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Does Meghan's political involvement help or hurt the causes she supports?

A brief snapshot: Katy Perry, in a sequined floor-length mermaid gown with a cape made from the American flag, in Iowa to support Hillary Clinton in 2015. 

Perry looked more than a little out of place performing outdoors in the daytime, surrounded by modestly-dressed civilians in the mostly agricultural state. 

Trump ended up winning Iowa 51.2% to 41.7%; Hillary's performance was the worst by a Democrat in the state since 1980. 

Katy's glamorous presence was apparently not a plus.

A different approach

Another brief snapshot: George Clooney, then at the peak of his career, meets with Barack Obama in 2008 just as the future president's campaign was beginning to catch fire.

"I told him I'd do whatever it takes to get him elected," Clooney told the press, "including staying the hell away from him if that was what he needed."

George was apparently smarter than Katy, and Obama won his election easily.

Joe and Kamala and Meghan and Harry

Let's return to the present, when Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, has make her electoral preferences clear. 

Her recent low-resolution video, apparently made on an iPhone 3, urged women to vote for "the change we all need and deserve" was seen as a tacit endorsement of Joe Biden and his vice-presidential nominee, Kamala Harris.

Meghan went suggest that those who didn't vote to do so were "part of the problem. If you're complacent, you're complicit." 

(Opponents of President Donald Trump frequently use the word "complicit" for anyone who works with Trump, suggesting that they are "complicit" in his misdeeds.)

But does Meghan really have the ability to move any votes?

Meg the persuader

One of the most important things you learn when you study communications and journalism is that it's not about what you say - it's about the effect your words have on the viewer, listener, or reader.

If that individual is, say, an Iowa farmer wondering why a woman in a sequined dress and a flag cape is performing in a parking lot on a Sunday afternoon at a time most people would rather be watching football, the effect may be negative on her chosen candidate.

And Katy Perry is, at least, generally well-liked.

Compare her case to Meghan, a runaway member of the British royal family, unemployed and couchsurfing, but strangely able to buy a luxury mansion from a mysterious Russian oligarch. 

A woman with an increasingly odd head of hair, a meek and cowering husband, and a very small fan club. 

Is Meghan really the type of person whom Americans identify with, someone who can convince them to vote and vote as she suggests?

Or will she have a negative effect on her chosen candidate?

Biden has other, better celebrities on his side

The Biden-Harris team already has the endorsement of much more popular celebrities. 

Taylor Swift, Lebron James, and John Legend have shared their support for the Democratic candidate. So have Billie Eilish and Steph and Ayesha Curry. 

Cardi B, one of the hottest celebrities around whatever you think of her, even did an interview with Biden last week - if you can call it an interview, since Cardi does all the talking. 

The last thing Biden really needs is another celebrity endorsement - in fact, so many celebrity endorsements run the risk of making him look like the candidate of the glitterati as opposed to the common man, common woman, or common non-binary individual.

The person who really benefits

If anyone benefits from Meg's political activism, it is her own brand, or what she hopes to make into her own brand - woke celebrity ex-Royal. 

A (bejeweled) hand extended to help women, minorities, and dogs, at least until the dogs prove too bothersome and have to be left behind somewhere near Toronto. 

Do you think Meg's activism will help the Biden/Harris ticket, or the causes she claims to support?






Comments

Christine said…
Hello Ladies and Gents,

Such a stupid article about how she's dressing now. Fluff PR put out to keep any sort of talk about her going. I may not like Meghan, but she's clearly an attractive woman. That's not the problem with Meghan. Not her ethnicity, not her clothes, hair, makeup, etc, etc ad nauseum. I don't like the constant focus on her looks because I believe she uses that type of stuff to her advantage with Harry, the Royal Family, whomever. She's being 'picked on'!!! Poor, poor non-white Meghan. I never read or comment much on her looks. I actually could even feel bad for the woman based on the fact that she's raked over the coals about her hair. I have very curly hair and though many people like it, it can be a curse LOL. Constant figuring out hair styles, straightening, etc. It's a pain in the ass sometimes. I don't care for her weird extensions, but again, that's not the major malfunction with Meghan Markle!

Leading me to another topic that I can tell I am in the minority about here. Please don't drive me away with torches cause I love all you guys BUT Speaking about Archie... the kid is real. She became pregnant with him and carried him HERSELF. This is another area where Meghan is able to hugely use to her advantage. Hear me out.... these rumors are just putting more money in her pocket. She's able to use this stuff to keep the Royal Family on the line because they know that she was pregnant with the child and delivered him so they think it unfair that she's subjected to such lies. All of it, every single bit plays in with Meghan's narcissism. I've said this before but I'll repeat once more. She KNEW she had to have Harry's child. Literally nothing was more important. She probably waited until after the wedding to stay slim and to be able to drink and maybe do some coke, but the minute she got Harry in the sack after that, there was one goal and one goal only. In her classic way, every single moment of her pregnancy was used to her advantage. Announcing at Eugenie's wedding, constant emphasis on her stomach, rubbing, caressing...literally rubbing the money child. The games she played with the due date, delivery hospital, the name, everything, it was all done to cause fervor and a world wide craze over Archie. That is much more believable than the fact that she had to line up a surrogate, wear bumps, hide the surrogate's birth, etc. Come on. That's all bs, in my opinion. I would let all those rumors go of Harry being incredulous over her being pregnant, then him knowing she wasn't pregnant and going along with it go. It just doesn't pass the sniff test. How is it so much easier to believe those crazy stories than to believe she was pregnant for reasons like her bump moved around and changed sizes?! Then seeing Meghan post partum for those few appearances proved it to me. Forget her body, her face- she had that post partum face with the enlarged lips and nose. It just cannot be faked. Even weight gain doesn't explain her post partum appearance. So for me, Arch is a real child, conceived by Harry Windsor and Meghan Markle and delivered by Meghan Markle. Any other crazy theories just plays into her hands. She intends to use that child to make the world wonder about him, and to cash in.
Bennie said…
Ohhhhhh she's was definitely merching @Maneki Neko... The pants, hat, shoes & bracelet are already on Meghan's Mirror! Every time she's in front of the camera or out in public she's merching everything she wear! Sometimes it's posted on Meghan's Mirror within minutes of doing interviews! She's disgusting & I can't wait for Karma to bite her in her a$$!!!

Everyone have a nice evening & stay safe!!!

@charade... Thank you for monitoring & especially all your time!!! It's greatly appreciated!!! :-)

"God Save The Queen"
Unknown said…
Hey @Christine :)

First thing, I want to say I respect your opinion about Archie being real and that Rache carried him. I actually wish what you believe is true because my pillow stance makes me highly disappointed in the BRF.

I am willing to consider your POV but so far no one in your camp has been able to explain to me how Rache was able to bend down past the 4-5 month mark with *closed knees.* Open knees absolutely. Closed knees is physically impossible. What are your thoughts? I look forward to your ideas and explanation.
KCM1212 said…
@Magatha
Germaine Greer did say Megs would bolt.
Her new book “The Hemale Eunuch” will have a foreword from Harry.

You just crack me up, kid

Here is some nice press on how the Cambridges actually follow up on their promises. A palate cleanser after the Sussex Circus
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1328155/kate-middleton-news-prince-william-duchess-of-cambridge-picture-works-royal-news
KCM1212 said…
@Fairy


The Duchess of Sussex was upset about the speculation regarding her use of the real hair for her extensions and wigs. The Duchess considers her extensions as organic continuation of herself that was designed to be a subtle feminist homage to the 18th century use of wigs in sophisticated societies. She is especially pleased to be able to celebrate the historic use of wigs and elaborate hair arrangements by both men in women of bygone era, which she considers a sing of the true gender equality.
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Would I be correct in thinking there is an homage to the much-beloved Monarch in there as well?

"It is well known the Queen is a fine horsewoman and patron of Ascot. Meg has incorporated the manes and tails of several of her favorite mounts, now sadly deceased. In a nod to her spiritual mentor (and very best friend), the Dalai Lama, the Duchess has also used Yak hair accents wherever possible.

The hairpeices, while elegantly "en mode" have another benefit: The Duchess, an avid animal lover, has discovered when wearing the wigs, packs of wild dogs (and a few cats!) follow her ceaselessly when she is in the open. So persistent are their attentions, Meghan has had to resort to calling the Los Angeles police department, and is considering filing a number of lawsuits to discourage the animals.

Her favorite piece: "La Morticia" is available from Fredericks of Hollywood and your local 4H/Feed Supply Store, or wherever tasteless cr*p is sold.
Christine said…
Hello Charade!

I have heard all of those questions, but it just doesn't mean to me that she wasn't pregnant. It's too much of a stretch to me to say that she couldn't bend down with closed knees so she was not pregnant. It appeared to me that Meghan started to really show more much later in her pregnancy. I was pretty fit in my first pregnancy. I remember I lived with my brother in an apartment and then he was gone for awhile and then was coming to move out of our place and I was around 7-8 months pregnant. When he saw me after not seeing me for months, he was floored, he said I was huge. I don't know, I really don't have explanations for all of Meghan's pregnancy quirks but I believe she was, in fact, pregnant.
Unknown said…
Thanks for responding @Christine :) I really appreciate that.

I believe Archie is real, not definite on parentage, but I am firmly in Team-Pillow. Through my job, I've witnessed serious mind-boggling fraud so I can believe Rache is capable of faking her pregnancy and have other parties cover it up with tons of room for plausible deniability.

I am glad the BRF has a lot of distance from Rache but I think there should be more. It'll be interesting to see how Archie factors for the BRF as he gets older. I think the signage is clear, Archie will not be getting any titles if and when Charles ascends the throne. Time will tell. Who knows though? The Sussex drama is way crazier than any scripted soap-opera and I'm here for it. Glad you are too ;)
Christine said…
You guys all have a wonderful weekend. Will check back later for your always entertaining insights!

Thanks Charade!
Bennie said…
Here's a trip down memory lane for MeGain's moon bumps!!! I carried four babies to term (38-40 weeks) & I'm definitely Team Pillow! There's just no way IMO that can explain all that I saw while she was pregnant! However I do respect everyone's opinions! :-)

https://mmbelly.tumblr.com
Miggy said…
Meghan Markle's mother Doria Ragland starts a new job as a teacher showing students how to make hippy jewellery.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8675195/Meghan-Markles-mother-starts-new-job-teacher-showing-students-make-hippy-jewellery.html
499lake said…
Rather than hurt or harm, I would ask what Rachel has to add besides word salad and just enough time for a photo opp?

Does she donate a large amount over $50K to Emily's List?
Does she donate a large amount to the CA Democratic Party?
Does she donate an even larger amount to the DNC, the Democratic National Committee?

Of course, she doesn't. She doesn't realize that word salad doesn't count, not one penny. Nor do her staged appearances as a woke individual? She is not even a proverbial two-bit player IMO.
lizzie said…
The DM story about Doria (thanks @Miggy for the link) says the CC blurb says:

"She has participated in some of the finest art shows in the country and has received awards for her designs. She loves teaching and believes in wearing handmade jewellery.'

BS. The blurb may say that but it's not true. No way her participation in "some of the finest art shows in the country" wouldn't have been known before now. Is Doria delusional too?
A breakdown of what at B grade actress earns amd spends in different series she has been in. And I had actually heard of these ones.

Australian actress Adelaide Kane claims she's not in 'crippling debt' but has a MORTGAGE - after revealing how she blew most of her $5million earnings on massive costs

The cost of being Adelaide Kane
-10 per cent of earnings to agent

-10 per cent of earnings to manager

-5 per cent of earnings to lawyer

-5 per cent of earnings to business manager

-30 per cent of earnings paid in taxes

-$2,000 to $3,000 a month for a publicist

-$2,000 a month for a social media team

-$700 to $1,500 per outfit for a stylist

-$1,000 for professional hair and makeup for events


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8669095/Australian-actress-Adelaide-Kane-claims-shes-not-crippling-debt-MORTGAGE.html
JHanoi said…
hikari -

if according to the constition, PH place of resisdence must be in the UK, then does the same go for Archie? doe he ‘lose his place’ if his official resisndence isn’t in the UK? i wonder if he is also listed as Frogmore as his official resisdence.
SwampWoman said…
lizzie said...
The DM story about Doria (thanks @Miggy for the link) says the CC blurb says:

"She has participated in some of the finest art shows in the country and has received awards for her designs. She loves teaching and believes in wearing handmade jewellery.'

BS. The blurb may say that but it's not true. No way her participation in "some of the finest art shows in the country" wouldn't have been known before now. Is Doria delusional too?


Oh, is THAT what Etsy is called now?

I do note that the article has carefully avoided listing any of the finest art shows in the country or signature pieces.

What the article DOES say is that she may have taught adult education classes (which are currently suspended) for 29 to 33 GBPs or $38 to $44. That's about the price of a class at a local makery. By "hippie" jewelry, I'm assuming Boho or gypsy jewelry, although it could be wire-wrapped jewelry.

We used to have a great community college where adults could take fun courses for hobbies such as photography, pottery making, decorative painting techniques, upholstery, jewelry making, that sort of thing for fun in the evening and on weekends. (And those courses often developed into small businesses.) Then 2-year community college became a 4-year university, developed a giant stick up its backside, and all such courses were cancelled unless the University could charge large fees for it because course was mandated for a degree. Pity.
SwampWoman said…

Blogger JHanoi said...
hikari -

if according to the constitution, PH place of residence must be in the UK, then does the same go for Archie? doe he ‘lose his place’ if his official residence isn’t in the UK? i wonder if he is also listed as Frogmore as his official residence.


Hunh. Excellent question, JHanoi. Maybe that is why there was such emphasis on having their own place in the UK, not because of official duties, which is what I thought, but because of being an heir.

I'm not exactly sure that anybody actually wants him there to keep his claim alive, though.
lizzie said…
@SwampWoman wrote:

"We used to have a great community college where adults could take fun courses for hobbies..."

We still have those kinds of courses at the NC CC near me (along with college transfer courses and diploma programs.) Like in LA, I doubt any hobby courses are meeting now though.

But yeah, not even one photo of her "art." And I'm pretty sure the "finest art shows in the country" (juried?) don't keep the identities of their participants secret. Plus, have we ever seen Doria wearing any jewelry that she possibly might have created? (The article says she teaches making floating pearl necklaces, multi-strand bracelets and necklaces made of wire.)
SwampWoman said…
I think that the "puffery" surrounding Doria's classes is from her daughter. Boho and wire jewelry should be fun to wear and to make. Showing pieces at the finest art shows in the country are definitely not required to either make the jewelry or to teach classes.

emeraldcity said…
I haven't bothered to watch the Gloria interview but the thought occurred to me that with so many talk show hosts going down the gurgler (Ellen, Oprah, Wendy) the whole thing might have been planned as an audition tape for a prospective interview/chat show. She's desperately trying anything to make some money, convinced herself and Harry is pure gold but every one knows it's just a sack of sand she's peddling .
SwampWoman said…
Lizzie, that sounded more like beading to me than Boho or wire (I'm unsure about the necklace description. It could be completely wire, it could be wire-wrapped semi-precious stones or it could be copper or silver wire bent into shapes and pounded flat. It could be something completely different because the description is perhaps purposely vague.)

What troubles me is that I just get the feeling that MM does not think her mother is important enough to be her mother and so is attempting to remake her.
SwampWoman said…
emeraldcity said...
I haven't bothered to watch the Gloria interview but the thought occurred to me that with so many talk show hosts going down the gurgler (Ellen, Oprah, Wendy) the whole thing might have been planned as an audition tape for a prospective interview/chat show. She's desperately trying anything to make some money, convinced herself and Harry is pure gold but every one knows it's just a sack of sand she's peddling.


I think that the secret to being a good talk show host is to appear to be genuinely interested in the other person (whether you are or not) and to be able to draw them out and have an interesting conversation. I'm sorry; I just don't think that she's a good enough actor to pretend interest or to let the other person shine.
CatEyes said…
Doria having won awards at finest Art Shows is wildly suspect to me, as surely one of us would be able to find evidence of her awards. Back in the early 90's I took a few art classes like that and one was taught by a pretty well known mosaic artist in the Santa Barbara area but you could find her name on the internet. Then recently Hobby Lobby in small town near me was offering a low cost painting class by a famous artist who used to have a TV show series. Again he won awards and you can find him on the internet.

Even the small city up the road has an art club and they have juried shows and publish the winners in the local newspaper, and thus can find the results on the internet.

I smell a Markle lie.
Enbrethiliel said…
@SwampWoman
What troubles me is that I just get the feeling that MM does not think her mother is important enough to be her mother and so is attempting to remake her.

Thomas Markle won two Emmys, has many other nominations, and even worked on the live Oscars telecast once -- and he wasn't important enough to be Meghan's father.

She was probably exactly like this in high school when the topic of her parents came up.
HappyDays said…
Miggy said…
There's a new HARRYMARKLE.

Gloria and the Grifter.

@Miggy: Thanks for the heads-up on the nee Harry Markle. I just finished reading it. It is an exceptional post. I agree with the column thinking that the interview is an audition tape for Meghan. I think she needs video of this sort for their pitch to bring The Tig to television. It could also be used if Ellen ends up being forced out of her show. Meg’s problem in the Hloria interview is that she is incredibly fake and overacted throughout it.

I remember reading when she and Harry were still in the UK attending events that she is terrible at making small talk with people. Mostly because she is never truly interested in anyone else if they can’t be useful to her.

She is a textbook narcissist whose on screen talent is very limited. It’s a wonder she scored the secondary cast role in Suits.
Enbrethiliel said…
I think what stumps Team Pillow is Meghan's weight gain and post-partum weight retention. I'll also never forget Scorpiotwentythree's comment on Harry's interview right after the birth: "That's the smile of a man whose swimmers made it."

Personally, I think it's obvious she used a fake belly. Whether she was genuinely pregnant and just making herself look bigger is still a mystery to me.
SwampWoman said…
"Art shows" covers a lot of ground. We are assuming that they are talking about jewelry, but the article mentions that she has been designing jewelry and clothing for over 10 years, however long a period of time that may be. Under 11 years, I suppose. Perhaps we're watching the sleight of hand of the magician again, look this way, pay no attention to where the other hand is going.
emeraldcity said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...

Suppose the child `Archie' had been born in US, and kept there...

That would have significant advantages for her, even if she'd rejected him!

I don't think we've considered this possibility yet...

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I take it you mean born to someone else and not Meghan, if that was the case she could never use that as leverage as it would confirm Archie was not 'born of the body' (i.e. the lawfully wedded wife of the Prince/Heir/Duke did not give birth to the child herself). Not only would it confirm her and Harry as liars and fraudsters but also means Archie has no claim to either the Prince of GB name, the Dukedom and lesser Dumbarton/Killeen titles, DNA wise he could very well be the child of both Harry and Megs and would still be regarded as the Queen's great grandchild, but he would legally be out of the line of succession and unable to inherit Harry's titles.

If you mean she might have given birth in the US on one of her trips, very unlikely as the birth certificate has the name of a UK doctor and hospital on it ....the doctor would be struck off and the hospital heavily fined possibly even have it's licence removed if they had conspired to commit fraud on the crown and nation by signing off on the birth certificate if Archie if he was not born at the hospital as stated. They simply would not chance it for a two bit actress no matter who she was married to.

SwampWoman said…
This is my last comment, and I promise that I shall head to bed and not babble on before morning.

The royal family appears to be extremely artistic. Prince Philip is a talented painter. Both Prince Charles and damnit, I'm going to call her princess, Princess Camilla are reportedly talented painters. The Duchess of Cambridge is a *very* talented photographer. Acting and singing are also considered to be art forms.

Could she be competing with the RF as to who is the most artistic in the land?

Well, I'm probably too sleep deprived to think clearly. I expect that this whole subject will be well hashed out with excellent conclusions in the morning.
Enbrethiliel said…
@FairyCrocodile and @KCM1212

Your "press releases" are fun, too! Boy, what I wouldn't give to join her publicist's team and be the Nutties' mole in Montecito right now!

Since the fake belly has come up again, how about this:

"The Duchess of Sussex had long felt incredible pity for her sister-in-law Kate Middleton, who was forced by courtiers to appear in public for photos so soon after giving birth. Initially, the Duchess restricted her compassionate comments to her staff, who found her feminist outlook a breath of fresh air. When the Duchess learned she herself was expecting a baby, she realized it would be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to engage in performance activism by strapping a vegan Moonbump over her own 100% authentic baby bump. She had hoped that the media obsession over women's wombs would be ridiculous enough to speak for itself, but now more clearly understands her obligation to educate the public further. The Duchess will be joined by her husband for another backyard chat in which they discuss this issue."
Here's Doria's class schedule. She has no classes scheduled right now, and those that she did teach are priced between $39 and $45 for a one-day class. Hardly a master craftsperson. They teach some of these bracelet-making classes in summer camp for kids, and knotting is hardly a big deal.

So who is going to take care of Archie now?

https://coursehorse.com/los-angeles/classes?teacher=doria-ragland


















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Harry Markle seems to have eliminated comments from her blog. Anyone know about this?
@Swampwoman,

Doria's been DESIGNING jewelry and clothing...". That doesn't say that she's been making and selling them for over 10 years.

I know some people who've given these almost-free art or writing classes, and they write their own blurbs for their classes and their "CV". They can write anything they want, and nobody at the school checks them for accuracy.

Why havent we seen MM wear at least one of Doria's "special" pieces?
Enbrethiliel said…
@WBBM
I was fascinated about Yoko Ono's modus operandi- has she ever been considered a narcissist?

It's likely. She wasn't faithful to John (and probably encouraged his own affair with May Peng to conceal her own). She spent the night of his death with her boyfriend Sam Havadtoy; soon after that, he also moved into the home she had shared with John and started wearing John's clothes.

That neither of them could see the insensitivity and inappropriateness of that blows my mind.

If Meghan follows this path (ideally after a living Harry manages to escape her), then she may not go for a Saudi billionaire or the like for her third/fourth husband. She may prefer someone more moldable, who will let her have her way even more than Harry has, and who won't mind wearing grey shirts all the time.
@Emerald City: ` I take it you mean born to someone else and not Meghan’,
Yes, that’s exactly what I meant-

I posted this at 2.56pm on the 26th August:

Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
A hypothesis about Archie, triggered by this assertion in DM, earlier this morning:

"………, United States, 1 month ago

Farchie doesn't live with them. Never has. in Canada he lived with the nanny in another house down the street from their palatial water-front loaner. he was never at Frogmore (zero sightings of anyone pushing a pram anywhere in Windsor ever - Kate often seen walking with a pram in Kensington / Hyde Park). and is living in Malibu again with the nanny, not in TPs house. Ghosted the child right after birth, ergo the issue with the night nurse and various other nannies quitting. it is actually quite horrifying "


I’ve no idea of the veracity of this report but how about this speculation?

Supposing, there is a child, born of their gametes but not of her body much earlier than his stated DoB.


And so on…

It was a point by point version of my thinking but it got lost among the comments about her attempts to be politically relevant.

It’s a hypothesis so I’m glad to have anything queried so we can thrash it out.

For me, it was the way she folded up like jack knife on one of her Mayhew visits that got me. She seemed to deflate completely, knees to bosom almost, then re-inflate just as easily as she stood up. It was reported in the Daily Mail on 16th Jan 2019 ( the video was overwhelmed by adverts so I couldn’t watch it again). They state she’s 6 months pregnant. Based on the `16-week’ estimate?

Had she genuinely been pregnant, delivering in May, how far gone would she have been? How small might the bump have been to let her still flex like that? Even with the exaggeration of a moonbump?

A genuine bump is composed of tissue and fluid – neither of which is compressible. Only gases (eg air) can be pressed into a smaller volume. I don’t know much about moon bumps but I expect they’re designed with inlet and out valves to suck in, or push out, air as required.

To me, she looks six months pregnant and that could tie in with a May EDD – but a genuine bulge, I think, would’ve prevented her keeping her knees together. If her EDD was earlier, as we expected, she’d have been even bigger.

Admittedly, I’ve never been pregnant so would like other Nutties to speak from their experience.

That convinced me of it being surrogacy. Also, the Pacific tour took her into areas of Zika virus risk and nobody batted an eyelid.

I totally agree that having H’s child was the most important thing to her. Or did she think she could get away with `being seen to have it’?

Would she have taken the risk of childbirth herself, given that she’s so important?

Another thought about the American idea – I doubt if any British woman would have been good enough for her. Also, the chances of successful concealment would have been so much better in the US, and the child would be on her home ground, in case of a custody battle, although there have been rumours of that already.
@Enbrethiliel
Thanks for the info on Y-O , I had no idea her behaviour was so gross. Totally self centred. I also agree that any subsequent candidates for the post of Mr Markle would not have to display any signs of mental toughness.

I wonder if she herself could be taken in by another narcissist who, having married her as a meek, pliant sort of chap, then pulled a switcheroo on her? Nice thought!

Also @Puds & @KCM 1212 as well – I do like your `press releases’. There’s a lot of mileage in that form.
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman

(About MM using her chat with G Steinem as an audition show):

I just don't think that she's a good enough actor to pretend interest or to let the other person shine.
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Never mind letting the other person shine, she wouldn't let them speak. The show would just be a MeMe show.
Oi Vay! Have you seen this pack of lies at

https://duchessofinfluence.com/2020/08/23/why-harry-and-meghan-chose-freedom-over-job-security/

.Part 1
WHY HARRY AND MEGHAN CHOSE FREEDOM OVER JOB SECURITY
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Members of the royal family are competing over coverage in the papers. The competition leads to information security leaks. No other royal court in Europe; Middle East; Africa or Asia has such a competitive and toxic environment as the House of Windsor. The competition leads to information security leaks. The currency is popularity. For the Duke and Duchess of Sussex their royal work focused on supporting the monarch and making a positive impact.

Kensington palace leaked confidential information, compromising Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan’s security and human rights to privacy. It wasn’t just a tabloid story it was a failure in leadership. The toil on Meghan and Meghan’s mental health was damaging. Meghan and Harry were surviving in the palace, they left so they could thrive.

If you have ever worked in an organization where you were not a good fit. Your manager blames you for everything. One day its not following this rule or excluding you from important meetings. Gossiping with the other workers about your doctor appointments or information you have shared in confidence. This boss like Prince William belittles your ideas in public then adopts them and passing them as their own. That is not a good boss and that is a negative environment.

Case in point “Shout” the mental health text line between Sussexes and Cambridges. This mental health line was modeled after an American org Crisis Text Line, which was launched in August 2013. The text line was introduced by Meghan, yet William tried to pass it as his own. The Royal Foundation was on the mental health initiative for years, yet the text line was implemented only after Meghan joined. To this day the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have never acknowledged that Meghan Markle was the brains behind this initiative. Prince Harry’s HeadFit initiative; which he had been working on for 3 years was stolen by Prince William who is trying to patent the name HeadFit.

Prince Henry and Princess Meghan stepped away from their roles as senior royals. To most people why would anyone leave the job of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom? This is a glamorous job of tiaras and castles and horse drawn carriages. Every girl’s dream we are told. People have left their ‘good jobs’ with great pay and benefits for the uncertain but highly rewarding world of entrepreneurship can relate. People always question why entrepreneurs choose freedom and financial independence over job security.

Where you are born in this family dictates your position of power, and because of that, Harry has always come second to his brother, especially when it comes to funding,” There were times in the past that Harry wanted to take on bigger projects and do more work, but he couldn’t get the money to support it. William was always the priority. A lot of their quarrels have been over budgets.

Princess Meghan a self-made millionaire and entrepreneur in her own right knows about grit and taking risks. She has taken risks forging into the competitive world of Hollywood and business. This has paid dividends. She has built her own new media enterprise through her lifestyle brand The TIG. It had close to 5 million followers on 3 social media platforms. On Instagram alone she had 3 million followers in her own right.

Meghan Markle’s lifestyle brand opened the door to her work with United Nations. As UN Ambassador bringing her into the orbit of the world’s most powerful thought leaders this is real world influence. This is not puff propaganda piece cooked up in British tabloids to elevate ribbon cutting as duty this was high impact work.
Part 2

Prince Harry on the other hand always had big and innovative ideas. One of his ideas included cutting out the press and using social media to talk directly to royal audience. Prince Harry wanted Commonwealth voices represented but the answer from courtiers was a resounding no. The Queen is head of state in Jamaica, Bahamas and several other countries and their voices are not deemed worthy.

His ideas were always dismissed in favor of the tabloid untrustworthy royal rota. Now that the there is a global pandemic the royals have adopted Prince Harry’s ideas to talk directly to the Commonwealth.

If you want to do that, you can pay for your own engagements. And so that was the first seed of, well, maybe we will break away, maybe we will do our own thing.

Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan’s earning potential while being in the royal family was limited. They could not make money as senior royals. They had to wait for a handout from their father Prince Charles. Regardless of how much their father loved them he couldn’t fund their projects based on return on investment or impact. This is because of the rules and protocols. Imagine being in a situation where the sole criteria to whether your project is approved is your birth position in the hierarchy. This is disheartening, your success is limited.

It does not matter how good you are on the job HR policy says you cannot make more money than your boss. Unless you are in sales or investment banking then that is a different story. This is the story of every worker.

What every intrapreneur and entrepreneur has learned is that the decision to step away is not always welcomed. When you finally decide to leave your job, you would think that your unsupportive boss who be happy but no they are not.

It has been reported that Prince William was angry at The Duke and Duchess of Sussex from walking away from toxic palace. Prince William was not angry with the breach of information security from his organization. This is textbook weak leadership. After all it was his organization that leaked Sussex future plans. Dan Wootton bragged about being in possession of highly classified palace documents which contained Sussex plans. Who wants to work in a toxic environment like that?

Today Duchess Meghan and Prince Harry are in control of their own destiny. Their earning potential is infinite and their impact on community is boundless.

Meghan and Harry Freedom Suits them!!!


In her own words, I take it?

https://duchessofinfluence.com/2020/08/23/why-harry-and-meghan-chose-freedom-over-job-security/
So Megsy now wants to cash in on Archie? What does Harry say to that, where’s the we want privacy bringing up Archie fall in with that now?! SMH

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Christine said, Leading me to another topic that I can tell I am in the minority about here. Please don't drive me away with torches cause I love all you guys BUT Speaking about Archie... the kid is real. She became pregnant with him and carried him HERSELF....

You are not alone with the notion of Megsy giving birth and believing Archie is real. I believe it too, but and it’s a big but....the squatting down she did was a bit of magic act IMO. I find it so unbelievable she was able to manage it. Lol So I do have questions that I can’t answer. ;o)
Sandie said…
It seems the Sussexes planned to go commercial a long time ago ...

MWX Trading Limited
Note that the nature of business is given as 'other business support service activities not elsewhere classified'.

22 August 2019
Incorporation of MWX Trading Limited as a private company limited by shares. (address given as 7 Savoy Court, London)
Natalie Campbell is listed as director and her address is given as KP.
Shares listed as 1GPB.
Shareholder is listed as Sussex Royal Foundation.
No registerable person with significant control (PSC).
Same day a statement withdrawing the statement about there being no PSC.

23 August 2019
Gerard Tyrrell agrees to act as secretary (that is how it is worded - agrees to not appointed!).

27 August 2019
Notice that Sussex Royal Foundation is a Relevant Legal Entity and holds 75% or more shares in the company and 75% or more of the voting rights.

11 March 2020
Natalie Campbell resigns as director.
James Holt is appointed as director.

And that is all there is for this strange MWX Trading Limited. It comes across as shady considering they were full-time, fully funded working royals at the time.
More hemail film loops on twitter.com/yankeewally2

On https://yankeewally.tumblr.com/
- a wicked photo from the wedding, posted by J Mulroney!

lAlso she reposts from Plant, that the Steinem `interview’ location has been ID’d:

“Hey Plant, think the location has been found. Someone posted that this looks like the Santa Barbara Stables
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8pCVmNFChS/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=DB77F643-D892-4348-A242-9CBF4FA10ADF
On this IG post you can actually see the cottage, the awning and the tree of to the right of the rider. What do you think?
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Thanks! LMAO at the fact that it was a rented location shoot and she wanted to pretend it was “her” backyard and her dogs just “crashed” the filming.
Source: anonymoushouseplantfan “
Yankee Wally also led to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGhi3QOfeqo

Princess Tiffany's take on how MM started a race war.
lizzie said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis wrote:

"I know some people who've given these almost-free art or writing classes, and they write their own blurbs for their classes and their "CV". They can write anything they want, and nobody at the school checks them for accuracy."

@CatEyes wrote:

"Doria having won awards at finest Art Shows is wildly suspect to me, as surely one of us would be able to find evidence of her awards."

I agree with you both. I've never taught that sort of class but I have given professional workshops for CEU credit and have written a couple of book chapters. And in those cases, the presenter/author does write his/her own blurb. In those cases though, the licensure board would have taken a very dim view of anyone using fake credentials! But maybe hobby classes are different. Still, if Doria ever does teach a class, won't students ask?

And as @SwampWoman points out, "art shows" may cover alot of ground. Still, I'd think there would be some internet evidence of her artistic accomplishments unless all that got scrubbed too when H&M started dating. :-) I'd also expect M to have mentioned those accomplishments on the rare occasions she actually mentioned Doria in print. (Mostly she mentioned how wonderful Thomas was.) But never, so far as I know, did she ever say Doria had won awards or even that she designed jewelry.

Wikipedia doesn't mention it either despite being pretty glowing at times. Also, it now says she earned her MSW in 2011. That makes no sense if supposedly M paid for her to go to school from Suits money. It also say she became licensed in 2015 and we know (based on the licensure board public database) that's not true. In 2015 she became certified as an ASW. That's not a license. It's a precusor to the LCSW which she's never gotten. Now we're supposed to believe she earned the MSW, then spent years making jewelry and competing in art shows before returning to SW for 3 years 2015-2018? Right.
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Agree the backyard looks like a stable. A pic on Harry Markle shows a "pasture" and white split-rail type fencing to the left of Meghan. No way that's on their Montecito property.
JHanoi said…
Archie official resisdence

My other thought on that is if Archie’s official resisidence has to be in the UK to stay in line for Succession, then should the Harkles ever divorce and there is a custody battle, would that make JCMH an advantage in a custody battle? or would that giv PH and the Sovereign an advantage in a custody battle? His real residence is supposedly California and California courts would be deciding it. Maybe MM wouldn’t fight for custody becuase she’d rather take the chance to be a mother of a future soverign should anything ever happen to all the peopl ahead of Archie.
Maybe someday Mr. Privacy will ’wake up’ and realize his beloved wife has been spilling the tea, setting up pap walks, and giving the hated media all these stories about them. Or maybe he’s complicit in that too.

I’ve never heard that line of succession rule before and couldn’t find it when i did a very quick google search.




OT Angie and Brad

They’re fighting again about custody.
I think ANGIE dropped the story to th media about Brads visit to France with the young girlfriend. She’s looking for an upper hand again in the custody AND it’s a negative publicity story for Brad.
Brad’s sleeping with a 27 yr married model who ahs an ‘open’ marriage with a 57 yr man. They flew privately to Brad and Angie’s French wine etate, Mirival. I also thought theree were Covid restritions and the EU had banned US citizens or people from the US from enetering due to high infection.

Angie is a dirty player, vindictive (I don’t know that MM is vindictive, she prefers to Ghost people), and wants Brads industry and public popularity to drop and hers to increase. i think it irks Angie that their peers love him and dislike her.
JHanoi said…
MM pregnant or not

i also think MM carried Archie, same reasons as those above. i think modern medicine could have helped some too.

in reference to the closed knee squat in 5 inch heels.

It was her first baby, she is very yoga fit, so she was barely showing, but she wanted to announce at a big event, PE wedding, and publicly rub her tummy for emphasis, i think she wanted to copy Beyonce’s annoucment of her kids, subtly and keep the world talking & guessing.

hence her need for the extra padding which resulted in the changing sizes and swaying when walking. and once she started with padding, she almost couldnt stop.

i’ve known slim first time mommy /women who don’t show until their 7,8 9 month. the squat while unusual for most could be managed.
a 4/5 month old size is still rather small.
none said…
@WBBM

Appreciate the link about the Harkles starting a race war. The video backs up my theory this whole Royal thing was by design to give Markle a U.S. platform. The race card is most valuable when played in the U.S.

Markle and her backers'(Oprah) goal is political. Should she start to achieve success, my prediction is she and Harry will divorce, freeing her of her royalness to pursue her true calling of woke politics. More publicity for her, lots of emotive stories about her struggles.

The groundwork is being laid now with low-level projects (Gloria) to see how things go. She is so unlikeable with zero charisma, the clawing claws, endless flowing word salad, just nothing going for her except being bi-racial. Never mind that up until now she identified as Caucasian. Will be interesting to see how far she gets.
none said…
@Golden Retriever

Harry Markle commenters are asked to do so on the Harry Markle Facebook site.
Fairy Crocodile said…
@ KCM1212

thanks for the laugh, I needed it!

"Her favourite pieces are available at field supply stores or wherever the tasteless cr@p is sold".

You people here would make a far better PR team for her than SS. You have a sense of humor at least.

Her problem is she is too insecure and takes herself too seriously.
SwampWoman said…

I agree with you both. I've never taught that sort of class but I have given professional workshops for CEU credit and have written a couple of book chapters. And in those cases, the presenter/author does write his/her own blurb. In those cases though, the licensure board would have taken a very dim view of anyone using fake credentials! But maybe hobby classes are different. Still, if Doria ever does teach a class, won't students ask?


I think it comes down to whether the instructor is able to articulate the process. Sometimes a person is very, very good at what they do. If she has completely internalized the process to the point of it being automatic, she would not necessarily be able to teach beginning steps. If taking a beginning painter class, I'd have wanted Bob Ross with his happy little accidents as the instructor, not Vincent van Gogh who would have probably removed his other ear and perhaps an eyeball under the stress of having to deal with me as a student.

I don't think that it takes juried art shows to make a good teacher. Doria is probably quite competent or she would get bad word of mouth and no repeat classes. If it is fun, entertaining, and a few new skills are learned, that is all that counts.

But, no, as a person that has taught a few classes sometimes because of being forced into it when the demo person ditched at the last minute, the students don't usually ask for credentials or proof, particularly when the person giving the class or presentation has a rather wild look in her eye and is muttering "I swear to God, his excuse for not showing better be death or I will kill him myself. Oh, GOOD MORNING! My name is Swampie and I shall be your instructor today!"
Raspberry Ruffle and Christine, my further difficulty is that I can’t think of any hard and fast evidence, the sort that sort that’d stand up in court, that she did give birth on or about 6th May 2019.

The birth certificate: the lack of a stamp in the bottom RH corner says, to me, that things are not as we have been told, whatever else the story might be.

No sign of movement from or back to Froggy Towers.

No doctors signing it off.

Unusual form of statement from Buck House.

Even if we accept the idea that H had the face of a man whose `swimmers’ did the job, that’s inconclusive as to whether the babe was, or was not, carried by MM.

The only time she looked to me as if she might have been pregnant was when she waddled away from the camera in Windsor Castle when they were interviewed for TV with a heavily-shrouded Archie/doll. She walked as if she had a large number of stitches down below, I hadn't seen her waddling at any other time.

If anyone finds anything that definitely supports her actually being pregnant, please let us know.

Of course, absence of proof is not conclusive. I’m just applying Occam’s Razor to find the simplest narrative which might fit the most weirdnesses we’ve seen.

Perhaps Archie is like Schodinger’s Cat – simultaneously alive and not alive?

My reading of her `procreation smirk ‘ was instantaneous, like the way I immediately said `He’s lying!’ in the Clinton interview re Monica. In this case though, my first thought `She’s pregnant!’ almost as quickly became `She’s up to something!’ – there was something unpleasant about her expression, Duper’s Delight?
Hikari said…
JHanoi,

Re. Archie's residency

It appears that Harry currently occupies the last spot (#6) in the succession in which this matters. He holds the last spot as Counselor of State, to which he and William were appointed at 21 years of age. This wouldn't affect Archie until he both moves up a spot and reaches his majority. Prince Phillip is on the council; at his death there will be an opening, which would have to go to Beatrice as she is next closest who is over 21. I believe her father still retains his spot, by birthright. PP as spouse of the monarch serves; Camilla would be eligible to serve, I suppose, eventually, as will Catherine, but who knows. Harry is an unprecedented case of a Counselor who has very publicly bolted from the very site of the Counselor's duty, but this was the issue with retaining Frogmore Cott as their English home on paper. As undeserving as he is behaving at present, he is an heir for life, and unlike say, Captain General Royal Marines, would be hard to take away from him unless he willingly steps down and gets approval from Parliament.

I think . . I'm an American, so what do I really know? The council is largely ceremonial in nature . . I think they might meet once a year, if that, and I'm not sure what they do. But it is a duty that goes along with Harry's position--the same one he's taking a public dump on. He could jet in and attend the very sporadic council meetings. They might relegate him to the corner of the room. If he has to go, I hope they put his chair front and center. Let's put him between Pa and William. That will be real comfortable.
HappyDays said…
@lizzie: I highly doubt Meghan paid for Doria’s MSW or even part of it. She obtained her degree in 2011, which is the year Meghan got the Suits role. My guess is Doria might have received some sort of scholarship aimed at older minority women.

As long as the topic of college is being discussed, I’m also guessing that one of the reasons Meghan went to Northwestern is the likelihood Northwestern gave her a hefty minority scholarship which was helpful to Thomas and the money he had already spent on 12 years of private education at upscale schools for little Meghan.

At that time in her life, college applications were probably the only place where she checked the box marked Black or African-American for every university application. Besides making her eligible for financial assistance only available to minorities, it likely gave her an advantage in the admissions screening process. We already know that Meghan has a very fluid concept of her own racial identity, changing it as needed fir whatever cause or other purpose that suits her needs at the moment.

Once she arrived on campus at Northwestern, she pledged Kappa Kappa Gamma, a sorority that has a national reputation of being one of the whitest, most elitist sororities on any college or university campus where it has a chapter. It attracts the girls we all knew in high school who were the snobby kids who thought they were better than everyone else. Northwestern had black sororities at the time Meghan attended there, but I doubt she gave any of them a moment of genuine consideration.
HappyDays said…
499lake said...
Rather than hurt or harm, I would ask what Rachel has to add besides word salad and just enough time for a photo opp?

Does she donate a large amount over $50K to Emily's List?
Does she donate a large amount to the CA Democratic Party?
Does she donate an even larger amount to the DNC, the Democratic National Committee?

@499lake: I highly doubt Meghan donates money to any charities. If she did, we’d certainly have already heard about it via a press release or a story in the media that “a source close to”’or “a close friend of Meghan says.” She would only stroke a check if she could get some image mileage out of it for herself.

Maybe she gives freely to her church. Naaaaaah! What was I thinking!! At this point, when she sets foot in a church, the odor of sulfur must surely follow her.
OKay said…
Golden Retriever said...
Harry Markle seems to have eliminated comments from her blog. Anyone know about this?
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I've never seen comments enabled over there. I don't think that's a new thing.
Hikari said…
@Christine

Re. Archie (in several parts)

Christine,







Re. Markle's maternity







I echo charade in saying that if Archie is not a real baby of Harry's, delivered by Meg, then the BRF has colluded in a pretty huge fraud, and I'd be completely disillusioned with them. The only reason a Fauxchie would be a larger fraud was if he were in a position to become King. Harry is now too irrelevant to the succession for his son to matter that much. Which makes Meg's machinations around this pregnancy all the more sad, really. The following constitute my thoughts as I have been worrying them over in my brain these last couple of years, ever since Meg hijacked Eugenie’s wedding with her announcement. I was in the belief early on that Meg had had the good fortune to get pregnant in a window that was remarkable, considering her age, when even 20-year-old Diana had taken a bit longer to conceive. In both cases the little Prince arrived before the first anniversary of his parents. Totally expected with Di; with Meg and Harry, I thought there had to have been some aids to nature at the least, before I went totally Team Pillow. As outlandish as our theory is, I hope you are able to see how Meg’s behavior throughout this saga has made it very challenging to accept her version of events at face value.

.literally rubbing the money child. The games she played with the due date, delivery hospital, the name, everything, it was all done to cause fervor and a worldwide craze over Archie. That is much more believable than the fact that she had to line up a surrogate, wear bumps, hide the surrogate's birth, etc.

I really like that line, 'rubbing the money child'. Didn't she just. Particularly egregious at the British Fashion Awards, when the ‘two-hander’ was used.

I think BlindGossip is 100% correct about Archie.

I don't know of any organic interest in that child, and I believe that is how it should be. It's a child. He's also not a newborn and is a private citizen who cannot yet consent to money-making schemes.

I think if H and M try to drum up interest in Archie it will backfire immensely, especially after all their hand-wringing about his safety and need for privacy. Everyone is going to call them out for using their child for their personal gain, which is going to finish them completely.

Harry, while known, was never a super popular celebrity in the USA. He was just 'known', because of his family, in passing. The demand for Harry cannot even be that high, considering.

So we have one faded Royal, one aging C list actress, and a baby no one cares about (including the UK now). And they expect to merch Archie? Start social media?

My husband said she could play up the 'mommy and me' aspect as 'lifestyle aspiration', but she is detested.

Does anyone else find it strange that we see so much press about how they are trying to make money? That conflicts with the uber rich and famous. Do you think the RF is mortified?
Anonymous said…
@Okay

There is no longer an “Interact” link at her blog that connects you to her Facebook accounts, as there was previously. That’s what confused me. Now, you have to go directly to her FB account. There’s no longer a direct link between her blog and her discussion forum.
Hikari said…
Re. Archie, Pt. 2

If we proceed from the view that Meg really did bear Archie herself, and being fit from all that yoga, didn't show much until late and was capable of stiletto gymnastics even into the 7th month. .it is undeniable that she used a 'Bump Wardrobe' throughout her pregnancy for the purposes of making sure her stomach was the flamboyant center of all eyes at all times. We've got enough pictures and live video (and horrified stares of onlookers---cf. Teresa May) to demonstrate that something other than a normal gestation was happening. People who were up close to her would have received an even better view of Moonbump Mountbatten Windsor. It would fit in with Meg's 'More is always Better' aesthetic. Had she just been natural with her *natural* pregnancy, she could have rocked a series of really cute outfits and competed with Catherine for the adorable pregnancy sweepstakes. There is a video at Mayhew of an audible ‘pop’ when she stands up—just maternal flatulence? How un-Duchesslike.

If we proceed from the view that Meg really did bear Archie herself, and being fit from all that yoga, didn't show much until late and was capable of stiletto gymnastics even into the 7th month. .it is undeniable that she used a 'Bump Wardrobe' throughout her pregnancy for the purposes of making sure her stomach was the flamboyant center of all eyes at all times. We've got enough pictures and live video (and horrified stares of onlookers---cf. Teresa May) to demonstrate that something other than a normal gestation was happening. People who were up close to her would have received an even better view of Moonbump Mountbatten Windsor. It would fit in with Meg's 'More is always Better' aesthetic. Had she just been natural with her *natural* pregnancy, she could have rocked a series of really cute outfits and competed with Catherine for the adorable pregnancy sweepstakes. There is a video at Mayhew of an audible ‘pop’ when she stands up—just maternal flatulence? How un-Duchesslike.


...seeing Meghan post partum for those few appearances proved it to me. Forget her body, her face- she had that post partum face with the enlarged lips and nose. It just cannot be faked. Even weight gain doesn't explain her post partum appearance.


I can think of several reasons, actually. I agree, she looked different when we saw her in May and again in June . . puffy and dazed. Also her post-partum belly in the white dress was on sideways. Her feet were incredibly swollen, I admit. As Nutty pointed out in an early piece, a tightly fitted, belted *white* dress was an incredibly brave choice for a woman who had delivered a baby a day and a half prior. And several other Nutties, one a maternity nurse, I believe, suggested that walking in heels that high would have been excruciating. Catherine wore low heels when debuting her children, and she only had to walk a few steps to the car, not down the length of the gallery at Windsor Castle.







Hikari said…
Archie, Pt. 3


When Meg appeared that May, we had not seen her at all for 7+ weeks. Her facial puffiness and daziness could also be attributed to: plastic surgery, Botox, lip filler injections, medication (pharmaceutical or other), heavy drinking, heavy junk food consumption, even salt tablets to purposely retain water. Meg knew she had to *look pregnant/postpartum* and is it not possible, therefore that she put on a show to that effect because she never actually wanted to *be* pregnant, or couldn't achieve that state on her own? For someone like Meg, addicted to social media, the *image* is as good as the thing itself, if she can get the credit/attention for doing something which she has not, simply by manipulating PR. She got herself on the map and we are here talking about her now because she has literally hired professional image-makers to construct a person--Markle Sparkle--who does not exist. If Meg actually did have a baby herself, that would be the most substantial, real thing she's ever accomplished in her life. Which is why I profoundly suspect the authenticity of her pregnancy, or her motherhood now, because it’s so out of character.

What do you make of Harry's offhand remark that may have let the cat out of the bag, inadvertently, "They change so much in 2 weeks . . ." He backpedaled then, but the bell had been rung. *If* Meghan had given birth 2 weeks prior, why not say that? Wouldn't it have boosted her Narco sense of delight in her control that she could taunt the press that she'd been hoarding her baby for two weeks and kept him private? because they'd been rabbiting on for weeks about how they were not going to show their baby right away after he was born--they were going to 'spend private time as a family, bonding'. Archie would not be made available to be 'served up on a platter' to the press, nor Meg, in her delicate post-partum condition, that cruel custom which Wills and Catherine (and her icon Diana) followed like the sheeple they are . . Not Meg's baby!

Okay, so, fine--enjoy your baby for a week or two and then show him. They were on the carpet at Windsor Castle within 30 hours of his birth, after all that noise.
Hikari said…
Archie, pt. 4

You may say, Archie was indeed born secretly to her two weeks prior, which would jive with the ambulance sighting in Windsor, in front of the apparently empty Frogmore Cottage. If Archie were in fact 2 weeks old at his debut, why then does Meg still look quite so puffy and disheveled, as though she had just gotten up from the birthing bed? Surely the swelling should have receded somewhat by then? Catherine was at Markle's wedding, looking as svelte as ever 3 weeks after giving birth to Louis. It's unfair to compare any other woman to her, but for someone who had retained a completely slender face and body apart from her ever-shifting belly, the post-partum appearance of Meg was pretty remarkable. She didn't look like herself at all.

We are a hothouse in here. *We* are obsessed with Master Archie's origins, but in fact the world outside has completely moved on. The Narkleheads are irrelevant and that goes double for the baby we never see. Meg's strategy has backfired, because 'out of sight is out of mind.' Nobody else really cares to the degree Meg assumes. Her money child is past his sell-by date.

Also, I think the Crown would certainly have intervened more strenuously on the matter of Archie's whereabouts and welfare if he were Harry's legitimate child. Once Charles ascends the throne, which will not be so terribly long from now, he will assume custody of all his heirs, including the Cambridge children and Archie. This was implemented by a previous George to protect his grandchildren from their unfit parents--his wayward son and wife. Sound familiar? While I don't expect it, Charles would be then within his rights to sue Harry and Meg for custody of the child over grave concerns for his welfare. What an international sh*t show would then ensue. Even worse than the current.
Hikari said…
Archie, Pt. 5

Meg has arranged quite an ongoing soap opera for our entertainment that is going to go on for years, if not decades to come. But she's waited too long to play her hand--Archie was a matter of public interest so long as they were part of the Royal family. It's been nearly a year--more than half his lifetime, that the public has seen him in any meaningful way on the SA tour (if that was indeed 'him') Most people have managed to forget that Meg and Harry even have a child. Nobody is going to give her $2 million dollars for a cover shot of Archie. She probably picked that figure because that's what Angie and Brad got for a People cover of Shiloh.

1. Angie and Brad were at the time 'the' top power couple in Hollywood.

2. Shiloh was a stunningly beautiful baby. Genetics. Archie is not so blessed.

3. Her parents shared her picture when she was a newborn, within a few weeks of her birth.

That's when interest would have been peak for Master Archie. Of course, she couldn't

have monetized him then. I give thanks to Covid for the one positive effect it has had

in thwarting Meg's plans to cash in these shores.

The only way Meg could profit that much from Archie is if she appeared on 60 Minutes, or in an hour-long sit down with Oprah and gave a full-length interview, as a family, showing Archie and where he's growing up now. That might be worth $2 mill. Because it would get ratings. So far the only merching she's managed is a grainy shot of a blond baby being pulled by Doria in a 10-year-old novelty stroller, picked up by a German magazine. I call that a fail if this is her plan.
Hikari said…
Archie, Pt.6 (and finis!)

Are you of the opinion that we have ever actually seen the real Archie? Presumably you accept the presentation photos and christening pictures with Royal family members as legitimate and untampered with in any way? What about the later images? There appear to be three, possibly four different babies posing as Archie, including a little girl. If Meg is a real mother who is hiding her real child and instead presenting a series of dolls and/or hired model babies, or friends’ babies as ‘Archie’, her stunts with the moonbumps were small taters. These kids do all seem to share a wonky eye that is a maternal feature, but are otherwise very different in appearance. DuckRabbit Arch, for example, is a beefy blond little guy with a large head. TutuArch (the christening baby) is a more delicate tyke with a pronounced strabismus and a hint of darker hair. No ‘red tufts’ in sight on any of these babies. New Year's baby is a little girl who looks like neither.

I don’t want her to have a baby at all, no matter how he was obtained, because she is worse than Mommie Dearest and will damage him beyond comprehension. If Archie does live with her, I pray daily for him. And if you are right and she is his natural mother and created all this drama to hide the baby she’s got rather than a baby she hasn’t got, she’s even more conniving and unstable than I gave her credit for. She’s certainly proven in spades that the BRF is far weaker and more ineffectual than I gave them credit for, if they are allowing their legitimate grandchild and heir to be held hostage by such a calculating megalomaniac who would do this.
Mel said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said…In this case though, my first thought `She’s pregnant!’ almost as quickly became `She’s up to something!’ – there was something unpleasant about her expression, Duper’s Delight?

Me, too. My instantaneous thought was she's pregnant. My next thought was they have a secret, which is....the surrogate had confirmed a pregnancy.

Whatever the look was about, they knew something between them that others didn't know, something they weren't sharing with others.
Hikari said…
From the Royal website, re. Counsellors of State

In the event that The Queen cannot undertake her official duties as Sovereign on a temporary basis due to illness or absence abroad, two or more Counsellors of State are appointed by Letters Patent to act in Her Majesty's place.

By law, Counsellors of State include the Sovereign's spouse and the next four people in the line of succession who are over the age of 21.

Counsellors of State are authorised to carry out most of the official duties of the Sovereign, for example, attending Privy Council meetings, signing routine documents and receiving the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom. However, there are a number of core constitutional functions that may not be delegated:

Commonwealth matters
The dissolving of Parliament, except on Her Majesty's express instruction
The creation of peers
Appointing a Prime Minister

Aha. So this council is more of a floating body of 'on-call' royals to fill in for HM as required. Currently the Council is: Philip, Charles, William, Harry & Andrew. Doubtful they'd call upon Andy at this juncture. He should step aside for Beatrice, and Harry should do the same for Eugenie. Does England really want Harry's signature on any papers or receiving ambassadors? This is why they are supposed to be based in the UK, to be on-call at short notice if required. Harry is, in every sense, useless for this post.
Unknown said…
LOL @Raspberry Ruffle Thank you for the Rache's pregnancy magical act comment. Made me smile :) Magical squats indeed.


@JHanoi Thanks so much for your thoughts and ideas on Rache's deep knee squats :) LOL, I think Rache's pregnancy will always puzzle me. It boggles my mind to the n-the degree.

I've thought about the possibility that Rache was flat as a board and padding heavily until the 7/8/9 month marks. The reason I *personally* don't think that's a good answer is because she's short-waisted. Short-waisted women usually show earlier because they don't have much space for the baby to develop and so the baby grows outward.

I gave the 4/5 month qualifier because it was the old standard for a pregnant woman remaining relatively flat. If Rache was carrying very small with a 4/5 month bump, she would still need to open her knees squatting. We have pics of her deep squatting closed knees in her 7th month.


Anyways everyone, I hope everyone has a safe, healthy, and peaceful weekend :)
D said…
I'm not a fan of Markle, but the notion that she wasn't pregnant is ridiculous to me, because the pictures at the time showed she very clearly gained weight; you can see it in her face. And has long been known to be into yoga, so I imagine she had good core strength to be able to move around as she did while pregnant. I don't think she's evil either, but just like most Hollywood actors, incredibly self-absorbed, vain, and a hustler. Too shallow for evil. I just don't get "depth" from her. But I do think she's exactly where a person like her would end up imo. A narcissist? Yeah, maybe. Again, like most Hollywood types. And I think she would have LOVED to stay within the royal fold ... the attention would have been just her cup of tea, IF it hadn't gone down the path it did. But to be second to Kate? Have to go to the small towns of Britain to do her part? To face public criticism? To have to be told what to do by courtiers? Nah. It's funny, this road they're on. I still think if they had stuck it out for 5 years and/or waited until the Queen passed, they'd have been better off, but here we are. I have to wonder if she was advised by her American firm to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak, and didn't spend that much time considering all the consequences. I also still think she never understood that the courtiers weren't servants in the way she would have thought about it (i.e., she tells them what to do), but rather, servants whose entire job would be to prepare the royal = tell them what to do = for their duties and role. She seemed to get along better with people she could hire in that servant role, as opposed to people who had been in the royal fold for years and years. Not to say the courtiers aren't racist or whatever. Judgeing from documentaries about the royal family and surrounding people, I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of them were actually racist and/or discriminatory and/or small-minded and/or just plain mean. There was an unintentionally hilarious one about renovating the gift shop at B palace I think, that was a glimpse into the mindset there. VERY behind the times. And from personal experience, some English are just plain mean-spirited...it's wierd to encounter and I have English background! Like, whoa buddy, that's not polite at all! Lol. Surprised M and H couldn't rise above, but oh well. Harry is the more interesting person in all of this, because Meghan, is just doing what she does, no surprise there, and I don't see her having an arc or journey or growth. Harry...dude. Clearly on a journey that will either force him to grow up or see him flail away into oblivion. I guess we'll see. Hopefully some of the English expats in California provide a bit of kinship.
Miggy said…
There's a new Lady C video for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsQGdNdEtQ
Could Meghan Markle be US President despite being a member of the royal family?

Rebecca Taylor
Royal Correspondent
Yahoo Style UK28 August 2020

She’s recently spoken out about the US elections - but could Meghan Markle one day take the ultimate next step and run for the top job of President?

That’s the question sparked by one betting company, which has revealed the Duchess of Sussex gets more bets placed on her running for executive power in 2024 than Michelle Obama and George Clooney.

Meghan, 39, has been campaigning to encourage people, and women in particular, to use their vote in the forthcoming US Presidential Election. She has, however, been careful not to align herself to a particular party.

Despite this, her campaigning comments have prompted a flurry of bets that she could run in 2024, with betting firm Ladbrokes placing the likelihood of her doing so at 100/1.
So how would this sit with Meghan’s role as a high-profile member of the royal family.
Typically, senior royals do not vote, nor voice political opinions which would support one particular party over another in order that they remain neutral.

Although they are not formally banned Meghan herself recently revealed her husband, Prince Harry, has “never been able to vote”.

One biographer, Lady Colin Campbell, has claimed she has been told Meghan wants to run for president one day, though The Daily Telegraph has said the duchess’s recent campaigning should not be seen as “a warm-up for the Democrat cause”.

But how would this sit with her role as a royal?

Professor Robert Hazell, from the Constitution Unit at UCL, told Yahoo UK: “Meghan Markle is a US citizen by birth. Legally and constitutionally, there is nothing to prevent her from being a candidate for the US Presidency.

“Nor could the British royal family stand in her way. They have no power to do so; nor would they want to obstruct her; especially if she appeared to be a popular candidate with a chance of winning.”

Anyone wanting to run to be US president must be a “natural born citizen”, at least 35 years old, and have been a resident in the US for 14 years.

At 39, Meghan already fits all of this criteria, but it would be too late for her to enter the ballot in most states this year.

Professor Vernon Bogdanor, a research professor at King’s College London, said: “There is no legal provision by which the royal family could prohibit her standing. But of course there could be social pressures.”

Prof Hazell added: “Monarchy has more in common with an elected Presidency than might be supposed.

“In the 20th century 18 referendums were held on the future of the monarchy in nine different European countries. Monarchies survive only with the continuing support of the people; individual monarchs who lose that support tend to lose their thrones.

“This happened most recently with King Juan Carlos of Spain, after opinion polls showed two thirds of Spaniards felt he should abdicate, which he did in 2014.”

Polls over the years have shown the monarchy in the UK continues to be popular.
A YouGov poll in February found only one-fifth of people would get rid of the monarchy in the UK, with support for the institution at 62%.

Meghan has chosen to stay out of backing a specific candidate for this election, but before she married Harry, she called Donald Trump “misogynistic and divisive”.

Her appearances so far have included one with When We All Vote, a non-partisan organisation founded by Michelle Obama, and with Makers US where she spoke to lifetime campaigner Gloria Steinem.

Steinem has previously backed Democratic candidates in presidential elections, including Hillary Clinton.
year.

Meghan also talked about the importance of voting because of “what’s at stake” this


(Pictures & captions omitted)

If she can't be Queen, she'll have a State Visit instead...
Blogger holly said...
@WBBM

Appreciate the link about the Harkles starting a race war. The video backs up my theory this whole Royal thing was by design to give Markle a U.S. platform. The race card is most valuable when played in the U.S.

Markle and her backers'(Oprah) goal is political. Should she start to achieve success, my prediction is she and Harry will divorce, freeing her of her royalness to pursue her true calling of woke politics. More publicity for her, lots of emotive stories about her struggles.

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I think you've put your finger on it, Holly. She used an entire nation and its constituion for her sordid greed.
Essexgirl said…
She looked to me as though she had given birth at the meet n greet. Glassy eyed, bloated, swollen. Blimey, if all that was a hoax then she is a stone cold psychopath.
KCM1212 said…
There are laws that protect a child's income earned for acting and I would assume modeling. These were enacted to protect the unscrupulous parents of some child actors from appropriating the funds and living large or supporting their entire family from one childs work. We have all heard the stories of kids aging out of acting work and finding themselves broke after years of very hard work that ill-prepared them for normal life.

I presume that if Archie's cover photo was worth $2 million, his parents would only be entitled to a reasonable "managers fee". Not that it is, of course, but she already has the one "invasion of privacy" suit for the Canadian pap walk going. Who knows how many of those she'll come up with "in Archie's name".

It just occurred to me that they could "donate" any fees Archie was entitled to to charity. Guess which one they would use?

I'm team pillow myself, based mainly on my basic assumption that "if MM or JH said it, it's a lie" and all the weirdness surrounding the birth and pregnancy. A definite use of moonbumps. I can't easily explain the weight either, so I'm still open on that.

However, if there is an Archie, I hope someone is looking after his interests, including financial. He is going to have it rough enough with that pair as parents. If they are actually raising him.

I like to think of him as being raised in a cozy cottage in the woods with a benevolent mentor, a la Arthur and Merlin.

I wonder if the BRF made them sign something saying the merching of Archie or using him for photo ops will result in all funding being cancelled. It would explain the lawsuits for the pap shots that were set up by Meg (not our fault, Pa!)
and even the use of substitute Archies on occasion.
Unknown said…
LOL @Essexgirl :) She's an actress that makes her living lying to people and is judged as being the best by how well she can pull off said lies. Not saying Rache is one but psychopaths tend to be found in certain careers/fields.

I wouldn't put anything past Rache. She's no RADA grad where acting is an art form. Not only that, Hollywood gives Oscars for extreme weight gain/loss and serious body transformations. Think Charlize Theron who used to be the perennial "hot-girl" but is now an Oscar-Winner, Dior spokesmodel, and forever A-lister.

I'm pretty sure Rache has a vision board with an EGOT and is disgruntled that all she has to show for her performance of a lifetime is a title-less royal child. She's fuming her only "trophy" is JCMHFKAP.
Hikari said…
D--

I enjoyed reading your comments and I concur. As to the matter of her actually giving birth in the Portland Hospital or any hospital, on May 6th or any date close to it, I remain . . .agnostic. I am keeping the window of possibility cracked open a hair. Pending the outcome of the next year or so--time which is imperative for the Harkles--we may get more real information than we have had so far. I suspect that as long as this Queen lives, the matter will lie dormant. But when King Charles ascends, making Archie his constitutional ward and both he and Harry 'promoted' as child/grandchild of the reigning monarch, who knows what we shall see then? Archie is American through his mother, and so the notion of the King of England's custody superceding that of his own parents just really wouldn't fly. I predicted this when H & M fled to Canada--that Meg was setting in motion a fight in the international courts over custody ala Elian Gonzalez in the '90s--as a ploy for more post-divorce support and attention. She really does love litigation as an earning/PR ploy, as we see.

This is why allowing non-Britons into the royal family by marriage in these modern times is just a p*ss-poor idea. The monarch's rule used to be absolute; not any more. It would have been unthinkable in former days that a grandchild of the sovereign would be kidnapped from his Royal family and hidden away in the Colonies and there'd be nothing he or she could do about it. Making the Monarch the legal guardian was to protect the succession by making sure a Royal child was growing up under excellent care. However a baby may or may not have come to Harry and Meghan, does anyone really believe he is getting the tops in nurturing, loving care? Reflecting on what his life could potentially be with those two responsible for his welfare is the stuff of my nightmares.

Two of MM's mouthpieces, Omid Scobie and Lainey Lui, are reporting that the Harkles will return to the UK next spring and summer and intend to attend the Invictus Games and then take part in Trooping the Colour and the unveiling of a statue of Diana on what would have been her 60th birthday. Since Harry is still the figurehead of Invictus, I can certainly see why they would attend, and JH is Diana's son, so I can see him there - but will they even be welcome at Trooping the Colour? From what I've been reading, they're as popular as a bad case of herpes among the British people. I still remember the Commonwealth service earlier this year and how grim and uncomfortable everyone looked (with the notable exception of one person who kept grinning like a maniac throughout) and I cannot imagine that the Queen would tolerate a repeat of that. Plus, they'd be booed while they're on the balcony with HM - how embarrassing would that be?
Portcitygirl said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Blogger holly said...
@WBBM

Appreciate the link about the Harkles starting a race war. The video backs up my theory this whole Royal thing was by design to give Markle a U.S. platform. The race card is most valuable when played in the U.S.

Markle and her backers'(Oprah) goal is political. Should she start to achieve success, my prediction is she and Harry will divorce, freeing her of her royalness to pursue her true calling of woke politics. More publicity for her, lots of emotive stories about her struggles.

-----------------

I think you've put your finger on it, Holly. She used an entire nation and its constituion for her sordid greed.


Miggy said…
PDina and Lady C in conversation:


Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcn_dIaKP7c

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ai1Y9ZGCw
Mel said...

...Me, too. My instantaneous thought was she's pregnant. My next thought was they have a secret, which is....the surrogate had confirmed a pregnancy.

Whatever the look was about, they knew something between them that others didn't know, something they weren't sharing with others.
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Exactly! Implantation accomplished and all coming along nicely. I don't know at what point after IVF one can be confident that everything's hunky-dory and there's a very high probability of it coming to term. Anybody know?

We assumed a surrogate in the UK to start with (`The Lady in Brown') then only wondered about a US one after the shower, when she'd made a return transatlantic flights in what appeared to be an advanced stage of pregnancy.

MM has told so many lies (we've heard it from her own mouth) it's impossible to know what to believe. That's the problem, we're into the stage that when she may be telling the truth I can't believe her.

BP has been v. careful how it expresses itself - rather than say anything outright. Like Lady C, it's what's left out that counts.

For them to condemn her, which is what it would be if they blurted out the bald truth, would be to invite an almighty crisis with rioting and possibly insurrection, especially now BLM and the SWP have taken to the streets.

I'm not saying I'm right, I may well not be. To me it just seems the most straightforward explanation of what the H*ll's been going on, it cuts through so many of questions we've asked.

Has anyone has a better idea?
Hikari said…
I don't think she's evil either, but just like most Hollywood actors, incredibly self-absorbed, vain, and a hustler. Too shallow for evil. I just don't get "depth" from her. But I do think she's exactly where a person like her would end up imo. A narcissist? Yeah, maybe. Again, like most Hollywood types.

While I agree that Hollywood is full of the self-absorbed, and there are many examples of people like Meg we could point to . . I think she really takes the cake for the type. Most Hollywood narcissists have achieved some degree of career success/position as a result of their makeup. Meg couldn't even make narcissism work for her in that town, possibly because she's not high-level Narc enough to successfully hide it. She didn't hide anything while on the world stage as part of the Royal family, in terms of her transparent motives to dominate every situation and garner unstinting adulation. When she couldn't get those things, she cried racism and bolted. Her PR campaign is utterly relentless, and never has so much money been spent and so much floss generated for so little actual achievement. I can't believe the papers are still buying her guff.

As for her not be evil . . .I'm afraid I can't agree with you that she's just self-absorbed, in a benign sort of way. There are too many chilling photos of her looking at Catherine like she is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction and Kate is a bunny. The pictures from the Inskip wedding (which btw, Meg paid for, in order to show how important she was as Harry's plus-one) did not turn out to be the glowing PR she wanted of an in-love couple enjoying a tropical wedding. There are a number of those photos and she is giving the eye of death in every shot to anyone taking Harry's attention. We also see her verbally castigating a (black) server. The Vag scratch is neither here nor there for Narcissism, just a lack of couth in general.





Blogger Essexgirl said...
She looked to me as though she had given birth at the meet n greet. Glassy eyed, bloated, swollen. Blimey, if all that was a hoax then she is a stone cold psychopath.

August 29, 2020 at 7:56 PM

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I'm not saying anything...
@WBBM, Megsy being pregnant with Archie...

I can see the inconsistencies that you and other Nutties have raised over the months. Nothing has, or is, or will be ever be straightforward with the Duo. If they can create chitter chatter, more attention seeking grabbing headlines, they will. They love nothing more than being contrary in a very churlish and childish way. Anything they can do differently from the expected form of the Royals, they’ll do it. Anything to not give the media and the public what they want, they will. I reason a lot of their inconsistencies this way. Though, I still have question marks.

If there has been any misdeeds done, those secrets are locked up in a vault and won’t see daylight for a 100 years. We won’t ever know the absolute truth.

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@Charade,

I can see JHanoi’s point re yoga and her tummy muscles being super tight etc., with that being a first time Mum and not showing till late in their pregnancies isn’t unheard of. However, I totally agree with you over the short torso v the long torso. The baby has more space to spread out, sometimes the baby can be so far back into the Mums body is another reason some women’s pregnancies don’t show till very late. Megsy has SpongBob’s shape....no where for that baby to hide for long!

I think Megsy may have used something to make her look bigger sooner, but those magical knees together squats are truly something else! Lol ;o)
KCM1212 said…
@BarbarafromMontreal

ooh. The Trooping of the Colour would be extra-exciting wouldnt it?

Herself would be FURIOUS if delegated to one of the furthest-flung balconies instead of front and center with HM, wouldnt she? The newly-named "typhoid" balcony for just her and JH.

And Charles would present her with a gift certificate to Walmart for her outfit instead of haute couture.

No carriage ride for them with Kate and Camilla. They would have to ride with the guy who cleans up after the horses.

Sigh. If only.
Hikari said…
D-- (con't)


And I think she would have LOVED to stay within the royal fold ... the attention would have been just her cup of tea, IF it hadn't gone down the path it did. But to be second to Kate? Have to go to the small towns of Britain to do her part? To face public criticism? To have to be told what to do by courtiers? Nah . . .if they had stuck it out for 5 years and/or waited until the Queen passed, they'd have been better off, but here we are. I have to wonder if she was advised by her American firm to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak, and didn't spend that much time considering all the consequences. I also still think she never understood that the courtiers weren't servants in the way she would have thought about it (i.e., she tells them what to do), but rather, servants whose entire job would be to prepare the royal = tell them what to do = for their duties and role. She seemed to get along better with people she could hire in that servant role, as opposed to people who had been in the royal fold for years and years. Not to say the courtiers aren't racist or whatever . . . Surprised M and H couldn't rise above, but oh well. Harry is the more interesting person in all of this, because Meghan, is just doing what she does, no surprise there, and I don't see her having an arc or journey or growth. Harry...dude. Clearly on a journey that will either force him to grow up or see him flail away into oblivion. I guess we'll see. Hopefully some of the English expats in California provide a bit of kinship.

This is all very astute. Yes, if they'd been able to wait several years until Charles is King, they would have established their brand much more strongly. Also, they may have found Charles as monarch more sympathetic to their 'half-n-half' plan than his mother. Neither he nor William have the final word at this point. Charles seems to indulge Harry whatever, and so he might have been more receptive to the idea of Hasnowt and Tungsten being 'glamorous international royals' on his watch. Meg shot herself in the foot due to her reckless impatience to get going on the 'Hollywood Duchess' part of her world-domination scheme.

You are so right that Harry's motivations and feelings about this whole thing are the big mystery wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in an enigma. Nothing enigmatic about Meg's motives, only in what she's done with Archie. All her machinations and word salad and hustling paper over the complete lack of a real personality. She doesn't have one, never did, never will. Avarice is all that drives Meg. Harry is obviously having a much harder time with all of this . . But HE is the key here. HE got entangled with her, brought her into his family, destroyed his relationship with his brother, lost his military patronages and the respect of all and sundry and has gone, in the space of two years, from the most popular royal behind his Granny into being an object of revulsion, anger and pity. Does he even realize it? Has he got any vestige of free will remaining? Even with all her cunning and conniving, Meg would not be a blight on his family if HE had not gotten this ball rolling. He's sealed his fate, whatever it is.
none said…
All of the daily conflicting stories, the endless origin of Archie discussions, it's Sussex Global, no it's Archwell, now MWX, the lawsuits, the ridiculous photoshopped pictures, the dodgy Zoom sessions, is by design. To keep us all guessing.

Sightings of Harry in the UK with Charlie van Straubenzee. Online sleuths identify the building where he did the Netflix documentary segment as being in the UK.

Today DM runs a story that Prince Harry says he 'definitely would have been back' to the UK 'had it not been for COVID' in call to rugby club from $14m Santa Barbara home.

Another day another Harkle happening and it's all BS. What I'd like to know is what is the BRF's part in all of this. And what are the Harkles really up to in the U.S. What's the end game here.
Hikari said…
@D

Hopefully some of the English expats in California provide a bit of kinship.

Adele provided too much kinship for Markle's liking, I hear. However, her control over who Harry sees and where he goes and if he's even allowed to leave the house has been vastly overblown if he is in fact flying to England regularly. Always the spectre of former girlfriend/mates/family members who would talk some sense into Hasnowt into leaving her over in Blighty.

If Harry does have to return to England, especially for an extended period for visa reasons or matters of state (he is still counselor of state, to be recalled at the Queen's pleasure), then it's a wonder Meg doesn't go with him, if she's that worried about him speaking to other, British women. Particularly if either or both of his grandparents should pass in the near future--it's a matter of time now, surely--Harry will have to go in that capacity to help do whatever they need from him.

Unless of course, she cannot go back owing to having been deported by HM and her visa revoked for life. Surely an unprecedented situation for the wife and mother of a Crown heir to be in, but Meg *does* like to do things her own way. This is what doing things her own way has gotten her. Only Megsy would think she was Winning! right now.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
A question -- (Especially to British/Commonwealth Nutties)

Assuming the Harkles are brazen enough to attend Trooping of the Colour, and assuming they somehow get a carriage ride thereto, would, or would not, there be people booing them along the way? And if so, would the police lining the route do anything about it?
lizzie said…
@SawmpWoman wrote:

"But, no, as a person that has taught a few classes sometimes because of being forced into it when the demo person ditched at the last minute, the students don't usually ask for credentials or proof..."

I didn't mean students would ask for actual proof. I just meant that a student who signs up for a class and has been told in recruitment materials the instructor is known for her work in some specific way (in this case told she won awards for her work) very well might be inclined to ask about the instructor's work (and in this case, ask about her participation and awards in various shows.) Just like if I say in my blurb I have X degrees, Y licenses, and work with clients who are Z, workshop attendees might (& do) ask about those things. I didn't mean the attendees would expect me to whip out framed copies of my licenses and degrees. And I know when I took a hobby painting class that met several times the instructor did show us some of her paintings including juried work (although her work wasn't a big focus.)

@HappyDays wrote:

"I highly doubt Meghan paid for Doria’s MSW or even part of it. She obtained her degree in 2011, which is the year Meghan got the Suits role. My guess is Doria might have received some sort of scholarship aimed at older minority women."

I doubt M paid too. And you may be right about the scholarship. (M's too.) BUT I think we've been told M paid. And earlier today reading Wikipedia is the very first time I've ever read Doria got her MSW as early as 2011. (Don't think Wikipedia always said that.) That makes zero sense IMO. If it was true, why wait 4 years after she earned the degree to register as an ASW? (And we know her first registration was in 2015 per the state board site.) That registration allows the required 3000 supervised hours of practice to be accumulated over at least a full two year period so the national exam from ASWB can be taken. That process is the only way to become a LCSW. Doria never has become a LCSW and her ASW can't be renewed for much longer. But no one who thought she ever might want to become a LCSW would plan to take a few years off (to make jewelry?) so the licensure exam would be taken a minimum of 6 years after a 2011 graduation in the first place. So none of it makes sense.

Wikipedia also says Doria passed the SW licensure exam in 2015 and that can't be true. She had to accumulate post-degree supervised hours first over at least a 2-year period to be eligible to sit for that exam. And in CA that clock didn't start ticking until she got the ASW in 2015. So she couldn't have taken the ASWB national exam the same year. And CA requires the ASWB licensure exam. This really isn't like the debate over whether a "heavily pregnant" woman can squat with her knees together (I say no) Those licensure requirements are set in stone.
Hikari said…
Blogger Essexgirl said...
She looked to me as though she had given birth at the meet n greet. Glassy eyed, bloated, swollen. Blimey, if all that was a hoax then she is a stone cold psychopath.


I'm not ruling that out.

'Glassy eyed' she really was that day. Even after 2 days (or two weeks as per Harry?) of rest following a remarkably short labor at the the luxurious Portland? Parents of newborns are sleep-deprived, yeah. Harry looked no worse than usual. Personally I think Meg had partaken of some pharmaceutical courage prior to running the gauntlet of the gigantic documented lie they were about to perform for the camera. She was so uncharacteristically mute, she was on something. It wasn't just how she looked, but how she sounded, and her whole deportment. Does giving birth deprive one of the power of speech? It's the first and last time we ever saw Meg defer to Harry. She was, if not completely altered, giving a really good facsimile of it. Apart from the wedding, the performance of her life, perhaps.

Supposing that Meg really *was* postpartum, two days from Archie's birth and the photo call on the 8th of May--she herself had said many times that they'd spend 'plenty of time' bonding as a family before showing Archie. The gap between them showing Arch and Kate showing Louis was about 30 hours, then, if Catherine left the hospital 6 hours later. 2 days really seems insufficient to bond as a family or even recover sufficiently to walk in heels, in an all-white dress. Catherine never looked glassy-eyed, all those three times she left with her newborns *on the days of their births*. A little tired maybe . .glassy, no. If Meg really was not feeling up to it--and she looked out of it, for sure--why not postpone this for another week, even two? After all, they'd primed us for a wait.

Her appearance so swiftly after the birth felt more calculated than natural. Despite being bloated and glassy, she still had the presence of mind to recreate her and Harry's walk after their engagement photocall (exactly). White trenchcoat/white trenchcoat dress, check. Her hands in the identical place on Harry's back, check. Their bodies in the same position relative to camera? Check. Incredibly detailed choreography for a post-partum addled mum, I'd have thought.
Unknown said…
Portcitygirl said...
Did my response to WBBM get lost in cyber space or was it censored out? If it was censored out I'd like to know why and also why just repost a post? Was that an accident?

@Portcitygirl I did not see a post from you so it definitely wasn't censored. Please feel free to re-submit. Also I am not sure what you mean by repost a post. Am I missing something?
KCM1212 said…
@Lt Uhura

Already has happened (tge booing)

https://youtu.be/vZPYEmwCGfw
Portcitygirl said…
Thanks, Charade.

To WBBM and Holly on MM's political agenda- I definitely agree. I thought it clear starting with the pastor's sermon. Thought I had included this up thread but must have deleted it accidentally.

The question is will Harry stay for this show or will she go it alone. My guess is he does plan to stay in order to hopefully eclipse his brother. Will he last? Of this, I'm uncertain.

Cass said…
She also “walked” funny.....she kind of was all over the place!!!!!!! And WHAT the hell was that huge lump on her side?????????? It scared me!!!!!!!!
Holly,

I agree. It's to drum up constant 'interest' ala very, very expensive PR. I estimate over $120k per month, at least.

I assume the current end game is a large 'gig'. Speaker at Harvard commencement, speaker at democrat events prior to the election, paid entertainment work; book voiceovers, acting gigs that they want - A list, invites to grand galas, invites to the elite tech conferences. If they can bag a large enough gig, they can get another. No one seems to want to take the first risk, after the Disney debacle.

The Disney situation ruined their reps in LA. Serena won't speak out about them being wonderful humans anymore. Serena is A-list, and way more connected in LA, in both entertainment and because of Alexis, tech. She would have been the perfect champion for deals at studios, retail (Nike, Target), with political A- listers, sporting, tech dynamos.

Serena was Meghan's LA 'door' to the fab life before Serena closed it just as Meghan was encroaching. I mean, We KNOW Serena knew what Meghan was up to when she called her friend, 'So, Harry and I are quitting London, and are coming to live next door to, YOU! Surprise!' LOL Poor Serena.

Unknown said…
Portcitygirl said...
@Charade Sorry I was distracted and didn't read the rest of your comment. My comment up thread was posted by me but didn't have my response. That's why I thought it was lost or censored.

@Portcitygirl Thanks. Understood. I don't have the ability to edit submitted posts. I can only approve or delete completely. Hope that's clear.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
KCM1212 said...
@Lt Uhura

Already has happened (tge booing)

https://youtu.be/vZPYEmwCGfw

______________________________

Hahaha! Thanks for the link!

That was obviously before a LOT of accumulation of plenty more Harkle hijinks. In a way, I hope they DO crash TOC ;)
Unknown said…
abbyh said...
Charade It might be my ISP but when you send out your comment, I get the email twice. I don't know if anyone else has this, it is my ISP or something but it wasn't happening before the moderation. Thanks

@abbyh LOL, sorry about that. I actually write up the comment but then want to edit it and then repost. I then delete officially from the thread. Last two comments, I thought it would be best to include Nutties messages with my response.

I am pretty sure you won't get a double email this time. Please let me know if you do.
Unknown said…
abbyh said...
Nope and thank you. I thought I was losing my mind a little.

LOL @abbyh :) Thanks. Good to know we're *both* not losing our minds a little.
Hikari said…
@Cass

She also “walked” funny.....she kind of was all over the place!!!!!!! And WHAT the hell was that huge lump on her side?????????? It scared me!!!!!!!!

Bearing in mind that I am agnostic toward Megsie's natural motherhood, my guesses are . . .Xanax chased with some Tig, for the weaving, glassiness, mumbling--seriously, the first time ever *I could not hear Meg's voice*. Assertive, domineering Megsie was completely gone. She also clutched onto Harry's arm for balance, it seemed like. High? Could have been prescribed painkillers for epi, I suppose. But this woman had sailed through an effortless labor at 37 years of age and been back home in time for elevenses on the morning she gave birth! She said! If it was that effortless, why was she so shell-shocked two days later?

I had been kinda hoping the sh*t had hit the fan over the birth circus and Lord G. had really put the frighteners on her. That was it, really--Megsie looked *scared*. There was only one hand-picked journalist there with his cameraman--the same 'Allen' who'd recorded Haz in front of the Queen's horses two days earlier. So it was not an overwhelming press phalanx such as confronted other Royal mums outside their hospital rooms. Why was she suddenly struck nearly mute and incapable of standing unaided? More acting/substance driven . . ?

If Meg was truly feeling bad and wanted to rest longer, why didn't she? Two days after giving birth was much shorter than the time we expected for 'family bonding in private'.

As for the huge bump sticking out of her side, it was obviously her post-partum fake pillow slipped sideways. The dress was so tightly fitted, it probably skewed anything underneath. Obviously a floaty away from the body style would have alleviated that and been much more flattering and comfortable, but not only did Meg need us to see her looking 'post partum', she was also adamant on recreating the white trenchcoat look of her engagement photo call.
Portcitygirl said…
Charade

Thanks for clearing it up.
D said…
Eh, personally can't be bothered over the where and when of Meghan giving birth, or the how or why. And if Harry didn't and doesn't matter within the royal hierarchy, Archie matters even less. He's an innocent little boo-boo. I'd rather just hope he's getting a good upbringing and leave it at that. Although I can't see the royal family or institution doing anything at all about Archie. For them, out of sight, out of mind, and, they don't have to do anything. I really think that Harry and Meghan being out of the royal fold works better for the institution at this point because now it can focus all the energies on the current set and Harry is even less of a problem to deal with than before. Everyone there looks like they're practically radiating with relief now that Harry and Meghan are gone.

I guess I'm going to have to disagree about the evil thing, because it just gives her too much credit, lol. To me she's still just a d-list actress hustling her hardest in a town of hustlers and despite marrying royal, knew she was out of her depth, couldn't manipulate or charm her way into trust, and her ego just couldn't let things go and just take the time to LEARN, never mind learn to play the game within a new sandbox, so instead hustled her way back to her comfort zone. Actually, had she stayed longer within the royal family, she could have rebuilt her image into something. But now, I mean, compare her vibe to all the black actresses in Black Panther. They have the "it" factor, and talent, and community, and give off the vibe they can do anything successfully. She reminds of a narcissist I dealt with...all charm and hustle and opinion and ideas and and and and...all the depth of a grain of sand and oh so offended when someone doesn't blow smoke up their butt 24 hours a day. Some narcissists are extremly successful. Markle ... eh, shrug.

So, Harry and Meghan are fascinating from a career/PR/communications standpoint, given their "status". How Harry went from the favourite grandson to disgruntled Prince hating his role. How the couple chose what has effectively become a living a soap opera in the sordid world of showbiz, over living within an institution where despite being low on the royal family totem pole, I think they'd still have opportunities to have a fairly decent life, full of glitz and glamour. How on earth husting in Hollywood is ooobetter is beyond me. How is shopping pictures of their baby ok? How they keep making so many missteps with their charity names, with their media opps, with their image, their lives, their careers. How they thought the half in half out approach would have worked, especially so soon after marrying. It's like a junior level employee telling the CEO how they should change their business strategy FOR THEM. Of course they had to leave after that. In business, they'd be fired! I mean.

A lot about Meghan DOES come across as calculated, which must why so many people react to her negatively, and why she wasn't entirely successful as an actress AND why she was looking for partners in Britain before she met Harry. She may be royal by marriage but her acting and hustle and PR moves still feel like they're coming from an amateur level. Whereas Harry feels performative to me and still a newbie somehow. Who knows, though. Maybe he's perfectly happy. He doesn't seem ambitious in a good way, so it's no surprise I guess that he is where he is today. After all, there was nothing stopping him, really, from putting in the work to get a solid foundation in SOMETHING and build on it, like even putting in effort in the military to become a high-ranking officer with a specialty in something that would also have been useful to the Brits, the royals, and the commonwealth. How he never saw that opportunity. Maybe that's why he's so fascinating...watching wasted potential in real-time. It's never too late, but still.
none said…
The only way we will ever know the truth about how "Archie" came to be, will be if the BRF wants it to be known. They are many clues they do know and steps haven been taken to protect the Crown.

Do they want us to know? I don't think so. So until they say otherwise, there's an "Archie". None of the questions surrounding his birth will be answered because the BRF family says he is who he is.


xxxxx said…
@August 29, 2020 at 11:01 PM---- @D ---- Good Hikari level post. You mention "Black Panther". Chadwick Boseman died yesterday. Age 43, cancer.
SwampWoman said…
Thank you for the heads up about the new Lady C video. I enjoyed the Barbara Cartland video (I read a couple of BC's books when I was a teenager and, frankly, thought they were below my reading level (grin) because teenagers are the snottiest people on the planet. Lady C was right, BC wrote the same book hundreds of times, just changing the settings and the names. I'm going to watch the next one (Rule Britannia, Land of Hope & Glory, Free Speech, and Deluded Ignoramuses) and will probably make a comment about it later.

I'm concerned about us not hearing from tatty yet. I imagine much of Louisiana is still without electricity (or cell phone towers).
Cass said…
Hikari, SOMETHING BIG DID happen and they were not able to get away with keeping the baby away from the public for the 2 to 3 weeks they were emphatic about because they needed that time to bond with their baby. Nobody had a problem with that. So why “surprise” us a day and a half later with the weird presentation of what looked to me like a good replica of a newborn baby. The thing is, in my opinion, most day and a half old babies don’t look as beautifully perfect as the baby they showed us did. He wasn’t all red and blotchy and wrinkled nor did he look like he had just undergone the trauma of being born! Well at least his nose and eyelids didn’t which is all we were able to see!

Also, he was just the most perfect baby in that he did not twitch even once during the presentation. But then she did say he was a “good baby” or words to that effect. She didn’t finish her sentence though, saying,,,”All I have to do is stick him back in his suitcase and shove him back in the closet”

As a 3 times young mother who LIVED in high heels, I could barely walk straight in my slippers after giving birth. stiletto heels? I would have taken 3 steps and fallen flat on my face! She sounded and looked sooooooo out of it.........maybe that’s why Harrry was holding the baby and not her.

And yes, for someone who loves to hear herself talk, and talk, and talk, she was very quiet.

Also, As. most mothers will agree, after recently having given birth, there are bodily fluids coming out all over the place. No way would I present myself in a tight, white fitted dress. She was so out-of-it she didn’t realize her after baby bump was too big, too high and she also had a very obvious....I don’t know what to call it.........a growth or a big lump on her side. Honestly, When I saw it I thought “OH MY GOODNESS”. what happened to her? what is that? That’s AWFUL!!!!!

i noticed her wobbling with her legs spread far apart and thought to myself....”what the hell did she pack up in there 4 postpartum pads?“

And then it was over, they turned and walked away and then you could really see her wobbling and leaning on Hairy.

But would you believe I was still convinced that yes, she had just had a baby!!!!! It was at the crazy woman with the doll at the polo. match that shocked me and I thought to myself....”OH MY, something is terribly wrong...what is going on here.

And lastly, I was so disappointed not to see pictures of Harry holding his son on Father’s Day. Not a blurry, taken from a distance, photoshopped picture but a true, clear picture of a happy daddy holding and loving on his baby boy!
SwampWoman said…
Lady C is very annoyed at the ignoramuses!
D said…
@xxxX, yeah. To quote another actor/Spike of all people, "there's a hole in the world." There are no words.

So I dunno. Thinking of that sweet soul, ... letting Meghan and Harry live rent-free in my mind...a waste. Time to sign off and go do something useful.
SwampWoman said…
I do disagree with Lady C on one point. While slavery may be "officially" (wink wink nudge nudge) abolished in Mauritania, it still exists.
Just a passing thought:

First, Gloria gave MM a set of four beaded bracelets, just beads strung along a wire or sting. It doesn't take a lot of talent to make these bracelets, as kids have been making them for at least couple of decades now.

This is the description of Gloria's bracelet, which has just gone back into production to celebrate feminist.com's 25th anniversary.

"Product details:
Glass colored and alphabet beads, sold in a set of four (two solid, two with words).
One Size / Standard 7" (please contact us for custom size orders)

In honor of Feminist.com's 25 year anniversary this year, we are happy to announce Gloria's bracelets are back in production! E-mail us to be notified when they are back in stock!"

https://www.feminist.com/gloriabracelets.html

Just a few days later, Doria is said to be making very similiar simple beaded bracelets and is/has been supposedly teaching classes on stringing beaded bracelets. The techniques and materials she supposedly uses/teaches are exactly the same as those that are used in the making of Gloria's bracelets.

Anybody else see a connection here? Oh, and interestingly, since we've been discussing the similarities between Yoko Ono and MM, Gloria's bracelets are:

"Created in partnership with the Yoko Ono and the MaidenNation Imagine Project."

It also said that "proceeds" from the sale of the bracelets are to go to feminist.com. Well, how much of the proceeds? Anywhere from one percent to 100 percent? Does Gloria get a cut from each sale? Has Doria set up a little side business making bracelets for Gloria to mark up and then sell, and then take a cut of the sale price? Does Yoko also get a cut?

Who makes of Gloria's bracelets (Doria?), and exactly how much of the proceeds go to feminist.com?




Cass said…
I don’t think Cartier has anything to worry about! 😂
I just watched the photocall again, and the first question was

Meghan, what's it like having a baby?

Her response?

She looks at Harry and says 'I have two of the best guys in the world, so I'm happy."

He asked her about the baby, she answers about Harry, and calls them 'guys'. Why is she always selling to Harry?? It's exhausting as if he can easily forget she exists. I just can't believe after giving birth, she'd still be showing her insecurity in her relationship.
Also, in the photocall, Harry pretty much admits that the baby is supposed to change over two weeks (flub), and (correction time!) will be monitoring how he looks in a month (answering who he takes after). and ...forgets he's covering his lie...'his looks are changing every single day'

This was supposedly 30 hours after she gave birth.

That is a lie.

Harry is really bad at switching from the truth to the lie. It's obvious in that interview. Meghan also puts her hand up to her mouth and looks concerned while he is saying the 'two weeks' statement (typical gesture of trying to cover a lie) and then giggles when he recovers with the 'after the month' because she was relieved ('ok, they should buy that').

Thanks for bringing up that Archie presentation again, you can see very clearly they lie about everything.

No telling why Meghan was so fat and bloated, and yeah, it could be a doll.
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari said "Catherine never looked glassy-eyed, all those three times she left with her newborns *on the days of their births*."

Catherine left hospital the day after George's birth, and I think the same day for Charlotte and Louis. This is what I found very strange about MM, she left hospital (allegedly) a few hours after the birth. I was very surprised, especially as she would have been considered as an 'elderly primigravida'.This was all the more surprising for a member of the BRF, although the hospital wouldn't have been able to force her to stay the night.

Re the 'bump, I remember a photo of MM in Morocco wearing a blue dress and the bump simply seemed to disappear once she was sitting down. A bump is very hard and you cannot sit down and cross your legs as the bump does get in the way. Ditto squatting with knees closed - and then springing back up unaided. Yes, she does yoga etc but I'm afraid the yoga explanation doesn't cut it.
Hikari said…
@unknown

What really struck me in that photo call, apart from the preternaturally still child who didn’t twitch or coo once despite Harry digging into his little arm, was Meg referring to her first 48 hours with a newborn ‘magic’.

The miracle of life is indeed amazing...But she didn’t even say amazing, incredible, humbling (as if), Call herself tired but blessed, Any other thing you may have heard a new mom say. ‘Magic’ Is a patented MarkleSparkle(TM) catchword, As is amazing, she and Harry say amazing all the time. To describe childbirth and the first 48 hours of new parenthood as‘Magic’ Really sounds like it’s coming from a woman who has not experienced them. She was a hot mess, Nothing magic about her that day, except possibly some mushroom she ingested earlier.

If she had indeed given birth to Archie two days prior, She would have subjected herself to far less scrutiny if she had just shown him off on the pavement in front of the Portland. I’ve re-watched Catherine’s presentation of her kids, and the first time with George, as Charles had done with him, the proud papa came out holding the baby. Catherine also says very little, And a couple is not subjected to many questions at all. They stand briefly at the doorway for pictures, William says a couple of words, they walk to the car which is parked just steps away. By insisting on having a private meeting with the press in the luxurious but long gallery at Windsor, Meg obliged herself to do
A lot more walking, standing, and answering questions then is customary. The photog’s really don’t want to tax the new mom...All they want are some pictures and a chance to offer well wishes.

To my thinking, if the palace forced her to present a baby to the public before she was good and ready...Or, tin hat time, before she actually had a baby to show...The dazed and disheveled appearance was to elicit sympathy. Victim again of the cruel palace machine. That photo call seemed as chaotic and last minute as everything else they do.
Ziggy said…
RE: Meghan maybe not thinking Archie is perfect enough to show off...

My narc said of our beautiful, healthy new baby boy- "he's not the kind of baby you show off."

Hikari said…
I remembered what I meant to include in my last comment. More photo call weirdness:

Reporter Alan asks plaintively if Harry can move the blanket, So the camera could get a better view saying we can’t really see him. And we couldn’t. We saw a hat a blanket and a little nose. Harry obliges by moving the blanket about 1 inch. Megs hand IMMEDIATELY flies in front of the baby’s face and she starts rubbing his head right where the fontanel should be. Her attempt to look “maternal”? Except that she didn’t touch the baby until the reporter asked to see him a little more closely. The effect was her hand was obscuring the baby more.

Dodgy.

I don’t remember getting a super close view of George, but Princess Charlotte was shown in her carrier, Full face in her little bonnet and blanket. She was newly born that day and was it perfect little sugar plum of a face. Some babies come out pretty from the get go, But I wouldn’t necessarily expect that from a Sussex sprog.
Cass said…
and whatever that big growth or lump, or bump or whatever you want to call it sticking out of her side scared me....it is not natural to have that sticking out of your SIDE after giving birth. I was afraid for her, wondering what the hell that was caused by!
KCM1212 said…
@D

Excellent post, D! Beautiful summation of the Harkle Debacle
Jess said…
I don’t think it matters one way or another. She’s not that influential. Harry - maybe.
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