According to a settlement with the British Royal Family, Harry and Meghan will no longer use their HRH titles and will repay 2.4 million pounds of public cash spent on Frogmore Cottage. They will no longer formally represent the Queen, and receive no more public money in return for Royal duties.
The Queen's Statement was as follows:
Statement from HM The Queen
Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family.
Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family.
I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life.
I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.
It is my whole family’s hope that today’s agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life.
What do you think of the statement, and of the settlement?
The Queen's Statement was as follows:
Statement from HM The Queen
Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family.
Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family.
I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life.
I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.
It is my whole family’s hope that today’s agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life.
What do you think of the statement, and of the settlement?
Comments
@PortCitygirl you go, girl! It's way too early here, so pls have one for me. I'm not thru all of the articles yet, but may need a plain hot chocolate to get thru it all.
As for Serena, can you imagine being her, having fought her way to the top with talent and effort, and then her press conference turns to a faux friend who had no talent and got to "the top" thru a variety of jobs, none of which were terribly impressive except to a limited few?
“Yeah, I have absolutely no comments on anything to do with that,” Serena Williams said. “Good try. You tried! You did good,” she said in a condescending tone.
IMO: those tweets were def re the charlatan.
Meg's attendance at the New York Open didn't appear to go down too well with Serena at all, so here's hoping the tweets were aimed at her. I think in the next few weeks we'll start to see who is and who isn't supporting the dastardly duo!
Mulroney doesn't strike me as someone who would shy away from criticism but hell,what do I know? lol
Ava C said...
@HappyDays on narcissistic stare - yes it is downright scary. On seeing that clip of Meghan looking at Kate I felt like a medieval peasant who accidentally met eyes with a witch and is now cursed. My cow is going to die and I'm going to starve to death. It came through the screen at me. Never seen anything like that, even though it's such a short clip and so blurry.
ROFL My cow is going to die and I'm going to starve to death. Perfect.
My cow is going to die and I'm going to starve to death.
Nobody outdid this and it remains the best quote about MM and her endeavors.
As for Serena, can you imagine being her, having fought her way to the top with talent and effort, and then her press conference turns to a faux friend who had no talent and got to "the top" thru a variety of jobs, none of which were terribly impressive except to a limited few?
That's a hell of her own making. She seemed so thirsty and crass during those first months of their 'friendship'. Hopefully, she saw the light. Her mum completely ignored Meghan at the US Open.
@Fairy Crocodile, I had forgotten that one, but thank you for the reminder! It gives me a warm, cozy feeling inside that some women see it and are willing to call it out.
@Poppycock, I mostly agree. But we all make some stupid choices, and I think Serena is now living with hers in a public way.
Short of painting the queen as a Nazi sympathizer, which has been done by another commentator here, it’s hard to imagine that suggesting that Harry is mentally compromised based on his very public and quizzical self-destructive behavior which has been escalating ever since he was a teen, brought to full ugly flower by his association with a partner who is enabling his deficiencies for her own ends Would be more offensive to the British public then what is currently happening. I am an educator with a great deal of compassion for differently abled children. Harry is making it increasingly difficult to find sympathetic explanations for his behavior, but given the soft soap excuses for his immature behavior up till now, we must at least entertain the possibility that his intellect is significantly below average. I did not say he was retarded; I suggested that if his intellectual capacity is below an average intelligence of 100 that he would be Significantly impaired in his independent decision making skills. Do you to his position as a high-ranking member of the royal family as Charles son, He has been allowed at mission to elite schools which she never would have earned a place at on his own merit. They’ve passed him along because he is the son and brother of future Kings, but that has only fed into his feelings of inferiority and rage which.made him so susceptible to Meghan. He alone of all his family seems blind to her true motives... I think there’s a good reason why he was the weakest link in the royal family, apart from his bachelor status which made him available. I think it’s his long-standing sense of inferiority That is making him double down so hard on his choice of her. He is desperate to vindicate himself. I would like to see Harry reinstated to his family, but the ultimate objective must be the survival of that family. I think it’s obvious to everyone that Harry can only function with in a support system, and he most certainly is not going to get that with his wife. I feel like it’s really too late to channel Harry’s real abilities Vs. His imagined abilities into any sort of productive role within the family. Megan is going to destroy him ...That process is already well underway. We see him diminishing by the day. Her version of their freedom from the royal family is going to eat him alive. He is currently acting like a real ass hat, but I also think he is an incredibly vulnerable person lacking normal mental acuity Denying that reality has not done him any favors so far, and he’s determined to pass out of his families ability to help him. That is the real tragedy here. So it might sound harsh to call out his mental deficiencies But should they be sugarcoated at the expense of the monarchy? The family is now paying a very high price for maintaining the fiction that there is nothing wrong with Harry other than willfulness. Expecting him to fully realize the ramifications of what he has done and repent and change now seems futile.
I think it’s his long-standing sense of inferiority That is making him double down so hard on his choice of her. He is desperate to vindicate himself...
I think it’s obvious to everyone that Harry can only function with in a support system, and he most certainly is not going to get that with his wife...
Yes, she will destroy him, and the slow, degrading process has already begun. What will end it, though? That's the question.
Navratilova said it out loud, but I'm sure many feel the same. Megsie is a gold digger and it's as simple that.
True about stupid choices, Elle. Meg's victims could start a football club or two probably, so she must be very good at charming them.
Fast forward: People are backing away very casually especially in Hollywood, but Disney is ABC and they broadcast the Academy Awards which has had a huge rating drop in the last decade. MM would be a ratings boost, so unless QEII forbids it Meghan is going to present at the Oscars which I hope for because it will ultimately be the last straw.
JMHO.
Well, huge ratings boost minus 1. Just disgusts me. Will Harry FKAP present with her? Or will she flounce up there solo? Or maybe present with George lolololhellno, please no.
And by 'last straw', do you mean with the BRF?
Personally I can't wait to see what hideous gown she will wear, she has the worst sense of style and I firmly believe that was part of her downfall with the public....too ticky tacky. Givenchy is rolling in his grave as is Christian Dior.
She is the Ultimate in Ticky-Tacky. That's her one best public trick. I hope for a sausage casing again. Those Lion King photos are just frightening, but also, one look and I step away from the brownie lol.
Meg's victims...she must be very good at charming them.
Narcissists / sociopaths are terribly charming, and that's why it's easy enough to fall prey at first. But there are certain patterns. The pity card is always a clue (poor baby - narcs love to seek out that public sympathy and recenter the spotlight). Also, when praised, even if the world is burning down, they perk up immediately and swan on over. The irrational anger at anyone who offends them, even if the "offense" is nonsensical (think of those Inskip wedding photos). And, the kicker, their public tales of amazing and daring high-wire feats and accomplishments (standing ovation anyone?), their exceptional beauty lauded by strangers (and the mile high legs that go with!), etc. I watch for those signs and back slowly towards the door at the first inkling, while a lot of the room is still mesmerized.
My question is can some kind person link me to Serena’s hubby’s tweet? I’ve searched for it to no avail.....
Until then, he has made an ass out of himself. But his mental maturity is that of a 12 year old when his mom died. Even with my level of education on the situation I still find myself hating what he has done and is doing to HM and his brother- and his father, who is immobile to help.
Oscars are not until February 9th. So there is some time for all kinds of things to shake out of the sky.
I can see her being asked to present but I think on some level, someone knows that having her walk the red carpet would be a bad visual caught live on camera and difficult to edit on the fly. Also that there are already enough people who need minders to keep from meeting certain others, having a couple more minders to keep her from pestering people for work would just be more headaches before, during and after the walk that can be avoided from the start.
I think the people who think the Queen was weak to only ask them to not use the HRH publically haven't thought of the fallout from Diana or that making the visual appearance of conseeding something which can later be rescinded if (and when) the rules are broken are playing checkers not chess. Another lovely example of See how We tried. Just more blatant.
There you go on an on about posters discussing religion and politics, even criticizing me saying I was part of it last night when when I WAS The One Who FIRST pointed out there should be no discussion of religion and politics.
I posted something on topic and you attacked me last night as you have done before when I posted something on topic (just because I use an 'Unknwn' screen name). You try to turn other Nutties against me when I post things on topic (I stay on topic while it is not uncommon you do not).
You are turning this blog into your own little clique and the other 'Unknown" was right in many things they said (although I disagreed with their use of a horrible swear word).
I am curious as to what Boris Johnson had to say to Harry. Possibly can that question also be tackled?
I agree in part, but if the family unable to deal with the most vulnerable of them in a dignified and honest way crumbles and loses its power - so be it. True modern monarchy should not be a greedy, dishonorable, sleazy institution.
I am the same age as Harry and watched him grow up. He has a quick sense of humour, which is not an attribute of those with severe mental deficiencies. I think Charles said it best when he referred to him as 'c**ntstruck'. Harry's learning problems and traumas have little to do with his intelligence which is average. His sense of inferiority is tragic and may lead him to ruin. I'd still be sorry to see his family throw him under the bus in such a humiliating manner just to preserve themselves. He's doing the whole throwing under the bus thing quite well on his own anyway.
Rebecca English - Daily Mail - 16 January 2020
"Harry has never been blessed with intellectual intelligence — and I mean that in the nicest possible way — but he has an emotional intelligence that few in the Royal Family can match."
I do think Rebecca chose her words carefully....
She is obviously wrong. However, I do admire her loyalty. Her subject will need it as he has been thrown to the wolves. His wife being the Shemale.
Hopefully, this will fizzle sooner than later for his sake and the Monarch's.
Agree. Harry is definitely on the spectrum and probably still using drugs. He needs professional help and support of his family, but that doesn't make him Forrest Gump.
Oscars are not until February 9th. So there is some time for all kinds of things to shake out of the sky.
I can see her being asked to present but I think on some level, someone knows that having her walk the red carpet would be a bad visual caught live on camera and difficult to edit on the fly....
I think the people who think the Queen was weak to only ask them to not use the HRH publically haven't thought of the fallout from Diana or that making the visual appearance of conseeding something which can later be rescinded if (and when) the rules are broken are playing checkers not chess. Another lovely example of See how We tried. Just more blatant.
This is a cheery perspective! Yay!
@Glowworm The Unknown Personally, I think that's a great name lol. Here you go:
https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/1216652538667094018
He does not ever deny that it's about Rach. He just says he can only speak to the tech industry, but that does not mean he can't look at the charlatan from the perspective of a tech genius.
Why was this catastrophe happen? I don't know maybe it's as simple as his family being just too tired of cleaning up his messes.
I've been wondering the same for months. Maybe if she weren't partially black - thus good for the image of the Firm - they would deal with her sooner and better. It's crazy they didn't recognise her histrionics and egotism as something that could be detrimental in the future.
@HIKARI!!!! Hurry, there are no comments yet! You can hit first :)
Elle, I try to be an optimist in life. Sometimes, it is hard to figure out where the positive might be sometimes.
They are now under more scrutiny than ever. They do not represent the Queen, and cannot use the HRH. They don't have to do official engagements, but I predict the unofficial engagement list will dry up as well. Why invite the not-royal-anymores when you can invite W&K?
Harry cutting his family ties and military ties is so sad. And not needed. It is as if all of this is just saying "We hate you" publicly to the Firm. And I think MM is going to be seething that she is now not just an actress has-been, but a royal has-been too. And all of her own doing!
Thank you, HRH Elle...very much. Now scurry over to the new post before @Hikari, that scallywag gets there first!
Everyone’s moving over to the new thread but I just wanted to make one last response to my earlier comments.
Harry’s IQ may fall within the normal range, and he may have a quick wit sometimes...His quip at Canada house, “my wife will now speak French” shows a glimmer of the old Harry, albeit passive aggressive. I think Harry has been rolling that way for a long time. He’s been a problem child for two decades, long before meeting Meg, And his family has been making excuses for him since before Diana died. His dysfunctional coping strategies are not all down to Megan’s influence and whatever body parts she’s striking him with; Nor can we attribute His struggles completely to Diana’s death or drug use. A variety of factors conspire to make his self management extremely immature. He’s functioning was never going to be tested in the cosseted environment of the royal family. It is now, and we see he’s not managing well at all. Rebecca English has basically said in print what few have done til now... if there is a “nice“ way to call someone stupid, she has just done it. And that’s coming from someone Who’s been on friendly terms with Harrysince he was 20. Imagine what non-friendlies will do to him out in the world.