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Open Post: Harry's Resignation Speech

Two hundred and twenty four years after George Washington made his 1796 Farewell Address, it is still remembered as an example of great statesmanship and a noble farewell to a lifetime of service.

Harry, Duke of Sussex, made his farewell speech to the British people yesterday evening. As the Spectator UK put it, "the Captain General of the Royal Marines is resigning his post in order to spend more time on Instagram."

What do you think of Harry's farewell address? How will it be remembered?

Last-minute conversations

Harry had two significant meetings before his departure to Canada.

What do you think Harry and Boris Johnson had to say to one another?

What about Harry and William?

Comments

Ozmanda said…
@Elle I will dig up some sources for your reading entertainment :)

I had a close look at the photo and expanded the image - that child’s face is pure white!!!! There is no way that is real or she mates with a ghost.
Duty calls said…
If it’s a doll, and I think it may be, why use one that was oversized? Why not use one that is appropriately sized for the child’s age? I wondered the same thing about the polo match, and I thought that was also a doll.
@Glinda the Good Bish said...

It's a doll. There are pictures on Tumblr where you can see his right hand being held upright by some kind of strap around her neck. There's hardly any weight on the shoulder straps, the right one is halfway down her arm and it's loose but that's the direction she has the "baby" slung. A hundred years ago or even less and they'd have locked her up by now.

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I just snorted coffee out my nose lol
Ava C said…
People have short memories about the years of pointed criticism of Kate. Also, in defending Meghan they commit the very injustices they rail about in others. Part of the attitude Laurence Fox referred to, where woke warriors think they can shut someone down if they are male, stale and pale (whatever the phrase is). Well for them Kate is stale and pale and apparently she was given an easy ride compared to poor Meghan (and don't get me started on Camilla).

DT readers have a rare opportunity to comment this morning in a Kate fashion article, and they're making use of it. One Meghan defender writes of the "pointless vitriol heaped on" the Sussexes and of Kate "Lucky for her that she 'arrived' in the royal entourage when she was really too young for the press to get away with bullying her even by their own low standards - amazing in this age of MeToo that an independent, hardworking, successful woman in her thirties is fair game for a sustained, full-on onslaught of nastiness."

I have responded "What you call bullying is valid criticism of Meghan and came from the public via online comments far more than the actual media coverage. Kate was also criticised by the public for years, to the same degree but for far longer than Meghan but since she has raised her game this has changed. Meghan wished to arrange things to lessen public scrutiny but keep all her privileges. That is what is driving the current saga. Thankfully she has not succeeded." I expect my comment will vanish soon ...
She really is barking mad. And thanks to whichever nuttier mentioned Peter Phillips flogging milk in China. He clearly didn't think it through - milk with all the associations that word has when used as a verb. And this is the template for those not in direct line to the throne.
Ava C said…
Haven't had time to read all the latest comments but, like @Astra Worthington I'm wondering if Archie is given something to make him quiet, because if Meghan can't cope with an inert baby she certainly can't cope with a normal lively one! I can't see it could be a doll, as her security would know about it, and she'd surely be reported to SOMEBODY. The world hasn't gone completely mad yet?

I keep thinking of that superb novel Woman in White, written when dastardly Victorian men and their pet doctors could quietly lock up their wives in convenient asylums. Except it would be in reverse with Meghan. Instead of being on the edge of my seat, worried about the woman and praying for her freedom, I'm on the other side. "She's over there! Quick! Oh, and grab the baby!"
Animal Lover said…
@Tatty

Chris ship was having a field day earlier on twitter about how a pap pic like this would never have happened in England. He made several tweets about it.

Celebs can't arrange for pap sessions in the UK? I thought that was something Katie Price did all the time.
Teasmade said…
"Commenting" so I can get email updates at work.
wastingtime said…
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wastingtime said…
This photo I think was taken in the uk, the number plate is yellow they are a different colour in Canada, you can see it in the video!

If this is the case, when was it taken? Which also means Archie was smaller and younger.
Portcitygirl said…
Guess they had to wait until safely in NA before going after Anne's son.
Hope the Queen has a plan. Judas, I mean Harry, is full throttle ahead.
PaisleyGirl said…
I've been trying to catch up with so many wonderful and insightful comments the past few days. 'Luckily' I've been in bed with the flu, so have been reading a few thousand comments the past two days.

Re Meghan's pap walk: I find this seriously disturbing on so many levels. Either this is a real baby, in which case I feel terribly sorry for the child and the way he is being treated OR this is a doll, in which case Meghan should be committed. She makes Michael Jackson look like a good parent.
I am leaning towards this being a doll, for all the reasons mentioned by other posters above, but also the lack of a diaper on 'Archie' and the legs which are disproportionately long and also a lot longer than Lake Archie in the New Years instagram photo.

A few other curious points: why are there no RPO's walking in front of Meghan? Of course they would be blocking the view in the photos, but shouldn't their objective be protecting Meghan and Archie? Also, Meghan's face looks totally different from the photos at Canada House last week. She looks more like she did last year or even before the 'pregnancy'. This situation is seriously messing with my mind - or maybe it's my feverish condition. Lastly, I am worried about the dogs. They look so sad. As if they are shouted at a lot.
Ava C said…
@ Animal Lover

Yes there's pap sessions in the UK but there's an agreement with the BRF not to use pap shots when featuring royal children unless they have permission, and by extension, a royal mother would get a lot of flack for actually enabling such shots as she'd weaken the agreement for the other royal children.

this is one of the many crazy aspects of the Sussex's new way of life. Now they've left British shores, Archie is far more exposed to the media. Very sad that his 'mother' actually wants this. I don't care how in thrall Harry is to her. If this is his baby, and he sees her parading him on a regular basis, he surely can't stand by? His eyes have to be opened to the true Meghan. Surely.

Nothing is stronger, for a normal person, than the need to protect a baby. I was overwhelmed and even frightened by the love I felt for my baby niece, even though I'm not a mother. I'd have willingly died for her in an instant. Still would.
That should have been ‘placate’ 🙄 and not pacify. 😫
@wasting time ‘This photo I think was taken in the uk, the number plate is yellow they are a different colour in Canada, you can see it in the video!’

We have white number plates in Britain.
xxxxx said…
Vancouver Megs has these guys on speed dial>>>>>

Splash News - Wikipedia
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wastingtime said…
@Raspberry Ruffle
I live in the uk......The car number plates at the back are yellow
lizzie said…
Read some DM comments on the Archie sighting. Lots think it's a doll. Others are concerned about how the child is held. Many think he's not wearing a diaper.

Some comments defending M that seem kind of weak:

Get over it, it's her kid and she can hold it upside down if she likes. 

Get lost. If the baby wasn't secure he would fall out. He didn't so you are WRONG.

You need a psychiatrist.
@Wasting Time, ‘I live in the uk......The car number plates at the back are yellow.’

Perhaps you should have been more specific then, it was a blanket statement. 😂😳 Regardless, I highly doubt the photo was taken in the UK, they don’t pap royal children on unofficial outings. Meghan wouldn’t have been smiling either, she’s clearly very happy with being photographed. 😏
Jenx said…
Morning. A few things are bugging me as I peruse the latest updates. Harry in "Canada" doesn't look 100% like Harry. Did you notice the Hiking Meghan in lulukemon tights had a butt AND well-shaped calves? Is there such a thing as calf pads. And she looked quite athletic from the bavk/side shots. Is there some major trolling going on here?

Also, why oh why, with all this yammering on about security woukd they say whete Harry is going? Like the neighbourhood practically. Things are so upside down, sideways strange.
@lizzie, ‘ead some DM comments on the Archie sighting. Lots think it's a doll. Others are concerned about how the child is held. Many think he's not wearing a diaper.’

I’m one of the few nutties who believe Meghan gave birth. However, even I don’t buy this photo etc. I agree with the DM comments, he doesn’t appear to be wearing a nappy and he looks lifeless. 🤔
Maggie said…
Front plates are white rear are yellow.
Duty calls said…
If her face is an “old face” and this is a doll, the pictures could have been taken any time and were just released to overshadow the Cambridges. I wonder if Tumblr or Twitter users will figure out where the picture was taken.

Also, I was initially disappointed that the palace let Harry participate in the Africa summit, even at a low level, but after reviewing the press today and seeing William in sit down talks with African presidents and the family mingling at Buck House, I think it is a message to him that this is what you gave up. While we are here, you are there. Plus, it was Africa, which is one of his pet projects, and the wives were there, which means that Meghan could have potentially been there meeting world leaders. They gave him a taste and sent him on his way. With her creepy papp walk, the message to the world is, we gave up on the chance to have real influence for the chance to get papped walking in the woods. Her desire to show that “she’s now okay” has backfired.
Portcitygirl said…
Raspberry Ruffle,
I feel the same.
Ròn said…
Thoughts on the pap pics -

Very Pippa-esque

Childs comfort compromised to allow a clear shot of filler face

H allowing his child to be papped after all the Di trauma

What did the Queen think when she was brought her morning newspapers

Nicely timed to bump his brothers engagement of the front pages

I would love to know what the RPO's said to each other when they came off duty, as they sat there painfully uncurling their toes.....
@Ron, ‘Thoughts on the pap pics -

Very Pippa-esque

Childs comfort compromised to allow a clear shot of filler face

H allowing his child to be papped after all the Di trauma

What did the Queen think when she was brought her morning newspapers

Nicely timed to bump his brothers engagement of the front pages

I would love to know what the RPO's said to each other when they came off duty, as they sat there painfully uncurling their toes..... ‘


Oh I forgot about William and Catherine’s engagement last night. Yes, Meghan out in full PR force for wanting to push the Cambridge’s off the front pages. Sad and oh so desperate. 🙄 She has to be centre stage. 🤩

The press should ignore the Sussex’s; it would drive Meghan demented. 🤪
buckyballs said…
These pictures and weird, and so wrong.

The thing is, babies can be unbelievably strong at 8 months. My son was 9lbs at birth, so he was a big lad right from the get-go, and there's no way I would have been able to lug him around like that. You could hold him only for as long as he wanted to be held. After that, he'd wrestle and push so hard he would have to go in his buggy.

Where's Archie's buggy?
Sandie said…
I don't know that much about babies, so perhaps the folk here could help me out. At 8.5 months would not a child be interested in the environment? I can understand carrying a newborn like that, but at what age would it be important for a baby to have interaction with you (i.e. hold baby higher up even if it does interfere with the perfect shot of your face), and at what age would a baby be interested in the environment (you're talking to the baby and pointing out the trees and talking to it)? I would hold the baby higher up and in a way that it could look around and be talking to it about the trees and the sky ...

I think that Harry does know that she wants the attention and she wants to be photographed, but she wants 100% control of it. It is obvious that she called the paps and staged the photographs taken and published.

I wonder at what stage he will realise that she is not actually interested in female empowerment, the environment, poverty, and so on. They are popular woke issues and great opportunities for publicity. What she is really interested in is travel (elite travel), food, wine and fashion .. and appearing at popular events with famous people to get those photographs.

Did you see that Peter Phillips is advertising milk in some eastern country? Welcome to your future Harry!
Sandie said…
@buckyballs: 'The thing is, babies can be unbelievably strong at 8 months. My son was 9lbs at birth, so he was a big lad right from the get-go, and there's no way I would have been able to lug him around like that. You could hold him only for as long as he wanted to be held. After that, he'd wrestle and push so hard he would have to go in his buggy.'

Yes. The photographs of the Cambridge children round about that age ... they're waving their arms and wriggling. Archie just hangs there. And the photos from the side where she is looking down at the kid, you can see he is not looking up at her. There is no interaction. That poor child is being used as a photo op!
Ava C said…
@ Duty calls

Your post made me feel MUCH better. She could have been in Buckingham Palace in yet another new dress costing a fortune. Instead she's an apparently negligent mother hiking in the woods. I think at this rate the bodyguards will be to protect the public from her rather than the other way around.
wastingtime said…
@Raspberry Ruffle
So you agree the number plates are yellow then? I don't think they photoshopped a car!!!
There are pap's in the Uk, if you phone them.
lizzie said…
@Buckyballs wrote

"The thing is, babies can be unbelievably strong at 8 months. My son was 9lbs at birth, so he was a big lad right from the get-go, and there's no way I would have been able to lug him around like that."

Well, in SA when Archie was FOUR months younger he certainly was thrashing about when in M's lap "meeting" Tutu. But he hung like a limp rag other times. And supposedly slept 11 hours straight to get to SA. Odd.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Sandie, a baby would usually become interested in its environment around 5 months. So Archie (at supposedly eight months) should definitely be interested in the outside world by now.
Also, I used a similar baby carrier for my children on a daily basis and I had to stop carrying them that way by six months, as they had become too heavy by then. And I'm six feet tall. So for someone as petite as Meghan to be carrying an unusually large eight-month-old by one strap and walking two dogs at the same time is quite a feat.

Ròn said…
@Rasberry Ruffle - and not just an ordinary engagement . PW's first solo State occasion. And it was reported that the brothers have made up !
I've been holding on to the belief that there is an actual baby that came OUT of Meghan herself. I've also believed that MM is just a slightly batty and awkward girl. But these pics are going to go down in history as the moment when the tide turned against them. So wierd this whole scenario?

How can anyone defend her holding this baby like this?? She is nearly strangling him! And the dogs , man they look sad and uninterested. Since when do dogs not care about being outside? I wish the video was clearer so we could see the PPOs facial reactions.
none said…
A Narc's Daughter said...

At some point, and I believe that point is getting closer, I'm going to seriously consider the Harry & Meghan story as an intelligence op. The entire story is fake.

Agree. These hiking pictures and video have pushed things to a new level. Even the strongest Harkle supporters can now see with their own eyes that something strange is going on.
@ron, ‘and not just an ordinary engagement . PW's first solo State occasion. And it was reported that the brothers have made up !’

Argh, it’s going to get so much worse!! 😩Neither Meghan or Harry have a leg to stand on now regarding their and Archie’s privacy. The tied has to turn unfavourable against them now with their wailing. 😏
Meghan is so superficial and impatient that she she grabbed a sleeping baby and ran out of the house (after spending hours infront of the mirror getting her plait under the beanie just right. She probably doesn't carry him around in the Bjorn and it's adjusted to someone else's body type (Harry, Nanny, the burly RPO) certain someone taller. She is so giddy with excitement that she doesn't notice the weight of the baby and holding two dog leashes makes a super awkward walking pose.

The video is odd too. When she turns around she certainly says something to the PPOs behind her. Asking them is this ok, is that the permissible boundary line that she has been allowed to walk to and she is confirming that?

The dogs look sad because their leashes we're just handed over to Meghan before the paps started clicking and they are not used to her, or have been shouted into submission.

But the smile!! Oh God it's so cringy. I'm embarrassed for her! She has clearly forgotten the art of pap walking while she was in London. Probably one of the reasons she was have night terrors and anxiety. Good that her brave warrior of her husband got her out of the toxic non-pappy royal world.
Ilona said…
The times that I have said that I was not going to comment again ...!! Yet I cannot stop myself. The lady looks absolutely ridiculous in that photo opportunity (!!) while walking baby and dogs. One could scream at the absurdity of it all.

That cannot be a real baby ... She would have to hunch her shoulders under such a weight. Then again she is very strong with all that yoga and pilates and blah blah blah ...

As for the men following her, why do they HAVE to be PROs? If she is doing her own promotion they could have been just paid minders for the photo-shoot and the dogs could well be hired for the occasion, too.

As many of you have already said she is truly sick but who dares tell her to seek medical attention?
She is just doing this for entertainment purposes only. A huge FU to the UK. She will cause drama to get click bait as often as possible, and guaranteed on days when the Cambridges have a function to attend. She is SO predictable.
@Ilona

Re. The men behind her being paid minders. My first thought was also that these two men don't look very professional if in case they are her protection officers. So maybe she did hire them? Firstly, anyone can see they are not doing their job of protecting very well. Their body language is also off, like they are either not interested or don't see this as a threat. Now, if it is an unexpected pap turning up out of the blue on just a regular walk then they should have been alert, miffed, trying to spot the picture taking. But they seem casual and unbothered like they are just two regular dudes taking a stroll in a park.

They also have a beer gut. 😜 But I didn't want to body shame an already overworked RPO. (Looks like I did though. Oops. I pulled a Meg! 😝
Ilona said…
@Alice, Surrey James, well said!!!

I cannot accept that these two men are working on behalf of the BRF or that they remotely belong to the Scotland Yard. They look so sloppy!

The whole incident is staged and if you think that it is for "promotional" reasons then the director is pants!!! I read somewhere that MM was even eager to direct a film or such "grand design" - well, I don't see anyone in their right mind hiring her.
SwampWoman said…
I wonder if the dogs are sedated. Those are very unhappy-looking dogs. My dogs, when out on a walk, are prancing along with their ears at alert (as alert as they can manage because they are floppy-eared dogs) and tails waving happily in the air. Those dogs look like they are praying to the Great Dog Spirit Across the Rainbow Trail to make it stop now.

Fairy Crocodile said…
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Fairy Crocodile said…
The latest pcs of her with the kid made me chilled. When I started criticizing her behavior I was assuming she was a normal person and should be able to see the consequences of her actions.

Now I am not sure she is normal or even narcissistic. She shows no remorse causing huge distress to three elderly people, breaking apart a family, insulting the whole country and facilitating racial divisions. On the contrary, she is thriving on it.

I am no doctor but she may have a serious mental disorder which is worse than narcissism. If she was living next to me I would seriously consider moving. It is not funny any more.
IEschew said…
@Ilona, agree. The guy on the left/Meg’s right looks to be the same dude who was in the front seat with her at the airport, with whom she was papped making “friendly conversation.” No idea how normal that is with the RPOs.

Today show reporter (not Keir Simmons this time) just made the point that they’ve left behind the UK protections against pap photos in private life and with kids, drawing contrast between these photos with the total lack of photos of M walking dogs or Archie in Windsor. Does that feed M’s agenda or is she so totally gone that her sole objective is to outshine the Cambridges?

Again, I really have no idea. It’s all bonkers. Such a risky move for the RF to sit on any story that affects a child. I get plausible deniability, but if there is a real baby who is not being cared for by a sane, responsible adult, public forgiveness will be scant. If I were a Brit, I think that would be my red line.

What’s the feasibility of making any public security funds contingent on IRS records and psych evals, LOL?
IEschew said…
On my previous: Is she perhaps challenging the RF to out with it???!
none said…
Security does look lax. I thought the reason Harry gave for walking away from the Royal life and the UK was to protect his family?
NeutralObserver said…
@FrenchieLiv,
"I feel for Archie. It won't be easy but I hope he will be able to become a good and kind person although his parents are so self-absorbed."

That's why I gave a shout out to Roger Hargreaves in an earlier post. HIs cute little books teach toddlers about character. Archie won't be learning any of that from his parents.
Duty calls said…
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SwampWoman said…
IEschew: On my previous: Is she perhaps challenging the RF to out with it???!

Looks like, but I'm not that fluent in crazy (although I have worked with people that speak it as a native language).
Anonymous said…
Ugh, seeing her gormless grin really chaps my butt. She sets up a pap shot using "her" dogs and "baby" as props, timed just right to interfere with W&K hosting the African leaders reception, the first time they had been asked to do something at this level by the queen. MEgain is just a horrid person. And I don't believe that is an actual baby. Or if it is, she dosed him with Benadryl before taking him out on a "walk."

The doggos are heartbreaking. In all of the photos they look so listless. Dogs of those breeds should be bouncing around. We had a beagle growing up, and he was crazy. Heck, I have two Pekingese and a Pomeranian, and they go NUTS on their leashes.

I think she's going to find that people will lose interest in her and Harry very quickly. And I think they have a VERY short sell-by date in the USA. She may think she'll be able to come here and play the Lady of the Manor, but that will NOT go over well here. We don't have titles in this country, and I don't know of a single person who wants to change that. I like reading about royalty, but I don't want them living here in the USA.
@Ilona said MM apparently wants to direct a movie, maybe??

Well, I say let her! If she wants to direct a movie, may she get one. If she wants to act in a movie, may she get one. Let's get it done with already and make this carry woman's dream happen. Let us let her live dream. She has been hustling too much just to see herself in a blockbuster.

Plus, at least the world will get proof that she is completely devoid of any actual talent.
DogsMatter said…
@poppycock: IEschew, another jewel from the polo match:


Thank you for that pic Poppy! That was my absolute favorite!! I've been searching for it!!
Jen said…
@Holly Agree. These hiking pictures and video have pushed things to a new level. Even the strongest Harkle supporters can now see with their own eyes that something strange is going on.

Nope, her supporters on the DM are commenting that she looks happy. They don't even seem to SEE how the baby is not being supported properly. It's really quite alarming how truly blind people are to her faults.
buckyballs said…
@Jen "It's really quite alarming how truly blind people are to her faults."

Bots, yes. People, no.
Jen said…
@Buckyball....I hope they are bots. I don't want to believe that there are THIS many stupid people who don't see her for what she is. If they aren't bots, then they really haven't been paying attention.
Hikari said…
Somewhat shoved on the backburner in the last week is Rachel's (I will no longer use the name she prefers to call herself) ongoing lawsuit against the Mail. I'm questioning why it continues to print the ridiculous photos and stories coming out of Rachel's camp. (Who is her 'camp' these days? Just Herself, a computer and a bottle of the Tig? Her 'security detail' looks, as someone else noted, like a couple of Bosnian thugs-for-hire that she picked up at the harbor. A Royal protection officer wouldn't be jawing away on his phone while on duty, would he?--unless he is on the blower to the RF to give the Palace a running commentary on her berserk behavior.

A lot of people are castigating the Queen and Charles for being too soft and generous with this pair in giving them anything whatsoever beyond a forced march to the Tower of London. But we can see with our own eyes (and hear for ourselves via Harry's 'farewell (FU Granny!) speech) that these two will not be dominating the celebrity world with their woke greatness and cashing in hand over fist. They are imploding on the world stage. HM gave them a Spring 2020 deadline to stop using HRHs. Why 'spring' and not 'immediately'? Because the divorce seems inevitable before summer hits. Hence Rachel's desperate ploy gamboling in the woods with a doll. And MERCHING, too. Who wants that baby snugli, not that we can even see it?

Also, in the 2.5 years we've seen Rachel in all kinds of *interesting* get-ups, have we *ever* known her to braid her hair? Does she really think a change in hairstyle is going to blow the Duchess of Cambridge in her knock-out red dress off the style list in her favor?

"Reevaluating in a year" is code for "In one year, we hope to have Harry back with us. Hopefully this nonsense will be over by Royal Ascot and not tank the entire summer."

That's a best-case scenario. Worst case, I don't even want to write it. Let's see if Harry survives til his next birthday.
octobergirl said…
From the Sun: Harry and Meghan threaten legal action over Canada paparazzi shots.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have issued a warning over continued harassment by paparazzi photographers as they start their new life in Canada out of the spotlight.

It comes after images of Meghan were published in the media showing her taking a stroll through a public park on Vancouver Island.
https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-threaten-legal-action-over-canada-paparazzi-shots-11914112

Oh, please. Those photographers didn't just decide to take a stroll through Horth Hill park. She called them and the Harkles are trying to deflect from that fact.
Or this was all a twisted ploy to gaslighting Harry yet again. (Because how dare he leave her alone and extend his stay in London with that toxic family!!)
KCM1212 said…
Thanks to all who are posting from behind paywalls, and everyone who has contributed insights.

I agree with @camper that Harry may have put the kibosh on pap pictures of Archie. Which "forced" smirks into using a doll. It may also explain Harry's demeanor when deplaning. He would have read about her antics (and the commentary ) on the plane. She could explain it all as a "joke", which would also cover her stupid grin at the camera.

And Harry, the dolt, would fall for that.

I'll bet the reunion was a bit chilly. She didn't bother to pick him up (more devaluation) since he didn't bring her everything she wanted, and he would be angry at the pap walks.

I have a question about the Peter Philips milk thing. Why isn't there not outrage? He is clearly trading on the RF for money.
Hikari said…
So Harry's been back in Canada for 5 whole minutes and she's already got him listed on another legal action. Check.

Keep going, Rachel. The men in the white coats will be coming to take you away (presuming that MI6 can find out where you actually are) any day now. Just keep going. Then there's that little matter of your dad gearing up to testify against you in your harebrained suit against one of the largest media empires in Britain. Perhaps your very good (ex) pal Piers Morgan will be called to testify as well. He is, as I'm sure you recall, a Daily Mail employee. What exactly did you try to hustle with him on that 'drinks' date? I'm sure he's eager to spill the tea, dear. Not to mention all the tea dear Daddy has on you.

Its name is Karma, and it's coming for you, Rachel. Good luck getting a job at the drive-thru at Tim Horton's by the time all your chickens have come home to roost.
octobergirl said…
@Alice, Surrey James I've thought about that. She can't have been happy about the dinners and pub outings with his old friends , either. Family and friends would be considered "bad influences" to Markle.
NeutralObserver said…
So many good comments, can't keep up.

Don't know whether hiking baby is a doll or not. We've seen pics of real & very cute babies. The Archie we saw with Bishop Tutu was adorably active & interested in his surroundings. He reached out to the Tutus in a very endearing & lively way. It was normal baby behavior. The poor creature in Megs' baby sling could be sedated (Benadryl, or some other drug as other posters have mentioned), or a doll. Babies are very responsive to stimuli, & move their heads & arms vigorously. Google pics of Catherine holding little 8 month old George in Australia. as they disembark from a plane. She looks as though she can barely keep him from jumping out of her arms, & she's a tall, athletic woman. That's what a normal, healthy 8-9 month old looks like. So doll, or sedated, either way it's very disturbing. Why wasn't the baby in one of those pricey strollers the Harkles were supposedly gifted? So she could hide the baby's face? Very strange.

I also was worried about the dogs. (Would she even sedate them?) Hopefully, they're just elderly & a little overfed.

Oh, & regarding lifelike baby mannequins. I once saw a story on CNN about the motorized mannequins movie & tv crews use when it's impossible to use a real infant for safety reasons, or no suitable real baby can be found. They're amazingly lifelike, make noises & move their body parts, & they cost thousands of dollars. They're often used in birth scenes, because, let's face it, what responsible parent is going to allow a film crew use their tiny fragile newborn?
xxxxx said…
@octobergirl

DM Photos supplied by splash news, known as a paparazzi agency. This is Megs kicking up some dust. She called the paps and now she complains about them.

One half of the demoted duo loves being in the news and with photos even!
IEschew said…
@OctoberGirl, re: The Sun’s report of legal threats:

Oh brother. Harry pitched a fit over the photos and Meg denied denied denied. I sort of figured she had to get that photo op in before H returned. She is not going to be able to stand this new life with H in it 24/7.

H earnestly wants to prove to Granny that this cockamamie plan can work. Meg intentionally messes it up before Day 1 even begins. Bless H’s poor little heart.

Anyone have time to reverse image search her POs today? I do not but can do it later.
PaisleyGirl said…
Perhaps Harry was in on the pap shots as well. Megs arranged it with SplashWorld, profits 50/50 or whatever the arrangement was and M&H pocket the rest, only using a doll instead of the real 'Archie', perhaps by Harry's request for privacy reasons.
I have no idea what pap shots like these would be worth. Do any Nutties have an insight into this?


Anonymous said…
And MERCHING, too. Who wants that baby snugli, not that we can even see it?

Every item listed in the DM article, along with brands. Not even subtle.

Canada casual! Meghan Markle dons her favorite $160 plaid duck boots and $98 Lululemon leggings as she takes her two dogs and baby Archie out for a stroll in a $180 carrier

.. $98 Lululemon 'Align' leggings, a navy zip-up, and a knit beanie, topping off her look with Kamik's $160 'Sienna' boots
She has been wearing the plaid duck boots since December 2016, and they appeared to be her go-to galoshes during her last winter in Toronto
...$38 Madewell beanie
...Archie was bundled up in $25 organic cotton two-piece from H&M, a $45 striped hat from Hudson's Bay



Yes, the DM just happened to have those details after the paps stalked her in the woods. As bloody if.


I hope Her Maj & Chas are having a good laugh over these today as they discuss how "petty" it was for her to try to upstage W&K and their first appearance. I'm sure Wills was happy about it.
octobergirl said…
@Hikari I don't know what the laws are regarding the press in Canada but in the US this lawsuit would be worse than useless.
Argh! Autocorrect! 😩

Tied should have been ‘tide’! 😳
IEschew said…
BTW every teenager and young woman I know wears the same Lululemon leggings and duck boots. They’ve been getting the leggings for 5 years now, and the boots were on all their 2017 and maybe 2018 Christmas lists.

Again: M is basic. If this is her new merching, what a nosedive.

(She is also in need of psychiatric care and I am not making light of that.)
CookieShark said…
How can they have a lawsuit? She's walking TOWARDS the cameras and smiling.

I agree with Nutty's post upthread: Oprah, Beyoncé, Elton John, everyone is seeing the same pics as we are.

Even a few commenters on CB today seemed concerned. Don't worry, they were immediately blasted with the usual "You're a troll" responses.

If I were them, I'd hop to it finding somewhere to stay in CA where it appears they are paying the rent. They appear ridiculous going on about "financial independence" so get a 2-bedroom apartment like the rest of us! Staying at a huge mansion just makes them look like grifters.
NeutralObserver said…
I'm fascinated as to who the Harkles will hang with in their new life. Harry & William seemed to pal around with a lot of Hooray Henrys, or what we Americans call frat boys, pre marriage & fatherhood. One of them, Guy Pelly, married a wealthy American southern belle, & is a godfather to Louis. (See DM link below.) Can't think Megs would find that sort of company appealing. The Tatler hatchet job on Megs last year mentioned that Megs didn't seem interested in befriending young people in Harry's social set, male or female. That made my ears prick up. I had to move between various financial capitals in Europe & Asia with my husband when we were first married. The wives of my husband's colleagues were a valuable resource to me. Our husband's stressful careers were instant bonding glue. You could get the skinny from them. If Megs were interested in staying in the UK, being a working royal, she was passing up a chance for both emotional support & practical advice. What arrogance to think she's such a quick study she could learn to be a royal instantaneously.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5935483/Guy-Pelly-took-blame-Harrys-teenage-drug-taking-royal-godfather.html
Hikari said…
>>>Harry may have put the kibosh on pap pictures of Archie. Which "forced" smirks into using a doll.<<<

I'm afraid I can't picture Harry possessing enough agency and assertiveness in his marriage to put the kibosh on anything or 'force' Rachel to do anything. She does what she likes and tells him what to do. Her use of the doll is Rachel gloating that *she* controls the narrative of Archie and there's nothing anybody, least of all her husband, can do about it.

Also, more like as not, she does not have any live baby. Otherwise, she could have *really* taken the wind out of William's sails with a cute video of Archie in his stroller, playing with the dogs. Not having an animate kid in her possession somewhat limits her options to the inert kind.


>>>It may also explain Harry's demeanor when deplaning.<<<

Do you mean that incredibly fuzzy photo of a guy in a knit cap that sorta looks like Harry walking on the asphalt? Over on Skippy's blog they were having a right old larf about that, since Skippy (who is convinced Rachel reads her stuff) had put in a *specific request* to see a pic of Harry deplaning on the tarmac earlier in the day, and *et voila*, there it is!!

I admittedly do not fly often, but I have been in Vancouver airport, which is ginormous. Harry was arriving on a transatlantic/transcontinental flight of some 9+ hours into one of the largest airports in North America. It would have been a very large plane, and he is still, despite the demotion, a VIP. Yet, here he is, rather forlornly, trailing along on the tarmac *all by his lonesome*. Not another soul in sight. Wouldn't his protection officer be in the shot, too? Also, VIP or no, he'd still have to go through formalities at the international arrivals terminal, customs and whatnot. No longer Royal, you see, and certainly not on official Crown business.

A large plane would pull up to a gate and have its passengers disembark down a skyway. This is not 1953 in Nairobi. I had to walk on the tarmac once--boarding a puddle jumper from Portland to Seattle. Our plane seated about 35 or so. One attendant. We hit turbulence and I thought we might go down before we ever reached the big plane.

So I call bollocks and zippity-doo-dah on the 'deplaning' photo.

>>>I'll bet the reunion was a bit chilly. She didn't bother to pick him up (more devaluation) since he didn't bring her everything she wanted, and he would be angry at the pap walks.<<<

Yes, Haz is now facing up to the reality that he is no longer as precious to Rachel as her Pilates instructor and not entitled to the same perks such as a ride from the airport.

Of course, if Rach was not actually at Harry's destination--or same country, even--her absence would be explained. I'm still not convinced that she is in Canada. A number of commentators point to the UK-style license plates in the 'park' and the absence of snow, which would be curious since they've had record snowfalls in Victoria since last week. Yet there is no snow to speak of in the 'hike' photos.

I hope to God Above, in Whom I believe, that Rachel does not have custody of any living children or dogs. I'm surprised she didn't show us stuffed pooches on that 'walk'. I wouldn't put it past her. It is easier to hire rental dogs for photo shoots than babies. The listlessness of the dogs might be explained by being handed over to a frightening woman they don't actually know. I would not trust Rachel to keep a houseplant alive, never mind feeling loved and nurtured.
Ava C said…
18.5K DM comments on the hiker baby so far. A lot of upset, angry people. I feel so unsettled after that narcissistic stare and then hiker baby. As if Meghan's got some kind of sci-fi direct connection to our brains and keeps turning up the dial.
Fluffy Bunny said…
It has been suggested that Megs has a revenue sharing agreement with Splash. The trail has a gate with a private sign just beyond the pap pics, clearly shown in the video. It appears Megs called for a pap walk and instructed them to stand behind the gate, which I believe is on the property she is staying at and not a random walk in a park. This would also explain the lackadaisical appearance of the RPO's.
Jen said…
I imagine she wasn't at the Airport to pick up Haz because Archie was sleeping (insert eye roll) and she couldn't leave the poor lad.

I am not surprised that there's a suit against the paps in Canada. One has to wonder if one could be considered "upset" when they're smiling like a cat that ate the canary? I've seen some actual celebrities who aren't too happy to being snapped, and they're faces look a lot stormier than Megs did. She looked pretty happy with herself.
Hikari said…
@Oct

(My birthday's in October, too. Great month for a birthday!)

>>>@Hikari I don't know what the laws are regarding the press in Canada but in the US this lawsuit would be worse than useless.<<<

Indeed. I think it will be tossed out in Canada too, since Rachel hired the 'intrusive papps' her very self. Does she look like she's surprised/upset/intruded upon as she makes a beeline straight for the lenses with her dangling bebe and two comatose-seeming doggos?

This is the Britney moment I have been waiting for. Maybe next time Rach will strip off all her clothes to gambol in the woods and then complain her privacy is breached.

This is all she knows how to do . . manipulate reality through pictures. There's no 'There' there. But in the last two years we have seen increasing escalation of her recklessness and sloppiness in execution. Back when she was arranging photo shoots of her food on Instagram, it wasn't a big deal. The Tig was her natural level. She reached for the sun and it scorched her, because she really can't do anything well. There is no interior authentic self to draw upon--it is all a construct. Rachel is like a Stepford Wife who's learned to push her own buttons and has gotten it into her artificial brain that she's real. She is Rachel Meghan 2000 (like HAL, only she's capable of moving around in space and time.)

(I've been busy and just lurking for a while. Thank you for keeping things going, Nutty & friends!)

@Texshan, I've had dogs all my life, including beagles and labs, and I've dog sat long-term for other breeds. I myself have 2 labs again right now(9 and 7). When I saw the photo with the 2 dogs, I felt so sad. My first thought was that they look cowed and are afraid of her. A lab would be excited to be outside(even at 9 years old), same with a beagle. Walkies is the highlight of their day. I don't see any white around the lab's muzzle, so it likely isn't that old. She is also barely holding those leashes-risky for 2 dogs that would perk up and/or chase after a squirrel or chipmunk in a flash. It's upsetting. Dogs don't deserve to have her inflicted on them. I remember when she visited the animal shelter in the UK-you could tell the dog didn't like her and wanted away. They can tell.

I won't even go into the "baby". Cheers, y'all.
Ava C said…
New DM article on how Prince Charles would fund the Sussexes. Yet again drawing attention to the blurred line between public and private assets for the Duchy of Cornwall. The public are on to this now, like a terrier with a rat. Just what Charles has tried to avoid all these years.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7911003/Charles-use-multi-million-pound-legacy-George-VI-fund-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html

I agree with earlier Nutties who wrote about many people in the Duchy leading hard working lives, paying their rents to support that pair. There was a man on that recent Duchy documentary whose shoemaking business burned down and was pathetically grateful about receiving £2K from the Duchy to save his livelihood. £2K to save a man's business compared to £90K for a beige maternity caftan.
KCM1212 said…
@hikari

Ha! I can see her dragging along a pair of stuffed dogs on wheels, laughing to herself at how clever she is!
none said…
About those Harry deplaning pictures. A DM caption reads...

"Harry arrives at Vancouver Airport earlier yesterday, after travelling from London Heathrow on a British Airways flight."

The picture shows Harry and passengers exiting the plane down 6 or 7 steps. Are we to believe that British Airways cross-Atlantic flights are made with planes this small?
Sandie said…
@holly: 'The picture shows Harry and passengers exiting the plane down 6 or 7 steps. Are we to believe that British Airways cross-Atlantic flights are made with planes this small?'

I think the BA flight was to Montreal. He then caught a connecting flight to Vancouver and the photograph is of him leaving that plane.
Hikari said…
@Paisley

>>>Perhaps Harry was in on the pap shots as well. Megs arranged it with SplashWorld, profits 50/50 or whatever the arrangement was and M&H pocket the rest . . .<<<

Stretching our minds back to a year ago (Gosh, that seems so long ago) . . Haz's first in a series of salvos against the intrusive media . the lawsuit he filed agains *Splash News* for a helicopter shot of 'their rented property in the Cotswolds'. Remember that?

Same company as took the shots yesterday. Meg's preferred papp walk company, as their logo is all over 'her candid photos'.

What kind of sleazy game is this? Celebrity hires photography firm to take pictures and tells photography firm when, where and exactly what type of pictures to take. Pictures are duly published, gleaning the celebrity some temporary attention. Then some time later (record-breaking, in this case, not even 24 hours) Celebrity accuses the firm *he/she expressly hired* of 'breaching their privacy' and takes outlet to court.

What's in it for Splash News to keep doing this? Harry and Rachel are incredibly litigious for two 'celebrities' who do nothing besides get their photos taken and give asinine statements to papers. They yell about wanting to have a private life, but without media attention they do not exist or have any clue about how to live 'a private life'.

My question for all these media firms that are catering to this duo's delusions of importance--and that is what they are--delusions . . WHY?? They are only going to waste your time and money with these baseless lawsuits.
KCM1212 said…
Omg.....
"Harry and Meghan's lawyers also highlighted serious safety concerns about how the paparazzi had been driving in Canada "

https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-threaten-legal-action-over-canada-paparazzi-shots-11914112.

And since Harry wasn't there to see this driving, smirks had to "report" it to him, using every trigger word in her vocabulary. Utterly cruel manipulation!

Please, somebody take them to court to prove she set it up!!
none said…
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@Hikari, maybe that's all part of the deal-the Harkles pay enough to cover the lawsuit fees. All part of the game. "We're going to "sue" you, but don't worry, we are paying you enough to cover those fees." It's part of the package deal. Splash gets PR(wow they got her, right, so they must be good at finding celebs), and the Harkles get "Oooo they are following us, we're so scared, we need our security covered."
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Hikari said…
>>>>Archie was bundled up in $25 organic cotton two-piece from H&M, a $45 striped hat from Hudson's Bay<<<

H&M again, sponsors of the BabySussex South African tour.

Hey, it's organic cotton, y'all. Because Rachel is, first and foremost, an eco-warrior deeply concerned about the environment. There couldn't be a bigger FU to the Royal Family with the pages of the 'agreement' barely cooled off the printer.

But, as Harry assured a roomful of people representing an AIDS charity, he and Rachel are deeply committed to a lifetime of service . . . . (to themselves)

********

In years to come, the books and articles and documentaries will make for interesting reading in hindsight, but we are living this incredible adventure right now. Harry's mental issues are somewhat understandable, and mostly contained until he hitched his wagon to hers. But her . . how does such a blatantly insane woman still get the world to dance to her tune? Publish her picture over and over? It's done with no sense of irony.

Let's see what happens in the DM lawsuit. Maybe the game is 'let's play along with her ravenous Narcissism til then', then we will delight in eating her alive in her lies." Because if not, the Daily Mail has a weirdly symbiotic and masochistic relationship with its own adversary.

Question to ponder: now that Rach and H. are out of the Firm, will the Palace be obligated to provide its own lawyers for her defense? I shouldn't think so. Rach will have to dig deep into Harry's trust fund to buy her own.

These two make the Duke and Duchess of Windsor look classy and whip-smart.
Ian's Girl said…
I've been reading the DM longer than most of you have probably been alive, and I had no idea that those "get the look" bits were merching things. Do the celebs themselves really send all that info in for a cut? Have I not seem Catherine's outfits in them a hundred times over?


Or with her is it more just a "the Duchess is wearing Zara again" type thing?
Camper said…
I can’t believe the this is a story in The Sun

'TOWER OF STRENGTH' Prince Harry ‘relying on Megxit advice from Meghan Markle’s mum’ in absence of his own mother.

Apparently they are so close and have been for ages, because if you didn’t know, his own mother died and he’s not had a mother figure to go to for advice.

Included in the story is that he’s not stepping back from work for military veterans! He doesn’t have to talk the company line anymore! Wonder if Buck Palais has got Harry’s memo on that one?

Sandie said…
Harry's speech?

1. He is very self-absorbed. He used a charity event for children in Africa living with HIV/AIDS to talk about his tawdry personal (self-inflicted) drama.

2. He did not get the deal they wanted as set out in their personal manifesto. He is blaming his family for that and angry with them, because him and Megsy do not have a Plan B, and even Plan A was a fantasy with no actuals in place.

3. Subconsciously, cutting himself off from his family and life is hurting him a lot.

4. He is still completely deluded abut Megsy. The tarot readers have seen that when she dumps him he is going to be completely gutted, blaming the media, the public, his family, and it is going to take a lot of introspection for him to see the truth (if he ever does get to that state).

She really is a piece of work isn't she?
pi said…
@Fairy Crocodile

Now I am not sure she is normal or even narcissistic. She shows no remorse causing huge distress to three elderly people, breaking apart a family, insulting the whole country and facilitating racial divisions. On the contrary, she is thriving on it.

Indeed. She can have more than one personality disorder. I think she also thrives on putting one over on others. Her inappropriate smirking in the hiking photos reminds me of "duping delight" where someone manipulative takes pleasure in deceiving others. It's a real tell with psychopaths, for instance.

The shot that includes the child's face convinces me it's a doll. Pale, without expression, and....just not alive. We all are creeped out because we're dealing with the interior world of a disordered individual externalised. Any normal person would be creeped out, and that feeling is a solid red flag for us, something to trust.
Camper said…
@Ians Girl

I never used to bother looking at all the clothes in those boxes as part of the story, totally not interested, but with Kate it was never an instant thing. Sometimes you’d read the story online and then a while later they’d add the box with details of what she was wearing. Normally a British designer/high street item, easy to find and price up I guess.

I think the difference with Markle is that via Meghan’s Mirror, not that I’ve looked at it and someone can probably readily correct me, her wardrobe was often on their page at the exact time she was arriving at an event. So either they’re psychic or tipped off. Plus did she get a percentage of any sales?

Now as a Brit I’ve actually got no problem any member of the Royal family wearing British designers and that getting mentioned in the press. After all they are showcasing something from a U.K. designer/shop, so adding to our countries coffers.


LavenderToast said…
@Sandie said:

"4. He is still completely deluded abut Megsy. The tarot readers have seen that when she dumps him he is going to be completely gutted, blaming the media, the public, his family, and it is going to take a lot of introspection for him to see the truth (if he ever does get to that state)."

I have to admit I have not sought out what taro card readers say about the situation because it has not been 'my thing' per se, but now I Am Interested in what they say/predict...could you share what you found insightful from them (as I couldn't begin to know which one to learn from).

Thankyou, And thank you for anyone else to contribute on this.
SoCal Karma said…
I've read comments about how the American media will be fawning over Harry and how the Americans don't understand the royal family. This may be so. But the American public does understand that here is a man with plenty of money and privilege, and had more than ample opportunity to make something of himself, who does nothing but whine and complain about his poor lot in life. Yeah, we don't want to hear it. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and grow a pair. Learn how to do something productive.

Americans are tired of the default label of "racist" every time we disagree with bad behavior/manners. These two morons will probably pay off People and TMZ to give them positive spin, but by and large the public isn't going to care about these two layabouts preaching to us about thriving not surviving, and how much they need another vacation. They'll be a hot topic for a few months (and not in a positive way) then they'll just be another piece of fodder in the tabloids.

Blows my ever-loving mind how someone can come from a family with every opportunity in the world and grow up to be so useless. He's going to be 36 this year. Have some self-respect! You're a Grade A mooch who has the audacity to complain about your life. GET OVER YOURSELF!
HappyDays said…
New Blind Gossip item.
See: Shut Down the Crisis
Ian's Girl said…
@Camper Thank you! I have only ever given them a passing glance, as in, I've noticed they were there, but never really paid much attention. ( My style, or lack thereof, not being the kind of thing that is likely to catch the attention of international publications, ha!)
luxem said…
I would think that Ergo would not want Rach's use of the baby carrier to be the lasting impression people have of their product. Archie is too big, not strapped in correctly and she has one shoulder off in an unsafe manner. I really hope they contact DM with appropriately modeled pics of how to use. I remember Ryan Reynolds got a lot of flak for not carrying one of his kids properly in a carrier, though not sure which brand it was.
Miggy said…
"Sussex Royal Instagram Scam - Are you Magically Following them too?"

New video from Murky Meg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QauAPc8dItc

abbyh said…

Thank you for the input on is it real. I kept looking at the whole thing and thinking: am I not really seeing what I ought to be seeing? Besides, wasn't there some news tidbit about how interested the baby was at that age at the Canadian woods?

My personal thoughts are that she doesn't have access to the real baby (as in prior video in SA) so she takes this out to yank chains and get herself out there. Could well be ours and then again, it could be the BRF regarding some detail about the baby that we all are not privy to.

H homecoming - hmm, wonder how that went?

SwampWoman - not fluent in crazy - made me laugh. Thanks, needed that.

lucy said…
LMAO! @ 10:43 mark of Yankee Wally's latest video
pi said…
@ Hikari

Harry ultimately landed on the Island. These are pics from that deplaning; he was flying WestJet after the 747 to Vancouver. But here's the kicker from the DM:

Officials at the airport closed the third-floor public viewing area shortly before he landed. The duke was then driven the last couple of miles in a silver SUV to the £11million oceanside home for an emotional family reunion.

Talk about being treated "royally" even without the HRH. Nothing has changed. I wonder if it really will.
none said…
@Miggy. Interesting video. This sort of thing convinces me that there is no way the Harkles are running this whole PR scam (or whatever it is) on their own.
Miggy said…
@holly - I agree!

@pi, ‘Talk about being treated "royally" even without the HRH. Nothing has changed. I wonder if it really will. ‘

He’s still a working royal until Spring, so until then he will have all the privileges etc. It will be interesting to see what exactly changes when he’s a non-royal. 🥴
Hikari said…
Current thought is that the "papp walk" was staged on the island property where they are staying, which boasts a lot of wooded area. Hmm. Well, that might explain a few 'discrepencies' like:

1. The lack of visible snow. Rachel could have had these pictures taken at any time in the last month.

2. The lackadaisical attitude of her security, trailing far in the back, on the phone, etc. If Rach is essentially taking a stroll around the back yard. That isolated property has no nearby neighbors at all.

3. Possibly UK license plates on the visible cars, if the RPOs imported their own vehicles.

4. The lack of any other visible walkers in 'park' and half-assed way she flung the baby carrier on. A few steps in the yard do not require the same diligence as an extended outing in public.

She's had nothing to do these last 8 weeks but concoct schemes like this.

*********

At some point her facade of cards will have all crashed down. Actually I hope she *does* get a one-hour sit-down with Oprah or Gayle--an entire program devoted to her. Let's see her live, and she if she can hold it together for an extended period. Look for a Tom Cruise Jumping the Sofa moment.

I think she's decompressed too far to pull herself back into the semblance of sanity. I look forward to seeing her lose her $%@* on TV. I think that's what it's going to take. Heavily staged still photos still leave a bit of room for doubt that what we are seeing isn't real.
KCM1212 said…
Interesting video, Miggy. Apparently a number of people who don't follow Sussex Royal have discovered they are following them without having asked to follow.

Interesting if true. Sure helps to explain their numbers jump ( aside from the bots)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QauAPc8dItc
@HappyDays, ‘New Blind Gossip item. See: Shut Down the Crisis’.

Horrid, just horrid. 😣I hope it goes up in flames for all of them. The royal family may have one almighty mess that comes back and haunts them forever. They’ve played a terrible hand in a game where a far bigger mess could be their downfall. 😔
@Sandie, ‘The tarot readers have seen that when she dumps him ‘


Are any of the tarot card readers on YouTube that I can watch? 🙂
SwampWoman said…
Pi said: Officials at the airport closed the third-floor public viewing area shortly before he landed. The duke was then driven the last couple of miles in a silver SUV to the £11million oceanside home for an emotional family reunion.


Oh, I just bet it was emotional. Crazy people get REALLY emotional when thwarted. I would have given her a much longer cooling-off period. Maybe he really does have a low IQ.
Sandie said…
@Lavender Toast:

Tarot readings ... they have been accurate about most of what has happened. Followers have been saying that this break from the BRF reads like the divorce that they have been predicting for many months. Nope, they say, they still see separation and divorce in the marriage.

One very accurate tarot guru saw that Megsy was done with the BRF just after the South African tour and predicted that she was going to separate herself from them.

Harry is throwing everything away and throwing himself under the bus to try and keep her. The ironic thing is that the marriage is not in a good space and he has been distant for quite a while now. He is stubborn though and will not walk away from the marriage and do increasingly desperate things to make her happy and become more unhappy himself.

The timeline is much shorter than what some commentators have been predicting in the media (up to another 5 years being mentioned by some commentators). Tarot readers say that they will hide the separation for as long as possible, but rumours are going to start circulating within the next few months (tarot readers are sharing a time line while admitting that they are not sure of the accuracy of their methods and so are sharing so everyone can learn about using the tarot for such a purpose).

What else have they seen?

1. Harry will be gutted and go off somewhere to lick his wounds (he will not see the light and end the marriage; he will be dumped). He will leave divorce negotiations to the lawyers.

2. If Harry does some honest introspection, he will learn and grow (grow up) from this experience and there will be a second, good marriage.

3. Megsy is going to be fine and prosper (but not the global superstar billionaire that she is fantasising about). There is another marriage for her.

4. A second baby for the Sussexes would delay the separation and divorce but not stop it. The most reliable tarot reader has seen that a second baby is very unlikely. The Archie conception, pregnancy and birth was a lot more difficult and stressful than she showed and she is reluctant to put herself through that again.

5. Although they will get joint custody for Archie, the kid will end up spending most of his time with Harry. Megsy is not a natural mother. She will use Archie for commercial purposes and although she can be warm and loving to the kid, it is not consistent and she will drop him when she wants to go off and do her own thing (we have already seen this).

6. Contrary to news reports of a reconciliation, it will take years for William to forgive his brother and reconcile. Anything that seems to contradict this is PR. Kate will be ready immediately to embrace Harry and Archie and bring them into her family.

7. The Queen or Charles, or both, will dip into their personal wealth to give Megsy a divorce settlement (see how this sounds like the break from the BRF?). She will demand far more than is reasonable and the whole divorce is going to be very messy (once again, sounds like the break from the BRF).

8. There are some more bombshells coming that will create a media storm.

9. There is a woman that Harry is turning to for comfort and counsel. It is not a romantic relationship. Harry does have a romantic interest in her but she aint having it ... too messy!

10. Harry is drinking (probably beer), although not an alcoholic or a drunk, he is drinking, and he is using some kind of psychedelic drug for recreational purposes. It could be something like too much coffee.

11. To be true to herself, what Megsy really wants is to go back to her Tig days and be an influencer (travel, fashion, food, pithy quotes, and lots of photographs of herself) making money from merching. Realistically, we have seen that she does not work well in a team or with other people, so that is what would suit her best.

The good tarot readers point out that we have free choice. However, none of them see a happy ever after marriage for Harry and Megsy.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

They’ve played a terrible hand in a game where a far bigger mess could be their downfall.

Have you noticed how comments calling for a Republic are now escalating?
SwampWoman said…
I saw the video of PH deplaning. His POs were actually looking around for threats instead of being in the "Will somebody please kidnap this bish because we really don't care!" mode.
Miggy said…
"Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's 24-hour security detail DOES include British police bodyguards - as well as Canadian 'Mounties' - as row over who pays their £3m bill rumbles on."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7912183/Harry-Meghan-Markles-24-hour-security-DOES-include-British-police-bodyguards.html
Glow W said…
Jumping down a bunch of comments, perhaps the DM article has been updated. Harry took the prop plane from Vancouver to Victoria airport so the small plane and deplaning to the tarmac with a few steps is in Victoria.
CookieShark said…
In CA for less than 2 weeks, already a lawsuit.

Sometimes it's suspicious when the same people routinely sue others. At the very least, it's a bad omen for future business partners. They should be wary of working with these 2. Not only will they possibly steal your idea, break a contract, threaten you with a tell-all, they'll just sue you at the end!
@Miggy, I've noticed the increasing comments about a republic. Glad someone else noticed it, too.
SwampWoman said…
One very accurate tarot guru saw that Megsy was done with the BRF just after the South African tour and predicted that she was going to separate herself from them.

To be fair, I think most of us saw that immediately after the SA tour. There was no coming back after that mess.

/I would suggest that we all take up card reading for fun and profit, but I fear I haven't adequate patience or time fo' dat. "Oh, great Swampie, what do the cards say I should do tomorrow?" "How about getting yo' a** out of bed, eating breakfast, and going to work?" "BUT YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT THE CARDS!" Maybe somebody can hypnotize us and we can babble while in an altered state but sleep peacefully simultaneously? I think I'd be down with that.
@Miggy, ‘Have you noticed how comments calling for a Republic are now escalating?’

Goodness yes, I’m a monarchist and if this Blind is true (the others have been), then a republic seems even more certain . The mess is getter bigger, people aren’t stupid, they can see Meghan and Harry not keeping to their part of the deal. They are just going to carry on lying and trading on whatever they can.

The royal family need to be tough and looking at this now....I’m hoping they will get tough, they are dealing with a psychopath with no fear or feeling for others.
Miggy said…
@ConstantGardener33,

If this carries on I'll be joining them.
Anonymous said…
I’ve never believed that there was a real child, and more than ever I’m convinced of this. An average 8-month-old baby is roughly 20 pounds. Now imagine Ms. Markle, who by all accounts is a small woman, carrying four 5-pound sacks of sugar in a carrier. You would have to have BOTH straps of the baby carrier on your shoulders to carry that much weight. I’m NOT tiny and 5 ft 7 in and that would be a strain on me. That is a mannequin she is holding and I bet it weighs around 5 pounds. She has found a way to merch that doll without actually having a real baby, but what is going to happen when that doll approaches the age of where it should be walking? I hate to say this, but she is capable of staging a tragedy and capitalizing on that sort of outpouring of sympathy for years and years. And she and Harry will blame the media, etc. In this case, they must supply her with protection because if she stages something like that, the royal family is done. I honestly believe she is capable of such monumental and grotesque theater. Is Harry in on this farce? I could never figures out his role in this entire fake pregnancy, etc., but after the events of the last few days, I’m definitely feel that Harry has been on this from the beginning. She offered him the opportunity to give both fingers to his family and putting them in a box regarding this fake child. I suspect it was several months before they realized she was faking it, and by that time they couldn’t call her out on it because it would have made them look like they were insane (of course, we know who is REALLY insane in this equation). And Harry forced them to go along with this farce or he would leave the royal family. Unbeknownst to them, they were planning to leave all along. So now I bet they are shopping for a child who is of mixed parentage and is nearly ready to walk. Notice that there are no videos of Archie crawling or any of the NORMAL things a small child at this age would be doing. I don’t count the picture of Harry holding a child who does not look like any of the previous rent-a-babies they produced on the few occasions where they needed a real child. This is an epic fraud, and I think what is really sick about this is that I can see why Ms. Markle’s doing this, but I’m like, wow, Harry, you are even more twisted than your odious wife. You REALLY hate your family, don’t you, bro?
Sandie said…
@Raspberry Ruffle: 'Are any of the tarot card readers on YouTube that I can watch? 🙂'

The interesting ones I follow that have a high degree of accuracy are not on YouTube.
Miggy said…
@Rasberry Ruffle,

The royal family need to be tough and looking at this now....I’m hoping they will get tough, they are dealing with a psychopath with no fear or feeling for others.


They won't. They didn't exactly come out smelling of roses from that 'blind' either - did they?

The article in the DM about Prince Charles' multi-million pound inheritances from King George VI and the Queen Mother was the last straw for me.

All that wealth - yet they expect tax payers to foot security bills for the Harkles.
Glow W said…
Don’t forget we have a Saanich web cam from the garden recycling center. There is no snow today and there was no snow yesterday. It updates every 2 minutes

https://www.saanich.ca/EN/main/community/utilities-garbage/garbage-organics-recycling/garden-recycling-drop-off-webcam.html
Sandie said…
Just my opinion ...

Alcohol and/or drugs are not the cause of the unravelling of Harry. That he is using one or the other or both to cope with his distress is believable.
Hikari said…
@Sandie,

The tarot readers paint too rosy a picture for Harry post-divorce.

His life is essentially over. He will keep on breathing for a while, and he's got enough money to keep up the appearance of still being a big shot--private limos, security, staff--for a while anyway.

But here we have a 35 year old man who hasn't had to do so much as make his own sandwiches in his lifetime, thinking he's going to THRIVE outside of the only existence he's ever known?

Bloody unlikely. At this point, seeing Haz in such rough shape at the very beginning of his 'freedom', I think it's quite possible that he will be dead within 5 years. Death by misadventure (drug OD, reckless/impaired driving, or some sort of extreme sports accident) or flat out will intentionally take his own life. He is not equipped. Rachel *will* dump him--I give it a year tops before the divorce proceedings--only question remaining is how much of his money will she siphon off before she leaves?

Harry was the proverbial lamb to slaughter. Doesn't help that he's willingly throwing his own neck on the slab, under her directive. He is not driving this train. He got on this ride, thought it would be a lark and two fingers up to his detested family, and now he realizes he can't get off til it crashes.

Whenever I feel tempted to feel sorry for Harry, I remind myself that he has demonstrated ZERO lack of love or compassion toward any of his family members. He doesn't love them and has been stuck up his own backside since he was in long pants. The Wales Brothers put on a good show of solidarity for many years, but now I'm thinking that it was all pretty one-sided, with the caring and the batting cleanup coming from William's side. Once he became too busy with life responsibilities to be Harry's primary prop and cheerleader, he was turned upon.

I'm not sure I don't regard him as more odious than Rachel by this point. Both are profoundly broken individuals--warped and twisted in their overweening sense of entitlement--both deprived of their mothers during their formative years, but Harry was given every advantage that Rachel lacked (or believed she lacked) and still he was so easily seduced into betraying everything his family stands for.

Glow W said…
Googling west jet Vancouver to Victoria

Yesterday departed Vancouver at 9:12 pm
Arrived in Victoria at 9:47 pm

There were others. Was this his?

It’s a DeHavilland Canada Dash 8-400 (known as a dash 8) is a turbo prop regional airliner.
SirStinxAlot said…
Does anyone know if H$M are getting to keep the offices at Buckingham palace?? I have not seen any reference to that.
@Miggy,’They won't. They didn't exactly come out smelling of roses from that 'blind' either - did they?

The article in the DM about Prince Charles' multi-million pound inheritances from King George VI and the Queen Mother was the last straw for me.

All that wealth - yet they expect tax payers to foot security bills for the Harkles.’

I agree, and the more I read, the more I want them all gone. 😔They take us for fools. I guess it’s wishful thinking, they have two months to see how Meghan and Harry behave, that staged pap walk by Meghan is just a taste of what’s to come. ☹️
hunter said…
AGAIN I would like to just point out Archie's birthweight was recorded at 7lbs 3oz

This is a strange fact which has forever lodged in my brain and I like to trot it out when people comment on Archificial's size.

People on here are talking about the strength of their 9-lb baby (grown to an 8 mos size) and there's just no way a modest sized baby can gargantua-grow in the way Archie supposedly has.

However - I don't know jack about babies so I could be wrong but I don't think so.
SirStinxAlot said…
Regarding rent-a-baby, you would think they would choose a more attractive child. I think it's real and theirs. She definitely wore padding during the pregnancy.
hunter said…
I'm dying at how many people on this thread, on Twitter, on Skippy - everybody is noticing the dogs look a bit defeated. This is funny.

It's true her calves appear unexpectedly developed, I cannot explain this. I also concur the child doesn't appear to be in a diaper (?!) which I never would have noticed if people hadn't mentioned it.

I'm reluctant to imagine these are photoshopped images on another girl's body (see: her calves) because that seems too complicated (video) and the maniacal grin of hers makes the photos all too believable.

That smile of hers, what a poor choice. She looks delighted with herself.
Fairy Crocodile said…
I read it is not illegal in Canada to take pictures of people in public places. So, even if I believe paps just HAPPENED to be on that muddy walk by pure chance they did nothing wrong. Selling pics may be another matter, however, but these two are idiots if they think they can stop pictures trade by going to courts every time somebody captures them.

People on other blogs also say that you can legally record a conversation in Canada as long as you are a part of it. Imagine opportunities that open up with that.

Harry is in for a big reality shock when is fully out of his golden cocoon. They are fair prey now as far as media is concerned.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

The staged pap walk was too obvious for words, yet they are planning to sue?
Give me strength... :(

There is a person who has commented in the DM from the very beginning of this debacle, with something along the lines of (or including)... "Comedy of the decade."

Well I agree. This is all one big joke - and it's on us!!
QueenWhitby said…
I do believe she is on the estate in Victoria and that is where the photos were likely taken. Most people around here let their dogs run off leash in the wooded trails, that is the whole point of going in to the woods - the dogs can stretch their legs and have a good sniff round. I took off from Vancouver airport yesterday just before Harry landed and there is no snow. We had record snowfall last week that was completely gone two days later due to warmer temps and heavy rainfall. It was actually cold, windy, and rainy yesterday. I cannot fathom why Harry would take a connecting flight from London when there are direct flights available, unless he was trying to fit in around his earlier appearance. I’ve done the YVR-London flight 10 times and never, ever, ever, ever would I consider not flying direct. At 9 hours direct, why would you want to extend that by including a stop over? Ugh. I did have a good look at the private jet hangar as I took off directly over it and did not see any activity there whatsoever fwiw.

Harry’s resignation speech was cringeworthy, you cry wolf too many times and people stop listening.

I’m concerned about the increasing animosity towards the RF, if MM had backers this would be exactly what they wanted wouldn’t it? I’m gravely concerned over the entire situation.
SirStinxAlot said…
Has it occurred to anyone that Archie may be under the influence of some sleeping medication during the pap walks?? It would explain why he is so limp and not struggling when being smothered to Meghan's chest like that. Would not surprise me. It would also explain the "slept 11 hours straight to SA" too. Whenever inconvenience by Archie, just give him a dose of NyQuil or whiskey.
Camper said…
OMG a new exclusive in the Daily Mail

EXCLUSIVE: 'It's the best thing that could ever happen to him!' Meghan tells friends it was her love for Harry that made their new life possible and he'll flourish now, as she insists their spirits were being crushed by royal family

Meghan Markle has been telling her friends that quitting the royal family is the best thing that could ever happen to Prince Harry, a source told DailyMail.com

'She said that like her, his spirit was being crushed and she simply couldn't bare to see him suffer anymore,' the friend added
Meghan also confided that 'it was her love for him that made this possible'

On Monday, Meghan went for a walk with Archie and her dogs on Vancouver Island, Canada, just a few hours before Harry landed in Vancouver
They are in 'no rush' to move out of the $14m mansion they've been using

The friend also said: 'Meghan and Harry are not planning on changing their website or Instagram name... they will keep the Royal part in'
'Meghan says they will always be considered royalty regardless of where they live or what they do'
Sandie said…
Her lawsuit against the media for publishing excerpts of her letter to her father?

Tarot readers see her with a win but a hollow victory as what will be exposed about her will be damaging, and the win will be a technical victory that actually doesn't mean much.

Ultimately, Megsy will never reach the success of the Kardashians or Gwyneth Paltrow with her Goop franchise, but she will have enough success to support herself, and there is a rich husband in her future (post Harry). She thrives as a hustler and there are enough stupid people in the world to support her to make a good living out of hustling and merching and being all over social media as an influencer.

Realistically, we do not need tarot readers to work this out.
hunter said…
RE: Harry's arrival shots.

Hikari said, "This is not 1953 in Nairobi."

100% - the only places you get out of the airplane on the tarmac and walk to a bus or something are usually smaller airports like Orly outside Paris or other smaller international airports. He would have absolutely de-planned via skyway on a flight into Vancouver from the UK. They even have separate skyways for first class I believe.

I don't always believe the imposter rumors (I believe Santa's Hostage Harry was real), but I believe them for the pub dinner in the UK photo-op and the airplane one presumed to be from France I believe, where they only showed "Harry" from a 1/4 rear view. That fellow (also from pub pics) appears slightly leaner and lankier than Harry.

The "Vancouver" tarmac arrival pics also seem to be of a fellow slightly lankier than Harry, so ... I wonder. Also earlobes are very personal and perhaps this is why his ears are covered. I'm prepared to be wrong on this but am curious as to other opinions.
SwampWoman said…
@Miggy
The article in the DM about Prince Charles' multi-million pound inheritances from King George VI and the Queen Mother was the last straw for me.

All that wealth - yet they expect tax payers to foot security bills for the Harkles.


Hasn't it been reported that the Queen Mother died deeply in debt and QEII ended up paying her bills? And didn't QE II's dad have to buy Balmoral and Sandringham from the Great Abdicator? I'm not seeing where the multi millions came from unless King George had 1 million spare pounds invested for PC at his birth in 1948 and, earning the average interest rate through the years, would probably be worth about 35 million today if the principal/interest were untouched.

I think the "real" royal funds are under the control of the monarch.
So here she goes with another lawsuit against pap photos. Harper's Bazaar is reporting that MM is suing the paps over the walking the dogs photo.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a30607959/meghan-markle-pursues-legal-action-over-hiking-photos/
She was in a public place, and there was no expectation of privacy. How does she expect to win this?
Glow W said…
@hunter I just texted my SIl to see how much my giant nephew weighed at birth. (Shame I don’t remember but they are much younger than we are so I’m kinda over the baby thing).

In August, DH and I went camping and there was a lazy river so SIL met us with the boys and we took them to the splash pad and the lazy river. The big baby had just turned 1 year old. I had him in the inner tube with me and he wanted to go by my DH so I said “take this kid” and trying to lift him up out of the inner tube was difficult because he weighed a ton and his body never freaking ended lol. DH had to come over and help me pull the baby out of my innertube,

Seriously this kid is a giant. His dad is 6’2” and about 225 so big too.

She works, so she will text back when she can, I don’t remember thinking OMG when he was born so I’m going with in the 8 pound range until she replies.

Relating on topic: while I’m open to the idea she was carrying a doll (and let’s face it, I hope it was a doll) it is very possible that Archie is a big baby.
OOPS! Just signed on and didn't notice that this had already been posted. Sorry!
Humor Me said…
@Hunter and @hikari regarding Harry's arrival shots.

when I lived in Montana, I had a stop over in either StP/ Mnpls, or Denver, or SLC.
It is not unusual that the second plane was out on the tarmac at the end of multiple door at the very end of a gate.
I have had to walk tarmacs or extended gantries/ boarding bridges to board.
Sandie said…
This is bizarre (for how long can Harry suspend rational thought):

A warning letter has been sent to media because of the pap photographs of Meghan and Archie walking in a park?

She looked directly at the photographers and smiled. Everything about her appearance indicates the appearance being staged ... by her!
Glow W said…
@hunter I flew first class to Vancouver 2 years ago in April and we didn’t have a private jetway.

I also deplaned via 1958 Narobi in Oakland not too long ago (less than 10 years ago) nd believe me, I complained about it and then fell down the stairs and broke my foot, yup. They have since remodeled that wing of the airport.

At any rate, that was him de planing in Victoria off a regional turbo prop plane from Vancouver.
Sandie said…
By the way ... tarot reader saw them losing both titles (HRH and Sussex) or keeping them with conditions attached. The show aint over folks!
Tomorrow for the Brits on Channel 5, Thomas Markle: My Story. It’s on for an hour and a half.
hunter said…
Okay I've caught up w/ comments - tarmac at Victoria airport from smaller plane does make sense. Maybe Harry's just skinny.

Sandie - thank you for the tarot recaps! I'm not into it enough to follow them and I'm a huge skeptic but having it all set out for us like you did is really lovely and (in my opinion) gives the art of tarot a wince more credibility.

I look forward to your other summations as this continues. :)
Glow W said…
I read somewhere that they will have more papp protections now that they are private citizens (not sure where I read that and maybe it was on twitter, not sure), but they seem to be in some quasi royal-private situation so IDK. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️ And maybe that was US over Canada. I read so much and these tidbits don’t always stand out when I read them but then it pops up later as a talking point....

Plus, maybe it was wrong information anyway...
Ziggy said…
I haven't seen the license plate pictures, but we do have some special edition ones here in BC to commemorate our national parks, and some have a yellow tone:
https://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registration/licence-plates/Pages/bc-parks-plates.aspx
Bravura said…
Regarding questions about snow, there wouldn't be any at this point. Depending on elevation and weather, that would determine if you'd see any traces of snow left at this point. The PNW doesn't remain cold enough for the snow to stick around for days at a time. Our weather patterns are that of a temperate zone, meaning that we constantly have changing weather and temps tend to stick around the upper 30's and 40's in the winter days unless we have a chilly blast coming in driving temps downward. Obviously, elevation and location affects these temps (ie, mountains and more inland will drive down temps) but being on the water like that will affect the ability for snow to stick around. The marine layer keeps it too warm for it to stick too long or accumulate much. Add rain to the mix (as we've had here) and the snow is gone. We got a bunch in my neck of the woods last week and only minor traces remain in certain key parts at this point. Most melted within 24 - 48 hrs tops.

Hopefully that clears up the whole question about snow, lol. I've seen it pop up a few times in different mediums. The bracken/black berry vines in the background and such do lend an air of PNW foliage, but that can also be said of the UK in parts as well. It's hard to really denote where she is right now. Everything I've seen hides the trees so you can't see what is around her, making it more obscure and difficult to pinpoint location. The fauna in the pictures is vague enough to work for her "Vancouver" theme.
Miggy said…
@SwampWoman,

There has never been full transparency with regard to the Royal Family's wealth and I doubt there ever will be.
hunter said…
oh tatty yes please - do keep us posted with the birthweight of your SIL's baby.

You say he just turned one? How does his size compare with Meg's inert hiker child?
Glow W said…
@hunter it’s funny because you say skinny but over on Skippy (it’s the twilight zone over there—I don’t think I can go over there any more) they say it’s fat imposter Harry lol
hunter said…
@Tatty - however, I'd also like to point out I don't think PH is as large as BIL (6'2" 225lbs), PH is 6'1" and based on his similar physique to my ex-bf I would say Harry is currently weighing in around 175-ish, he is not a giant man.

Prince Andrew has a more robust build, but PH does not.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

Tomorrow for the Brits on Channel 5, Thomas Markle: My Story. It’s on for an hour and a half.

Something to look forward to at last!
none said…
I'm sure this is considered tin foil hat territory by many, but all this manufactured chaos of suing the media, curious doll/baby photos, family feuds, Harkle sightings, security issues and on and on are just shiny coins to distract from what is really going on.

Notice the uptick in online discussion against the monarchy and for a republic? That's the end game. This is about more than just two damaged people in a bad marriage. Flame away, but you have to admit none of this is remotely normal, even for Royals.
hunter said…
@Ziggy - those license plates you linked to (thanks) do not resemble the yellow & white plate I saw in the pics.

Plate I saw kinda looked white with a yellow stripe on top, to me. Or just the thin long yellow Euro-style plate, that was the yellow part, it was thin.
Glow W said…
@hunter I had been saying he is 1.2 months old, but was born in August so 1 year 5 months old. I keep bringing him up because it’s a running joke in the family how huge he is. He is crazy big and has passed up his older brother in size. I find Archie or the doll or whatever to be compatible in size and growth to my nephew who ran around 95% for height and weight.

I guess we can look up infant boys height and weight growth charts to get parameters of what a 95% baby Archie could be.
punkinseed said…
Oh,... gawd... excuse me while I gag: "...It was her love for him," Megs confided, "that made it possible." ??? Here We Go with the narcissist bragging about how she heroically saved Harry from his 'terrible' family, that is of course, if source Jessica is parroting what Megs wants her to say. Eventually Jessica is going to be misquoted or worse, 'leak' information that Megs didn't want revealed and wham, ghosted and become part of the cast offs, body count of fair weather friends.
What, one wonders, would be the main topics that the US media would want or expect from Megs and Harry? Michelle Obama and Barrack, the Clintons, too have had their education, careers and such going for them all along their paths, but what does a failed actress at being royal and a quitter of a prince have by comparison in order to follow the formers' path to earn billions? My point is: if you were going to attend a speech at a charitable fundraiser and the fee would be some crazy say, $50K a plate, who would you choose to donate and attend? When people donate their hard earned money they usually want it to go to fund the charity, not the administrators or their trustees. Recall how hopping mad we still are at the Red Cross after 9/11 when they admitted to not using the millions donated for victims and their families and the funds would be used for the next disaster. I digress...
My point is I think that sooner or later, after Megs and Harry refuse to reveal and spill all of the secrets about the royal family, then the media interest will quickly fade away and will move on to the next train wreck. And there's always some kind of next train wreck.
All Megs and Harry really have to give to the media, compared to Obamas or Clintons is their potential to reveal. I don't see much solid interest in them beyond that.
hunter said…
I'm also from the PNW and agree w/ Bravura - an inch or two of snow can disappear really quickly in that region.
KC said…
@Ziggy said (as have others)
Every time Will & Kate are in the headlines she has to do something to draw attention back to herself.

Yes, that's the order of the day now....and always was, really.
Hikari said…
@tatty,

>>>At any rate, that was him de planing in Victoria off a regional turbo prop plane from Vancouver.<<<

I can accept that it could be him, if he was exiting the puddle jumper. Captions on the photos were not clear. "Harry arriving in Canada" is easily misinterpreted as touching down in Vancouver.

I say 'could be', since we know Rachel has employed Harry doubles in the past. She does love her shenanigans. Wonder if *this* papp shot is part of the most current papp intrusion lawsuit or just the shots of her 'and the dogs in the woods with Archie'.

The figure exiting the plane looks as forlorn and beaten down as can be and the farthest thing from a Prince of the United Kingdom as could be. He could just as easily be a teenage runaway or a homeless person. So yeah, it's probably Harry. Though they cleared an entire floor of the observation deck and procured a private, nice car to drive this homeless guy home from the airport. Harry will be insulated for some time against the full brunt of his foolish, foolish choices.
KCM1212 said…
Does anyone need a really nice story today?

Very fast Twitter video

https://mobile.twitter.com/HelgaSpeck/status/1134510382339514371

An adorable little bit and a queens guardsman
Glow W said…
WHO boys growth chart: https://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/who/GrChrt_Boys_24LW_100611.pdf

Ok so if Archie at about 8.5 months old is in the 98% range, he could be about 25 pounds (11.5kg) and 30 inches long if I’m reading it right (it’s been a long time)

Bravura said…
Looks like Megs PR is working overtime on that victim card game. Now they're clapping back at the Queen for "taking away their titles." Really, Megs? Less than 24 hrs after your pap stroll backfires you go this route?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1230303/royal-news-queen-elizabeth-ii-Meghan-markle-prince-harry-HRH-title-megxit
@Sandie, ‘By the way ... tarot reader saw them losing both titles (HRH and Sussex) or keeping them with conditions attached. The show aint over folks! ‘

Let’s start praying it’s true, please let it be so! 😂 Let me get my popcorn🍿 !
Glow W said…
Ok nephew was 8 pounds 7 ounces at birth and now at one year 5 months old is 32 pounds now lol
Bravura said…
My apologies. That was published on Sunday. I just saw it pop up so it's probably been discussed already.
hunter said…
@holly - interesting point about abolishing the monarchy. I've read similar suggestions elsewhere this whole time.

Don't you think after Brexit the UK will need the monarchy more than ever?

Will and Kate did a great job last night, looking very regal and capable.

I sure do like Kate. She may have been playing the long game from the beginning, yes her mother may have "coached" her into marrying a royal somehow, yes she may have "schemed" to play her cards for her current position - I don't really CARE because she has always played by the royal rulebook (no stories, super discreet) and continues to serve her role beautifully.

It may not be a role for everyone, but she has been doing a marvelous job, in my opinion. It can't be easy.

Also - for Meghan's future opportunities - People don't seem to LIKE HER very much, after they get to know her. So anyone she may collaborate with, such as these women's organizations, etc - they may all end up coming away with a bad taste in their mouths which makes it difficult to continue to book gigs once the word gets out.

Should be interesting. Unlike the Obamas & the Clintons, they really have no accomplishments of any kind to rest their laurels upon. I also loved Piers Morgan's comment about them "serving."

They didn't give it very long before they decided to GTFO - it really invalidates their "service" dedication.
hunter said…
Hikari said,

"He could just as easily be a teenage runaway or a homeless person. So yeah, it's probably Harry."

HA HA HA so good.
Hikari said…
A fascinating article on Prince Albert Victor aka 'Eddy', the first born son of the Prince of Wales (later Edward VII). Derided for a century and a half, even within his own lifetime (he died very young of the influenza) as debauched, insane . . and possibly Jack the Ripper.

This article sheds a more compassionate light on Eddy, though his early death was considered a providential intervention for the Royal Family because, though beloved within the family, Eddy was widely acknowledged as not the full quid, to put it mildly.

I see a lot of similarities between Eddy and Harry. Imagine if Harry and William had switched places in the birth order and Harry were now heir presumptive to Charles. This current fracas of the distant #6 and his materialistic wife ought to be a relative tempest in a teapot compared to what faced the family at the end of Victoria's reign. Thanks to the twin pillars of BULLYING and RACISM, Harry's 'Grabdication' is elevated to the level of Edward VIII's abdication. Thanks to SM 'warriors' there is no sense of proportion about how profoundly silly and meaningless the Sussexes really are.

historyextra.com/period/victorian/trouble-prince-eddy-albert-victor-lost-king-brother-george-v-jack-ripper/
Glow W said…
@hunter I agree that while tall, the Windsor men tend to slim, but Thomas Markle seems to have had girth even in his younger years, but question mark there I suppose. Charles Spencer while slim also seems big boned....

Ah, heck, we are just chatting anyway... who knows... it would be funny if this is a giant doll and a real Archie turned out to be puny.
poppycock said…
Camper said...

'Meghan says they will always be considered royalty regardless of where they live or what they do'

There you go. Her sense of grandeur and inadequacy has nested in a perfect little nook. Forever royal no matter what. The RF will never get rid of her, she'll leech of that connection till the rest of her life. Their own Angie Bowie, sans brain.
Jenx said…
@raspberryruffle Tarot by Janine is fabulous. She is Canadian and very grounded. She (her readings) supports many of the suppositions expressed on this blog.

As for paps in Canada? Not a common occurrence unless she brought them with her. I lived in Muskoka (north of Toronto) for many years. It is a veritable playground for the rich and famous. Many celebrities either have properties or visit and know that they will never be bothered. I frequently ran across Harry Hamelin and Lisa Rinna. There are many sightings of people but I can assure you that they are not papped that often. That's why they like it here. so, for Missy to be screaming PAPS!!!, it will leave many Canadians shaking their heads.
octobergirl said…
So, she's ramping up the smearing again, as expected.


"Meghan Markle has been telling her close friends that quitting the royal family is the best thing that could ever happen to Prince Harry and said 'it was her love for him that made this possible,' a friend exclusively told DailyMail.com.

'She said that like her, his spirit was being crushed and she simply couldn't stand to see him suffer anymore,' the friend added. "

octobergirl said…
She's exhibiting grandiosity and positioning herself as Harry's savior. Also not recognising boundaries re saying they'll always use royal. Textbook narcissism.
@holly, I believe you're on the right track. QEII knows Charles will be awful, Will doesn't really want it, so they're left with the kids, who aren't old enough, Harry and the rest. Maybe this is all one big stage play to let the Royals exit stage right for a republic. They would all be free to merch till the end of time.

Be careful what you wish for, UK, you can see the state of the US Republic at this time :)
@Elle, Reine des Abeilles
She doesn't have murderer's thumbs but she does have the Single Transverse Palmar Crease on her right hand (in old school palmistry, the simian line).

"Although rare, this line normally appears on people that have a tendency to have problems communicating with other people. The ancient palmists predicted that these people will always have emotional problems. They move from one emotion to another. There is also a strong feeling of enjoying conflict. They are jealous of other people but they seem to be able to detach themselves when in an argument."
CookieShark said…
@ Camper

Sounds just like MM breathlessly exclaiming that she had to "save" Harry from his horrible family, who provided him with a good education and tours in the Army. All the wealth and comforts of life anyone could want. He has his health and so does she. They have a healthy son. Don't they have better things to do than mouth off at tabloids?

So she wants them to be "Royals" wherever they go. Hope it works out. No rush to move out of the $14 million dollar mansion? Of course not. Wouldn't want to be too independent. Just like her TIG days, crashing at other people's houses or having hotel rooms comped.
CookieShark said…
@ October girl GREAT point re: not recognizing boundaries.

There is video on Twitter, I believe, of her quickly going through something in Harry's car at a polo match before they were married. 2 of Harry's friends come up and escort her away. No clue about boundaries.

We see this again at the Investiture for Charles, and every time she gatecrashes. No recognition of boundaries, or no respect for them.
none said…
@A Narc's Daughter....I believe Mexit is really about Brexit.

Right. Careful what you wish for Brits. I'm in the U.S. and it's exhausting to be constantly buffeted back and forth between right and left and worrying about my children's future.

The stability the Queen and Monarchy have provided the British people for a very long time looks quite attractive to me.
Camper said…
You couldn’t make it up!

On the main 6pm news the BBC report that they left the U.K. to get away from the paparazzi and they are camped out all around the Canadian property, that’s where Meghan was papped against her wishes yesterday, hence the legal challenge.

It couldn’t get more ridiculous. They didn’t get papped in the U.K. at all in their home environment, with the baby, the dogs, nothing I can recall. Yes, she got photographed at the public polo match and Wimbledon. Hardly private. That’s visiting public events,

It’s so compelling to keep watching and reading, it’s quite frankly an unbelievable spectacle unfolding, but I also feel so queasy about it all.
Hikari said…
>>>'She said that like her, his spirit was being crushed and she simply couldn't stand to see him suffer anymore,' the friend added. "

It's so funny how Harry never looked so downcast or soul-crushed or suffering as he has looked these last 18 months with her. He faked it so well for 33 years til suddenly he couldn't anymore.

Only one thing changed, and that thing is Rachel.

The man getting off the plane looks pretty downcast to me. Why doesn't Harry ever genuinely smile any mre? Why does he look like a husk of a man, on the verge of tears or rage all the time.

Can it be . . R-A-C-H-E-L?

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Sarah said…
The more distance between cringe, ginge and the monarchy, the better for the monarchy. Her ability to do damage diminishes daily.
Whether or not William wants the job, his sense of duty will see him through, like George VI
octobergirl said…
@Hikari Couldn't agree more. All this spirit talk is Hollywood/Oprah bs. Narcissists don't have spirit. And she's got Harry completely bamboozled. "If you wear rose-colored glasses, red flags just look like flags" -Bojack Horseman
octobergirl said…
@CookieShark Thank you. I actually learned a lot from reading HG Tudor and other narc sites; it's so obvious now. There's a million examples like her refusing to follow royal rules and protocol.
So the photos of her picking up her yoga guru are OK, but the photos of her walking the dogs aren't?
none said…
Lots of discussion about the Harkles' security. MM is being harassed by the paps. Now I'm reading Harry is constantly under threat. Is that true? I don't know.

Are the Harkles so high profile that they are being pursued on multiple fronts? If safety is such a high priority as Harry has stated, then why leave the UK where they would be the safest.
AliOops said…
@Fairy Crocodile"
I read it is not illegal in Canada to take pictures of people in public places. So, even if I believe paps just HAPPENED to be on that muddy walk by pure chance they did nothing wrong. Selling pics may be another matter, however, but these two are idiots if they think they can stop pictures trade by going to courts every time somebody captures them.

People on other blogs also say that you can legally record a conversation in Canada as long as you are a part of it. Imagine opportunities that open up with that."

This is true.

So the ragey, moronic plank hasn't even been back to Canada for 24 hours yet, and he's already issuing legal warnings?! Has he seen the orgasmic glee writ large all over his always-going-to-be-Royal wife's face in those ridiculous set-up pap shots?
lizzie said…
Google images for 1985 Trooping the Colour to see Harry as an engaged, alert barely 9-month old. Difference between Hiking Baby and Baby Harry is pretty striking :)
Portcitygirl said…
@Holly, I totally agree with you! The Queen does care for her country!
Glow W said…
The tarot reader I read (for fun) is empathy insights. She has several readings on Prince Harry and also him with MM. and in a nutshell she basically says his road will be bumpy but looks like if they can weather the storms, they could have a solid lengthy relationship. She sees at least 2 kids and a third is— I can’t remembed how she worded it— shrouded maybe. IDK what that implies... miscarriage maybe?

http://empathysinsights.blogspot.com

To find harry’s, look all the way to the right list of names and go all the way down.
Holly, they're using the excuse Harry needs RPO protection because he was in Afghanistan, that he is a "target" and needs protection. Tell that to the other thousands of men and women who served their country over there and don't get RPOs or protection of any kind. I think a good look as to what Harry actually did in Afghanistan did is in order. Word is that he didn't do much. Shameful.
octobergirl said…
JocelynsBellinis said...
So the photos of her picking up her yoga guru are OK, but the photos of her walking the dogs aren't?

Excellent point. The Harkles like to pick and choose. I have a feeling Meghan set up the pap walk, Harry came home furious about it, and Markle lied and told him she was stalked.
AliOops said…
@octobergirl

Very likely. She's already got form for that from her Toronto days when Harry rushed to issue the first statement.
@holly, ‘Lots of discussion about the Harkles' security. MM is being harassed by the paps. Now I'm reading Harry is constantly under threat. Is that true? I don't know.

Are the Harkles so high profile that they are being pursued on multiple fronts? If safety is such a high priority as Harry has stated, then why leave the UK where they would be the safest. ‘

Because it’s either all set up and they don’t mind. Or they didn’t think it through, and should have stayed in the UK .

They can’t complain about the press and privacy now, if they’re setting the photos up, and I think they are. It’s fake trauma for attention. People are quickly seeing through them, especially her, these opinions are from people I know who’ve never had an opinion on the royals.☹️
Nutty Flavor said…
They're using the excuse Harry needs RPO protection because he was in Afghanistan, that he is a "target" and needs protection. Tell that to the other thousands of men and women who served their country over there and don't get RPOs or protection of any kind.

That's not quite fair. Targeting Harry has a symbolic value that targeting an ordinary soldier would not.

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