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Will She or Won't She?

 I am talking about Catherine and Trooping the Color.

It's barely over a week away and will she/won't she decision is leaning toward not in public media.

The ceremony is almost three and a half hours beginning really at 10, parade starting 10:30 and flyover at 1.  

That's a long time even if you are sitting.  Especially if you have not been out in public in a long time plus you have or feel you have to be the face of being the parent while your spouse is busy being officially second to His Majesty.  And He won't be on a horse this time (uproar over tradition).

Yeah but, but ... what if she showed up for just part of it, like the flyover?

OH, that would be heartwarming after worrying about her as she has been coping with her disease.  

But ... eh, my guess is not.  Just because if she showed up, it would become the Catherine's back show instead of the celebration of the King's birthday.  And Catherine is known for being able to  be in the background in public royal settings which are focused on someone else (ie not spotlighting themselves).  

She might be ready to come back but may well decide this is not the time or the place to do that.  Marrying into any royal family comes with lots of opportunities to be gracious to the public but also to the other family members.  

(even so, between us, I'd clap if I saw her)




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Fifi LaRue said…
Hairless' hanging on to the lawsuits for UK security and IPP status, like a pitbull with a bone, strikes me as preposterous. He's all over the US, and traveled to one of the most dangerous countries on Earth, yet is insistently demanding IPP status. Makes one wonder...why does he need to fly without him or his luggage being searched? Hmmm? Something's fishy, and it smells rotten.
Fifi LaRue said…
Somewhere, SMM?, someone wrote that Rache was a million dollars in debt, and Hairless doesn't know it.
It kinda makes sense now that Rache was near naked in Nigeria; it's because she's desperate financially, and needs to get some money, big money, rolling in. The problem is Rache isn't attractive, alluring, sexy, or young. She's more of the p*rn type except having no boobs won't get her anywhere in the p*orn industry. Also, Rache is getting long in the tooth, she can't compete with all the gorgeous young women out there.


Who did Rache think she was going to snag being photographed over and over naked in Nigeria?
OCGal said…
E-mails, please.

Salutations to all Nutties.
Hikari said…
I would also love to see Catherine on the balcony for the fly past, but I would be surprised if she does. I think the King would be delighted to have Catherine standing beside him as a great birthday present, but it would be like Catherine to not want to steal any thunder.

If she is still feeling poorly and looking ill, I don’t expect her to show her face before the summer holidays are over.

The longer she stays out of the public eye, the more I am concerned that her illness is grave. The increasingly frail QEII had her terminal condition for probably a couple of years but still turned up smiling. Is Catherine even sicker than a 96-year old?

It would be reassuring to see her at some time this summer.
Maneki Neko said…
I thought I read somewhere that Catherine might make a brief appear on the balcony. It would certainly be reassuring. I am concerned her condition might be worse than first mentioned. The Palace did give us a timeframe of return to work/public appearance, first it was after Easter, then June.

However, when I googled just now, this is the first search result that came up. 'Reports from earlier this year indicated that Kate would not return to work until at least the fall, or potentially next year. Last month, The Daily Beast reported that Kate's diary for the year is empty, with no public appearances planned for the remainder of 2024.'

Catherine will need to wait until she's given the all clear by doctors but from what I've read, I'm not sure she'll be able to return to her usual royal duties as before. The chemo must be taking its toll and she needs to get her strength back. A very brief appearance and a wave on the balcony of BP would be reassuring but there is the drive to central London and back and it might be too much as this stage, even when chauffeur driven.

https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/kate-middleton-to-step-away-from-royal-duties-shocking-report-claims-she-might-not-return/articleshow/110766808.cms
Today's news is that H has been given leave to appeal :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7228zd319lo

Will we ever see the back of this? Is it us he fears and/or being arrested by UK police?

...

I'm still hoping and praying that the Princess of Wales will be OK but refuse to speculate about TtC. IMO, we've had enough `will she/won/t she be here?' with Harry's wife as it is.
Sandie said…
My wish: Catherine follows the late Queen's example and appears on the balcony for the flyover. The British nation would be ecstatic, and everyone would be reassured.
Sandie said…
https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/653394/prince-william-attends-duke-of-westminster-wedding-best-photos/

The wedding of the year has begun!
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13505107/Duke-Westminsters-bride-Olivia-Henson-stuns-Emma-Victoria-Payne-gown-featuring-floral-motifs-ancestors-veil-Faberge-Myrtle-Leaf-Tiara-arrives-Chester-Cathedral.html

First glimpse of the bride. Hmmm ... my first impression is 'not impressed'!

According to the article, Prince George is there. Eugenie is also there, looking fabulous.
OKay said…
@Sandie I'm not wild about the scalloped edges myself, but I'd say the dress is a damn sight better than the one Madame wore. It's simple, but it fits and it lays properly.
For me, apart from the hem poking as if it hadn't been pressed, the dress was fine, though I feel for the bridesmaid trying to cope with the veil.

Bride looked radiantly happy. I look forward to photos of the happy couple together - so often these will predict the happiness (or otherwise) of the marriage. As my no1 husband and I posed for the first photos, I was moved to speak to him out of the corner of my mouth-
`At least try to look as if you're with me...'
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

First glimpse of the bride. Hmmm ... my first impression is 'not impressed'!
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The dress is ok, at least it's a proper wedding dress and not an off the shoulder number but personally, I don't like the opening at the back. The bride is pretty but next to her 33 year old husband, she looks older (she's 31). Admittedly, he looks very boyish. At least, she's got poise and class. My remarks are superficial, he apparently lives a normal life and is a philanthropist, which is the main thing.

'Grosvenor is the chair of trustees of the Westminster Foundation, a charitable organization that focuses on helping vulnerable youth and their families by supporting local communities and educational e-spaces, and fighting inequality of opportunities.[15]

He also continues to support the DNRC or the Defence and National Rehabilitation Centre, an organization established by his father that helps wounded British military veterans.' (Wikiper).

At least, we've been spared the sight of * in a horrible ill-fitting dress and & H.
Magatha Mistie said…

Aggrandise

Her rise and demise
comes as no surprise
She devil in disguise
set out to polarise
Riding on the back of
countless flaccid guys…

Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Lovely to hear from you. Love the last two lines of your ditty! Always irreverent! Please keep it up.
Humor Me said…
New thread! thank you!
I hope she appears on the balcony with the family for the fly over. I also wish The Family would bit the bullet and say what is wrong with her. The platform they have is world wide - IF this finding saved her life because it was caught early, then a PSA is a gift to those whose lives could be shortened due to ignorance. Being proactive these days with some of the deadly diseases out there is a game changer.

The wedding - Yes, the dress immediately brought to mind a certain dress from years back. This time, the designer and Bride nailed it - I love it. The lace on the veil matched the gown - the neckline, cuffs. It was not too much - just enough (I loathe lace personally, but I would wear that gown in a heart beat). I felt sorry for her mum - bless her heart! She had to wrangle that veil and accessory train in that wind by herself. It was a two person job! Where was the designer? Beautiful day, beautiful couple. I wish them all the best!

I do not understand H getting to appeal - everything! What a waste of money, which he really does not have.
Happy summer - back to lurking.
Magatha Mistie said…

One Fell into the Cuckolds Geist

Denied Westminster
Duke, and Abbey
Made do with Windsor
no red carpet, chick shabby
Chester Cathedral
looking resplendent
No invite for haz
nor Nurse Ratched attendant…

Magatha Mistie said…

The wedding, I liked the dress from
the front, not the hole in the back.
Blue shoes, yeh/nah.
Bridesmaid’s dresses, and black shoes!
He has a lovely face, she looks hard?
I wish them well



Sandie said…
@MM
Wicked!

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Wedding of the year: Her hairstyle is too severe and I think it is this that makes her look older. From the little we have seen of her, she seems to have a bubbly, happy, optimistic personality that very much reminds me of Catherine, and that hairstyle is so severe that it hides her personality. She is skinny with excellent posture, like Catherine, and that dress and veil swamp her. More lace might have lightened the look. But overall, my impression of her is that she is not that interested in fashion or couture, so her wedding look both reveals and obscures her personality. They both look very happy and genuinely so.
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We had a detailed post about hapless winning the right to appeal the verdict on his security on the last thread. Will it never end? And is this a victory for the self-centered brat? He may just end up with a bigger legal bill and a bigger chip on his shoulder. Legal opinions:

https://youtu.be/GpAEKeCrI20?si=_9e2nH2sn9bQwWLZ

https://youtu.be/8t22L_DSpR8?si=nJfyc9bs1sX5-euT
Sandie said…
A superb timeline of the battle to get full-time taxpayer-funded security anywhere and everywhere, forever, for all of them (probably including Doria).

January 2020: Harry and Meghan announce that they're quitting the parts of monarchy they hate (daily engagements, bread and butter work, and the media) to become content creators but keeping the parts they love (money, foreign tours, and private security). The Queen says "ha, no the fuck you are not" and orders everyone to Sandringham. They demand "in or out." Harry tries to negotiate "half-in half-out". Queen laughs and announces that they're stepping down as royals in March but they remain much loved members of her family. Harry and Meghan go all 😮 because they thought they were getting half-in half-out.
February 2020: RAVEC convenes and decides to downgrade Harry's security status (and accordingly Meghan's and Archie's) because they will no longer be senior royals or working royals.
March 2020: Harry and Meghan come back to the UK on a revenge tour expecting everyone to fall over them sobbing "don't go." William and Kate ignore them at the Commonwealth Service (after they whined about not being in the official profession). They flee to Canada because no one begged them to remain. Then they flee to the US because of COVID.
Harry gets word of the RAVEC decision, collapses on the floor sobbing.
{{{Stuff happens}}}
January 2022: Harry requests a judicial review of RAVEC's February 2020 decision. He basically accuses RAVEC of not fulfilling their statutory duty by including him in risk analysis and demands that they give him back the status he had prior to the February 2020 decision because he and his family feel unsafe in the US because of Al Qaeda.
{{{More stuff happens}}}
November / December 2023: They're in court to hear the case.
February 2024: The judge rules that RAVEC's decision was properly made and within the law. He dismisses the case. Harry appeals immediately.
April 2024: Judge throws out Harry's appeal saying he has no grounds to appeal. Harry's lawyers appeal the appeal.
(Today) June 6, 2024: A judge reverses the April 2024 decision denying Harry the ability to appeal. Harry is now permitted to appeal the February 2024 decision.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/just-stop-oil-protesters-target-135326348.html
Just Stop Oil protesters target Duke and Duchess of Westminster’s wedding

What a rotten thing to do.
Sandie said…
Apologies ... link for the summary:

https://www.tumblr.com/brf-rumortrackinganon/752573731142074368/what-do-you-think-about-harry-given-approval-to?source=share
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Updates on ARO from BarkJack:

things went sour between ARO & a consultant working in close proximity to MM to fully critique ARO marketing, business & dev.
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Brought aboard amid initial expansion, person said “Meg went cold when the consultant invited to event M wanted to go to” & “became visibly irritated if anyone discussed personal anecdote or spoke without being spoken to”.

Consultant now MIA for ARO, unreachable by txt or email
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The quote was supposed to read “Meg went cold when the consultant was invited to an event she wanted to go to”
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To be clear, this isn’t a slight on Markle’s part. So she wanted meetings to stay focused and not get off track, is what I gathered by her annoyance of people taking up air with things unrelated to ARO.
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https://x.com/BarkJack_/status/1798946682320916878

BaekJack admits to trying not to provoke the ire of the SS, so being diplomatic.

But, basically, Nutjob is fighting with the consultant she hired because she always knows best, must be in control, knows everything and is an expert in everything, and must be the centre of of attention and have sole control of every conversation in every situation.

She made a huge mistake with that launch of nothing and inviting so much attention to the launch of nothing. She has destroyed the brand of a new idea before actually having the brand to sell.

It's a mess.

SwampWoman said…
Hikari said: If she is still feeling poorly and looking ill, I don’t expect her to show her face before the summer holidays are over.

The longer she stays out of the public eye, the more I am concerned that her illness is grave. The increasingly frail QEII had her terminal condition for probably a couple of years but still turned up smiling. Is Catherine even sicker than a 96-year old?


I am recovering from a short but debilitating illness that caused me to lose 10 lbs. in 2 days (dehydration, NOT fat, sadly). I can only shudder at how debilitating her illness is because she has ZERO fat stores, no reserves to tide her over even a short illness. Her body will have to steal sustenance from her muscles (and bones).

The increasingly frail QEII started out with quite a bit of weight as she was (apparently) a stout, strong lady. She became frail to the eye as the weight dropped off and she had no reserves left.
Ian's Girl said…
Don't like anything about Olivia's gown. I think the fit is every bit as bad as Nutmeg's, if not worse. We're used to seeing her with her hair down and minimal makeup, certainly not orange lipstick, so I think the updo and makep arewhat makes her look hard. Don't like the tiara at all, but then I'm apparently the only person on the planer who hated Catherine and Charlotte's Coronation headpieces, so I guess I just don't care for that look. While I'm being honest, I wasn't really fond of Catherine's wedding dress, either. She looked magnificent, don't get me wrong, I was just a bit underwhelmed. I think I also don't like lace as anything but trim, and she had it as sleeves and maybe even bodice? But she was stunning!

I did love Olivia's veil, and I wish them both happy. They both seem marvelously down to earth and unpretentious. I am a huge fan of his entire family. His mother's family history is awesome.

I cling to hope that Catherine is adding some mental health time to her recovery, and that's why it's taking so long. I cannot see how cancer caught so early that she herself referenced "preventative chemotherapy" could be knocking an otherwise healthy woman out for a full year, and maybe never allowing her to return to full time duties. I suppose it could be her hair; if I look hard enough at the video, I coukd make it seem as though she's wearing a wig, and it would be hard to keep that a secret as much as she's out and about...but do we think she's really so vain that she would let that stop her from doing her duty?

I feel as though she either needs more time off because this has shaken her more than we realize ( and no shame in that) or else they found more cancer in the meantime, and she chose not to share that. I think they would surely have done a full body CT or PET scan after the initial cancer was found, and perhaps saw more.

I have to remind myself that she's very thin, and chemo may take a harder toll, though.

It's just extremely hard for me personally to reconcile the late Queen well into her 90s, near death and in tremendous pain, and the current King undergoing cancer treatment himself and nearly twice Catherine's age, both doing balcony appearances, and Catherine being unable to. It terrifies me.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1daihit/believable_cdan_item_megs_wants_to_upstage_the/

CDAN blind that Nutjob tried to upstage the wedding of the year today. I saw one article that focused on Nutjob, claiming that everything about the wedding was inspired by Nutjob (dress, veil, flowers, the kiss, and so on). I rolled my eyes and scrolled on ...!
Fifi LaRue said…
If/when Catherine shows herself in public, she's going to be scrutinized. And Megsy will be armed with a knife in each hand to throw shade at the lovely and good Catherine.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1daevf8/why_does_harry_want_to_jump_the_queue_by_having/

Harold is trying to speed up his appeal of the verdict on his security, because he has a number of overseas visits planned.

I am astonished at the blatant grift. The Reddit post gives all the details.
I keep misreading the words about balcony appearance and the `flyover'.

What's happened to English English? What used to be called a `Fly Past' is now a `flyover'; which was always an elevated urban road of some length which passes over other roads, houses and anything else in its way, The Chiswick one (from the M3) was the earliest in London (IIRC) and, again IIRC, was originally seemed to have been made of wood. Westway is another.

I keep envisaging TW poised on the edge of a flyover parapet, threatening to jump unless she gets her way, with onlookers being afraid to say anything.


Were I ever in a similar position as the Princess of Wales (with a sworn and very public enemy who'd rejoice in my being poorly and looking less than what I normally do), I'd stay well out if sight until the enemy totally destroyed herself and was incapable of making a single public, utterance.

Even if I had to wait until the bitch had been locked up securely or had departed this life.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Ian's Girl,

I respectfully disagree with almost everything you said about the wedding dress.

I thought it was beautiful and very tastefully done.
SwampWoman said…
I thought the bride and groom looked lovely and happy, and that is the best thing of all. Harry looked like he was going to his execution and, in a way, he was. His entire life before her was cut out/destroyed.
Hikari said…
Before googling pictures of this wedding just now, I hadn’t known what Hugh Grosvenor and his new bride looked like. Impressions:
1. He looks very boyish for 33. He could very easily pass for an Oxbridge undergrad in a Merchant Ivory film. It was quite a collection of toffs, this cream of British society. He looks very down to earth for being the richest man in England under 40.
2. His delicate bride is lovely, and the couple almost look like siblings, don’t they? I think the dress swamped her a bit. The heavy taffeta and glaring white is reminiscent of That Other Dress, This one is better made but I think that material is very unforgiving and too heavy to fit well. The scalloped neckline was too shallow to really show it to best effect, and I think she should have worn a necklace for more visual interest. The keyhole opening in the back is discordantly modern with the almost Edwardian feel of the front, with the scalloping, lace cuffs and built in sash. That waistline is actually my favorite part of the dress.
3. Making the shoes her “something blue” was an unconventional choice, but dark shoes with a white gown is a No. They were probably very nice shoes but they distract from her dress. The hem also seemed like it wasn’t laying properly which just brought attention to them more.
4. Formal bridal updos are often times not very flattering and I don’t think this one probably shows her to advantage. It looks plastered to her skull. I like the idea of a floral headpiece… There is a royal fleur-de-lys tiara that I really like… But this bride has a small head and with the severely scraped back hair, this particular tiara looks too big and heavy for her.
5. A tasteful manicure. I think her neutral lip color deadened her a bit. To me she looks like a Spring in her color palette; a more rosy color would have brightened her up.
6. The bouquet was lovely, And the groom had a pink tie to match. Olivia’s lipstick color should have been drawn from her bouquet.

The older I get, the fewer bridal gowns I actually like. I think this fit is boring and I don’t care for the clashing elements… It almost seems like it was cobbled together out of features from two or three different dresses. It doesn’t wow me but I hope the young couple will be blissfully happy.

Eugenie is looking good for a mother of two. I’m not a fan of accordion pleats but that shade of green looked nice on her. A York princess in a non-distracting outfit is a novelty.
Ian's Girl said…
@Girl With a Hat, I am 100 percent sure that you have far better taste than I, and more discernment in matters of fashion! It would be a dull world indeed if we all agreed on everything. I do think the bride was beautiful!

@Wild Boar Battle-maid, it is surely the hillbilly in me, but I wouldn't give the sworn enemy the satisfaction of knowing she'd got under my skin. I don't mean that Catherine should do anything at all until she is well, but I hope she isn't so thin skinned that she would allow Nutmeg to hold that much power over her. I can well believe she would refuse to be in the same room with her, and would prefer to not even be in the same country as her, but I'd like to believe she wouldn't stay cowering at home for fear of what Megaliar and her flying monkeys might say.

Sandie said…
Just a thought re. Catherine: she had HG with her pregnancies so it is possible that the chemo made her extremely nauseous and feeling weak. A royal correspondent (will post the link when I find it) knows people who are close to Catherine, and they said that initially the effects of chemo were debilitating (really rough, unlike the King) but she has turned a corner and recovery is now going very well. She also said that gossip about Catherine not returning to royal duties ever or for a very long time are nonsense.
abbyh said…
Opus,

An idea I had not thought of.

Concerns about personal information. Resend without that? My edit it without that?
OKay said…
One other thing about The Wedding - I LOVED the blue shoes! Very modern bride, doing it her way despite all the pomp and circumstance. I'm betting this starts a trend.
SwampWoman said…
Hikari said: The older I get, the fewer bridal gowns I actually like. I think this fit is boring and I don’t care for the clashing elements… It almost seems like it was cobbled together out of features from two or three different dresses. It doesn’t wow me but I hope the young couple will be blissfully happy.

I look terrible in white! If I get married again (which I will not!) it would be in red. I look much better in red. Personally, I think Army green or Navy blue would be more appropriate because the battle for dominion is just beginning...
@Ian's Girl

Well, that's what I'd do!

I'm sure Catherine's made of sterner stuff than I am. It'd be a long time before I could emerge and I knocked the Poison Dwarf for six, as with the Golden Goddess dress.
SwampWoman said…
OKay said...
One other thing about The Wedding - I LOVED the blue shoes! Very modern bride, doing it her way despite all the pomp and circumstance. I'm betting this starts a trend.


ROFL, so did I! Something borrowed, something blue! I thought "We could be friends!" (except for the age, social class, and wealth differences).

/I wish I'd thought to wear red high heels with the white dress at my wedding, but my grandmother would have probably snatched me baldheaded.
Hikari said…
Swampie,

I’m a Winter so black and white should be in my palette but both wash me out near my face. If I wear either, it has to be as an under layer with a brighter color over top.

I guess we have Victoria to thank for wedding white. Until then brides just wore their Sunday best in any color of their choosing. I think blue was popular. When QV chose white for her wedding, suddenly everything bride had to have a white dress made especially. White being a very impractical color, a lot of women wouldn’t wear it top to toe. I think we might also derive the “diamonds are forever” engagement ring tradition from Victoria, too. I think this is especially prevalent in the United States because here are you very rarely see another type of gemstone used for an engagement ring, but brides in other countries often choose their birthstone or another color they like.

Doubtful I’ll have a wedding ever, but if I do, I will choose something other than the traditional dress. Maybe a nice suit. I used to poo poo civil ceremonies, but having lived through three sisters’ extravaganzas, it’s looking more appealing. She

I liked O’s blue shoes on their own; I was just startled to see them. I’ve never encountered a bride bold enough for colorful footwear before. I wonder if the dress was bespoke; most probably. I’ve never seen anything like it. Extremely modern in the back but quite old-fashioned in front. Still modest by current standards but that large circle of skin on her back was another startling element. I’m sure she will spawn imitators. She
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari OT

Diamond engagement rings in Victorian times were mainly for the upper classes, often in a half hoop style. Pearls and other stones were also popular. Diamonds for engagement rings was a marketing ploy by de Beers, I think, stating a diamond is forever. De Beers also artificially inflated the price of diamonds.
SwampWoman said…
De Beers was, IIRC, doing the product placement thing in "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" so diamonds are good for wives AND mistresses!
Here in the UK, it's a very sad day because we have just lost a `National Treasure', Dr Michael Mosley, who in every way was the polar opposite of TBW and her husband.

A qualified-medic-turned-TV-presenter, he was a first-rate communicator and has surely had a very positive effect on the health of the nation. A man of great warmth and humanity.

In the Wild Boar household, we feel as if we have lost a valued friend. Such a shame the Harkles don't take him as their role model.
Magatha Mistie said…

Nom de spair

I’ll never forgive
her low down curtsy
Or the fact she always looks
sloven and dirty
All the slurs and bile
that she’s thrown
Nothing compares to the
disrespect shown
By maleficent meg
an apt epithet
In procuring the name of
Lilibet…

Magatha Mistie said…

Cheers Maneki & Sandie 😘

abbyh said…
I was sad to hear about Dr. Mosley.

I always enjoyed his stuff. He was good at making things understandable and very likeable while doing it.

Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar OT

I echo your sentiments re Dr Michael Mosley. He did help the nation, especially as he was very relatable.

Yes, the polar opposite of the other two. Mind you, most if not all of us Nutties are the polar opposite of those two.


@Magatha

That mock curtsey was absolutely despicable. She didn't know she'd have to curtsey to the Queen! That's a lie. This brings to mind the journalist in Morocco saying about * 'She's repugnant'. She certainly is.

This YouTube video by the Black Belt Barrister dissects the Netflix episode showing the curtsey at 2". Some good points.

https://youtu.be/pbn045a4f6g?feature=shared
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2024.06.09-123445/https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/prince-harry-deeply-upset-by-king-charles-latest-decision-amid-rift-within-royal-family-101717839692642.html

Tom Quinn making up stuff up to get attention again ... His latest claim is that the duo want Frogmore back to make it their UK base.
Thinking of that ghastly curtesy, another unforgivable, awful, stunt they tried eons ago, that seemed to sink without trace. was H reading a version of Thomas the Tank Engine, with a new locomotive called `the Duchess' with the wh*re's face plastered on the smoke-box door at the front. At that time, there was a model made by Mattel, IIRC.

At the time, it struck me as an outrageous piece of pro-Hag propaganda. For reasons too complicated to explain, it crossed my mind this morning and I did some digging to find out how far it had got - came across this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUkuVgPCqTY

`Thomas & Friends™ | Meet the Character - Duchess | Season 24 - The Royal Engine | Cartoons for Kids'

I can't remember if we were aware of it at the time - this is a different manufacturer, her face has been softened and is less like the original and I don't recall the title `Duchess of `Loughborough' (pron. `Luff-brer', not to be confuse with Loughton in Essex,- `Lou-' as in `loud' )

Apart from the awful accent of the Narrator (Thomas') the script is pukeworthy, telling us how `the Duchess' performs her duties.

Were they trying to brainwash the children? She may not be a locomotive but she's clearly loco.
Sinner Any-Assignment 5442 on makes the cogently argued point that H wants IPP status awarded by the UK, with us the People paying, to protect from him prosecution over the way he has behaved towards the State and us.

It's at https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dbzdzy/dont_pity_the_fool/ but you'll need to scroll down.
SwampWoman said…
Very sad to hear about Dr. Mosley. Terrible. I'm assuming a cardiac-related event, but a fall with injuries in an isolated area would do it too.
Sandie said…
His relentless battle against the government (RAVEC) confuses me. What is he trying to achieve and why?

If we go back in time, they wanted a half in-half out option. It seems that this meant that they lived in California, had full security paid for by British taxpayers, had all their styles and titles, did appearances in the UK when they wanted to, did whatever tours or appearances they wanted to anywhere in the world as official royals, and kept Frogmore Cottage. Plus, none of the rules of royalty would apply to them because they would make up their own.

Are they deluded enough to still be fighting for this? And is their mock royal tour of Nigeria an indication that they are going to take what they wanted anyway? Hence the grab of titles for their children, the playing of the national anthem in Nigeria, and so on? Security itself does not seem to be an issue for them. The security they use seems to be more for show. I say this because there is a noticeable difference between how their security behaves and that if the royal family does. They actually have the added privilege of the UK security system keeping an eye on any threats to them.

Or is she goading him because she does not want her or the children to have anything to do with the UK or the royal family so she uses security as an excuse? The more he loses court cases, the more money he loses. She is having no success in becoming wealthy in her own right, so is the money they have not going to run out?

I find their behaviour so bizarre, and I have found that using logic with the duo is hopeless be cause they are like toddlers caught up in a tantrum.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dcazzf/prince_harry_directly_asked_by_king_charles_not/

Is Tom Quinn on the turn? Warning H that there'll be `consequences' if he doesn't do as the King `asks'?
That curtsey was also a mockery of everything she may have learnt in ballet - presumably she's very good at turning her knees out though.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dc7wsj/fbi_threat_to_commenter_on_cdan/

Does anyone know who the man is that is referred to in this blind? It basically says she tried to hit on a recently newly wed but she is way too old for him.
Humor Me said…
My two cents - the fight for the IPP status is two fold: first - he will not have to pay for protection as the government deems him important, so they pay. Same with trips, etc. Second - the government says he is important, therefore take that Family - I am Important. It is a self fulfilling empty win, as it does not get him what he wants in the run, which is acceptance and royal duties that he approves of doing.
IMHO - the fight is to remain relevent in the changed and changing monarchy. In eight years, George will be an adult. H is pushed farther down the scene as the real Spare is stepping up, and in turn, Charlotte and Louis. H becomes irrelevant in a very disappearing way.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Sandie

I think that would be the Duke of Westminster who was married last week

He seems to be a lovely person, as is his new bride

Imagine * entering such a lovely family instead of the new bride! She would try the same tricks - claiming racism, trying to drive a wedge between her man and his family, doing vile things to his family, trying to distance him from his friends.

The juxtaposition of the sweet wholesomeness that the Duke exudes versus her malicious horribleness really brings out to me how abnormal a human being she really is

And, I supposed she thought she could entice him with her perverted sexual behaviour
Sandie said…
@Humor Me
Interesting. Basically, it is a fight to remain relevant.

As the second born, he was destined to be pushed down the line of succession. The royal family would have always tried to help him live a useful and relevant life, inside the fold. However, his marriage sabotaged any chance of that for him. Marriage was a smash and grab for her so there was no way he could find relevance and usefulness within the royal fold once he committed himself to her. But she is also a toxic narc so he is fighting for relevance in his marriage and all he really has is the royal connection.

The way I have framed it ends up with him being a loser. Either he achieves huge success as an independent, cutting all ties with royalty, or he goes back to the royal fold and plays by the rules. Neither is possible while married to her. Trying to take over the monarchy and get the governmeny to bend to her will is not possible unless he kills off his father, brother and all his brother's children before they reproduce.

He cannot give up this fight. If he accepts being irrelevant, and lives modestly in obscurity, he loses everything he has left with her. Ironically, if he loses everything, he has a real chance of regaining the love and protection of his birth family and his country, but it would be on their terms, forever.
Ian's Girl said…
I'd say the newlywed was Hugh Grosvenor? ( Newly married Duke of Westminster)
Sandie said…
Prince Harry is searching for a UK base as his friends do not visit him in the US due to rifts with Meghan Markle, a royal commentator has claimed.
...

https://archive.ph/2024.06.10-091458/https://www.gbnews.com/royal/prince-harry-uk-home-friends-meghan-markle-royal-news

What an odd outburst from Tom Quinn.

If hapless did some planning, he could see his friends when he is in the UK, as he sometimes does. So, he seems to want Frogmore Cottage and full-time security back so that his friends can visit him, because they won't visit him in California because they do not like his wife. Well, that is what Quinn claims.

Quinn, nothing you say makes sense. Hapless never stays long when he is in the UK and he never seems to plan ahead enough to make plans to see his friends or alert RAVEC to assess his security needs, when he could.
SwampWoman said…
His friends could let him know "Hey, we'll be in your area of operations on these days; contact us if you want to see us. Leave the wife at home." Then when the rictus grin comes filing in, they could all look at their watches, exclaim at the time, and have to go attend an urgent prior engagement.
Fifi LaRue said…
Hmmm. I don't think Hairless has any real friends in the UK. Maybe when they were all younger, and single and partying. But now that Hairless is middle-aged, well, not many people in his friend cohort continue to display aberrant anti-social behavior like Hairless does. He's high all day, every day. No one who takes their family responsibilities seriously is high all day, every day. (An argument for the no children existing.) No one who has worthwhile activities is high all day, every day. He was known for his problem behavior in the UK, but tolerated as he was related to the Monarch and Royal Family. Hairless has a better chance at friendships in California where having access to the best drugs gets one a friend group.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie @Ian's Girl

I was going to say the same, i.e. the Duke of Westminster. I think the fact he is the richest man in Britain and richer than the Queen was must have been immensely appealing. I don't know how/when she would have met him but he is a friend of both William and Harry. Obviously, he wasn't interested. She hugely overestimates her charm and attraction, plus she would have been with H already, either as a girlfriend, fiancée or wife and the Duke had the sense not to go there. She is not as irresistible as she thinks.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Maneki: I've read a few places that Megsy was in the UK trolling for a man; she was working the sports teams for someone eligible. She was asking what few friends she had for introductions. Apparently no one was interested. Megsy's blatant form of allure was unattractive and/or sent men running, running far away from her. She had her best shot with the 90 year old Getty, but the family chased her off.
snarkyatherbest said…
my catherine thought. she’s having chemo because of the presence of cancer. chem is usually 12-16 rounds (most people can only tolerate 11 since it’s cumulative) it could be stretched out weekly and that can make her feel tired and she can have a lot of other physical changes. hair loss or textural changes (and color) gauntness, weight loss. she knows she would be scrutinized. even by supporters on her first outing. would be great to see her make it to the balcony but it would draw all the attention to her. i doubt she would want that. and quite frankly the king might be fond of her he may not want all that attention away from him and his queen.

besides a secret wish of mine is that she has put together a production process to make lemon curd sold at buckingham palace with all proceeds to cancer research and then have a podcast interviewing drs, researchers, nurses, care givers and patients about their journey and all resources to help people with cancer. she sell $2MM in curd and her podcast is off the charts. and then and only then we see her make an appearance and as she turns to leave she flicks her hair as an fu to montecito. a girl can hope 😉
Fifi LaRue said…
@Snarky: The lemon curd is a great idea! Gwyneth Paltrow, then Catherine showing the Mega-Liar how it's done.
@Snarky

I love your secret wish and wish it for you!
Maneki Neko said…
I am reading the latest Harry Markle blog which was up while I was away. There's plenty on the faux royal tour of Nigeria and also something about Save The Children, whose patron is Princess Anne but where the duo tried to muscle in. There is a photo taken from Save The Children UK X account, I think, with a photo of the duo and the message 'Thank you Prince Harry and Meghan for joining us in Nigeria to learn more about how we ensure children don't just survive but thrive. (My emphasis). Reminds you of anything? In a documentary with Tom Bradby, TOW declared tearfully 'It's not enough to just survive something, that's not the point of life. You have got to thrive'. Coincidence? I think not.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1deol1q/meghan_markle_liked_being_foxy_on_suits_but_felt/

A well-written post, with many references, describing the hypocrisy and pretentiousness of Nutjob.
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Some tea about her cooking show:

"I got some tea this week from people I know in the industry who are the backbone but last on the rolled credits. She filmed with Sony independent productions over a 5 day period and is shopping a small pilot to Hulu and paramount. This was not done with WME, Netflix said naw and so she had to go independent."

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1deo300/paramount_global_owner_shari_redstone_calls_off/
Sandie said…
A very interesting post on IPP ... The duo are trying to attain status they do not have:
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Where it gets sticky is how the British royal family defines IPP. It is generally understood that the BRF has three classes of IPP:

The sovereign, their consort, their heir, and the heir's immediate family = permanent IPP status, full-time security, full-time diplomatic status (visa and immunity)

Working members of the royal family = occasional IPP status only when carrying out official duties representing the soveriegn and monarchy; security and diplomatic status only when working on behalf of the sovereign/monarchy.

Family members of the sovereign (aka everyone else) = no IPP, no security, no diplomatic status.

Which is where RAVEC comes in. Harry's lawsuit(s) revealed that RAVEC is the decisional body advising which royals get state-funded security and when. Which Harry, and the general public, has largely interpreted to mean that if RAVEC is advising on security, then RAVEC is deciding who gets IPP.
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https://www.tumblr.com/brf-rumortrackinganon/753211816083177472/hi-dont-know-if-you-have-any-special-knowledge?source=share
Sandie said…
Another interesting excerpt from that post:

The root of Harry's lawsuit is that he believes he's a Category 1 IPP but he isn't. He hasn't been since 2013 when George was born, and there's a few indicators that this was understood behind the royal scenes, with the most obvious one being the 2012 LP that afforded titles and privileges to the heirs of the heir of the heir to the sovereign (e.g., William's kids only, excluding Harry's kids).

So in 2013, Harry was downgraded behind the scenes to a Category 2 IPP. Then he met Meghan and she thought he was a Category 1 IPP - her infamous "linked not ranked" statement and all the PR naming them as "my father's son, my children's grandfather, my grandfather's children, my grandmother's favorite, my grandmother" makes it clear she saw them through family only - so Harry also thought he was Category 1.

So when they megxit'd, they thought they'd stay Category 1 royals with permanent IPP because they see themselves as "immediate family of the heir" -- but they were Category 2 royals/part-time IPP and qhen they megxit'd, they quit working, which dropped them down to Category 3 royals/no IPP.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dfizv2/hm_to_split_their_time_between_the_us_and_uk/

The rumour of them buying property in the UK and splitting their time between the UK and the USA keeps coming up. It semms to have been started and is being spread by self-proclaimed royal experts.

I can believe that this is what he wants, but Nutjob does not.
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The rumours about trouble in paradise continue:

Blind Items Revealed #3
June 4, 2024

Things were so tense at a big party between the hosts this past weekend in the rich enclave up the coast that guests bailed as quickly as they could just to escape what was going to be some type of blowout fight.

Prince Harry/Meghan Markle/Montecito

POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 9:20 AM 83

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dfhdin/moretheyre_fighting_each_other_bis/
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2021.12.27-200135/https://airmail.news/issues/2020-1-25/an-open-letter-to-harry-and-meghan

An interesting article ... I think Charles will start the process of sorting this out and William will complete it, in a drastic way.
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The royal family does not receive sufficient income to keep its humbler members in the style to which, quite wrongly, they think themselves entitled. The consequence is that they accept hospitality from unlovely people, and cash from folk whom it is wise to count one’s fingers after shaking hands with. Even the Prince of Wales has been guilty of the former practice: remember the borrowing of yachts from Greek shipping tycoon John Latsis.

Some lesser royals accept largesse from socially ambitious people whom they repay by inviting them to the Royal Box at Wimbledon, the Queen’s afternoon at the Chelsea Flower Show, or—in the case of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, as guests of Prince Andrew—parties at Windsor Castle and Sandringham.

Family members are unwilling to acknowledge a truth obvious to everybody else, that any yacht-owner eager to lend them his gin palace is, ipso facto, somebody whom it is rash for them to be indebted to. That they will do so anyway is one near certainty about the Sussexes’ future in North America. The earnings that royals or ex-royals can generate from their talents, as distinct from their celebrity, would scarcely cover the services of Meghan’s manicurist.

Once again, the keyword is “discipline”: the need for somebody acting as chief executive—even if no monarch would countenance conceding that title—to establish and set before the Family a template of conduct, especially financial conduct, for all those who wish to remain royal.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dfb5l5/amanda_platell_i_understand_king_charless_desire/

I do not believe the story about Charles being desperate to see his American grandchildren and bring the family back in the fold. Remember all the stories they put out about the late Queen? This is the duo trying to grab status and royal commentators are playing along.

This is the story in the DM:

https://archive.ph/2024.06.13-120609/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13517257/AMANDA-PLATELL-understand-King-Charless-desire-Archie-Lilibet-heres-wary-bringing-Harry-Meghan-fold.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
abbyh said…
Sandie,

This kind of reminds me of the uproar when TQ wanted to have updated pictures of the line of succession. The ones of them doing the cooking.

Remember?

At the time, there was hoopla about him not being there, coming off as noses out of joint but it was also mentioned (well, at least I think here) that neither was George's siblings. And, they outrank him in the LOS.

Thinking of those photos, have they done updated ones with KC?

snarkyatherbest said…
oh breaking news Catherine atTrooping in a carriage with her kids. oh my the dishes are flying fast and furious in Montecito.

btw says her chemo treatments are ongoing. makes you kinder if they had to start and restart if she was sick during it or if they stretched it out. what an awful thing she and every cancer patient goes through
abbyh said…
Yippee!

Looking forward to seeing the pictures (and hearing the cheers of support).
Just broken news: Catherine will be at TtC tomorrow (announced BBC1, 18.59)
Maneki Neko said…
Apologies for the typos, I was typing quickly. Trooping the Colour.
The DM article has a message from Catherine. It will be good to see her for the moral of the nation.
Sandie said…
Big smile from me to see Catherine at TTC tomorrow!
KC said…
Oh how wonderful to read that Catherine will be at TtC. She is King Charles' beloved daughter-in-law so it seems fitting that she will attend to pay respect to the monarch.

Haven't been here in so long, I just had to have an extended Harkle-cation. The atmosphere here is much more peaceable but still focused on finding facts.

Happy Flag Day to all Americans sticking with Nutty and crew! (Yes we have that! And Independence Day on July 4, and Constitution Day/Citizenship Day Sept 17.) We gave up hereditary aristocracy (for the most part;looking at you, Kennedys) but we still commemorate our country. Have a great weekend and enjoy the Trooping the Colours!
Sandie said…

From X:

@KateMansey
The Princess's attendance at tomorrow's Trooping the Colour was considered so significant that the Palace to alerted No.10 and The Cabinet Office who, in turn, have informed the opposition political parties
Maneki Neko said…
Here is Catherine's lovely message in full. She states the situation simply and appears positive. She speaks from the heart. What a contrast with *, the perpetual victim, crying in South Africa 'Not many people have asked if I'm okay'.

'I have been blown away by all the kind messages of support and encouragement over the last couple of months.

'It really has made the world of difference to William and me and has helped us both through some of the harder times.'

'I am making good progress, but as anyone going through chemotherapy will know, there are good days and bad days.

'On those bad days you feel weak, tired and you have to give in to your body resting. But on the good days, when you feel stronger, you want to make the most of feeling well.

'My treatment is ongoing and will be for a few more months. On the days I feel well enough, it is a joy to engage with school life, spend personal time on the things that give me energy and positivity, as well as starting to do a little work from home.

'I’m looking forward to attending The King’s Birthday Parade this weekend with my family and hope to join a few public engagements over the summer, but equally knowing I am not out of the woods yet.

'I am learning how to be patient, especially with uncertainty. Taking each day as it comes, listening to my body, and allowing myself to take this much needed time to heal.

'Thank you so much for your continued understanding, and to all of you who have so bravely shared your stories with me.'
(DM)



Ian's Girl said…
I have probably let myself get too worked up about this, but "equally knowing I am not out of the woods yet." sounds ominous to me.

I will tell myself that she just means she still has treatments to get through, but it could be taken very differently.
Magatha Mistie said…

Evergreen

Looking forward to Trooping
can’t wait to see Kate
Bearing the Standard
for Pa, Head of State
Hope springs eternal
from her latest photo
Resilience, Strength
Powerful mojo…

Maneki Neko said…
@Ian's Girl

I think by 'not out of the woods yet', Catherine means there's still a long road to recovery. She talks about good days and bad days and she still has a few months of treatment ahead, so it's not over. Anyway, it takes 5 years to be in complete remission. I think Catherine wanted us to know that although she'll make an appearance today, this doesn't mean she's back for good.
Magatha Mistie said…

Singed

All Quiet on the Western Coast
Jam didn’t set
realised they’re now toast
Expect a sting
from her poisonous dart
Par for the course
Unsavoury Pop Tart…

There's excellent writing here today - I heartily concur with these sentiments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dg4dyo/why_were_here_and_why_we_post_here/
Oh dear, the weather forecast for TtC is terrible: `Thundery showers'. See https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643743

So no open carriages, everyone on the street likely to be soaked, worse than Coronation Day in '53. Such a pity, everyone keep their fingers crossed that there are some well-timed intervals during the proceedings.
Sandie said…
LOL! Yep, she is trying to overshadow the appearance of Catherine at TTC. Nachos received jar 2 of 2 of raspberry jam, and a jar of dog biscuits. This is pathetic.


https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dgc2vb/meghan_the_petty/#lightbox
Sandie said…
Will not be diffucult to find pictures of Catherine ... looking skinny but gorgeous ... impeccably so! DM probably has the best coverage:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13533131/kate-middleton-seen-public-time-cancer-trooping-colour.html

Keep scrolling in the DM article as there is an awesome photo of Charlotte.
Catherine looks very sombre in some photos and I wonder if she is not fighting off nausea or simply in deep reflection of her role. Kudos to the Brits for defying the rain and turning up!

A jar of raspberry jam and one of dog biscuits. The insanity of it is beyond comprehension! Shame on you Nachos for going along with the insanity. He posted just before midnight. That is the level of desperation.


Sandie said…
Enty at CDAN is having fun:

Blind Item #7

The first step in the split is to have a home in his home country. You know the alliterate one won't go there and he will be safe from her pleas which would soon turn to making his life miserable.
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I wonder what hepless thinks of her jam and dog biscuits stunt. I do think Nachos and his wife are trying to be kind and gentle with the deranged wife of a friend, but encouragement of a toxic narc is the worst thing you can do.

As for the swirling rumours about divorce and hapless moving back to the UK ... He would lose his children (a Californian court would give her custody plus a very generous monetary settlement, which would bankrupt him). If he does leave her, he would stay in Los Angeles, in my opinion.
Sandie said…
Because of the time difference, she did not know about Catherine's appearance at TTC when Nachos posted about the jam and dog biscuits. She was doing her usual of piggy backing on the royals to get coverage and thus drive up her numbers. But, she does not have a company and she has no products to sell, so this was purely to get attention.

Meltdown in Montecito when she woke up to Catherine the Great!
Luckily, the rain held off until the royals were about to depart - Catherine & the children were safely aboard the Scottish State Coach when the heavens opened. His Maj. and the Queen left a few seconds later and managed to dodge the worst of it.

My favorite moments were watching Charlotte bravely wiping the condensation off the windows of the carriage as the rain bounced off the roof. That and seeing the Princess of Wales, of course, such a joy. Lady Louise looked beautiful as well, as did the Queen and Sophie, of course. (HMQ in pale eau de nil, Sophie in yellow.)

I also thought the King looked good for a few more years yet, thank heaven.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I don't think *'s pathetic jar of jam could compete with Catherine. I must say Catherine looked remarkably well but the children seemed a bit subdued, at least in the carriage. It was reassuring to see her, especially looking so well, and we as a nation needed that.
Really?

DOG BISCUITS!?!

She truly is a ridiculous clown!
The Princess of Wales is beautiful! I hope the media leaves her be and let her get her health back and use the summer months to getting well again.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I didn't realise the jam was raspberry and not strawberry! There is no end to *'s talents. And dog biscuits! Oh dear, how the mighty have fallen! That's really scraping the bottom of the barrel. And to think that had * accepted her role like Catherine she and H would have been on the balcony today instead of flogging dog biscuits. That's a shame, innit?
Ian's Girl said…
Catherine looked magnificent, and it's all I can do to not do all caps on magnificent; she was stunning. Soooo thin, but gorgeous. She looks even younger, somehow. I am just gobsmacked by how lovely she looks, especially after all she's gone through.

I don't usually like her tendency towards having the entire family coordinate, but the nautical theme was beautifully done.

I did notice that the tailoring on the front of her gown, below the waist, seems slightly baggy. That's the wrong word. Let us say it seems to be made to allow for some extra draping, or fabric. And I also noticed she smoothed it down as she got out of the carriage, and a few other times, as well. I'm probably imagining it.

@Maneki Neko, I hope you're right, and I agree that it could definitely be taken that way.

@Sandie,it was announced yesterday that Catherine would be at Trooping the Color, I think Nutmeg had plenty of time to make up 2 labels. She probably even had this phase all ready to go anyway, since TtC is always the same weekend every year. I think she would've released this cringey nonsense today anyway, in a laughable attempt to overshadow His Majesty.

2 of 2, could it get any more embarrassing?! Who makes 2 miniscule jars of jam?! The gauze wrapping looks like dirty bandages or wound dressing. Having the dog's name on the label would have gotten people talking a bit, instead of just having "dog biscuits" , which gives grocery store generic brand vibes to me.

Nutmeg just can't get anything right.
snarkyatherbest said…
if ever montecito want to counter the trooping/catherine lift today would be to trot out a clear and close up pic of the invisakids. and yet nothing ever not even cards, birthday pics those kids don’t live with them imo.
Ian's Girl said…
I must say, I miss seeing the entire family on the balcony. I don't remember if this is even an occasion where that happened, but it looks rather sad to see just a few of them.

I understand that they can't exclude the Harkles if everyone is included, but it was always His Majesty's intent to scale back, and I think they look dwarfed from a distance now.

Eau de Nil sounds so elegant, Wild Boar Battlemaid! And a perfect descriptor for that lovely pale green. I think Her Majesty always looks well turned out. I'm quite fond of her!
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: As for the swirling rumours about divorce and hapless moving back to the UK ... He would lose his children (a Californian court would give her custody plus a very generous monetary settlement, which would bankrupt him). If he does leave her, he would stay in Los Angeles, in my opinion.

He would probably stay in Los Angeles due to the drug and party scene IMO, not because of proximity to children. But about that monetary settlement: The court can't award what Harry doesn't have (well, they could try, but good luck squeezing water from a stone). Once she found that she couldn't use the alleged children for money, she wouldn't be able to get rid of them fast enough. The dogs will go back to whichever animal shelter is closest. This is all in my opinion, of course.

Blue Dragon said…
The Raspberry Jam jar looks like it was styled by Nora Batty's hosiery supplier.
SwampWoman said…
The person that should be very frightened of those divorce rumors is Ben Affleck. Hope he's surrounded by security spraying "Narc Away Spray" at all times.
Thus just shows what scum some republicans are:

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/trooping-colour-kate-cancer-appearance-b2563176.html

I thought this was bad enough at Margaret Thatcher's funeral:

`A few hundred people turned up to protest at Ludgate Circus, some shouting and others turning their backs, with other protesters picketing along the route'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_funeral_of_Margaret_Thatcher

`Common decency' is evidently far from common these days.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dh9b47/gossip_on_x_courtesy_of_maddyforcenow_our_saint/

I think this gossip is someone trying to get attention but not having the position they claim to have nor the information they claim to have.

However, it is supposedly 14 months since it was revealed she signed with WME and ... not one deal. Yes, they got her d5ome appearances, but none of those came with a contract that earned any money for nutjob or WME. So, it makes sense that the contract has quietly come to an end, and that she included some kind of non-disclosure clause in the contract she signed with them.

WME are professionals. The launching of a non-existent brand without even securing a trademark, the Nigerian circus, the filming of a pilot cooking show, not a signed deal series, the projects announced but not delivered, and now trying to steal attention from TTC and Catherine with a jar of raspberry jam and another of dog treats ... this is not how WME operates.



NeutralObserver said…
Just wanted to pop to say hello to fellow Nutties and get my two cents in.

Loved Trooping of the Colour. The RF got out its super stars and showed its class, even as its numbers are depleted by illness and other factors. Catherine looked gorgeous, as did the rest of her family. The King & Queen showed their mettle and dedication by being out in the drizzle for several hours. The A-team of the Windsors were out doing what they're supposed to do, represent the country and boost morale.

As to the 'others' in SoCal, they're not even bench warmers. They wouldn't be welcome on anyone's team, for reasons we've all discussed here since their ill-advised marriage. They wouldn't even qualify as trainers and towel boys, who at least have to be loyal and competent. They're more like the unsavory types who lurk around sports teams hoping to get inside info so they can place bets.

I don't know what the 'overseas' duo are going to do to support themselves. It would be nice if they could at least earn an income so that the UK taxpayers (or taxpayers anywhere) won't ever have to support them. I can't see what will ever work for them. They're too old and unappealing for a sex tape. LOL! Keep trying you two!
Sandie said…
It's not her fault... she has no control over what Nachos posted and when. We don't believe her.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-markle-didnt-mean-to-jam-up-kate-middletons-big-return-source
Maneki Neko said…
I came across an old DM article from a month ago about the Harkles' trip to Nigeria.

'Meghan, 42, told People magazine: 'We're just doing great. And happy to be watching our family grow up and evolve. Of course, I'm happy. We're really happy.''

Funny, we've never heard Catherine gushing she and William were really happy, yet they certainly are. There are times when she's keen to show us how unhappy she is , e.g. the SA tour complete with tear or the Oprah interview. As for Harry, he always looks much happier when the claw is not around, preferably in a different country. I don't know what the family is evolving into/ what it is evolving from - apes?

'She also described the tour as 'really meaningful', saying such trips were 'about us being able to go out and go and focus on the things that mean so much to us'.'
Is this a slight dig at the BRF because she couldn't do as she wanted? Surely they can focus on the things that mean so much to them, whatever that is, in the US? She's really full of it.

Girl with a Hat said…
FWIW, there's a lot of noise on X right now that Harry is in London and BP will be making "an announcement" soon. 🤔

Again, FWIW, but interesting nonetheless.


from a comment over at CDAN
Girl with a Hat said…
This is from a reliable X account I follow with ties to the Royal Family that has proven to be correct in the past. This individual is a US based divorce atty who also practices in the UK. They have been hinting that the separation was imminent for a few days. Also of note they state that once the pleading is filed the Superinjunction is lifted! See posts below.

from https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dhdo82/separation_was_supposed_to_be_announced_this_wkend/
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

The statement that 'of course, I'm happy, we're really happy' - why 'of course'? - made me think that all wasn't well in paradise or else why state that you're really happy, so there might be some truth in the info about a separation.
I didn't realise H was in London, he must have flown under the radar if so. It's all very intriguing.
It's often asserted that `they'll never split because she need him too much' or wtte.
I agree that she will never take action to divorce him, nor will she be a part of divorce by mutual agreement.

Were H to start proceedings against her is a different matter - she wouldn't have any say in it. It depends on whether H finally realises he doesn't want to be shackled to her any longer, regardless of her view on the matter. We may even notice an improvement in H's demeanour which suggests he's made up his mind to leave her and take action.

Whether H can afford the costs is something else - he'll want a subsidy from Pa, while she might turn to those shady characters whom we suspect of backing her.

On the bright side, I'm sure a Court Order could be issued to have the `children' DNA tested to see if H is really their father, assuming they exist, of course.

We just have to wait to see if there's anything in the rumour. It would be very funny if the big reveal was held back from this weekend, on the assumption that she didn't have to overshadow an appearance by our beloved Princess of Wales.

Hard cheese, Rachel. BTW, how does it feel to be Megsie No-Mates?
Hikari said…
Should Hapless come running back to Pa in the event of a divorce, I hope it is made manifestly plain to him that while Charles may provide some form of housing for the prodigal son, there is no question of him returning to Royal duties or profile. Never. He is to remain at least 30 miles away from any members of the Wales family at any time and MI5/6 will be watching to make sure he does. Any visits to London/requests to see the King must be cleared 2 weeks in advance. Any violation of this terms or public misbehavior will get him banged up in a rehab facility—preferably in the Shetland Islands and he can stay up there, out of sight out of mind. No phone or Internet…just a gimlet eyed Scots Guardsman named Alistair.

Maybe the RF’s long game will be revealed when the sham marriage is snnulled on the basis of fraud— There have to be several grounds constituting fraud—which will entitle her to exactly nothing of Harry’s. Let her try suing for child support in Family Court… I think any judge is going to need to see verifiable legal and medical proof that these children actually exist in her custody. I believe DNA tests could be ordered to ascertain any Royal link to these children or at the least papers demonstrating two fully legal and aboveboard adoptions of two minor children.

Kraken Krakatoa..,that’s what I need to see in 2024 along with the afflicteds’ clean bill of health.
Ian's Girl said…
The California court may ask for proof of their existence, althoughvI doubt that, but no DNA will be required, nor would it matter if the kids were found not to be his. He has raised them as his own and the courts routinely insist on men paying child support for children proven not to be theirs biologically, if they have been raising them unawares. The welfare of the child is considered paramount.
And likely, California would be otherwise on the hook financially, so the courts would always prefer to have responsibility assigned elsewhere.
Sandie said…
@GWAH
I question the validity of the X account of a supposed lawyer 'in the know'. But, the chatter is unconsciously tapping into reality. Is what we are seeing a death spiral or rock bottom with no way up? I remember the psychic prediction that we will see a full-on public spat between them, and that he will go off the rails. I doubt that there are super injunctions to silence people, but there are a lot of people whom they have forced to sign NDAs, and if the dominoes fall, they lose control of the situation.
----------

"I don't know what the family is evolving into/ what it is evolving from - apes?."

@Maneki Neko - a brilliant response to her meaningless word salad!

I have no problem with them keeping the children out of the public eye, but the bizarre way she talks about them makes them seem unreal.
Sandie said…
Although Archewell is no longer in Delinquent status, the charity founded by The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, hasn’t formally submitted all required tax documents. Archewell’s renewal documents for 2023 are missing from the California Registry of Charitable Trusts.

Last month, after the California Department of Justice flagged the charity as Delinquent, Archewell submitted records for 2022.

This time around, they are listed as Current—Awaiting Reporting. While this means they can continue their work, they’re still a month past the deadline of May 15, 2023. Even if the organization received an extension on filing the paperwork, their shoddy attention to detail should still be scrutinized by the public.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dhoyme/archewell_charity_listed_as_awaiting_reporting_on/

The poster goes on to say that Archwell does not have dozens of donors or sources of income and so should not be difficult to manage.
Sandie said…
https://www.tumblr.com/brf-rumortrackinganon

Plenty of updates, with some interesting comments/speculation.

Both wanted to get married quickly. He needed to lock her down before the glamour wore off and she bolted. (I do think there is validity in this as she got the attention and fame she wanted just by being his girlfriend, but she was demanding security, funding and PR from the Palace from the start of the relationship going public, so she was dead set on getting it all.)

Charles is paying for their security, but it is the minimum and so not good enough for them. They want the security that the King and Queen and William and his family get. Even if he does win his appeal and get a re-evaluation from RAVEC, he still does not qualify for the security they want.

As for a divorce:

"I used to think their divorce case would be Johnny and Amber 2.0, but I'm getting Brangelina vibes now, just how protracted and how drawn out it is. They separated 6 years ago, there's all this back and forth, the FBI was involved at one point, and now the kids are coming out saying that Brad Pitt is awful and they want nothing to do with him.

I can see that happening with the Sussexes. It's just a matter of which parent the kids will hate."

My mistake has always to think rationally about a divorce. She would love the attention of a public legal battle like Johhny and Amber, but being papped with the children like Angelina (and turning up for Hollywood events with them) would also suit her. An LA court would be favourable to her for custody and a divorce settlement. Would he fight for his children? How much power would the royal family have in sabotaging that for her and how would they do that? Purely speculation: how do you think divorce and custody would go down, and what would happen to her afterwards? Bankruptcy, pap walks, brainwashing her children to hate their father and the royal family, Fergie type home shopping deals that get her attention but not much money, dating some shady but very rich men ...?
@Ian's Girl
Much depends on who divorces whom. If papers are filed in the English Courts by H, it could be very different from what would go on in CA. If H has any sense (questionable, I know) he'll file in England.
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@Ian's Girl
Much depends on who divorces whom. If papers are filed in the English Courts by H, it could be very different from what would go on in CA. If H has any sense (questionable, I know) he'll file in England.


She has to know that; therefore, I believe that she would attempt to file first. Whether she could afford the legal fees, well, that's another problem. I expect their financial assets are largely gone. Buying all those awards in order to look important isn't exactly inexpensive. The upkeep on that dreadful house in California is way above their pay.

Harry would probably do better on a very short leash with no money of his own to spend on drugs/alcohol. He could be put to work, as many have said, for room and board, with little to no financial remuneration. Mucking out stalls, cleaning out kennels, mowing grass, simple, repetitive work that even he couldn't screw up (but I may be overestimating what he is capable of).

Many a dad here has been financially tasked with upkeep of an ex and children such that they cannot afford to live. Some turn to criminal enterprises. Some of them give up entirely, unable to afford even minimal housing, and join the homeless and/or work in the underground economy.

/This is why I've always insisted to my children that they need to be able to support themselves AND their children without relying on the other partner's help. And why we provide the grandparent daycare thing.
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2024.06.17-134336/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13536053/REBECCA-ENGLISH-real-reason-Kate-determined-join-kiddies-Grandpa-Wales-balcony-plus-Palace-source-did-asked-King-Harry-grandchildren-summer.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

A story about the King's relationship with his grandchildren ... and this telling bit:

"When I asked a well-placed source whether Harry could bring his children to see the King at Balmoral this summer as a compromise, the answer was a resounding snort. Read into that what you will."
Sandie said…
People are still posting memes about the jam. I chuckled over this post from Anon:

'I mean I’m still sat here waiting for all the compassion in action … and all I’m seeing is jam. BLM, nothing. Women’s rights, nothing. Equal pay, nothing. Nothing nothing nothing. Just jam, jam that my 5 year old can make in an afternoon with their granny."
@Sandie

Indeed but it's still remarkable that she knew so little of how things run in the UK.

Even Brits make silly assumptions about the law and so come a cropper - and even if one is correct about a law, it's only up to a point because there are so many other subclauses, provisions and exceptions lurking below the surface, waiting to scupper you.

For instance, you can be awarded costs - and then find that you only claim the money by applying to court (more expenditure) and you can spend more than you're claiming and it's best to drop the matter That's my experience.
Hikari said…
IG,

I agree absolutely that the welfare of the children is paramount—which is why the best possible outcome in my view is, and always has been that the children are figments of the Harkles’ rancid imaginations. Neither of them are remotely fit to be parents and it could be argued that over these last 5 years, neither had given a convincing performance of being a parent, notwithstanding that they seem to have begged or bribed various contacts and doll catalogs to provide them with facsimiles of “their children” for photo purposes. If the Harkles do have two children in their custody, the life and future of those misfortunates will be an unimaginable hell. At midlife I am coming to grips with being raised by a narcissistic mother and I wouldn’t wish it on a dog. Not forgetting that some innocent dogs are also embroiled in this narc shit show.

I was wondering, having never been through this process myself, what manner of proofs and documentation a parent seeking custody/child support is required to provide to the court. Does the judge need to see such things as birth documents, medical records, reports from social workers/hospital/CFS in the event of allegations of abuse or neglect? With the judge need to have the children presented to him/her in the flesh to see that they are thriving and well cared for?

It doesn’t seem likely to me that a judge would award sole custody of two unseen children plus potentially millions of dollars a year in child support without ascertaining that legitimate parenthood exists. And as far as the royal family is concerned in terms of supporting or funding Harry’s bid to become custodial parent… I think they would need to be satisfied as well that there are actually two living minor children in need, and perhaps the vigor of their support would be contingent on whether these children can be proven to have been fathered by hairy or at the very least legally and properly adopted by the couple. I want what’s best for any real children of course, but to my view that would be being given new parents altogether.

Neither of them should be around impressionable children, and to my mind there is ample evidence that neither is able to produce children the normal way. Hence all the subterfuge. IMO, both of these “kids” have been a giant grift from the get-go. TOW isn’t going to let go of this con if she can bilk cash out of the RF for the next 20-odd years (The bairns will need expensive private schooling as they get older, you know…and holidays, uniforms, braces probably…TOW could ride this gravy train for years to come, laughing all the while at the gullibility of the world.

I’m just asking for the court to make her PROVE she is a mother, beyond a doubt. No more smoke and mirrors, rented kids, black-and-white shots of toddlers from the back. No. Let her present master Archie and lady Lili in a courtroom along with all their properly ordered documents and there won’t be a problem.

I think the courtiers at BP are snorting at the prospect of Harry bringing the children to Balmoral because simply put —NO ONE has EVER seen any Sussex Spawn in Blighty. These kids are like Harvey the rabbit in that Jimmy Stewart movie. As to why the RT birth circus was permitted and the Harkles were allowed to gambol with a doll in the Great Hall at Windsor Castle, you got me. Head scratcher mejeure. But every photo representation we’ve had of these kids is a proven fake/imposter. I don’t know what other conclusion can be drawn, other than a Sussex divorce would certainly unmask these shenanigans.
Mel said…
'She also described the tour as 'really meaningful', saying such trips were 'about us being able to go out and go and focus on the things that mean so much to us'.'
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And what exactly are those things that mean so much to them?

They:
watched a soccer game,
staged some guys in a make-believe hospital,
played twirly something with some little kids,
went to a dinner where they refused to sing the national anthem, instead pretending like it was being played for them,
got herself named some title or another.
accepted gifts which they seemed to think weren't good enough,
indulged her exhibitionist tendencies
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie. archwell may not have many income sources but getting the expenses straight maybe an issue. one hand in the cookie jar (or dog biscuit jar) comingling funds with a personal checking account etc. all making it difficult to submit the forms.

i’m with you on this hikari. i hope there are no children or they are safely away from the harkles. i did one see a magazine with christmas projects and there was a kid who was a doppelgänger for master archie. and would have been published a bit after the christmas card with dangling lillibet it was uncanny the similarities.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dieb98/a_day_without_laughter_is_a_day_wasted_and/

A sample of the humour in social media at the above post. My best: Trooping the Jam!
@Hikari

I can envisage a Court taking the children away from both H&$M on the grounds that neither `parent' is fit to be their father or mother.

It's extraordinary that apparently archaic laws, to prevent usurpers being smuggled in to the Royal family (born of the body rule) and to protect a monarch's grandchildren from their parents (regal custody of grandchildren rule), are still highly relevant several hundred years after previous crises.

Let us hope that the children are like everything else believed by the Harkles, mere delusions.
Sandie said…
News from Montecito (I think this is true but she is insincere ... she is very good at glib word salad that means nothing, and everything is always about her):

"Harry and his wife Meghan are now ready to end their feud with the Royal Family, according to an insider.

The source told Closer: "Meghan's desperate to come across as the bigger person and end this feud between them – appearing like some sort of royal saviour could only do her image good.

"And, despite all their bad blood, her heart does go out to Kate - she can only imagine how hard this situation must be for her.

"Meghan has made it clear she'd love nothing more than to move past all the nonsense and find a way towards healing for everyone's sake. She's ready to let the anger and bitterness go.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/prince-harry-meghan-markle-kate-middleton-royal-family-feud
Ian's Girl said…
Oh, I bet they do indeed want to end the feud; they've finally realized they are nothing without the Royal Family. Hazmat himself counts as nothing after the way he has allowed, and actively participated in, the trashing of his family, especially his grandparents.

I hope the family don't allow themselves to be fooled. They have to find a way to keep the Grifters well away from Royal life.

I don't think Nutmeg would be able to stop causing trouble, even if she sincerely tried. She is simply too narcissistic for it to ever work. They lack self awareness, empathy, and the ability to see any viewpoint but their own.

And most importantly, I think Nutmeg absolutely hates Catherine. That situation is never, ever going to change and it would be literal insanity to think any good would come of trying to make it work. She needs to be kept well away from Catherine. I am quite certain William and Catherine both know this and will not stand for any kind of returning of the prodigal pair.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

So TO &TOW are 'now ready to end their feud with the Royal Family', are they? If this is true, they must be after something. I can't see * in a forgiving, conciliatory mood, that's just not her. I don't think she has ever had any empathy towards anyone, least of all Catherine. After all, they were demanding an apology not so long ago, ‘Meghan is pushing for an apology’ from Royal Family after reports of reconciliation' (GB News April 2024). H also demanded an apology from William before re-uniting with the Royal Family. IMO, either the info is not true/just a rumour or else the Harkles are up to something. Either they need money or they want a big favour (stopping the release of damaging information? My imagination is running away with me!).
The Sussex money is vanishing and no invitations to Africa. It is as simple as that.
And after all the total failures they have managed in everything they have tried they expect to return "home" as the number one "power couple" of the British Royal Family!!

That's this one and that one for you!
Magatha Mistie said…

Beggars Belief

Finally it’s dawned
nowt left to be pawned
Time to return
to the family they’ve scorned
Run out of cash
done their dash
All their pipe dreams
blown in a flash
Their nasty, vicious
attacks on the Royals
Ultimately robbed them
of their specious spoils
No more carriage
for the whore and baggage
No coming back
you’re stuck with your marriage…

Magatha Mistie said…

Bonio and Sobriquet
Says it all
End of play

Fifi LaRue said…
I've read somewhere that someone surmised that Mrs. Dog Biscuit is a million in debt, and Hazmat has no idea because he's never handled money in his life. He's too dense to figure out why Mrs. Dog B. was half naked in Nigeria the entire time. At some point the creditors will come pounding at their door wanting to collect. He better buy that residence in the UK so the creditors can't get their hands on all of his assets.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Beggars Belief - yes, it does! Your poem says it all.
Ian's Girl said…
Magatha the Magnificent strikes again! You keep me in stitches... thank you so much for brightening a difficult week!
OCGal said…
Too good not to share: comment by Cool-4-Catz on Reddit:

“A comment I read on Youtube - ‘Omid Scobie is writing a new book called The Liar, the Witch and the Kids in the Wardrobe.’”
There's a stunning photo of Prince William at

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1djkoiv/now_i_am_reading_coded_meassages_in_chris/ headed `Now I am reading coded meassages in Chris Jackson's tweet of Prince William at Royal Ascot. It's giving Calm before the storm'

I'd go much further than that.

It has the power of the iconic photo St Paul's in the Blitz by Herbert Mason .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s_Survives `St Pauls in the blitz'

Never mind the `touching up, Mason's photo was and is still a symbol of hope and resilience. We shall come through all of this.
Sandie said…
Some tea from someone who works at the same PR company that represented her. People who worked on her account were always crying and were terrified to talk about her because of the NDAs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1djrqcp/mild_tea_about_the_saint_from_a_person_who_worked/
Maneki Neko said…
'The royal family is clearing out its archives.

As such, it appears Prince Harry's powerful 2016 statement that not only confirmed his romance with Meghan Markle, but also defended her from racist abuse, is no longer traceable on the royal family website.
...

...Harry has expressed how important it was for him to defend the woman he loved.

"We needed a statement out there—within a day we had a draft," he recalled in his 2023 memoir Spare. "Strong, precise, angry, honest."'

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/royal-family-removes-prince-harrys-2016-statement-confirming-meghan-markle-romance-from-website/5455895/

I wonder why the above has disappeared.

On some other website an article suggested '10 Life Lessons Prince Harry's Girlfriend Meghan Markle Can Learn From Kate Middleton'. Would that * had followed them.

1. All Eyes Are On You (So Always Look Your Best)
2. Let Your Haters Be Your Motivators - in other words, rise above it
3. Learn Your Manners
4. Never Complain, Never Explain
5. Don't Underestimate Your Smile - a genuine one
6. There's No Limit for That Wedding
7. Make Sure You Get Along With the Family
9. Private Dates Are Still Possible
10. Remember to Give Back- * never knew how to, never mind remembered

Most of these 'life lessons' are just very good advice that doesn't even need spelling out. * has consistently ignored them all, number 6 being a notable exception.
Sandie said…
Meltdown at Montecito? A few interesting excerpts from the comments at the above Reddit post:

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I found it very telling that in The Cut interview, she mentions she didn’t have to sign a NDA when she joined the Royal Family: ““It’s interesting, I’ve never had to sign anything that restricts me from talking,” she reveals, as she ushers me toward the door. “I can talk about my whole experience and make a choice not to.” ”

Why would she think she would be required to sign a NDA when marrying into a family? The BRF has always trusted that their family members had a sense of discretion and loyalty, like any family. It’s another example of how all her relationships are transactional.
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“these two were utter assholes, they upset anyone within range. The staff were going on sick leave…”

“sources spoke of shouting fits and diva demands as well as a failure to understand the palace machine could not function like a Hollywood PR team.”

“A "palace veteran" told Brown: "If you are an actress on a TV show in America, you have a number of staff who are literally paid by the hour to work for you. So your business manager, your agent, your stylist, maybe your publicist et cetera, are there to meet your demands without question. You are therefore never wrong, and it is all exactly what you want. It's just billable hours. But when you move to a situation where you've got full-time members of staff who work for an institution—the palace—they're employees, not contract people, they work within a policy framework. There are rules around accepting gifts. There are rules around accepting hospitality. Not rules that we just make up, but because it's a public institution.”
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"staff were fed up with Meghan making demands of them in the run up to the May 2018 ceremony, at St. George's Chapel in Windsor. The insider said: "Meghan would say, 'I'll just do whatever you want me to do,' while meanwhile, she eventually got the chapel she wanted, the preacher she wanted, the choir she wanted, the dress she wanted, the tiara she wanted, the candles she wanted, the location for the after-party, the chef, the entertainment, the guest list. No one said no to anything."

“Harry had shouted at staff, which led to the story coming out in the media months later in November 2018. The palace source said there was "in-person shouting in front of other members of staff, basically in front of too many people, which is why it all started to come out and became the first-ever negative piece of coverage about the behaviour of the couple." (referring to tiaragate.)
Sandie said…
Halfway through the year, and here is a summary of rumours from https://www.tumblr.com/brf-rumortrackinganon/753752854911680512/2024-rumor-round-up?source=share

Confirmed

* Charles to make decision about Sussex children's titles after Harry's memoirs are published. (September 2022; BP concurred with Sussex PR that the kids are using Prince/Princess titles in March 2023.)
* Harry's book finishes him in the UK and with the BRF. He's done. (November 2022; no invite to the Grosvenor/Westminster wedding, Harry was excluded from the Sandhurst book, no invites or PR for Christmas and Trooping.)
* Sussexes to get Edward/Wallis treatment following publication of Harry's memoir - invites to funerals only, no private relationships. (January 2023; only Harry has been allowed back to Britain, no Meghan.)
* Harry's book to be a financial disaster, Harkles to lose a lot of money/end up in more debt. (January 2023; per the 2023 year end reporting, Spare sold significantly less copies than projected. Industry insiders hinted that Harry didn't make back his bonus and isn't earning profit from Spare until he earns back his bonus.)
* Meghan not invited to the coronation and will not attend, nor be allowed a private audience with Charles. (January 2023)
* Kate had 2 dresses for the coronation service. (May 2023; Embroidery detailing on the skirts.)
* Meghan crashed the special forces ribbon-cutting; only Harry invited to attend. (November 2023)
* Meghan and Harry not invited to the King’s Birthday Party. (October 2023)
* Sussexes not invited to Westminster wedding. (December 2023)
* Meghan didn't want Charlotte (and maybe George) to be a bridesmaid or involved in the wedding. (2018; confirmed in one of the 2023/2024 exclusives, or maybe even Spare.)
* Harry admitted military kills to justify need for private security, IPP lawsuits. (January 2023; Harry continues to claim that he's unsafe in the UK because of al Qaeda/the Taliban each time he comes back or his RAVEC lawsuit gets in the news.)
* William to get Order of Bath from Charles. (March 2023)
* Meghan to name Kate as the racist royal to undermine her work and reputation. (July 2023; Scobie wrote it so in Endgame.)
* Harry to go to the UK to visit Charles and Kate while they're unwell. (January 2024; 24-hour visit in February after Charles's cancer diagnosis. Harry was able to see Charles but William refused Harry's call to let him see Kate.)
* Harry and Meghan to change their surname from Mountbatten-Windsor to Sussex. (February 2024; interview at the Vancouver IG kickoff events.)
Kate to be on medical leave through end of summer; announcement at Easter time when she doesn't reappear. (February 2024; BBC video statement.)
* Sussexes not attending Grosvenor wedding. (April 2024)
* BRF to make public actions towards Harry (eg take him back or officially excommunicate) soon. (February 2024; demoted on the website.)
Sandie said…
Partially Confirmed

* Harry and Meghan to give second Oprah interview following public backlash from jubilee and funeral events, will name the racist royal. (September 2022; no Oprah interview but they did inform for Scobie's book Endgame, in which the names of the racist royals were leaked.)
* Superinjunction on Sussexes to expire around May 6, 2024. Surrogacies to be revealed and kids will be removed from the website. Harry and Meghan will rebrand the family as Sussex, but BP will ignore it and continue calling the children by their Mountbatten-Windsor names. (February 2024; no superinjunction or surrogacies revealed. The family did rebrand as Sussex, BP has ignored it, and BP doesn't call the children by their new titles.)
* William to attend Sandhurst's passing out ceremony in December. (April 2023; he attended the Naval Academy passing out in December.)
* Scobie's book will pick up where Spare left off. His new book is being "ghostwritten" by Meghan and Harry, who intend to use it for more attacks on the BRF. (November 2023; the book involved more than Spare's events but it was clearly influenced by the Sussexes to attack the BRF.)
* Sussexes to announce they've sent flowers and gifts to Charles and Kate following their health announcements. (January 2024; Meghan's PR claimed they sent well wishes.)
* Meghan to name the racist royals = Kate and Jason Knauf. (November 2023; Kate named in Endgame, Jason wasn't.)

Plausible

No evidence totally confirming or busting, but enough clues suggest it's true.

* Netflix docuseries was meant to be about the Archewell Foundation's work but scope changed to reflect behind the scenes/daily activities. (October 2022; Archewell posted an "impact video" in December 2023 of work they claimed was done in 2023 but many of the clips are from appearances they made in 2022. Meghan made the "impact video" to be able to use the footage for acclaim.)
* Sussexes banned from Carlyle Hotel for past behavior. (May 2023; they never stay there, despite it being one of Diana's favorite hotels and that's hinky.)
* Sussexes plan to use Scobie's book to highlight how awful the BRF is to bury the 'Harry's Nazi uniform' storyline on The Crown. (November 2023)
* Meghan was never invited to the coronation. (May 2023; hiking papwalk has echoes of her 2016/2017 MO - while the royals are royalling, she's papwalking.)
Sandie said…
I think it is Tom Quinn who started the rumour about hapless buying property in the UK. She used Vanity Fair to set the record straight:

"Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan Markle, have been without a home base in England since they vacated Frogmore Cottage last summer. Despite rumors that Harry’s ongoing legal battle over his security arrangement is a sign that he is interested in a more permanent spot in the country—where he and Meghan both have charitable ties—Vanity Fair can report that the prince is not looking for property in the UK."
...

https://archive.ph/2024.06.19-140209/https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-are-not-looking-for-a-home-in-the-uk?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&mbid=social_twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_brand=vf
Sandie said…
So, Nutjob and hapless, how's the 'year of reconciliation' going for you? And why were you frantically trying to contact the royal family ahead of TTC? And was being ignored the reason why she did the hasty and ridiculous stunt with raspberry jam and dog biscuits (I will not be ignored)?
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Theresa Longo Fans
@BarkJack_Rd
Prince Harry is actively enjoying time in the USA despite reports he’s ‘homesick’.

An exclusive source says H&M are fuming after their correspondence was not responded to promptly ahead of Trooping of the Colour!
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They made some attempt to call text email or write and were ignored.

https://twitter.com/BarkJack_/status/1803657174305972546
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IMO, he is enjoying living in America. He can do whatever he wants, make up his own rules, and does not have to think about stuff like duty, service, tradition, good manners, responsibility. He can smoke grass all day, play with his dogs and kids, and feel important. All he has to do is let his wife control and dominate him, and agree with everything she says and wants. Despite his body language sometimes showing annoyance with her, he fully supports her. I have changed my mind about divorce initiated by him.

The following video is doing the rounds, and shows how she has to be centre of attention. Description and video from Reddit:

"Madam makes horrid hand gestures, pushes herself in front of everybody, interrupts the Nigeria speaker and tries to steal Harry´s necklace. A sweet moment when she is forced to give Harry his necklace back and accept a smaller one. It ends with Harry trying to calm her down - and Madam of course placing herself smack in front of him."

https://youtu.be/-q88exOEyuU?si=Ds7My7Asblnc6KBy

In my opinion, he is not trying to calm her down but reassure her that she is special and he loves her and is on her side. He also unconsciously shows annoyance at her behaviour, so some cognitive dissonance there. I reckon he just lights another joint and ignores the problem/contradiction, but also genuinely believes that he loves her and she loves him. It's a mess!
I tried to make a post earlier today about this but may have forgotten to press `Publish':

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dj1rbt/truth_lets_make_it_known/

What do Nutties think?
VetusSacculi said…
Amid the noise about divorce, it has sometimes been referenced that the late Queen “ordered” Charles and Diana to divorce and that Charles could do the same with H. Is that actually possible? From a limited search, I can find that a strongly worded letter was sent to Diana following the Queen consulting with the Prime Minister, the Archbishop of Canterbury and Charles himself, saying that the only way forward was for them to divorce. As much as I would like to believe a split is imminent, any “ordering” it to happen requires Charles and H to communicate at least minimally and I’m not getting the feeling that’s happening. As Sandie points out, H is likely not motivated to put anything in motion - are we just waiting to see who blinks first?
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dkbgwj/jack_royston_newsweek_says_that_prince_harry/

Jack Royston is a huge admirer of the duo. The above post includes a clip from his podcast in which he urges the duo to call out the SS for their attacks on Catherine. Not because it is the right thing to do, but because it would be good PR. In fact, he advocates that they distance themselves from the SS because it is not good for them to be associated with such negativity.

I find his views astonishing ... how to fool the world that you are a good person by playing the PR game right!
Sandie said…
Fame-crazed Duchess Meghan Markle is crying after David and Victoria Beckham beat the Sussexes in the TV ratings game — and she's claiming, without any proof, her former friends somehow managed to manipulate the numbers to hurt her already plummeting popularity.

"Meghan's all over the place," tipsters dished to us. "Apparently, she's been really affected by these bad Netflix ratings and her friends are saying she's looking to pin the blame on anybody she can think of to validate the theory she and Harry have been sabotaged."

Now, spies claim fingers are being pointed at the Beckhams again – this time over an alleged plot to one-up the beleaguered Duke and Duchess by garnering better TV ratings.

"It's completely irrational," declared one tipster. "The Beckhams have nothing to do with ratings, but the word is Meghan's convinced they're conspiring to put them down in order to lift themselves up."

Since [losing Spotify], Meghan has desperately tried to fill their coffers by launching her lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard. But things got off to a shaky start earlier this year when she was ridiculed for sending out jars of homemade strawberry jam with defective labels.

https://archive.is/2024.06.20-140735/https://radaronline.com/p/meghan-markle-privately-blames-david-beckham-victoria-beckham-netflix-ratings-drop/
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/kNqw7Ykb0uM?si=iEJlK9G5NofMEqEe

I watched this video from Shauna earlier today ... Daniella Elser attacks George in the most despicable way possible.
Sandie said…
@WBBM
I checked the Reddit post and I am not sure if I understand it correctly. So, if we use the name 'Meghan Markle Duchess of Sussex', AI will recognize the content/opinion and include it in any replies?

It does depend on which AI system is being used as some are programmed to have bias. It also depends on how you frame a question/request.

Despite all the controversy about the X platform, the community notes are a good idea, and seem to me to be the best way to counter false narratives without being blocked or attacked. If someone posts a falsehood, you can correct the person through community notes. It is like a real time fact checking system. Even Elon Musk has been called out on a post using this system!
Hikari said…
Vetus,

The Queen ordered Charles and Diana to divorce after the Panorama interview when Diana betrayed Firm rules and mocked Charles’ suitability to wear the Crown. Diana had broken ranks and destabilized the future of the monarchy. It was a reckless thing to do and after the momentary triumphs of revenge wore off, she regretted having done it. But the damage had already been inflicted and there was no unringing that bell.

There’s no doubt that Harry has also been a chaos agent against the family, but he has got no relevance any more. It’s probably cheaper for Charles if the duplicitous duo stays unhappily married. So far the Grey Rock strategy has been working a treat. Ignoring narcs is guaranteed to drive them crazy, but I think that’s been the family’s MO since the Sandringham Summit. It’s clear now that Harry didn’t understand that when his father wished him “a happy life overseas”— Those were his walking papers. I think the relationship is completely severed and everyone in the family has washed their hands of Harry. For the last four ideas he’s been whining, refusing to accept his self-chosen state of exile ie his “freedom”. A divorced Harry would become their full-Time problem agajn and nobody wants that.
Fifi LaRue said…
Mrs. Dog Biscuit is getting really really desperate for attention sending out false reports that Mr. Dog Bowl is looking for property in the UK.

Then Mrs. Dog Biscuit is spreading the news that she's mad at the Beckhams, and blaming them for her failure to launch. It's a weird strategy--trying to stir the pot by faking a blow up between the Dog Biscuits and the Beckhams. The Beckhams will treat Mrs. Dog like the crumbly biscuit that she is, like ignore her completely.

Gawd she's icky!
Maneki Neko said…
Good article in the DM by Maureen Callahan about Catherine's public return.

A couple of excerpts

'Rather than indulge — as a certain duchess tends — in victimhood, self-pity, oversharing and navel-gazing, the princess expressed gratitude, humility, and a desire to celebrate with her family and the King, himself enduring his own cancer battle.'
...

'Here she [*] was in Nigeria just last month, cosplaying as if on official royal business, explaining how her Nigerian ancestry only made her that much more awesome.

'What has been echoed so much in the past day is, "Oh, we are so not surprised when we found out you are Nigerian." It is a compliment to you, because what they define as a Nigerian woman is brave, resilient, courageous and beautiful,' she said.'

* doesn't half fancy herself, does she?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13544585/kate-public-return-exposed-vulnerability-meghan.html

@Sandie

Well, if I do call her `Meghan Duchess of Sussex', you can be sure my `voice' will be loaded with scorn.

I started to watch the Shauna film but had had enough when she got to the Queen's so-called `Nazi salute'. That was shown to be a falsification - it's a still from movie footage of her waving goodbye to someone.

At least we know for sure now what Elser's affiliations are.
Magatha Mistie said…

Singalong 🎤
Apologies: Dick James
The Adventures of Robin Hood

Made Marmalade

Megin Dud, Beggin’ Pseud
Floggin’ jam again
Robbin’ Crud, Slingin’ Mud
Runnin’ out of men
Beard for glad lad
up to no good
Bobbin’ Hood, Dobbin Would
Chewin’ Cud…

Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki @Ian’s Girl
You’re welcome, getting harder to muster
enthusiasm to take the pee out of those
two, stale, pale, fail!
They’re managing to make fools
of themselves, again, organically
as seen on that Nigerian video.
Her desperation is palpable!!



Magatha Mistie said…

Quickie 😉🎤
Apologies: Stealers Wheel
Stuck in the Middle With You

Kneelers Deal

Well SoHo so different at night
I’m feeling this ho ain’t quite right
So scared I’m no longer a spare
And I’m wondering if that’s
her own hair

Doria to the left of me
Markus to the right
Here I am
Stuck in the Midden with you…



Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dks3hx/how_much_american_tax_payer_money_is_going_to/

Have a look at the photos. I thought their 'office' was at Mudslide Manor, and during lockdowns they were definitely filming from there. But if you look at all the photos above, the first few look as if it could be Mudslide Manor but the last shows clearly it is not. They have offices elsewhere? For what?

This PR stunt seems to be some volunteers packing donated toiletries into large donated bags, which will then be donated to some refugee organization. Maybe the duo will turn up fir the handover to get photos and good PR in the media. Or maybe they will remain in hiding! I suppose it keeps James Holt busy and makes him feel useful (and copies what actual royals do in the UK, at the actual refugee organization and not on a verandah facing the street in an unknown location).

Everything they do always comes across to me as a publicity stunt for their image, and practically to get donations so that they can pay for staff and all the costs of publicity stunts ... to get donations and good press (and pay for whatever they have to for the latter).

Anyone got any bright ideas of where these photos were taken?
Sandie said…
For clarity: When the Catherine and William turn up at a charity to help pack food parcels, cook food, whatever, alone or together, with or without their children, they are giving publicity to the organization (and sometimes they also make a financial contribution). I think the idea is that the public will regard volunteer work as fun and 'cool' and the cause as a good one, and will thus be inspired/encouraged to volunteer/donate.

Because they are not working royals or officially the monarchy as a part of government, the duo can be a lot more direct. Get attention by turning up to volunteer, look straight into the camera and speak directly without any word salad and minimal referencing of self: "You can help make your community a better place by clicking the link, signing up for volunteer work, and/or making a donation. Community by community, we can make life better for all so don't hesitate: click, volunteer, donate. I did ... and I am going to keep doing this, week after week, visiting different charities, asking you to volunteer/donate ..."

No, because the donations go straight to the charity if they do the above, so how do they cover their personal expenses if they can't 'wash' donations through their foundation? Sorry to be so negative and judgmental, but they have been doing this for years now and my opinion is that they do charity work to attract donations to pay for staff, overheads and other expenses, to get good publicity, and to grab a platform to make a speech and be photographed. Ego and greed!
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2024.06.19-233832/https://nypost.com/2024/06/19/entertainment/prince-harry-meghan-markle-reached-out-to-kate-middleton-before-her-trooping-the-colour-appearance-desperate-to-mend-feud-report/

Just a reminder of this story. Unfortunately she reveals herself in what she says, through a 'source'. I will let her speak for herself (my comments in brackets):
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle had reached out to Kate Middleton before her defiant return to the spotlight at last week’s Trooping the Colour ceremony, according to a report. (defiant?)

Despite not having seen the Princess of Wales since news of her cancer diagnosis came to light (it has been much longer than that), the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have reportedly extended an olive branch to the royal.

Meghan’s desperate to come across as the bigger person and end this feud between them — appearing like some sort of royal savior could only do her image good,” a source told the outlet. (this is about her image and putting her in control)

"Meghan has made it clear she’d love nothing more than to move past all the nonsense and find a way towards healing for everyone’s sake. She’s ready to let the anger and bitterness go,” the insider added. (typical gaslighting to dismiss the response to their lies and attacks as nonsense)

"There’s no doubt making peace with William and Kate would be a huge relief for Meghan on many levels, not least because it would also improve her reputation and, in turn, the new brand she’s cultivating,” they added. (she is trying to save her reputation and bolster her non-existent brand)
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The above is why I think the post from Nachos was an angry reaction to being ignored by the royals. It was poorly executed and did nothing but hurt her non-existent brand (except in her imagination). She lashed out because she is being ignored.




Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13554371/Happy-birthday-Papa-love-Kate-shares-fun-new-image-William-jumping-joy-George-Louis-Charlotte-leads-tributes.html

Screaming from Montecito! Buckingham Palace posted a black and white photo of Charles with baby William, and Kensington Palace posted a glorious photo of William with his three children.

Am I correct that birthdays of the duo and their children are not acknowledged by KP or BP ... because they are not working royals?
Sandie said…
What Diana said in that interview has been twisted and everyone now takes the misinterpreted version as gospel truth. She said she 'knows the character'; he would find the role of monarch too restrictive.

So she was not saying that he was unsuitable, or even that he could not do the job, but that, basically, he would not like being king because the role would be too restrictive for him.

Someone unsuitable for a role/job because of character can still take on the job/role and do very well, by putting duty above all else, but they personally would probably end up feeling unfulfilled.

That interview was a long time ago and what was too restrictive for a young Charles is not so for a man in his 70s. If Diana was alive today, she may well say something very different. But she was also unwise to say many things she did in that interview. She was going through a bitter separation and, like her younger son, was not wise in what she said. Don't wash your dirty laundry in public. It entertains the masses but serves no positive purpose unless you are trying to destroy someone and succeed in doing so. Neither Diana nor her younger son have succeeded in destroying or hurting or bringing down in any way those they are at odds with in the family.

Fifi LaRue said…
The Duchess of Frozen Todgers must have employed a strip mall PR firm for her latest round of carp that she's putting out. The money is gone, her debt is massive, and Mrs. is desperate.
VetusSacculi said…
Thanks @Hikari, you make some good points. The Charles and Diana situation had to be resolved with clarity as it involved the heir to the throne and the mother of the next heir. H is a step removed from that, particularly now William has children of his own. I just get frustrated as I live in Sussex and I’m tired of them touting that title/name around.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I agree with your comments in brackets (3.14pm). I don't believe a word of what she says. * is incapable of empathy. “They have had enough information to know that people are excited about the idea of a comeback for Kate and they’re both relieved and happy to hear that she’s on the mend and may soon be well enough to return to her duties" - 'people might be excited about the idea of a comeback for Kate', that doesn't mean that H&* are, particularly *. This offer of an olive branch is just for optics.
As I stood kneading my latest attempt at sourdough, I pondered the practicality of `Meghan Duchess of Sussex' producing 50 jars of jam in a domestic kitchen, in one batch, with her own hands..

Of course, we don't know the size of each jar (1lb or 12 ozs?) but to make 50jars in one go would need strawberries and sugar with a combined weight of about 35lbs, assuming she went for 1lb containers. That's 2 and a half stone, which needs a very big preserving pan and a powerful heat source to boil it up in a reasonable time.

If she if made 5 batches, each of 10lbs (unlikely, given her apparent aversion to real work), she has no idea what `limited edition' means.

We, on the other hand, have a strong suspicion that she was buying it in and repackaging it, presumably trusting the sacred touch of her holy hands to give it added value, its unique selling point.

This little thought experiment gives, IMO, weight to the theory that the jam was made by someone else, in an industrial kitchen.
Sandie said…
@WBBM
I had the same thought ... for the raspberry jam and dog biscuits. She bought the jam and dog biscuits, hastily repackaged them and sent them off to Nachos!

The strawberry jam? I think 15 people posted about the jam (or am I exaggerating?). She did not have 50 jars of jam, and, yes, I think she hired people to make the jam, do the packaging, and organize a courier, and her kitchen and home was not used for any of the work.
Sandie said…
It's a long article, but here is the gist of it:

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Front and centre of the new brand will, of course, be Meghan herself. According to a source with intimate knowledge of the launch, it will sell Meghan as a beacon of inspiration, aspiration and attainability.
Her style will be sold as affordably elegant, while her image will be centred on her status as both a family-orientated and ‘regal’ figure - no laughing at the back, please.
Customers will be urged to embrace their innate elegance, and to ‘elevate the everyday’.
We can reveal, however, that the much-publicised jams will not be first out of the traps as a money spinner for Meghan Inc. Indeed, they seem to be something of a red herring.
Rather, a source tells us that the priority is instead the launch of a... rosé wine.
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https://archive.ph/2024.06.21-162654/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13555475/Meghans-REAL-money-spinner-No-not-jam-lucrative-Netflix-deal-looks-key-making-Sussexes-millions-write-ALISON-BOSHOFF-RICHARD-EDEN.html

I know celebrity wines are a big thing in Hollywood, but I live in one of the major wine regions of the world and celebrity wines are just not a 'thing'. Even the packaging and marketing does not determine success for a vineyard and winery. It's all about the actual wine, and the price point. Vineyards that make a range of good wines do well and have a good brand reputation, without celebrities. So, she is going to get a vineyard in France to make bottles of wine for her and slap her label on the bottles. If it is a good wine, then she can take no credit for that at all.
Presumably she'll say she trod the grapes herself?
Fifi LaRue said…
Re: Megsy's wine: Since she's proved that she's trashy on a world-wide stage (naked in Nigeria) expect the wine to be just like her, on the order of Boone's Farm or similar. It's gonna be rot gut with a high price tag, just like Megsy. Except that Megsy can't get top dollar, nor middle dollar for that matter.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar, @Sandie

It's totally believable that * bought jam made commercially and repackaged it. When has she ever been known to tell the truth? Remember the banana bread she baked in Sydney after a full day of appearances and in spite of jet lag. Isn't she wonderful? (It was made by the staff at Australia House). Jam she may conceivably have made (doubtful) but dog biscuits? Who has ever heard of anyone making dog biscuits? And where did she get the biscuit moulds? I call BS.
That said, I hope your attempts at sourdough are successful, @Wild Boar.
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

* as 'a beacon of inspiration, aspiration and attainability'? I can't stop laughing! Can't these journalists get their facts right?

As for the wine, I presume she'll be picking selected grapes with her own fair hands and will write a label in her pretentious so-called calligraphy and hey presto, she'll flog some plonk at an inflated price. Will the bottles be numbered?
I couldn't open the link (the article is behind a paywall) but I still had a good laugh.
Sandie said…
If anyone wants to see a short video of royals at the Taylor Swift concert ...

https://x.com/freedom_007__/status/1804460358054109479
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Presumably she'll say she trod the grapes herself?


Well, that's enough to turn my stomach away from breakfast this morning!

Checking clock, sigh, too early for whiskey in the coffee? (Checking DNA estimates of ethnicity, noting stereotypical racial drinking proclivities, note that they are all in my DNA, straight coffee it is.)
`Bread and wine' O/T

@Maneki Neko

I'm getting better at the sourdough - it's edible, if somewhat solid. At least it wouldn't sink a seagull now!

@swamp Woman

I see you spell your preferred hard stuff with an `e'. Is that ethnically significant? I'm partial to a drop of Jameson's meself but Famous Grouse is my regular tipple.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dmet0o/stalking_goop_and_roasting_chicken_since_2010/

https://x.com/workingactress

Was she The Working Actress? It sounds a lot like her, but I do not think it is. It probably fits the profile of a number of wannabe Hollywood actresses, and she copies other people, so any similarities was probably because she was copying other wannabee Hollywood stars she encountered at auditions and on sets.

January 2010 to July 2012 is the time period for the blog. This is why it is not her:

She played the part of Rachel Zane for seven seasons (2011–2018) in the American TV legal drama Suits.

She was married to American film producer Trevor Engelson from 2011 until their divorce in 2014.
Sandie said…
Off topic, but I am still chuckling over this interaction (it is the reply that is pure gold)...

Anon (with reference to William and his family being at the Taylor Swift concert): "It's one thing about being a fan but obviously attending a concert with an obvious agenda of bedding the woman is what I find so outrageous."

the-mountbatten-windsors answered:
"You’ve had no real life interactions with people of a different gender and it shows. Please go out and socialise with them so that you can have evidence for yourself that you’re not attracted to everyone you meet. Also, nobody beds strangers in the presence of their children at a public concert unless they’re completely deranged. Your experiences in this regard are certainly not universal. I think you should rather be outraged by the fact that you haven’t sought help yet."
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dmdznn/thomas_markle_does_not_expect_meghan_to_contact/

Interesting nugget in one of the comments about the 11 years Doria was absent, with an `import/export' business.

We've all heard that euphemism before...
As ever, i should have added `allegedly'.
Hikari said…
Wild Boar,
I think “whiskey” is another example of American spelling, though I’ve heard there may be a distinction between bourbon and Scotch when it comes to adding the “e”. Is that what you mean by ethically significant?

I am a fairly recent convert to the tribe of whiskey drinkers… I’m dictating this message and just now on my American iPhone added to it… I like Jamesons, especially on St.Paddy’s Day, but my preferred brand is Crown Royal-very smooth. That’s quite a treat since a bottle of good stuff is so dear. Crown is gratefully accepted for Christmas and birthdays.

In the words of our late, great troubadour philosopher and Swampwoman’s fellow Floridian, Jimmy Buffett: “It’s five o’clock somewhere.”
snarkyatherbest said…
oh my. clever one prince william. Taylor Swifts pics are breaking the internet and the sussex squad can’t get too crazy because they will have the all powerful swifties to contend with. kinda like the cold war with hot scrimmages he has solidified his defenses and will let others fight that fight. 😉
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said:
@swamp Woman

I see you spell your preferred hard stuff with an `e'. Is that ethnically significant? I'm partial to a drop of Jameson's meself but Famous Grouse is my regular tipple.


It is the USA spelling. Odd, because there were large numbers of both Scots and Irish immigrants, but apparently the large influx of Irish immigrants (hello, potato famine!) was the reason for the the 'e' turning whisky to whiskey.

Time for HISTORY! Family members have traditionally been engaged in producing alcohol for home consumption (and sale) in an adversarial relationship with the Yankee government. It was particularly active during prohibition and the Great Depression during my grandparents' time. (Running moonshine was the origination of NASCAR, too.) We rarely have any alcoholic product on hand that has been purchased and still know local moonshiners. Our family members (mostly) engage in hobby level beer and winemaking (legal). The exception to no purchased/taxed alcohol comes from a local craft brewery making a nice pineapple rum and spicy vodka.

//If any of y'all are interested in the NASCAR/moonshine connection: https://www.nascarhall.com/blog/moonshine
Maneki Neko said…
OT

Whisky is the Scottish spelling but also the American one while whiskey is the Irish spelling and also Canadian.
Sandie said…
How dangerous are the duo? The following post joins some dots...

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dn9gu1/psathoughts_timing_of_jack_royston_article/
Sandie said…
More conspiracy ... how she created a fake personality to trap hapless:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dn684h/how_meghan_created_a_fake_person_designed_to_trap/

I am not convinced. The schools she attended emphasized 'being good'. Any volunteering she did was organized through the schools she attended, so she learnt from an early age that 'doing charity work' got you gold stars. This probably coincided with a time when Hollywood stars were creating a 'humanitarian' image for themselves, the most notable probably being Angelina Jolie, and of course there was Diana. She liked the idea of getting that kind of attention, so she weaseled her way into the UN.

She did not take acting classes nor do theatre work or get small parts in movies that would expose her to the craft of acting and film making, so her interest in acting was always about being famous and getting attention, and fantasizing about winning awards.

Everything she has done has been to get attention and to feed the grandiose view of herself, borrowing from whoever is in her orbit or whoever she saw featured in the tabloids, followed by paps and getting attention and having a fabulous home, holidays, friends .. She has never done or said anything original.

Her problem though was that she never earned enough money from her attention-seeking, no matter how much she hustled ... until she realized that there was a prince in the UK who had inherited a fortune from his mother and was very famous. He could not only make her very rich but also get her attention and open all doors for her.

The story they tell about how they met, in all its changing versions, probably has some truth to it. They might have crossed paths in Florida or Istanbul, as some have speculated, but she did not make an impression on him. She was not his type. So she did her research and adopted a persona that would be more attractive to him, cultivated connections in the UK, and finally found someone to arrange a blind date. Remember that after that first date, he went to visit a friend and smoke dope (they claim she kept the date short, but the truth could be the opposite), and she messaged him to seal the deal for the second date immediately.

She borrows from other people to create a persona, and her inspiration is what she reads in tabloids and other media. The prince was not her goal all along, but when their paths crossed, she became aware of him, did her research, and realized how much he could do for her, so she pursued him.
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The following video is an interesting compilation that summarizes all her tactics:

https://youtu.be/e8cFkZXx0yU?si=pUp1V4XPhOrsEP7C

When you see the tapping on the back, again and again, the hand holding, the two-hand clasp, the glares, the pushing ahead ... all in a fast-moving compilation, her true character is revealed.

I wonder if the two-hand clasp was not a sign of having to exert firmer control of him. Watch when it appears.
Sandie said…
Interesting ...

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First off, I was born and raised in Toronto. I knew of Meghan Markle's existence at least a couple years before she met Harry. My sister's friend, a freelance writer in the city, heard about an event that MM was either organizing or hosting (can't remember) in Toronto. Consensus about her behaviour toward staff was - and I quote - "she was a scathing b****". Now keep in mind, this likely would have been 2014/2015... she was an absolute nobody and there would have been no need to spread mistruths about someone so barely relevant. For me at the time, it was just an interesting tidbit of information about Rachel from Suits. My brother also met her once at a party. Nothing too interesting to report from his account lol, just that she was "super skinny" and "looked bored of everyone" and "didn't say hi despite being introduced". ...

Now onto Cory Vitiello. Meghan loves to correct articles that list dates that overlap the two relationships. I can tell you that the relationships ABSOLUTELY overlapped and she 100% did CHEAT on Cory with Harry. Everyone in Toronto within those circles knew that to be fact and Cory didn't hide the fact that she blindsided him. She moved out of his home only after her relationship with Harry became public. Now why was she even with Cory? Well, she's always been a social climber, we know this. And at the time (after being married to a producer only gave her a few non speaking roles in movies) she was using Cory to elevate herself... via the cooking world. ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/ots2xj/did_anyone_else_know_from_the_very_beginning/?share_id=z_XYmzw2vAPX3ehrSVdtN&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1


abbyh said…
Princess Anne had an accident with a horse and is in the hospital. She is expected to recover but will miss her planned activities for a week or so.

May she heal and continue her good work.
VetusSacculi said…
@Sandie said Everything she has done has been to get attention and to feed the grandiose view of herself

I think this is spot on - and her shallowness occasionally trips her up. Most recently it was after her Women in Leadership event in Nigeria when there were comments that she didn't have any real understanding of women's issues in the country. Earlier it appeared in her podcast episode about "bimbos" where she bemoaned that she wasn't appreciated for anything other than her looks on Deal Or No Deal. She referred to her internship with the US Embassy in Argentina:

"I had also studied international relations in college, and there were times I was on set at Deal or No Deal and thinking back to my time working as an intern at the U.S. Embassy in Argentina in Buenos Aires and being in the motorcade with the security of treasury at the time and being valued specifically for my brain. Here, I was being valued for something quite the opposite."

She talks about being valued for her brain, but doesn't (can't) even obliquely mention anything she was working on, some issues she was asked to research etc. No, what is important to her was riding in the motorcade because, you know, * has to be SEEN.

It's always the same - pull apart any of her word salad ramblings and you will find nothing substantial. If she had stayed in the RF, with the help of aides she could possibly have maintained a facade of being interested and engaged in something (they did a good job of making H at least appear socially acceptable) but she is so thirsty for attention it was never going to be enough. I think more and more people are seeing her for the vacuum that she is.
Ian's Girl said…
My God, what a year the Family have had. God bless and keep The Princess Royal, she is my favorite of them all.
Maneki Neko said…
@VetusSacculi

You're quite right in your assessment of *. She is very superficial, scratch the surface and there's notice. She just makes statements that are just empty words but are designed to sound intelligent. She never has any evidence to back up her claims. She pretends to be interested in a cause, like the 40x40 charity work initiative. That was a flash in the pan which was only to mark her 40th birthday. Everything has to be about her. At the Women in Leadership event in Nigeria, she arrived lated, didn't apologise but mentioned that she she'd been told to wear more colour. And of course, she told the audience she was part Nigerian. No style, no substance.
Magatha Mistie said…

Game, Set, Biatch

Give the dog a Bonio
left with runny jam
Taylor Swift, Will and kids
perfection, a Grand Slam…

Sandie said…
I think this is speculation from @secodhandcoke, but it is interesting (about the fallout from Spare). I wonder if similar scenes are not being played out about the fallout from Nigeria and ARO jams and dog biscuits? She would always blame someone else.

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There weree big fights between them over that book but Meghan told everyone who would listen, and seemed to truly believe herself, that what was in the book was going to change public perception and that people were going to read about Harry's lifetime of abuse (in the form of fewer sausages and a less picturesque view from his room) and be absolutely outraged and turn on the RF and file in line behind Harry and Meghan. She really believed wholeheartedly and told everyone that would listen A) how AWFUL Harry was treated as a child and B) how badly they were treated. She REALLy believes they were treated wrongly. The level to which she has been spoiled coupled with her narcissism has deluded her into truly believing they were mistreated.

She was SHOCKED when the book had the opposite effect. She stayed cloistered away in the Beverly Hills hotel the whole time watching the fall out, ignoring Harry as he sought advice and feedback during his book tour interviews, and screaming and crying at him for embarrassing her and humiliating her with this book. He started out arguing, "But I didn't want the book! You wanted the book! You read it before it was published and were excited about it! This was your idea!" And she denied all of that and gaslit him, saying she never wanted this, how could he do this to her, he's ruined them both... blah blah." Until he finally is in tears himself apologizing profusely, asking if she was going to leave him/begging her not to leave. She would never say one way or the other and he was desperate with fear and devastated that this book, which he didn't want to do in the first place, was going to end in her leaving him. He's almost certainly a borderline personality while she is a narcissistic sociopath.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1dm69zq/comment/la2bwbq/

BPD: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20370237

I don't think this fits him. I know someone with BPD and the meltdowns are so severe that they are scary. It is not the person's fault, which is why it is so tragic. They cannot maintain romantic relationships or keep a job. (The person I know has been stable for quite a while, after trying Ayahuasca therapy.) Neither Diana nor hapless have displayed a BPD meltdown. It is a disorder and is only classified as such when it interferes with normal functioning completely. Displaying some of the traits of BPD does not mean you have BPD.
Sandie said…
https://www.tumblr.com/the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara-1/754005296676044800/send-in-the-clowns

Was it a Beyonce concert they were at? This is another video of them dancing, together at the concert. What struck me: she holds into his hand even when he goes to have a sip of beer. He gets distracted easily.
Fifi LaRue said…
Borderline Personality Disorder has four sub-types: The Waif, The Recluse, The Witch, and finally, The Queen.
The four types are distinctive from each other, but there can be some overlap. Such as my mother was The Witch, with a bit of The Recluse thrown in. An excellent reference is Understanding the Borderline Mother.
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