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Open post: The Sussex lawsuit

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are suing the Mail on Sunday.

What do you think about the suit? https://sussexofficial.uk/

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Nutty Flavor said…
Google Blogger gets a bit fussy after 200 comments, so I have created a new thread - Open Post 2: The Sussex Lawsuit.
Miggy said…
Piers Morgan article.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7528951/PIERS-MORGAN-Harry-Meghan-brought-negative-press-yourselves.html
NeutralObserver said…
I love this blog, so many intelligent, well informed commenters! I feel as though we're like college profs grading essays written by our lazy students after a hard weekend of snorting & drinking, in our efforts to understand Megs & what's his name.

Has anyone seen an actual copy of the lawsuit filed? Come on, if the US press could get copies of Mueller's affidavits, surely the British press could lay hands on one if it exists. I'm with Veema (an actual lawyer) on this. Until we see the court papers, this is just blowing smoke. We've all noted that the overwrought language sounds like Megs, not Harry. The whole statement sounds like a disorganized hissy fit. Megs has a bullying history of her own, she doxxes anyone she can. Competent lawyers cost the earth. Who's ponying up for this 'lawsuit?' I doubt if it's the RF.
LunaP said…
First time poster, found this wonderful blog where MM censorship hasn't yet reached and I love the astute commentary here where criticism can't be pigeonholed as racism (I am a mixed race woman and that argument is so offensively ludicrous)! So thank you Nutty and all posters here.

Awkward timing does make it likely they're trying to head something off at the pass. Can't wait to find out what it is.

I completely agree with other commentators here that the negativity is largely made by DM readers and not in the articles (people aren't stupid or restrained by journalistic rules) .

I'd go further though, i think she actually gets off so light with the press for how transparently odious her behaviour is.

The British press could be so much less gracious, especially within likely confines of an existing superinjunction about Rachel's yachting days, where banished friends of Harry's like Tom Inskip crossed paths with her and tried to warn him. Just like the justifiable press about her woke hypocrisy and high spending ways, MM pushed Harry to blind himself to fact and declare it lies.

Most who had such morally questionable pasts would thank whatever deity that there are saccharine, diabetes-inducing articles trying to be positive about her in the DM at all and I hope her suit destroys that good will.

If she were smart she'd be grateful and keep quiet, but her narcissism won't allow her to. I keep thinking how much more rope does she need and dear LORD I hope this is the breaking point with the press. But it seemingly never comes and it's hard to hold one's breath.

Whether the case is won or lost, this it is a win for Meghan. If she loses, she will use it as evidence to Harry that the move to LA is necessary, like she wanted all along, as she is so unfairly maligned in the UK (*little violin plays*).

She is alienating him from his family, his friends, his country and himself. The shame of it all is when it falls apart MM will have done irreparable damage to Harry, who will have been manipulated into letting his name be used to call the public too many names to be taken back into hearts of many.

With people like MM you are with her or against her, a cowardly "silent witness" to her faux-victimhood or declaring War on her perceived injustices.
I’ve just listened to a radio programme here on BBC 2. There was a legal person and Ingrid Stewart (who’s the editor of Majesty magazine, she’s also written many books on the royals) talking.

The legal person said, Thomas Markle owns the letter and can show it to who he wants, but Meghan owns the words (the copyright) and they (the words) can’t be published. However, they both stated if Harry had just mentioned about the letter etc., in his statement, he’d have a case, a far better one overall. But bringing up all the other stuff could go against them, in a far bigger way regarding his and Meghan’s relationship with the press as a whole.
Jen said…
This lawsuit is ridiculous. As many here have said, she allowed her friends access to the letter, and allowed them to "quote" the letter in a People article. I think that alone may hurt her case more than anything else. Considering her friends also quoted her father's letter, maybe he should sue her for providing them access to HIS letter? What about HIS privacy? It will certainly be interesting to see what comes of this. I disagree wholeheartedly that the Queen and Charles are "approving" as this is not something they would be so public about. As previously noted, there have been other lawsuits against the DM and no outward "condemnation" letter was released stating their personal opinions on the media's treatment. This is all on H&M because they just do not care what the BRF thinks, it's all about them and their feelings.

Sadly, bullying is now being overused and much like her cries of racism, it's beginning to lose all meaning. I do not see her treatment by the media, or any of us, as bullying. Her actions and behavior have created this backlash from everyone, so she has only herself to blame. It would be bullying if she were doing nothing wrong and yet received such hatred in return.....much like the treatment Kate received since she married William. Where was Harry when his sister-in-law was receiving such vitriolic press? I didn't see him writing letters about her treatment.

They MAY win this lawsuit, but they've lost all positive press they received from this tour. As many on here have stated, I would also be on board with an EMBARGO on any future press on them. Leave them alone. That's all they want, so let's give it to them.
SwampWoman said…
@Veena Ya but they have some grounds. That whole surrogacy thing moon bump fake baby was so unnecessary. The public did not play fair.

Oh, my, I should like to politely rebut that. Where to start, where to start...okay, making one foamy mocha latte with a little cayenne pepper mixed in will be a good starting point for me. Aaaaaah. Morning suddenly became much better.

Okay, that entire pregnancy bump thing was a major annoyance. Of COURSE people were going to comment on it. They weren't blind. If anything, I thought the papers were far too reticent about the changing bump size, the shifting location, how it sometimes looked just like a pillow, how it would fold when she sat, how she would CONSTANTLY draw attention to it by cradling it, pulling her jacket aside so it could be photographed, etc. I've never seen crazy like that before in my life. That bump debacle was completely self-created on her part. That "bump" was going to be in line for the throne IF she were actually carrying him. The public has every right to question an ever-changing bump because if she isn't carrying him, he's not a rightful heir. It seems to me that that would be important to the UK citizens.

I also thought that the press was doing an over-the-top job of protecting her image by mostly NOT showing the messy, unfitted, unhemmed garments (that allegedly cost the British public lots of money) that she was wearing for public appearances. The British public were/are paying for those garments and her appearances (unless it is true that she has been cut off the public teat).






I’ve just listened to a radio programme here on BBC 2. There was a legal representative and Ingrid Steward (who’s the editor of Majesty magazine, she’s also written many books on the royals) talking.

The legal representative said, Thomas Markle owns the letter and can show it to who he wants, but Meghan owns the words (the copyright) and they (the words) can’t be published. However, they both stated if Harry had just mentioned about the letter etc., in his statement, he’d have a case, a far better one overall. But bringing up all the other stuff could go against them, in a far bigger way regarding his and Meghan’s relationship with the press as a whole.

My take on what was said and being said by a lot of others (legal and press) is that The Sussex’s need the media on their side. Harry has taken a grenade against all of the press, instead of just keeping it about publishing parts of Meghan’s letter.
Sorry for duplication, I could t see my first comment, and I can’t delete the first comment. It’s really hard to comment and edit by phone.
LavenderToast said…
I think this explains the unusual celebrities (such as Ellen D and Gayle King) and political figures (such as Hilary C. and Michelle Obama) saying the press is unfair and mean to Meghan. Many of us have wondered why this diverse group has come to Meghan's defense. It appears maybe they were pawns in laying the groundwork for this bizarre lawsuit.
Anonymous said…
@Gabeshuman: I too hope the DM doesn’t settle out of court.

Looks like the Dumbartons and MoS (different legal entity from DM, as it turns out) already failed to settle out of court, so MoS must believe they've a solid enough case to either win or settle for much less than The Claw tried to win in this legal smash-and-grab.
HappyDays said…
@Nelo: Just because HM and Charles are aware of the suit and allowing it to go forward doesn’t necessarily mean they approve. It could be just be a case of them knowing H&M (mostly Meghan) are determined to sue, even if it further tarnishes their public image. You have to let your kids learn from their mistakes, even if they are adults. It could also be a part of some sort of long-term strategy by the palace. Because Meghan is a narcissist, she likely holds grudges forever. She would look incredibly bad suing her dad fir releasing the letter, so she’s going to the next alternative, the UK media. I wonder id she will go after People magazine in court. I’m guessing not.

What’s disturbing about this is that Meghan is playing on Harry’s emotions from his mother’s death by gouging open any healing that may have taken place for Harry in the years since she died. As a young boy, Harry couldn’t save Diana. I the inability to protect his mother is likely a key part of Harry’s wounds and anger issues.

Meghan is cruelly reopening his wounds to the fullest by playing damsel in distress so Harry can rescue and protect the fragile little Flower Meghan as a substitute for his mother. Meghan knows it is a weakness, so she exploits it to the hilt for herself.
Lady Luvgood said…
IMO Camilla’s PR reputation overhaul worked because she is a nice woman.
I will never forgive her for causing Diana so much suffering, but as the years have passed, I have seen the good qualities she possesses and her kindness with children and elderly.
Evey Christmas she invites special needs children to Clarence House to decorate thier tree, and easily and happily interacts and entertains a large group of them.
It is not fake and she has a genuine goodness, that Smeggy can only try to copy, but because of her emptiness will never succeed.
poorme said…
To all those who still say we are bullying her: say you are a teacher. You have taught this class for many years. Everyone knows you have very clearly defined rules and expectations for your class. A student comes in on day one, sucking up to you. For a few weeks, this student seems to be fine, but suddenly you realize that this student is doing everything she can to undermine you, your students, and your rules. She demands the room be rearranged because she doesn't like her seat. She plagiarizes her work and then pretends like she doesn't know how that happened. She causes fights, sometimes resulting in tears, between her classmates and then claims she was never involved. She tells others that they shouldn't have sweets, but then eats those selfsame sweets in front of them. She lies about everything and protests when you reprimand her. Do you consider punishing this student bullying, or do you consider it holding her accountable for breaking the rules that she was well aware of?
punkinseed said…
Megs is doing a preemptive pincer move with this lawsuit.
I say preemptive because she wants to distract and deflect the H&R baby clothes ad and marching at the poor murdered girl's memorial.
Next is because Samantha is about to publish her book and after Meg's not letting Tom Markle see Archie, he's had enough and has given Sam his blessing. Meg's announced the lawsuit to distract before wheels down in UK. It also gives the Sussex' an excuse to escape into their bubble when they get back from SA. That way they won't have to do any public royal outings because you know, safety and security... unless of course she wants to merch more of Archie. Then it will all be "secret" and "surprise!"
Megs' behavior is a lot like the Scandal character Olivia Pope. She has to rule over others; she has to be the commander.
I am a first-time poster but long-time reader. I am starting to believe that the strategy us to just keep pelting the public with mire and mire articles and outrageous PR, and now this lawsuit, is all an attempt to instill extreme HM fatigue in the opposers so they will just get tired and stop protesting when they see things continuing to spiral downwards. I read so many here say they are just tired of reading about it, and I feel the same way.
d.c. said…
@SwampWoman,
Okay, that entire pregnancy bump thing was a major annoyance. Of COURSE people were going to comment on it. They weren't blind. If anything, I thought the papers were far too reticent about the changing bump size, the shifting location, how it sometimes looked just like a pillow, how it would fold when she sat, how she would CONSTANTLY draw attention to it by cradling it, pulling her jacket aside so it could be photographed, etc. I've never seen crazy like that before in my life. That bump debacle was completely self-created on her part. That "bump" was going to be in line for the throne IF she were actually carrying him. The public has every right to question an ever-changing bump because if she isn't carrying him, he's not a rightful heir. It seems to me that that would be important to the UK citizens.

oh my, hells yes! @SwampWoman, I truly love your response ❤️.


I also thought that the press was doing an over-the-top job of protecting her image by mostly NOT showing the messy, unfitted, unhemmed garments (that allegedly cost the British public lots of money) that she was wearing for public appearances. The British public were/are paying for those garments and her appearances (unless it is true that she has been cut off the public teat).

Agreed.

ok ok, onto the next Nutty post. :)
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