me a call? No, I do not. I have other things to do. If they remember, that's nice; if they don't, I don't get butthurt. (Mostly I don't remember my birthday anyway.) Youngest grandson is asking how in the world I can be 27 when his daddy is 46, though. It's because of all my birthdays that I've forgotten!

If Harry can't be bothered to call his dad except for once a year *maybe* on his birthday, that's not a son, that's a distant acquaintance.

Last year, son called two weeks later and said "Mom, was it your birthday last week? I think I missed it. Work has been crazy!" I said no, my birthday wasn't last week. He said good, he didn't want to miss it. I told him it was two weeks ago lol. He's getting better; at least he's in the right month now! Son only calls when he has no other choice because I'm not reading my texts. I don't carry my cell phone with me 24/7 and don't look at it daily, or sometimes even weekly. (We see him several times per week and he only lives 4 miles away.)
Sandie said…
https://twitter.com/BarkJack_/status/1724449299784684024

Thread confirming that there has been no phone call from the second son. It is also pointed out that all calls go through aides (Charles does not have a cellphone), and staff are still operating under the assumption that all calls may be recorded and manipulated by the duo.

It is actually rather sad.
Sandie said…
Not only did she make sure she got papped to coincide with the King's birthday, but she made sure the pap she called used a filter. Just saying!
The news is that Harry is demanding a half of all the Duchy of Cornwall money. It is very easy to believe this. He may believe he has right to this wealth. With his intellect and education it is quite understandable that he is capable of overlooking 686 years of English history (since Edward of Woodstock's creation as the duke of Cornwall).

It is becoming more and more interesting to see when his family is ready to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and JUST SHUT UP, HARRY!
SwampWoman said…
I found it interesting that the pair are reportedly not welcome without the children as well. Is this their leak or a palace leak or something completely made up? I'm getting my comfy robe, slippers, and a huge tub of popcorn ready for this sh*tshow.
Maneki Neko said…
I should have known. The numerous photos of * out with a friend, showing her spindly legs, are by Backgrid. So no paps lurking in the area on the off chance, she called them. Did she ring Charles to wish him a happy birthday? We know the answer to that.
Fifi LaRue said…
What's Her Face wasn't shopping and lunching with a friend. No, that was her contact at WME, or a temporary hire to do her bidding. Bet the Temp had to buy her own lunch. If it was an WME employee, she paid for the lunch, then put it on HW's account. I worked for attorneys at one time; the free parking for the clients was never, ever free. It was simply charged to the client's account.
VetusSacculi said…
I'm probably overthinking but I was surprised at today's BBC News article about KC3's 75th birthday headlining with the fact that Harold is likely to be phoning his Pa to wish him a happy birthday. Why such prominence given to a small detail, is it the Palace leaking code for Harold will be phoning his Pa to finally ask him to extricate him from the mess he's made of his life? If you juxtapose it with the alleged Christmas invitation tea, is this the beginning of the end?
abbyh said…
Am I in the minority or something?

I still give birthday, Christmas, appropriate parent day gifts to my parents and some of the same generation I am close to?

(I grew up giving gifts to grandparents until they passed. There is no doubt I and everyone in the family would hear about it if I failed to give a certain person a gift)

Hikari said…
@Maneki,

Nothing says paying tribute to the British military like parading one's chicken legs in 'chic shorts' whilst merching for a luxury boutique and compelling an employee to pretend to be a lunch friend.

As the Sussexes infamously observed once, "Service is universal." This is just how she embodies dedicated service to the military veterans of a foreign power headed up by her father-in-law. More cosplay. In the U.S. we observe two days for veterans: the one just past is to honor living veterans and those still actively serving in uniform. We use poppies on Memorial Day in May which is to honor the memories of fallen servicemen and those who have passed on. I've seen real and paper versions of poppies but it's not a common custom here to wear poppy jewelry/adornments. So one wonders where * obtained 'the pin she's wearing. Off to look at this ridiculous photograph. I'd say she's guilty of cultural appropriation because we know exactly why she's aping concern for British military personnel.
OKay said…
*sigh* We don't wear poppies after November 11. I'm sure neither she nor her husband is aware.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari

I'm not sure about the "chic shorts" but I assume you were being sarcastic😉. Nothing ever looks chic on *.

Her poppy brooch looks like mine, which I bought a few years ago in M&S (Marks & Spencer). It's solid and doesn't fall off, unlike the paper ones. I still give to the poppy appeal. Perhaps * bought hers when she was in the UK as a mere fiancée?? (sarc).

@Sandie

I too noticed the lack of engagement ring. It's taking a long time to get repaired, whatever the problem was.
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As for H believing he was on an equal footing to William, this beggars belief. I wonder if this comes from wifey, who sounds more like someone who has planted ideas into his head and had succeeded in convincing him. To paraphrase George Orwell, who H has probably never heard of let alone read, some are more equal than others. Didn't * think H had an equal right to the throne?
Fifi LaRue said…
Just saw the photos of HW with the model. HW is half the size of the model, and models are usually an XS. HW's sharp, bony elbows must come in handy when she needs to jab Sparry.
Hikari said…
https://pagesix.com/2023/11/14/style/meghan-markle-steps-out-in-tailored-shorts-symbolic-brooch-following-veterans-visit/

Update to previous comment: Nothing says paying tribute to British military personnel like parading one's chicken legs and fake friends/gurning grin in a So Cal 'casual, breezy, chic' ensemble that cost $2250 USD. Yep. One thousand dollars for a plain black sweater and 'canvas khaki' shorts. $795 for the shoes and the canvas striped beach bag was on clearance for only $450. For this fake lunch in Santa Barbara, Megaliar is wearing the equivilent or more than most military families earn in a month. That's not including her jewelry and sunglasses.

Yes, we have our priorities in order all right. Merching is universal!
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar OT

Are you following the latest Icelandic seismic activity?
SwampWoman said…
Blogger abbyh said...
Am I in the minority or something?

I still give birthday, Christmas, appropriate parent day gifts to my parents and some of the same generation I am close to?

(I grew up giving gifts to grandparents until they passed. There is no doubt I and everyone in the family would hear about it if I failed to give a certain person a gift)


Not at all. I gave gifts to my in-laws and my parents (RIP) and remembered their birthdays. I have gifts for my children and grandchildren for every occasion. But husband and I have pretty much everything that we want or need. We have requested NO GIFTS for years, they ignored us, and now we demand NO GIFTS or else YOU will be stuck cleaning out our house after we die! If they want to gift us something, it should be something that they really want (grin). I think this may have resonated with them.

If they want to get us a new $10,000 car lift we wouldn't complain, mind you, and firearms or ammo are always welcome.
SwampWoman said…
Maneki Neko said...
@Wild Boar OT

Are you following the latest Icelandic seismic activity?


Not WBBm, but I am! Crazy, isn't it? I saw that increased levels of sulfur dioxide gas are being detected. Not surprising with that giant crack. I wonder where the actual eruption will take place?
OCGal said…
I heard a comment that resonated with me, not in reference to Harry but another fellow. This applies perfectly to Harry and his situation IMO:

“He’s not remorseful yet. He’s regretful, which is selfish.”

I think Harry is regretful that he has alienated so many people and lost out on status and money and friendships, but he isn’t remorseful for his destructive ways. He is only regretful due to his many losses. I seriously doubt he’ll ever be remorseful.
Fifi LaRue said…
WME has earned their fee: they rustled up a "friend" for * TW to have lunch with.
Elskainga said…
@Hikari
‘Update to previous comment: Nothing says paying tribute to British military personnel like parading one's chicken legs and fake friends/gurning grin in a So Cal 'casual, breezy, chic' ensemble that cost $2250 USD. Yep. One thousand dollars for a plain black sweater and 'canvas khaki' shorts. $795 for the shoes and the canvas striped beach bag was on clearance for only $450. For this fake lunch in Santa Barbara, Megaliar is wearing the equivilent or more than most military families earn in a month. That's not including her jewelry and sunglasses. ‘


So * is wearing shorts and light ballet shoes in mid-November but was bundled up in a winter coat, scarf, pants in an August parking lot merching pap shot of the stress patches. Montecito is located in the northern hemisphere, ffs! She can’t keep her disorders in check and everyone now knows that she calls Backgrid. How pathetic she has become.

Sandie said…
@OCGal
That comment about regret and remorse is spot on, but I would go further. I do not think he regrets anything he or his wife did, but he is trying to find a way to escape the consequences. The following article is mind blowing:

https://archive.ph/2023.11.11-112721/https://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/are-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-moving-back-to-london/

“Harry and Meghan have been talking about moving back to London,” a source exclusively reveals to Life & Style, explaining that the duo “are going through one of the toughest times of their lives — and that’s saying a lot, considering what they’ve been through already. California just isn’t cutting it for them, and their financial situation has become dire.”

So much so that they recently resorted to begging King Charles III for their old jobs back. “Harry’s been trying to cut a secret deal to live and work with the royal family again,” shares the source, “and Charles has graciously agreed to it. He and Meghan are grateful.” ... Now their $14.7 million mansion, 24/7 private security, designer wardrobe and decadent vacations — in recent weeks, they’ve been to Portugal and the Caribbean — are adding up. “They obviously need to cut their expenses,” the insider tells Life & Style, noting that the cost of maintaining their lifestyle has left Harry and Meghan “about $28 million in debt, and they seemingly have no new income. It’s been a rude awakening.”

That’s why, despite all the bad blood and family tensions Harry exposed in his January memoir, Spare, “he and Meghan want to return to Britain,” claims the source, who says the prince, 39, and Meghan, 42, “have tried to make it work [in America], but it hasn’t happened — and their money problems have directly affected their marriage.”
In Meghan’s ideal world, however, she’d be reunited with her in-laws — whom she and Harry have accused of everything from racism to physical violence — only part-time. “She thinks they’ll still be living in LA eight months a year and can rent a massive Kensington Palace apartment the rest of the time,” the source tells Life & Style, pointing out that the couple previously resided on the palace grounds in a small cottage. “She believes it could help them repair their marriage.” It would certainly help repair their fractured relationship with Charles, 75.

“He loves Harry and his grandchildren, and having his family back together is what he’s wanted,” says the source. But his approval comes with conditions. Namely, “Meghan and Harry have to agree not to speak ill of the royals again,” says the source. “That’s a must. It would be an utter embarrassment if they were to be kicked out of the family for a second time.” Assuming the Sussexes have made peace with that, adds the source, “they could resume royal duties by as soon as December.” Not everyone is on board, though. Prince William and wife Princess Kate, both 41, “don’t think Harry and Meghan moving back is such a good idea,” says the source, noting that William and Kate relocated to a new house on the Windsor Castle estate about an hour outside of London last year, but have maintained their country home in Norfolk, as well as Apartment 1A at Kensington Palace. “So they’d still be neighbors with the Sussexes in London. And Meghan and Kate as neighbors again could be problematic.” ...
Sandie said…
My comments on the story I shared above:

It sounds credible.

William, supported by Catherine, must stop this.

Who will pay for the refurbishment and upkeep of a huge apartment in Kensington Palace? What about bodyguards, transport, their high living costs?

The plan will not solve their money problems. But they think it will: being 'back in the fold' will bring in the millions in new contracts and deals and they can resume siphoning off money from the monarchy.
Sandie said…
Oh for heaven's sake ... she can't even get wearing a poppy right! Thanks to those who pointed out the absurdity of the poppy she wore for the lunch and shopping pap walk.
Sandie said…
@SwampWoman
Ditto re. giving of gifts for me. Thankfully my family have 'migrated' towards some kind of compromise for Christmas. A limit is put on how much you can spend (there is always that 'one' who ignores the limit), names are put in a 'hat', you each take a name and act as 'secret Santa' for the person whose name you picked.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17vdi31/lady_c_tea_youtube_111423_a_few_nuggets/

Last C does not believe the story that I shared about them moving back to the UK for 4 months each year and renting a huge apartment in Kensington Palace.
Sandie said…
And here is the 'narrative', as put out by the duo:

The King and Prince Harry will speak again next week after a phone call for the Monarch’s 75th birthday marked a “turning point” in their relationship.

Father and son enjoyed a warm conversation on Tuesday, after the Duke of Sussex, 39, called his father to wish him a happy birthday.

After a lengthy spell during which the two have barely spoken, the chat marked a notable shift in tone.

The King also spoke on the phone with Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex.

Prince Archie, four, and Princess Lilibet, two, are understood to have recorded a video of themselves singing happy birthday to their grandfather, who they have only met on a handful of occasions, but which would have delighted him.

The fact that both sides have signalled a desire to bury the hatchet and start to mend their relationship was hailed a positive sign that was celebrated on both sides of the Atlantic.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/11/15/prince-harry-king-charles-birthday-phone-call-royals-news/

Girl with a Hat said…
I find that the media takes a disgusting delight in stirring the pot wrt the BRF.

The DM in particular, but even The Times, The Telegraph, etc.

Maneki Neko said…
@Elskainga

I did think the same about shorts in November but remember, although California is in the northern hemisphere, it's not Siberia. I checked the weather when I saw the pix last week, the temperature was around 22/23°C (73/74°F). Any excuse, though, to show her "mile long legs" (according to her). Not a good look, whatever she might think.
Hikari said…
Life and Style is in *’s stable of PR shills.

Anything glowingly favorable to the Sussex agenda published by any Hearst magazines, former employer of a certain Scabby is simply *’s mouthpiece. These magazines publish the Sussex fantasies of what they want to happen. Until these announcements come directly from Royal accounts, I simply cannot believe it.

If Spazz and wife want us to believe that they shared a warm birthday call with his Majesty and Archie & Lilibet sent video wishes to grandpa as a precursor to getting the half-in half out deal of being lavishly subsidized by the Crown in exchange for a handful of “fun” royal engagements ON THEIR TERMS— Sorry, but this is exactly the scheme the late Queen said no to. If Charles has been delivering messages to Harry via lieutenant colonel Thompson for the last year, what would account for the sudden about face?

Nothing other than Sussex projection. She’s manifesting again. She really and truly believes that if you pretend something is true long enough, it will magically come to pass. The both of them live in a world of magical thinking and have never accepted that they were not given their way. For the last four years they’ve been pitching a toddler tantrum trying to wear Daddy down. Let’s not forget they’ve also demanded half the Duchy of Cornwall because H is an equal brother. The fantasia whereby the treacherous duo is forgiven all and move next door to William and Catherine is just as plausible. William wouldn’t stand for it. If such a thing came to pass, I would support W. seeking a Regency because his father will have lost his marbles. CRIII has had a successful first year of his reign, but the goodwill would come crashing down fast if he caters to the traitors in any fashion. If there were such a thing as journalistic integrity any more, it would not be possible for * to keep purchasing made-up fictions to promote her devious agenda.
Writers used to be sacked and/or prosecuted for publishing untruths. Nowadays Diogenes would be hard-pressed to find an honest member of the media.

Well… Now that they’ve painted such a cozy scene of unity just in time for the holidays, let’s see the children enjoying an English Christmas. I dare them.
Sandie said…
I posted on the old thread instead of the new one ...

Scobie reports their version of what happened the day the Queen died (and outs Eugenie as cut from the same cloth as the delusional whiny brats)

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17vubcs/people_excerpt_of_scabies_book_with_harolds/

More from Scobie who claims that William sees hapless as a threat:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17vuuu2/lord_have_mercy_another_people_excerpt_this_one/

Whoever fed this narrative to Scobie does not want any kind of reconciliation with the royal family.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17vuibv/back_and_forth/

An analysis of the BS about the birthday phone call. They used Victoria Ward to do their propaganda.
Sandie said…
The King certainly didn’t take the call during the day while he was busy working,” the source said. “The evening was spent with his family and friends and he didn’t have a private moment all evening.”
Separate sources went further and said the King was aware Harry was ringing - but he refused to pick up the phone.
"There was no call, every time Harry calls his father, Charles waves the phone away,” they said. “He does not want to hear from him until he apologises."

https://archive.li/2023.11.15-101707/https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835191/prince-harry-king-charles-no-birthday-phone-call

The full real story is told in the above article. The delusional garbage was published via Victoria Ward.
abbyh said…
Oh the gushy articles contradicting the photos on the King's birthday.

Maybe I don't remember but I don't think that KC has ever met his last granddaughter. Timing were too tight when she was in the UK. And the times he may have met her brother could probably be counted on one hand.

So this "shift in tone" and "turning point" in the relationship between KC and his son is pitched as positive. How interesting.

If anything did happen, what if it really went the other direction - farther away and unquestioningly more firm in decisions already made?

Not just manifesting projection but cold thinking of how it would allow spin and control over the eventual we are still victims party when more truth about reality emerges.

Some things from that Life and Style piece

... In Meghan’s ideal world, however, she’d be reunited with her in-laws — whom she and Harry have accused of everything from racism to physical violence — only part-time. “She thinks they’ll still be living in LA eight months a year and can rent a massive Kensington Palace apartment the rest of the time,” the source tells Life & Style, pointing out that the couple previously resided on the palace grounds in a small cottage. “She believes it could help them repair their marriage.” It would certainly help repair their fractured relationship with Charles, 75....

When you have financial troubles, moving even part time to some other place without addressing how you got there won't change the future.



You will still have all this debt from before and now new expenses in the new place. And it is just wild having stuff in two places I can tell you. You think oh, I have this but it is at the other house so you go out and buy a duplicate or you ship it rush. (and all the duplicates always seem to wind up at only one place instead of both anyway).

The whole they know they need to cut expenses but really what lifestyle changes do they seem to be currently exhibiting? trips to islands, tickets to shows here and there, lunches, photographers and all the new clothes. The only slowdown seems to be linked to the fewer and fewer events they are headlining.

KC may love his son but at the King's age, given all the pressures of kingship, is he really likely to choose to get back into the bank business of bailing out his son? Granted, he did it financially before (so much that there was a long rant in the book blaming KC sort of for the mess). But the book was pretty clear that, as a father, he let his son face the music to choices the son made. And boy that appeared to make the son mad.

Based on the next, I really doubt the King has made any thoughts toward change.

As you notice how it's all about how she wants or thinks will happen - not her husband's opinion or wants. She's still the driver telling him how high to jump. And, did you catch the part about how it will not just heal the marriage but the relationship between the duo and the king but not apparently others (perhaps now realize a lost cause but remember that the other will be king and then what's the plan?). That's kind of like a threat. If this does not happen, then it's really all your fault we didn't make it and had to divorce.

I'd say it is a puff piece with a clear warning.
SwampWoman said…
Yes, I'm sure that KCIII is DESPERATE to bring This One and That One into the fold to do the duties that they wouldn't even bother to half-ass before. They showed up wrinkled, unkempt, and high or drunk. They wouldn't listen to their advisors about local customs. It was frankly insulting to the people that showed up to see them. If their tour is such a debacle that ANDREW has to be sent to soothe the enraged and injured, they are worthless.

Maybe This One could be rehabbed enough to do some low-key events in the distant future; maybe something to do with opening a new brewery. Certainly *nothing* to do with important world events. I can't ever see Meghan being welcomed or invited back.

If 'Archie' is indeed real, he'll be having this song sung to him on the playground with "Archie's mom" being substituted for "Kyle's mom". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpBt5FPAT1g
Maneki Neko said…
So not only did H allegedly phone Pa on his birthday but * herself "is also said to have spoken to her father-in-law to pass on her wishes from California" (DM). Yes, I bet! Is this from the same source as the Harkles' moving back to the UK for four months /year? The Queen said no to such a deal.

Meanwhile, Scobie has shared an extract of his new book. This is mainly around the time the Queen died and H not kept informed etc. but there's also an interesting claim that William believes H has been 'brainwashed' by an army of therapists'. That I can believe (and also by *).
Fifi LaRue said…
@Abby: We can't forget the expenses paid for *'s ever changing face, teeth, and hair.

The manifesting worked once, when she snagged Dufus.

The Dook and Dookass must be really, really, scarily broke if they're demanding half of the Duchy income.
Opus said…
Never accept a counter-offer is the advice in job hunting because all the old problems promptly reappear and I predict that were the duo to return whether to KP or elsewhere in Gt Britain it will all head-south, go pear-shaped within days. That anyway is what were I asked I would advise the King. I imagine that what matters most to His Majesty will be - in the time he has left - a successful monarchy and hand-over to the PoW (and the minor Waleses)and to that extent the duo would surely only become a time-consuming irritant and distraction forever causing or likely to cause destabilising trouble. Any earlier monarch would have sent them to the Tower or the Block, their estate seized.

Not that I believe the story is anything other than fiction for how would they pass off non-existent children?
Elskainga said…
@Sandie-

“ The King certainly didn’t take the call during the day while he was busy working,” the source said. “The evening was spent with his family and friends and he didn’t have a private moment all evening.”
Separate sources went further and said the King was aware Harry was ringing - but he refused to pick up the phone.
"There was no call, every time Harry calls his father, Charles waves the phone away,” they said. “He does not want to hear from him until he apologises."

Thank you for sharing this excerpt. I am so glad the Palace ( Buckingham, I guess) has so quickly corrected the Victoria Ward article about Harry, *, and the Invisible kids personally wishing KCIII a Happy Birthday and the warm conversation that was shared. 🤮 The two of them are PERNICIOUS and PATHOLOGICAL LIARS. They both are too psychologically damaged and are a direct threat to the Royal Family. KIng Charles must demand they both seek long term mental health treatment before they can come back for a visit, forget the apologies! Also, regular wellness checks on the kids although they may fair better because their parents are never home.
Sandie said…
But MailOnline can exclusively reveal that CEO Peter Lawless, a lawyer and arguably Canada's most respected Olympic and Paralympic administrator, has left his job abruptly.

An insider has claimed that Mr Lawless, who was awarded the Diamond Jubilee Medal by Harry's grandmother the Queen in 2012, was fired and morale amongst staff is now 'at an all time low'

Also leaving the Vancouver-Whistler team is Bill Cooper, who was in the role of Chief Commercial Officer for ten months until he left in October. He has thanked colleagues for their support after several praised his 'grace' and accused Invictus 2025 of making a big mistake by getting rid of him.

One Games volunteer said that staff are 'concerned that these recent moves will again overshadow this incredible event for our veterans'. They also raised concerns that the Sussexes' security and other costs may put a strain on Games finances if Invictus 2025 has to pick up the bill.

https://archive.ph/2023.11.15-111050/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html

The headline for the article is explosive enough ...
Maneki Neko said…
I've been quite busy all day and only read posts quickly but this struck me. In @Sandie's post at 11.42 am, there is an excerpt from Life & Style magazine: “She believes it could help them repair their marriage.” So she admits there are problems in the marriage? I don't believe the claims made in the article so it could all be BS, especially the bit where the 'source' states “they could resume royal duties by as soon as December.” Really?? This is just not credible. Official engagements are published up to eight weeks in advance and the dates set many months before. Added to that, what royal duties could they do? They're now surplus to requirements.
Elskainga said…
Sandie-

Wow, obviously there is turmoil and something ain’t right ongoing within the Invictus Games Foundation. I truly hope a reevaluation of their mission and how best to accomplish said mission is performed. This last IG was hijacked by * and ended up as her private pr/merching platform.

This also jogged my memory about long- term patron, Johnny Hornby, quitting Sentebale this past summer. Never heard any details regarding why he quit, but it’s safe to say, Harry’s charities need better management by a lucid, involved patron.

Sandie said…
"The birthday phone call, then, represents progress for Prince Harry and the King in their mutual desire to repair their fractured bond, but it will take more than one cordial transatlantic conversation to wipe away years of betrayal and distrust."

The last paragraph from a very long Telegraph article, which indicates that there was a phone call, that went well, that the duo in Montecito briefed the media and this annoyed the King, that William is refusing to talk to his brother or trust him, that the duo desperately need the royal connection, that TBW is launching a Goop style online platform but the launch has been delayed, and so on.

The journalist is very reliable but cites few rock solid sources for this very long report. He does say that hapless is desperate for a reconciliation and regards a cordial conversation with his father as a 'huge' event. That is rather sad. It is a pity that Scobie's book and the compulsion in Montecito to 'leak' elaborated stories to the media are huge obstacles for hapless!
Girl with a Hat said…
Scobie's book's price has already been slashed before it even appears

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12754253/Harper-Collins-SLASHES-price-Omid-Scobie-book.html
Hikari said…
I have imported Sandie's comment from the end of the closed thread.

Eugenie is openly aligned with the duo and claims that Eugenie also bears a grudge that she was not kept informed on the day the Queen died. Surely Andrew communicated with his daughters that day, as Charles did with hapless? Can hapless and Eugenie not acknowledge that William IS different, as IS Charles. Charles was now king (with every moment in that mourning period accountedbfor as public service first) and William his direct heir. That changes everything.

It's always puzzled me that the relationship between E. and Spazz is purportedly so close. Why? They are first cousins, but Euge is a girl, she's 6 years younger, which is a gulf when they were children, and given Spazz's propensity for bragging about the superiority of his position as the 'equal brother' of the heir to the Crown, I can't imagine that he'd have happily evidenced an egalitarian attitude toward his significantly younger York cousins. He'd have rubbed their noses in their inferior station and bragged that he certainly got more sausages at breakfast than *they* did. When Spazz when off to Eton, E. would have barely been seven. Given they both enjoy the party circuit so much, it's plausible that they bonded more once Euge was old enough to join Spazz at clubs, but again, their circles would have been so different. Bea and Eugenie both attended university in London while Spazz was off playing soldiers in the Middle East; his contact with either of them would have been very sporadic and limited to the occasional Royal outing or holiday meet-up.

I diagnose Euge with a hereditary case of Spare-itis. Perhaps that has rubbed off from her parents. Does anyone remember the time in the early 1990s, when Fergie and Diana were still pallling around together that, according to Fergie, the two visited a fortune teller for a lark and Sarah was told that her Beatrice was destined to become Queen? She burbled this in public, seemingly oblivious to the fact that they only way that could come to pass would be if Diana's two boys were no longer living. There's just no way to make that scenario wholesome. I guess both York girls were beastly to Catherine in the early days, but Bea seems to have, at least publically, accepted the reality that the woman they used to mock for being so middle-class and aspirational will one day be Queen, and is deferential. Euge has always radiated a bit more of a frosty attitude towards W. & C.

Examining E.'s alleged grievance on the day the Queen passed away . . that 'she' was not 'kept informed' . . She was in Portugal at the time, wasn't she? I'm sure her father phoned her as soon as he was able but I'm sure the most pressing priority for the Queen's children was to get up to Scotland ASAP and maybe Andrew couldn't reach his overseas kid immediately. #11 was not integral to the funeral plans for HMTQ but apparently that burns her. I want to think well of Euge but this association with Cringe and Ginge just keeps hanging around her like a miasma.
There are idiots in the Mountbatten-Windsor family but I doubt if king Charles is one of them. He is not going to give to this-one's-wife any more material for her memories part 2,3 and 4. And he hardly calls all the papers if he talks to his overseas son.

The latest photo of that unspeakble woman reminds me of The Picture of Dorian Gray.
Fifi LaRue said…
The photo of Mrs. by a turnip fan, is shockingly ugly. Just take a look at CDAN,
Humor Me said…
Thank you for the new thread!
I can believe the invitation to the overseas family for Christmas hinges on the children being present and accounted for. However with Scobie-doo's book out, IF the couple appears (with or without children) the visit will not a warm for the duo. I get that JCMH wants to go back - this is hard work for him, and the * is not making it easier. It is beyond me that pundits are publishing the half in/ half out concept going forward - that is what started this entire mess and it is not going to work now.
KCIII does not need this. PW/ PC do not need this, and the British nation does not need this.
Hikari said…
https://youtu.be/GMqhwBCJIa8?si=mhi0LICjRLaCEx4R

Good video by Sue Smith covering the busy full lives of the legit Royals and ‘those photos' of TBW. She really does look shockingly bad from all the drug abuse. Giving very strong Wallis vibes. Also it’s been commented that the two recently axed Invictus executives were H’s Yes Men. If the remaining committee has any sense, they will inform hairball that his services as their patrons are no longer required and find a new one before the next games. They have a year. Meanwhile citizens of Vancouver are waging petitions against being the host city. They don’t want to be on the hook for security expenses for the egregious duo.

Invictus needs to seek a patron With a background in both sport and the military. Surely at all the Commonwealth there must be such a person. Perhaps if this person were a high profile Canadian, the citizens of Vancouver would feel better. The patronage could and should be a revolving position whereby someone else gets the opportunity to represent the games every five years or so. That would encompass two game cycles, And this way deserving people from many representative countries would have a chance to serve. Hairball is obviously not working out for them anymore. IG is not a Crown patronage and they are not obligated to keep him on in perpetuity. As is now painfully obvious, he should have been released after 2021.

Seen in the comments, two more sets of nicknames for my collection: Hank & Skank/ Pest & DeeList
1) It is not right if this one and his wife destroy the Invictus Games.

2) Scobie's book is old, old, old news. HOW BOOOOORING!
1) It is not right if this one and his wife destroy the Invictus Games.

2) Scobie's book is old, old, old news. HOW BOOOOORING!
SwampWoman said…
Re Eugenie reaching out to Harry while QEII was dying; recollections may vary! (a) It is just as likely that Harry called *her* and she pretended she didn't know anything so that it couldn't be passed on immediately to the press, and/or (b) She wanted to know WTF his problem was holding her dad up in the plane waiting to fly PoW and the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh as well to sit with QEII before she passed. I don't think *anybody* on that plane is going to forgive and forget THAT. Bringing it up again to show how hard done by he was just makes him look worse. He *could* have gotten on that plane on time, but nooo.

Andrew doesn't seem to be the sort of person that would say "Of course I completely forgive Harry and his Leaky Wife for delaying the plane which kept me from telling my mother one last time how much I love her. Their ridiculous tantrums are the largest part of their charm. Such a cute couple, what's not to love?"

It is a little difficult for me to believe that Eugenie would be friendly with the two unless (a) she is being used as a go-between by the BRF to pass messages to Harry, or (b) The Gruesome Twosome are somehow threatening to expose more things about her beloved father.

TL/DR: If there was an actual conversation with Eugenie, I think it was likely that Harry was trying to get information for Meghan to leak to the media but it didn't work. IMHO Leaky Meghan would have relayed all kinds of personal information about QEIIs passing, real or not, had she (or Harry) been allowed to be there.

It must have taken QEII every last bit of her remaining strength in order to appoint Liz Truss as Prime Minister.
Maneki Neko said…
Richard Eden is a guest on Palace Confidential and wrote this in the DM:

"Who could object to a warm phone conversation between birthday boy King Charles and prodigal son Harry?

And it really is good news if, as reported in The Daily Telegraph, the private chat on Tuesday marked a ‘turning point’ in the father-son relationship.

But the key word here is ‘private’, says Richard Eden in the latest edition of his Palace Confidential newsletter.

How did the BBC know ahead of time that Prince Harry would ring his father? And how, afterwards, did the Daily Telegraph discover the contents of a conversation to which few others can have been privy?

We don’t know the answer to those questions. But, continues Eden, this apparent briefing ‘may have heightened the royals’ suspicions about the loose-lipped couple in California.

‘The fact that details of a private conversation were published so quickly might serve as a warning ahead of any possible future invitations,’ he concludes."

Private conversation indeed. If the Harkles' have leaked anything, assuming there was a conversation, then that's the end.

Maneki Neko said…
Sorry, posted too quickly, the DM article was not written by Richard Eden.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Fifi,

I was shocked by the photo of * at CDAN yesterday.

I thought it had been photoshopped to make her look uglier, but it's because there was no filter used for the photo.

Her eyebrows in particular look very bad. They look like caterpillars.

She has deep creases in her face as well, which people say are due to Ozembic use.
Fifi LaRue said…
Re: The Fake News that Eugenie reached out to Hank with questions about QEII's passing.
Not believable. If Hank had the news then why the complaint about not being told about the Queen?
Hank & Skank can't keep their lies and stories straight.

As I recall, it was either the funeral or the coronation, both Eugenie and Beatrice did not make any eye contact with Hank.
Humor Me said…
Breaking news:
Scobie has been Markled!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12757199/harry-meghan-distance-omid-scobie-new-book-sussexes-not-involved-biography.html#comments
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

I couldn't find the photo of * in CDAN. Do you have a link?
Girl with a Hat said…
over at CDAN


Blind Item #12
Speaking of the ginger haired one, he had been assured he was going to be nominated for a Grammy.
abbyh said…
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/11/blind-item-11_01426031297.html
NeutralObserver said…
All the smoke & mirrors that Todgers have been releasing about renting apts. in Kensington Palace, or booting the DDE from Bagshot Park so the creepy ones can live there, 8 months in Cali, 4 months in the UK,(as if!) make me wonder if the RF is in fact negotiating behind the scenes for some sort of rapprochement with the **s.

I don't think they're being offered anything like the delusional scenarios Megsy has been dreaming of. I think the RF might be willing to give them what their predecessors in royal exile had, a modest stipend to let them live outside of the UK, never to return as royals. Harry, like the Duke of Windsor would be allowed to return for special family occasions, funerals, etc., but never with his wife.

The Windsors never uttered a public word against the RF because they knew if they did that they would be cut off & thrown to their creditors. I recall reading a posthumously published letter in some magazine from the Duke of Windsor begging the someone in the RF (his niece?) for an increase in the allowance he & the duchess were receiving. It was really a quite humiliating missive. Harry, of course, is used to begging his father for money, so it probably wouldn't bother him to do it again. The problem would be his spouse. She's a lot crazier than the Duchess of Windsor, & likely couldn't be trusted not to continue lobbing grenades at the House of Windsor.

It makes sense to me that the RF would gladly pay the Todgers some modest amount if they could be trusted to just shut up & go away, perhaps turning up at various ritzy watering holes now & then where their tab is picked up by some rich person with a fascination for royalty of any kind. That is what the Duke & Duchess of Windsor did for the rest of their lives after leaving the RF. From King Charles' & Prince William's point of view that probably looks like a highly desirable fate for the Todgers. Whether the Todgers can be trusted to abide by such a deal is the question.

There is likely some truth in the many rumors of financial problems in the Santa Barbara pizza palace. That gives the RF a very strong hand. I hope they will play it wisely. The problem is that they're dealing with two people who don't seem very far from being high society versions of suicide bombers. It's very hard to deal with crazies, exhausting as well.
Girl with a Hat said…
thanks Abbyh

that was yesterday's CDAN item about Omid Scobie's book. The thread has multiple pics of her at her worst

Today's CDAN item is about Hasnoballs expecting a Grammy nomination.
Girl with a Hat said…
thanks Abbyh

that was yesterday's CDAN item about Omid Scobie's book. The thread has multiple pics of her at her worst

Today's CDAN item is about Hasnoballs expecting a Grammy nomination.
Hikari said…
@Swampie

Re Eugenie reaching out to Harry while QEII was dying; recollections may vary! (a) It is just as likely that Harry called *her*

I constantly remind myself that all we really know about Eugenie's current feelings/contact with the Twats for sure is basically nil. Everything has been filtered through media outlets favorable to the Sussexes and I have a feeling an ongoing relationship has been whipped up in the media to support the Sussex agenda. E. may only be a second-tier Royal but she represents a foothold in the RF if Spazz can make it believable that he's still trading confidences with his cousin. I notice that Hank and Skank don't seem to involve Bea & Edo in their subterfuges but leave them alone.

There's no telling if Jack's relocation to Lisbon was a direct result of too much contact with the Twats; it may have just been a really good opportunity. I also remain unconvinced that the Brooksbankses were in hock to Hank as their landlord for any occupancy of Frogmore Cottage, ie, they were subletting it. It's possible, since Euge would have wanted to be closer to her parents after the birth of August but why wouldn't they just have continued to leave at the very spacious Royal Lodge where they had formed a Covid bubble while E. was expecting the baby? To have E. and J. occupying FroggyCott and *paying* H for the privilege seems like it was too beneficial to the Twats to be genuine. FC has got 5 bedrooms but we were *meant* to believe that Haz was in and out during various transatlantic quarantines at least twice while E. had a newborn there, and that a birthday party was hosted there by M while E and J were still occupying the cottage? If this were the case, why isn't there a single happy snap of the two couples and their children enjoying the garden at said party?

My answer: Because it's all bollocks. E. and J. are featured in a couple of photos during a business-related visit to Los Angeles. She appeared to be the only one willing to speak to Hazardous at the Coronation. But I think SPARE and the Netflix mockumentary changed everything. I doubt E. enjoyed seeing her grandmother mocked and I can't say what if anything Sparry said about his uncle/cousins in his screed because I didn't get very far into it. Now that things are tentatively looking up for Andrew vis. being reinstated to family events, it would not benefit House York in the least for youngest daughter to keep in contact with the Overseas Grifters. Let's hope she recognizes that. Markle used her to get to Sparry and will continue to use her any chance she gets. There is no upside to Euge whatsoever by being friendly with the Twats.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17x05ah/according_to_barkjack_hm_are_living_above_their/

According to a Hollywood analyst, they are living way beyond their means and will have to put their house on the market soon. The gossip is that they will claim that 'they need more privacy'.
-----

And of course they collaborated with Scobie. They also claimed to have not co-operated with him on the first book he wrote. TBW went so far as to to state so in court in a most dismissive way. Scobie also denied in a statement to the court that he had been briefed by them. But then Jason revealed via email evidence that both had briefed Scobie extensively on the book, and then claimed their co-operation must be kept secret. Scobie is a full-on fan who would do anything for the duo (including lying to a judge). He earns royalties from the books he sells, and he needs the money so expect more books from him about the duo. Supposedly Scobie has been in California since June.
Hikari said…
Andrew doesn't seem to be the sort of person that would say "Of course I completely forgive Harry and his Leaky Wife for delaying the plane which kept me from telling my mother one last time how much I love her. Their ridiculous tantrums are the largest part of their charm. Such a cute couple, what's not to love?"

I really think there will never be any getting past that for Sparry. Everyone who was delayed by Sparry's antics and missed saying goodbye to the Queen can never recover that precious time. It might have taken until the book and the Netflix doc for Charles to completely wash his hands of the two but for the rest of the family, it started much earlier, and the Queen's death day put a cap on it. I doubt that anyone in the family will willingly speak to Harry again, even if circumstances compel them to be in the same room.

It must have taken QEII every last bit of her remaining strength in order to appoint Liz Truss as Prime Minister.

The Queen was a remarkable lady. She was actively dying when she stood with a smile to welcome her final Prime Minister. Can we imagine the Olympic strength of will that required? She drove herself to keep going to finish her duty until the very end, and it's like she gave herself permission to leave once that final sovereign duty was discharged.
I feel bad for the Queen's children and spouses who were unable to make it from London in time . . Andrew, Edward, Sophie & William must have been absolutely gutted. Even though HMTQ was likely not conscious, still they would have had the tactile experience of saying goodbye. If it had to play out as it did, it is fitting that the Queen's two eldest children were with her--the daughter who was so very like her and her firstborn, her successor with whom she had the most complicated relationship. Charles's emotional attachment to dear Mummy was very evident during the recent statue unveiling. With all he knew that was to come as his destiny, at least he got a substantial goodbye to his mother.

I'm the eldest of four, like Charles, and the death of a parent hits differently when you are the oldest. Even if the relationship was not all it could have been . . still, we know our parental units the longest of all the kids in the family. We have memories with them that are not shared by the other kids because we were the first, an uncharted territory. We become the repository for family memory over time, for things like birthday/anniversary remembrances and etc. I'm glad for Charles and Anne that they were in Scotland at the opportune time and could have that time alone with their mother. Those two rememembered her when she was just 'Mummy' before she was The Queen, and for a brief while, it could be just those three again.
Sandie said…
This is the blind from CDAN:

"One of the excerpts in this new royal book is almost word for word what the alliterate one told a friend back in September."

Mel said…
Hikari...yep. Eldest here, too. It's hard sometimes being the oldest.

My heart was sad for KC at the statue unveiling. The poor man is still grieving. Really makes you want to put an arm around him.
Magatha Mistie said…

Her Variety performance dress
looks like a 1980’s
Marks and Spencer satin nightie
came with matching dressing gown
and fluffy mules
A street girl - Bland Boudoir

xxxxx said…
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2023
Blind Item #11
The alliterate one and her husband must read the blinds. After the one yesterday describing the word for word conversation that ended up in the book, there is a statement today from the couple saying they had nothing to do with the book. Uh huh.

POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 11:15 AM 136 COMMENTS

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/11/blind-item-11_0135974066.html
It is truly befitting that two weeks before Scobie's book is published those two make it totally irrelevant and deny it. Poor man, this is endgame to him.

Hilarious.
Opus said…
I was much affected by Hikari's final paragraph at 2.26am One was there the longest and can remember ones parents so soon after their marriage which my siblings all younger cannot. Things such as my parents inability to find a name for my little sister. Even as a six year old it was for me to sort out their absurd impasse. Not that they always pleased me as you can see and indeed had marriage been left to the decision of the Lord Chancellor and without reference to the wishes of either party they should not have been allowed to wed - which would I suppose have made me a literal bastard. In the event I was there to catch my Mother at the instant of her death as I had been with her at the beginning. I cried later.

I really came here today to report that I have just seen that Markle is delighted as she is returning to Hollywood. Let us celebrate that event and trust she stays there.
Maneki Neko said…
* never misses an opportunity, does she?

The former actress, 42, took to Variety’s Power of Women event and stole the show on the black carpet in a sleek £1,120 evening dress from New York-based brand Proenza Schouler.

But the mother-of-two was awkwardly interrupted as a woman who appeared to be an aide tried to move her out of the limelight. 🤣 (my emphasis)

Looking eager to move the Duchess along, the woman tried to get Meghan's attention - but when Prince Harry’s wife seemed unfazed by her attempt, she uttered: 'That's fine'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12761581/Awkward-moment-Meghan-Markle-interrupted-aide-photographed-glitzy-Variety-gala-Duchess-squeezes-hand-continues-beam-cameras.html
NeutralObserver said…
@Magatha Mistie, I love your limericks, & usually think they're spot on, but I think TW looked about as good as she can in her beige dress at the Variety gala. It fit, wasn't wrinkled, & she even didn't look as slutty as some of the more famous actresses at the event. She also seemed to have applied her bronzer pretty evenly, & if she was on any mood enhancers, they seemed to have made her quite cheerful, but not totally unhinged, as she's seemed in other recent outings. All & all she was presentable. Not sure if Getty did any photo shopping, but whatever.

@Hikari, @Mel< @Opus, I'm not a first child myself, but have seen what burden it can be in my own family. There are always expectations for the eldest. They may be given privileges, but it seems there's a price to pay. Younger siblings get to live their lives with less parental oversight, which can be a good or bad thing, but in many ways, it's easier.
NeutralObserver said…
TW must have really set the RF's teeth on edge, with all of her expensive designer, off-the-rack, wear-it-once, ready-to-wear clothing. King Charles is frequently photographed in some decades old overcoat, which like all of his clothing, was custom made for him, & then carefully mended over the years. Often, news sites will thoughtfully circle the darned areas for Joe Public to see & ponder.

Custom made, or 'bespoke' as pretentious people like TW put it, has always been part of KC's life. Apparently Ginger mentioned carefully darned expensive linen sheets in his book. The RF seems to live by the dictum, buy the best you can afford, & make it last forever. That way of thinking has become an anachronism, as the world economy seems to be driven by cheap stuff to be thrown away quickly. A few eco/greenies have tried to mention making things last a bit longer, but it hasn't caught on in any significant way.
Why does Harry think he was the most important person when the Queen died? She was the mother of Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward and the last two were forced to sit in an aeroplane and wait for Harry while he was making difficulties and demanding that Meghan was the most important person to come to see the Queen? Really, make this make sense. It must have been truly horrible to Harry's family to tolerate his sick, childish egotism when they did not know if they had time to get to their own mother before it was too late.

He truly is a piece of shit. He was not interested in seeing the queen before she was dying!
Girl with a Hat said…
@NeutralObserver,

I remember reading about Prince Philip having a pair of 60 year old trousers brought in to his tailor's to be repaired and adjusted. Philip was proud that after all that time, the trousers had to be let out only an inch around the waist.

But then again, we are talking about a social class that acquires its furniture by inheritance, not by purchasing or ordering bespoke items.

It's new money versus old.
Opus said…
I now have some better things to say apart from having observed the Duchess to be on the cover of the latest edition of various magazine where she tells Harry that now is not the right time to divorce and why he wants to return to blighty for Xmas.

For the King: he has waited a lifetime to fulfill his manifest destiny in the way his sister or younger brothers are not so charged yet he could only come to the throne at the moment he must grieve for his mother whom he had known for so many decades. Eldest children in my estimation have it toughest as they must perforce lead their brothers and sisters (being that much older and capable) and this continues into adulthood. More is expected of them, more effort is as with say J.S. Mill put into them, and equally their parents doing it for the first time make mistakes which with younger children they can then correct. Heavy is the head that wears a crown.
Maneki Neko said…
@NeutralObserver, @Girl with a Hat

Charles was famously photographed in an old coat with darned pockets, I think. Even Catherine has a very old pair of boots that are properly looked after and still good.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/royals/king-charles-holey-socks-signs-upper-class-wardrobe/

Nouveau riche * has to wear couture, the more expensive, the better (only in her opinion).
OCGal said…
@xxxxx, thanks for the CDAN link about Scobie’s new book. I’ve been idly pondering why the book pushes the demonstrably false narrative that H & M had no idea, ZERO idea the Queen’s health was failing and that the end was near. Well, poster Tommy nails a persuasive reason:

“I think it's clear Harry & Meghan had a real objective with this book (…) and that was they need to make SURE they establish the narrative that they had NO KNOWLEDGE that the Queen was in poor health prior to her last hours. OF COURSE they knew, the woman had been suffering from bone cancer for well over a year. But IF they knew, then they are the insensitive, self-absorbed assholes they are by not accepting her invitation to visit her in Scotland that last summer. BUT this book is pushing the idea they were VICTIMS, victims, I tell ya....of dark machinations by wizards and witches to keep the Queen from her favorite person in the world and his beloved wife. They were kept in the dark and then left with no support on that dark day.” BINGO.

On a related note, if I were the late Queen’s children Edward and Andrew, and had been urgently sitting on the plane’s tarmac waiting unsuccessfully for Harry to arrive and board while he “negotiated” MM’s attendance, and directly as a result of the hour or more late takeoff I was thwarted from getting to my beloved mother and sovereign’s bedside in time to make my farewells, I would never, ever forgive the twosome (H & M).

I believe that Harry’s inexcusable delay of the plane taking HMTLQ’s children plus heir to the throne grandson William to rush to her bedside while she was still alive, was the absolute final blow to William. No more chances. I think this final folderol clinched it for William, and that Harry is finally dead to William in every way…as dead as the late Queen is, but not mourned in any way, only thought of with utter contempt, and regret that he had been given so many chances and actively and purposely botched every single one.

The only good that came from the late Queen’s death flight fiasco, is a final GOOD RIDDANCE to Harry as part of a loving family.
Maneki Neko said…
Re *'s dress at the LA Gala, it shows her flat as a pancake and is it her left nipple that I see under the fabric? Not a good look.
It seems obvious that she's touting for work/projects. I don't know if anyone will give her a look in, posing 'for pictures with two people who both happen to be Hollywood players, smiling 'for a photographer as she sat next to Pearlena Igbokwe, the Nigerian-born chairman of Universal Studio Group who runs the gigantic NBC TV network.' (that Nigeria link again). She insert herself into as many pix as she wants, I don't think anyone is interested, even though she thinks she has a lot to offer.
Fifi LaRue said…
All the women honored at the Variety event had achieved remarkable work in the entertainment field. All, except for Mrs. Turnip. Her last accomplishment was more than ten years ago, and since then, nothing.
Fifi LaRue said…
Mrs. Turnip has only one look, a gigantic grin staring directly into any camera. Other actresses have a variety of facial expressions for public consumption. Turnip's got one look only. Oh, I forgot the crying one. Okay, she's got two expressions. for public consumption. She's got the evil look when she thinks no one is watching.
Hikari said…
I hope William, with the support of his wife is getting therapy if he needs it to deal with the sickening betrayal of his only sibling. Apart from Catherine, he has no peers like CRIII to comfort him And feel that place of support that William’s only brother should have taken. Charles has stalwart Anne as his Gold Stick. William has nobody in the sense of having a sibling, fellow blood Royal who knows what burdens he has to carry. Catherine is an excellent wife, but in the power structure she is only consort and didn’t grow up with this. Harry has abandoned the brother who always watched out for him when they were kids. It must be terrible to have to carry on with Royal duties smiling while Often exhausted due to being stretched thin and have to be confronted multiple times daily with fresh attacks emanating from Montecito. Charles has William Catherine, Anne, The Edinburghs And Camilla to help share his burdens. He can always count on a laugh from his jolly niece Zara and her hale husband. Compared to this William has no one. By the time he assumes the crown, his aunts and uncles will be slowing down with age. Apart from George his children will probably not be as involved in the Firm as the Queen’s younger kids have been. William has aged a great deal since his marriage, from a callow pin-up boy into a future leader of gravitas. With every year that passes, he becomes more Mountbatten than Spencer in his bearing. The demands of his future would have been eased with a loyal brother by his side, who’d chosen a wife that could be a credit to the family business. Instead William’s got what he’s got— Deprived early of his mother, and often contentious relationship with his distant and incredibly busy remaining parent, and now his only sibling stabs him in the back daily With daggers dipped in poison. He may be a king in waiting with unimaginable riches, but I can’t help feeling sorry for William.
OCGal said…
What a great point submitted by a poster on X! I simply don’t think this way, so I admire those who can think this way and reveal two-faced prevaricators for what they really are:

“Just a thought: If Harry, as Scooby says, had no clue that HLMTQ was dying, why did Meghan insist on going along, with the resultant row? She'd refused to visit before, what was different this time? Something amiss here!”
Have been away for a few days & have posted on previous thread in error re the Mirror criticising OS's book.

I have now decided that I do not wish the Harkles ill; I just hope I'll outlive them.

FWIW, I'll be 79 by Christmas).
Girl with a Hat said…
@OCGal,

* wanted to go along because she will climb over a dying person in order to get an Instagram like
OKay said…
@WBBM I don't see either of them surviving another 20 years. Think you can make centenarian status? You seem quite active.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hiksri

Good point about William not having a peer to comfort him. The tragedy is that H could have been ally, had he had a proper role rather than being a playboy and, more importantly, a proper wife, willing to pull her weight, supportive of her husband and his family etc. Unfortunately, he had his head turned by some unscrupulous floozy with the result we know. He seemed to have been 'managed' before and still could have been with the right job and spouse, and could have been an ally to William and a support. Ha had to throw it away for a few bjs in Botswana with some dubious tart.
Mel said…
I don't think one ever loses that sense of responsibility for the younger siblings. I'm in my 70's and my siblings are all in their 60's; I still feel responsible for their well-being.
Girl with a Hat said…
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 2023
Blind Item #10
The alliterate one has essentially moved to Los Angeles and at a recent event loved that most of the actresses at an event who are much higher on the acting list than she ever would be, were kissing her butt. One person who wasn't was impressed is this foreign born A+/A list actress who is a monarchist through and through.

POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 11:00 AM 61 C

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2023/11/blind-item-10_02101246830.html#disqus_thread

some good comments here, including:

Please_Go_Away_Meghan
an hour ago
Meghan Markle at the Woman of Power Awards where it has already been stated Oprah was there and didn't interact with Meghan once. Also, ass-kissing in Hollyweird is equivalent to gaslighting. I hope she thanked MWE for securing the invitation for her.
Magatha Mistie said…

Flat white

Awash in beige
She milked the stage
Her skin both cafe
and lait
A peep of an udder
Gave rise to a shudder
As the heifer delivered
her whey
Megligee…



Magatha Mistie said…

@NeutralObserver
Ahhh, sorry to disappoint,
I promise to try harder 😉
I couldn’t get past the lopsided
shoulder, I know it was meant,
not for me.
Her bronzer was half ‘n’ half
and the skank split skirt,
good for squatting?
The cherry on top
visible boobs and nips,
so deglace,
and her smoky eyes
burning black coals of self adulation.
Otherwise not bad 😜


@Okay

Wow! I was going to say that looking at the survival issue in your terms has given me my Thought for the Day - but your comment will keep me chuckling for a week or more. The next 2 decades, I hope!
I'd like to recommend this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17xpa5p/new_from_the_divine_hilary_rose_in_the_times/

It's true to life, so very true, and hilarious.
Interesting...

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-harrys-close-bond-two-121711364.html

`Prince Harry's close bond with two royals is 'causing concern' for The Firm'
...though I'm suspicious about this bit:

` Harry enjoys offering advice to his cousin about how to further her career, while Meghan's great with parenting, lifestyle, and nutrition'.
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Magatha Mistie said…

S’no dog

Unleashed and unfettered
from royal rigueur
No longer denied
her choice of colour
She now appears
more oft, in beige
Freudian slip
yellow, neige…

Magatha Mistie said…

@Hikari
Thank you for understanding
King Charles.

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar
War babies are tough!

Girl with a Hat said…
@Magatha,

are you calling her dress "yellow snow"? LOL
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

A peep of an udder🤣. I wouldn't quite go as far as calling it an udder, though, her breast was more like a fried egg but the word is appropriate considering what udders belong to.
Hikari said…
Harry enjoys offering advice to his cousin about how to further her career, while Meghan's great with parenting, lifestyle, and nutrition'.

These two are doubling down on their ridiculous PR since Hank has never had a demonstrable 'career' in all of his 39 years of life, if we don't count the 'Bunker Harry' period where he pretended to be a soldier. Meanwhile, Skank is still insisting that she's great with parenting and nutrition despite no demonstrable kids and her recent skeletal appearance.

She was looking better at the awards show despite insisting on wearing what looked like a tea-dyed tablecloth from your Grandma's dining room that had had bits hacked out of it. After claiming that the RF forbid her to wear colors, we can count on one hand the times in the last 3+ years she wore anything bright. She's obviously read the mantra that 'neutral tones look expensive' but is no manifestation of herself where she actually looks good in beige. Only someone very pale with pale hair (like Gwyneth P.) could pull off that non-color.

I am looking at the forthcoming issue of Kneepads (Nov. 27) which has arrived at the library. The cover features Willim and Harry looking glum with the screaming headline IT'S OVER! Scabby's forthcoming hatchet job gets the center spread. I've only made it to the first page so far but this quote from Scabby is promininently placed: Those fractures go back much further than we ever thought. It shows the Palace really knows how to put on certain optics to make us believe something.

FFS, Scabby, what else have your masters hired you for but putting out certain optics???

In this fashion, the egregious duo will forevermore elude a crumb of responsibility for their own behavior or current reputation . . They aren't f'ing grifters who shamelessly exploited the late Queen and caused her grief. It was ALL down to 'optics'.

Well, there's a Millennial buzzword for you, one which I abhor. There is no longer objective truth, only the 'optics' of it.

Gird your loins everyone. I will read this crap today and try not to vomit on the magazine as it does not belong to me. I shall hold it at arm's length over a wastebasket as a precaution. The problem is that the American people tend to take Kneepads as gospel when it comes to their celebrity news. At least the percentage of the gullible folk that read this drivel. Megaliar and her dupe have certainly educated me on how a celeb or celeb wannabe with access to a PR agent can purchase favorable coverage in Kneepads and other mags. Once upon a time I used to belief that the magazines featured legitimate news about celebs and paid them for the privilege, not the other way 'round. Silly rabbit I was.


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Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,
@Magatha,

I don't know what you've partaking of, but it's made you surpass yourselves today.

Bravo to both of you!
Fifi LaRue said…
Some time ago, a few years, someone posting on this blog discovered that a cover on Kneepads cost something like $350,000. So the Turnips have purchased the cover, and some interior pages. Kneepads comes out weekly? Mr. Turnip doesn't care how his money is spent? Because it ain't Mrs. Turnip's money. He's the earner, not her.

The dress. She pulled the left sleeve down to be one shouldered. The fabric was all lumpy. She has a fool for a stylist--herself.
NeutralObserver said…
@Magatha Mistie, a slew of mini-masterpieces!LOL.

I still think she looked better than she did at the Invictus Games, where, sadly, she didn't even look very clean.

You & @Maneki have alluded to what her dress did for her physical attributes; true, she's not very curvy, but she was at least being honest about her figure, & honesty isn't a habitual trait for her.

I was just happy that we didn't see much of her feet & legs, at least not in the photos I glanced out.

@Hikari, I'd give your posts a thumb's up emoji, if I could.

The duo seems to be stirring up their relationship with the RF once more, with the release of the silly book, & their PR which seems to be begging for a return to the fold, while dumping on the RF at the same time. I don't think it will move the needle of public approval or forgiveness from the RF in any way.
Hikari said…
@Neutral

The duo seems to be stirring up their relationship with the RF once more, with the release of the silly book, & their PR which seems to be begging for a return to the fold, while dumping on the RF at the same time. I don't think it will move the needle of public approval or forgiveness from the RF in any way.

So much for olive branches, eh?

The dueling narratives for the Twats are entirely schizophrenic. (Cue "Dueling Banjos").

Just a few days ago, the narrative was all "H&M shared a warm birthday phone call with the King that is a turning point for reconciliation! Archie and Lilibet Facetimed with Grandpa!" All the while the pair knew that this Kneepads story was in the pipeline. This story which alleges that the Palace has been spewing lies about the Sussexes since forever and Hank and Skank's relationship with the RF is beyond repair.

No legit PR firm would allow such scrambled and psychotic messaging to be released concurrently. Two options:

1. The Twats (meaning *) are doing their own PR or
2. This bizarro world contradictory messaging is an intentional strategy to obfuscate, needle, harrass and otherwise drive everyone completely mad.

The inmates are in charge of the asylum. Harley Quinn and the Joker are running amok in the world in real form. The insanity is real. So why will no one shut this down?

Their PR is a like water torture with words instead of droplets. It's beyond tedious.
Maneki Neko said…
Here is a video with Shauna Kay. I can't find a direct link to the video but this link should take you to it: Endgame SNARKY Rebuttal To Omid Scobie’s Book: Her Majesty’s Death - Part 1. I like the way she calls Montecito 'Melodramacito'.

https://www.youtube.com/@thevintageread
SwampWoman said…
Neutral Observer said: I still think she looked better than she did at the Invictus Games, where, sadly, she didn't even look very clean.

Personally, I think she demonstrated that she does not care at all about her appearance at Invictus Games because that is Harry's project, just like she didn't care about her appearance at the BRF projects. Hollyweird is the *only* thing she cares about. She doesn't care about her partners, invisible children, family. Just being seen with the stars.
Hikari said…
WARNING: TRIGGER ALERT

I produce portions verbatim of the forthcoming article from Kneepads. Read at your own risk because I am so angry, my stomach is churning. If we feel like this, imagine what it's like for Charles, William, Catherine and all of the others of the late Queen's loved ones. Because her errant addled imbecile of a grandson is trying, with his evil succubus to destroy Her Majesty's legacy of 70 years of selfless service to her people of the UK and the Commonwealth. He may have her DNA but he is the polar oppposite of her in every way.

He is beyond vile. The gargantuan arrogance of this loser who actually believes *himself and his feelings* to be of GREATER importance than the British monarchy. Yes, this is what Scobie has written. How DARE the future King prioritize the future of the monarchy over the transient and dope-adddled *feelings* of Harold?

Well, the last time there was a fracture between royal brothers, one was sent away to protect the Crown, and that one had been a King, not the idiot Spare of the heir.

Elizabeth Regina herself never saw herself as greater than the Crown, but its caretaker and its servant. Where does her pillock of a grandson get off thinking he is greater than the monarchy? There is no way that the succubus would have gained such traction in Sparry's headspace if he hadn't already been like this. Joining forces with her just made him reckless enough to let it out.

**************

I saw Harry's release of Spare as his last attempt at telling his family how he's felt for years, " says Scobie whose new book Endgame chronicles both the beakdown of the royal family (note use of small r—ed) and the weakening of the modern monarchy. "Because, clearly, there's never been an open enough forum to have these conversations or share these feelings."

The royal family, of course, is not known for its focus on feelings. But in Endgame Scobie writes that perhaps more than at any other time in history, the family is ignoring its internal fractures at its own peril because "part of the buy-in from the (British) public is that the royal family is the nation's family." And yet, Scobie says, heir-to-the-throne William has prioritized his loyalty to the monarchy, even quietly cooperating with the U.K. press to undermine Harry, (Kensington Palace had no comment when reached by People about the allegations.)

In writing Endgame, "I was talking to a source quite early on in the process, and they called Harry a 'defector", and said that was William's view, says Scobie. "These were two men who once upon a time were firmly aligned in their outlook. One of them had to move on to also protect the crown.
Hikari said…
But will there be a crown left to protect decades from now? "There's a real chance here to learn and adapt to modern society and also make up for mistakes of the past, says Scobie. "It's their move. Even if the monarchy endures, the question remains whether sacrificing brotherly bonds is worth it. There are probably sad realizations that will be had far too late in the journey, " says Scobie. . . "In the eyes of some within the institution, Harry is a threat to the crown. HIs freedom to exert his own thinking outside the confines of the institution has made him the enemy. Which is why, for the brothers , he says, "There's no going back."

All this is preamble to a windy excerpt from the book that details the saga of Hank to cadge a ride to Scotland and when denied, scramble to pay for his own flight. The emphasis is on how Hank kept calling and texting and Being Ignored. Absolutely zilch​ is mentioned about how his palaver delayed the flight of the others by more than an hour.

Hank continues to insist through his mouthpiece that the King and he continue to have a 'warm' relationship--* sends the King pictures of the kids all the time!!! and that KCIII was the only person who contacted him on That Day. Still buttering up to Pa and casting William as the heavy and the ringleader of all the ill will against Hank and Skank.

"You really feel when you talk to people working at the palace that they really consider what Harry and Meghan, but mostly Harry say as just irritating noise. The feelings of this man are not worth anything anymore. That's sort of typical of any big corporation. I know it's different because they are family. But as we've known for a long time, the meaning of family is very different to them."

Many prayers and good wishes for the continued health of His Majesty. Reading such traitorous and unhinged bilge would not be good for him. It remains to be seen whether William can read it without having a stroke.

Endgame is going to be the end all right. But not for the Crown.
Girl with a Hat said…
LouLou LA -Flying the Flag for our British Royals reposted
Princess Knox Cat 🇨🇦 🇬🇧 🇮🇪 Citizen
@Knoxcat55
Neil Sean confirms (from a Dior spokesperson allegedly) that they didn't sign Meghan because her team @WME bamboozled them and tried to force their hand. Now they've signed the actress playing Catherine, Princess of Wales. Haha. Can't make this up! #MeghanMarkleEXPOSED

https://twitter.com/Knoxcat55/status/1725710126835777675


Fifi LaRue said…
Meg Bellamy is representing Dior. She's 20 while the old hag Mrs. Turnip is closer to 44. No contest.

IMO it's hilarious that event organizers had difficulty getting Mrs. Turnip off the red carpet at the most recent event. If that doesn't prove she's a certified lunatic, I don't know what does. I hope SNL or some other show makes fun of it.
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, the gruesome twosome's mouthpiece is as delusional as his subjects. He seems to think he's some sort of major royal historian. He doesn't realize that they're just a footnote to RF history. An institution as old as the RF has many such minor troublesome characters.

The book seems to have highlighted what A-holes the two made of themselves as a family & nation grieved the loss of a beloved monarch & matriarch.

I fully concur with @OCGal that the way in which they delayed Her Majesty's more significant children & one of the heirs from reaching her bedside in time to say goodbye is unforgivable.

@SwampWoman, I had exactly that same thought. She had nothing but contempt for both Harry's projects, & her royal engagements. She looked awful in her only engagement with the Queen.

I've seen a lot of dislike for the beige dress. If you think back to others she's worn, it doesn't seem so bad. Remember the hideous neon green outfit she wore for her last Royal engagement, with all of the weird bulges & visible undergarment lines? Of course, with that outfit, she may have been fitted with recording devices. She wouldn't have the nerve to pull that in a room full of H'wood bigwigs. They would have had her for lunch!
Fifi LaRue said…
I just looked at the photo of Mrs. Turnip at the event. Her face was really bad, looking straight on. Her eyes are crazy. She pulled the left cap sleeve off her shoulder. It looked stupid. It was not edgy. She must've been high on something.
NeutralObserver said…
A hilarious post on SMM Reddit on the duo's mouthpiece's book.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17y9fay/unpacking_endgames_royal_revelations_scabies/
Maneki Neko said…
DM headline
'Meghan Markle's A-list party appearance is viewed as a 'slick power play' but in Hollywood you're only as good as your last hit - whether you are a 'duchess or a doorman', industry expert reveals'

Remind me, what was her last hit?

'Meghan was at a table in the centre of the room, near to Leo DiCaprio'... She really like to position herself close to A list .

'The Duchess, who had nothing specific to promote apart from her brand, was not on the official guest list actors.' Why was she there then?

'The Duchess has lost a reported 15 lb in the past few months'... She's lost too much weight - her face looks old and scraggy in one photo.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12765997/meghan-markle-list-party-appearance-power-play-hollywood.html

Hikari said…
It was five years ago almost to the day that the duplicitous duo stood in the sunken gardens at Kensington palace and announced their engagement. They were being hailed as a refreshing rejuvenation of the monarchy to bring the house of Windsor into the modern age. What a difference five years makes. Regarding the beige dress at the recent event, skank has certainly looked worse. The design of the dress was kind of interesting, but she’s mangled it and it washed her out since it’s not in her color palette whatsoever. She would’ve made a better impression in something more vivid. That would be a good dress for a luncheon or some Junior League tea, but not a red carpet. Worn appropriately with shoulders covered and appropriate lingerie, it might have served for a daytime engagement as part of the royal family, but it lacked any sort of visual impression for evening. Her hair looked decent for once, but there’s no point in praising her because it’s just beyond pathetic that she traded life as a member of the royal family, married to a senior royal, for this. The fact that she was sat in the back and legitimate celebrities including God mother Oprah refused to even acknowledge her is some tiny comfort. She doesn’t deserve praise for being groomed like a human being because that is the bare minimum anywhere.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Maneki Neko,

I read in the CDAN thread about her appearance at the Power of Women event, that she was sitting far from the centre, and there were no A listers around her.

I also don't think there were any men at the event, and I doubt Leonardo di Caprio was there.
NeutralObserver said…
It looks like the dress came with the one-shoulder look & the bulges. Proenza Schouler was big back in the early aughts & was a fave of Anna Wintour for a while. Below is a link to a version of the dress in black at Neiman Marcus. Mercifully, the length that she wore seemed to minimize her legs & feet. She may have managed to display her 'mile long' legs in photos which weren't used. She tends to look awkward when she's trying do a super model pose. She's better off just standing straight with finishing school posture, like Princess Anne, but that's probably not in her play book.

https://www.neimanmarcus.com/p/proenza-schouler-rosa-colorblock-off-the-shoulder-slits-hem-midi-dress-prod267150565?utm_source=google
Hikari said…
I need to correct myself: it’s been six years since the engagement not five. 5 1/2 years of marriage which is longer than I thought they would last. But it’s not really a true marriage in any sense of the word, is it? I strenuously doubt they have cohabitated for any length of time since they got engaged, and it’s all smoke and mirrors.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: There's a lot of smoke and mirrors with celebrities. Will Smith risked his career for a woman who cuckolded him, and they hadn't cohabited for five years at the time of the incident. Meryl Streep and her husband. Diane Von Furstenberg and Barry Diller (he's gay.) There's so many more that are guessed at. Sussing out Hairy's preference for male companionship, and the pained look on his face at the wedding, plus the projection recently going on, it's very probable the Turnips have had separate lives all along. Skank got a title and access to money, and Hairless got a cover.
Magatha & GWAH

Our Met Office now habitually issues `Yellow Snow Warnings', the lowest level of winter alert.

To me, from my days in the mountains, the only meaning I attach to it, though, is `Never eat yellow snow'...
Sandie said…
Some wonderful satire:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17yljk7/leaked_email_harkles_aid_negotiates_their_holiday/

From the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Hello Charles,
I'm reaching out with regard to the open invitation implied to Her Serene Girl Boss Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and Dr. Prince Harold, Duke of Sussex, PhD. I am delighted to inform you that the duke and duchess have graciously agreed to accept your hospitality and are eager to plan their holiday visit to the UK, provided the following terms are met:

The government of the UK shall designate the day of their arrival a bank holiday.

A private jet from the royal fleet will be expected to transport the Sussexes from their home in Montecito, California to the UK. In addition to purchasing 12 carbon offset credits, the duke and duchess have generously agreed to offer the British people an opportunity to activate their collective environmental consciousness by refraining from taking hot showers for the month of December.

The Sussexes will accept a formal greeting from the Choir of King’s College, Cambridge. They have agreed the following songs are permissible as they descend from the aircraft: Girl on Fire by Alicia Keys, Run the World (Girls) by Beyonce, and Independent Woman (Part I) by Destiny’s Child.

The duke and duchess have agreed to be accommodated in the principal bedchamber at Sandringham House for the duration of their visit, pending the room being repainted in a satisfactory non-toxic paint (beige or greige with warm undertones preferred) produced in a carbon neutral facility. Please see attached PDF for a list of suggested eco-friendly paint brands, as well as recommendations for bed linens and toiletries.

As a gesture of goodwill, the duke and duchess have agreed to lead the formal walkabout on Christmas morning.

The duke and duchess will be formally acknowledged during the church service.

The duchess will address the congregation for 25 minutes.

The duke and duchess shall be referred to as Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex and Prince Harold, the Duke of Sussex by any and all parties for the duration of their visit to the UK.

The duke and duchess have kindly agreed to have their pictures taken with you and your wife, Will and Kate, their children, the British prime minister, and Harry Styles.

The duke and duchess shall wait 24 hours following the conclusion of Christmas festivities to commence a formal summit negotiating their progressive new role as part-time senior working royals.

Please let me know if you have any questions at this point in time. We look forward to working with you and your team.

Warmest regards,

Chief of Staff, The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
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Sandie said…
To Hollywood elite, the Sussex pair are about as useful as a one legged man at an arse kicking contest.
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However, very reputable sources at Deadline confirmed Friday Harkle projects involving Tyler Perry are now in the works.
https://twitter.com/BarkJack_/status/1726123750054297759

It is worth perusing through the BarkJack account. Hollywood elite are keeping their distance, but she has a powerful backer in Tyler Perry (he has a lot of money). Smart move to make him godfather of Lilli. They wanted Oprah as well but Oprah declined.
Maneki Neko said…
The will they/won't they continues. Christmas in the US or the UK?
Royal Nikkah in the Times says the Harkles' would love Sandringham at Christmas but they haven't been invited. The Times says Charles and H are talking, the says the Twits would be willing to accept an invitation to spend the festive season in Britain, and also to Balmoral in the summer, etc.

I cannot see * at Sandringham playing charades with Anne and Camilla, Catherine, Sophie etc. As for Balmoral, she would hate it, it's just not her scene. Diana didn't like it and I can't see * liking it. Scotland is really beautiful but not for her.
Sandie said…
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara-1.tumblr.com/post/734275400385150976/harry-and-meghans-imagined-year-royal-snubs

Layers and layers of sarcasm in this long Times article, which 8s shared at the above link.

NeutralObserver said…
I've recently realized two things about TW: Judging by her blissed out expression while she was hogging the paps at the Variety gala,(She may have been on mood enhancers which keep you high without knocking you down.); it will be very hard for the RF or the public to get rid of her. The woman is completely addicted to attention, & she would never have been in that room if she hadn't married her useful idiot.

Many of us, myself included, only become interested in her when she irritates us by impugning & trying to manipulate the much abused (by the Todgers) RF. The 'holiday invitations' thing is a perfect example. They drag the RF into their sorry mess, & imply KC is a cruel father & Grandpa if he doesn't extend them some sort of groveling invitation to all 'family' events. It is well known KC hates having private family matters discussed at all in the public, so he won't comment on any of their claims. If they want to repair 'family,' they should visit her poor father, an easy drive from their California home.

She's tried the independent, famous woman thing, & it didn't work. She was good for a few laughs, but she didn't get the requisite buzz, so she's back harassing the Royals. Ugh.
SwampWoman said…
Maneki Neko said: I cannot see * at Sandringham playing charades with Anne and Camilla, Catherine, Sophie etc. As for Balmoral, she would hate it, it's just not her scene. Diana didn't like it and I can't see * liking it. Scotland is really beautiful but not for her.

Funny how some people that profess to be "green" really hate being in nature. They also hate the rural people that plant the native wildflowers and trees that feed and shelter the native wildlife. Forget about the people in suburban life that want to nourish and sustain the native bees and butterflies and birds by planting native wildflowers or even, heaven forbid, plant a vegetable garden. The zoning board will call them weeds and issue citations.
OKay said…
@Sandie Word on the street is that the Harkles are very much on the outs with Tyler Perry. I also went to Deadline and, while there is a relatively recent article about him, there is absolutely nothing talking about the Harkles. Can you provide a link?
OCGal said…
@Sandie, I am choking with hilarious laughter at the wonderful (fake) email from H & M’s assistant trying to score an invitation to Sandringham for the holidays. This is pure gold from start to finish.

I love the breezy chummy introductory email greeting “Hello Charles,” plus

The overly abundant demands craftily couched as gracious agreements, as if negotiations had been ongoing. Expected, agreed, agree, over and over again. The list of demands is meant to be funny and ludicrously over the top, but I suspect is perilously close to the truth when it comes to what the two dolts force their aides and attorneys to lob to the royals.

And then comes the delightful end to the email. I laughed so hard at the stupid tag line which virtue signalers insist on using about considering the environment before printing. Plus the out of office reply. It is gold, I tell you, pure gold.

“Warmest regards,

Chief of Staff, The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
Please consider the environment before printing this email

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Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie,

thanks for that link to the cat with the emerald tiara.

it's hilarious because it's almost true.
I have come to rely primarily on Lady C for information about the Harkles. She appears to have at least one source within the royal family—likely Princess Michael of Kent, who is her friend, and her social circle is littered with individuals with ties to the royals. Yesterday she spoke in veiled terms of a brewing scandal regarding Invictus Games—she is always very careful with her words for legal reasons, but she implied that the Harkles are under scrutiny for their misuse of Invictus funds—travel, wardrobe, etc. etc. Lady C said the charity is in a financial crisis. We’ll see if this is true.
Fifi LaRue said…
I doubt very much Tyler Perry has something in the works with Skank. That's more of Skank's magical thinking. Skank wore out her welcome with TP's house rental. She burned that bridge. There's no photo of the baptism, so it didn't happen. Him saying something nice about her in the last year? That was epic trolling. The only thing Hank and Skank have going is that book they bought the rights to. If Skank is putting out that there's a project with TP, then the production for their movie ain't moving along, it's sitting dead in the water. She's impossible to work with, that's one of the reasons nothing happens.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

As @OCGal said, the fake letter to Charles is pure gold. One thing missing though: they didn't mention accommodation for the sprogs, organic food (their own chef), toys, books etc. Is it because there is a doubt about the existence of said children? They would - in real life - make demands for themselves, and let's not forget security, but do they really care about their children, assuming they exist/are with them?
Sandie said…
https://twitter.com/BarkJack_/status/1726123750054297759

According to the above source, Deadline claims that she has projects in the works with Tyler Perry. I have no idea who Deadline is or how reliable they are.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17yvqsn/some_x_tea/

Plenty of tea at the above post. She was supposedly not on the official guest list at that event.
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More on the Deadline link: I think the guys from the Barkjack account spoke to journalists they know at Deadline rather than repeating something they read in an article in Deadline.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Fifi,

I think that that trip to the Caribbean on a private jet was a present from Tyler Perry because the jet landed in Atlanta.

Why he gave them free use of his private jet, I have no idea.

It leads me to believe that there is some level of friendship there but perhaps Tyler wants to limit his favours to things where he has minimal exposure to the diva.
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2023.11.19-222252/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12768409/prince-harry-meghan-markle-not-welcome-royal-christmas-dinner-insiders-claim.html

Rebecca English has good royal sources.
Girl with a Hat said…
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One Sinner on SMM suggested that, among *'s other demands, she wanted the Nicene Creed altered! Presumably to have her name inserted somewhere here:

...And [we believe] in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver-of-Life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spake by the prophets. And [we believe] in one, holy, catholic and Apostolic Church. We acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins, [and] we look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen. (from Wikipedia).

I expect she'd want to be mentioned right at the start:

`We believe in Meghan, the Mother Almighty...'

She certainly has the hubris to arrogate unto herself that which is God's.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17zdzdn/when_harry_calls_charles/

The Royal Rogue has made a brilliant video of Charles refusing a call from his son. I am still chuckling!
Girl with a Hat said…
a commenter at the DM says that * has a young boy call King Charles to try to speak to him as Archie. Can you imagine what Charles has to go through? he has to be tough to try to avoid her machinations to the point he refuses to speak to someone that may be his grandson.
Article from Woman & Home, at
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/royal-knew-meghan-had-short-121659420.html

According to a royal insider, Princess Anne knew that Meghan Markle had a “short shelf-life” within the Royal Family after their very first meeting. Quoting an unnamed insider who was reportedly well aware of the first meeting between the Princess Royal and the Duchess of Sussex, Meghan left “dumbfounded.”

It's not entirely clear from the article whether it was Markle or the Princess Royal who was left dumbfounded - who would you expect to be more taken aback?
Sandie said…
@WBBM
I did read the article and it was TBW who was dumbfounded after that meeting with Anne. (Neil Sean is the original source.) Why?

"she (Anne) pointed out that it wasn't (sic) a working monarchy, it was a job, you turn up on time, you do your research, and do the duty. It's all about the project at hand. She also pointed out that whatever charities you are involved in, you needed to get involved and get immersed.”
We live in interesting times. The Duke and duchess of Montecito are returning to Britain and are restarting their royal duties for the king and country. The duchess is composing lists of the jewels of the late queen she expects to be ready and waiting for her on her arrival (she has not yet informed the government which palace she will choose as her accommodation but she will shortly). The duke has given to his Majesty the King a list of the highest military posts that are acceptable to him and he is not satisfied with the cut of his admiral of the fleet uniform that is being prepared for his arrival to the Realm. They expect a full weeks celebrations when their private jet lands in England. Prince Archie of Sussex and Princess Lili of Sussex will not arrive with their parents because they have mumps. The King has cancelled Christmas festivities and is concentrating his every effort to the happy arrival of his darling boy.
OKay said…
@Sandie The link you provide only shows the statement about the one-legged man. But I presume the info "from Deadline" is repeated by BarkJack. I don't know how reliable BarkJack is, but Deadline is not a rag. It provides very reliable industry (show biz) information. But the very idea that TP is willing to risk his career for The Bint...it beggars belief. Something is afoot.
SwampWoman said…
Well, then. I think I would be more likely to get an invitation to Christmas at Balmoral than That One. Actually, everybody here would be more likely to get an invitation because we (mostly) can get through dinner without clawing or insulting anybody. I'd have a little problem with the formal wear, though, so I'd have to regretfully decline. Once I retired (sort of), fussy suits and dresses were the first items I decluttered from the closet. I no longer own nylon hosiery. Comfy clothes and running shoes and boots stayed.

Speaking of the holidays, my stove element decided to spontaneously destroy itself RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING (typical!). The replacement element will arrive the week after Thanksgiving. We were going to get a new stove, but NONE of the local stores have anything in stock except for really high end! (I don't want a really expensive electric stove because I want to get a new gas stove when the lines are all run.) EVERYTHING has to be shipped, nothing is in stock, and none of it will arrive this week. Husband went to a used appliance store; all of their stoves have been sold. HOWEVER, husband was able to get a used heating element, so we shall see. As long as it lasts through the cookies and pies, I'll be happy.

The question is is the history of the reign of king Charles III going to have only one chapter "The Life and Times of the Duke of Sussex"? The sorrowful truth is that he must do SOMETHING about that intellectually totally deficient man. Harry is soon a middle aged failure. No one can ever trust him with anything that requires work. He can't represent his country. There is not a royal family or government in the world that is prepared to receive a visitor who will tell all next day in the newspapers and the royal family can not accept the contempt that the world will try to hide when Harry starts to show up on world stage. For the King there will be only lousy options.
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO there's nothing to be concerned about Crank and Skank. Their options are narrowing, their reputations in tatters, and their money is running out. They will do themselves in, sooner or later. Scabies' book isn't going to do much in damage or sales. Because the damage he's spewing forth is the same old, same old. Now, if there was something really salacious that might be a different story. Crank and Skank have already tried that one, and nothing came of any of it.

@GWAH: Maybe about the jet from TP. It could have been shared like the concert jet. Atlanta is the major immigration airport in the U.S. where passengers must go through customs. TP might not have anything to do with the Turnips, just a coincidence.

Now we're getting the story a week late that Skank's friend and billionaire husband were on the jet to the concert. Yeah, no. No photos, no mention a week ago. Another fake PR item.

If it comes from "sources" or "friends" it's fake news.
Sandie said…
@Okay
Thanks for the info on Deadline. Yes, BarkJack said they got the information from contacts at Deadline rather than from a Deadline article.

I do think that Tyler Perry is still close to and fully supportive of the duo, as are Oprah, Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom, Cameron and Benji, etc. Success in Hollywood and showbiz is not a good judge of intelligence and character. A lot of people do think TBW is intelligent, but she simply fluently sprouts a lot of word salad that sounds impressive. Same with character.

I had a lightbulb moment today when I watched a brief video of young women speaking about the Osama Bin Laden manifesto that has found its way onto the Internet. They all were fluent and articulate and used the rather impressive word 'existential'. I think they are all as thick as two planks, and possibly dangerously so. (I read the manifesto myself ... the first few paragraphs are about stuff that most non-Westerners can agree with without question, but then it races down a religious path that is foreign to me. I am usually very open-minded and curious to explore religion, philosophy, etc., but when it is used to justify and incite violence, I find it very problematic. 9/11 was the result of such a manifesto.)
OKay said…
@Sandie I'd be interested in taking a look at it myself, but I'm very disheartened whenever anyone advocates for violence so perhaps I'd best not...
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

"she (Anne) pointed out that it wasn't (sic) a working monarchy, it was a job, you turn up on time, you do your research, and do the duty. It's all about the project at hand. She also pointed out that whatever charities you are involved in, you needed to get involved and get immersed.”

The text you quoted is a very good job description for the role. No wonder * couldn't hack it. What you see is the tip of the iceberg, there is a lot of preparation and work behind the scenes. * only saw the money, jewellery, expensive clothes and the adulation of the crowds.
I'd say Anne had her number from the off.
Maneki Neko said…
A PR agent "believes that the Duchess of Sussex is being advised 'to send signals out’ that she wants to return to TV and film." He said ‘It's a tactic and again underlines this constant need for recognition and more importantly, connection to fundraising activities’.

This is getting tedious. The world is suffering from Markle fatigue. He is right about this constant need for recognition but it doesn't spark much interest. As for fundraising activities, have there been any?

The whole thing is also irksome and smacks of desperation.
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman OT

What a time for your stove to pack up! Hope you can get your Thanksgiving dinner.
from SMM this evening, courtesy of chouse951, at https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17zrwxf/meghans_most_lasting_legacy_as_a_cautionary_tale/

`I hope the royal family will establish some rules for spouses marrying in.'

There were `rules' but they were waived.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17zxnuz/harry_gets_a_job/

Wow! The latest is that she wants him to build a career as an actor... she has been giving him acting lessons since she met him (because of course he knew nothing about giving a speech or being on public display until she taught him) and is continuing to do so, but is now sending him to professional lessons; she wants him to hang out at trendy places with trendy people; and she wants him to be more fashionable and adventurous in the way he dresses.

Please read the entire article posted at the above link. The level of manipulation and control is more creepy than I thought even she was capable of.
Sandie said…
https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-royal-christmas-invite-for-delusional-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle

The Palace has shut down the chatter around Christmas ... no, they are not invited. Ouch!
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Ever get the feeling you’re not wanted?

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have reportedly not been invited to join the royal family at Christmas this year, with details of the Sussex-free Sandringham guest list appearing just hours after sources described as friends were quoted as saying they would like an invite.

The leaking of the official guest list to ITV.com’s respected royal reporter Chris Ship so soon after the notion of the Sussexes being invited was floated will be seen by many as a clear sign that the palace wanted to shut down speculation around the story. Rubbing salt into the wound, it was also revealed that Prince Andrew, who was forced to stand down from royal life after being accused of sex crimes, is to be hosted at one of the property's most desirable homes, Wood Farm, the former home of Prince Philip.

The king’s office is thought to have been annoyed in recent days by the Sussex camp leaking details of a private phone call made by Harry and his family to the king to congratulate him on his birthday, which had the effect of focusing media attention on personality-driven family drama rather than Charles’ new anti-food-waste project.

If they have been equally unimpressed by the Sussexes testing the water on Christmas in mid-November, it might go some way to explaining the rapid rebuttal.

A friend of Prince William’s told The Daily Beast that William would have been implacably opposed to joining any party for Christmas lunch which included Harry and Meghan.

“The whole idea of them coming for Christmas was typically narcissistic and delusional,” the friend said. “There is no way William or Kate would want them there after what he wrote in his book. Would you want to sit down for a slap-up lunch with someone who had basically called you an asshole in public? It would be a total humiliation. William and Kate are never, ever going to sign up for that, and Charles wouldn’t ask them to.”

Last week, after Omid Scobie said the two brothers were still not speaking to each other, a source told The Daily Beast with remarkable succinctness: “[William] absolutely fucking hates [Harry].”

ITV’s Ship, a well-respected and veteran royal correspondent, wrote on ITV.com that Camilla’s “two children and five grandchildren” would be invited, and that the extra numbers mean the big lunch will now be “served in the larger ballroom of Sandringham House rather than the dining room, as has been the tradition.” ...




@Sandie
Thanks for the link to the Daily Beast article. It brightened my day 😈
Maneki Neko said…
Warning! Might induce nausea

'Prince Harry and Meghan Markle made a surprise visit to a NHL hockey game last night where the Duke of Sussex dropped the first puck - just like the Queen did two decades ago - and then the couple danced to Simple Minds as the goals flew in.

The California-based couple watched the Vancouver Canucks beat the San Jose Sharks 3-1 from a VIP box at the Rogers Arena, at one point watching the action while cuddling and later jumping in the air to cheer a goal.'🤮

Now they're into ice hockey? Which reminds me, wasn't* sh@gging an ice hockey player when she was in Toronto? Markus was in attendance. Apparently, they're in Canada to promote the next Invictus Games (in Vancouver and Whistler in 2025).
Amazing how they can leave those two children and hop on a plane. * has nothing to do with Invictus and should be at home but you can see where her priorities are.
Sandie said…
They are in Canada:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/180a3zu/haz_meg_at_the_canucks_game/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1808h06/oh_look_the_faux_royals_had_to_include_their/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1807t8d/harry_is_in_vancouver_doing_press_for_invictus/
Magatha Mistie said…

Schaden-froide-frau
Load of frappe
Puck off!

Magatha Mistie said…

Up Pops the Weasel

Eyes searching
like a shit house rat
For a camera angle
forget about prat
All eyes on me
as I bob up and down
I’ve a Simple Mind
don’t know I’m a clown…

Magatha Mistie said…

@GWAH
Yes, yellow snow 😜
@Maneki
Fried eggs on a wrinkled
ironing board 😉
@NeutralObserver
No legs, or feet
you missed her mangled claws😳
@WildBoar
Lowest level-yellow snow 😵‍💫

Magatha Mistie said…

Sees and Detest

One day
she’ll go away
Not because
she’s been caught at play
She’ll go away
‘Cos they’ve nowt
left to say
I pray
and hope
WildBoar
sees that day…

Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie,

thanks for all the good tea!
Thank you, Magatha - I'm working on it!(Though goodness knows what the world will be like by then- IT drives me up the wall as it is.
Sandie said…
Off topic warning:

8f anyone is interested in the Bin Laden letter, Glenn talks about it in this video and reads out the first part of the letter.

https://youtu.be/vj1cVzUXktg?si=1Lf0yPc9m-hlo3L0
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@Magatha Mistie
Up Pops The Weasel is brilliant.

By the way, I think it is in a DM article that they point out that the Queen was provided with a red carpet when she watched a hockey game, and hapless was standing there posing and grinning at the cameras like an idiot when one of the finally one of the hockey players told him that he was supposed to let go of the puck.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/180f9dj/never_forget_meghan_markle_allegedly_dated_a/

All the tea about her affair with a hockey player, among others, can be found at the above post. She was married to Trevor at the time but instead of visiting her husband when she had time off, she was chasing a hockey player.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Up Pops the Weasel
Brilliant! I love the first two lines,
'Eyes searching
like a shit house rat'🤣🤣 You've described her so well! Thank you.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie,

I heard that the entire ice hockey team in Toronto had a nickname for her - Mrs Clean. Because of what she did with her tongue. So I doubt that she was after only 1 hockey player.
NeutralObserver said…
@Magatha Mistie, Thank you for your wit & good humor! You give all of us so much fun!
Sandie said…
Off topic ... Catherine wore the Strathmore Rose Tiara for the state banquet. Gorgeous!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12776527/Kate-dazzles-diamonds-Princess-Wales-elegant-glittering-tiara-white-gown-attends-glitzy-State-Banquet-South-Koreas-President-Lady.html
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: Sandie said...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/17zxnuz/harry_gets_a_job/

Wow! The latest is that she wants him to build a career as an actor... she has been giving him acting lessons since she met him (because of course he knew nothing about giving a speech or being on public display until she taught him) and is continuing to do so, but is now sending him to professional lessons; she wants him to hang out at trendy places with trendy people; and she wants him to be more fashionable and adventurous in the way he dresses.


In order to give lessons, one must usually be an expert in the subject matter. That one has *extremely* limited acting skills. IF she ever paid for acting lessons, she should get her money back. As for her expertise in matters regarding how to dress, well, we can see the result of that with our own eyes. I look forward to seeing Harry with plunging necklines and shorts exposing his legs for miles.
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said...
They are in Canada:


It certainly does make one wonder whether there are any children at all. The way they blithely leave them for silly reasons, as well as knowing that what she was doing was physically impossible for a pregnant woman's body does seem to reinforce their absence. (A hockey game? Really? A concert? What are you, 16? You are supposedly leaving small children multiple times per month/week for what again?)
NeutralObserver said…
Palate cleanser: Queen Camilla and the Princess of Wales both look gorgeous in tiaras & gowns at the state dinner for the President of South Korea,

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/princess-wales-dazzles-rarely-seen-212333821.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2x
Maneki Neko said…
I love the Rose Tiara. Catherine has great pose and always looks regal at state banquets.
The DM had lots of pictures of Catherine and William welcoming South Korea's President and First Lady. Catherine was wearing a red outfit that personally I thought looked a bit strange. She showed a lot of leg when alighting from her car. A bit too much, perhaps, but at least her legs are much more shapely than *'s and won't give anyone nightmares.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12774787/prince-william-princess-kate-south-korea-president-king-charles-camilla-banquet.html
Fifi LaRue said…
The thing about Crank being seen at trendy places--the comedian who mocked the Turnip's calling celebrities begging to hang out, and people were talking about this at parties, and showing each other their phones. This same comedian became a little bit angry in the same show, and told Crank to stay out of the Beverly Hills Hotel because he wanted to eat his eggs in peace. Yep, hanging out in trendy places, and trying to schmooze with people while they're eating. I believe it.
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko
I was also taken aback by Catherine's outfit. It was stunning but so unlike what she usually wears. First, that gorgeous coat was voluminous. She usually wears fitted coats. As for the short dress she wore ... she has not worn anything that short since George was born!

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The following thread invites conversation about TBW's weak spot, using Smaug as a comparison. I think the comments are missing something ... TBW, like Smaug, is easily annoyed and shows it (annoyed by being ignored, not getting what she wants, and so on). If we are using Smaug as a metaphor, the weak spot is where a mortal blow can be struck. Keeping that in mind, what is her weak spot? What would finish her off once and for all? (Of course, by 'finish her off', I am not implying any kind of bodily harm or violence.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/180vaw4/what_is_madames_weak_spot/

Just a thought ... the rictus grin seems almost permanent now and I think it is her attempt to hide her character, which loads of people read through her body language.
Sandie said…
“Do you have a favourite holiday tradition?” one reporter asked, prompting Meghan to reply: “Great question. Ah we’re free, now that our little ones are little, and enjoying every moment of it.”

https://archive.ph/2023.11.21-142426/https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/meghan-markle-lets-slip-shes-31490901

What she said is completely meaningless. But this is what she has always been ... insanely thirsty for attention, but with nothing to say or contribute.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1818qv9/meg_copying_everyones_reactions_while_watching_if/

I didn't know the venue where this hockey match was played, but I am not sure that the analysis of this video is correct. Could she see the screen from where she was sitting? Was she perhaps looking up at a scoreboard? However, as always with TBW, it looks like bad acting in a Z-list movie rather than a candid view of someone engrossed in a hockey match, unaware that she is being filmed (or, like royals, ignoring the fact that she is being filmed/photographed).
SwampWoman said…
Apparently she has no family holiday traditions with her children and husband. Poor invisible tots.
SwampWoman said…
Her holiday tradition is probably ordering a turkey salad from room service at whatever hotel she's in at the moment.
Back in the day, when nice gels went to finishing school in Switzerland, it was said that a main feature of the curriculum was how to get in and out of a low sports car without showing one's knickers when in a short skirt or how to cope when hobbled by a tight skirt.

(Answer: Keep knees together, sit down sideways on the seat, then swivel round on your backside to swing legs into position. Reverse to get out.)

Higher vehicles such as carriages and Land Rovers, may well have drop-down steps which can to be climbed up or down. If the occasion demands a forward-facing exit, accept graciously any hand that's offered by any man, be he an aristocrat, gentleman, footman or equerry nearby. See any photos of Diana arriving at the Abbey, dressed as a crumpled meringue,

FWIW, I used to drive a Land Rover, clad usually in trousers, so none of this mattered. I just clambered in and slithered out.

PS Come to think of it, why d'y'think * didn't copy Di's !7thC-style wedding dress a la Henrietta Maria?.
Mel said…
If we are using Smaug as a metaphor, the weak spot is where a mortal blow can be struck. 
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That was my first thought. How can that be used to shut her down?


H's weak spot is being mocked. That we can do.

Mm....her weak spots are ones we as the public don't have much control over, making it harder to use them against her.
Mel said…
They've been free for 4+ years. What's keeping them?
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO the Princess of Wales looked sensational getting out of the car! Fantastic legs!
OKay said…
Oh, I don't know, @Mel. I think everyone solidly ignoring Madame would make her head explode.
Maneki Neko said…
Happy Thanksgiving to our American Nutties
Try this for mockery - and follow the links to buy your own Col. Johnny T shirt etc!

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/181qhl6/hollywoods_famous_kitson_store_takes_aim_at_harry/
Sandie said…
https://archive.li/2023.11.22-183434/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/11/22/inviting-harry-and-meghan-for-christmas-disaster-for-royals/

What an incredible story this would be. According to a national newspaper, an unnamed friend of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex says the couple would “readily accept” an invitation to spend Christmas with the Royal family at Sandringham.
It’s certainly a heartwarming suggestion. For the sake of all concerned, however, we’d better hope that no such invitation is forthcoming – because I fear that the King would soon regret it. As everyone knows, even the happiest of families can end up rowing at Christmas, never mind families that are already at one another’s throats.
And then there’s the risk that the Sussexes would give a tell-all television interview to Oprah Winfrey afterwards. Just imagine…
Oprah: “So you guys spent Christmas with Harry’s folks back in England. You must have been so thrilled when King Charles asked you over.”
Meghan: “We were. Christmas has always been such a special time for me. Santa is actually a really close friend of mine. As a little girl, I was just so humbled by his work as a philanthropist and humanitarian, bringing hope to all the children of the world. And that was a big inspiration for the kind of compassionate global activism I do today.”
Oprah: “That’s so wonderful. And so how did it go with Harry’s family?”
Harry: “It was a complete disaster.”
Oprah: “Oh no. What happened?”
Harry: “It started when I asked William if he’d like to pull a cracker with me. It was my cracker, so he should have let me win. I mean, that’s the rule of cracker-pulling, everyone knows that. But he pulled really hard, so he won. And then he put the paper crown on his head. Like he was trying to really rub it in that he’s going to be king, and I’m only the spare.”
Oprah: “How awful. I can’t believe anyone could be so insensitive.”
Harry: “But that wasn’t all. Inside the cracker was a tiny plastic comb. And just because he won, he insisted on keeping it. Even though he doesn’t need a comb. Whereas I still do. Just about.”
Oprah: “Harry, I’m so sorry that that happened to you. It must have been so traumatic. But Meghan, what about you? Were you able to patch things up with the other royals?”
Meghan: “No. Not after the really upsetting Christmas present they gave me. You won’t believe what it was.”
Oprah: “Go on.”
Meghan: “It was a Barbie princess doll.”
Oprah: “Oh my God. That is so insulting.”
Meghan: “I know. Because I’ve already got the Barbie princess doll. And I’d specifically asked for the Barbie Dreamhouse Playset. It’s just yet more proof that they never listen to me.”
Oprah: “Wow.”
Harry: “Obviously we were both really unhappy, and wanted to leave. But then my dad tried to calm things down by suggesting a nice festive game of charades. So we agreed to stay.”
Oprah: “That must have taken so much strength and courage.”
Harry: “But then William took the first go. He did the sign for a book. Then the sign for ‘title, one word’. And then he started miming someone screaming and wailing and crying their eyes out. I was absolutely furious. ‘Hey!’ I shouted. ‘You’re blatantly doing Spare! My book!’”
Oprah: “Unbelievable.”
Harry: “He looked really puzzled, and said, ‘No I’m not. It’s Misery, by Stephen King.’ But I wasn’t falling for that. So we walked straight out, and caught the first private jet home.”
OCGal said…
I echo Maneki Neko: Happy Thanksgiving to all American Nutties, and on this day I say I am thankful for all the joy, laughter and knowledge our Nutty community has brought me.

Especial thanks go to our moderator Abby, and to our blog hostess with the mostess: Nutty herself.
Maneki Neko said…
H's reply to why they haven't given up their titles.

[However], in an interview with Anderson Cooper on US TV while promoting Spare earlier this year, Harry was directly asked why he and Meghan had not given up their titles - especially given how the pair had railed against their treatment while in the Royal Family. And Harry issued a frank six-word explanation to the question and replied: "And what difference would that make?"

Mr Cooper added: "One of the criticisms that you've received is that okay, fine, you wanna move to California, you wanna step back from the institutional role. "Why be so public? Why reveal conversations you've had with your father or with your brother? You say you tried to do this privately." Harry added: "And every single time I've tried to do it privately there have been briefings and leakings and planting of stories against me and my wife. You know, the family motto is 'never complain, never explain'. But it's just a motto. And it doesn't really hold."


H obviously sees 'his' truth. Now the BRF leaked/planted stories against them. Yes, Harry, we believe you.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-blunt-six-word-31503523
I missed this earlier:
https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2023/11/20/more-grandiose-titles-and-remembrance-week-pr/

Harrymarkle still doesn't quite get it about KIII's approach to the problem of the titles, it seems to me,
Maneki Neko said…
We all know it but I hope * reads this article in the DM.

'Meghan was a 24-carat celebrity when she was a member of the British Royals, writes RICHARD EDEN. Now she looks more like the 'wannabe starlet' she was before
...
It is all rather different from her brief time as a working royal, he writes – a time when the stars would line up to meet her, not the other way rou

‘Has there been any week in which it was demonstrated more vividly what the Duke and Duchess of Sussex threw away when they quit royal duties in 2020 to “find freedom” and find a fortune?’
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Indeed.

Richard Eden writes about * 'Meghan couldn't have looked less regal as she appeared at the Variety Power of Women event'. Remember that long beige dress showing her flat chest?

Yes, they threw it all away.
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