Two hundred and twenty four years after George Washington made his 1796 Farewell Address, it is still remembered as an example of great statesmanship and a noble farewell to a lifetime of service.
Harry, Duke of Sussex, made his farewell speech to the British people yesterday evening. As the Spectator UK put it, "the Captain General of the Royal Marines is resigning his post in order to spend more time on Instagram."
What do you think of Harry's farewell address? How will it be remembered?
What do you think Harry and Boris Johnson had to say to one another?
What about Harry and William?
Harry, Duke of Sussex, made his farewell speech to the British people yesterday evening. As the Spectator UK put it, "the Captain General of the Royal Marines is resigning his post in order to spend more time on Instagram."
What do you think of Harry's farewell address? How will it be remembered?
Last-minute conversations
Harry had two significant meetings before his departure to Canada.What do you think Harry and Boris Johnson had to say to one another?
What about Harry and William?
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Blogger Nutty Flavor said...
They're using the excuse Harry needs RPO protection because he was in Afghanistan, that he is a "target" and needs protection. Tell that to the other thousands of men and women who served their country over there and don't get RPOs or protection of any kind.
That's not quite fair. Targeting Harry has a symbolic value that targeting an ordinary soldier would not.
Indeed. If they can get a member of the royal family, they can get anybody would be the message.
I agree. This has her fingerprints all over it. Remember her complaint that she was being targeted when we didn't even know who she was? I read in several places that the police knew nothing about that. That was the first massive red flag for Harry get the hell away. Just think of all that has happened since then. She's dragged our country and royal family through the mire and wasted MILLIONS. And still it goes on.
One thing comforts me. With the friends Meghan has she doesn't need enemies. That stuff about her being royal no matter what. Keep digging.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7909549/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Proof-William-Kate-Middleton-charge-world-without-Harry.html?fbclid=IwAR3Wy_n1V-9AvgBksf31nvaWZyYZPDTyXvyokvXHdT4KIH8aW8yvR5fuinU
That must be a hard Jan at the Sussex's and how irrelevant they are. Lmao
I think we can all agree that guarding Harry is totally fine if he or his royal granny or daddy pay for it out of their own pockets (for instance from the Duchy of Lancaster or from other bits that go directly into Queen's pockets).
What infuriates me is people in UK die and get assaulted because of the shortage of police on streets and yet police has to spend millions guarding the royal leeches in Canada. The more they spend on Hazmeg the less is left to protect people like us.
If Harry and others want to play the Afghanistan card, then he should have stayed where he can be reasonably protected. This is not reasonable, by any criteria. It is not reasonable to have British RPOs living in another country for extended periods, either for their personal lives or our pockets. It is not reasonable to pursue entirely their own interests while expecting us to pay ANYTHING.
@Yashar really is an influencer - he has 500,000 followers on Twitter, including many important politicians, and he Tweets all day about news, politics, the environment, etc.
He's also a gay Iranian-American who is a Roman Catholic, not the usual #SussexSquad follower.
So yesterday he posts Meg's dog-walking photo and, being a childless man, doesn't get that there's anything wrong with the way Meg is holding Archie like a sack of potatoes.
When someone tries to tell him otherwise, he responds, "Ahh...I see the mom shamers are out in full force in response to the tweet above. Yes, your mean replies are going to really help her...she's going to see all of them and immediately do what you suggest. SMH"
17 thousand bots have shown up to "like" his post and back him up.
It's really something. I have no idea why he is doing this. The only thing I can guess is that someone at his talent agency, UTA, got to him with a sob story about Meg and he's running with it.
Oh, BTW, I finally got a chance to listen to the rest of Enty's Sussex podcast for this weekend. Even though his inside source told him that the William-Rose rumor was nonsense, Enty says they're just being loyal to the crown and he believes the rumor.
He then confirms that the rumor was brought to him from someone on Meg's team. To paraphrase Enty, "you could say that Meg was sharing the rumor because it was true or sharing it even though it was false. I think it's true. But it definitely came from Meghan's side."
Sounds like someone from "Meghan's side" is talking in Yashar's ear too. It's smart, because he really is influential.
Response: That's not quite fair. Targeting Harry has a symbolic value that targeting an ordinary soldier would not.
Yeah, I'm not buying it. He didn't have a heroic role. He was just there. But it is a very, very good excuse to offload the monetary burden on others.
If you are going to send your royal into battle, then understand what a freaking burden it is to the peons in the aftermath. Also, other royals have served in the military for yea.....forever. They did not get that kind of protection. Andrew fought in the Falklands. So why is Harry so special?
I'll tell you why. Because the BRF and Harry say so. So precious. He is nothing special but there ya go- he will keep being special because he and the BRF are cheap and venal and that's the real bottom line for this justification. And the BRF and Harry have the PR to prove it. If he loses the HRH they elevate him in other ways.
He may be losing his HRH but damn, he is so f'ing special, a hero, look at those medals. Pay for his security peons, he flew a helicopter (which BTW, does not make him dim as everyone seems to assert). The BRF will find ANY reason to offload the burden on us all all over the freaking Commonwealth. This will not stop for as long as he is alive as long as we buy this justification. He is a freaking millionaire, yet lives on welfare.
People don't get that the BRF is not on the side of us peons. They want to maintain control. They are not our friends when it comes down to us or them.
@ Ava: I also read that the police did not know against the MM security issue when she and Harry were dating. Wasn't there also a story about her receiving an envelope with white powder in it? In addition to this, remember the stroll up and down in front of the Daily Mail offices? She was finally photographed then, but all appearances seem to show someone who went out of their way to walk past a tabloid downtown while wearing out-of-place country clothing.
She does that on the regular, and so does Doria. Amazing.
My country probably has the highest HIV infection in the world and the highest new infections on the world (especially among young women). HIV/AIDS has become manageable and has become like living with diabetes or tuberculous (the latter more serious as the new strains of TB are drugs resistant).
Plus, a vaccine is on the verge of being operational.
Groundbreaking perhaps to align yourself with a vaccine campaign and/or a renewed campaign to try to raise awareness and change of behaviour. But, in my country, HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence so any campaigns to try to change behaviour to stop the spread of the condition are useless. People dying of AIDS are few and far between; people living with HIV healthily and happily, and even successfully having children, are increasing.
I agree with those who point out that people are being stabbed to death on the streets of London so the optics of spending millions on guarding the personal safety and well-being of the Sussexes are not good. Compared with the average person, Harry is very wealthy and can well afford to provide for security for him and his family.
Megsy is going for broke so expect the noise to escalate ... trashing Harry's family (Megsy aint a family person so she does not value or respect his family in any way); the speculation about what they are doing to escalate (as long as they are talking about us); the confusion to escalate (narcs thrive in chaos because it gives them more opportunity to dominate and control).
This is the prologue ... the drama has just begun, and Megsy does not care who she destroys in the process, or how, and Harry is so captured that he is going to go along with everything until she dumps him.
Sure, and that's why it's a good idea to "pen the Royals in" in places like the Kensington Palace Compound and St. James' Palace.
The fewer places that need elaborate security measures, the better.
That is interesting. Yashar may be an influencer but Harry Markle's blog has nearly 13 million hits. Your own blog also accumulates a lot of hits I would think.
My former boss who is very well connected told me Harry Markle is very well connected too. Don't know how he knows this but still.
Markle is incredibly divisive and while she is visible she will continue the war with UK, royals and US republicans. It will not change. And she will sill continue making massive mistakes, and I hope to read many more of your posts in months to come.
An editorial from the Los Angles Times. The media opinion is truign against them.
Part 1
The message from Buckingham Palace to Queen Elizabeth’s grandson, Prince Harry, and his wife, Meghan Markle, was clear: You’re in or you’re out. There is no part-time work for royals. Harry and Meghan chose out.
That’s kind of sad. And surprising. What — they couldn’t all work this out?
I get it that, barely two years into a marriage that was supposed to signal a breathtaking infusion of modernity into the British royal family, the couple was sick of the tabloid coverage. But not all the news coverage of them has been bad. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be the international celebrities that they are.
I would have advised Meghan to return to England after her and Harry’s extravagantly long Christmas break in Vancouver and give it another go, for a year. Then reassess. Instead, they came back, dropped the bombshell that they wanted to work part time as royals and spend half the year outside Britain. And Meghan immediately returned to Canada — which she obviously knew she was going to do, because she left their baby, Archie, there (with a nanny and a close friend).
But once they did announce they wanted to be royals on their own schedule (what my colleague, Patt Morrison, called having their “royal gateau” and eating it, too), why couldn’t the palace figure out a way to do that? It can’t be that they just don’t want someone doing the job of opening hospitals and visiting community centers part time. It’s not like the palace is going to hire someone else to replace them.
The queen’s statement was like a heartbreaking farewell:
“Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family,” she said. She concluded, “It is my whole family’s hope that today’s agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life.”
However, the palace has made it clear that they can’t represent the queen and keep their status and titles while they promote or advocate for whatever they choose.
So they are giving up the use of their titles as royal highnesses (something they, reportedly, did want to keep), but they still get to call themselves the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. And Harry will give up his honorary military appointments. His work in the military and on behalf of the military has meant a lot to him, so that’s got to feel like a big loss. They will no longer be supported by public funds. That makes sense. And the couple is paying back the $3 million in public funds they spent to refurbish Frogmore Cottage, the house on the grounds of Windsor Castle that the queen gave them. They get to keep the crib, by the way.
So how will they make a living? That’s been the multimillion-dollar question from the start of all this. They will continue to be supported by Harry’s father, Prince Charles, possibly through his Duchy of Cornwall hereditary estate. Considering however many millions they have on their own (from Meghan’s career or, perhaps, from whatever inheritance Harry got from his late mother, Diana) and the millions that Charles has given them, these kids are not going to live paycheck to paycheck. But if they do want to make money on their own — as they have said they do — they are going to have to find something more profitable than licensing their pictures on mugs (although I would certainly buy a bunch) or something classier than sitting on the board of some controversial drug company. Where on that spectrum Meghan returning to acting or doing voice-over work fits remains to be seen. According to a statement from Buckingham Palace, the Sussexes “have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.”
They will still advocate for the charities and the nonprofit groups they have been involved in.
Believe it or not, all this would be easier if Harry and Meghan truly renounced all the privileges and royal connections and said to his folks, “We want to work for nonprofits in Canada and Africa and live in a townhouse in Toronto, and we’ll see you at Christmas.” But that’s not what they seem to want. Ideally, they want to leverage the royal family brand and prestige for only the causes they choose on their own schedule — and live really well while they’re doing it. Who could blame them? That sounds good to me too.
But doing that is inextricably tied to being a working member of a publicly financed high-profile organization that owes the public something in return — high-visibility public appearances, in particular.
It will be fascinating to see how Harry and Meghan chart this new course. And here is one thing that neither the royal family nor the couple can escape: Harry is still a member of the royal family, sixth in line to the throne. He’s not disowning his family.
No matter what they do, we are all still interested in them. My guess is they’re counting on that.
@Miggy
The article in the DM about Prince Charles' multi-million pound inheritances from King George VI and the Queen Mother was the last straw for me.
All that wealth - yet they expect tax payers to foot security bills for the Harkles.
A. Men. Sister! A lot of people don't get that they are rolling in filthy lucre but they keep gaslighting us in the UK and Commonwealth (the only countries that matter) to support them. Why did these two losers not bugger off to the US?
1. Security might be their personal problem
2. Royals/Shmoyals.
They're counting on the *Commonwealth* to keep them afloat in luxury and forelock tugging. That's also why I suspect that they retain the Pres and VP of the Commonwealth Foundation (or whatever it's called). Because in these positions with 40 or so countries, the world is their free luxury vacay oyster. They view the Commonwealth as easy pickings, Just. Like. Canada.
Wasn't Harry a top name on the Taliban hit-list when he was serving in Afghanistan? Could he still be someone that is seen as a potential target, and MM releasing through Paps their location out him (as well as her and the baby doll known as Archie) in far more danger?
What infuriates me is people in UK die and get assaulted because of the shortage of police on streets and yet police has to spend millions guarding the royal leeches in Canada. The more they spend on Hazmeg the less is left to protect people like us.
Considering that you know that you won't and can't be protected by police, what can/do you do to legally protect yourselves? Are video surveillance and safe rooms in widespread use there? Do you use gardening of thorned plants as a security measure (roses under windows, for example)?
Are we? Things are still in the early stages with these two and I am rapidly losing interest. There are lots of aspects about their royal departure that do hold my interest, just not them. They're repugnant lol
Sure, and that's why it's a good idea to "pen the Royals in" in places like the Kensington Palace Compound and St. James' Palace.
Yes. Security is manageable in the UK, especially around royal residences. These greedy buggers feel entitled to not care about the cost wherever they are in the world by calling themselves global ambassadors *even if they will be/ are no longer royal*. Their sense of supreme entitlement is the real issue. And they are totally enabled by the BRF who IMO will continue to finesse good stuff for Harry.
I'm wondering if it was a tactic by Meghan, through puppet Harry, to shut down media interest when she was in the process of hooking Harry. If I was her, I wouldn't want journalists sniffing around my past. This could equally apply to now. Meghan's personal appetite for publicity is obviously undiminished, but she wants anodyne, unquestioning 'Hello' publicity. She wants a selective press scarer. as before.
Anyway, here's a blast from the past, just to remind us how long this has been going on ...
>>>> Meghan Markle has complained about press intrusion into her private life in a letter addressed to a British media regulator.
Representatives of the 35-year-old actress, who is the girlfriend of Prince Harry, said Markle has been subject to harassment from journalists abroad and is worried about articles being published about her in the UK media.
It comes after Prince Harry condemned the paparazzi for subjecting Markle to a “wave of abuse and harassment” via an extraordinary statement released by Kensington Palace.
The Palace attacked the “racial undertones” of media coverage of Markle, best known for her role in Suits, and said the 32-year-old Prince feared for her safety. The actress, whose father is white and mother is African American, has described herself as biracial and “half black and half white” on her website.
The statement said the Prince rarely undertook formal action over “fictional stories” but the past week had seen “a line crossed”.
“Some of this has been very public,” the statement said. “The smear on the front page of a national newspaper; the racial undertones of comment pieces; and the outright sexism and racism of social media trolls and web article comments.”
“Some of it has been hidden from the public - the nightly legal battles to keep defamatory stories out of papers; her mother having to struggle past photographers in order to get to her front door; the attempts of reporters and photographers to gain illegal entry to her home and the calls to police that followed; the substantial bribes offered by papers to her ex-boyfriend; the bombardment of nearly every friend, co-worker, and loved one in her life.”
The statement confirmed for the first time that Markle, who lives in Toronto, and Prince Harry are in a relationship. The Palace also said Prince Harry was profoundly "disappointed" he had not been able to protect her from press intrusion.
“It is not right that a few months into a relationship with him that Ms Markle should be subjected to such a storm,” it said. <<<<<<<<
Not much really. We can plant prickly bushes, we can install alarms, we have things like neighborhood watch. Police gave us liquid called "smart water" which, if sprayed on our things leaves indestructible trace and thus supposedly makes out stuff of no use for robbers. But we can't protect ourselves against assault on streets or violent burglaries. The latest knife crime epidemic in London is horrendous. A lot of it gang wars but ordinary people die too.
We live out in the country in a small hamlet in the woods and I would feel a heck of a lot more comfortable with a gun in my house but I can't legally get it.
Nutty, I think it's just an excuse. He was protected while he was there, and reports are that he wasn't much of a soldier. If he feels he needs RPO protection, maybe he should have stayed with his family which provided all of the protection he needed.
Yes. He was coddled, protected. He was never in danger, IMO. But it was good PR. He doesn't deserve much attention as a military guy because he never had to fear to put his life on the line. That was never going to happen. He was babied.
The tarot readers who have seen happily ever after for the Sussexes have been proved wrong in every prediction they have made so far.
If the Sussexes do stay together (we have free choice), it will not be a happy ever after story. They won't stay together. Megsy is going to dump Harry.
My personal experience of using free choice to defy what tarot readings predicted about a relationship did not end well and most of the damage to me has been irreversible. We should not let tarot (or any other divination methods) dictate how we live our lives, but if everything indicates that certain choices are going to end in harmful disaster and we ignore that and continue along that path, we are heading for harmful disaster.
Megsy will move on. It is what she does and she is not going to change. She is rapidly burning bridges behind her. Harry is not useful to her on this new path. Can he ensure huge funding from the BRF via Charles? Tick for temporary. Cross for long term. Can he ensure free VIP protection? Tick for temporary. Cross for long term. Can he give her a criticism free platform to promote herself? Tick for temporary (questionable). Cross for long term. Can he provide for an elite lifestyle? Tick for temporary. Cross for long term. (He has no means for earning at he level of billionaire and does not have enough personal wealth to provide for her at that level.)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1230831/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Canada-Duke-Duchess-Sussex-royal-Family-latest
MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry may “destabilise the Canadian system” with their unprecedented permanent stay according to one royal expert. [...]
Royal commentator Richard Berthelsen argued the Sussexes could “destabilise the Canadian system” as people are not yet sure how the couple will operate.
He added public opinion was shifting as more speculation begins to arise on the responsibility and cost of security.
During an interview on Sky News, Mr Berthelsen said: “I think it has been a really big issue for people in Canada.
This blog looks so nice with all your avatars, I have decided to have a go myself. I won't know until this post appears as to whether I've got it right - I'm a bit of a Luddite but I persevere till I've succeeded (unlike MM).
My one worry is that someone else has the same picture. If this turns out to be the case, please let me know and I shall immediately change it.
@Fairy Crocodile
Not much really. We can plant prickly bushes, we can install alarms, we have things like neighborhood watch. Police gave us liquid called "smart water" which, if sprayed on our things leaves indestructible trace and thus supposedly makes out stuff of no use for robbers. But we can't protect ourselves against assault on streets or violent burglaries. The latest knife crime epidemic in London is horrendous. A lot of it gang wars but ordinary people die too.
What you don't have is the woman/manpower to protect your communities because it's being siphoned off to protect these wastes of space. I can relate.
I find the thorned rose suggestions so offensive and condescending I am speechless.
It's a rough world out there while so many of us treat a title as better than us.
Not exactly. I remember reporting here about a tarot reader who said Royals would be shaken badly and if they survived intact for Christmas that would be a Christmas miracle. This gave me pause when shortly afterwards we had Andrew bombshell and Harkle's manifesto.
And I don't even believe in tarot.
Does Megsy even know what the values of her majesty are, or the deep history that informs those values, or the people that inform those values?
Nope this is more meaningless word salad from her because she wants:
1. Free 24/7 VIP protection.
2. Subsidy for her elite lifestyle ... for now, a gratuity from Prince Charles (but gosh, she is jeopardising this by dissing him via friends)..
3. Free attention to support a merching/influencer lifestyle (she will milk the royal connection and desperately hang on to it).
4. The uncritical freedom to control the narrative, for present opportunities that she pursues and for history.
They also seem to be trying to fan public demand that the taxpayers of Canada & the UK pay for their security. That might work in the US, we're more hotheaded than you Brits & Canucks, & I know you Brits & Canucks think that. It's true. We love a big crazy throw down. The problem with this plan, is that the Brits & the Canucks, the ones who would be paying for said protection, might have a cooler reaction to footing the bill for the Harkles. Maybe Charles can be Mau-Maued into ponying up. If he feels his pending monarchy threatened, he might not be very happy to do so.
(*Mau-Mauing is a term invented by the late author, Tom Wolfe.)
I wonder where Megs is getting the moolah to pay for the pr blitz, the paps, etc. Is the alleged 'Russian oligarch' ponying up on spec? Cash for future unspecified favors? Who knows? If I were MI-6, the Harkles would be the perfect mugs to pass on disinformation to those who might be considered adversarial. They wouldn't know they're being used, too untrustworthy, & likely to blab, but perfect to act as stooges to lead others astray. Fun to think about.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7907923/The-hotspots-Meghan-Markle-able-enjoy-new-life.html
And I don't even believe in tarot.'
Thanks for this. Tarot is only useful if we always test our relationship with it (interpretations) and test the boundaries of free will.
You would be amazed how many people (like myself) consult the tarot and then ignore what is revealed and pursue a destructive path even though due warning was given.
Megsy and Harry do not have a happy ever after together path ahead of them (if they defy this they will have a toxic and destructive life together ... there is nothing to indicate that they can heal and be good together). As a couple, they are toxic and destructive. Tarot readings (the reliable ones) indicate that Megsy will come out of this marriage ok; that Harry will be devastated and will run away and hide but that he can recover and go on to live a happy life with a new partner; that Archie will always have a relationship with a narcissistic mother but will spend most of his time with his father; that Harry will not only reconcile fully with his family (after years) but will also apologise to the British people.
These are predictions way before the Megxig drama (many months before).
If we were interested in them we wouldn't be blogging about them. Interest doesn't mean approval. Most of the comments I've seen have not been in their favor or voiced approval for their antics.
Our Republic has not turned out. At least the Queen cares for Her subjects.
I cannot speak of it at length here because to do so would break the rules. So I will leave it at that.
She set him up from the start and played him, and the victim/racist thing was her ‘game’ with the press. I remember reading it and thinking I didn’t even know he had a girlfriend let alone who she was, so why the statement that rambled on and on like no other ever released? 😳It didn’t make sense why he was so whipped up and angry. It came out of nowhere right from the beginning 🤔
Wow. I have no reason to disagree because I personally met people who could look at a coffee cup and say things nobody could ever know. The Bible is full of descriptions of people with a special sight, so if they were present in David's time why can't they be present today?
Tarot may be a tool for talented seers.
.... And thanks to whichever nuttier mentioned Peter Phillips flogging milk in China. He clearly didn't think it through - milk with all the associations that word has when used as a verb. And this is the template for those not in direct line to the throne.
Oh, in the 60s and 70s lots of American celebs endorsed things overseas, Japan for example, where the vast majority of their fans would never see the ad (written into the contract not to run ad outside the country) and call them a sellout. I seem to remember Paul Newman endorsed coffee in Japan? They were rarely called out on it by US media. Do it discreetly, not right in everyone's face.
So sparkles is once again threatening legal action - the general reaction is hilarity - considering she was smiling and posing to the camera. I think her actual complaint is how much she is being ripped apart for how she is holding the "child". She is in for a rude awakening - you just cannot say you separate from the royal family and still expect the same protections. Her sheer gall is unbelievable.
They are so litigation happy.
@Pi. Greedy buggers indeed. Our police forces are already under strain as it is, esp in London.
I can only recall two, the BBC presenter who compared Archie to a chimpanzee and was fired and possibly the "Straight of Compton" headline.
The tabloids are brutal but everyone is fair game.
>>>There is no happy future for Harry nor Archie if they stay together.<<<
That is most certainly true. If Archie were (is) a real baby, then we have a very public display of maternal cluelessness which should deeply concern Children's Protective Services. Britney Spears got excoriated for driving with one of her toddlers on her lap, in public opinion, and I think CPS looked into it. That was around the time that Britney was having her really bad summer, culminating in the shaving her head incident which led to psychiatric commitment and the ongoing conservatorship of her father. I'm glad that Brit was able to get help but scuttlebutt around the case says that though she has improved enough to be able to work again, it is unlikely she will ever gain full control over her own business affairs again due to the instability of her emotional state.
Something like that may be in Harry's future. Rachel's? Her psychopathy is much more calculated and cold-blooded. I could easily imagine her hurting a baby or animals. I really don't care one iota what scams the Narkles pull now, but I do want it sorted to my satisfaction whether Meg is the mother of a vulnerable child. The Queen's willingness to let "Harry's family" go without any stipulations as to Archie give me some hope that the BRF knows the baby is safe.
>>>She actually holds all the cards and is at the height of her power.
I don't think this is true. The stunt in the 'park', followed swiftly by another lawsuit is a **pathetic** bid for attention. Shouldn't she be busy brokering deals with Oprah, Disney, et. al for her great post-HRH career? The statement from the Queen is now finalized, so she should be able to go ahead with the media blitz of personal appearances at least, if not the SussexRoyal bit.
Rachel's celebrity friends, apart from Jessica Mulroney, are being very quiet.
I think the height of her powers was right after the wedding, up until the pregnancy announcement/Australia tour. Up til then, optimism in her was high, and she was still a novelty. We could dismiss a few stories here and there that she was 'difficult' to work for to a natural adjustment period--American direct go-getterness clashing with a softer, more roundabout British style.
The endless, gurning belly clutching Pregnancy Show put an end to that. The bizarre roll-out of 'Archie' soured a lot of people, then followed a summer of increasingly incredulous 'photo opportunities' with the bebe, turning up disheveled at appearances and being the brains behind 'Polo Baby/Deal Diss/Summer of Private Jets/Blowing off the Queen for Balmoral'. She squandered good will with both hands, capping off with the South African travesty.
The Queen has cut them off at the knees vis. their manifesto of 'demands.' She might get security paid, and they might milk Charles the Cashpoint for more dosh than he says now that he will pay. But height of her powers? Let's see how things go in the next few months. She didn't get what she wanted, so she is determined to make a bunch of noise and be the proverbial stone in the shoe/thorn in the side of the BRF. She won't stop until she's dead or in jail, probably. Not a woman at the height of her powers--a vindictive teenage mall rat who didn't get carte blanche with Daddy's credit card to go to the Galleria.
Finally, a piece of good news. Does being a officer of the Household Guard count as military service? It must, if PP is for it.
She always was Daddy's favorite. She should have had it before now, and the Marines would have had their Captain General at their memorial concert last summer.
I don't see it as racially motivated comment at all. My own DNA is more than exotic, it has Masai and well as Ashkenasim Jews in it. No probs if someone calls it colorful or exotic. I am not a snowflake.
On the surface, it seems like a silly thing to do, after all, their "worth" or cachet is all wrapped up in them being part of the BRF.
But, then again, as a narcissist, what better way to demonstrate how utterly and irresistably perfect you are, than to have your husband give up everything, just to be with you and to make you happy. It could be.....the greatest love story of all time.
So I googled "greatest love stories of all time", and dontcha know:
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/news/g3233/greatest-love-stories-in-history/
I don't care for her one way or another, but what about all the "doors to manual" jokes with Kate? Did she play the classism card? Oh right--there isn't one.
Radical chic and Mau mauing the flak catchers. I remember it well, I remember being too young to really grasp it. I agree that it will take a revolt to make a difference. Or perhaps gradual exposure of the BRF and their shenanigans.
I can’t remember when it was, but I’m sure George Clooney once weighed in on her side and yet he seems oh so quiet these days, what with them being near neighbours and all in the U.K. Also, Elton seems to be quiet and they’ve stayed at his villa. Noonoo has a Toronto pop up shop starting tomorrow and as a bestie you’d expect Meghan to show up wouldn’t you? Mind you, she’s already got the boyfriend shirt so maybe not. It amazes me how no one seems to be rushing in to defend her, just her nameless friends to the DM. So, yes, you are right she’s fenced herself into a corner. What with Harry having burnt his bridges between the two of them they’re in a spot.
I actually quite like a bit of the old tarot myself, so I’m always interested reading what people have to say on that.
I also remember media making fun of Carol when she was caught chewing gum, most likely because she was very nervous. They called her all sorts of names and referred to her modest background. This was not pretty but nobody made a stink to high haven about it.
Meghan Markle has been telling her friends that quitting the royal family is the best thing that could ever happen to Prince Harry, a source told DailyMail.com
'She said that like her, his spirit was being crushed and she simply couldn't stand to see him suffer anymore,' the friend added
Meghan also confided that 'it was her love for him that made this possible'
On Monday, Meghan went for a walk with Archie and her dogs on Vancouver Island, Canada, just a few hours before Harry landed in Vancouver
They are in 'no rush' to move out of the $14m mansion they've been using
The friend also said: 'Meghan and Harry are not planning on changing their website or Instagram name... they will keep the Royal part in'
'Meghan says they will always be considered royalty regardless of where they live or what they do'
When Clinton was impeached, the Wash. Post ran an article that said,"the Secret Service protects you from other people and situations, they do not protect you from yourself (and whatever consequences arise from whatever stupid decision you insist on making)."
Heartily thank you! There are so many nice people on this blog, shame we can't all get together in a bar or cafe somewhere and chat.
Just tap/click your username in blue, as it shows at the top of any of your Nutty posts. That takes you to your Blogger profile where you have the 'edit your profile' option. You can upload a photo from there.
This is a non-techie writing, as you can tell! :-)
It's surely telling that statements from both sides last week referred to awareness and discussion of the Sussex issues and complaints going on 'for months'. She wasn't even in the BRF for two years. Must have started way earlier than could be objectively justified.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of her game plan all along. A smash and grab raid on the BRF and British taxpayers and then bask in the image of a woman for whom great sacrifices were made. The Windsor story is ultimately dull and sad when it came to their exile, but Meghan wouldn't be interested in that bit.
Love reading about people’s DNA, it’s when you do that people realise how diverse we all are. I was gobsmacked my mtDNA line is Saami, with a dollop of Turkish and Chinese thrown in, yet two British parents. Anyway, Marie Helvin (I think) was always referred to as exotic in the U.K. when I was growing up, which sounded to my ears amazingly rare and as if she came from paradise. That it’s now been deemed in the U.K. (according to some) as a racist term seems bizarre.
I remember being upset for Kate as I thought she was the one. The coverage was mortifying for her family. All William's posh friends seemed to come out of the woodwork, thinking it was now safe to make fun of the Middletons with all their 'doors to manual' jokes. And yes, the chewing gum. It was awful. Made you realise what a class-ridden society we still were.
Yet another reminder that Kate went through the mill herself. And said nothing. Same for her family. They stayed strong and silent.
@KC. I guess it used to be easier for stars to do that under the radar. Still disappointed to hear that about Paul Newman, though
Which reaction is exactly why he did it under the radar!
You nailed it. UK has many people with DNA far more "exotic" than hers and they find a way to live and be happy and make friends.
I often think how great it would have been if Harry married a reliable girl of African, Asian, Native American or other indigenous descend or mixed race girl or even white girl with a great sense of humor, sense of duty, honest interest in charities and conservation and natural rapport with people. Their popularity would skyrocket. There would have been no limit to what they could do for good causes.
Truly the choices we make make us in return.
“She was pictured momentarily struggling to contain boisterous Archie in a baby sling while walking her dogs on a beautiful woodland trail.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10781508/prince-harry-canada-meghan-markle-archie/
Yes, you are a thousand times right. That was a shameful snobbery show.
I hope MoS lawyers have a presence of nerve to bring all these shameful headlines to light again to prove papers behave like poisonous pond life towards all, not madam Markle exclusively.
Hoda: as a WOC, Egyptian Coptic -
Jenna : No waaayyyy
Hoda: As I was saying, whatever, plus my partner is Jewish, and having adopted two girls from Central America...
Jenna: Do you know who I am, Meghan? Or you Harry? My grandfather, Poppy, told me everything single thing about, OMG, Princess Diana
Hoda:No way, I forgot that your wonderful, late grandfather was President then. Or was it Regean?
Harry: I want to tell the world how awful it is to lose a-
Hoda: OMG, Jenna, you can tell the world about Diana
Jenna: and every royal,too. My Daddy was President for two terms, and the stuff he knows....
Meghan: Stop!!! Do you know what it is like to be a target of the mean, old press?
Harry: well, yeah, when I wear my N Azi uniform, get drunk and punch out reporters, photographers - wow, how much fun!
Jenna: Harry, I totally understand. My twin, Barb, the perfect SAT twin, Yale graduate, who always was wonderful, just like Prince William, and I was kicked and mocked by the press when I tried to drink while I was twenty years old! Not eighteen, like, in England.
Harry: And you still, for the rest of your life, have Secret Service protecting you, after the law President Obama signed?
Jenna: yeah. What a drag.
Meghan: well, you have no idea the suffering I undergo every time -
Hoda: the suffering about what? How about my two perfect, smiling daughters, adopted just like Archie - oops!
Jenna: Harry, what was your wife saying? You know, we can have drinks together and talk about your Mummy and all the dirt Poppy had about her, and what my Dad can tell you about your family.
Meghan: No,I would not get paid if Jenna says anything!
Hoda: You need more teeth whitener, Megs, and I need Daiy Mail showing you how to use a car seat.
Harry: I am finally having fun.
Hoda: let me tell you how to get the biggest veneers, and where to stay at Rehobath Beach
Meghan: It is all about me!
Jenna: well, my Daddy George found out everything about you. You know what? You are boring, will not weigh yourself on Today Show scales, you share nothing about (giggle) Archie. Harry needs his cracked brown teeth to be fixed first, whoiwheee! After our drinking later. And later.
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>>>I was wondering if getting Harry to leave the BRF was in MM's plans all along.....
Yes . . not so definitively, and definitely not without the HRH Sussex titles. Last summer right after their marriage, they presented the nascent version of their manifesto, if you recall--as early as then they were agitating for a separate "Sussex Court", run independently of Buckingham Palace, from wherever they wanted to live, abroad while still being 'working royals'
The brass neck of the new Duchess, just a few months into her marriage--this ALWAYS was her plan. The Queen said, No, absolutely not . . that's not how we work.
In retaliation, she 'Got pregnant with Archie' and hijacked Eugenie's wedding.
Last April, while Rachel was 'Still Pregnant with her As Yet Unnamed Bubs', Nutty wrote a column about the rather quizzical announcement that the Sussexes were to be posted to Africa 'for a period of up to three years'. I don't know if that was ever legitimately the plan, or if it was calculated to put the fear of God into Rachel after her fall/winter/spring of Pregnancy Gurning . . "Behave yourself or We will send you away to furthest Africa and you can live in a hut for all We care." When Rachel finally got to Africa--that tour still smacked of a punishment on her HRH High Maintenance and even more so on the poor citizens of South Africa . . it was only for 10 days.
But, yeah, Rachel always envisioned a splinter court and went ahead with her manifesto. Because if it's on the Internet, it MUST be true, or be made to be so. Because what Rachel wants, Rachel gets.
This woman is really burning bridges behind her! The one family that could give her a life of luxury and protection, and a platform from which she really could build a meaningful legacy for her life ... and she throws them under the bus. Unbelievable!
DNA analysis is interesting. My sister's daughter had a DNA analysis done as part of her post grad studies (my sister and I would share the same mtDNA and she would have passed that on to her daughter). Her (my niece) mitochondrial DNA is one step away from mtDNA eve, which means that I have a Khoisan ancestor and that there has been a female in every generation to continue that line of mtDNA.
It may explain why their celeb pals haven't said much of anything. Who wants to be associated with litigious people? Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas...
Paps have connections to big media, they all know each other and work together. I doubt that any will be willing to donate to their foundation or give them exposure if they do false flags by setting up your own photo op, then sue for publication.
It would be cool to set Megs up on a sting and expose her gaslighting ass.
It's complicated, but I am more black than Megsy can ever scientifically claim to be!
She also used the word ‘loo’ instead of ‘lavatory’, again she was criticised. I did think the gum chewing was a bit uncouth though, it just wasn’t a good look at that type of event. Agree no fuss was made by them as a family no matter what was reported in the press, they never spoke out to the media. Kudos to them. 🤩
I admire the Middleton’s for bringing up such a well rounded family who love William like one of their own. 😀
Never heard of him. And in any case, he will get Markled like everyone else.
Mom shaming, LOL. So if I see some woman smacking her kid, I can't intervene because that's "mom shaming"?
I think that was a doll; I think she called the paps; I think the article about how how Meg's love saved Harry and they'll always be Royal is a big mistake and I think she is delusional.
>>>> Duke and Duchess of Sussex have issued a legal warning over paparazzi photographs of Meghan and Archie in Canada, complaining that they are being “stalked” following their split from the Royal family, causing them “considerable distress”.
Within hours of Prince Harry joining his wife and son on Vancouver Island for a more "peaceful" life, the couple’s lawyers Schillings sent out a strongly worded letter claiming that the images had been taken by paparazzi who had been “hiding in the bushes and spying”. [...]
Although the former actress is captured cheerfully looking straight down the lens, sources close to the couple have vehemently denied she consented to being photographed and insist they are extremely alarmed about recent paparazzi activity.
A royal source said: “After weeks of being stalked, their house surrounded, erratic car chases and photos taken into the house from photographers patrolling on boats - this is the final straw.
“On Monday, a pap photographer, who had followed Meghan from the house took surreptitious photos while hiding in the bushes, as she returned from a walk in the woods with her eight month old son and dogs.
“These photos have been published online and by a number of UK newspapers, with no consideration of how they were obtained.
“This type of continual harassment and the ignoring of numerous legal notices asking them to stop, obviously raises serious safety and security concerns and is causing them considerable distress.”
The incident will raise questions about the couple’s decision to quit the UK due to the “bullying” British tabloids when they were rarely pursued by paparazzi photographers due to a longstanding agreement between the palace and newspaper editors not to publish any intrusive images following the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.
Now no longer members of the royal family, nor subject to the royal rota system which provides the UK media with lawfully obtained imagery - the couple are effectively being treated as ‘celebrities’ in North America - which one paparazzo told the Telegraph was “like the wild west compared to Britain”. [...] <<<<<<<<
I like the shade thrown here: 'Although the former actress is captured cheerfully looking straight down the lens, sources close to the couple have vehemently denied she consented to being photographed and insist they are extremely alarmed about recent paparazzi activity.' No need to add 'Yeah right'. DT is on the same page as the public here.
The Queen must be in despair. The merching of the royal link marches on with Lady Kitty Spencer (engaged to a very wealthy man) uses her royal links for merchandising ...
Very little Native American DNA from North America - US, Mexico or Canada has been collected so they are relying on S. American and Asian DNA only. I know several people who have verified Native American ancestry but came up zero on two different company's tests
In addition - a large percentage of German DNA will show only as "Western European" as the Germans historically spread all over Europe - and there are only unique markers in a few alpine areas of Germany. The only thing my family showed well was Irish and Western European...which is barely accurate.
Though my sister (who is my half sister) found another half-sibling she was unaware of...that my mother would prefer she had not found at all. Ultimately my fault as I spilled the beans about her paternity many, many years ago...
They have no reasonable expectation of privacy, and therefore it is not illegal to take those photos. At least that's the best I can figure.
“She was pictured momentarily struggling to contain boisterous Archie in a baby sling while walking her dogs on a beautiful woodland trail.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10781508/prince-harry-canada-meghan-markle-archie/'
There was nothing boisterous about Archie on that walk! He was hanging lifeless from her shoulders, albeit with one strap of the harness on her shoulder and the other off.
Yes!! Anne as the Royal Marine captain? I love that! Not only is it a clear message to Haz about "one being expendable ", her duty and clear headedness need to be rewarded!
She won't be kidnapped, that's for sure. 😁
I always felt bad for the gum-chewing Carole. Wasn't she trying to quit smoking as she was trying to mix with the BRF?
I would have been knocking back vodka shooters.
The Harkles, or their family need to pay for security. If Haz feels unsafe, he needs to get on with the money making. These two seem to think all they have to do is want something and they will always always get it.
I'm sure there are many men in London who would do anything to make their family safer. They may have also served. Maybe they were wounded. They deal with it the best they can.
I just want these rotters to have to face reality. No whining. Just get on with it, take accountability, take responsibility, and be grateful for what you have. For once.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7912843/Inside-Jennifer-Anistons-21-million-Bel-Air-oasis-look-stars-8-5K-sq-ft-home.html
Megsy, you are nowhere near being able to compete with this (remember that Jennifer has decades of successful work in TV and movies and a marriage to an A-lister). Being married to Harry is just never going to get you to this level.
And of course he brought up his mother and by doing so reminded us what she went thru and used her as a defense of his own one fingered salute to his family. I used to like Diana. Then again, that was decades ago, she was married to the future king who cheated on her and we weren't all so sick of celebrities using the poor and the sick to make themselves look good. Looking back though, I view her and her legacy differently and Camilla is looking more shrewd and appropriate than a fame seeking dim light like Diana. Diana used the media pretty shamelessly to raise her own profile and stick it to the RF, who may or may not have deserved it. She also became The Template for shameless self-promotion and using the less fortunate for props. I can see how Meghan takes her inspiration from Diana, who manipulated the press to get what she wanted and used her charities to make herself look good.
Speaking of Meghan, she's wasted no time using friends to claim Harry's so much better now that he's ditched his family for her. Yes, that was the best thing that ever happened to him, so says the narcissist who ditched her own family. Her own father was only useful when paying for her education and opening doors in show biz. God I hope they don't drop their suit against the British press and she has to face her father in court. I don't expect that day will ever come. Even dimwits like the greedy Sussexes gotta know that won't enhance The Brand.
Harry really showed his colors ditching a military obligation to hustle work for Meghan...and right in front of Beyonce and Jay Z. Her face was priceless. They are both really sticking it to the RF but, at the end of the day, they are two bit hustlers by comparison.
It's upsetting to think that this may truly be a well-established con considering we have now seen several different size doll substitutes. In doing some research on these re-born / real-life "dolls" I've noted they can be assembled, painted and dressed by doll artists. I'm wondering if someone with a scheming mind could actually purchase additional limbs for their replica, and replace the legs in order to portray the illusion of growth - especially if the "baby" is only seen from a distance. I'm laughing at myself typing this but am serious at the same time.
I haven't read all of today's comments yet and don't know if anyone else had these same ideas regarding the dogs but:
I've also had some additional thoughts about the dogs - and they are horrible ones. Yesterday several of us said the dogs seemed sad and I noticed other people on different forums were saying the same thing. I had written here that it seemed they were overweight and were perhaps not allowed to run about much. I also am noting that MM seemed to hold their leashes loosely and didn't appear to be worried they would take off after any number of wildlife they would surly encounter in the Canadian woods. She also did not appear to have them on recoiling long leads, but rather was just using short leashes which wouldn't provide them with much exercise or excitement.
I wonder if she could have SEDATED them? Could she have given them some sort of tranquilizer to keep them docile during her pap walk preventing them from interfering with her ability to show off? It would certainly account for their sad SUBDUED attitude and her cavalier one. I hope I'm wrong but I have a bad feeling knowing MM always comes first.
I also felt very sad seeing the photos of Harry's lonely arrival at the airport and wondered why MM could not even meet him there? Her yoga instructor rates higher than Haz does? I'm surprised she didn't consider Sussex reunion pap shots worthy of her time. I worry about what type of reception Harry received.
So in summary MM managed to creep me out yesterday with her maniacal smirks from hell as well as make me feel anger over a possible baby scam, sadness over the welfare of those dogs, and deep concern and pity for Harry and what he has gotten himself into.
"Prince Harry is 'incredibly close' to Doria Ragland and has been relying on Meghan Markle's mother for advice on leaving the royal family in Princess Diana's absence"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7912365/Prince-Harry-relying-Meghan-Markles-mother-advice-support-Princess-Dianas-absence.html
This story just gets grosser and grosser. A laughingstock and a slap in the face to the RF.
It cannot end well.
That would be a scoop!
(And the closet!)
Blogger Sandie said...
AIDS is Harry's new public campaign/PR? Really
Playing the Diana card. He did the memorial landmine walk in Africa after all.
She visited an AIDS hospice when the royal-born were reluctant/refusing to do it, and shook hands with an AIDS patient when the doctors there told her she would not get it that way, and that changed the way people thought and acted about the disease.
And her highlighting the landmine clearing. These were wonderful things, even if the landmine ban might have been a longer harder fight if she had lived longer. Maybe an FU to the establishment, but once she died the politicians acted if only to look good to the,grieving public.
But as you said, AIDS is not the death sentence it was. Maybe he feels closer that way to his mum, who loved him for his own sake and not his fame (which is mainly due to having those parents, really)
Just read the headline that Harry relies on Doria for advice. OMG. That explains a LOT! No wonder he tried to grab all he could from his grandma before breaking away to Canada.
I feel for my Canadian cousins who have to put up with this crap and pay tax for it.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/meghan-markle-canada-uk-lululemon-wardrobe
Threats to sue over the slightest thing........I hope the Canadian people tell them that if they don’t like having their pictures taken then they should remain indoors or go out in public and get their picture taken wherever they go!!!!!!!!!!! They are private. citizens, no?
Yep, plus a huge insult to his family who have taken care of him for most of his life.
Is Megsy getting reckless because she did not get what she wanted from the BRF and she is feeling insecure about the future?
This really is a huge mess, and Harry has done nothing, absolutely nothing to reinforce any kind of bond with his family or gratitude to his family.
Doria? She dumped her kid with the father!
I have now come across numerous people on different platforms saying that they find themselves to suddenly being followers of sussexroyal instagram, when they did not ask for it.
Plus there is this analysis that discovered a strange spike of followers from Brazil, from the same IP address, in less than a minute...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1219743876950433793
"I don't know that much about babies, so perhaps the folk here could help me out. At 8.5 months would not a child be interested in the environment?"
The Cambridges had baby Louis on the balcony at a young age where he was seen totally engaged in his surroundings, oohing and aahing at the fireworks and looking up at the jets.
I don't think an 8.5 month old baby would enjoy a walk with his head squashed into his "mother's" chest not only being prevented from seeing all around him but from being able to breathe as well!
Do you ever just look at this mess and think "I can't believe Harry imploded his life over a supporting actress from Suits?"
Every. Single. Day.
M is definitely burning her bridges with the BRF.
How does she think she benefits from this kind comment?
They're counting on the *Commonwealth* to keep them afloat in luxury and forelock tugging. That's also why I suspect that they retain the Pres and VP of the Commonwealth Foundation (or whatever it's called). Because in these positions with 40 or so countries, the world is their free luxury vacay oyster. They view the Commonwealth as easy pickings, Just. Like. Canada.
Spot on!! I have no doubt that this is the reason they have plonked their royal backsides in Canada. All this nonsense about not going to the USA because of Trump is simply smoke & mirrors.
How can Harry be so close to a woman he's met maybe a handful of times in the two years that he's been married to her daughter? The narrative that Meg is trying to put forward now is pretty funny, and not even a little bit believable
Well, thaaaat's what William had with the Middletons, he'd spend holidays with her family instead of his own....so now Harry has the family he has never known?
Nice try twinkle... do we want to take bets on what the next bit of a gossip to come from her "friends" will be?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7913065/Thomas-Markle-fears-Meghan-Prince-Harry-wont-lowered-ground.html
Really looking forward to watching this tomorrow. I feel so sad for Thomas.
It paints them in a terrible sight.
@Swamp Woman
Not much really. We can plant prickly bushes, we can install alarms, we have things like neighborhood watch. Police gave us liquid called "smart water" which, if sprayed on our things leaves indestructible trace and thus supposedly makes out stuff of no use for robbers. But we can't protect ourselves against assault on streets or violent burglaries. The latest knife crime epidemic in London is horrendous. A lot of it gang wars but ordinary people die too.
We live out in the country in a small hamlet in the woods and I would feel a heck of a lot more comfortable with a gun in my house but I can't legally get it.
I hope this isn't too off topic because we've discussed what the royals and other VIPs have for security, but I didn't know what ordinary people could do legally. Sounds like we are in the same type of situation albeit different countries, both of us out in a rural area in the woods. We never used to worry about ever locking the doors and we usually don't (okay, never) lock the vehicle doors at night. However, there are increasing numbers of gang members stealing vehicles in the city and then driving out to isolated houses in adjoining rural counties and kicking in the doors to steal anything they can. Sometimes they leave witnesses; too often they don't.
We plan to do some major remodeling because we live in an older masonry house with over 10.5 feet (3.2 meters) of floor to ceiling windows in the living room. While it has a nice view of flowers, the windows are a real pain in the butt in hurricane season which is half the year. We put in solid doors that can't be kicked in, so those windows are the major remaining weak point.
For the person scoffing at thorny bushes as a deterrent, we do have roses with large thorns outside the bedroom windows to gently discourage the larceny minded if the dogs don't discourage them first. Defensive landscaping is widely practiced here. Our nearest police are 45 minutes away. Happily we have firearms, but we would still prefer to deny entrance to the invaders. (Plus it saves on clean up.)
Even upper middle class houses are putting in safe rooms either when they are built are retroactively for safety from thieves as well as storms.
I completely agree with Princess Anne for the Royal Marines, but she does so much already!
Me too :(
For Harry to not even have met his father-in-law prior to the wedding was such bad manners.
As to what happened later - their behaviour, (Meghan's in particular) was just downright cruel.
Although I am not in the UK I have empathy about your concern about safety. I live in the US and learned that police say the best defense against robbers is a barking dog, which you probably know already. And a good one-owner type of devoted dog can help your personal safety too. I live in the country and have had a number of different breeds over the decades and swear by a Kuvasz, not a vicious crazy dog but will be your loyal protector (in Middle Ages Kings used them as protectors) and put their life on the line for you. I had one run in front of a car coming up my isolated long driveway on a hill to prevent it getting to my house (she didn't get hurt) at night
Yes, I think Harry and Meg (the greedy Ingrates) definitely should pay for their own protection too; what gall to expect to think the UK should public pay one cent more for their existence. If they show up in America I will have my letters ready to my public representatives (Governor, Congress, Senate and Pres.) to say No to any public funding for their security.
One of the major differences between the UK and the USA, apart from the fact that you can have firearms - is that in the UK if someone breaks into your home and you use force against them - chances are that YOU will be the one prosecuted!
Investigative Journalists? They are a dying breed in the UK.
Most of our news is copy & paste from one source.
Lazy journalism is what we have - in abundance.
It is possible they are trying to protect Archie the person's future if there is genuinely a child attached to the concept. If so, he exists somewhere and will grow up under this name. Perhaps the BRF really is taking the long view here.
I believe there is a baby (but by surrogate) and I believe it is being protected somewhere and that "Archie" isn't the real name. Perhaps I too need a tin foil hat!
Ladies and gentleman,
No comments on the H&M umbrella company obvious merch on the recent pap photos?? I love the Fox Business threw shade calling it out by sounding like a teenage fan. It reads pretty funny but not funny if you catch the shade!
Thank you! I really enjoy coming here, though everything feels a bit anti-climax since the Suxxits got their walking papers.
Rachel may be very disappointed that she might not get a fawning reception by the US media. Unlike their counterparts Across the pond, American media outlets are not constrained into walking on eggshells about royal family members to protect their access. Harrys no longer a royal, And no one here of sound mind would have genuflected to A Californian who used to Open briefcases in a slip and F me heels. You guys will think this is funny… I generally do not watch the evening news anymore but I was visiting a friend in the hospital and caught the NBC evening news. The “joyful family reunion in Canada” got no more than 15 seconds...a couple of photos of Harry and Rachel by some water and a 1 sec flash of Archie in SA. They cut out that fast. Lester holt’s voiceover narration was About five sentences long, if that. Everyone has Suxxits fstigue. NBC is really influential with the top rated morning program Rach would be keen to get on. All the major American networks exhaustively cover the wedding Such a short time ago and I think they’re all feeling Justifiably screwed to have sent so many teams to England at such great expense when the American Duchess has done nothing but make America look bad. Can we hope that it’s finally happened and Rachel has Markles herself? She’s a loser for the ages and we will have all the pictures forever.
I agree that there has been Harry and Meg fatigue in the media here. Especially when the narrative is always the same. I got out because the British paparazzi and now in Canada it’s still the same. Really the story is lame and old. Especially when it’s an obvious ploy for attention. The media is over it already. She’s already stale. Racism, paparazzi won’t leave us alone so I’ll sue, and we love each other is just getting pretty boring!
Not sure how reliable this source is but apparently British PR person Mark Borokowski is saying Meg has ambitions to run for president in the US. May explain the reason she doesn’t want to come back here for any extended period while Trump is in office.
Her skeletons are so bad I can’t even imagine her as a political candidate. It’s laughable!!
Thank you @Ozmanda! for the reading material :)
Found another interesting article. Not sure if this made it into the comments above. Palace says it’s “would not be satisfactory for Royal to be used for Sussex Royal”. That’s awesome and such a shot at Meg “We’ll always be royals” BS.
https://people.com/royals/can-meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-still-use-the-sussex-royal-name-for-their-brand/amp/
“Not sure how reliable this source is but apparently British PR person Mark Borokowski is saying Meg has ambitions to run for president in the US.”
That would make ME want to move to Canada.
"Trudy: I agree about the baby. If there is one, this wasn't it. No baby that old faces in, they face out to see the world. And they don't sleep in those front carriers (older babies)unless they are beyond exhaused."
Hi MustySyphone - What did you think of the dogs being so subdued - do you think they might have been tranquilized? They seemed so lethargic. :-(
I do not think that they want anything to do with a quiet environmentally-correct life, however.
I mentioned waaaaay up there somewhere about the dogs not behaving in a doglike fashion and wondered if they were sedated. They really look off to an animal person, like the 'baby' looks off to a parent.
So, first a couple of @s:
@Hikari, Yes! on calling her Rach. I like it for several reasons: 1) it sounds like roach and retch and wretch (all fitting); 2) it rhymes with "H", and that's what she calls him lolololno; 3) it was her original name, and I'm sure when she hears or reads it, it grates and is a reminder of the family she never had that she really had but is too ashamed of to want any association.
@Trudy Blue, you know I love you, but retractable leashes would have been even more dangerous because of the leverage those leashes give the dogs over person/doll. Also, they can be quite dangerous. I have a long scar on the back of my leg, behind my knee, from when someone couldn't control their small dog, the nylon retractable carved into the back of my leg, and it cut deeply (I"m lucky it wasn't worse) and was so painful and took forever to heal. I also know of a dog who hung himself off the deck because his stupid owner left him and squirrels alone together in the back yard when the dog has tied out on one. I could keep going, but it gets more disturbing. Short version, I'm a big fan of dogs and exercise, I'm not a retractable leash fan because the dangers are real. For once, Rach got something accidentally right. I've ignored all the other dog and breed talk, but this I had to share.
And now, today's absurd twist and the lawsuit. Not only was Rach looking straight down the camera lens, grinning like the unstable wretch that she is, but she's really not thought this strategy through. Rach & H are stirring up hate with the press, threatening to sue already. Then, they sling fresh merde at the BRF. No wonder A-listers have run from the duo. No one wants to be associated with this kind of drama and trouble-making, but that's especially true for celebrities who need to cultivate and maintain decent relationships within the press and who do not want to alienate themselves from W&K. And this "we'll always be royal and we'll use the name we want" stuff- it's incendiary and rude rhetoric that underscores just who she is. This was a smash-and-cash-grabdication, and now all except the serious sugars are put off by her antics. And it's not going to get better.
Pediatricians in the US say rule of thumb is that baby’s birthweight doubles in 6 months and tripled in one year. Both of my children fit this almost exactly.
To go full hat (tinfoil of course), one could suppose they are stand-in dogs and perhaps they don't know these random three people, like Archie not knowing his parents in SA.
Sure, Rach, go for it. No political experience. No business experience. No law school or other legal experience (Suits doesn't count), no legislative experience, no local government or public policy experience, and an abysmal track record with relationships, family, and the BRF. You'll be the political equivalent of drawn and quartered in no time, so go for it. It will be fun to watch.
I like your new bee. :)
"These two seem to think all they have to do is want something and they will always always get it.
I'm sure there are many men in London who would do anything to make their family safer. They may have also served. Maybe they were wounded. They deal with it the best they can.
I just want these rotters to have to face reality. No whining. Just get on with it, take accountability, take responsibility, and be grateful for what you have. For once."
Beautifully stated. Their ingratitude is breathtakingly repulsive. What indecent people they are...playing the victim card to justify destructive behaviors. Gleefully blowing up the BRF, suing media left and right, suffocating any public goodwill in the name of not receiving every thing in life they want, exactly the way they want it and exactly when they want it. Not an attractive way to be and definitely not bankable, which is their bottom line. Ultimately, what corporate or charitable entity will want to dealing with such difficult, immature, entitled idiots?
It is not her - my first tip off was the boobs, her boobs are not like that.
However, many here have mentioned her calves being far fuller than we expect from her and it would also explain the need for a full face (to match up with other video) and could also explain the maniacal smile if it was from a publicity walk or TV acting clip.
However, this begs the question of what OTHER imbecile is carting around a giant doll baby in a crappy way that doesn't know how to hold a baby? You're going to find me two of these women (Megsy plus her presumed body double)? I have a hard time with that, so I'm just throwing it out there because the porn video was very very convincing and it is the same technology.
Trudy Blue found the bee for me. I think it's fab, too! Thanks!
@Dawgs well said, and exactly:
Not an attractive way to be and definitely not bankable, which is their bottom line. Ultimately, what corporate or charitable entity will want to dealing with such difficult, immature, entitled idiots?
https://twitter.com/TrueQanuck11/
It's... a trip. You have to have a background in general Satanic Baby Eater knowledge to really be able to follow all the moving parts but I wanted to throw that in for everyone. It's some next level stuff beyond what we generally stick to. Covers politicians and billionaires and foundations and who's been supporting whom etc.
Yes, even normal citizens on DListed are commenting like "woah pull back, time to lay low."
She appears to be shockingly clueless.
@Elle - I would not know about retractable leashes being dangerous, but either way the ones MM was using seemed too short for the dogs to enjoy themselves at all. Even just a little longer would have seemed more generous. Believe it or not I have a cat (an ocicat) that walks on a leash with his special cat harness and I use a decent length leash that enables me to keep him within a safe distance from me but enough length for him to sniff around. And I never leave him outside on it.
I suppose Markle should not have been walking two dogs and her baby backwards in a sling, at the same time - if the baby was real that is! She looked ridiculous!
@Hunter - LOL @the doggy stand-ins!!
I’m tending to agree with an earlier comment here on nutty flavor that I can’t locate that Meg called the paps and the photos were published, but when Harry arrived back in Canada last night, he was furious, so she lied and told him they were stalking her and Archieficial.
Torontopaper
@torontopaper1
Darling, you tried merching the baby carrier? And then you call it pap pics and want to sue? Gan Gan isn't amused!
'The last time they might see me is being lowered into the ground,' he explains during the interview.
Unfortunately, I think he’s being optimistic. She is so incredibly cold and callous I doubt she’d even bother to go to his funeral. Especially if it conflicted with an A-list event.
The only reason I can see a reconciliation or, if he passes, Meghan attending his funeral, it would be to squeeze out one last use of Thomas to enhance her public image. Sad, but likely true.
I will have to reluctantly agree with that. He is of no further use to her. She's burned so many bridges, though, she may wish she could borrow his couch down there in Mexico.
And on that sad note, I'll say goodnight. I'm going to wrap up in extra warm blankets tonight because we're having some actual below-freezing temps here in North Florida (figures, all the fruit trees and flowers are starting to bloom). The National Weather Service has issued a falling iguana alert for south Florida. When the temperature drops below 40 F, large dormant iguanas up to 5' long fall out of trees onto unsuspecting tourists and snowbirds. (Good times.)
“The only reason I can see a reconciliation or, if he passes, Meghan attending his funeral, it would be to squeeze out one last use of Thomas to enhance her public image.”
I think she is in a lose/lose situation when he passes. If she shows up at his funeral, she’ll be blasted for waiting until it was too late or accused of milking his death for PR. If she doesn’t go, she’ll be called every synonym for “callous” in the thesaurus.
She’s screwed either way- and I’m OK with that.
I do wish that Mr. Markle had taken the high road and stayed out of the media. I understand that he is hurt/angry/confused but I really think that speaking to the press has made the situation worse for him.
"Did anyone see the article about Mayhem’s dad daying he’ll probably die without ever seeing Meghan again?"
Then I guess he 'will die a happy man' as the old saying goes (only he just doesn't realize it yet)!
Trudy Blue I love cats on leashes! Mine prefers his pillows (he's a big chicken), but I bet he dreams of walking on a leash :)
I don't believe her pap video was faked. I think she set it up with the paps and the story she's suing them is false PR for whatever reason.
I have a traveling family so I keep an eye on their flights. And hubby and I fly regularly. Plus I love it when I hear a plane overhead and pop on my app and see where it’s going to and from. It’s really cool! Not creepy at all.
That baby looked so unnatural and uncomfortable hanging there crookedly like dead weight. Now they are suing the media in Canada?
The ongoing saga of H&M is unbelievably awful- the absolute hide of these two entitled twits. God forbid, I have to agree with Donald Trump and say that it is just not right that the 93 year old queen, after a lifetime of service is having to deal with all this - an ungrateful,deceitful and vindictive grandchild being the unkindest cut of all.
Much as I would like to, I can't look away now, I am awaiting the next gripping instalment so look forward to more commentary from you all..
My guess on this most recent sh*t show is going to become a desperate plea to Harry about how the paps are quite literally jumping out of the bushes. “Save us H! If you love me you’ll protect us!” . She saved this spectacle for the day of his arrival so not only will he be jet-lagged and tired, he’ll have an hysterical wife to deal with. “The only safe place for us is behind a walled, gated MCMansion in Beverly Hills or Malibu.”
If her lunacy continues, she’s giving the RF all the grounds they need to have te marriage annulled due to insanity.
Then I guess he 'will die a happy man' as the old saying goes (only he just doesn't realize it yet)!
@Lavender Toast: lol, You make a good point.
It seems Thomas has realized what his little girl truly is, an ungrateful piece of (fill in the blank).
I hope he lives long enough to see karma catch up with Meghan as she becomes a worldwide pariah after she cheats on Harry, he divorces her, and leaves her with nothing because she has spent every penny - and she gains 80 pounds (37kg).
“With as litigious as these two are, a divorce will be the equivalent of a steel cage death match.”
Hey! There’s a money-making opportunity for them. They could throw it up on pay-per-view and rake in the dough.
After reading today's diatribes from Rach & H, it's clear they are 2020s answer to Linda Litzke and Chad Feldheimer.
"...I want to say Mark..."
So, this is hysterically funny IMO. If you're touchy about language, there are two F bombs, but totally worth it for the name gag:
https://twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1219682092835115008
Part 1
Harry and Meghan open fresh battle with paparazzi after Canada pictures
Valentine Low | David Brown, Chief News Correspondent
January 22 2020, 12:00am,
Prince Harry was photographed at Victoria airport with police protection
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are taking legal action to prevent unauthorised photographs being taken of them in Canada and say that they are being harassed by dangerous paparazzi.
The couple could invoke British Columbian privacy laws after Meghan was pictured carrying their son Archie in a park on Vancouver Island while accompanied by officers from Scotland Yard and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. On Monday night Prince Harry was photographed getting off a BA flight to Vancouver with two other British officers, before flying to the island on a smaller plane. Which country should pay their estimated £3 million annual security bill has been a key issue in their move to Canada.
Their lawyers say that the duchess has been harassed and that the photos were taken without her consent by a photographer hiding in bushes. The couple say that paparazzi are camped outside their mansion and driving dangerously during pursuits. Photographs of Meghan in Horth Hill park were distributed by Splash, a US picture agency. It says that they were taken while Meghan was on a public path and she did not appear harassed or uncomfortable.
In 1996 British Columbia strengthened its privacy laws to make it a civil wrong to “willfully . . . violate the privacy of another”. Privacy can also be violated by “surveillance”.
Mark Stephens, a media lawyer with Howard Kennedy in London, said that the pictures of the duchess were “obviously a private moment” and added that it could be hard to take legal action against the photographer because of the difficulty in identifying them. Paparazzi are often freelance and sell pictures through agencies.
“You may be able to stop them appearing in the UK, you may be able to stop them in France, but that does not stop the Australian or South African media running them if they want to, because the laws are different and they probably will be able to get away with it,” he said. “Is there any purpose in playing Whac-A-Mole over a set of images like that?”
David Fraser, of McInnes Cooper, a Canadian privacy lawyer, said that the duchess may not be protected by the 1996 act as she was in a public park.
She “could not have much expectation of privacy” in the park and there was a “constitutionally enshrined right to freedom of expression and the press”, he said. “The fact that the duke and duchess are setting up home in Canada is certainly newsworthy I say, but it is a judgment call. If they are constantly followed, photographed and constantly being watched that could amount to surveillance.”
Damages for breach of privacy can rise to about C$20,000 (£11,800), far less than a photographer could earn from global syndication of the photographs.
Mr Fraser said that the Sussexes could seek an injunction to prevent the media from coming within a set distance or make a complaint of criminal harassment. “We do not have huge celebrity or paparazzi culture in Canada,” he said. “Many Hollywood productions are filmed in Vancouver and Toronto and I have not heard of problems.”
Amber Melville-Brown, head of media and reputation at Withersworldwide, said: “Privacy laws in Canada are more protective than they are in the US but less developed than the more protective laws of England and Wales.”
JK Rowling’s successful action in England over publication of photos of her son in a pushchair showed that most modern legal systems would seek to protect the “vulnerable”, she said.
“If the British Columbia courts are faced with persistent paparazzi pursuit of the couple and their child on Canadian soil, Archie could be the couple’s secret weapon to garner some degree of privacy protection,” she added.
New neighbours take a dim view of footing security bill
About 80,000 Canadians have signed a petition to demand that the Sussexes pay their own way just as Prince Harry arrived in Vancouver after surrendering his royal titles (Charlie Mitchell writes).
A petition started by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation demanded that there be “no taxpayer support” for the couple. Aaron Wudrick, the group’s director, said: “The duke and duchess are welcome but Canadians feel they must pay their own way. The fact that over ten thousand Canadians per day felt compelled to sign this petition suggests the sentiment is very strong.”
Canadians have become increasingly angry that they may be required to pay the couple’s security bill, estimated at £3 million a year. According to polling by the Angus Reid Institute, 73 per cent think Canada should not pay if the couple settle there permanently. The issue threatens to sour the warm reception Harry and Meghan have received.
The couple have agreed to surrender their titles and forgo public funds, paving the way for commercial contracts and merchandising. However, British or Canadian taxpayers may still cover their security bill. Canada traditionally protects visiting royals, but a long-term arrangement for former royals is largely without precedent. At present the couple are guarded by Metropolitan Police officers, who do not have jurisdiction on Canadian soil.
"If those pics were taken without consent what were the RPOs doing? They could have given chase to the paparazzi!"
It's my understanding that protection officers don't do things like that. They are to ensure the physical safety of the person(s) they are protecting. If on active protection duty, they don't walk dogs or scoop dog poop or chase paps.
It's not clear to me what they could have done (even if M hadn't set it up herself) if this took place in a public park or even on the border of public land. There's no expectation of privacy in those situations.
Laws about photos and agreements about the royals are different in the UK (as the recently posted Times article says) but even there, from what I've read the most an RPO will do is ask people not to take photos-- I don't think there would be chases by RPOs.
Re- what could the protection officers have done? (Assuming that Megsy did not set up these pap pictures)
Well let's see...
1. Been alert enough to see the paps that have been allegedly harassing the duchess and camping outside her house, around the park where she was taking her regular stroll with the baby and her dogs. (Since she allegedly does this regularly)
2. Been alert enough to spot a hidden pap while they were out protecting the dear duchess and their baby prince. They are the Scotland yards finest, they have been trained to spot the hidden, not so apparent dangers lurking about.
3. Since the duchess did spot the cameras and out of the goodness of her kind heart even graced them with a lovely smile, the officers could have THEN decided to do their jobs instead making sure they were conspicuously 10 steps behind and unaware of the harassing paps.
4. Ideally, while protecting royals, the protection protocol requires the officers to be around the subject - a few places ahead incase someone comes from the front and to clear the way. Besides the subject to help,assist and keep away anything that comes from behind the bushes and obviously a few places behind the subject incase someone attacks from behind.
5. If the duchess was so distressed that the baby was creating a ruckus and was almost falling off then the protection officers are required to assist. It's a danger to the principal, it's a danger to the baby and is basic humanity at the very least.
6. They don't have to pick up after the dogs or change dirty napps but they are there to protect the clueless duchess who just happened to walk by while the pap was lurking in the bushes. This is an invasion of her privacy and safety which they are there to protect. Again, privacy and safety both. They should have either asked the pap to stop taking pictures, asked him to leave or whisked the poor hapless duchess away from this invasion of privacy situation. That is their job (unless specifically asked not to)
Am I leaving something out??
McMansion:
A large and pretentious house, typically of shoddy construction, typical of "upscale" suburban developments in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Such houses are characterized by steep roofs of complex design, theatrical entrances, lack of stylistic integrity and backsides which are notably less fussy than their fronts. They are often placed closely together to maximize the developer's profits and appeal to people who value perceived social status over actual, physical, economic or historic value.
This is from Urban Dictionary, although I would have enjoyed writing a definition myself. I didn't want to miss anything! But I'll add that it's not just in the US, although the definition may be. Wish we could add photos. Oh! Go to Google Images and enter the term. I found lots but can't copy the link for some reason.
I guess all I'd add is the term "nouveau riche."
As far as we know he still is. I think people are referring to the programme that’s on tonight here in Britain, Thomas Markle: My story. 😉
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Wow, what unfortunate timing that once again, just as a senior member of the Royal Family was heralding an important initiative, the Sussex Royal Instagram account kicked into life with some PR pictures at the very same moment.
The cognitive dissonance in that marriage is immense. Megsy loves the camera and poses for it. She especially loves being papped when the photos can be used to upstage someone in the BRF. Harry is hostile to photographers. He pretends not to see that not only was she posing for the camera but it is obvious that she set it up, or willingly participated in the set up. She goes along with his outrage at privacy being breached (in a public place?). The tension in this dynamic must be fraught and something is going to break.
Maybe at the end of the marriage, (if that happens) Harry may go rogue and not go crawling back to his family. Maybe he will travel the world as a charitable, naughty boy, impregnating various opportunists and becoming the biggest headache that the monarchy ever encountered.
HRH The Duchess of Sussex (but they have been asked not to use the HRH anymore)
The Duchess of Sussex (one would assume that this is the correct way to refer to her, but if it is a courtesy title, which I think it is for Megsy as she is a USA citizen and not a British citizen, then the 'The' is not used)
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (for some reason, BP put this out as the correct address ... and then said oops, we made a mistake!)
It is actually a lot more complicated than I have outlined above, but it is NEVER Duchess Meghan.
@Sandie. I agree, must be hell on earth in Murky Megs Mcmansion. No wonder the PPO, & dogs, look Shell shocked. Less than 24 hours since Harry landed & their courting days are over. The new L words, Litigation & Larceny. Hope you’re happy Harry.