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What the Royals should be doing now to help fight the Corona virus

A century or two ago, many people believed that Kings and Queens were sent by God to rule nations.

Very few people believe that any more; in fact, hardly anybody attends the European churches which are headed, in name, by their local monarch.

Instead, Royals are symbols of the nation. They are there to inspire, to unite, and to represent the contemporary moral code of the nation.

Right now, the UK is facing a moral crisis. Asked to be their "better selves" and help fight the Corona virus by staying out of public places, checking on vulnerable neighbors, and buying only what they need, many British citizens are complying.

Unfortunately, many are not.

Present and visible

This is a time when the Royal family should be present and visible. It should help boost public morale, as it did in World War II, and guide their citizens towards the behavior that will help others.

Here's a few suggestions as to what the family should be doing right now.


William

William, at age 37, should use this moment to begin to establish himself as a leader. I would like to see him on video offering support to the medical personnel (no need to disrupt their work with a visit to a hospital) or using FaceTime to chat with patients.

Since he has experience serving on a suicide hotline, William might also be filmed making telephone calls to the elderly, just to check in on them and help them avoid loneliness. Several hotlines have been set up for this purpose; William could visit one of them and take a few calls with the cameras rolling.

It would be a good reminder for other British citizens to check in on their older neighbors.


Kate

Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge, should serve as inspiration for families with young children. A video of the young Cambridges doing inexpensive home crafts - toothpick houses, painting pasta and glueing it to paper, even dyeing Easter eggs - would show empathy for the many parents now at home with their kids.

Kate might even have an expert along to talk about how children could play outside within limits - for example, by playing in a park with their own ball instead of climbing on germy playground equipment.


Charles, Camilla, and the Queen

Charles and Camilla should show how the older generation can stay in touch with their grandchildren without the danger of contracting the virus.

Showing them FaceTiming, Skyping, Google Hangout-ing, or Zoom-ing their grandchildren from their smartphones would serve as an excellent example.

Perhaps part of the presentation could be one of Charles' staff showing how to set this up. A celebrity that would appeal to the older generation, like Ringo Starr, could also be drafted in for this purpose.

Alternately, the Queen could be shown FaceTiming with some of her other grandchildren, such as Savannah and Isla Phillips. Bonus if she shows the girls the dorgis (Vulcan and Candy) through her smartphone.


Minor Royals

Other minor but popular Royals, such as Sophie, Countess of Wessex or Zara Philips, could be shown on video doing hand-washing demonstrations with their children, or learning from an expert about the various ways to say "hello" without shaking hands.


Finally, Beatrice and Edo should call off their fancy May wedding and get married immediately at the private chapel at Windsor. In attendance should be Queen, their parents, and Eugenie and Wolfie as Matron of Honor and Best Man. That's all.

This modest, keep-calm-and-carry-on wedding would endear them to British citizens, and maybe even get Bea the place as a working Royal she's wanted for so long.


Do you have any suggestions about what the Royals should be doing right now?

Comments

Portcitygirl said…
Majority on DM are disgusted by HAMS insta on the virus.

With this bad press, one would think their PR would have a sit down.
Sandie said…
Besides, it is an Internet-connected world and there are thousands of places where people are sharing information and ideas, which has been going on for weeks.
Genia said…
Trump just announced banning travel from Canada. So the Sussexes are royally screwed from doing anything now until the travel restrictions are lifted.
gabes_human said…
@Cat Eyes and @Superfly...

I was in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina rolled through. Within hours of the power grid going down every grocery store and pharmacy had been broken into. The only thing left we’re some country western cd’s in one particular WalMart store. The pharmacy contents of narcotic medications were on every street corner. All I could think of was that the fools didn’t have enough sense to think about some of the priceless antiques in some of the museums. Needless to say, I was very happy to camp out in an air mattress in the lab at LSU with my dog and man the MASH we set up in the basketball stadium. I now live in Texas and continue to be well armed even with my gated and keypad secure entrances. Does/did your husband hunt/shoot? You might consider a shotgun or rifle since I believe it is illegal for you to own a hand gun.

Nutty, I’m sending you a virtual pot of chicken soup and some fresh squeezed orange juice.
Sandie said…
And we hear from royalty in the form of William ...

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1240330384027652098
CookieShark said…
Oh H&M. What ridiculous platitudes as usual on their IG.

"How we approach each other" - we're not supposed to approach anyone right now! Hello, social distancing.

"Uniting each of us globally" - more word salad, we're all in quarantine right now. No thanks.

"Sharing information and resources" - SCAM SCAM SCAM, just like Travalyst seems to be, just like "curating" a collection of pieces designed by other people (!), I don't really need to give other examples do I?
Lurking said…
If they insist on going on social media, it should be reassuring and not pandering. No one wants platitudes right now. Everyone wants and needs reassurance. The Royals should set the example of good behavior.

HAMS are being excoriated in comments to their latest insta post... it's on the Daily Mail.

Henrietta said…
It speaks volumes that H&M have only been on their own maybe 4 months, and their public images are in the toilet. They've been excoriated on the DM comment boards on all their recent articles.
Vince said…
Extremely happy to see that Daily Mail "exclusive" yesterday about Meg supposedly going hyper-intense about the coronavirus.

Sure, she's trying to use a Kardashian-type model and co-opt every issue and have her PR reps leak stories to the media around that issue de jour. Yeah.

But, this was a panic move. You can see many celebrities trying to co-opt the coronavirus and get some free PR from it. Most of them are minor celebrities or faded celebrities. Desperate to stay relevant celebrities.

In the USA, for example, there are two celebrities (among others) who can always be relied on to come out and say something to dismiss the current administration. Alyssa Milano and Debra Messing. They are both on the downside of their careers, and are literally trying to keep their careers afloat via an external mechanism (politics).

Secure celebrities and others (like future monarchs) don't have to put stories out like what Meg did. This was a yachter-level move. Just pure virtue signaling (I take the virus so seriously! Handling it so well!) and nonsense.

To me, this shows the Harkles are in much worse shape than I thought. A lot worse. Someone holding a good hand of cards doesn't do this, and not like this, either.

My guess is all the big talk of this show and that movie are drying up fast. Also, the virus is clamping down on the whole world. That means any momentum from Megxit is going to be long gone before the world gets back on its feet. Bad news for the Harkles.
Sandie said…
Since the Harkles were hugging and hand shaking without care while they were in the UK, are they self-isolating and have they been tested?
No Time said…
They might be nervous, at least yesterday. https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/mounties-clear-blockade-targeting-tourists-heading-to-western-vancouver-island-1.4856861?fbclid=IwAR2TvgrIHmSZQcfjah2x5-7Qb5Kw_6z_BUnaLch8GRDro6llzakSdqtq-Hw
Humor Me said…
and William is the face of the Monarchy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8127257/Prince-William-breaks-silence-coronavirus-pandemic.html

comments are mixed - mainly concerning the RF stepping up to the plate $$$$$$ wise.
lizzie said…
@Sandie wrote

>>Since the Harkles were hugging and hand shaking without care while they were in the UK, are they self-isolating and have they been tested?<<

Good question. Plus, my view is if supposedly people self-isolate by choice (as it *appears* H&M have) they shouldn't keep sending other people out to "run errands" whether they make them wear (likely useless) gloves or not. How utterly selfish. We need to be safe, screw our staff.
Nutty Flavor said…
Good evening all - just stopping it to say I am feeling a bit better after a day in bed.

Thank you for all of your suggestions.

I see that William has come out as spokesman for the monarchy in this crisis, plus Bea is scaling down her wedding. Both were ideas many people on this board had advocated, so congratulations to us!
Nutty Flavor said…
Plus, of course, Meg has issued another one of her completely useless statements. There's just no "there" there.

Somehow the Sussexes must have heard that Kensington Royal was going to make a statement, so they jumped out there to be first.

Still haven't gotten the second half of that Harry conversation with "Greta."
CatEyes said…
@gabes_human said...

>>>I now live in Texas and continue to be well armed even with my gated and keypad secure entrances. Does/did your husband hunt/shoot? You might consider a shotgun or rifle since I believe it is illegal for you to own a hand gun.<<<

Thank you for your comment! I am fortunate to live in Texas also. I have resisted owning a gun but might consider it now since I live in a rural area but relatively close to town. You were so blessed to live thru Katrina. Let's hope we all live through COVID-19.
Lemon Tea said…
Lemon Tea here

@Louise

Yes,I am also getting messages about the virus from unexpected sources. Very suspicious of anybody who has never been around before , to now start comforting me.
JHanoi said…
Someplace I read that JH was shocked at th amount of money they had blown thru while holed up in their freebie mansion.

It won’t take long for Meghan to blow thru all thats available. And i think once the money’s gone Meghan’s gone. She won’t crawl back to the in-laws and live that life, she’ll go back to LA. The BRF knows that and won’t cough up a penny for her settlement, much like Sarah. So they’re just biding the time until it ends and JH is dumped and returns back to the fold, to be rehabilaited in Africa, back to working royal status.
WalkHumbly said…
@Vince Thank you for the insight on MM’s desperate attempt to stay relevant. I enjoyed reading your comments and learned some things!

@Henrietta The comments are scorching on the DM articles about MM! The comments on their (her) own IG are just as bad. I can’t fathom why she, or her PR, keep putting out this inane drivel when it continues to turn people more and more against them. I know a narc likes any attention, but really? What will it take for her to stop this insanity?

Do y’all think the media is being paid to publish this garbage, or is there a chance they’re deliberately turning opinion against them while appearing to be positive about her?

Does Harry see these articles and comments? Can he truly agree with all of this? The press is worse every day. Her self promotion is getting very old, but it is entertaining!
WalkHumbly said…
Who decides to create a charity without knowing what kind of need they want to meet? Who pays a university research staff to come up with a charitable idea? This is nuts.

By the way, someone commented on the “blue-sky” term. That’s a Walt Disney concept used by imagineers in brainstorming sessions. It means the sky is the limit on ideas, with every idea worth a consideration.
WalkHumbly said…
@Port City Girl “With this bad press, one would think their PR would have a sit down.”

YES! Agreed! Are they just taking the money and they don’t care?
Portcitygirl said…
Go William and Kate! Nutty so glad you are better!!!

Vince, your comments are always such a great read!
Portcitygirl said…
Who knows, WalkHumbly? They are insane, but their PR should be sane, right? I love your avatar. I quote it daily. One of the best in The Word, of which I'm reading more of lately.

I love this little Nutty Flavor Blog. i find myself seeking comfort here everyday, especially now. We have a good group of smart woman and a few great guys, too. God bless us all and keep us safe from harm.
Louise said…
Lemon Tree: The emails are coming from companies that legitimately have me on their mailing list for one reason or another.

But their concerns about my health are meaningless self promotion.
SirStinxAlot said…
I am not concerned about Covid19. In fact, I bought round trip tickets to Orlando for spring break this afternoon for $89. I am trying to do my part to keep the airlines in business and still get something in return. As oppose to giving them a bailout with my tax dollars and just getting lip service from politicians and oligarchs. Also, I noticed when I stopped for Starbucks this morning, they closed their seating area. Drive thru or carry out only. Has anyone heard of them gym is closing their doors yet?? I would hate to loose my beach body over the next 2 weeks and show up looking like a beach whale on vacation instead. I don't go to the gym anyways but it is a credible excuse.
As for the disasterous duo, I wonder if the weed shop is still open or if they get home delivery? Someone mentioned previously, that Vancouver legalised it some time ago. Too bad Canada wants to close the border for unnecessary travel. Bet tickets would go cheap right now. Wasn't there an article about the Harkles attracting tourist to that area??


DesignDoctor said…
@PortcityGirl wrote:

"I love this little Nutty Flavor Blog. i find myself seeking comfort here everyday, especially now. We have a good group of smart woman and a few great guys, too. God bless us all and keep us safe from harm."

I agree! So happy to be part of this online community! Thank you, Nutty! I am glad you are feeling better after resting today.

I am so sick of Rach, JH, and their inane comments and transparent attempts for attention. I could not care less about what they think about anything. Right now I am sick of seeing all those pics of Rach in that ugly green dress ensemble.

I wish they would just go away from being featured in the news! I am interested in hearing the truth about Archie, though.

SirStinxAlot said…
@Design doctor.. The more I see that dress with heavy blue eye shadow, the more I think Retro-Hooker(not to offend any hookers out there). Just saw an article just about the shade of blue eye shadow she wore with the Hulk dress. Reeks of desperation.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Ouch! The comments on DM are weapons grade!


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8126735/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-urge-public-support-amid-coronavirus-epidemic.html#newcomment
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@Nutty Flavor --

Gun-wise, I recommend a .38 Police Special. Small, not much of a "kick" and accurate within 6-10 feet.
Sandie said…
Meghan is deleting negative comments on her IG. Someone posted on Tumblr that she wrote a critical (i.e. negative) comment for that post on Coronacirus (as she is a follower) and she has been blocked.

I feel sorry for the Harkles because they are living in an echo chamber cut off from the people that can help them.
YankeeDoodle said…
One cannot make this up: The mayor of Baltimore, Maryland held a press conference, asking people to stop shooting each other, as the injured are taking up hospital beds that can be better used for corona virus patients! Yes, really. On a usual night in Ballmer, seven people were shot, and it was a weekday, too, not a weekend, when shootings, knivings are high number of murders occur in Murder City, USA.

I wonder where the Chunga Chungs are these days? Why doesn’t anybody ask Charles if he is still funding H, and if so, is he wiring money, and how much? Why is Charles funding a near middle-aged man, and not giving the money to hospitals or medical relief to his tenants? If I was paying taxes for an H who hasn’t worked in years, is doing zero, and hiding out except for making incredibly nasty remarks about his family, and whining and making people use HAMS faces as dart boards, I would say, good luck, you have millions, the Duchy money is better spent on people who did not fly out when the going got annoying, but stayed and need the millions.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ nutty "Nutty Flavor said...
Still looking forward to a UK commenter saying how he or she thinks the Royals should show their faces in this crisis."

What are they supposed to do and who am I, or you for that matter, to expect them to do anything, especially some sort of video for PR, like a show and dance? It's the government everybody's looking at, nobody is looking at the Queen or Charles right now. The governments' actions are what matter right now, not royal instagram videos about hand washing.
Nobody cares about 'good PR' for cute Charlotte and George washing their hands singing happy birthday.
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Vince said…
@WalkHumbly
@PortCityGirl

Glad you guys enjoyed what I wrote.

The Harkles now, for all intents and purposes, have been de-platformed. Their stage is gone. Being a full-time royal, particularly prince-level or above, means you pretty much have a constant access to spotlight and 'the stage' whenever you want.

But the Harkles quit. They gave the stage up. And the longer you're off the stage, the more people forget about you and stop caring about you. Which the Harkles are finding out now.

The plan was to move swiftly from Megxit into the next phase, while the iron is still hot. Coronavirus has shut down that plan. Enjoy, Harkles!





On a different subject, I came across something about Harry leaving the military in 2015. Here's one article on it:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-harry/11439428/Prince-Harry-to-quit-the-Army.html

The article talks about how Harry partly wants to step aside from the military to have more time for his pet causes. Either in that article or another one like it, the author talked about the 'unqualified success' of Harry's Invictus games (one of the pet causes Harry wants to pursue more full time by stepping down from the military).

This brings me to more clarity on Harry's role in all the Markle drama. For me, it backs up what I've thought all along -- Harry is an active member of this ongoing Harkles debacle. It appears as though Harry wanted to be in "Foundation mode" for some time now, even before he married Meg. Hang out, do events, get people to donate you and virtue signal as a career. And I'm sure meeting Meg only strengthened this impulse, for both of them.

Being famous for nothing (except being a prince) sounds fun and may sound easy (if you are a royal). But it's not easy. Ask Paris Hilton, who lost her spot to the Kardashians.

The Harkles are not interesting, they're not talented, they're not unique and they're not needed. They are two quitters who continue to whine about how bad things are for them and how poorly they are treated. It's insufferable.

Their nearly-complete irrelevance is coming, and I'm here for every second of that.
Henrietta said…
This is slightly off-topic, but royal-related.

I've been reading the DM's most recent H&M articles and looking for old posters (i.e., ones I recognize from the last year). One, RobinEE, said on a recent article that she could see some kind of a box outlined on the back of MM's green Cape dress in the Abbey and speculated it was a recorder for capturing conversations. Among other things, Robin thought it was hidden poorly and probably the reason for the cape. Has anyone heard this before?
Teasmade said…
@Henrietta: I think I read, on here actually, that the reason for the capes might be hiding wires.

lizzie said…
It was odd to see MM in so many cape dresses in such a short time recently. But she's worn caped or cape-like dresses before. The blue dress worn at the state affair in Fiji, the Navy caped dress for QEII's 92nd birthday, the ivory caped dress for the train trip with TQ, the red Valentino caped dress in Morocco, even the ungodly expensive Dior caftan...

She could be recording. I wouldn't put it past her. But I don't think her tendency to repeat a "trendy" style means that. I think it just means she latches on to a style and won't let go. Look how many bathrobe coats she's worn!
KCM1212 said…
Two weeks ago I was reading articles where M&M stated she "had been too busy to properly educate herself" on Covid 19. This was why she was rushing home to Archie.

And now she will be offering expert advise!

You know, she must really be a whip smart super model with mile long legs!

Anyone who looks to the sussexes for accurate information on ANY topic is, at best, deluded.






KCM1212 said…
As reported in the You have been Markled Tumblr blog

King Willem-Alexander of The Netherlands, Queen Máxima of The Netherlands and Crown Princess Catharina-Amalia of The Netherlands, Princess Alexia of The Netherlands and Princess Ariane of The Netherlands applause to all care workers, to support them in their fight against the corona virus and their commitment to the health of everyone in the Netherlands, at Huis ten Bosch Palace in The Hague, Netherlands -March 17th 2020.

Cute little video

https://youhavebeenmarkled.tumblr.com
Sandie said…
I doubt that Meghan was wearing a wire or any kind of recording equipment. How could she use such a recording without completely destroying any reputation she has left for good?

Meghan does not like direct confrontation, which is why this lawsuit of hers is going to be interesting, but I think she believes her time on Suits perfectly equipped her to be a star witness and win the case, spectacularly.

The dress just did not fit well, possibly because she wanted something custom made for her and did not have enough fittings, if any at all.
Teasmade said…
@Sandie . . .Speaking of her "departure" wardrobe, you know what I wondered? Did she have all these things ordered beforehand? And were they waiting there for her, hanging in her closet, wherever that may be? Surely she didn't cram them in her suitcases and drag them over from Canada, accessories and all. You mention [lack of] fittings: when would she have had time?

I just don't see WHEN this shopping or ordering would have taken place, as much as they've been gone.

These are the things I wonder about. Shopping and packing. Lame, I know.
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11203858/meghan-harry-visit-queen-balmoral/

PRINCE HARRY and Meghan Markle are still “desperately hoping” to spend the summer with the Queen despite the coronavirus crisis.

I find this story rather odd:

1. For two years in a row, Meghan and Harry have turned down the invitation, but now they are saying they will fly from another continent to visit this year?

2. Note that Harry is not desperate to see his brother, father, niece and nephews. I wonder why they are suddenly so close to the Queen? Do they think she is a pushover and will 'keep them royal', a link they desperately need?

3. How are they going to organise a time to visit so that they do not bump into other family, because I am sure that as the Queen and Prince Phillip get older and more frail there will be plenty of family making the trip to spend time with them in the summer.

4. Note that they are already trying to use the coronavirus as an excuse not to go. Various people have made predictions that the pandemic will be over in June (alongside the doomsday prophets that pop up and say that the sky is going to fall on our head and the virus will have the world in lock-down for two years), so what other excuse will they have to use?
Ozmanda said…
@Sandie @teasmade - "wires" are really the go to equipment for surveillance and/or recorded. Not when we have phones that have amazing recording capability. If you have access to a phone can may even be able to pre program the voice note function. Additionally there are really good equipment anyone can get anywhere. I recently did a brief on laser microphones - depending on the sensitivities and distance required, you can get one of this on Ebay for a reasonable cost. You can record from it, you can use it froen distances (as long as there are not a lot of tall structures in between) and can even set the more pricy ones to record. There are also pens that have microphones and tiny cameras in the lids that can do a decent job.
DesignDoctor said…
@SirStinxAlot

Agree. She looks and acts like a desperate hooker with or without blue eye shadow. She has NEVER looked the least bit royal.

Classless and rude.

Or, as someone in Morocco said, "She's repugnant."
abbyh said…

RE: could she be wearing a wire?

I don't know what the laws are in the UK but in the USA, there are states which do not allow one party to tape another unknowingly without a court order and some which don't. That's why when you call into many places, the message before you are connected will say something about all calls may be recorded.

Baltimore's mayor? Oh, just when I think I've heard about everything.
Unknown said…
The COVID-19 Sussex IG post was in bad taste because it felt manipulative and I still don’t understand what exactly Meg was trying to say. A lot of words with no meaning. She definitely has that mindset that disaster equals opportunities. Too bad she’s shallow and very transparent to successfully capitalize on anything.

OT posts:
I wanted to wish all Nutties and their loved ones good health and safety. May we all get through this together and get back our peace.

@CatEyes Thank you for sharing the miraculous news of your brother! I have been thinking about him nonstop and I am so happy for you. I will keep hoping that things keep getting better for both of you.

@Nutty Get well soon! Like others, I wholeheartedly recommend Chicken Soup. Broth is also a great vehicle for a nice dose of electrolytes.

I saw someone mention a recipe for Golden Milk. I second that recommendation but be careful and start with a very small dose of turmeric. Ideally Golden Milk should be made with whole milk. I make a paste and freeze to use for Golden Milk and general cooking. Here’s the recipe I use:

https://www.turmericlife.com.au/blogs/recipes/turmeric-recipes-golden-paste
SarcasticBimbo said…
I think that the options listed by Nutty are very well thought out and possible.

However, with regard to these, perhaps couching the material as, "Her Majesty The Queen and the rest of the Royal family are concerned for your well-being. As such, we would like to pass along to you these tips for remaining healthy, and stopping the spread of the virus to those who won't be able to tolerate it as well as most of the general public." Or something along this vein.

And then, produce the videos suggested with that announcement preceding them.
Mischief Girl said…
The idea that the Harkles are going to focus on sharing information about Covid-19 smacks of desperation.

They are simply trying to stay relevant. What happened to their expressed desire to focus on veterans? Has that gone by the wayside?

These two come across as immature dilettantes and arrogant in the extreme. We need sound advice from experts, not word salad from a spoiled couple on the issue de jour.
WalkHumbly said…
I was watching Sue Blackburn's video on how to identify a narcissist. She talks about covert narcissism. "Everything revolves around them being seen as as victim, and if that no longer happens, they will throw something out to ensure they are still in the forefront of people's minds."

That trait makes sense of MM's constant presence in the press, even when the story makes her look ridiculous and the reactions are overwhelmingly negative toward her. The daily stories keep her "in the forefront".

I was also thinking about how the stories change from one day to the next. First, she instructs her agent to get her a Marvel film. Then, she says she has no interest in acting. The next day, she announces she will relaunch her career in the fall. The back and forth has made no sense to me, other than keeping her name in the news, but I know a controlling partner will keep their victim off-balance, by continually changing the story, as someone called it, doing a "push me/pull you". She's doing this to her global audience, keeping us confused and wondering what is next.

I would love to stop giving her attention but it's fascinating to watch her more and more desperate ploys, and I'm hoping the situation will soon resolve happily with Harry grown up and back with his family, including his child. I truly hope the mental health issues are not as serious as she leads us to believe and that everyone will be okay in the end.
WalkHumbly said…
@Mischief Girl "What happened to their expressed desire to focus on veterans? Has that gone by the wayside?"

I was also wondering about this today. They make an announcement and then it changes within days. It's pitiful, really, but people are being harmed by their behavior, so it's serious.
Ozmanda said…
@abbyh - I am not completely sure about the UK but commonwealth telecommunication intercept laws are quite strict. Here in Aus there has to be a signoff by the prosecution and magistrate, and depending on the type of intercept specific personnel may need to be granted permission inidividually and whether they are authorised to listen or listen and transcribe or even if it is just call pings that are permitted.

Depending on the situation - for investigations and operational requirements, there is not a requirement to let the party know they are being put under surveillance. However domestic use can be quite different and it is usual practice that each party involved has to be informed either before, during or immediately after that they were being monitored - the form of monitoring, the method of recording and who may have access.

However there is one being exception - if the party is in l;public arena, they automatically release the right to be informed and you can do whatever (venues will use their own policies to restrict this and usually that is held up as it doesn't fall into the legislation so much as the policies of the venue - buy purchasing a ticket and attending you automatic accept the policies.)

I will shut up now :)
El Naro said…
@Animal Lover: "Royal Foibles has a entry on Harry's mental health and references Diana's possible diagnosis of borderline personality disorder along with PP's mother's diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia."
Thank you for this post. I think that JH has mental health issues that are far beyond having a parent meet an untimely death during one's youth, yet I do not see much discussion on this topic. It has certainly been intimated with the focus on mental health charities and would explain why no suitable match could occur, why a PR image is so necessary, and why he fell into the hands of grifters.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8129735/Prince-William-step-Queen-Prince-Charles-amid-coronavirus-crisis-plan-say-experts.html

This is some self-proclaimed expert's opinion and completely not true.

Can everyone please calm down.

I remember the Y2K hysteria - self-proclaimed experts made a fortune as hysteria grew. I remember a time in the past (quite a few years ago) when hysteria was whipped up because of sun spots and the national grid going down and there was a rush to buy generators and stockpile. This virus will pass and in the meanwhile, protect those who are most vulnerable and who will not be able to fight it off (offer assistance and avoid close contact in case you are infected).

The two dangers of this virus are a severe economic downturn (and the poor and struggling to maintain middle class will suffer) and savagery (looting and other criminal acts surge).

There are too many 'experts' popping up to sprout their opinion in the media and no one is challenging them or checking their credentials, other than on social media. I think it is actually a good thing for people to talk to each other because fears and opinions are dangerous if they are hidden in isolation.
Sandie said…
Sorry to post this here, but in my country the number of cases is roughly doubling per week (has only been with us for just over 2 weeks) and the majority are those who have brought it into the country rather than local transmission (but who really knows how many are out there and sick and passing it on that the authorities do not know about). The craziness has just started ...

Have the Sparkles posted anything on their IG ... expert information and advice, pithy quotes, essential stuff for mental health? Do you think it was Meghan or Harry that came up with the idea that they should make this a mental health issue ... no one else is doing that, we will be at the forefront!
Sandie said…
Here is a headline from DM:

Empty America: Incredible drone images reveal completely silent playgrounds at schools that have been closed to stop the spread of the pandemic

Please note the following: The virus spreads, which makes it a pandemic. To describe a pandemic as spreading is tautology.

The DM also likes to call the virus 'deadly'. No it is not. 'Deadly' means 'likely to cause death', which is not an accurate description of this virus.

Meghan and Harry? The most useful thing they could have done was humble themselves and apologise for all that hand shaking and hugging they did while in the UK. (The problem is not catching the virus if you are young and healthy, although being off work is a problem for many, but not knowing you have it and passing it on to vulnerable people.) And then share the news that they are self-isolating (which they are doing anyway) and have been tested. And then talk about what they are going to do if they test positive (to protect others) or if they test negative (to help others).
Sylvia said…
Prince William set to act as placeholder for Queen due to coronavirus https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8129735/Prince-William-step-Queen-Prince-Charles-amid-coronavirus-crisis-plan-say-experts.html?ito=native_share_channel-home-preview
Is this SR PR ? The article states JH will return as senior royal?
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Walk Humbly
I enjoy your posts but respectfully disagree about Harry hopefully going back to his family. I hate the thought. They will try and do their usual thing, rehabilitate him and create a positive PR for him. Now when I know for sure who he is it will only drop my opinion about the royals.
Harry is incapable of doing one thing that could work: admitting his mistakes and apologising for them.

He is mentally unstable,yes, but his decisions are 100% his and painting him a victim would be ridiculous. Remember, he said he stands behind all his statements he made to pranksters.

I am done with Harry and don't want to see him as a working royal.
Sylvia said…
From the Daiky Mail article re PW stepping in for HM and PC
'Prince Harry soon no longer a working royal but could act as Counsellor of State'
The article also mentions Princess Eugenie in this role has MM stolen this idea?
Sandie said…
Is this true or a rumour?

The video that William made was sent out to the press in the morning but embargoed as the NER website was fixing the donations link. Scobie is a royal reporter so he would have known that the video was going to be released and could have informed the Harkles, who then quickly posted to 'beat' William by a couple of hours in being first.

Sorry for posting so much but I am catching up on news and views ...
Sylvia said…
https://www.royal.uk/counsellors-state
Sylvia said…
By law, Counsellors of State include the Sovereign's spouse and the next four people in the line of succession who are over the age of 21.

Counsellors of State are authorised to carry out most of the official duties of the Sovereign, for example, attending Privy Council meetings, signing routine documents and receiving the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom. However, there are a number of core constitutional functions that may not be delegated

lizzie said…
Under the Regency Act, Harry IS a counselor of state (COS.) As is Andrew. Besides Will, they are the only ones under age 70. Beatrice, not Eugenie, will become one when Charles becomes king and perhaps sooner since two are needed to act. https://www.royal.uk/counsellors-state

When MEGXIT first came up people questioned whether Harry could remain in that role if he doesn't live in the UK as a UK "domicile" is required. The fact that he's not a working royal seems immaterial as he is in the line be of succession and meets the age requirement of being at least 21. Philip is no longer a working royal and he is still a COS as he is the Monarch's spouse. Beatrice will become one at some point and she's not a working royal either.
Fairy Crocodile said…
Sandie,

Do we still care what the Harkles posted and how much ahead they were? We have already got the main thing - Hazza and Mazza are irrelevant. At this point my concern either old and weak Queen or Charles give in and let them back into the royal fold.

That is going to be a never ending string of disasters, punishing hardworking reliable working royals and rewarding Harkles' failures. The media will do its usual thing and will try to polarize people as much as possible too.

If this doesn't happen Harkles will do what they do best and continue turning themselves into laughing stock.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@KCM1212

Yes! Just imagine the positive wave from our own monarch publicly praising NHS workers or those who work very hard to keep food supplies stable. Farmers, growers, supermarket staff who have to work harder disinfecting and restocking everything, delivery drivers, emergency response teams, energy sector, police, animal shelters workers, vets. And all good people who take care of old and vulnerable.

In this funny posh voice of hers she could say: "Please spare a thought about those less fortunate. Help them feel they are not abandoned, share a bit of love and warmth with them. Support them in any way you can. This is what really makes us humans".

That would be very welcome. So far she is so much behind all other royals in the world who did the right thing to encourage and praise.

Unless she is ill or Phillip is in serious trouble I am very disappointed with her. again.
CookieShark said…
Is it true PC caught her taking pictures at KP and sent her home back to Canada. If so I would believe she intended to record them.
lizzie said…
@CookieShark wrote

>>> Is it true PC caught her taking pictures at KP and sent her home back to Canada. If so I would believe she intended to record them.<<<

I've heard he caught her taking pictures somewhere (not sure it was KP especially if it was Charles who caught her) but I have no idea if it's true.

I wouldn't put it past MM to record. But if she wanted to do that for her "records," I'd think she'd use a small digital recorder or cell phone in a handbag.

I don't know if the "As Seen on TV" strapping on of "a wire" actually ever happened that way, much less if it happens these days given advances in technology. But if it does, I think it's much more likely to be used when law enforcement wants to listen in (in real time) to conversations between their informant and their suspect. There's just no reason to use that kind of set-up to create records for oneself. And with MM flinging herself at people for full-body hugs, I kind of doubt she's got wires and microphones taped under her clothes.
Louise said…
If PC caught her taking photos and became so incensed/worried that he had her put on a plane back to Canada, I very much doubt that the RF would have allowed the wedding to go ahead.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Lizzie, Cookie Shark

I guess MM totally blind and deaf where it comes to propriety and protocol or even commonly accepted behavior. This is believable she was caught taking pictures of the private rooms without permission and was firmly told this was not acceptable. Pictures were probably confiscated too.

Whoever witnessed and leaked the episode only conveyed the basics, i.e she did something unacceptable and had been told off, then the rumor mill added details and colour to this.
ITV has just reported that both HM & Prince Philip are going to Windsor for Easter a week earlier than usual.

HM was shown departing BP by car; Philip is being flown there by helicopter from Sandringham
bootsy said…
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but the idea that the RF have a vital role to play in all this makes me think of the TV show Veep. Lots of people running around, pumped up on their own self importance in a little bubble when the reality is that all of the schemes that they worry about so much are laughably unimportant and mean nothing to most people.
The idea of Princess Beatrice being a Counsellor of State (according to the DM) is absolutely hilarious.

I am not a fan of the RF as I don't believe that being born into the right family (or marrying into it) bestows you with magical powers that mean you are more important than any normal citizen. Seeing Beatrice, let alone PH and a woman who until 3 years ago was a little known actress, coming into the public eye with all their wealth and baffling privilege while the country suffers economic hardship, along with other kinds of hardship, is absolutely ridiculous.

The RF have no role to play except for donating their immense wealth to pensioners in need. That's all they should do, not stupid puff PR photo op stuff. Come on, pull your wallets out.
Sandie said…
The Regency Act is not going to be invoked because of coronavirus. If it is invoked it is because the Queen intends to step back for another reason, such as if Prince Phillip dies (but I can see her becoming another Queen Victoria under those circumstances!).

1. The Queen is not under 18.
2. The Queen is not infirm of mind and body, nor is she unavailable. She is not in solitary confinement, cut off from communication with anyone, nor on her deathbed nor has she gone mad. The Queen spends 3 months in Balmoral, which is in Scotland, for 3 months every year and there is no talk of the Regency Act being invoked. Right now, she is in Windsor, where she often stays.

As for regency passing on to William instead of Charles, see above for the reasons why it would not happen. Charles is not under 18, not infirm of mind and body, nor unavailable.

Henrietta said…
Bootsy said,

"The RF have no role to play except for donating their immense wealth to pensioners in need."

If PC were to pay off the amount for the Frogmore Cottage renovations now, in one lump sum, I think he would get double points, like in Scrabble. I don't really think personal contributions to various funds would resonate as much as that would.
Sandie said…
@bootsy: The RF have no role to play except for donating their immense wealth to pensioners in need. That's all they should do, not stupid puff PR photo op stuff. Come on, pull your wallets out.

Money is not the issue in this crisis. However, unlike Meghan and Harry, the Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William all financially support organisations. (The Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge does not establish nor run organisations but gives those that they support funds. The Queen frequently donates when there is a crisis, but the amount is not disclosed and the donation is never publicised.) What they are probably doing in this crisis is mobilising those organisations they support to get out there and help and to find extra funding if they need it. What personal donations they are giving will not be publicised but they often do dip into their pockets.
Sandie said…
https://www.royal.uk/message-her-majesty-queen-19th-march-2020

This is the latest message from the Queen:

A message from Her Majesty The Queen, 19th March 2020

As Philip and I arrive at Windsor today, we know that many individuals and families across the United Kingdom, and around the world, are entering a period of great concern and uncertainty.

We are all being advised to change our normal routines and regular patterns of life for the greater good of the communities we live in and, in particular, to protect the most vulnerable within them.

At times such as these, I am reminded that our nation’s history has been forged by people and communities coming together to work as one, concentrating our combined efforts with a focus on the common goal.

We are enormously thankful for the expertise and commitment of our scientists, medical practitioners and emergency and public services; but now more than any time in our recent past, we all have a vitally important part to play as individuals - today and in the coming days, weeks and months.

Many of us will need to find new ways of staying in touch with each other and making sure that loved ones are safe. I am certain we are up to that challenge. You can be assured that my family and I stand ready to play our part.

ELIZABETH R

Sandie said…
And here is a statement explaining what the Queen is doing (in the interim, the State Visit by the Emperor and Empress of Japan has been postponed):

Announcement regarding changes to The Queen's diary
Published 17 March 2020

As a sensible precaution and for practical reasons in the current circumstances, a number of changes are being made to The Queen’s diary.

Audiences due to take place this week at Buckingham Palace will go ahead as planned. These include receiving the Prime Minister, the Commanding Officer of HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH and the Bishop of Hereford. Future Audiences will be reviewed on an ongoing basis, in line with the appropriate advice.

Her Majesty will move to Windsor Castle for the Easter period on Thursday 19th March, one week earlier than planned. It is likely The Queen will stay there beyond the Easter period.

In consultation with the Medical Household and Government, a number of public events with large numbers of people due to have been attended by The Queen, and other Members of the Royal Family, in the coming months will be cancelled or postponed.

The annual Maundy Service at St George’s Chapel on 9th April will not go ahead. Three Garden Parties hosted by The Queen, due to be held at Buckingham Palace in May, will now not take place. Guests already invited to these Garden Parties will be asked to attend in 2021. Two additional Garden Parties given for the Not Forgotten Association and the National Trust will also not take place. Investitures will be rearranged to later dates.

Further announcements on Trooping the Colour, the 75th anniversary of VE Day and the State Visit by the Emperor and Empress of Japan will be made in due course, in consultation with Government.
Unknown said…
Queen has issued a lovely message...
bootsy said…
@ Henrietta
If PC did pay off the millions for Frogmore Cottage it would serve to highlight the outrageous follies of the gilded RF in these strained times. Who actually pays these millions is not relevant. The fact that they spent that much and can afford to pay it (and quite easily too) simply serves to highlight how ridiculous the whole set up is.

bootsy said…
@Sandie
How do you know they donate? What is the proof? And considering the life of luxury they lead, and the immense wealth they possess, so what? Is it really that much, let alone in these strained times. Will the odd bit here and there be enough?

As for the 'mobilising organisations thing', that's straight out of Veep. It's vague PR speak to make people look busy and look like they're doing something. Is that work? How do they do this 'mobilising'? Oh wait, they turn up somewhere and chat to people, is that it? And then they want others to give money to these organisations. How about donating the entire year of profits from the Duchy Estate? Not going to happen, but hey as long as they're mobilising support then yay for them.


Money isn't the issue in this crisis? The stock market drop, based on the fact that economies are grinding to a halt (along with inflated asset valuations due to low interest rates and other factors, but that's a different conversation) will have a huge effect on people's employment status. Maybe not now, but in a few weeks time and further down the line, it will be when small businesses go under and people are laid off.
Not everyone will get free govt money. Only large corporates will get that, and not all of them will get a pay out (not that any should) so there will be scores of people in real trouble in these companies too.

Add to that-how will old people get about and go to shops if they are isolated, don't have a car and don't have public transport to travel on now? Will they get taxis? Will they have to pay? Let's see the RF reach into their wallets and set something up for that scenario.

When all of this really starts to bite, does anyone here really think that most people will appreciate being preached to by a bunch of privileged, slightly dim and immensely wealthy people? That are so soft that they have previously blathered on about their own perilous mental health while right now, many people are isolated, lonely, sick, running out of money and being generally cheesed off with things?

It's a struggle to get food at the supermarket in some places at the moment. The RF don't even do their own shopping, let alone cook their own meals-they have staff for that. And they're going to appear somewhere (maybe a supermarket-probably the first time they've ever been in one) in a puff piece bit of PR and expect people to take it seriously as they walk around with bodyguards (keep the riffraff at bay) and then get whisked off in an convoy of expensive cars back to a palace or an estate where they have staff, get their meals cooked, and also have people doing the shopping for them (no food shortages for the RF). Still, maybe Kate will re-wear a frock from last year that is only worth £200-she's such a trooper isn't she? Yup, it's straight out of an episode of Veep-a show that is well worth watching.
If they say anything about how hard they're finding it then it will be laughable. Situations like this only serve to highlight the gulf between 'us and the.'


As such I think that they need to be extremely careful in deciding what they do from here. In times of great hardship, having people of immense unearned privilege appearing to 'highlight a situation' or whatever they do (that's all they ever do isn't it) is kind of pointless because we all know what's happening, we're not idiots.

A misstep would be easy to make, like Beatrice suddenly being someone important and appearing places as if anyone cares. Whoever that that one up?

Sorry if that is rather aggressive in tone, it is not directed at you personally Sandie. I am not a fan of the RF as you know, and am incredibly frustrated that anyone can think that these chinless bald wonders have anything to offer in these times except donating directly to those who will be in real need in the months to come.
Henrietta said…
Bootsy said,

" I am not a fan of the RF as you know, and am incredibly frustrated that anyone can think that these chinless bald wonders have anything to offer in these times except donating..."

TBH, it sounds like nothing they could do would be satisfactory to you. Maybe your comments are indicative of how careful the BRF has to be with anything it does now. The republicans are restless.
Mimi said…
bootsy, about time SOMEBODY told it like it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hikari said…
@Vince,

>>>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-harry/11439428/Prince-Harry-to-quit-the-Army.html

The article talks about how Harry partly wants to step aside from the military to have more time for his pet causes. Either in that article or another one like it, the author talked about the 'unqualified success' of Harry's Invictus games (one of the pet causes Harry wants to pursue more full time by stepping down from the military).<<<

Invictus was Harry's special baby. (I'm gonna go ahead and use was. He's demonstrated that he gives no more cr@p about his signature charity than he does any other. Ditto Sentabale, 'cause 'Harry's all about Africa.)

When a freshly-returned to civilian life was presented as the creator of Invictus, I was very impressed with him. It was modeled on an existing program in the States, but that didn't diminish the achievement. After all, the Scouts of America were lifted from longstanding British youth programs. Harry was the very visible face of the charity and he was winningly pictured with the veteran athletes, taking part in wheelchair events in practice and joshing around with the guys. The kinds of photo ops that made Hazza the most popular Royal for a time, after the Queen. Wounded warriors and cute kids--that was Harry's niche.

It was only since joining this board that I learned that the entity we know as 'Harry, Soldier Prince, Advocate of Wounded Warriors' was entirely the creation of his former equerry, Edward Lane Fox. All private secretaries have to be aces at organization and logistics, but ELF has skills that go far beyond keeping the diary and making sure his Royal is on time and looking presentable. ELF was a Pygmalion, crafting out of the very raw lump of clay that he was saddled with, a national hero--as compassionate and committed as he was cheeky and devoted to fun.

I was beyond disappointed to learn that ELF came up with Invictus, and no doubt Sentabale, too, hand-crafted charities designed to bring out whatever good there was in Harry to the Firm's benefit--and the wounded veterans and cute kids, too. Since ELF was only a servant in name, Haz got to claim all the credit for coming up with Invictus. In actuality it appears that the real Harry can barely come up with his own name at times.

ELF was the making of Harry . . and Meg has been the unmaking, in just a few short years.

@bootsy

In regards to it being 'ridiculous' that Beatrice is in line to be the next Councillor of State when Charles ascends, I don't really see that as more ridiculous than Harry continuing to hold that post, given what he's done to his family in recent months. I'm not sure why it should be possible for a person to renounce not only his family, his duty to the Crown, but also his duty to the State. He's renounced Britain and well as his HRH. Why should such a person have the legal authority to make State decisions? I'm asking rhetorically, but it seems that post-Megxit, an amending of the constitution is in order on this point. Beatrice has a university degree, her own employment and is on good terms with the Queen and all her family members, despite the antics of her father. Despite the disappointment of being shoved out of the inner circle of working royals, she and Eugenie have not turned publicly on their grandmother the way Harry has. Harry is not stable nor is he intellectually equipped for the post. Surely his cousin could do better?


This brings me to more clarity on Harry's role in all the Markle drama. For me, it backs up what I've thought all along -- Harry is an active member of this ongoing Harkles debacle. It appears as though Harry wanted to be in "Foundation mode" for some time now, even before he married Meg. Hang out, do events, get people to donate you and virtue signal as a career. And I'm sure meeting Meg only strengthened this impulse, for both of them.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Bootsy

Many people are changing their attitude towards the royal family. There is still a lot of respect for the Queen, although I hear more and more voices saying it is time for her to step down. Charles is becoming more popular as people realize he has done a lot of really good work and many like his quintessential British eccentricity. I personally believe the huge crisis he lived through with Diana made him a better person.

Anne was and is popular. Wills is growing in popularity to the extent they make him the "face" of the firm. Kate has not put a foot wrong recently.

There is still hope for them. I believe Wills can see what needs to be done and is doing it.

If they cut Harry and Andrew from the main tree they will probably survive.
Hikari said…
This bit is also Vince's comment

>>>>This brings me to more clarity on Harry's role in all the Markle drama. For me, it backs up what I've thought all along -- Harry is an active member of this ongoing Harkles debacle. It appears as though Harry wanted to be in "Foundation mode" for some time now, even before he married Meg. Hang out, do events, get people to donate you and virtue signal as a career. And I'm sure meeting Meg only strengthened this impulse, for both of them.<<

I agree. The Harkles are well-matched for immaturity, selfishness, greed and intrinsic laziness/disregard for rules and that odious 'duty'.

Harry is the Beta narcissist who latched on to a more dynamic one, the one with 'vision' and hustle. When he got out of the Army, Harry could have approached his grandmother about crafting a role for himself within the Firm that was more non-traditional and allowed him to spend part of the year in Africa, had he really had the fire in the belly to succeed at it. The issue for ER was not wanting to spend more time in the Commonwealth; it was the Harkles' blatant self-interest in using the Crown as business leverage, spurning royal engagements to do so. That is not supporting the sovereign.

But Harry has no initiative on his own and precious few brains and so he just moped around complaining that he wanted a 'normal' life. And then he met Meghan. 'Normal life' and 'Meghan' do not and will never coexist in the same frame.
bootsy said…
@Henrietta
Very true. In normal times I find the RF to be a mild annoyance and a curious example of human behaviour whereby people elevate other humans to exalted levels for no particular reason.

There is one thing the RF could do to make me happy though.
They could donate a considerable portion of their wealth to charities that will directly help the most affected by current events. The key term here is 'considerable.' 1 million out of a profit of £20 million + per annum for the Duchy of Cornwall is not going to cut it, and that doesn't take into account other income streams. If PH is worth 30 million due to trusts then who knows waht wealth there is sloshing around.
Nor will 'mobilising organisations' or whatever it is they're supposed to do be enough for me either.

I am a Republican, what will be interesting is how those who aren't really bothered either way will react.

If you're in the UK, and specifically London then I can recommend donating to a charity called southlondoncares.org

bootsy said…
@FairyCrocodile

I have no idea if you are correct or not. The fact that anyone looks up to them as if they are somehow better than them is an absolute mystery to me. Are any of them anything special? Any inventors in there, any above average minds? A Bill Gates, a Rothschild (probably not, they're Jewish), a Stephen Hawking, hell even a Jackie Collins, do any of them have anything REMOTELY special to justify why they are lauded and looked up to?

And the answer is....nothing. They are nothing special. All they do is take advantage of the weakness within the human psyche whereby people elevate other humans to exalted levels for no particular reason. Or because they're in the acting profession:):)
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Bootsy

I agree with you hereditary monarchy leaves a lot to be desired. I met prince Andrew and it was very obvious he is a pompous a**hole. It was embarrassing to watch serious people crowding around him laughing at his jokes and catching his every word.

Stripped of the royal mystique and aura they are really nothing special.

Some of them understand this and at least try to do some good. Others don't even understand.
SDJ said…
Omid Scobie just tweeted that Luminary Bakery has inspirational "isolation cakes" available for delivery. complete with picture of MM.
Tone deaf to the max.

https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1240543091091742722

gabes_human said…
@Lt. Uhara
@Cateyes
I’ve been pleased with this Beretta M9 and a .45 my son insisted I need. I figure that if I can’t hit my target with one shot chambered and two clips of 15 each-well I better run fast. Since they are kept in a safe I’d probably never have a chance to use one should the occasion arise. “Please Mr. Burglar, just let me open my safe... .” As my children tease me. However, my toilet paper is perfectly safe.
so glad you’re feeling better Nutty. I’m chopping chocolate to make cookies-would you like one with a nice cup of tea?
gabes_human said…
@Henrietta, yes, I saw the square shape outlined on her right shoulder blade. Could it have been the battery pack for a recording device in her (too small, strapless) bra? It’s a crying shame no one spoke to her to better give her ammunition for her claims of poor treatment. The cape draped over her left shoulder so that’s another thing she didn’t plan too well.
Vince said…
@Hikari

Thanks for the info on ELF and how Meg destroyed the work he did, on Harry. Sounds right. It's a shame, I guess Harry found his groove and then that got shattered.

I agree with you, Harkles are made for each other and Beta Harry did latch onto a 'hustle' partner in Meg. And yes, they both seem (and seemed) fully focused on how they can cash out from the crown, not help it.
CookieShark said…
@ SDJ re: the "Isolation Cakes"

LITERALLY let them eat cake.

"We'll get through this" - tell that to the family of people who have died.

Of course MM had to be front and center.

Most families are concerned with making sure their children have enough food right now, that we have pet food, and medicine. No offense but I'm not going to buy a cake with leftover money. How about MM make sure all of their salaries at the bakery are paid instead?
FrenchieLiv said…
@ SDJ : funny that I found this story in People magazine.
Is Scobie being paid by Meghan to write nice articles and posts about her? This is becoming increasingly obvious!

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-favorite-london-bakery-delivers-isolation-cakes-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/


Some other headlines:

1/ Invictus postpones with a video of Harry

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8132117/Prince-Harry-POSTPONES-Invictus-Games-coronavirus.html

---) I didn’t watch the video as I can’t stand him anymore :-)

2/ Meghan desperately trying to stay in the headlines:

- Sussex Royal account shared the Queen's message:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8131681/Suussex-Royal-account-shares-Queens-message.html

---) #thesetwoareshameless

- Prince Harry and Meghan Markle moved to Canada to 'shield' Archie from 'negativity and tension' in the UK, sources tell US Weekly:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8127321/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-moved-Canada-shield-Archie-UK-negativity-source-claims.html

---) This is like listening a broken record. I am bored!
Sandie said…
I accept that some people here think that the BRF should hand over their wealth to those who are not wealthy. I suppose that you do expect the same from all the billionaires in the world and all the celebrities (many of whom have greater wealth in terms of income than the royal family does and less expenses and no public role to play other than promote themselves and be woke)? The only two ways to enforce that are through punitive tax or revolution.

Bill and Melinda Gates may have chosen to spend most of their wealth on philanthropy, although they still do live very luxurious lives. (The BRF has a fraction of the wealth that Bill Gates has.) Most billionaires don't and they have no obligation to give to the poor, support charity and so on, nor to be a symbol and keeper of history, culture and tradition, represent the country at a diplomatic level, recognise and support excellence in society ... The big downside is that it is a hereditary system, so what does one do with a bad king/queen? What if Prince Andrew or Prince Harry were next in line to be the monarch?

It is the British Royal Family, so if the majority of the British people want to do away with the monarchy, then I am sure they can make that happen, but the majority do not. Unless all the palaces and other Crown property (and the personal property if it is a full-on revolution) are going to be handed over to the poor, if they are going to be preserved for history then someone is going to have to manage it all, so the costs would be about the same.

Throughout history royalty has been resented and a confluence of people organising (i.e. a revolution) and royals living extravagantly and not really doing anything for the people has led to revolution. Sometimes royalty are then executed and sometimes they are permitted to flee into exile. I suspect that the eventual end of monarchy in the UK (anf it will happen) will be a lot more civilised!
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Fairy Crocodile said…
@Unknown

Hi, I am in UK and did a couple posts about Japan based upon the info I get from people I know and follow there. The post about Japanese response to virus I did on the Nutty virus blog today comes from the summary a person I know in Japan did for us from the Japanese press. Hope this helps! Stay safe!
Sandie said…
I am not seeing this on the sussexroyal IG or the Invictus website (a message is there but not the video or a message from Harry), but got this from Omid Scobie twitter:

https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1240706607702564866

Invictus Games 202 have been cancelled. The above is a video message from Harry.
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Ann Christensen said…
Kind of a silly question. These are (with the exception of MM, who should be silent) adult intelligent people with vast experience and well-informed staff. They don't need our suggestions. They are doing just as they sholld (again excepting MM who should shush and go away).
We readers have enough on our hands evaluating our own situations. God Bless the Queen.
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Platypus said…
Hoping everyone is staying safe. There’s a new Harry Markle up!
Sandie said…
@Bootsy: I applaud your revolutionary spirit! I am a student of history and to me the most interesting parts are the major revolutions that change humanity (well, most of it) forever (until there is a regression).

I just wanted to say that the Queen did not inherit a vast personal fortune. Through good management and modern thinking (let's do commercial farming on this estate, and so on) she has increased that fortune. Same for Prince Charles with the Duchy of Cornwall (and most of that income is used for the benefit of the people of the duchy).

As for donations to organisations ... yes the Queen actually does give money to charity. She has charities/organisations that she donates to regularly plus she always dips into her purse when there is a crisis, not only in the UK but also the Commonwealth and beyond. Note these are private donations, so are not in any public record. These are some of the one-off donations she has made that the pubic knows about:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1181504/queen-news-royal-latest-bahamas-hurricane-dorian-red-cross-fund

https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/queen/queen-makes-a-personal-donation-to-those-suffering-from-famine-in-east-africa-78421/

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/British-Queen-makes-private-donation-for-Australia-floods-203335

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016082633241/the-queen-donates-red-cross-italy-earthquake/

As for the economic effects of coronavirus ... I predicted from the start that this would be the major impact of the pandemic, not deaths. The Western world is wealthy so no one will starve or become homeless. If you live in a country where this does happen, maybe you need to become a political activist and change that because I assure you that the Western world can afford to home and fee and clothe all of its population. In the UK they are talking about a universal basic income, freezing debt repayments, giving out freebies wherever possible, and so on for the months that the virus will be around and the months taken to recover afterwards. If you live in the USA you are probably on your own, but you do not have a huge unemployment problem and the economy will quickly boom again once the virus is gone or reduced to non-dangerous.
Glow W said…
@sirstinxalot yes, everything is closed here. Dentists, gyms, zoos, parks, golf courses. Surgeries are emergency only. I also read Florida has closed their beaches. Restaurants are take out or curbside only.

I don’t know what you are going to do in Orlando.
Lemon Tea said…
Lemon Tea here

Hi Nutty and everyone else

I had a busy day, trying to get supplies and getting my hands washed.

What is this news that I read.

There are 5 Counsellors of State in Britain, available to fill in the role of the Queen, when she is unable to do so (such as now -coronavirus).

Phillip 98, Charles 71 , William 37 , Harry 35 and Andrew 60.

Never mind everyone else, but the Hazard is in 4 th Position?

Also they further state that 2 or more Counsellors of State must be presiding at any one time. Harry and Edward are no longer working Royals , but this is not a requirement for this role. So it means that Hazard is 4th in line, not 6th.

Why?

How did noboby see this? The Hazard is a Counsellor of State!!!

Please tell me its wrong.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Sandie,

I mean no disrespect but please listen to this. I was born in what used to be the soviet union. I could feel the outcome of Russian revolution on my own skin. It effected my family deeply.

I am not going to preach about life in the Soviet Union. There are plenty of good books about the sea of blood that flooded Russia and other unfortunate countries following the military coup of 1917 which brought Lenin and Stalin into power.

What I personally learned from it not every drastic change is good. The Russian revolution motto was "we will destroy the old world of violence and will build our own new world where who was nobody will become everything". Violence and cruelty that followed scarred the country for generations to come. The removal of deeply unpopular Russian royal family did not bring a kingdom of social justice and equality.

So I am very, very weary about the notion of any revolution in any society. Especially if it involves total and drastic change of traditions, culture, religion or social structure within a short time.

Just a personal experience.
Pantsface said…
Pantsface here, not posted in ages but enjoy what others post. I shop once a week and this time last week all was fine, now its bloody armeggedon, what is wrong with people?? Saddened to see the complete and utter selfishness of people. In fact my local Currys (I am in Uk) has sold out of chest freezers, get a grip people! Anyway pleased to see the Royals are on our side, bet they dont have to trawl the shops for bog roll :(
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YankeeDoodle said…
I am not sorry, but the HAMS are like a yeast infection that will not go away. One goes to the drugstore, and perusing the cures, should you choose a one day, three day or a week’s dose of the medicine. And then, it threatens to return, anyway, as the itch and pain that is not lethal to health, but makes a person just want to scream from the return. Of course, they pop up again, after another day or so of relief, due to intake of sugar (mentally imbalanced followers) and moistness (the gratis mansion most likely has rot and mold from water). Yeast infections. Just when you thought they were not annoying, bothering and threatening, they threaten a return.
SirStinxAlot said…
@Tatty, I will flirt with death and give it a wink 😉 maybe the finger too🤭


I have family there that has been wanting us to visit for spring break. I had originally planned to drive but the fares are so low I couldn't resist. I knew several places had closed up like Disney and the cruise lines. There is still fishing, camping, swimming in the pool, soccer, listening to old battle stories from military days, and alcohol always helps with creativity, etc. And drive thru for Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts is still open, so I think I will survive.

If I die, I will let y'all know to beware. Anyone have an Ouija board?
SirStinxAlot said…
@Yankee Doodle..I was thinking Herpes but I guess yeast infection might be an appropriate adjective.
Animal Lover said…
Hopefully the Cambridges will ensure both Charlotte and Louis have a good education to prepare them for a career as the BRF will be slimming down rapidly.

I posted this in Nutty's virus blog and will re-post here.

@Fairy Crocodile,

Thanks for the info. I was in Japan shortly after the SARS epidemic. Many people were wearing masks, so I did too, but noticed a westerner laughing at us. Better safe than sorry.
I wish the president would use the war powers act and order pharmaceutical companies to begin manufacturing medications in Puerto Rico again. It's a win win situation. We'd be in control of out supply and Puerto Rico would have desperately needed jobs.

An update from Seattle, my vet is not allowing people into the office, instead they will take my pet, perform necessary tests and bring him out to me. All conversation will be by phone. When I arrive at the vet's office, I'm to let them know I'm there by calling them from my cell.

When I saw my doctor yesterday at a major medical center, the staff took my temperature, asked me if I had shortness of breath or other symptoms that would identity Covid-19. After being screened I proceeded to an empty doctor's waiting area. Seattle was a ghost town.

The information below is from the Washington Examiner, a conservative daily:


The Trump administration, moving quickly to halt the spread of the coronavirus, is seriously considering grounding all passenger air traffic for up to 30 days, temporarily halt stock trading on Wall Street, and imposing a “shelter in place” rule, according to officials.

As a newbie here I am surprised to read so many anti-monarchy comments on this blog.
Glow W said…
@sirstinx, enjoy. 👏🏻
Genia said…
In Japan people don’t wear mask to prevent catching illnesses. I mean they do to a degree, but the main reason Japanese wear masks (in times when epidemics not happening), is due to allergies which many Japanese suffer from. Another reason the Japanese wear masks regularly is civic duty. The Japanese are probably the most germaphobic and orderly people in the world, couple this with ingrained sense of public good and civic duty, that’s another main reason for wearing masks out in public. They do that when they feel a cold coming on and don’t wish to burden others with their germs. I spent 3 years in Japan and go there regularly. They really are a world apart when it comes to order and cleanliness.
Miggy said…
Meaningless. Cliched. And 5,000 miles away from Queen's wisdom: There may be a time and place for facile messages, but Harry and Meghan's preachy post showed a fundamental misunderstanding of the Royal Family's mystique, writes RICHARD KAY

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8132637/RICHARD-KAY-Harry-Meghan-miles-away-Queens-wisdom.html
CatEyes said…
@Rebecca B

I deleted my comment before yours precisely because some may view my post as being against the Monarchy. It wasn't my intent and I do have a great amount of respect for the Queen and most members of the monarchy except Harry and Meghan. Words cannot begin to describe how I loathe those two awful humans.
Ozmanda said…
Government officials are not able to travel and circumvent these types of bans unless there is a very good operational reason. Diplomatic immunity isn’t a “get out of free card” for travel, they still have to adhere to civil aviation requirements.
HappyDays said…
Rebecca B said...
As a newbie here I am surprised to read so many anti-monarchy comments on this blog.

@Rebecca B: Actually, for the most part, I think most of the people who post here like the monarchy, and hold Elizabeth in very high regard. You posted at a time when a lot if people are disappointed or perhaps frustrated at a seeming lack of meaningful action by HMTQ and the RF during the coronavirus pandemic and uneven handling of the Megxit of the Sussexes.

Go read some of the older recent topics and discussions. It’s mainly Harry and Meghan who draw the most ire by far because they deserve it. Harry and Mayhem as I like to call her, are fascinating and cringey watch, mostly due to Meghan's profound narcissistic personality disorder and how she grifted her way into Harry’s life and the royal family. It was masterful, but evil.
moz said…
For anyone who wants to see a picture of Markle’s back and the recording device, check out the picture on: https://twitter.com/LynneBailey
Sandie said…
@Unknown said...
Lemon Tea here

Counsellors of State and heirs to the throne are not exactly the same. William's children are too young (must be 21, or 18 if heir to the throne) to serve as counsellors of state; Philip is not an heir to the throne.

Counsellors of state are senior members of the British royal family to whom the monarch delegates certain state functions and powers when not in the United Kingdom or unavailable for other reasons (such as short-term incapacity or sickness). Any two Counsellors of State may preside over Privy Council meetings, sign state documents, or receive the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

They are not in order of seniority as they all have equal standing although I don't think someone like Harry has ever been called on to perform this duty: Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince Harry, Prince Andrew.

Heirs to the throne are listed according their order in the line of succession: Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Prince Louis, Prince Harry (followed by Prince Andrew, Princess Beatrice, Princess Eugenie, Prince Edward ... and so on)
HappyDays said…
moz said…
For anyone who wants to see a picture of Markle’s back and the recording device, check out the picture on: https://twitter.com/LynneBailey

@moz: DANG! What IS that!!!
abbyh said…

Look for the video of them arriving and you can see that both sides of her in the dress present some I can't quite put my finger on.

When you look at her front, to me, it looks kind of normal, maybe a little tight on the body but she has curves.

When you look at the back, I am reminded of the braces they used to make kids with scoliosis wear under their clothes. It's a sharp edge and then you see the line of the body drape not on the same plane or at angle above the flat piece > it doesn't make sense. Unless there is some new strapless bra which runs high across the back of the body.

Leaving you don't get a good look but nothing jumps out at you like the way it does on the arrival.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8093269/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-join-Harry-Meghan-minute-Westminster-Abbey.html
moz said…
@HappyDays

The place where she keeps Harry’s balls
Henrietta said…
Incredible find, Happy Days! I was Googling "Meghan Markle" and "green cape dress" and didn't find jack.
Sandie said…
Gosh, I thought the chatter was speculation but it is not. Both kensingtonroyal and sussexroyal shared the latest press release from the Queen. Spot the difference:

kensingtonroyal has posted the same letter that is on the Buckingham Palace royal website:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B97Fc5IFdkH/

sussexroyal has posted the letter that was sent to the press:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B97DDdrJh9_/
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Rainy Day said…
That video of Harry...unrehearsed, unplanned, unprofessional, messy, incoherent, and he lost me when he started off saying, “Hi guys.” No women in Invictus Games? And where was it filmed? It looks like a spare bedroom that hasn’t been furnished, or a cheap motel room. Maybe that’s where he’s been sleeping? If they still think they’re going to make millions, they’re going to have to up their game. Right now they look like incompetent amateurs.



Genia said…
Meghan is quite a horrible person without all the conspiracy theories surrounding the following suppositions: fake baby, drug use, and yachting. I think being the following: toxic opportunist, raging megalomaniac, dumper of family and friends, calculating liar, blatant climber and ass-kisser, and fake humanitarian, is a lot worse than all of those conspiracy theories combined. The public is beginning to see who Meghan is as a person by those very qualities as opposed to conspiracy theories. This is why even the fawning US media is starting to turn on the Sussexes too. Americans do not like people of privilege who are perceived as both snobby and preachy.

For all the talk building Meghan up to be a savvy and smart woman, it is now clear that she is neither of those things. Smart people never burn bridges unnecessarily. Yet Meghan has burned the most important lifeline bridge in the form of the RF, the very reason why she is relevant today. Bowing out and badmouthing before things get finalized. No consideration for ramifications of scorched earth animosity towards the powerful throne and valuable pursestrings. Overconfidence on own misplaced sense of self-worth and importance. Underestimation of the gullibility of others outside of fangirls or stans circle. Now of course it has come crashing down, victim of her own hubris and set of unique circumstances.

The world will be economically and socially impacted for months to come. Frivolity will have its place as before but not the oversaturation of it. The obscenity of super-wealthy celebs setting the bar for aspirational culture will be seen as just that, obscene. People around the world are getting a dose of reality right now, the aftermath will be felt for quite a while. What is truly important in life-- family, health, and contentment versus the mirage of shallow happiness espoused by celebrity culture. We see already the backlash against that Imagine singalong by clueless celebs posted on Twitter, singing about imagine no possessions while safely ensconced in their mansions. People are fed up with the overt tone-deafness by the rich and privileged. Sure go collect $1 million speaking fees from Goldman Sachs if you must, but don't pretend to be humanitarians who lecture us on how to be better people.

Too bad Meghan and Harry burnt their bridges so hastily. They could both use some genuine good thoughts and love from family, the very same family Meghan insisted was beneath her and Harry's contempt. As for their delusional humanitarian-influencer empire, they will probably eek out an existence on a much smaller scale. Certainly not on the grand scale that'll be enough to keep up with the ultra-rich jet set. Harry will get disillusioned and tired of chasing after money while Meghan will be perpetually dissatisfied with lack of Oprah-level success. But I don't think she would leave him, Harry is more likely to leave her because he has a lower tolerance for dealing with strife than she does. Meghan is more likely to hang onto him because status is more important than wealth for true narcissists unless it's extreme wealth on a level unfathomable to most people. If Jeff Bezos comes calling I doubt she'd let that opportunity slip through.
Crumpet said…
@Genia,

Amen, to what you say!

The Covid virus has ushered in a paradigm shift. The BRF, our countries all, our communities and people will make it, most of us at least. The familiar bonds of daily life are different now, will they be vastly different this time next month or next year? I too hope the value of so called experts, celebs, minor royals diminishes and the voices of the average person, families and the most vulnerable are heard and supported.

Harry and Megs are waiting for their million dollar checks from PC, the UK citizens and big business. While we in the US are waiting for our $1200 checks from the government. I know I will value mine more.

Thank you Nutties for being a place of sanity for me!
Magatha Mistie said…
@Genia
Yes, to all you said.

@Anon Unknown
As for the monarchy, I’m a staunch monarchist.
The Queen has had a triple whammy,
Andrew, Megxit, & Corona virus.
HM will steady the ship, & carry on as usual.
God Save the Queen
Sylvia said…
Meaningless. Cliched. And 5,000 miles away from Queen's wisdom: There may be a time and place for facile messages, but Harry and Meghan's preachy post showed a fundamental misunderstanding of the Royal Family's mystique, writes RICHARD KAY
Anonymous said…
@Rainy Day
That video of Harry’s should be an embarrassment to him, but I believe its amateurish nature reflects his and MeMe’s embrace of California Cool. I cringed just now when I wrote that. But I think Harry is probably happy with the video.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Sylvia
Harry & Meghans post also showed a fundamental misunderstanding
of the British Public.

@Rebecca
I doubt Harry, or his wife, realise how embarrassing they are.
Scandi Sanskrit said…
@Genia:

Okay, that celeb video WAS AWFUL.

I saw about half of it with the audio turned off & half of the people in that video were empty behind the eyes.

It was unnerving.

It's ironic how they say the foundation of acting must be empathy because half of them look like sociopaths. Hannibal Lecter had more warmth.
Unknown said…
@ Sandy

Lemon Tea here

Thanks for that reply.

If Harry has relinquished his Royal duties , why is he a Counsellor of State?
Teasmade said…
@Animal Lover: "An update from Seattle, my vet is not allowing people into the office, instead they will take my pet, perform necessary tests and bring him out to me. All conversation will be by phone. When I arrive at the vet's office, I'm to let them know I'm there by calling them from my cell."

My vet too has begun "curb service", as they are calling it. I think it's adorable, and I hope it's one of the adaptations that remain with us after this crisis is over.

Hm, off topic. Uh, let's see . . . I don't remember who posted it but yesterday's anti-monarchy rant that included calling them bald and chinless: I completely agree. I think monarchy is an absurd concept that is way way past its sell-by date. I hope the shenanigans that we discuss here lead to the end of it in Britain. I don't mind their lack of chins, but their lack of superior intelligence and talent is what gets me. They've retired their newsworthy-ness lately because once a generation someone marries a tall woman who wears clothes well.

I'm only sorry I won't live long enough to see the end of it.
Besides the Order of Succession and the category of Senior Royals (of whom Anne is one), there's also the order of Precedence - something different again.

`Precedence' governs who goes first, even if only through a doorway I suppose, but also who is introduced to whom. There's an old quandary - does one introduce the widow of a bishop to the wife of an admiral, or vice versa? People can get very touchy if it's the wrong way around.

As far as I can make out, `Eldest sons of Dukes of Blood Royal' take precedence over younger sons of Royal Dukes (William over Harry, sons of D of Cornwall). That's obvious.

Assuming I've understood it correctly, by the same rule, Prince George, as eldest son of an eldest son (of D.of Cambridge, elder son of D.of Cornwall), takes/will take precedence over Harry as well.

That really must get the Sussexses' goat,another reason for Smirkles to hate a little lad who's still in prep school.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Wild Boar
That was probably the tipping point for Harry,
tiny, newborn George usurping him.
Followed swiftly by Charlotte & Louis.

No matter the age of the children, Harry has been bumped.
Harry understands, not happy.
Megs still thinks Harry is relevant, & off we go.
I didn't think `being of superior intelligence' was on the list of requirements for being royal anyway.

How would a monarch with, say, a Double First from Oxbridge, plus a DSc and a Nobel Prize for medicine, be perceived by the person on the `Clapham omnibus?' I expect quite a few well-qualified Nutties have personal experience of being resented, even by those who should be their nearest and dearest. (My first cousin, my nearest blood relative, can never resist the opportunity of having a dig at graduates and universities...

What is needed is a sacrificial lamb as Head of State, someone apolitical, without an axe to grind, who can be the focus of the nation in difficult times, who is diplomatic in the extreme, and who knows how to behave without giving offence or causing an international incident.

When times are good, they should be able on a bit of a show, thereby significantly boosting the economy, bringing more tourist cash than they cost.

Constitutionally, they should be a focus of loyalty for the armed forces, part of that delicate balance between the people and the executive, a bulwark against a coup d'etat or bloody revolution. George V was particularly aware of this after WW1 and feared a repeat of the Russian Revolution here.

In the past, a monarch led the army into battle, for which some strategic cunning, plus an ability to take heed of what the generals advised, was a prerequisite. That hasn't been necessary since the Battle of Dettingen in 1743.

A president would cost just as much - the thought of some of the potential candidate leaves me cold.

If somebody really wanted to be Head of State, wouldn't their motives be suspect? Would you like Tony,`Cash-Register Eyes' Blair in the job? Presidents come and go; our present Queen can offer a really long view of the nation and its affairs.
bootsy said…
@Sandie
I study history too. I think that because of people like Edward de Bernays, us humans are effectively gamed by those in power so real revolution is quite hard to come by nowadays.

With the greatest respect I don't see a news article stating that the Queen has given to charity as any real evidence that she has done so. It also doesn't state how much. Not that I would believe it without firm evidence anyway.


Also, the wealth of the RF is vast. They didn't pay any income tax for many years. They are exempt from inheritance tax. As such they have been able to expand their wealth free from any state clawbacks. They have bought property and assets for years as a result of this government giveaway.
Great wealth accumulation happens over many years, and if you have the ability to keep your cash pile while also investing over the years with no one clawing the money back via tax then you're way ahead.

Sandringham and Balmoral are private properties.
The Duchy of lancaster has a net worth of approx £400-500 million and gives an income of about 15-20 million per year. Think of similar income over 70 years being reinvested, tax free, in other assets.
Charles has his own Duchy.

So yeah, I thimk the best thing that the Royals should be doing is not 'raising awareness' or 'mobilising resources' but committing their tax free cold hard cash to various front line schemes that help the vulnerable.

Instead we'll get Kate in a reused dress and will be told how wonderful she is and how the RF really care etcetc
Magatha Mistie said…
@WildBoar
Thank you.

God Save the Queen
Magatha Mistie -

Yes! Up to Georges birth, H may have hoped that the Cambridges would be childless. Prior to that, could he have nursed the secret hope of a helicopter crash?

We assume that allowing females into the order of Succession, was purely a matter of equality but it does have the advantage of pushing H further from the throne. Perhaps that made it more attractive? Without Charlotte, H would have been 5th in line, not 6th.
Magatha Mistie said…
@Teasmade
I disagree. I like our “ bald & chinless” monarchy.
Nothing wrong with a tall woman who wears her clothes well.
That same woman has integrity, & backbone.
Catherine will be Queen.

KnitWit said…
Did you see this op-ed piece?

https://www.ccn.com/fresh-off-blasting-royal-family-meghan-markle-asks-us-to-show-compassion/

I think the Harkles should shut up and focus on their own "mental health". Using the current crisis as yet another PR ploy is revolting.

Magatha Mistie said…
@bootsy
Why would you want a revolution during a pandemic?
KnitWit said…
While catching up, I just read queen nutty has a fever and concerns of Covid19. Worry some to wonder if illness us a "regular " virus or THE virus de jour.

Praying all the nutties stay well.

Hoping the Markles continue to provide much needed diversion to the self isolating public.
bootsy said…
@Magatha Mistie
I'm not sure where you got that idea from. At what point did I state that I wanted that?
Also, even if I was stating that we should get rid of the RF during the coronavirus, I think it is a bit grand to say that this constitutes a 'revolution.'
Portcitygirl said…
Pro Monarch which most of you know.lol.
Magatha Mistie said…
@bootsy
You said “So real revolution is quite hard to come by nowadays”
Your words.
Fairy Crocodile said…
I have learned a lesson today thanks to Richard Kay of the DM. He pointed out that because Covid is not a personal or family crisis, the Queen could not have issued a statement or a message without some sort of request from her government.

So, delay in her address to the nation could have been caused by delay in coordinating it with the government, which has more than enough on its plate already.

I take my words about her being hopelessly late back.
Magatha Mistie said…
@bootsy
I wasn’t being grand. I asked why would you
mention revolution during a pandemic.
Teasmade said…
@Magatha, I'm not Bootsy, but I think this calls back to a previous discussion of the fates of previous monarchies, among which of course was the Russian, who as we all know were slaughtered as part of a revolution. Or I guess "Revolution."
Fairy Crocodile said…
@MagathaMistie

"Harry & Meghans post also showed a fundamental misunderstanding
of the British Public".

I agree.

I also liked how the Queen's message was accompanied by a picture of her in the car with her dog. Somehow it made her so much more human. This was masterly done.
bootsy said…
Yes I said real revolution is hard to come by nowadays.
It was a general comment based on history and real revolutions that managed to rid society of Royal families and/or totalitarian systems who wielded actual political power a long time ago e.g. France and Russia.

And how real revolution is impossible thanks to people like Edward De Bernays, the father of modern advertising. There is a great documentary called The Century of The Self which describes his impact.

I'm not calling for any sort of 'revolution ', nor do I see as changing the staus of the British RF as any kind of 'revolution ' anyway.

Sheesh. Chat rooms eh.

If people are upset that I dare to mention revolution (not actually call for it but heavens above mention the word in a historical context) during a pandemic on a chatroom then I suggest you either toughen up or get some smelling salts to protect your Victorian sensibilities:):)
Animal Lover said…
The BRF reputation took a hit from Meghan and Andrew's shenanigans. It's up to William and Kate to display serious public service and humility as a form of leadership if they are to survive.
Harry really blew it! He had a sterling reputation before taking up with Meghan who comes across as a very shallow person to say the least.
Sandie said…
@bootsy: That you do not believe something because it contradicts your standpoint does not make it untrue. The Queen does use most of her private income to support her family and for donations.
Ralph L said…
"Without Charlotte, H would have been 5th in line, not 6th"

England never followed the Salic Law, which excluded females and their descendants. All of William's children (and future grandchildren) took precedence over Harry before the law was changed, regardless of sex. Otherwise, the Duke of Gloucester would be king now. The recent change just put C before L. Poor Anne is still SOL.
Sandie said…
A bit of humour: The immediate reaction from the folk at LSA to Harry's video message was 'Why is he sitting in a broom closet/laundry room?'

The video is still not on their IG site or website. The former has for some time now been increasingly devoted to all things Meghan.

Perhaps Meghan is forcing Harry to self isolate and has banished him to the utility wing of the mansion?
MustySyphone said…
The video of Harry is both heart-wrenching and eye-opening. He looks like total cr#p, his message is full of uhms (very unprofessional) and seems to lack true emotion. Like he really doesn't care but has to do this. Makes me wonder if he's been on a nose candy bender, is truly surprised that the world doesn't like him any more, or is finally showing his true colors. Like many thinkgs in life, probably a combination of all these things.
CLEATH said…
He looked awful and unprofessional in that video. I know he wants to come across as ‘Just’ Harry, but there’s a difference between casual and just woke up. Put on an ironed shirt (perhaps an Invictus one), brush your hair, figure out what you’re going to say so you don’t ‘um’ your way through it, and find a nice backdrop in the 10,000sqft home you’re squatting in.
Animal Lover said…
Welcome back Tatty!
bootsy said…
@Sandie
To be clear I don't 'believe' that she doesn't give to charity. There's just no proof to show that she actually does, and until then I'll wait and see. Considering how carefully the RF have avoided paying tax like us plebs over the years then it's not an illogical leap to think they might not give too much away to charity either.

But you have provided no proof to show that she does other than puff piece articles with what is likely to be RF pr at work.

You believe she gives a lot, gives often, or somewhere in between and think those articles are proof enough. Ok fair enough. I don't.

You state she uses most of her private income to support her family. What is your evidence?
And does she need to do this anyway?

Charles makes 20 mill a year and supports his kids with that money. Although Harry is worth 20-30 million anyway.
Andrew is worth about 50 million quid thanks to a trust fund.
Edward and Anne also have trust funds worth about 30 million.

And the Queen makes 15-20 million per year.
They didn't pay income tax for years. They don't pay any inheritance tax.

Perhaps what they could do is set up a Charity, largely financed by their own money, which has the sole purpose of ensuring that food is delivered to the isolated and the vulnerable during these trying times.
Or make a substantial and transparent donation to a charity that already does this.

Or maybe they'll make some speeches to 'raise awareness' or which will 'mobilise organisations.'
It sounds absurd doesn't it?

Hikari said…
Thanks to Yankee Wally, who has transcribed the 'content' of Hazza's Invictus announcement.

As you’ve now heard we’ve sadly had to suspend the Invictus Games and move it to 2021.

This was an incredibly difficult decision for all of us to have to make. [Uh] And I’m so incredibly grateful for everybody that’s worked so hard after the last couple of weeks to try and find any alternative (Smile) to try, [Uh] and carry out these games in a, in a different way, a safe way.

But, this decision [Uh] was the most sensible and the safest option for all of you, for your families and everybody else involved in these games.

[Uhm] I know how disappointed you must all be [Uh] this is a focus that so many of you need.

I would encourage you to maintain that focus [Uh] as best as you can. [Uhm] The good thing is you have an extra (Smiles) twelve or so months to be even fitter, to get even fitter than you already are. To be at your absolute top mental and physical fitness.

[Uhm] So in that sense I’m really excited about the [Uh] games next year.(Smiles) [Uhm] I’m sorry that we couldn’t [Uh], that we couldn’t provide this for you.

Please look after yourselves. [Uh] Please look after your families. Please look out for one another. [Uhm]

You guys were in on all these chats groups, you know, you know who to look out for. [Uhm] So please take, take care of yourself, but do what you do best which is reaching out to other people.

[Uh] Be it those that still have uniform, those that used to have uniform. Or just those people in your community who you know may be suffering or may be vulnerable during this period.

[Uhm] Do what you do best. [Uhm] And we will do everything that we can to get you a date [Uh] and a time (Smiles) for you to show up next year. [Uh] And you’ll be the first to know.

So again, I’m really sorry that we couldn’t make this, couldn’t make this happen. But, [Uhm] take care, look after yourselves and I’ll catch up with you soon.

Thanks. (Serious Face)

********

Hikari said…
Based on this, I actually expected it to be worse. The visual quality of the video is not good, and Harry's forehead (shiny) looks like it has huge lumps on it, but that may just be the grainy quality of the video.

There are a lot of ums and uhs, but this was pretty obviously extemporized from what looks like the laundry room of wherever they are staying. There's a dark wood cabinet and a beige wall behind him; he could be anywhere. I have a hard time believing that they are still in that Vancouver island mansion. Harry looks like a struggling actor recording an audition tape in a hotel room, really. Operating his own camera and all, but that's what one has to do when the staff's been laid off.

This was not a polished video, such as the one William made, but it does have a more 'Good ole Hazza' conversational style. It's a bit verbose and repetitive, but that's because he apparently didn't write anything down, never mind practice it first. So for being off the top of his head, and probably the first and only take, it could have been worse. It's very in keeping with the 'Just call me Harry' aesthetic. Haz looks a bit tired, I suppose . . still hasn't figured out that gray shirt does nothing for his complexion, particularly in bad lighting against a beige wall . . but he's looked a lot worse than this to me. Which is not to say he looks *good*, mind you. The lumpy forehead is freaking me out.

I think they are not in the Vancouver mansion for the simple reason that there'd be a lot more attractive views to shoot this video in, or at least one with decent light, like near a window. This kind of smacks of the Santa Harry video, where the blandest, most generic backdrop was chosen to disguise where he actually is. He looks to be on a folding chair next to a utility closet, if you want my opinion.

I'm sure the folks who are really in charge of the day-to-day operations of Invictus made this decision, and Hazza is just riding their coattails and acting like he has the authority to make that call himself. I don't think so, Haz. I wonder if anybody affiliated with Invictus can even bear to look at you anymore.
Teasmade said…
@Hikari: That transcript is hilarious! Not that I was going to watch the video anyway. "Please look after your families" . . . does he know he has a father-in-law somewhere in the same hemisphere where's he's supposedly residing in luxury?
SirStinxAlot said…
Yesterday there was an article stating spring breakers were to leave the beaches in Florida. Today there is an article saying the governor will keep them open. Hmm

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/florida-governor-keeps-beaches-open-bringing-back-freedom-of-choice-during-a-pandemic_03192020?fbclid=IwAR3-8jSG8dcOZTUzOWegMpnMHb4qxzekaA-sd5a0lB4RjNGPPyPMwpnJ0Lo


I wonder if Meghan and Harry will hit the beaches in Canada for some yoga? We will get pap photos no doubt. Maybe Archie can play in the sand with Dad.
Animal Lover said…
What impressed me about Harry's speech is that he didn't make it about himself but talked about the concerns of others. This begs the question of what is he doing with
her??
Genia said…
Now the Sussexes want their IG followers to fight stay-in-place boredom by training online to become mental health counselors. To the Sussexes, anyone can just log onto some dinky website and with a few hours of "training" become a mental health professional. Don't have to go through years of postgraduate study and mandatory number of hours actually working with mental health patients, just go the Doria route (still don't know how she got her master's in social work credentials without a bachelor's degree). Posting crap like that not only is a slap in the face to educated, trained, and credentialed mental health professionals, but it's also patronizing to people who need help. Basically Meghan and Harry are saying this is something to do when you're bored and need to feel like a humanitarian to the sad plebs. Take an online course of only a few hours then you can call yourself a mental health expert. Now go FaceTime some poor, sad sack and listen to his/ her sad stories until you get bored or too sad yourself.
Sandie said…
Yep, looks like he is sitting in the utility section of the mansion (wherever they are squatting or burning through Harry's inheritance).

I was impressed that he said the speech without reading from an auto card, but as commentators say here, this is what makes it unprofessional (never mind the laundry room and his appearance) because we all repeat ourselves and say 'um' when we talk (plus other fluff, of which my sister's favourite is 'I mean' ... in every sentence!).

Maybe he is cultivating an image of the barefoot humanitarian and philanthropist? I don't mind if he wants to be eccentric, but an Invictus shirt would have been appropriate (maybe they are still in the washing machine)!

Why is the video not posted on their IG platform or their website? Have he and Megsy gone their separate ways and she is controlling those two online platforms?

As said above, Harry did not make the decision but he probably did dial in and get informed of the decision to cancel. He is the patron so I doubt he makes governance decisions.

Look at the latest post on sussexroyal IG:

https://www.instagram.com/sussexroyal/?hl=en

As the folk on LSA used to say: she is batsh1t crazy. She actually is running with this 'use the coronavirus virus as a platform to be visible and be heard'. Did she get that image from a site offering free woke sayings for posting online? ... cringe!

I would have been impressed if she had posted something like this: We feel very cut off from what is happening in the UK at the moment but would like to help. After consultation with Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Kensington Palace, we have compiled a list of organisations working to help with the coronavirus pandemic in the UK. If you can, please support them in their efforts either with a donation or as a volunteer (see each entry for how to donate or contact them and for what each organisation needs in terms of volunteers).

But nope, woke, tone deaf virtue signalling and grandiosity are Meghan's go-to response. How she can be so hypocritical as to talk about family and supporting each other when she has ghosted everyone on both sides of her family (we assume she still talks to Doria) and has cut Harry off from his family is just mind boggling.
I think JH looks good in this Invictus update, which seems very sincere. The only thing I noticed was a little heaviness over the eyes, like he is tired. Island Health has announced (bizarrely, imo) that they will not be telling us plebs where the virus outbreaks are as this is a "violation of privacy." A lot of us don't feel this is right as people are making the choice to do or not do a bread run (for example) based on the level of infection within their specific regions. Their argument is that everyone should be washing their hands and keeping distance, so knowing where people are or aren't infected makes no difference.

Just want to say too that I am an ardent supporter of the Royals, especially those on and in line to the throne. The Queen has provided me with stability in my life, for example, when I moved to Canada with my then-husband at age 21. It felt reassuring to know that I was still in a Commonwealth country. Sure, rotten things happen to them and certain members have to be chastised and weeded out, but the way they have handled this has been key to maintaining some sense of order and level-headedness. My only disappointment is whatever appears to be happening in the handling of HAMS. I do understand why the Queen puts family relationships ahead of anything else, and applaud her for taking the "Royal" away, but I wish she would put her foot down as far as Megs is concerned. Having her bash the RF through her "friends" or PR team is just inexcusable in my opinion. Of course, putting her foot down would upset Harry, but he knows he is loved and has choices.

I find it very unsettling and unprofessional how JH has twice bashed older people as being stuck in their ways and beliefs. In fact, the opposite is true. Older people, through experience, have the ability to sift through arguments and not pick a side and stick to it without doing due diligence. I don't see this happening much in the HAMS world.

Wishing everyone the best.
Ralph L - My mistake, I can't have been thinking straight.



I mentioned `revolution' in the context of the relationship of monarch, military and government - seen as a way of avoiding a military coup against Parliament.

L-H Astrid - good to see you back, trust all is well re previous anxieties.

HM is a devout Christian, doubtless heeding Christ's injunction not to advertise one's charitable giving - those bits about the left hand not knowing what the right one does, also the Publican and the Sinner in the Synagogue. Those who boast about their charitable giving are seen as hypocrites and `Whited Sepulchres' - squeaky clean on the outside, rotten within. We've met them all, blowing their own trumpets.

When I was Pledged Giving Secretary in our parish, there was one donor (believed to be very generous) who refused to Gift Aid her contribution, so we could not claim back the income tax she paid on it. Not only was she giving Caesar his due but was ensuring that neither I nor Inland Revenue knew how much she gave.
Sandie said…
And this is how the Cambridges do it:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B99vfqglP00/?utm_source=ig_embed
abbyh said…

Genia - I used to volunteer at a local crisis deal and you are right, they don't just have to sit through a couple of hours of "training" and toss you on. It was 1 day a week for weeks.

When I read something like that, I think that the person saying that is out of touch with how it really works, thinks that they are good at suggesting ideas [for others but not actually doing any of it themselves]. And, perhaps get frustrated that no one actually follows through with all the good suggestions being offered to them.


abbyh said…

Nutty -

I hope you are ok.
xxxxx said…
Sandie said...
Yep, looks like he is sitting in the utility section of the mansion (wherever they are squatting or burning through Harry's inheritance).

Can your family live (thrive not just survive) on £2.3 million annually? Tax free!!!! Because Charles is paying this to Megs and Harry. Out of the income he gets from the Cornwall Duchy.
Harry and Megs can do without Hollywood money making projects, just so long as The Bank of Dad is forking over a few million each year of his Cornwall Duchy income.
_____________

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/harry-meghan-still-receive-duchy-3753971
Rebecca English, the Daily Mail’s royal writer, posted on Twitter: “Harry and Meghan will not receive any further public funding but will continue to receive funds from the Prince of Wales privately.”

ITV News royal editor Chris Ship added: “Prince Charles will continue to fund Harry and Meghan from his private income from the Duchy of Cornwall - no clarification on how much that will be.”

However, a number of royal correspondents have pointed out that Harry and Meghan will still receive an annual sum, privately given by Prince Charles from the Duchy of Cornwall.

Emily Andrew, royal correspondent for The Sun, said that last year Harry and William shared around £5 million of Duchy money with an estimated £2.3 million going to Harry and Meghan.
lizzie said…
@Genia wrote

>>>To the Sussexes, anyone can just log onto some dinky website and with a few hours of "training" become a mental health professional. Don't have to go through years of postgraduate study and mandatory number of hours actually working with mental health patients, just go the Doria route (still don't know how she got her master's in social work credentials without a bachelor's degree)<<<

I was also shocked H&M suggested getting trained online as a mental health counselor while self-isolating over the next few weeks or months. To be fair to Doria though, apparently she did earn a bachelor's degree in 2010. But yes, at least in the US, at a minimum a master's degree and a certain number of hours of supervised practice (usually in the 1000's) are required to get a license to practice. Very few (if any) states will license applicants whose training was *entirely* online. Most have a mandatory requirement for program length. For example in my state, becoming a licensed professional counselor in the mental health area requires completion of 60 semester hours of graduate study at a regionally accredited university. That's not something one can casually enroll in at the drop of a hat in March.

It just shows me how little they actually know about their mental health platform. Of course, I said that about Will and Kate in the early days of "Heads Together" too as it seemed they were saying "just talk to somebody, anybody, and it will help." That's not always true.

The first IG site H&M cite in their post, crisistextline https://www.instagram.com/crisistextline/?hl=en

may do good work but it looks like a Pinterest version of the mental health profession.
Portcitygirl said…
Just saw our future Monarchs out doing what they do best! Article up on DM.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Lizzie

You have made a very important point. To become a qualified counselor you would need many hours of study plus some practice under guidelines of a professional.

Harry and his former actress wife know nothing about subjects they are talking about. Poorly qualified "couch-trained" person can do significant harm to a person with fragile mental state that made him or her seek help in first place.

I am astonished at their complete ignorance, disregard to the safety of others, hypocrisy and shameless attention seeking.
Hikari said…
According to a current People article posted today, “Meghan and Harry Speak Of Loneliness During Isolation”.

In the feed this was directly underneath a People article detailing the tragic passing of an NBC News crewman due to Coronavirus. This veteran employee had a family who loved him and was beloved by the entire NBC family.

Clamoring for equal Air time, MeGain’s PR Demands that we acknowledge their “loneliness”...In the Vancouver mansion with their millions of dollars.

Well we’ve been wondering for a year and a half now, what was it going to take to bring Meg down? I think the coronavirus is taking care of that for us. I am also never going to condescend to click on another People magazine article or look at another issue. The hacks that accept Meg’s money to print her Self-absorbed drivel while people are dying in the thousands deserves to go bankrupt.
Nutty Flavor said…
William is doing exactly what he should be doing, from my point of view.

Now we’ve heard from the Queen too. Just waiting on Charles.
KCM1212 said…
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KCM1212 said…
Hear, hear @Hikari!

QueenWhitby said…
Nutty I'm wondering if Charles has come down with Covid, given that he was sitting across from Prince Albert last week, and he has been confirmed to have the virus. The incubation period is about right....
SirStinxAlot said…
Well this is an odd story to put out right now...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157327316650805&id=9034820804&anchor_composer=false
Ava C said…
Just saw a comment from a Meghan sugar about Anne Glenconner in the DM (Princess Margaret's lady-in-waiting, childhood friend of both PM and the Queen and author of a brilliant recent autobiography), asking someone to shut this old trout up. One of the worst aspects of sugars is their complete disengagement from anyone unlike themselves. No such thing as history. No such thing as experience. No such thing as real work. There's just today and their own reflections.
SirStinxAlot said…
How can Meghan and Harry complain of loneliness. They are surrounded by staff & security, they still have each other and a baby, cell phone service and internet service, tv (full satellite package I suspect), and we are still hearing them complain every day in the media. They are not lonely. They are self absorbed attention whores. Gimme a break.
Tea Cup said…
When the chips are truly down and duty called, Harry is nowhere to be found; cocooned in a fortress far, far away of his own making.

The boy will never live this travesty down. Harry will go down in the annals of history as useless and superfluous as his Great Uncle David.

Meanwhile, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge emerge as the royal face for the nation in its darkest hour.

My suspicion why we haven't seen nor heard from Charles is rooted in the fact Prince Albert (whom Charles met with 10 days earlier) has tested positive for Covid-19. The radio silence is most telling.
Tea Cup said…
Whoops--forgot to add the add'l Great to Great Uncle David.
CookieShark said…
@ Hikari:

People online also has a section called "Everything Meghan," and under that a section about HMTQ.

I believe this is her PR at work.

Barf.
Thank you @Wild Boar. Not entirely over the anxiety :)
YankeeDoodle said…
Everybody is going around and around like the proverbial hamster in a wheel, regarding Who What, Where, When and Why with the HAMS.

Let us pretend that H, born into the most famous family in the world, living as a billionaire with palaces, vacations, private everything, even, say, a gold toilet, and born with everybody giving him everything he wants, is just H. He does not want to do ir be anything that normal people go through in life. However - His family has teachers fired for complaining about helping Harry cheat at exams; the free press is not allowed to report what Americans know about his disgraces in everything, from wearing a Nazi uniform, and always caught doing a “Heil Hitler” to people who just do not ‘get” that he likes his rich Jewish friends; his disastrous time with American troops; calling Army officers “Pakis” over and over. H gets into physical fights too many times to count; at least one pub (near the Lanesborough Hotel) refuses him entrance due to destruction and hitting innocent people; Harry is a PROBLEM that his family brush under the red carpets. His relatives smile in public when he is around, but basically think he is one step from disaster. It does not help that his father builds a disco and bar in his Highgrove mansion to make sure H, and William, do not get into American newspapers again.

H, never a spare, loses his mother from a speeding drunk driver. Many people lose loved ones in auto accidents; Laura Bush, wife of President George Bush, was having a fun time in the car she was driving as a teenager, ran a stop sign, and killed her high school boyfriend. Terrible things happen, but Harry thinks he is so special, and even though he said he has no memories of his mum, but wants money paid to him forever. Why is H so special? Is he a Holocaust survivor?

So here we are, with H marrying an American woman, whom he should have stayed away from. H then decides he will get back at everybody who gave him everything. He literally starts sucking his thumb in public. He marries M, a not very special person in any way, just like H. But HAMS decide to act, talk, react, treat and in every way be low class twits. This is where the Royal family lost their way.

After holding hands and pushing M in front of H, their family should have said one more time, and you both will be put in time-out. Instead, things get worse. It becomes a joke between the two unkind, stupid, drug, alcohol and liars that wow! We can insult all the British people, and even though H loves his Nazis, we can call everybody racists. Wow! What else? Spend millions. Pad a stomach and hold it up the entire time, unless it wiggles or falls to the knees. Meanwhile, plot about leaving. Gee, the HAMS thought they were Smat, like Fredo. And though the royal family says they have the long pic, terrible damage is being done to the one thousand year old institution (without the royal family, nobody would give half a damn about GB. Really. (No matter what the French say, they never had a British royal family).

After all the deep cuts to an institution; deliberate hatred shown to family members; lies and incredible disrespect shown to the Monarch; what happens? Nothing. What has to be done, during these awful times, should be an announcement that Charles and the Queen are giving funds that used to go to family me,bers are now going to food banks; Harry will no longer be funded by Charles, and William will receive half the money as before; H and M will live off the tens of millions H has from his multiple trust funds. H will move his family to a very small home somewhere in Canada, to use only one fourth of police money. Any announcements by H or M, any Omid Scobie planted stories, costing tens of thousands of dollars from British taxpayers, will be the last one. All money from taxpayers used to buy PR stuff, or to sue the press, will be from H and M funds. Tens of millions of dollars us enough.

Just treat H as one treats any middle-aged nasty, kick in the mouth brat who dares to say he is mistreated.

Unknown said…
@Nutty Until we hear from PC, I will be worried that Charles’ health is genuinely compromised. I suspected coordination with PM Johnson was why there was a delay in response from HMTQ and the Cambridges. They had to make sure it was a united front and certain things were addressed before they did their part.
YankeeDoodle said…
@charade

Let us hope Charles or Camilla get ill.
Vince said…
Cambridges are just burying the Harkles now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8135871/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-visit-London-Ambulance-Service-111-call-centre.html

Future king and queen on site and helping morale in real time. Meanwhile you have the two losers holed-up in the far corner of Canada doing instagram postings.

Big contrast.

Just like sports stars and other celebrities are shown to be unnecessary in these times of crisis, the Harkles are similarly not needed, nor wanted.

Glad to see that the Cambridges are continuing to widen the gulf that separates them from the ne'er-do-wells of the family. Will and Kate are setting the example, and everyone in the public can see how the Harkles just don't quite stack up.
Vince said…
Also, Kate looks great in that pant suit. It's tasteful but also stylish and attractive. It's not hard to defeat Meg in the fashion fight, but Kate is definitely far ahead on that scoreboard. And she's not cheapening herself while doing so.
Jdubya said…
@Yankee Doodle? are you saying you want PC & Camilla get ill? if so, you should be ashamed of yourself wishing something bad to anyone. It's called Karma and it will come back at you. I'm tired of people wanting negative things to happen to others. Disgusting behavior
KCM1212 said…
The Harkle camp is getting desperate, although I continue what Rex is getting out of this aside from some publicity.
The court date must be fast approaching

_-------++++++++++++
Meghan Markle's Former Co-Star Said He Was Offered Money to Lie About Her
"It was a lot of money man, I think they offered me like $70,000."

By Kimberly Truong In Style
Mar 20, 2020 @ 10:00 am

U.K. tabloids have been a big part of why Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have stepped back from their royal duties — and, it sounds like, for good reason.

During a recent podcast interview, the Duchess of Sussex's former co-star, Simon Rex, said that he was offered money from several British tabloids to lie about their relationship.

Back when Meghan was an actress, she and Rex both appeared on a TV show called Cuts in 2005. Rex said on the Hollywood Raw podcast that “Nothing happened. We never even kissed. We hung out once in a very non-datey way. She was just someone I had met on a TV show and we got lunch. That was the extent of it."

"When that story broke, a couple British tabloids offered to pay me a lot of money to say a lie that we actually hooked up," he said. I said no to a lot of money because I didn’t feel right lying and f–king up the royal f–king family."

Rex didn't name the tabloids in question, but said, "It was a lot of money man, I think they offered me like $70,000."

In May 2018, shortly before Meghan and Harry's wedding, The Sun ran an alleged exclusive interview with Rex, in which he supposedly said Meghan turned down his requests for a second date.
Last year, Meghan and Harry announced they were taking legal action against several British tabloids in light of stories they say were untrue — including false claims about her background, her relationship with estranged father Thomas Markle, renovations at Frogmore Cottage, and more.

If Rex's claim is true (and it does seem to line up with the tabloids' M.O.), is it any wonder why Meghan and Harry have attempted to distance themselves from the scrutiny?

-----------

In Style is a Meghan rag
KCM1212 said…
*can't see, not continue

That is so annoying
xxxxx said…
****** A perfectly Lovely girl. There is no justice, as in unappreciative Megsy getting the insanely lavish Royal wedding, while Beatrice's wedding is scrambling to take place. What a shame, but it is hard to be concerned about a royal wedding when I guess we all have bigger problems today. What with the virus, self isolations, crashing stock markets and economies shuttered and heading south. It's so bad that Trump just shut down Mar-A-Lago, he shut down the bars and restaurants in his hotels.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8136915/Curse-Beatrices-wedding-Sunk-election-Andrews-TV-interview-Megxit-coronavirus.html

The curse of Beatrice's wedding: Princess's nuptials were sunk by the election, then came Andrew's car crash TV interview and Megxit - and now, the virus has struck and the big day's in turmoil again
By ALISON BOSHOFF FOR THE DAILY MAIL

When they got engaged in September, Princess Beatrice and Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi released a sweet, starry-eyed statement.

It ran: 'We can't wait to actually be married.'

Unfortunately, they're going to have to wait a little longer.

This week they indefinitely delayed their wedding reception — a lavish affair due to be held on May 29 — which was to have seen a throng of A-listers raise a toast to the happy couple on the lawns of Buckingham Palace.

Friends say restrictions on large gatherings, and the fear of the impact of coronavirus on the older generation, made the decision inevitable. Now the couple are deciding what they will do.

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