What do you do when you're desperate? Most of us have been desperate in some way, at some time in our lives.
Desperate for money, desperate for love, desperate not to lose a job or a business built over years.
Personally, I remember being so desperate to work things out with a certain gentleman that I put on a gown and crashed a gala dinner where he was a guest, then had to hide in the ladies' loo when the security guards came after me. (Unsurprisingly, our romance did not go forward after that incident).
One of the Webster definitions for desperate is "involving or employing extreme measures in an attempt to escape defeat and frustration."
When you're truly desperate, you'll do some pretty extreme things. Cheat, steal, lie.
Or share your most intimate and personal medical information, surrounded by great gobs of self-pitying word salad.
Did Meghan have a miscarriage?
Did Meghan have a miscarriage, as she stated in a recent personal essay in the New York Times?
I hope not, because no one deserves that, not even Meghan.
However, as Meghan herself states, this tragedy happens to roughly one out of five women. (Including me, although mine was quite early, and followed quickly by a successful pregnancy.)
It is not unusual and certainly not generally caused by the emotional "coldness" of one's in-laws.
No one would question
Having a miscarriage is common, but writing about it for the New York Times is not.
However, when you're truly desperate, you're willing to "employ extreme measures in an attempt to escape defeat and frustration."
When your (Democratic) presidential candidate has apparently won but no one on his team will take your phone calls; when the money you desperately need is linked to a streaming service that is in the news for insulting your husband's family; when you're stuck in an expensive lawsuit you appear to have no chance at winning, it's understandable to want to grasp at any sympathetic story you can.
The story of a miscarriage is one no media outlet - and probably no husband - would think to question.
Can you think of any other topic that would have gotten Meghan permission to write a long personal essay in the New York Times in November 2020?
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I didn't know about this slang definition of "arch". Thank you.
Do you think Megs would use this particular meaning for her "foundation"? You and I could - as a self-deprecating humour. Megs and her megalomania? I doubt it.
An excellent list of lies! You forgot, however, two of the biggest of all:
- I am Caucasian
- the BRF is racist (as well as us Brits). A lie and an abhorrent insult.
The Queen serves her country, not her drop-out grandson. What are they afraid of? Being called racists? They can neatly nip that in the bud. What else? After being an audience of the last years, people are quite aware that the two Z listers in all fields are full of manure. If ELF and his minions could make Harry into a lovable, fun guy, the opposite of who he really is, than the people in “grey suits” need to work their magic the other way. How did the government get away with deposing Uncle David, a king, for goodness sake? Not some sixth rate prince and his American wife, who have no kingly powers, but are making the Queen, and her direct heirs, look weak? Harry told the Queen he wanted out, over and over again, and to take his titles away. The Queen should have done her duty then. Now it is like a band-aid slowly being stripped from skin. The Windsors need to quickly tear the band-aid off (plaster). It is tedious to watch the morons being called Duke or Duchess. If you can get the government to get rid of a popular king, then it will be easy-peasy to get rid of the Duke titles.
You caught one of the best documented lies that she told her casting directors. Open for all to see.
The Queen serves her country, not her drop-out grandson. What are they afraid of? Being called racists? They can neatly nip that in the bud. What else? After being an audience of the last years, people are quite aware that the two Z listers in all fields are full of manure. If ELF and his minions could make Harry into a lovable, fun guy, the opposite of who he really is, than the people in “grey suits” need to work their magic the other way. How did the government get away with deposing Uncle David, a king, for goodness sake? Not some sixth rate prince and his American wife, who have no kingly powers, but are making the Queen, and her direct heirs, look weak? Harry told the Queen he wanted out, over and over again, and to take his titles away. The Queen should have done her duty then. Now it is like a band-aid slowly being stripped from skin. The Windsors need to quickly tear the band-aid off (plaster). It is tedious to watch the morons being called Duke or Duchess. If you can get the government to get rid of a popular king, then it will be easy-peasy to get rid of the Duke titles.
My rebuttal to this is Meghan Markle (grin).
I think that what is/was wrong with both of them is not something that is fixable by the right university, the perfect job or a marriage to the Perfect Person (I'm being all non-judgmental here). They were looking outwardly to affix a blame on others for their problems that existed within and for their unhappiness.
Here is one we havent heard much about lately:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have officially announced that they will no longer provide statements or cooperate with a handful of British tabloid newspapers due to their "distorted, false or invasive" stories.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex sent written letters to the editors of The Sun, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express and the Daily Mirror saying they won’t “offer themselves up as currency for an economy of click bait and distortion.” They say stories based on “salacious gossip” have upended the lives of acquaintances and strangers alike.
The letter, released Monday by the couple’s representative, said Harry and Meghan will have “zero engagement” with the newspapers, but says the couple “believe that a free press is a cornerstone to any democracy.”
And did you get:
-Meghan wants to hit the ground running
-all I asked is "is he kind? "
-I dont know those people (her half siblings)
-The entire debacle regarding her father and the wedding
-The claims of being stalked by press in Toronto
-The claims of press invasions in Canada, at Tyler Perrys house and in Montecito
-The Rose and William stories
-The Queen baking her a birthday cake as well as dropping by Frogmore
- Hillary Clinton and Ellen de Generes visiting Archie
- the standing ovation at the U N
Its crazy. How many bold-faced lies has she been caught in and yet, she still has those crazy fans. Like attracts like.
The two dingbats will never be happy. I know, without a doubt, that people who judge their happiness by how much money they have, or money they need to keep up with their neighbors; people who need to be heard,no matter how stupid they sound; people who turn their fat backs on all family, thinking that Americans see this as normal; people who are ashamed of their child; people who must be “impotent” or important; people who are just so stupid, stupid, stupid, and are annoying now like Minnesota Mosquitoes, just need to shut up and disappear.
These losers are now a joke. The Royals Must take back their dignity. Drop the drips.
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Back in the day, I recall reading that the Spencer family traditionally regarded themselves as grander than the Houses of Windsor, Saxe-Coburg & Hanover. I'm tempted to say they are `not just aristocrats but Spencer aristocrats'.
The family has been playing its part in English affairs far longer than those they see as `blow-ins' from what was a collection of relatively minor German duchies and states, before German unification in the late 19th C, under Bismarck and the Prussians.
I see that overnight we've had quite a difference of opinions on Nutty and what should or shouldn't be posted here (covid, political unless it involves the duo, personal stories etc). But for me, what I really like about this blog is all the personal stories, what unites us is our dislike of Meghan & Harry, but I think its really nice to hear where everyone comes from as it is so varied and how we all get to the same page with the odious duo. My opinion is if you don't like someones views then scroll past, we don't all have to agree on everything but to try and cancel someone by having their posts removed is pathetic. A number of people replied to SwampWomans covid post, me included, with opposing views, it didn't turn into a slagfest. Most people have gone off topic and so what.... we all wished Tatty well with her hip replacement, and gave support to someone (can't remember who) who was worried about their covid test results, I enjoyed reading about the old black and white films that Wild Boar Battle-maid talked about. We all come from different lives and have had different experiences and yet here we are all united (in sorts) in our pet topic.
And now I'm about to go off topic again Swampwoman - at the bottom of the Ukulele Orchestra upcoming gigs there is a link to 'Ask to play in your City' give it a go!
and another off topic subject re: aches & pains, someone said that putting a lemon into meths or was it surgical spirit and then letting it infuse until the lemon goes white. Well I've got the lemons but I can't remember if it was meths or what, can someone enlighten me please!
We know that H&M have more crap planned, they've been quiet for a few days now so it's definitely brewing and obviously there are many RF events for them to upstage in the coming weeks, do you think they will go for the big one and try and upstage the Queens Speech on Christmas Day?
What song do you think encapsulates MM? I heard Gwen Guthries 'Ain't nothing going on but the rent' yesterday and my thoughts immediately of the Smug one, so I post the words for your perusal...
Bill collector's at my door
What can you do for me?
Hey
No romance without finance
No romance without finance
Boy, nothin' in life is free
That's why I'm askin' you what can you do for me
I've got responsibilities
So I'm lookin' for a man whose got money in his hands
'Cause nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'
You got to have somethin' if you wanna be with me
Oh, life is too serious, love's too mysterious
A fly girl like me needs security
'Cause ain't nothin' goin' on but the rent
You got to have a J-O-B if you wanna be with me
Ain't nothin' goin' on but the rent
You got to have a J-O-B if you wanna be with me
No romance without finance
I said no romance without finance
Boy, your silky ways are sweet
But we're only wastin' time if your pockets are empty
"I see that overnight we've had quite a difference of opinions on Nutty and what should or shouldn't be posted here (covid, political unless it involves the duo, personal stories etc). But for me, what I really like about this blog is all the personal stories, what unites us is our dislike of Meghan & Harry, but I think its really nice to hear where everyone comes from as it is so varied and how we all get to the same page with the odious duo. My opinion is if you don't like someones views then scroll past, we don't all have to agree on everything but to try and cancel someone by having their posts removed is pathetic. A number of people replied to SwampWomans covid post, me included, with opposing views, it didn't turn into a slagfest. Most people have gone off topic and so what.... we all wished Tatty well with her hip replacement, and gave support to someone (can't remember who) who was worried about their covid test results, I enjoyed reading about the old black and white films that Wild Boar Battle-maid talked about. We all come from different lives and have had different experiences and yet here we are all united (in sorts) in our pet topic."
Well said! If I had a 'hand-clap' emoji, I would send you 100.
@Miggy
Very well said, agree 100% :)
Great post.
@ Miggy, D1
I Join you.
Astonishing how many lies they told within such a short time.
Anybody else would be annihilated for this and yet the duo continues their spectacle.
This is how twisted our society has become. One rule for you and me another one for those with big money for PR.
And this is the best reason to say to the Harkles" Shut up and live the private life you demanded"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9029905/Kate-Middleton-wows-red-Alexander-McQueen-coat-Prince-William-Christmas-Express.html
they will never be happy because Meghan is egging Harry on by reminding him constantly of how "badly" his family treat him which motivates him to follow her in her crazy schemes.
Agree with you too.
Spanner said 'Did anyone see the HAMS report of 'We can finally say it now, we both hate Trump' or something to that effect?'. I saw it too. As far as I can remember, I tried to find out more but the article didn't say much.
https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2020/12/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-we-hate-trump-and-we-cant-hide-it/
@Spanner, Muggy,D1 and Fairy
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Yep.
I don't mind off topic at all, especially when Mm/h news is slow.
One can always scroll if not interested.
I'm not interested in someone's negative opinion of specific posters, which they feel free to name. Don't like those kinds of posts. Find them annoying, uncalled for.
I always scroll when I see certain poster's names.
Thanks to moderators who do a fantastic job!
I read that and immediately Charlie Brown, Lucy and kicking the football came to mind.
Thanks for the link. The article is endless and attacks everyone from her father to all the members of the royal family. Her new PR people have been hard at work.
@ Spanner, Muggy, D1 and Fairy, Maneki Neko, Mel
Also agree with what you have said. Somehow the OT remarks seem to make us real and not just a name.
Her party-political allegiance in the US context is clear; what is perhaps not quite so obvious it that her attempts to `modernise'/subvert/undermine the constitution of a country of which she is not a citizen, aw well as bad-mouthing those who are, cannot be anything other than political.
I know that Prince of Wales is a title he has already as the son of PC. What's stopping them from using it now?
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For your holiday tree.
Actually I kind of like the Jerry Garcia one
"I know that Prince of Wales is a title he has already as the son of PC. What's stopping them from using it now?"
That's not true. Harry does not have the title "Prince of Wales."
Is the title Prince of Wales hereditary?
It has to be created each time by the reigning monarch - and as such is not an hereditary title. The first official Prince of Wales, the infant future King Edward II, was born in Caernarfon Castle, and in 1911 the future Edward VIII was invested in the castle when he became Prince of Wales.
Charles' sons, William and Harry have also held (or still hold) versions of that title. Harry's full title is His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales and William used the same format until he was given the formal title His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge when he married Kate Middleton.
Harry and William also used Wales as a form of surname and for military purposes, so you might have seen them referred to as William Wales or Lieutenant Wales and Harry Wales or Captain Harry Wales. William has continued to use this since becoming the Duke of Cambridge, despite a stipulation that the Queen's male descendants "who do not bear the titular dignity of prince" should use Mountbatten-Windsor as their family surname.
That confused me too, Lizzie. Harry will never have the POW
designation unless William and all his children are gone, right?
Heaven forfend!
Think of it: Meg slagged her way inch by inch, man by man, hustle by hungry con, out of nothingness to the highest rung she could hope for. It took her 35 years! Her career was still just tiny at that point, built on what men could give her, stalled and fading, her talents were meager, her claim to fame was a dad she bankrupted and a letter written at age nine, she lived in a house of Tig lies. A feminist living on sugar daddy money and burger photos. Her best next hope was to be a SoHo House rental/hostess/recruiter like Markus. But something happens and she meets, stalks marries a famous prince. Position! Opportunity!
Then she blows it all immediately to smithereens. She alienates a royal family and an entire country, and runs off with her bland pouting prince, couch surfing and merching trinkets and trying to buy her way into groups with his money. She encourages her husband to sell his dead mother’s secrets for cash, for more cosmetic work, more PR. They offend more people week after week. Celeb pals disappear, ugly cracks are showing.
Yes, she caused some damage to the monarchy along the way, and ruffled the water, but look.
The Cambridges rise strongly and carry on, basically impeccable this year. They are the poster picture for having it all.
Meanwhile, the Sussexes’ every attempt at relevancy has flopped or dissipated like mist. The lawsuits are like bunions now. FC, gone. Even the most recent frantic flailing gambits just got a lot of side-eye and raised brows, then were bumped quickly off the front pages.
The Cambridges proceed, showing real life moments and original successes, like Hold Still. We see family, connection, effort, a sweet meeting with Catherine’s friend she makes wellness calls to, the 85-year-old career Len.
The Sussexes show flaky Zoom calls lecturing uncomfortable guests. We see hostage Harry, plagiarist narcissist Megs, an 1980s photo of Doria with Megs, an innocuous house set background with mail order art and cheap furniture. No child Archie day to day. No evidence they really live anywhere, or have a garden they care for, no evidence they live in the Russian hedge fund mansion. Rumors out in California, as in the U.K., that they don’t live there. She will carry “Archie” down a public park path in Canada in the rain, but not bring him to pick out a tree at a pre-arranged private visit in sunny LA.
So, as everything cracks and falls apart, as FF’s lies are unearthed, as the press claws sharpen, they slide into irrelevance with mounting legal bills, as every extreme PR act fails to save them, even their ridiculous awards concept....
...how must she feel today, waking up and watching the public love as the Cambridges’ royal train speeds along? And William places a reassuring hand on the back of his beaming future Queen consort? Christmas in the air, toasting marshmallows together at a charming market?
How must Megs feel, knowing she threw it all aside, knowing the world knows she blew her only chance at the best pile of freebies and unearned rewards she was ever likely to have? And now lives to try to convince an otherwise-occupied world that she is the most special woman ever because she got the worst prince to take her tree shopping in a mall parking lot.
Nothing she does or says can produce a living tot who knows her as its mother. Or make legal bills fly away. Or make Harry into a smart hardworking canny billionaire superstar. Or make the public or Hollywood love her. Her lawsuits and angry erratic behavior make her poison in Hollywood; who wants to sign on to work with a recording, tattling, histrionic, lawsuit-happy sneak with no talent, but many demands?
How must she feel, knowing she is losing the power and the stature to keep witnesses quiet, and clever sleuths off her trail?
She scarfed herself.
As we sip our coffee or tea, I think her winter has come.
oops! I didn't refresh. So BOTH Harry and William could be known as POW at the same time?
As I remarked a day or two ago, MM would be Princess Henry of Wales. She would not be Meghan, Princess of Wales, nor Meghan, The Princess of Wales, although I can't imagine her grasping the difference nor resisting the urge to call herself something she is not entitled to be.
It's like formally addressing a married woman as, say, Mrs Henry Bloggs.
"I know that Prince of Wales is a title he has already as the son of PC. What's stopping them from using it now?"
Lizzie tied, That's not true. Harry does not have the title "Prince of Wales."
Agree Lizzie. If Harry’s Dukedom is removed he will be known as Prince Harry of Wales and Megsy Princess Henry (as that’s his real and Christened name) of Wales, it’s not the same as The Prince of Wales. The title of The Prince of Wales only goes to the monarchs eldest son. If and when Charles is King, Charles would need to bestow it on William as it’s not automatically inherited.
The difference is in the The in The Prince/Princess of Wales apposed to just Prince/Princess of Wales.
As we sip our coffee or tea, I think her winter has come.
Her winter of discontent?
Harry can be called prince Harry of Wales, but we will not see him called Harry the Prince of Wales.
This is akin to introduction of, say, daughters of a gentleman named Dashwood: Miss Dashwood, miss Marianne Dashwood and miss Margaret Dashwood. Anybody familiar with the custom will immediately recognise the one called simply Miss Dashwood is the eldest, Marianne is second and Margaret is the youngest. Devil is in the detail.
William will become William the Prince of Wales when Charles becomes King.
Got it. LOL.
Thanks for the clarification. That is a bit confusing and she will milk it for all she is worth.
I know a Duke is actually more prestigious, but to all the kids raised on Disney, a Prince or Princess titles seems "higher".
I saw those Christmas decorations earlier. Did you have a look at his as well which I posted yesterday at 3.18pm? Christmas presents to match your decorations ;)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Funko-Pop-Royal-Royal-W2-Duke-Duchess-Sussex-2-Pack/164863293
The kings that have acceded to the throne following the death of the elder brother during the lifetime of their father the king:
Henry VIII - his bro Arthur was PoW, Henry wasn't the PoW.
Charles I - his bro was Henry PoW, Charles wasn't the PoW.
Geo. V - his bro was Prince Albert Victor Christian Edward, Duke of Clarence and Avondale aka Eddie, who doesn't seem to have been invested as PoW.
There are 2 at least who followed their elder brother to the throne and were never PoW:
James II & VII - his bro was Charles II (no legitimate male offspring)
Geo VI - succeeded his brother David (Edward VIII) who had been PoW. George was D of York
The title Duke of Cornwall is assigned automatically to the eldest son of the monarch at birth if born to reigning monarch, or when the relevant parent ascends the throne.
Prince of Wales involves an investiture and is a sign of the regard of the monarch, it's neither hereditary nor automatic.
oops! I didn't refresh. So BOTH Harry and William could be known as POW at the same time?
The royals don't really have surnames, both the boys used "Wales" at school and in the forces.
Beatrice and Eugenie used "York" as their surname.
Mountbatten-Windsor is the surname to be used nowadays.
The Queen was never Princess of Wales. Here are her titles (Wikipedia):
- 21 April 1926 – 11 December 1936: Her Royal Highness Princess Elizabeth of York
- 11 December 1936 – 20 November 1947: Her Royal Highness The Princess Elizabeth
-20 November 1947 – 6 February 1952: Her Royal Highness The Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh
- Since 6 February 1952: Her Majesty The Queen
The Prince of Wales, title is reserved exclusively for the heir apparent to the British throne and it dates from 1301. To my knowledge it can only be bestowed to the eldest male heir and as such The Queen went from Princess Elizabeth to Monarch.
Thanks for extra info. I totally forgot about the Duchess of Edinburgh; if Philip was made The Duke (of Edinburgh) she was his Duchess by right.
Harry can be called prince Harry of Wales, but we will not see him called Harry the Prince of Wales.
And if his wife wanted "Princess" and "Wales" in her title, she'd have to be Princess Harry of Wales.
But I also agree with @Puds that people who say "Princess Diana" and "Duchess Kate" would think that a woman being the wife of Prince Harry of Wales would make her "Princess of Wales."
Charles' sons, William and Harry have also held (or still hold) versions of that title. Harry's full title is His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales and William used the same format until he was given the formal title His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge when he married Kate Middleton.
Harry and William also used Wales as a form of surname and for military purposes, so you might have seen them referred to as William Wales or Lieutenant Wales and Harry Wales or Captain Harry Wales. William has continued to use this since becoming the Duke of Cambridge, despite a stipulation that the Queen's male descendants "who do not bear the titular dignity of prince" should use Mountbatten-Windsor as their family surname.
As an American, I struggle with the distinction between 'titular dignity of Prince' vs. 'the style of a Prince'. I gather that there are so many princelings running around (?) that to be 'just' a Prince isn't all that special and thus a mere Prince must be further burnished and elevated by a ducal title upon his marriage, else he be 'outranked' by another peer with that title, or perhaps even a mere Marchioness?
But when one is a Prince because one is the grandson of the current monarch and the son and direct heir of the next sovereign in line, that would seem to outrank every other title going. Additional dukedoms and earldoms feel like gilding the lily from here, or to use a more earthy metaphor--coals to Newcastle. I have been schooled otherwise, starting with William's marriage.
So my question is, despite being created Duke of Cambridge upon his marriage, William is still the son of the future King and still a Prince. Does he not 'bear the titular dignity of a Prince'? Or is that only accorded with a 'The' in front of his name? I don't understand how he could have been 'demoted' to having to use Mountbatten-Windsor rather than Wales, since he's in the same place in line he's been since he was born, and even been 'promoted' with a ducal title. My ignorance is real and I am seeking clarification. Would William be considered HRH The Prince William, The Duke of Cambridge, or does he not get a 'The' (actually two 'Thes') until he is invested with his father's current title of 'The Prince of Wales'?
Stripping the Sussex title off would be a demotion for people who understand such things, but Meg would be absolutely delighted to get to call herself 'Princess Henry of Wales' . . which would morph very swiftly into 'Princess Meghan' or even better 'Meghan, Princess of Wales'. And it would probably not be corrected by the fawning sugar outlets she pays, either.
From the Crown's standpoint, however, that'd be more than a supremely gauche breach of protocol . . . to swan about in a foreign country, having set up a rival court and calling themselves The Prince and Princess of Wales is tantamount to a declaration of open treason.
If this were say, 1620 instead of 2020, they would likely have been arrested and incarcerated in the Tower a year ago, and would very likely have been executed. They are actively seeking to undermine the Queen's authority and brand themselves and their rogue 'court' in Montecito as an alternative 'royalty'--whilst stealing titles which they have no entitlement to.
If Harry is behind this . . .it is a blatant declaration of war against his father and the Queen. He is taking a crap all over them. People have been hanged for far less provocation than he has given his sovereign in the last year. It's good for him that he's living in the 21st century because he would have paid for these antics with his life in a different time.
And now I'm about to go off topic again Swampwoman - at the bottom of the Ukulele Orchestra upcoming gigs there is a link to 'Ask to play in your City' give it a go!
and another off topic subject re: aches & pains, someone said that putting a lemon into meths or was it surgical spirit and then letting it infuse until the lemon goes white. Well I've got the lemons but I can't remember if it was meths or what, can someone enlighten me please!
We know that H&M have more crap planned, they've been quiet for a few days now so it's definitely brewing and obviously there are many RF events for them to upstage in the coming weeks, do you think they will go for the big one and try and upstage the Queens Speech on Christmas Day?
As for M&H upstaging the Queen's Speech on Christmas day, I'm not sure what she could do. Be lowered by wires from the heavens to address the nations on Zoom? Maybe she would have a glowing moonbump AND a halo? Perhaps announce that the Netflix CEO placed his hands on Harry's head, and that miraculously caused Harry's hair to grow back?
Oooh, thanks for the information re the Ukulele Orchestra! (I shall put in my request.)
...how must she feel today, waking up and watching the public love as the Cambridges’ royal train speeds along? And William places a reassuring hand on the back of his beaming future Queen consort? Christmas in the air, toasting marshmallows together at a charming market?
How must Megs feel, knowing she threw it all aside, knowing the world knows she blew her only chance at the best pile of freebies and unearned rewards she was ever likely to have? And now lives to try to convince an otherwise-occupied world that she is the most special woman ever because she got the worst prince to take her tree shopping in a mall parking lot.
Nothing she does or says can produce a living tot who knows her as its mother. Or make legal bills fly away. Or make Harry into a smart hardworking canny billionaire superstar. Or make the public or Hollywood love her. Her lawsuits and angry erratic behavior make her poison in Hollywood; who wants to sign on to work with a recording, tattling, histrionic, lawsuit-happy sneak with no talent, but many demands?
How must she feel, knowing she is losing the power and the stature to keep witnesses quiet, and clever sleuths off her trail?
She scarfed herself.
As we sip our coffee or tea, I think her winter has come.
The Cambs certainly look to be enjoying their train tour. It was only three days long, which seems a bit brief for stops in three countries, but I'm sure the success of this first jaunt will lead to others. Seeing as Harry never got a ride on the Royal Train in his three-plus decades as part of the RF, it just goes to show that Meghan's solo invitation to ride the train with Her Majesty just two months after her wedding was a mark of great favor, if Harry had never been, and Catherine is just now getting her shot after 91/2 years of dedicated service to the Firm. Meg, the spoilt little brat who wants Everything, Now! has no concept of how very much the family bent their own protocols to integrate her into the Firm, how very many special privileges she was given, while the future Queen Consort had to earn them, despite being married to the son who will be King. Catherine was married for 5 years before she was permitted to wear a tiara at a state dinner. She had to prove she could handle herself; she did, and now, nearly 10 years on, she is reaping the fruits of the trust she has earned.
With no sense of history, decorum or gratitude, Meg barged ahead with her grabby hands, nothing never enough for her, completely obtuse to the honor of her train visit to Chester. It really takes some titanium balls to refuse to dress properly when The Queen is seated right next to you. Never mind barreling into the car ahead of Her Majesty--twice. Meg showed in myriad ways large and small, her delusions that *she* was more important than the Queen of England and the obvious draw to Chester that day. Elizabeth is just a dowdy, out of touch old woman who doesn't appreciate wokeness and whose idea of dress code is archaic and not worth listening to. I have a feeling the Queen wanted some alone time with Meg sans Harry to see if the situation with Harry's new bint was going to be completely hopeless. I think she had her answer.
Indulging her grandson in his choice of wife, with the titles and the ostentatious wedding was entirely done to keep Harry on side, but we see how that's worked out. Had Meg had the slightest intention of trying to behave appropriately and stay within the fold, perhaps she and Harry too could have had their own train tour. It could have been the Fab Foursome on the Royal Train. But for that to have happened, our HAMS would have had to have been people they very obviously are not.
BTW, you get 12 venti Peppermint Mocha lattes today for your brilliant ephithet 'Soho House rental'. Yep. That's her level, all right. If she keeps on going the way she is, she's on track to wind up back there. I guess it must be, on some subliminal level, what she really wants. Trash loves to live in the gutter; that's where it belongs.
A few comments-
@Hikari- I thought the same thing about how the heck the Harkles got their darn tree home!!! I wonder why that tidbit wasn't included in this 'juicy' story. I HIGHLY doubt Harry could figure out how to work bungee cords.
@Acquitaine- Didn't we hear that both the Queen and Kate were going to/have baked cakes for Meghan before?? She needs to jot these stories down in a 'Book of Lies' so she keep them straight.
@Elsbeth- Yes the Charlie Brown/Lucy analagy is so true!
Regarding the Queen. I think she learns well lessons from the past. The abdication and treatment of her Uncle, the disastrous marriages of her children. She knows her family is far from perfect and doesn't like to act rashly. Harry had backed his grandmother into a corner though. I just do not see how she will possibly allow them to keep their titles past March. The British people seem so emphatic about it. I really wonder what she'll do
Charles is the Duke of Cornwall.
There are 31 dukedoms in the UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dukes_in_the_peerages_of_Britain_and_Ireland
I can understand nerves. Saying or doing the wrong thing is completely normal. But to barge ahead into a vehicle ahead of your elderly grandmother in law who happens to be one of the most powerful rulers in the world is beyond anything.
For people who don't understand the problem with Meghan Markle, that story alone is eye opening. I could be wrong but I don't think the Queen ever took her out alone again (that I recall)
The answer to your problem is that no one over here has ever thought about it: Prince William is The Duke of Cambridge (HRH); beyond that I have no idea. I have just watched a Youtube clip from I think late this afternoon where the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have visited a non-descript street in Yorkshire and talked to a few of its inhabitants and with a Sally Army band in attendance. They seem not merely so natural but also at ease with their subjects. They may be the draw but it is not about them. Dignified but accessible.
I once asked a Salvationist what their bands do once Xmas is over but I could not obtain a proper reply.
I know am not answering your queries correctly but working on it.
Hope this sort of helps you. It is very confusing even for Brits.
The titular dignity of Prince or Princess and the style Royal Highness were restricted to the legitimate children of a sovereign, the legitimate children of a sovereign's legitimate sons, and the eldest living legitimate son of the eldest legitimate son of a Prince of Wales.
As a British prince, William does not use a surname for everyday purposes. For formal and ceremonial purposes, children of the Prince of Wales use the title "prince" or "princess" before their forename and follow it with their father's territorial designation. Thus, before his marriage, Prince William was styled "Prince William of Wales". Such territorial designations are discarded by women when they marry and by men if they are given a peerage of their own, such as when Prince William was given his dukedom.
Although the name of the Royal House is Windsor, the surname Mountbatten-Windsor belongs to all the children and male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, and is used, if needed, by those who do not have the style of Royal Highness and the title Prince or Princess;]
when a female descendant marries, she traditionally takes her husband's surname from that point onward, and their children take their father's. Both Princes William and Harry used Wales as their surname for military purposes; this continues to be the case for William since his creation as Duke of Cambridge
@Hikari, sorry, but you're wrong. Royal dukes trump princes except the Prince of Wales because that is considered to be the monarch of that country. Other dukes don't trump princes. This is why it is considered quite an honour to get a royal dukedom which is what happened to Charles, William, Andrew and Harry on their wedding day.
I was not saying I was 'right' . . I openly admit to being confused about the esoterica of the British peerage. My thoughts there were presenting what I believe is a *typical* American view of this whole Prince/Princess question, and why, from Meg's point of view, she might think she could get away with calling herself the Princess of Wales, ie, framing the quite-possible loss of the Sussex title as an actual promotion, because the majority of Americans won't know the difference. Sadly, this is an all too real possibility, since even if HM strips off Sussex, Harry is still going to be an HRH Prince. Meg will exploit that any way she can.
Which is why allowing this grifter piece of garbage into the family has to count right up there as one the biggest blunders of ER's reign. She wanted to make Harry happy . . but I don't know that even she realized what a deceitful and traitorous little prick she had been nursing in her family bosom. Meghan has only succeeded as far as she has in her cons because Harry is the conduit . . he's gone along with everything. He's no victim; he's a co-conspirator, and his treachery is the greater because Meg isn't blood, she's not even a subject of HM. Harry is, and he has betrayed them all. Elizabeth is too soft and indulgent towards family drama, always has been. But if she would go so far as to remove Harry's titles--all of them--let him be Harry Windsor of Montecito, Californian and get a green card and go to work at a damn job . . maybe washing cars? He does not deserve to even call himself that. Let him be Harry Markle. That'd be super woke, to take his wife's name.
I really cannot bear to look at or think about either of them.
This is all so tricky, isn't it? Look for the pesky article The.
Diana following her divorce was known as princess of Wales, but no HRH and no The. I recall Charles agreed not to remarry as a part of the divorce deal with Diana, because his remarriage would technically create a new The princess of Wales, which would be awkward while Diana remained unmarried. Camilla is styled the Duchess of Cornwall to a large degree to avoid complications with public opinion that still is very much on Diana's side. Camilla is fully entitled to be called the Princess of Wales but she is not using the title.
No "The" essentially means "some", with "The" it becomes "the real current one".
Page 230 has a paragraph or so talking about how "grateful" she was to HM for the honor* and confidence she (HM) had with MM as a palace source states: "she handles these situations flawlessly because she's always well prepared and respectful. She's very clever and good at understanding what's required." (the not wearing a hat, by the way, was actually ok as the hat was not required - the tabs got the situation wrong, MM was correct).
* a pointed context how it was an not given to K until 10 months after their wedding for comparison.
So many people from so many backgrounds come to this blog and this is what makes it so good. As you say, what appears innocent to some may be sensitive to the others.
In majority of cases a clear explanation why and a polite request to avoid the topic are enough.
Unfortunately anything can become an issue today. Even the UK royal tour of Wills and Kate to support and thank the frontline workers has become politicized and used to promote political agendas.
So I guess the best way is simply to explain to people why you find something uncomfortable. The majority here are very nice and will understand.
It is so easy to use her own words against her PR!
She was "grateful" to the Queen for singling her out with a special treatment.
Next she claims the royal family treated her as an outcast because they are "racists".
Caught in her own lies she starts twisting, claiming "not everybody" was mean to her, some were "nice" which leads to the logical question: who were the nasty ones if Queen, Charles, Camilla, Phillip were nice?
By implication we are supposed to know the nasty ones were Kate and Wills, possibly Anne, perhaps Andrew and his daughters, and yet she can't give any examples. On the contrary, when looked closely it shows see she was the nasty one.
She loses every single time facts are brought to light. It is simply astonishing.
Just so I am clear, am I to read this bit you shared from FF to mean that you also believe that Meg comported herself flawlessly at Chester?
Page 230 has a paragraph or so talking about how "grateful" she was to HM for the honor* and confidence she (HM) had with MM as a palace source states: "she handles these situations flawlessly because she's always well prepared and respectful. She's very clever and good at understanding what's required." (the not wearing a hat, by the way, was actually ok as the hat was not required - the tabs got the situation wrong, MM was correct).
Are we to believe Meg's own words in FF (seeing as she wrote the entire thing--Scobie only held the pen, as it were . .or the keyboard) or the evidence of our own eyes? Because we have ample evidence that Meg was anything but flawless, well-prepared or respectful on this or any other occasion. I read 'she's so clever and good at what's required' as 'Meg has no need of tutelage or guidance in any topic, because she already knows *everything* on any possible subject.'
It is my understanding that ER seldom issues edicts . . she issues instead 'suggestions' which, coming from the Royal person are intended as force of 'this is non-negotiable'. So when a senior courtier to Her Majesty tells the brand-new Duchess of Sussex: 'Her Majesty will be wearing a hat.' that should be taken as 'Her Majesty expects you to wear a hat also.' I think one of the fatal errors the RF made with Meg was in doing their usual circuitous and indirect Palace protocols. Americans as group, generally speaking, are not that well-versed in very indirect, non-specific speech. Meg is a particularly blunt and brazen example of the type. She needed to be told to her face: You have to wear a hat.
Would have have, if specifically instructed? 50/50. She wore hats at other formal appearances--the Balcony, Ascot, etc. It is beyond comprehension that in one of her very first outings as the Duchess--and solo with the Queen no less--that she wouldn't have dressed to impress to the utmost. Which would have meant a hat. The wind was fierce that day, so if she thought it was more 'empowering' or prepared/impeccable to have her wig whipping all over the place, showing off bald spots, etc. Her Royal Wokeness was very much mistaken. Certainly not comporting herself impeccably. Unless it's usual, superior protocol to have the junior members of the rentinue shoving HM out of the way to climb into the car first? (Twice)? Nopes.
Her Majesty expects other royal ladies to follow her lead. Meghan didn't. Ergo, the visit to Chester was an epic fail. Just a sign of things to come.
It’s great to learn about each other, sometimes in a funny way.
We learn so much from each other, what’s not to like.
We are a group of people from different parts of the world who came together united in their belief that something was not right with what Markle was trying to portray as a love story.
This is the level Princess Meghan operates at. I wouldn't put it past her to have considered something very similar.
Yes, the winter of her discontent, perhaps her ultimate discontent, as she has never seemed content at any time.
The time when an inescapable deep permanent chill really sets in from all quarters: William, the Queen, the gray men, Hollywood, the public, the press, the courts. Only paid bots and strange sugars to keep her wolf claws warm.
The Queen- I believe Harry was one of her favorite grandsons. She could be funny and silly with him. He wasn't going to be King so she could enjoy dim wittedness and charactor. Never could she have dreamed that the single biggest threat to her Monarchy would be his wife. I think she has been stuck on what to do with her on many occasions.
Charles- Now Charles has guilt with Harry and Harry knows how to use it. The Diana Card is always there and Charles is so afraid of it. I honestly think Charles could benefit from good counseling. Anyways, Charles also likes strong women. I think when he first met Meghan, he probably was HIGHLY interested in her. As he loves Kate, she probably doesn't have enough vinegar for him. So he indulged Meghan hugely early on and has come to regret it ever since.
William- Lastly we see probably the only major problem from day one for Meghan. Now even though Wills has been somewhat shielded, he has girls chasing him for years, ever since he grew into that shy hunk in his late teens. He likely is aware of different types of personalities in women, unlike Charles. We hear all the stories that William questioned his brother deeply about the relationship with Meghan. William probably and actually loves his brother as no other person does. Kate, well through William and likely on her own, could see the major red flags. Kate tried, she really did. She took her beloved sister with her to Wimbledon. As for William, he's always been the hold out and nothing can ever change my mind. As I have said before, getting up at God's hour to watch H&M's wedding and when my sister and I saw William at their wedding, nod and smile lightly at her, and then turn and face forward during the entire mass, we said to eachother, Ohhhh no, William does NOT like her, not at all.
I was under the impression that since Megs never became a citizen, all her titles were more like loose tinsel. Not truly real, or hers, or something? Awarded under the assumption she was going to stay, but not really valid without citizenship?
Nestled in my bosom is the belief the Harkles went to pick out and pick up a tree because delivery was not possible at the mansion they do not live in. And they didn’t want to have anyone (peasant who might talk) see it delivered to a guest cottage at Oprah’s or Daddy Foster’s.
I keep recalling the delivery person who said all Fed Ex packs were accepted by a Megs loitering outside the mansion gate. So.....
@Hikari,
I think “rental” probably applies to their meet cute, don’t you?
A little sideways slide here.....if you want to have fun with astrology, sensitive William as a Cancer sun and moon will be very loyal to family, but also hold a grudge forevermore. Harry and his young super model activist bride (cough) need to get used to barbed wire and ice.
As in, “Meghan, Princess of Wales, appearing live weekday afternoons in the Reno Gentlemen’s Club, five dollar cover charge”?
Yes, I think she could possibly use the title that way. ;-)
I agree — my husband shares those stars with William which is the reason I ever knew anything much about Cancerian traits. Mr AnT too has an extremely strong character. Firm. Nothing fools him. His good opinion once lost, etc. He is loyal to family and will always be there, but for the one Harry-type brother, not so much anymore.
Thus, I can see William toss a meat pie and a coin over the wall to Harry one cold day, but the castle gate won’t ever open again.
Ohh yes. Harry would have to really put on the sad face :( to get back with William. "But but Wills..........remember what Pa did to Mummy? I've never gotten over it. Meghan used to make me watch the interview with Bashir four times a day!!! And Grandpa made us walk behind Mummy's hearse!! And the flashbulbs!! And you, your the future King and I am nothing but a lowly red headed spare. It's your fault! It's Pa's fault! It's unconcious bias's fault!" LOL. Who knows what the hell he'd say
Meant to add that I totally agree with your assessment that William can always find the positive side and work with that. The trait of a leader. Something an immature or eternally bitter or manipulated Harry doesn’t appear to understand. Sad.
"The current US political climate is terrifying and the fear that covid will not be handled properly due to partisan fighting has me absolutely sick with worry".
I am so very sorry to hear this. I can only try to say that eventually the fighting will go away, everything will settle. There is a vaccine already and it means sooner or later this madness will stop - for everybody.
They say thoughts are material; please know that your post made me wish you would feel better very soon and your worries would go away. There is an ancient Syrian (I think) saying: this too will pass.
Hugs from me to you.
Mr. AnT- love it!!!
Ohh yes. Harry would have to really put on the sad face :( to get back with William. "But but Wills..........remember what Pa did to Mummy? I've never gotten over it. Meghan used to make me watch the interview with Bashir four times a day!!! And Grandpa made us walk behind Mummy's hearse!! And the flashbulbs!! And you, your the future King and I am nothing but a lowly red headed spare. It's your fault! It's Pa's fault! It's unconcious bias's fault!" LOL. Who knows what the hell he'd say
But does anybody think that the sad face would work with William? @AnT, would that work with Mr. AnT? I have a feeling that it could work with Prince Charles; the Venomous Vixen has been so nasty to the Cambridges, though, that I don't think so.
Thank you for your kind words and support.:-)
Yes, the winter of her discontent, perhaps her ultimate discontent, as she has never seemed content at any time.
I doubt a narcissist like Meg is constitutionally capable of being content or happy, ever. I believe that someone like her only experiences the most temporary bouts of happiness, usually achieved at tearing someone else down. Otherwise she is a roiling inner stewpot of greed, rage, envy and insecurity. All the negative emotions, none of the positive ones. So she will never be content, and wouldn't have been even if she'd married William and was wearing Diana's ring and got all those high profile gigs and the courtiers jumping to serve. There is always, always someone younger, taller, prettier, richer (even for a Prince), more accomplished, with a better-looking husband, better-looking children, better-looking friends . . If Meg felt overburdened in her *extremely* light schedule of duties as #6's wife, there's no way in hell she could have coped with the expectations placed on Kate. Kate will be Queen Consort one day . .but with that is going to come more burdens, not fewer. William and Catherine will live lives of duty and adherence to traditions while under the glare of the spotlight, having the minutae of their lives picked apart and analyzed. There will always be republican sentiments, expressed loudly and persistently at their right, and their children's, to exist and live the lives they do. This is their lot--duties, forever. An immense amount of privilege, but not freedom.
Meg couldn't hack this life for even two years. But she feels entitled to be the 'Queen of America' on her own terms? As if.
As for the 'Meet Cute' . . yep. Why the seeming confusion in the engagement interview over when exactly they met, and how long they'd been dating for? Why did Meg hasten to say 'We've got to protect her privacy' vis. the 'mutual friend' who 'fixed her and Harry up on a blind date' (in July 2016)? Legitimate friends would be legitimately happy to be outed as the matchmaker for a legitimate Royal romance.
I believe how it went down was:
Harry goes to Toronto for the Invictus Games pre-launch in Toronto, always a year before the actual Games. He booked into Soho House, an establishment used to catering to celebs and where HRH is no doubt a member. Meg was cruising for dudes with money at the bar, where it has been suggested, she could be found most nights, et. voila. She was a one-night stand that got out of hand, because once he'd boffed her, she just wasn't going to go away. She pulled out all her very special top secret salad tossing skills, introduced some roast chicken into the mix and Harry was probably happy to dine out at her restaurant whenever he was in town. Did he ever really make *special* clandestine trips to see Meggy in Toronto, or . . did he simply dial up his favorite Soho House amenity whenever he was in Toronto on Invictus business?
You've got to hand it to Megsy for her relentlessness, which is her superpower. Summer 2017: William personally saw to it that she was ejected from a polo match where she was caught trying to steal from Harry's vehicle. Fast-forward 4? months, and she's in the sunken gardens at Kensington, being debuted as Harry's fiancee. I mean . . HOW does that happen? You'd think a woman who could make that happen would do everything she could to stay in that royal world . . but no, Megsy has her own very special way of doing everything. We see that it's working out so great, too.
I have the same hair problem from stress. The US is not the country I thought it was.
You are fount of these today!
Nestled in my bosom is the belief the Harkles went to pick out and pick up a tree because delivery was not possible at the mansion they do not live in. And they didn’t want to have anyone (peasant who might talk) see it delivered to a guest cottage at Oprah’s or Daddy Foster’s.
I keep recalling the delivery person who said all Fed Ex packs were accepted by a Megs loitering outside the mansion gate. So.....
Indeed . . nestled in my bosom is the belief that the whole story is bollocks. They never went to any tree tent to get a Christmas tree. No fulsome, friendly tot mistook Harry for an employee. If it had happened the way it was printed, where is the snapshot?
There is no happy family decorating a Christmas tree, in Chateau Mudslide or anywhere else. Where they are actually living is anybody's guess . . perhaps and extended-stay Holiday Inn Express in the Valley. All that's going on there is boozy recriminations and cable porn. Probably illicit drug usage. Nothing wholesome. The site of the Zoom vids and various 'drop-ins' on reality TV shows where possibly done, en masse from Chateau Mudslide, for the rate of $7000 a day. The Harkles probably have their pick of shooting days, what with most film productions on hiatus due to Covid. But I will certainly be on the lookout for "Meg and Hazza's pad" in movies in the future.
Oh, and you also get a DoorDash dinner of your choice for the image of William tossing a meat pie and a coin over the walls of the palace. I just 'bout had some Coke come out my nose at that.
The Queen- I believe Harry was one of her favorite grandsons. She could be funny and silly with him. He wasn't going to be King so she could enjoy dim wittedness and charactor. Never could she have dreamed that the single biggest threat to her Monarchy would be his wife. I think she has been stuck on what to do with her on many occasions.
It's easy, and tempting to lay this whole debacle at Meg's ill-fitting and dirty stilettos. She does seem to be the engine driving the train . . straight off a cliff. But what's clearer now in a way it wasn't at the wedding is--Hazza is fully complicit in this. She relies on his participation and malleability . .but on some level, he's bought into her warped vision for their lives. If at any point in the last two years, he'd been firm and said, "Hell, no--I refuse to do THAT (flee to Canada; sandbag Granny with the manifesto; squawk about the American elections; stage 'charity walks' in L.A.; walk on the graves of the dead in a cosplay; sell out my name and my heritage for a line of cheap ass trinkets; pimp his wife out to Disney, abandon the Marines, etc, etc) she wouldn't have been able to keep escalating. Harry's not a hostage to his love for Meghan; he's doing exactly what he's wanted to do all along. At some point, you'd think that if he had qualms about what they were doing, he'd say no, leave her, come home . . . He has partaken of the poisoned apple and now there's no appealing to any reason or loyalty. All, all gone.
I read somewhere that there could have been another, hidden, reason for the train ride, something to do with the security services trying to get a hold on her telephone calls/wavelengths? It seemed to involve isolating her from her usual surroundings & keeping her `in one place', (albeit one on the move!). I'm not sure of the details - perhaps they assumed she wouldn't dare use her phone for confidential snarky calls in the presence of the Queen but would pop to the loo to do so when ostensibly answering the call of Mother Nature. Were they listening in?
Does anybody recall reading this? Can anyone comment on what technicalities might be involved? It's an interesting idea - does it seem likely?
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Yes, I saw Pointless and was thankful not to have been there competing! I shouldn't have liked my expression of disgust to be beamed out to the nation. It was reassuring that the two pairs of contestants were so uninterested in her they both came up with wrong answers!
Even if I knew the correct answers, I would probably deliberately get them wrong just so that nobody knew my guilty secret about reading about them on the blogs. Being a meth addict would probably be less likely to invite scorn and derision.
" But to barge ahead into a vehicle ahead of your elderly grandmother in law who happens to be one of the most powerful rulers in the world is beyond anything."
The queen told Meghan to get in first. Meghan actually stopped and asked her. The Queen always enters a car last so when it arrives and a lackey/footman pulls open the door, Her Majesty is the first one to step out of the vehicle. Entering a vehicle like that is the only time Her Majesty is not first in line.
By the time they got to this point on that day, Meghan was kind of a mess with her hair all scraggly and every which way. (I think that was one of the days that prompted someone here to refer to her genuine yak hair extensions). A hat and clutch to carry might have made a bit of a difference. Maybe not. By not following the instructions given beforehand, MM proved she was not fit for purpose. Pretty much downhill from there...
"I saw those Christmas decorations earlier. Did you have a look at his as well which I posted yesterday at 3.18pm? Christmas presents to match your decorations ;)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Funko-Pop-Royal-Royal-W2-Duke-Duchess-Sussex-2-Pack/164863293"
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Brilliant find and even better idea! Can we create a little guillotine and employ it on the stroke of midnight New Years Eve?
We can start 2021 off right!
Thanks to everyone for explaining the stylings so clearly.
I was under the impression that since Megs never became a citizen, all her titles were more like loose tinsel. Not truly real, or hers, or something? Awarded under the assumption she was going to stay, but not really valid without citizenship?
@AnT: I am hoping that Meghan never bothering to become a UK citizen will bite her in the
ass if she and Harry ever divorce.
It’s my guess that unlike Diana and Fergie, who got to keep their titles after their divorces, Meghan has less of a chance of keeping any title because Meghan is not a British subject. At least no citizenship and being Harry’s ex would give the RF a decent reason to pull her titles. As I understand it from British commentators when I watched the Sussex wedding, Meghan only has her titles as a courtesy and would not become a true royal until she obtained UK citizenship.
Also, because Meghan is so profoundly narcissistic, in a divorce from Harry, she would go nuclear. It would likely make the ‘McCartney-Mills divorce look like a love festival. The more down and dirty Meghan is on a divorce would do no favors as far as anyone in the royal family or associated with them to assist to help her keep any sort of royal title after a divorce. The title is the main reason she spent two years stalking Harry in the first place. If Harry had not been a prince, she wouldn’t have given him the time of day.
She was doing that stupid fawning thing that she does with H re: who should sit first. It's so dumb, because there's a protocol to all that, and if you forget, the staffers are there to tell you.
Mm: Should I go first? Or you? You go first? Or shall I? No, no, you first. I insist. Ok, fine, I'll go first. Are you,sure you don't wanna go first?
Q: God, woman. Just get into the damn car already! Stop making a production out of it.
Lol. Delighted to have made you laugh (sorry about the Coke near-accident thing). Thank for the prizes.
But I’m with you. There is no way I believe those two cash poor, cheap incompetents acquired a mansion, and moved in. Each is a succubus, not a planner or thinker. She has accomplished nothing without a man making a phone call, or paying a bill, or arranging a meeting or doing a rental. She had Messica for the heavy lifting scheme work. And possibly Markus for the SoHo rental ladder climb and yacht bookings. Otherwise she plagiarizes what is easy to look up, and babbles nonsense.
He has never done anything for himself; even his public persona and Invictus association were apparently constructed by ELF, with Harry’s father and the Queen paving the way. They haven’t done anything solid with their foundation or anything else they have espoused. They forget to sign legal documents, again, that get sent back. Her whole life is a series of bad borrowed outfits that get worn and returned. Each project fizzles. They file stupid lawsuits one after another and nothing gets resolved.
That mentality tracked down an oligarch and a mansion and 14 million in cash and signed a solid deal? And moved in and started a normal life?
That is why I think there may be backers or someone propelling them. Perhaps Markus is the link. Or, they are living with Doria, or in a smaller rental, or even living apart, as happened in the UK with empty Frogmore, with rumors of her holed up at Soho and Harry back in his bachelor cottage or similar.
Why choose that odd Canadian spot as a bolt hole? Why Tyler Perry’s corner of town in LA? Why rent studio space for Zooms? Why always the ridiculous story of an encounter in peculiar spots with fans who praise them in the same ludicrously phrased way. Remember the dumb story about their English pub lunch with perfectly behaved immobile baby Archie, and script narrative from a fellow diner, then the fuzzy murky photos they threw together to make it look real? It is always a shadow game, not because they are clever and like secrets and selling secrets, but I think because it has all been a lie.
They may be living in a borrowed supplied home or who knows, even separate residences, but there is no way these silly pap-addicted mugs are living it up in Montecito in a giant mansion without photos of sunsets with wine, Archie toddling across a sun splashed velvet lawn. The Fosters enjoying an aperitif or bottled of Tig. Not even Gloria Steinem made it in the gate.
I speculate this: there is no mansion, unless they rented a wing in one, or are house sitting. A backer may own it for them, using their names to try to sell it (bad move), and when it sells to Soho House someday, we’ll know. No mansion, no Archie, no foundation, just bad videos, lawsuits and babble to keep us from seeing what little is there. Just two low intellect narcissistic wannabes, who made a deal to try to be stars for money in a town where they’re already too old to be new.
Maybe that is the RF card: they know they have solid, simple grounds to remove her titles as she never became a subject. So they can breathe easy and just keep a side bet going about Harry.
What are things we know to be real and factual about Meghan and Harry?
Scarf'aced!
Love the Walmart Christmas tree decorations of Madam and Hairy. Did you notice, both of them together are cheaper than the other royal figures? Also, the others are low in stock, but not these two! I like the guillotine idea or perhaps just place William or Princess Anne on either side of them. It does come with an Archie warning: Warning! These toys are not suitable for those under 3 years of age.
Love hearing other people's stories, interests, poetry and forensic analysis of the life story of these two victims. It encapsulates the culture/generational "war" going on in many societies today.
You said:
What are things we know to be real and factual about Meghan and Harry?
I say:
That is the million dollar question!
"What are things we know to be real and factual about Meghan and Harry?"
Good question.
Last spring, Nutty wrote a prompt for a thread that asked us something like what we absolutely knew to be true about Meghan. While our answers eventually devolved into what was said about M by various people in various places (blinds, blogs, Quora) as well as many readers' favorite personal beliefs about M, it turns out we really knew remarkably little factual information given how much is written about her. So what we know about Harry and Meghan together HAS to be significantly less than what we know about M alone.
@Lurking With Spoon & Wild Boar Battle-maid - what were the Duchess of Sussex questions on Pointless?
re: Christmas Tree - why didn't they get a tree from that place that the Sussex Squad donated money to when they did a whip-round for Archie Day, they said they bought land for tree planting to save the environment but didn't it turn out that it was actually an existing farm that plants Christmas trees and therefore cuts them and sells them for profit?....
@Crumpet & SwampWoman - I've just ordered two Ukulele Orchestra CD's to give to my dad for Xmas, hope you can get them to play in your town SwampWoman
I hope you don't mind me answering your question about Pointless.
There were 5 questions about the DOS:
1) First name of her mother.
2) State flower of California that, along with wintersweet features on her coat of arms.
3) First name of her son born in May 2019
4) Birmingham-born designer who created her wedding dress in 2018.
5) Cottage on the Windsor Estate she moved to in 2019.
Game played by 2 couples and they only had to choose one question to answer.
First couple picked no 1 and said Gloria instead of Doria.
Second couple picked no 3 and said Harrison instead of Archie.
Would we have tried to hide that we are well-aquainted with her life, thereby risking being outed?
Would we have made up answers to imply that they are a darn' less important than they think they are?
Would we have risked our chance of playing for the BBC's modest jackpot?
Would it have been worth it just to call her Mom `Doris'? Their `residence' `Toad Hall'. Or to say something like `I assumed she'd run it up herself, from a Simplicity Pattern dating from the early 1960s - several of my chums used it.' (as indeed they did! Or something very like it.)
It was Clare Waight Keller and yes, she did work for Givenchy as their first female artistic director.
"I wonder how we would have answered, had we been on Pointless?
Truthfully?
Every penny helps! (especially from the BBC) 😄
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9033921/Prince-Harry-shares-delight-mental-health-mandatory-military-training.html
"Zara Tindall is expecting her third child. Perhaps this is what Megsie was trying to distract from!"
Congratulations to Zara.
That's a very good point, even the basic £1k prize would pay for a few year's worth of TV Licences. Was it the Telegraph earlier this week that had an article saying how the Beeb is working hard to screw the fee out of the the over-75s who are resisting paying but display nothing but contempt for their older viewers/listeners to judge from their scheduling and comments?
The youngsters they're after just aren't interested.
@Miggy -
That's a very good point, even the basic £1k prize would pay for a few year's worth of TV Licences. Was it the Telegraph earlier this week that had an article saying how the Beeb is working hard to screw the fee out of the the over-75s who are resisting paying but display nothing but contempt for their older viewers/listeners to judge from their scheduling and comments?
The youngsters they're after just aren't interested.
I think that is probably true worldwide (about the young people abandoning television). The only people that I know that actually watch network TV are older people. (grin) That would include my demographic at the end of the post WWII baby boom, but we (husband and I) eliminated what we perceived to be an increasingly toxic influence in the early 2000s.
That's one of the things that has always puzzled me about the M&H Show. Their target demographics are unaware of them. That would appear to be a huge failure of Marketing 101. Perhaps if they paid gamemakers to create a video game of Meghan stalking Harry their target market might know who they are (but only if it is a good game). They could have Ann blocking, William scarfing, and Harry attempting to evade. Heck, they could set up males vs. female online games where the women attempt to help Meghan score that ring while the guys attempt to help Harry escape.
about Zara and Mike expecting their third child...
Remember when Harry said that he would never have 3 children because it was bad for the environment? So, what is going to say now when his beloved cousin is having her 3rd?
Repeated attempts to regain her position land her even lower down and `moksha' (- in her terms that's wealth and adoration) eludes her.
She should have listened to Einstein, (If you always do...) not Robert the Bruce (If at first...).
I can't think she likes being in the IACGMOOH snake pit. Tough.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/duchess-cornwall-camilla-dog-beth-plaque-unveiling-battersea-130949527.html
Delightful photos of Camilla & her terrier at Battersea Dog's Home, completely upstaging that other visit to the Mayhew.
@SwampWoman - i love your idea of a video game of Meghan stalking Harry, and this could also work well as a boardgame for us older folk, a mixture between Snakes & Ladders & Monopoly with Castles instead of streets, where we all play as Meghan and if you land on Buckingham Palace you have to play a card, either the race card, the Diana card or the victim card and the first past 'Go' gets the 'prize' of Clammy Harry, in the event of a tie then the player that's used the most cards wins
I think you should make it! I hadn't thought about the board game and cards. The board could also have things like "get the tiara" (move ahead 5 spaces), "lose the tiara and lose a turn", "redesign that ugly ring, does this fool think I'm Chelsea? (move ahead 3 spaces)" and "wear ex's jewelry 'cuz Harry is cheap (move back 10 spaces)". Perhaps there could be card of Marcus holding a roast chicken; that card should be good for advancing the bearer 5 spaces in front of the leading competitor.
You have to make this game!
Here is a perfect game model: Barbie Queen of the Prom. Brilliant. Has been handed down in my family forever, favorite with everyone.
See: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E6NHkkYcllw
Meghan, Queen of Montecito Grove Apartments?
I see the Queen of Montecito did not make the Forbes 100 Most Powerful Women list (HM did)!
To answer your very good question,
“what are things we know to be real and factual about Meghan and Harry”:
I have been thinking about this, and if assuming you meant them as a unit, my answer is down to this:
(a) at some point in time, they met
(b) they were participants in a wedding ceremony in 2018
Not trying to be snarky or humorous; I really feel that, at this moment in time, my list must end there.
Maybe Montecito Grove Motel 6? (Motel 6 is a really cheap, er, inexpensive motel chain.) If you complain about bed bugs, you'll probably be upcharged for pets.
LOL! Pets!
I see no pop-upstaging (yet) from whack-a-mole Megs on Camilla's outing in support of animals.
Speaking of pets, The Duchess of Cornwall and her dog, Beth, looking fab and having fun at the Battersea Dog shelter. Camilla should always wear that green jacket and black boots.
She really does look fantastic. Nothing phony about her!
I'm trying to gauge Meghan's reaction. On the one hand, Zara and Mike don't have titles; so I don't know if the Tindalls are properly royal in her mind. On the other hand, Zara pulled that glorious expression during the Sussexes' wedding . . . and Mike didn't care about telling reporters that his family had "never met" Archie . . . and the Cambridges and the Tindalls are reportedly very close.
This is something she obviously didn't see coming. If she managed to acquire a new child actor for "Archie's First American Christmas", she may have been hoping to release a new card around the time the royals send out theirs. And I don't think this news is enough to goad her into jumping the gun on her own plans. (A fourth Cambridge baby, on the other hand . . .) I doubt she'd even risk making up a story about Zoom-calling the Tindalls to congratulate them, generously swallowing the incredible pain of her own devastating loss, because Mike would debunk that in a second.
I almost hate to say it, but . . . It looks as if Meghan has been defanged. She still lashes out here and there, but she doesn't make any real impact any longer.
About two months ago, I said that the Sussex saga has become really boring. I think it's because Meghan is, at core, really boring. She was able to drum up organic interest thanks to the BRF connection; but the further she distances herself from them, the more she exposes herself as a complete and utter bore.
Motel 6- they leave the light on for you!
@Swamp Woman @Spanner
That game is definitely a go- must be some way to put it up online.
@AnT
The video did not come up.
/He better schedule that rest and relaxation vacay ASAP.
That game sounds brilliant, you need a manager.
I'm ready to buy it.
Amazing he is urged to take a vacation (during a pandemic no less) but not urged to visit his grandparents or his father in law while following proper protocols.
Because remember, they couldn't go to the UK for Christmas because of COVID
“Letting go, with sincere heartbreak” is the best way to relieve the Sussex duo of their pains and problems of clinging onto their royal positions.. between Christmas and New Years is the perfect time for QE2 to say to the country that after her listening to her Grandson Prince Henry’s anguish in being a part of a 1,000 year old monarchy, paid millions upon millions a year, having royal police protection, palaces to reside in, travel to Africa, having a great reputation throughout the world, free everything, free private planes and helicopters, free clothing and top medical and dental care, free polo ponies, free education, months of free vacations, and much more, Just H felt none of this mattered. He cares only to be a loser, twisting a fairytale existence into nothing; jealousy of being a minor royal.
Hold up, y'all! The board game is Spanner's idea!
@Spanner
Sorry for the mix up, I'd still buy it :)
Do you think she will sue them :)
1. When Her Majesty descended the train, everybody bowed to her. Few people tipped their heads to Megs; one man ignored Megs entirely.
2. The Queen’s lady-in-waiting, and Megs female staff member could barely keep from laughing outloud at Megs.
3. I liked Meghan’s dress and cape, but not the color. I thought the dress was classy and chic. One of the few dresses that Megs wore that flattered her body (also the yellow sheath, Oscar de la Renta bird dress, the Dior indigo dress; Carolina Gerrera pinkish peach dress at Trooping of Colors; Beckham blue dress , Oscar declared Renta flower dress at the charity fir “working” women; red gown at the military event; and several more dresses. However, the dresses never fit the occasion, or fit Megs. Everything is always off with her and now Harry.
4. While pushing her way to get to her seat in the outdoors, to sit next to Her Majesty, the faces on the people around them were hysterical. The wind was blowing Meg’s hair and extensions in every way. Megs made herself look the a huge buffoon tacky woman, by pretending to talk with the Queen, and laughing without any verbalization with the Queen.
Sorry, pulled that from an article I found. Try this for a listing.
www.amazon.co.uk/Barbie-Game-Queen-prom/dp/B000IZYB7A
If I am the DM, and fake clowns are suing my sister, MoS, and everyone else, for every crazy thing....
I let the “49” typo run. (Plausible deniability: MM’s knees, and photo of Doria in her 1972 gym shorts pushing Megs in an old toy car.)
Then I pour a nice cocktail, sit back, and wait for MM to sue.
When they do, I smile and say, “Oh, 1981? Oh my,nokay — but, prove it, Oh, our next article is about your Canadian “son” and his mom.”
So happy about the Tindall's new baby. I still think Meghan is going to turn up pregnant here soon.
Who, who, who who?
Who are You?
Who, who, who who?
I woke up in a Soho doorway
A Policeman knew my name
He said you can go home and sleep at home tonight
If you can get up and walk away
Who do we think we are?
And we in response should just say ‘oh ok that’s normal!’
It’s not.
They look like fools. Royal fools. Sad to say this is becoming the norm for them.
Good.
The Gong-arias 😉
Narc! the feral Megsie sings
Hoping for more shiny things
Pees on earth, the ground defiled
H and M are both reviled
Hark the Ferals!
Needs a bit of tweaking but it may have some potential. Apologies if I've gone a bit OTT
Love it! I hereby award you a bottle of Bailey’s and a case of Whipped cream for “Screwdo”.
Magatha,
Brills as usual. Pees on Earth gets you a tray of my homemade Russian tea cakes!
@Spanner
Screwdo, love it, very clever!! 👍
Ms Harlot-Megs
Prof Dumb-Harry
Col Bistard-Markus
Mrs PeaHen-Scoobie
Mrs Whyte-Messica
Rev Greed-No no
Hikari
Delish 😋
* [ chef’s kiss ] * Perfect! Lol!
Back atcha AnT 😘
Swampie 🎤 🎵
Spanner- You need to copyright
“Screwdo” before Megs hops on the
board-wagon.
Turkey Baster as the mystery toy?? 💉
The Sun is trolling the Narkles!
Want a biscuit tin with a photo of Hairy and Meghan at the races, Royal Ascot? Now is your chance! Hungry, desperate or need a Dirty Santa gift as we say in the US?
According to The Sun, the Walkers Special Edition Shortbread is now selling for 3.99 at TKMaxx (formerly 16.99 at Harrods). The best part, get them fast, as they go out of date in February 2021!
Cheers Mimi, glad to be of service ☺️
“Harry is ‘terrified’ of Meghan Markle every time he speaks, claims royal expert”
Terrified “out of fear he will say the wrong thing” says the article. It quotes royal biographer Angela Levin.
Imagine a blood prince being that frightened of a dime-a-dozen actress hooker, and you will understand what malignant narcissists like MM can do to a spouse like Harry, and why she isolated him. I am reminded of Camilla’s cryptic comments earlier this year.
THIS - even, three years ago, to imagine Harry doing such a thing is quite ridiculous.
"there would be quite the backlash if Andrew came over to America with, say, his American Girlfriend by his side and stated that he was going to start BeWell and dish out the BeWell Honour Awards with a gala and pomp and circumstance."
THIS - even, three years ago, to imagine Harry doing such a thing is quite ridiculous.
And to imagine that people take it seriously is even more ridiculous!
https://blindgossip.com/she-just-loves-grocery-shopping/
could psooibly be MM, but could also be plenty of other hollywood types. but i’d love it if it was MM. LOL
Its all gong quiet over there!!
One for you Swampie
The Gong-arrears
We three blings of Montecit-ah
Merching gifts we “borrowed” from Pa
Golden fountain, Mudslide Mansion
Following Beyoncé Star
A few tweaks to my board game Screwdo - I'm going to rename it Soho Screwdo as it has a nice ring to it.
In addition to Mudslide Mansion etc I need to add Yacht, Private Jet & Safari tent
To the dubious extras I need to add Copper Bath, Line of coke, a joint/spliff
To the outfits I'm adding a Military Outfit complete with medals and a Tiara
There, it's looking better already!
Twilight zone for me
US and UK all abed !!
Dishonourable Sircharge
Haz will award
Megs choice, who’s on board?
All part of their Royal Court
He will agree
To what she, who must pee
Has decreed, and most likely has bought
I love your titles for the 'Players' - genius!
Ms Harlot-Megs
Prof Dumb-Harry
Col Bistard-Markus
Mrs PeaHen-Scoobie
Mrs Whyte-Messica
Rev Greed-No no
Turkey baster and your titles are duly added!
Now I've renamed it Soho Screwdo - but actually should it be 'Just another day in the life of Soho House'?
@Spanner
“Soho Screwdo” arghhh!
Your “extras” wonderful
You’ve put a smile on my dial!!
Cheers 😊
Spanner- Thank you.
But you came up with that doozie
“Screwdo” game.
Brilliant!
Wish I’d thought of it! 👏
That would be a great online game :)
I'm late to the party, but I think "Soho Screwdo" is genius!
And my first guess is that it was Meghan on the yacht with the roast chicken!
(What? Too gross? Sorry!)
Can you do anything with `Our 'Arry and the Ivy'?
I've failed miserably but she clings like ivy, smothers him as ivy does to holly trees and dissolves his mortar as it does to old walls? (I don't care what Flowerdew & Packham say about ivy, it does shade holly to death and reduces walls made with lime mortar to piles of neatly stacked bricks - I've seen it. It's fine om modern walls as long as they have cement mortar where the sand hasn't been overdone.)
Furthermore, he's closer to the Crown.
Or is there any mileage in `Poison Ivy'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRfRITVdz4k
NEVER HAVE I EVER - MARKLE EDITION
Normally, in this game, the object is to find out who in the group has done wild and crazy sexual stuff, or other things they might not normally admit to that might be shocking. We can safely assume that Meg has all the risque/illicit stuff covered. So her edition would have to be adapted. We start with a giant bottle of the Tig, and everyone who 'has never' has to take a drink. We'd have to mix up the questions and include enough roast chicken type questions or else Meg would drain that bottle within 10 minutes before anyone else could have any.
Sample Questions for NEVER HAVE I EVER: MARKLE EDITION
Done what I was asked to do the first time
Dressed appropriately for a formal photograph
Shown decorum in church
Stuck my tongue out like a little girl when I was a 37 year old woman--at church
Paid my own bills
Showed consideration for my elders . . or anyone
Ironed my own clothing
Promoted the marijuana industry
Prepared a recipe I claimed as my own with my own hands
Know how to turn on an oven
Used profanity in the presence of high-ranking government officials
Created diplomatically sensitive incidents
Have fans willing to kill for me
Etc.
@Wild Boar Battle-maid
An attempt, ugh......Yah, I am no Magatha.
The Arry and the Ivy,
Now both’s scams are full well blown
Of all the bunts in Soho’s wood
Airy’s peed upon the crown
Oh the hiding of the son
Oh the running and his fear
From her playing once the Arry organ
And flinging lace front hair
The Arry wed a blossom
As shite as stinkweed flower
And Ivy bought her juicy Archie heist
To sweeten PR saviors
The Arry imbibes leaf and berry
He’s thicker than princely blood
Ivy’s wig of lies grows lank and liced
To which port can they scurry for food
Shoved an old monarch out of the way to climb into a car, twice
Had my hand death-gripped by Lord G
Thrown a teapot at staff
Told my host to F off
Told the Queen’s dresser to naff off
Taken secret photos of friends’ private home to sell
Made a child cry at a wedding fitting
Bought a baby
Named my baby using my sister-in-law’s son’s pet nickname
Named my baby after a hooker hotel hub’s online merchandise collection
Called myself a super model
Said my stick legs ending in enormous bunion feet were mile long model legs
Bent over a gill in short shorts for money
?
Spent a second date in Botswana, or any date, urinating and defeating in a jungle
Pushed my husband aside , to be first. Or climbed over chairs in a church to be first before my uncle and aunt
Returned used clothing with taped price tags
Worn a bed robe at engagement
Whilst pregnant, would vacation in a Zika infested area
Shown up uninvited to many parties, and asked to either leave, or stand by the doors
Show to bananas spooning to “out” myself
Write slogans on bananas to sexually exploited female sex workers
Have staff bake banana bread/cake and take credit
Wear Mortician hair, cut off from Chines prisoners and/or poverty-ridden young women
Push down top of dress deliberately leaving car to be seen as sexy to Trooping of Color
Lived off men entire life
Lost popularity faster than a locomotive, or faster than a bullet
Sue, sue, sue ya every person who gets in my way
Well done (as well as @Spanner for the Soho Screwdo© game!). I think we can add to the Never have I ever: Markle Edition list:
- written a personal letter for public consumption
- written a personal letter with help
- contributed to a biography
- worn a moonbump
- plagiarised any sayings/sentences
- claimed to be harassed by the paps
- pretended to casting directors that she belonged to an actor's union
- said that Trevor E was her first husband
We've probably missed a few...
"Unless it's usual, superior protocol to have the junior members of the rentinue shoving HM out of the way to climb into the car first? (Twice)? Nopes."
Yeps! THE highest ranking person will exit the car first at the next destination, so that person who would of course be Her Majesty is last into the car for departure.
AT THE Chelsea visit, Meghan asked the Queen, what is your preference, and the queen said, you first.
I agree with you and all who say MM did big things and small things wrong. Getting in the car first, especially when the Queen told her "you first," was not one of them. She proved herself not up to snuff well before that.
Having to ask what she had without doubt been told by Harry and by staff, that was a faux pas and probably put the tin hat on the day. In video you can see the queen's face showing a certain seeping away of patience.
Oh, her plagiarized speeches! The absolute top one is Eleanor Roosevelt's saying where she changed just one word. From "peace" to "equality". The rest is a carbon copy.
I will never tire of pointing at this. Megs is not very smart, otherwise she would add a savior phrase "As Eleanor Roosevelt famously said..." She didn't have enough brains to do even such a simple thing! it is absolutely astonishing.
'Her Majesty is said to have given the go-ahead for the new group to attend events together, as the Royal Family hopes to return to official duties ‘as soon as possible’ in the new year. The collective will consist of the Queen, Prince William, Kate Middleton, Prince Charles, the Duchess of Cornwall, Prince Edward, the Countess of Wessex and Princess Anne, The Mirror reports. Notable absences include Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, who have stepped back from royal duties and moved to the US.'
https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/10/queen-forms-new-firm-of-senior-royals-without-harry-meghan-or-andrew-13731164/?ito=newsnow-feed?ito=cbshare
“It isn’t enough to simply talk about equality. One must believe in it. And it isn't enough to believe in it. One must work at it. Let us work at it together, starting now.” Meghan Markle
Even OK magazine wrote about this astonishing plagiarism
https://www.ok.co.uk/royal/royal-news/meghan-markle-plagiarism-un-speech-21482683
I will never stop reblogging this and pointing at this!
"Unless it's usual, superior protocol to have the junior members of the rentinue shoving HM out of the way to climb into the car first? (Twice)? Nopes."
Yeps! THE highest ranking person will exit the car first at the next destination, so that person who would of course be Her Majesty is last into the car for departure.
AT THE Chelsea visit, Meghan asked the Queen, what is your preference, and the queen said, you first.
I agree with you and all who say MM did big things and small things wrong. Getting in the car first, especially when the Queen told her "you first," was not one of them. She proved herself not up to snuff well before that.
Having to ask what she had without doubt been told by Harry and by staff, that was a faux pas and probably put the tin hat on the day. In video you can see the queen's face showing a certain seeping away of patience.
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All part of the fawning and patronizing of the Queen.
Of course she didn't have to ask. She would have been told ahead of time.
And if she forgot, the staffers were right there trying to direct her. But of course, missy takes direction from no one. No one tells her what to do.
"THE highest ranking person will exit the car first at the next destination, so that person who would of course be Her Majesty is last into the car for departure."
I agree. The two "who goes first" car entrances on that trip DID look incredibly awkward. But I think the order of Meghan first was correct. IF TQ was supposed to get in first, obviously she wouldn't have been expected to slide over the backseat seat to the other side of the car the make room for Meghan to get in. So if TQ got in first, it would seem Meghan would have had to get into the car on the other side. Maybe that was what was supposed to happen?
Having to ask what she had without doubt been told by Harry and by staff, that was a faux pas and probably put the tin hat on the day. In video you can see the queen's face showing a certain seeping away of patience.
You're probably right that the Queen was just completely fed up by that time . . . But do you suppose she let Meghan commit that faux pas in public because she was playing a shady long game? Ms. Modernize-The-Monarchy may have thought she won by being able to enter the car first (with the Queen's permission, too!), but everyone reviewing her Greatest Hits would only see here an ignorant, boorish, sloppy woman with bad posture and even worse hair.
The Queen could not really do anything about MM asking like nobody told her anything. MM just could not take hints or suggestions. At one of the trooping of colors one year, the Queen looked around at the young ones who were talking--the royal version of your mom's silent but piercing "BEHAVE NOW OR WAIT TILL WE GET HOME" glare. Everyone but M moved aside, she looked at the Queen as if to say "were you going to say something" but the Queen and everyone else had turned around to the front already and she was just standing there feeling out of place. A cue was given, she totally missed it.
"So if TQ got in first, it would seem Meghan would have had to get into the car on the other side. Maybe that was what was supposed to happen?"
Staff had opened and was holding the door on the one side. The honored guests would get in on the same side, i don't think M was supposed to open (or close) her own door, or go around the car. Too informal for that occasion.
"And if she forgot, the staffers were right there trying to direct her. But of course, missy takes direction from no one. No one tells her what to do."
Soooo true.
I'll put up a new blog post over the weekend.
"Staff had opened and was holding the door on the one side. The honored guests would get in on the same side, i don't think M was supposed to open (or close) her own door, or go around the car. Too informal for that occasion."
I'm sure she wasn't supposed to walk around the car on her own or open/close doors. I just thought it might have been possible she was supposed to stand back and let TQ be escorted and settled in the car and then she would have been quickly escorted to the other side. But you are probably right M was supposed to get in on the same side and she was supposed to do it first. I was just trying to figure out why it looked so messed up. I guess it is because M asked awkwardly (and undoubtedly HAD been briefed beforehand. And even if she hadn't, surely she could have discreetly checked with staff before the second car entrance!)
I know a number of people posting here have said TQ should have gotten in first but as you pointed out, that can't be right if they were entering from the same side as it would put TQ on the wrong side of the car to exit. But even if the plan was to pull up to the next venue differently so TQ could still exit first, or even if she wasn't TQ, no one would ever plan for a 90+ year old passenger wearing a dress to have to scoot across a bench car seat to the other side so a younger passenger could get into the car!