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So, when does the dirt on Meghan come out?

"This is only hearsay, but in London a Brit socialite who knew her way around money, Europe, royalty told me - and my companion, so I wasn't alone in hearing this - that Meghan was known in the old days. 'She was around the famous playgrounds Europeans visit...and known to be shopping for a rich husband.'"

That's a quote from Cindy Adams in yesterday's New York Post. Cindy is old - so old that she interviewed the original Duchess of Windsor.

"Who was also American," writes Cindy. "She was not happy afterward. She was tough. I interviewed her. She was constantly looking to negotiate some sort of financial betterment."

So, when does the dirt start coming out? How about now.


Who will drop the information?

We've had more than 1200 comments since the Sussex summit on Monday, so please allow me to repeat part of my answer to a question hidden somewhere within that forest of text.

A regular commenter asked for my input on how and when some of the nasty info on Meg might come out.

 In addition to items on the popular blind gossip sites (CDAN, Blind Gossip), tweets from royal reporters and other British journalists, and insider postings on blogs like this one and LSA, the foreign press is one to watch.

 Yesterday I thought of the Germans (Bild?) and the French in particular, with the Australians as a long shot, but Cindy didn't occur to me. 

 She's a good choice because she's got an established reputation (as one should when one is 89 years old) and nothing to lose. She doesn't need or want access to Wills and Kate. 

And her employer, Rupert Murdoch, is currently being sued by Prince Harry for phone hacking. 


Don't make Meg the victim

Reporters, particularly UK reporters, know the dirt, probably much more than we know. But there's a delicate balance - nobody wants to make Meg look like the victim and create public sympathy for her. 


And the UK press still needs access to the Royals, so they won't be first on anything that might isn't secretly approved by the family or isn't be timed to serve the family interests.

Besides, unpublished stories can serve as a counterweight to whatever Meg might want to release on the BRF, and Meg may have been told so directly. 

"If we see anything in public about Royal Family Member X's eating disorder, then we'll release the story about you yachting. Release that piece about Royal Family Member Y's private dinner with Tommy Robinson, and we release the videotape of you shouting racial insults at Melissa Toubati."

We are shocked, shocked!

If stories about Meg do come out, the BRF will profess to be horrified by this awful invasion of privacy, even though the material may have been supplied by the BRF through an intermediary. 

The UK press will gleefully cover both the leak and the BRF's pretend shock, while generating as many clicks (and paper copies) as possible. They have financial targets to meet. 

A good example of how the BRF works with the British media is the story released to Richard Kay on Sunday January 12, when the world was focused on the Sussexes, about Princess Beatrice and her fiancé Edo.

"The new year hasn't brought a change of luck for Princess Beatrice and her wedding plans," Kay reported. "New woes are brewing for Bea, 31, and Edo Mapelli Mozzi - and this time it's all to do with the presence of his ex, Dara Huang."

Two days later, Enty ran a blind item: "This offspring of a royal pedophile continues to be cheated on by her soon to be husband. There is even buzz he got an ex pregnant during one of their many visits together".

The story behind the story

Looks like everyone in the British press has known for a long time that Edo and his ex were still knocking boots. The courtiers could see that a wedding date announcement was coming up sometime in January, so they gave Richard Kay at the DM the green light for a euphemistic story about how Dara was still "cutting his hair and buying his clothes" and that Bea had "returned from working in New York" and found they were "closer than she would like."

Richard Kay wasn't given the OK to write the pregnancy rumor, but he or someone else at the DM passed it on to Enty for a blind, knowing it would circulate among people like us. 

Anyway, looks like the wedding is off, and it was important for the RF to explain the real reason before the announcement of "different schedules" or some such nonsense. 

And Richard Kay has been given the kind of exclusive tidbit that rewards Royal reporters for holding back other, as-yet-unapproved information.

Let's see what's next. 

Comments

Wanda said…
@AntsyNancy:
Re her self esteem - yet she was quoted as saying she was too good for royal family events like hospital openings and ribbon cuttings!

I think one of the problems with this marriage is she is American. It certainly is not the worst of the problems but it is a significant one. Harry should have married a British woman who understands the monarchy and their place and history in the UK.
Wanda said…
Embarrassed Palace officials claim Prince Harry NO idea footage of his 'final' engagement as a senior royal would be accompanied by Stone Roses hit with the line 'I'd like to leave the country for month of Sundays'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7895447/Dropping-hint-Harry-Meghan-Markle-release-video-final-engagement-senior-royal.html

Huh?!
Camper said…
@Lt Uhuru

The one thing that upsets me is actually any child, if one exists. It took me to my mid to late 20’s to unburden myself of my mother (even though I moved to the other side of the country and got married), she wanted to control my life, in the shade of hers of course, I also took my sister to live with me when she was 16, to bring her out of that home. Two brothers emigrated to New Zealand and an older sister ‘divorced’ my mother. My dad is a Harry, totally under the thumb, but my sister and I have told him it’s his fault and to leave her loads of times. That’s what worries me about Harry, honestly it’s like being in a cult with a cult leader.
Pantsface said…
Ms Markle seems to have done more in one day in Canada than she did in 2 years in GB
Ozmanda said…
Now apparently Frogmore staff have all been let go
Sandie said…
According to the DM article, staff from Frogmore have been found places at BP and WC, so I think the BRF is doing a lot of work to clean up the mess Megsy and Harry are leaving behind them. Perhaps Harry is doing some of that work, but Megsy is not concerned at all with any of it.
Sandie said…
I reckon that when William got back to his family in London after the Royal Showdown at the Sandringham Corral, he looked at his wife and said 'I am SO grateful that YOU are my wife/I married YOU', hence the romantic gesture of the rose during their Bradford visit. It was probably pretty much the same for Charles when he got back to Camilla.

The positive outcomes of the toxic actions of the Sussexes!
@Sadie. I hope the RF expends more energy on finding alternative roles for the ex-Frogmore employees than the ex-Frogmore residents.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Camper -- You are very, very brave. I wish I had one tenth of your strength. Your sister that you took under your wing will grow to be a stronger and happier person because of you. Your brothers and sisters deserve all the credit for standing up for themselves.

As for your Dad, and Harry, being so weak-willed, I am thinking perhaps that is as hard to deal with.

I am full of admiration for you. I would love to know you in "real life" :)

As for the Harkles, I foresee bad things on the horizon. Exactly what, I don't know, I just have a bad feeling. Especially for poor little Archie, as you said, if indeed he exists.
Animal Lover said…
My opinion is by using that song M is say F--k you to the BRF. What do you want to bet they didn't get most of what they want?

This behavior is surprising . How do they think this will help their brand?

Is their target audience rebellious tweens and teens?

Rebelliousness can be appealing but not when it involves rubbing shit in the face of a 93 year old woman.
Ròn said…
@Camper - well she certainly is a bit of a cult........
Mimi said…
How can Hairy go to Canada except for a very short visit if he is not permitted to according to their rules?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Mimi said...
How can Hairy go to Canada except for a very short visit if he is not permitted to according to their rules?

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Apparently he's allowed to stay for 6 months (as is Markle) on a work visa … if I read it correctly. Of course, the "work visa" depends on the guarantee of actual income from their p I m p I n g of their Sussex name on coffee mugs and such, the particulars of which remain up in the air.
Glow W said…
Did they re do the video? I don’t hear any lyrics etc,
Mimi said…
She is an “ankle”! that’s lower than a “cult”.! (as told tome by a former convict!)
Glow W said…
Ok, so the song was much ado about nothing, just poor timing as it was chosen as an anthem by the rugby group?

“Palace sources have now said that the particular song had been the sole choice of the event organisers, however it is not yet clear whether or not the song will be the theme for the 2021 event.

Sources close to the Duke said that the royal team had no involvement in the choice of music, which had been suggested by the rugby league side of today’s event because it was ‘an anthem’ of the sport.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7895447/Dropping-hint-Harry-Meghan-Markle-release-video-final-engagement-senior-royal.html

So that was Daily Mail starting shit.
buckyballs said…
@Ozmanda @Sandie

That is confirmation that Frogmore is done, right?

So much for M&H keeping it as a "UK base".

Taken off the table. No deal.
Mimi said…
i should say.....as explained to me by an ex convict.
Mimi said…
Thank you Lt. Nyyota Uhura, six months is a long time.....
@bucky. Looks like it. Now let's hope they are divested of all the rest.
SwampWoman said…
buckyballs said: That is confirmation that Frogmore is done, right?

So much for M&H keeping it as a "UK base".

Taken off the table. No deal.
Yeah, definitely, for the staff members to be reassigned. Since it was only two full-time staff, seems to me that they didn't live there to begin with. A cleaner and a house manager, hunh? Probably kept it in readiness for if anybody should move in.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Mimi said...
Thank you Lt. Nyyota Uhura, six months is a long time.....

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@Mimi -- only going by what I read somewhere (real specific, I know, *sigh*), and I'm definitely not an authority on Canadian law.

But yeah, you are quite right. It just may be with the help of Justin Trudeau, they can game it somehow.
octobergirl said…
@tatty Apparently, that song is played at a lot of rugby games. Yes, they were just starting shit.
Animal Lover said…
@Tatty

What's your source for Harry and Meghan not choosing that music?

I just checked the headlines on the Mirror, which is a left leaning paper. They report Megxit is stalled over "a row" over corporate deals.

I started reading the Mirror after M charged the tabloids in particular the DM are racist.
The Mirror and Mail are similar in the stories the report, the Mail just writes more on M and the BRF.

@Tatty, ‘Palace sources have now said that the particular song had been the sole choice of the event organisers, however it is not yet clear whether or not the song will be the theme for the 2021 event.’

I think it might a cover story by the Palace to stop Harry looking completely obnoxious, incase he wants to come back into the royal fold at some point.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Being a Star Trek (the original) fan, and in communications (full disclosure -- I'm a journalist, but NOT a p I m p!!! LOL, I work for a veterans-only publication, being a veteran myself, and we have no time for "real" or "fake" news) --

I can't help but try and draw a connection to the episode where Spock falls under the spell of Jill Ireland (late spouse of Charles Bronson) via a hypnotic drug emitted by a flower's pollen.

Spock is all, "Whee! Free love, tip-toeing through the tulips!" until he finally comes to his senses. This is how I see the Harkles.
Wanda said…
I've just been looking at The Harkles new website. They were apparently very confident they would get everything they asked for as evident by their outlined plans for "global domination" presented to the world before the Queen had any say in the matter. The website is fairly extensive.

The sussexroyal name is already in use there, and they state they plan to continue their patronages. Harry has a list of about 20 and Meghan has the 4 she was given by the queen.

I don't understand this. What does stepping down actually mean, and how do you work with a patronage from another continent? Which is it - are they resigned or not? I thought Murky did not want to come back to the UK.

I didn't quite realize the extent of their desire for some "cake and to be able to eat it too".

In addition, the site contains Meghan's version of parts of their story including how they ended up at Frogmore Cottage. She claims that they were going to get the apartment in Kensington Palace and chose to take FrogCott instead due to the amount of time it would take to do renovations. (See her explanation I've pasted below.)

I don't believe this is true. The story that had been told was the Cambridges were going to get the second apartment to turn into working quarters. That apartment is right next door to Kate and William and has a shared door on one wall. I doubt William would want MM living so close to them.

From their website:

"Why did The Duke and Duchess move to Windsor as their Official Residence?
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex chose to move to Windsor for various reasons. Their previous residence of Nottingham Cottage on the grounds of Kensington Palace could not accommodate their growing family. The option of Apartment 1 in Kensington Palace was estimated to cost in excess of £4 million for mandated renovations including the removal of asbestos (see details above on the Monarchy’s responsibility for this upkeep). This residence would not have been available for them to occupy until the fourth quarter of 2020. As a result, Her Majesty The Queen offered The Duke and Duchess the use of Frogmore Cottage, which was already undergoing mandated renovations, and would be available to move in before the birth of their son. The refurbishment cost equated to 50 percent of the originally suggested property for their proposed official residence at Kensington Palace. It is for these reasons, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex chose Frogmore Cottage as their Official Residence."
Sandie said…
@Tatty, ‘Palace sources have now said that the particular song had been the sole choice of the event organisers, however it is not yet clear whether or not the song will be the theme for the 2021 event.’

Event organisers throwing shade at their patron?! Or cover up (cleaning up the mess) by courtiers for the real royal?!
Lady Luvgood said…
Jan Moir in the DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7896913/JAN-MOIR-Good-deeds-Meghan-Markle-yes-help-most.html
Glow W said…
@octobergirl, that is what it seems

@animal lover the source is daily mail

@raspberry I believe anything and everything at this point 😳🤔
punkinseed said…
I read an article a couple of days ago about estimates for their security outside of the royal family's. The guy who gave the information is a private security pro. and he said their costs will run upwards of $5 Million. Now today a DM article estimates it to run $10 Million. The reason for such high costs is because all 3 are high value targets and require all sorts of special coverage. Geez!
It doesn't look like they will be able to let Megs go charity site hopping very much. They are going to go broke if she thinks she can just flit about like a bee to every flower all the time.
erika said…
Typing on cellphone so apologies for any messiness. I just have to say congratulations and fantastic job on consistently (and fairly) reporting the truth! For doing extensive research. For doing what, apparently, no other mainstream media outlet can...report the truth! 98% of articles on H, and especially M, are lies or almost comical fluff pieces. Reporters have bowed down to MM and I hope that finally the gloves have come off! I've said and I'll say it again, yr blog (harrymarkle, a very royal narcissist, youtubers Celtic news, murky megs, taz) is therapy for me bc I too can see (saw from beginning) what a destructive, manipulative narcissist she is. She uses people n blazes a path of destruction behind her. Anyhoo...you blazed the path, let's hope the sun, DM, NY Times, London Times, etc. Can start doing some honest (fair) reporting. H&M? Go yr merry way, fine, I dont think the public should pay for yr "private" lives.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
BlueBell Woods said...
I've just been looking at The Harkles new website. They were apparently very confident they would get everything they asked for as evident by their outlined plans for "global domination" presented to the world before the Queen had any say in the matter. The website is fairly extensive.

The sussexroyal name is already in use there, and they state they plan to continue their patronages. Harry has a list of about 20 and Meghan has the 4 she was given by the queen.

I don't understand this. What does stepping down actually mean, and how do you work with a patronage from another continent? Which is it - are they resigned or not? I thought Murky did not want to come back to the UK.

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These are Royal, and eventually Parliamentary, issues. The Harkles think they can skirt them at will. I hope the Palace can squash their hopes into the mud.
Miggy said…
Harry's friends are turning now too:

Harry's friend's wife Rose Astor mocks Megxit with Instagram post about 'standing back from her tax return' because she would 'rather see her friends and do yoga'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7896651/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Oops-Wife-Prince-Harrys-pal-Hugh-van-Cutsem-pokes-fun-Megxit.html
Miggy said…
Rebecca English:

"Harry often told me he just wanted to walk away from it all: REBECCA ENGLISH has accompanied the Prince around the world for 15 years. Now she gives an insight into his generosity, warmth... and the day she saw his personality change."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7896645/REBECCA-ENGLISH-reveals-touching-insight-Prince-Harrys-personality.html
erika said…
Question, I dont have much criminal experience (read: none at all) but is MM essentially blackmailing the RF? "Give me my demands OR I release the dirt on you all". Maybe there is real dirt but is she crazy? Yr going up (blackmailing) the RF? N Harry, yr compliant on this too, yr too naive (simple minded, prey to MM's manipulation). Is this blackmail? Is she going to get away with it? Sometimes I do wonder if there was a Diana conspiracy...sorry, I do. Is she crazy? Does she realize the power of the RF? Speculation, but my sense has always been that she is so terribly, deeply insecure about her biraciality, her looks, socioeconomic background that she wants to seek revenge on anybody or anything that (she thinks) provokes that deep, DEEPLY, rooted insecurity. All narcissists wear a mask. Smoke n mirrors....
Wanda said…
@Lt. Nyota Uhura -
I am also a fan of the original Star Trek and remember that episode well!
It's funny but I have a Star Trek episode reference for the Harkles too - one that I've had since the first few months of their marriage!

IMO MM's appearance went down-hill after she got married. She apparently had a stylist on Suits, and cared more about the way she looked before she got the ring on her finger. After the wedding she began to look sloppy, her hair was/is awful, she exhibited poor grooming, and her facial features constantly morph and change (they still do).

So - I was reminded of the episode "Mudd's Women": A con-man is transporting three gorgeous woman to become the brides for men in a mining colony on a remote planet. Once they arrive the show portrays them losing their beauty as they rapidly age and become unattractive right before everyone's eyes. The con is discovered - the woman are only beautiful after taking a "Venus Drug".
IOW - MM's appearance was a manufactured construct.
octobergirl said…
@Animal Lover Yeah, the Daily Mail which started the rumor, lol.

But tonight sources close to the Duke said that the royal team had no involvement in the choice of music, which had been suggested by the rugby league side of today’s event because it was ‘an anthem’ of the sport. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7896347/Social-media-users-blast-Prince-Harrys-Stone-Roses-anthem.html


It's buried at the bottom of the article.
Animal Lover said…
Nutties

Russel Myers of the Mirror reports that is a problem with the Sussex getting corporate deals:

The Queen’s senior advisors have urged a “forensic examination” of any corporate deals for the Sussexes, which sources say will “be carefully considered on their merits and in an agreed framework”.

That framework, sources say, is the sticking point of the talks.

Myers goes on to say it will take at east six month to hammer out a deal and come up with a framework, He goes on to write this is a major blow for the Sussexes.
pi said…
"The Duchess of Sussex broke cover from her $14million palatial hideaway to visit a women's shelter in Canada's poorest neighborhood to 'boost the staff's spirits' in her first public appearance since leaving the UK."

Harry once said it's important to not appear too ordinary to keep the royal mystique intact. Said that one should be careful to not "dilute the magic", that "the British public and the whole world need institutions like it.” That's what royalty means to Harry and Megs, "magic", pixie dust, so Disney.

Meghan is now also living that dream, swanning in and spreading the 'magic'. The mere imprimatur of royalty, aka as 'the brand', is all either needs now and this is what Harry believes is necessary to cheer the peasants, the poor and downtrodden- magic. They grace us with their presence and it is enough, so uplifting. All they have to do is bestow their fragrant presence on us. Touch their hems and they may even heal us. This is the "modernised" monarchy in action, her version of boots on the ground (literally).

Venal, mendacious, lazy buggers. Remove their imprimatur, their magic and show them for what they really are, not only ordinary but common.
Glow W said…
My guess is Harry skies to Canada soon. They will sit there and wait this all out while making appearances they put on their IG
Hikari said…
@BlueBell,

>>>I'm familiar with red-haired Archie Andrews the UK ventriloquist dummy from my years of "vintage seeking and antiquing" - replicas of him were sold to the public in the 1950's and I came across one once.<<<

Thanks for explaining there were two red-haired dummies.

America no doubt copied both Howdy Doody and our cartoon Archie Andrews from the British version. We are good at 'borrowing' pop culture like that. Many of our popular shows were originally British ideas and modified for the American market.

All in the Family was, I believe, called 'Til Death Do Us Part?

Sanford and Son translates 'Steptoe and Son' into African-American comedy. Was Steptoe a white or black Briton?

The Meghan Show is sadly, a 100% American original.

I really would like all of our British friends here to know that American woman, apart from the rabid sugars, are deeply and profoundly disgusted at how MM has represented American women in the UK. The Royals were kind enough to welcome another American divorcee to their ranks despite profound misgivings, and this is how she repays them for her 45 million pound wedding (complete with the Queen Mary tiara) carriages, a million pounds for clothes, millions more for a nice house, and all the goodwill possible.

It's sickening.
Glow W said…
Actually, @Hikari I can’t make that same sweeping generalization you do about American women.

I read on a website for a personal and professional interest of mine and there is an off topic forum with a post about “megxit”. It’s women and men from around the world. I’ve been here so much that I haven’t participated on that thread and so hadn’t read it until the other day. It’s on page 5 and is 90% pro Meghan and poor her treated so poorly by the monarchy, etc. The posters are upper class and professional and I would say the age range is 35-65. I would not call them rabid sugars (or even sugars) either. I would call them people who have average knowledge of this topic, not obesessed.

I haven’t checked it in a few days, so I’ll go see what’s going on there.
Mimi said…
pi, I REALLY liked your take on the two loonies. That Is EXACTLY their mind set!!!!!!!!! You hit it right on the nose!
Glow W said…
The latest posts are Meghan is a victim of racist and classist abuse by the British media.
xxxxx said…
Deal maker Megs will not be hitting the ground running, so it seems....This will drive her up a wall. Maybe she will proceed rashly on her corporate deals without Royal Family permission or agreement.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-harrys-plans-quit-firm-21297167

“It requires a great deal of work on complex issues such as tax, copyright, intellectual property, not to mention a legal agreement with the royal institution over using the royal brand in the private sector.

“There are legal issues to contend with, how future deals will be presented and of course who will be working with them.”

Harry will meet advisors early next week to try to move the process on enough for him to join wife Meghan and eight-month-old son Archie in Canada.

The insider added: “So many questions need addressing, all of which will take up to six months to get over the line.

“The best there will be in the immediate future is a half-way house that will look like a deal is in place to placate all parties while everyone else puts their lives on hold until this is sorted.”

The delay will be a major blow to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who have been told they need to submit a series of detailed plans before they can take their new “Sussex Royal” brand into the private market. Harry, 35, appeared in public yesterday for the first time since the couple announced their decision to quit The Firm last week.

At first he seemed anxious, twisting his wedding ring and displaying cuticles that appeared bitten.
Miggy said…
Referring back to the article that I posted earlier about Rose Astor...

"Rose heads the membership committee of Soho Farmhouse, the exclusive Oxfordshire club, where Meghan held her hen party and where she and Harry periodically escaped during the early months of their marriage."

So Meghan DID have another hen party after all. Greedy cow!
Miggy said…
@Hikari,

Steptoe (from the British comedy Steptoe & Son) was an elderly white man.
ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Animal Lover
” Russel Myers of the Mirror reports that is a problem with the Sussex getting corporate deals:

The Queen’s senior advisors have urged a “forensic examination” of any corporate deals for the Sussexes, which sources say will “be carefully considered on their merits and in an agreed framework”.

That framework, sources say, is the sticking point of the talks.

Myers goes on to say it will take at east six month to hammer out a deal and come up with a framework, He goes on to blow for the Sussexes.”

This is what will start the divorce ball rolling. If she was able to merch, she would have hung on for another year or two and probably another baby. If the palace is going to vet every single deal, she cut her losses and run.

On the plus side, that means she will have to file for divorce in the UK.
Miggy said…
@xxxxx

His chewed cuticles were gross!
Mischief Girl said…
I'm working my way through the comments and have just come across the ones that mention a "friend" says poor MM found living within the BRF "toxic" and "soul crushing".

As many of you have already mentioned, I am gobsmacked that she would be so vile to the family and to Her Majesty. MM is now a proven liar. She clearly cannot be trusted. So--if I was Her Majesty, I'd give MM her walking papers. Harry is welcome to go, if he wants, but he is of the blood Royal and he's always welcome back if he ever comes to his senses.

Even if MM thinks she has something to lord over the BRF, she is so untrustworthy the BRF just needs to say "Lies! It's all a pack of lies!" and be done with it. That couple shouldn't get a cent (or pence). Who would believe whatever BRF dirty laundry she tries to sell?

Having said all that, I always like to ask "cui bono?" which is Latin for "who wins?" or "who stands to gain?"

WHY is MM saying these things? Cui bono? She would have to be in the end stages of significant delusions and mental illness to believe she is helping her case (the Sussex's case, but you know she's only thinking of herself) by making these statements. Is she part of an organization determined to bring down the Royal house? She is so completely unlikable and divisive that I can't believe any organization or brand would want her as spokeswoman. If she supported a charity I'd look for another one to support. She is thermonuclear toxic.

I lack the vocabulary to describe how much I dislike this woman, and (I'm not ashamed to admit this), I got up at 4:30 in the morning to watch their wedding. I was SO TOTALLY FOR THEM.

I know we live in interesting times, to quote the ancient Chinese curse, but her behavior is so completely "off" that I do wonder what MM (and her benefactor's?) end game really is.

Cui bono?
abbyh said…

To grocery store (National Enquirer - Meghan hating Kate, above the fold on the top page) and come home to learn the dam has released some build up.

Staff from Frogmore Cot reassigned (More of a shocker thinking that someone was supposedly there doing something there after all the posts that nothing is happening there).

Rose, friend of W (and H)'s wife (weddings, kids in weddings, same social strata, yada) making a pointed jab about stepping back. Ah, but did you notice that she's head of the membership committee for the nearby Soho House? Interesting turn of support.

Sandie
Comparing it to the Panorama interview - oh, my, my, my yes, way worse. What we are seeing is one angry person throwing molotov cocktails at the BRF, the palace, the UK and probably would like to have her husband taken out for failing in his mission to please her. And, I think she will continue her rampage.

BlueBell Woods
I think I will disagree that H should not have married an American. I think not that American. There are and were a lot of women who have a lot of respect and understanding of the monarchy, their role to be within it, open to learning from the family and staff to try to avoid embarrassing their spouse, family, country while they take on their new role. These women probably were not exciting to H the way she was and so he might well have overlooked someone the way he might have overlooked a lovely home grown woman.

Also, the part about why they took Frogmore Cott over KP. Just think, they would never have moved into KP because it won't be ready until the 4th quarter of this year. Their work within the BRF, for all practical purposes, didn't survive as long as the Palace renovation.

The Queen’s senior advisors have urged a “forensic examination” of any corporate deals for the Sussexes, which sources say will “be carefully considered on their merits and in an agreed framework”.
That framework, sources say, is the sticking point of the talks.

Well that will make for an interesting first half or more of this year, won't it? They need to make certain they avoid the Sussex name associated with something not good but when you factor in the huge time delay, they may well have lost the momentum they thought they had if they lose the HRH before the framework allows them to move forward. This could throw a lot of spanners in, just saying. Asking for plans in writing is neither racist or unreasonable.


ShadeeRrrowz said…
@Mischief Girl
” I'm working my way through the comments and have just come across the ones that mention a "friend" says poor MM found living within the BRF "toxic" and "soul crushing.”

I made the mistake of watching the engagement interview again the other day. She is asked over and over how she is being welcomed into the family. The reporter asks about HMTQ, PC, and Will and Kate. She states more than once that they are welcoming, have been great, fantastic, blah blah.
If we believe her, she is now asking us to believe everyone suddenly turned on a dime, going from overwhelmingly supportive to toxic.
I just don’t believe this “friend” over hers. It’s part of MM’s narrative and another PR planted story.
Glow W said…
“Warring Windsors: the real royal conflict is between Charles and his sons
What looked like a peace summit at Sandringham was, in fact, an escalation of the feud”
Camilla Tominey

https://spectator.us/warring-windsors-real-royal-conflict-between-charles-sons/

“Three years ago, Sir Christopher Geidt departed as the Queen’s private secretary. For years, he had done much to hold The Firm together, but his influence was resented by Prince Charles. The festering acrimony between Buckingham Palace and Clarence House came to a head in 2017 when Geidt, a Cambridge-educated former Scots Guard, convened a meeting of staff to announce Prince Philip’s retirement without first consulting Charles’s aides. Geidt ended up being forced out after a decade of unwavering service. Many in the family — including the Princess Royal and Edward — now blame straight-talking Lord Geidt’s absence for the bedlam that has since ensued.

Insiders described Geidt in reverential terms, praising him as an ‘extraordinary man manager’ and ‘strategic thinker’, who unlike some of his royal ‘principals’ had the ability to ‘see around corners’ and deftly handle internal palace politics with forceful subtlety. His replacement, Sir Edward Young, while respected and liked, is said to lack Geidt’s strength of personality. So, thanks largely to her eldest son, the Queen lost the only gatekeeper who was able to keep the warring Windsors in check.

Many have questioned why, as William and Harry’s father and only living parent, Charles has not been able to broker peace between his once inseparable sons. The truth is the royal brothers do not really listen to the ‘Papa’ they have long seemed to regard with a degree of affectionate ridicule. Charles has always been desperate for the approval of his two self-confessed ‘mummy’s boys’ and so historically has had to bring in outsiders to read the riot act, such as their former joint private secretary Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton.”

(Snipped)

Miggy said…
Rose had the Markles to a dinner party, so now I'm wondering if this was the 'leak' about them being unwanted because they insisted on sitting together and pawing each other rather than behaving with dignity. LOL
Wanda said…
@Hikari said: "Thanks for explaining there were two red-haired dummies." LOL!!!

"I really would like all of our British friends here to know that American woman, apart from the rabid sugars, are deeply and profoundly disgusted at how MM has represented American women in the UK. The Royals were kind enough to welcome another American divorcee to their ranks despite profound misgivings, and this is how she repays them for her 45 million pound wedding (complete with the Queen Mary tiara) carriages, a million pounds for clothes, millions more for a nice house, and all the goodwill possible."

I agree 100%. She does not represent us in any way imaginable!
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Everybody go to the clips on Take a look at BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime): https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime?s=09

NOW!!!!!!

Laurence Fox 💜

And some sensible lady named Madeline talking some sensible sense about "the brand", describing it as a woke-Goop meets Kardashians lololollollllllll
Humor Me said…
Question for Nutty or perhaps a new thread:
What is the difference between the Letters Patent” that used to be awarded to shops that royalty patronized versus “merchandising a la MM?
Miggy said…
@Scandi Sanskrit ,

Damn! I really wanted to watch that tonight and forgot due to a family emergency! ( I may watch it on 'catch-up' tomorrow)

Was Laurence on the panel?

I am really loving that guy for numerous reasons, not all M&H related either!
abbyh said…

Cui bono who wins? who stands to gain?

I think we have no idea of the true depths of her anger at not getting what she thought she deserved.

I think she is lashing out and wants everyone to feel pain because she is in such pain. (if I were H, going home to this might give me second thoughts of Do I really think that is a good idea?). I knew a gal (during college) who would not come home for a couple of days because after a couple of days, her family would be worried and no longer angry.

Now is just the first swords touching and feeling the metal of each other. Anger makes for lousy planning (short and long term). This is where that stiff upper lip of withholding emotions can allow you to outthink a non-thinking (ie angry) opponent. My money is on HM.



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DogsMatter said…
@BlueBell I have to agree with you that he should have married someone from the UK who was brought up with the monarchy & the culture of the different classes. Ppl in the UK know where you come from based on your dialect, etc. I am American & only know this because I spent time in the UK with a friend from there. It's just the way it is. It has nothing to do with race, mostly just who & where you are from within British society. They tried to embrace her, but she is just impossible. A normal American woman would have fared much better. She is just a disaster.
Miggy said…
Yet another negative article...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7896913/JAN-MOIR-Good-deeds-Meghan-Markle-yes-help-most.html
xxxxx said…
Miggy said...
Yet another negative article...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7896913/JAN-MOIR-Good-deeds-Meghan-Markle-yes-help-most.html


We know Photo bombing is getting yourself into a photo, usually a selfie. Megs specialty is photo ops bombing charities, like she did in Vancouver the other day. Dial a charity and show up. She is there to get photos of herself, not to help. Same as when these two silly people feature charities on their Sussex Instagram. I doubt these charities get more than a blip of an extra $1000 in donations, even less.
Anonymous said…
The Queen’s senior advisors have urged a “forensic examination” of any corporate deals for the Sussexes, which sources say will “be carefully considered on their merits and in an agreed framework”. That framework, sources say, is the sticking point of the talks.

Very smart. Perfect sense. Her Maj wanted things done neatly, cleanly, quickly - she is not to blame, nor are Chas & Wills. It was penciled in between lunch and tea, and it was all quite civil. Everyone tried, gosh they tried. They wished the Dumbartons well and, though sad, understood the young family's needs. Rach was able to leave and get back to "Archie" and Harry stayed to negotiate (clean up the mess & beg for mercy), and now whoopsy-daisy, it's going to take longer than anyone thought because of the senior advisors. Six months maybe before they can move forward, and who knows what information will slip out in that time that could tarnish the "brand" irreparably. I bet Rach is incandescent about now. I wonder if she'll use Fed Ex or UPS for the ring delivery? And WTH is Archie?

R_O said…
Just saw the article on Daily Mail that friends of Meghan are saying she can finally breathe and do what she pleases without permission and that being a Royal was soul-crushing. But she knew what she was getting into prior to marriage. Didn’t she willingly shut down the Tig and her instagram account? She also happily quit suits because she knows she won’t be able to be an actress after she becomes part of the Royal Family.
Cat, I'm so sorry to hear that your brother is missing. I've worked with families of missing persons before, and here are some ideas.
1. Ask his doctor if he can write up a diagnosis of dementia to present to the police. A person suffering from dementia, by Texas law, is to be considered an endangered person, and a report *must* be taken by the local police.
2. Keep what you say to the police to the very basics of facts. Don't discuss any of your brother's behaviors, only his dementia diagnosis and that he's missing.
3. Have you contacted the local media? Have you told them that the police won't take a missing person's report for a person with dementia? Contact the city desk.
4. If you live in a largish-city, look for your city's subreddit and post about your missing brother. Include a recent photo, if possible.
5. Missing persons, especially with dementia, often go to places from their childhood to teen years, as they remember the past much more than they do the present.
6. Is any food or water missing from his home? If not, he will be seeking them, so looking areas where he can get food and something to drink, possibly his old, favorite places. Ask to put up flyers with his photos and details of what he was last seen wearing in those locations.
7. Check into free legal services offered by the Texas Bar Association (lawyers). Many fine lawyers donate their time to these organizations.
8. Contact Alzheimer's Associations and see what they can do to help you and your brother.
9. Contact the mayor's office of your city, and explain the situation.
10. Contact the state district attorney's office.
11. Start a map of his original location and add any sightings to it. You may see a pattern of where he is headed.
12. You may find him trying to get to old haunts- his parents or grandparents homes, places that he loved in his youth, old friends homes, his fav burger joint in high school, etc., even if they're in another area of Texas or another state.
13. Contact the Doe Network for Missing Persons-
http://www.doenetwork.org/
14.If he is spotted in rough terrain, look into search and rescue groups in your area. Here's a Texas organization dedicated to free searches by horseback, Texas EquuSearch, but you must have a police case number first.


Do these things as soon as you can, as the first 48 hours are crucial to a successful outcome. I sincerely hope that your brother is found. The fact that he has been sighted is very, very good news.
Read the link below which outlines Texas law in regard to missing persons with dementia.
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0058.htm

I hope this helps you. Good luck!
xxxxx said…
@Elle, Reine des Abeilles said...

So why is Megs letting Harry negotiate anything? Why doesn't Megs just proceed with all her Sussex Royal merching schemes? The threat must be that checkbook Charles will cut off the Duchy of Cornwall money. And Hapless never, ever digs into his inheritances.

Megs - "But if you loved me and Archie you would"
SwampWoman said…
@Elle Very smart. Perfect sense. Her Maj wanted things done neatly, cleanly, quickly - she is not to blame, nor are Chas & Wills. It was penciled in between lunch and tea, and it was all quite civil. Everyone tried, gosh they tried. They wished the Dumbartons well and, though sad, understood the young family's needs. Rach was able to leave and get back to "Archie" and Harry stayed to negotiate (clean up the mess & beg for mercy), and now whoopsy-daisy, it's going to take longer than anyone thought because of the senior advisors. Six months maybe before they can move forward, and who knows what information will slip out in that time that could tarnish the "brand" irreparably. I bet Rach is incandescent about now. I wonder if she'll use Fed Ex or UPS for the ring delivery? And WTH is Archie?


A forensic examination also suggests to me that the examiners will be looking for any evidence of financial crime. Am I wrong?
Wanda said…
abbyh said:
"I think I will disagree that H should not have married an American. I think not that American."

I guess this is a matter of opinion. (I'm American BTW)
Considering the traditional nature of the monarchy I believe that he would have been better off with a British wife - one who respected the RF. If we are to believe the latest blind she conned him into the marriage anyway.

"Also, the part about why they took Frogmore Cott over KP. Just think, they would never have moved into KP because it won't be ready until the 4th quarter of this year. Their work within the BRF, for all practical purposes, didn't survive as long as the Palace renovation."

Yes, but my whole point was that I believe she lied about all of this on her website. She claims they could have had it if they had been able to wait.
But I have read in many places that they were never offered the KP apartment. I believe the RF had it earmarked for expansion into working space for William as he moves into his Prince of Wales position. I read it will save money as they will not then have to prepare another home for him when he steps up. I think Charles wants to stay in Clarence House when he becomes King so William can not move to that residence.

Also, there is a connecting door in that apartment in a shared wall opening into the Cambridge home, and if William needed a scarf to keep her at bay while just standing near her, I doubt he would want her living so close.🤣🤣

The Harkles also asked to live in a section of Windsor Castle and the Queen told them NO (!!) MM didn't mention THAT in her tale of their royal home search.
If anyone knows any different or any more about the living arrangements please let us know.
Wanda said…
@Elle - Maybe Fauxchie will be shipped back with the rings?
Wanda said…
@AntsyNancy - oh yes, I didn't mean race at all. He could have married a nice British black woman.

I've been thinking - maybe someone in the family should look for a nice girl for him - someone willing to marry into the royal family (or a part-time royal if that is what he wants to be) and a match for his personality (hey there's got to be someone out there) - maybe a Chelsy Davy type. She would have to be quite attractive. Then they can introduce them while the Harkles are on separate continents and let Hazza become interested in this new person. I'm only partially joking here. He has always had a wondering eye - how hard would it be to get it to focus on someone else? It could possibly break the narc hold megatron has on him.
Fifi LaRue said…
@BlueBell: She'd have to be not too bright because Harry isn't bright, and she'd not have to care that he'd be too cheap to spend any money on her. That's a tall order to fill. Maybe get someone average looking with money of her own who doesn't want to share it. Someone willing to carry out Royal duties.
CatEyes said…
I know this is OT but it is vital I thank all the people for their kindness, prayers and wonderful suggestions re:my missing elderly brother w/dementia. Sorry, this didn't happen sooner, but I have been gone until now (traveled 150 miles to Pulmonary Rehab in Dallas). and now it is evening.

@MeliticusBee Thank you for your insight on the local rural LE in Texas and how to communicate with them. I will keep that in mind when I go to the Sheriff office tomorrow and hopefully get some help. God Bless you for your concern!!

@abbyh Thank you for your links to great websites I had no idea about, I will look them up after I write this message. Most of all thank you for prayers and God Bless You I really appreciate it!! I am a big believer in Prayers and so is my brother.

@Animal Lover Yes, Silver Alert is good, but deputies initially responding did not even know about criteria and did not do anything. Now that I know I will bring this up to the Sheriff office tomorrow. when I go in. Thank you and God Bless You for your concern!!

@JocellynsBillinis Wow, oh wow, I was blown away by all of your suggestions. Just amazing you are so resourceful. God Bless You!!

I read these messages tonight and it brought tears to my eyes to know that people on an impersonal type blog so-to-speak can be so kind. You have shown to be true humanitarians and took the time to help a stranger (and by extension my brother).I will say a prayer for ya'll in thanksgiving that God has human angels among us. And thanks to others that I was allowed to mention this even tho it was off topic.
Mimi said…
catEyes, we are all fellow human beings....most of us hurt when our brother/sister is hurt. Nobody likes to see people in pain. Your pain is big...there is so little we can do except offer up our prayers and words of support.
Snippy said…
Just waiting for the photo op at Covenant House in Vancouver. Lainey used to live in Vancouver before she moved to Toronto, and was involved with that non-profit. Would not be surprised if some of her connections were behind the 2 "visits" on Tuesday. And wholeheartedly agree with previous posters: people running these organizations are busy and have schedules; who wants some interloper just dropping in out of the blue and commandeering their time? Like they just sit around with nothing better to do??
Peony2 said…
She is a US snowflake - a democRAT - so she thinks she in entitled to everything and it should not cost her a thing - no work for it or earn it in any way - she's just soooooo special she deserves it because she is breathing -

Unfortunately she infected Harry with this virus and and its like Ebola - hard to cure and treat - I hope a cure can be found -

She is permanently infected so lost to reasonable methods of cure.
Magatha Mistie said…
@BlueBell Woods. The Times reported that H & M asked for a section of Windsor Castle, the Queen said no, & gave them Tadpole Towers instead. HM shade, perfect.
Portcitygirl said…
@peony2, we have a lot of them here.
I'm sure she and he are aware. Plus she may assume we don't care about HM. And maybe a lot don't, but a lot of us do. Imo, our Presidents cannot hold a candle to her.
Portcitygirl said…
@Susan Wilson, not all Dems are snowflakes just like not all pubs are right wingers.
I've heard both sides who are smart enough to read between the lines who are appalled by this and the tone deaf way it was handled. Most respect HMTQ.
Glow W said…
@peony purple voter here. I vote for the best person, whether dem or repub
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Miggy: yes he was on the panel and there are vidoes on that Twitter account if you missed it (I was asleep in a different timezone).

And yes Laurence is lovable for numerous reasons. I bet he has a HUGE fanbase in countries like Japan (he looks like every male lead in the manga like, he's that type). 💜💜💜💜
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I know Nutty prefers we don't talk politics, but my God does that Jezza self-sabotage his party harder than I self-sabotage my love life on dating apps/sites! 😂😂

Like, I call him Sir Expat Aid Worker now. He's a "Sir" because apparently he is *that out-of-touch*... (Hope I got his pronouns right.)

Anyway, I'm just learned how small the "woke" population actually is & and I'm very happy about it. You think there's tones of them but it's not, it's just that the mainstream media are run by them, so they get the air-time.

The more a Sleb is "cancelled", the more they're loved by the general public, I imagine!

The last UK elections didn't need Russian intervention at all.

Even my Indonesian friends (the non-industry folk) feel patronised by Hollywood "diversity casting", it's just the thirtsy industry people who play along with it in hopes that they'll "go international" someday if they act "Hollywood" enough. Pathetic!

It's almost as if you can gauge how thirsty a celebrity is by how far down the woke rabbit hole you're willing to fall into.
Jdubya said…
i don't know if this link has already been posted - but what an incredible insight to Harry by someone who really knows. Rebecca English

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7896645/REBECCA-ENGLISH-reveals-touching-insight-Prince-Harrys-personality.html
Peony2 said…
Thanks Tatty, Port City, Suzanne et al . - One cousin is a Repub. the other is a Democrat so I hear both sides of every position -
I am a Canadian -NOT a Liberal so I have my own biases - BUT what I do respect is family - the Queen giving 93 years of her life for the Commonwealth and in spite of many scandals and difficult situations throughout her life - she is a lady be respected and honoured and admired.....

I deeply resent this lack of respect given to what would be considered by many throughout this world to be a great honour and a gift for your children to be part of and abandoned by this part time - former actress -

As for Harrys constant "poor me" my mother died - pity party - well I am tired of that as well -this world is full of children whose parents have died and some in tragedies like the amazing boy who just spoke at his father Masouds funeral - his son was 11 and a giant of a young man .in character..........

His Dad died in the recent Iran plane shot down -

So sorry I no longer have a so sad moment for Harry - nor for his choice of a wife -

Initially I thought well great - now he can get on with life - when he got married - now I think cut them both loose and give them nothing - they are a waste of air -

And I would sincerely appreciate they get NO MORE media coverage - they are a waste of space.
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Unknown said…
come on guys, no politics! lets keep our eye on the thing that unites us...taking down the grifter destroying the monarchy!!!
DesignDoctor said…
@Elle@Tatty Yes, it is way too engrossing. And the number of comments has exploded since last week's events. IMO it's like watching a train wreck in slo-mo or a really good Shakespearean play.
As I have said befor I love all the interesting discussion here. Thanks, Nutties!
Anonymous said…
@Trudy Blue lololol. Then she's definitely going to need confidential overnight delivery but without a signature required, and we can't possibly know the names of the delivery service providers.


xxxxxx, re: this: So why is Megs letting Harry negotiate anything? Why doesn't Megs just proceed with all her Sussex Royal merching schemes?

My guesses:

1. Fear of God and Queen. I think she's a coward. She is rash, impulsive, arrogant, but she is also a coward.

2. No choice. She may have been escorted out politely by the BRF who would not want to meet with her because of her previous "indiscretions", and by that I mean, big fat lies and complete inability to act with decency, discretion, or integrity.

3. Sussex Royal is a title given her and one which can be taken away. She would be shut down very quickly if she tried using it without an agreement in place. Can you imagine how that would impact future deals?

4. Without the BRF blessing and approval, who would want to sign on with Rach & H knowing Sussex Royal could be blown up and shut down?

5. Except for her temper-tantrum-throwing abilities, she's really not that smart and would be of no real use and could do extensive harm with her lack of respect and decency.

I could go on, but I think you get the drift of my thoughts on this. I think it had more to do with the actual grown-ups in the room who do not want to deal with a sleazy grifter when there's just no reason to do so.


@Swampwoman astute observation, and I also thought this was odd:

The Queen’s senior advisors have urged a “forensic examination” of any corporate deals for the Sussexes, which sources say will “be carefully considered on their merits and in an agreed framework”.

I thought it an unusual choice because often "forensic" and "fraud" go hand in hand. It made me think of William's concerns and how he had ordered a review of the foundation after the split. I can certainly understand the reason for examining the deals in advance, before they are approved, and vetting all of the players and products involved, but the statement does seem to imply something more "after the fact-ish" and untoward, IMO.


For those who aren;t familiar: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forensicaccounting.asp

(forgot the link earlier, and I like to provide objective sources)

Forensic accounting utilizes accounting, auditing and investigative skills to conduct an examination into the finances of an individual or business. Forensic accounting provides an accounting analysis suitable to be used in legal proceedings. Forensic accountants are trained to look beyond the numbers and deal with the business reality of a situation. Forensic accounting is frequently used in fraud and embezzlement cases to explain the nature of a financial crime in court.
Understanding Forensic Accounting

Forensic accountants analyze, interpret and summarize complex financial and business matters. They may be employed by insurance companies, banks, police forces, government agencies or public accounting firms. Forensic accountants compile financial evidence, develop computer applications to manage the information collected and communicate their findings in the form of reports or presentations.
Wanda said…
@Magatha Mistie Tadpole Towers!!!! LOL!!!:-)

@Portcitygirl @Suzanne Wilson @Peony2 - We've got Independents here too!! 🏁🏁🏁

@rabbit how about a chelsy type?
Anonymous said…

And @Swampwoman that wording indicates that there may be some inked that are already of concern. If Rach & H did sign those, and they are not found to be legitimate/legal/worthy, etc., then putting a stop to it now avoids great pain later, and also puts the brakes on Rach just doing whatever because it's hard to imagine any business partner who would want to go up against the BRF in order to sign the Rach & H show, amusing as those two little dickens are to all.
Wanda said…
@Cat Eyes - Please let us know how you make out. It must be scary and upsetting for both you and your brother.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Wanda said…
@Elle - thanks for all the good info. I'll have to absorb it tomorrow as I'm too tired now. I'm signing off but just wanted to know if you've seen their new website? They seem to have a lot of plans - all outlined before the RF meeting.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
BlueBell Woods said...
@Lt. Nyota Uhura -
I am also a fan of the original Star Trek and remember that episode well!
It's funny but I have a Star Trek episode reference for the Harkles too - one that I've had since the first few months of their marriage!

Blue Bell Woods said --

IMO MM's appearance went down-hill after she got married. She apparently had a stylist on Suits, and cared more about the way she looked before she got the ring on her finger. After the wedding she began to look sloppy, her hair was/is awful, she exhibited poor grooming, and her facial features constantly morph and change (they still do).

So - I was reminded of the episode "Mudd's Women": A con-man is transporting three gorgeous woman to become the brides for men in a mining colony on a remote planet. Once they arrive the show portrays them losing their beauty as they rapidly age and become unattractive right before everyone's eyes. The con is discovered - the woman are only beautiful after taking a "Venus Drug".
IOW - MM's appearance was a manufactured construct.

--------------------

Markle to a T, a female instead of a male, same difference LOL -- Good one, Blue Bell!
Animal Lover said…
@CatEyes

You may want to enlist Adult Protective Services in your area if you get no satisfaction from LE.

A Silver Alert is like an Amber Alert except it's or vulnerable adults.

Good luck.
Anonymous said…

@Trudy Blue I glanced at their website, but those are just words on a virtual page, pipe dreams, unilateral decisions, and lofty pronouncements (aka merde of the bull) made by the Dumbartons. While their chutzpah in approaching the BRF is astounding, I'm pretty sure that the BRF didn't read it and think, "well, that's that then, we'll do as it says", and that is why I didn't bother to read it in detail.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Sorry about that one political post above, Nutty.

For context, the only reason I posted about Jezza was because i saw this: https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1217449762594664451?s=21




Corbyn agrees there has been "racial undertones" to media coverage of the Duchess of Sussex

https://t.co/Ieuk5bQwQU https://t.co/VH9p6G8vEl




I won't mention it again
Scandi Sanskrit said…
I hope you find your brother, CatEyes.

Call the police, here are some vidoes of missing elderly people who were found in the end: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpbeXAo_RfM0wmKEZVP4Mz7PwsBTmWKsP
HappyDays said…
Swamp Woman said....
A forensic examination also suggests to me that the examiners will be looking for any evidence of financial crime. Am I wrong?

@Swamp Woman: Apologies this reply is long and in two parts.

You have hit the nail on the head! The RF knows Meghan’s duplicitous nature, which means they can’t trust her as far as HM can throw her.

Due to her extreme greed, without close oversight by the RF, she is more than likely to attempt business deals that will tear down what’s left of the BRF for her immediate profit and satisfaction.

Harry isn’t really much more than the vehicle she is using to create the vast Sussex Royal empire to benefit who else? Meghan! He is just the window dressing she needs to lend limping royal aura to the venture.

She also can’t be trusted with the funds that may flow into the Sussex Royal foundation. I can see her paying herself and Harry 7-figure salaries AND expensing private jet travel or perhaps even buying a private jet for “foundation business trips,” luxury lodgings, OTT designer clothes (I would bet a year of my income we will shortly see her in the front row at the Paris, New York, and / or Milan couture shows, but probably not London, heh heh.) jewelry, all her personal beauty upkeep, luxury vehicles, etc. She will use the foundation as a personal bank teller machine which she will access with her Amex Black Card.

Dodgy dealings can reflect poorly on the RF, so I don’t blame them for wanting to keep her on a short leash. However, this is control, and not being in control drives narcs like Meghan crazy, well crazier than they already are. I think this control will be a huge flashpoint in the future between the RF and the Sussexes.

I’m hoping Meghan’s narcissism will grow exponentially especially after she incrementally moves from Canada to LA. It sure won’t shrink. I think their brand is already heavily damaged, so they might not be as big of a draw as her ego thinks they’ll be.

I think she will initially make some money due to the novelty being an American with a royal title. But their problem is that due to the way they have handled the past two weeks, they have irreparably diminished themselves, which cuts into their overall ability to generate income.

They look look like two nasty money grubbers who don’t care about an elderly monarch who has dutifully served her country with honor and distinction for 75 years, her ailing husband, Harry’s father, his brother, and the royal family in general.
HappyDays said…
Part 2

Also, because they are establishing their own orbit in the royal universe and did it in such a nasty selfish manner, even if they keep some sort of titles, they will be royals in name only, circling around the outskirts of the REAL royal family that lives in the UK.

Corporate sponsors and deep-pocket donors will think probably twice about establishing deep connections with the Sussexes. It’s not as if H&M will be able to recommend anyone for the queen’s New Year honors list, an invite to the royal box at Wimbledon, or an invite to one of the queen’s annual series of garden parties, is it? Also, due to their ages, they are becoming less and less appealing the 18-35 demographic, especially the younger end of it.

To a wider extent, they also told the citizenry of the UK and the Commonwealth to go F themselves.

For as long as she lives, the queen will remember being what palace staff termed being “stabbed in the back” by the Sussexes. Charles will remember it, and so will William. And they have yet to rule. The British public will also remember it. Heck, they still remember Wallis.

The RF will never be able to trust Harry again. Ever. They already knew they can’t trust Meghan.

And, as a result, because Harry and Meghan will be royals in name only, with little or no access to the unseen power possessed by the monarchy, their influence will likely be minimal.

In essence, they will be allowed to stand on the doorstep, but they won’t be allowed to enter the house ever again.

They won’t be able to offer the world any real or imagined access to the invisible power and influence of the monarchy, and others in powerful positions already know it. As when you know both parties in a divorce, their “friends” will usually align themselves with one spouse or the other for the aftermath. Real movers and shakers will line up with the monarchy instead of the Sussexes.

This will be interesting to watch!
Wanda said…
@Elle I only glanced at it at first too. But when you start clicking the links and going through it you'll see they are planning on basically doing the same as always but on their own terms and earning their own money, They even have their foundations all listed. It very much looks like a royal family member's site for the most part. They also have info on the royal fam history. And they have quite a bit of questions and answers apparently authored by smerkel. I only just started looking at it and found a lie already. When you have a chance - no hurry - dive a bit deeper. It's pretentious and aggressive. 🔎🔎🔎 (I just found a way to get more emojis-although these don't look too much like magnifying glasses)
Wanda said…
Fox announces TV special this month on Megxit
Tim Balk
By TIM BALK
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |

Fox announced plans Thursday to air an hour-long TMZ report Jan. 29 that it said will cut to the core of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s decision to step back from the royal family. “Harry & Meghan: The Royals in Crisis” will draw its account from more than a dozen sources close to the royals, according to Fox.
(This is supposed to include a discussion on the "quiet moves" H&M are making into the entertainment world.)
Starry said…
Hey all,

Reading about Frogmore House staff being let go.

Other senior Royals like Anne, Edward, Andrew, Peter Philips etc all have GRAND COUNTRY MANOR ESTATES. Frogmore House is not on that scale, let's face it.

Along with several posters above, I also don't buy the explanation on their website:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex chose to move to Windsor for various reasons. Their previous residence of Nottingham Cottage on the grounds of Kensington Palace could not accommodate their growing family. The option of Apartment 1 in Kensington Palace was estimated to cost in excess of £4 million for mandated renovations including the removal of asbestos (see details above on the Monarchy’s responsibility for this upkeep). This residence would not have been available for them to occupy until the fourth quarter of 2020. As a result, Her Majesty The Queen offered The Duke and Duchess the use of Frogmore Cottage, which was already undergoing mandated renovations, and would be available to move in before the birth of their son. The refurbishment cost equated to 50 percent of the originally suggested property for their proposed official residence at Kensington Palace. It is for these reasons, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex chose Frogmore Cottage as their Official Residence.

Do you think Her Maj gave them a "lesser" home as part of the long game to Megxit?
Anonymous said…
@Trudy Blue It did look complete-ish, pretentious, and aggressive.

@Happy Days pretty much sums it up beautifully with this:

They won’t be able to offer the world any real or imagined access to the invisible power and influence of the monarchy, and others in powerful positions already know it. As when you know both parties in a divorce, their “friends” will usually align themselves with one spouse or the other for the aftermath. Real movers and shakers will line up with the monarchy instead of the Sussexes.

The BRF has let the world know how this is going to go down, and they didn't need a royal website to do it lol. This was handled perfectly, the way I'd have expected. NO fingerprints at the scene.
HappyDays said…
@CatEyes: The power of prayer is great. Prayers are going out from my home that your brother is located safe and sound as soon as possible. Blessings to you and your brother.
Anonymous said…
Totally agree, great summary @Happy Days. It's like the corgis marked their territory lol.
HappyDays said…
Meghan’s new status as a free-range royal will only serve to magnify her narcissistic and diva behavior, which means she will burn people in the same manner she as she has done all her life, but on a worldwide scale. Look at how fast she has poisoned her own well in the UK and to a certain extent, the commonwealth. By association, Harry’s is also poison.

As a narcissist, Meghan will not listen to advice or opinions that do not reflect her own opinions and ideas back to her. That doesn’t make her terribly collaborative.

I read something the other day from an anonymous palace staffer who said Meghan sends anyone who says anything that doesn’t agree with her and Harry’s half-baked unrealistic ideas quickly to the exit door. Most of their ideas, which are actually hers, are designed to glorify herself, such as the stunt to write on the bananas for anonymous sex workers that totally bombed out.

The staffer said she doesn’t even want listen to suggestions that might improve her ideas. Basically, Meghan is a “It’s my way or the highway” type, which is a manifestation of her need for total control.

When millions of dollars and other peoples’s careers, corporate profits for shareholders who have retirement money invested in the company, and corporate reputations are on the line, she won’t be able to get away with forcing her half-baked ideas. If she does and a project has a poor ROI or actually is a loss, her reputation will suffer.

I think Meghan will make a small fortune, with an emphasis on small, but I also think the palace knows that in a relatively short period of time, as she has quickly managed to do in the UK, she will piss off so many people, burn so many bridges and dump so many others that she’ll inevitably dig her own grave with her sources of money and connections.

Sponsors and show business entities will be more than happy to wave a royal goodbye and move on to the next flavor-of-the-week in a better age demographic who has ascended to the top of the heap. Meghan’s and Harrys money will have been recklessly spent by then.

Katherine Heigl comes to mind as someone who lit the match that destroyed her own career, and I think Meghan will follow a similar path of self-immolation.

In the late 90s and early 2000s, Heigl was a Hollywood “it girl” with a golden future ahead of her, but she was such a bitch and diva that she was written out of shows and couldn’t get work for years. She is now only just starting to get work again.

The RF can wait her out. They have some time. After HM, there are three more monarchs available to eventually take the job.
Dido said…
New article on the DM re: MM
Meghan Markle's ex-husband Trevor Engelson was spotted a hair salon in Beverly Hills on Thursday

According to The Sun, Meghan sent her wedding ring back to Engelson after they split. Before marrying for a second time, Engelson dated a few other high-profile women, including The Real Housewives of New York star Bethenny Frankel.

At his bachelor party in Miami Beach in March last year the Hollywood producer was roasted over his connection to royalty.
In social media footage a group of friends is seen lifting up their glasses to toast Engelson and one of them looks across to him and says: 'This right here... this right here is to royalty, you know what I'm saying?' To chuckles from the group, and the clinking of glasses, he continues: 'Royalty won, royalty lost... But regardless baby, we got to keep going!'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7897321/Meghan-Markles-ex-husband-Trevor-Engelson-seen-time-Megxit.html

Also, there is this article in The Sun about Meghan being spotted driving around in Vancouver.

Check out this oddly worded sentence, Meanwhile, another source told Us Weekly that the Duchess has been spotted "driving herself" around the local area for errands - and "using the drugstore parking lot". ("Using the drugstore parking lot"? What in the world? What does that even mean?) It goes on to say that it is thought that Meghan will be flying to LA in the coming days to see Doria. (No mention of Archie)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10738867/meghan-markle-spotted-vancouver-low-profile-prince-harry-royal-crisis/
Anonymous said…
I missed this before:

Meghan Markle was spotted visiting another Canadian charity yesterday, with Prince Harry still in the UK
Boss of shelter revealed she received a 'mysterious' Hotmail email from non-royal aide setting up meeting


Maybe it was someone on the Sussex Royal media team lololol
brown-eyed said…
@CatEyes. Hope you are feeling better and have located your brother. There was an excellent list of things to consider posted by a Nuttie that I thought was terrific. I think much of the check list you have done. Hope he’s home and you can de-stress.
Magatha Mistie said…
DM has video of her driving with her RPO, smarmy smirking face as usual. No doubt she called the paps, sickening.
Camper said…
@Lt Uhuru

Thank you for your kind words.
Sandie said…
This is supposedly an extract from a Financial Times article:

'...the royal editor of the Daily Mirror came on the programme to discuss Meghan and Harry’s dismissal of the royal rota. He said afterwards that his newspaper had tried hard to be helpful to the couple, offering to cover their latest charity. But when the journalist looked up the charity, all he could find was a series of memes on positive thinking.'

This is getting messy, even for Megsy
Ava C said…
I liked this one. On DM reader commenting on speculation as to how Harry will handle the realities of living in Canada. 'He's never had to handle the realities of living in the UK."
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning, all.

I see Burger King has offered Harry a job, or at least their social media team has.

"If you’re looking for a job, we have a new crown for you,” one Burger King ad reads. “We have a proposition for you: do as thousands of people and take your first steps in the world of work with us."

But seriously, folks, what's he going to do with all his time now that he's no longer a "Senior Royal"?

Who would hire him? He has very little education, and no experience doing anything but showing up.

I suppose he has British military experience. Maybe one of Andrew's dictator friends will offer Harry a job training his troops.


Camper said…
@Nutty

That made me laugh, I can just imagine him totally rocking their uniform

My thoughts this morning are did Meghan pick up a PR/lawyer person from the airport, I can’t imagine they’re a friend, did you recognise them? Is Harry going to stay much longer in the U.K? They said a few more days, but with a 6 month limbo stage for the ‘forensic accounting’ if he sits indoors in Canada there are only so many jigsaws he can do. Idle hands make work for the devil.
Magatha Mistie said…
@nutty. He would be better served at Wimpy Burgers Uk. Then again it’s British, not to his taste!
@Swampwomen, ‘A forensic examination also suggests to me that the examiners will be looking for any evidence of financial crime. Am I wrong?’

That’s my take on it, I agree with Elle.
Sorry that should have been Swampwoman! Pfft phone!
xxxxx said…
When the going gets tough the tough do Pilates
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7897731/Meghan-Markle-drives-Canadian-airport-Land-Rover-pick-friend.html
Lady Luvgood said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7898081/Meghan-Markle-never-actually-stepped-foot-Canada-womens-center.html

So, it appears that Meghan never set foot in the Women’s Center, she met with Staff at their office location in a former Hotel.

Oh this is too funny, and I knew she wouldn’t be meeting with their vulnerable clients and posting pictures.

She just showed up to have her picture taken, as per her woke work ethic.

How did the Royal Family go from the family she never had to so toxic she had to leave or risk her mental health.

Seems the Royals were good enough to pay for her wedding and give her a home, but now they are toxic, ok Meghan.

Charles had long planned an estate in Wales for Harry, Harry turned it down, and seems The Express we’re right on the money
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1172713/royal-news-latest-meghan-markle-prince-harry-la-move-snub-charles-Hertfordshire-estate-pla
Sandie said…
I thought it had been established that she went to the office and met with staff, and not the building where the at-risk women are housed. A visit from Meghan would increase risk for those women surely? So, I think the issue was the safety of the women and not Meghan.

This is not a defence of Meghan, but DM is really spinning to try to put Meghan at fault. It is enough that she used the organisation for a photo op and had the arrogance to say that her visit was to boost morale, or something like that.
I had decided to stay off the Harley drama today, but then this popped up on my recommended list today and I just had to share.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/16/duchess-meghan-offered-job-adult-website-royal-split-12071010/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly

Apparently, this adult website offered MM a porn job to jump start her new post-rotal career. This is just for laughs, btw, not my personal opinion.
Camper said…
Who flies in their Pilates instructor? I suppose that’s thriving and not just surviving. Maybe the next trip we’ll see a huge crate of avocados being wheeled to the car.
Magatha Mistie said…
She’s mad, as in crazy? Whether she’s realised she’s not getting what she wanted from the RF, or she thinks she has dirt for bargaining, she’s lost it. If she does have backers, they will be getting nervous/peed off. Very dangerous all round.
gabes_human said…
@Cateyes, wow, I live in Galveston County and we have Silver Alerts the same as Amber Alerts. They pop up on lighted signs on I10, my calble emergency alert and my IPhone. My gerontologist assured me a couple of months ago that my own memory issues aren’t from dementia but none of us is getting any younger. I often retweet messages for missing pets. If the local constabulary is being uncooperative maybe you could tweet a description and a photo? Poor dear, he must be frightened, not to mention the fact that he’s fair game for the baddies out there. Sorry to blather on but I’m tears eyed just thinking about it. I’m sending my best hopes that you have him home and safe soon.
Ròn said…
Harry is going to be BORED ! He's not exactly entrepreneurial. He has no burning ambitions (except to leave the RF). He has the attention span of a gnat. He doesn't do detail - the detail has always been done for him. It's all going to be down to her. And she might end up wondering what the point of him is.
Ava C said…
Just watched the Laurence Fox clip from BBC Question Time. Avoided even reading about it when other Nutties mentioned him as all actor luvvies seem to be in Meghan's pocket and it makes me so mad. However, when I saw hearts next to his name in an earlier post I took a look and he was great. Especially turning the racist accusation back on the questioner when she had a go about him being white etc.

What troubled me was, judging by the applause, there was significant support for the questioner, and you could see the anger and frustration on other faces about that. Clenched jaws. The final applause seemed balanced 50/50. Narcs like to set people against each other. Meghan has divided populations! Not just in this country. Then skipped away laughing.

She hasn't even managed to last a week before showing blatant disloyalty to a monarchy and country who have funded her so generously. There's no way I can see the Queen compromising with her as much as it seemed she was planning after Sandringham. I agree the BRF are taking a wise course, stressing how long the planning will take, and the great thing is that it's fully justified. Everyone can see how complex it is except those two. By then, Meghan will have used and abused the words 'Sussex' and 'Royal' so much there will be no question of her being allowed to keep them.

Articles in the DM today have hardened me still further against Harry. It's plain that he wants this too, and has always wanted all the perks and none of the work or scrutiny. Meghan being of the same mind by nature, their meeting was a perfect storm.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Camper -- It is you I will thank. You have made a difference you will never know. :}

As far as Markle -- I am American, but a staunch Royalist. No real ties, aside from having lived 3 years in England in the 80s, but a lifelong love of the cradle of Western Civilization.

Markle is an abomination. It is my hope she goes down in flames in the court of public opinion, and in her own life, for what she has done. The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh have given their lives to preserve the Royal Family, and for Hapless Harry and his concubine to smash it is beyond belief.

Okay, off of the soap box :)


Magatha Mistie said…
@Ron. I agree, Meg is also not good on detail, & only a notch or two higher on intelligence. Their/her downfall will be Money. As others have said forensic accountants may reveal more than they bargained for. That, & their total disrespect for the Queen.
God Save the Queen
Miggy said…
@Ava C and Scandi Sanskrit,

Laurence Fox has no time for all this 'woke' nonsense.

Off topic, (so I apologise) - but if you find time to spare, this interview with Triggernometry is worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgvv6EXfc0


Good morning :O)

I spotted this comment under the DM article linked earlier:

That was a tipped off pictures. Same photographers that kardashian pay off to take their pics.

I don't know much about photographers/PR etc, so does anyone else have any insight into this? If true, does the fact she's using a photographer linked to the Kardashians mean she's slipping down in pulling power already (don't know much about the K's either tbh, but in my mind they're not "proper" celebs), or is it something as simple as she just wants to use the same people as they do?

Link to the article to save people having to scroll to find it:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7897731/Meghan-Markle-drives-Canadian-airport-Land-Rover-pick-friend.html

Also, a little random, but has anyone else's adblocker suddenly stopped having tantrums on the DM? I've been pausing mine temporarily just to read the linked articles but the other day it stopped telling me to turn it off, I think it was the day the Sussex website went live and everything kicked off. I've updated my browser and checked everything else I can think of in case something went wonky but can't see a reason why it's now letting me freely access it with adblocker still turned on. The conspiracy theorist side of me has started wondering whether the DM have altered settings on their side to gain a wider audience but the logical side of me is telling me not to be silly and that it's just a weird random glitch or something that I shouldn't be complaining about lol
Sandie said…
Photographers tipped off that she was going to be at the airport? Well, they would not have been camped out at the airport all day every day ...

But what is more likely is that they are watching the house, saw her leave (she made no attempt to hide herself) and followed her to the airport.

Yes, I know, I would not put it past her to have tipped them off through some intermediary.

Anyone else notice that when she is out and about with Harry and photographers just happen to know where they are, she puts down her head, puts up her hand, acts like she is avoiding being photographed. When she is on her own, she makes sure they get the best angle and makes no attempt to hide whatsoever. Harry is supposed to read everything that is published about him. How come he has not noticed this marked difference in her behaviour and not questioned it? What kind of BS did she spin with him to explain this marked difference?
Miggy said…
@Lurking With Spoon,

Thanks for the info re AdBlock. I've turned mine off to due to your post and so far so good.
I hope it lasts! :)
Miggy said…
Blasted typo! *too*
Magatha Mistie said…
It’s the same pap photographers, Splash, they also photo her mum each month on her dog walks. She put her head down, thankfully it wasn’t a repeat of 90210.
Anonymous said…


Sometimes it's hard to believe what I'm reading. Today's surprise: Rachel had her private Pilates instructor fly into BC. Seriously? And she's dissing the BRF again, calling them toxic? That's endearing.
Or surreal and foolish and offensive and trashy and mean and, yes, toxic. Is there anyone more toxic than Rach?

These two have 30-40 million between them.
Private security, Range Rovers at the ready, Pilates instructors flying in for visits, a freebie mansion, chartered seaplanes for the asking, etc.
They wasted several million pounds of other people's money on a house they likely didn't live in and have been given millions for ugly clothes and to fund their garish lifestyle. Let's not even think about what this OTT PR is costing.
They've private jetted around like nouveau riche rap stars (Rachy Rach and the Harry P, perhaps?) while lecturing about their goodness and greenness.
Both have intentionally embarrassed and insulted HMTQ, the BRF, and the taxpayers who have supported them.
And yet, the two are demanding, via their virtual manifesto and whatever simpering the Hairy P is doing in private, that the BRF basically pay them to leave and continue supporting the pair until they are "financially independent"?

I think I could be "financially independent" on 30-40 million (I'm the frugal type), but I'm wondering what exactly constitutes financial independence and quite enough for those two, because my guess is that by the time this plays out, the free world will have had quiet enough of them, and then what?

I'm afraid that there won't be anything left of their brand after six months of forensic accountants and Rach's pretentious and entitled flouncing about and flaunting her
'poor me' status thru daily papp walks. And then what? If they destroy their brand and can't live off the paltry 30-40 million they have, will they just move into Chas' basement and complain that they weren't allowed to self-actualize?

I guess the bright side is that they don't want the place in Wales (think how happy all of Wales must be!). So, Chas, if you're reading here, please note that I'd be happy to live there and I promise to welcome the red squirrels inside.
Miggy said…
Discussion:

Does Canada want Harry and Meghan? | The Pledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8QlaCrC4b0
@Ron

Agree with yoou. She is probably already wonder what the point of Harry is and hence all the random chaos. It must be hard and seem quite pointless to live with someone like Harry. Especially to.luve with someone who is so clingy and follows you around like a lost puppy all the time. He is vindictive, talentless and has "emotional intelligence" according to Rebecca English. In grown up language that means he is super sensitive to all criticism, perceived or real, gets into mad ranting rages of jealousy and just wants wants wants without ever coming up with anything remotely constructive.

In my opinion, she is ditching h him now, and infact she failed so spectacularly so fast because she realishe had hitched her wagon to a black holes instead of a rising star.
@Sandie, thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about that angle, which makes sense. I've never really been one to follow "celebrity" (for example I've liked my favourite band since the early '90's, collected everything I can that they've released, paid for VIP soundcheck access when I go to their gigs, can quote just about any song they've written; and I still don't know that many personal details about the band members themselves - that's the level of interest I normally have in "celebrity"), so this is really out of character for me to be so interested this much detail and I often don't get all of the peripheral stuff immediately and tend to have "ooh of course!" moments when posters on here have extra information on the "behind the scenes" stuff like PR and journalists etc. Hubby is always giving me bemused looks when I ask him if he wants to know the latest on the saga, I think he thinks I'm having a midlife crisis lol

@Miggy, I hate hate hate adverts, I normally stop bothering to visit websites if they want me to turn adblocker off so I've just been using the "pause" function whenever a DM article was linked that I wanted to look at, mainly so I didn't have to remember to put it back on when I was finished. The first time the DM didn't tell me to turn it off, I thought "oh, bonus" and didn't think too much about it, but now it's been a few days without a sign of them telling me I can't read unless I turn it off so I'd started wondering whether there was something else behind it, or if I was the only one it was affecting.

In other news, I was reading an article saying Heathrow has diverted some planes to allow for a plane to land that has "a security incident on board", my first thought was "is she back already"? :OP (I know it won't be her, but I can just imagine her making enough of a scene on the plane to cause this sort of havoc before she even lands if she has to come back to the UK)
Magatha Mistie said…
@Elle. Sod the money. No cleaning, washing, Ironing ever again would be enough for me. Herefordshire is in England, very close to the Welsh border, I’m sure the Welsh are as pleased as the English that they never moved there. Forensic accountants will unveil all. The disrespect for the Queen has been felt by all, including anti monarchists, & far flung countries with no adherence to Britain.
xxxxx said…
Ad blocker extension called "U block origin" works great with Firefox and Chrome in Windows 10 computers. DM is completely clean with no DM complaining. Unfortunately U Block does not come in the android flavor of Chrome - Firefox.

"Adguard works great with Google Chrome on Android." ---- Internet comment
xxxxx said…
For Android install the Brave browser which has a built in ad blocker. DM runs clean on it. Just tested it. Brave browser comes from a man who headed up Firefox but became a victim of the cancel culture. The loonies got him ousted.
PaisleyGirl said…
@Sandie "Anyone else notice that when she is out and about with Harry and photographers just happen to know where they are, she puts down her head, puts up her hand, acts like she is avoiding being photographed. When she is on her own, she makes sure they get the best angle and makes no attempt to hide whatsoever. Harry is supposed to read everything that is published about him. How come he has not noticed this marked difference in her behaviour and not questioned it? What kind of BS did she spin with him to explain this marked difference?"

My thoughts exactly, Sandie!
Another thing that occurred to me: how is it possible that after Meghan and Harry were married and supposedly living in FrogCott, they were not papped even once? Not driving, not doing grocery shopping, not going to the pub, not visiting friends, not with Archie. In fact, the British press was leaving them alone.
And how is it that they were not papped once during their previous six-week visit to Canada and now Megs is being papped every day? She is calling the paps herself, that's why.
Ava C said…
There's a thread on Gransnet asking if others find Frogmore Cottage the worst thing in all of this. Most on there have responded critically about H&M, basically agreeing, but some have swallowed the Sussex kool-aid, in one case just pasting the Sussex's own online 'justification' as if Holy Writ. Sufficient in itself. I commented as follows:

**** I don't think you can go by the Sussex's rationale, taken from their website (rosecarmel above), which is currently more a unilateral set of demands published online without consultation with the royal family. It is, to say the least, disingenuous. I would also add that Prince Charles, not the Sussex's, paid for the refurbishing/contents, and he will naturally have funded that far more expensively (for his son and his bride) than would have been provided for someone else. You can't justify the expense just by saying it can be used for other people now.

I find the ingratitude of the Sussexes astounding, particularly after more than a decade of austerity. It is of a piece with their self-pity in Africa, surrounded by people who are infinitely worse off. Meghan's reported criticisms this week of the royal family and indeed our country add salt to the wound. However, you are right, it is Frogmore that resonates most. Apart from our families' well-being, the roof over our head is the most important thing in life, for which we work the hardest and sacrifice most. *****
Camper said…
It would appear Samantha has given her opinion again on This Morning, discussed in DM.

She says racism is being used as a tool to side step accountability. She thinks Meghan is totally behind the ‘step-back’ move.

Oh well, let’s see what else develops today. I do know from being the daughter of a narcissist that my mother dropped bombs that were totally beyond reversal. For instance, buying a property at auction without telling my father, so a fait accompli. You may think, that’s not a big deal. It is and was, for many reasons I won’t go into.
xxxxx said…
The ad-blocking Brave browser is also in the Apple apps store for phones and iPad
PaisleyGirl said…
@Ron, @Alice, Surrey James: I agree with you. If Harry flies to Canada next week and they are more or less locked up in this mansion together (with or without the elusive Archie) with no merching opportunities until the six month forensic accounting has taken place, they will drive each other nuts. She will be in a continually bad mood and blame him for everything that went wrong. He will be bored because he can't go anywhere without the paps following him. She will have a hard time dealing with someone as emotionally unstable and quite frankly unintelligent as Harry. I do not envy the nanny and the RPO's who will probably be shouted at a lot.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Ava C I applaud you, beautifully & accurately written. Thank you.
Magatha Mistie said…
Also, British born & bred, I’m horrified at H & M treatment of the Queen. As a Royalist, all my life, it hurts.
SwampWoman said…
I'm wondering how long they will be allowed to stay in that mansion before the owner politely suggests that they remove their royal selves to a budget motel.
QueenWhitby said…
Another Sussex article in Maclean’s:

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/queen-elizabeth-and-prince-charles-should-be-the-only-royals-around-here/

An excerpt:

“Harry and Meghan are popular in Canada, according to polls. But the excitement about them coming to live here overlooks the fact that Harry’s interest in Canada is thin. He’s a nice man, but he has declined every attempt over the past decade to take on Canadian patronages, head up Canadian charities and accept appointments as colonel-in-chief of various Canadian military units, including the Canadian Rangers. His website shows no connection to any specific Canadian patronage or charity or organization. He does not speak French. He has limited—if any—understanding of the country.”

Ouch!

And this:

“There has been breathy talk of appointing him governor general to replace the uncharismatic Julie Payette. It could be done but it would take us backward into our colonial past when members of the royal family and other British grandees came over the Atlantic to represent the sovereign. The optics of replacing a francophone woman and astronaut from Quebec in Rideau Hall with a unilingual British prince and an American movie star are worse than awful.”

Double ouch! (I sincerely hope “movie star” is tongue in cheek).

The death by a thousand cuts is well underway. This is the second less than complimentary Sussex piece in Macleans, the first being an expose on the use of bots by MM.



Fairy Crocodile said…
So, yesterday we came to the conclusion she never met actual women in the shelter. Bingo, today the Mail confirms she only met "administrative" stuff.

Dear Nuttiers, we have spent so long analyzing her we can predict her actions and motives better than any journalist.

Nutty could start a business selling out ideas to the press. With our full blessing. And probably donate the profits to victims of narcissism.
SirStinxAlot said…
The Royal Family can still capitalize on Frogmore cottage. Every year they open Frogmore house which is near the cottage. Also they give tours of Clarence house and castles. Bump up the ticket prices and include frog cottage. Disliked or not people are curious. Make no changes and make money off the disaster that's been created by those spoilt brats. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
Nutty Flavor said…
New post: Here comes Trevor!
xxxxx said…
Looks like the BRF have thrown a wrench into her merching machine. If no-merching-Megs gets into an extended foul mood, Harry might be back in the UK in a matter of weeks. What is there for him to do there in BC?

As far as the BRF being duped or wise to her-Megs right at the start? Charles must have been duped, otherwise spend (squander) (blow) millions on her wardrobe and home furnishings? Charles saw a kindred New Agey spirit. So he spent and spent, the more he spent, the more Megs figured, "I have a big fish on the line. I better reel him in."
Ròn said…
Help required ! Could somebody help me with an issue I'm confused about ( a not unheard of situation...)

Paparazzi v Paps. I know a pap walk is when the celeb alerts the photographer as to their whereabouts. This hardly happened when she was in the UK except I think when they went to a kind of apothecary shop. ( Now she's 'free' we're going to be inundated ). Are paparazzi different?! It seems to me they are the ones who follow the celeb, wait outside their home and chase them down the street, (as they did with Kate) and basically make a nuisance of themselves. This never happened to her in the UK as far as I'm aware - they were left alone for the most part ( which I found odd given that poor Kate was absolutely hounded). The British press, due to their 'agreement' with the RF, won't publish these kind of shots anyway. Will the 'paparazzi' bother them now they're in Canada and not really 'Royal' anymore ? Are there any paparazzi in Canada ? Will Harry find it burdensome as up until now he's been somewhat protected ? They haven't really bothered him since he was a kid falling out of clubs at 2am and face planting on the road. Is there enough interest in them for photographers to bother hanging about ? Or do the 'pap' shots negate the need ? And final question.... what are paparazzi like in LA if they moved over there ? Final, final question- will Harry issuing another statement,if they are bothered,work,given his new non-royal (ish)position? Thank you in advance :)
wastingtime said…
Ok, Tin Hat time....
I have been working the timetable backwards....(we only know what has happen after the event)
The baby shower was the main event or the turning point, everything before wasn't so (can't put my finger on the word)

At the begin of April PW we were told had finished 3 weeks working with MI5, MI6 and GCHQ
quote
The Duke, who will one day be King, has been working with MI5, MI6 and GCHQ in an unprecedented secondment across the three security services, joining their staff full-time to learn more about how they are protecting the country.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2019/04/06/majestys-secret-service-prince-william-spends-three-weeks-undercover/
@HappyDays
@Swamp Woman
A forensic examination also suggests to me that the examiners will be looking for any evidence of financial crime. Am I wrong?

Is this why he was there?
Did the Archie bump have anything to do with it?

I think when they were in SA that was the beginning of the end.......so what happened between feb - oct..........I thought at the time that the tour would be a fresh start for them however i now believe that was their stage to do the interview.

Just a side note
If frog cottage is empty where is PH staying?

I
@PailseyGirl, Another thing that occurred to me: how is it possible that after Meghan and Harry were married and supposedly living in FrogCott, they were not papped even once? Not driving, not doing grocery shopping, not going to the pub, not visiting friends, not with Archie. In fact, the British press was leaving them alone.
And how is it that they were not papped once during their previous six-week visit to Canada and now Megs is being papped every day? She is calling the paps herself, that's why.


That was the reason I automatically assumed she'd had some personal involvement in the photos and didn't consider that they'd legitimately papped her without her permission, although it's hilariously ironic if that's going to happen on a regular basis now after all the fuss that was kicked up about the press while they were being more or less left alone pap-wise.

@Ava C 's phrase, "swallowed the Sussex kool-aid" really struck a note with me when I read it. Someone I've been friends with since I was at school asked me the other day what I thought of the announcement that they want to go their own way and I thought I was being quite reasonable/tactful when I replied with something along the lines of "it's their decision, but I don't agree with how it's been handled as it disrespects the rest of the family, and I feel that keeping their titles and the funding they're expecting will be problematic". The next thing I knew she was in full-on rant mode telling me I was "as bad as the racist RF and the racist press", and all I could do was think "wow, where did that come from?" because she's always been relatively pro-monarchy and tolerant of different views for as long as I've known her (we're on polar opposite sides of the Brexit debate but we've managed to regularly discuss that at length over the last few years without it turning personal, just to put this into perspective). It's like she's turned into a different person more or less overnight, I'm actually feeling gobsmacked over it.

^ if that's too personal for the blog please feel free to delete, I've been back and forth with myself whether to share or not and thought as it's relevant to the discussion and is vague on personal details it should be ok? It's been good to be able to get it off my chest regardless.
punkinseed said…
Nutties, You gotta check out Tumi Yukii Youtube channel!!! She was a sugar for Megs and had 11K followers and gives a tell all of how and why she decided to abdicate from supporting them! Worth the watch!
Magatha Mistie said…
Little madam has brought media war to her doorstep. The Brit press, & others are out for blood. The establishment has spoken, through Rose Astor. The Establishment rule the UK.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Sandie

Re putting women at risk. Depends what she wanted to achieve. If she wanted a publicity stunt somebody explained to her going to the actual shelter is out of the question, because it may expose women to danger.

If she really wanted to see how she can help she would have dropped photographers and media retinue, went, talked and possibly did something, like a fundraising dinner with her rich supporters for the benefit of the shelter.

But this requires work, planning, dedication and support from the team. A lot easier to pretend she cares for the sake of a photograph in the press next day.

I really came to detest her. She is like a greasy froth.
KCM1212 said…
@catereyes
So sorry about your brother. I'm sure you are beside yourself with worry. I hope it's okay, but I'm keeping you both in my prayers.

I am the caretaker for my mother who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's about 10 years ago. Dementia is so hard on those who love.

If you don't mind a wee both of advice...enlist your neighbors for help if they see him out wandering. We had a phone tree set up that actually caught her a couple of times. Also a medical alert bracelet or necklace will help you sleep nights. We got some little tracking devices and put them in her coat pickets, and even tied one to her tennis shoes. Fortunately for us, she always took her purse. Ingrained behavior, I guess.

Please keep us in the loop. You are a brave and loving sister to be willing to take this journey on.

Wanda said…
Magatha Mistie said...
Little madam has brought media war to her doorstep. The Brit press, & others are out for blood.

*************
And I don't blame them - the press and the royal reporters don't deserve this treatment from her. It looks like she has started a campaign against them through her PR trying to blame the British press for chasing her out of the UK. I hope the royal reporters have kept all the evidence of the horrible trolling they endured from MM's sugars.
Sandie said…
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KnitWit said…
Still catching up, but have a few thoughts...

1. Hope Harry's dinner with ghosted friends becomes an intervention. Perhaps he will have such a good time with his buddies that he delays his trip to join his jailer.

2. Meg's next husband will have to be wealthy, famous and thirsty. He would have to offer her more than life as Henry's first wife. Musk would be an option, but bet Amber Herd has even more tricks up her hoo ha than Ms. Markle. Perhaps a studio CEO or high powered agent.

3. I think the plane and the center photos had different boots. The brown boots looked like English riding boots. The black ones had more traction on the soles. She seemed to be wearing two different necklaces in the shelter photos. One was the whale tail, the other a circle.

4. Where in the world is Archie Harrison?
dunnoreally said…
From a poster on Twitter, who's familiar with the women's centre visited by MM. There has been a problem there, described in various articles online - this one is an example - where criticism has been levelled about lack of action taken by the administrators. I wonder if MM was aware. https://www.womenarehuman.com/male-transgender-boasts-of-harassing-women-in-crisis-shelter/
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