A brief snapshot: Katy Perry, in a sequined floor-length mermaid gown with a cape made from the American flag, in Iowa to support Hillary Clinton in 2015.
Perry looked more than a little out of place performing outdoors in the daytime, surrounded by modestly-dressed civilians in the mostly agricultural state.
Trump ended up winning Iowa 51.2% to 41.7%; Hillary's performance was the worst by a Democrat in the state since 1980.
Katy's glamorous presence was apparently not a plus.
A different approach
Another brief snapshot: George Clooney, then at the peak of his career, meets with Barack Obama in 2008 just as the future president's campaign was beginning to catch fire.
"I told him I'd do whatever it takes to get him elected," Clooney told the press, "including staying the hell away from him if that was what he needed."
George was apparently smarter than Katy, and Obama won his election easily.
Joe and Kamala and Meghan and Harry
Let's return to the present, when Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, has make her electoral preferences clear.
Her recent low-resolution video, apparently made on an iPhone 3, urged women to vote for "the change we all need and deserve" was seen as a tacit endorsement of Joe Biden and his vice-presidential nominee, Kamala Harris.
Meghan went suggest that those who didn't vote to do so were "part of the problem. If you're complacent, you're complicit."
(Opponents of President Donald Trump frequently use the word "complicit" for anyone who works with Trump, suggesting that they are "complicit" in his misdeeds.)
But does Meghan really have the ability to move any votes?
Meg the persuader
One of the most important things you learn when you study communications and journalism is that it's not about what you say - it's about the effect your words have on the viewer, listener, or reader.
If that individual is, say, an Iowa farmer wondering why a woman in a sequined dress and a flag cape is performing in a parking lot on a Sunday afternoon at a time most people would rather be watching football, the effect may be negative on her chosen candidate.
And Katy Perry is, at least, generally well-liked.
Compare her case to Meghan, a runaway member of the British royal family, unemployed and couchsurfing, but strangely able to buy a luxury mansion from a mysterious Russian oligarch.
A woman with an increasingly odd head of hair, a meek and cowering husband, and a very small fan club.
Is Meghan really the type of person whom Americans identify with, someone who can convince them to vote and vote as she suggests?
Or will she have a negative effect on her chosen candidate?
Biden has other, better celebrities on his side
The Biden-Harris team already has the endorsement of much more popular celebrities.
Taylor Swift, Lebron James, and John Legend have shared their support for the Democratic candidate. So have Billie Eilish and Steph and Ayesha Curry.
Cardi B, one of the hottest celebrities around whatever you think of her, even did
an interview with Biden last week - if you can call it an interview, since Cardi does all the talking.
The last thing Biden really needs is another celebrity endorsement - in fact, so many celebrity endorsements run the risk of making him look like the candidate of the glitterati as opposed to the common man, common woman, or common non-binary individual.
The person who really benefits
If anyone benefits from Meg's political activism, it is her own brand, or what she hopes to make into her own brand - woke celebrity ex-Royal.
A (bejeweled) hand extended to help women, minorities, and dogs, at least until the dogs prove too bothersome and have to be left behind somewhere near Toronto.
Do you think Meg's activism will help the Biden/Harris ticket, or the causes she claims to support?
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Also, by endorsing a Presidential candidate who wrote or co-wrote a bill that was bad for the minority community, and a VP candidate who was a bad DA is not a good look for any celebrity.
This doesn't bother me, tho, as regards Markle. If anything, it hastens her demise in the public domain.
And the sooner the better! It is getting to the point that I can't stand seeing her, much less hearing her!
If possible, please read the email I sent. I'll clean up the mess in the other thread later. This was a working weekend and then what went down on the blog. After all that, I really need a breather.
"If anyone benefits from Meg's political activism, it is her own brand, or what she hopes to make into her own brand - woke celebrity ex-Royal."
I think you answered your own question, Nutty.
I agree with Lily that people are getting tired of being told by the glamorous people who they ought to support.
And, Disgusted, Tunbridge Well is on target that many who associate with her wind up being on the losing end of the deal. Funny how that happens so consistantly.
What I wonder about is the if they do allow her some sort of visible meeting with him or any of his team, wouldn't the press corp documenting this be the same kind of situation that they needed to be able to leave the UK? How would or would it be allowed for her to have her photographer (security clearances) and kick out the other press people?
I have seen a number of comments online where people are questioning the queen's extreme tolerance of the Harkle's behaviour. And they are not happy.
Ultimately Markle's political activism is for the people of the States to judge. But while she is the member of the royal family with royal titles and charities to her name her and Harry's behaviour is harming UK and the royal family first.
I agree, @Lily Love
Also, I tend to think that Trump's most vehement opponents are helping him more than hurting him.
Did you see this nutjob today suggesting that the bushes in Melania's newly-unveiled Rose Garden spell out the letters KKK, ie Ku Klux Klan?
https://twitter.com/stonecold2050/status/1297285398339579904?s=20
What a nut.
Anyway, if Meg was more tactical, she would have gone for Trump. He has almost no celebrities supporting him - Scott Baio, maybe? - so she really would have been able to stand out.
Not good for her presence in Hollywood, but she's not doing that well anyway. And the Russian oligarch might have approved. :)
Can somebody from the royalist side explain to me how the Queen can put up with a titled member of her own family getting involved into politics of the foreign state?
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YES, I, too, would like an answer to this question.
I know that HM The Queen is 94. She is in the twilight of her reign. She doesn't need this Markle person tarnishing her.
Perhaps the Grey Men can step in. Someone needs to.
"apparently made on an iPhone 3"
Nutty, you are the Queen of snark! Bravo!!
His parents know he is hopeless, and they waited as long as they possibly could to hand over the reins to him.
With all respect, do you mean Harry is Charles' problem because he is his son? That is true, but the Queen is still the head of state and the head of the royal family. If Charles is hopeless at the matter she should have stepped in.
She didn't.
I do not see any firm action from her or Charles. They both appear totally helpless.
I don't think celebrity endorsements have ever held much sway, and if I am wrong about "never" I definitely think they don't matter any more.
I don't think anything matters any more. US politics have become so hateful that we are now voting more against the other candidate than we are for platforms/policies. I know people who hated Hillary but would have crawled over broken glass to vote for her because they hated Trump more. This is what we have come to.
The traitor and his yacht girl are not going to have any effect whatsoever on the election, other than perhaps a reverse Midas Effect, which seems to be the only thing they manage to do well.
Oh, Meghan, Meghan, Meghan.
As it stands today, our $mirkle is still--God help them--a member of the British Royal Family. She is NOT a "celebrity". She is, nauseatingly, a Royal.
As such, she should leave her big trap SHUT when it comes to American politics, even though she is still a US citizen.
I cannot believe that her endorsement or involvement in the US political process will sway ANYONE's vote, so her voice is useless and negligible to the end result.
She will not impact the election at all.
Could she use her voice to benefit non-political causes she would like to support?
Absolutely, but I think her brand is damaged and tarnished enough that most prospective non-profits would (should) run screaming the other way if she approached them.
She and JKMH are damaged goods.
She's been caught in lies. She's been seen to be calculating and self-serving. She sweats in public. Surely that has to be as a significant and unforgivable crime in status conscious California.
I don't think her support will benefit any person or organization, and certainly not the Biden campaign. Therefore, her support of the Biden/Harris ticket really won't help any brand she and Hapless Harry are trying to create, because no one is buying what they are trying to sell.
I used to have an iPhone 3.
It reminds me a bit of those old Doris Day comedy movies, when they used to shoot her in super-soft focus to cover up her (totally natural) late 30s-early 40s wrinkles.
When the camera focuses on Doris, the background gets all fuzzy. Then it's Rock Hudson's turn to speak, and the background becomes crisp and distinct. When Doris responds, it gets all fuzzy again.
I agree with Uhura in that I believe the Queen is 94 and unable to be as involved as she once was. I believe she has handed day-to-day operations over to Charles.
Harry is of course Charles' son, but when you're head of the family, whatever problems are in the family are your problems.
Someone is doing an excellent job keeping Andrew out of sight, by the way. Not sure if this is the Queen or Charles. I notice that Meg's defenders like to haul out Andrew's case again whenever Meg is being upbraided for something or other.
In a tweet, someone showed the difference between Meghan and Catherine for these baby charities. Catherine organised behind the scenes with companies to donate, and made an appearance at the end of the donation drive. She had come up with the idea and she and her staff worked on it for weeks if not months.
Meghan makes one call, shows up with her photographers and stays for 10 minutes. Oh, and she asks for a private jet to get there
Thank you! It's an interesting time right now.
Young people are usually too lazy or too undecided to vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrqo4UUT_X8
Yes, you're right that young people usually have a very low turnout percentage. Although with corona everything could be different this year - who knows.
I personally think the voting technology itself is going to be the biggest issue this year. Just sent in for my absentee ballot - some of you may know I am an American living overseas - and they asked if I would like them fax it to me. Fax?
If Meghan really wanted to be useful, she could have told whatever audience she has to register to vote *now* and ask for an absentee ballot if they needed one. Nonpartisan and helpful.
I think you're right that she's desperate for attention and headlines. But she's not very imaginative.
I also think it's odd that there are so few high-quality photos coming out of her team. Not just of Archie - although that is very weird - but of her and Harry.
Instead, the media keep using and reusing the same old photos. If I see that green outfit from the Commonwealth Day one more time...
@Uhura, I agree, and I think the real problem is Charles, who is hopeless.
His parents know he is hopeless, and they waited as long as they possibly could to hand over the reins to him.
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Ugh. The real problem IS Charles. If the Monarchy goes down, it will be on HIM. Forever, and for all time. Not to mince words, but Christ on a Crutch. Not a Battle fought and won, but a sledge of slime, oozing down into history's toilet.
---- Megsy is nutty but not this nutty. This looks like the "grey men" having fun at her expense. It gets so boring, holed up in Balmoral Castle. During her 5PM gin the mischievous Queen lifted her little pinkie, her grey men took it from there.
Meh - they've had bad monarchs before. And I think William will have a honeymoon period when he takes over.
@JDubya
Interesting about the demo - I saw the video you linked to. Pretty good turnout. I do wish people would distinguish between pedophiles and people involved with post-pubescent teenagers, however. Not excusing the latter, but it's simply a different crime. It's like confusing fraud and robbery or something.
But everyone has jumped on the Andrew bandwagon as a way to say 'look he's worse than Meghan, leave her alone'.
Two wrongs are still wrong.
@Uhura
Meh - they've had bad monarchs before. And I think William will have a honeymoon period when he takes over.
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I'll take heart from you then :)
I'm surprised that Meg and Harry haven't been linked to it. Everything about them is so shady, it would seem like a natural fit.
Charles has had ample opportunity to squash the woke duo but has not. My money is on William for wrapping this madness up when he is able to. (Terrible grammar but you get my point.)
I think the hopefully-soon-to-be-irrelevant duo is fighting hard for one last chance at recognition which is why we're being inundated with all these zoom calls.
Them asking you if you wanted it faxed to you is horrifying. It should be sent to you via certified mail, or you should have the option of going to the nearest US embassy to vote.
Megsy has made it pretty clear she can’t stand Trump and it’s even been reported that she wasn’t going to move back to America whilst he’s in office. The forked tongued Madam moved back there earlier this year.....now she’s back on her soap box, how. can she not see how this all looks? She’s so duplicitous (and shown to be so), she’s got to be seen as a huge political turn-off no matter who you support.
I agree with pretty much all the above. I wish 'celebrities' would just shut up and stay in their lane. Fine to voice an opinion - everybody's got one - but I'm gonna need to see a Poli Sci degree before you sway my vote/decision.
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Yep. Nicely said.
Our girl SUPPOSEDLY earned a degree in International Studies.
"Someone is doing an excellent job keeping Andrew out of sight, by the way. Not sure if this is the Queen or Charles. I notice that Meg's defenders like to haul out Andrew's case again whenever Meg is being upbraided for something or other.
I don't disagree but unlike Meghan, it's possible Andrew is willing to stay out of sight. That he finally understood "step back" meant that.
I'm also not sure that citing Andrew's sins will help Meghan's work for the Democratic party. We have one photograph of Andrew with a woman that raises questions. We have miles of video with Uncle Joe rubbing on women and female pre-teens and adolescents. And then there's Bill Clinton. (Sorry if that was too political but the thread topic makes politics hard to avoid!)
I don't think M will be a political king or queen-maker. But who knows. I can't understand how anyone would listen to her about anything. But if she alternately "gushes" about carrying out the Queen's legacy in the CW and voting in the US (something she reportedly hasn't done for years) then I understand even less why people would listen.
I think the only time a celebrity endorsement is useful is when an established celebrity is endorsing an up-and-coming politician - the classic case of Oprah endorsing Barack Obama, for example, or Governor Bill Clinton playing the saxophone on the Arsenio Hall show back in the day.
Once your candidate is already the nominee of a major party, your endorsement isn't as valuable.
And @lizzie, I lived in Delaware for 15 years while B-man was senator and then VP. His verbal gaffes were legendary and his 'sniffing; even more so. Just ugh.
Perfectly said, Nutty! I wish more famous folks could figure that out.
Them asking you if you wanted it faxed to you is horrifying. It should be sent to you via certified mail, or you should have the option of going to the nearest US embassy to vote.
The sending it to me isn't all that important - it's more about me sending it back to them securely. In previous years I've been able to get a PDF and print it out. Not sure what happened this year.
And yes, I do have the option of dropping it off at a US Embassy.
As in, "Hey she is one of us. What the heck, she is an English Princess too. Give her that minor producing job." "Why? Because I said so, now go make it happen!"
Should Biden be worried ?
What's going on in the palace? Goodness knows.
HM, alas, hid her head in the sand over Charles and Di for a long time. That was over 20 years ago. What's been going on with Meg is outside any other experience she may have had - I think, for her, there are well-defined procedures for well-defined crises. This is different.
We have been told in the past that she reads `all the newspapers'. It that is still true, she must have a shrewd idea of what's going on. Otherwise, perhaps she is being shielded from the truth.
Has the PM dared to bring it up in the Tuesday audiences? I doubt it until, it becomes a matter of state importance. A very delicate matter and the nation has far more immediate major problems: Covid, the economy and EU withdrawal.
I've long sympathised with Charles - he's had a rough deal from the papers for a very long time. Does anyone else remember the under-age cherry brandy scandal, c 1962-3?
Heres the ref:
https://magazine.trueroyalty.tv/2019/04/30/royal-moments-when-prince-charles-was-caught-drinking-underage/
Before that, it was his ears and his tonsils.
He has a stubborn streak, however, and I fear he's Meg's facilitator, in addition to H's dad. I never expected to hope that he might step aside in favour of William but I'm rapidly getting to that point. Whether he has the guts, balls or any other part of his anatomy required to stand up to the Harkles is doubtful.
There have been rumours of a Regency when HM achieves her 95th birthday in April next, but don't hold your breath.
I'd like to think that William will given more clout - at his appearance at the VJ commemoration, he projected a very regal image, solid, reliable, strong. I wouldn't be surprised if C is a bit jealous.
HM's mother made it to 101 and HM looks good for at least another 6 years. I doubt if anyone has reminded her that the reigns of Elizabeth and Victoria both faded out at the end, both of those queens being old by standards of the time (70 & 81 respectively). Their courtiers and advisors were frustrated by the lack of direction from above (EI didn't even name a successor - it was left to Cecil to make the decision, once the Queen was dead)
I may have said this before, but when the Di-supporters were up in arms about C & Camilla getting married, and not wanting her to be Queen, I suggested that Charles might predecease his mother - anything could happen before the Queen's reign ended. It could still - we don't know what long-term toll Covid may have taken on Charles.
The only thought that gives me some comfort about Charles is that his grandfather wasn't rated very highly as a potential king, yet, put to the challenge, he succeeded, supported by a tough wife. I don't think Camilla is pushover, so there's a little hope there.
Thank goodness for the sterling middle-class British women who have married into the Windsors within the last couple of decades or so.
Just normal Biden, then? (Should I be relieved or horrified?)
Just normal Biden, then? (Should I be relieved or horrified?)
Probably both!
Jules, I thought his verbal gaffes were senility and sniffing and groping was a sign that he was losing control of his pedophile-suspicious behavior.
Just normal Biden, then? (Should I be relieved or horrified?)
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Yes.
I was astonished - an Independent article saying she can't have her cake and eat it - unfortunately it proved to be a peg on which to hang opinions on proportional representation.
People in politics are often not perfect, but you have to be willing to fall in line.
I believe her pathology blinds her from being able to read the room. I am sure she wasn't encouraged to crash MO's book signing, and she was publicly told (gently) that her presence at Serena's match would be a "distraction" (I'm paraphrasing). And she STILL went.
She is not coachable, and she will throw a hissy fit and sue when she doesn't get her way. We have also seen how she tears down the ones around her (her family, the Royal Family). She could try this with people who would likely threaten her with their popularity (AOC) but they would bite back.
Meghan is a non-issue of campaign. If they thought she was of use she would have figured more prominently in convention. As you stated previously they rather "hid" her. She is not going to sway anything as her fanbase does not appear of age to vote
Anyone remember when Madonna came out caped in flag "Rock the Vote"? Not sure what age she was when that was happening but it was soon discovered she was not even registered to vote and she was not 19 or 20 , well beyond
Makes me think to Meghan. I do not doubt she is registered but how often has she voted or even cared living in Toronto? She blows back in here after dissing Trump to "rule the world" her husband is Royal of country we sought our independence from. Can't make this up. It is current news that is only reason she is inserting herself in it ala BLM. How long did she last with that
Her baby gifting charitable appearance was joke as well. Heck she didn't even don the same shirt every other volunteer was wearing. Why not? I do believe private jet story was invented. By whom I dunno but I liked it 😉
Does anyone think she might do more of play to support Kamala? Biracial just like me?
All of these "Kate wasn't supportive stories" are goading them to dish dirt, in my opinion. They don't because they won't be dragged down to her level, which is just another example of how completely ill-equipped she is for the Royal family.
There are rumors that she is the started the story of Prince William's affair, that she took pictures of Prince George without permission, and that she gave Kate a knife for a Christmas present. If ANY of these stories are true, the Cambridges have zero reason to trust her.
I read that Dan Wootton traced the Rose/WM rumour to the Sussex's office. He has since been accused of slipping backhanders to Royal staff - so it may be true.
George Clooney had the right idea to be willing to be in the background if that benefits his candidate.
Unlike the silly Cardi B who's "interview" got national attention, Meghan is a non-entity in the US and there was no press coverage of her antics unless she was featured in People magazine.
There are very serious issues facing the country due to the Covid-19 pandemic and it's brutal effect on our economy. People have lost jobs and loved ones and that will be foremost when they make up their mind who to vote for. Everything Meghan does seems to be for self promotion and not to benefit the charity or candidate. IMHO,Meghan views these events as a networking opportunity for her benefit and that's it.
It seems an obvious question and I apologise, but make sure it’s a valid email address. Did you accidentally untick the box? Or subscribe to the wrong blog post? I’d try again, I’m sure it’s happened to me in the past.. ;o)
Also kudos to the Cambridges for not hitting back when they could deliver a mighty whallop.
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Amen.
Actually, every time they do NOT say anything, they are delivering the best whallops of all, IMO. They are the bigger people. The Harkles are shite.
Something she ought to have considered, and a reason the royals stay out of politics, is people might get to pondering who voted for her and elected her Duchess? Whoopsie, having a title is as anti-democracy as it gets.
Eh. I know we are a dwindling cohort.
Doesn't mean I won't rest till they ARE DONE.
Celebrity endorsements preach/reach to the base, but bring in very new voters--according to a study of a survey by political science professor (Jackson, Bowling Green State University).
Who endorsed Hillary in 2016, Kim K, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Oprah, JayZ and B, Katy Perry and a bunch of other lesser know celebrities who love to hear the sound of their own opinions and will leave the country if the vote does not go their way (oh, sounds like Madam). Trump had few celebrity endorsements.
As our Nutty stated, Oprah played a significant role in getting votes (around a million), PR, and funding for Obama during his first election. This was before most people payed much attention to social media and when Oprah still had her TV show and when many folks really wanted to vote for a bi-racial president and were willing to vote for someone saying they would get the US out of the looming recession that hit in 2008.
Narkle will have little influence on the outcome of the election, but her goal is to raise her profile, not help a candidate.
I am pretty sure that the US elections will be over by late November (although I shall be happy to be corrected on this). I think HM will be watching to see how Half-Wit and Has-Been behave during that time; whether they "lower their voices", so to speak, or whether they become more politically active.
If either the two of them, or just one, starts shooting their mouth(s) off, then I should like to think that her Christmas Message to the Nation may be very interesting. Just think what a Christmas present it would be for the British people if they could hear that JH had decided to relinquish his titles, albeit with one hand yanked up very tightly behind his back!
Oh well, a girl of almost seventy can still dream, can't she?
It makes me wonder why did she want to find a wealthy man in the UK? Why didn't she try for a rich American?
Didn’t Meg rave about how wonderful Ivanka Trump was in the Tig?
Well, yeah, but now she's eeeeevil. Plus she was probably trying to score freebies.
I think more people can see through her than she realizes.
It makes me wonder why did she want to find a wealthy man in the UK? Why didn't she try for a rich American?
Perhaps she thought that they (UK men) would be less likely to pull out a prenuptial approved by 4 attorneys? Seems unlikely to me that rich guys in any locale would be wandering around clueless about predatory women, though.
Then I learned about that card guy and the word "scattershot" and all that too.
I also saw all of you lost your damn minds but that's all I'll say about that, not sure Charade should have to wade back in there and weed that garden.
I suspect politics AT ALL is just the latest fad for Meghan's hamsterwheel of scattershot proposals. I've said before, if she were to face off against AOC she would lose horribly. Like her or hate her, AOC is a quick thinker and she says real things and expects real answers, she doesn't tirade word salad.
I would like to see that, I would love to see that. A fireside chat with AOC & MM, somehow I think it would go poorly with MM looking to throw AOC under the bus live on air, call me crazy.
I also suspect the Daily Mail is combing through the FF book for the worst possible excerpts and then posting them as promotional drivel - it promotes the book AND makes Meghan look bad - could this just be me?
@SW-I believe she got a handbag from Ivanka which she made sure to hashtag the hell out of.
Nobody. Nobody even KNOWs anything about them, nobody cares. I'm a freak for being as invested as I am. Most people believe the paper-level story that they escaped the BRF because the media was mean and now they live privately. That's all anyone really knows and beyond that, they do not care.
At all. It's quite amusing.
Markle's words won't matter one bit in the election, she is fast becoming someone to dismiss. Both of them, Markle and Harry, do nothing, complain, whine, and make deadly boring and patronizing speeches. Everyday they become more and more forgotten.
My guess is that she had her sights on Harry all along and just used the excuse of wanting a British man to get to him. She knew that Nonoo knew people who knew people. Knowing MM as we all do here, she was sure she could bag him if she even got close. He was an easy target.
@SwampWoman,
My guess is that she had her sights on Harry all along and just used the excuse of wanting a British man to get to him. She knew that Nonoo knew people who knew people. Knowing MM as we all do here, she was sure she could bag him if she even got close. He was an easy target.
*sigh* Probably. Well, she's got him now. Probably why she requires such a big house so that she won't see him often.
I’d be willing to bet $11 million that Markle is not registered to vote. Since I don’t have $11 million, I’m not out anything if I’m wrong, but my little inner voice tells me it’s very unlikely. I’ve heard it tossed around that she hasn’t voted for years; maybe has never voted, Including for the nations first biracial president in 2008 and 2012. Meg is such an egregious hypocrite that telling people that they’re complicit and complacent if they don’t vote, when all the while she herself has never darkened a voting booth Would be so in character for her.
Her last permanent American address would have been where… Trevor’s? Her dad’s? Even to request an absentee ballot from abroad, one must be registered In a US county and maintain a mailing address. Kind of like Harry with his counselor of state deal. If she registered in Los Angeles County, She’ll have to get that changed tout suite to Montecito...That has to be done no later than 30 days before the election in which one proposes to vote. That gives her about five weeks. Will she? That would be a good papp
walking photo opportunity for her. They also mail out postcards that you can send in, but with Meg being such a new homeowner, the board of elections probably won’t know she is there. Elections officials are too busy to read crap tabloids or attend her woke gibberish virtual summits. It be interesting to know which ID she proposes to use. Does she have a non-expired California drivers license? Her passport? The incumbent president and the first lady always turn up at the polling station...But of course Meg is much too famous to vote in person.
I was all excited about that bet until you said you didn't have the 11 million. (Isn't that about what they owe on the Russian White Elephant?) You may have had enough money to purchase the mortgage from Scary Russki and attempt to collect the mortgage payments.
Nah, your best bet would be to keep the insurance payments current and pray for an earthquake.
All snark aside, I'd be surprised if she every did ANY civic duties.
WBBM - also your comment about Camilla being the backbone when Charles isn't (once he ascends to the throne). First of all you're right and I don't think that would be a bad thing, she looks wise and wily.
But it also reminded me of The Windsors and how that's Evil Camilla's plot all along and so it makes me chuckle. In reality I think she would handle the position well if she were properly empowered.
She'd make a huge deal of registering in person for the PR, too, bringing the hired paps with her to show the world that she is he perfect citizen.
Here's hoping that Camilla will be the muscle behind the throne, as PP has been to HMTQ. I really like Camilla. I think she'd be a great person to get to know.
@SwampWoman - it's interesting to hear her lack of wedding relatives resonates more deeply in the South than it does up here (as it should). I don't think people in more urban environments find it as unusual because we move around more (?) I don't know.
It just isn't a good look. It looks as though either she's afraid they're going to get drunk and tell all about her past, or they're in prison again.
@hunter,
Here's hoping that Camilla will be the muscle behind the throne, as PP has been to HMTQ. I really like Camilla. I think she'd be a great person to get to know. She does look like she'd be a lot of fun and has a great sense of humor.
Camilla always has that little twinkle in her eye.
Ever since the attempted abduction of Princess Anne by a gunman in 1974, royal princesses-to-be, including Meghan, Kate and Diana, have been ‘kidnapped’ by the British special forces
It's worth reading for the following nugget:
In 1983, Princess Diana and Prince Charles drove to SAS headquarters in Hereford for their training session where something went wrong. They had to play hostages being rescued by SAS soldiers in what they nickname the Killing House building on their base. The SAS actually use live ammunition for this. But, during Diana’s training, a stray pellet from a grenade landed on the right side of her head, setting fire to her hair. Thanks to some quick reactions, she was saved from serious injury and just needed to cut her hair a little shorter to cover the damage.
It was the worst possible thing she could have done.
I'm sure it was done to cover her little lies that lead Handbag to say "the family she never had". And Doria fit her cry racism agenda, Thomas did not. Ironically she would have come out looking fabulous if she had invited her family, eccentric as they are. A biracial COUPLE (albeit divorced) watching their daughter enter into the BRF.
Problem family members would have been assigned a Palace baby sitter and would have been forced to behave themselves.
What better way to show how far you've come in life than that contrast (Markles vs. BRF).
What she did was actually expose herself as cold and calculating, in it for fame not love or family.
Her middle name must be "Backfire"!
I too thought she would vote for pap walk but she was in Toronto so long she would vote absentee. This year of course is sure to be overly dramatic , lots of flair and hair but she has to update her address with elections unless she never forwarded her mail to Toronto address
Great they just said on the news Laura might be a cat 3. Katrina landed as a cat 3.
I was wondering if the meteorologists had been licking bufo toads (there's one in my garage currently) when they were saying that it was coming in as a cat 1. I was looking at the gulf temperature, scratching my head, and wondering how they came up with THAT when Wilma went from Cat 1 to Cat 5 in 24 hours. Maybe they were/are expecting Marco to cool it down some.
Maybe load up the RV and head for Oklahoma. Apparently the storms do not care to go there. Probably too many tornadoes.
When I ran for office in 2018 the Registrar of Voters sent me a comprehensive Xcel document of all registered voters in my county. Home addresses, party affiliation and when they registered etc. It was invaluable as I walked my precinct door-to-door and could greet them by name and fashion my remarks according to what party they were associated with. In addition I was deputized to sign up new voters and loved doing this, especially as so may were 1st time voters and some had been paroled and did not know they had the right to vote.
I'm not sure how to humanely euthanize a big fat toad. I suppose I could give it a fentanyl patch if I had one. Maybe I can dump some liquor in a bowl, drop toad in, and let it expire in a drunken stupor, and sell the toad-infused alcohol?
I started thinking about the hallucinogenic properties of this toad, though, and perhaps I could send it to the Harkles along with a note about the 8-hour hallucinogenic trip from toad venom. They could invite their Hollywood friends and spend a convivial evening licking the toad. I could be a toad procurer for the stars. (I'd probably get in trouble from the state because I'm pretty sure that toad licking isn't considered humane.)
I admit that I encouraged the toad to seek shelter elsewhere in the garage, and pulled a Miz Scarlett (I'll think about toad euthanizing tomorrow).
@swampwoman, yeah, I may have to develop an evac plan, although traditionally we have just taken the kids and dogs and have gone to DH’s office at the hospital. We used to make forts under the conference room table, good memories.
Hey, your evac plan sounds good to me. They'll have their own generators, too. How's the hospital cafeteria food? How far from the water is DH's office building? Our hospitals seem to be either at the beach, on the river, or in the 'hood.
as for the royals, Sophie made a comment, did anyone else post this? https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020082395874/sophie-wessex-talks-meghan-markle-harry-royal-exit/
And with that, I am going to bed.
Have a good night's rest, and keep us posted about your safety! I'm going to turn in myself.
Sophie actually didn't say anything, but in a very nice way, except that she hopes that they will be happy. (She would have made a great diplomat.)
the project they were pitching to netflix was about making The Tig a program.
Whenever a “celebrity” takes a political side, it backfires. Usually 50% of your audience has a differing view and by being very clear with whom you align, you alienate the 50% that don’t agree with your view. Megs does not get it. She tries so hard to get herself involved in everything to stay in the spotlight but it always seems hurried and without thought. This endeavor will backfire as well.
So very true! I do not think that the professional sports organizations yet know how badly they have hurt themselves.
"played myself in a hostage/rescue situatin"
I'm not sure this will help Netflix's circling the drain status. I don't think we even watch Netflix anymore; perhaps I should ask husband why he still has it. He says for the grandkids, but they watch Dude Perfect and other YouTube shows.
good riddance. She closed that site. Years ago. She is 'royal' now.
Producers must be shaking their heads about her. How detached from reality she is. It's like the looks of everyone on the Lion King yellow carpet: Flabbergasted.
First to admit I lack finesse but I did not even think they made these anymore, or used them aside from smiley face eyes, (grin) ; <---
according to the new book "Left Out: The Inside Story of Labour under Corbyn” the Sussexes sent a personal note of “great thanks” to “Jeremy and Laura”.
It read: “Dear Jeremy and Laura. Sending our great thanks for the wonderful work of Mexican literature that you so kindly gave us at the Commonwealth Service; Sor Juna Ines de la Cruz is a fascinating historical figure, and we look forward to learning more about her life and works! Thanks for the support, Harry and Meghan.”
No duchess? Fugazi! ;)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12478271/jeremy-corbyn-meghan-markle-prince-harry-book-poetry-megxit/
I suggest you ignore each other and stop asking the moderators to delete messages you don’t like. If you don’t like it, move on. I see posts on here all the time that I don’t care for but I just scroll down. It’s not hard. When you get into these tiffs you are making the blog about YOU. If you want a blog about YOU, go make one.
@ Aquagirl - Please continue to comment. I really like your posts, however i don’t reply because I am usually two, sometimes three days behind reading Nutty’s blog. I had to ditch the last 400 messages on the last post or I’d never catch up. There are so many commenters here I enjoy,
HikakI
Hunter
Barbara from Montreal
Jocelyn’s Bellinis
There are many more, so don’t take umbrage if your name wasn’t mentioned. I’m so tired and my eyes are so gritty from all the smoke up here. The temperatures come down 20+ degrees in the last few days but the air quality is horrible. I hope it’s equally bad down at Casa de Harkle. The smoke might explain that filter over their zoom calls. I know exactly what was meant but the different lenses for Doris Day and Rock Hudson . Someone told me that directors would put a light smear of Vaseline for the effect. Meanwhile, for Sybil Shepherd I think they filmed her through a gym sock.
Girl - The Tig as a TV show - would that be a new version of "lifestyles of the rich & famous". I remember that show. I could see Megs doing something like that. Caviar & champagne. Travelling around to all the stylish places, world wide, in a private jet. Being the hostess with the mostest.
August 24, 2020 at 7:23 AM
There used to be a show that E! Network would put on late at night, called Taradise (it was also known as Wild On Tara!). It featured Tara Reid going to all the beaches and parties, etc. I think that would be more Meghan's speed. It's too bad E! decided that the amount of "cringe" that show generated was over the top, and cancelled it. This is what I would imagine any TigTV project would be. Just imagine the antics Meghan, Harry and Tara could get up to.
I'm not sure how to humanely euthanize a big fat toad. I suppose I could give it a fentanyl patch if I had one. Maybe I can dump some liquor in a bowl, drop toad in, and let it expire in a drunken stupor, and sell the toad-infused alcohol?
@Tatty: I am an avid gardener. I grow flowers for cutting. I am in the process of building a new raised bed, and instead of using Roundup or a similar product, I put down black plastic for a couple of weeks on the area for the new bed for a couple weeks. When I lifted up the plastic, I had three baby copperhead snakes that were living there. Even the babies can be venomous, so I was able to get them into a bucket, took them out to the street and one by one smashed each one in the head with a hammer. They didn’t know what hit em, so to speak.
I highly recommend the hammer method.
As for Nutty’s question about Meghan as a political influencer. I think she is grasping at straws trying to look relevant, but she looks silly. Yes, she is still an American citizen, but she married into the British Royal Family and she’s not supposed to be political. That’s just another kick in the teeth to her Majesty, the RF, and the citizens of the UK. She and Harry are digging a deeper hole for themselves for next year’s review.
As a woman who is nearly 40, I don’t think people in the 18 to 35 range, especially 18 to 30, pay much attention to her or Harry. The people who are her fans might go out and vote due to her urging, but I don’t think there are enough of them to have a huge effect on an election.
Meghan is doing this mainly for media attention and networking and schmoozing entertainment heavy hitters in hope of someone tossing a few bucks her way so she can buy organic diapers for Archie and flight time on a Gulfstream G-5.
As a woman who is nearly 40, I don’t think people in the 18 to 35 range, especially 18 to 30, pay much attention to her or Harry. The people who are her fans might go out and vote due to her urging, but I don’t think there are enough of them to have a huge effect on an election.
My daughter turns 19 next month, and the only time she mentions Cringe and Ginge is when I'm ranting about them to her. LOL
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Sconesandcream said...yummmmmm, remembering loads of scones and cream when I lived in Blighty, *sigh*
MM always strikes me as someone stuck in the past. Still thinking she is still in her 20s. MM is also well known for not having an original idea in her head. Has she decided to imitate Taylor Swift? In Oct 2018 TS reached out to her 112million insta fans and asked them all to vote. Despite a strong response from her fans, many of whom did decide to register to vote, the outcome wasnt what Taylor hoped for. Taylor is also known to reach out privately to her fan base, something MM has started doing in recent times with her vile uneducated fan base, whom i suspect are the same age as Taylors ie 18-29. (No criticism of Taylor intended). What age group does everyone think MM is marketing herself to?
Good question!
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August 24, 2020 at 8:45 AM
SarcasticBimbo said...
HappyDays said...
As a woman who is nearly 40, I don’t think people in the 18 to 35 range, especially 18 to 30, pay much attention to her or Harry. The people who are her fans might go out and vote due to her urging, but I don’t think there are enough of them to have a huge effect on an election.
My daughter turns 19 next month, and the only time she mentions Cringe and Ginge is when I'm ranting about them to her. LOL
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Yep! Doing my bit, with fellows, to assign the Harkles into oblivion, even tho it might mean the end of our tangents here.
Eh, Meghan is just, plain, simply pathetic. Almost not worth slagging her, I think to myself, in more cerebral moments. And then, I think ....
NAH.
Yep! Doing my bit, with fellows, to assign the Harkles into oblivion, even tho it might mean the end of our tangents here.
Eh, Meghan is just, plain, simply pathetic. Almost not worth slagging her, I think to myself, in more cerebral moments. And then, I think ....
NAH.
Now, that's the level of petty I love to see when it comes to the Harkles. But, I think that we, as a group, can all do better!�� ����
This is what it will take for those of us who care about the British Monarchy. Seems like people who care about "Markle" more than ACTUAL HISTORY matter more. Hoping this is not the case.
Petty? Hahahaha!
I will HAPPILY go *petty* from the moment I wake up, till the moment I go to bed.
Hey, Markle! You're a poseur! Is that petty enough? LOL
"Does Meghan's political involvement help or hurt the causes she supports?"
Interesting to read Nutty's thoughts and how about a little change to...
"Does Meghan's Involvement help or hurt ANY of the causes she supports?"
I think it's quite clear she only helps herself and couldn't care less about any cause. Cause do jour changes with the wind. Use and abuse in my eyes. She really is shameless as is JH.
So tired of MM and really wish their PR money would dry out soon. It is hard to avoid MM as she keeps inserting herself everywhere. Sigh. Is there an end in sight?
Makes me happy :)
I've been revisiting the music of my youth and stumbled across this gem that immediately made me think of Meghan. The almost sneering tone of his voice is perfect.
Kingmaker - High As A Kite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyApeCOKB6U
https://genius.com/Kingmaker-high-as-a-kite-lyrics
You must think you are beautiful
You must think you are it
You're such an enigma not like anybody else
You must think you are God
Oh how do you do it
You act so f**king strange
You must think I'm susceptible
Well you're up you're...
High As A Kite
You must think life is wonderful
You must live it to the full
Oh you're so different your eyes look like
They're sun dyed
You must think I'm dispensible
Well you're up you're...
High As A Kite
I'm gonna take you higher
Or maybe I'm a liar, maybe I am...
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Brief OT update on the pigeon: still no luck as yet, she's highly suspicious of the box and won't go near it. I'm persevering as she might get used to it being there and give it a go. RPRA said they couldn't help unless I had the info from the rings and offered the same advice as I'm already trying/have tried. Thank you again to eveyone who offered advice and kind words, you all know who you are :O)
@Swampwoman: the toad. I keep Whites Tree Frogs in a terrarium and remembered that I'd read some info way back that clove bud essential oil was recommended for humane euthanisation as it sends them to sleep. I'm thinking it could be something you might happen to have hanging around so no need to buy something specifically if you do. Did a quick Google and it's an acceptable method for toads also:
An alternative method for ensuring the toad is asleep
before moving it into the freezer is to place one or
two drops of clove bud oil on to the toad's skin. The
natural anaesthetic present in clove bud oil is easily
absorbed through the toad's skin and an average
sized toad will fall asleep within one or two minutes.
However, once again, it is essential that you confirm
toads are deeply unconscious by testing withdrawal
reflex to a toe pinch (or similar) before placing in the
freezer. It is essential that toads remain in the
freezer long enough to ensure death. They should
remain at -20ºC for at least 48 - 72 hours depending
on the size and number of toads present.
https://anzccart.adelaide.edu.au/system/files/media/documents/2019-07/an29022016.pdf
There are other methods included in the link, but the clove bud oil method seems to be an easier and more peaceful way of doing it than some of the others listed.
I could not find anything official from BP about a year review period. All media hype about this cited un-named Palace sources. My conclusion was that this was a 'wish' that the Sussexes spread through someone on their staff because they wanted to hold onto the royal link.
The Queen said they were beloved family and were welcome to return as such. Most royal family are not working royals. IMO the 'request' to not use the HRH made this clear. Despite all the PR put out by the Sussexes, they no longer represent the Crown or the UK. That is not going to change.
What if bankrupt and disgraced Sussexes return to the UK and beg to be given jobs as working royals? The shameless couple could try to do so but I doubt that HM, Charles or William would agree to that.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8657833/Amazon-restricts-reviews-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-explosive-new-biography.html
Amazon restricts reviews on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's explosive biography Finding Freedom after 'noticing unusual activity' amid a fan campaign to boost its rating
• Prince Harry, 35, and Meghan Markle's, 39, new biography faces restrictions
• Retailer Amazon have limited Finding Freedom to 'verified purchase reviews'
• Comes amid plea from Sussex fans to leave five star reviews on the biography
• Bombshell book recounts lead up to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal exit
My, my, what a surprise!
Jumping on the political bandwagon is because it is presidential election time in the US and politics is going to dominate media space and headlines. The Sussexes have nothing to compete with that and they both crave publicity.
What they could actually do is mobilise teams to assist people in getting registered and voting. But that is too much work for the Sussexes and pontificating in Zoom appearances seems to bolster their egos, even though viewership is declining from what was not a huge base anyway.
The Sussex show is entertaining though and is teaching us all a lot about narcissism, hype, values in culture, and so on!
Here's Google's translation (!) of the comment in German:
The entire book is a praise to Meghan. This is followed by Harry, who is also almost holy, but whose sensitive and easily excitable temperament has cracked. According to Finding Freedom the corresponding counterpart will be taken over by the royal family, especially William and Kate, from which Kate is still the worst. But Meghan has no mistakes and has never done anything wrong. On the contrary, in the book it is even described as perfect. So it can be assumed that the two authors are just Meghan's PR people and should try to wash their image clean. Maybe this would have worked if the events had been presented in a more balanced way and not one side had been praised and the other condemned. I don't even start from the writing style, it was very difficult to follow the whole thing, there were always jumps where you had to pause for a moment.
Unfortunately, unfortunately, the book is completely untrustworthy and I'm a little sorry for my money
`The resentment is oozing out of this pairs every orifice.'
`Tantrum after tantrum'
`What a load of Twoddle!'
`Rubbish!'
Hollywood and Celebrity have lost their shine. We have peeked behind the glitzy curtain in recent years and months and what we saw disgusted us. Narcissism, self obsession, sexual deviancy, criminal behaviour, parasitism, blackmail, bribery, and those are just the things I can think of from the top of my head.
MM is really really REALLY stupid. She seems to be a simpleton, there is no other explanation. She is late to a party that others have fled in droves. Cardi B is the star of this party now, and MM waltzes in fashionably late? It's comical.
What person in their right and would ever listen to any of these primitive idiots? People have not forgotten her dramatic declaration that she would not live in the US while Trump is potus, and yet, here she is!
I hope she continues endorsing Biden, and I hope Cardi B does so too, because just like the Dems are handing him a victory with them burning down cities, the endorsement alone by these two morons will make a lot of opal think.
p.s.: MM going on about feminism is particularly interesting, in light of her leaving a country in a huff, where a woman has been sitting on the throne for over 6 decades and doing an outstanding job at it too, and whom MM has absolutely trashed
It's actually on their own Sussex Royal site, the very first point on a long list of between the lines gripes and 'how dare she' statements.
https://sussexroyal.com/spring-2020-transition/
Apparently Harry at first refused, the Queen insisted, then he didn't want the press to know about it, the Queen insisted.......eventually they were allowed to announce it themselves. they did it in such a manner that they didn't actually leave themselves much wriggle room and made them selves look petulant and entitled.
Most of the tabloids and broad sheets then ran with their own commentary from 'sources' about what was in the agreement to review in 12mths.
It was a deliberate move by the Queen for her own and the Monarchy's benefit, so it couldn't be said that she didn't give then 101 chances to come to their senses.
Don’t discount the Queen as a dithering old lady ,I think she is playing a long game here. Something neither Diana nor Meghan ever learned to do. Gathering ammunition for the ‘review’ could be what’s happening. Give them enough rope, letting them shovel the shite until they are up to their necks in it, letting the public become more and more furious with them, while maintaining a regal silence in the face of their tantrums and slander, giving them no feedback, which goads them into more ludicrous videos and missteps.
Doing nothing in response to narcissists can work, in that it allows them to reveal more of themselves without being drawn into the merde oneself. In this case, though, it's a fine balance between succeeding in the tactic and being criticised for inaction.
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@Only me, hello :O) That's a fantastic idea! I do have some binoculars in a box somewhere, I'll have to dig them out and give it a go next time she comes back.
https://nuttyflavor88.blogspot.com/2020/08/has-finding-freedom-improved-sussexes.html?commentPage=3
(I don't know how to link to individual posts, the pigeon background is on this page in a couple of posts, you could always do a ctrl+f page search to find them quickly)
Apart from the Nutties, the only people I know who still care about Meghan are royal watchers on Tumblr who just want some closure to the nightmare.
I always got the impression the yearly review was real.....we live in hope it is!
I used to think that the The Royal families MO was to sit it out, play the long game was the best way, I am, as I’ve said before am most doubtful this is the best way now. It isn’t working in this era. Maybe there’s a ton of activity going on behind the scenes that we just don’t know about.....but maybe not. The hoped yearly review feels like a lifetime away and the Dubious Duo aren’t getting any quieter, Liver Bird an oracle of knowledge amongst us Nutties (by the way, I hope she okay!) always used to say.... The Crown always wins it feels less likely by the day (a few months on) :o/
Swift created organic interest for her political opinions through the release of her Miss Americana documentary earlier this year. And she made Big Machine Records the bad guy yet again by saying that the reason she had been so silent in 2016 was that her management discouraged her from speaking out. (Was Meghan trying a bit of this when she said "her husband" had never been able to vote in his life? No good as a strategy, though, not just because it's British politics he ought to be dabbling in then, but also because it puts the spotlight on him instead of her.) At the moment, Taylor's support of her preferred candidates is getting mixed reactions. Yet it will not hurt her in the long run, as she's a respected artist with years of hits to her name. What will Meghan have to go back to when this political circus ends?
Someone is doing an excellent job keeping Andrew out of sight, by the way. Not sure if this is the Queen or Charles.
Maybe it's Andrew's own sense of delicadeza?
I notice that Meg's defenders like to haul out Andrew's case again whenever Meg is being upbraided for something or other.
Ironically, Andrew is a great example of how easy it is for someone who was once in the limelight to fade into privacy, if that is what he/she really wants. And if it's actually not what Andrew wants, then it's just further proof that the Queen can get things done even when she doesn't have the full cooperation of recalcitrant members of her family.
She will be joining the fight against the cause du jour here, Structural Racism. We've moved on from just people being racist. Now, the entire structure is racist. Her "work" will be with teens. She doesn have what it takes to sit at the adult table.
I read a post previously about how the family and courtiers may be deliberately withholding news about the Dastardly Duo's missteps from HRH to spare her pain, I believe. I'm so sorry that I have forgotten who wrote it. I can see how painful it could be to realize that a beloved grandchild is a viper (or married to a viper) intent on inflicting venom on his family.
I can't help but think maybe, just maybe, like families of the mentally ill as well as substance addicted, they've had to cut him off for their own protection from his bad decisions.
The Skeptical Charitable PR Performance.
I shall flesh that thought out a bit more, if I may.
Perhaps the BRF had come to the realization that PH is every bit as volatile as Diana, maybe even more so. I think that they believe that he is going to die sooner rather than later due to either drugs, alcohol, or a combination. There are intense discussions going on about what can be done. They are in despair because they've done everything that they can do but he will not cooperate. Then he throws a tantrum about being half in and half out of the royal family because he believes his wife that they can be richer and more famous than his brother. The BRF realize that they've been given a gift. This is a way of getting him and his grasping wife out of all royal duties without being obvious or being accused of racism because it was their decision.
If he dies in California of an overdose, they will be sad. It can be blamed on Hollywood excess and a wife that led him astray. A few million in allowance a year, while it may seem excessive to us, may be a small sum to keep a big problem out of England.
Again, forgive me if this has already been discussed. It probably has.
Brilliant!
I have a vision of her in a high chair, as an adult, chucking her food back at Doris yelling `Shan't!'
Over to you, Artemis Goog!
@Swampwoman - Toads and Serpents - real in one post, metaphorical in the other! I shall stop there lest I venture into Sussex Squad territory, dangerous.
I couldn't cope with Florida wildlife, I have handled a boa constrictor, with a great effort of will, but was very glad to hand it back. You're a lot tougher than I!
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Assuming anybody takes notice of the Markles, I can't think it would help any cause at all.
I've just looked back at the member of staff at NorthWestern talking about her as a student, from 2017. He chooses his words very, very, carefully - reminds me of employers giving a reference for a rotten employee who's going for a new job. Nowadays, one can't be truthful, lest one is sued (but if you wish to get rid of them it's no good being too condemnatory.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpR41zu2acw
So many ambiguous phrases, eg `obviously majoring in drama' and `uses' comes up a lot.
I am beginning to wonder if perhaps the Queen might not be that upset with what MM&JH are doing. Happy, no but not upset. The Queen playing the long game vs playing a PR war with MM which could play into MM's hands.
The FF book is not really the bombshell book I thought it would be (I think Diana's was quite shocking?) and has not garnered sympathy that MM was hoping for. If MM follows in Diana's footsteps and gives an interview that might be the final straw.
The South Africa interview was excruciatingly contrived and it was only a couple of minutes? America's saw that interview much more favourably that Brits I think.
There is probably very little interest in America now for MM so she will have to come up with some surprises for a "bombshell" exclusive interview. MM is bidding her time and will give an interview most likely with Oprah but when is the question.
If the Harkles proceed in making really inappropriate political statements and actions, I am wondering if Members of Parliament might start officially making motions to strip their titles. This could happen specifically if Trump wins and the Harkles behavior has begun to ruin the "special relationship" between the US and UK.
Then HMTQ could simply be seen to go along with what the elected officials want and protect the RF from the racism charge.
What thinks the Nutty Crew?
She will devalue it to the point of Countess Luanne from Real Housewives. We all knew she wasn't really a countess in any real way.
My Blogger name is a relic from my Tolkien geek days in uni! I don't mind if people shorten it. :-)
The angrier the public is allowed to get, the happier people will be when the axe finally falls. Assuming it will, of course. But is the Queen really playing a long game here?
If the War of the Waleses was also a long game, then let's not forget who the real winner was in the end . . . Charles! By finally being allowed to marry Camilla, he got what he always wanted. And while I like Camilla, I do think Charles was rewarded for behaving badly.
I'm not saying the vicious press of the 80s and 90s haven't done long-term damage, but that Charles may think that since he was able to rise above it all once, he may be able to do so again. Back in the 90s, no one could have imagined Camilla on the balcony at Trooping the Colour. But look where we are now. I'm sure Charles believes that he can pull another PR miracle and have Harry and Meghan on the balcony again for Trooping when he is King.
Charles didn't want to marry Camilla. The Queen forced him to. He was quite happy to have her as his mistress/lover/companion.
Enbrethiliel,
Charles didn't want to marry Camilla. The Queen forced him to. He was quite happy to have her as his mistress/lover/companion.
Agree, but neither wanted to marry. Camilla was more than happy to do her own thing, she had the freedom without the obligations of being a senior royal that way.
I stand corrected on that then! And now that I'm restructuring my analysis around it . . . Wow, he really he is hopeless then, isn't he? Perhaps the only thing worse than marrying Camilla after all that would have been not marrying Camilla after all that, but still keeping her around.
So I still see Charles and Camilla's marriage as a kind of coddling of Charles. He couldn't be pressured to do the true right thing, so everyone adjusted themselves around him so that he could do something else acceptable. It just means he won in the end without having to earn it by growing as a person. And since he got his "happy ending" this way, I'm sure he feels Harry could have one, too.
I wonder if Camilla ever regrets her choice. If she is, it's hard to tell, though. She looks really happy during engagements.
Charles and Camilla are far from happy. It's said that he is so difficult, that she lives in a separate residence most of the time.
London: All may not be well between Prince Charles and his wife Camilla - the two are reportedly leading separate lives as she has been struggling to cope with the pressures of being a royal.
The Duchess of Cornwall regularly leaves her husband and escapes to her old country house at Ray Mill House in the Cotswolds where she is free from the red carpet world, Prince Charles' demanding ways, and being on show at public events, the 'Daily Star' reported.
Camilla revealed her secret getaways to her hairdresser confidante Jo Hansford, who has been with her for 20 years.
Jo said: "Ray Mill House is her escape. She likes to be in her own home. With that kind of life how can you ever be a normal person? He was born into it, she wasn't, she came into it much later in life.
"Why would he want to take on all her family, then feel uncomfortable being in another situation? That escape is fantastic from her point of view."
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In fact, Buckingham Palace officials are also "concerned" over 64-year-old Camilla's disappearing acts, which take place every 10 days. And, the 63-year-old heir to the British throne has discussed the issue with her, the newspaper said.
A royal aide said: "This is causing concern about the future. She goes off at least once a week or every 10 days to escape. Charles is worried and irritated and has spoken to her. But she thinks he is being unfair.
"He is used to getting his own way but Camilla feels that now, within reason, she is going to lead her own life. They are not talking about divorce, they are mature people. This is how they make their marriage work."
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/prince-charles-and-camilla-leading-separate-lives-report-469159
“Amazon restricts reviews on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's explosive biography Finding Freedom after 'noticing unusual activity' amid a fan campaign to boost its rating”
I wonder if behind the scenes Meghan, or more likely her PR firm or the book publisher, are in direct contact with key Harkle fans to encourage a fan campaign to improve the ratings for FF.
I recall Meghan was caught buying followers when she had The Tig before Harry. Macleans magazine on Canada ran an article that discussed Meg’s purchasing of followers, which is cheap and easy to do.
I suspect their Sussex Royal Instagram account purchased followers to compete with William and Kate’s account. The stories that they broke a world record for acquiring most followers on the first day is probably a crock of B.S.
Well, that answers my question! Thanks.
Surely she would have seen this coming when she agreed to marry him? Was there an option to break up, if they did it cleanly, or was it marriage all the way?
Charles is a difficult man and I think Camilla just married him because she felt responsible for causing so much trouble, as well she should.
I remember reading that is where Camilla sees her children and grandchildren.
Yes, thank you for corroborating what I had *thought* I read in the past. It must be nice to be able to walk around in casual clothes and cook breakfast for the family.
I went to look at the Amazon reviews a few days ago and there were definitely reviews from people who were not verified purchasers.
In fact, on Amazon UK they are still there.
Why Charles and Camilla are now living such separate lives
By RICHARD KAY and GEOFFREY LEVY FOR MAILONLINE
UPDATED: 11:10 EDT, 29 June 2010
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When the Duchess of Cornwall left Scotland and travelled south with a broken leg in plaster the other week, she chose to recuperate not at Highgrove, the marital home she shares with the Prince of Wales, but at Raymill House, her own home 17 miles away.
Three years ago, when she left hospital after a hysterectomy, she did exactly the same thing.
Most married women will find it very strange that a wife should eschew the warmth and helping hand of her husband at such a difficult time, but then, this is a very strange marriage.
Charles and Camilla
Tensions: Their relationship as lovers was idyllic - but since Camilla and Charles married, the strains have appeared
We are not talking about a constitutional crisis, or a split or separation between Charles and Camilla.
This is a story of two people whose relationship was idyllic while they were lovers for more than 30 years, but who have found things to be not the same since being advised to make what amounted to a marriage of convenience, as we shall explain later.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1290439/Why-Charles-Camilla-living-separate-lives.html
@swampwoman yes, DH and I live somewhat separate lives, which in part and IMO makes our marriage work. We are hardly at the same place at the same times, we vacation separately based on our separate interests etc. We make our own purchases without consulting each other....
But, when one of us needs to change up and spend more time with the other, we do discuss it (sometimes get the calendar out lol) and spend more time together. He has so many work commitments that he needs time to himself doing things he enjoys to refresh and recharge himself, which I understand.
I do understand Charles and Camilla’s arrangement. I also imagine her in her caftan with no bra lol cooking breakfast and sipping tea while gabbing with her friends on the phone or whatnot...
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Hard to say if she had little to no choice (as it appears to be), Charles always said she was a non-negotiable part of his life. If he really didn’t want to marry her...she could have stayed as his mistress and perhaps been happier I don’t like to assume she’s anymore unhappy married or not married. I know she insisted on keeping her own home so she could be near to her children and grandchildren, plus the fact he’s known to be moody, so she gets away for peace and quiet too.