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Here comes Trevor

If you're a Beatles fan, you'll know that in the fifty years since the group went its separate ways, almost everyone involved with them has sold his or her story.

Only one major figure has not: Jane Asher, who was Paul McCartney's girlfriend for five years during the heyday of the group, and accompanied him on the famous trip to India in 1968. An actress, Jane went on to become a TV personality and famous cake-baker. She has never spoken about her time with McCartney and dislikes being asked.

Until recently, the Sussex saga had included a similar figure: Trevor Engelson, Meghan Markle's ex-husband. 

Trevor has never spoken about Meg. But he has done well for himself: he married a wealthy woman, continues to work as a producer, and seems to have a loyal (and multi-racial!) circle of friends, unlike some people we know. 

He appeared to have excused himself from the whole soggy mess. 

Until yesterday, when he was papped.

Driving his black Porsche to Beverly Hills


The Daily Mail exclusively caught Trevor getting his hair trimmed in a Beverly Hills salon. Trevor "politely declined to comment" on Meghan and Harry's story. 

But the photo shoot seemed planned and pre-approved. Trevor was nicely dressed in a black sweater with matching trousers and Gucci athletic shoes - the casual look of the wealthy Californian - plus carrying what must be a late-model black phone and driving his black Porsche 911. 

No putting-out-the-garbage-in-my-bathrobe photos for "Trevety-trev-trev," as Meghan used to call him. 

And he was remarkably calm for a man supposedly caught by surprise. "You have a good day," he told the photographer.

Here come the ghosts 

What is Trevor doing back in the Sussex story? Was he paid to go away or being paid on a regular basis to be quiet, and now feels the deal is off?

Is this public appearance a clue to interested parties that he is ready to sell his story at the right price?

Maybe his reappearance is being used as some sort of message to Meg. "You're not welcome in Hollywood" or "your past is about to come out"?

Or is it just a case of a paparazzi who saw his chance and took it? 

Perhaps now that Meg is no longer protected by the Royal Family, her ghosts are beginning to reappear. 

How long until we hear from Cory the chef, Meg's "niece" Noel Rasmussen, or even the mysterious Joseph Goldman-Giuliano?

Comments

Glow W said…
Probably just a rumor because at 98 and recently in hospital, rumors are bound to happen.
Glow W said…
Well, it is interesting. RAF Northolt needed the runway for an unplanned non emergency thing. RAF Northolt is where they landed with Diana’s body and is where the queen’s color guard is stationed.

So you can see how people went there with the idea PP might have died
Fifi LaRue said…
Markle traded in a successful, obviously bright, handsome man who knows how to dress, has a wide circle of friends for: an arrogant dimwit who wears the same stained clothes over and over, and has no idea how to make a living except as a sponge, and has no friends.
Dido said…
@tatty I also hope it’s a rumor. I read BBC wouldn’t announce it until 8am the next day, so we will find out in about 12 hours.

I also remember reading something along these lines. "Forth Bridge" is the code word for Philip's death.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/5-secret-codewords-used-deaths-10038869

https://metro.co.uk/2017/08/02/heres-what-will-happen-when-prince-philip-dies-6823754/
punkinseed said…
Nutty, maybe it's possible that the Trevor photo op was his way of suggesting to Megs that she can't park her tanks on his lawn if she's seeking to do any sort of producer ideas anywhere near his concentric circles. A subliminal way of saying, Don't try it.
Wanda said…
@Tatty could we stop with all the PP comments unless/until we hear something formal? It's upsetting and there have been a lot of pranks lately about the senior RF members.
DesignDoctor said…
DM (in the article about the Megxit announcement) has a picture of the Queen in a car today and she looks OK. Don't you think if PP was near death she would look more somber?
Dido said…
Re: Trevor (in his Gucci sneakers)

I think that paparazzi probably started to stake out his house again, after H & M's announcement. It also serves a reminder to M that LA is his town now, so should she want to return-- she needs to know that she needs to play nice.
Wanda said…
Sarah said...
"There’s a test called the Foreign Service Exam that you have to take to have a career working at embassies. I assume she didn’t do well. Hence the career shift to acting."

Her uncle got her the position and she failed the test. Even though this was supposedly one of her dual majors.
punkinseed said…
Blue Bell and Sarah, that's what I read too. Plus, she didn't finish her internship in Buenos Areis because she hooked up with a Spanish rich guy who took her to Spain? Something like that was the story anyway.
DesignDoctor said…
@rabbit
Markle traded in a successful, obviously bright, handsome man who knows how to dress, has a wide circle of friends for: an arrogant dimwit who wears the same stained clothes over and over

Anyone else notice that Harry had oh the same suit and tie as the day they went to Canada House?

and has no idea how to make a living except as a sponge, and has no friends.
Harry had friends before Meg isolated him.

I actually thought he looked more like the old Harry yesterday at BP. At least he looked well-dressed and pulled together. He looks so much better without her!
FrenchieLiv said…
Nutties : You may be onto something :

Meghan Markle makes bizarre change to her outfit between secret visits in Canada :
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-makes-bizarre-change-21291720

"But she made one change to her otherwise identical outfits between the two events - and it's a tad surprising."
Hikari said…
@rabbit,

>>>Markle traded in a successful, obviously bright, handsome man who knows how to dress, has a wide circle of friends for: an arrogant dimwit who wears the same stained clothes over and over, and has no idea how to make a living except as a sponge, and has no friends.<<<

Let's not forget that the Trev trade-in wasn't for Harry .. it was for her great new career as the next Angie Harmon. Or at least, the next Ally McBeal. When Suits failed to catapult her to the A-list, she took up with Corey, also a bright, successful handsome well-dressed and talented/influential man with lots of friends and his own business empire. This is who she traded in for the arrogant dimwit with the frat boy fashion sense.

My goodwill toward Harry is running low these days but Meg had a very active hand in his present deterioration. He might have always been an arrogant dimwit, but he used to dress nicely/appropriately and seem, for much of the time, cheerful. He had many friends, too, once . . she is mostly responsible for them all disappearing.

******

All good wishes and prayers to the Duke of Edinburgh, who looked, the last time we saw him, like a man who still had agency in this world. He was not too sick to get dressed to go out and have himself driven away from Sandringham and his home comforts to make a point. A very pointed point to his errant knobhead of a grandson. I wonder what he and his RPO did while out . . go for chips? LOL

Prince Philip Will stand on the Bridge of Forth and tell the Grim Reaper, "F#ck off--You. Shall. Not. Pass!!!" I'm sure he's determined to see this Megxit thing through, at the very least.

Dido said…
@BlueBell @Sarah Re: MM & Foreign Service Exam

By the start of her junior year, it was clear that if Meghan continued at her current pace she would earn most of her credits for her degree way ahead of schedule. As she had time on her side and was still unsure about her path after college, she decided to go into the field to gain some practical experience in international relations. She knew that her uncle Mick Markle was employed as a specialist in communication systems for the US government—the talk in the family was that he worked for the CIA, the government’s overseas spying arm. So she approached him to ask for his help in getting her an internship abroad with the State Department. “Meghan, I will help you if I can,” he replied. Help he did. Uncle Mick pulled a few strings, and even though Meghan was quite late in turning in the application paperwork, that was overlooked because of her excellent academic record and her uncle’s influence. Soon after, she was informed that she had secured a six-week internship as a junior press officer at the American embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Further in the chapter: Certainly she was sufficiently committed to a career with the State Department to take the Foreign Service Officer Test while she was still in Argentina. The three-hour exam is a mix of politics, history, general knowledge, and math, requiring an awareness of everything from the origin of be-bop to East Asian labor laws. It proved a stretch too far, and Meghan failed the exam. There were consolations, though: Meghan spent a further six weeks from school at the IES study program in Madrid, where she polished her Spanish. When she returned to Northwestern she was able to regale her friends with tales of tapas and tango, and tried to brush off her disappointment at missing the mark on her Foreign Service Officer test. In any case, fate, it would seem, was pushing her into the world of entertainment. Her lighting director father pulled favors to put her forward for a casual role on General Hospital, just as he had done with his eldest daughter almost a decade earlier. In November 2002, Meghan auditioned for a day player role where she said around five lines. Thanks to her father’s influence, she got the part. The episode aired just before Thanksgiving.

Morton, Andrew. Meghan (pp. 62-63). Grand Central Publishing. Kindle Edition.
DesignDoctor said…
@Ava C

I think Kate is so thin because she is very aware of being on camera from all angles either video or still. To look great I would imagine is a lot of pressure. I agree with you--she is thin, but looks toned and healthy
Hikari said…
@DD

>>> actually thought he looked more like the old Harry yesterday at BP. At least he looked well-dressed and pulled together. He looks so much better without her!<<<

Yes, he looked good. Pretty hyped up. I noted that when he entered the hall, heads on both sides bowed in deference as he passed. I thought, "That won't be happening where you're going, mate--best get used to it." But of course, such deference is one of the aspects of his hated life that makes it existing, not thriving.

Until it's completely gone and then he's going to miss it, mark my words.

Reports from observers say that Haz has chewed his cuticles to a right royal mess. Wonder why that could be.
none said…
@Hikari I saw pictures of the cuticles. They were a mess. Also he's always fiddling and turning his wedding ring around which is odd.
Sandie said…
PP dead? No.

All it took was for one person to send out a suggestive tweet and it snowballed into a story.

The airspace at Heathrow was closed because an RAF plane from an RAF facility close by wanted to fly into the airspace around the airport. (Why we do not know but someone is going to be summoned to explain themselves to the higher ups!) If there was some kind of mystery plane landing, there are hundreds of people at Heathrow, all with phones ... If the airspace was closed because PP had died ... well Heathrow is not the only airport, or even large airport, in the UK.
DesignDoctor said…
@Hikari

You could see the chewed cuticles in the photos I noticed them myself. As a person who was married to a narc it is so nerve-wracking to be walking on eggshells all. the. time. Excruciating really. You never know at what moment the criticism/abuse is going to start and what form it will take.Thank goodness I escaped. Regarding the Jekyll vs Hyde aspects of narcs, my mother still tells me how much she liked my ex...and we have been divorced since 1991. It's nauseating, really.

I agree. H is going to miss the life he has--he has no idea what "normal" life is.
DesignDoctor said…
Narcs don't change. His third wife recently told me she understands why I divorced him. No amount of money, big house, lifestyle is worth living like that--on eggshells, IMO.
Nutty Flavor said…
Maybe I'm slow, but I don't understand why Philip's passing would require Heathrow to be closed. What's the connection?

@Mom Mobile, Archie wouldn't have to be born in NYC to be a US citizen. He has a US citizen parent, which is enough. She just needs to apply at the US Embassy in London for a passport. I believe there's a time limit, however. Perhaps it's already been done.
Hikari said…
Tweey,

The high school pregnancy speculation is out there, but I think it would be hard to hide something like that with her family under scrutiny like they are. She would have had to leave her Catholic girls' high school for a time, depending on when she gave birth, if she did. We have seen several photos of her glammed up for high school dances. I think there's a graduation photo for high school . .not college. If she bulked up suddenly then 'went away' for a semester, or if she was at Tom's house while pregnant . .seems like somebody would have talked about THAT when Meg suddenly got so famous.

I discount those rumors as juicy wishful thinking. Meg was already very ambitious for herself by high school and already very versed in exploiting her looks. I think she would have not had the baby, if she were ever pregnant then. She was very unwilling to have a baby with Trevor and they were married and he had plenty of money to support her.

If Meg was pregnant once, twice or more pre-'Archie', I think she'd have sought the same solution to her 'problem' each time. So if she ever was pregnant, it never went far enough along for her to know firsthand what being out of the first trimester felt like. She probably gleaned all her notions from TV.

This is an appropriate time to mention that I work in a library and just a few minutes ago passed our book sale shelves where someone has donated a stack of People Magazines featuring "Meghan's Baby Joy!: It's a Boy!" and the one with her in the red and purple ensemble grinning maniacally and belly clutching.

Someone having a clean-out of back issues of People with Meg on the cover from 2018, post Megxit annoucment and Queen-dumping is kind of suggestive to me. Why get rid of year-plus old Peoples *this week*? Looks like Meghan has maybe lost another fan.
Wanda said…
@Hikari and @Elle
Check out the Sun's article on Smeg's Mile-Long Legs! She is no taller than 5'4" and her legs are not long! Could this be another example of delusion? Look at how short her calves are! I don't know how Gina the PR agent didn't burst out laughing when ordered to capture Smeg's extensive limbs.🤪🤪

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10760981/meghan-markle-boasted-adviser-legs-long-mile-jobs-showcase/
pi said…
@BlueBell Woods

"I remember early in the first year of Megomania reading that it was the RF and/or British government that went around scrubbing Meghan's background....

I bet the BRF is sorry now. KARMA.
Glow W said…
Uugh, enty has a reveal about Kate not wanting any part of William outside of their public personas
Nutty Flavor said…
Yeah, Enty's William and Kate pieces are really distasteful, and one reason I rarely go to CDAN these days.

I think he's under the influence of Nicole Cliffe, whom he has worked with in the past, or some other Meghan supporter.

Nobody believes that stuff except Lainey and Enty.
Ian's Girl said…
I've always thought Kate had...not so much a proper eating disorder that stems from mental illness like Diana had, but rather that she did the kind of thing that models and actresses do; eat very little, and when the occasion demands she does eat more than she wants to, she makes herself yuk it up later. Not every day, every meal, but on occasion. I am not sure if that is a true eating disorder or not.

And I am not certain what it has to do with a Band-aid on her thumb anyway.



FrenchieLiv said…
Enty revealed other blind items (nasty rumours about The Firm) and I'm pretty sure it all comes from not the same person...

"This royal shows she is willing to do what she needs for her position, but she wants no part of her cheating husband on a personal level.
---) Kate Middleton/Prince William"


"What is crazy is that the one in charge is more upset about the breakaway grandson than the pedophile son. She is ready to have the son come back to the fold.
---) Queen Elizabeth/Prince Harry/Prince Andrew"
Sandie said…
Here is what I think is happening with Megxit:

1. Meghan is not going back to the UK. In the future, you may see her turning up for some event involving Archie (who will end up living with Harry most of the time). The BRF have wised up so they know this.

2. The part-time royal demand is for Harry because he wants to maintain that link. This complicates the deal, but the BRF want this because they want to leave the door wide open for him.

3. Frogmore is being shut down. (Probably someone in the extended royal family will rent it, and the furniture that Megsy wants will be shipped to her new home.) Harry will probably stay in an apartment in BP when he is in the UK (which will be frequently) and he will have a skeleton staff at BP.

4. Meghan and Harry will relocate to LA. She probably always knew that staying in Canada would be problematic, unless they got some kind of official position in that country. She said North America and everyone, including the BRF, translated it as Canada. Maybe for a while she thought she could establish herself as a big fish in a small pond in Canada, but if she does stay there she will alienate the few friends she still has in that country.

5. The delay in sorting out all the financial issues (all over the media today) is not what Meghan wants, but I think she will stick it out for as long as she needs to in order to get herself in a position for a favourable divorce settlement in California. She really is spinning for a mansion in the best part of LA (or maybe she is ok with counting on freebies for the rest of her life, as she has done all her life so far), a guaranteed income, plus all her other demands. She may just ignore the palace and embark on her new commercial life for global fame and immense wealth. If she does, she may just find herself in legal trouble.

6. Rumours of a separation will start circulating in the next few months but will be dismissed and their marriage will be fiercely defended (he has to be in the UK to fulfil obligations, her new life is in LA, they have quality time when they are together ... maybe even some pap shots of them having a romantic dinner and her hanging onto him with that put on laugh or look of adoration. When the announcement of the legal separation comes, they will have stared divorce negotiations. Harry is going to feel a lot of shame about this so he wants to hide the truth for as long as possible; Meghan will hold onto Harry for as long as she thinks that she can get a better deal. Sounds cynical, doesn't it?
Humor Me said…
What is this Megxit deal? A document dump at midnight?
Wanda said…
punkinseed said...
Blue Bell and Sarah, that's what I read too. Plus, she didn't finish her internship in Buenos Areis because she hooked up with a Spanish rich guy who took her to Spain? Something like that was the story anyway."

@Punkin, @Sarah and @Dido
There were stories about MM having 2 different relationships while doing her internship. One was with an older man.
Someone on this blog left a recent post about how one of those relationships (I think with the older guy) may have led to her yachting. The other man I believe was in the military and assigned as a guard.
Dido - do you have Morton's book or are you getting the content from online?
Fairy Crocodile said…
I am not sure Kate has an eating disorder. She may be cursed with one of those hurricane metabolisms that burn through calories like a forest fire, especially under stress. She has taken some very prominent engagements plus a highly risky trip to Pakistan recently, and she has to deal with William amidst the Harkles crisis. I expect she had to work hard to pacify Wills. Add three very lively children and the picture is complete.

Perhaps she has to skip meals to deal with all that mess on her plate, so to say.

She does need to put on a bit of weight but I hope once things settle a bit she will. Her family must be close enough to her to notice a real problem if any and help when necessary.
Glow W said…
@ian’s girl the implication with the plasters is she is using her fingers to make herself throw up and they are getting cut on her teeth. That is my guess anyway
Nutty Flavor said…
There was a bulimic in my family. The cut made by the teeth is between the index finger and the wrist, not on the thumb.
Wanda said…
@Sandie - great post - sounds like you have it figured out! Notice how there are a lot of references in the tabs lately about Harry being unhappy and a changed person since he got married. It feels like they are hinting the marriage is not working out.
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Nutty Flavor said…
Like your new photo, @BlueBell!
The fact that that Native American artist gave MM a gold and diamond necklace makes me screaming mad! That artist says she is supporting women of Native American background who have nothing- absolutely nothing! The money from that necklace should have gone to help those women. Does nobody see the hippocracy of Native American Jewelry Designer? And to give such a gift to MM, who has loads of jewelry and a husband worth $30 million, while the women who work there, and the women who live there are in extremely dire circumstances, and are scrambling for any money they can just to live, have shelter and food to eat??
MEGHAN, it is just shameful to accept this gift. And it was shameful of the artist to give it to her. Where are their gold and diamond necklaces, Native American Jewelry Designer, whatever your name is? You know Meghan is just going to throw that necklace into the huge pile of jewelry she's received in the past couple of years and think nothing of it again?
That money could have gone into so many programs for these women.
And Meghan calls herself a woman who is empowering other women? All she did was visit for a photo op, and she used these women to do it. Then she is awarded with gold and diamonds for visiting a charity????
Well, Meghan, how about throwing actual cash their way? That would be helping. A photo op does not. What will MM do for any of these women today or tomorrow? She's long gone, and all of you have been Markled. So, Native American Jewelry Designer, donate at least the retail cost of that necklace to that to this charity, which will actually help the women you are saying you are trying to help. Bah!
punkinseed said…
Sandy,
7. Harry will get papped in LA or wherever caught cheating with a CA surfer girl as fast as you can say Jon Gosselin.
DesignDoctor said…
@Sandie

I think your scenario sounds extremely plausible rather than cynical. We know that Megs will want to hold out as long as possible to take advantage of the "Royal" angle as long as she can and that Harry will feel shame about the divorce, especially due to Charles and Diana.

He would be better off to jettison her now. It's doomed. She doesn't give two hoots about him and/or Archie. Who, I am not convinced actually exists as their child.

Totally believe the BRF scrubbed her past. Would love for it all to be exposed!
Wanda said…
Nutty Flavor said...
Like your new photo, @BlueBell!

Thanks Nutty - it's from an antique postcard!
punkinseed said…
If maybe Kate does lots of paper crafts with the kids, etc., it could be she gets paper cuts.
none said…
@punkinseed LOL His girlfriend history does indicate he prefers blondes.
Princess Mrs. B said…
Kate is not bulimic. She is thin because she runs. Mike Tindall has been quoted as saying "she could run all day." I do remember seeing what looked like a wart (for lack of a more elegant word) on one of Kate's fingers years ago. She would definitely want to cover that up, knowing that she has to shake hands.
The gallery, which will not be named so they don't get any more press, also is merching themselves in MM's name. Shameful!
lizzie said…
@Bluebell Woods said in talking about M's aborted foreign service career:
"she failed the test. Even though this was supposedly one of her dual majors."

Having a major in International Relations (as they are typically laid out) wouldn't be all that much help on the FSOT in my opinion. Candidates need to study alot for it. Here are sample questions: https://fsotprep.com/fsot-practice-test/
Wanda said…
punkinseed said...
"Sandy,
7. Harry will get papped in LA or wherever caught cheating with a CA surfer girl as fast as you can say Jon Gosselin."

LOL Punkin - last night I posted that the RF should actively seek out someone new and HOT for Harry and dangle her in front of his nose. Problem solved!

They are the Royal Family - they can do anything!

Maybe they could host a bachelor-type program for Hazza and round up some BRITISH ONLY beauties for him. "Who wants to be the second wife of Hazza?" could be the name of the show and the winner could spend the rest of her life living a part-time royal life with Harry in both England and Africa where they will do conservation work. (He won't however be allowed to hunt.)
CookieShark said…
The Eagles say it best!

"You're still the same old girl you used to be"
Wanda said…
@Lizzie - Yes I've heard it's difficult. They have similar general knowledge tests for teachers that I believe are more difficult. I'm sure there are prep books for the foreign service test. I wonder why she didn't try to take the exam again? Maybe MM was too busy with her boyfriends to study. :-)
Sadie Sunshine said…
Long time lurker, maybe first or second-time poster.

Someone I know who is connected to the both the royal family and celebrity circles (I only recently met this person) told me that as of December, the family was aware that Meghan and Harry were planning to leave. It's possible they weren't aware of how everything would go down, but it wasn't news that they intended to withdraw from royal life. Was able to confirm (without even asking) that Meghan and Kate never got along; this person didn't know anything regarding the pregnancy being real or fake. My source also told me that Meghan is a total phony and the general feeling within Hollywood circles is that she has her sights set on being a movie star. That was REALLY surprising to me -- I just assumed she wanted to make a crazy ton of money as an "influencer."

I learned a bit more, too, but I'm honestly really nervous about posting this and debated doing so for a while. I'll disburse a bit more once I know that it's not getting anyone in trouble (including myself).
Sandie said…
'7. Harry will get papped in LA or wherever caught cheating with a CA surfer girl as fast as you can say Jon Gosselin.'

I like that one!
Glow W said…
Btw, those aren’t Christmas wreaths at Victoria International airport, they are hanging plants. Google Victoria international airport, scroll down until you see “yellow cab of Victoria with a 1.8 star rating” and click on that. See the red and green plants that are part of the decor. They are NOT Christmas decorations.
Wanda said…
@JocelynsBellinis
Where do you see the info about the Native American jewelry?
I posted about how I thought I spotted her wearing a Northwest Coast Native pendant in the form of a whale tail totem in one of the photos at the "justice for feminist native woman anti-colonialism center", and figured she was trying to score points with her choice of necklace. I thought however, that the DM later IDed it as Harry's zodiac symbol.
Samantha wears nice south western native american jewelry.
none said…
@tatty If so they must be fake plants to be hanging outside in the winter.
Wanda said…
@Sadie Sunshine
Thanks for the info. Don't worry. You can always leave your posts up for a while to let the blog members read them and then just delete them.
KCM1212 said…
@Jocelyn Bellini

I'm so ashamed that I didn't catch that about the gift should have gone to the women not Markle. I just saw it as another marching opportunity.You are so right!
Sadie Sunshine said…
@bluebell That's a great point -- thank you!!
lizzie said…
@Bluebell Woods said "...They have similar general knowledge tests for teachers that I believe are more difficult. I'm sure there are prep books for the foreign service test. I wonder why she didn't try to take the exam again?.."

My guess is that while M may have had some grandiose ideas, she was never all that sure about entering foreign service. Sure seems to me if that was her true career goal, she wouldn't have majored in Theater. PoliSci would have made more sense. And her International Relations major isn't a stand-alone major at NW. It's an add-on major any student can do as long as he/she has another major. In other words, no one can graduate from NW with only a major in International Relations.

The PRAXIS for teachers can cause some students problems. While the specific teaching area content test is taken later, the core/general knowledge/skills part is usually taken sophomore year for entry into a Teacher Ed program. It covers reading, writing and mathematics, sort of like an SAT. https://www.ets.org/praxis/about/

So I don't know if that's more difficult than the FSOT which covers econ, world geography, world history, US govt/civics, math, psychology, cultural issues.... But any standardized knowledge test requires prep! And I can see easily M not doing enough of that.
QueenWhitby said…
@Tatty - I agree, they are winter baskets. I didn’t follow your link but I saw the photos - it’s very common with our mild climate on the south coast of BC to have hanging and potted displays year round.
Nutty Flavor said…
Thanks for your info, @Sadie Sunshine!

I can’t see Meg as a movie star. It’s hard to imagine a role she would be right for.
Sandie said…
@Sadie Sunshine:

Thanks for the input. I am also surprised that she wants to be a movie star. She does not have the talent and is too problematic to work with (a director's nightmare).

So what is she going to do? Hustle for a role in a big movie? One of these big franchise deals where one spends hours in the make up department before appearing on set, lighting, special effects and CGI are bigger than the actors, and a director who is patient enough for hundreds of takes and diva tantrums when working with madam? Or is Harry going to throw a lot of money at it (own production company) to give her what she wants? And then she has to hustle to get the nominations for awards (if she can get a distributor to take the movie on)?
@sadie sunshine. Thanks for the info. Lol reading your post made me think of the scene from Steel Magnolias: if you don’t have anything nice to say, come sit by us. So... come sit by us!
none said…
@QueenWhitby Interesting about the year-round hanging baskets in Victoria. I checked the weather and it's 39 degrees F. I live in a similar climate and the only hanging baskets we can display are what are sold during the holidays. I have a "kissing ball" made with pine bows still on my porch. I choose the maroon ribbons instead of red because the red looks like Christmas.
Sadie Sunshine said…
@nutty and @sandie Totally agree. All I know is that the buzz among Hollywood players is that she's put wheels in motion to try to make it happen. Name recognition aside, she's not talented enough to be a big actress and I certainly don't see her headlining a movie. But since we all know she's a true narcissist who doesn't see herself the way the rest of the world does, I suspect (this is my assumption, not from my source) that she won't get the big roles she wants and will turn down anything she deems "not prestigious enough" for her.
SwampWoman said…
Sadie Sunshine, welcome, and great name! As long as you say "gossip which may or may not be true!" I don't think that the speculation/gossip would be a problem.
Sadie Sunshine said…
Hahahaha thanks, @miller! Hopefully, I can stay under the radar and continue to share tidbits. ;)
Glow W said…
@holly
@queen whitby

I’m so glad we solved this 😃🎉

They are either fake plants or winter topiaries with green leaves. Looks like an evergreen with a brown basket and a red ribbon.

I think it’s easy to suggest it’s a Christmas decoration because of the ribbon but nothing about it screams Christmas to me. It’s not a wreath. On one of them by the back of her car car, you can clearly see the hanger. They are winter hanging baskets.

Dom dom dom.. big ole nothing burger
punkinseed said…
Welcome Sadie Sunshine! Thanks for the input, and yes, sit by us! We don't have much nice to say but we are nice to each other about it.
Yes! That would be funny Sandie, Haz Hubby Game Show, but no Jeopardy questions! LOL
What are they hanging over there in Victoria airport? Giant red kale? cuz nothing red I can think of would work outside this time of year. Must be plastic or fabric plants.
Pantsface said…
I'm not entirely sure how body shaming brings much to the discussion, whether it is Catherine or MM. Catherine has always been slim and I do get that she is probably under pressure to look good, but to say she has an eating disorder is crass when we know nothing, Same for MM, there is plenty there to focus on wihout it boiling down to her physique (spelt wrong lol) it just makes us look shallow and we are not!
Wanda said…
Nutty Flavor said...
"I can’t see Meg as a movie star. It’s hard to imagine a role she would be right for."

And she absolutely CAN NOT STOP touching her hair!!! It's unreal. She strokes it, plays with it, grabs it, flips it - constantly.

I believe the only reason she got the job on Suits was because she was unknown and therefore cheaper to pay, and I think Trevor helped her get the spot.
punkinseed said…
Tatty, well at least we are proving we are good at observing every little thing in a photo. A criminal wouldn't ever want one of us showing up to ID them in a lineup. We have detail skills.
Glow W said…
@pumpkinseed the plant is green, the ribbon is red. Seriously about criminals... lol. We should open an online sleuthing business.
@Bluebell, Here is the article on the DM about the Native American Artist, and the gallery that Native American Artist she shows her work in, in Vancouver, also has posted on their blog that she gave the necklace to her. So, both the artist AND the gallery are merching themselves on the back of Saint Meghan's visit. MM never even went near the gallery, so what a desperate reach for them to try to get some free press off the backs of poor Native American girls and women.
I hope people will contact the artist and the gallery to tell them how awful and money-grubbing that makes them appear.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7898971/Meghan-Markle-gifted-diamond-18ct-gold-tail-necklace-Nations-artist.html
Glow W said…
Well, we’d have the softer competition beat for business because skippy and them are talking about the wrong airport and wreaths 🤣🤣
This is a MUST Watch!!! LOL

https://twitter.com/larrydaliberal/status/1217512784864456704
xxxxx said…
@Sadie Sunshine

My take is Megs knows she is over the hill as far as acting, any kind of major acting. Suits was her ceiling. Megs current Hollywood aspirations are to direct, produce, put deals together, be an influencer and trend setter there. Seems like delusionary thinking to me.
________________________

This moment's UK Daily Mail>>>>

The bank of Dad is draining Charles: RICHARD KAY on how the Prince of Wales has had to dip into his own private reserves and give Harry and William around £2.5 million each

RICHARD KAY: As fireworks arced across the night sky over Windsor Great Park, Prince Charles oozed with paternal pride. Fast forward 12 months and the Prince of Wales was in a rather less benign mood as he leafed through pages of accounts relating to his son's expenditure. The bills for the wedding (Meghan and Charles at the wedding, left), the bills relating to the considerable sums spent on fixtures and fittings at the Sussexes' home Frogmore Cottage in Windsor (bottom centre) - quite distinct from the taxpayer-funded structural renovations - and the ongoing bills for Harry and Meghan's allowance that he also provides, were adding up.

But those familiar with some of the eye-watering numbers which have crossed the royal desk at Clarence House say there is another side to the story. One figure went so far as to say that the money he spends, not just on Harry and Meghan (pictured with Charles, right) but also on financing William and Kate, was 'draining him'.
punkinseed said…
Nutty, aha! Maybe the reason she could not land very many roles and never a starring one is because she plays so much with her hair.
Ava C said…
Re: Meghan's acting talents - I managed to avoid seeing her 'body of work' completely until things started going really wrong for her in the UK media. Then I watched a compilation on YouTube. If I'd had a table I'd have been under it. She couldn't even act answering the phone and taking a message. It was excruciating. Not touting-to-Disney excruciating (the current nadir) but getting there. So I'm speechless at the idea of her hoping to act again. Speechless, but not surprised.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@Ava C

I am with you re her acting talents. One look at that interview where she is acting all innocent and close to tears is cringeworthy. If that is pinnacle of her acting career she is zero, naught, null as an actress.

Nobody bought it.
lizzie said…
Re: The bank of Dad is draining Charles

As I said on the last thread, I've been royal watching for awhile. Will and Kate were criticized about the KP expenditures covered by the taxpayer (especially when they didn't live there but immediately decamped fulltime to Anmer Hall.) Anyway Charles kicked in a bit then too for the addition of a "family" kitchen as well as other stuff. (Remember the moniker "Two Kitchens Kate?")

And Anmer Hall.... remember the squawking when the Cambridges had that "gourmet" kitchen torn out? Think those renovations were covered by Charles too. Then there was moving the tennis court...probably Bank of Dad then too.

Apparently neither Will nor Harry likes to pay for stuff themselves.
Glow W said…
imminently was a strong word to use, daily mail 🤣🤣🤣
Wanda said…
@JocelynsBellinis
Thanks for the reply. First of all, MM gave those charities very little notice she was coming yet the artist was quick to decide to gift and pick up from the gallery one of her 18K pendants.
The comments on the DM article are very interesting. They are asking questions about her being allowed to accept such an expensive gift, and the merching issue. Also they are saying that the pendant got marked up from 1590 to 2160!
The Queen is never going to be able to stop MM from doing whatever she wants. And MM being the despicable person she is will flaunt it in her face. They should just release an avalanche of dirt on her.
punkinseed said…
Tatty, there already is a site like that. It's called Websleuths. Love them. I used to be quite active on there during the Scott Peterson trial, but it's much more fun to hang out here with Nutty and the Nuttiers.
Mimi said…
punkinseed, I was a member of websleuth when they were heavy into the case of Deorr Kunz (? fibro brain). that is a cool site but like a lot of blog, people get into horrendous squabbles etc.
Wanda said…
@Punkinseed
I think I have to try to find another way to answer posts because you responded to two of mine but thought they were from another member. It was me who said she was constantly playing with her hair and I was the one who made the silly suggestion of having a Bachelor Show (like the TV show) in order to find Harry someone new.
Sorry for the mix ups. I guess the old way of posting and answering people directly worked better in those circumstances. You can't always tell who is saying what now.
punkinseed said…
Ava C, maybe that's why Rach opted to go the foreign relations route at first instead of acting. I can imagine a few Thespian profs at Northwestern telling her flat out she just ain't got the abilities to make a living at acting, and they meant it, for her own good. It's kind of obvious throughout her life.
She can't take a single bit of direction on simple protocol moves for the royals, like when to walk, shut up, stand over there, not there... etc. Imagine being her acting teacher and director trying to put on a production with someone like her? You'd be spending entire rehearsal time stuck listening to her try to argue that her character would do this, not that, and that's even when she's just a background character like say, one of the fairy godmothers in Sleeping Beauty!
Mimi said…
lizzie, a bit off topic but wow, I couldn’t believe what went on when they were renovating Amner Hall for the Cambridges. They evicted the tenant and ripped out his super beautiful and expensive custom kitchen he had just built. They made all kinds of changes....even made a new private road and closed the road and parking that led to the church next door. They added on a spectacular kind of sunroom and made the workshop next to it into the nanny’s place.
Ozmanda said…
Totally called- the moment they “separated” from the royal family that also means separated from the protections - now those skeletons will be falling on out of the closet. :)
punkinseed said…
OMG BlueBell, I'm sorry! You're right. It is very hard with this newer format to respond to each other. Thanks for letting me know. What you said about game show made me laugh so hard. The hair thing she does drives me nuts too.
A lot of times I give up on responding because the comment was so far upthread it's hard to keep the joke or momentum going so I just keep.
Glow W said…
OT:
@pumpkinseed and @mimi I used to be a member of websleuths!!! I was there for Scott Peterson and the last one was the doctor in Florida who was bludgeoned do death by the husband’s friend who looked liked the husband.

It’s been years since I signed on there
punkinseed said…
Ozmanda, that's gonna be a whole graveyard of skeletons. Gonna be like necropolis in Egypt.
Wanda said…
@Punkinseed - I know what you mean! If you want to respond to someone at the top of a full page of comments you have to scroll all the way down. I've started something new where I open the site twice and read on one page and flip to the other page to respond where I keep the page down at the comments box.
Glow W said…
I’m not following the graveyard of skeletons thing, can someone back up and explain? Thanks.
lizzie said…
@Mimi,

You are exactly right. The Anmer Hall renovation was a big deal and the Cambridges looked bad. Think they took some farmer's land for the tennis court relocation too. Or maybe that was to move the driveway.

Not saying H&M didn't do really bone-headed things too prior to this latest stuff. They did. But honestly the press has been pretty even-handed in reporting the Cambridges and the Sussexes **when the events happened** It's just easy to forget today W&K have had bad press when the focus is on H&M.
xxxxx said…
Enty-CDAN is uninformed and abysmal when it comes to the BRF. I rarely go there anyway. But the first I heard of CDAN was three years ago due to his immortal, highly detailed blind, that everyone guessed right, it was Don Henley and a 16 year old. "Dirty Laundry". Enty was forced to take it down after a while.
Mimi said…
Lizzie, I remember how brutal the criticism was for Catherine. The big thing was how she always held her hands “protecting her crotch”. They picked on every single thing about her and her family.

And yes, they had to “buy” some additional land for the new road and security buildings, etc.
Glow W said…
What I r member about the reporting on America hall was the pearl clutching over the roof color
punkinseed said…
Mimi and Tatty, yes. I liked Websleuths for a long time, but oh yes, some of the squabbles on each other could get pretty bad. The mods would take sides and be mean too, so I didn't sign up again when they did a revamp of their membership. Still like to lurk there though, when there's a big crime case. Haven't been there for a long time.
Mimi said…
tatty, I have not participated on websleuths for years. My cases were the DeOrr Kunz little boy and the gal Missy (?) who was bludgeoned to death in a church by someone disguised as a cop or security or something. I KNOW who did it but up until this day I believe it is still an unsolved case.
Back to our regularly scheduled program...........
Fairy Crocodile said…
The best joke I've seen (on a foreign site)

Markle is the first woman in the world to marry a prince only to turn him into a frog

We could give the idea to Disney...and here is our answer what role she could play.
punkinseed said…
Tatty, referring to what Ozmanda said about when they left being royals that protection would be off and that's when skeletons would fall from closets.
JHanoi said…
Kate and the plasters/bandages - i don’t think she’s anorexic. maybe she has something unsightly she’s trying to cover up like a wart, hangnail, cyst, psorisis, cracked dry skin or other skin condition that flares up. She shakes alot of hands and wouldn’t want to catch anything and is also is constantly photgraphed and has to look picture perfect. I’ve been wearing a bandage on and off because of a cyst.

Some one may have posted this already, Burger King was trolling Harry. They’ve offered him a job wear he can wear a Crown.
punkinseed said…
HAAAAA Fairy Crocodile! That's hilarious! PLUS!!! Not only did she turn the prince into a frog, but her house too. She'll blame it all on Froggymoore cuz nothing is ever a Narc's fault; you watch.
DesignDoctor said…
I love the idea of the game show to find a new mate for Harry--strongly suggest a British woman with an interest in British history and tradition!

Agree that Megs will never stop merching. Good luck with the movie star idea. She does not have the acting chops/talent and IMO she
is way past her "sell by" date.

@Sadie Sunshine welcome and thanks for the insider news.

@BlueBelleWoods--Love your name and your pic! I love vintage postcards!
Ava C said…
@JocelynsBellinis The Queen is never going to be able to stop MM from doing whatever she wants. And MM being the despicable person she is will flaunt it in her face. They should just release an avalanche of dirt on her.

Completely agree. Look how she's behaved this week when even the preliminary announcement of the transitional arrangements is still pending. 'Loose cannon' doesn't begin to describe it. I don't care what effect it has on Harry. Keeping the door open for him isn't as important as preserving what the BRF represents, or perhaps its very existence in the longer term.

Yes they've had rocky times in the past, such as the surge in republicanism (British sense) due to Queen Victoria's prolonged withdrawal from public life, but modern communications make things far more volatile and possibly irreversible, if left to fester too long.

Victoria was in trouble because she ignored the fact that monarchy exists by popular consent, and the public expects the BRF to fulfil their duties in return for public largesse. Nothing has changed. This is fundamental, and they ignore it at their peril. It doesn't matter that H&M are comparatively minor royals or that the succession is sound. It is what this crisis represents in terms of behaviour, extravagance, ingratitude and presumption, coming so soon after Prince Andrew's fall.
Hikari said…
@Punkin seed,

You received a very special second virtual latte price of the day for your “so many skeletons it will be like a necropolis in Egypt” comment.

Re. Meg’s drama degree

I have a sneaking suspicion in my trusty gut that Meg May have been asked to leave the Drama department Due to failing to meet their minimum standard of achievement to remain in the program. Perhaps the fact that her now cast off father, Who is paying the bills is an Emmy winning lighting director in Hollywood might have graced her admission into the program. I would expect that degree at such a competitive school as northwestern to come with an audition requirement for entry. Is there any proof out there that Meg was involved in theater prior to going to Northwestern, either school plays or community productions? If northwestern is proud to claim her as an alumna, There must be several yearbooks with pictures of her in school productions. None of her sorority sisters in which she was so popular allegedly they made her membership chairman are on record as Reminiscing about Meg doing shows at school. Not a single hand builder poster or cast photo To show her work and her chosen major. If she was allowed to remain in the program, her grades must have been abysmal based on the acting talent we have seen from her as an adult. At a top school like Northwestern, the drama department would attract the top high school thespian talent from around the country. So how did Meg get a spot?

If she was asked to choose another major, or she failed by the end of her sophomore year, the sudden interest in getting internships abroad in her ad on major makes more sense. Sounds like meg was shopping for a sugar daddy Not an international education if within three weeks of her arrival in Buenos Aires she was already sleeping with one or more men she just met. How embarrassing for her uncle. With her self professed fluency in Spanish, it’s a wonder she didn’t make a play for some Spanish prince or a rich South American guy. But I think Meg speaks as much Spanish as I do ....I’m betting my four semesters Of college Spanish beat nine weeks into Spanish speaking countries where a lot of her time was spent in nonverbal communication. My professor Señorita Forrester was pretty demanding.
punkinseed said…
Blue Bell, that's an excellent idea! I'm going to try that! Thanks for the tip.
Lurking said…
Article from Daily Mail:

"Harry and Meghan's hideaway, the Kremlin-linked tech tycoon and a web of intrigue: Tantalising questions about billionaire Yuri Milner who met the prince at elite 'Google Camp' last summer"...

"Milner is on US Treasury Department watchlist of people with ties to the Kremlin"

Picture of Megs where she looks much younger, maybe early 20's before nose job. Picture is captioned, "In January 2018, his was one of more than 200 names on a U.S. Treasury Department watchlist of wealthy Russian politicians and oligarchs with ties to the Kremlin who could face sanctions under the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. Pictured is Meghan Markle with Yuri's close friend's wife"

Such a tangled web.



DesignDoctor said…
@Hikari

I seem to remember press reports (before her marriage to Harry) that she had played the role of a princess in a school play at one point in her life.
Glow W said…
I thought dm said Milner wasn’t the owner?

They might be trying to get a steady stream of denials so they can figure the owner out that way.
Fairy Crocodile said:

"Markle is the first woman in the world to marry a prince only to turn him into a frog.


And we all know frogs don't have a backbone. (actually not true but it sounds good)
Glow W said…
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/confusion-reigns-supreme-in-stories-on-ownership-of-meghan-and-harrys-luxury-saanich-digs
All about who owns the house they're staying in. I'm not going to comment on how bad this looks for everybody involved, including the Barefoot Prince, the Merching Bride and their new "friends."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7900843/Harry-Meghan-Markle-bombshell-Questions-Kremlin-linked-billionaire-Yuri-Milner.html
punkinseed said…
Thank you Hikari! That makes my day! Cheers!
Megs fluent Spanish is probably like, "Cervesa e Banos porfavor!" and "Huevos Rancheros Amigos!" Always loved it when Robin Williams said that..
It is interesting that Megs has no college performance history. Similar to finding a single letter or script written in the man from Stratford Upon Avon, William Shakespeare's hand. A mystery indeed.
DesignDoctor said…
Fairy Crocodile said:

"Markle is the first woman in the world to marry a prince only to turn him into a frog.

Now if only Harry would hop away!
Sandie said…
What folk here are remembering and pointing out is that the press were brutal with Catherine. They mocked her mother; the press have never treated Doria in the same way. (This is just one example for one person.)

If Meghan loved Harry and wanted to stay, there were plenty of family members, courtiers and ex-courtiers (and her husband) who could help her to see stuff in context, and plenty of people to give her advice on how to just keep going, which criticism to take note of and which to ignore, which stories to respond to and which to ignore. It's a good life and contrary to what she said in her pity party interview, she was surrounded by people who were there to support and help her. besides, she was a mature women when she met Harry and had enough experience of life to have learnt characteristics such as patience, self-control, balance, reason, and a whole lot of other stuff. Instead, she acted like a reckless entitled teenager.

Meghan never intended to stay or become part of the firm. Harry was her access to wealth and global recognition/attention, i.e. fame. In the time she was there, she developed no personal bonds, no loyalty or commitment or caring for anyone or anything. Harry should take note of that, because how she treated his family, the staff, the taxpayers, everything, is how she is going to treat him when she is done (and that girl sure has learnt to move quickly!).

Oh, and The Firm sure holding up the deal. Sure there are many complex issues, and so many people have set aside everything to work late into the night, every day, to get everything done. Megsy is going to go nuclear over the delays in the forthcoming months.

Do the Firm's rules allow her to accept such an expensive gift (the necklace)? I think not. I wonder if anyone at the palace will dare to take that up with her, or if anyone in the press will pick up on that.
Sandie said…
Have you seen this comparison of the Henries (Henry Mountbatten-Windsor and King Henry VIII)?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/7ce06fcd2c905ae04c11f12221cd12d9/d22ea2d7c0b8ed22-79/s540x810/d2a262177c571c5f8abd4d8d5e50d937f3c69802.jpg
Unknown said…
re: Meg and Hollywood

Thanks @Sadie Sunshine for the intel ;)

@SwampWoman Agree on all fronts about the awful nonstop Hollywood remakes. The remakes have a lot to do with how risk averse HW has become because of crazy production costs and the extremely complicated financing methods they employ nowadays. A good book on the subject is the Hollywood Economist. I have been obsessed with classic films since pre-school and I am basically ruined for most movies today.

I’m not surprised Meg is gunning to become a movie star. Good luck with that. Her blueprint for success is a bit outdated and is not going to work in this decade. She probably thinks she is Grace Kelly (another rumored yacht girl) and thinks directors will want her the same way Hitchcock kept begging Grace to do a movie after she became royal.

The big stars are having a hard time staying relevant in Hollywood. They are going to TV, streaming services, and lifestyle brands. The prestigious work not going to the biggies are going to classically trained actors who went to RADA. That’s why we are seeing an influx of British actors. Pretty American actors who can’t act are a dime a dozen in L.A.

Meg is fighting a losing battle for old markers of prestige.
Sandie said…
Close set eyes, nose, ginger hair and beard to cover loss of definition in neck (what one calls a double chin) ... tick for both Henries.

Henry VIII was a handsome man in his youth, but also a charismatic, popular and imposing one.

By the way the two Henries are not related, so the resemblances are coincidence.
DesignDoctor said…
@Sandie

That comparison is interesting!
Sarah said…
The two Henrys are related. The Windsors descend from HenryVIII’s sister Margaret. Also, the Queen Mum was a descendant of Mary Boleyn. Rumor is Henry fathered her kids.
Anonymous said…
So, I need someone to shine a light on this for me.
I probably just don't have enough vision or I'm used to just existing not living or some other such nonesense, but Rach is from middle-class America. She was d-list seconds on a mediocre cable show. She finally screwed the right guy who, by all accounts, is dumb as rocks. He thought he was getting lucky, but he was just getting had. Now, they've tried extorting and insulting H's family, and have said that they want to work towards 'financial independence'. Neither have jobs, and that merch money is going to be a slow stream, so the 35 yo H's dad has to buck up and support them so that they can buy this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10765370/meghan-markle-waterfront-dream-home/



@Hikari, thank you!! Virtual free lattes are the best kind! I'm going to have a cinnamon latte (not the syrup, just the spice steamed in the milk) with one pump bittersweet chocolate! Yum!
Wut said…
Didn't the Harkle's get married on the day one of the Henry's wives got the chop as well?

on Northwestern. I remember Diana wearing one of their tops, MM is such a Diana stand that I suspect that is the reason she went there.

On Movie Markle, I have thought for a long time that if the BRF really wanted to get rid of her they would tap up one of the Director's they know and get him to offer MM a deal, that she couldn't take up unless she left the BRF (i.e. divorced DimWit). You know she would jump at the chance. Then once she was divorced, the film deal would fall apart. Or it could go ahead and we would see how awful an actress she was...
Unknown said…
re: Kate having an ED

I doubt Kate has an ED. Kate is medium frame, shy of 5’9”, and I would guess weighs ~58 kgs. Her torso tends to stay lean and she gains weight first in her face, arms, and legs. In terms of BMI, she is technically considered “normal.” That’s not to say BMI isn’t a problematic standard but malnutrition from EDs have telltale signs. Kate could be very good at hiding them but the fact that her weight has stayed pretty consistent over the years makes me think otherwise.

I am a little taller than Kate and about the same size. I lost the same kind of weight she did by going keto and going heavy on the cardio. She runs and is allegedly on the low-carb Dukan diet. Being her size is possible the healthy route but we will never know. She is probably very strict though and would probably have more carbs if cameras weren’t always on her. Meg is the one that I see signs of an ED. I hope not but I can’t help my suspicions.
lizzie said…
@Elle,

Wow. If The Sun article from that link is correct, no wonder Charles is supposedly freaking out about being "drained." I mean, Harry *could* buy that house with his inheritance most likely but furnishing it? And paying for living expenses? Doubt they plan to eat ramen noodles for dinner! (And doubt H plans to pay for much.)

If that's M's dream house, no wonder she didn't like "old" buildings and churches in the UK.
Hikari said…
Despite the absence of shared genetics...I have thought for years, especially after he grew the beard, Got the two Henrys looked alike. Before becoming a ruthless despot, the earlier Hal Was an athlete, writer, Scholar. poet and musician. He lost his good name, and started his decline from sanity after becoming bewitched by a dark lady who was extremely ambitious To be queen. He wrote Greensleeves for her. After her coronation, she only lived for three years before Henry cut off her head… On May 19. I will always wonder if the queen had something to do with the choice of that date, along with Wallis Simpson’s funeral car for megs transport to the chapel. Both seem to be grim royal jokes Signifying that they probably knew what they were in for.
DesignDoctor said…
@Elle
All I can say is that life is unfair if the grifter and her dumb as rocks prince get that mansion. It is gorgeous and I am sure the type of property Megsy feels entitled to live in considering her status as the DoS.

But seriously, I do not believe she ever lived in Frogmore Cottage and she squandered the taxpayers' and Charles' money on having it remodeled to her specifications. What a phony. There is no justice if that nasty B gets that mansion!

I want to see the phony taken down and her feet held to the fire for her duplicitous, dastardly deeds, the least of which is to seduce Harry, break his heart and family up. Shame on you, Rach!
DesignDoctor said…
@Lizzie
Doubt Harry would splash out his cash for the mansion. I hear he is a tightwad who doesn't even spring for a round at the pub.
DesignDoctor said…
@Hikari
Both seem to be grim royal jokes Signifying that they probably knew what they were in for.

I expect you are right considering the faces on the Royals faces during the wedding.
Sandie said…
@Sarah: 'The two Henrys are related. The Windsors descend from HenryVIII’s sister Margaret. Also, the Queen Mum was a descendant of Mary Boleyn. Rumor is Henry fathered her kids.'

Wow, I did not know that. Not a direct descendant, but related.

Anonymous said…
@Ava C et al

I agree. I do not believe Kate is anorexic - check out her sailing legs. She is built that way. Look at her bone structure. See how narrow her hips are. No one can suck in their hip bones, and God knows, I've tried. You cannot suck them in. Kate is also not the bony, thin, unhealthy look of anorexia/bulimia, though I'm sure Rach loves the thought that she's spreading hurtful gossip and some are buying it. Kate is just willowy tall and thin and healthy, and as a result, with an active life and lots of exercise, she's jsut super-thin. Her mother and sister are built the same way. If she weren't my BFF, I'd be terribly intimidated, but instead, I bask in her glow and appreciate her humor and calm, caring personality.

Also, re Kate's diet, she's a Dukan dieter, ditto with Carole. I didn't actually go on the Dukan diet, but I read about it and visualized being thinner. Also, I tried the oat bran and really liked that (I think the butter and sugar probably put a dent in the diet food's effectiveness, but whatevs.)

Of course, Rach is just going to become more square than rectangle over time, so expect nasty rumors to continue about Kate. @Hikari, if you check out the 'boarding the seaplane photos, you'll see Rach walking next to a woman whose legs are not a mile long and they're the same height/leg length. That kind of delusion must come in handy for Rach, however.


As for the plaster? How about diabetes? Finger pricks and sometimes they're freshly done? I also agree that it could just be stupid accidents and being very cautious about germs. I managed to cut myself on the dumbest things at the most inconvenient times, and she cooks and has three small children, gardens, has a dog, and works out - stuff happens.


And re Tulane, I'm not going to elaborate, I'll just add that the law school is the place to go if one is looking to practice law in Louisiana because of the Napoleonic Code track. One can choose to do the common law track, of course. A number of significant contributions have come from Louisiana law re oil and gas and real estate as well. Just for those who actually care.
Ozmanda said…
Been busy working and now looking forward to reading through this discussion - in the meantime - The gloves are well and truly off and neatly stored in the drawer :)

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/queen-unhappy-over-harry-and-meghans-pricey-cottage-renovations/news-story/4b902277f112f827b4521b79cd09d55a
Anonymous said…
@Design Doctor & @Hikari I'm your Plus 1 re: this...

Harry had friends before Meg isolated him. I'm not sure WTH is up with Harry, but prior to Rach, he was a flawed person but not the absolute cluster that he is now, so yes, hardly Rach's fall from grace. Rach, however, was definitely Harry's biggest FUBAR in a life of big FUBARs, so there's that.


@Lizzie I know, right? I mean seriously, I want to call her up and ask her what gives her the bloody right and who died to make her the wife of the man who was formerly 6th in line to the throne before she trashed the lives of everyone around her. She really, really, really proves: You can take the girl out of Crenshaw, but she's just going to take Crenshaw somewhere else. She is total nouveau-riche ticky tacky basic trash.


Design Doctor

If that grifter and her dumb as rocks prince get that house, then there is more wrong than we know. That is blasphemy. That says to every person in GB: "we know you're having a tough time, taxes are high, things are crazy, the world's burning down, literally and figuratively, but suck it, because Rach wants this house, and whatever Rach wants..."

AND I, too, want them to burn that witch ho to the ground: I want to see the phony taken down and her feet held to the fire for her duplicitous, dastardly deeds, the least of which is to seduce Harry, break his heart and family up. I want her revealed for all that she is and every sleazy, lying, whorish, despicable, duplicitous thing she's done, and I believe the BRF has the long game to do it, and the desire to take her down, too. It will take time. There is no running and screaming "whore, damned you, you whore!!" from BP, of course, but it will get told in time. It just takes time. No fingerprints left at the scene.
Ava C said…
Yes, Harry and Meghan married on 19 May - same as execution of Anne Boleyn. I was thinking of that as I watched Meghan and Doria speed by (wasn't it surprisingly fast!?) in the Wallis Simpson car. I thought the royals were up to something.

However - holding my hands up here - at that time I didn't see Meghan for what she was. I didn't really mind the engagement interview as it fitted my hopes that she would be faster hitting the ground than Kate had been, but I was shaken by the cost of the engagement shoot dress - very shaken - and shocked by Meghan's appearance at the KP engagement photo call. Bare legs in winter. Those terrible shoes. That coat like a dressing gown.

You have to remember, as other Nutties have said on this post, there was a LOT of criticism of Kate then. On Kate Middleton Review we were enthusiastically waiting for Meghan to show Kate how it's done. We'd only seen the red-carpet stylists' product, not Meghan herself. Somehow I'd missed the tacky side. There seemed to be a lot going for her. As Laurence Fox said this week, there was no racism. She was welcomed.

Considering I don't know her and she doesn't know me, I feel as if she's done a number, personally, on ME. Multiply that by tens of thousands, if not more, as I'm not alone.
Unknown said…
@Elle LOL, agree about basking in the loveliness that is Kate :) I also think this “Kate is bulimic” story is coming from Meg. Kind of like when the Rose rumor circulated right when Harry forewent his planned paternity leave to fly everywhere including Soho House instead of stay with his beloved wife and the new baby he was so anxious to have. Meg and her ways reads like a cheap magazine.
HappyDays said…
Hope PP rumors are just that, rumors.

Trevor and Cory both dodged a bullet. The Sun is touting this as an exclusive:
MEGHA-MANSION Meghan Markle is eyeing up a £21million waterfront dream home in Canada for her move with Prince Harry and Archie

£21 million converts to $27.3 million (US). She’s never even owned a home

Narcissists like her are outrageous spenders, especially if it's someone else's money. When the money's gone, they are too.
You could give them all the money in the world, and it still wouldn't be enough.

She will spend Harry into bankruptcy, and as narcissists do, she will then leave and look for her next target.
Anonymous said…
Although, re Tulane and the Napoleonic Code (Louisiana Civil Code) track, LSU, Southern, and Loyola are also good law schools. Also, Louisiana is not pure Napoleonic Code, but is referred to that way, generally speaking. Very generally, since it is not on topic nor BRF-related.
That shiny new house with all of the windows the Harkles want doesn't seen very secure, does it? How about attacks from the water? So is the Canadian Navy or Coast Guard going to pay for their security when they are open to the ocean?
Are the Harkles going to go to their new neighbors in Vancouver and tell them to not speak to them, as they did with Toad Hall? Will their neighbors want their security checking on them, too? Will they want a background check?
Won't the neighbors just love all of the boats that will be going by, trying to get a peek at the Harkles? Any boater knows that if the lights are on at night, you can see EVERYTHING INSIDE THE HOUSE from a boat from a very, very long distance. That's not very secure, is it, unless the Harkles and their neighbors intend to live with the drapes closed.
Also, that just about eats up everything Harry is worth. So who is going to pay for it?
Scandi Sanskrit said…
Laurence Fox went from having 50K followers to 100K followers on Twitter overnight and he didn't even need to buy followers & a bot army like Meghan 😂😂💜💜💜💜💜💜
Sarah said…
I think the story about Charles not having endless funds is important. It discussed how his sons are bleeding him dry. I suspect it’s a precursor to the Sussex duo being cutoff or put on a limited allowance. The less money they have, the speedier the divorce will be. Megs will be on to richer pastures. Russian? Saudi?
CookieShark said…
I just don't get it. Why marry Harry in the first place? She's right back where she started, in Canada, wearing yoga pants, boots, and potentially shilling fashion and makeup on the side. Why not just stay married to Trevor or with Cory? There wouldn't be any restrictions on her merching then.

Signed,
Confused CookieShark
@Cookie, It's because she never thought that Harry's country would turn against them. She thought she could come into Britain and just take over. She didn't expect the backlash. Now, she's on the run and desperately merching to get some cash and, of course 18k and diamond necklaces for free.
Now the country she's run to doesn't want her, and the US doesn't want her. Harry doesn't have enough money to keep her satisfied, so she will dump him for a Russian oligarch or maybe a Saudi prince or a tech billionaire. The Harkles seem to know those people anyway, so I'm sure she will be/is shopping for a new husband once she's run through Harry's money. Harry is such a fool, and everybody can see it but him!
Wanda said…
@Elle - Regarding Meghan's dream house in The Sun - I say "Yea, Right!" I can see it if they 'borrow' the home from the owner like they usually do. Maybe they will rent or SQUAT in it. But I doubt they will buy it especially since she's apparently heading to Hollywood!
Anonymous said…
@Ozmanda Re the house, I love this bit esp: "But a senior royal source told the Mail it’s doubtful that “the Duchess will ever really return to the UK in a meaningful way." Running that thru the HerMaj-O-Lator: "If that woman drags her skanky Crenshaw ass back into our country, I will go full bat-merde Skippy on her and drag that wig to the Tower!" (This translation could be a bit off since I've not installed the recent upgrade.)

I think that Rach & H knew they would never live there, but just delighted in spending the money on upgrades to say "thanks for all the frogs." Rach will someday be one of the most infamously hated women on the planet. She is that despicable. And Harry will be ranked among the most foolish for falling for all of this
Wanda said…
When is the IRS going to catch up with her??? Shouldn't she be paying taxes on income such as the furnishings that Prince Charles paid for in Frogmore, or even the gift of a rent/mortgage free home while they still lived in the UK?
There was a poster here whose mother worked for the IRS - I wonder if they would know everything Markle should be responsible to pay income taxes on and what RF records the IRS would be able to peek into thanks to MM.
SwampWoman said…
@JocelynsBellinis: Harry doesn't have enough money to keep her satisfied, so she will dump him for a Russian oligarch or maybe a Saudi prince or a tech billionaire.

If she tries her temper tantrums on either the Russian oligarch or Saudi prince, she will sadly disappear. I think a tech billionaire will be waaaay too smart for her.
Anonymous said…
I keep seeing this about Rach: Russian oligarch or maybe a Saudi prince or a tech billionaire and IDGI. She's pretty-ish in a certain light, but she's nothing special at all. Her nose is melting, her hair is thinning, those wigs are ratty, and she's built like the Danby DCR031B1BSLDD model. SO, I don't know why a man who had the money to buy anything would buy her.
Anonymous said…
@Swampwoman lol, once again, similar take, same time lol. Yeah, tech billionaires, way too smart. Even if they are into the hottie angle, she's not all that, and many of them actually want brains first, go figure.
Sandie said…
@CookieShark: 'I just don't get it. Why marry Harry in the first place? She's right back where she started, in Canada, wearing yoga pants, boots, and potentially shilling fashion and makeup on the side. Why not just stay married to Trevor or with Cory? There wouldn't be any restrictions on her merching then.'

Yes, but now she has access to wealth way beyond what she could amass for herself (and all the lovely stuff and elite holidays it buys, plus the 'staff'), the global fame she always wanted, and open doors to A-list celebrities.

The Tig, her lifestyle social media account, had about 1 million followers (analysis indicates that she probably bought bots to get to that number); the SussexRoyal IG account and more than 10 times that many followers.

She could only afford to rent a house, not in the elite part of town, when she lived in Toronto; her home in the UK was on the Windsor Estate and was five times the size of her Toronto digs.

She had to hustle and merch to get designer clothes to wear for free (and was refused by every designer in the UK); after Harry she was ordering hugely expensive Givenchy ... whatever she wanted (ironically, still trying to get the stuff for free).

She was hyped up as a Hollywood actress and global humanitarian before Harry but the truth is hardly anyone in the world knew her and she was definitely not Vogue cover material, or even People cover material; after Harry she was on every magazine cover, week after week and became known everywhere in the world (heck, her wedding was televised and watched by millions).

She may be wearing pre-Harry style of clothing, but the expensive Givenchy will come out for the major events (the Oscars, the Met Gala ...).
Sarah said…
I read somewhere that the hottest thing for men in tech was finding the most highly educated woman you can and convincing her to stay home with your kids. I don’t think tech guys are her thing.
Megs needs someone who would like the status of bagging a British princess who was also from somewhere where her antics were less known. I think Middle East because bad decisions and going for things that are a terrible fit seems to be her MO. If the British royals were too conservative and cramped her style, then more conservative is the last thing she should do. Therefore, she’ll probably find some wealthy Saudi.
HappyDays said…
From Nutty’s post:
Maybe his reappearance is being used as some sort of message to Meg. "You're not welcome in Hollywood" or "your past is about to come out"?
How long until we hear from Cory the chef, Meg's "niece" Noel Rasmussen, or even the mysterious Joseph Goldman-Giuliano?

@Nutty: Trevor might speak publicly about Meghan, but my guess is he is well-connected enough around Hollywood that he has had the opportunity to give people in the business all the information they need to know about Meghan to discourage them from working with Harry and Meghan, or at least warn them about the Sussexes. That paired with all that’s already known about Meghan and how she and Harry have treated HM, PP, PC and PW in the Megxit bombshell, lets them know what type of narcissistic diva-sleazebag she is.

They are likely to at first be a novelty, but unless they prove working with them is profitable, they may just end up as a flash in the pan. I also think Meghan will piss off enough executives and other movers and shakers that she will damage their brand and themselves.

And as we can see by the article in today’s Sun (UK), Meghan has VERY expensive taste. If they do not bring in big money for a long time, she will bankrupt Harry.
Anonymous said…
@Sandie Givenchy will come out for the major events (the Oscars, the Met Gala ...).

Rach may be able to wrangle a Givenchy or force an invite to the major events, BUT ONLY IF the A-Listers and designers don't mind an excommunication from the BRF. After calling Her Maj's fam "toxic" and WTH else she said about them, all of it nasty and bitter, and senior royal sources saying Rach won't be back, it's likely that lines have been drawn in the sand, and is Rach the connection anyone with a brain would choose over the BRF? I'm thinking not.
DesignDoctor said…
@CookieShark

Why marry Harry in the first place? She's right back where she started, in Canada, wearing yoga pants, boots, and potentially shilling fashion and makeup on the side. Why not just stay married to Trevor or with Cory? There wouldn't be any restrictions on her merching then.

Yes, she is right back where she started, in Canada, wearing yoga pants and boots, but now she is The Duchess of Sussex a title which (she thinks) makes her the big fish in a small(er) pond than Britain. No other pesky (higher ranking) royals to have to walk behind, curtsey, or cow tow to--she can make her own standards and follow her own rules! All while using her elevated status as DoS to open doors to endless opportunities and pounds! (In her version of reality, any way.)
HappyDays said…
Looks like Meghan is burning ALL her bridges in the UK. From The Sun:

Victoria Beckham looks tense as she's spotted for the first time since 'fall out' with Meghan Markle ... - The Sun US
meghan and victoria beckham fall out from www.the-sun.com
4 days ago · VICTORIA Beckham cut a glum figure as she was spotted for the first time since her shock 'fall out' with Meghan Markle.

How long does everyone think it will take Meghan to start burning bridges in Hollywood?
I probably wrote/spoke too quickly. I think most of you are right about the tech millionaire aspect. Most do want a highly educated woman. However, she could become one of their mistresses. Did Bezos ever marry that actress he left his wife for?
If the yachting rumors are true, she already knows how she'll be treated by the Russians or Middle Easterners.
Wanda said…
Thanks Design Doctor! I took the bluebells bouquet image from an antique British Raphael Tuck postcard. Raphael Tuck and Sons was granted a Royal Warrant by Queen Victoria in the 1890's and produced greeting cards, valentines, lithographs etc as well as postcards.

My Mom grew up in Scotland down the road from a "bluebell wood" and loved going there as a child when they were in bloom. It's a gorgeous site - like a huge carpet of blue.

Yes, I keep joking about finding a new girl for Harry, but seriously if he were to meet someone else it probably would end the Markle reign! They should get the men in gray to interview candidates for a new wife for Hazza!
DesignDoctor said…

Does anyone know why Sparkles was refused by every designer in the UK? (besides the fact she always looks a mess)?

@BlueBell Woods I agree the men in grey should interview for a new wife for Hazza!
Well, this in interesting...Meghan didn't take her clothes with her to the UK, nor her furniture, it's all been in storage. Her clothes have been shipped to the Victoria mansion.

https://etcanada.com/news/576046/duchess-meghan-never-moved-her-wardrobe-to-london/
Sandie said…
Harry is actually the perfect partner for Meghan the narcissist. He has given her:
status
wealth
a global platform
adoration
control
...

However, Harry is an empath and so, as we have seen, she will finish him off, and his wealth is not unlimited, and, without the platform of the BRF, they will probably fail in their bid for global fame and wealth, so he will be less and less able to provide for her extrinsic needs in a relationship, so she will dump him.

Her next man? Famous, wealthy, successful (a man who can give her the best of everything), with some kind of weakness she can exploit to get the adoration, and through that the control.
Humor Me said…
Time to go to bed. No Megxit release tonight.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7899875/Queens-aides-finalise-details-Megxit-deal-announcement-imminent.html.
Article says they are deadlocked on security and titles.
HappyDays said…

lizzie said…
@Bluebell Woods said "...They have similar general knowledge tests for teachers that I believe are more difficult. I'm sure there are prep books for the foreign service test. I wonder why she didn't try to take the exam again?.."

My guess is that while M may have had some grandiose ideas, she was never all that sure about entering foreign service. Sure seems to me if that was her true career goal, she wouldn't have majored in Theater. PoliSci would have made more sense. And her International Relations major isn't a stand-alone major at NW. It's an add-on major any student can do as long as he/she has another major. In other words, no one can graduate from NW with only a major in International Relations.

@lizzie: My guess is Meghan majored in theater/drama and international relations was just a minor. Because narcissists will lie to your face without blinking an eye, Meghan probably promoted the false info that she had a double major at NW, when in reality it wasn’t.
abbyh said…

My my my

Piers is commenting that they are blackmailing HM. (never thought I would see that).

I pray PP is still with us (H doesn't need to think he had another lousy good by death).

Sandie - I think you might be right about his feeling shame/guilt and wanting to delay all truth related to what is reality.

Sadie Sunshine - welcome. I, like you, think she would turn down a lot of offers that we may not ever hear about (or hear much later). Alas, I think by the time she realizes she had totally missed the boat, she will be rather livid, kind of the same kind of lived that we "maybe" observing currently when her demands are met with soft reasoning as to why they are not immediately complied with. Just my option. your mileage may vary

Bank of Dad
Shocking (no, not really. Haven't met too many people who didn't want the gift money without strings but ... you may have. And, I'm certain that he might not have been fully aware of just how much has been going out (it's hard for someone under you to tell you this unpleasantry). It's like swimming in a rip tide, you hear an amount but it doesn't register until you get the year end total (you don't realize how far you have drifted down until you pass a landmark which used to be on the other side of where you thought north was.

Websleuths (I wanted to be a part of them but their entry seemed more than I could meet. Now, it sounds like a rough crowd maybe I really should not have tried to visit their party.) I like this party (and Nutty - I know about you because I lurked on CDAN, never posted but you mentioned your blog. Thank you. Thank you very much).

NW University
How odd it is to have your sorority not say anything publically one way or the other about you (shade of omission?) or that your profs/department isn't posting your play hand outs?

Turn H into a frog? OH gosh, how funny. Ouch. Funny. Sad for him and his dreams. Still funny.

Ava and JocelynsBellinis about the Queen not being able to contain M and releasing dirt to slow her down.
I can see how modern/instant news 24 hours would add an element of need to respond now that was not there 100+ years ago. And, loose cannon is not and had never been in someone's wheelbox. Draw your own conclusions for the future based on past behaviour (but I think we all are in agreement here on that).

Henry VIII = take a look a fun look https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30omwb
What I learned was how the accident steam rolled him and created all kinds of issues for his body (could be smelled a room away). Currently reading Starkey's book about the wives. And yes, I think the date of the H&M wedding, car was not an accident. She is quite particular in her word choices. We just do not always understand them in the immediate.

Gift to M, this is similar to the public officials in the US documenting the receipt of expensive gifts. Do the current rules allow this? IDK but I suspect if not, there will be something.

If conservative is a problem, anyone in the Middle East is not a good idea. Many a lass has wound up there and had a lot of difficulty getting home for various reasons. Sure the guy might be fun but staying on home turf is much safer legally. (the DM often has
the periodic story of a woman who made a mistake and is stuck there trying to get back).







Sandie said…
When Meghan moved in with Harry at Kensington Palace, she packed up her clothes (she did take items from the Suits wardrobe department) and furniture and put them in storage in Canada.
SwampWoman said…
@Sandie: When Meghan moved in with Harry at Kensington Palace, she packed up her clothes (she did take items from the Suits wardrobe department) and furniture and put them in storage in Canada.

Aaaand never retrieved them and brought them to the UK. That is what we Florida crackers would call a clue.
Ava C said…
The thing about gifts reminds me of reading about a jewel-encrusted present (think it was a sword) that was given to Jackie Kennedy in her capacity as First Lady. She apparently tried to get a jeweller to replace the jewels with fakes, so she could keep the real ones, but was actually told NO. That was going TOO FAR. Very few people ever said no.
Wanda said…
@Happy Days -
Regarding MM's Majors - yes I thought there was some falsehood about her majors. I remember someone pointing out that what she claimed didn't add up but I'm not sure exactly what - maybe it was because it was reported differently on the graduation program?

@Design Doctor -
LOL!!!🤣
Anonymous said…
But understand, Harry, that sometimes your best friends in life are the ones who are willing to tell you when you are wrong.

Whatever the consequences might be.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7896645/REBECCA-ENGLISH-reveals-touching-insight-Prince-Harrys-personality.html

Re William taking up for Harry ...But recent events do make me think back to a chance meeting more than a decade ago in a nightclub when your brother said protectively of you: ‘Give him a break, he’s just a young guy in love.’ It’s probably just as relevant today.

William was looking out for you then. Can things be really so different now? Is it really wise to divorce yourself so acrimoniously from the only family that will ever truly understand the pressures you are under?
Ozmanda said…
Why did she marry haz? This is my thought - because she could. She has the type of person who found more gratification n showing others what she has and proving she can do it - rather then what result she is going to achieve.

In forensic psychology there is aterm commonly called “upward social comparison” simply put, a individual has certqain expectations based on upbringing and lifetime activities. If you are used to a certain lifestyle, your mental gratification has to match that level and the same “excitement” that others may experience at different events won’t effect everyone in the same way for the above reason so actions has to be undertaken to exceed those expectations to get that mental payback. In her case, she achieves that gratification and her excitement brain centres get triggered by just not achieving something but showing others how she is "better".

Couple of examples just from what I have read:

1) When she got her suits role, she held a clothing party with friends when she gave away her old wardrobe. Some may consider this to be giving - I see it has grandstanding and showing "I am now better then you so you can have my old clothes.
2) Her wedding invites were mainly to "celebrities" that she likely didn't know at all - not so she can bask inter famous but show others she has "famous" friends who will travel just for her.
3) her weird jealousy of Kate - Kate is superior in status, connections, looks, fortune and her close relationship with the royal family and especially Harry.
4) This separation from the royal family and her mood since is the ultimate "look what I have done".

There are more but I have to finish a paper on money laundering (exciting know). One of the first lessons I learnt in training is to not analyse a methodology based on what *I* would consider reasonable or/and fair, but on the actions. That was a major wakeup call for me as I realised just how much my own perspectives and bias was influencing my analysis. So I may be off base but this is how I see it :)

If I am right the big huge problem is these personalities will have to constantly aim higher to continue to get the buzz - sort of like a drug addict needs to take more to get a baseline - never mind high as the body forms a tolerance. My concern is where will this end? I have no idea but I have a feeling Archie will be a part of that - I hope not though.
Sandie said…
@Ozmanda:

Thanks so much for that informative post looking at Megsy's motivations.

To me, her modus operandi is so destructive and ultimately self-destructive that I do find it difficult to understand (and no I do not believe the story about anxiety ... someone so privileged cannot get professional help?).
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Anonymous said…
@Ozmanda money laundering is exciting and interesting! Have fun for me and color me the good kind of jealous (it's the same shade as inspired).

I agree with you re putting our own expectations aside. That is why so many of the fraudsters are unbelievably rich people with access to plenty, highest levels of the organization or their industry, and it's overlooked because "why would they do that when they already have some much". It seems nonsensical because it is - relatively. But they do it because nothing is never enough.

Anyway, go you. I'm trying to find a way back into the overlap between legal and financial in AML investigations. That's a little more fun than what I'm doing now, but live/learn, right?
I can't find my own comment. Can anybody point me to where I said for HMTQ to release dirt on MM? I ask, because I don't remember saying that. Maybe I was delusional at the time? lol.
Anonymous said…
@JocelynsBellinis. Just go back through the comments, do Ctrl F and search JocelynsBellinis, you'll find all of your comments that way.
Wanda said…
@ JocelynsBellinis - LOL That was my comment re the dirt. When comments are copied/pasted in order to quote in a response it sometimes leads to a mis-quote.
Wanda said…
Great Paul Thomas cartoon of the Harkles on the DM;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7901241/PAUL-THOMAS-Harry-Meghan-leaving-Britain.html
Ozmanda said…
@Elle I could wax lyrical about the AML/CTF laws until the cows come home :)

Sandie - good points - professional help only really works if 1) someone accepts they need it and 2) they know what the problem is to approach the right treatment. As someone with anxiety I find it insulting when people use it as a crutch to explain why they are idiots.

It is amazing how many people who have plenty of money gets nabbed for shoplifting or thefts of other kinds - it isn’t about tithe money or items - it is the brain craving excitement/attention/distraction from something going on in life. My boss once told me “sometimes people just do stupid things because they can :)
SDJ said…
Elle said I don't know why a man who had the money to buy anything would buy her.

For "bragging" rights (gag), or just because he can. Its a power move. See me, big rich self-made guy from the wrong side of the world: i bagged a royal.
Then it becomes a game among that crowd with yachts. Who gets her next?

MM should see how that worked out for Lindsay Lohan (who the Saviour Oprah tried to rehab)
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@Elle, neither cold, nor wind nor snow shall keep Harkle Lites from their attempts. And thanks for telling me how to find my comments.

@Bluebell, thanks. I thought I was losing my mind!
YankeeDoodle said…
Did the Sussex team check with the American Kennel Club over titles? My neighbor is going to officially name her dog Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, etc., etc.

I have not been in town and thus do not know if anybody has brought up the subject that Meghan is not a British citizen. Her title Duchess of Sussex is thus not official, and she cannot be a HRH. She is an American, FGS, and never was a royal. Of course, she can call herself anything she wants. She can officially petition an American court to change her name to Duchess of Sussex. Americans can change their names to whatever they want, as long as it is judged not to be horrifically awful, such as Adolf Hitler (although they can be named anything their parent(s) initially put on their birth certificate.) Any changes to a birth name must go through the court system. It is a hassle to change a maiden name to a married name today, too, and many women just do not want to go through the bureaucracy until they have children.

Harry was born HRH Prince Henry, and will be the son, brother and uncle of Kings. He cannot be stripped of what rightfully is his status and name from birth. However, he can easily have the silly Sussex name taken away, which was a marriage “gift” from the Queen. It would be a terrible decision to even try to take HRH from Harry, and would turn into a horrible backlash. Nobody but a few Americans care about Meghan, except to gossip about her incredible stupid words and actions. She is Daily Mail)s bread and butter. American tv, especially the stupid Today Show hosts, and other dwindling old media, have different hosts saying Meghan is great because she is American and partially black, and others actually think that Meghan is English, and Harry is second in line to be king after William dies, or will be king if the Queen pucks Harry. Stupid is as stupid does.
Rainy Day said…
@Ava C Kate and anorexia - you can see she is toned and strong.

I agree, especially when you look at her legs. Anorexic women usually have toothpick legs that look like they couldn’t support more than 50 pounds. Kate’s legs look strong and toned. She’s certainly very, very thin, but I think she looks healthy.
Rainy Day said…
Had to share my favourite comment from DM today. Someone said that Meghan was dropping in on Vancouver charities “like a deranged fairy godmother”!
HappyDays said…
Sandie said…
@Ozmanda:

Thanks so much for that informative post looking at Megsy's motivations.

To me, her modus operandi is so destructive and ultimately self-destructive that I do find it difficult to understand (and no I do not believe the story about anxiety ... someone so privileged cannot get professional help?).

@Sandie and Ozmanda: Of the all the recognized personality disorders, people with narcissistic personality disorder rarely seek professional help. Their disorder gets in the way because basically, they think the whole world is wrong and they’re right. It’s much easier to play victim.

Even if she ends up living in a used trailer on the outskirts of Barstow, Meghan would likely never be able to admit to herself that she might be the reason she had so many problems in the RF and why so many people in the public dislike her. Narcissists are inveterate liars, and the first person they lie to every day looks right back at them from the bathroom mirror.
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Wanda said…
Found a couple of Times articles reflecting the UK people's frustration regarding the money spent (wasted) on the Harkles. This one suggests H&M should have to pay back the amount spent on the Frogmore Cottage renovations.
Perhaps they could work out how much was spent on the necessary restoration work the building needed to bring it to code and charge them for everything else. The building needed basic work whether the Harkles moved in or not, but a substantial amount was spent on converting the cottage from multi-units into a one-family home. What are they going to do with it now? The article talks about the Harkles having to pay rent on it but I doubt MM will be back in the UK. The need for staff housing is also brought up. Will they have to turn it into multi-unit dwellings again? The Harkles sure have created an all-around mess.

Rent row looms over Harry and Meghan’s Windsor home, Frogmore Cottage
Charlotte Wace
January 15 2020
The Times
Frogmore Cottage was recently renovated with £2.4 million of taxpayers’ money

Frogmore Cottage could prompt a row over the “opaque” world of royal rents when the Duke and Duchess of Sussex become financially independent.

Having cited their desire to make their own money and retire from official duties, the couple would be expected to pay for their Windsor home, recently renovated with £2.4 million of taxpayers’ money, to avoid public criticism.

Yet the subject of what they pay could prove controversial. Royal family members with official duties are given residences free of charge, while others can live in properties as rent-paying tenants. However, there is little information available about who pays what, the list of properties that exist and how much they are worth.

The rent paid by Princess Eugenie — a “non-senior” royal who lives in Ivy Cottage at Kensington Palace — is not disclosed to the public. Royal aides say that it is set with reference to commercial rents but adjusted to reflect the fact that the cottage is behind a security cordon and cannot be commercially let.

Norman Baker, a former Liberal Democrat MP who has written extensively about royal finances, said that there were “around 200” royal properties available for family members and some staff who qualify for residence. This is thought to include flats for gardeners to apartments, cottages and mansions lived in by members of the royal household.

He said that the rent system used for royal properties was “deliberately opaque”. “It is time to bring royal finances out of the 18th century and into the 21st. It’s time they were fully accountable and properly audited like any other part of the public sector,” he said.

Mr Baker suggested that it would not be enough for Harry and Meghan to pay rent. “As £2.4 million from the public purse was spent on Frogmore Cottage they should now give that back to the taxpayer,” he said.

He added: “If they are not carrying out royal duties they are not occupying it [Frogmore Cottage] to deliver a public service so the money was spent on false pretences.”

Rents from properties are considered as income in the annual sovereign grant accounts, in line with the recommendation from the public accounts committee for the royal household to maximise such income.

A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: “There is a limited amount of accommodation in London and Windsor which can be rented by household staff who meet set criteria.”

The palace did not comment on the number of properties available to family members and their staff.
Wanda said…
This second Times article also pertains to the murky Frogmore Cottage issue. Apparently the Harkles are still keeping a rented flat for RPOs to service them while living at the cottage. I'm including a couple of interesting poster's comments at the end...

Harry and Meghan: £4,000 a month to rent flat for royal protection officers
Charlotte Wace
January 18 2020, 12:01am,
The Times

Boydguards for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are staying in a luxury flat previously used by celebrities

Royal protection officers guarding the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are running up a bill of more than £4,000 a month on a luxury flat in Windsor, The Times understands.

The police team need a base near the couple’s Frogmore Cottage home, which cost £2.4 million to renovate.

The two-bedroom property being hired by their bodyguards, which The Times has not identified for security reasons, is described as “luxurious” on an official website and has been used by celebrities.

As apartments have a minimum booking requirement of only seven nights it means that the officers can leave at short notice to travel the world with their principals. But this flexibility and the location comes at a price.

A would-be guest who tried to book was told that rates varied depending on the time of year and was quoted “£150 a night” as a rough price. The monthly total could be “upwards of £4,000 a month”.

It comes amid rising costs for royal protection.

The expenditure on air travel for bodyguards rose from £3.47 million in 2016-17 to £4.62 million in 2018-19. The cost of hotels increased from £1.12 million in 2016-17 to more than £2 million in 2017-18 and senior officers fear that the security bill is spiralling out of control.

The budget for Met Police protection officers is expected to rise further should the Duke and Duchess of Sussex keep their taxpayer-funded security when they split their time between North America and the UK.

Discussions about their protection are continuing and the couple were this week forced to withdraw their claim that they are “internationally protected people” entitled to bodyguards.

The Metropolitan Police and Buckingham Palace both declined to comment.

Comments-from Times readers
"I have read so many comments over time from residents of Windsor who walk on the Palace grounds and have said no one appears to be living in Frogmore Cottage. No one around during the day and no lights on at night..... So, if no one has been living there, security wouldn't be needed. What on earth is going on and will the Public ever know the truth of the matter?"

"The fact that security were not allocated living areas within the cottage, especially as it was purposefully renovated recently shows a complete lack of care for public funds."
Ozmanda said…

lol @Rainy day I had this mental image of her frantically running into various shelters screeching "I need to help someone ..ANYONE!!!" bespoke wig flying and all :)

"Rainy Day said...
Had to share my favourite comment from DM today. Someone said that Meghan was dropping in on Vancouver charities “like a deranged fairy godmother”!
Nutty Flavor said…
Good morning!

Seems as if we have passed 8am in the UK with no announcement of Prince Philip’s demise, so presumably he is still with us.
Nelo said…


https://unherd.com/2020/01/what-has-the-new-york-times-got-against-britain/

The New York Times’ bizarre campaign against Britain
For those weak on British geography:

Diana died in Paris - that's overseas - that's why she was flown home.

George VI died at Sandringham - that's in England, he was brought back to London by train for lying in state and funeral, likewise to Windsor for interment, all overland journies.
WRE said…
Nutty - am a long time lurker of your fine blog but this is my first time post. I read with amusement about the conversation re Preach & Leech's long-term stay in Canada and must bring this to the attention of all you fine people ...

I have read about the 1919 Nickel Resolution which Canada adopted says that it's all fine and dandy for the Royals to visit the country but if they want to stay in it, with all their titles and paraphanilia, that is unacceptable. They'd have to renounce their titles and all the fancy stuff that goes with them!

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-harry-and-meghan-and-why-members-of-the-royal-family-cant-live-in/

So please tell me, how will Ginge and Cringe be able to merch their royalness if they are shown the door? Ooooh (rubbing hands together like Shylock) I kin hardly wait for that to happen ;)
My my, Trevor is quite the silver fox, isn't he? Papped or not, he seems to be the kind to kill them with kindness (and silence).

I do believe he must be house ded lately by paps who would like him to give at least some sound bites. But he's kept mum so far and that how he should play it (in.my opinion). But if at all he is showing off, the good for him I say. Im all for the petty Revenge-body vibes he is giving off.
Duty calls said…
Some Tumblr blogs think she staged the photos at the airport to look like she was in Victoria? Seems like this would be easy to prove or disprove. She looked like the cheshire cat in the land rover with security. Very pleased with herself.
Ava C said…
@JocelynsBellinis I can't find my own comment. Can anybody point me to where I said for HMTQ to release dirt on MM? I ask, because I don't remember saying that. Maybe I was delusional at the time? lol.

Many apologies - I've checked and it was BluebellWoods' comment. It started with your name at the top when I pasted it as it was her response to you and I pasted it en masse when responding to that. So apologies to you both!
The Trever sighting, IMO, would definitely cause MM to have more pap sightings herself. By now it seems quite apparent that her regular pap sightings are as much for Harry's benefit as they a means to show off to the regular public.

He is over in London scowling away his leg over Goodwill while she is enjoying her "new found freedom" (by driving herself, oh man gosh! ) Something is obviously not quite right in paradise.

Also, the pilates bff...ufff! So this is her latest bff now. What is she doing, trying to get into an Oscar appearance worthy red carpet body last minute? Wouldn't be surprised if she is schmoozing up to Elton John to go as his plus one! 🙄
Morning everyone :O)

Regarding the stuff about PP last night. Late last year a very similar rumour started about the Queen, so unless we hear anything official, I'm going with hoax.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-dead-hoax-vile-whatsapp-21008875
xxxxx said…
Say Megs almost has a deal with Vita-Mix to slap the Sussex Royal name on a limited edition model. I doubt Vita Mix will sign until they see solid proof that Megs+H have an agreement with the BRF that their Sussex titles will not be revoked midway through. Same applies to other merching schemes and to large donors to their dicey foundations.

This is what Harry is trying to secure in London. The Pilates instructor she flew in, Megs needs this workout to keep from going crazy plus a familiar old friend to talk to.
xxxxx said…
Of course Megs is climbing up the walls, she is counting on far away Hapless to deliver for her merching schemes. And burning up the phone lines, instructing him multiple times per day.
I just spotted this in a BBC article from the other day, does this mean there's a chance HMTQ could object and stop/delay the registration? Or is it more likely she'd have already done it if she was intending to? Or... could an objection be already in progress and we'll only find out if the registration doesn't go through?

How can they trademark the Sussex royal name? - Wendy Watkins, Herefordshire
Prince Harry and Meghan applied in June 2019 to trademark the "Sussex Royal" brand in the UK, for items including books, clothing, charitable fundraising, education and social-care services.

Their application was published in December 2019.

If no-one objects, the trademark could be registered as early as February 2020.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51107687
I bet she is going to fly in more "friends" to show everyone how popular she is. Her posse is going to milk this Russian oligarcs hospitality dry. Any guesses who the next one will be? My guesses - Misha, Lindsay j roth, somebody from Soho House to establish that connection, someone British to show the world she did make some friends there, a couple of mystery friends (MA??), Benita Litt (did I get that name right?)
Basically, everyone but Harry.

Also, just a guess, but I think k maybe the next time we see her driving around we might see Archie in a car seat (very well hidden, but quite obvious). She needs the world to believe right now tat she does have the baby and the speculations are only growing by the day.

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