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Here comes Trevor

If you're a Beatles fan, you'll know that in the fifty years since the group went its separate ways, almost everyone involved with them has sold his or her story.

Only one major figure has not: Jane Asher, who was Paul McCartney's girlfriend for five years during the heyday of the group, and accompanied him on the famous trip to India in 1968. An actress, Jane went on to become a TV personality and famous cake-baker. She has never spoken about her time with McCartney and dislikes being asked.

Until recently, the Sussex saga had included a similar figure: Trevor Engelson, Meghan Markle's ex-husband. 

Trevor has never spoken about Meg. But he has done well for himself: he married a wealthy woman, continues to work as a producer, and seems to have a loyal (and multi-racial!) circle of friends, unlike some people we know. 

He appeared to have excused himself from the whole soggy mess. 

Until yesterday, when he was papped.

Driving his black Porsche to Beverly Hills


The Daily Mail exclusively caught Trevor getting his hair trimmed in a Beverly Hills salon. Trevor "politely declined to comment" on Meghan and Harry's story. 

But the photo shoot seemed planned and pre-approved. Trevor was nicely dressed in a black sweater with matching trousers and Gucci athletic shoes - the casual look of the wealthy Californian - plus carrying what must be a late-model black phone and driving his black Porsche 911. 

No putting-out-the-garbage-in-my-bathrobe photos for "Trevety-trev-trev," as Meghan used to call him. 

And he was remarkably calm for a man supposedly caught by surprise. "You have a good day," he told the photographer.

Here come the ghosts 

What is Trevor doing back in the Sussex story? Was he paid to go away or being paid on a regular basis to be quiet, and now feels the deal is off?

Is this public appearance a clue to interested parties that he is ready to sell his story at the right price?

Maybe his reappearance is being used as some sort of message to Meg. "You're not welcome in Hollywood" or "your past is about to come out"?

Or is it just a case of a paparazzi who saw his chance and took it? 

Perhaps now that Meg is no longer protected by the Royal Family, her ghosts are beginning to reappear. 

How long until we hear from Cory the chef, Meg's "niece" Noel Rasmussen, or even the mysterious Joseph Goldman-Giuliano?

Comments

Camper said…
@Nutty

This caught my eye earlier from Toronto Paper 1:-

Darling, no house, no courtiers, no return to UK. Titles not recognised in Canada. Still looking for a job in Hollywood, with no success for months already. What you gonna do?

If touting for work when people were not aware they were ‘stepping back’ failed to bring anything to the fore, does that suggest she’s been blackballed somehow?

Don’t know what to say about her ‘niece’ , or Joe, but would love to know what the real stories are!
SwampWoman said…
He married somebody younger, prettier, and richer which is exactly what Meghan did.

She mad now.
Hikari said…
I had to take the chance to post first!

I don't think the reappearance of Trevor is an accident.

Did he arrange it, for a financial consideration? I couldn't say. It could very well be that now that Meg's return to Los Angeles via Jessica's pad in Malibu seems imminent, the papps are sniffing out figures from Meg's past to churn stories, since the value of these Canadian 'charity visits' is wearing thin. There sure are a lot of figures from Meg's past to sniff out, and Trevor is a prime subject. He must be well aware that his profile will be higher now if he and Megs are going to be residing in the same city again. He has probably been mentally prepared for some time that he might be ambushed. His calm demeanor signifies that either he's become incredibly Zen about the whole thing, or he was tipped off that this was happening.

I feel sorry for Trevor after what he went through with Meg, being used by her for seven years of his life and dumped the way he was. Seven years seems very long for a contract that both parties are aware of. Seems to me like Trevor was convinced he was getting a real wife. I hope his current one treats him better. I would also like to see him take the high road and continue to not comment about his time with MM for his own personal dignity. It sounds like a painful time in his life that he's finally managed to move on from.
Hikari said…
Dang it--I was too windy and two of you beat me! Oh, well. It's my first time being so high up on the first page. :)
Camper said…
@Hikari I’ve got way too much time on my hands and this whole situation is quite frankly gripping me. Maybe I should get my knitting needles out.....keep being windy, love reading everyone’s comments, truly,
Nutty Flavor said…
@Hikari

Ha ha! Gotta move fast here.

It seems certain that Trevor was at the very least tipped off, given the co-ordinated outfit/car and suave location.

Another alternative is that he knew the paps would be after him until they got a "post-Megxit" photo and figured it would be good to just get it out of the way so they would leave him alone.

His wife is loaded, so I doubt he needs money. But he may be keen to tell his side of the story.
Unknown said…
@SwampWoman LOL :) Yes he did. His reappearance is very suspicious...
Hikari said…
@Swampie,

It's debatable that Harry is prettier. Ten years ago, I would have said he was . . well, cute rather than traditionally handsome. Now I can't bear to look at his face any more than I can his wife's.

I watched the video of Hazza giving his rugby speech. He sounded well--I am always surprised by how deep his voice is. But his eyes were dead-looking, and he looked very serious. I doubt the Haz of 10 years ago, or even 3 years ago, would have been so somber-looking while delivering a message about the healing power of sport.

She's done a number on him all right.

I guess all of his hair loss is round the back and sides, because full-on, he looked like he had a lot more hair in that message. Other recent pictures from side view show a man who is nearly bald, like a wolverine has been gnawing his head.
Princess Mrs. B said…
Maybe Trevor is hoping that Meghan will want to star in that silly series he was pitching about a guy who's ex-wife marries into the BRF. Nothing is beneath her if there is money involved.
SwampWoman said…
@ Hikari Heh. Yep, I went for pithy but still didn't make it. Camper had more nimble fingers (I'm still on my first cup of coffee here.) Y'all thank me, I almost did it haiku style.

Besides, your comment was full of actual content.

@Camper That is curious. I don't know about blackballed so much as no talent and she's probably casting couched with everybody already.
Princess Mrs. B said…
Ooops...whose, not who's.
Liver Bird said…
I'd be surprised if Trevor waded into the mess he's been very careful to avoid until now.

His career is going well and his wife is young, pretty and absolutely loaded, so what would he have to gain? The press camped out on his doorstep? Having to put up with the inevitable 'racist' slurs in ultra woke LA? All for what would likely be a relatively paltry sum given how rich his wife is? I can't see him doing it but I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
Miggy said…
@Hikari,

The DM ran a story about H's bald spot this morning!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7898445/Prince-Harry-sported-growing-bald-patch-launched-2021-Rugby-League-World-Cup-Thursday.html
Nutty Flavor said…
Just a random thought, but if Trevor's paid NDA was with the Royal Family, they might have told him, "Never mind after all. Feel free to speak out if you would like to."

Trevor could be suggesting that he's ready to talk, and seeing if anyone else comes up with any dough to stop him.

Pure speculation, of course.
Nutty Flavor said…
@LiverBird, you're right about ultra-woke LA, but I don't think Meg is very popular there.
Camper said…
@SwampWoman

If she’s been fishing for work, it’s entirely possible some Big Cheeses think she’s too old and too used up. I’m probably too British with my idea of being blackballed.
Princess Mrs. B said…
@Nutty I never thought about the NDA with the Royal Family but that would make sense. Maybe that's why we are all of a sudden hearing from Thomas and Samantha Markle.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Here come the ghosts
What is Trevor doing back in the Sussex story? Was he paid to go away or being paid on a regular basis to be quiet, and now feels the deal is off?

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I am HOPING that these back stories will deal the "death blow" to the Harkles.
Nutty Flavor said…
@Camper, I don't think the Hollywood types care if she's old or not.

What they care about is can she make them some money - enough money to compensate for the fact that she's a total headache to work with.

I guess they believe the answer is "no."
Camper said…
@Nutty

Am I being thick, but how do they get people to sign these NDAs? I understand if both parties have something to hide, but not everyone needs the cash, or their morals go above accepting cash.
Nutty Flavor said…
Another factor in her Hollywood problems may be insurance. How do you insure a production with a Royal Family member in the cast? Are her security people going to be causing problems? It all sounds like more trouble than it's worth unless she is a really big draw - like, say, Kate might be. Apparently they think she isn't.
xxxxx said…
Trev has to do business in woke Hollywood, so he will not speak ill of Megsy. But the BRF would be smart to contact him for some insights into Megs psychology. Maybe pay him for some dirt?
Tamhsn said…
8:46
Does Canada want Harry and Meghan? | The Pledge
YouTube · Sky News
4 hours ago

Left me fuming...didnt even read the statement but jumped to defend them...this is not journalism!
Fairy Crocodile said…
Looks like a good reminder there are people who know her well and can speak up.

I suspect she is not comfortable the media turned its gaze upon her past men she used and discarded. She is no longer royal, so all bets are off.

Remember when Diana left the royal fold and hooked up with Dody on the yacht? all sorts of juicy comments appeared under their picture: "Dody: how about a quick dip? Diana: not here, darling, staff can see us"

This was unthinkable while she was a royal.
SwampWoman said…
@Camper, no, don't believe that you are wrong. I believe that the "blackballed" thing could be very much in play since there has long been talk about how unpleasant she can be to work with.

I think it is a myriad of things. I do not know what career field you are in but where I was, if a person was *extremely* unpleasant, they had to have a LOT of talent to bring in order for people to tolerate them.
Tamhsn said…
Who is Carole malone from Sky news? I have fallen in love with her!
Nutty Flavor said…
@Camper, it could be that Trevor didn't particularly want to speak about Meg anyway.

He has a new relationship and his career to think about, and at the time of the engagement he didn't want to be known as the ex-Mr. Markle. (And that was when many people still liked Meghan!)

Someone (the RF? Ron Burkle?) might have said, hey, we'll send $100,000 your way per year of keeping quiet. That benefits all parties.
Camper said…
On a side note Chris Ship said on the ITV lunchtime news this could go into a third week, even though HMTQ wants a quick resolution. There could be a statement today or tomorrow. Harry was meant to stay until early next week, but a third week?
Miggy said…
She's back to merching again - the jewellery designer has posted her *gift* to Meghan on Instagram. She'even used the HRH title.

Will she be made to remove it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7898971/Meghan-Markle-gifted-diamond-18ct-gold-tail-necklace-Nations-artist.html
SwampWoman said…
Miggy, has she ever stopped merching?

I don't know if she realizes that it isn't the money that she makes but the money that she is able to keep that counts.
Liver Bird said…
"Someone (the RF? Ron Burkle?) might have said, hey, we'll send $100,000 your way per year of keeping quiet. That benefits all parties."

The royal account books are available to the public, so I doubt this would happen. Of course, Charles could make some of his 'personal' money available, but because there would be no legal requirement for Trever (or whoever) to keep quiet, the potential scandal of the heir to the throne attempting to bribe the ex-husband of his daugher-in-law would be much worse than anything he might have to say about the woman he divorced 7 years ago.
Miggy said…
Swampwoman, of course she hasn't - it's in her blood.

I'm more curious to discover if the designer will be made to remove the post, like the last one was.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Nutty Flavor said...
Another factor in her Hollywood problems may be insurance. How do you insure a production with a Royal Family member in the cast? Are her security people going to be causing problems? It all sounds like more trouble than it's worth unless she is a really big draw - like, say, Kate might be. Apparently they think she isn't.

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Nutty Flavor, you have nailed it. That is, the innumerable issues that the Harkles seem to have not wished to worry about.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Miggy

I wonder if tax and revenues are keeping an eye on her "gifts". I believe some of them may taxable according to the US law.

As well as freebies like jet flights and villas. American Nuttiers - is this correct?
Liver Bird said…
"She's back to merching again - the jewellery designer has posted her *gift* to Meghan on Instagram. She'even used the HRH title."

The royals HAVE to put a stop to this, and soon. You cannot have a freelance 'royal' going rogue on the other side of the world. Still not sure what exactly they can do though. Removing their titles would be a huge step as it's only ever happened (in modern times) to dukes who betrayed Britain in a time of war, and merching isn't quite on that level! But so long as she gets to keep her title and her HRH, this - and worse - is going to keep on happening.
Camper said…
@Nutty

Thank you for explaining that

@SwampWoman, my field is currently not working, through choice. But like many people I’ve done various things in my time, longest stint being on an Oil Refinery.
Tamhsn said…
Not sure if this has been posted yet
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7898081/Meghan-Markle-never-actually-stepped-foot-Canada-womens-center.html

She just met the staff!
I can't make head or tail of this merching thing. What makes something like this (and the other jewellery merch that previously got stamped on, don't recall the details off the top of my head sorry but I'm sure people know who I mean) different to the "femail fashion finder" pieces that seem to run in every DM article? Is it something to do with self-promoting rather than an article promoting as a third party? Apologies if these are obvious questions (and most likely poorly worded), but I'm clueless on this matter and trying to understand the difference in the DM seemingly being able to use Meghan to advertise what she's wearing without any controversy and a company/individual doing it.
Miggy said…
I think the Royals have so much on their plates at the moment, trying to sort out the gigantic mess the Harkles have caused, that they may turn a blind eye to her merching.

Like Fairy Croc said - I hope the tax people are keeping a beady eye open instead!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Lurking With Spoon said...
I can't make head or tail of this merching thing. What makes something like this (and the other jewellery merch that previously got stamped on, don't recall the details off the top of my head sorry but I'm sure people know who I mean) different to the "femail fashion finder" pieces that seem to run in every DM article? Is it something to do with self-promoting rather than an article promoting as a third party? Apologies if these are obvious questions (and most likely poorly worded), but I'm clueless on this matter and trying to understand the difference in the DM seemingly being able to use Meghan to advertise what she's wearing without any controversy and a company/individual doing it.

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@Lurking, it has to do with the Royal Family itself. Under NO circumstances should the Royal Family be shopped on tea towels without the express of the Queen.
Miggy said…
Dan Wootton . Spiked.

Good article.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/01/17/meghan-wanted-a-deferential-press-we-said-no/
SwampWoman said…
Well, my gracious, obviously not enough coffee as yet. I accidentally deleted my own post (grin). I know that it is difficult to do, yet I did. (Big fingers, little screen.) The gist of the post was that people accuse me of being a pessimist when I encourage them to start their own businesses BUT to plan for the worst possible outcome in order to avoid living under a bridge. Positive thinking is all very well and good but you HAVE to be aware of the downside and plan accordingly.

From what people have said about MM, just the prospect of thinking about adverse scenarios is enough to draw those bad vibes in and cause chaos. She doesn't plan for any bad outcomes. It is like the people that don't make wills or plan for retirement because if they don't, they will neither die nor age.

AliOops said…
@Tamhsn Of course she did! Showing support and shining that light for 10 minutes. So impactful. The level of self-regard this woman has is really astonishing. Her head must have its own orbit.
CookieShark said…
I think Trevor being papped was a message to MM. He's not commenting now, but will he? Did he arrange it, or did they find him? The details of not knowing and the lack of control will surely bother her.

@ Lurking with a Spoon (Great name) the merching….

I'm not sure for certain, but I think the difference is MM is blatantly showing off products/clothing and expecting some kind of compensation in return, allegedly. She also appears to pose like no other to allow very clear photos of her bracelets, etc. Her Meghan's Mirror website always seems to have lightening - quick identifications of her outfits, suggesting someone is tipping them off. That the palace came down on Jennifer Meyer suggests to me that they were aware of MM somehow benefitting from the endorsement, otherwise why the big deal?
Liver Bird said…
Just musing a bit more on the titles and such like.... so Meghan is not a British citizen and is now unlikely to ever become one. She has made it clear that she hates Britain and has no intention of returning there. And while she, in her arrogance, seems to think she can still continue to carry out royal duties, I doubt HM will go along with that.

Add in her using her royal status for merching purposes (and god knows what else?) how can she continue to be allowed to use a British royal title?
Jen said…
@Miggy, very good article. Thanks for sharing! I thought his comment about how the press took a look at their treatment of Diana, and made changes, is very telling.
Anonymous said…
Ms. Markle should have considered the ramifications of throwing Jennifer Meyer under the bus the way she did. She is part of Hollywood royalty, and to embarrass her like that and to potential harm Meyer’s business ventures was a huge no-no. But, of course, I am sure that Ms. Markle blamed it on the BRF, but anyone with half a brain would have sussed out that Ms. Markle thought she could just sneak that merching under the radar no one the wiser. She is an idiot. She doesn’t realize that they have her under watch night and day? Everything thing she posts, every phone call she makes is monitored. She excels at nothing EXCEPT bridge burning. Because using people and watching her machinations blow up in their faces is NEVER her fault.
Camper said…
@Liver Bird

Although it’s perfectly legal it reminds me of Lady Colin Campbell ridiculously clinging to her title even after that short marriage of hers.
Camper said…
@Liver Bird

Forgot to say, married after 5 days, marriage lasted 14 months
Liver Bird said…
"Although it’s perfectly legal it reminds me of Lady Colin Campbell ridiculously clinging to her title even after that short marriage of hers."

But she's an aristocrat, not a royal - and also a British citizen. Also, she wasn't using her title to flog earrings, I don't think.

abbyh said…

IDK, for me it may be a message of when you have worn out Canada and think you can come to LA (couch surf in Malibu), just remember I'm here. And people will be asking me about you off record.

By taking the high road (paid, NDA or not) he has maintained the good guy appearance.

now to get caught up from overnight
Camper said…
@Liver Bird

I’m just talking about keeping a title post divorce, when most people would move on, well I say most people. I think she married into the aristocracy, nothing wrong with that. But hasn’t she traded on it to sell her insightful books into the royals? It’s only my opinion, of course.
CookieShark said…
Let me also comment that torontopapers tweets make me smile. I know it's serious stuff, but he gets me every time with his "what you gonna do?" and "how you gonna do that?"
pi said…
Perhaps I need to be more cynical. I don't think Trevor needs the money. On the other hand, the media have an axe to grind with the gilded slackers considering the lawsuits. The Trevor photos are good artillery pregnant with meaning because they are totally ambiguous.

Coincidence? I think not. Effect? I imagine this will send this control freak round the bend, wondering and waiting for the sword of Damocles hanging over her head to finally do its thing. She may perceive this as a threat. And imagine the envy/jealousy she's experiencing at his lavish, free life in the sunshine state, mixing with the stars while she's isolated on a winter gloomy island! Oh the shade!

I do think that those who have encountered and experienced narcissists and the damage they leave in their wake have a duty to warn. But this can be done privately. Mostly, like Samantha and others in the family we will rarely be believed. But the duty is there. I've done it. And wasn't believed.
Liver Bird said…
"I’m just talking about keeping a title post divorce, when most people would move on, well I say most people."

The custom is that wives of British aristocrats - that includes royals - get to keep their 'style' (not exactly a title) after divorce. Hence, Sarah, Duchess of York, or Diana, Princess of Wales.

Anyway, I'm not talking post-divorce (though I doubt we'll have long to wait!) I'm talking about now. Since Meghan is not British and has made it clear she will never live in Britain again, why should she hold a British royal title? But it's a bit of a conundrum because, as I said previously, removing the ducal titles from Harry would be an extreme step and so long as she remains married to Haz, Meghan will by default have all of his titles.


"But hasn’t she traded on it to sell her insightful books into the royals? It’s only my opinion, of course."

She has, but since hers is not a royal title and she is not deemed to represent Britain nor is she in receipt of British taxpayers' money, it's totally different.

@CookieShark, but surely the DM running their "buy what Meghan's wearing" femail ads, although they're probably not earning her money directly, still utilises her royal status (if she wasn't royal we wouldn't be seeing them as she'd still be a nobody in the UK) to sell the items and therefore the companies featured are benefiting from the endorsement? I didn't think that was supposed to happen either? Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick completely on this one?

Can you tell I have no idea what I'm talking about? LOL
Miggy said…
The Harkles are now being trolled! LOL

"Expedia trolls Harry and Meghan with 'escape the family' Canada holiday advert."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/expedia-trolls-harry-meghan-escape-21299935

Great post @pi
KC said…
January 17, 2020
Blogger xxxxx said...
For Android install the Brave browser which has a built in ad blocker. DM runs clean on it. Just tested it.


Thanks so much for this.
Nutty Flavor said…
The Expedia post was funny, wasn't it? And Expedia isn't generally known as a company with a humorous profile - unlike, for example, Burger King, Pizza Hut, or Wendy's, which all regularly poke fun at celebrities and celebrity culture.

Fun fact: Expedia was not involved in Prince Harry's bizarre Travalyst venture. Its rival, Booking.com, was.

punkinseed said…
What do we really know about Trevor's personality? Anything much?
I don't know much about Hollywood producers, but from what I can see about him so far is that he seldom if ever tried to get Megs any roles in any films to speak of. He didn't push to make her the big star she wanted to be or make her famous in any way. I reckon that if he had tried very hard he would have been black balled by the producer community in general because his long time girlfriend/wife just didn't have enough talent. Match her pushy, wrecking ball ways in about any social situation since she came on the scene with Harry and it's obvious that she would have used the same back stabbing, controlling, NPD tactics back then as she is using now.
Trevor must be some kind of very very strong man to have managed to keep his career from being smashed by giving in to Meg demanding ultimatums that he push and promote for roles for her. Imagine the self control he must have had to use, unlike Harry, who didn't think a thing of pushing Disney to let her work for them. I'm very disappointed in Disney for that.
It might be possible that Trevor managed to keep the relationship with Rach going as long as he did is because he probably payed for her agent fees. Then, if she bugged him for a chance at an upcoming role, he would only have to say something like "suggest it to your agent and get them to work on it for you..."
Also, imagine being a producer and in a relationship with an actor. It would be very hard to keep out of the back of one's mind that the only reason actor or actress wants to be with you is to further one's screen time/roles? That's obviously what happened to Trevor after she got on Suits after he got the mail.
Liver Bird said…
"I don't know much about Hollywood producers, but from what I can see about him so far is that he seldom if ever tried to get Megs any roles in any films to speak of. He didn't push to make her the big star she wanted to be or make her famous in any way."

He may have tried and failed. He was hardly on the A or even B list of Hollywood producers so there would be a limit to what he could achieve for his untalented and not that pretty wife.
Glow W said…
William lost all his hair while with Kate; does that mean Kate caused it? No. Of course not. It’s the age range of when it happens.
punkinseed said…
Has it occurred to anyone that Megs may plan to set up her "royal Canada court" within and by using the First Nations to do it?
I guess the Canadians haven't told her, "Don't mess with the Indians!"
Glow W said…
@Tamhsn @Fairy Croc that explains it. Fairy had asked the other day if she actually went to the women, and it had seemed she went to the offices to introduce herself.
Camper said…
@Liver Bird

You are right pointing out the differences regarding nationality and tax payers money.
PaisleyGirl said…
@LiverBird and @Punkinseed, re Meghan's acting career, I was wondering why she would even bother trying to get an acting career off the ground for so many years when she had a perfectly good Northwestern degree? I'm not an American so I don't know how that would work, but if you invest that much money in obtaining a degree (shocking amounts, for me as a European!) why would you not use that expensive education AT ALL and instead settle for terrible acting jobs as a suitcase girl or in a hamburger advert?
punkinseed said…
pi, I agree. Well said. It's very hard to get people to understand the motives and machinations of a Narc.
Murky Megs has a new vid up. It's really good.
Fairy Crocodile said…
I just got my Megxit key ring from Amazon today. Surprisingly sturdy and well made. I think it is made in UK too.

So I supported a British taxpayer while protesting against a scrounger and tax dodger. Woo Hoo!
Liver Bird said…
@PaisleyGirl

Because she wanted fame. She wanted to Be Someone. Not for Rachel Meghan Markle the mundane existence of inferior folks.
Glow W said…
By the way, regarding Northwestern, she said she paid her way through school and then we have her sister saying her dad did. I nothiced something the other day. He said he paid off her student loans. Ok so does that mean they are both right? If she had student loans, he didn’t pay her university costs straight away, but later on or after a time.

I pay for university for my kids who are there (3 currently at university). This means every time there is a fee bill, I pay in full and no student loans are needed. Then I cut checks for those in apartments and then I transfer 3x $500 for books to their checking accounts.
punkinseed said…
PaislyGirl, Northwestern tuition is astronomical to us Americans as well. And get this! CA colleges have super low and at some colleges almost no tuition fees for community college, so why she didn't get an AA degree from a CC like Questa, then ladder up to say, USC or whereever like most can afford to do sans draining daddy to bankruptcy.
This tells me Megs used Northwestern as a vehicle to seek and find a wealthy husband. Think along the lines of the movie with Julia Roberts, "Mona Lisa Smile" and you'll get the gist of why some women bother to attend college at all. I think it's still on Netflix.
Glow W said…
(Yes, I still use checks ) lol
PaisleyGirl said…
@Punkinseed, thanks for the explanation! Now I understand why she would want to attend an expensive university and not use her degree. Although finding a rich husband at Northwestern didn't work out so well for Meghan. And so much for being an emancipated and empowered woman.
@Nutty, ‘@LiverBird, you're right about ultra-woke LA, but I don't think Meg is very popular there’,

There was an article in Tatler early last year, that said that a friend of the royals had an industry based friend who said ‘Meghan was a piece of work’. So I can well believe she isn’t well liked.

On another note, I don’t think it was a complete coincidence that Trevor was seen out and papped. He might not want to actually speak out, but it was his way of reminding Meghan what ‘he’ knows about ‘her’. Passive-aggressive approach.
Glow W said…
That is such a 1950s saying though... going to college to get a degree in MRS.

Northwestern is prestigious and highly desirable.
punkinseed said…
I can hear the discussion now: "Daddyyyyyyy, I need moneyyyy for Northwestern...."
"Northwestern? Are you crazay? If you want to go there, fine, but you'll need to get a student loan..."
"I've decided. It MUST be Northwestern. If you don't pay for it my heart will be broken into a million pieces! I can't be seen getting a loan! It would make us look like poor white trash! That's so low life!"
"ok honey, how much? You'll have to pay me back so be sure to keep track of how much I give you ok?"
"Thank you daddy. I'll pay you back."
punkinseed said…
My guess is Rach took daddy's $ for college AND got student loans without telling him.
Liver Bird said…
"There was an article in Tatler early last year, that said that a friend of the royals had an industry based friend who said ‘Meghan was a piece of work’. So I can well believe she isn’t well liked."

The Oscars are just a few weeks away.

Are we taking bets on her turning up? Would she be able to wrangle her way into an award presentation role? Or will we see her with the rest of the C listers at one of the afters parties, Elton's perhaps?
none said…
The DM is reporting Archie is 1 year old. According to the official version he was born May 6. So that makes him 8 months old.

"Their one-year-old son Archie is in Canada with his mother."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7898971/Meghan-Markle-gifted-diamond-18ct-gold-tail-necklace-Nations-artist.html
DesignDoctor said…
@Pi Great post!
So true about not being believed about narc's behavior. They are masters at being charming in public and hellions behind closed doors.

I wish someone would shut down both her merching and use of HRH Duchess of Sussex! It really bothers me that she could possibly continue to use the BRF as she has. She is such a user! The DM headline of Meghan in the Driver's Seat infuriates me!
IEschew said…
Hi all! I’m enthused by Trev’s (!) appearance. Longtimers in LA know where to go to anonymously get their hair cut and where to do it and be papped. And of course they know how to tip off paparazzi if they want to be photographed at their usual barber, but it’d be breaking an unwritten rule to give away the address of an off-the-map, good hairstylist used by other privacy-seeking celebs. A working producer wouldn’t do that. So my guess is for whatever reason, his appearance is intentional.

I see others have picked up on the Christmas decor in “Thursday’s” Victoria airport photos and video of Meg. Does Victoria have a different definition of twelve?
IEschew said…
Oh shoot, forgot a third question: I notice TP has used the phrasing “what you gonna do” in questions to Meg twice recently. Ring bells for anyone? Significant?
PaisleyGirl said…
Holly: "The DM is reporting Archie is 1 year old. According to the official version he was born May 6. So that makes him 8 months old.

"Their one-year-old son Archie is in Canada with his mother."

Waha, I knew it! There is no way Archie is 8 months old. Daily Mail's hints are becoming less subtle by the moment.
@pi, I do think that those who have encountered and experienced narcissists and the damage they leave in their wake have a duty to warn. But this can be done privately. Mostly, like Samantha and others in the family we will rarely be believed. But the duty is there. I've done it. And wasn't believed.

It's difficult to get the balance right though. At the beginning my initial thoughts were Meghan's family were acting out and jealous of what she was doing because it was all so full-on, they unfortunately came across as the unhinged side of the family who were looking for fame/fortune at that point in time. It was only as time went on I realised just how wrong I'd been and now I have so much respect for them for calling it out despite probably knowing they wouldn't be believed. I still cringe when I remember thinking "oh that crazy sister is stirring up nonsense again", especially after divorcing my own "narc" 20 years ago and understanding that there are two sides to every story. I think if they'd been less full-on and a bit more restrained people might have taken more notice, although there'd still have been the "they're just jealous/trying to get on the gravy train" aspect even then, so I really don't know.
@Liver Bird, ‘The Oscars are just a few weeks away.

Are we taking bets on her turning up? Would she be able to wrangle her way into an award presentation role? Or will we see her with the rest of the C listers at one of ‪the afters‬ parties, Elton's perhaps?’

Lol Oh I think she’d try anything for a photo op. I think most of the A-listers have moved on, and don’t want to be associated with her now. So some desperado C lister or lower will have to suffice. ;o)
SDJ said…
@punkinseed
Has it occurred to anyone that Megs may plan to set up her "royal Canada court" within and by using the First Nations to do it?
Yes.

Re the 18K gold necklace. I thought MM's trips to the charities were somewhat spontaneous. Seems odd that a CHARITY/non-profit would provide a last-minute gift worth C$2,160 (per gallery website).

Did they run to the gift cupboard and reject the a) logo'd thermal coffee mug b) fridge magnet c) hoodie in favour of a quite precious gift to a person who is not a patron, board member, fund raiser etc but a celebrity looking for a photo op? I can see the gift is this was a pre-planned royal visit, but this was MM in her dog-walking outfit.

Sadly, our Canadian sensibilities get a little overwhelmed and giddy when in the presence of greatness. Sigh. We are just so greatful that a celeb came to see us in little ole Canada. Its embarassing.
Fedde said…
I'll be skipping this one, as I don't want to speculate about a man who has, so far, kept his distance and refused to comment on MM (or her relationship with Harry). Unless he comes forward with a statement, book or tell-all interview or whatever (i.e. getting involved in the situation), I feel it's unfair to make him the subject of conversation.

Just because he got papped in a "matching outfit" and athletic shoes (so what?) and carrying a "late-model black phone" (wtf?) and driving a nice-looking car, is no reason at all to say he tipped the paparazzi or is trying to send messages to MM.

To be quite honest, I'd expected better from you, Nutty.
Nutty Flavor said…
Fedde, he staged that photo in co-operation the paps. Don't be näive.

Hollywood is a town of image. He looked fabulous, he was going to a fabulous place, he was driving a fabulous car.

Planned and staged. The only question is why.
IEschew said…
@Fedde, please see my note above about pap culture in LA. I totally get what you’re saying, but things are a little different there and I think it is fair to speculate as to why he was visible to be photographed today. Much beyond that and I agree with you. But tabloids have been willing to pay for a photo of him for a long time; in context, I think it’s newsworthy that he appeared this week.
Anonymous said…

Perhaps now that Meg is no longer protected by the Royal Family, her ghosts are beginning to reappear.

Truest words, @Nutty.

Also, re Jen Meyer, that was definitely the BRF doing a shot across the bow. They did not and will not go at Rach directly. But they will send take-no-prisoners signals to any and all in cahoots.

6. I also think that this smiling to the faces of Rach & H, giving them what they want, is not unexpected. The BRF was never going to cut them off at the knees to bleed out in daylight. Nope, the attack was always going to be silent, undertaken mostly by others, and there will be no BRF fingerprints at the scene.

So, hello, Trevity-trev-trev, roll on up...

Between the BRF working behind the scenes to shut everything down, the forensic accountants scrubbing every existing relationship and prior (and future) transactions, the myriad financial, tax, and royal complications, the Sussexes' might want to hold off on any long-term capital projects. Add Rach's unlikable nature, her abhorrent character, the free low of devastating information about her coupled with her little (40 yo) girl smiles and winks, stir for six months and shake... I hope Chas has the Highgrove House basement open again. Club H and a room for Archie.



@Tatty, OT, but I read the comments on the last post at the end, so I hope my fellow Nuttiers will allow me this one: while I'm sure that there are still women husband shopping at universities, I would say it is not why most women go to college and it's kind of insulting and dismissive to suggest that it is the norm anymore. Pew Research has studies that show college-educated women are more likely to have a lasting marriage, but getting married to your college sweetheart does not always bode well because you meet under NRL conditions and then RL comes along. Whoops.

Nutty Flavor said…
@Lurking with Spoon, the Markles were not media-trained when they first came onto the scene.

Civilians - people who have no experience working with the media - often say dumb-ass stuff when a reporter calls and make themselves look like rubes, snobs, morons, or all three.

Unless there is some payback in portraying them that way (say the reporters want to make the supporters of a specific politican look like rubes, snobs, or morons), a professional journalist will treat them differently than she would treat someone accustomed to dealing with the press.

A good sign of someone who has been media trained is that they repeat back the question so the quote can be clipped, and they avoid all unnecessary words so their quotes sound polished.

Journalist: When did you begin following the Meghan Markle story?

Trained person: "I began following the Meghan Markle story in the fall of 2017, shortly before the engagement announcement."

Untrained person: "Well, I think I began following it when, like, they kept saying she was going to marry Prince Harry and stuff."
Anonymous said…


And the BINGO goes to Paisley Girl!

for this: "Their one-year-old son Archie is in Canada with his mother."

Waha, I knew it! There is no way Archie is 8 months old. Daily Mail's hints are becoming less subtle by the moment.


Third story in a couple of days to drop Archie hints. It's coming, and I think that is the reason A-listers have scurried from the ship. No one, absolutely no one, wants to be associated with that fraud. And the BRF have plausible deniability, but this may be when they need to be "shocked!" by the circumstances.

If Rach presents at the Oscars (and please, Hollywood, do not be this stupid), it will only be because she bounced and snared a stupid prince, not because of any talent other than that. How empty that must feel, even for a person as empty as Rach.

punkinseed said…
Tatty, prestigious is what made it desirable for Rach. And just because the MRS degree was pre 1960's for women who wanted to seek eligible men, that didn't stop nor end at Women's Lib for women who are stalkers like Rach. Colleges are still hunting grounds, so no, it's not something that is just 1950's.
KC said…
Miggy posted Markle got a necklace.....a "diamond-18ct-gold-tail-necklace" per DM

Really, the symbolism is just too, too.....It's really called gold-tail?? I'M SPEECHLESS.
Hikari said…
>>>I don't know much about Hollywood producers, but from what I can see about him so far is that he seldom if ever tried to get Megs any roles in any films to speak of. He didn't push to make her the big star she wanted to be or make her famous in any way.

Perhaps he did try, behind the scenes, to a degree, but he was still building his own career and influence in Hollywood himself, and didn't have the clout of say, a Francis Ford Coppola to neptotize a family member into a lead role in a huge film. Particularly one of MM's modest level of talent. 'Modest' seems too optimistic. More like 'undetectable'. In her prime (which is to say, her 20s) Meg was cute, having taken advantage of all the aids to nature available, and being dressed and styled by professionals . . but Hollywood is full of pretty girls with more to offer than a 'hot girl' look. Meg's claim to 'hot girl' was always rather tenuous; that burger-grilling video for Men's Health was a painful view; it reminded me of Miley Cyrus twerking. An average girl who wants so badly to be Hot. Miley has her issues, but at least she can sing. Meg's ambitions in the entertainment industry were always 'Reach Exceeding Grasp'.

>>>I reckon that if he had tried very hard he would have been black balled by the producer community in general because his long time girlfriend/wife just didn't have enough talent. Match her pushy, wrecking ball ways in about any social situation since she came on the scene with Harry and it's obvious that she would have used the same back stabbing, controlling, NPD tactics back then as she is using now.<<<<

Agree. He may have tested the waters, since Meg was no doubt hounding him every day to advance her career, but he couldn't get her so much as a commercial for the avocado board. (I debated what products Meg thinks she is a poster girl to advertise: Toothpaste? Shampoo? With her dentures and wigs, that's a hoot.)

Hikari said…
>>>>Trevor must be some kind of very very strong man to have managed to keep his career from being smashed by giving in to Meg demanding ultimatums that he push and promote for roles for her.<<<

Certainly stronger than Harry. Trev was older and had the assurance of his career and having been moved out on his own for some time, making his own money in a cutthroat industry. Producers have to be tough, but also persuasive, if they are going to convince investors to invest in their projects. Meg was really young when they got together, and as a baby Narcissist had not had the fuel of career success to perhaps make her as blatantly controlling and nightmarish as she is today. Trevor had all the power in their relationship initially--older, established, in a position to help her . . she had no money and no resume. She was nobody. She had no profile at all to style herself as the woke biracial eco-warrior humanitarian. Girls like her are a dime a dozen in L.A. Being a biracial unemployed actress with a hobby blog, living with a sugar daddy and hoping to Get Seen must describe at least several thousand girls in that city. Girls like that come from all over; they don't even have to be indigenous. She stayed with Trev so long because she had zilch to trade upon in terms of upgrading her relationship.

Being offered a small supporting role in a basic cable series pilot being shot in New York validated all of Rachel's belief that she was going to be a Big Star, and she immediately started living as though she was going to be as big as Jennifer Aniston on 'Friends'. (Her character incidentally another 'Rachel') Prematurely, as it turns out, but Rach has never been good at delaying her gratification. As soon as she got that little bit of currency to trade (and to fund PR firms), Trevor was surplus to requirements.


>>>It might be possible that Trevor managed to keep the relationship with Rach going as long as he did is because he probably payed for her agent fees. Then, if she bugged him for a chance at an upcoming role, he would only have to say something like "suggest it to your agent and get them to work on it for you..."

Trevor took over where Tom Markle had left off and paid for everything for her. Surprised he didn't just take over the student debt as well. That story she told of running out of gas in her beater car on the way to an audition must have been pre-Trev, because he treated her very well, long before he was her husband.
>>>Also, imagine being a producer and in a relationship with an actor. It would be very hard to keep out of the back of one's mind that the only reason actor or actress wants to be with you is to further one's screen time/roles? That's obviously what happened to Trevor after she got on Suits after he got the mail.<<<

Yes, that's an occupational hazard. Though it also could be why many people get into producing in the first place--for perks like that. Not saying this was Trevor's motivation, because he didn't rush into marriage with her. Seven years is long by Hollywood standards for a relationship of such disparity to last. Perhaps he convinced himself it was love after that much time had passed. Which makes Rach's manner of informing her husband that the marriage was over particularly brutal. She really really wanted to stick it to him by this method. She was safely away in another country when she did it (Coward) . . and also ensuring that she entirely controlled things by ghosting him and refusing any discussion. Giving back valuable jewelry is not Rach's typical MO, so this was her way of saying "I am so done with you I don't even want any trace of our marriage in my life." She could have sold them off, but her way made a more evisceral point.

Unknown said…
@holly @PaisleyGirl DM could be just messing with us and rounding up his age. I hope they aren’t ;)

@tatty Wills hair loss was gradual and it wasn’t coupled with weight loss and looks of emotional turmoil. Harry has lost hair, is paler, thinner, and has changed how he interacts with numerous people (press, brother, etc..) he has know for years. Many would consider such changes red flags for compromised well-being. I know if my brother changed so much, I would be crazed with worry for him.
Hikari said…
There is a rumor being floated around that may solidify into fact if Trevor ever opts to tell his side of the story that Meg had already crushed him prior to this by terminating his baby. That she was noticeably puffy on the set of Suits in one of the early seasons, causing problems for the wardrobe department, until she came back one day svelte once again. That would effectively kill a marriage, I'd think. Her stipulations for a potential pregnancy have already been released by third parties--Ninaki Priddy is who I think we have heard this from. The treatment of Trevor is, she says, what killed the friendship with Meg from her side, though she had already likely been ghosted along with Meg's marriage.

This is the kind of painful, deeply personal information that I hope Trevor keeps to himself, if it happened. Spewing it out is not going to be healing in any way; it will only mean that he is stooping to Rachel's gutter mentality level. What might allow him to get his story out while seeming to be above it all is to say, often and repeatedly whenever asked about Meg, "I have no comment on any relationships from my past. My current life is going really well and I'm really thriving now." Don't even mention her by name. Grind in, subtly that she was not his 'Only One', and how much better off he is without her, without mentioning any past grievances. Be sure to use the word 'Thriving!' Releasing any kind of tell-all and admitting to how hurt, how used, how SOUL-CRUSHING being with Meg was will give her a perverse sense of satisfaction. Let her start to doubt her lingering impact in his life. Maybe he's not hurt anymore?! Maybe, she was so forgettable that he has *completely forgotten about her!* Now he's swanning around town in a luxury car flaunting his life without her like she was never a part of it! How dare he!! SHE calls the shots here! She won't be IGNORED, Trevor!! Spitting nails mad, and determined to show that OH YES SHE MATTERED to Trevor so much that her leaving devastated him to the ground, she will use some 'friends' to leak, in detail, all the ways she hurt Trevor.

His fingerprints will be nowhere near this, but his story will be told--and she will tell it herself. I think that's the best way. Meg is like that Indian snake eating itself--she is her own worst enemy.
IEschew said…
And to sort of answer my own question about TP’s use of “what you gonna do,” in the US and maybe elsewhere, there was a very early reality show called COPs (as in law enforcement). Its theme song was ubiquitous...a spin on a reggae tune called Bad Boys that goes “Bad boys bad boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you” - I didn’t even watch the show but have that association. So that’s the annoying tune that’s been stuck in my head since I read it from TP earlier this week, so it caught my eye in TP’s latest.

And of course it’s reggae and Trevor married Meg in Jamaica. I’m sure that’s reaching but I figure we throw everything and see what sticks.

Plus wanted to share in case you’re tired of having the Stone Roses and Happy Mondays in your ears. You’re welcome. 😉
punkinseed said…
Nutty, I agree. Trev's shots were staged and there's not a thing wrong with us talking about it.
Anonymous said…
@Punkinseed and @Tatty, looks like you're both right. Here's a pretty current and IMO balanced article:

https://www.redandblack.com/culture/students-and-faculty-discuss-the-idea-of-mrs-degree/article_5b353f7a-4059-11e8-85f8-639c3715284b.html

I find the whole concept utterly offensive, of course, and I did when I was in college, too, but no doubt not all women or men feel that way.
KC said…
Nutty said: A good sign of someone who has been media trained is that they repeat back the question so the quote can be clipped, and they avoid all unnecessary words so their quotes sound polished.

Yes, plus it makes them slow their reaction time,as they focus on the question instead of blurting out a (possibly more informative than intended) answer.
Portcitygirl said…
Anyone see the article on Terrence Fox and the uni lecturer from dm? MM has all woke people fanning the flames of racism and the male white privilege bs. She is the most privileged while white males all over the world struggle to put food on the table for their families. Some in Britain are orphans and live in council homes and are starving and have little immediate access to healthcare. I can't believe these idiot "professors" are allowed to push this narrative after the British gave her everything she wanted even after she spat in their faces. If she had any dignity or honor she would renounce this garbage being peddled about Britain. PH should be ashamed of this false narrative pandered about by these woke people who they themselves are racist. All the while she buddies up to hypocrite Trudeau who has a pension for wearing blackface. Disgusting. All she ever wanted was tobpeddle her LA political bs globally and PH is nothing but a pawn for her political scheming. This just really riles me and my SO is ME so we have experienced racism and bigotry ourselves here and the culprits were black middle aged women in a school setting and one of my team members, also black, admonished them.
One made a disparaging comment about Arabs and the other about Muslims. There we're other times that were not so in my face, but the point being all races can show bigotry and racism, not just "white privileged males. White women on both sides of the aisle better start disputing this fake narrative bc these woke witches are coming for all white men, even the beta lib ones. And lastly, I hate talking about politics but MM and her posse started it so now we all have to discuss it. It is not going away.
KCM1212 said…
@hikari

"Looks like a wolverine has been gnawing on his head"?

LOL!!!!!!

Portcitygirl said…
Forgive the typos. Damn autocorrect. And on mobile.
SwampWoman said…
@elle This may sound very odd coming from a conservative grandmother (grin) who does have a university degree but I advise my grandchildren (and advised the children) to think *very* carefully about investing in said degrees. Universities and textbooks by their very nature are two or three steps behind what is happening in business/industry at the moment. Is the ROI going to be worth it and, again, not to discount the time value of money.

With that being said, MM's degree from her university would have been an excellent ROI had she not had the personality flaws that she does. OTOH, would she have attracted PH without said personality flaws? Narcs and BPD people can be *very* compelling.

Seabee666 said…
Two things Meghan knows: 1) If you claim to be Woke, PC, progressive and moreover, flip Donald Trump the bird, you are guaranteed the undying loyalty, and protective reporting of the mainstream media who will absolve all her obvious gold-digging, manipulation, lies, and bad acts by calling every detractor a racist. 2) No matter how sleazy, low class and idiotic your product line produced in sweat shops, there is an international market for American celebrity crap. Look at Kiley Jenner. Knocked up as a teenage by a dead beat rapper after she had her face literally removed and replaced. Yet she is hawking make-up. She claims powders and brushes - not a nose job, chin reduction, botox, fillers, hair removal, breast and butt implants and rib removal - are responsible for her transformation from homely teenager to blow-up doll. And yet she just sold 51 percent of her business for $600M. Murkle has no shame, soul or conscience, so as long as she talks the talk, the press will continue to run interference for her and she can sell crappy merch to millions of idiots around the world no doubt claiming they are conflict-free, organic, holistic, blah blah blah but of course they won't be.
Blogger IEschew said...

Oh shoot, forgot a third question: I notice TP has used the phrasing “what you gonna do” in questions to Meg twice recently. Ring bells for anyone? Significant?

"What you gonna do?"

"Call Ghost Busters!!!"
HappyDays said…
Hi All,

Off the Trevor topic, but interesting.

The NY Post and CDAN both have items on Meghan’s application for UK citizenship possibly being in jeopardy if she stays out of the UK for too long.

If the CDAN blind is accurate, she sure has a lot of arrogance in her narcissistic mind to think the UK is going to pass a law to help her after she flipped the middle finger to not only the RF, but the citizenry as well.

My guess is Meghan doesn’t give a rip about obtaining UK citizenship, but as a narcissistic control move, she will secretly enter the country for the necessary amount of time and slip out. Then she will suddenly be granted citizenship after fulfilling the requirements. Hopefully the marriage won’t last long enough and she’ll lose her title, which she is building her entire future upon.

The only reason she applied for citizenship is she feared she’d lose her title if they divorced before she obtained citizenship.

Crazy Days and Nights
January 17, 2020
Blind Item #4
Apparently the alliterate royal wants a law passed which will allow her to qualify for an exception to residency requirements to obtain citizenship. 

From the NY Post, Page 6
January 16, 2020
Meghan Markle’s British citizenship could be jeopardized by Megxix

She may be the Duchess of Sussex, but Meghan Markle has yet to be accepted for British citizenship — and Megxit may stop her from ever obtaining it, according to a report Thursday.

The “Suits” star started the process toward getting a British passport soon after her May 2018 royal wedding to Prince Harry, the sixth in line to the throne, according to The Times of London.

She was bestowed her Duchess of Sussex title, and a year later gave birth to a royal baby, Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor — but still could not skip the normal process for citizenship, the report said.
Most crucially, her application relies on her spending most of her time in the UK — completely at odds with her widely reported plans to mostly skip Britain and instead settle in Canada and then eventually Los Angeles.

“She may quickly run into trouble when calculating her permissible absences from the UK,” said an article in Free Movement, a website set up by immigration lawyer Colin Yeo.

Buckingham Palace has always stressed she would not get preferential treatment in the process, which requires her to have lived in the UK for five years before lodging an official application, the UK Times said.

Once she applies, the rules state she must not have been out of the country for more than 270 days in the past three years, or 90 days in the previous month.

“She is going to be at the top end of that,” immigration lawyer Philip Trott told the paper. “There is no harm in being out, as long as you spend most of your time here.”

“The advice we normally give to clients is that most of your time means six months and one day every year,” he said — far more than reports suggest the Duchess wants to spend in Blighty.

One solution would be if Harry landed a diplomatic role overseas — such as governor general of Canada — which would make all their time abroad count the same as being home in Britain. That is unlikely to fit with their stated goals for more independence, however.

Either way, the duchess’ spokeswoman insisted to the paper, “There is no change in the fact that she is pursuing the path to British citizenship.”
KC said…
What makes something like this (and the other jewellery merch that previously got stamped on, don't recall the details off the top of my head sorry but I'm sure people know who I mean) different to the "femail fashion finder" pieces that seem to run in every DM article?

I think the vendor pays the DM, but not MM, for those ads.
Unknown said…
Hi Nutty

I think Trevor may be visible suddenly because Meghan must have contacted him. What's stopping her, except his new wife perhaps? Meghan has already done everything unthinkable so far. So I would say she made contact, with a string of futuristic ventures going his way. To possibly appease him just in case he does indeed do a tell all interview.

Let's hope Trevor new wife gets to spill the beans.

Admittedly his second wedding pictures were published in the media. So he is not camera shy.

How famous is he in Hollywood, as a director or producer? What does he produce or direct? Would they be looking to work together? Hasn't Meghan been known for zooming in on people only for opportunities! That's my take.
Anonymous said…


@Nutty, @Punkinseed

Trevity-Trev-Trev is a Hollywood producer, so this is manna from heaven for him. Some good pap shots and a great opportunity to reload his original 15-minute card. Of course, they were staged! Because otherwise, this would mean that he had not been seen in public for how many months since this merde started brewing? Yeah, no.

It was staged, he's happy for it, and he is now the wounded warrior who emerged victorious and healed after his encounter with a woman who is ultimately being revealed as the Clytemnestra and Circe types of femme fatale.

Also, just gotta say @Hikari I love the snake-eating-its-own-tail reference which is alchemical and the ouroboros is ultimately a positive outcome. I can't see one of those for Rach. However, it could be argued that the snake is the whole of the situation, too, so it's an apt reference and certainly fits the pit viper.
Unknown said…
re: Why Meg attended Northwestern?

I know many here seem to think that it was a waste of money for her to attend because of Meg’s career but college graduates aren’t uncommon in Hollywood. In fact, NWU is one of the more popular choices for those headed to Hollywood because of it’s acting program. Other popular schools highly represented in Hollywood are UCLA, NYU, and Yale Drama. One of the big reasons people attend the “elite” schools is the networking with students, faculty, and alumni.
KCM1212 said…
"Trevity Trev Trev"?

That is just embarassing. I would throw her under the bus for that alone..

Miggy said…
About to listen to Samantha Markle on Talk Radio with Dan Wootton.

Hope it's worth the wait.... LOL
KCM1212 said…
@KC (fabulous name, btw!)I

I totally missed that! "Gold tail" indeed!

A little first nations shade right there! LOL
Starry said…
Could the BRF have asked Trevor to show himself so that Harry could see that one could "thrive" post-Meg?
PaisleyGirl said…
The image of the Wolverine gnawing at the back of Harry's head will now be forever imprinted on my brain. Hahaha.
Humor Me said…
Good late morning all!
Nutty - thanks for the new thread....

I think the Media is desperate for news on H&M: a few days ago Cressida Bonas was approached and would not comment. Now it is Trevor's turn. Did someone find Chelsey and the chef, and the first husband from the annulment? So if it was planned or unplanned - meh.

As to Harry going bald (gasp) - the trait goes through the mother's family. Earl Spencer was bald. So to are his grandsons to varying degrees. My maternal grandfather was bald; my son looks like just him.

and lastly, I hope Samantha Markle receives oodles of flowers with notes of apology from the press.

Liver Bird said…
Samantha Markle interiew with Dan Wooton on Talk Radio imminently.
SwampWoman said…
@ Charade know many here seem to think that it was a waste of money for her to attend because of Meg’s career but college graduates aren’t uncommon in Hollywood. In fact, NWU is one of the more popular choices for those headed to Hollywood because of it’s acting program. Other popular schools highly represented in Hollywood are UCLA, NYU, and Yale Drama. One of the big reasons people attend the “elite” schools is the networking with students, faculty, and alumni.

I think you may also have nailed (the university degrees) why Hollywood has turned into the suck as far as movies go. Endless remakes of movies (Batman vs. the Nursing Home) or redoing old classics with a new woke cast instead of something original that people may actually want to pay to see. I can hardly wait to see The African Queen redone with the boat captain being the female and the lead male doing the Hepburn role (yeah, no).

Anonymous said…
@Swampwoman, I think that is very sensible! ESPECIALLY if one is only going for basic business, I agree. Go to a community college or do the MOOC option, learn the basics of accounting (the theory is very helpful) and finance, then find ways to fly your own kite, because as you correctly point out, the ROI may not be worth it and, again, not to discount the time value of money (Did you mean to pun that lol? because it's one I appreciate :). With IT this is esp true. There are online certifications handed out by Microsoft, and those can be taken to advanced system levels. In fact, I have uber-successful, highly-educated medical prof friends who have counseled their children re this, and discouraged degrees in certain areas where they are just not needed. Certainly, there are those fields where a little education is not a bad thing (engineering, law, medicine, architecture, accounting (if CPA is the end goal) are all good examples because, of course, one can't practice without it), but in general, I agree with you.

"OTOH, would she have attracted PH without said personality flaws? Narcs and BPD people can be *very* compelling. And you are the second BINGO winner for today. Exactly lol.


none said…
Favorite Samantha Markle quote. "She's the Duchess of Nonsense".
HappyDays said…
From the What-goes-around-comes-around department:

Some people think Meghan paid off Trevor and Cory to get them to sign NDAs so they wouldn’t say things that would end her plan to marry Harry. But there may be people who are willing to make it worth it to break the NDAs.

If she didn’t get NDAs and these men, especially Trevor, were just being civil, now that Meghan has totally revealed what a slimeball she is, Trevor may want to tell his story and get a big payout from it. Same for Cory.

Trevor was with her for 5 years as his girlfriend and almost 2 more married to Meghan, for a total of about 7 years, so he probably has a lot to say, especially about the woman who mailed her rings back to him out of the blue and according to Meghan’s dumped friend Ninaki Priddy, left Trevor feeling “like something stuck to the bottom of your shoe.”

As Meghan has dropped bombs on Trevor and now the RF and the entire UK, perhaps it’s Meghan’s karmic turn to have a bomb dropped on her.

Perhaps Meghan never watched the film Moonstruck, with Nicholas Cage and Cher, when her character told Nick’s character, “Don’t shit where you eat.”
Liver Bird said…
Samantha speaking to Dan Wooton now on Talk Radio. So far she sounds reasonable.
He’s a producer but by no means a famous one, it could be as simple as reminding studio heads and production companies that he’s out there and he may have some dirt. Information is currency and everyone in HW is a gossip and a starf***er, even though they all pretend they’re not. If five minutes of gossip about his ex wife gets his foot n a couple of doors to pitch his projects, what’s the harm? A tell-all interview might net him a quick profit but as everyone said, he hardly needs the money. His info is probably more valuable to him personally behind closed doors than out on the open market anyway. Also seems pretty likely the BRF isn’t going to pay to keep her dirty laundry in the hamper and the Sussexes themselves say (on their website!) that they don’t even have the money to support their own lifestyle, much less money to throw around to keep errant ex hubbies quiet.

Also forgive me if this has been covered on other threads (when it gets to 800 comments I just can’t keep up!), but Emily Andrews is on video saying that both Meghan AND Harry were supposed to return to Canada last Thursday. Anyone who believes these two were “forced” to release this news when they did is an utter moron at this point. They thought they could drop their bomb and hightail it out and the checks would just get forwarded to their new address in Canada, no problem! Meghan is no genius but she’s enough of a schemer to have probably realized that there would be some fallout. Harry, though, I think is genuinely surprised (and angry) to find himself still in the U.K. begging for money over a week later. No wonder he had his sour face on yesterday! Granny and Daddy refused to just give him what he demanded. The nerve of those meanies!
KCM1212 said…
A well-considered post on why HM must protect the "royal brand"

https://fromberkshiretobuckingham.blogspot.com/2020/01/thoughts-on-sandringham-summit.html
Hikari said…
@Seabee

>>>>If you claim to be Woke, PC, progressive and moreover, flip Donald Trump the bird, you are guaranteed the undying loyalty, and protective reporting of the mainstream media who will absolve all her obvious gold-digging, manipulation, lies, and bad acts by calling every detractor a racist.<<<

Oh, yeah, the liberal MSM would love that. They'd be falling all over themselves to feature that bird-flipping photo in full color.

There is at least one person who'd be less thrilled with it . . POTUS himself, who has already had the woke PC progressive treatment by being called "Syphilis" by the then-Duchess of SucksIt. The Duchess is extensively familiar with socially-transmitted diseases, in my (personal, unsubstantiated) opinion.

DT is known to be volatile . . and he has also publicly supported the Queen in this current fracas. He also doesn't flinch at being called racist, since he's experienced it plenty. POTUS could make her transition back into American life difficult if he wanted to. Harry might just find himself with visa issues at customs, and Meg's tax situation is going to be very messy.

I hope DT can refrain from bashing Meg on Twitter. He's got a re-election campaign to occupy himself. For all public figures and former figures from Meg's past, I prescribe the same advice: Bashing her publicly, spilling her dirty laundry, will only feed her Narcissistic fuel. Perversely, Narcs will court negative publicity if the alternative is NO publicity. Meghan needs to hear her name on everyone's lips constantly.

So the script should go like this:

Mr. President: Meghan Markle has called you a social disease and flipped you the bird in the MSM. What is your response to that?

DT: I didn't know that. Never met her. But I think the way Prince Harry has treated his grandmother is absolutely terrible. The Queen is a great woman. Family is everything.

Deprive her of fuel by ignoring her existence or any knowledge of her and what she does. Make it all about Harry, the 'true' royal. That is guaranteed to make her go ballistic and escalate her own self-destruction.

*************

Does anybody besides me find "Trevity-Trev-Trev" to be the most dismissive and childish nickname imaginable? Very schoolyardish and demeaning for the man who is providing you with everything. He probably hated it, which is why she kept using it. No 'just T'? No 'Trezza'? Nobody else probably wants to be responsible for coming up with 'Trevity Trev Trev' but she probably did steal it from someone else.
Anonymous said…
@Hikari thank you for my LOL : MM's modest level of talent. 'Modest' seems too optimistic. More like 'undetectable'. IMO, her talent was detectable, however; it was and is palpably bad.

but Hollywood is full of pretty girls with more to offer than a 'hot girl' look. Meg's claim to 'hot girl' was always rather tenuous; ...it reminded me of Miley Cyrus twerking. An average girl who wants so badly to be Hot... Meg's ambitions in the entertainment industry were always 'Reach Exceeding Grasp'.

At Rach's "hottest" during her suitcase days, she was still Number 24, on the back row, and looking like an apartment-sized fridge next to the tall-and-willowies. She must have hated that. Kate must have been a constant reminder of being the back-row-dumpy one (not that she was dumpy then, but just her body shape and size compared to the others-- some legs and some miles definitely longer than others lol). And I can't help but appreciate the irony that is her current Deal or No Deal situation -- I wonder if she recognizes the plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose of it all.
Fairy Crocodile said…
DId you see the Sun caught her "legs long as a mile" nonsense? Today's article tells she demanded her agent found jobs that would show off this "asset"

Without stiletto heels her legs are short.
KCM1212 said…
Blind item claiming Meg wants the residency requirements for the UK changed


https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/01/blind-item-4_17.html

I can't think why it would benefit her. Divorce?
Hikari said…
Paisley,

>>>The image of the Wolverine gnawing at the back of Harry's head will now be forever imprinted on my brain. Hahaha.<<<

I'm glad my little joke was so 'impactful' for you, lol.

Hugh Jackman is welcome to gnaw on any of my body parts he wishes . . it would hurt so good. The image I had in mind is of, not 'The' Wolverine, but 'a' wolverine .. one of those p*ss*d off forest dwellers of the northern climes that are so nasty that much larger predators avoid them. I saw video footage of a wolverine (about 35 pounds) taking on a grizzly bear, and it looked fairly evenly matched.

Meg is like a wolverine--viciousness in much greater proportion to size, often matted hair.

Bazinga!
none said…
Watched the home video of a day in the life 19-year-old MM. She was hustling back then. It's who she is and she'll never stop.
Mom Mobile said…
I think @Paisley Girl shared a link to the DM saying Baby Archie was a year old?

Interesting, especially since I read a rumor on Twitter that the surrogate gave birth in New York and that the baby shower was a cover to get the child into the UK. If true, that would put the baby at around a year old, right?

Yes, it sounds like a conspiracy theory but honestly, there have to be some shady happenings going on.

I think Trevor's pretty smart to get photographed. And yes, I definitely think it was staged! At the very least it will help him raise his profile and drum up more business for himself, regardless of whether or not he spills the MM beans.
none said…
@Mom Mobile...that was me. Here it is if interested.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7898971/Meghan-Markle-gifted-diamond-18ct-gold-tail-necklace-Nations-artist.html
Mom Mobile said…
Another thought, and along the same lines as the rumor I stated above...

I've always thought MM was PG on her wedding day and that was why there was a rush to the alter. Otherwise, why on earth would that wedding get pushed through?

Maybe the New York baby shower was just a cover to MM to get induced during that time? Didn't she fly back to the UK on Amal and George's jet? Not too difficult to carry a baby on undetected. Especially if she had a friend pretend it was her baby.
Glow W said…
Yes, she certainly could have gone to Northwestern to find a husband; who am I to say she did or didn’t? I was thrilled when my daughter changed her mind and chose to not to to Tulane because I figured she would meet someone from Westchester County New York and move there. We do tend to have romantic relationships during those years, so it would be possible for a woman at Northwestern to meet a successful partner there.


Something else.... what was it..... I guess I’ll do odds and ends

Trevor— he pops up every now and again so I don’t read anything into his sighting. If he had anything to say, he would have said it already. The press seems to hound their previous partners and I don’t think that is fair. Didn’t even even drag Koo Stark out recently?

Oh her English citizenship.... I have always doubted she was going to give up her USA citizenship. That would certainly confine her to the Commonwealth (or just the U.K.)...I don’t think she cares and it’s sort of an irrelevant point to me. It’s another clue she isn’t planning to go back to UK. Not a surprise.

TP the troll. I can’t help but look at TP1 because there is so much rejection of reality going on over there. See a video of her in a black Range Rover at the Victoria International Airport where she is driving and there is a protection officer in the passenger seat and yet people still won’t believe she is in Canada. It’s stunning to read.

Jen said…
@Elle....so that degree that I got in Post-Apocalyptic Women's Studies with the minor in Medieval Art specializing in torture devices isn't going to get me very far? :P

I don't have kids, but I help raise my brothers kids. My nephew is 17 and has no clue what he wants to do with his life. I keep telling him he doesn't HAVE to know, but he has to learn. I am pushing trade school. Learn a trade, become an apprentice. Plumbers/Electricians/Mechanics make good money and they will ALWAYS be in demand (if you are good).

Looking forward to seeing what Samantha Markle says...
Mom Mobile said…
Sorry @Holly! Thanks! :)
Liver Bird said…
"Oh her English citizenship.... I have always doubted she was going to give up her USA citizenship."

There's no such thing as 'English citizenship' but there would be no reason for her to give up her American citizenship as both countries allow dual nationality.

".I don’t think she cares and it’s sort of an irrelevant point to me."

Well, it's not irrelevant to me and I expect it's not irrelevant to millions of British citizens either. If she's not a British citizen and isn't resident in Britain or carryng out duties on behalf of Britain, why on earth should she enjoy all the benefits of a British title while she struts for her pap walks in LA?
Mom Mobile said…
And one more thing (Shout out to Columbo!)...

Has Archie's residency been discussed?! If she gave birth in New York, Archie would be a US citizen who could then easily gain dual citizenship.

Just saying...
Glow W said…
Getting back to Trevor: if MM is going to move back to his area, why would he poke the bear and potentially cause his new wife grief with either MM or the vicious sugars? My guess is he would smile, say he wished them well and happy she has a new baby, etc.
Glow W said…
@liver Bird yes I see your point. I was looking ahead to a future (how long does it take, like 5 years before the application can be looked at?) and in 5 years would they even still be married.



And what I mean for Trevor is I expect him to say nothing at all.
IEschew said…
@Tatty: I at first agreed the video was proof, but look at it and the photos again. Are Christmas decorations still up at the Victoria airport? Seems awfully late for Christmas decor. So now I’m not so sure. It’s the gaslighting effect - I follow logic in my normal life, but I feel like everything that seems real isn’t and the impossible is happening. I cannot imagine spending even one week with a person like Meghan.

I can’t help but look at TP either, and I toss out some crazy notions above. But everything is crazy and anything is possible in this insanity. It’s a wonder Harry can tie a shoe at this point (his own damn fault though it may be).
punkinseed said…
Thank you Hikari for answering my questions. I appreciate it.
Mom Mobile said…
Here's a tweet from TorontoPaper1 from Dec. 19th. Could it be the reason we're seeing Trevor now?

"Darling, so desperate that you are running back to your ex husband and his family?! They didn't deserve that shock!
He won't help you this time. Solve your mess yourself!"
I thought she was preggers from the smirk she gave Hazza when Archbish Welby got to the bit in the service about using aright the instincts implanted by God, cresting children thereby, or however it's phrased these days. This used to be a slightly embarrassing moment in the days of yore, when brides weren't really expected to know much about those sorts of things until the wedding night. Yet her expression also suggested something a bit devious to me, even before they took their vows.

There is a simple explanation, of course, her visa terms - the marriage had to take place within 6 months of the formal engagement, I understand.
Anonymous said…
@Jen, ....so that degree that I got in Post-Apocalyptic Women's Studies with the minor in Medieval Art specializing in torture devices isn't going to get me very far?

It might, but statistically speaking, I wouldn't double down on it lol. That said, and I know you are teasing, but I think all education is worth it. It's just that there are so many ways to get that education now that hardcore currency spent at university is certainly not the only option :)
Hikari said…
Off-topic personal anecdote trigger warning

@tatty
>>>I was thrilled when my daughter changed her mind and chose to not to to Tulane because I figured she would meet someone from Westchester County New York and move there<<<

I had to double-check myself that Tulane is in New Orleans . . are you from the South? I suppose a fair number of students from New York matriculate there; chances were even greater that your daughter would have met someone from Louisiana at Tulane, I suppose.

I attended a small private liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, a 45-minute drive from my parents' house across the border in Ohio. Since we were the neighboring state, Ohioans didn't have to pay out-of-state tuition, but despite being so close to the border, the school's student body was comprised of 90% Pennsylvanians and 10% everybody else, including internationals. My high school was huge, but only three of us matriculated there in my year. In my senior year, I sat next to a freshman girl from Southern California in one of my lecture courses. She intrigued me . . a transplanted Californian at a very obscure, tiny college at the foothills of the Allegheny Mountains. Coal mining and Amish, that's what was around there. How did she even hear of it? She had come Northeast with minimal possessions and wore the same uniform every day--all black, topped with a wool overcoat and what looked rather like men's brogues. This Goth-emo minimalist aesthetic (before minimalism was the thing--this was the late '80s) put her out of step with beachy, bright-colors SoCal, which is probably why she selected a place in bleak Western PA. So maybe a blueblood scion from Westchester might want to flee those WASPy environs for the Big Easy and the envisioned laid back Southern hospitality amidst the magnolias and the gumbo.

Darby Shaw, the fictional heroine of The Pelican Brief, is a standout at Tulane. Here are some real famous alumni. Incidentally, and this is kind of delicious, Bruce Paltrow, father of GOOP founder Gwyneth was a Tulane graduate. Meg seems to want to model her post-Royal life on Gwyneth's vagina scented candle selling SM empire.

I thought Bill Hurt went to Tulane, but I was mixed up . . he went to Tufts.

https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-tulane-university-alumni-and-students/reference
Glow W said…
@mobile mom when TP1 tweeted that, he was in NY celebrating the Jewish holidays. I guess it’s fun to say things about people when you know they aren’t going to reply. And why would that cause us to see Trevor at the hair salon a month later?

I’m willing to listen to replies, but there is nothing disproving she was in Canada with Archie and Harrry (which is the palace narrative).

I’m more of a sleuther over a gossiper so I try to figure out the puzzle....
Gnawed by a wolverine? Hmm.

I wonder if she'll demonstrate her commitment to saving Canadian wildlife in the heedless way she usually assaults innocent bystanders? Better not greet a grizzly or pet a polar bear for the sake of the photos.
Liver Bird said…
"there is nothing disproving she was in Canada with Archie and Harrry (which is the palace narrative)."

I'm pretty sure the palace has not made any comment about her alleged whereabouts.
Glow W said…
@Hikari yes I am in the south. I think statistic is 75% of students at Tulane are from places other than Louisiana with the majority coming from New England, Texas, Colorado and California. They have a Louisiana recruitment program going on because they have so few Louisiana students that it’s not a southern experience. It’s a Long Island experience.

@ieschew who is it here who lives near Saanich? Could we have our own sleuther to go check the decor? Lol. Though that would have been better yesterday. Has anyone checked her visitor’s IG?

It was only January 16th yesterday so I suppose decorations could be up, especially if the weather has been uncooperative. Our weather has been uncooperative for a week so my porch has Christmas decorations, taken down but still there waiting to go to the storage unit.

I read Christmas decorations stay up at Sandringham until February 6.

In the South, they stay up at least until 12th night, which is January 6.

I don’t think it’s impossible for some decor to still be up.
Jen said…
@Tatty (not trying to be argumentative, but you ask the same of others) how do you know he was in NY on the 19th celebrating Hanukkah (which incidentally didn't begin until Dec 22)? Not that I've looked, but haven't heard much about him, so was curious how you knew.

Glow W said…
*a Long Island experience with gumbo, Mardi Gras and the big easy I suppose.

@liver bird you could be right about that. My head is jumbled with everything I have read. Maybe it is their office and not BP who issued a statement.
Mom Mobile said…
@tatty, That's the question. Why would Trevor turn up a month later? Especially if he planned it.

And also, I respect that you're interested in facts. Just know that I'm in it for the entertainment.
Glow W said…
@jen I believe his twitter or IG showed it. I didn’t personally check it (really, kill me If I start stalking the exes)... chalk it up to hearsay I guess, I want to say maybe there were screen shots. Idk
Glow W said…
@mom that’s cool. We have such a great sleuthing going on here, sometimes I forget many people are here for the gossip. 😉
Glow W said…
Also, off topic, I have a bad headache today so I should probably get off the internet but then I’m so bored I get back on the internet.
FrenchieLiv said…
Hi everyone,

---) Off topic.
I just saw this article:
Why does Kate Middleton wear so many plasters? Duchess spotted with ANOTHER on her hand in Bradford:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9135479/kate-middleton-plasters-duchess-bradford/

« So why all the cuts?
Has she been nicking herself cooking, are the kids accidentally scratching her or do the Cambridges have a secret cat we don't know about?
The answer, we're afraid, is nobody really knows.
Buckingham Palace refused to comment when they were approached by The Mirror, insisting: “We have no comment on the plaster.” »
Interesting that that article was originally published in may 2019 and has been updated yesterday…
We have heard about rumours concerning « skinny Kate » and possible eating disorders for a long time.
However, I immediately thought it may be nasty gossips from Meghan’s « pals ».

@Nutty, you mentioned possible dirty laundry coming out in French press. I googled « finger bulimia » (in French)
There are plenty of articles on that topic (Kate wearing plasters because of eating disorders) in French gossip magazines.
If it’s true, I am sure this is the kind of thing Harry may have told to Rachel and she could use for blackmail (it would destroy Kate she hates so much).
Glow W said…
DM says mexif announcement is imminent:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7899875/Queens-aides-finalise-details-Megxit-deal-announcement-imminent.html
Glow W said…
@frenchie Liv I admit I have wondered if kate has an eating disorder because she wears high neck, long sleeve, long hem outfits, which is something people with anorexia do to disguise how think they are. I thought her slim green coat looked loose the other day. It could be weight loss from stress.

I have excema and it attacks my fingers, so in the end I decided maybe she has eczema.
Hikari said…
@Elle,

Virtual Latte of the Day goes to you for . .

>>>At Rach's "hottest" during her suitcase days, she was still Number 24, on the back row, and looking like an apartment-sized fridge next to the tall-and-willowies.<<<

I had to wipe a tear of mirth from mine eye, even if I do resemble a 3/4 sized fridge myself.

In school pictures, they always put the shortest kids in the front row, so they seemed rather determined to hide Meg as much as possible. I probably saw 'Number 24' during the (brief) period I watched Deal, though she only stayed half a season, so we may have not overlapped. Meg would be furious to hear that I don't remember her. I've seen the photos of her vamping in the tiny red dress with her mouth open like a maniacal mannequin, but that was the 'professional pose' for them all, wasn't it? Given that literally thousands of girls must have auditioned to be one of the 'briefcase girls', it's miraculous that Meg was chosen as one of the 'Mile Long' club. Perhaps she demonstrated her determination to join said club by doing the 'Mile High' club with one of the producers or the casting director? I'm sure she wasn't alone there.

I would have pegged Meghan to have tried to break into beauty pageants during her teen years, with Daddy footing the bills, of course. Most of the contestants are aspiring actresses and singers. But pageant contestants start very early, and Doria wasn't around to be a pageant mom. Honey Boo-Boo is proof that a kid doesn't have to be gorgeous to participate in pageants--they will take any parent's money who is willing to fork over for the entrance fees and all the paraphernalia. The baby narco we saw in the Nickelodeon segment was a homely child. But at that time, she seemed to be focusing on her brain and her penmanship to get positive attention, and was a natural-looking little girl with Black hair. When did it turn into an obsession with looks and vapidity? If she'd stayed with the 'social activism/good student' thing and really learned those foreign languages, she might be a foreign diplomat now. Was there never any substance to her even as a kid? Her teacher seemed impressed enough, and the Nick producers to make her the centerpiece of that segment. Could she have gone another way? One wonders.
KCM1212 said…
@frenchie Liv
I like that "finger bulimia". Another charity opportunity presents itself!

When my sister was potty-training her youngest, she would apply a bandaid to my niece whenever the job was completed to everyone's satisfaction. My niece was a huge fan of those funny kids bandaids. So they both walked around with many bandaids for several weeks.I

Maybe Boss Baby is fighting the good fight for bandaids.

Hikari said…
Re. Kate's cuts

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9135479/kate-middleton-plasters-duchess-bradford/

>>>« So why all the cuts?
Has she been nicking herself cooking, are the kids accidentally scratching her or do the Cambridges have a secret cat we don't know about?
The answer, we're afraid, is nobody really knows.
Buckingham Palace refused to comment when they were approached by The Mirror, insisting: “We have no comment on the plaster.” »
Interesting that that article was originally published in may 2019 and has been updated yesterday…
We have heard about rumours concerning « skinny Kate » and possible eating disorders for a long time.
However, I immediately thought it may be nasty gossips from Meghan’s « pals ».

@Nutty, you mentioned possible dirty laundry coming out in French press. I googled « finger bulimia » (in French)
There are plenty of articles on that topic (Kate wearing plasters because of eating disorders) in French gossip magazines.
If it’s true, I am sure this is the kind of thing Harry may have told to Rachel and she could use for blackmail (it would destroy Kate she hates so much).<<<

Ah, dear, I hope it's not an eating disorder. If she does struggle with this, the amount of stress she must be under with Megxit would be a trigger.

I prefer to think that it's a cooking injury . . Kate does enjoy cooking at KP. But it's a truism that men are attracted to women like their mothers, usually subliminally--Meg counted on this and it worked. Kate is very like Diana in some ways--tall, sporty, nurturing, loves children, great hair, big blue eyes with a lot of eyeliner . . Di struggled with bulimia for years, and self-image is always at the root.

Would William have chosen a woman with Food Issues like his mom had? It could have happened. I hope for Kate's sake that her very slender frame is all healthy eating and high metabolism, but after three babies, and approaching 40 . . I have wondered, myself. She usually is smiling and looking great, but once in a while, we get a picture where she is looking very haggard and I think, "She isn't going to age well."
Mom Mobile said…
@tatty, it's all good. I think most of us here want the truth. Honestly, I'd love it if I turned out to be right. LOL

@FrenchiLiv I certainly hope those rumors aren't true but I'd also understand if they were. I can't imagine how much scrutiny she's under. And so much stress! Yes, she chose to marry William but she never asked Harry to marry a hand grenade.
Sarah said…
Just a couple of thoughts.
I bet her dad took out those parent plus loans to pay for her college. Those would be in his name.
There’s a test called the Foreign Service Exam that you have to take to have a career working at embassies. I assume she didn’t do well. Hence the career shift to acting.
I’m a couple of years older than Meghan. My first year of college they had a getting acquainted thing where we went around a circle and stated career goals. I was shocked when someone said they were husband hunting.
Looks like Beatrice and Edo are still together. They were pictured skiing
punkinseed said…
From Samanatha Markle's interview today: "...Ms Markle also appeared to deny that the criticisms of her half-sister were laced with racism, calling the claim: 'A misplacement of blame to avoid accountability'."
Indeed! Great definition when interviewers or others try to use race as a way to deflect exposure of actions that are simply very bad manners or disrespect of others.
punkinseed said…
Sarah, it takes some decent preparation to pass the Foreign Service Exam. There's a sample one online if you want to take it. It's not an easy test.
abbyh said…

thoughts about Trevor

Living well is the best revenge.

someone asked about Trevor and what has he done?

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0257333/?ref_=nmbio_sp_2

forensic accountants

oh, I think the murmurs about questioning the foundation accounting may have risen since that time (aided by MI5&6 maybe) but I think it was the people who were supposed to getting her USA taxes done for last year who may have been leading the pack. Her lack of attention to details would have made the whole thing very hard from the start. One can only push that stuff (or the lack of receipts or produce questionable receipts) for so long. 2018 deadlines in 2019 have come and gone. And, doing them is not fun.


Medieval Art and torture devices? I'm sure there is a market somewhere for this. I just don't think it is pg rated though. There used to be a bumper sticker: Don't tell my mamma I work in the oil field. She thinks I'm a piano player in a whore house.

Seriously, trades are always going to be needed. Mike Rowe is big into that and has some scholarships for people of limited financial assets.


lizzie said…
Not all, but the vast majority of Kate's plasters are on her right hand. That makes it seem unlikely they are from cooking injuries from distracted chopping since she is right-handed. Could be cooking burns I guess.
Sandie said…
@Nutty Flavor:

'Fedde, he staged that photo in co-operation the paps. Don't be näive.

Hollywood is a town of image. He looked fabulous, he was going to a fabulous place, he was driving a fabulous car.

Planned and staged. The only question is why.'

Speculation here ... but maybe she is trying to get a job in Hollywood through her business team and Trevor is sending a clear message that Hollywood is his town and if she crosses into his territory, the gloves are off.

There have been reports about her ambition to be a producer. Megsy is deluded enough and has enough arrogance (what she calls positive thinking) to believe that she can be a star in Hollywood as a major producer. Trevor knows she is a human wrecking ball ... he does not want her in his backyard (and maybe a bit of 'revenge is sweet', although he seems to have moved on very happily and one of the things you need to do for that is let go of the past).

Does anyone really think Megsy is spending all that time in her freebie mansion in Canada bonding with her child and doing research and making connections for real meaningful charity/philanthropic work? Nope, she is working on her global fame and wealth, the shortcut route.
luxem said…
What if Rach contacted Trev to offer a deal - NDA no longer in effect, so go ahead with the movie about an American marrying a prince and I'll give you a bunch of behind-the-scene details? Of course there will be a disclaimer saying it is work of fiction. Both will make money (assuming people are interested) and Rach gets her side of the story out, albeit somewhat disguised. Maybe Trev took her up and is looking for backers, or maybe TP1 is correct and he ignored her but has other projects ready to go.

Diana made a very public visit to NU in 1996, when Rach would have been in HS and contemplating college choices. Given her obsession about Diana, she may of chosen NU hoping to make connections.
Hikari said…
>>>>From Samanatha Markle's interview today: "...Ms Markle also appeared to deny that the criticisms of her half-sister were laced with racism, calling the claim: 'A misplacement of blame to avoid accountability'."<<<<

I am getting to like Samantha more and more.

Before the wedding, I thought she was crazy-jealous & unhinged. Trying to storm the gates of the castle to be admitted to the wedding, with her two wife-beater wearing sons??? I believe that was a paid stunt, and the Markles are always in need of money. Hence all the shooting her mouth off before the wedding. And Tom, Jr.'s letter to Harry.

Meghan's birth family no longer looks so crazy anymore. In their own hill-jack way, they *did* try to warn us (and Harry) about her. Had he listened, he wouldn't be in this mess now. They were unreliable witnesses though. I dismissed them as, well, hilljacks trying to cash in on the sudden fame of their family member.

Samantha may very well have come up with that sound bite on her own; it kind of sounds like she was coached or has been to therapy. Maybe she's been reading HG Tudor's Narcsite?

Anyway, she has been vindicated--Meghan is the kind of person Samantha was always telling us she was. Also, I got more sympathy for Sam ('Sami' her dad calls her, which Meg was probably jealous of, nicknames from daddy) when I learned she has MS. Not that Meg cares.

I wonder if we will ever substantiate the rumor that Samantha raised the daughter Meg gave birth to in high school as her own? Perhaps as an ostensibly practicing Catholic and a teen, she did not or could not seek the alleviation of any such family-way problem which she may or may not have sought when she was allegedly pregnant on Suits with (allegedly) Trevor's baby. Or maybe it was another man's baby. Either way, hurtful to her husband in the extreme.

****the above is all mere speculation**** But if Kate is a speculative anorexic, we will balance the scales by speculating how many times in her life Rachel has *actually* been pregnant, long before a real pregnancy would have been beneficial, economically speaking.
Tea Cup said…
The current rumor is Megxit announcement happening sometime today. Isn't this one of the tricks of the trade in news cycles on how to somewhat blunt a story, release the announcement late on a Friday afternoon when everybody's thoughts are already preoccupied with the weekend? In any case, I still have no faith in Charles (NONE) to effectively manage the situation, same for DumDum's 93 year old grandmother.

MM's overt pr "charity" stunts (and stirrings of merch deals) says to me she is exuberantly confident she is getting what she is demanding from the BRF. Whether the Windsors really have any game left or enough crafty cleverness to lay the pieces in place for a future edition of checkmate remains to be seen. I say no.

Pretty damning that it is now up to the Hollywood cesspit that will determine the level of MM's quest for domination.
Sarah said…
I don’t believe Kate has an eating disorder. She’s tall athletic and naturally slim. Look at her family. I always assumed she got little knicks as you do from household chores, sports and playing with kids. I assume the bandages are because she’s in public shaking hands. Any open wound is unhygienic in that situation.
pi said…
@punkinseed

"Tatty, prestigious is what made it desirable for Rach. And just because the MRS degree was pre 1960's for women who wanted to seek eligible men, that didn't stop nor end at Women's Lib for women who are stalkers like Rach. Colleges are still hunting grounds, so no, it's not something that is just 1950's.

Agreed. Meghan is a troglodyte when it comes to male-female relationships. She is stuck pre-Women's Liberation as she is one entitled princess (thanks daddy); it's the financial support from men that she wants. She perceives men as having all the power and she wants some through them. I find this to be the supreme weakness in her.

Feminism is just one of many useful tools for her to get that money and support, but damn, though strong in manipulation, in reality Meghan Markle is a throwback to more regressive, primal times. I mean, look what she did. Produced a kid (we don't really know how) immediately. She is so basic.

I find narcissists to be enormously predictable, simple and rigid in their motivations and behaviour. Meghan Markle is a true sexist.
Glow W said…
Yesterday, Dan Wootton says the queen capitulated to H + M so I thought hummmm, I wonder if he knows how it’s going behind the scenes.

As for speculation on Kate, I think are all worried about her IF she has eating disorder tendencies. She had a pefect image to live up to and with MM going sideways, it puts more pressure on Catherine to be a perfect wife, mother, future queen consort, perfect dressed, nary a hair it of place, never steps out of line etc. in many ways these events could stifle Kate even more. Bulimia is actual vomiting because you can’t emotionally vomit (simplified) by expressing feelings and fixing dysfunctional situation and events.

We are speculating because we are worried.
Sandie said…
I don't think Kate has an eating disorder, but someone has been very successful in getting the rumour out there in an underhand way.

Find photos that show Kate's arms and then ones that show Diane's arms when she was in the grip of bulimia. (Karen Carpenter is another example of what skinny because of an eating disorder looks like.) The difference is obvious.

Most people are overweight because we eat too much, eat the wrong foods and don't exercise enough. And, in the fashion industry, women DO starve themselves to achieve a waif-like/skinny look. The image of what is healthy has thus been completely distorted.

Kate is very slim because (1) she has the financial circumstances to be able to eat a healthy balanced diet, no matter how busy she is (and a healthy balanced diet does include treats), (2) she has found the diet and active lifestyle that is appropriate for her, and (3) she comes a from a family that are active, healthy and certainly not overweight (good genes).
Regarding Kate's slimness, I read in several places last summer that she's on the Keto diet. I've been on Keto going on 12 years and I'm just as thin as she is. When I started, it was called low carb or Atkins diet back then. I'm continually told to put on 15 lbs. by friends and family, but my doctor is thrilled with my weight.
Glow W said…
I also wondered if Harry was doing keto because some people complain of hair loss when on keto.
none said…
If keto causes hair loss maybe MM's on it too.
Ava C said…
About the announcement due to come out 'imminently', the DM reports that titles, security and future finances remain to be ironed out (as we expected) so I don't see how this announcement can be anything of significant interest as titles, security and future finances cover everything that matters. Unless it is what Harry is actually to DO in the short to medium-term. Do we expect just another word salad? Hope not, but I'm tired of this diet of incandescent rage followed by damp squibs.
Unknown said…
@Hikari "Nobody else probably wants to be responsible for coming up with 'Trevity Trev Trev' but she probably did steal it from someone else."

This is possibly MM's sole original thought. Could explain why she's never had another.
lizzie said…
Let's not give M too much power--- concerns about Kate's weight were around for years before M was. They periodically surface.
For example, here is one from 2012 and one from 2011. https://m.eonline.com/news/251297/why-is-kate-so-thin-palace-sources-weigh-in

https://www.eonline.com/fr/news/343511/katie-couric-says-kate-middleton-is-too-thin
Ian's Girl said…
“what you gonna do” in questions to Meg twice recently. Ring bells for anyone? Significant?


******

What stuck out for me immediately is the line that follows on: " Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?"
Dido said…
OT, but might be relevant. I have a friend in the military who is privvy to info. before the public. Per RUMINT, PP has passed away. This could be a total prank, but the text was totally out of the blue and we haven't spoken discussed MM & PH since they decided to "step back as senior royals". (Also, I haven't read through this whole thread, so someone might have mentioned it already.)

If this is true & PP has died, then that might explain why Harry is still in the UK.

If this rumor turns out to be just a rumor and false, I will delete.
I didn't lose my hair, but I immediately went through a very quick menopause. Estrogen is stored in fat cells, so when I lost weight, it was enough to tell my body to shut it down. I lost about 35 lbs. in 2-1/2 months and was happy to get menopause out of the way, without hot flashes or all the other symptoms that go with it.
Glow W said…
Twitter only has 2 posts about PP dead (so far)

“I have a really weird feeling that prince Phillip is dead” 4 hours ago random person

“Hearing that prince Phillip is dead, folks” 3 hours ago random person
Wanda said…
Trevity Trev Trevor surfaces in the middle of Megxit! Well we just KNOW there is some kind of clue to ponder about with that appearance. I remember early in the first year of Megomania reading that it was the RF and/or British government that went around scrubbing Meghan's background - probably as soon as it became clear Harry couldn't be talked out of marrying her.

@Nutty - Although there have been hints about MM going back into the entertainment business, besides the issues of her being hard to work with - she is just an awful actress. I semi-watched one of her Hallmark/Lifetime movies the other day and she was so stiff and dull - far worse than she was on Suits. What really struck me was she CONSTANTLY touched her hair throughout the entire movie. I guess that must be a habit of hers - one so strong that she can't control it while acting in a movie nor while playing duchess of the BRF. Good thing she doesn't have a nose-picking habit.

I think it was on LSA where the posters were saying her acting skills were so bad that she was unable to parlay them into a regular series of Hallmark/Lifetime movies like Candace Cameron Bure, Kellie Martin and many others did.

@Camper - I agree that "what you gonna do" is from that show tune Bad Boys. I thought so right away when I read your post.
IEschew said…
@Ian’s Girl, I said this upthread but no one responded. I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed!

@Dido I hope so hard that it is a prank.
Ava C said…
Kate and anorexia - you can see she is toned and strong. That's not anorexia. Then google 'Diana thin' and see her arms like pale twigs. I've been borderline anorexic myself and I certainly wasn't the picture of health that Kate presents every time we see her. She looks as if she has a full, active life as a hands-on mother.

As someone else mentioned, there's also working in the garden, which we know her children also do. Plasters would then be essential for resulting nicks and cuts, at events where she is shaking hands. Part of good grooming also, given she has to deal with it somehow.

It amazes me how immaculate Kate always is. I know she has help, but to go on doing it year after year. Always reminds me of how tiring I find it getting dressed up for the grander weddings in my family and staying like that for hours. I just flake out afterwards. She goes back to a house of rambunctious children dying to be reunited with their mummy as soon as she walks in the door. Children are children, whether royal or not.
Ava C said…
Just seen PP comments above. Do hope it's a prank or mistake. He looked A LOT better on the day of the Sandringham summit. Much more like himself, as far as you could see. Fingers crossed.
Glow W said…
3 hours ago random poster asked “can anyone confirm operation forth bridge”
Dido said…
@tatty Twitter only has 2 posts about PP dead (so far)
“I have a really weird feeling that prince Phillip is dead” 4 hours ago random person
“Hearing that prince Phillip is dead, folks” 3 hours ago random person


Ok, I didn't check social media. Thanks for the update. Who knows, this could just be a rumor. But if it is true, M & H will be chided even more.
Ian's Girl said…
My God, I hope PP hasn't died. He's always been my 2nd favorite Royal next to HM, so I'd be distraught anyway, but the timing of it!

At his age it wouldn't be fair to blame it on the hellstorm Harry has rained down upon the Monarchy, but you can easily say this ungodly mess contributed to it.

When it all first started, I was worried about the physical effect it would have upon HM and PP.
Glow W said…
I also hope it’s a rumor. I read BBC wouldn’t announce it until 8am the next day, so we will find out in about 12 hours.
Glow W said…
Ok if I search twitter for “prince Phillip died” there are several more posts and mentioning what’s app. That heathrow was closed because of the emergency and it’s related to pp dying
Teasmade said…
@Hikari (and others) I am willing to believe any and all rumor. We know she's a user and a liar. But if she's been pregnant before, how did she do such a god-awful impersonation of a pregnant woman? (I mean, yes, she's a bad actress, but still.)

I would love nothing more than to have the fauxie (forgot how we're spelling it) subterfuge unearthed, and having a hidden teenage daughter surface would be extra-juicy.

If *I* were impersonating pregnancy, I would disappear for the first trimester and often have a nauseated expression when I had to appear in public. And if I stooped down IN STILETTOS in the third trimester (LOL), I'd wobble pathetically and gesture for an RPO or two to get me back upright again.

So . . .bad acting? Never pregnant? Thinks she's smarter than we are?
Hikari said…
@Ava,

Eating disorders are cyclical for many sufferers . . they go through bouts where the signs are visible, then they get it under control for a while, until their stress levels escalate again.

Diana struggled with bulimia as a teen at boarding school, recovered somewhat but then Charles's offhand comment about her being pudgy in her engagement dress/the stress of the wedding kicked it off again. She continued to purge throughout her marriage, with the nadir being after she gave birth to Harry and she realized that her marriage was over in all but name. Apart from that period, she looked athletic and healthy most of the time when she was purging in secret.

Catherine is very delicately boned but when it was reported that she is 125 pounds at 5'10" that does give me pause. I've never seen a tinier waist than hers even in corsetted women. Pippa is naturally slender also, but she's got curves which Kate lacks. More meat on her. Kate herself was heavier before she got engaged to William, showing mostly in her face as it does with the very young.

The burden to be perfect is heavy, and she's got to be Queen in Waiting while the media coverage is constant. Her children are all healthy, but I have considered that Catherine's debilitating morning sickness is directly tied to her extremely low body weight relative to her height. There is no body fat on her to speak of. Is the HG a signal that the body regards a pregnancy as unsustainable if it is survive itself? Her sister is now a celebrity in her own right and we've had no news that she or Carole suffered likewise with the HG. Catherine is much thinner than either of them.
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