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Will She or Won't She?

 I am talking about Catherine and Trooping the Color.

It's barely over a week away and will she/won't she decision is leaning toward not in public media.

The ceremony is almost three and a half hours beginning really at 10, parade starting 10:30 and flyover at 1.  

That's a long time even if you are sitting.  Especially if you have not been out in public in a long time plus you have or feel you have to be the face of being the parent while your spouse is busy being officially second to His Majesty.  And He won't be on a horse this time (uproar over tradition).

Yeah but, but ... what if she showed up for just part of it, like the flyover?

OH, that would be heartwarming after worrying about her as she has been coping with her disease.  

But ... eh, my guess is not.  Just because if she showed up, it would become the Catherine's back show instead of the celebration of the King's birthday.  And Catherine is known for being able to  be in the background in public royal settings which are focused on someone else (ie not spotlighting themselves).  

She might be ready to come back but may well decide this is not the time or the place to do that.  Marrying into any royal family comes with lots of opportunities to be gracious to the public but also to the other family members.  

(even so, between us, I'd clap if I saw her)




Comments

Hikari said…
@Fifi

Exactly. We knew all those luxury accommodations and free private jet flights would be expected to be repaid via Royal favor one day. Son of a sitting monarch or no, Harry willingly left the protection of the Royal machine. He’s now a private citizen living overseas and thick necked gentlemen named Sergei or similar are wanting to collect on those debts. This could be bad for H. His usefulness is about nil because he’s not supported by the Royal teat any more. And he has almost no ability to earn his own money. His life might be in danger all right but not from overzealous fans.

One wonders how much free product Harold has been taking advantage of all telling his backers that he still a big fat payday in six weeks and he sure daddy will come through with that IPP status anytime.

I wouldn’t want to be in Ginger Nutz’ shoes. Apart from the family friction, this must be the true reason why Harry and the baggage can never again be excepted in the bosom of the family. The taint everyone by association.
@ Fifi has raised some terrible spectres but they don't seem to be beyond the realm of probability.

Being in the debt of undesirables is surely a very uncomfortable place to be - but horribly predictable. Neither ever learnt that one doesn't get `owt for nowt. H presumably believes he's entitled to largesse as the son of a king and a mother who `deserted' him when he was a boy and * had a father who unconditionally showered her with whatever she wanted, because of her prodigious wonderfulness.

Both wilfully closed their eyes as to the obligations that their parents' lives entailed.

How can they ever get themselves out of the hole they alone have dug? If H gambled on the King rescuing him with royal favour - and cash, it's a bet he has lost spectacularly.
Humor Me said…
@WBBM - you have stated exactly what * may believe is involved in a divorce settlement: the bank of Pa will pay her off. The problem with that theory is * married JCMH, not the Crown, or the Firm. I am saddened when I read items on social media that KCIII has bailed out his son financially (at least once) since the death of HLMTQ. Bad precedent. I have no idea if this was tied to any of his three breakdowns post Megxit.
With the final influx of monies from Great Grandmother Queen Mother, the die is cast.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2024/07/blind-items-revealed-4_02050212144.html#disqus_thread

There's a comment on this thread that says that * wasn't lunching with Kimberley Paisley last week, she came out of the restaurant at the same time and got snapped touching her shoulder.
@Humor Me

I suppose His Maj. `helped out' Haz in the first instance as any loving father might but refused when it started to look like blackmail. Wasn't it reported that when ERII suggested he give H further support that he replied that he wasn't a bank?

Had he continued to subsidise the wastrel he'd have lost all respect from his future subjects. Kings and Queens sometimes have to but their foot (feet?) down and be immovable.

Sandie said…
@GWAH
Kimberley has confirmed that she has been in talks with the wife, so, yes, they were having lunch. The wife is bandwaggoning again. She is using Kimberley for good publicity.

@Humor Me
There is no inheritance from his great grandmother, the Queen Mother.

He has all the inheritance from Diana, except the portion she put in a Trust to support her favourite charities. That was invested and has grown. Diana also instructed that the money should also be used to support the wives and children of her two sons. That is the more interesting story ... how much has the wife been dipping into this fund?
Fifi LaRue said…
The blog has changed overnight; previously I could press "newest" and be taken to the latest comment. Now I have to scroll through 600+ comments to get to this place.
SwampWoman said…
Girl with a Hat said...
@Hikari,

I'm sure that Hairy was favoured over William in some ways by his parents.

William had to behave more properly whereas Hairy could run amok.

It is only in because of his chosen life story of victimhood that he is always overlooked.


I somehow overlooked this comment earlier. While I don't know that Harry is/was a 'special needs' child, it is pretty common for parents to attempt to 'make up' for the deficits the child has by not having any expectations for him. This does the child no favors. Often they do not expect good behavior for him/her, excusing the child by saying things like the child does not know any better. They do not know any better because they were never taught. They never achieved at their maximum potential because, well, it is hard for parents to engage and encourage the children to do things that they do not want to do. It is easy to put a television (or now, computer games) in their room and let them alone. The children that do go on to achieve were influenced by their mothers. Temple Grandin's father and doctors wanted to put her in a mental institution. It is because of her mother that she became the woman she is. I think the same is true of Albert Einstein.

Harry had Diana, who told him don't get caught, giving tacit approval of bad behavior. Diana, as we now know, had lots of behavioral problems of her own, and a less than stellar school record.

I can only imagine how intimidating it must have been to even attempt to compete with Charles, who pushed himself so hard.
Maneki Neko said…
Yes, that's right. I saw that this morning, I'd say it'll take a bit of getting used to.
Maneki Neko said…
And now I've sent my comment, I'm back at the start of the blog and I've got to scroll down 😕
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1efzosr/another_2ndto3rd_degree_connection/

Some more interesting tea about the birth of Lilli, from someone from the area who has a connection at Cottage Hospital.

Lilli was born at Cottage Hospital. Twit and Twat were both present at the hospital. They tried to force all hospital staff to sign NDAs, without success, and to force the birth team to exclusively only tend to the birth of Lilli, without success.

So much weirdness around the birth, but no verification that twat was the one who actually gave birth to Lilli.
SwampWoman said…
I was having that problem yesterday; this afternoon the problem is gone. I expect it is some updates being done with blogger.
Sandie said…
Meghan Markle Wishes Prince Harry Could 'Let Go' of Lawsuits: 'She Wants Him to Be Free' (Exclusive)
The Duchess of Sussex "supports Harry 100 percent," says a source, but she "wants him to live in a world where he is not burdened by this."

https://people.com/meghan-markle-wishes-prince-harry-could-let-go-of-lawsuits-exclusive-8686191

The article goes on to say that the King is no longer taking or responding to phone calls from hapless.

I have no doubt that the wife could persuade him to drop the lawsuits and take the children to the UK. He is losing money and getting himself into trouble (destroying evidence), so these lawsuits are negative for her, so she wants to distance herself, but portray herself as a supportive wife. I think the narrative and the reality are very different.
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1egofwc/wow_this_is_just_beyond_crazy_private_security/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1egsn2q/since_were_talking_about_security_anyone_want_to/

The security firm they use whining about the British government not giving them access to top secret information. Idiot. The British government actually does provide security for hapless when he is in the UK, according to his assessed risk.
Girl with a Hat said…
I hope that problem with the displaying of the comments has been fixed.

Too bad that Google outsources all their development.
Girl with a Hat said…
The Daily Express says that the * have announced "another royal tour", this time to Colombia!
Sandie said…
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxTtf4DOcNODBbbkhZs4Bwz-ah-yTQO8gs?si=axqQX4Xgtysoel4O

They have done another interview ... airing this Sunday. It is about online bullying.

Word salad, victimhood, control ... the usual to make themselves relevant.

Bullies have always existed, and I was still prey for bullies well into adulthood. Online platforms allow bullies to form lethal mobs. We should perhaps teach our children to switch off, and encourage them to put down their devices and play outdoors with friends. Instead, society rewards victimhood and embraces fascism, all of which is exploited to protect people like the duo from scrutiny and criticism.

I just do not like how they respond to the age-old scourge of bullying by using the tools of fascism
Sandie said…
@GWAH
I had a wobble with the display of comments for a couple of days, but it seems to be fixed for now. The hackers have threatened more attacks.
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They are doing another tour ... of Colombia. This is what they are reduced to ... being used by countries for publicity. And they are so desperate for attention and relevance that they seem to be accepting invitations from everyone.

Isn't Colombia a Mecca for the drug trade? Just asking! But perhaps I am guilty of typecasting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13698271/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-visit-Colombia.html
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Speaking to FEMAIL, celebrity stylist Rochelle White claimed Meghan's trousers were potentially a sample pair from St Agni and therefore not possible to alter to her 5ft 6in frame - either because they have to be returned or because they've been given to the stylist rather than directly to Meghan herself to keep.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13692941/meghan-markle-long-trousers-controversial-fashion-brands.html

Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Another 'quasi royal tour'! Are they invited or do they invite themselves? 'Both the UK and US governments issuing travel alerts for the crime-ridden country' so why are they going there? Either H wants to show he needs security - paid for either by daddy or the host country - or else they need to stock up on 'local produce'.

I did read the article about *'s overlong trousersearlier. It also said that 'Rochelle [White] argued that the Duchess frequently wears floor-length garments to give her the illusion of height.' She doesn't fool us. I'd love to give the illusion of height but I 'm not prepared to look like a clown and sweep the floor with similar oversize trousers - too long, too wide.
Maneki Neko said…
'Harry and Meghan release new CBS interview about cyber abuse as the Duke says parents have to be 'first responders' and warns many, 'can't spot the first signs of suicide'
...
Throughout the interview clip with host Jane Pauley the Royal couple speak about how parents need to protect children from online harm - reflecting on their own experiences with Prince Archie, five, and Princess Lilibet, three.'

They're such experts! The way they bring up those children might well affect their future lives but they know best. How does H propose that parents become 'first responders'? And in any case, once you have responders it's in reaction to a situation. Better to keep a watchful eye and preempt any problems. By the time parents are responders, it might well be too late.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13698499/Harry-Meghan-CBS-interview-cyber-abuse.html


Meanwhile. Catherine's biography is out today. This, note, is somebody who knows how to look after her children and generally takes an interest in children.

https://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/books/kate-middleton-book-catherine-princess-wales-b2589455.html
Sandie said…
Richard Eden's latest newsletter:

One of the most unedifying aspects of Prince Harry’s feud with his brother, Prince William, has been his apparent desire to claim ownership of his mother’s legacy.

Scarcely a speech or interview can pass without a reference to the late Princess Diana and his claims about her wishes.

Harry’s latest television interview suggests that he is now trying to invoke the memory of his late grandmother, too. Courtiers I’ve spoken to in the last few days are distinctly unimpressed.

In last Thursday’s interview with simpering ITV News correspondent Rebecca Barry, Harry claimed that Queen Elizabeth had fully supported his legal battle against the popular Press and had personally urged him on.

Sadly, the Queen is no longer available to support Harry’s claim or deny it. So, perhaps it would be instructive to look at her actions.

In his best-selling memoir, Spare, the prince portrayed the Queen as a frail, elderly woman manipulated by officials. In fact, she was as sharp as a tack until the end. And, even as her physical strength deteriorated, she was prepared to speak her mind – whether it suited Harry and Meghan or not.

For example, instead of backing their plans for a ‘half-in, half-out’ role with the Royal Family, she made it clear that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would not be allowed to combine a life of public duty with money-grubbing in Hollywood.

One courtier I spoke to this week was far from happy with Harry’s ‘tasteless’ attempt to claim his grandmother’s support in his continuing ‘crusade'.

As he told me: ‘There is something distinctly ‘off’ about it. ‘We’ll never know what was said between grandson and grandmother.

What we do know is that we will only ever know one side of the story.’

Shame on Harry for now trying to use the memory of a grandmother he did so much to hurt in her final years.
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/w75AUOI4N54?si=qxBGFUkOk1G3cUFk

The latest Palace Confidential ...
Sandie said…
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxV-rt8fvWGLNpbQKUqPxz0BF4bbTD8Tci?si=9EYXk_iRz2_iw1jB

A short teaser from their upcoming interview. Her body language is rather interesting.
Fifi LaRue said…
It seems that Dook Dog Biscuit is desperate and grasping at straws to stay relevant, what with the QEII reference and continuing Diana reference. He's desperate, and pathetic. And so is Dookess Dog Biscuit because she's the one running the puppet show.
Hikari said…
Observation: The Dookess of Delusion’s height has been universally misrepresented by Herself as 5’6”. Which would, if true, make her at least 5’9” in the stilettos she favors that she can barely walk in.

Despite the Dookess’s self-proclamation asan international supermodel “with legs that go on for days”, Harry’s wife is 5’6” at the most with heels on…Doria is a small-boned petite woman and * takes after her. He limbs are disproportionately long for her frame but that’s a genetic anomaly…doesn’t mean she’s tall. Note to Dookess Dum-Dum: wearing pants that make a puddle of material that obscure your feet do NOT give the illusion of height. It only serves to remind everyone that you are short and blocky, and can’t be arsed to get your clothes altered.

On the notorious “olive drab bivouac tent day at the polo” July 2019, there is that shot of H&M leaving the match. H, who’d had a physical altercation with his brother on the field is red-faced and grim, obviously having words with * who is staring ahead in her designer shades, clutching an inert plastic baby in a blanket on a day it was 85 degrees. H is 6’1”, wearing boots. She was wearing flats, and she barely comes up to his armpit. 5’6” my eye, unless she was standing in a ditch.

If only fudging her height was the worst she is guilty of.
Hikari said…
Observation: The Dookess of Delusion’s height has been universally misrepresented by Herself as 5’6”. Which would, if true, make her at least 5’9” in the stilettos she favors that she can barely walk in.

Despite the Dookess’s self-proclamation asan international supermodel “with legs that go on for days”, Harry’s wife is 5’6” at the most with heels on…Doria is a small-boned petite woman and * takes after her. He limbs are disproportionately long for her frame but that’s a genetic anomaly…doesn’t mean she’s tall. Note to Dookess Dum-Dum: wearing pants that make a puddle of material that obscure your feet do NOT give the illusion of height. It only serves to remind everyone that you are short and blocky, and can’t be arsed to get your clothes altered.

On the notorious “olive drab bivouac tent day at the polo” July 2019, there is that shot of H&M leaving the match. H, who’d had a physical altercation with his brother on the field is red-faced and grim, obviously having words with * who is staring ahead in her designer shades, clutching an inert plastic baby in a blanket on a day it was 85 degrees. H is 6’1”, wearing boots. She was wearing flats, and she barely comes up to his armpit. 5’6” my eye, unless she was standing in a ditch.

If only fudging her height was the worst she is guilty of.
SwampWoman said…
Sandie said: One of the most unedifying aspects of Prince Harry’s feud with his brother, Prince William, has been his apparent desire to claim ownership of his mother’s legacy.

Scarcely a speech or interview can pass without a reference to the late Princess Diana and his claims about her wishes.

Harry’s latest television interview suggests that he is now trying to invoke the memory of his late grandmother, too. Courtiers I’ve spoken to in the last few days are distinctly unimpressed.


Heh. He doesn't have anything else except an ancillary role to historic figures.
Maneki Neko said…
Re the duo's forthcoming trip to Colombia, I wonder if * will suddenly find she's got some Colombian heritage, say 10 or 20%. After all, she could pass for Latina. Cue a bit more bronzer.
Magatha Mistie said…

Diablo Megxitar

Snow White and Sneezy
taking the highs with the B-lows
Not to be sniffed at
following their nose
Burro and Mula
colombianing clevr blends
Roasted, toasted
ground to dreg ends…


Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1ehwkhn/new_enquirer_appears_to_have_an_a_fullon_accurate/

It is The Enquirer ... friends supposedly worried that the wine idea, which she is very excited about, is going to be another failure. A sample:

“Imagine going from having one of the largest most influential platforms handed to you, where YOU could do an incredible amount of good, to selling cheap wine as a cash grab.”
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https://x.com/BarkJack_/status/1819165225582506439

Everyone is talking about her look of annoyance and contempt when her husband was talking in the interview.

She looks like she is wearing a wig. Do you think she is wearing a wig?

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar
Toilet humour
still the best!!

@GWAH
Always 😘

@Neutral
Frost is a bit different
enjoyable

@Maneki
Re: long trousers
DM article
“and whilst Meghan wasn’t a
well known actress before
meeting Prince Harry
she would still have been given
freebies, albeit from smaller brands”

The Likelihood of the trailing pants…








Sandie said…
Meghan Markle lied on her The Tig blog about a 2014 trip to Croatia. In actuality, she documented the vacation two years earlier on Instagram in 2012. She was then married to Trevor Engelson and this sojourn overlapped with three things—a filming hiatus from Suits (tagged in one photo), her birthday (on August 4), and her legal wedding anniversary (According to Tom Bower’s Revenge and copies of her divorce petition, they were married civilly on August 16, 2011 in Los Angeles and she served Trevor with a request to divorce on August 7, 2013. The Jamaican religious ceremony took place on September 10, 2011). The 2012 trip to Croatia would have been her first wedding anniversary and the itinerary mentioned in the 2014 blog lines up with the Instagram screenshots I tracked down.

....

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1ei61dx/meghan_markle_caught_lying_on_her_old_blog/

The above post has all the photos she posted.

The woman has no idea of what is appropriate. She takes photos taken on a wedding anniversary trip her husband paid for, and puts them on social media after their divorce, without mentioning him at all.

Trevor and Cory did not feature in her social media posts. She never mentioned them. But as soon as she had hapless in her sights, she was posting coy photos about flowers he sent her (presumably, although I suspect that she sent them to herself), a bracelet he gave her, a cushion with a Union Jack, and other cutesy 'love posts'.
Fifi LaRue said…
Dookess didn't snag any brain dead multi-millionaires in her trip to Nigeria, so now she's off to Colombia to continue her hunt. We need a bingo card for how many inappropriate outfits she will be wearing as she advertises her used, frumpy wares. BTW she got botox in her face to counteract the Ozempic face thinning.
Maneki Neko said…
'Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have not been invited to the Royal Family's summer gathering at Balmoral Castle this year, sources claimed today.' (DM)

'Souces' could be * to make sure they're in the news. Every year it's the same will they/won't they. We're bored with it and not interested. * has never set foot in Balmoral and is not going to any time soon. It's a shame because I believe H genuinely likes Balmoral, fishing etc and would be happy there (he was in the past). Anyway, it won't be on the cards with Charles and Catherine recovering from cancer. The last thing they need is the Harkles' shenanigans and the ensuing stress. Luckily, * hates the UK and us Brits so will keep away.
From SMM:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13702393/police-officer-sacked-punching-women-Meghan-Markle-race.html

Original BBC version here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldy0n67y97o (later version omits mention of *)

Senior police officer and former Black policing body chair is sacked after dragged a woman to the ground before punching her in the face and then hitting a second female, during a discussion about Meghan Markle and race

A senior police officer, who had a distinguished career tackling violence against women, has been sacked for 'punching two women'.

While off-duty, south Bristol Insp Tola Munro dragged a woman to the ground before punching her in the face and hitting another female, a tribunal was told.

He left one of the women with a bruise to her cheek after the incident on 6 May 2023, which began with a discussion about Meghan Markle and race.

The panel heard Munro “completely lost control of himself”. He was found guilty of gross misconduct on Wednesday.

Munro, former president of the National Black Police Association, had denied the allegations and said he was acting in self-defence.


The two women have not been named, presumably for their own safety but I don't know the reason for the BBC's later obfuscation - was the report that it was over * unreliable? Was the Beeb afraid of retaliation? Were they concealing the unpleasantness of * and her supporters?
Sandie said…
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1eiu5m6/the_contrived_bollocks_that_is_their_new_people/

The whining about security is relentless.

Hapless does get security when he visits the UK, as would his family. Security threats to him are assessed on an ongoing basis and the security he is provided is according to the risk. This is partly, probably mostly, why he has been asked to inform British authorities he will be visiting at least a month beforehand. The royal family does not decide what kind of security they get, where and when ... none of them do.

This story is getting out of hand. Please, if you are on any other media platforms, keep telling the truth.

The dumbing down of the human population is huge. People speak faster, and use impressive word salad, but the more modern a society, the more dumb they are becoming. It is dangerous,and AI is just going to encourage this trend ... why develop complex thinking skills when AI can give you instant answers for everything? I am not against AI, and see enormous benefits, but I am afraid that the real danger is being ignored. Musk is afraid that AI will take over and destroy humans. No, humans will use AI to control and destroy other humans. My off topic rant for the day!
Sandie said…
Countries that participate in the Invictus Games (where they may do the next faux royal tour):

Afghanistan
Australia
Belgium
Canada
Colombia
Denmark
Estonia
France
Georgia
Germany
Iraq
Israel
Italy
Jordan
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nigeria
Poland
Republic of Korea
Romania
Ukraine
*Unconquered
United Kingdom
United States

* Team Unconquered was created to allow nations of all sizes the chance to compete in teams sports at the Invictus Games. The first Unconquered team was created at Toronto 2017 from Romanian, Ukrainian, Danish and American competitors and the concept has remained a staple of the Invictus Games ever since.
Sandie said…
https://www.tumblr.com/brf-rumortrackinganon/757711997383114752/what-do-they-really-want-tho-at-the-grand-scheme?source=share

A very interesting and long post about what they really wanted from the monarchy. Snippets:

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They want the deal Harry was promised in 2012, the deal that he bragged to Meghan about when they were dating, the deal she married him for, ...

They want the global prestige Harry was promised all the way back in 2012 and that Meghan was promised in 2018: equal status to William and Kate, permanently #3 on the call sheet, and the Commonwealth of Nations to rule over.
Sandie said…
An interesting response to the analysis by brfrumortrackinganon ... I do think the duo are like children throwing a tantrum ... completely fixated on what they want, even when it is unreasonable and no matter what inconvenience fir and harm to others.

the-empress-7
An excellent post by RTA.

Yes, this was her endgame and she was as subtle as a sledgehammer about it. However it’s important to remember that the half in/half out was the other side of the coin in this grand scheme of hers. She had every intention of being both the Queen of the Commonwealth and Queen of Hollywood. For obvious reasons she had to be more secretive of the latter plan, but she hid so many of the signs in plain sight. The sucking up Oprah, Serena, the Clooneys. The NYC baby shower. The hiring of Sara Latham, the retention of Sunshine Sachs. The secret British Vogue issue and the secret deals with CBS, Quibi, and Netflix while being a working royal.

From day one, she worked on her plan from both ends of the spectrum. All this to say, she still very much wants it both ways and truly believes that she deserves to have it both ways.
Sandie said…
@WBBM
That story is very disturbing.
Sandie said…
https://x.com/UKRoyalGossip/status/1819482349807321382

Another snippet from the teaser for their interview. She is talking about the children. Her body language is interesting. His is even more so. As she talks about the children, he has a fixed blank stare on his face, and his mouth is down turned. I find it odd.
Sandie said…
Scobie went online to say that he has never received a death threat from anyone in Columbia. The threats come exclusively from the UK. Best reply: "But does anyone in Columbia know you exist?"
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The Harkles are not the only people working for online safety. Here some posts about the work done by Theresa Longo, and highlights the difference:

My fav Miss Italy contest already did a successful ‘online safety’ campaign, collab’d w/ OPP digital forensics consultant. They published free, the advice gold standard. None of which included censorship. ‘Stop, Block & Talk’ was Theresa’s motto.

They toured schools. A practical piece of advice is careful consideration & total supervision of kids online. They suggest not allow unsupervised internet use until child is old enough to stay home alone & be able to navigate a convo w/ stranger.

And take note of what Theresa Longo wears when she goes to speak at schools. Suits! She wears suits. Nothing off the shoulder! Invited to speak and teach! Here she is standing with the program’s anti-trafficking, digital expert and co collaborator.

Eat your heart out Harkles

https://x.com/BarkJack_/status/1819351687846359330
Fifi LaRue said…
IMO the only thing Dook was promised was a kick in the pants and forced rehab. When Dookess showed up proclaiming their "love," the RF knew that what they hoped against hope had showed up in the form of a monster.
O/T
@ Magatha, re humour.

There's a beaut at the very end of this week's New Scientist. A correspondent reported that when he lived in the wilds of Cumbria, few people were on mains drainage and had septic tanks instead. These needed professional emptying every so often and one contractor emblazoned
its tankers with the legend `Yesterday's Meals on Wheels.'
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

I don't recall a deal that H was promised in 2012 - obviously this doesn't mean there is no deal - but who made the deal? The Queen? That was years before he met the claw and the Queen, if she organised the deal, couldn't anticipate what would happen. I don't believe he would have been given equal billing to William and Catherine. The Queen was in charge of the Commonwealth, now it's Charles although this is not hereditary: 'The King is Sovereign of 14 Commonwealth realms in addition to the UK. His Majesty is also Head of the Commonwealth itself, a voluntary association of 56 independent countries.' (www.royal.uk).

I tried to find this so-called deal but couldn't find anything. Possibly I didn't look properly/didn't know where to look but whatever happened I have no doubt that * was 'working' on him right from the start and manipulated him. She believed they would have equal billing. I could be wrong but I call BS.
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko
I think what the poster was trying to say is that this was the deal that the duo thought they were getting. This is a fantasy they concocted for themselves and tried to manifest.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1ej9m3f/cdan_weve_seen_how_angry_and_unhinged_she_looks/

Enty claims she was yelling at a producer after the interview.
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Dan Wootton, I think, listened into a SussexSquad chat and posted it. Very unpleasant. Nasty.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1ej9rej/it_would_be_a_shame_if_this_went_viral_before/
Sandie said…
Sorry ... someone, not Dan Wootton.
Ian's Girl said…
Drug fueled Delusions of Grandeur. No such deal was ever made, merely dreamed up in Nutmeg's cannabis and coke addled brain. Possibly Hazmat's brain, but I doubt it. Reeks of Rachel.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

‘On the Run’

Fifi LaRue said…
@Ian's Girl: Those two were smoking some powerful and delusional sh*t if they believe they would have equal status to the POW. Not to blame drugs exclusively, but Megsy was used to ordering dear old dad around to do her bidding. She was never use to being told No, ever. Therefore, the monster. At age 45 or whatever.
Hikari said…
“Equal billing to William & Catherine” is an utterly fantastical notion which the late Queen would have never ever entertained, nor would his current Majesty. The concept of an hereditary monarchy is predicated on primogeniture and therefore, inequality is inevitably part of the system. Those not born first in this order have two options in life: Accept one’s still incredibly privileged lot and dedicate oneself to being a stalwart support of the Crown, finding one’s purpose in that. Exhibit A: the Princess Royal. Or one can become a Margaret or a Harry—entitled, embittered and vengeful that there was always one who came before, who won the birth order lottery and will always get more sausages. With great power comes crushing responsibility and life in a gilded cage. Who among us doesn’t think that William might have preferred a career as an air rescue pilot in a cottage in Wales with his college sweetheart and life as a “normal” guy at least once in a while? Without his input or consent, he was tapped to wear the Crown at his birth and there’s nothing he can do about it. He got no say in his own destiny but is compelled to a lifetime of a life not his own.

This sounds just like the earlier suggestion that the Duchy of Cornwall should be equally split between Diana’s sons because they are “equal brothers”. This theme replays over and over again from the tiresome toddlers, and they are never going to quit trying to manipulate the RF via press reports of the “unfairness” shown to Harry. Sorry, cupcake—that’s the way it goes.
IIRC, it would be up to the Commonwealth counties themselves to decide who they wanted as Head after Charles. Wouldn't be a kick in the teeth for the Harkles if they opted for William?
Maneki Neko said…
@Sandie

Thanks for saying the 'deal' ’is a fantasy they concocted for themselves and tried to manifest'.

@Ian's Girl

'Reeks of Rachel' - exactly. She vastly underestimated the Queen, thinking she was just a little old lady and a figurehead. She leant to her cost that the Queen was anything but.

SwampWoman said…
Rachel equated/conflated politeness with weakness. It is not the same thing. I am extremely polite and pleasant in person. I conceal carry because there are times when politeness needs to be enforced. It is not polite to break into somebody's house. It is not polite to carjack somebody's car. It is not polite to randomly attack people on the street. Sometimes not being polite carries the death penalty.

Queen Elizabeth came from a long line of people that were very powerful and very ruthless. She preferred politeness. When politeness didn't work, she showed the ruthless side. It must have come as quite the surprise to her dim family member and his floozy.
Ian's Girl said…
You know, I did not perfectly understand the inderpinnings of The Commonwealth. I didn't realize that they could "opt out" of King Charles, so to speak.

I know that a country can leave The Commonwealth altogether; is it safe to assume that the entire Commonwealth would have to agree to swapping out the Head? In other words,one country can't decide to stick with Charles, while others choose Anne, and still others, William or Edward?

Here's what I think was probably floated, or more likely just mentioned 'round the table after several rounds of drinks: Hazmat and Nutmeg go and permanently LIVE in one of the Commonwealth countries, preferably an African one, since he professes such love for the continent and has a wife who claims African ancestry when it is beneficial for her to do so, and focus the majority of their appearances/patronage/charity work within the Commonwealth, which would free up time for their Majesties and the Wales.

From this, Nutmeg drew the conclusion that they would be on equal footing with, not only William and Catherine, but also Her Majesty, as de facto King and Queen of the Commonwealth.

I can actually see Hazmat telling her this, to be honest. Maybe not exactly, but I can see him saying something like "It's like we'll be King and Queen of the Commonwealth " but her narc brain just heard King and Queen, and ran with it.

I can see this being looked at as an option long ago, before William and Harry were even grown. And maybe not even deeply thought about, just one of many, many ideas being considered as whoever it is that handles this sort of thing is looking towards what the future of the Monarchy might look like, as the older Royals pass on, and there are fewer to replace them. Harry might have overheard something over the years.

But I do remember some talk of him going ( being sent, ha!) to live in Africa, at some point, and maybe there was some conciliatory language about representing the Monarchy in the Commonwealth from there... which he then sold to Nutmeg as being just like King and Queen, or, again, her narc brain engaged and she took it as literally being King and Queen of the Commonwealth.
This latest "endeavour" of This and That.

It was shocking to see the pain of the parents who had lost their children.

It was shocking to watch Harry's and her faces and reactions in the show (?). They are once more making money out of other people's pain and loss, that is very calculating and disgusting behaviour.

"M herself knows a thing or two about online bullying" No truer words have ever been spoken! Her Sussex Squad are the destructive ninjas of Internet world with her full acceptance.
Fifi LaRue said…
Oh Megsy still thinks she can hustle and demand her way into being KWEEN. That would be the ultimate in bossing people around, and making demands of others. How she wishes for that, and whines aloud, "I should be Kween!"

QEII had MI5 shove Megsy onto a plane without warning, and told to get out, and stay out. Delicious!
abbyh said…

Ian's Girl

Interesting. I could see how they might get swept up with the idea. When I watched a two part show about how the Royal Family travels, it included some shots of her accompanying TQ. What was made clear in the show was that the pomp, the lavish interiors and show/theaterness of what was about to happen - when they open the doors to allow exit.

Even though she trailed behind TQ, if she was thinking along the lines of as you mentioned even later, seeing how HM was treated, would be enticing.
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