People Magazine - whose owners have just asked staff to take a big pay cut - has put its name behind tonight's documentary on the little-watched American broadcast network CW.
The documentary, "Harry & Meghan: A Royal Rebellion" will for nearly two hours on Wednesday, April 22, not counting ad breaks.
Here's the program description:
"From their captivating love story, to their shocking exit from royal life, the world has been fascinated with every twist and turn in the romantic real-life drama of Harry and Meghan. A team of full time, royals-focused PEOPLE reporters in New York and London break down the ins-and outs of all things royal, offering new updates and insights into the couple who have thrown out the royal playbook."
It must be rather hard to produce the final cut of a documentary when the main figures - who had promised to live a quiet, private life - keep coming up with new idiocies every day.
Let's discuss the new documentaries, along with Meg and Harry's "private" Zoom call to the Queen on her birthday and the upcoming hearing in Meg's lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday.
The documentary, "Harry & Meghan: A Royal Rebellion" will for nearly two hours on Wednesday, April 22, not counting ad breaks.
Here's the program description:
"From their captivating love story, to their shocking exit from royal life, the world has been fascinated with every twist and turn in the romantic real-life drama of Harry and Meghan. A team of full time, royals-focused PEOPLE reporters in New York and London break down the ins-and outs of all things royal, offering new updates and insights into the couple who have thrown out the royal playbook."
It must be rather hard to produce the final cut of a documentary when the main figures - who had promised to live a quiet, private life - keep coming up with new idiocies every day.
Let's discuss the new documentaries, along with Meg and Harry's "private" Zoom call to the Queen on her birthday and the upcoming hearing in Meg's lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday.
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Regarding her constant practice of creating distractions on social media to take the spotlight off of the BRF. I was thinking about Louis’ birthday and imagined how happy W&K must be. This kid looks like he’s a total charmer. And does it really matter if she pulls one of her stunts? As private people with a two-year-old son, whatever crap Markle pulls won’t detract from them celebrating another milestone in their marriage. It says more about Markle than it does about either W&K. And the one huge failing about all of Markle’s PR stunts is that she must make them all about her. The shots of Louis with his marvelous hands covered in paint is that the bigger message is about the NHS.
THIS is what good PR is all about. Had Markle done a public service announcement about the virus that didn’t show HER, but had links to food banks (with shots of food bank personnel NOT her) or other creditable organizations that are actually helping virus patients and their families (with NO images of herself), then it would go a long way into rehabilitating her. But no. She has to have that pap shot, butt pads and all.
The more this saga goes on without a “real” siting of Archie, the more I think this child does not exist. I’ve always been on Team Surrogate, and only a few toes in the “not real” waters, but now I’m happily splashing away as I butterfly my way across the pool. I cannot imagine, given Markle’s marked jealousy of Kate and her beautiful brood, that Markle wouldn’t have an insta devoted to Archie, with daily shots and videos of him, all with the aim of merching every thing he wears, including the brand of diapers. I can see the headlines now: Fit for a King!
I'll also put moderation on when I go to bed this evening, just in case.
Their last chance is really his "birthday" May 6.
If we don't see a new shot of the three Sussexes together at that point, it's going to be hard to sell a happy family narrative.
Personally, my money is on a surrogate child that does not live with them and may be being raised under a different name. Whether or not this child has their DNA, or is the same child shown in South Africa, I don't know.
@lucy You don't give an account of the bullying. You simply copy and paste the URL of the poster into their form.
@Lt. Nyota Uhura I guess I owe you a keyboard. I used to think pizza could solve every problem. I guess not. Le sigh.
Same as @wizardwench @Nutty @Charade on Team Surrogate. I think that if/when that news were to leak, with proof, she would be completely abandoned. One does not use a child like this. Ever. And all those lies... no way to spin that.
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Add me in as well. The baby actually looks like it could be theirs, but it either had to be A) IVF (which doesn't happen that incredibly fast, especially with an older mom) or B) surrogate. I go with B) because of the superhuman squatting, incredible folding/falling/moving bump, wearing 6-inch stilettos everywhere, etc.
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@charade -- Aww, my keyboard will survive :) And you're wrong, pizza DOES solve everything, LOL
Sure, let me know the time stamps of deletions.
INTRO and PART 1
It’s Megxit, the first 100 days — are you missing them yet?
It was the first great shock of 2020: the Sussexes going rogue. Now, as their awfully big adventure hits a milestone, Hilary Rose tracks the renegade royals
Hilary Rose
January 8
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex announce they are to step down as senior royals. Instead, they will “carve out a progressive new role” for themselves within the royal family and continue to support the Queen. Nation feels sad and asks if this translates roughly as: “We’ll turn up if it’s black tie and tiaras in central London. If it’s a wet Wednesday in Wigan, forget it.”
January 14
Stormzy says we’ve all been beastly to Meghan. Nation reminds itself that it went to Windsor 18 months ago to line the streets and cheer, and feels sadder. See also Brixton, Nottingham, Edinburgh, Cardiff ...
January 19
Prince Harry explains how his life was so intolerable, he had no choice but to quit. Nation looks at national flood emergency, widespread use of food banks and its empty current account, and confirms it would be happy to have a crack at being royal instead.
January 23
Oprah says everyone’s been beastly to Meghan and we should all shut up.
January 30
Meghan’s half-sister, Samantha, fails to shut up. “Without [their father],” she says from her home in America, “she’d be a waitress.”
February 21
Harry and Meghan are ordered by the Palace to remove the word “royal” from their sprauncy new Sussex Royal branding.
February 26
Prince Harry flies nearly 5,000 miles from Canada to the UK for a conference on sustainable travel. He tells delegates in Edinburgh: “Just call me Harry.”
February 27
Canada stops the direct debit helping to pay for their security. In the coming weeks, a government minister says, the assistance will cease “in keeping with their change in status”.
March 5
At an awards ceremony in London, Meghan’s first public appearance in the UK for two months, she’s photographed looking like several million dollars in a blue Victoria Beckham dress, grinning happily at Prince Harry in the rain. Nation looks at them and thinks: “Must you go? Is it really so bad?”
March 6
Meghan makes a “secret” trip to Robert Clack School in Dagenham to mark International Women’s Day, where she asks the assembled pupils to “value the women in your lives”. Invited to the podium to discuss why men should be involved in the fight for women’s equality, the head boy, Aker Okoye, is greeted with a hug, before taking the microphone and saying: “She really is beautiful, innit?” Photos and videos of the “secret” trip are later posted to the Sussex Royal Instagram account, in a post urging followers to “uplift one another”.
March 9
Huge row erupts about the core principle at the heart of the royal family: status. Specifically who sits when and where at the Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey. The Cambridges are due to process in with Queen. The Sussexes are told to sit it out. The issue is resolved when it’s agreed that none of them will take part in the procession, they’ll all be sitting when the Queen walks in. Nation considers the possibility that spending the rest of her life seated on the sidelines while William and Kate take centre stage might not be what Meghan had in mind. Today, Meghan wears something brand new and bright green, Kate wears the royal equivalent of “this old thing” and completely, utterly and totally blanks her brother-in-law and his wife.
March 11
Prince Harry is duped into thinking two Russians who call him up on his mobile are the Swedish climate-change activist Greta Thunberg and her dad. He talks candidly about how separate he is from his family, and disparagingly about the elected president of the country to which he will shortly be moving. Buckingham Palace declines to comment.
March 26
Prince Charles, aged 71, tests positive for coronavirus. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge release a video of their three young children clapping for NHS carers.
March 27
Harry, Meghan and Archie fly by private jet from Canada to Los Angeles to start a new life in the midst of a global pandemic. Taken to task in the past for his use of private jets while championing climate change, Harry replies that he only did it occasionally and only then for security reasons. Never, for example, because the border’s about to be closed to non-essential travel, there aren’t any commercial flights, you’re in a bit of a hurry, and have you flown commercial recently? Ick.
March 29
Donald Trump says on Twitter that the US won’t pay for their security protection. “I am a great friend and admirer of the Queen and the United Kingdom,” he says pointedly, adding that when it comes to Meghan and Harry’s security, “they must pay!”.
March 30
The Sussex Royal social media accounts close down with the mysterious words “You’ve been great!”
“We are confident that every human being has the potential and opportunity to make a difference,” they add. “Together we can lift each other up to realise the fullness of that promise.” Nation tries and fails to understand what they’re on about and gives up.
March 31
Harry and Meghan officially step down as working members of the royal family.
April 3
Meghan’s voiceover for a Disney film about elephants is released, after Prince Harry was overheard pitching the chief executive of Disney for work at a film premiere last year.
April 5
The Queen delivers the speech of a lifetime, ending with the words: “We should take comfort that while we may have more still to endure, better days will return: we will be with our friends again; we will be with our families again; we will meet again.” Nation reaches for the tissues.
April 6
Harry and Meghan launch their new brand. It will be called Archewell, they announce, after the Greek word for “source of action”. In the future they promise they will be doing “something of meaning, something that matters”. Nation looks up from worrying about whether the prime minister is going to die and the country is going bankrupt, to say: “Do keep us posted.”
Easter Sunday, April 12
Meghan and Harry start helping to deliver food to the needy on the other side of the world. In due course, photographs of them doing so, hand-in-hand and wearing face masks, are published worldwide.
Buckingham Palace publishes the Queen’s soothing Easter message, in which she states that coronavirus will not overcome us, and calmly encouraging hope in times of darkness.
April 17
One hundred days since Megxit. Princess Anne tells Vanity Fair that certain members of the younger generation are trying to reinvent the wheel, and describes herself as “the boring old fuddy-duddy at the back saying, ‘Don’t forget the basics.’”
April 19, morning
The UK coronavirus death toll tops 15,000 as the country enters its fifth week of lockdown and a 99-year-old man with a walking frame single-handedly becomes a reason to be cheerful in a harrowing world. In Los Angeles, Prince Harry says that things in the UK aren’t so bad. “They’re better than we are led to believe,” he tells a podcast. An eminent scientist describes his comments as “outrageous”.
April 19, evening
The couple release a statement saying they will have no more dealings with UK tabloids, whom they accuse of publishing “distorted, false or invasive” stories. Since they are at present embroiled in legal proceedings with several of the publications listed, this could probably have been taken as read. The first court hearing is due to take place by video link on Friday.
Don't go! I would miss you. You're being in the PNW reminds of better times drinking coffee and being mesmerized by the mountain
@Lucy
If said poster started in on you, you'd understand (now I will have to go talk to my priest....)
@Nutty, I rarely have time to post these days but wanted to express support for whatever extra hoops you want to implement that will ensure our conversations here can remain as focused and reasoned as possible...and that our posters can carry on without fear of bullying.
I really agree. Do what you need to do, Nutty, to keep our little playground safe. And thank you for creating it.
I’m eleventy billion behind so excuse me if someone has said this by now about the “Greatest CW Dicumentary Ever Made,” but how do they say this within the same hour of TV:
*Meghan and Trevor broke up because [maintaining more than a decade-long] distance relationship is hard.”
*Meghan and Harry [started and evolved to marriage proposals in quick time via] long distance relationship was worth it.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-3577#post-57067501
Cognitive dissonance has always been a major feature of the Harkle soap opera.
I'm so relieved that story isn't true! Thanks for clarifying. It just seemed wrong on so many levels, the least of which would be the absolute contempt for the BRFs rulrs.
Elle, could you come back under a pseudonym? At least until we know our troll is gone?
We all know she has burned her bridges here. Between the threats and the lipstick alley stuff, she's history. Very sad.
Whew! I'm going to have another cup of coffee and look at a picture of Rainier!
Same as @wizardwench @Nutty @Charade on Team Surrogate. I think that if/when that news were to leak, with proof, she would be completely abandoned. One does not use a child like this. Ever. And all those lies... no way to spin that.
I'm team Surrogate and have been from the start. I know too many women in their mid to late 30s trying to get pregnant. It just doesn't happen that fast (especially after a life time of "assumed" birth control). And IVF doesn't always stick the first time (in my experience, it usually doesn't work the first time in older women). I am not a medical professional, just observing.
And on the subject of Archie: one thing I do know is that babies (as soon as they start to cruise) want other babies around. They don't necessarily interact, its called parallel play, but they do want and need them around. It would appear Archie doesn't ever get a chance to be around/interact with other children. If they keep him sequestered like that they will stunt his emotional growth. And he will be the same or worse than his parents. So sad that a human being will be used as a bargaining chip and a money making opportunity.
I hope that made sense.
(Sorry can't find who said that but...)
Odd? Unexpected? I'd say it's very interesting!
There's been a smell of fraud since the start – was it HarryMarkle who first sniffed it on the air?
We’re au fait with `psychological fraud’ (`I’m such a fraud! Ha ha!’) but there are other ones, the criminal type.
There’s basic fraud and also fraudulent conversion, involving benefit to a 3rd party . Hmm.
We've already mentioned blackmail. Have we said money laundering?
Not forgetting `matrimonial fraud’.
Not of course that I’m insinuating anything, just speculating about what might be of interest here for a fraud expert.
This should be fun. I do hope that, if there are any reporting restrictions, they will be lifted.
Interesting:
https://www.prweek.com/article/1680760/harry-meghans-%E2%80%9Cpetulant%E2%80%9D-tabloids-attack-%E2%80%9Cout-step%E2%80%9D-public-mood
Thank you for the IS A inormation. It's nice to know you've got our backs over there, esp Nutty and Elle.
@Sandie thanks for the Times article. Great snark!!
Start with newlyweds moving to KP near W&K. Meg was accepted by all. The Queen took a shine to Meg, even invited her on training - they have real chemistry.
then show starts making jokes about titles - past, present and future. Then talks about the titles don't mean who gets the cash. Sussex may have the titles but they don't get the cash. and then..........
.."what else Meghan doesn't have is legal custody of her son Archie ". (yes, they said that, i am quoting) According to law 1717, the queen actually has governance over all her grandchild, even will & kate's. That has absolutely No Relevance today. She also makes the call on what members of the family can get on to a plane.
(me - adding in the part about Legal custody of Archie surprised me - people on this blog have been talking about that.) It came up about 45 minutes in to the program.
then on to the first real tour/Australia - meghan shines, instand hit, bonding with people and children, giving speeches "which is something we hadn't seen Kate do before" (yes, another dig at Kate). Megan did it with such ease, much like Diana, echoes of Diana, and like Diana in another way - world fashion icon.
Flashes between pics of Meg & Di. Both are setting trends in fashion industry. Lots of pics of Di.
2019 Megan named most power fashion icon. "The Meghan Effect", great style, anything Meg worn, sales went off the board.
Australia Pregnant - massive news, they put up walls for privacy from start. Kept plans private. Unlike Kate, Meghan made the major changes. Kate's plans with the crowd, everything public, media etc. Meghan said NO. No way was she showing off the baby, walking in to the crowd. "Kate felt it was her duty" "Meghan felt it wasn't part of her duty. Meghan, no involveent with the press, not public. It was THEIR baby, not the public's.
Alot of respect to Harry when he refused to give photo's to press. They moved to Frogmore, they felt like prisoners at KP. Could not wait to get out.
2.4 million of taxpayer money for Frogmore and public wanted quid pro quo (showing inside, showing their life, showing Archie) and Harry & Meg refused.
Then straight to Megs in Royal Training Camp. Curtsy training, sitting position, no crossed legs, afternoon tea, proper way to hold cup etc. Then Megs started tearing up the Royal Ruke Book. She would bend and break the rules as she pleased.
Guest edited vogue - they felt it was too political and she should do it. Did not like Meg getting outside advice, didn't go over well with insiders.
new post
They felt she was stuffy and different. Some fear she is something other than she presents herself. She and Harry "do what's right for us, not others"
then a switch to other Royal Rebels - Margaret, all her different boyfriends, island of Mistique, partying, marrying a guy 17 yrs younger. Then a big comparison to Princess Louise - the mess, she's a feminist, got married & moved to Canada.
Then the Huge Betrayal by Meg and Harry by filing suit against papers. Love/hate relationship with press. Same as Diana who used the press (video of her telling her story). And how Diana barred innermost thoughts and how Harry & Megs are doing the same.
Meg's friends rallied around her and talked about Meg - her inner circle talked about the globally bullying of Megs, false reports. Even how Meg wanted the church sprayed for smell and Meg is so religious and she would never disrespect the church that way. It was called a Diva moment and it was not.
Then to private letter to father. Media crossed the line. Harry denounced the media's treatment of his wife. Tabloids were agressive blah blah blah.
Comparing coverage of Megs life to coverage of Kate's. Poor M has feel the sharp edge of coverage. Not long ago, Pregnant Kate "tenderly cradles her baby bump" but Meghan "why can't MM keep her hands off her bump? Is it pride, vanity, acting or a new age of bonding technique"? But Kate and her morning sickness cure "william gifted with avocado for pregnant duchess" but M - beloved avocado linked to human rights abroad and drought
Then suddenly - "one thing for sure, pics of Royal Family mean cash. Watching out for the long lens".
one more break
Cracks between family members. Dynamics are changing. division between william and harry. william confounded his brother Harry by asking if he was sure meghan was the right gal for him. Went down badly. William and Harry relationship never able to heal from that conversation.
Then they start exploring the history of the Heir and the Spare. (through the ages)
Kate and Meghan have their own issues - so different - everyone expected them to be best friends but they grew up differently. Tabs are calling them frenemies, making crazy accusations. Setting them up against each other.
Poor Meg has been so isolated from everyone. Her friends and his family. Kate is not able to be that support. Harry & William are not talking much anymore.
tour to So. Africa - that's when H&M reached breaking point. Recorded documentary - 1st time being totally honest. Talked about isolation and no support from family. M struggling, feeling vulnerable. No one asking if she is okay - not the "peoplefans" but not the family either. Royal Family not there to support them at all.
They are looking for a happy & authentic life and then they make the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT
And that is when I turned it off for a much needed break.
About 40 minutes left. I will continue letter if you'd like
As well as the philanthropy business. She does not donate large amounts of money. I don't believe she has much money, hence the panic over paying for security.
The ridiculous article out lately that alleged she didn't grow up with much. She attended private school, correct? She had fancy clothes, bags, and a car I think. How did she not grow up with not much?
Thanks for the blow by blow.
I guess I can forgive an American company for not understanding the "Monarch has custody of grandchildren" is a non-issue. But it's not forgiveable to be so clueless as to think Archie and the Cambridge kids are The Queen's grandchildren. Morons. If nothing else, while it's not impossible since men can procreate until late in life, how many 94-year olds have toddler grandchildren???
Someone (I apologise for not remembering who exactly) posted earlier that there is nothing about the Harkles in today's DM, in spite of it being Prince Louis' birthday - and we all know how MM loves to overshadow anyone in the Cambridge family.
Perhaps the reason for this non-show of the Harkles is due to them shunning the popular tabloids and maybe this is the payback - I think that maybe the tabloids concerned DO have a Harkles PR piece but are withholding it just to spite JH & MM and they are letting PL have his day without the Harkles trampling all over it.
Do you think this may be happening more and more in the immediate future, ie the Big Four using passive aggressiveness against the Harkles to teach them a lesson?
@Jdubya -- Thanks for taking one for the team! A lot of us, including me, can't bear to watch a minute of the Gruesome Twosome.
I guess People has burned their bridges with Kensington Palace.
Hi, Nutties - hope you are all well, Elle especially.
Someone (I apologise for not remembering who exactly) posted earlier that there is nothing about the Harkles in today's DM, in spite of it being Prince Louis' birthday - and we all know how MM loves to overshadow anyone in the Cambridge family.
Perhaps the reason for this non-show of the Harkles is due to them shunning the popular tabloids and maybe this is the payback - I think that maybe the tabloids concerned DO have a Harkles PR piece but are withholding it just to spite JH & MM and they are letting PL have his day without the Harkles trampling all over it.
Do you think this may be happening more and more in the immediate future, ie the Big Four using passive aggressiveness against the Harkles to teach them a lesson?
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Could be, and I do hope so -- I checked all of the Big Four, and none of them has anything about the Harkles, at least not on their main pages.
My thanks too for watching the show. It will be interesting to see what the ratings are.
Generally, not too many people are interested in watching propaganda, unless of course they're forced to.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8249581/Baseball-jersey-baby-Archie-pop-book-Queen-gifts-given-royals.html
https://www.newsweek.com/what-expect-meghan-markles-first-court-showdown-mail-sunday-experts-say-case-was-1499851
"The Mail on Sunday's QC is a brilliant cross-examiner. Even if she wins the case on a technicality she's going to lose the war. She's going to have huge lumps taken out of her reputationally."
Random question -
I was wondering of Thomas and Doria were at Meghan's first wedding. Anyone know?
All I could find was about the "wheelbarrow races", "beer pong," and giving out weed as party favors.
Thomas was definitely at her wedding to Trevor. I'm guessing Doria was too but if I'm wrong someone will come along and put me right! :-)
https://www.ok.co.uk/royal/meghan-markle-prince-harry-homesick-21911581
I can see why "Kneepads" is promoting MM, beyond what she probably pays them for this over-the-top publicity stunt. All of their correspondents seems to be in their early twenties, so, obviously, that is where their readership basis is. That's the same demographic that MM wants to appeal to. None of the correspondents appeared to be very bright, and that fake British accent was so annoying. The graphics were juvenile. The entire show would appeal to age 20 and down to pre-teens.
What I did find interesting, is that Frito Lay's ads during the show specifically said that their trying to help out curing the COVID crisis was not to promote their brand, as promoting brands are not what is needed during this crisis. The Harkles should take heed of this.
@Elle, Sorry you're having so much trouble here with just one person. Hopefully, we can find a good solution. In the meantime, please continue to post.
Here is the chart showing so .... https://i.imgur.com/wJL0hA0l.png
And good commentary at LSA
To say her posts were shocking is such an understatement...that person was as critical of MM as any of us!
Funny bit, I asked her a while back if that picture she used as her avi was her. Before she answered I commented that it sure looked like Carol Baskin. She then commented that her avi was her own photo. Anyone who is at all aware of current events *knows* that’s that nutcase Carol Baskin of Big Cats Rescue! I thought that very strange...(‘strange’ is not the half of it) but given what she wrote on LSA I guess it should be no surprise. I did get a kick out of the responses she got to her lying tale..lol
Anyway, you are fabulous, Elle, don’t let her get you down. xo 🐛
Excuse me for being stupid, I am normally pretty good with using forums.
How the fluff do I reply to anyone?
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Two ways that most of us use --
1) Copy from the person's name on down (as I did above) -- paste into the new comment box -- leave intact if you wish, or delete everything but the relevant part you want to answer to
2) Type in @Doll R Bill (or whomever) in the new comment box and make your statement
Blogger is one platform that doesn't use reply buttons.
Wonder if this works
If Harry Markle's blog story is true and she indeed pretended to be her own PR person and went into an abusive rant that resulted in cancellation of the photoshoot, then her mental issues are worse than narcissistic personality disorder.
Don't know what they are but living with person displaying such behavior must be hell. I have no love for Harry but sort of pity him, he is walking on eggshells all the time.
Lets hope Archie didn't inherit her mental gene.
Just a tip :)
Hmmm....person who pretends to be several different people and then goes on angry, abusive rants.
Could it be?
https://www.prweek.com/article/1680760/harry-meghans-“petulant”-tabloids-attack-“out-step”-public-mood
They're saying a lot of the same things we're saying, such as "#HarryandMeghan don’t seem to understand the basics of supply & (endless) demand. Tabs are going to fill their pages regardless of any cooperation. All this does is destroy any bargaining chips they may have had. Naive move..."
Can't be good for Sunshine Sachs to have their working methods questioned by their colleagues in the industry.
"I think Archie is under wraps because MM salivates at the idea of a 10M fee for a first birthday spread from People and OK a la the birth of Shiloh and then the Jolie Pitt twins."
That could be partly true now. But I think there was something else to the hiding of Archie from the start.
For way too many months M ran around bump-clutching, bump-thrusting and saying dumb things like "we're almost there" about her pregnancy (said at Christmas to a spectator during the church walk.)
But after her maternity leave began we started getting all the conflicting KP statements about what they would and wouldn't do. No hospital photo. Put-downs of Kate. No announcement of the birth for maybe as much as a week after the baby arrived. Home birth at Froggy Cott. Water birth. Private bonding time afterwards. Maybe no announcement for even two weeks after the birth. OK, labor and birth might be announced. Meghan apparently overdue but reported to be "serene." OK, start of labor will be announced (then wasn't until after the birth) Fast hospital delivery (5 hours labor?) and fast release of geriatric first-time mom (6-7 hours after birth.) Bizarre interview of Harry in the horse stable.
Something else was going on and probably still is. What I don't know.
I am in the surrogate camp as well and wondered if that that is going to be brought up in a roundabout way in the upcoming court case. That would be one way to get around a super injunction.
The whole avoidance of Archie by the media and the Royal family is so very curious. Charles' photo with Prince Louis was sweet and I rather doubt there will be such a photo with baby Archie.
Seems to me that there is no pr agency working with the Harkles. If Meghan had been doing her own pr on the sly in the past, as we learned may have been the case, then she wouldn't see - in her delusional mind - why she couldn't continue being the pr maven she thinks she is.
One of the experts quoted in the article, Mark Borkowski: "The latest move by Meghan and Harry is a breathtaking example of their tone-deafness. And they only have themselves to blame".
The Harkles will be eaten alive if this is the case.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11466809/prince-harry-meghan-markle-media-policy-dan-wootton/
Can someone provide a link to the cray cray commenter on LSA? I can't find it.
"The Queen and her delinquents". The comments are brutal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/queen-her-delinquents-103053596.html?bcmt=1
Moments in history that changed the world - Moon Landing, JFK assisination, seeing Kermit the Frogs legs and (you got it) Harry & Meg deciding to leave the RF. this one commentator said - i remember exactly where i was when i heard...... the biggest story of the decade. I can't even imagine the chaos at the palace on that day. The poor Queen, one of her favorite grandsons. the reason they went public quickly on their SussexRoyal was they learned the story had leaked to The Sun. They were forced in to releasing thier own state.
There had been rumors about them leaving previously but the announcement was a surprise.
Now to Charles & Camilla - Chuck and Cammy (yeah they said that) and how their "affairs" had raised eyebrows. H&M bombshell was pretty tame compared to that. Media into a frenzy on Megxit. They blamed the woman - Meg's fault. Even though H has expressed he's willing to leave since he was in 20s.
What they have been through, as a couple. Could they really just walk away? Would it bring down the Monarchy? After bombshell dropped - there was panic. Discussions ongoing. Meg left & went to Canada - The Queen was trying to do damage control. Charles/William/Harry/The queen met. within days Q announces decisions, supports them and gives blessing.
almost done - they are making me split this post
Then straight to money issues !!! Everyone wants to know where the money comes from.
Harry's money - 25 million, maybe more in the bank $ from Charles Duchey (farm money) every year in Harry's pocket approximately $2.5 million.
M - approximtely $5m she made herself. Harry has to pay back 3 million for Frogmore & Canada looking good for taxe purposes. 5-10% less than paying in UK.
How Royals make money Inheritance vs Sovegrein Grant vs Duchies
Sovegrein Grant is tax payer money - Harry got about $130,000 last year "just to leave the country".
Inheritance - Harry got about $10million from diana
The rest - from Duchy, 95% of his income is from charles
These 2 are media starlets - RF tried to put on great show that all is fine here. Monarchy is in a vulnerable position because they are inherited power. The Queen doles out presents including one to William - Lord High Commander to General Assembly Church in Scotland. The press dubbed the New Fab Four as William - Kate - Charles & Camilla.
TQ wantd to fix things - come out as united front - Kate stepped forward and gave speeches & appearances on things she knew, like motherhood. It was a great show. Proving the Monarchy is solid.
M&H cannot use the royal title and trademark SussexRoyal. No $ can be made off of Royal title. H&M move forward with new life. H makes speech showing No option but to move forward to a more peaceful life. W&M want to re-enforce their relationship but it will be different than before.
Support from all the celebrity friends for M&H (names a bunch of names). Jessica Mulrooney husband connection should be able to help with Visa Glitch because of his connections. Next chapter- the world is their oyster, they can do anything they want.
Vancouver Island - peaceful - staying at a friends mansion - going on walks - yoga, getting healthy. Meg familar with Canada, feels safe. Now Brand new territory - ways yo earn $. They need alot to maintain their lifestyle. Both are smart and talented.
Options? perhaps a clothing range - women empowerment - book deal. Harry already has deal with Oprah. M has her 1st voice over for Disney. They need to cash in on their celeb status - presentation for JP Morgan may have got them $1million for speech, rumor of lunch with J Lo and A Rod in Miami.
They do NOT want to disrespect the Queen in any way. But Harry & Meg are more famous now than they were before. Then throws in their joint net work right now is about $30 million
We are seeing a completely new chapter - friends & family come 1st. M&H do NOT feel beholden to the rules like Wm and Kate. Friend of Harry says - The royal Harry vs the Person Harry are very different people. Harry wants to "thrive". Meg's friends support them 100%.
Pap's are very controlled in Britain and coming to America, there are no rules. They want a presence in Canada and the UK but also LA. They want to create a more peaceful life. But they are still very much in the spotlight.
This is a New Age of Royals!!! They stood up for themselves. They have more choices and freedom. They did this for Archie and W&K's children may benefit from this too
And that folks - is T H E E N D I am so happy to be done with this.
I know who you are referring to and you made my day Nutty! I'll be laughing at this for a while. If true, Elle gets extra Starbucks for being in Kate's league.
I said all this with love.
I'm puzzled though by what was apparently said about Margaret:
"then a switch to other Royal Rebels - Margaret, all her different boyfriends, island of Mistique, partying, marrying a guy 17 yrs younger. Then a big comparison to Princess Louise - the mess, she's a feminist, got married & moved to Canada."
Beg pardon, or as we sometimes say, `Yer wot?'
Margaret was very fond of going to Mustique; she married Tony Armstrong Jones, who was a few months older than her, but had an affair with Roddy Llewellyn, who was 17 years younger then she was.
As for `Madge', that sounds more like Edna Everage's sidekick/bridesmaid. I wondered if it had been used by Private Eye but no:
“Queen Elizabeth II is often referred to as "Brenda", and the Prince of Wales as "Brian".[2] This is a result of the 1969 BBC documentary Royal Family, after which the magazine gave each member of the Royal Family working class nicknames, as though they were characters in a soap opera. The Duke of Edinburgh is "Keith", Princess Margaret was "Yvonne" and Diana, Princess of Wales was dubbed "Cheryl".[2]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_and_organisations_frequently_parodied_by_Private_Eye
Now Princess Louise (1848 –1939) is really interesting and worth an entire programme to herself, especially as she was Victoria's daughter, was allowed to be an art student, is said to have borne an illegitimate child, married the Marquis of Lorne (later 9th Dk of Argyll) was driven to having a window at KP bricked up to stop him sneaking off for homosexual dalliance and later went with him to Canada when he became Governor General.
Hence, presumably, Lake Louise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Louise,_Duchess_of_Argyll
The statue of Victoria at KP is attributed to her:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Queen_Victoria,_Kensington_Palace.
I really think it's pushing it to equate Princess Henry, Duchess of Sussex, with these redoubtable ladies of the Blood Royal. Comparisons can certainly be drawn between the lives of Margaret and Louise, especially when one considers the nature of society up to the the 1930s, then in the mid to late 20th century and that they had been brought up in the Royal family.
To compare our bete noire with these women just shows what a pipsqueak parvenu she is. Princess Louise's achievements would knock her into a cocked hat. Louise wins hands down.
ttps://uk.news.yahoo.com/meghan-markles-wedding-dress-designer-154024346.html
“She reveals that “purity and simplicity” were Meghan’s guiding principles when it came to the design of the dress…”
Purity & simplicity, don’t make me laugh.
“…paired with a veil embroidered with flowers representing the 53 countries of the Commonwealth...”
Pure hubris, I’ll grant you that. It referenced the Queen’s Coronation gown.
Have you seen the video of William with Stephen Fry? Produced by BBC.
William's actually a pretty good actor.
The piece is clever, funny, and well-produced. And I'm sure Wills is loving being an actor as creative vengeance. Will Megs be writhing with jealousy?
https://www.elle.com/uk/fashion/celebrity-style/a32249534/meghan-markle-wedding-dress-fitting-details-givenchy/
I was surprised to see Keller say today is the two-year anniversary of the final fitting for M's wedding gown. No wonder it didn't fit!
I'm sure when a final dress fitting is scheduled depends on the style of the dress, the bride's body and likelihood of weight change, and so on (and the cost of the dress!) But even with a bespoke dress, having the final fitting on April 23 for a May 19 wedding? Seems awfully early, especially for that style of dress.
I read somewhere that the reporters at the stable briefing speculated that PH had gone down to the stables to intercept Prince Philip before anyone else could. (Since PP gave up his driver's license, he's been riding by carriage from Sandringham to other royal estates.)
TCD has at least one source putting PP in the middle of everything the morning Archie was born. They described things behind the scenes as all hell breaking loose.
And, as usual, Markle has shot herself in the foot because I certainly won’t believe ANYTHING she puts out because of her previous inept and ridiculous photoshopped photographs she posted as “real.” She seems like she’s learned to scrap the meta data, even if it looks like Harry is standing in the middle of a lake! If I were three sheets to the wind, stumbling around from too many shots of tequila, I would have done a better job of photoshopping the majority of that nonsense she has posted. And I suck at photoshop.
Another thought occurred to me. This is such an issue with Harry Markle, but I’m wondering if Markle’s continuous disregard of protocol where she marches a head of Harry to shake hands with whomever, and how she drags him away from others because he seems to be getting all the attention, i.e., given her none? I wonder if he’s actually grateful and ceded his role to her. Whether he literally cannot stand being a royal anymore. The pomp. The rigid rules of who stands where. Who speaks when. Maybe he has chucked it all (apologies skippy). Maybe her real allure is that he’s found someone to free him from what he has found abhorrent for so many years. Except that he still wants to be a Prince and get all the $$$ and homage that goes with that. He just doesn’t want to shake all those hands and smile constantly. He doesn’t seem to realize that one goes with the other. You show respect to others and you get respect in return. It’s really simple, Harry. Stop being an idiot. But then I’m increasingly feeling like he’s really quite dim. He does not understand cause and effect.
There are many things that bother me, as an Anglophile royal family follower.. Why is Charles funding them, as the HAMS are worth over 30 million pounds (around $40?) as they themselves agreed on tv? When M came over for her stupendously stupidly expensive baby shower, she was in New York City for five or six days. The State Department leaked out just their cost of the “diplomatic visit” of M, and it was millions. What the State Department, Secret Service, New York State police and Bew York City police dealt with was partially given to the media. M made everybody passed off at her antics, her showboating, her trying to do a “Diana” at the back of the hotel, and her sealing of dozens of baggage, against Homeland Security laws, on her return to London. If I was a British citizen, or mainly a Cornish tenant of Charles, I would be up in arms over a penny given to these turncoats, who are trying to overthrow the Monarchy. H is a traitor, and M is his vehicle with her screaming about racism.
I’ve banned Prince Harry and Meghan’s PR spin but I’ll still back our royals (well, not Andrew):
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11466809/prince-harry-meghan-markle-media-policy-dan-wootton/
I'll wait until we hear the first news from today's court hearing and then put up a fresh post.
And @Nutty, the new thread is going to be fun. I hope the MoS unleashes some hell today.
@Elle I think we need to have a chat about the mechanics of secret identities;) Seriously I have no clue what is going on but I have your back, you are valued and I love your presence here:)
I have race's number but for the love of all that is good and pure cant figure hazard out. Is he on board or is he just so desperate for his own identity he is being led by her? I honestly don't know.
My opinion: He wants reconciliation with her, at any cost. He wants to see her, for her to be his 'bean' again. She knows this and, subconsciously, enjoys the power that gives her. At what stage will Meghan look at her father with trembling lip and tear-filled eyes and 'win him over'? Despicable? I really think she would do this, not as a master stroke (because her and Harry just seem to dig themselves deep holes when they try too control and manipulate and strategize) but because she seems to think she is living in a soap opera where she can write the script and any plot twist can be used, and the more outrageous, the higher the popularity and thus the bigger the pay cheque ... it is my only way to try to explain the huge cognitive dissonance that hangs around the woman like a dark cloud!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11466809/prince-harry-meghan-markle-media-policy-dan-wootton/
The jury's out on this one.
Harry Markle's early view was that he was her victim - and that's how it looked, judging from the photos that were posted. H with a hunted look, deeply anxious, shocked even. From what was known at the time, it seemed he was trapped.
As it's gone on, it's become less clear. H doesn't look as if he's `thriving', verging on self-destruction even, yet is apparently in cahoots with her.
Which one is enabling the other? Is it now folie a deux? Is he completely daft or has she infected him with her own brand of daftness?
It's a right carry-on but almost any explanation you can think of can be made to fit.
Apart from believing she was never pregnant, at least not in the way most people understand the term (weightless foetus? womb, membranes, fluids and foetus capable of being folded up like a Pac-a-Mac? entire gubbins falling to knee-level then bouncing back again, like someone bungee-jumping?) I haven't a clue what the reality is, except for a few minor points..
I believe the `Birth Certificate' was fraudulent (no authenticating stamp).
I believe the person who said, on what sounded like good authority, that the Tutu babe had been hired in RSA. Also that the child in the mountain'n'lake photo was little girl, daughter of his Turkish friend.
Apart from that, I have no idea if there is a child or not. If there is, he/she may or may not share all/any of their genes. At least 2 `Archie' appearances are best explained by a doll substitute. He may be in London, assuming he exists,or he may not. We don't know how much credence to give to tales of a custody battle.
I haven't a clue whether Welby baptised a real baby or not, or if he just hid in York on the day of the `christening'. The group photo wasn't merely photoshopped - I'd say it was completely fake. The babe was so much like his Dad on his christening day that I'd almost be prepared to lay a bet that the image has been taken from an unpublished photo of that occasion.
Only the Harkles know what happened in these cases, and they're not telling us. Not of course that they'd recognise the truth if it bit them
In Charlatan Duchess “Sussex in Popbitch”
DM & Sun paid 12K for photos from Coleman/Rayner.
An interesting article in Vanity Fair
How DM get their scoops on American dirt?
I know that sort of cognitive dissonance can happen.
The testimony of a subpoenaed witness can make it crystal clear that the accused is guilty but the witness then says he's innocent - none of it happened!
I saw it once in a different kind of case. The witness was desperate to maintain her relationship with the accused and keep him out of gaol. She failed.
Yes, it's about MM's power - she'd do anything to stay in control. Have we ever discussed how these horrible people twist everything you say?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-court-hearing-live-21919711
I have always had my doubts child on the Christmas photo and child with Harry on the lake are the same kid.
May be because black and white Christmas pic is so horribly distorted.
Something is not right.
(👆Meghan's legal team admits she has not spoken to Thomas Markle since the wedding day)
Link? @JoshuaRozernberg is a dead end.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-2.2215591/page-3588#post-57096062
Thomas Jnr told Express.co.uk that he met Trevor on several occasions and recalled his interactions with Meghan at their grandmother’s funeral.
He said: “I saw a side of Meghan, like scowling at him and him cowering like a puppy, doing what he’s told. And he worshipped the ground she walked on.
“I could not understand it, I mean this is a man who would have given her everything.
“And I’ve even talked to him after, on a couple of projects I was trying to put together, and he said ‘I’ll talk to you, but just don’t ever mention her name because I’ll hang up on you.’”
I had to dust off my Twitter account as I haven't been on it in centuries -- can anyone tell me whether I have to hit "refresh" from time to time, or does it refresh on its own??
Glad Mr. Rozenberg (who's a barrister, not just a lawyer) is live-tweeting. I'm reading his tweets with interest. Too bad this is only a hearing today, no witnesses -- but it will be interesting to see whether Markle's assertion that the MoS "had it in for her" gets ruled irrelevant (as it should be). The case is about copyright infringement/invasion of privacy.
Thanks in advance for help :)
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/serena-williams-shades-meghan-markle-i-dont-know-her.3432815/page-14#post-56997558
Everything went well up until 1 day before the photo shoot. Next thing you know (skimming over a lot of the story here), Meghan’s “PR” is freaking out at us because someone from our team (Mind you, this person received previous authorization from HER PR) posted a social media post about the upcoming shoot. My god, the friendly, mysterious PR turned into a down right psychopath overnight. She cursed us out, threatened us, and acted damn right insane (all via email).
When I say insane, I mean INSANE. Discombobulated sentences, all caps, 10 pages of PURE, incoherent madness. Long story short, the photo shoot ended up being cancelled! We had to scramble to find a new celeb last minute. FF to a few months later, I met up with Meghan at an event. She was nice and lovely (as she portrays herself to be on camera... But I have a very sharp intuition when it comes to people. Every-time I spoke to her, she seemed off... contrived to me as if she was hiding something).
I told her about her PR’s behaviour and she seemed genuinely shocked. She claimed to have no idea that her emotionally unstable PR ruined the photo shoot OP with us. She claimed to have been genuinely interested in the gig and mentioned that her PR said we were the ones who cancelled the contract EXCERPT
The obvious FAIL and LIE here is that everyone was ghosted in Meg's extended family except for Doria. I am saying that the black side of her family got ghosted just as much as her white side. They were all disposable and embarrassing. And Megs did live with Doria her first ten years. Indeed, I have seen affectionate treatments at DM where her extended black family spoke well of her, they had helped raise her, while some wished they had a wedding invitation or at least a kind gesture at the time
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Has it not been written that one reason Edward Lane Fox quit was that Megs totally lied to him on what she was doing to ensure her elderly father's attendance?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/952031/Prince-harry-meghan-markle-news-harry-private-secretary-ed-lane-fox-leaves-royal-wedding
Prince Harry’s private secretary LEAVES job despite being ‘godsend’ to Meghan Markle
PRINCE Harry's private secretary Ed Lane Fox will leave the Royal household this summer following the Royal Wedding despite bride-to-be Meghan Markle reportedly describing him as a "god send".
By REBECCA PERRING
PUBLISHED: 11:55, Fri, Apr 27, 2018 | UPDATED: 14:15, Fri, Apr 27, 2018
Kensington Palace confirmed the news saying Mr Lane Fox will leave after five years of service and the Queen's outgoing assistant private secretary Samantha Cohen will fill in as interim private secretary.
As Prince Harry's right hand man, Edward Lane Fox has watched him turn his life around from party prince to charity crusader and now husband-to-be.
As a captain in the Household Cavalry, Mr Lane Fox met the prince on military duties before working for RLM Finsbury, a financial communications firm, as a senior associate.
Mr Lane Fox began his royal duties shortly Prince Harry returned from a US tour, which was seen as crucial to repairing his reputation after he was photographed naked in Las Vegas.
He is said to have played a role in helping Harry's American actress bride, Meghan Markle, settle into life as a member of the Royal Family.
A source previously told US Weekly he had been "a godsend" to the 36-year-old.
A spokesman for Prince Harry paid tribute to Mr Lane Fox's "tireless" work and "valued advice".
He said: "His Royal Highness is hugely grateful to Ed for his hard work during a period that has seen the launch and growth of the Invictus Games, countless tours around the world, and the detailed planning for next month's wedding.
"Ed has led the creation of Prince Harry's private office and the development of His Royal Highness's work across a range of issues since leaving the Armed Forces.
"He has worked tirelessly, providing valued advice to Prince Harry and leadership of a growing team."
Mr Lane Fox and Prince Harry were both involved with the Burnaby Blue Foundation, which has worked with Harry's charity Sentebale in Lesotho.
However he will be attending the Royal Wedding of Harry and Meghan, which will take place on May 19.
******** Fellow Nutties. It is easy to decode what went on here with Edward Lane Fox and what has turned out to be the Gruesome Twosome aka the most Royally Dumped Dumabartons of Malibu.
I had to dust off my Twitter account as I haven't been on it in centuries -- can anyone tell me whether I have to hit "refresh" from time to time, or does it refresh on its own??
Glad Mr. Rozenberg (who's a barrister, not just a lawyer) is live-tweeting. I'm reading his tweets with interest. Too bad this is only a hearing today, no witnesses -- but it will be interesting to see whether Markle's assertion that the MoS "had it in for her" gets ruled irrelevant (as it should be). The case is about copyright infringement/invasion of privacy.
Thanks in advance for help :)
I have to refresh but I am not a regular user of twitter so ...!
I so agree with you that this court case is about infringement of copyright and invasion of privacy. (Megsy always puts too many ingredients in the salad!) Meghan obviously has another agenda, but from a legal point of view ...!
* Was there infringement of copyright/invasion of privacy under the circumstances?
* If so, is there justification for such infringement/invasion?
* If the finding is that there was infringement of copyright/invasion of privacy, then what compensation? (Although there were no financial damages for Megsy at the time, the courts tend to award a big payout to try to discourage the media from such behaviour ... maybe this court case will challenge that?)
I think? LOL
As for that phoney "caring" cr@p about "frantically texting Thomas Sr. that just recently came out, I'm hoping that gets shown for what it is. Dunno if that will come out today or not.
And yes, I don't think it can be gotten around that he called her on the wedding day and she ignored him (then, and ever since).
I read that he had called her around 5.30 am on her wedding day,
she didn’t answer/call back?
@XXXXX
ELF supposedly resigned after being told repeatedly, by Megs, that her fathers travel plans for the
wedding were in hand. They weren’t. Article has since disappeared.
Isn't there a way to prove whether and when the texts were sent, and if they're authentic, I wonder.
Surely the issue here is defamation of character and not infringement of copyright and invasion of privacy?
I will be very disappointed if the judge allows this.
The downside for suing for defamation is that everything she has done and said is admissible as evidence and she will not come out of it looking good. But, slip it in as part of the salad of her case and the judge will let her play this game but she will be shielded against having her character examined? Is this what she is doing through her legal team?
@JoshuaRozenberg
The duchess says these are examples of the Mail’s “obvious agenda of publishing intrusive or offensive stories about the Claimant intended to portray her in a false and damaging light”. White says her reliance on “examples” is “incoherent”. None of them is said to be unlawful
And who gave her friends permission to publish this copyrighted letter? So she's mad her reputation was tarnished, but pleased her dad's was?
And I don't believe these two for second about the texts. How is a text even saved that far back? Screenshot? Email? I would think it unlikely Thomas ignored all of them. After all, he did phone her the day of her wedding.
Rumour has it there’s trouble in paradise for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as sources claim their grand new life in L.A. is falling apart.
“They’ve all been shattered as he and Meghan struggle to adjust to the real world. They thought they’d be living the dream, but it’s turned into a nightmare,” the insider said.
According to the source, the plan was to get work immediately and start bankrolling the cash but with the coronavirus pandemic their grand plans have been put on hold.
With the world now in lockdown, Harry and Meghan are seemingly finding it difficult to get new deals in motion, the source claimed.
After stepping down from the royal family at the end of March, Harry and Meghan had hoped to make a fresh start in Hollywood.
Harry is apparently bored and feeling trapped and the loneliness of being holed up at home is said to be driving him mad and he’s missing his old life.
“Not being able to see anyone or do anything is putting a strain on their relationship. They’re bickering more than usual,” the insider added.
What’s more, the couple are also under financial strain with cash-strapped Harry allegedly having to turn to his father to pay the bills.
Harry is apparently bored and feeling trapped and the loneliness of being holed up at home is said to be driving him mad and he’s missing his old life.
As such, the couple are rumoured to be considering heading home, where at least their accommodation expenses would be taken care of.
The Queen is supportive of their decision and “wants to see [Harry] come home” but they would have to return to some kind of royal duties which Meghan allegedly isn’t keen on.
“There’s a lot of back and forth with the queen right now. They’re trying to reach a middle ground where everyone can be happy,” the source added.
Yes! And the friends only talked about or shared brief excerpts that made her father look bad, very bad.
I suppose her defence is that she never showed the letter to People - her friends did, without her permission or knowledge.
It is all so messy, as is anything with Megsy. It is like walking into one of those tents at the fairground with the mirrors that distort your reflection!
To me, what is key for the defence is to persuade the judge that her friends must have at least had a copy of the letter in front of them, which they would not have got if not provided by Meghan, and that it is unreasonable to assume that the friends spoke to People without her knowledge or consent.
He said the father and daughter’s relationship was “particularly warm” before “this dispute, this estrangement”.
Referring to it as a “rift”, Mr Sherborne claims Mr Markle was manipulated by the tabloid press.
Really Mr Sherborne?
She had not spoken to her father (refusing to reply to any of his messages) for 9 or 10 months? How is that a warm relationship? She did not even reply to the letter he sent her in response to her letter.
What stirred up the dispute was the article in People magazine!
Not so sure about that New Idea article especially re: any back and forth with TQ.
M doesn't have to do royal duties, I don't believe. No spouse does. But she won't (shouldn't) get a free designer wardrobe for her personal life. And she can't "cash in" any more than she's supposed to now.
I wouldn’t believe most of what’s printed in New Idea.
It’s a very trashy mag, I don’t even flick through it In the supermarket queue!
@Lizzie
I wouldn’t believe most of what’s printed in New Idea.
It’s a very trashy mag, I don’t even flick through it In the supermarket queue!
But I so hope it's true because I do want to see PH break free from MM! New Idea isn't sold around me; I only see its article titles advertized online. But I guessed early on its reporting wasn't credible because its titles differ so substantially from those of other papers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252673/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-send-sympathy-message-family-girl-18-died-lockdown.html
What I am now wondering is would Meghan be even more blatant about not following protocol and standards of dress and behaviour than she was last time? From sheer rage. Or, is she incapable of meeting those formal standards anyway, even if she wanted to? What do you all think? Could she match Kate's standard if she genuinely tried - basically if she had an actual dresser like medieval times who washed and dressed her and did her hair properly - or is it beyond her? Were her terrible engagement announcement bathrobe and dirty oversized shoes a calculated, deliberate attempt to set an alternative style, or just a reflection of the fact that she just can't do anything right?
I wouldn't be surprised if they TRIED to come back. After all, Prince Andrew continues to enjoy his privileges (without the work). The BRF will get away with as much as they can as long as they can. They're the original survivors. Never underestimate that. We can chunter on as much as we like, but it took thousands of people actually complaining and visibly unhappy in the streets to change their direction over Diana's death. Chuntering at home they can live with.
I think lack of money will force the Harkles back. And what is galling is that they can blame their failure on a global pandemic when actually they would have failed anyway.
If they come back, they will make a mess of everything again, from inside rather than outside. They're a tiresome nuisance wherever they are. There's no solution, short of boarding them up in a remote hut in Antarctica with no IT. Give them an old fashioned camera and tell them to learn to connect with penguins at a deep, meaningful level. They can come back to civilisation in 2030 with a photographic exhibition and maybe we'll look at it.
Re: my mind is now following the New Idea article and the possibility of them coming back, and that if they did Meghan would effectively be forced to do official functions because she couldn't get her hands on that seemingly endless supply of Dior, Givenchy etc. without that.
What I am now wondering is would Meghan be even more blatant about not following protocol and standards of dress and behaviour than she was last time? From sheer rage. Or, is she incapable of meeting those formal standards anyway, even if she wanted to? What do you all think? Could she match Kate's standard if she genuinely tried - basically if she had an actual dresser like medieval times who washed and dressed her and did her hair properly - or is it beyond her? Were her terrible engagement announcement bathrobe and dirty oversized shoes a calculated, deliberate attempt to set an alternative style, or just a reflection of the fact that she just can't do anything right?
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I wouldn't think there was any way in H3LL the Harkles would A) Be allowed to resume official royal functions as if nothing happened and B) that they could handle it.
They are too loose of cannons. If the Palace were to let them back in, that is the end of the monarchy, IMO.
Dan Wooten from the sun just outed #MeghanMarkle as the leaker on the stories of the other royals. #DuchessMeghan was the one who lied to the press about the Rose affair with William that never happened. She just got #BUSTED
https://www.the-sun.com/news/727993/prince-harry-meghan-markle-media-policy-dan-wootton/
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/meghan-markle-got-pal-try-21919989
The same could be said about her relationships with her father and now Harry. She dumped both Thomas and Trevor in a very brutal way; I expect she will eventually do the same thing to Harry. I love the argument by the Mail's lawyer that she while she is claiming that the newspaper caused her father emotional distress, she wouldn't actually know how her dad feels since she hasn't talked to him in almost two years.
@Ava C: It wouldn't surprise me if the duo want to return to the safety of the BRF cocoon, since their cash supply must be dwindling rapidly. But she doesn't want to perform royal duties, even though she wants all the privileges of being royal? In that case, she should be stripped of her HRH and Duchess royal titles - let her be simply Ms. Markle (or Mrs. Mountbatten-Windsor). In any event, I don't think the British public want them back in any capacity. As far as the Brits go, they can bloody well stay in LA.
Harry can come back any time as a prodigal son. He will be accepted back by the British public. But this same public is fully onto Megs. The Dastardly Duo will not be taken back. Not ever! The BRF will not take them back. Charles knows that a full outing of Charles sending hard earned Duchy rents to the Dumbartons would come into full exposure. With even loyal NDAed couturiers findings ways to leak to DM and others such as Dan Wooten, how Prince Charlies sent millions to these money grabbing turncoats.
Objectively, the Malibu two cannot return to Great Britain. Megs has spoken ill of the British too many times. Only a Harry stripped of Maleficent Megs can. I am not saying anything original here.
Megs can steal away with Archie in a settlement to make her nastiness go away. The BRF has many other squealing grandchildren. Megs and Arch will turn into a dismal footnote in Royal history books.
So after she discarded her father, she still knew how he felt? Magical thinking on Meghan’s part.
The gates are being oiled in anticipation of raising them - the Kraken is getting restless as he sees his freedom.
I'll start a new post now to discuss today's legal events.
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