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Prince Harry's new project - Score your vacation's environmental impact!

The Telegraph.co.uk has announced new details about Prince Harry's project Travalyst. 
From behind the paywall:
"The Duke of Sussex is to launch an online scoring system to show travellers how eco-friendly their flights are, as he embarks on the first major project of his new working life.
The Duke, who will return to the UK from Canada next week for the event, will share details of a prototype scheme to “bring more transparency around carbon emissions for individual flights” and make holidays as environmentally-friendly as possible.
The Travalyst project, which he unveiled in the summer, will be the first of several engagements in his 12-day visit to the UK, which will include a recording session with musician Jon Bon Jovi.
In a social media post yesterday, in which the Sussexes’ team mocked up a text conversation with Bon Jovi, Prince Harry hinted he would be joining in the singing on a single to benefit the Invictus Games Choir on February 28th.
The Telegraph has learned the Duke will also be travelling to Edinburgh during his trip home, for a day of work with his Travalyst project.

Testing out plans for a scoring system

It will see him welcome around 100 people from the tourist and travel industry in Scotland to a working summit to test out plans for scoring systems across the three themes of accommodation, aviation and travel experiences.
“It’s not telling consumers and people what they should and shouldn’t be doing,” a source said of the project. “We want to create an industry where people’s choices will automatically be better for the planet."
The Duke himself has received painful criticism over the last year for his own flights, and will continue to travel between the UK and North America in the coming months as the Sussexes split their time across continents.
In September, he answered critics over his use of private jets, saying the “unique circumstances” of his family’s safety made it sometimes essential and promising to "balance out the impact that I have" by offsetting the CO2.
"In my mind it's the right thing to do,” he said. “We need to make it cool. It can't just be a ticking-the-box exercise.”
An interesting project - and Duchess Meghan's name is not mentioned at all. 
What do you think of Harry's idea?

Comments

Magatha Mistie said…
@Miggy
Whatever’s going on behind the scenes will be 10X worse !!

Sod the popcorn, I want a pint of beer & 10X packets of crisps, cheese & onion.
Sod the popcorn? Yes, I agree.

Someone in New Scientist observed a little while ago that dogs' feet smell like popcorn.

My view is that popcorn smells like dogs' feet!
Magatha Mistie said…
@Wild Boar
The lady in brown was identified, somewhere? as a Canadian stylist, friend of Meg. Why was she allowed to stand so close, never mind she was heavily pregnant, H&M appeared to pointedly ignore her.
Miggy said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

Apparently dogs sweat through their paws!

My dog's paws really DO stink, (especially during the summer months) but not of popcorn! (not even close) Whoever claimed that needs to meet my little pooch and review their opinion! :)

@Magatha Mistie,

Pink G&T for me with Tex-Mex Nachos dipped in Guacamole on the side... ;-)

Back on topic now - So what do Nutties predict will happen next in the Harkle Debacle?
@Sandie, I agree, it is a crazy world. I think part of it may be because so many people assume that "someone else will sort it" nowadays. It puts me in mind of a parable(?) I was told as a kid, I can't remember the details exactly but it was something about a fountain and people wanted to have the fountain running with wine for a special occasion so it was agreed that each person would donate a cup of wine to spread the cost and make it fair. The problem was that each person thought to themselves "if everyone else is donating a cup of wine, nobody will notice if I donate a cup of water instead", so the end result was a fountain running water. I've never forgotten the overall meaning behind it even if I don't remember all of the specifics of the story.

^ that makes my last post sound hypocritical as I admit to using single use plastic bin liners, but it is one of the very few areas that I do cut corners and I try my best to avoid non-recyclable single use plastics everywhere else, and if I do have to get them I try to find ways to re-use them in an attempt to lessen the impact. For example any bag-like packaging (that won't leak when it's tied up) I put it in my pocket when I'm walking the dog for use as a poop-bag; we also encourage him to go in the garden before a walk and scoop it straight into the poop-composter so we don't have to use a bag at all on most walks, just carry it with us just in case. The ones that aren't suitable for poop-bags I normally use for lining the bottoms of outdoor planters to encourage water retention and avoid needing to water them so often, a layer of stones between the bags and soil is enough to create a slow draining reservoir at the bottom that keeps the soil moist but not waterlogged.

I'm rambling again lol sorry.

@Scandi, sadly it happens with just about everything that's supposed to be "better". I'm of the opinion that you're correct and it's a guilt-trip profit thing, especially after seeing that you pay exactly the same price for the eco friendly bags as we do for the cheapest non-eco friendly ones. One thing that annoys me about the 10p bags is they're called "bags for life", and the supermarket will replace damaged ones for free. I've seen people not even get out of the supermarket before they break on them, yes they get them replaced but they've just used two bags, and one of them is now going to get put straight in the bin after a few minutes use as it's now useless... That's not my definition of a "bag for life".

@Wild Boar Battle-maid, I'm still puzzled over LiB too. I agree that she must have had some kind of permission to be where she was, so close to "internationally protected persons" (or whatever the phrase was they used in their manifesto to justify security funding). Surely if she was there without permission she'd either have been moved along or there would have been some sort of media outrage at "commoners managing to get past security and pose a potential threat to the royals". I've been trying to think of various reasons she could have been standing there and haven't come up with much. I suppose there's a small chance she could have been staff? But then I'd think it's likely she would have been photographed in the background at some point somewhere else, and would a staff member not have been on maternity leave by that point in her pregnancy? It's been over 20 years since I had my kids so I'm unsure about current maternity leave rules.
That'll teach me for not refreshing before I hit publish lol thanks @Magatha, I didn't know she'd been identified. I agree that it does still beg the question as to why she was allowed to stand in that particular spot.
@Sir, ‘They will probably make millions. Billions seems like a stretch for two people with limited skills and no real plan, other than being ex-royals collecting from Bank of Dad.’

I most certainly don’t think they’ll be billions. With their numerous PR disasters and growing unpopularity, at this rate they’ll end up busking on a street corner. 🤔
Teasmade said…
I was out last night and am behind maybe 200 comments, so excuse me if this has been posted:

https://twitter.com/kylieer/status/1231397401556144128/photo/1

The language is a bit coarse, if that bothers you. *I* think it's hilarious.
lizzie said…
According to a 2008 study carried out by the UK Environment Agency (UKEA) the environmental impact of various kinds of shopping bags isn't so clear-cut when the environmental impact of production, distribution, and disposal is taken into account.

While the study doesn't address the inappropriate disposal of bags (in oceans etc) taking into account the environmental costs of the aspects listed above shows the following to have the same impact when used the listed number of times

1. Single use plastic, 2 uses
2. Paper bag 7 uses
3. Polypropylene plastic, 26 uses (common type of grocery store reusable bags)
4. Generic unadorned cotton tote, 327 uses

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/to-tote-or-note-to-tote/498557/
CatEyes said…
There's a new Harry Markle article up.
gloriosa said…
@ Nutties

The Lady in Brown was supposedly identified as Violet von Westholz?? who so say introduced H and M as a blind date, ignoring the fact that H went dumpster diving and brought home the trash. (Soho House). No independent confirmation that she was in fact VvW. Thought that Violet VW gave birth in July 2019/2020? Lady in brown was too far advanced for July 2019 due date or would not have been pregnant if 2020 birth. Violet vW being a friend? of the couple would also surely be allowed to visit them at their place of residence and not have to stand outside a Church service? H & M latest missive removed very promptly from their IG that Lady Kitty Spencer was a Royal who was allowed to work/earn money and was therefore receiving preferential treatment.

`Canadian stylist' and `friend' suggest Jessica Mulroney but I can't see any resemblance to her, or to any of her faces over the last 10 years. I don't attach much significance to LiB having brown eyes and JM blue -contact lenses can work those sort of changes.
No, it's the face-shape and the overall impression of LiB having a naturally attractive face, not one that's been purchased in a surgery.

Can anyone think of any other candidates?

There are 3 videos in all, some repetition.

Harry spotted her, a little surprised perhaps, and automatically almost greeted her warmly until, he checked himself. Meghan also recognised her and gave one of her `smiles'.

This leaves us with the question `Why?'. Why was she there? Who was behind the camera? Why was the photographer so interested in her? Had there been some sort of tip-off?

Was she just sending positive vibes to the `happy couple? Aligning their chakras? Being a focus to divert the Evil Eye from Meghan? Had Meghan paid her just to confuse us further? Was it some sort of fingerprint-free leak from the RF? Kate ignored her in a very studied way, as if she'd expected her and had to pretend she hadn't noticed noticed her.

All very strange - about par for the course.
Madge said…
The Guardian newspaper, the voice of Britain's woke section of the chattering entitled class has published this load of garbage. Not recommended for those of a balanced disposition!

" "You could understand why Meghan Markle, who opted out of royalty this month after a year of being hounded and vilified by a racist, rightwing press could be referred to in some circles as the patron saint of good mental health.

That’s probably why the term “to Meghan Markle” was created this week:

“Meghan Markle, a verb, past tense - Meghan Markled: to value yourself and your mental health enough to up and leave a room/ situation/ environment in which your authentic self is not welcomed or wanted.”

a racist, rightwing press could be referred to in some circles as the patron saint of good mental health." "

That’s probably why the term “to Meghan Markle” was created this week:

“Meghan Markle, a verb, past tense - Meghan Markled: to value yourself and your mental health enough to up and leave a room/ situation/ environment in which your authentic self is not welcomed or wanted.”
SwampWoman said…
I'm currently collecting the plastic throw-away grocery store bags (to my husband's chagrin) to cut up to make plarn (plastic yarn) for crocheting mats for the dogs to sleep on instead of lying on bare concrete on the patios. They will probably drag the plarn mats off into the yard somewhere, worry them to death, then return and sleep on the bare concrete which is what they do to all the mats/rugs/dog beds I placed out there. Since husband is retired and isn't leaving for work every morning and I'm not packing his lunch, I have a LOT more bags available to me. Bwahahahaha. He is threatening to go back to work to get away from the honey-do lists so that he can get some rest.

Seriously, we use those "throw-away" plastic bags for a LOT of things. I keep a collection behind the truck seat in case a grandkid (or the biggest kid of all, me) needs to use them for collecting seashells at the beach, in case wet towels or shoes need to go into something, as a vehicle trash bag, in case I stop at Aldi's or a warehouse-type store that doesn't have bags and I left mine at home, etc. I've used them to make faux finishes with paint. And, yes, I use them as trash can liners for small trash cans.
SwampWoman said…
Madge, I do appreciate those people whose crazy authentic self is neither accepted nor wanted making like a tree and leaving. Don't go away angry, Megs, just go away.

Who am I kidding, I don't care if she's angry or not.
VvW - blue/grey eyes- contact lenses again? Face shape stiff not convincing.

Who on earth wrote that Guardian drivel? It just bears out what I think of contemporary Guardianistas - they don't even look at what's really going on, still less being able to see it. They have a set world view, yet it is us they deem to be reactionaries.

I was a Guardian reader in the 1970s and on the whole I was happy to have my preconceptions challenged in a rational way with the appropriate evidence. The paper did then seem to take an independent, sometimes sideways, view of things that was refreshing.

About 20 years ago, I changed my mind when I worked in a college library and had the chance to see all the broadsheets. It became very clear that the Grauniad, as Private Eye then called it on account of its frequent misprints, had become entrenched, blinkered and with the same old axes to grind over and over again. The Independent is just as bad. So now I go for the Telegraph and the Spectator.

I think the Guardian appeals to those who like to display their self-righteousness. When I was at school, it was still The Manchester Guardian. Fellow pupils whose father's took the Guardian made sure that everyone knew that this was the superior thing to do because one had to wait 24 hours for the paper to come down from the North to the newsagent's in their village.

Oh, I've checked who wrote that uncritical load of horse droppings - one Poppy Noor. Apparently she read Philosophy, Politics and Sociology at Trinity, Cambridge. Ye Gods! What is the University coming to? When I was preparing for my Entrance Exams, my Newnhamite teacher said sternly to me `You have to remember, they're looking for girls who can THINK!!!'
Glow W said…
I’m interested to see how much worse they can do this. What they are scheming now. Where Harry is in all of this. There are definitely in the tempest now, like the old cartoon the Tasmanian devil on Bug’s bunny. They show up with a tornado.

@hunter since you asked: yes, I’m in New Orleans. The man who died is actually the second person in three days who died getting rolled over by a float in a parade. A woman was rolled over on Wednesday night as well. They were both rolled over by tandem floats (instead of one tractor pulling one float, it is one tractor pulling multiple parts). The woman on Wednesday was trying to cut in between the trailer hitching the two sections and she fell. The parade was stopped at that float and the rest of fhe parade cancelled. The police had to do an investigation. The man last night, according to eyewitnesses, was pushed by another person in a competition for beads, and it happened in front of his family. The parade was stopped at that float and same thing as before, parade cancelled and investigation.

It was absolutely packed with the crowd 15 people deep the entire route yesterday as it was a gorgeous day. Crazy crowds and a large amount of drunks. After the cancellations, everyone went to the French quarter. We went back to the place where we are staying. Today we will be out all day and I networked and found friends who are staying at an old New Orleans home on the route with a balcony, so we are going there today since it will be safer.

Haters gonna hate that I wrote that all out.

Getting back to HAMS, once again I am disappointed in them and their actions. It’s such chaos, much of it completely unnecessary. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....
Miggy said…
The Queen looks so stressed in these photo's today. :(

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8034761/The-Queen-caught-having-snooze-arrives-Church-Service.html

CookieShark said…
I feel badly for Harry, maybe I shouldn't but I feel like he's not aware of all he has thrown away for no reason. I picture himself sitting alone in the borrowed mansion, missing his family and the traditions. In the next room, MM fumes and looks for lifestyle tips, clinging to the idea she is 23 and knows what 23 year olds like.

How they have annihilated their legacy. I think her pathology dictates she does not wait and reflect, which is why she hated the idea of the 12 month review. This is someone so material there are photos of her posing with free celebrity swag. She has no concept of how the rest of us must budget and work long hours. She is so selfish, but we are also seeing how spectacularly mean she can be.
KCM1212 said…
@miggy
Love the new avi!



Somebody (my apologies I can't find it now to credit you) said MM should make `like a tree and leave'.

Is there a whole lot of this kinds of phrase? My husband came back from US with `make like a cowpat and hit the trail'.

It's rather like those old Jack the Kipper jokes. `What's...' as in `What's brown, smelly and comes out of cows*?'

Ans: The Isle of Wight ferry.

Shame it doesn't work written down - Cowes is the point of departure of the ferry back to the mainland.
KCM1212 said…
@swampwoman
A group I'm a member of makes plarn mats for the homeless.

@kitties Violets bio says "no children". Which would be true if she was a surrogate. But wouldn't Harry and Meghan have said "hello"? She's a childhood pal of Harrys.

How they figured out she looked like The woman in the apothecary is amazing.

@Madge lol, somebody hates that "markled" is a verb and is trying to change it. That's so fetch, Megsy

Prepare to have your breath taken away by sheer audacity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/entertainment.html/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-threaten-legal-action-over-paparazzi-photos-of-her-hiking-with-archie-212054053.html

They are threatening to sue any British papers that print that pic of her with the dead frog & the dogs taken on that set-up walk in N Saanich. She's trying to stop the British public from knowing what we know.

Publish and be damned, say I!
Miggy said…
@KCM1212,

Thanks!

There's a rumour that Spitting Image may come back to our screens and this was a picture of the H&M puppets that appeared in the press release.

There is so much juicy material re the Harkles, that I'm hoping it's true! :)
Spitting Image? The Beeb said in Sept. that it would be coming back

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49865406

Should be fun - we'll hear her screams halfway across the world.
Miggy said…
Ha ha @ Wild Boar Battle-maid.


Should be fun - we'll hear her screams halfway across the world.

We will indeed. :)
@Miggy,’There's a rumour that Spitting Image may come back to our screens and this was a picture of the H&M puppets that appeared in the press release.

There is so much juicy material re the Harkles, that I'm hoping it's true! :) ‘

Yes, but even if it does, and I’ve been reading about rumours for a while. It will be nothing like the original, political correctness has annihilated that kind of humour. I can see the headlines now in The Guardian and on the BBC, it will be branded every name in the book by the pro left. 😖
buckyballs said…
Slightly off-topic but completely wonderful.


Found this on Reddit:

If you use Google street view just above Buckingham Palace, the streetview character looks like the Queen

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/f8bpw9/if_you_try_to_use_google_street_view_just_above/


How freakin' cool is The Queen?
Miggy said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle,

It will be nothing like the original, political correctness has annihilated that kind of humour.

I said much the same to friends when I first read about it but I'm trying to stay optimistic!
Miggy said…
@buckyballs,

If you use Google street view just above Buckingham Palace, the streetview character looks like the Queen.

Nice find! :)
OKay said…
Time to change the definition of "Markled" - to "taken advantage of by a scheming, narcissistic sociopath."
Lady Luvgood said…
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Lurking said…
FFS! Markled has never meant what the Guardian is claiming. Revisionist history on their part. Wonder if someone at the Guardian has been offered a sweetener in exchange for positive press.
Lady Luvgood said…

Taking away the Dukedom titles , would make Meghan Princess Henry of Wales. Just like Princess Michael of Kent, who is only addressed as Princess if her husband is present.
The wife shares the title of the Husband, and as Harry was born Prince Henry of Wales, that would be her new title.
She could not be Princess Meghan, as only the born Royal Princesses are addressed that way, as Princess Anne, Beatrice, Eugenie, and Charolette are.
Princess Anne was made the Princess Royal, so she wouldn’t have to curtesy to Diana, unless her brother was present, than his title exceeded hers.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@WildBoar

They have threatened to litigate so many times it is tempting to drag them into as much litigation as physically possible and watch them sink. Especially when paps testify how they got info re whereabouts.

Judging by their idiotic "declaration" following the withdrawal of "royal" they are either drunk, high or both most of the time with nobody of weight and wisdom to guide them.

So yeah, publish the pics as widely as possible. I am waiting for the burger ad as well as her other juicy images to appear in the media too. I bet journalists are sitting on them internally jumping with anticipation, waiting for the go ahead signal.
Comedy? Fings ain't what they used to be.

Wit has disappeared from much of comedy, so-called. PC rules, yet it's OK, for example, to have a go at people for having been to independent schools, as if they had any choice in the matter. I get that one, even though I was a Council School Kid all the way through - stereotyping by accent.

A friend has remarked that we live in humour-free times. What happened to irony?

Never mind, no matter how weak, lily-livered and toothless Spitting Image may prove to be, we all know somebody who'll take it very badly.
Vince said…
That new Harry Markle post is outstanding and devastating. The phrase "psychotic drama llamas" is amazing in describing the duo.

The Guardian piece trying to save Meg is par for the course. As I've said previously, the global left (of which the Guardian is part) views Meg as a useful pawn. Thus, they will continue to try to save her and prop her up. The problem for them is that the value of Meg as an asset is dropping by the second.

The Harkles are turning into some version of the old Godfather character Fredo Corleone. Kind of a disgrace and embarrassment to the family that everyone wishes would go away. Hunter Biden is a more modern example of this phenomenon. An entity which is just a drag on the larger family or unit which it is a part of.

That's the real problem here for the Harkles, for their would-be celebrity and rich benefactors. Rather than being cool, hip, the "modernizers of the royal family" and so forth, they are instead becoming the crazy aunt and uncle you want to distance yourself from. And this public battle and pettiness towards the Queen is only hastening the process.

If things continue on this path, my guess is you will see more Harkle team-ups with middling celebrities like JLo and Alex Rodriguez and fewer instances of the real power players wanting to associate with them. Why would anyone want to attach their name to two nobodies who could, at any moment, go to full war with Buckingham Palace? There's no upside.
hunter said…
@tatty - holy crap that's unfortunate about the parade deaths, you'd think they would be used to the melee of a parade by now.

@Vince - excellent point - Rather than being cool, hip, the "modernizers of the royal family" and so forth, they are instead becoming the crazy aunt and uncle you want to distance yourself from. And this public battle and pettiness towards the Queen is only hastening the process.

Totally agree, they are making themselves look worse and worse. That statement on their site was the best.
Vince said…
@hunter

Agreed. And I welcome each new misstep by the Harkles. We want more!

As I've said before, if I did not know better, I would think that the Queen just waited until now to walk them into this PR trap. And they fell right into it, as always.

Meg is a person whose buttons are easy to push. It's not hard to take her from "level 1" to "level 1000 psycho" in a short period of time. It's a huge weakness, and one that I hope the palace will continue to exploit. Any goodwill or uplift from Megxit is evaporating rapidly.
CatEyes said…
@Cookies Shark said:

>>>I feel badly for Harry, maybe I shouldn't but I feel like he's not aware of all he has thrown away for no reason.<<<

When I try to understand how could Harry do such a thing, openly bemoaning his life, aiding and abetting the terrible actions of his wife, renouncing his royal duties, etc...I can only think he has some pathology of mental illness (not just depression) or a personality disorder (don't care to read the DSM to figure it out) because what normal well adjusted person would do what he has done?

I can struggle to feel a little sympathy because he is such a pathetic individual, but he is not brain dead so he has made his choices no matter how disaffected he is. Much like, killers who are responsible for their crimes regardless of their childhood trauma. He had the means to get help, he had a loving relationship (or so I thought) with a father and brother who would have given him good counsel, loyal friends who would have listened but he hitched his wagon to Meghan and that sent him headlong down a disastrous path.

We can pity Harry, but pity never has helped anyone. We rightfully are outraged at his actions but obviously we are powerless to influence things or maybe we're not! I am a believer in sending letters to voice my opinion and it is effective in American politician's lives. I once had the occasion to call a politician office and inquired of the staff-person about whether they read the letters; and she said a resounding "Yes".

So I am going to write letters (for Americans. it only costs $1.05 to send a first class postage letter to the UK (or even the Ukraine lol). I wrote to the Queen about 8 months ago,politely informing her, how I was disappointed in Meghan performance in royal duties. Now I think the time is to send letters to Harebrain and Meglomania. To give a voice to us who are so disgusted with these Dastardly Duo. Simply but emphatically tell them what we think; doesn't need to be long, a page will do. Where to send it to the Canadian mansion, well we can send it to the London address and write "Please Forward" or else send to 'General Delivery' at the main Post office on Vancouver Island (who should take letters when sent for pickup.. I will call the Postmaster week to get the address of the Post Office and tell the official how to best address the letter and report back here with the info. If I get cooperation from the Post Office (ie. confirmation they will accept letters as 'Gen Delivery) I will start a campaign to inform people thru social media.

Can you imagine what the HAMS would think if they receive bags of uncomplimentary letters every day. Big bags and bags of angry letters. Celebrities, and that's what Meg really think they are, celebrities with royal credentials, They depend on popularity and if they see get such a staggering negative response, well that is bound to aggravate Meg and disappoint Harry.

I am tired of reading of their exploits and doing nothing but gripe. Many of you spend a lot of time like I do on this blog and others and write scathing comments that the HAMS won't read. Wouldn't it be better to spend a fraction of that time, and a dollar to send them a letter or two? Even if they don't open (however I suspect they're curiosity will get the best of them and they take a peek or more) it will send a huge message that their Sugars are not doing. We would have personal PR that even the HAMS money can't buy.


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hunter said…
@Vince - "I would think that the Queen just waited until now to walk them into this PR trap."

Hell yes she did and I am loving every second of it. The best part was where the BRF put out a statement only hours after she said "yah huh I can too!" So brilliant.
Vince said…
@hunter

We've waited a long time to get to this point. Now the fun really begins, and I'm here for ALL of it!
hunter said…
YESSSSSS ha ha totally agree.

Y'all should still visit Skippy for details, her anons and repostings are still highly informative - she recently reblogged something that came from LSA showing MM and PH as directors of their Foundation.

I'm loving that LSA is a heavy hitter in this mess too, as a white person it makes me feel like we're seeing racial unity in gossip land and it kinda warms my heart.
Rainy Day said…
Life is good! It’s Sunday morning, I have time for a 2nd cup of coffee, and new Harry Markle and Crowns of Britain posts are up!
Vince said - `the global left (of which the Guardian is part) views Meg as a useful pawn. Thus, they will continue to try to save her and prop her up.'

My apologies, Vince, I'd missed this so I'm glad you said it again.

Earlier on, we'd been wondering about backers. was there anyone behind her, winding her up and pointing her in the right direction ? If so, who and why?

Or has she really `achieved' this all her little self, on her ownio?

If a conspiracy, was it criminal (for cash) or political (globalists seeking to punish/destroy a nation state that had just asserted its independence?

How much was coincidence and how much cock-up (the RF apparently having no wriggle-room right from the start. I read they'd budgeted £37m for the divorce settlement, assuming she didn't accept their attempt to buy her off in the first place. (`Only £37 million? What an insult!')

Is it tied up with the long-term battle between the Maxwell & Murdoch empires? Somebody did mention the Wizard of Oz. Her case against the MoS is going head to head with a Murdoch paper for not censoring unfavourable comments. It's not as if people were saying anything that could be construed as illegal hate speech. This is a free country, with a free press, even if the Left doesn't like it. (Funny how the Left here so often complains that our press is so right wing - not from where I'm standing and I think of myself as just right of centre).

We seem to have travelled in a circle, back to the beginning. I am little the wiser as to whys and wherefore, beyond having all my doubts and anxieties about the woman confirmed.

Certainly reading Poppy Noor and hearing Yasmin Alibai Brown a couple of nights ago underlines what you say Vince. The Left isn't interested in the truth of what's been going on. They shut their eyes to it and spout their usual platitudes because it suits their agenda, the destruction of the Monarchy and the nation state.

As far as they are concerned, MM is just a useful idiot. I hope that she self-destructs before she can do much more damage.

Nice idea, Cats Eyes. We do though need to protect ourselves if she decides to retaliate at a personal level. She more than capable of it.
Lily Love said…
Well at least everyone now knows that Harry is an idiot and a Hypocrite. I actually hope that him and Meg Stay married and fade off into obscurity.
@Miggy, ‘Is Hairy allowed to refer to himself as “PRINCE HENRY”. Yes? ‪until march 31‬? for one year if he “behaves”.? For life as he is a “blood” royal? ‘

Yes, he was born a Prince. He will always be Prince Henry of the United Kingdom, regardless of the bestowed titles, which can be revoked....but as mentioned before, unlikely unless he did something truly, truly awful and unforgivable. 😉
Humor Me said…
Harry Markle's latest - oh wow.

And the digs at B&E, who literally are everything the Sussexes say they want....SMH
hunter said…
Guess what I just spoke with a black Canadian woman about Meghan and the possibility of a surrogate. She is only aware of the surface issues of this saga. She told me black people had actually taken bets on whether or not the child would come out dark because the genetic possibilities are completely 1:1.

As a result she floated the idea (per multiple black people) that Meghan would have used a surrogate to ensure the child would not be black.

This idea blew my mind. We have all supposed she used a surrogate for various lazy reasons but I haven't heard anyone suppose she used one for the express purpose of ensuring the child wouldn't be black. This kinda blew my mind so I wanted to share it with all of you.
hunter said…
@Raspberry Ruffle - totally agree - no matter what he will always be Prince Henry/Harry and that, in its essence, can never be revoked.

That's my humble opinion. Unless maybe he murdered somebody or something.
hunter said…
Even convicted of murder actually I think he would still essentially be Prince Harry.
hunter said…
https://thecrownsofbritain.com/

She is hilarious, the gifs are epic, I strongly recommend.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

This question...

@Miggy, ‘Is Hairy allowed to refer to himself as “PRINCE HENRY”. Yes? ‪until march 31‬? for one year if he “behaves”.? For life as he is a “blood” royal? ‘

I think it came from Mimi. ;-)
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Vince said…
@hunter

Yeah, really happy to see the great stuff at LSA. I go there every day. Definitely full unity and solidarity against the Harkles. People of all backgrounds tend to look down on cheap grifters, particularly when those people themselves come from difficult backgrounds. They know it's unfair what the grifters are doing, and it disrespects people who actually have had it tough, when someone tries to claim a think like 'racism' and they never actually experienced it. It's a slap in the face to those who have dealt with it.

I will check out Skippy. Thanks for the tip!



@Wild Boar

You said it perfectly -- useful idiots. A common tactic for celebrities, particularly for not-in-demand celebrities, is to try to align themselves with the political causes of those people who run the entertainment industry. Thus, maybe you're not a good actress but perhaps you can have utility against whatever political opponent the industry elites dislike. Think Alyssa Milano and Kathy Griffin here. Fringe hanger-ons who feign outrage for attention and profit.

Opposing the 'bad' and championing the 'good' is a way for these minor celebrities to get paid and get attention. This is the Harkles' strategy now. Travel in woke circles, elevate woke causes, and put down people that the wokesters dislike. That's the grift, and they're all in on it.

The leftist/elite media understands who are the good guys in their story. And those people will be protected and rescued when needed. At least for as long as they are useful. Once their usefulness is gone, they'll be dumped. I am reminded of the female comic who made crude jokes about Sarah Sanders (former White House Press Secretary) at an official event. She was protected and celebrated for a period of time. Then her show failed and was cancelled, and she kind of fell off the map and the media stopped talking about her and protecting her.

Once you're not useful any longer, they'll move on to the next quickly.
I had to giggle at this one...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1246063/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-marriage-romance-royal-news

Meghan Markle fury: The ONE thing Prince Harry does which she cannot stand
In the documentary Prince, Son and Heir: Charles at 70, the Duke of Sussex revealed one habit, he is “obsessed” with but which annoys his wife.

Prince Harry said: “He’s a stickler for turning lights off. And that’s now something that I’m obsessed with as well.”

“My wife certainly goes, ‘Well, why turn the lights off? You know, it’s dark.’

“I go, ‘We only need one light. We don’t need, like, six.’”


How ironic that it's Harry who's the one who tries to conserve electric, out of the pair of them I'd assume he's the least likely one who's ever had to worry about a household bill in his entire life. I know there's the environmental side of it, but to be honest in our house the main reason things are turned off is to prevent wasting money, so that's the first reasoning that crossed my mind.

I'm a bit OCD for turning lights off myself, it's become so automatic that if I leave a room I reach for the switch on my way past without thinking, and quite often a voice will pipe up from the darkness... "excuse me?" lol
@Miggy, I think it came from Mimi. ;-) ‘

Huge apologies Miggy and Mimi! Fried brains tonight! 😳😁
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

LOL - I know the feeling! 😉 <(bet that didn't work)
hunter said…
@Vince - Yeah Skippy's blog has a lot of receipts but you have to wade through a LOT of religion posts, cute animals, historical articles (interesting), prayer requests and birthday wishes.

Kinda like searching for clothes at TJMaxx, you have to sort through a lot of crap but there are some bright spots.

Blog is here: https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/
hunter said…
@Lurking With Spoon - I do find the parakeet eyes pretty hilarious.
hunter said…
Vince - also - don't forget Skippy has her version of the truth which is that Prince Harry has been working from the back pocket of the BRF this whole time - she is determined they still aren't together.
hunter said…
Check out this update on Sussex Global Charities and Sussex Global Foundation: https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/post/190987335264/updated-sussex-global-websites-as-23-feb-2020
Miggy said…
@Lurking With Spoon,

I'm a bit OCD for turning lights off myself, it's become so automatic that if I leave a room I reach for the switch on my way past without thinking, and quite often a voice will pipe up from the darkness... "excuse me?" lol

Funny!!

My place lights up like the Blackpool Illuminations when my offspring visit.
I'm like a headless chicken running around and turning them off through gritted teeth!

(For the same reason as your good self.)
Nutty Flavor said…
‪A New Business Plan For Harry And Meghan by @MickiMaynard https://link.medium.com/Vcr9LyGoi4‬

Interesting piece by a business professor analyzing the Sussexes’ abandonment of their foundation plan and their “competitors”.
@KCM1212, thanks for posting the full link, the one Nutty posted took me to an app. 🥴

It was indeed a great article! I liked seeing this....

‘So, that’s a potential bonus — although here, they must be exceedingly careful. All of the Queen’s grandchildren and great-grandchildren remain under her protection.

So, Archie most likely can’t be monetized in coming years. It’s doubtful you’d see him in a Baby Gap ad, without Her Majesty’s express permission, even one in which the proceeds were donated to charity.’

Meghan can’t monetise Archie either as he’s under the Queen’s protection. 🤗

‘Without some clear direction, Harry and Meghan risk being remembered for leaving, not for doing.’

We’re waiting for their next move then! 🙄😜
I am comment #667 lol.

The below astrology website is very liberal, so I'm a bit surprised at the below.
https://star4cast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-less-majesty/


Prince Harry and Meghan – less majesty
22nd February 2020 by Marjorie


The battle Royal within the Windsors is getting tetchy with the Harry/Meghan camp suggesting the Queen doesn’t have jurisdiction over the word Royal when the edict that they have to drop their SussexRoyal branding was handed out. Normally dirty laundry is kept out of sight but it’s clearly not the Hollywood way with whining and puffing from the young couple that others in the family have earned money commercially while retaining their titles. Which is undoubtedly true but in their case was going to be so blatant that it clearly crossed a line that even the family-friendly Queen wasn’t going to accept.

While Meghan will undoubtedly get the blame, Harry should know better, having been brought up to understand the rules and protocols.

His relationship with his father is particularly dire over the next two years – with tr Neptune square the composite Mars for a longish phase of significant disappointment from later this month on and off till late 2021 as well as being opposition the composite Uranus. Tr Pluto is also in a challenging square to the composite Sun this year; and there’s an emotionally upsetting tr Uranus conjunct the composite Moon from July onwards. All of which looks as if it’ll get worse before it gets better.

Harry’s relationship with brother William is also severely stretched through this year with tr Pluto opposition the composite Mercury and tr Uranus square the composite Venus this year, Sun next year and Mars the year after – which again doesn’t look like a rapprochement any time soon.

Harry’s chart looks edgy, nerve-stretched and panicked this year; with tr Saturn moving downwards through his First Quadrant pushing him deeper into unresolved psychological issues and then he picks up heavy duty emotional and negative Solar Arcs in 2022/23.

His relationship chart with Meghan is already running into serious strains. That peculiar composite Moon square Saturn Pluto is under pressure from tr Saturn opposition the composite Moon from the final day of this month, on and off all year; with tr Pluto in a discouraging square to the Saturn from late this month as well, on and off till late 2021, followed by tr Pluto square Pluto in 2021/22 and then opposition Moon in 2022/23.

Her delusional dreams of a multi-billion dollar charity along the lines of the Gates, Obamas, Oprah Winfrey will run into the sand after a year or so when the untitled Royal schtick loses its glister.
ROBERT HARDMAN: Harry and Meghan are being peevish and tin-eared... just who IS advising them?

My fav comment in the DM from the article! 😂🤣😂😳

‘They mainly advise themselves. All one has to do is listen to them to know they're a couple of f ing know-it-all's.’
Magatha Mistie said…
@gloriosa
The Lady in Brown is Talia Brown Thall
hunter said…
Per receipts provided by Skippy's anons, they have revealed Jessica Mulroney's attempt to deflect ownership of The Shoebox Project as bull honkey.

More details here: https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/image/190989709314
Miggy said…
Thank you @Nutty for that excellent article from Micheline Maynard.

She really nailed it!! (Her previous one was good too!)

Someone should forward it to the Harkles. (or maybe not) 😉
pi said…
IIRC wasn't their SR foundation for profit? This would explain why they're dropping it- courtiers found out that this SR initiative was just more grifting on the 'royal' moniker. Could be they were ordered to cease and desist and deep six it. NOW she's talking about a non-profit.
Miggy said…
ROBERT HARDMAN: Harry and Meghan are being peevish and tin-eared... just who IS advising them?

The monarchy in tandem with several 'overseas' governments – including that in Canada where the couple are actually living – do have a jurisdiction over the word 'royal'. That is because the Queen is sovereign of 15 nations other than this one. Any requests for 'royal' designation in Canada, for example, must be sent to the Governor-General's Office at – wait for it – 1 Sussex Drive, Ottawa. LOL!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8035735/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Harry-Meghan-peevish-tin-eared-just-advising-them.html
Piroska said…
@ Hunter and @ Raspberry Ripple re Harry will always be Prince; in 1919 the King by warrant removed the style of HRH and the title of princess from Princess Patricia of Connaught - this admittedly was at her request but it proves that the reigning monarch can remove the style and title. The Sovereign's will and pleasure is all that matters and she can change styles and titles as she pleases

Whitehall, February 25, 1919.
The king has been graciously pleased, by Warrant under His Majesty's Sign Manual, to give and grant unto Her Royal Highness Victoria Patricia Helena Elizabeth, Princess of Great Britain and Ireland, His Royal License and Authority that she may immediately on and from the solemnization of her intended marriage with Alexander Robert Maule Ramsay (commonly called the Honourable Alexander Robert Maule Ramsay), Companion of the Distinguished Service Order, Commander in the Royal Navy, relinquish the style of Princess of Great Britain and Ireland.
And to command that the said Royal Concession and Declaration be recorded in His Majesty's College of Arms.
HappyDays said…
hunter said…
Guess what I just spoke with a black Canadian woman about Meghan and the possibility of a surrogate. She is only aware of the surface issues of this saga. She told me black people had actually taken bets on whether or not the child would come out dark because the genetic possibilities are completely 1:1.

As a result she floated the idea (per multiple black people) that Meghan would have used a surrogate to ensure the child would not be black.

@Hunter
Genetically, Meghan is about 30 to 35 percent black. She is not 50% black, and I’d bet a month’s income on that. She is about one-third African genes, and the rest non-African, most likely European.

Here’s why: American blacks whose ancestry goes back several generations, especially to the days of slavery in America as Doria’s ancestry does, are about 70 to 75% black due to mixing with other groups, mostly European ethnicities, over many years.

So if Archie is actually the result of an egg from Meghan and sperm from Harry, he has at most, about 18% African genes.

Genetically, Meghan is likely mostly european, but she plays both sides of the racial fence. Most of the time she lives as white person, but when she needs it, she is more than happy to pull the black card kept conveniently in her back pocket.

For more info that doesn’t get into a bunch of scientific lingo: See article at The Root by Dr. Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Exactly How ‘Black’ Is Black America?
No Time said…
From Harrymarkle, this is so funny to me anyway;

"As for ’cause driven work’, again, a clumsy word salad attempt to appear to be hard working and conscientious humanitarians that are busy flouting English laws, upsetting elderly family members, sticking up their fingers at the public, demanding what they think they are entitled to, and using Canada as a squatting pad"

IMO their 'statement' reads like an affidavit. We Canadians should not contribute one cent to their security, nor anyone else other than themselves. They should not hold their Commonwealth Youth Embassador, President and VP of Queen's Commonwealth Trust roles etc. either. Or their patronages including military, theatre, women in jeopardy or tiny animals.
Sandie said…
Is Meghan really going to turn up in the UK in March? Is her modus operandi really going to be that her and Harry are victims of unfair treatment, racism, attacks by the media? Can she pull off such a strategy?

In the past, she has turned on/ghosted family and friends, but she has been protected against having to meet them face to face, and the media and public turned on those she ghosted, not her.

For her 'private' meetings she will have secrecy and a wall of security to protect her (ka-ching ... that is going to cost more for the taxpayer). Is that going to be enough for the public appearances?

Will clinging to Harry be protection enough? Will she 'bus in' supporters to cheer her on and scream 'we love you Meghan ... you are our queen' while she sashays into the church or onto the stage?

Her best protection would be for her and Harry to arrive with the Queen or the Cambridges for the CD ceremony (the one occasion when she will have little to no control over when, where and how), but would anyone in the family act as a shield for them? I think they might if they feel sorry for them, but the backlash would be huge.

And will she go off the rails in terms of what she wears (no longer has to even pretend to bow to the rules) or will she go for demure and chic (eek!) or really sock it to the Queen and do a re-wear (we are so poor because you are being so mean to us)?

My experience of narcs is that they would avoid such situations. They would completely believe that they are in the right and are victims, and be defiant about that, but would not even attempt a public outing without a wall of support. She did use to be an actress though, playing the same character for years (we would have to look for micro signs) ...
Anonymous said…
I think it an indication of the profound pathology of Markle (and perhaps Harry) that they didn't vet all of their future plans with the best lawyers Britain could buy. I suppose that would have tipped off the BRF that they were intent on leaving as soon as they said I do, but it is hard to fathom how you plan something of this magnitude without consulting the basic laws governing the monarchy. This truly astounds me. I can only assume that the lawyers told them, nope, not going to fly, and Markle, with her legendary chutzpah, thought they'd ram it through based on her delusional sense of her popularity, and Harry thought that he could persuade his grandmother to agree to their outrageous demands by manipulating her love for him. Otherwise, why would they spend bucketloads of money creating trademarks that are now moot and worthless. Clearly the latest word salad speech was evidence enough that they didn't expect the Queen to put her foot down. I would imagine that completely insulting response to the news that they were forbidden to use Royal in anything they were promoting just upped the tough love factor by a thousand. Markle should have been groveling on her knees. Instead, she issued a furious response that was in direct proportion to the money they were now going to lose because they can't exploit Harry's lineage. I expect the Queen in not amused. I wonder what she will do next to upside them on the OTHER side of their heads.

I've been curious about Markle's word salad (when she's not plagiarizing). And apparently this is one of the classic red flags for the clinically diagnosed narcissist. It's a form of gaslighting. The contradictory statements (so evident in this blast), the circular arguments, the lack of an semantic coherency, etc. are all signs of the narcissist. As the stakes get higher, her mask is crumbling because whether she can admit it or not, the Queen holds all the cards. Her trump card is Harry (No, Archie does NOT exist as they have portrayed him.) Clearly the BRF giving them 12 months leeway to come to their senses is really only giving Harry 12 months to extract himself from this bizarre and pathological situation. I think she is displaying worrisome signs that her rage has now entered the unpredictable. Who in their right mind throws shade at someone as powerful as the Queen when you need to cultivate her approval for just about ANYTHING that affects them. I mean, this is beyond "cutting off you nose to spite your face." We have all seen how jealous, catty, and toxic she can be. The Queen has made her look like the prize fool. How will she exact her revenge?
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Ozmanda said…
Ok random thought - what would be her possibility that Maroney could be the surrogate? It would make sense in a way - the dumbtons would want to have someone they could “control” and for her she probably thought all the media exposure to her business interest would be worth it?

Piroska, ‘in 1919 the King by warrant removed the style of HRH and the title of princess from Princess Patricia of Connaught - this admittedly was at her request but it proves that the reigning monarch can remove the style and title. The Sovereign's will and pleasure is all that matters and she can change styles and titles as she pleases.’

I personally don’t think our current monarch would take that step, and in Princess of Connaught’s case it was as you state requested by the Princess herself (no I haven’t checked). At the most she’d revoke his Ducal title, even his style HRH at an extreme push, if he acted in an abhorrent way. 🥴

I wonder if Harry is already in the UK? The Invictus event is later this week and I imagine there would be some meetings before that event. I'm quite sure he will be flying soon if not already in the UK.

I would like to also think that Harry would visit Prince Phillip and other members of his family. We haven't heard much about Prince Phillips health but I imagine it is fragile and at his age, well anything could happen. It is all rather sad really.

buckyballs said…
@Miggy

"Any requests for 'royal' designation in Canada, for example, must be sent to the Governor-General's Office at – wait for it – 1 Sussex Drive, Ottawa."

Priceless. The jokes just write themselves!
Miggy said…
'They've lost all perspective': Palace insider blasts Prince Harry and Meghan Markle for 'sniping' at Queen over 'Royal' branding - but admit her aides were not 'unduly surprised'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8035719/Theyve-lost-perspective-Palace-insider-blasts-Harry-Meghan-swipe-Queen.html
xxxxx said…
DM

JohnSmith4, London, United Kingdom, 9 hours ago

It's absolutely clear that this pair were scheming and plotting behind the scenes before they dropped the news on the Palace of what they wanted to do, and while they gave some time to 'negotiate', when they were told there were some hard boundaries they didn't like, they thought they would simply make the Big Announcement on 20th January, and that would somehow, force a 1,000 year old institution of State to grovel at some fat-headed z-list has-been trashy soap opera bit-part actress and her besotted albeit dimwitted current husband. In the four weeks since then, they have discovered that indeed, no, temper tantrums don't change traditions and rules of huge institutions, so now they're getting sour. And their hangers-on and Yes People in the United States are doing what they're told so they can continue to bleed this pair dry. Once the money's gone, they'll be back.. a pair of penniless has-beens that nobody wants to know about.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/registration/1579691122165041/JohnSmith4/profile.html
lizzie said…
I don't see how Jessica Mulroney could be the surrogate. Immediately post-wedding she was busily building her GMA career on the back of having been a wedding guest and the mother of kids in the wedding. She's not been off-camera much since then has she? For example, this article was published in March 2019. When would it have been put together? She's certainly not pregnant here:
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a26560058/jessica-mulroney-interview-2019/
Last night I was reading another random book (Patricia Cornwell - Postmortem, the first Kay Scarpetta novel), and in it they were trying to figure out how the serial killer was keeping tabs on the investigation and went into things such as how they'd be unable to resist reading about themselves in the press. This started me thinking how I'd keep tabs on myself if I were a serial killer in 2020 and I came to the conclusion that rather than relying on the press, I'd read any blogs similar to this which discussed the murders because we tend to go into a lot more theory than the press etc and posters on here often guess correctly what's going to happen well before it happens, plus we also post relevant articles from various press and blog sources so it's all collected in one place to read rather than us having to take time to traipse all over the internet individually.

Then I started comparing it with the H&M situation (to clarify, I'm *not* claiming either of them have serial killer tendencies, just in case I'm not putting this across well lol I'm thinking more of the narc qualities a lot of serial killers tend to have) and remembered the times it's been speculated here as to whether they read or not. My overall feeling after my think-fest last night is that they probably are keeping tabs on the blogs and other gossip outlets. My reasoning is that people like me were frustrated with the how the general media was reporting on things and found our way to places like this to try and find out what else was out there that the media maybe wasn't reporting on, so it stands to reason that someone with a vested interest in the situation would probably do the same. I know this has been re-hashed quite a bit, but until now I've been on the fence regarding whether she visits or not, and last night was a bit of a lightbulb moment for me. Hi, Meghan, are you ok?

There was something else I was going to mention but as I was typing that it's totally gone out of my head ~sighs~ I'll post again when (if...) I remember it. I appear to be having a budgie-brain morning.

@Miggy, my 20-something daughter who still lives at home is *always* leaving stuff on, yet on the rare occasions either me or hubby forget she goes into full on lecture mode lol

@Hunter, I think whoever photoshopped it is a genius, it's such a simple change but so effective.
That Robert Hardman dared to compare H&M to Dunkirk is horrifying. Over 68,000 lives lost at Dunkirk and he compares Harry and Meghan to DUNKIRK?
Fairy Crocodile said…
@xxxx
Very acute observation. They will never be short of "advisors" telling them exactly what they want to hear while money lasts. However extraordinarily badly written statement suggests they do not even care to submit their graphomany for proofreading.
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none said…
Regarding the Lady in Brown...

I don't believe she is MM's former stylist Thalia Brown Thall. The LiB appears heavily pregnant. The date of the Commonwealth event she appeared at is March 11, 2019.

Thalia was married on February 21, 2019. She is not pregnant in the wedding pictures.

https://torontolife.com/city/life/real-weddings-inside-fairy-tale-inspired-celebration-king-eddies-crystal-ballroom/

Archie's stated DOB is May 6, 2019.
Portcitygirl said…
Some random thoughts I've had. Who has given MM the idea she is bigger than the Queen? Who did she immediately surround herself with at the wedding? Oprah and Gayle.

Idk if I mentioned this awhile back here, but most have followed the Kobe/Snoop/Gayle saga which curiously enough Rice inserted herself into by saying "they would destroy Snoop" if he didn't back off Gayle. She is BO's right hand man. BO sent the bust of Winston Churchill back to England and started all this white privilege bs, anti colonists crap, you didn't build this, this isn't your land you stole it, etc. All woke word salad.

After the threat, Snoop apologized and today DM has an article with brain dead Jada Pinket Smith giving Snoop a lecture. God I can't stand her.

So seemingly, HAMS has the DC cabal, the US media ( Gayle ) and all of Hollywood on their side with even the dummies at Baftas throwing shade right in the future Monarchs' faces for all the world to see.

In addition, we all know that many powerful men, and women, have links to Epstein. Does no one find it curious that none have been named and shamed like Andrew? All these girls, pictures, and evidence, and Andrew is the only one hounded. It's odd to me. Why is the FBI, many appointed by the previous admin, not going after anyone else?

Most of the the above seem to be supportive of HAMS. Which now, in light of their last insta post denigrating Her Majesty, is incredible. Is this why MM and PH ( a horrible grandson, son, and brother)feel at ease giving the one finger solute to the Queen? Does the cabal consider HM now weak bc of her age? Who set out to destroy Andrew ( Queen's fav) over Epstein and not ONE other big wig smeared? Not one. Why?

All of these people are globalists and have no allegiance to any particular country. They all live behind gates with bodyguards. The only difference between them and the Queen is that she does have allegiance to the church, her people, and her country, including the commonwealth.
Portcitygirl said…
Good vibes Eternal,

After the way Harry has treated PP's wife, son, and other grandson, I would hope that Harry would be shown the door. That is if he can get past the front gate.

Harry should hang his head in shame for his abhorrent behavior towards his family. He won't come back from this.
Jen said…
@Lurking with Spoon, I used to LOVE Patricia Cornwell and would read every Scarpetta book I could get my hands on in middle/high school. She made me want to go in to forensics; sadly, I didn't have the math smarts to pull it off. :)

Portcitygirl, interesting theory. I agree that it's suspicious that an even bigger Epstein friend and associate, Bill Clinton, isn't being talked about any more. I do wonder why Andrew is getting hounded more for something he did that wasn't even illegal, just unethical and immoral. This all goes back to the theory that MM has a backer; someone powerful and wealthy. If that were the case though, wouldn't they have gone with someone who was a better actress and who wouldn't have become public enemy #1 so quickly within the UK?
@Portcitygirl, didn't Ricky Gervais say something like "they're coming for you" in relation to "Epstein associates" during his awesome anti-woke speech a while back? I'll have to go find it and re-watch/listen to be sure but I remember wondering at the time whether he actually suspects something is in motion behind the scenes or was just making a dig. I also find it a bit weird that everyone's gunning for Andrew while skating over anyone else who may be involved, I seem to remember a handful of people being mentioned in relation to it occasionally but the stories always seem to fizzle out and nothing seems to get followed up like they do with Andrew.

@Jen, I remember Clinton being mentioned but it kind of went quiet fairly quickly.

I've read quite a few of the Scarpetta books too, this is a "20th anniversary platinum edition" of Postmortem that I found on my local post office's charity book stall when I was having a nosey the other day, it has an additional piece at the back which gives an interesting background for the novel. I also picked up a Kathy Reichs (Speaking In Bones), another author I enjoy who deals with forensics.
^ forgot to mention, I used to want to be an undertaker lol
Portcitygirl said…
@Jen

Good question. However, what if "they" were the ones expediting this?
Portcitygirl said…
@Lurking With Spoon,

I didn't remember Gervais saying that but wow if he did. Surely something will come of it. It is shocking to me that our rulers are above the fray but not the Queen's son.

Also, HRC visited MM after Archie's birth. Was that before or after they lowered the boom on Andrew.

These nefarious people surely stick together.
hunter said…
@HappyDays - yes I Meghan is perhaps 35% African at most but this woman told me that genes are really unpredictable and there is no guarantee the baby would reflect a 35% African heritage +100% caucasian - she said indeed it was entirely POSSIBLE the child could come out looking just like Doria.

She was quite emphatic there is no telling and would have been a risk.
hunter said…
"Hi, Meghan, are you ok?"

Ha ha ha - she definitely reads Skippy as Skippy has caught her out between IP addresses and some other stuff. Not sure if she has found Nutty yet.
It was Ronan Farrow who was supposedly "coming for them". Investigative links with both Weinstein and Epstein according to Wiki, although I admit I've not looked further than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg

^ 1:40 onwards
@Portcitygirl,

Yes, I agree. Harry has treated his family with such contempt. It is sad but perhaps there is still a sliver of hope that he may see the light one day. MM cares not a jot for her own family so it is no surprise how she's treated Harry's family.

Somewhere Samantha must feel vindicated. The media really went all out after her and called her mad, much like Cassandra. And Like Cassandra she was desperately trying to warn everyone - all to no avail.
Jen said…
@Hunter, I wonder why it would have been such a risk? Wouldn't having a dark-skinned royal baby have been a boon for MM? She could have milked that for years and years...plus, she could easily have used the "racist white colonist blah blah blah" if they didn't give Archie a title, etc. Lost opportunity there...maybe that'll be baby number 2?
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xxxxx said…
HappyDays said...
Genetically, Meghan is about 30 to 35 percent black. She is not 50% black, and I’d bet a month’s income on that. She is about one-third African genes, and the rest non-African, most likely European.

Here’s why: American blacks whose ancestry goes back several generations, especially to the days of slavery in America as Doria’s ancestry does, are about 70 to 75% black due to mixing with other groups, mostly European ethnicities, over many years.


Doria had no "Meghan option" to pass for white. Doria grew up in the Black Community while Megsy grew up white as can be from upper grade school/private schools through college. Megsy has had nothing to do with the black community AT ALL! My guess Doria might be as low as 50% African heritage with the rest being white and Native American. Skip Gates should get her for his program which looks exhaustively into peoples ancestors and does a DNA test.

Certain groups of American blacks have lots of Native American blood. One example is the The Mashantucket Pequot who own Foxwoods mega-casino in Connecticut. Also lots of blacks from Oklahoma have a large Native component.

If Doria is at 50% them Megsy is at 25% African which is more what she looks to me. She can pull her racial chameleon act.
xxxxx said…
Fairy Crocodile said...
Very acute observation. They will never be short of "advisors" telling them exactly what they want to hear while money lasts.

Megs does not get all the blame for her crazy pipe dream scheme to "play" the BRF for fools. Sarah Latham and other American advisers lead her astray, what do they know how the The Firm/Monarchy operates in Great Britain? And as you said, as long as the money is flowing they will keep advising even when they know their advise is worthless. I really think Megs is a bit touched* with her manic phases where she will not be denied by anyone.

*touched as in crayzy
hunter said…
@Jen - you're not wrong but I can't imagine she would actually want that. Hell, she doesn't even want a real child.
xxxxx said…
@hunter
I'm loving that LSA is a heavy hitter in this mess too, as a white person it makes me feel like we're seeing racial unity in gossip land and it kinda warms my heart.

lulzzz.... Black women are very sensitive to each others skin tones going from black to light mocha. Hair manageability too. Probably many of the darker black women (lighter ones too!!) at LSA feel Megsy is trying to put one over on them by glomming onto "blackness" when she has never lived Black. Stealing-seizing on "blackness" to use as her race card against the people of UK and the BRF. That she was driven out of the UK to Canada for racial reasons.

Has Megs ever walked the walk, as in lived Black? The answer is no at LSA, at least on the Megs-Negs mega-thread that is always mentioned here.
Miggy said…
In the latest Town & Country Magazine article, the last paragraph reads:

There is also a quote from the couple, which in the latest version of the website seems to flash up briefly on loading then disappear. It is: “The goal is to focus on what connects us, rather than what divides us.”

I don't want to give their website another click but I'm curious to know if anyone who has viewed it noticed this?

If true - what a bloody cheek!
@Miggy, ‘I don't want to give their website another click but I'm curious to know if anyone who has viewed it noticed this?’

Their own spin! It’s what they’d like people to believe they feel and think, it’s propaganda and nothing less. Despicable pair. 😖
Fairy Crocodile said…
@HappyDays
Don't know about you but I am fed up hearing about her "heritage". Many of us including me have some African blood. I have masai for instance. And yet her unbronzed parts like her legs are whiter than mine, and I am pale and blue eyed. The whole point is treat all people equally and she is too divisive to promote this idea
Anonymous said…
Sigh, regarding Andrew. I have said many times on this blog, because the FBI has targeted Andrew does not mean they are being big meanies. It means that they have enough evidence to support questioning him further. The U.S. Attorney’s office wouldn’t have a vendetta against the QUEEN OF ENGLAND’s SON for no reason. She could shut down that shit pronto. I suggest you read H.D. Tudor’s A Very Royal Narcissist Part 5 ( I believe). This is not about Markle, it’s about Andrew and how he is a classic narcissist. His “business” deals with the Saudi’s call into question his ethics. I find it entirely plausible that they are leaning on Andrew because he is fronting for Maxwell, the mother lode of information about Epstein’s grotesque history of trafficking girls. Andrew has admitted that he is friends with Maxwell. He is on record of leaning on Epstein to settle Fergie’s debts. Someone is secreting Maxwell in a hidey hole, and I suspect that it’s in Britain at Andrew’s behest. I am extremely disappointed in the Queen in this matter. I think the FBI is walking on egg shells here. They have not yet demanded that Maxwell be extradited, and I think they are leaning on Andrew to get him to stop protecting her. She is the KEY to all this.

Also the FBI is not an institution that is composed of appointed individuals. The only person appointed is the Director, which is at the behest of the President. Who has appointed the latest director (hard to remember how many he’s appointed because he keeps firing the ones that don’t do his bidding). The officers work their way through the ranks just like any other law enforcement agency. So the insinuation that they are sweeping under the rug Clinton’s participation is, IMO, not very valid. I’m not saying that it is wrong, I am saying that the FBI Is not pro Clinton. The New York branch of the FBI played a huge role in damaging fatally Hillary’s Presidential campaign. They loathe both Clinton’s. You can be sure that if they had dirt on the Clinton’s, they would leak it.
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Jen said…
@Wizardwench, I personally didn't mention the FBI; my comments reference the fact that people are talking/reporting (media) more about Andrew then others who have been linked to Epstein. It just seems suspicious.

On your theory regarding Andrew and Maxwell, what makes you think he's protecting/hiding her? Further, why would the Queen be involved in that? If Andrew is in fact doing that, why would HMTQ know anything about it?

KCM1212 said…
I'm watching The Windsors on CNN.

The parallels are kind of amazing. Not the least of which is the brother who does his duty against the brother who is consumed by jealousy of him. William will be dealing with Harry s bad decisions throughout his life.

The trip to Germany by the Windsors is such a PR disaster, caused in part by the refusal of the HRH style for Wallis.

The program suggests that David was not pro Hitler per se, but desperate to be recognized as a player on the world stage. And Hitler appealed to his vanity.

The "I'll use Royal if I want" (the neener-neener-neener manifesto) strikes me as the same type of behavior. A lashing out in response to the word "no".

And hopefully, an action they will rue till the end of their days.

Anyone else see David as a potential Narcissist? Once you see it, they are everywhere!
Hikari said…
xxxx,

>>>Megs does not get all the blame for her crazy pipe dream scheme to "play" the BRF for fools. Sarah Latham and other American advisers lead her astray, what do they know how the The Firm/Monarchy operates in Great Britain? And as you said, as long as the money is flowing they will keep advising even when they know their advise is worthless. I really think Megs is a bit touched* with her manic phases where she will not be denied by anyone.<<<

I think rather than 'being led astray', Meg saw the potential for a big money/fame grab as part of the Royal family and that was always her end game. Once she was Harry's wife and a Duchess, and a big media figure due to her novelty, she could spread around more of her 'woke' philosophies and attract the attention of the likes of HRC. Hillary has just been appointed chancellor of some British university (WTF to that) and she and Meg had mutual goals vis-a-vis conquering the UK with their wokeness agenda. Though the end game of the wokeness agenda for either of them is always more money/more profile. HRC is a controlling Narc just like Meg; so is Oprah, when it comes to that. The difference is, love them or hate them, HRC and Oprah have spent decades getting to the top of their respective piles and have the native smarts, gifts and education to have gotten them there . .along with creative truth-telling and obfuscating a lot of their past and activities. But still, nobody really denies that Big O and HRC are smart and articulate women, even if we don't buy what they are selling.

Meg is a certifiable delusional because she really thinks that she's *more* special and more deserving than either of these women--she proposed to grab their level of global influence and wealth in a scant 18 months, not the years and years it takes to become an actual person of influence.

Meg was never going to be happily married to Harry, living in Windsor with the baby and doing Duchessy things according to the family rule book. She glommed onto Oprah and Sarah Latham, but I think the 'leading astray' was from the other way round, actually. Sarah Latham is out of a job now, isn't she, and was made to look like a global incompetent after the Archie Debacle. She isn't incompetent . .she could only do what her boss (Meg) let her do. The incompetence is all Meg's and we are seeing it now, in spectacular Technicolor.

I think Megsy may well be bipolar in addition to the narcissism, but whether manic or more muted, nobody tells Meghan what to do at any time.

I think Oprah will honor the mental health project she started with Harry, which got underway before this recent mess, and she (along with Gayle) may host them for a sit-down interview . . once. O. may be a mood to ask some hardball questions of the couple, seeing how things have unraveled since the wedding. Oprah can absorb any negativity from associating with the Harkles, but even she has been awfully quiet lately. As for all the rest of Meg's celeb friends--George, Amal, Ellen & Portia, Elton John et al . . what do we hear from them? Crickets, is what. The couple went way too far with their attacks on the Queen, to the point where even their former fellow woke cheerleaders are uncomfortable.
Hikari said…
After the most recent tantrum from the Harkles, I say the time has come to abandon any notion of a '12 month review'. Cut them loose now. All the way. Sussex title, gone. Any monies from the Bank of Dad gone. Let them truly find their own way with the millions of dollars which they have of their own. There are 5 weeks left until March 31st. Let it be known that they have until then to hire their own security detail, and that as of April 1st they will be styled 'Prince & Princess Henry Wales'. No HRH. No Duke. No Duchess. No Sussex. Those citizens of that lovely county have suffered enough.

The couple could be offered a one-time only incentive (perhaps another 1-2 months' allowance) if they attend the March events and say a proper goodbye to Harry's aged grandparents. I do not expect to see Meg at anything 'official'. She is a coward. Harry may attend some things alone, and good luck not getting pelted with rotten fruit, Haz.

12 months more to dangle the carrot for good behavior, only to be subject to more abuse? I don't think so. Let's have done with the both of them.
Portcitygirl said…
@Lurking With Spoon

Thank you for the link about Gervais' comment. I will definitely do some digging on there.

I have two points on race.

My SO's an engineer and in the late nineties he was told by a large manufacturing company that they could not promote him because he was hired after a black engineer and they would look racist. This was in the Carolinas. Ironically, under BAME, he could probably now qualify? Who knows how that works.

Also, around the '00-05 time frame, I was teaching at mostly minority/ black middle school in the Carolinas and I had to defuse fights weekly usually due to racism within their own race. If a child had very dark skin, they were shunned by the other students with lighter skin. And there were constant fights over hair, weaves, clothes. I always felt so bad for the darker skinned children that were picked on and bullied and came down hard on this vile behavior every time it came up.

@wizard wench

If you can't see the injustice of this concerning Andrew and none of the other big players, then you and I will have to disagree on this. It is very much in our elite's favor to "hide" Maxwell. It is all very suspect. In the last few years it has come to light in the US that various members of the FBI have been prejudicial against a sitting President. The main reason Clinton didn't win, and that Biden won't either, is due to her shady foundation and their pay to play. These same FBI found nothing wrong in either case.

My guess is the FBI know where Maxwell is and are leaving her alone bc they know she has dirt on powerful people other than Andrew. Why would they smear someone who has been proven guilty of nothing? Much like when Gulianni made a public statement saying that if he is suicided everything he knows about everyone will come to light. Why would he say this? Obviously, he was speaking to someone. To whom?

And God help you if you can look the other way on the Clintons, but you have no problem with the Andrew smear. Sounds very selective on your part to me.

If Nutty wants to delete this I understand, but in the current political atmosphere such as we find ourselves today with Clinton in bed with the whole topic of our daily discussions and musings, I find it exceedingly difficult not to bring up the intricacies of politics as they pertain to the current debacle of the Markles. Afterall, one of the main reasons they are so hated is due to their big fat mouths postulating on every woke tidbit at the table, least of which is them trying to paint a whole race, including HM, as racists, which is totally inaccurate. And as if this in and of itself were not bad enough, these two bumpkins want to make money off of it with their woke word salad speeches!



Portcitygirl said…
@Hikari

"Let's have done with them both."

Amen, and not a moment too soon.
Portcitygirl said…
@wizard wench,

Pertaining to just the FBI, they put this out there.

And I am in no way suggesting the entire agency has been politicized, but with the impeachment trial it certainly looks as if some hirees are partisan.

My question was and is, why just Andrew? That is a very valid and sound question.

Why not put out there that we are and have been questioning everyone ever associated with Epstein and Maxwell? I'm no big fan of Andrew, but this seems excessive to zero in on him when, unless brain dead, we know many other higher ups must know something.
Jen said…
@Portcitygirl, I lived in a big city in NC for many years and worked for the City gov't....I know exactly what you're talking about. SMH.

@Hikari, the only thing we can hope for is that Sarah Latham, while not giving details (NDA dontchaknow) tells higher profile folks just how cray cray Meg is and they steer clear of her.
grumpy_lass said…
Cringing UK person here! Wow, what pure comedy gold these two parasites really are! Seriously, you couldn’t make this stuff up – they couldn’t damage themselves further by any possible means & it’s horribly addictive to watch them implode so publically. Incredibly painful & embarrassing stuff but they seem oblivious, as always.

I think there’s a lot of very ‘British’ behaviour going on here, a lot of ‘stiff upper lip’ thinly veiled. A favourite Brit approach is ‘Give them enough rope & they’ll hang themselves’ – it’s effective, absolutley damning in fact, & there’s never any comeback from the aftermath, ever. Simply sit back & let the baddies in your life do their worst – they start off tentatively just to test what the boundaries actually are, but then gather momentum as they start to genuinely believe that they can get away with anything, & finally go way beyond any sort of acceptable or justifiable behaviour, & then they’re done.
Still on ‘British’ behaviours, I can almost guarantee that these statements are the work of the Malignant – put simply, it’s not British to tantrum or shit-sling in public, especially to your family – we tend to keep our private angst to ourselves if at all possible. To do such a thing as attack your family (& in this case, also the hand that feeds you) using public domain global platforms is considered absolutely & unspeakably repugnant. Not that I’m excusing Dimwit, he’s certainly complicit if just a passive lump quivering in some corner somewhere.

The fact that these two idiots have now shown the world how truly awful, grasping, greedy, petulant & self-entitled they really are whilst simultaneously playing the victim (don’t they realise how tired & unconvincing that really is?!), a couple of issues they seem to have overlooked. Firstly, as other posters have said, who TF would be willing to ‘work’ with them now? Their ‘credentials’ before were non-existent & they appear to have no obvious talents / experience / knowledge / intelligence that can be of any use to anyone or gleaned from less demanding & expensive sources / partners. But hey, if the American elites want to fawn over them, please go ahead – we don’t want them & won’t miss them, but you’ll find yourselves seriously short-changed. Secondly, & this is the biggie I think, is the response of the UK people to yet another embarrassing / humiliating episode. As I’ve said before, I’m a bit ‘meh’ about the RF, as long as they get on quietly with their jobs & don’t embarrass us, I generally don’t give them a second thought, but when it’s seems to be one hideous incident after another, even people like me start to take notice. If Malignant & Dimwit think they’re doing a good job of destabilising & damaging the reputation of the RF & will be able to scoop up any remotely Royalist stragglers, they’re wrong, VERY wrong. Since this complete shitshow began, what has become clear to me is that the Brits are very protective of their Queen & are mortified at this dreadful treatment of her &, by association, the nation itself (we’re all toxic, remember). In this way their ploy has backfired spectacularly, because there seems to be currently a huge unprecedented amount of support & empathy for TQ, as their support dwindles on an hourly basis.

@hikari Yes, we just wish she’d just get on with it & cut these two idiots loose asap, no funding, nothing, but guess she realises they still have a bit of rope left.

As for the upcoming visit to the UK, I gather Malignant is focusing on ‘private’ visits & patronages – well, no surprises there then, poor Hapless left to deal with the baying mob all on his lonesome, again. Personally, I’m really hoping for a very ‘British’ response to either or the pair of them – no flying perishables or jeering - I’m just hoping people will opt for a stony-chilling silence with stone-cold stares – the message would be deafening.
Hikari said…
@KCM

I definitely need to check out "The Windsors".


>>>The program suggests that David was not pro Hitler per se, but desperate to be recognized as a player on the world stage. And Hitler appealed to his vanity.<<<

I can easily believe this. To be a political demagogue/idealist requires more mental energy than I think David was capable of. Does the program insinuate that David colluded with Herr Hitler in the hopes of being re-installed on the throne of a British Vichy-style government after the Luftwaffe pulverized London and with it, the British will to fight on? That was always my take on David encouraging Hitler to step up and keep up the bombing--directly threatening his brother and his brother's family from the safe port of the Bahamas (a gift from Bertie).

>>>The "I'll use Royal if I want" (the neener-neener-neener manifesto) strikes me as the same type of behavior. A lashing out in response to the word "no".<<<

Yep. Though the Harkles overestimate by a pathetic margin their actual importance to the Firm which they have just flounced out of with incredibly bad grace. David was a former monarch, a King for nearly a year, though never officially crowned, and before that, for many years, had been a very popular Prince of Wales. I think David and Harry have very similar temperaments and intellectual abilities . . and vanity. George V knew his eldest boy was not a safe pair of hands, and George's prediction that 'After I am dead, that boy will ruin himself in 12 months'.

It's taken Harry about that long to completely ruin himself, and for all but the last month of that he was *in* the fold, if nominally.

>>>And hopefully, an action they will rue till the end of their days.<<<

If they are allowed to experience the full brunt of the consequences they have chosen, yes. They seem to keep getting all these chances to redeem themselves or cushion the blows of their choices. At this point, even after their unprecedented tantrum against the Queen, they've still got their taxpayer funded security, Duchy allowance, BP offices (for another month), and enough freedom and cash to travel around to Miami and elsewhere. They've got invitations to a number of royal engagements despite not being Royal any more and unless this '12 month review' scheme is abandoned, will have another year to lob spitballs at the Queen from a safe distance while still collecting allowances. And the HRHs and Sussex titles are still theirs, even if they are being held in reserve. There is nothing to prevent them from using those titles socially, even if they 'intend' not to use them for business purposes.

You can bet your booty that they will try. They are smarting now, but Meg regroups fast. She's used to being slapped down like a roach, but it never kills her. She just redoubles her efforts.

Hikari said…
>>>Anyone else see David as a potential Narcissist? Once you see it, they are everywhere!<<

I think a Royal upbringing, where one is bowed and scraped to and showered with accolades and luxuries and deference, down to having a staff member to wipe the royal arse and dress one tends to breed narcissism. It's a hothouse of entitlement bestowed for nothing more than being born to the 'right' people, irrespective of merit.

I do believe it's possible to grow character in this environment but it's an uphill climb, because it's made so easy for one to grow up without any. Harry is the proof. Thank God William is the steady one. Like David and Charles, he could have turned into a right royal tosser as the heir. I think William's exposure to 'normal' life, through university and the Middleton family was his saving grace. Also his mother helped him develop character, though perhaps not in the way she intended. It was all well and good to take her boys to touch lepers and AIDs patients and make them stand on line with the plebs at McDonald's, but I think even more than these, what grew William's character was being forced into the role of mediator/confessor during his parents' divorce, and then finding in Catherine, a woman from stable family who could help him grow into a responsible man.

Harry never applied himself to developing character on his own, and he does not have a wife interested in helping him be a better man. She likes him just the way he is, dumb and malleable.

Harry is a Beta narcissist, and I think the same was true of David. Both selfish and self-centered and hedonistic; not interested in anything 'work' or 'boring'. But lacking the initiative to jump ship for 'world domination' on their own. Had Wallis's status allowed them to marry in the Church of England and posed no threat to his crown, I think David would have stayed put. He would have been a crummy king, though and might have bailed at some later time. Both David and Wallis did live to regret their choices, but they stayed married and lived to be old. I don't think either will necessarily be true of the Harkles. The fast track to nowhere burns out quickly. Frankly I think Harry has a drug OD waiting in his future. If he was that 'fragile' to have threatened/attempted suicide a number of times in the past, when he was in the fold as a royal, I think it's only a matter of time now. How long? Who can say. I give him 5 years, max. Could be sooner. Meg will leave without a backward glance and I think that will be the end of Haz, even if it takes a while to kick in. How can he ever hold his head up in his birth country or birth family again? Even if they are prepared to take him back, I don't think he will be able to.
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Portcitygirl said…
@Jen

Thank you. I've been SMH, too. Lol. Time will tell if these two are just dumb airheaded narcs, which is bad enough, or if they are puppets to some PTB to bring about the downfall of the Monarchy. May well be both.
Portcitygirl said…
@Cateyes

Well someone has to say it! We Still have freedom of speech, so far, in the US even though many voices are silenced through shadow banning and outright banning on many sites if they aren't leftie lovies.
Hikari said…
@Jen

>>>@Hikari, the only thing we can hope for is that Sarah Latham, while not giving details (NDA dontchaknow) tells higher profile folks just how cray cray Meg is and they steer clear of her.<<<

Oh, I'm sure Meg's mental state (and Harry's to a lesser degree, but I'm sure that Meg was the one mostly giving orders to staff and the reason for the high staff turnover, is the subject of plenty of tea being spilled on the hush-hush grapevine. I don't know if HRC has any use or regard for Sara Latham any more--I believe that HRC is also a malignant Narc and in her eyes, Latham, her campaign manager, would have been blamed for Hills' failure to win POTUS. Maybe.

HRC did come very close to winning, though. If Sara L. could manage a national Presidential campaign, I think she was more than capable of sending out a birth announcement. That Archie SNAFU was all Meghan, and that was obvious at the time. Unless we really believe that the entire Internet crashed *at the precise moment* Sara hit 'Send' on her press release to the media . . and only one or two outlets got any word for what, 8 hours? So transparently manipulative.

I don't necessarily believe all the noise MM is making about collaborating with HRC or 'running for President' (don't make me larf!) . . Meg's ability to get up into that echelon consisted of crashing a book signing Mrs. Obama was doing, and pretending to have lunch with Michelle while she emailed and ate chicken tacos at home. Would somebody like Hillary really have the time of day for a useless dilettante like Meg, the Never Ending Drama Queen? I strenuously doubt it. Even though Meg wants us to believe that she and Hillary are so tight, Hills came to Frogmore and gave Archie a bottle while chatting about climate change and the male-dominated political landscape with his mum. What. Evs.

If Sara and HRC are on good terms and HRC essentially lent out her staffer to Megs for whatever reason, only to make SL look a fool on the world stage, and by extension, HRC, who after all had hired this 'dowdy incompentent' as her campaign manager . . .I don't think Meg really has that warm a welcome forthcoming from HRC. The surest way for Megs to take herself down is to run afoul of a more powerful Narc than she. HRC fits that bill. Oprah, too. Meg doesn't have any real power. She's just getting a lot of attention in our selfie media culture that rewards bad behavior with coverage. A complicit media and a complicit marriage family who have been too soft on her as well as giving her a global platform for her misbehavior to play out on is what's gotten her to where she is. If Megs was a truly powerful Narc, she would have gotten somewhere in show business instead of grifting at the lowest rungs for 15+ years before Harry blundered into her path.
Animal Lover said…
@Hikari

She glommed onto Oprah and Sarah Latham, but I think the 'leading astray' was from the other way round, actually. Sarah Latham is out of a job now, isn't she, and was made to look like a global incompetent after the Archie Debacle. She isn't incompetent . .she could only do what her boss (Meg) let her do. The incompetence is all Meg's and we are seeing it now, in spectacular Technicolor.

Agree with you.I recall reading more than once that M was making her own decisions with her SS team and not including her BP staff. Maybe Sara Latham was too logical and professional.

@XXXXX

lulzzz.... Black women are very sensitive to each others skin tones going from black to light mocha. Hair manageability too. Probably many of the darker black women (lighter ones too!!) at LSA feel Megsy is trying to put one over on them by glomming onto "blackness" when she has never lived Black. Stealing-seizing on "blackness" to use as her race card against the people of UK and the BRF. That she was driven out of the UK to Canada for racial reasons.

Has Megs ever walked the walk, as in lived Black? The answer is no at LSA, at least on the Megs-Negs mega-thread that is always mentioned here.

As I said earlier I've been reading LSA for over 10 years. This issue with M sometimes comes up on other threads where bloggers point out she's white adjacent { which is defined by the Urban Dictionary as someone technically a minority who benefits from white privilege do to their appearance).

In all my years of reading LSA, MM was never mentioned until she got with Harry.
Anonymous said…
@porchcitygirl concerning Andrew and none of the other big players...

If Bill Clinton or ANY of the other "big" players are guilty of participating in these RAPES, then they deserved to be locked up. My point is, and you seem to be actually agreeing with me, is that the elites are hiding Maxwell. Yes, they are, and it's called the BRF. NO ONE has more investment in keeping that woman hidden than the BRF.

Everyone keeps saying Andrew's not guilty. How do you know? There hasn't been a trial. If it were anything other situation, say, Andrew was in the vicinity where a robbery was committed; then we would expect him to answer questions. Say, Andrew, you were at a party where young girls were being handed out like party favors. This is a CRIME scene. What did you see? Is this any different? And a decorated police officer has just claimed that Andrew was not down at his country estate (as he claims) the night when Guiffre contends he had sex with her. He was in London, and was so rude to the police detail that this man remembered it. We have NO knowledge that any men involved have met or not met with the FBI. Maybe all the men of interest have responded to the FBI's request for questioning. We know that Andrew has not. He's even claims that this picture of him with his arm around Guiffre's waist and Maxwell looking on is photo-shopped.

And a little correction: Clinton was up by something like 10 points over Trump in the month before election. The FBI scuttled her campaign by saying that new information regarding her emails had surfaced. This destroyed her (sort of, she received more than 3 million votes compared to Trump, remember?). Per the FBI, these claims were eventually debunked. Regarding pay to play has no relevance here. There was no bombshell about the Clinton Foundation during that time.

I see a man with a long-term history of yachting that Andrew supporters conveniently ignore. We've been accusing Markle of yachting and calling her a prostitute, and yet Andrew gets a free pass on this behavior. Sexist much? It's always about image for them, looking to the PR gurus to cover up damaging episodes. Harry was seen having an orgy in Las Vegas and indulging in Nazi cosplay. His grandmother lived through the Blitz! Response, call the PR gurus. Did they get help for him? I don't know. Today, he's petulant, angry, and suicidal (by his own admission). It would have behooved them to get him serious psychiatric care. The BRF MUST have known about Markle's past. They bowed down to the pressure of not wanting to be perceived of as racist and Harry's demands, and now there will be hell to pay. Do you honestly think she's not to going spill the dirt on them if they go nuclear on her? She might even tell about Andrew's yachting exploits. "I couldn't pay my rent and I naively thought that spending a week on these yachts was nothing more than providing companionship for older men. Then I found out the truth and couldn't escape. Prince Andrew really like the girls wearing braces on their teeth." Or even better: "I had to pretend to be pregnant because the BRF demanded that Harry could only marry me if I could produce heirs. I am infertile and was desperate and so in love." That would actually play very well. Infertility will pull on numerous heart strings. Markle has enough dirt to destroy this family, and if she doesn't, she will make it up and it will stick, especially any shade on Andrew. You don't get the moniker "Randy Andy" by leading the life of a choir boy. The FBI is pressuring Andrew to give up Maxwell. That's why cries of "It's not fair" fall on my deaf ears. They are leaning on him to get to her. Also, I believe Virginia Guiffre.
HappyDays said…
Miggy said…
In the latest Town & Country Magazine article, the last paragraph reads:

There is also a quote from the couple, which in the latest version of the website seems to flash up briefly on loading then disappear. It is: “The goal is to focus on what connects us, rather than what divides us.”

I don't want to give their website another click but I'm curious to know if anyone who has viewed it noticed this?

If true - what a bloody cheek!

@Miggy: You are 100% spot on regarding the cheekiness/hypocrisy of that statement.

For people with narcissistic personality disorder such as Meghan, “divide and conquer” is one of their bedrock behaviors. Causing division via drama often achieved using the narc tactic of triangulation and playing the victim is one of the go-to behaviors of that personality disorder. Besides allowing herself to play the helpless damsel in distress to be “rescued” by the 40-watt prince on the white stallion, it also encourages Harry to buy into the victimhood storyline himself. That is is on the main ways she quickly severed Harry from his family ties, especially with Willam, and influence, which would hinder her agenda to triumphantly return to Hollywood as a bigshot by marriage.

It started with Harry pulling out of the Boxing Day family shoot in December 2017 and snowballed, no, actually avalanched all the way downhill to their present couch-surfing courtesy of an oligarch in Canada.

I do have to admire how quickly Meghan pulled off this grift, right under the noses of the RF, but this is what political correctness, coddling Harry, not requiring a longer courtship (women still have healthy children at 40 and beyond), and not doing a deeper dive into her past behavior via a psychological profile can produce.

Paying attention to the public might also have helped. Many people realized at the engagement interview that she was a profound narcissist.
Nutty Flavor said…
From behind the Daily Beast paywall, from Harry’s old schoolmate Tom Sykes:

Prince Harry and Meghan Go to War With the Royals—and Sabotage Themselves


Divas alert!

As reported by The Daily Beast yesterday, Harry and Meghan are mightily pissed now that they have been told by the queen they can’t use the name “Sussex Royal.”

In their extremely grand announcement, published on Friday evening on their website, the couple claim the royal family and government have no “jurisdiction” over the word “royal” overseas.

Then, having established that they have the perfect right to use the name overseas, and despite all the plans to market themselves—and make lots of money doing so—they go on to say say they “do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020.”

While Meghan and Harry are presumably trying to demonstrate how incredibly conciliatory and reasonable they are being, the actual impression is that they got their asses owned by the palace officials in the negotiations about their future branding.

The whole of the document has an air of grievance and wounded self-assertion about it, including noting that “while there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for the Duke and Duchess a 12-month review period has been put in place.”

This seems to be an entirely unnecessary and rather mean-spirited dig at Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie.

Again: They are PISSED about this.

Harry and Meghan will not start a “foundation” either, the website message notes, but will “develop a new way to effect change and complement the efforts made by so many excellent foundations globally.”

Huh?

The announcement also makes clear how “saddening” it has been to let go of their British staff, and none-too-subtly fingers Prince Charles with the blame, saying the funding used to come from him.

The message also makes clear that they feel entitled to “effective security” to protect them and Archie—referring to “the shared threat and risk level documented specifically over the last few years.”

The announcement, bizarrely, feels the need to underline that Harry remains sixth in line to the throne, and says that the couple will keep their HRH titles but not use them.

While it’s not entirely shocking that baubles such as British titles should continue to draw Harry and Meghan’s eye, the fact that this allegedly forward-looking couple should so overtly reveal their vanity is bizarre, foolish, and damaging.

It’s reminiscent of the nonsensical way Peter Philips made his (soon-to-be-ex) wife Autumn renounce her Catholic faith so he could keep his place in the order of succession, leading to him being widely mocked in society circles as “King Peter.”

Harry and Meghan go on to claim, absurdly, that the public should check their website for “factual information.”

More accurately, we would say, the public should check Harry and Meghan’s website to see whatever news Harry and Meghan see fit to make public about Harry and Meghan. This is called PR, not “facts.” Anyway, “digital channels” will be refreshed to keep everybody informed of the “next exciting phase.”

The tone is very this-is-all-about-us, and sort out that damn lighting. We shall see if their pissed-off tone mutates into something more ugly and public in terms of familial conflict.

However angry they are, it also seems Meghan and Harry are also set on making the best out of the situation.

Jessica Mulroney, one of Meghan’s close friends, registered the charity sussexglobalcharities.com last Wednesday through her own charity, the Mail reported.
KCM1212 said…
@hikari
I can easily believe this. To be a political demagogue/idealist requires more mental energy than I think David was capable of. Does the program insinuate that David colluded with Herr Hitler in the hopes of being re-installed on the throne of a British Vichy-style government after the Luftwaffe pulverized London and with it, the British will to fight on? That was always my take on David encouraging Hitler to step up and keep up the bombing--directly threatening his brother and his brother's family from the safe port of the Bahamas (a gift from Bertie).
~~~~~~

They did go into David hoping to be installed in a Vichy-style government (although I've read that elsewhere). The program says that David insisted on continuing to treat Bertie as a little brother...calling with unsolicited advocating point Bertie no longer took his calls. Hitler says "come visit...we will treat you (and most importantly Wallis) like royalty. They pulled out all the stops, curtsying etc. Which David felt like restored his cachet with Wallis. The Germans had a huge propaganda coup.

One of thing that surprised me was that the King and Queen would visit neighborhoods bombed out by the blitz and get jeered at. The people felt they were being patronized. After BP was bombed, they were cheered. The people. Felt the RF really understood them.

I am really enjoying it!


Portcitygirl said…
@wizard wench

Andrew is innocent until proven guilty as far as I'm concerned.
However, based on a he said she said his life has been destroyed forever. Also, are you a member of the RF? If so, call the FBI today and let them know where Maxwell is. If not, you, nor the rest of us know anything, just speculation. Are you really so naive as to think higher ups in the dem party don't have some skeletons in their closet to hide? Or most politicians for that matter? I get you support Clinton. But like you, I'm entitled to my opinion.

Guthrie was 17 as well and rape? I don't think so. When I was in college there was not one of us that was a virgin and suffice it to say that the boys weren't having to rape anyone or hire girls to sleep with either. Many 17 year olds are sleeping with anyone and everybody all over the world as we speak. Is it gross for a 17 year old to sleep with a 30 something, I think so, but if I were Guthrie partying it up at a sleezy billionaire's house over and over and a prince walked in I might find it flattering if he paid me some attention. In the pic circulating, the only one where Ive seen them together, she looks like the cat with the canary. Maybe this pic was taken before he raped her. We will never know.

Being a HRC supporter it must bother you immensely that she seems so in love with MM. Or are you a fan of MM and I missed it?

If Andrew is guilty by this one pic and his association with Epstein, then so are many other vips. I know Maxwell has thousands of pics to share and so do they.

Guthrie can give it up. If this is all she has then she should be satisfied that she ruined his life and embarrassed his daughters. In my mind, he has well and truly paid for having an unhealthy thirst for 17 year olds. Should have just stuck with porn like all the other dirty birds.
Nutty Flavor said…
Please be kind to each other.
Piroska said…
@wizardgirl Sor how do you feel about Virginia Guiffre's father's failure to wonder why a billionaire was taking such an interest in his 15 yer old daughter an average American teenager with no particular talent? He did meet Epstein and says he was fooled by his normal guy appearance. Also even if he brought himself to believe that Epstein and Maxwell only wanted to help Virginia with her career did he not wondeer why this involved flying her around the world? Do not parents of minor children in the USA have to sign passport applications?
In an interview Virginia said thaat she told Andrew that she was only 17 and was being trafficed by Epstein but gave no details of when she told him this; did it go along these lines? Hello Your Highness Miss Maxwell told me to do for you what I do for Jeffrey before we start I should tell you that I am only 17 and being forced into this because I am a sex slave.

HappyDays said…
Nutty said...
The announcement, bizarrely, feels the need to underline that Harry remains sixth in line to the throne, and says that the couple will keep their HRH titles but not use them.

@Nutty: It truly is odd that for a pair who have done so much whining and moaning about the negatives of royal life, the toxicity of the atmosphere in the RF, the lack of privacy due to being royal, and being mistreated by those meanies in the press and the meanies in the public, that they are scratching and clinging to their titles and styles and any mention of Sussex
with a death grip.

If they truly want to be totally “free,” they need to give up all of it, including the money from Charles and the security and start their own little mom and pop business operation without any hint of the UK, the queen, any member of the RF, Buckingham Palace or anything related to royalty. Get down in the dirt with the rest of us peasants and see if you enjoy your freedom Meghan and 40-Watt.
Hikari said…
@Wizard

>>>I see a man with a long-term history of yachting that Andrew supporters conveniently ignore. We've been accusing Markle of yachting and calling her a prostitute, and yet Andrew gets a free pass on this behavior. Sexist much?<<<

I for one do not give Andrew a free pass for his behavior with underage girls . . but it's that old supply-and-demand economy. It's not called the world's oldest profession for nothing. Epstein was a dirtbag non pareil, as were all his well-heeled friends that patronized his parties, whether on sea or land or were anywhere near the man. They were all complicit by providing the eager market for 'his girls'. I have some difficulty framing V.G.'s claims of being a 'sex slave' completely seriously, though. Yes, these girls were young and they were exploited because they were young, pretty and had vaginas. But by V.G.'s own admission, she was flown around the world first class, wined, dined, given designer clothing and other luxury goods, and received $15,000 for just one sexual encounter. She and her friends had the free will to decline any more sex services if what they were doing was not to their liking. They were *not* abducted at gunpoint and forced aboard these yachts, and then chained to a bedpost and pumped full of heroin to make them docile and then made to service 100 men at a time in this condition, crammed together like rabbits in a cage. That is my visual idea of 'sex slave'.

These young women were lured by the money and the luxury, and they kept coming back again and again for more helpings because after they'd had a taste of this life, working at Burger King for minimum wage wasn't appealing.

They were exploited, and it was a crime. But there are levels of sexual trafficking and human slavery and what Epstein did was by no means the worst. It was fairly luxurious accommodations and perks for his 'slaves'.

>>>It's always about image for them, looking to the PR gurus to cover up damaging episodes. Harry was seen having an orgy in Las Vegas and indulging in Nazi cosplay. His grandmother lived through the Blitz! Response, call the PR gurus. Did they get help for him? I don't know. Today, he's petulant, angry, and suicidal (by his own admission). It would have behooved them to get him serious psychiatric care.<<<

I agree that the kind of money, power and influence the BRF has has allowed them to cover up a lot of skeletons. They must have closets full, and these peccadilloes we are seeing now are only the latest. Gives one pause, it does, to think that even the angelic looking QEII must have been complicit in covering up unsavory business in her time. Goes along with retaining her power . . and her children have kept her hands full over the years. I suppose her forebears had to cover up even worse. What the Queen knows about the Truth about Archie, and when she knew it and what she did about it are items I'm quite interested in.


Piroska said…
Sorry that should read so how do you feel
Portcitygirl said…
This is what I would like to see happen. Putting aside politics and HAMS politically woke opinions and aspirations to slap us all squarely in the face with them, HM included, I would like for HM to strip them wholly and completely of all of their titles. Well, maybe leave the Dumbarse one, and then tell Harry and the world that if he can pull his head out of you know where, and divorce the malignant narc, then and only then, can he have his titles back.

However, I don't think this will happen. I think they will cocoon themselves in Hollywood with the lovies and find a way to merch somehow. It is way underestimated how soon a fool will be parted with money as we know. We have some very very dim bulbs here in the US and a corrupt woke media that will gladly push them forward. There is a reason Gayle, Oprah's mouth, was at the shower. I think they are counting on the fact that they can stir up the under thirty crowd against the outdated racist Monarchy. Of course, more than anything they desire to upstage the Cambridges. Harry is a traitor.
Hikari said…
>>>The BRF MUST have known about Markle's past. They bowed down to the pressure of not wanting to be perceived of as racist and Harry's demands, and now there will be hell to pay. Do you honestly think she's not to going spill the dirt on them if they go nuclear on her? She might even tell about Andrew's yachting exploits. "I couldn't pay my rent and I naively thought that spending a week on these yachts was nothing more than providing companionship for older men. Then I found out the truth and couldn't escape. Prince Andrew really like the girls wearing braces on their teeth."<<<<

The horse was a bit out of the barn by the time Markle arrived en scene. The revelations about Andrew coincided with her arrival in the BRF . . coincidence? . . .but if Markle was involved in that world and entertained men at some of the same parties Andrew attended--perhaps even having carnal knowledge of Uncle Andy herself . .? . . it wouldn't have been in her interest to be the whistleblower on those activities due to the blowback on herself. And that's where the Family went wrong, I think. Yes, one of their own was implicated in consorting with Epstein and his teenage prostitutes--but any personal knowledge Markle had about that makes her anything but white as the driven snow. Ditto any intel she's got on Harry doing drugs or patronizing the yachting parties, etc. How could she know but that she was in those circles, too?

Men that patronize prostitutes are scum . . but it's a two-way transaction it it does not negate the reality that the women are prostitutes. Selling one's body for sex isn't the worst thing she could do, but Markle wants us to believe that she was a graduate from a top school with connections in Hollywood and the diplomatic service. Then there was always the Bank of Thomas, or guys she could date legitimately for support. Saying that she, a whip smart, university educated *hard working* multilingual woman who'd had plum experiences abroad had *no other option* to pay her rent than wh*ring herself doesn't support the narrative of herself as the smartest, greatest woman to ever walk the earth. Some girls are in this predicament and truly have no other options and I will reserve my sympathy for them.

Hikari said…
>>>Or even better: "I had to pretend to be pregnant because the BRF demanded that Harry could only marry me if I could produce heirs. I am infertile and was desperate and so in love." That would actually play very well. Infertility will pull on numerous heart strings.<<<

When the Archie show was first launched, only 5 months into the marriage, this was my first thought, actually. I assumed they were still in love then and it was a legitimate marriage, just not one going to be blessed by natural children due to infertility (his, hers or both). I could understand such desperation . . but a woman who really loved her husband so much to go through with this pantomime for 9 long months would have not made such a exhibitionistic spectacle of herself. She would have not derailed Eugenie's wedding with a very premature 'announcement'. She would have worn tasteful, appropriate clothing, made sure that the bumps she was using were developmentally appropriate and would have done everything in her power to make the ruse seem authentic. She wouldn't have subjected the world to a series of gravity-defying gymnastics in skirts that barely covered her hoo-ha or had bumps that changed sizes three times within the hour. She wouldn't have stroked herself incessantly in public. Markle literally *flaunted* her weird migratory bump in our faces for months and months--it was a Narc dare--See what I'm getting away with? And you can't prove it!! That's why, emboldened when her 'pregnancy' was tacitly accepted as legit by the MSM, she went to further and further heights of ridiculousness to provoke a reaction. She ate it all up, it's what Narcs thrive on.

If she tried to spin a story about poor little broke me, so desperate I had to hook or flaunt a strap-on belly for nearly a year to keep the man I Wuve So MUCHHHH! . . well, at this stage, nobody would buy it.
>>>Markle has enough dirt to destroy this family, and if she doesn't, she will make it up and it will stick, especially any shade on Andrew.<<<

I don't think at this point any of Andrew's depravities would surprise anyone. But your last sentence encapsulates why I think the BRF erred by giving into to this blackmailing grifter in the first place. They gave her everything she demanded for the last two plus years out of fear . . .fear of being called racists; fear of being 'not woke'; fear of being called unkind bullies . . and fear of whatever dirt she claims to have on them.

Hikari said…
They bent over backwards to give her everything and more . . privileges extended to her that were not given to Wiliam or even Charles, certainly not Kate . . a white CoE wedding spectacle. Attendance at Christmas as a fiancee. A private engagement with the Queen only months after her wedding--Kate had to wait *8 years* for that honor and that was after she'd given the Crown three heirs. Unprecedented kindness and inclusivity for the interloper, and this--this current situation--is how she has repaid it.
You can't give into a blackmailer because their word is dung. They will never honor agreements and go away. Nothing is ever enough, because if you've proved you can be rolled once, over little things, they keep coming back to the trough for more and more. Whatever contortions the family has gone through to appease Meg and keep her secrets buried, it's all for naught. I fully expect her to start leaking like a sieve in retaliation for the current demotion. The Queen has ultimately saved herself nothing if Markle starts singing now, and there's really nothing stopping her from doing so. It's her last ace in the hole.

The sticking point is Archie. If the RF counterthreatens to release proof that Archie and the whole pregnancy was a fraud, there would go a lot of Markle's remaining sympathy, I imagine. I think both parties have each other mutually over a barrel, with Harry as the pawn.

All things considered, it would have been better to refuse Markle entrance into the family and taken their medicine at the time. Though their long game is beginning to pay off--Markle's rapacious greed and Narc rage is becoming apparent to the watching world, not just the anti-Markle bloggers. She has ruined her own credibility, and as Elle was fond of saying, their fingerprints are not on her destructioh--just hers and Harry's.
Portcitygirl said…
@Nutty and all,

Sorry sometimes I forget Im not on Reddit where it's a daily bloodfest.

@wizard wench

I apologize if I offended. I will watch the tone for the future.
Animal Lover said…
@Nutty

Thanks for the Daily Beast article since it's behind a paywall. It made me laugh out loud with the foolishness of those two.

Here are the headlines from from Tom Sykes today in the Daily Beast:

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Urged: ‘Be More Gracious’
MAYBE GROW UP?

Andrew's behavior should not be ignored or excused. Jeffry Epstein wasn't the only rich dirty old man Andrew palled around with. He was also at parties in the Caribbean held by
Peter Nygard a 77 year old Canadian billionaire. The NY Post has pictures of Nygard with very young girls in bikinis. Andrew has very questionable morals and has been sloppy in his behavior considering he's a royal thus subject to public scrutiny.

H&M almost appear to be emotionally abusing an older person for financial and other gain.

That is definitely not a good look whatever their intent is and these idiots can't see it.
lizzie said…
@Hikari wrote:

>>>A private engagement with the Queen only months after her wedding--Kate had to wait *8 years* for that honor and that was after she'd given the Crown three heirs.<<<

I must be misunderstanding... Kate did an engagement with The Queen in March 2012 (A visit to Leicester as part of the queen's Diamond Jubilee Tour.) It's true that Prince Philip was also there but to me, that makes it an even bigger deal (or at the very worst, equivalent to going somewhere solo with TQ after PP retired.)

It's true that Kate's 2012 appearance came almost a year after the wedding but W&K were living in Wales at the time.

Generally I agree with you though MM was treated quite well.
none said…
Ladygreyhound has some tweets from a woman complaining that her comment on the Sussex IG asking when they would begin paying for their own security was deleted. And now she is banned from IG. Troubling if true.

She called them Meghan Markle and Henrietta Markle. lol.
Hikari said…
@Lizzie,

I was not counting that engagement, or an appearance Kate made with the Queen as part of the Olympic Games, but rather a special day reserved just for her and the Queen. Catherine visited the University of London with HM, which is not quite as glamorous as what new bride Meg got--a ride on the special royal train to Chester, and I believe it was even an overnight trip. Catherine has not gotten to ride on the royal train. Harry and William have said that they have ridden it only once.

So for Markle to claim (or Harry, on her behalf) that 'nobody in the Firm rolled out the red carpet for Meghan' is just demonstrably wrong.

Of course, Meg demonstrated loudly and clearly at that time that she wasn't up to the job. Looked a mess; refused protocols (HM specifically instructed her to wear a hat). Markle looked slovenly, high, quite frankly, refused directions about where and when to walk and *tried to get in the blooming car before the Queen* Twice.

This one thinks she's better than the Queen, all that stiff upper lip nonsense and the hats and the hose. What bigger indicator of megalomania (droll name, this) do we need?
KCM1212 said…
Aand here comes the sugar train

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/royals/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-are-beginning-to-tell-their-side-of-the-story/ar-BB10ktb1?ocid=AMZN

By Victoria Murphy

I believe this is one of those occasions for which the terms "gobshite" and "bollocks" were coined.

Sandie said…
Quite a poignant article on the DM about Harry's relationship with his grandmother:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8039599/Why-Prince-Harry-risking-precious-bond-BEL-MOONEY-examines-princes-relationship-Queen.html

And then he met a human wrecking ball ...

Her family were very vocal in trying to warn everyone (I would cringe if I had family like that) ... and they were spot-on right.

Anyway, I thought the article is useful (yes, it is sentimental) in highlighting just one aspect of Harry's life that Megsy has ruined (reportedly the Queen just wants them gone now and doesn't want to talk about them anymore).
KCM1212 said…
Btw, another new Harry Markle today
Fairy Crocodile said…
@KCM

Very funny! They did nothing but tell "their side of the story" since the moment they wed. Nobody could shut them up.

The African documentary was epic "telling of the story". I am still nauseous from it.
hunter said…
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Magatha Mistie said…
I’m wondering what Doria makes of Megs latest rant. Is she shocked, embarrassed, or is she complicit in her daughter’s shenanigans?
I’m leaning towards the latter.

@KCM1212
Add Tossers to your list.
lizzie said…
@Hikari,

Definitely agree what we saw of MM on that trip with TQ was awful. Her hair looked atrociously messy (what I look like on a windy beach!), no hat, weird couture dress, walking in front of TQ.... Can't imagine what we didn't see!
KCM1212 said…
@magatha mistie

I lean toward complicit as well.

Tossers!

I worry sometimes that I might not live long enough to get answers to all this mess. It might take years!! 👑👑👑👑
Hikari said…
@Sandie

>>> (reportedly the Queen just wants them gone now and doesn't want to talk about them anymore)<<<<

A sad state of affairs indeed for a 93-year-old woman whose favored grandson has turned his back on her so publicly and sh*t all over their relationship and his family name and responsibilities. I saw the photos of the Queen driving to church in Windsor this past Sunday, and despite bright lipstick and accessories and being impeccably turned out as usual, she looked tired and preoccupied to me, not smiling as she normally does.

Harry has done this.

And what of Philip? We've got scads of photographic evidence that the Duke and Hazza loved joshing around together, with their shared veteran connection and shared bad-boy senses of humor. One thinks that the provocateur and quipster is still inside Philip. The body might have slowed down but the mind is still on point. Will our last image of PP prior to his funeral be of him being driven away from Sandringham so as to avoid seeing the traitorous grandson who took his appointment as Captain General of the Royal Marines and sh*t all over that, too?

You know who Harry reminds me of . . Edmund Pevansie from "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe"--the petulant and envious second-born son, who envies his older brother, Peter, the one with very William-like qualities and his older sister, Susan (the Kate figure), and resents them for always bossing him around and being accomplished at things he is not. Edmund has classic middle child syndrome . . he's the 'Andrew' in position. His younger sister Lucy is cute and spunky and the doted-upon pet of the two eldest. Edmund hasn't found his niche, and instead of working to find what he's good at spends all his time kvetching about how life is not fair. When the kids blunder into Narnia though the wardrobe, it is Edmund's spiteful self-centered sense of injustice that he nurses like a hair shirt which makes him the most susceptible to the wiles of the White Witch, who wins him over with Turkish Delight, only to show him her true, evil nature. (Meg in this piece, though we'd better call her the Bronze Witch). She is an evil sorceress who calls herself Queen of Narnia and plots against the true ruler of Narnia, Aslan (HM). She kills Aslan, or rather, he submits to being killed . . but the story doesn't end there. Edmund eventually repents of his selfishness and treachery and is reinstated.

Can Harry be reinstated? For that to happen he'd have to be truly sorry for all he has done and come back begging forgiveness. I really don't see that happening at this point . . not even over the bodies of his grandparents, sad to say. I could be wrong, and hope I am. St. Paul was a remorseless killer before he had his conversion, so there may yet be hope for Haz. He's not there yet, though and I don't think we've hit the bottom.

JHanoi said…
Every few days the DM posts another article from an insider, or a financial expert, or a PR exec, that says the Harkles could earn 500, 600, million or more in the next few years because of their international appeal to the US and Canada, etc.
Everytime i read those articles i get more annoyed and disgusted by this ridiculous amounts of money and wonder who in their right mind would pay the Harkles anything more than minimum wage.
So i’m now wondering if the DM is just stirring pot with their readers to get them to dislike the Harkles greed, and money grubbing, and obnoxiousness even more. Is the DM just trying to get more public opinion on their side cuse of the lawsuit or to get clicks/ readers?
Do some people really believe the Harkles can make that much mony?
Platypus said…
-Hikari

You’ve hit on a new nickname for the ginger one - Hairshirt Harry!
hunter said…
The new Harry Markle article is a good read indeed.

https://harrymarkle.wordpress.com/2020/02/24/sussex-royal-passive-aggressiveness-at-its-finest/

It's funny as an American reading on our blogs, there are plenty of Brits and Aussies too, certainly Canadians. But only the true Brits speak of throwing rotten vegetables and stuff at carriages as they pass by.

It makes me realize British history/culture is much older than Americans'. It also cracks me up that somewhere in these people's minds is genuinely a part of their brain that's like "well... we could!" that's just wild.

culture. that's just not something I think Americans would think to do. I find it really endearing actually.
hunter said…
Here is a link to a promotional video of Jessica Mulroney's The Shoebox Project.

I'm not gonna lie, it gave me onions in the eyeballs because (again) I am not dead inside. It is actually a very very touching video. Tastefully woke in many ways, I can't say anything bad about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U48E8UcAJ0

Hah ahaha now I want to Rick Roll everybody (no, it's not a rickroll).
KCM1212 said…
@jHAnoi

I have been thinking that those articles are courtesy of Megs, who is trying to get some offers in the price range she feels is adequate. The DM may be using this to underscore their greed, but it's also increasing the calls for them to pay their own security costs.

As is usual what the Sussexes are trying to do and what gets done are different things.

I think the security costs are going to be their biggest headache soon. As they so arrogantly claim, the dopes may be entitled to security, but if they are also entitled to big paydays, they have plenty of their own cash to sign the security checks. Why the Sussexes and their sycophants don't see that is beyond all rational thinking.

So far the security issue has completely enraged the citizens of two countries. They will soon be enraging a third. Even Charles and Gan-Gan must see they have to act decisively. I recognize HMTQ is tired, and I feel for her, but she has to see this through. I honestly think this is her biggest crisis since Diana's death.

Megs is a tyrant, a bully, a blackmailer, a liar and a Narcissist. Nothing less than annihilation will stop her.
KCM1212 said…
@Hunter

Rick Roll!! Now I have the earworm!

KCM1212 said…
@hikari

The Narnian analogy is eerily apt!

hunter said…
@KCM1212 - yes I also think the DM articles are paid placement of some sort.

glad you liked my rickroll, @PortCityGirl isn't the only one who spends time on the bloodfields of reddit
Anonymous said…
@porchcitygirl. We're good, no worries!
JHanoi said…
@KC, very good point. it’s probably paid MM articles.

and i’m also totally sick of her BFF JM. a bit too creepy looking with all those fillers and botox. her freindship with MM has profitble for her, but i wonder if the tide will tur on her too. being associated with a money grubbing, family wrecking, rude, trainwreck can’t be good for her brand.
Anonymous said…
@Piroska I suggest you look at this timeline (https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-life-death-crimes-controversies-timeline_ of Epstein's criminal behavior, which went back to 2005. In every case, he pled to minor infractions of solicitation, even though there were many complaints from UNDERAGE minors. This man was a monster. You are blaming Guiffre's father for not protecting her and others as opposed to laying the blame where it belongs; with Epstein and predators like Prince Andrew. He disgusts me. Using his own daughter as an alibi.

Most of these girls were homeless, kicked out of their homes, had no where to go. Given their age, how much education do you think these girls had? They were ripe for the picking to a disgusting predator like Epstein. What sort of options do you think they had? The current minimum wage in Florida in $8.46/hour. NOW. So do you think these girls could have afforded getting a place to live. Please stop justifying his shitty behavior because they had no morals and were living the "high life." After living on the streets, I would imagine most of them would be grateful for a roof over their head, and three squares/day. And if that meant having sex with pervy old men, well, it was better than eating once a day and finding doorways to shelter yourself when it began to rain. Pictures of these girl show all of them looking to be about 12 (they might not have been twelve but looked very young, and it seemed that the median age was 14), and some still had braces on their teeth for God's sake. In September 2009, there were at least a dozen civil lawsuits filed by women who allege they were molested by Epstein when they were underage. They were GIRLS. They weren't women who had incomes and were interested in living in the lap of luxury. And, based on what I've read, Epstein was extremely intelligent and charming. He had New York society in the palm of his hand for years. Place the blame where it belongs, not on desperate KIDS who are using any means they had to stay warm and dry because they had little education. What choices do you think they had. Really, I'm serious. What choices do you think they had?
Scandi Sanskrit said…


 Sandie said...


Quite a poignant article on the DM about Harry's relationship with his grandmother:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8039599/Why-Prince-Harry-risking-precious-bond-BEL-MOONEY-examines-princes-relationship-Queen.html


Harry your Granny is 93 years old.
That's older than the lady last of my
grandparents when she died (89 and she lived the longest).

Don't be stupid, or you'll regret this for the rest of your life.
Ian's Girl said…
@PortCityGirl, I agree with you 100 percent.

There may have been many girls like the ones @hunter mentions, but there were also plenty of girls from well off families on the east coast who were told they could make several thousands of dollars for a weekend on a private island, with all the parties they could make it to, plenty of liquor and drugs, for giving massages to old men who would probably also want a "happy ending". There were also opportunities to make extra money from the old guys individually. Some of the girls who had been recruited came back to vouch that it was all true.

I can't speak to them being actually imprisoned, because my niece did not take up the offer, so my knowledge of the situation ends at the recruitment tactics. I will say that my first impression when the story broke YEARS ago is that the girls had become regretful, but I didn't believe that they were lulled there under false pretenses about what was going to be involved. Again, this is one story of many and I don't doubt Epstein was a monster who preyed on far more vulnerable girls. There are far, far worse things alleged than a party island with old dudes and teen-aged girls. I do not believe Andrew or Clinton (who I despise with the heat of a thousand suns) had anything to do with that.

I also agree that it's highly suspicious that they have zeroed in on Andrew, given that Clinton is a far bigger fish, and a married man. (Not that I have any illusions about that marriage)

I still don't think Meghan will bail as long as she's got that title, even without the HRH. It's all she has, other than her royal baby. I do think there's a baby and he has both their DNA, but I am also sure it was a surrogate.
Crumpet said…
Hello Nutties!


@Hikari and others...

Speaking of malignant narcissists and their moronic enablers, there was an award winning incredibly dark comedy BBC series, called Nighty Night about 15 years ago. One reason the narcissist in the series was able to manipulate her neighbors around her was because of their fear of not wanting to be rude and following middle class social convention. She played this fear for incredible and destructive personal gain.
Unknown said…
I apologize for going a little OT...

@Scandi Sanskrit Thanks for your comment. I loved your “green” posts. Yes Harry, you really will regret not reconciling with Gan-Gan. Don’t throw it all away to “honor” your wife, when she hasn’t shown an iota of respect for her own family.

I just came back from my Great-Aunt’s Wake and I couldn’t help but get triggered.

P.S. @Trudy Blue I send my deepest condolences to you for your mother’s passing. May you find health and peace wherever you are.

P.P.S. Thank you @Cat Eyes for all the kind thoughts and prayers for my Great-Aunt. May your brother be safe, healthy, and finds his way back to you. I will drop the subject going forward knowing what it does to you. I absolutely enjoy your comments and hope you still feel safe coming here. I especially loved your posts about the environment.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
charade: thank you for your kind words. 💜

What a coincidence, I just got back from my maternal grandmother's funeral too.

So many deaths lately. Literally when we returned to Jakarta, as we entered our neighbourhood, there was a yellow paper flag (the sign of death in Indonesia). A neighbour just passed away.

Sorry about your Great-Aunt.

I mean when your Granny's THAT OLD (like the Queen is 93 or my granny was 89 when she passed) you just appease her, you know what I mean?

They're that age that still remember WWII and the Japanese occupation.

My granny attended Dutch primary school (not fair because she had to marry very young, even younger than Princess Diana if you can imagine! Although my grandpa was only 8 years older) while her brother got to attend uni! Back in the Dutch colonial era, they went all nationalist and HATED the Dutch. My granny would throw rocks at Dutchmen who came on to her.

Now, my family (and all the family friends) know I have a Dutchmen/Englishmen fetish. And I love them tall. But I would never rub the fact that I want to marry Dutch/English in her face.

I don't understand why Harry can't do the same (play nice wity the Queen) at least until the Queen passes.

Just to be clear, I'm not implying the Queen has anything against Americans like my granny hates the Dutch (for understandable reasons, Indonesia was a former Dutch colony and my granny lived through that). I know the Queen lived through Wallis, but wasn't the Queen initially SUPER ACCOMMODATING toward Meghan? So was Charles.

And apologies in advance if I don't respond to anything after this. I need to go to a house two blocks away just to shower 🚿 because my water pump broke! 🙏🏼
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Trudy Blue: I'm sorry for your loss. 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Crumpet said…
@Scandi Sanskit

Sharing your Granny's memories and life is a great way to honor her...what fascinating stories women of that era/WWII have for us to learn from...
Magatha Mistie said…
@KCM1212
I’m not going anywhere till these gobshites stop talking a load of bollocks, pair of tossers!!

As for our Cam Tucker, I’m driving my kids mad posting the Gif of him prancing in his cat suit, love it!!

We’ll be here long after madam has mooched off into the Sunset, Boulevard ��
@hunter,’It's funny as an American reading on our blogs, there are plenty of Brits and Aussies too, certainly Canadians. But only the true Brits speak of throwing rotten vegetables and stuff at carriages as they pass by. ‘

It’s a step up from booing. 😀Throwing bread rolls, eggs or rotten fruit etc., is pretty uncivilised when you think about it. As a protest it would still get you heard though. 🤗
Magatha Mistie said…
@Raspberry Ruffle
Rotten eggs would be perfect, but I prefer turned backs & a slow hand clap, whilst booing!!
There’s no way the British public will pay for this, will the Canucks or Americans’? I don’t think so! 🤫


‘Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's security plans are 'unworkable' as the Met Police is 'severely lacking trained officers' warns ex-protection officer as bill rockets to £20m-a-year.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8040317/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-security-branded-unworkable.html
@Magatha, ‘but I prefer turned backs & a slow hand clap, whilst booing!! ‘

Agree! 😂😁 The police can’t confiscate your hands etc, if you’re just clapping!😆
Sandie said…
Rumour that Harry has boarded a plane in Vancouver and is on his way to Heathrow. No confirmation yet. If so, I hope he has his phone off because Megsy must be sending instructions by the minute!

Security: The costs and logistics is just unworkable, so granny or papa will have to cough up. My recommendation is that they move them onto private security (briefed by Scotland Yard) and give them a time limit before they will have to pay for it themselves.

Do Meghan and Harry have any idea that they are behaving like arrogant entitled twats?
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Crumpet: 🙏🏼💜💜💜💜💜💜
SirStinxAlot said…
Every time I see an article about the security cost and wanting to move to LA I imagine an exchange like this:
Trump "If you want security go back to the UK."
Meghan "But we are internationally protected persons!!"
Trump "Taxpayers said no, referenceing a dispute with Britain in 1776"
Meghan "Don't you know who I am?!?!"
Trump "Yes, I have met many gold digging, social climber, grifters over the years. I am a BILLIONAIRE. Do you know who I am?"
Meghan "I am moving to Canada if you get reelected!!!!"
Trump "Good. You can help Trudeau with his blackface make up. Since you are a pro with the bronzer"
Meghan "Shut up orange man!!!! "
Trump "I am still your president."
SirStinxAlot said...
(fantasy dialogue with Mr Trump)

Beautiful, if only...

I'm ducking out for a bit, thanks to computer problems around Google Chrome. Husband's afraid it might be something to do with MM - I think it's technical rather than her but it might reassure him.

Has anyone had difficulties that can be ascribed to her?

I'll keep reading and wishing I could do more to restore the UK situation.
One last post for the time being:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12305933

Keeping up with the Kardashians?
Nutty Flavor said…
@WildBoarBattleMaid

I haven't had specific problems, but allow me to repeat my previous advice - I think it's a good safety measure to set up an email that you use only for Megxit-related purposes (Gmail makes it easy). For further security, you can choose a rarely-used browser and use it only with this site. Personally, I use the Opera browser, but any browser you rarely use will work fine for the purpose.

Also, as I've mentioned before, EU privacy laws means I cannot see any of your information besides your screen name.
Nutty Flavor said…
Excellent Camilla Tominey piece today in the Telegraph. From behind the paywall:

How the 'Megxit' fallout is pulling royal cousins apart
Royal onlookers were shocked when the Sussexes seemed to single out the York sisters in the latest sharply-worded 'update' on their website

With the allegations concerning the Duke of York’s friendship with convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein hanging over the nuptials like a dark cloud, Princess Beatrice’s wedding was never going to be an easy royal event to plan.

The small matter of how to cram all their nearest and dearest into the ‘cosy’ 150-seat Chapel Royal was already proving difficult enough, but now Beatrice and her fiance Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi face an even bigger conundrum: How to solve a problem like Harry and Meghan?

With acrimony between the newly-exiled Sussexes and the Royal Family having seemingly reached fever pitch over the weekend following the couple’s foot-stamping salvo over the loss of their ‘royal’ status, naturally the bride and groom want to avoid any ill-feeling on May 29.

The Sussexes have been accused of ‘losing all sense of perspective’ after making an extraordinary online swipe at the Queen and other royals in a sharply-worded ‘update’ on their personal website.

In a surprise twist, the lengthy broadside appeared to single out Beatrice and her younger sister Eugenie by making the point that there was a precedent for “other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution,” while they were being subject to a 12-month review period as they seek financial independence in North America.

Eugenie works as a director at an art gallery while Beatrice has a role with a tech company start-up. Although they are both HRHs who occasionally carry out charitable engagements and accompany the Queen to royal events, unlike Harry and Meghan neither have publicly-funded bodyguards.

The thinly-veiled criticism of the cousins has shocked royal watchers – not least because Harry had previously been very close to the York sisters. As children they enjoyed skiing holidays together when their mothers Diana, the Princess of Wales and Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York were chummy during the Eighties and Nineties and this carefree relationship carried on throughout their teen years extending into early adulthood when they were all still finding their way.

(continued)
Nutty Flavor said…
(continued)

Yet, this unexpected outburst suggests that the family rift between the Sussexes and the Windsors is now affecting cousinly bonds that were once so strong.

Although Beatrice and Edoardo's wedding invitations have not yet been sent out, there is no question that Harry and Meghan will be among the tight-knit guest list for the ‘low-key’ ceremony and reception being hosted by the Queen at Buckingham Palace.

Yet with tensions rising, a source close to the happy couple yesterday admitted that while all members of the family had been informed of the date in advance of the formal ‘stiffies’ being posted, there was still uncertainty over the Sussexes’ RSVP.

“Of course Harry and Meghan will be invited but it is up to them whether or not they choose to attend.”

“The trouble with Harry and Meghan is that they think they are bigger than the institution,” said one friend of the Yorks. “It’s such a shame things have turned out like this.”

As with all family disputes, knotted internal politics are at play. If they choose to sidestep the big day, the Sussexes risk being accused of snubbing Beatrice and Edoardo and upsetting the 93-year-old monarch and the Duke of Edinburgh, 98, in the process.

Yet if they accept the invitation, their appearance back in Britain for what could be the first time since they cease to be full-time working royals on March 31, threatens to overshadow the proceedings risking turning the wedding into the ‘Harry and Meghan show”.

To complicate matters further, the Sussexes do have form when it comes to upsetting the House of York over matrimonial matters.

Eugenie was described as ‘hurt’ when Meghan announced her pregnancy to the rest of the Royal Family at her wedding reception - before making the news public the day after the ceremony at St George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle in October 2018.

The bride and her new husband Jack Brooksbank, were also said to be ‘put out’ when Harry turned up alone at the black-tie evening reception at Royal Lodge reserved for closest friends and family, and then only stayed for one drink.

Although the newlyweds appreciated that the Sussexes were flying out to Australia early the following morning for a royal tour, as one pal put it: “ It’s fair to say the relationship is not what it was.”

(continued)
Nutty Flavor said…
(continued)

The bond between all the royal cousins, but particularly Harry and Eugenie had always been strong. Eugenie was once described as sharing a “mischievous streak” with her “partner in crime” Harry - both having reputations in the family for their cheeky sense of humour and propensity to giggle during stuffy state occasions. As well as sharing in the trials and tribulations of living life in the royal spotlight, Beatrice, 31, and Eugenie, 29, who are closer in age to Harry, 35, than William, 38, have also long moved in the same social circles.

It was Eugenie who introduced Harry to Cressida Bonas, his girlfriend before Meghan who he dated for two years from 2012 to 2014. “Cuz” or “Eug” as she is affectionately known to Harry, was also rumoured to be among those who helped him get together with Meghan through mutual friends such as the stylist Misha Nonoo, whose Rome wedding both Beatrice and Eugenie attended along with Harry and Meghan last September.

Eugenie and Jack even stayed with the Sussexes at Meghan’s Toronto home to celebrate Halloween in 2016 and for a while the couples were neighbours at Kensington Palace – Eugenie and Jack living in Ivy Cottage, while Harry and Meghan were a few doors down at Nottingham Cottage.

Yet there have been simmering tensions between the Sussexes and the Yorks ever since Harry and Meghan chose not to invite Sarah, the Duchess of York, to the evening reception of their own Windsor wedding in May 2018. (She wasn’t on the guest list for William and Kate’s 2011 wedding either, a snub which she later said was "hard" because: "I wanted to be there with my girls")

Fergie’s exclusion from Harry and Meghan’s Frogmore House bash came amid hurtful rumours that her nephew secretly suspected that she had been responsible for leaking the story of his relationship with the American actress back in October 2016 - a claim she strenuously denies.

Sarah later hinted that it was the Queen who insisted that she at least be invited to the ceremony at St George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle, saying: “She leads by such example and to include me is a wonderful gesture,” before adding, diplomatically: “I felt honoured and grateful for Harry and Meghan to invite me... It was very kind of them and I think I can’t thank them enough for doing that because it was nerve-wracking but I knew I was ready.”

Yet some of the goodwill was undone when sources close to the former Suits star suggested that she was “horrified” by Andrew’s car crash Newsnight interview last November.

Meghan was said to be particularly put out by the Duke’s description of sex as a “positive act” for men in the BBC interview with Emily Maitlis about his role in the Epstein scandal. Having worked with the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women as an Advocate, it’s fair to say the sorry saga has not sat well with Meghan’s feminist credentials.

(continued)
Nutty Flavor said…
(continued)

The Yorks, meanwhile, insist that Andrew is innocent until proven guilty and should at the very least be able to count on his family’s support.

Behind the scenes, the Sussexes’ shock decision to step down as senior royals and make a new life across the pond has also affected Harry’s relationship with other cousins like Peter Phillips and Zara Tindall, to whom he is also close (although being just a year apart in age, Zara is friendlier with William).

Quite what the cousins make of the Sussexes’ statement also appearing to take a swipe at their mother the Princess Royal remains to be seen. Following reports Anne, renowned as one of the hardest-working royals, is set to take over Harry’s role as Captain General of the Royal Marines, their markedly pointed missive hit back: “The Duke’s official military appointments will not be used as they are in the gift of the Sovereign. No new appointments will be made to fill these roles before the 12-month review of the new arrangements is completed.”

Summing up the mood, a source close to Zara last night told the Daily Telegraph: “The overwhelming feeling is just one of sadness. She is incredibly fond of Harry and just feels so sad about what has happened. That’s how they all feel.”

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Piroska said…
@wizardwench odd you do not seem to have any problem with Hikari's comments. In the photograph with Andrew that girl most definitely did not look to be only 17 years old and even if she was she was over the age of consent in UK where the alleged transaction took place. I have on other forums compared Miss Guiffre with Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice-Davies two good time girls who nevere pretended to be anything else. They too had sexual relations with older men including peers government ministers and Russian diplomats (and that relationship was the downfall of their friend Stephen Ward) They and Miss Guiffre were nothing like the homeless children exploited by some men and in any case Guiffre was not a homeless child with no contact with her family.
Jen said…
@Nutty, I certainly hope sadness isn't the only emotion being felt by the cousins. If Harry were my cousin, I'd be pissed and he'd know it.

We all know that the passive aggressive rant that was posted last week was all Meg; does Harry even have a say in anything she does? I am just beyond stymied how he can do this to family members he reportedly had great relations with prior to Meg. I am inclined to believe that she does what she wants regardless of his feelings on the matter. "It's for the best H....we must show them we won't be silenced! You don't need them anyway, you have me and the doll...err...Archie, we are the only family you need."

Has he become the ultimate Stepford husband?
Nutty, thank you.

I'd missed the point about the browser - that's a v.good idea to use something different. We've got to call in IT help in so I'll ask our chap for Opera. My email is exclusively for this blog already.

It seems to be a problem that others have encountered - it seems to be some sort of argument between Google Chrome and my other browser.

Oh well, third browser lucky!
Fairy Crocodile said…
Did you notice that historically the rise of entitled arrogant greedy individuals in royal families often signal trouble for the monarchy and often for the country? Just a few examples: Bad King John, Henry VIII, King George IV, Queen Anne of Russia, King Pavel I of Russia, Ivan the Terrible of Russia, Nicholas II of Russia, Wilhelm II of Prussia, Nero and Gaius Caligula of Rome, Napoleon III, Charles IX of France, Charles VI of France, even Mary Queen of Scots. The list is endless.

I am not saying Harry will ever be King but the simple fact that somebody in line to the throne is behaving like he does tells me the Monarchy is in a serious trouble. It shows some of the RF members lost all prospective of who serves whom and how it all works.

If the Queen doesn't put the end to taxpayers money poured on Harry and his family after her passing people will not tolerate it. Times are tough and measures should be tough too.
Miggy said…
If the rumour that @Sandie posted is true - that Haz has already departed Canada ready for his engagement tomorrow in Scotland, then I wonder what madam will get up to again whilst he's out of the way?

Can we expect more secret charity visits in Vancouver and surprise pap shots or has Haz put a stop to it? Hmmmm
Glowworm said…
Something just occurred to me that I want to discuss. Yesterday, The Charlatan Duchess had a lengthy listing of all MM’s missteps. One of which was accounts of how she behaved on their Oceania Tour; cussing, tantrums, arguments with Harry, demanding the entire residence instead of just a wing, etc. One of the arguments involved Harry asking her “Are you really pregnant?”. They were reported to sleep in separate bedrooms, which I found bizarre as they were newlyweds. However, this coincides with her starting to wear her moonbumps. I think it’s possible that she insisted on a separate bedroom so he would not see her supply of moonbumps and certainly not see her strap one on. Now, I’m wondering if he never saw her naked or even slept/bathed/dressed together for the entire time she was wearing those ridiculous bumps? His questions in Morocco, “are you pregnant?” “Is it mine?” make more sense now. I think she THOUGHT she was fooling him, too, but he probably was just letting her get away with it. He knows she’s unbalanced.

The thought of her actually pulling this ruse off on her husband as well is the craziest thing yet. She may have deceived him on the delivery as well. When the surrogate was in labor, she may have taken a private jet to Canada or the US where the surrogate was, then she just flew back home with the baby. “Guess what, Harry, I had the baby!”
KCM1212 said…
@Raspberry Ruffle and @magatha mistie
Rotten eggs would be perfect, but I prefer turned backs & a slow hand clap, whilst booing

Oh, I would love to see that!

@nutty
Thanks for that article.

She doesn't do "Harry s side" weddings well. Not only the pregnancy announcement, we also had her histrionics at the Inskip wedding, and the bra flash (deliberate) at the Van Straunbanzee's. I guess she behaved herself at Misha Noonoos.

Anything to upstage the bride. She'll probably come in riding a bicycle down the center aisle, blowing a kazoo and wearing a bikini.
Hikari said…
@Glowworm,

>>>One of the arguments involved Harry asking her “Are you really pregnant?”. They were reported to sleep in separate bedrooms, which I found bizarre as they were newlyweds. However, this coincides with her starting to wear her moonbumps. I think it’s possible that
she insisted on a separate bedroom so he would not see her supply of moonbumps and certainly not see her strap one on. Now, I’m wondering if he never saw her naked or even slept/bathed/dressed together for the entire time she was wearing those ridiculous bumps? His questions in Morocco, “are you pregnant?” “Is it mine?” make more sense now.<<<

Given the sickening levels of PDA this couple engages in (or used to) at every public engagement, obviously they were acting the part of "Soulmates: We are so In WUVE we can't keep our hands off each other, and we don't care who knows it!!!" But behind closed doors, it seems to be a completely different story--mutual contempt so caustic that they can't/won't even share the same house, never mind the same bed. Out here, we'd be the last to know, but with Meg, her levels of histronic overacting tend to disguise the polar opposite reality. For Meg, all 'reality' is constructed and if it's not papp/Insta worthy, then it's 'not happening'. But Look over here!!--See how in love we are? See how important I am? See how many celebrities are clamoring to work with me, the Black princess? . . See how I'm sailing through the most woke, athletic and eternal pregnancy in the history of womankind? Despite her age and her colorful history, she's pregnant 5 minutes after wearing virginal white and having Harry breathe on her? Yas--because she is a fecund Earth Goddess . .much more fertile than sicky Kate who spent three months with her head in the toilet each time! Based on her presentation at the Archie reveal, it seemed like Meg wanted the world to believe that she had conceived again immediately after giving birth to Archie, like, hours later.

Right.

Meg's whole life is a series of staged events and SM posts. I think the reality is a whole lot more sparse and pitiful. I've come around to the belief that not only do Harry and Meg not live together in the oligarch's mansion now, but that they have effectively *never* lived together in the history of their relationship. Transatlantic booty calls at Soho House lasted for about 6 months . .then there was the long (9 months or so) period of radio silence during which Megsy stalked Harry 'round the globe, turning up at various events he was at (uninvited) to spin the ploy that she was 'in a relationship' with the Prince, not just a sex toy he'd tired of. She gave an interview to Vanity Fair to further cement this fictitious relationship. A few months after this, they were engaged, and don't ask me what went down at Invictus in Toronto, but whatever it was, Harry looked like a condemned man who'd broken out of the state pen only to be snared again by the hounds.

Hikari said…
At this point MM moved to London (in such haste that she had to leave all her sh*t behind in a storage unit) and ostensibly moved into NottCott with Harry. Every cell in my body now doubts this, along with the fish tale of the 'romantic roast chicken proposal dinner'. I think she was at a Soho House property all the time, or else the Cotswolds cottage they rented and later reneged on was the place where she was stashed out of sight.

Then came the Corpse Bride wedding, followed by their ejection from Charles's garden party and the Honeymoon that Never Happened. They were so Top Secret about it because it never actually occurred. Meg went back to the Cotswolds and Harry did whatever he does. There must have been a few encounters for auld lang syne between May and October for her to be able to spin the tale that he'd impregnated her, but Hazza failed first year biology and may be still hazy, at 35 years of age, how a woman actually gets pregnant. If he was that unsure about his involvement, and never had occasion to see her naked or undressing, or even touch her, his confusion is understandable. But he really should have pressed for a few more answers--like insisting that he accompany her to a doctor's appointment and see some scans, for instance, or demand to see her unclothed in person when the Bump started behaving so weirdly.

Hikari said…
>>>I think she THOUGHT she was fooling him, too, but he probably was just letting her get away with it.<<<

Maybe. I think she plotted independently to launch this scheme (he'd said publicly he wanted to wait a while before kids. Narc-o didn't like that one bit as an anchor baby ASAP was crucial to her plans, and so announcing her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding was her revenge. Even a casual observer can see how she is pointedly ignoring Harry and laughing in the church--she'd probably dropped the bombshell of her intention in the car on the way over and he was frantically trying to make her stop.) After that cat was out of the bag, he no doubt felt shanghaied into going along with it . . she'd made it public and told him she had it all in hand.

>>>He knows she’s unbalanced.<<<

Does he? He's equally, if not more badly off, so I doubt he's got appropriate perspective on her. It's a Stockholm Situation by now, as his mental and physical condition have deteriorated so much in the last year. IF he had the real scoop on the 'pregnancy' six months after the wedding, the time to out her would have been then. Go to Granny, tell her that he has a real problem . . the Duchess has lost it and is pretending to be pregnant with a fake belly and telling everyone she's due 'in the spring'. The RF could have gotten to the root of the surrogacy plot then and perhaps had the marriage annulled. Too late now. What they've got is what they've got.

>>The thought of her actually pulling this ruse off on her husband as well is the craziest thing yet. She may have deceived him on the delivery as well. When the surrogate was in labor, she may have taken a private jet to Canada or the US where the surrogate was, then she just flew back home with the baby. “Guess what, Harry, I had the baby!”<<<

Anything is possible at this point. The whole Archie debacle is just ammunition for the theory that they were not living together and never have . . that they didn't/don't see each other for long stretches of time unless it's a forced public appearance/papp op. A husband who shared a home, a bed, a bathroom, a daily routine with his wife would have known something was badly awry with this pregnancy, even one as thick as Haz. I think he resumed his bachelor prince life after the wedding, including separate living arrangements and left her to do her own thing. Idle hands being the Devil's workshop, this is what she came up with. This and various SM accounts/bots/doxxing, etc.

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 I started thinking about how time passes when reading some of the articles about the birthday.  It was interesting to think about it from the different points of view.  Besides, it kind of fits as a follow up the last post (the whole saga of can the two brothers reunite). So there is the requisite article about how he will be getting all kinds of money willed to him from his great-grandmother.  There were stories about Princess Anne as trustee (and not allowing earliest access to it all).  Whether or not any or all of this is true (there was money for him and/or other kids) has been debated with claims she actually died owing money with the Queen paying the debts to avoid scandal.  Don't know but I seem to remember that royal estates are shrouded from the public so we may not (ever) know. However, strange things like assisting in a book after repeated denials have popped up in legal papers so nothing is ever really predicable.   We are also seein...

The Opening Act of New Adventures in Retail

 I keep thinking things will settle down to the lazy days of spring where the weather is gorgeous and there is a certain sense of peacefulness.  New flowers are coming out. increasing daylight so people can be outside/play and thinking gardening thoughts.  And life is quiet.  Calm. And then something happens like a comet shooting across the sky.  (Out of nowhere it arrives and then leaves almost as quickly.)   An update to a law suit.  Video of the website is released (but doesn't actually promote any specific product which can be purchased from the website).  A delay and then jam is given out (but to whom and possible more importantly - who did not make the list?).  Trophies almost fall (oops).  Information slips out like when the official date of beginning USA residency.  (now, isn't that interesting?) With them, it's always something in play or simmering just below the surface.  The diversity of the endeavors is really ...