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"Please don't look me in the eye": Meghan's new official portrait

 It's a staple of gossip columns: celebrity divas (and divos, to include the men) who insist that the peons around them refrain from making eye contact.

J-Lo, Neil Diamond, Nicole Kidman, Barbra Streisand and Bob Dylan are among the stars who insist on no eye contact, according to a long-running thread at DataLounge, and Ellen DeGeneres was also recently accused of refusing to make eye contact with her long-suffering staff.

Which brings us to the latest official photo from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. 

Photographed looking away from the viewer

The new photo is being compared to the Sussex engagement photo, perhaps because Meghan's head is slightly south of Harry's in both photos.

I find it more similar to one of the black and white wedding photos the couple chose to share. 

In both the new photo and the wedding photo, Meghan is looking somewhere else, away from the viewer. 

The wedding photo has her looking out of the frame (did she find somebody better? Maybe husband #4?), while the new photo has her looking bashfully, mid-laugh, towards her elbow on the arm of a chair. 

The new photo might have worked for a puff-piece layout in a 1990s edition of Vanity Fair or Vogue, but it is a spectacularly bad choice for its stated purpose, which is to promote the Sussexes' "Time 100 Talks". 

How can you talk to me, or talk to anyone else, when you won't look at me directly?

Looking away is a power move

Like refusing to make eye contact with the people who work for you, intentionally posting a photo in which you are looking away from the viewer is a power move.

"I don't need you," it says. "I have a fabulous life in which I am so terribly busy that I don't have time to interact with you, and I don't need your approval. 

"Ha ha! I'm laughing at a private joke. But...you wouldn't get it."

Why Meg won't ever be a politician

If you follow politics in the US or any other country, you'll notice the one thing that almost every official photo of a politician seeking election - right wing, left wing, or in between - has in common. 

The politician is posed to look directly at the viewer, simulating eye contact. 

I see you, the politician seems to say. I see your needs and concerns. 

Have you ever seen an official photo of a politician bashfully looking at his or her elbow and laughing?

Meg doesn't want to be equal

This is one of the many reasons I don't think Meg will ever become an elected official. 

She doesn't want to "see" people; she doesn't really want to know people, which is why she has so few long-term friends and most of her relationships appear to be transactional. 

Meg doesn't even particularly want to be liked, a desire that has driven countless celebrity careers, from Bill Clinton to Joan Crawford to Justin Bieber. 

Instead, Meg wants to be admired and envied. She wants you to acknowledge that she is better than you. 

Unsurprisingly, this doesn't sell well; most people aren't really looking for someone to envy. 

This is one of the many reasons Meg (and Harry's) career has never really taken off. 

Meg won't take advice

Another reason it hasn't taken off is that Meg seems incapable of taking advice. 

I find it hard to believe that someone on the Time 100 team didn't tell Meg that this photo didn't fill the bill for a series of Time 100 Talks, which are presumably a ripoff of TED talks.

Photos need to tell a story. This one should have been her and Harry eager to welcome some exciting new voices to the stage. Curious, energetic, listening, learning should have been the vibe.

Instead, Harry looks like a Vegas lounge singer on a break, and he seems to be gently laughing at whatever's being said. 

Not too encouraging for the Time 100 speakers pouring out their hearts or opening up about the ideas they have nurtured for a lifetime. 

Meg, meanwhile, isn't paying attention to the speaker OR the audience. She's got something else going on, something more interesting and much more entertaining. Sorry, Time 100 speaker!

At any rate, if someone suggested that this wasn't quite the right photo for the Sussexes to promote the event - as opposed to promoting themselves - that advice was ignored, as so much advice given to the Susssexes has been ignored in the past.

Comments

AnT said…
KCM1212,

The MoS “win” today is the judge’s refusal to throw out Finding Freedom from being included.

Now more work for M’s team. The legal invoices will grow and grow. Foolishness.


Miggy,

Great find — but god, how sad. Indeed, she is probably just hoping to drive her dad to death, or hopes that he will simply just curl up and die as he is such a huge inconvenience to her plans. I can’t imagine being in his shoes, seeing that he nurtured such a viper and ruined his life and future for it.

Hell is really going to have to devise a special annex for this girl.
Sandie said…
She's pregnant! Even though the virus did not stop her from ignoring social distancing and hugging folk when she was in the UK, and she was jetting to the US for a baby shower while heavily pregnant the first time, plus an official trip to Morocco, neither the judge nor MOS can risk opposing her request for this postponement.

That is why part of the hearing was private ...

Gosh, she is ruthlessly manipulative!

I may be completely wrong, but I don't think so.

I disagree with the tarot reader that the marriage is on the rocks and it is just a matter of the time before separation and divorce. She needs Harry. Although she is a supreme hustler, it is the once-popular prince who turned hs back on everything for a woman that is of interest and it is only her connection to him that opens doors for her. Also, he is a dream partner for a narc ... easily controlled, dominated and manipulated, plus he brings status and wealth to the table and she has removed all other influence from his life. Meghan also does not like being without a male partner and has always searched to hook up with the next before dumping the present partner, openly. It may not be a healthy or happy marriage, but it will last.

A girl this time? There is a procedure one can do to greatly increase the chances of having a girl. I know someone who had it done. If you have the money and local laws do not outlaw it, it can be done.
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

As I described above, it is common practice to go ahead and use material in a publication if you made every reasonable attempt to contact the copyright holder and you put a disclaimer in the publication (something along the lines of that you made every reasonable attempt and if the copyright holder should suddenly appear and make an objection the publisher commits to then do whatever is requested ... but the risk is very small and simply paying a reasonable user fee is what the courts would support, but depends on many factors).

If Thomas had tried to contact Meghan via text message and MOS had sent some kind of timely notice to the Sussexes' office, they would have a strong case that they made reasonable attempts to contact the copyright holder and if she belatedly objected, all they would have to do is issue an apology and remove the article. I don't think Thomas or MOS made any attempt to contact Meghan.

That People did not contact Thomas and give him a warning or right of reply is appalling but they gambled that he would not sue because he cannot afford to. They were right.
Sandie said…
Hope I am wrong about pregnancy. Not that she cared about restraints of being a full-time working royal, but imagine her pregnant without any restraints? Belly cupping and the smug look, plus all the woke leaks to the press from friends, would look mild!

By the way, the intuitive tarot reader days she is not picking up any pregnancy.
Miggy said…
In the Daily Mail now...

Judge delays Meghan Markle's privacy court hearing after she applies for postponement on 'confidential ground'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8893125/Judge-delays-Meghan-Markles-privacy-court-hearing-confidential-ground-application.html
`Nine months', presumably, is intended to sound significant... Apparently the bookies are taking it seriously, and she could well be playing `Double Your Money'.

The Dreaded Lurgi is going to run and run. We could be in yet another lockdown by then.
CookieShark said…
I don't get this strategy. She wanted a judgement, but now delays almost a year?
SirStinxAlot said…
Faux pregnancy, followed by faux miscarriage. Look how sympathetic the public has been to Chrissy Tiegen after her announcement. I don't know a single person that actually likes Chrissy, but they are very sympathetic. Megnut would try to milk that in every upcoming lawsuit they have going.
CookieShark said…
Even sadder, Sandie, that he is so broke allegedly because of her. So he can't even afford to defend himself apparently from the person who used all his money and is now trashing him in public. In addition to this it sounds like he is chronically ill.
Duncan said…
@Wild Boar

I'm just tuning in today for the first time and am in the process of deciphering what happened with the hearing.

I was wondering if you or any other poster from the UK could please tell me if there is some type of special unwritten "privilege" granted to royals in the UK court system?
For example, do they have some type of special "right" to a greater amount of secrecy placed over their lives?
I know their finances are not very transparent despite taxpayer involvement.

As an American, I don't even know how to phrase what I mean exactly - other than to call it the 'magical royal treatment'. Would it be normal for a member of the RF to be tiptoed around in these circumstances? I’m not talking about the Queen but the rest of the RF.
TIA
But surely is she's pregnant she'll need 10 months instead of 9? ~sips coffee~
Alex Belfield says she’s cancelled her privacy case (see below link), but I’m reading what other Nutties are and it’s delayed not cancelled. Her summary will be read on 12th January and then he will decide whether the case goes to trial in October next year.


https://youtu.be/Pke1yaiRqs8
^ if she's...

not is, sorry
KC said…
Sorry if this post is redundant...on Twitter @TourreBakahai posted comments on the Time O'hanion-Markle discussion:

"Markle being spectacularly out word-saladed, and she doesn't like it. She's itching to *say something clever* but it's just not there. Her nodding dogs aren't normally as assertive as this."

I know some wondered why O'hanion did it...he was not intimidated! Gave as good or better than he got, per Tourre.

She messed up her lines a couple times in the clip posted...persistent, g.otta give her that.

Sandie said…
I forgot the tour of Australia, New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga while she was pregnant with Archie!

Supposedly she wants a trial date not before 15 October next year.

The tarot reader is doing a quick channeled reading to find out if she is pregnant ...

Why has she been given so much time to prepare for submitting her case for a summary hearing?
KC said…
 Lurking With Spoon said...

But surely is she's pregnant she'll need 10 months instead of 9? ~sips coffee~

Zing! Maybe the seed is already set...
Miggy said…
@Puds,

Not sure if she has already complied with the order to hand over her social media a phone records, if she has something to hide again this is the best way out as is avoiding having to give evidence herself.

From the DM :

The duchess, who has missed the court's deadline to serve an updated 'reply' to the newspaper's defence, is also seeking to extend the deadline.

A document submitted to the court by the newspaper's lawyers reported that she had breached a court order for missing the October 21 deadline. She now has until November 13 to submit her re-amended reply.

The lawyers said: 'No or no good explanation has been given for this state of affairs.'

Meghan's lawyers have asked the High Court for disclosure of evidence, such as emails and texts between her and her friends to be delayed until next August.

Both sides in the case have a duty to disclose relevant documents such as messages and emails to the other side.

Meghan was originally given a deadline of 6 November to provide these.
Duncan said…
@UK Folks or anyone who knows the answer...

I have another question!

I just read this comment on the DM article:
"More legal fees for the tax payer".

Do UK taxpayers fund the court system and if so could this be something else to hold against Markle - her using the British court system for personal gain/feuds/branding/netflix documentary at the taxpayers' expense?


KC said…
@Sandie,

"Hope I am wrong about pregnancy. Not that she cared about restraints of being a full-time working royal, but imagine her pregnant without any restraints? Belly cupping and the smug look, plus all the woke leaks to the press from friends, would look mild!"

Agree to hope. But...but, where is she going to go, to pull back the coat for the Constant Reveal?? πŸ€”πŸ˜ She had a schedule of engagements before. Guess she will be "dropping in" and "stopping by" and pap-walking all over the place.
@Sally1975 re court case

I would assume the Duo are paying. It’s a private case bought against the MoS so not a cost to the British tax payer. That said, I hope the court costs aren’t passed to Charles...he might use it as an excuse as ‘expenses’ (I don’t think that’s even legal) and claim it back off his taxes.
Blogger Sally1975 asked...


`... please tell me if there is some type of special unwritten "privilege" granted to royals in the UK court system?'

I don't think so! Anne's been fined for speeding, more than once, as have others of the family. Like any other person, they may avoid a Court appearance if they plead guilty beforehand. Edward VII appeared in a divorce case.

Each case is judged on its merits (or otherwise!) In the bad old days, pregnant women were not hanged until after they'd given birth. I suspect any woman, in a `delicate' condition/ case, might be allowed this if the press was likely to indulge in a feeding frenzy. We're only guessing that she's said she's preggers (whether she's telling the truth or not).

Of course, we mere mortals probably couldn't afford the extra legal fees involved in asking for an adjournment and would probably just have to grit our teeth & get on with it. It was forced on me once, because we ran out of time and had spent the day waiting (previous case had taken for ever), and my barrister was committed to another case the next day. Just like your builder clearing off for another job... That was £600 down the drain, at 1984 prices, and a wait of 18 months at least.

Getting entangled with a narcissist isn't only damaging to one's mental health but it's bl**dy expensive.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/29/duchess-sussexs-high-court-privacy-trial-adjourned-confidential/
Duncan said…
Does anyone know whether the Royals have some sort of unspoken extra protection of their privacy? I'm trying to wrap my brain around why MM would be allowed to start this suit, miss deadlines and control much of the narrative and then be allowed such a huge delay, a possible summary judgment, and total secrecy?
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Sally1975 said...
I was wondering if you or any other poster from the UK could please tell me if there is some type of special unwritten "privilege" granted to royals in the UK court system?
For example, do they have some type of special "right" to a greater amount of secrecy placed over their lives?
I know their finances are not very transparent despite taxpayer involvement.

As an American, I don't even know how to phrase what I mean exactly - other than to call it the 'magical royal treatment'. Would it be normal for a member of the RF to be tiptoed around in these circumstances? I’m not talking about the Queen but the rest of the RF.
TIA
Duncan said…
Nelo said...
Justice Warby may likely rule in her favour for a Summary judgment. That's what lawyers on Twitter are saying.
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@Nelo
Could you please provide a link to the Twitter discussions?
I'd like to read them.
Thanks.
abbyh said…

Sally1975 - maybe the super injunction?

I don't know that much about it but I know it exists and does some protecting of them.

What I wonder about this latest turn of events is:

Could the BRF use this in some way at the review? about money not going to pay or something?
Duncan said…
Raspberry Ruffle said...
@Sally1975 re court case
I would assume the Duo are paying. It’s a private case bought against the MoS so not a cost to the British tax payer. That said, I hope the court costs aren’t passed to Charles...he might use it as an excuse as ‘expenses’ (I don’t think that’s even legal) and claim it back off his taxes.
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@Raspberry Ruffle
Thanks for the reply.
I guess I meant the general funding of the overall court system. Doesn't payment for the judges, clerks, court security etc come from taxes?
I have a feeling that some costs for this case are coming out of taxpayers' pockets in some way or another, and since we don't know how much Charles is involved - maybe in more ways than one.
Opus said…
It is a comparatively easy matter to commence a Civil action but as The Duchess is perhaps realising it is considerably more difficult to exit from one. She who rides a tiger....

The delays of the law are the stuff I seem to recall of which W.S.Gilbert once wrote but it seems to me that allowing a nine month delay for the commencement of the trial in an action long ago commenced and for confidential reasons brings the suspicion to us commoners that the Duchess is being given privileged treatment by reason of her being married to the sixth in line. This brings the law into disrepute and encourages Republicanism.



Grisham said…
It’s very significant and in her favor that the judge is allowing a summary judgement hearing in January.

Sandie, Archie was born in 2019. The pandemic didn’t start until early 2020.
Duncan said…
Thanks, Wild Boar!

I'm just perplexed as to why MM is getting favored so much with this case when she is the one who started it. And it clearly was started for personal gain.
The idea that she is being indulged for any reason whatsoever is just gross!

The only thing I can think of that would warrant such "favored" treatment from the judge would be if she told him she is critically ill. Perhaps she has cancer or some other major illness? I can't see a pregnancy even with covid, being used successfully as an excuse.

Some posters on LSA are saying that if she did use pregnancy as a reason then she would have to have submitted proof of some sort. But even if she is carrying another pillow, they have multiple places to stay in England and the ability to use private jets to get there.

Could the Queen / Prince Charles have stepped in? Maybe in an effort to avoid any more embarrassment to the firm they have unfortunately supported MM's vile case and efforts to control the narrative.

It's all very strange - as usual for the World of Megalo.

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@Abbyh
re a super injunction. I think we had guessed there was one in place regarding her Archie pregnancy but I don't think anyone knew this for certain. Perhaps there is a new one?
Button said…
@Opus
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I agree with your statement that Markle is being given special dispensation because of whom she is married to. I also would not be surprised if Justice Warby does indeed grant her a Summary Judgement. As I mentioned in a previous post the aristos and those with money have one law and the rest of us have another.
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It could be that the Royal Family, or perhaps The Queen herself is having ' strings ' pulled on behalf of the Harkles. Perhaps the Royals do not want this to go to trial and have Markle up there blabbing something they would prefer to keep quiet. Whatever the reasons, the Harkles are going to be much more smug and insufferable.
Hikari said…
Ah, Jaysus . . if she's pregnant, I may hurt myself. I really can't go through that again.

Or perhaps she's 'pregnant' again, via an intermediary, with no nasty RF to interfere. But . . .Covid. With things being what they are in California, how easy is it to get completely elective fertility treatments?

I doubt strenuously that she is pregnant, either herself or via surrogate. Subsequent children do not make the splash of the first (as Harry well knows) and the only reason anyone would be interested in a second baby is if they were still in the Firm. Her belly-cupping jaunts are going to be severely curtailed with all events of the type she used to attend as a Royal cancelled and another lockdown looming. Belly-cupping on Zoom from their rented living room wouldn't be nearly as satisfying to her . .no reactions to gloat over . .but she'd still try it. No doubt she's got her moonbump wardrobe on standby. It would be a top-notch stalling tactic, to claim pregnancy and buy time. Her lawyers could have bought time less dramatically by asking for a continuance, though probably not as much as that. I could totally see her trying this ploy, and worrying about producing a baby later, when the deadline is up. It's what she did last time. 9 months from now is July 2021. She'd have to be approaching a second trimester now for that to be even adequate time . . .she'd have a newborn who would be too small to fly to London . .breastfeeding ...!! Would she stage another fake birth and then get the case continued further . . until a year from now or even into 2022? Perhaps the judge would compel her to testify via videolink, with a representative of the court present to supervise.

If Meg had just let this go, it would have been forgotten by now. She expected a quick payday out of the MoS and is finding out it's not going to be that easy. All this stress isn't good for the baby!!!!!!
Sally1975 said, I guess I meant the general funding of the overall court system. Doesn't payment for the judges, clerks, court security etc come from taxes?

Yes, they are of course paid by the tax payer but that’s a given thing for any court case. It’s the legal fees that can sometimes be paid by the tax payer (legal aid for certain cases/people) and that’s when it’s a moot point at times. Not with this case though. ;o)
Button said to Opus, I also would not be surprised if Justice Warby does indeed grant her a Summary Judgement.

She has today been granted a summary to be heard on 12th January, that’s when we will hear if the case will go to trial or not.
With COVID in mind we all might have better and bigger things to worry about in January. :o(
The legal systems in both the UK and USA allow for almost unlimited 'continuances' in lawsuit cases.
All the plaintiff has to do is register a personal sob/drama narrative story and it's a shoe in. She could have given myriad reasons why January won't work, and delayed to rush the judgement so she can escape this nightmar all together. The lawsuit basically blows up any narrative she was trying to use to bolster her reputation, pocketbook, or Harry- narrative anyway. Looks like she knows this now.

I always thought it was used as a way to convince Charles she is a victim in the UK, so that they can stay half in and out, but live elsewhere for her 'mental safety'. Getting a judgement in her favor would have bolstered this argument between her and the BRF powers.

Charles has the precedent of obtaining a summary judgement against MoS from years ago when they published his diaries.

She's using this case for the BRF full-stop. Look Charles I'm just like you!!! Hand us your money!!!

Meghan, though, over-sued beyond the copywrite claim.

Anyway, if I was a guessing woman, and a summary judgment is not allowed or only allowed on one count, then I wouldn't imagine seeing this go to trial even next year. I've seen court cases postponed for years, and none of it will be good for Meghan so she has every reason to delay forever. Which is probably the right tactic for her at this point.

It was idiotic of her to sue a corporation who has unlimited legal resources, due to insurance, for these matters.

Now, when is someone (netflix) in the US going to sue Meghan and Harry? You know it's coming!
Duncan said…
Raspberry Ruffle said...
Sally1975 said, I guess I meant the general funding of the overall court system. Doesn't payment for the judges, clerks, court security etc come from taxes?
Yes, they are of course paid by the tax payer but that’s a given thing for any court case.
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@RR
It really is just so horrid how she wastes taxpayers' money in so many ways!
All the court antics, delays, hearings, etc is money wasted over this woman's ego and bizarre personal agenda on both sides of the pond!
Button said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle,
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Yes I know. She has been granted a summary to be heard, and I will not be surprised if Justice Warby tosses the whole thing out in Harkles` favour.
Sandie said…
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13056362/meghan-markle-never-text-thomas-no-phone/

Surely she is not saying that her father did not have a cellphone? Is she blatantly calling him a liar and a fraud?
Duncan said…
@Button
I see we both posted theories about the Queen getting involved at the exact same time!
I guess at this point I won't be surprised if the summary judgment is granted.
I just don't understand how or why the MOS would stand by and allow this without a fight. If the case has gone this far AND the judge allowed the book to be included in the MOS' defense then they must have determined that there was a triable case. How could they possibly rule for a SJ unless new information was brought forward?
Maneki Neko said…
Like CookieShark, I don't understand MM's strategy or what she has to gain by it.
Whatever the reason is, this only shows how heartless she is as regards her father. I'm sure he'd like the whole thing to be over and done with.

A couple of points that are not clear:

1. Mr Justice Warby today said he had considered the request and granted the delay until autumn next year - adding the 'primary basis' on which the adjournment was sought was 'confidential'.

What is so 'confidential'? If she's 'with child', is this a strategic pregnancy in order to attract sympathy? Followed, as SirStinxAlot said and exactly as I thought, by a 'miscarriage'. In which case, there won't be any need for such a long postponement.
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2. The duchess, who has missed the court's deadline to serve an updated 'reply' to the newspaper's defence, is also seeking to extend the deadline.

A document submitted to the court by the newspaper's lawyers reported that she had breached a court order for missing the October 21 deadline. She now has until November 13 to submit her re-amended reply.

The lawyers said: 'No or no good explanation has been given for this state of affairs.'
Indeed.

I can't remember anything about the court order and the deadline. I wonder if there will be some excuse to delay proceedings again. I'm waiting for the next Harry Markle to see what she makes of this latest news.
Sandie said…
https://talkingtarot.tumblr.com/post/633328655228076032/thanks-for-looking-out-for-me-guys-i-channeled

If anyone is interested in the channeling and tarot reading about Meghan being pregnant.

Inconclusive!
Enbrethiliel said…
@Cookie Shark
I don't believe she has ever been subject to the same paparazzi harassment as Diana or Kate were.

That is what sticks in her craw. I don't think anyone is ever as interested in her as she wants them to be.


This is so true. She had some organic interest at the beginning, from the engagement period leading up to the wedding. But the paps and the people have primarily been happy to leave her alone. (If Chelsey and Cressida had known this would be the case . . . On second thought, they would probably still have dumped Harry for his poor character.) Meghan is the anti-fairytale Princess Who Had No Paps.
Duncan said…
@Maneki
Could that court order have been the request to turn over her phone records?
@Button,

I think most are surprised the judge allowed a delay, even if she gets a summary judgement in January doesn’t mean she wins the case. I believe Charles lost his private letters case (written to ministers etc) as it was in the public’s interest to see what he wrote.
Sandie said…
@tatty

I am aware of when Achie was born and when the virus started. In her privileged position, she is able to take extra measures to protect herself and an unborn baby (private jets, chauffer-driven cars, a home in the & UK in the park of a protected royal estate ...).

I may be wrong about a pregnancy (see my link to the channeled reading).

Does anyone have any ideas as to why such a long postponement was granted, for the hearing about a summary judgement and for the trial?

She really does not want a trial with friends and Scobie testifying!
Maneki Neko said…
I'd been thinking of changing my avatar and noticed a couple of Nutties have changed theirs. I like this photo Megs, it shows the real one instead of the 'sweet princess'.

@Magatha

Love 'Ascent of the bogan' but are you sure it's not 'decline'?
Opus said…
Jarndyce -v- Jarndyce
Maneki Neko said…
@Sally1975

@Maneki
Could that court order have been the request to turn over her phone records?
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I wish I had an answer for you. It can't be a stalling strategy as she would only delay the inevitable and why for a year? Nothing is ever clear and/or straightforward with madam.
Maneki Neko said…
@Puds

I wish I could have added a broomstick. I'm sure all you Nutties have seen the photo before so I hope it won't give anybody a fright πŸ‘Ώ.
Button said…
@Puds,
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I am in the pillow camp. I do not think she ever was pregnant, hence she could not possibly give birth. As for a sibling for Archificial, I don't believe for a moment that this odious couple have a child with them. The only illness that the markles are suffering from are greed and narcissism. I would include selfishness, manipulation, lack of empathy, pathological lying, the list can go on. However I believe these traits are included in the ' narcissism ' bundle.
Sandie said…
Is the Sun article a messed up piece of rubbish?

Yes, Thomas Markle does have a cellphone.

No, Charles does not have and cellphone.

Charles sued when parts of his private diary were published. I think he was successful.

Apologies for muddying the waters with this, but the article dies seem to quote from Meghan's submission at this hearing.

Very confusing!
Sandie said…
Oh, FF claims Harry sent a message to Charles, but Charles does not have a cellphone.

Mea culpa!
@Sandie,

The Sun like The Express are extremely poor specimens of so called newspapers. I don’t read them nor believe what’s written in them.
Duncan said…
Here is the latest from the London Times which has more info about Thomas.
I'm wondering if they will end up ending the suit with a summary judgment and use his health as part of the decision to do so:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/meghans-lawsuit-postponed-though-father-could-die-tomorrow-kxpl05tb5

Part 1

Meghan’s lawsuit postponed, though father ‘could die tomorrow’

Valentine Low
Thursday October 29 2020, 5.00pm

The Duchess of Sussex has won a postponement of her privacy court case against The Mail on Sunday despite her father’s fears that he “could die tomorrow”.

The delay, which is for a “confidential” reason, means that the hearing will be put off by at least nine months, from January until the autumn.

A judge granted the postponement even though Thomas Markle, 76, who is planning to fly to London to give evidence against his daughter, said that he was in poor health and wanted to get the case over with “as quickly as possible”.

The duchess, 39, is suing Associated Newspapers, publisher of The Mail On Sunday and MailOnline, over an article which reproduced parts of the handwritten letter she sent to her estranged father in August 2018.

At a High Court hearing in London, attended online by lawyers and the press, Mr Justice Warby agreed to adjourn the trial, which was due to start on January 11, until October or November following a private hearing.

The judge said that the private hearing was necessary to protect “the confidentiality of the information relied on” by Meghan in her application to postpone the trial.

The confidential information was said by the judge to be the “primary” reason for the duchess wanting the case to be adjourned. Her application was not opposed by The Mail on Sunday. However, the newspaper’s lawyers did ask the judge to consider Mr Markle's situation, saying he is “elderly and sick” and wants and intends to give evidence at trial.

Elizabeth Hartley, the company’s legal director, said in a statement that Mr Markle was “an important witness who is elderly and has issues with his health but who is nonetheless currently expecting to give evidence at the trial”.

She said that the newspaper’s legal team was concerned “that if the trial was adjourned for a year Mr Markle might not be in a position to give evidence at the adjourned trial, especially given the heightened risk to health posed by the Covid pandemic”.

She said that Mr Markle had told her last Friday, after Meghan had submitted her application for an adjournment: “This case is causing me anxiety and I want to get it over with as quickly as possible. I am 76 years old and as a result of my heart condition and surgery I am on blood thinners which have had an effect on my breathing. I am unable to walk far or up many stairs. I can’t manage to take more than 30 or 40 steps without getting winded and needing to slow down until I have caught my breath.”

He also said he was clinically obese and did not know whether he had cancer as he had not been back to hospital. “I don’t know what the position will be in several months’ time,” he said. “None of my male relatives has ever lived beyond 80 years of age. I am a realist and I could die tomorrow. The sooner this case takes place the better.”

She said that he had approached The Mail on Sunday journalist Caroline Graham because of a “misleading” article in People magazine in which a friend of Meghan’s referred to the letter she had sent her father. “He continues to feel that he has been misrepresented and that the claimant should not be pursuing this claim. He is anxious that he should have his day in court so that he can tell the truth in public, have his evidence tested under cross-examination and defend himself against the suggestion that he breached the claimant’s privacy without any reasonable justification.”
Duncan said…
Part 2

Ruling that the trial should be delayed, the judge said: “The right decision in all the circumstances is to grant the application to adjourn.”

He said that other reasons put forward by the duchess’s legal team in support of the postponement included her application for summary judgment, a legal step which would see the case resolved without a full trial. No one, including the duchess or her father, would have to go into the witness box.

The judge said that the application for summary judgment would be heard in a two-day hearing in January. He turned down an application by her lawyers to appeal against another judge’s ruling which allowed the newspaper to rely on Finding Freedom, an unauthorised book about the duke and duchess, in its defence of the claim.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sally1975
Quoting the London Times: "Meghan’s lawsuit postponed, though father ‘could die tomorrow’"

I'm starting to worry that this is exactly what Meghan is waiting for.
Duncan said…
@Enbrethiliel
I certainly would not rule that thought out when it comes to Monster Megalo. What is puzzling is the MOS rolling over.
Duncan said…
Hikari said......
Perhaps the judge would compel her to testify via videolink, with a representative of the court present to supervise.
............
This is a good idea. Both the Harkles and the MOS have money - why not fly a member of the court over to Mudslide Manor to conduct a Zoom participation for the trial?

Does anyone know whether she could drop this case if she wanted to? There has been some question and debate about that in the past.

@AnT - would your husband know whether MM would be allowed to drop the suit at this point and what that could possibly result in (fees etc)?
@Sally 1975

It’s hard to decipher the reasons for the delay. It could just be a delaying tactic to buy Megsy time, but I can’t see the judge repeatedly allowing that. The MoS said it was a matter for the judge as for the delay. Maybe the MoS have an idea of the outcome already.

Under English law, Megsy can’t drop the suit unless the MoS agree to it too.
Girl with a Hat said…
Best comment seen on twitter. If Harry and markle have a daughter:

They are going to combine 'Diana' with 'Doria' and name her 'Diarrhea.
I stated this earlier, but I'm seeing more comments not understanding how Meghan can get the judge to delay the case due to a personal reason
Or why meghan would want to delay the case

I answered above but you can give a very basic personal reason and a continuance is granted. Court cases can be and sometimes are delayed for years.

Because this case most likely will not go in Meghan's favor, she has every reason to try to get a minor quick win judgment prior to the BRF review in Jan or March. If the case is continued to next year, and it's not in her favor, delaying it indefinitely is a smart move since she is trying to rehab her reputation and stay in the press.

She's not pregnant. I think she's done with kids. Archie didn't work out the way she hoped, whatever story or way that was, and now she's reliant on a guy that doesn't know how to make money supporting her.
Hikari said…
@Maneki

2. The duchess, who has missed the court's deadline to serve an updated 'reply' to the newspaper's defence, is also seeking to extend the deadline.

A document submitted to the court by the newspaper's lawyers reported that she had breached a court order for missing the October 21 deadline. She now has until November 13 to submit her re-amended reply.

The lawyers said: 'No or no good explanation has been given for this state of affairs.' Indeed.


So, we can see what's going on here. Meg has NOT complied with the judge's order to submit her email/text/call logs and whatever else this 'reply' to the defence is supposed to consist of. She can't/won't submit these as they are incriminating. She's like a kid who's failed to turn in her homework assignment (multiple assignments) and has been granted an extension--despite having 'no good explanation' for her failure to turn in her homework.

Harry claims that the official letter to him from Lord Dannatt of Her Majesty's Army was likewise 'lost' . .or maybe one of the dogs ate it?
Duncan said…
@Not Meghan Markle
I hope she's not reading here! We don't want to give her too many ideas nor support her decisions!😁
KC said…
Maneki Neko said...
I'd been thinking of changing my avatar and noticed a couple of Nutties have changed theirs. I like this photo Megs, it shows the real one instead of the 'sweet princess"

Yes, in that pic she looks like Leona Helmsley,known as the Queen of Mean. She married for love and money. Her wealthy husband whom she did really love bought her a hotel chain which she converted to a luxury chain and ran successfully. But she was disliked, and she apparently told her tax accountant taxes are for the little people. She was profiled on 60 Minutes. Then she went to prison on tax evasion. When she died she left a couple million to her little dog Treasure, the only friend she could depend on, she had said.

Sorry, a trip down the goldigger's lane.....
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

Love your new avi, perfick!!

“DeScent of Madness” Ordure Toilette
Magatha Mistie said…

@Puds

Forgot about “Hyperbolic Asserter” hahaha!!
As for Megs breeding Narclings, yikes
A “Niggle of Narcs”
Mel said…
So who was she texting the night before the wedding when she said she couldn't stay up all night pressing send?
@ Puds

Thomas showed his mobile and messages on it to the journalist who had written the article. The journalist also confirmed that when Thomas tried to dial the number from which she had contacted him the number was disconnected. I don't know why she hasn't burst into flames for all her lies yet.

If I were the lawyer for MoS I would make sure I had Thomas's full testimony in writing just in case.
Enbrethiliel said…
@Sandie
Oh, FF claims Harry sent a message to Charles, but Charles does not have a cellphone.

If one of Prince Charles's staff has a cell phone, and family members are accustomed to texting Charles through him, perhaps the authors could say they simply chose concise over clumsy wording?

But I wonder how much this and other blatant inaccuracies actually help Meghan. Couldn't she argue that there was no way she and Harry were the sources, otherwise "goofs" like this would never have made the final cut?
Miggy said…
@Puds,

"Isn't there film footage of Mr Markle and his mobile phone."

Well, I may be wrong... but I'm sure that's a mobile phone I can see in his shirt pocket in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puk8-8e0WLk
Soho Fedora said…
@Sandie said... Hope I am wrong about pregnancy. Not that she cared about restraints of being a full-time working royal, but imagine her pregnant without any restraints? Belly cupping and the smug look, plus all the woke leaks to the press from friends, would look mild!

@KC said... Agree to hope. But...but, where is she going to go, to pull back the coat for the Constant Reveal?? She had a schedule of engagements before. Guess she will be "dropping in" and "stopping by" and pap-walking all over the place.


After the wedding I absolutely expected that if/when MM got pregnant she would find a way to be papped in her bikini while on holiday. Both Kate and Diana were pictured in tabloids this way and I was sure MM wouldn't be able to resist. The fact that this never happened during the ten months she was carrying Archie is one of the many things that make me question the whole mysterious first pregnancy. Its apparent that she is no stranger to staging pap shoots or using photoshop (if she was self conscious about her body at the time or didn't want to be compared to pregnant Kate). IF MM is pregnant with baby #2 she can belly cup and coat flick the moonbump all she wants but until a bathing suit photo leaks (maybe someone else she can sue yay!) I'll have a tough time believing it.

Oops! My user name says unknown, long time reader first time poster here...how do I get it to show up?

-Soho Fedora
abbyh said…
First, make sure you have a gmail account. I recommend using a unique gmail to this blog for extra security and to avoid doxxing.

Second, search Google Accounts. You will land on the page where you can sign into and make updates to your account. If you don't have a gmail, you will be prompted to create one.

Third, go to the Personal Info tab. In the Profile section, you can click on "Name" and change to whatever you like.

Whenever you are logged into your Google Account, your name should post to the blog.
(thanks charade)
lizzie said…
One of M's court filings contained texts sent to Thomas. Obviously he has a cell phone.

I assume Charles's staff carry cell phones and that is a way for people in the know to reach him. When H was going to release his stupid rant in 2016 about M and racism when they were dating, he gave Charles 20 min notice. Charles was in the Middle East to meet with the King of Bahrain, an important trip. I doubt they called the switchboard at the palace to reach him.
About Charles not having a cell phone: he certainly had one in the past. The CBS article below speaks about Camilla and Charles being possible victims of phone hacking

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-charles-camilla-may-have-had-phones-hacked/


Perhaps Charles has a complete aversion to cell technology since then but how likely is that? Even the Queen has a cell phone, which is encrypted with the same technology the secret service uses.

I bet Charles in on the special protection list too just like mommy and carries a special edition cell phone.
Duncan said…
Yes! The Nutty Sleuths are on the ball!

@Fairy Croc - I too remember Thomas talking all about his cell phone in interviews. I believe there is video of him speaking about this.
________________

Puds said...
@Sally 1975, Apparently the MOS was only given notice 4 days ago about the request for a Summary Hearing and I guess they needed to hear Megan reasons for asking for a Summary hearing, they may also have had to digest whatever reason Megan gave asking for the nine
month delay. They have until, is it,Jan 11 hearing to get together their response and any evidence as to why they want a full hearing. That evidence may be in the Direction's order Megan seems not to have complied with and handed over her phone and media accounts for the specified time.
.............

I hope we get to see at least some of the court documents from this latest hearing.
I'm not surprised that MM doesn't want to hand over her phone records but I am astonished that she would dare to NOT comply!
Opus said…
I see the nine month delay is being attributed by some to the possibility of a pregnancy. That sounds most unlikely. The adjournment is really only of six months duration because the courts close for August and September reopening in October for the Michaelmas Term. What that reason, one agreed to by the defence, might be I do not know but my thought veers more toward reasons of state.
How are we going to last out until the denouement? Will there be anything new to say?

I'm exhausted.

One last go for today - might a Summary Judgement just confirm that a breach of copyright occurred but the full hearing for the privacy aspects will happen later?

My final divorce hearing from the narc was held in camera, him, me, our solicitors and the Recorder (a solicitor or barrister appointed as a part-time judge - no wig or gown), sitting around a table.

-Perhaps the court was sick of his grandstanding in open court. I didn't ask for it. The upshot was that after almost 8 years of trying, I was free of him. (That was in late 1989. He died in 2016 and I send for a copy of his death certificate so I had in black and white. That's what narcs do to you.)
punkinseed said…
I just read the blind gossip about a prominent man being very cruel and violent to sex workers. My guess is that it's Harry based on the clues including the notes to wife, referring to Megsy's idiotic notes to sex workers she wrote on bananas.
But, wait, there's more that occurred to me that is NOT in the clues:
Remember when Tom Markle warned Harry to not be violent or ever hit Megs? At the time he said that it was so out of the blue, out of context and confusing, but now it makes far more sense. This indicates that Tom Markle knew of Harry's out of control and violent reputation towards women and without blurting it out there to the world in more detail of what he knew about Harry, gave the amoral prince a clear warning.
It's only a matter of time before Harry gradually loses his cool and blows up on Megs. For the time being, guys like that usually don't batter women they adore, respect, admire; treat her very special. There's a pattern: Look how well he treated Chelsey Davies and Cressida Bonnas for awhile. Then he treated them very badly. The abuser usually only batter and harm women they don't have any respect for and treat her like trash. Meg's shine will eventually disappear in his eyes after she goes too far and her mask falls off.
Opus suggests `Reasons of State' - might it be to give her time to `consider her position' after the Review?
I am committing the great sin of gossiping here but couldn't the "private reasons" she sated be mental health? Or trying for IVF?

"All this stress is so bad for me and I am trying for another baby, here is the proof from my clinic, I can't take stress of the depositions, I will be hunted and it is almost unsurvivable and my doctor tells me it will reduce the chance of success"

I don't see what other reason but health the judge would accept
Elsbeth1847 said…
I don't know that can I buy Tom Markle knowing that about Harry.

I mean, how would he have learned this (several years ago) if it hasn't made that out into more general circles before this?

Duncan said…
Wild Boar said...
Opus suggests `Reasons of State' - might it be to give her time to `consider her position' after the Review?
..............
@Wild Boar
I recall your excellent theory that the RF may be waiting for the outcome of Markle's case before reining them in. I believe MM to be a master Machiavellian manipulator. Could this all be wrapped around her "brand" and archewell?

@Opus / Wild Boar
What would some other 'Reasons of State' be? Could you please elaborate if possible as this sounds very intriguing!
SwampWoman said…
*waving from lounge chair* Welcome to posting here, Soho Fedora!
Magatha Mistie said…

What’s it all about, Archie’ ?

More cloak and dagger
From blagger and shagger
What’s it all about?
Her latest postponement
Due to possible confinement
Proof she’s mad,
Beyond all reasonable doubt


Opus said…
I don't know the reason for the adjournment, but Judges do not like granting them and for the motion not to have been objected to by the Defence suggests at least to me reasons of state. The motion for Summary Judgment will surely be opposed but if successful will presumably relate merely to the breach of copyright, thus leaving the trial to concentrate on the Defence of Public Interest (or whatever was pleaded). That will thus leave the Defence to act at the hearing of the action (it being a civil case I don't think in England we refer to them as trials) as if they are the Plaintiff with the Duchess attempting to rebut - always better to be in the position of Plaintiff. I assume that the Duchess hopes that if she is successful in January she will be able to avoid calling on the five friends to give evidence.

It always amazes me the way the press talk about Quickie Divorces when 99% and above of all Petitions for Dissolution of Marriage go that way - and always in chambers.
Opus said…
I need to correct myself:

Decree Nisi's are pronounced in the case of the special procedure (Quickie Divorce) in open court - WBBM is the exception.
Unknown said…
Am I the only one that remembers the Judge wanting to wrap up the Markle vs MOS case ASAP? He said something along the lines of it getting dragged out more than necessary. From that stance, I can see the Judge siding with a Summary Judgement but not a postponement.

The "9 months" headlines certainly looks like Rache wants everyone to think the postponement is because she's pregnant. Each subsequent pregnancy can be vastly different in any woman but it certainly raises my eyebrow to consider Rache is more fragile with potential baby no. 2 than she was with Archie and her "Unending Pregnancy Tour" flying across every Ocean.

Thanks @Opus on introducing this premise of "reasons of state." Perhaps the Judge agreed to the postponement because of the phone information she has to give MOS. She was a Working Royal and so she could argue she has sensitive BRF material the MOS should not have access to.
Unknown said…
@Miggy I wanted to send my thoughts and best wishes to you on your family's Covid situation.
Miggy said…
@charade,

Much appreciated charade.. and also a big 'thank you' to anyone who I may have missed out.

You are all very kind.

I'll be sure to update if anything changes.
lizzie said…
@Charade wrote:

"Perhaps the Judge agreed to the postponement because of the phone information she has to give MOS. She was a Working Royal and so she could argue she has sensitive BRF material the MOS should not have access to."

Maybe. I wonder if there is such a thing as a "special master" in the UK and if that can apply to phone records. (Special masters can be used to search files of doctors, lawyers, psychologists, etc where privileged communication exists.)

I do agree the judge earlier seemed to want the case over. But I wonder how much that had to do with the time and expense of multiple hearings over dumb stuff vs the case not being over.
499lake said…
As if anyone in the BRF would trust her with "sensitive information ." Get real.
Unknown said…
@Miggy May you and your loved ones be safe, healthy, and happy.

@lizzie I think I remember the Judge saying the case was limited in scope and not liking both parties using the press to add irrelevant discussions to their public battle.

There likely is a way to search phones without breaching sensitive material but Rache is exhausting all avenues to avoid giving hers. I could see her arguing a potential for leaks and hacking and requiring extra precautions because it involves the BRF. Maybe there is some overlap with a super injunction she supposedly has in place?

Case delays make it harder to follow and will likely temper public interest. This case is a drag on Rache's public image so minimizing interest and getting a win via a Summary Judgement saves her a lot of image-killing drama from her father, five friends, and Omid Scobie.
jessica said…
I’d imagine it was a financial hardship application. If the case is postponed, she has more time to get the Netflix money in the spring to continue to pay her lawyers. If the MoS’s fees are running 1.4MM so far, so are hers. She has to have legal representation and won’t be able to argue her case fairly without it- especially at this point where all combined fees are so high. This might be why ANL did not contest her reason. She probably used Covid as the excuse and since Covid wasn’t around when she filed this suit, of course her circumstances changed.
lizzie said…
@Jessica wrote:

"If the MoS’s fees are running 1.4MM so far, so are hers."

Maybe. Not too long ago though her legal costs were reportedly about twice those of the MoS and the MoS was pointing that out. (Maybe all those Zoom whinefests and demand sessions with her attorneys?)

While I do generally understand justice needs to be available for all, I also wonder where individual choices play a role, especially when a person is the plaintiff not the defendant.

We don't know why M asked for a delay (personally I think she's hoping Thomas will die but let's assume that's not it.) So, for example, crying poverty to the court after supposedly buying a 16-bathroom mansion while being papped at an expensive restaurant in cashmere and tacky orange mules that cost over $600 (bet lots of citizens in the UK don't own $600 shoes), claiming she wants to pursue IVF or is trying to get pregnant naturally and needs "time off," claiming her relationship with the RF or a "state issue" is relevant even though she and Harry chose to leave The Firm after filing the lawsuit, etc. In any event, it's not clear why those issues would be a fair reason to avoid turning over the requested phone evidence.
SwampWoman said…
Maybe it was a health delay. I do believe her attorneys could attest to her being batsh*t crazy.
Duncan said…
Blind Item #1
A camera crew was on hand this morning at the home of the alliterate one. My only guess is that she is going to use today's announcement the trial has been extended for nearly a year as a "win," for her documentary to make it look like she won the court case.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/10/blind-item-1_29.html
jessica said…
She still has to turn over the evidence. The summary case will not prevent that.

It doesn’t matter that Meghan pretends to be ultra wealthy. The fact is she is not. Personally, it looks to me that she wastes all the money she comes across. If her costs are double ANL, and she didn’t expect it to go on this long, and COVID occurred, I think it’s pretty reasonable to hit ‘pause’ while she figures out how to pay a new retainer. I doubt she and Harry have $3MM laying around. Her case is different from Charles, too, so I don’t even think the judge will be comfortable with a summary judgement based on what he has said so far about the case. He will consider it, as that is reasonable, but I don’t think he will put for an order or throw it. I imagine she definitely wants him to throw the data protection and privacy and rule on her favor in the copy. This way she doesn’t have to reimburse both legal teams, and will win costs on Copy. No matter what happens here she looses, it’s just mitigating that loss which is what her legal team is setting out to do.

It wouldn’t surprise me if she was pregnant again as it would obligate the RF during the review. It might have been her last chance option financially this year. She would have a very difficult pregnancy, but this is a huge delay tactic to take the heat off of her and Harry for another 18 months and buy them more time.

It also could be that Harry is being treated for mental health issues and/or she is. That would be highly likely, and confidential, as well. If it was Harry then of course the ANL would not contest it.

Her games are absolutely wild. Sometimes it’s hard to keep up because she plays such high stakes ‘all-or-nothing’ bets. It’s also, exhausting. I can completely understand Harry’s disheveled appearance. It’s all too much. Lol.

Sandie said…
Of course, Meghan does not want to hand over all her messages on all her devices and she does not want her friends to testify, hence she is now asking for a summary judgment. She has already missed the date for handing over all the messages and did not give a good reason nor communicate at all with the court on the missed deadline. She got away with that without censure or any knd of repurcussions. The court probably only has the trial date to set aside for the hearing for a SJ, and thus a new date for a trial has been kicked down the road. So, it all seems straightforward (in the light of day, for me!)

However, why would such a straightforward application require and be granted in secrecy? MOS did seem to object to such a long postponement for the trial, citing Thomas's age and ill health as a reason for urgency, but otherwise raised no objections to the judge making a decision about postponement.

Meghan loves creating interest and encouraging gossip with her secrecy about stuff that should be open and non controversial, but why would the judge go along with it and the MOS not object?

So, the delay makes sense to me, but the secrecy does not.

By the way, MOS will not see anything on any of her accounts (phone, social media, WhatsApp ...) as it is their lawyers who will search through them to find collusion with the People article, not anyone at MOS. The courts must have a system that can be used to ensure that, and no lawyer is going to risk a career by passing on gossip to the tabloid.

I am also confused about why the timeline for messages she must make available are 6 months after the article was published as surely evidence of collusion would be found in the time between the letter being written and the article being published? Am I misunderstanding that court order?
Opus said…
My sympathy lies with silks (the QCs) and the other junior Counsel (not to mention the Solicitors) as they will not be paid for their work until the costs are taxed (assessed). How would you like to wait years for your wages.
Or did she simply beg for more time to get her papers together because she's just an impoverished, oppressed, member of a racial minority, whose white supremacist in-laws have it in for her, attempting to get justice in an irredeemably-racist foreign country? (Sniff, sniff.)

With nobody to help her, supporting a mentally fragile husband who still suffers from the trauma he underwent when his tragic, misunderstood, mother died, murdered by his wicked grandfather? (Cue tear rolling down abused cheek, sob)
Here's a piece by Aubrey Hansen about PW & Lacey's view of him. I found it via Jerseydeanne.

https://www.ccn.com/ruthless-prince-william-right-to-call-prince-harry-on-his-nonsense/


The earliest ruthlessness I heard about was how the Queen Elizabeth, wife of Geo VI, froze out `Crawfie', the nanny of the princesses Elizabeth & Margaret. I remember reading extracts of her book `The Little Princesses' in a children's magazine in the weeks before the Coronation - I think it must have been in Enid Blyton's `Sunny Stories', admittedly somewhat infra dig?

Much more recently, the Queen's corsetiere reportedly felt the chill of the regal displeasure at what to most people was a harmless reference. HM is from a earlier era when one's underclothes were literally one's unmentionables, like pregnancy.
@ lizzie

I don't think media is a poor innocent victim. Just one thought about their treatment of Kate and I am ready to accept at some point they have to pay for it, even via Megs.

Having said this I want to see Meghan's lies exposed for what they are. Their proportions are enormous.

Previously her lawyers tried to paint a "caring Meg" and submitted proof to the court that she and Harry texted her father, now they are saying he doesn't own a cellphone. That is just beyond crazy. Somebody needs to call a spade a spade.

OKay said…
@punkinseed There is a LOT of skepticism around that blind. I personally am convinced of Harry's immaturity, lack of intellect and ability to throw a good tantrum, but not necessarily of his being abusive.
@ Jessica

I am with you on mental issues. She is claiming she/Harry/both are suffering from the mental breakdown
Girl with a Hat said…
David Beckham and his wife just got a 15 million pound deal from Netflix to do a fly on the wall reality series. How can Harry and La markle claim to get 100 million from Netflix when the Beckhams are much more famous and beloved in some circles?
lizzie said…
@Fairy Crocodile wrote:

"@ lizzie

I don't think media is a poor innocent victim. Just one thought about their treatment of Kate and I am ready to accept at some point they have to pay for it, even via Megs."

I didn't mean to imply the media is necessarily innocent. These days I have very little respect for what passes for even serious "journalism." But I do wonder at what point a plaintiff (in any civil case) has to " ___ or get off the pot" so to speak. Having difficulty paying an extremely high-priced legal firm after purportedly putting millions down on a house, having a "little one," being stressed out, not wanting to be subject to a country's quarantine...eventually enough is enough I'd think. And it's already been over a year, after all since the lawsuit was announced.

So far as the media being "punished" I've not really heard much about whether M is likely to win on the charges not related to copyright. And any punishment levied for copyright violation isn't terribly related to Kate's media experiences, I wouldn't think. But maybe it's like getting Al Capone for tax evasion or OJ for armed robbery. Good enough. (Pardon the American refs-- those are the ones that came to mind.)
AnT said…
Even large corporations have requested a summary judgment and had their application fail, and their case proceeded back to a courtroom trial. But it is a way to buy time.

As @Jessica above notes, this does not preclude her team having to turn over all requested materials by the new November deadline. They’d better be very cognizant of that, though of course they are dealing with a narcissist who doesn’t like being told what to do.

If the date arrives for the application for a summary judgment, and things are still missing or there are gaps or holes in their case, it won’t go well. It is not the job of the judge to advise one party helpfully over the other party about what they still need to present a solid seamless argument for the defense. If there still holes, missing items and messiness by January, they have a 99% chance of losing the request for this summary judgment. The judge has probably bent as far back as he is willing to go for this messy client. (He likely granted this extension just to avoid having them appeal at a later date the fact that he didn’t grant it. He sees how she rolls.)

If they pled something untrue as their confidential matter, and the court finds out, woe. i think they simply revealed she lacks funds to pay and needs time. This is where ownership of the mansion or the fact they merely rent and have no equity would have been revealed. Still, she is getting more leeeway than the average bloke. I do not think a pregnancy was suggested, but other sketchy health issues may have been.

The phone and email records from six months after the publication would definitely be of value. It is when people trip up and cheer each other or make sure no one is going to tell anyone. It would showcase any communication she may have had with the five Friends, her dad, other agents. If the MoS has any suspicions or tips they want to underline, they want those post-incident records. It would show friendship with those who spilled to People. It would show further plans with say Markus or JM or Omid. Lots of value.

The MoS has money and time to burn. Time to keep shoring up their case. Time for more dirt to emerge or a friend to spill some secrets. Time for M to trip up.. They (the UK press in general) know things. Look at Dan Wootton’s tweet today with its rich hints, for exa,ple. This is clickbait for MoS. They don’t care. The amount of material they are probably seeking and collecting as we speak may turn up more richness for future stories too. If she is trying to hide things, she is just encouraging more people looking for things with this delay stunt.

M is going to be liable for an astronomical amount of legal and court fees, doubled if and when she loses. The rewards in a case like this are minimal, but she was too ignorant or stubborn to see that. So likely now she needs to buy time, to pay bills. Of course she is paying retainers in the meanwhile and she hired more team members, so she is in quicksand now.

There are so many layers to this case, it is NOT like Charles’ much simpler case. She absolutely can lose. All the MoS has to show in January is that they have a chance to prevail for reasons that are not merely fanciful or wishful thinking, and the case moves back to trial.

To quote Swampwoman, she is batshit crazy to think she can pull this off. She may have bought some some time, in hope that her father will die (just an opinion), but the court is noting her switches, deadline misses and games. Those things don’t disappear by having a “source” call the Judge and say they never happened and people are mean.

She is building a higher mountain to climb and on the other side is a field of bills the size of boulders. Good luck, sweetheart.





@ lizzie

I am sorry I sounded as if I am disagreeing with you. This is not the case. I merely wanted to say that my own dislike for Meghan, to me, obscured the fact that media is far from blameless too.

I want MoS to win but should be honest enough to admit that it can lose and it probably deserves it for all those times it vilified innocent people. Megs is not totally innocent of course, they deserve each other.

I also readily admit media is expert in manipulation and it does manipulate us and we should resist it as much as we can. Who knows how much of it's reports are false or twisted?

Thank goodness for the blog and for people like you and the countless others. I can't thank you enough for the open and honest discussions we have here.
AnT said…
Example of how a delay like this can backfire:

Mr AnT was a leading a case against a company owned by a narcissist and an international corporation, on behalf of some smaller companies to whom they had caused harm. The sly narcissist was putting out weekly PR pieces, sobbing and whining. I knew only that my husband had the case, and the names of some of the firms involved, and how many many hours his team was burning. The delays were frustrating but they kept gathering evidence and turning over rocks, determined to help everyone whose work and lives this narcissist and the larger corporation had ruined.

The delays ran over a year. Sickness, poverty, woe, wept the narcissist to the press.

During the delay, I went to a fancy charity dinner with a older friend who is a philanthropist who’d purchased a table. The woman seated across from us enjoyed her cocktails, and went on and on about her new estate, and new summer house and the private jet her husband had just bought to fly to the Florida stables he’d bought shares in for their daughter etc. I thought: typical, drunk new money.

Early the next day my philanthropist friend texted me to say she saw my husband quoted in a new article about the big case with the narcissist, and added that it was funny I’d been sitting across from the narcissist’s wife at the dinner, and she hoped I’d taken notes. I was shocked. She chuckled: “My dear, why do you think I told my husband’s sister to stay home, and invited you instead?”

Like soap opera, I told my husband what the woman had said. His team found a secret partnership, hidden assets, got the right to have the woman’s emails and phones turned over, then her hard drive, and won the case and his clients’ lives were rescued.

And that is what can happen during a delay. The MoS know this, and are probably smiling in anticipation. In the course of a few months or a year, someone in this sloppy bunch will likely slip up, and MoS will be checking their tip line.





AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat, good find. I suppose you and I and others here are thinking the same thing!
Girl with a Hat said…
@Ant, the world needs more people like you and your husband.
Duncan said…
Been following this story since the beginning at all the usual anti-Markle sites and via the tabs/news. (I've posted here on and off as one of the many "Unknowns" until recently finally taking a name).

One of the most upsetting aspects of this tale for me is that someone who I believe to be a scam-artist is enjoying British Royal "Magical Protection".
And all despite having IMO entered the family under false pretenses planning to use them for self-advancement from the start, after treating the RF and the UK poorly, taking/wasting their money, dividing the family, damaging the monarchy AND then left with false cries of racism and a narrative and platform for personal gain.

In my opinion, whatever happened yesterday and whatever "confidential" excuses the Machiavellian Megalomaniac used, there was a hefty dose of "Royal Magical Protection" involved in the outcome.
AnT - What a wonderful story - it's a much, much, grander version of how I found out that estranged Narc husband had inherited money!

And what a kind, thoughtful, friend!
AnT said…
@WBBM, Thank goodness you found out the info on your narcissist. They are so brutally devastating to others, but some people just don’t understand the extent of their damage. I know from what you have written that you went through such hell with yours, and it is so unfair.

And yes, my friend was such a hero. A savvy woman, who correctly guessed this chatterbox might naturally trip up just be being herself.

@Girl with a Hat, my husband is a pit bull with an empathetic heart. Their troubles steeled his resolve. I wish more were like him, too.
Maneki Neko said…
I've found this in The Independent re MM's letter:


"According to court documents related to the case, as seen by the BBC, Meghan suffered “tremendous emotional distress” over the publication of her letter."

"Tremendous emotional distress". Yes, Megs, we believe you. I never read this before, has anyone?
@ Sally1975

Then the Royal family will get what it deserves. I have a firm belief that shielding a shady and unsavoury character will ultimately harm those who do.

Look at Andrew. Mommy always turned a blind eye to his shenanigans. He was the apple of her eye and could do no wrong, despite the evidence to the contrary. Eventually he got so bold he got involved with Epstein and brought monumental scandal to mommy's doors. It goes nowhere soon.

Harry and Markle are the same. We don't know a fraction of what really is going on. But even now I can predict Charles will not be a popular monarch. Who knows what will happen to him.
Hikari said…
@Magatha,

What’s it all about, Archie’ ?

More cloak and dagger
From blagger and shagger
What’s it all about?
Her latest postponement
Due to possible confinement
Proof she’s mad,
Beyond all reasonable doubt


"Blagger & Shagger" is my new fave.

Who's who, though?

"Swagger 'n Slagg'er?"

We Americans do not use the word 'slag' but I've never seen a bigger one than Mugsy.

It's infuriating that she seems to have skated by on Royal favor once again and gotten her way. Did she call up the judge, crying her big crocodile tears? Men, especially older men, like Charles, Rev. Welby & perhaps this judge seem to get taken in by Mugsy's quivering, doe-eyed ingenue act. I guess to someone over 60 Mugsy might still seem 'young'.

Those of us who are onto her see a gimlet, crazy-eyed con artist with skin like shoe leather who's been so shot full of plastic, her face could be used as a floatation device. A near-or-over 40 year old whose on her third marriage, who must have had sexual partners in the dozens (conservatively speaking) who leaves a trail of broken lives and carnage wherever she goes.

The initial judge in this case who ruled against Meg was a female, I think. Women with some experience of Meg's type see right through her. What a terrible, terrible shame for the royal family and the rest of us frankly that Anne is not on deck to be Queen after her mother. If she were, this ridiculous Harkle situation would never have gotten so far.
jessica said…
Great story AnT. Thanks for sharing your perspective. It brings a lot to the table! Narcs, typically, trade on ‘information’. They hide, conceal, destroy, manipulate, narrate-to-death, deflect, protect the lie, I mean it goes on and on in the ‘trade of information’.

In this context, I was thinking about Meghan’s delays and refusal to hand over her communication. It seems pretty obvious to me that her accusations do not stand a chance when presented within reality (and facts). With t he presentation of her information, her whole case falls apart and then she owes $5MM to everyone involved, has her ass handed to her, looks foolish and embarrassing, and any deals she hoped she could get go ‘bye-bye’. There’s a lot of money at stake now, so I do think the delay is financially motivated.

Even the judge said she thinks FF needs to be included because of what her team is omitting. ‘It’s not about what is said, it’s about what is unsaid.’

So, when I look at this situation, it seems so apparent that Meghan made it all up and is now trying to snake her way of out it as a typical Narc does. Zero responsibility.
AnT said…
@jessica, I totally agree with you - trying to snake her way free of it all. In her type of mind, it probably seems possible.

@Hikari, your assessment is so spot on, I wish we could bookmark it for future reference. I hadn’t thought of it, but your idea about the tougher female justice — Francesca something wasn’t it? — is intriguing and now makes me wonder. (Where did I read that Warby had been big-eyed Diana’s lawyer at some point years ago? Might underscore your thought).

@Maneki, hadn’t seen that before either. But probably had to be emotional distress or financial impact to propel a case, so emotional distress It was. But how to separate this distress from all the rest would be my sincere question, since every damn thing since 2016 has been so emotionally upsetting to this strong feminist woman in her warrior poses.

Just think of all emotional upset raining upon her since 2016 from causes including:

dating Harry before we knew, when police were nonetheless repeatedly called to her Toronto home to chase invisible paps and intruders
her father
her entire family,
Angela Kelley
the smelly old church
Kate
the Queen
Eugenie’s wedding plans
Little George and Charlotte
the entire population of the UK
the people of Australia and their gov general’s wife and staff
banana bread
H’s gun collection, cigarettes, meat eating
H’s friends
Everyone at the polo
William
The Royal Marines
Everyone on planet earth who hasn’t asked how she is
the Canadians
the decor of Tyler Perry

I mean........
Enbrethiliel said…
@Girl with a Hat
David Beckham and his wife just got a 15 million pound deal from Netflix to do a fly on the wall reality series. How can Harry and La markle claim to get 100 million from Netflix when the Beckhams are much more famous and beloved in some circles?

My first reaction: Maybe this is why she "leaked" that she's invited to Brooklyn's wedding next year. At the time the article came out, the Beckhams' would have still been negotiating their deal. Perhaps Meghan thought that an association with them would get her a similar offer.

My second reaction: Didn't Victoria Beckham already have a reality series, which flopped? As far as I remember, it was mostly her, with David and the children making a few appearances. I wonder whether it would have been more successful with the entire family as a draw. If so, then Meghan would get more out of studying the Beckham's past ventures than trying to compete with a present one.

My third reaction, having looked up reviews of Victoria Beckham: Coming to America: It seems to have been a genuine attempt to connect with US audiences rather than some big money grab. But it failed because Victoria's British humor didn't strike a chord with American viewers. Interestingly, Victoria was a good sport who poked fun at her stuck-up image -- and the show even cast a fake assistant whom she could pretend to be mean to! I can't imagine Meghan doing anything remotely like this!
AnT said…
@Puds. I love your posts too and everyone else’s — it’s so much fun to read everyone’s thoughts and concepts and wit, the poems,. Nutty has created such a great community here for all of us to wander safely into with our jaws dropped from the latest Harkle shocks.

Goodness — “hyperbolic asserter” — that is amazing language. I hadn’t seen that phrase before, so glad you found and shared it! Somehow I hear it in the voice of Elizabeth to Mr Darcy: “And you, sir, are a hyperbolic asserter, and I shall never consent to be your wife!” Good thing the judge has a sense of humor, he is going to need it.

Agreed — I love seeing what Harry Markle’s take it. He sounds ready to implode over the insanity, poor soul. I think we are all at risk of getting what I call Megdemic Fatigue, and our promise of January was ripped away too. Perhaps we have to keep laughing at least.
AnT said…
@Puds — that write up is fascinating, Do we think the five friends are flying monkeys? And if so, what will their testimony be like? Is H one?

jessica said…
I find it shocking there is no one in Meghans past that speaks up to defend her, even on the low-key in social media. ‘She’s a great person, she’s been severely victimized and never given a proper chance, ‘she was wonderful during XYZ’ and gives concrete examples of Meghans mind generous and wonderful behavior. There’s just NO ONE.

Katherine McPhee/Foster was all ‘we went to the same school, but didn’t know each other. OH and BTW! My successful superstar husband is Harry’s new dad!’. This had me ROFL. Katherine and her *winks*. I think she only talks to Meghan occasionally to get the inside scoop to trade on with the other A-Listers. Let’s be honest; wouldn’t we all do what Katherine is doing if given the chance? It’s not her life, it’s also her entertainment. And hey, if she gets to perform at Buckingham palace then it’s a win for her.

Back to the point: where are all the people? Even those in the UK....
Hikari said…
@AnT,

It's my understanding that Harry Markle is a female. I think only a woman would get so worked up over Smeagol. Her blog is named in (dis)honor of the Royal Formerly Known As HRH Prince Henry of the United Kingdom. She was the first to correctly identify him as Meg's appendage, not the other way 'round. For someone who has so brazenly taken advantage of his birthright to do sod all in life and routinely insult people, possibly hurt them very badly & be too entitled to ever buy anybody else a round, Meghan' Handbag has a very poor-to-nonexistent sense of himself, really. Imagine allowing oneself to be that devalued from starting out so high that he's basically Meg's bog roll now. She doesn't care about him, never did . . only about what she could get out of his family.

We spent a lot of time debating who 'the Five' were before you joined us. Meggy's in a bit of a sticky wicket now since she's ghosted at least half of them since a almost two years ago now when that People article appeared (back when she was 'pregnant with Archie').

*****Jessica Mulroney (Chief/BFF friend)--ghosted

****Serena Williams (L.A. friend--the one with the husband Meg flashed her tired-out 'postpartum' lady business at during the British Open last year. Meg spent the match drooling over herself on the Jumbotron and making imaginary conversation with Serena's mother who epitomized 'non-plussed'. Didn't look at Smeg once.)

***Lindsay Roth Jordan (probably--'longtime friend') One of the two that accompanied a drunk/stoned Meg to Wimbledon and propped her upright. Meg was in NYC for LRJ's wedding on the weekend she was allegedly in Botswana with Harry. She posted on the Tig. The other possibility for 'long term friend' was Benita Litt, another college contact, but BL is a lawyer--doubtful she'd get herself embroiled in these shady shenanigans. If Meg were superficially appealing as a drinking buddy back at Northwestern, it's hard to imagine these old college chums wanting much at all to do with the Duch-A$$ as she currently is.

**Abigail Spencer ('former co-star'; wedding/shower guest) Unclear how much contact they have these days.

*The fifth slot was up for debate . . .probably Mischa Nonoo; possibly Priyanka Chopra, but I doubt she is still 'friends' with MM after posting an unequivocal denial to the published report that she had flown to Windsor to play patty-cake with Archie.

************

Harry is definitely the chief Flying Monkey, at least where inflicting harm to his brother is concerned. If H. had not been so jealous of William and the two brothers had actually had the kind of supportive relationship we have been told constantly since Diana died that they have, Harry would have seen the wisdom of William's counsel and dumped his Toronto booty call forever. He is a narcissist as well, but not to the same grade, obviously. His lack of intelligence and drive made him easier to manage than Smeg. Paired up with her, he's just being dragged along for the ride, but he's not applying any brakes, either. He bought into what she was selling early and is loath to admit that he f*ck*ed up . . again. He's still got it in his tiny mind that he's going to show the world who the rock star in the family truly is.

I call him the 'Loeb' to her 'Leopold'--the minor, ineffectual psychopath who needed the driving engine of a greater psychopath to spur him into action. But there's no honor among thieves--Meg will turn on him to save her own skin. It's coming.
YankeeDoodle said…
What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I have made comments on this site before about Just Harry’s time training with American soldiers at base camp in California, and how he behaved so badly that he should have been jailed. Americans could not believe what “Captain” Wales got away with, and he was lucky not to land in jail. Most of the articles suddenly disappeared. The same attitude in America, which made Just H a laughingstock in America blew off tempers in GB, that had him “resign” from the British Army, and the desperate attempts to rehabilitate his image, which was a wonder to behold.

What came first - the Blind item, or the judge suddenly postponing everything until January, which I believe will be a summary judgement against MOS, but paying Just H a pence, and liable for all legal costs, especially postponements of a ridiculous case. The Blind I, believe, was a warning shot over the bow towards Just H, from one of the following: QE2, Megs, PC, PW or P Andrew. I wonder if this horrific BI will ever reveal the person, as the charges are awful. However, I am not surprised if J. Harry. It explains how and why Megs could get away with her disrespectful actions towards the Royal family, which she stupidly extended towards heads of state, the most unforgivable being the Royal Muslim Moroccan family.
Duncan said…
@Yankee Doodle
I'm not quite following you. I understand you are saying you think the blind is about Harry, but what are you theorizing about the blind having a connection to the lawsuit?
YankeeDoodle said…
The Blind is obviously about Just H. Second place goes to Hunter Biden. I am trying to figure out the timing of the blind, if it is about Just H; his and Meg’s legal team had not given the court required documents when due, and still stalled; and then they asked for a summary judgment. How was this ridiculous lawsuit, which in America would have either been thrown out, or cost the plaintiff lotsa money, for several reasons. In America, if you are delivered of a letter, etc., without it being a civil or criminal document from Americans, the recipient of the letter, in this case undoubtedly Mr. Markle, an American, was delivered of a letter personally in his name from an American daughter living in a foreign country, received either in Mexico or L.A., and like 100 percent of Americans, Mr. Markle has every single right to believe it is his property. An American, the recipient of a letter written by his American daughter, owns the letter in America. Megs is not a British citizen. She was erroneously given the fake title, and the title is silly for an American to use, unless she has dual citizenship. My neighbor’s dog is Duchess of Sussex, certified by the American Kennel Club. Who in America certified Megs?
Button said…
@Sally1975
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I could be very wrong, and I don't want to chime in wrongly nor assume that I know YankeeDoodles` thought process, but she could be alluding to the fact that if the case goes to trial, and Markle is forced to testify she could accuse Handbag of what the blind is saying. The Queen, nor anyone in the Royal family would most assuredly not want that confirmed nor even brought up. So if the SJ is awarded against the MOS then no trial. Case closed as it were. And The Odious Pair once again slip through the noose.
Duncan said…
@Button
Yes I see what you are saying - I just thought maybe Yankee was saying something more specific about the confidential reason Markle asked for the postponement.
Button said…
@Sally1975
.
It is exhausting isn't it? LOL! Bloody hell I know that for awhile there I just gave up reading anything about The Odious pair. Markle and Handbag think they are ahead of the game, and that because they are ' Royals ' that they will get special dispensation no matter what chaos and hurt they cause. I, however, think that in the New Year things will go arse over teakettle and their downfall will begin in ernest.
YankeeDoodle said…
@Sally - the Blind is horrible if true. It may also be warning Just H, Megs, and everybody involved with this stupid case, that loose lips sink ships. Who has the most to lose if the Blind is true - QE2, Just H and Megs, the British government, everybody who has covered up crimes on Harry’s behalf (if true, and like I said, this Blind could be from MOS, warning what could happen if taken to court - everybody has a lot to lose, even MOS; the DM will be hated.)

I as only thinking about what I know; who told me (several people, including officers who dealt with Just H) and how a validly stupid couple, HM, have everything to lose unless they reconcile.
Pantsface said…
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/823368418478802/?ref=share_attachment&__cft__[0]=AZX3_4OC2Hcd7VP6NwrbA6L7MJNso66qy1OoBiEkszocTJcpJdfXXffACLgpwo_UIKJKyfRcUpNSnjOtBD3xjkB8qkaheoBH0f5Kl-9gynIzPT0JFWgKmUwhlOrU00rWsYYqsyPB3XKEM7jlC_SNmhHZvpVrjQGlplga2fRRPDoNioJoufJTLu1Zw1F28AIGxiYz1u3PGyw_u8CtojNN5X5b&__tn__=EH-R

The most bizarre thing that has come up on my facebook feed?? It's on a local selling site, no idea what to make of this, think I am in the twilight zone
Duncan said…
Fairy Crocodile said...
@ Sally1975
Then the Royal family will get what it deserves. I have a firm belief that shielding a shady and unsavoury character will ultimately harm those who do.
.................
@Puds said...
@ Sally1975, I think you are right in that we harbour a perhaps unfounded sense that the Royals get an easy pass when they go to the Court, after all it's Grans Court.
________________

@Fairy
I concur with your earlier comment on appreciating the Markle blogs. I'm disappointed in yesterday's outcome I feel I need some 'Harkle therapy' in order to deal with it! I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts today and have also been reading up on the case trying to make sense of it.
I feel really bad for the Queen...I have always liked and admired her. I now find myself going back and forth between anger and sympathy for her.

@Puds
I don't know if there would ever be any direct interference by the RF in the courts in modern times but I do feel that there could be an innate manner of catering to them as much as possible. I believe some degree of "special treatment" happened yesterday.
Pantsface said…
So I've looked a bit further - has a twitter account johnnybotwright - @johnnymax7

So strange, seems to think someone murdered someone. Yes it's true that the body of young woman was found at Sandringham, but the rest??? I think the poster may be a mentalist, but why post on a selling site, where we are all looking for a bargain :)
Duncan said…
@Yankee
I don't know what to think anymore.
I was of the opinion that the blind was not true or not about Harry. I've never heard about him being violent before, and figured it was MM putting out some kind of negative story in preparation for a divorce.
I did however, read some theories elsewhere that the blind info could have come from the military following Harry's recent negative comments.
I don't think the blind could have come from the MOS - they seem quite eager to go to court and will earn a lot on all the stories they can write. They have a lot of articles today and are currently pushing the Thomas angle.
Why do you think the DM would be hated if they go to court/trial?
Duncan said…
@Button
I pray you are right about the new year! I'm hoping the vile pair do not get their summary judgment and Markle ends up on the witness stand no matter how long it takes!

@Puds
The links you provided don't seem to work...
Duncan said…
Oh sorry, I just realized I made a mistake in my last post - I meant to address it to Pantsface...

@Pantsface
The links you provided don't seem to work...
Miggy said…
This is totally off topic and I apologise, but Prince Charles and Camilla invited the Daily Mail to Highgrove. Ooh, colluding with the enemy! I wonder what Megs will think!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8898741/Prince-Charles-Camilla-invite-Mail-Highgrove.html
Pantsface said…
Sorry Sally, maybe just go to the twitter page whilst I sort out a proper link (i just copied and pasted) or maybe not, it's totally out there, I appreciate there is lot of madness on SM, but blimey this is out there
YankeeDoodle said…
@Sally,

In my opinion, the majority of the British people support the monarchy. I know almost every American I am able to speak with about the Royal family today, are either uninterested in the topic, or mostly in favor of the Queen and Prince Philip. Most Americans over 40 know Diana and Prince Charles, but do not know anybody else except the teen and twenty -years old William. Basically, Americans think the British would be crazy to vote out the only kings, queens, princes and princesses in the world that relate, at least by language, to most Americans. Americans know they will not meet any Royal, as most Americans will never meet the President of USA, or Caroline Kennedy. It is the aura of the British
royals, and the living history, that appeals to Americans.

In the BI, I believe this was a threat regarding every Royal, if there was a cover-up. Of course, American media cover up many horrible crimes. I thought, as a toddler, that President Kennedy)’s name was “Mattress Jack”, as everybody in D.C. called him that name, but it was an open secret. The same with J. H. Will the Blind ever be revealed? Are the royals threatening MOS, or vice versa? Did Meghan focus on Just H., because he was well known by Soho House for his “fun” against the weak? Did Markus Anderson tell Megs about J. Harry’s violence? Or is this a threat from Megs to the royals, making up stuff in her head to receive more money?
Pantsface said…
Actually this gets stranger and stranger. when I try to copy and paste a link from Johnny Botwright twitter page, it posts a link from totontopaper1? I'm giving up, this is too much for me, FFS this page came to light from a local selling page, I live in the back of beyond, ok in Norfok UK but blimey I have no idea what is going on
Magatha Mistie said…

For Puds πŸ’

Flunkey Business

I don’t give a flying monkeys
For Megs and her quintet of flunkies
The wicked witch of west L.A.
Big of mouth, bigger feet of clay
She’s surely due a mighty fall
Should end up with sweet eff all
As she comes down from up high
We’ll hear her flunkies give this cry
Bye, My Megsie, Bye...
Magatha Mistie said…

Thanks Puds, any excuse for me not to get back
to weeding the garden πŸ˜‰
SwampWoman said…
Body of young woman found at Sandringham (BBC, 2012) https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-16401359

She was identified as 17-year-old Alisa Dmitrijeva, of Latvia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-19715353

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6pk3js/unresolved_murder_the_mysterious_death_of_alisa/

She *may* have owed money to a drug dealer. The people that she was in a car with lied about dropping her off and apparently vanished. People were afraid to speak to the police; the police didn't have much to go on.
SwampWoman said…
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-16728744

AnT said…
@Hikari, thanks for the informative reply. I can see all of those people as sycophants but somehow, not Serena? Perhaps she was more of a busy woman raising a child while maintaining a huge career, who spent a few moments here and there with M thinking she was a potential friend, and M put on an act to charm her..... versus someone of the stature of SW being someone to follow M and cheer and abet her, I think she got the full measure of M sometime between the baby shower and the US Open, and slid away from a friendship. Just a feeling. Misha seems MIA too, but who knows. Didn’t someone mention they had a Malibu house and wonder why H&M weren’t staying there?

@Puds, I remember that entourage story, did someone post it here perhaps? That she was a Z lister swanning in she was A+ for some basic little shoot. But yes, that is the sort of crowd that sounds flying monkey like per your post. Like a Mean Girls pod.

@Hikari —- almost forgot!! So, I always thought Harry Markle’s writer was a woman too. But back at the very end of August, the illustrator of the hilarious cartoons in the HM posts made a reference to the writer in a tweet, saying that “HM doesn’t use ads in his blogs”. And so since they work together, I figured she (the artist who goes by Artemiss Goog, whose toons should be in a book!) would know his gender. I was surprised. but ever since I have thought of the HM writer as a male. I assumed the passion comes from anger at the scope of the grift and the damage to the royal family. Maybe he has been a victim of another narcissist’s vicious sting.

Where do Markus Anderson, Amal and Doria fit into the scenario? Not flying monkeys, but higher level agents? Co-narcissists?

AnT said…
@Magatha Mistie — ha! That is so so perfect. I hope you keep all these poems in a file on your desktop! ((applauding))
AnT said…
@Hikari, thanks for the informative reply. I can see all of those people as sycophants but somehow, not Serena? Perhaps she was more of a busy woman raising a child while maintaining a huge career, who spent a few moments here and there with M thinking she was a potential friend, and M put on an act to charm her..... versus someone of the stature of SW being someone to follow M and abet her? I think she got the full measure of M sometime between the baby shower and the US Open, and slid away from a friendship. Just a feeling.

@Puds, I remember that entourage story, did someone post it here perhaps? That she was a Z lister swanning in she was A+. Really sounds flying monkey-like, per your post. Like her own Mean Girls pod.

@Hikari —- almost forgot!! So, I always thought Harry Markle’s writer was a woman too. But back at the very end of August, the illustrator of the hilarious cartoons in the HM posts made a reference to the writer in a tweet, saying that “HM doesn’t use ads in his blogs”. And so since they work together, I figured she (the artist who goes by Artemiss Goog) would know his gender. I was surprised, but ever since I have thought of the HM writer as a male. I assumed the passion came from anger at the scope of the grifting, and the damage to the royals.

Where do Markus Anderson, and Doria fit into the scenario? Not flying monkeys, but higher level agents? Co-narcissists? Hmm.

Duncan said…
Here's some interesting info from Dan Wootton (The Sun):

First, a tweet from today...

Dan Wootton
@danwootton
Does anyone else get the feeling Meghan Markle is hoping the world will just forget about her ridiculous case against the Mail on Sunday so she can quietly walk away before many of her secret dealings and details of the way her dad has been treated are revealed in court?

Then a re-tweet from his Twitter feed (link below) that includes the video interview of Omid Scobie talking about how Meghan wrote the letter to her father with the public in mind and that she knew her father would release the letter to the papers! I knew this existed but had not seen it before.

Justice Warby is already aware that Scoobie-Do is Meghan's mouthpiece. He has written about how Markle released info re judgments in the case to Scoobie minutes after the decisions were made.
Scoobie wrote Finding Freebies which will be included in the case.
Scoobie says that she knew the letter would reach the public.
Markle submitted "hyperbolic assertations" as her presentation to the court.
What more does the judge need to know Markle is lying and is a devious manipulator?

https://twitter.com/Annej747/status/1322310445567516674
Duncan said…
@Yankee
You asked about the timing...
-the blind came out on Oct 26th
-Markle's request for changes in her suit came about '4 days' (according to Chris Ship on Twitter) before the Oct 29th hearing (which was originally scheduled to discuss other aspects of the suit).
It looks like her request came about just before the blind???
Duncan said…
Well it must be Halloween Eve with talk of flying monkeys, mysterious murders and a human Ken doll.
What are folks doing tomorrow for Halloween in your areas?
Here in my neck of the woods we are allowed trick or treating in small groups but with some restrictions/guidelines.
SwampWoman said…
I live in a rural area, no streetlights, no sidewalks, pastures, long, dark driveways with big dogs. No trick or treating here. As per usual, I shall probably buy emergency candy sometime tomorrow just in case some child decides to brave the long, unlit driveway, the livestock, the dogs, and the dark (which has not happened in 20 years). We shall buy our favorites (M&Ms and Reese's Peanut Butter Cups) since we'll just end up eating them, but one must be prepared. Maybe I should get our favorite ice cream to hand out this year. Hmmmm. Nah, that would look like I was just buying it for me instead of the (nonexistent) trick or treaters.

Grandkids live in a beach resort small city, so lots more things there to do. Churches and municipal groups have already had trunk or treating and various candy station activities. I would *think* that they've enough candy already, but I am probably wrong (grin). Regardless, not much risk in running around outside with their siblings for an hour or two at dusk with parents with their (COVID) masks on.

I wonder if Harry and Meghan will be pulling Archie in a wagon to Oprah's house for trick or treating? She's probably already left town and ordered security not to let them in.
Magatha Mistie said…

Thanks AnT, am now storing them in ‘Archives’
on my phone.

Tune for the day, apologies to Dion:

“Keep away from Meghan, she’ll sue”

The moral of the story
from those that she knows
Beware of Megs
as she steps on your toes
All her tools will tell you it’s true
Keep away from Meghan, she’ll sue




Magatha Mistie said…

@SwampWoman

Bugger the sweets!!
After battling your long dark drive, whilst fending off dogs,
I’d be expecting a very large restorative beverage,
for medicinal purposes!! Cheers πŸ₯‚
Duncan said…
@SwampWoman said...
I wonder if Harry and Meghan will be pulling Archie in a wagon to Oprah's house for trick or treating? She's probably already left town and ordered security not to let them in.
................
LOL SwampWoman!!!!
Ole Oprah ain't letting anyone near her with Covid still lurking!
________________

@Magatha
How about a spooky Harkles Halloween witticism?
πŸŽƒπŸ‘»πŸŽƒ
Magatha Mistie said…

@Sally, not feeling very “Halloweeny”
massive storms, had to abandon the garden,
tending to a gin & “elderflower” tonic instead!!
We used to throw great halloween parties when
the kids were young, sadly all ‘growed’ up now!!
Will stick a cauldron of goodies by the front door,
Mister Mistie will no doubt scoff them on the sly..
When I was growing up we wore an old sheet,
holes for eyes. My Dad carved turnips, wire handles,
the lit candle would heat the wire!!
I love the smell of burning turnip, fond memories πŸŽƒ
We can all go "Trick-or-Drinking"!
Magatha Mistie said…

@Musty hahaha, Drink 🍸

“One Trick Phony”

We know Megs loves to be seen
She should stay in, it’s Halloween
The twitch, and his bi.ch
Our wicked Megwitch
Will be captured on zoom
Flying ‘high’ on their broom
As Haz yells, Megs gives us more room

Magatha Mistie said…

“Flower Power”

November 1st is All Saints Day
Will our Megs come out to play
Sainted Meghan of the bush
Has no need to wipe, nor flush
The patron Saint of Toms and Dicks
Also Harrys, and flaccid wicks
Has but one clear desire
To set the world around on fire


Magatha Mistie said…

P.S.
“Flower Power” aka the “Burning Bush”
SwampWoman said…
ROFL, Magatha! Trick or drinking, now why didn't I think of that? (Halloween is suddenly much happier.) Happy Halloween, y'all!
Enbrethiliel said…
@AnT
I can see all of those people as sycophants but somehow, not Serena? Perhaps she was more of a busy woman raising a child while maintaining a huge career, who spent a few moments here and there with M thinking she was a potential friend, and M put on an act to charm her..... versus someone of the stature of SW being someone to follow M and abet her? I think she got the full measure of M sometime between the baby shower and the US Open, and slid away from a friendship. Just a feeling.

I don't see Serena as a flying monkey either. She's too successful in her own field to be subordinate to a grifter like Meg.

I'm sure she was dazzled by the story at the beginning, as many of us were: American actress wins the heart of one of the most eligible royal bachelors in the world! <3 <3 <3 From the moment Meghan made Prince Harry release that statement to the end of 2017, people were still very curious about her and willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. But when it became clear what kind of person she was, many people pulled away. I think her showing up at the US Open after she was asked not to and Serena possibly getting in legal trouble for being one of the "five friends," definitely ruined things between them. Otherwise, it would be Serena and Alexis Ohanian getting name-dropped and used for pap ops instead of David Foster and Katherine McPhee.

Whatever Alexis got out of participating in the TIME100 thing "curated" by Prince and Princess Harry, I hope it was worth it. (Someone here speculated it was a favor in exchange for Serena not having to testify, but I don't know if that's something Meghan can promise.)
Enbrethiliel said…
Slightly OT:

All this talk of flying monkeys reminds me of one's downline in an MLM (multi-level marketing company). Members are always hustling to recruit new people to their downline, filling up social media with their MLM posts, and "faking it until they make it." This is practically what Meghan already does all day.

While reading the subreddit r/antiMLM the other day, I was reminded of our "Where will Meghan be in 10 years" discussion. I wouldn't be surprised if an MLM that's as shady as she is tried to use her as a spokesperson or figurehead. She could give a long, vague word-salad speech at one of their big conferences and soak up applause from a live audience of thousands. Given the wigs she has been choosing lately, I'll bet Monat would love to have her. Or if she's willing to hire a new baby actor so she can play the concerned mother, she could partner with an essential oil MLM. Then there's always Arbonne and Mary Kay for facial care and cosmetics. The list of potential partners is endless, Meghan!
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Well done again. Perhaps you could try another seasonal Halloween offering featuring Megs. I suggest using the following words (in no particular order): witch, snake, broomstick, venom, cauldron, poison, eye of newt, toad etc. The possibilities are endless πŸ§™‍♀️πŸ˜‰
Following on from the `eye of newt' thought, I've just been browsing through some of my very old cookery books, including a charity one (The Food Aid Cookery Book) edited by Saint Delia & the Venerable Wogan (Dear Terry, still very much missed).

The first recipe was from Diana - instructions for her Watercress Soup.

I wonder what delectable dishes, apart from `Smashed Avocado on Toast' the Harkles might contribute? Also what other charities would they be most likely to support now, apart from themselves, I wonder?
NeutralObserver said…
Happy Halloween, everyone! Haven't kept up with the Harkles, as there's a lot of pressing (&depressing) news in the US these days. I do enjoy a silly lawsuit though, & Megs' lawsuit against the MOS is certainly that. Below is a quote from the presiding judge, Justice Mark Warby, who obviously is prepared for a trial in the fall. I believe I read somewhere that Megs' lawyers filed the request for a summary judgement so close to the latest hearings, that the MOS lawyers had no time to craft a response, & this may be why they're having a hearing in Jan, & may be related to the delay. Justice Warby also threw out her appeal of the ruling to use FF as a source by the MOS defense. So, I think those are pretty strong signals that he's inclined to allow the trial, especially on the privacy issues, which are fairly significant, Harkles or no. There's a tangential freedom of the press issue.

The delay could be simply because Megs hasn't handed over the communications she was ordered to, & both sides need time for the laborious process of pouring over hundreds or even thousands of texts & emails, etc. They also have to consider the court calendar, as obviously, there are many other trials going on unrelated to the Harkles mess.


“I’m confident we will be able to find a time in October or November for the trial to be accommodated.” Justice Warby on Meg's lawsuit

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13059279/meghan-markle-nine-month-court-delay/

I don't have the stomach to watch the Harkles videos, but I did watch the Evening Standard BHM video, & the Malala video. I watched the Standard video, because I love dogs, & wanted to see the dog's interaction with the Harkles. It was odd, because Megs tried to clasp the dog to herself, just as she did'Archie' when he met Bishop Tutu. The dog, like 'Archie,' was more interested in something else, in this case, Harry, in 'Archie's case, Bishop Tutu & his daughter. The dog was successful in wriggling over to Harry, although 'Archie' couldn't escape from Megs.

I was interested in Malala, because I wanted to see how she was faring after both her horrible ordeal & all of the exposure she got later. She was quite impressive. Articulate & charming, I noticed she always addressed Harry as 'Prince Harry,' & Meghan, as 'Meghan,' a subtle indication of relative status. In both videos, both Megs & Hegs did an inordinate amount of eye blinking, which I've read can indicate a person is lying. Megs was actress enough to be able to maintain her Nancy Reagonish adoring gaze at Harry when he spoke. However, when Megs spoke, Harry frequently seemed to be glaring at her. I agree with other posters on another thread who thought their mentions of 'Archie' seemed forced & inauthentic. They managed to make something as commonplace as watching a baby's first steps to seem as bogus as a baby of a few months being able to recognize redheads in a play group. I'm not sure at what age baby's can differentiate colors, & most babies have too little hair to notice anyway. At 'Archie's' age when that little gem was released, most babies would be sitting on their mother's or their nanny's lap at a playgroup, as they can't even crawl at that age.

Have a fun Halloween, & don't eat too much candy, though I kind of agree with the writer Lionel Shriver, that vodka shots are the way to go these days!
Sandie said…
@NeutralObserver

Although I agree with you that the delay for the trial is not surprising considering that Meghan has not handed over her messages and accounts and is trying to delay doing so; she now wants a SJ, and probably the earliest the court can hear arguements for and against this is what was supposed to be the trial date; and she was still, confidently, assuming she could make the FF evidence go away and so has probably not been co-operating with her legal team on strategy.

However, at a secret hearing in the judge's chamber, a request was made by Meghan to delay a possible trial until after mid-October 2021. The judge than said that the reasons given by Meghan for asking for such a long delay were to remain confidential and anyone who divulged them would be in contempt of court. That is what is so very odd.

Perhaps I am failing to understand that part because of cultural differences. In my country, it is only in extreme circumstances that such
secrecy would be granted and then protected by a contempt of court order.* Meghan invited the attention by suing the MOS, and throwing in any charge she could think of, so she is not a victim here.

*In a murder case covered live by the media (the man was found guilty of murdering his wife) in my country, his two daughters ended up not testifying for him in mitigation of sentence because the judge refused to give the order to turn off the media's cameras and only went so far as to order that the cameras could not film the girls while they testified, but could broadcast audio of their testimony and visuals of everyone else in the court while they testified. Perhaps we are more mindful in my country about justice serving the people and not giving the rich special privileges just because they can afford to hire 4 barristers.

At the end of the day, the obscene amount of money Meghan is spending on this court case, wich does involve her father, during the time of the virus will define her in the footnotes of the history books.
There have been several blind items in CDAN recently stating that MM is filming a documentary about the court case for Netflix. A member of the camera crew apparently said that it was very one-side and painted her in an overwhelmingly positive light - sort of like "Finding Freedom: The Movie", the heartrending story of how The Martyr Saint of Montecito was cruelly victimized by the evil British press and how the evil royal family did nothing to help her. Will Netflix actually pay her for this? Will anyone actually watch it?
Duncan said…
Thanks Magatha!
Your latest are perfect for Halloween!
πŸŒ›πŸŒ›πŸŽƒπŸ§™‍♀️πŸŽƒπŸŒœπŸŒœ
jessica said…
Barbara, she can pay herself for it. Basically she develops the pseudo reality documentary on the court case, turns it into Netflix, they say oh interesting ok Not the best but whatever ‘content! Royal!’ Here’s your yearly first look advance. She goes to her own production company and deposits the Check, then her production company pays her for the exclusive rights to her personal story and/or appearance fee in the documentary.

I don’t think Netflix is using Meghan as talent BTW. I think she is stalling because they just want Harry (the potential $$ draw). Meghan is just not interesting and her court case is dumb. In the US, she couldn’t even bring a case like this to court as it would have no merit. The letter belongs to Thomas and we have such a broad freedom of Press, good luck with that! lol. So how would that documentary be interesting to Americans? It wouldn’t. It would look absurd.

It just occurred to me she may be delaying the case because things aren’t working out for her and Harry, maybe they are thinking about doing an about-face at the review and rejoining the RF?

Odds of that?
Enbrethiliel said…
@Barbara

Ironically, the Nutties might watch it!
Maneki Neko said…
OT but interesting. The DT has an article by Sophie, Countess of Wessex (a few excerpts):

Women are the unsung heroes of peacebuilding

These encounters have been in support of the UK’S commitment to the Women, Peace and Security agenda, which acknowledges the disproportionate impact of conflict on women and girls, and promotes the important role women play in building sustainable peace and stability. Today is the 20th anniversary of the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1325 on Women, Peace and Security.
....
Yet women and girls around the world have shared experiences of the pandemic: increased domestic violence, greater childcare responsibilities, lack of access to good education, little to no justice or accountability for sexual and gender based violence.
....
Yet all over the world, women continue to plough on (examples of what women are doing in Yemen, Kashmir and Sri Lanka).
....
This week I met virtually with women peacebuilders in Libya who, despite ongoing conflict for almost a decade since the overthrow of Gaddafi in 2011, have been working tirelessly to reconcile local divisions and contribute to the future stability of their country.
....
These women do not do it for reward or personal gain, and they often undertake peacebuilding at a terrible price. Many of the women I have met have suffered frightening consequences as a result of their work. They have been threatened, imprisoned, subjected to violence – including sexual violence – and expelled from their countries, with many living in fear of arrest on their return. Some women have even disappeared, like Seham Sergiwa, the Libyan MP abducted over a year ago. This must stop.

______________________________________________

Sophie doesn't make one single mention of herself, there's no whingeing. Couldn't MM have done the same and achieved much more than by spouting her meaningless, indigestible word salad? No mention either of 'women empowerment' so dear to her. This is how you support the sisterhood, Megsy.
Elsbeth1847 said…
It just occurred to me she may be delaying the case because things aren’t working out for her and Harry, maybe they are thinking about doing an about-face at the review and rejoining the RF?

That is an interesting idea. But would the BRF be willing to really take them back (meaning as if they never left, public be damned) or have they burned enough bridges that it would be more conditional (contingent on maintaining good behavior or like PA)? and if so, do we think they could really maintain the good behavior?

that is an interesting idea
SwampWoman said…
I think MM has stabbed too many people in the back, so to speak, too many times for her to be allowed back in as before. That goes for Harry, too. All of those people have been toeing the line, working on behalf of the Queen, and then a couple dumbasses decide that they are more important and shove everybody else out of the way? I don't think so.
SwampWoman said…
Elsbeth1847, you state the case against them so much more civilly than I do.

*drops head in shame, scuffs toes in dirt*
SwampWoman said…
Enbrethiliel said...
@Barbara

Ironically, the Nutties might watch it!


They would have to pay ME if they wanted me to watch it. I may be easy, but I'm NOT cheap so that direct deposit into my account better have lots of zeroes to the right of the number.
I may be easy, but I'm NOT cheap


LOL :)
Mimi said…
I think “The Cowardly Lion” from the wizard of Oz would be a good costume for Hairy! 🀣
Mimi said…
on second thought......”The Scarecrow” would fit him to a “tee” πŸ€ͺ
Mimi said…
I swear, I have not touched a drop yet. Um, I mean, I have not had any candy yet!!!!!!
lizzie said…
England's going into lockdown.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54763956
SwampWoman said…
lizzie said...
England's going into lockdown.


Oh, darn. I'm so sorry. What are the provisions for the people that work in businesses that are shut down? Will people obey the directive?
SwampWoman said…
Mimi, I have had neither liquor nor candy. I propose some liquor-filled chocolates!
Mimi said…
Swampwoman, It’s past 12 noon here so I can officially drink now. I love those liquour filled chocolates. er, I mean, I wonder where I can buy some of those chocolates!!!!
SwampWoman said…
Amazon has them; I'm going to stop in at the liquor store and check to see if they have any in stock. I mean, at the grocery store which I am totally on my way to. That's right, the grocery store.
SwampWoman said…
Wait, WHAT? It's tomorrow there already? Just 6 p.m. here; I always forget about the time differences. Guess I'll be eating liquour-filled stuff all alone. Hope your Halloweens were haunted!
Many years ago, Britain had a king who was only 12 inches tall. He was a horrible king, but a good ruler.πŸ‘‘
Girl with a Hat said…
https://twitter.com/The_Cambridgess/status/1322630301433081858

a very cute Halloween costume. and very relevant to this blog.
SwampWoman said…
Girl with a Hat, that is so darned cute! Miss Scarlett, groan (and grin)!
SwampWoman said…
Oh my goodness, my 16-year-old, now 6'4" grandson is dressed in his camouflage hunting clothes. His girlfriend, 17 years old and @ 6' tall gorgeous girlfriend is dressed as a deer. Heh.
Mimi said…
I drank halloween drinks all day for Halloween since grandkids can’t come over and neighborhood doesn’t seem to be doing anything! So I will keep my liquor chocolate candy for myself instead of giving it out to the kids. Oh wait........there are no more! I don’t remember eating a single one!!!!!
Mimi said…
p.s. seriously, I don’t drink......this glass of wine I poured at, and have been nursing since 12:01, is starting to taste pretty nasty.

What with all the garbage going on the with the assholes and everything else in the world, I sometimes I wish I could drink something....ANYTHING.... ( a lot of it) to . take my mind off of everything.

I keep praying, hoping, waiting for a bit of good news.........nothing....nothing but more bad news.
Duncan said…
Girl with a Hat said...
https://twitter.com/The_Cambridgess/status/1322630301433081858
a very cute Halloween costume. and very relevant to this blog.
..............

Girl with a Hat -
How adorable AND hysterical!!
She's wearing Her Maj's 'Harkle Wedding Ensemble'
AND the same facial expression the Queen sported when gazing upon Megalo the Machiavellian at the altar!!!
ROTFLOL!!!!
🀣🀣🀣
@Swampwoman LOL, great costume idea! Wow, they must be a gorgeous couple!

We had a wonderful Halloween here in the NYC area. Neighbourhood bustling, decor on full, and settling in for a nice Pinot and Pizza!

Happy Halloween, everyone. I really enjoy this community and blog. Special thanks to Nutty for bringing everyone together.

As for the duo, has anyone seen Charles comments on missing Archie? :O Wonder what's going on behind the scenes!

SwampWoman said…
Mimi said...p.s. seriously, I don’t drink......this glass of wine I poured at, and have been nursing since 12:01, is starting to taste pretty nasty.

What with all the garbage going on the with the assholes and everything else in the world, I sometimes I wish I could drink something....ANYTHING.... ( a lot of it) to . take my mind off of everything.

I keep praying, hoping, waiting for a bit of good news.........nothing....nothing but more bad news.


Well, I think that bad news is deliberate to try to generate attention. I'm so aggravated at the networks that I've dropped them all. They can all kiss my butt if they think I'm going crawling back to them after this election cycle for information because I'm not. I have better sources of information now.

I think that there is a lot of good news. There are more treatments for coronavirus now than there used to be. There is a vaccine that is quite close to being released. We see the kids and grandkids regularly, so it isn't like we're cut off from society. We go shopping, we go to restaurants (although we pick our food "to go" and eat in the vehicle. My husband figured out Zoom to speak "face to face" with his doc. If he figured it out (grin), everybody else can.
Mimi said…
Swampwoman/anyone............does anyone know what kind of “vaccine/treatment” the POTUS received that worked so well? How much would it cost for one of us lowly peons?
Mimi said…
England going on lockdown....covid numbers in Europe rising.........I have ONE grandchild with me....he has ADHD and was going crazy being locked down in a TINY one bedroom apartment with his brother sister and mother with no A/C.

I gave in and said.....get over here asap.....it has been 3 weeks now since he came and all is well so I have at least a TINY bit of peace of mind. The other two that were left behind.....well, we are trying to figure out how to get them over here....but their mother is exposed daily so it is not so simple. I lucked out with this grandson....I might not be so lucky with the others!!!!

My husband is a truck driver and every 3 weeks when he comes home I am so nervous about all the cooties he may have picked up with the hundreds of people he has to deal with that is part of his job.

Any information I get is from here.....I hope all the Markholes and their “friends” are enjoying their quarantines in their tiny, one bedroom apartment with no A/c on days that are 114 degrees like we had recently! 😑
499lake said…
@ Nutty
Time for a new topic--ASAP--please.

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