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AnT said…
@Flore

I 100% agree with you — especially since Camilla stood in the way of Megs hopping onto Charles as the fastest route to the throne, and Camilla sees right through Megs, and Camilla is friendly with Kate. And remember the video in which Camilla walked past bump-clutching Megsy toward Kate with an eye roll and a surreptitious, quick belly pat of her own?

Megs would love to destroy the future Queen Consort (Kate) and future Princess Consort (Camilla)......so she will point to one of those....

Or for maximum fallout, she will say it was little Charlotte or George.
@Flore said…
@AnT
“Or for maximum fallout, she will say it was little Charlotte or George.“
😂😂😂 She sure is crazy enough to say it!
JennS said…
Here is a new Valentine Low piece that discusses the Harkles drop in popularity as well as the Scobie email/crying duchesses some of which I think is new tea...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-have-fallen-out-of-favour-with-public-since-oprah-interview-poll-shows-3hkdvwbt0

From the London Times:

Harry and Meghan’s popularity plummets after Oprah interview, poll shows

Valentine Low
Friday March 12 2021, 5.00pm GMT

The popularity of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in Britain has fallen since their interview with Oprah Winfrey, a poll has shown.

Prince Harry is now unpopular with more people than he is popular with, while the ratings for Meghan have fallen to their lowest level ever after the interview this week.

The YouGov data shows that 45 percent of Britons have a positive opinion of Harry, while 48 percent regard him negatively. It is the first time that attitudes towards the duke have been negative overall.

Meghan’s scores have also fallen sharply. Only 31 percent of people have a positive opinion of her, while 58 percent have a negative opinion, a net rating of minus 27, down from minus 14 just over a week ago.

Young people remain more likely to side with the Sussexes. Among 18-24-year-olds 55 percent like Meghan, while only 32 percent dislike her. In contrast most people aged 65 and older dislike both Harry (27 percent positive, against 69 percent negative) and Meghan (13 percent against 83 percent).

A leaked email has revealed how Meghan was still pressing aides to correct allegations that she made the Duchess of Cambridge cry more than a year after the story was first published. The publication of the email, in a column by the author of a book about Harry and Meghan, has prompted speculation that it was leaked by Meghan herself.

The email was sent to an aide in January last year after a story appeared in The Times in the wake of the couple’s announcement that they planned to step down as senior royals.

The story said that the couple regarded themselves as having been pushed away from the royal family by the “bullying” attitude of the Duke of Cambridge.

After it was published, on the day of the Sandringham summit, a statement was issued in the name of both brothers saying the story was false and that “the use of inflammatory language in this way is offensive and potentially harmful”.

According to Omid Scobie, one of the authors of a book about the couple, Finding Freedom, the publication of the statement prompted a reaction from Meghan. Clearly still perturbed about the story published in November 2018 saying she had made the Duchess of Cambridge cry during a fitting for the bridesmaids’ dresses, she was said to have written an email stating: “Well, if we’re just throwing any statement out there now, then perhaps KP can finally set the record straight about me [not making Kate cry].” Scobie added: “As with many requests made by the couple, her suggestion was ignored.”

In her interview with Oprah Winfrey, the duchess said that it was Kate who made her cry. The Daily Mail said the publication of the email raised the question of how it came into Scobie’s possession. “Was it leaked by the Duchess of Sussex herself?”


It has also emerged that a member of Meghan’s team emailed the BBC pointing out that “three middle-aged white men discussing issues of race” was not ideal. The email, which was not a formal complaint, was sent to the BBC’s royal team after coverage on Radio 4’s Today programme on Monday.

The guests on the programme included the Daily Mail journalist Robert Hardman, 56, Charles Anson, 76, a former press secretary to the Queen, and Dean Stott, 43, a friend of Harry’s and former special forces soldier. Scobie, 39, who is of mixed race, also appeared.
JennS said…
**@AnT

Camilla Long really does have their number! There are a lot of delightfully snarky bits in that piece. Maybe she should co-write an expose with Piers.

Glad you like my new avatar! I picked that photo and gave it some kisses because he is looking in towards us as if he's a fellow conspirator as well as the patron saint of the Megxiteers!🤣💓🤣💓🤣

I'm trying to focus on the crying duchess story right now. There are so many different angles with this nightmare it's easy to get distracted.

Markle is so full of it with her claims of being unprotected.
Remember when she had a group of various bloggers DOXED in the Daily Mail??? What role did the RF play in that episode? If they didn't enable it, they certainly did not prevent her from doing that!
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

**@Magatha

Love your latest - especially Blightied!!
🤣🤪😁🤪🤣
KCM1212 said…
Does anyone else feel that the falsehoods, the vitriol, the threats that the RF, particularly Kate, are experiencing is condoned (encouraged) by MM as payback, since MM "experienced" all that.

A "now you see how it feels" if you will.

And if the RF somehow stops it, it will "prove" her narrative. That the RF will protect Kate, but not MM

I think she released the hounds of sugar and pointed them straight at Catherine.
jessica said…
Meghan sounds like an idiot. What if Kate did cry privately at home? Or with her aides (more likely). How would Meghan know the statement was false? She cannot prove Kate did not cry. Enough!
jessica said…
I just glanced through Scobies Twitter feed. That guy is obsessed with Meghan. It’s all he tweets about!! Past events, daily events, Meghan exclusive info, Archewell.

What a weirdo. Is she paying him?
AnT said…
@JennS,

Check out the Sun U.K. — an article picking apart the lies, with sources coming out to say she was incorrect in some assertions.
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Loving Rob X
Next time can we have a
“Stool” Pigeon splat, a la madams
shock frock!

So disgusted by hath & hath not,
I’m channeling my murderous thoughts
through P. D. James.
Have quite a fancy for Adam Dalgliesh 😘




Magatha Mistie said…
Hope and Glory v Dope and Fury

As Churchill once vowed
To stay stoic, and unbowed
Keep Buggering On!
No matter what
Thrown by Haz and his THOT
The Monarchy will carry on, strong

God Save the Queen



Svetlana said…
Have Omid and Markle ever been seen together? Omid IS Markle. Markle IS Omid.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Jessica

It’s all Scobies got, megs morph.
Reckon the RR’s ignore him most of the time,
wouldn’t touch him with Markuses!!
Magatha Mistie said…

Hell on Heels

There’s a special place in hell
For madam dispel
A place just for Megs
And her dregs
Whatever your belief
I get some relief
That I won’t be crossing paths, with her feet


JennS said…
Svetlana said...
Have Omid and Markle ever been seen together? Omid IS Markle. Markle IS Omid.
........................
@Svetlana
ROTFLOL!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised!!! Scobie's face keeps morphing so much. In his latest pic he looks like all the air was let out of his face and he aged a couple of decades overnight.

@Magatha
I used to read P. D. James many moons ago and also enjoyed the Adam Dalgliesh character. And Cordelia Gray too! I should dig them out as I always enjoy a re-read of a good novel and I'm not remembering them very well it's been that long.

In the London Times they have been calling the poo-splash dress - the 'Monica Lewinski frock'. eewww

@AnT
Thanks! I shall check out the Sun next...
Magatha Mistie said…

Cheque Point Charlie

Now to the question of money
Did Charles really chop off his Sonny
I reckon so
By Haz’s low blow
It’s really too right, and too funny


DeerAngels said…
Quick visit. I saw a article on feed that stated PP was transferred to another hospital. It then was gone. No updates??
Anonymous said…
This article in the Express isn’t worth reading but I love the headline:

Prince Harry branded ‘a flashlight with no batteries’ after Oprah interview – ‘Useless’
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Urgh, even I won’t go as low as Lewinski 😉

I saw P. D. James 20 odd years ago on stage,
“An Evening with..”
Excellent.
She wore fabulous, trendy shoes,
funny what you remember.


JennS said…
@Magatha
An Unsuitable Job for a Woman was the first James book I read. The last one I read I didn't like and didn't finish. I just looked her books up to try to figure out which one that was - I think it was Death in Holy Orders.
I had forgotten that she wrote Death Comes to Pemberley. My Mom liked PD James too and we used to read them at the same time to discuss afterwards.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Jenns

Wondering which stool pigeon left his moniker 😳

Maisie said…
@ Opus,

I believe you are correctly identifying Meg as a Hydra and Archie actually confirms this. He is not saying ‘hydrate’ but Hydra.
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Death in Holy Orders is one of my favourites,
also Cover Her Face.
Just re read Unnatural Causes, enjoyed it,
although the small print played havoc with my
tired eyes!
I didn’t enjoy Death Comes to Pemberley,
or the TV adaptation, even though some
of the scenes were shot in my “home” town.
JennS said…
So a couple of days after Markle launched a war against the monarchy she is recommending acts of compassion.
Is this another sign of her delusions? Is she really not capable of seeing how vile and hypocritical she is?

TAKE NOTE Meghan Markle sends letter to London school for International Women’s Day encouraging ‘real acts of compassion’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/14321894/meghan-markle-international-womens-day-letter-school/

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Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

Have you read Susan Hill - Simon Serrailler
Also love her Ghost Stories
I’m in the mind for murder, due to Tug & Plug.
At least we have Camilla, Valentine, & Piers
in our corner, fight the good fight 🥊
JennS said…
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JennS said…
Apologies if this has been posted already.

Plant from Anonymous Houseplant Fan / Tiara and Houseplants had posted an excellent extensive list with links of all the times the Royal Family supported Markle...

https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/645519091585695744/ways-palace-supported-meghan-markle-during-her
JennS said…
OMG I REALLY can't believe this!!!

CALIFORNIA LOVE Fundraising page to pay for Meghan Markle & Harry’s £11m mortgage after he moaned he was ‘cut off’ financially by royals

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14318972/harry-meghan-fundraising-page-america-mansion/

I don't know if this woman is a kook or what but the link to the fundraiser no longer works.
Magatha Mistie said…

@ JennS

Hahahaha gotta love the Sun,
they even put it in pounds, 3.61
each donation 😂


Go Fund and Mortify

For five bucks a go
You can help this sad show
A sugar asking for a donation
The woke and her bloke
A globalised joke
Even their fans can smell sheer desperation


JennS said…
@Magatha
No I'm not familiar with those books - I will have to look them up.
"I’m in the mind for murder" - LOL!!!!!

I've been trying to contact Valentine Low. We need more tea!
JennS said…
@Magatha
ROTFLOL!!!!
go fund and mortify!!!

You write
at the speed of light!!

I think I'll end my Harkle stuff today on that note.
I'm off to watch BritBox.
😁
Magatha Mistie said…

@JennS

G’night, 🥰
Magatha Mistie said…

Apologies to Dame Vera Lynn

Dover is Over, and Out

There’ll be no birds over
The blanked cliffs of Dover
Tomorrow, just you wait and see

There’ll be no more laughter
From hereinafter
All because of bigotry

Maneki Neko said…
I've read a reader's comment on the DM which mentions the dark triad in connection with the witch. I looked it up and it involves Narcissism, Machiavellianism, Psychopathy. It seems to apply to our Megsy.

'Recent comparative research on the Dark Triad has attempted to analyze differences among these three malevolent personalities. To varying degrees, all act aggressively out of self-interest and lack empathy and remorse. They’re skilled at manipulation and exploit and deceive others, though their motivations and tactics vary. They violate social norms and moral values and lie, deceive, cheat, steal, and bully. It’s thought that genetic factors underlie their personality to some degree.'

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/toxic-relationships/201812/beware-the-malevolent-dark-triad

https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/understanding-dark-triad.htm
Sandie said…
Can't remember where I read it, but supposedly Charles gave the Harkles a large lump sum to 'help out' for the first year. They may very well have used that money for the deposit on Mudslide Manor. They then supposedly got huge advances from Netflix and Spotify.

Perhaps the problem is not lack of funds but Meghan's spending habits? I suspect that Harry would not deal with that but project his anxiety about the over-spending onto his family and make everything 's.omeone else's fault'.
Maneki Neko said…
Meghan has now made a formal complaint to OFCOM about GMB & Piers Morgan but two can play that game. A DM reader said:

Basic Common Sense, West Sussex, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago

'These allegations were made and broadcast without: 1. Any challenge 2. Any questioning of their veracity 3. Any proof or evidence 4. Any basic or substantive fact-checking 5. Any 'Right to Reply' afforded to the individuals or organisations named or affected by those allegations The above means there is a clear breach of the following official OFCOM guideline which states: "Ensure that Broadcasters avoid unjust or unfair treatment of individuals or organisations in programmes". ' (You can complain online to Ofcom, using above info if you wish).'

I will.
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

I always thought Meghan is simply a narcissist and unaware of her personality disorder.

However, the performance in the interview, and the bit of dirt that recently has been revealed about her (the bullying etc.), and her behaviour in trying to control the media, and the realization of just how much she lies leads me to think that the pathology is much more than mid-level narcissism.

Because of movies and TV shows, we tend to think that psychopaths are all evil murderers or end up in prison. Perhaps this is not so.
lizzie said…
@Sandie wrote:

"Because of movies and TV shows, we tend to think that psychopaths are all evil murderers or end up in prison. Perhaps this is not so."

No, it's not so. "Successful sociopath/psychopaths" likely exist. Here's an interesting article for those who want to delve deeper. (I find it fascinating, some may find it dry.)

https://thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-27/edition-7/trail-elusive-successful-psychopath
O/T (partly)
Ava C & AnT:

Thanks for that Ava - I decided not to mention differences within the region. In the south of the region a lot hangs on which in river system one is born. (Alan Milburn - Darlington, on the Tees; Ross Noble - strong Geordie, video has subtitles!- on the Tyne; your dad - on the Wear.

Not all Tynesiders count as Geordies though: that handle applies specifically to N'castle and is said to date from the 18C when the city stood out as supporting the Hanoverians (the story is it didn't want to lose the coal trade with London by going Jacobite). Certainly, Wearsiders, eg from Durham or Sunderland, get upset if they're called Geordies!

We once thought of moving to Berwick but picked up on the arguments about where exactly the border should be, and whether the English had `stolen' Scotland's oil. We decided we could live without that and stayed in the south.

Thus we discovered that there are animosity between neighbouring villages on Dartmoor, dating from the Civil War period (1641-1660) - Google `Moretonhampstead Roundheads'. If families have occupied the same land for centuries, memories are very long!

Btw, over here, we don't recognise the existence of a single `British' accent. Professor Higgins wasn't so OTT as you might imagine - was Herself referring to `My Fair Lady' when she talked about `classes'?

To think, she calls herself an `actress'! Surely learning lines should be easy for her, especially when they rhyme. As for how to sit and so on, couldn't she have treated it as a `Method' situation and taken a leaf out of de Niros' book?

It's not as if she had to prepare for `The Knowledge' like a black-cab driver.

https://sbmenon.medium.com/robert-de-niro-the-final-word-of-method-acting-76931129cf21
I am reminded of a Noel Coward number - I'll just give a taste of it and the URL

They're out of sorts in Sunderland
And terribly cross in Kent,
They're dull in Hull
And the Isle of Mull
Is seething with discontent,
They're nervous in Northumberland
And Devon is down the drain,
They're filled with wrath
On the (F)irth of Forth
And sullen on Salisbury Plain,
In Dublin they're depressed, lads,
Maybe because they're Celts
For Drake is going West, lads,
And so is everyone else.
Hurray, hurray, hurray!
Misery's here to stay


https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/3219068/No%C3%ABl+Coward/There+Are+Bad+Times+Just+Around+the+Corner
Magatha Mistie said…

@ WildBoar

I grew up in a small town.
The surrounding villages, less than 2 miles
apart all round,
had different dialects to each other, and us.
Not so much now.



Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

I do hope the rats are leaving
the BBC!!

I wonder what Giles Fraser thinks now?

Has he eaten his own sermon yet?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2017/nov/30/how-meghan-markle-might-bring-the-royals-closer-to-christ-the-king
@ magatha -

Yes indeed! Were the 3 black females I mentioned earlier as commenting on Tuesday, in response to m's `request'? (I can't be bothered to give her a capital letter!)

They try too hard to be Woke - I read the comment somewhere by a foreign journalist, IIRC, that she felt she was in S Africa when she watched BBC News.

Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

Megs can complain all she wants,
already declaring she’s had Piers sacked.
The world is turning, slowly.
Megsies days are numbered.


@magatha,

Yes, we're losing/have lost so much locale distinctiveness. Even `Estuary' English has spread far from the Thames.

About 8 or 9 years ago, there was a contestant on the Apprentice who for some reason seemed familiar but I couldn't think why. Before I googled her, and discovered her surname, I tried to place her accent - narrowed it down to a point about 40 miles from central London, between 2 main roads which radiated from London very close together.

I googled her and discovered that I was spot on. The reason she seemed familiar is that she resembled my father's cousin (1894-1978), born about 10 miles from where she was living. Her nose was similar, timbre of her voice and way of speaking v. similar and the same surname as him! Presumably a hitherto-unknown, very distant cousin by marriage.

That sort of thing won't be possible much longer.
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

My Great Grandmother had an accent/dialect
not too dissimilar to “Hannah Hauxwell”
Even though we were miles away from the dales.
Magatha Mistie said…

Yin and Wang

Haz is no more
Since Megs took the floor
No more counting on him
Who gives a stuff
About Megs and her fluff
But Oprah, and her hold on little Yin!
Hannah Hauxwell - My, she was a wonderful old lady wasn't she? I had such admiration for her. She had a lovely voice.

Baldersdale -my hat, that's seriously remote. As part of Upper Teesdale, I think it should have been in Durham all along. I used to know someone who spent the winter at Nenthead, now sadly departed this life; he was not unlike Hannah - one the most unmaterialistic people I've ever met.

Such folk put the Harkles to shame. I can't think that H ever tries to imagine how other people, (You know, H - the sort you claimed you wanted to be) see him - a grown man, more or less middle aged, a former Captain General of the Royal Marines to boot, almost crying at having to spend his own money because his elderly dad has stopped him spongeing off him any longer.

Short arms and deep pockets - it must have really hurt him to reach into his inheritance.

How bloody pathetic.
Maneki Neko said…
Reading the posts from last night.

@Pantsface said

'Actually I an really angry that we Brits have been accused by the US and other woke agendas of being racist - look at your own front doors before you defile ours- none of us are immune and we all have lots to learn, but ffs give it a rest, they are using us, all of us, whatever creed, colour, religion for their own gain'

Include me in this, Pantsface.
AnT said…
@MagathaMistie,

Hell on Heels to ChequepointCharlie.....loving it all!

Wouldn’t it be wonderful to hear Emma Thompson, Daniel Craig, Idris Elba, and Dawn French doing interpretive readings of each?! 😍

Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko

I always thought Meghan is simply a narcissist and unaware of her personality disorder.

However, the performance in the interview, and the bit of dirt that recently has been revealed about her (the bullying etc.), and her behaviour in trying to control the media, and the realization of just how much she lies leads me to think that the pathology is much more than mid-level narcissism.

Because of movies and TV shows, we tend to think that psychopaths are all evil murderers or end up in prison. Perhaps this is not so."

With rare exception, everyone who ends up heading a top corporation is a psychopath. They need those traits to get to the top. It' not always a Ted Bundy type serial killer.

Look at bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elizabeth Holmes, Oprah, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Ellen, Michael Bloomberg etc to name a few famous ones.

You read up on top executives heading up corporations especially Hedge Funders and they all display these traits except they've chosen to channel that energy into their jobs.

The demands of the job requires the kind of personality traits a psychopath possesses. A different personality type gives up or gets distracted in a way a psychopath doesn't.

As for our crazy Megs, i think she's a dark triad personality - a combination of psychopath, narcissism and Machiavelli traits.
AnT said…
@Pantsface
@Maneki Neko,
@JennS

You reminded me that a Swiss financial industry friend said Thursday that he thinks the Meghan/British racism kerfuffle is just a flashy way to take world eyes off the brewing outrage about the reputed Muslim internment camps in China.

Ie, the “No title or security for little snowy baby, Duchess depression” woke screeching outrage being a perfect (albeit pathetic) way to drown out the growing reports of alleged “forced labor, organ harvesting, child trafficking and death” in the Chinese camps. With the added bonus of tearing the British monarchy and maybe government down, to start boring a deeper access channel into the world’s banking center in London etc.

So I told him my Meghan and backers tin tiara theory. He replied, without a best, Interesting, and it is plausible. 😳

Magatha Mistie said…

Thanks AnT, very much appreciated! 😘
Wouldn’t it be luvverly!!
Acquitaine said…
@Sandie said...
"Can't remember where I read it, but supposedly Charles gave the Harkles a large lump sum to 'help out' for the first year. They may very well have used that money for the deposit on Mudslide Manor. They then supposedly got huge advances from Netflix and Spotify.

Perhaps the problem is not lack of funds but Meghan's spending habits? I suspect that Harry would not deal with that but project his anxiety about the over-spending onto his family and make everything 's.omeone else's fault'."

I read this too last year. Somewhere else i also read that they borrowed money from Charles to pay for the security on top of that lump sum they received at the end of March 2020.

Remember that the 2019 duchy accounts showed a 40% rise in expenses within "the household expenses". It was later leaked that this was due to Meghan and that Charles had given Harry more money than he'd given William.

Harry suddenly had expensive habits that he accidentally blamed on Meghan eg when he was confronted about the private jets, he said he had to use PJs for his family for security reasons.

Not forgetting that pilot who quit working for them when she was pregnant on the grounds that he was being asked to fly around England to collect food drops for her.

It makes me laugh at the mental image of Meghan's expression when she was handed the keys to Frogmore cottage. This is a high maintenance woman who loves expensive labels. She was upset at getting a wing of the governor's mansion in Australia!! Her post megxit mansions compared to Frogmore cottage....

Harry is definitely stressed at having to pick up the tab of his expensive lifestyle.

He is a legendary skinflint who has finally been forced to open his own wallet.
AnT said…
@Acquitaine,

Absolutely true. There have even been studies published across professions. I’ve had direct working contact with a range of Presidents and CEOs. Many a bit arrogant, or controlling of course,yet more on the normal end of the scale.

However one of the CEOs of a company I worked for turned out to be a textbook psychopath.

A friend and coworker assigned to work on the redesign of his mansion learned something one day, came home hysterical (four of us were young, starting out, and sharing a house to save money). What she told us was.....well, our minds went from “odd” to “that’s weird” to “creepy/disturbing” to “oh my god” as she told us. It was so... well she decided to quit her later job that week and did. I accepted the next good job offer I got, and quit, too. It was that bad. I don’t even want to explain it here. The CEO kept “thriving” for years and was lauded.

So yes, you are right.
She is truly a monster.

I doubted if such women existed on this scale - and then I saw there's a programme about Rose(mary) West on the box here next week. Myra Hindley was just the start- she deceived Lord Longford for years.

M'd certainly suit the purposes of certain shadowy figures as we have postulated.

-------

The family nor hitting back is like Charles not defending himself publicly in the War of the Waleses - it would have been greeted by `Well, he would say that...' (Thanks, Miss MR-D)

Let's hope the Press as a whole picks up the gauntlet, with the evidence.
Acquitaine said…
It's so odd for Megsy and Harry to pretend that a conversation about skintone could only be about race and present their baby as the first mixed race baby in the family.

I guess in their eyes the mixed race grandchildren of the Duke of Gloucester don't count. Until recently the duke and duchess of Gloucester lived next door to William and Kate.

Harry attended the wedding of his daughter, Davina to her Maori husband, Gary Lewis in 2004 ( it was also the first royal wedding Kate attended). He mingled with them during the annual cousins polo in Gloucestershire. That same Moari husband has been on the balcony at Trooping the colour every year of the marriage as well as attending royal family events. Perhaps Garry never noticed him.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/2019031670945/lady-davina-windsor-gary-lewis-royal-split-palace-confirms/0-346-608/davina-gary-wedding-z.jpg

https://cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/CWCFZ5WANFDFSUHQPP2C4RGTIQ.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKljjEHGgZnuZ4V3DWXgKmQPTOOlv-aee8eA&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnBxcanRtrZPJ0lnpdfl9EGn6tVkRB2FuwVA&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTL6uYRODTiUx62nWijpNDgfndsI0qNmCE4bg&usqp=CAU

https://64.media.tumblr.com/f4ecb0a2e8478826515d10ee0c9435e7/tumblr_ofj2azhUgz1t63lddo1_640.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/0a/bf/110abf90358528aa2d87d9749dd38710.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/18/9c/9c189c1607a850502b08e12a4c1f686c.jpg


https://i.pinimg.com/474x/14/5a/8b/145a8be535c88a54ca75450f72f11c7c.jpg


The kids are about 10yrs old now. They attend the annual christmas lunch at BP to which entire family is invited.
AnT said…
@Acquitaune,

Celt Views and others have pointed out that Charles gives the Harkles a once-a-year lump sum payout fir the year every March. That is how it has always been done, for both sons.

So Harry Is either trying to shame Charles into giving more, is unable to curb Megs’ obscene spending, or both. I wouldn’t doubt that Megs runs the accounts and syphons some off to hide for her future, or Doria, Markus, then tells H there is simply not enough for his new clothes.

The fact they bought a mansion in an expensive area, and hired over a dozen staff and agencies, yet only have minor and random income (I doubt they have seen many pennies from Netflix etc) illustrates their childish, spoiled,fantasyland view of life.

Best of all, Harry’s interview whining about the money being cut off made zero sense. They said they were free at last and landing multi-millions. But already they are holding mammoth tv interviews to get more allowance, using blackmail tactics. That Oprah didn’t point this out or ask about it just shows what a shitty, fraudulent interview it was.
Acquitaine said…
This is the most recent picture of Senna Kowhai, The Duke of Gloucester's mixed race granddaughter papped attending the annual christmas lunch

https://64.media.tumblr.com/58c3b1d82dc545797ef89e3f0b0b0705/tumblr_ofj2a9CODl1t63lddo1_500.jpg

Father, Gary, in the driver's seat and her mother, Davina, sitting next to her. Senna and her brother are visibly mixed race, but apparently neither Meghan nor Harry noticed.
Acquitaine said…
@AnT: That confirms to me how they made a down payment on their house a few weeks after March 31st.

If Charles gave them the usual amount of £2.5M which was approx $3M last year plus the sum they borrowed from Charles supposedly for security to top up the difference of $5M.

The money he gets from Diana and The Queen Mother is independently his own ie he has full access to it without oversight.

He bitched about using it to pay for security so i think that's where a big chunk went for the past year.

He whined about the money because this year he will have to cough up for the first time in his life. Last year's cusion didn't help him realise ahead of time and plan accordingly.

One of the recent leaks from CH to explain Charles cutting him off was apparently over the issue of money where Harry was only calling to ask for more money and Charles got tired of it.

Honestly, this all sounds so teenage to me.
Hikari said…
HILARIOUS!

"If Harry and Meghan were Irish"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzmusQzdqXA
Is Senna `the wrong kind' of mixed race in Megsie's eyes?

Re AnT's point about `cresting a diversion' - there have been a couple of pointers that Grab could be a person of interest to the country mentioned.

First, there was the report of her journalist pal being called out for reporting from a gaol on behalf of the government in question. Then there was the unsubstantiated mention from my pal that she'd heard that the said Government was `keeping an eye on Meghan' (my pal used a 3-letter verb) by way of one of M's female chums. I wondered if it was L**n*y?
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman and AnT

Re The Quiet Man, lovely film shot in the west of Ireland, which is still rather wild. The west is beautiful, SwampWoman (Scotland is stunning too)
Animal Lover said…
What's with categorizing Omid Scobie as mixed race? Isn't he Scottish and Iranian? Iranians are primarily Caucasian although Scobie said he is mixed race. He also said he was 22, although h is 39.

Does anyone know what the ratings are for the 2nd playing of the interview? Fridays and Saturdays are usually a bad time for ratings, but with Covid, that might have changed.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha


'Puds, Megs will be too busy,
flogging faux cashmere cardigans
on QVC!'

Faux cashmere? 100% acrylic, more like!



Hikari said…
Those who may be worried about Piers Morgan's future, have no fear--Piers will land on his feet and in fact had a job offer from a new ITV rival start-up network within hours of his theatrical public resignation from Good Morning, Britain. I said upthread that PM torched his career over his relentless anti-Meg remarks, but that was a bit of literary hyperbole--I didn't really believe that his career would be hurt long-term or that he could be permanently cancelled like a Weinstein. In fact, upon reflection, I'm thinking his on-air tantrum and walk-off might have been calibrated as a PR grab. His contract with GMB was up next year anyway and he had met his stated goal upon joining the program in 2014 of beating ITV's breakfast show competitor on the BBC in the ratings. He certainly achieved that last Tuesday.

This is a good piece on him by an author who doesn't appear to like him much but nevertheless admires PM's considerable skills as a wily media operator. It is also pointed out that Meghan is simply Piers' Heather Mills McCartney substitute and that every single line of the Markle feud could be substituted for his feud with Mills just be swapping the names. There are legions of folk on both sides of the Pond who consider Piers Morgan a Grade A prat--but for the moment he is encapsulating the reaction toward the Harkle Show that is not media sugar - NWO approved. We need a relentless, uncowable loudmouth the size of Piers' on the side of sanity. He will be back, and, unconstrained by ITV wokey standards, will continue to blast the Harkles, I'm sure.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/piers-morgan-meghan-markle-resignation-future.html
AnT said…
@Acquitaine,

It really is teenage — you’re right.

These two are well-matched, in the most negative way. Immature, crude, spoiled, immoral, remorseless, ruthless.

Also makes me think the two previous husbands, and Corey, probably pampered her to an extent, but said, “you want x, y, z, well, then get out there and work for it like me.”

She had connections but didn’t work hard enough (LA theatre, post-university acting classes, etc) to become a good enough actor to succeed. I think she is like an 11 year old brat wanting clothes and mansions and sparkly things and travel, the cloak of successful actors, without the effort. Just as she wanted to be an indulged duchess without an assigned work schedule. For fast cash needs there was yachting or hostess and escort work, which she called calligraphy earnings, perhaps.

Trevor helped her get Suits as perhaps an annoyed “go earn money and work!” last effort so she left in a huff (how dare he not simply indulge her as daddy did!) and moved on. Corey probably expected the same. Megs is a hustler certainly, grabbing at a splatter of opportunities but it is always the splatter approach to grab cash instead of also focusing on improving in her career as a working actor —- she had money for Tig wine and travel but not her SAG membership for example. Again, thinking like a spoiled 11 year old.

But her hustle remains splatter shot to this day. Random style, all over the board with projects, contracts with nothing produced. She is the person who gets the job but spends her days gossiping, online shopping, and thinking of excuses for having no work completed, then tries to get an assistant since she is so overburdened.

The teen who never cleans her room and whines about the unfairness, basically.

She meets Harry who is spoiled too, and work shy unless he wants to enjoy himself too, and he seems to have endless money to her, more than past men, so they band together, telling each other they are right, and calling daddy for money. Then throwing tantrums. They remind me of that spoiled teen daughter of Kellyanne Conway, actually, who was all over SM whining about her life.



Maneki Neko said…
@Flore

@lizzie
I thought about Andrew too but Megalo said revealing their name “would be too damaging for them”.
---------

She doesn't mind dishing the dirt, in fact she's very happy to, but won't reveal a name is it "would be too damaging." Isn't there a contradiction here? And people fall for her twaddle!
xxxxx said…
Thanks @Acquitaine and @AnT for this mornings (USA at least) insightful commentary on the Megsy-Load for this past week. So sorry that this high powered-crazed American is able to plague the UK from afar. I will repeat. Megsy is vile but not smart enough to think out this offensive all by herself. She has clever people in Hollywood/her lawyer and Sunshine Sachs helping her out. This lawyer is common knowledge but maybe SS is doing more of her shame the BRF strategy.

Megsy is overshooting by going direct to OfCom on Piers. The major British press and media will react to defend Queen and Country against the Megs lies that racist (yes racist) Oprah helped spread.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

Cheque Point Charlie!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 Excellent!
(sorry this is late, I'm catching up now)
Acquitaine said…
@Maneki Neko said…
@Flore

@lizzie
I thought about Andrew too but Megalo said revealing their name “would be too damaging for them”.
---------

She doesn't mind dishing the dirt, in fact she's very happy to, but won't reveal a name is it "would be too damaging." Isn't there a contradiction here? And people fall for her twaddle!"

She has no beef with Andrew otherwise she would say it. Remember how quickly she put out a statement condemning his interview claiming her friends and her "crouched on the floor in horror as they watched". A day latter the comment was pulled because it was a major faux pax on her part as a member of the family. Lucky for us it lives on in tumblr.

Also, Andrew is low hanging fruit. She's get maximum sympathy and support if she named him because the entire world hates him and he has no reputation to damage any further. He's pretty much at the bottom.

No one would question her race claims if she named Andrew. It would be accepted as gospel truth immediately. No one would call for the Palace to investigate and we'd just add it to his list of sins.

It was also a tiny detail, but she mentioned that she first met The Queen at Royal Lodge.....Andrew's home.
Acquitaine said…
@Animal Lover said...
"What's with categorizing Omid Scobie as mixed race? Isn't he Scottish and Iranian? Iranians are primarily Caucasian although Scobie said he is mixed race. He also said he was 22, although h is 39."

It's Omid who keeps telling everyone he is mixed race and the victim of racism. He has kicked it up several notches since he got on the Meghan race victim train. He mentions it every month now.

Our media keeps making fun of him. They had a field day about how he lied about his age.

Dan Wooton keeps posting his original pre-surgical face:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/0fc8cf9dc648bfc882e24e2d2f7a52f7/c9ae8c6405fbf220-99/s400x600/2f6d144de90e86b2c1e4ffde85e5984f7d5a8b86.jpg


Maneki Neko said…
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Funny that about what constitutes `mixed race' here in UK.

I know someone who believes she should tick `mixed race' because her mother was white Scottish New Zealander and her father Italian.

I imagine Physical Anthropology is a difficult area to be in these days - we can safely say something based on culture though - Indo European languages seem to have a common root, of which Sanskrit seems closest extant language to their origin. Hindi, Farsi (Persian/Iranian language) and English all ultimately have a common roots.
Maneki Neko said…
@JennS

Sorry, sent too early by accident.

The interview was aired the day before International Women's Day and splashed allover the papers on the day. What a magnificent specimen of womanhood and solidarity with women Megalo is!
Acquitaine said…
@Hikari said...
HILARIOUS!

"If Harry and Meghan were Irish"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzmusQzdqXA "

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY
Lil P said…
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xxxxx said…
Funny about Omid who has a great urgency to pass for non-white and non-Caucasian. Just a few years ago on Megs' actor CV she represented herself as white/Caucasian. She wanted to pass for white. Megs really is white with 16% African heritage at most. Being that her mother is about 66% African. Going by photos of course!

The average with US blacks is that they are 70-75% black then white and native America. Example- Tina Turner is 33% white according to her Wikipedia entry.
xxxxx said…
70-75% black then white and native American........
AnT said…


💥Press Gazette tweet:💥

Boris Johnson says “cowardly” abuse of journalists must end as Govt publishes action plan to better protect them from threats of violence and intimidation.

‘The UK government’s first journalist safety plan to better protect journalists from abuse, threats, harassment.’

Oh oh, bad day for the compassionate wokes and sugars.

Maneki Neko said…
@AnT. 4.53 pm

The problem with Megalo is that she has the attention span of a gnat. She tries to have a finger in every pie but has not lasting power and so, doesn't stick at anything. She's very superficial.
Acquitaine said…
After DM formally complained to CBS about their misrepresented headlines in the Oprah interview, Harpo productions which produced the interview has now released a statement saying they stand by the programme in it's entirety.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/global/daily-mail-viacomcbs-meghan-markle-oprah-interview-1234929314/

Let the suing begin. The Irony of DM suing Oprah for libel!?!
LavenderToast said…
@Maneki Neko

Thanks! for posting how we can complain to Offcom. I immediately did so and tried my hardest to have it factual and not give in to snarkiness. I also suggested they produce a piece on the largely unsaid/unreported issues about Meghan such as her bullying history in High School, her scam of the 32 million dollar fake/unnecessary wedding since she now claims they were married 3 days prior, her traveling to NYC baby shower and trips to Elton's despite claiming BRF has passport and that it was Harry who really has the racist past, etc...I also mentioned that since the Harkles popularity has plummeted the public might be more interested in truth(s) other than theirs on the whole situation, etc...
JHanoi said…
I thought the only 'gross misconduct' came from the 2nd night nanny they fired in the middle of the night.
The bullying claims all sound like they are from their office kp/bp staff, not their private house staff.
Hikari said…
Acquitaine,

She has no beef with Andrew otherwise she would say it. Remember how quickly she put out a statement condemning his interview claiming her friends and her "crouched on the floor in horror as they watched". A day latter the comment was pulled because it was a major faux pax on her part as a member of the family. Lucky for us it lives on in tumblr.

Also, Andrew is low hanging fruit. She's get maximum sympathy and support if she named him because the entire world hates him and he has no reputation to damage any further. He's pretty much at the bottom.

No one would question her race claims if she named Andrew. It would be accepted as gospel truth immediately. No one would call for the Palace to investigate and we'd just add it to his list of sins.


I immediately dismissed Andrew as being part of any family discussions of Harry's future child's future race, or family discussions of any sort, really. I doubt very much Andy ever mingled infomally with the Harkles, individually or together at any family get-togethers. Even prior to the Epstein scandal and Andy's interview disaster, the animosity between Charles and his younger brother is well-documented. I can't for the life of me imagine Andrew chatting up Haz about his biracial baby over mimosas at brunch or any time. Even with the Queen and the Harkles and he all cosily ensconced in Windsor Great Park officially, I don't think Andrew ever had any conversations with Harry about their baby or anything else. His demeanor toward them on official occasions we have all seen for ourselves. Andrew is a prat, but sometimes to amuse myself I queue up the 'Scarlet Wall of York' body-blocking Megatroyd on the balcony, aided by his lieutenant, the Princess Royal, and I larf and larf.

Andrew's peccadilloes run to teenage girls, but has he ever been on record as making racially insensitive remarks in the manner of his father, the DoE? I would like to be able to give Andy credit for at least having one area that is not a moral failing.

I think she's keeping schtum about the Duke of York because he's got some dirt on her about all the mutual yachting acquaintances they might have in common. I seem to remember the intimation, at the time of the engagement that the reason Skippy Inskip tried so hard to dissuade Hazza from marrying the creature is that he and some others of his mates had made Meg's intimate acquaintance on the yacht circuit and he told Hazza as much.

Harry's response was to cut off his oldest mate from the age of 13 onwards and bar him from the evening reception, so Harry apparently chose Skippy's Sloppy Seconds over friendship.

How well Andrew may have gotten to know Mugsy before she was introduced as his nephew's fiance is anybody's guess. He probably rejected her as being too long in the tooth for his tastes, but may have been at some of the same 'parties' and know what she got up to and with whom. So in retaliation for his knowledge about her, Mugsy does her very best to create drama and overshadow Andrew's daughter on her wedding day. And that's my take on that. That whole show wasn't just about an emerald tiara.
JHanoi said…
Aqua
Thats been annoying me from the beginning. The BRF welcomed Lady Davinnias husband, why wouldnt they have welcomed MM ? Yet another missed opportunity for Oprah' s fawning afternoon sussex chat
Miggy said…
The damage done! :(

Fury as Charlie Hebdo magazine cover shows Queen kneeling on Meghan Markle's neck in recreation of George Floyd's death.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9358299/Fury-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-cover-shows-Queen-kneeling-Meghan-Markles-neck.html
JHanoi said…
MM
i dont think she could land Elon, she doesnt seem to be into the massive quantities of drugs or young enough for him.

I also dont think she could land Bezos, she fits into his acceptance of middle age, but doesnt seem adventureous and is tied down to 2 young children. No pilots license, not very athletic, etc. She could dump the kids with JH and the BRF, but she seems too bitter and vengeful for that.

Maybe she could break up the Gates marriage with all her altrustic talk.
Or she could get McAfee with all her privacy paranoia pyscho tendancies.
Perhaps Cuban, hasnt he been sympathetic and defended her?
Kanye will soon be available and he's got issues that would fit her narative, but i dont think shes his type.


KnitWit said…
H&M managed to get on worldwide “real” news. Stations found new Markle approved mouthpieces to blather on about H&Ms perceived racism. Their ratings are lower than ever before, Harry having negative ratings for the first time ever according to Twitter ( forgot the English paper rating). They should shut up and go away for a while, but they won’t.

Meantime, the rest of the world is deciding whether or not to get a vaccine or waiting to get a vaccine. It is all the news and neighborhood are talking about lately.

As the millionaire duo whine about their security ( and hopefully their funding from Daddy Warbucks) is cut off, Americans are more interested in the upcoming stimulus check. Many wonder which overdue bill to pay first. Others speculate on the effect of the trillions of dollars of stimulus payments on the deficit. Some whine quietly that their income is above the stimulus cut off when they should be grateful to have an income in such trying times. Everyone is holding their breath, trying to maintain a semblance of normalcy.

Sipping tea on top of a bus, knocking on strangers doors and giggling, rapping badly to bad 80s tv show jingles (rapping not raping autocorrect), complaining about their family/in-laws shows how detached from reality these two fools are. Newly homeless families are living in tents in Los Angelos. Harry’s bus tour should have taken a detour to the less affluent parts of town. The tone deaf clueless priest needs a wake up call!!!!

These two are threatening another Oprah interview? Oprah is still getting called out for this one! Wouldn’t it be fun to have a REAL interview with these fools? Oprah could burn her bridges to Dumbarton by playing the journalist with tough questions preferably on live tv. THAT would get ratings.

I am beyond disgusted that MM claims to have been on suicide watch. As a woman who has endured bouts or genuine depression it doesn’t ring true. While she was having multiple cosmetic procedures, zooming her woke agenda on mental health and kindness with assorted small charities, scheming for world domination while her husband was allegedly campaigning for mental health charity,???? She could talk to her mother the social worker or her obstetrician about her problems. She can afford psychiatric care ( unlike many Americans).

Time to put on my happy music and get on with my life today. The weather is gorgeous in Southern Florida. Hope the nutties are alive and well.
Hikari said…
@Wild Boar

Is Senna `the wrong kind' of mixed race in Megsie's eyes?

I would say so, yes. From my vantage point here in the USA, I am willing to state that owing to our unfortunate history of slavery in this country, discussions of racial inequality and the current climate of promoting 'diversity' while cancelling all references to unsavory historical realities are almost *exclusively* devoted to the African-American experience and African-American grievances. Blacks make up approximately 11% of the U.S. population, but they are the largest minority segment in the country and certainly the loudest. They certainly have the most powerful mouthpieces in media and government representing their issues and their grievances. The black community isn't interested in any racial injustices faced by any other groups but their own, and this mindset also allows them to dismiss any of their own ingrained prejudices toward other racial groups. Because in their way of thinking, black people are immune from being prejudiced. The only prejudice that is valid is the kind that they experience from white people. Do they care about the hardships suffered by Asian Americans or the indigenous American tribes and anybody else who is 'non-white'. No, not really, because they do not want to dilute their racially-motivated grievances by admitting that any other group may have suffered, too.

The reason, which always gets trotted out if anyone bothers to examine the 'why' is that other ethnic minorities had the *choice* to come here and were not forcibly imported against their will. Which is true, to a point. Native Americans have gotten even more screwed by history if that is the argument because they were marginalized and relegated to figurative ghettoes *on their own soil*.

Certainly any discrimination faced by a child with some heritage of the indigenous peoples of New Zealand would not cross Mugsy's radar, because she's not African. Miss Whip Smart has already displayed her contempt for Oceanic cultures very publicly on Royal tour.

As an aside: Gary Lewis is FINE.
Starry said…
Hey Nutties.

Lurking lately - haven't posted in ages but learned some VERY interesting new info.

It looks like H&M may have met as far back as 2015 - at Soho Istanbul.

Meghan was there, as evidenced by photo with Eddie Redmayne that came out a while back. If you check the court circular for April 2015, Harry was also in Istanbul.

WTAF??? Could she have targeted him from then? Was she a pay-for-play at that time?

I've not believed that she was a plant, but this new-to-me info is odd, to say the least.
D1 said…
No idea if his has been posted already.

https://news.sky.com/story/duchess-of-cambridge-pays-tribute-at-memorial-site-for-sarah-everard-12245021
Starry:

Wow! Wow!! and Wow!!!

I believe detectives say `There's no such thing as coincidence'.

https://www.cbs.com/shows/ncis/photos/1003066/gibbs-rules-the-complete-list-from-ncis/28/

See Rule#39

To think, I just looked in to ask `If Grab is a vegan, what does she do with the hens' eggs?'
(Apart that is from chucking them at photos of British people.)
The smoking gun:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6367877/Resurfaced-snap-shows-Meghan-Markle-Eddie-Redmayne-Soho-House-Istanbul.html
lizzie said…
@Hikari wrote:

"I can't for the life of me imagine Andrew chatting up Haz about his biracial baby over mimosas at brunch or any time. Even with the Queen and the Harkles and he all cosily ensconced in Windsor Great Park officially, I don't think Andrew ever had any conversations with Harry about their baby or anything else. His demeanor toward them on official occasions we have all seen for ourselves."

You could be right. I mentioned Andrew earlier simply because no one else had and he was a senior royal at the time. He's also sort of "disposable" if need be. But I don't think we can make assumptions either way about his involvement.

M said she met TQ at Andrew's home, Royal Lodge. And supposedly Sarah taught her to curtsey there. Andrew is Harry's godfather. Supposedly Eugenie and Harry have always been close. As singletons, Andrew and Harry have shared carriages on various occasions like the Ascot. So I don't know that we can rule out the possibility of casual conversations occurring simply based on our observations of the more recent post-marriage and post-pregnancy reveal balcony scenes.

So far as I know, Andrew hasn't made a habit of saying racist things. But neither has anyone else except Philip (and I tend to give him a break for a variety of reasons...including that Harry says it wasn't him.) The only other person I know of who has been openly racist is Harry. I also think though if the remark was made, the context makes a big difference and we don't know what that was.
Maneki Neko said…
You know how our copycat Meg never has an original idea - apparently, the Cambridge children have chickens at Anmer Hall!

Prince George & Princess Charlotte have chickens they raised from chicks at Anmer Hall & they love collecting eggs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/12008976/prince-george-charlotte-chickens-anmer-hall-collect/

Anonymous said…
@AnyaAmasova

Flower's past is very vulgar and exposing her past and what she and Harry did during their time together in the UK will help to dismantle her lies.

I keep hearing that and hoping it will happen. But so far, crickets. Why is that?
Starry said…
@WBBM:

Here's the Court Circular confirming that Harry was in Istanbul:

https://www.royal.uk/court-circular?text=Istanbul&mrf=&date%5Bmin%5D%5Bdate%5D=01%2F01%2F2015&date%5Bmax%5D%5Bdate%5D=31%2F12%2F2015&id=

Holy Moly!!!
Maneki Neko said…
Kate was in South London this afternoon to join mourners laying flowers in tribute to Sarah Everard (a 33 year old woman murdered recently on her way home, allegedly by a police officer - this was unusual in that it appears he may have used his card and/or uniform to lure her).

The point is that the video shows her mingling with people who seem totally unaware of who she is. She is dressed 'normally' and her hair is not styled/curled (there's a video) because this is not about her. I wonder if Mega will find a cause to honour a dead person, for instance, to get one up on Kate.


'Kensington Palace said Kate Middleton 'remembers what it was like to walk around London at night before she was married' and 'wanted to pay her respects to the family and to Sarah', reported Sky.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9358701/Sarah-Everard-Duchess-Cambridge-arrives-Clapham-Common-join-mourners.html
Animal Lover said…
Meant to say Omid Scobie said he was 33, not 22. I love Lady C, even if her info is not 100% accurate, it seems she knows something and is very entertaining.
Miggy said…
@Maneki,

You should know Megs by now. She will think that Kate was copying her. (tying ribbons to murder victim's tribute in SA)
lizzie said…
@Maneki Neko wrote:

"You know how our copycat Meg never has an original idea - apparently, the Cambridge children have chickens at Anmer Hall!"

Yes and as the article that you linked indicates, Charles keeps chickens and is considered quite an expert.

The Middletons also have chickens and ducks as this 2016 article indicates.
https://people.com/royals/princess-kates-secret-weapon-her-amazing-mom-carole-middleton/

Chickens are everywhere!
JennS said…
@Starry
@Wild Boar

Even if Markle did not actually meet Hazza in 2015 Istanbul, I wonder if that could have been the point where she came up with the plan to stalk him! She may have caught sight of him there.
I wonder if she knew Eddie Redmayne went to school with William???? At the very least it appears like she was trying to network her way to the royals back in 2015. Could she have started hitting on those 'famous British men' she told Liz Cundy she was interested in much earlier than we thought?
Jdubya said…
Have anyone listened/watched this analysis of the Interview by the Linquist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6OPvYy_4H4

JennS said…
I wonder why the Court Circular doesn't provide the reason for Harry's trip?

22 April 2015
Kensington Palace
Prince Henry of Wales this evening arrived at Ataturk Airport, Istanbul, Turkey. Mr. Edward Lane Fox and Lieutenant Commander James Benbow are in attendance.
Humor Me said…
@maneki - just read the article and watched the video.

Catherine just blended it - no one took notice that the future Queen of England was paying her respects to a fellow citizen #itcouldhavebeen anyoneof us
Notice the difference - nothing cleared (make way!), no minders present, everyday clothing that you and I might wear, and then she was gone. A statement issues after the visit.

It was not about her.
JennS said…
I found the reason for their trip to Turkey - Harry and Prince Charles...

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2015042324809/prince-harry-prince-charles-turkey-schedule/

Prince Charles and Prince Harry will join forces in Turkey on Thursday for two days of engagements honouring the centenary of the Gallipoli Campaign
SwampWoman said…
Off topic @AnT, @Maneki Neko:

AnT, I understand completely you and your husband watching The Quiet Man together over the holidays. Our holiday go to movie is "Die Hard" (grin).

Maneki Neko, I am so happy to hear that Ireland (and Scotland) is still beautiful. I would love to see it in person. I can almost hear the wind whistling and the crashing of waves on the coast when I read books about Scotland. I can "see" in my mind's eye the green jewel that is Ireland. My BFF from high school and her husband are going to Scotland and Ireland when he retires; they've invited us. I told her that we'd love to go but, with my strong dislike of being in confined spaces such as airplanes for prolonged periods of time, husband and I would regretfully decline. I do believe a pilot would not be inclined to land this plane right damn now so that I could get outside for a bit, particularly if we are midway over the Atlantic.
Acquitaine said…
@Miggy said…
@Maneki,

"You should know Megs by now. She will think that Kate was copying her. (tying ribbons to murder victim's tribute in SA)"

This was the moment it finally sank into my brain that Meghan was a garbage person. Operative word: garbage.

According to the reporters, she arrived with her entourage after the area had been cleared of people. She asked the reporters not to photograph her or mention that she'd been at the memorial until days later.

When it was reported, the reporters said the public who had seen were had been struck by her not publicising the visit. She never greeted anyone. All seemed good.

And then the next day after the news articles she posted a picture of herself at the memorial pinning the ribbons together with word salad about her compassion for the murder victim without much detail about the victim or what had happened to her.

And merched the clothing she wore in the picture on her Meghan's mirror website.
xxxxx said…
It is obvious that Charles said it about Archie, that he might have brownish skin. If this scenario happened at all. Source: Angry Harry as told to Megsy to reveal to Oprah. It was obvious in the interview that Harry is angry that Charles has cut off the funding for the god that they worship called "Security". Security people around 24x7 so that M/H can control all scenarios they are in and control all their outgoing images

Charles made an innocent remark and Megs will try to hold it over him in order to get Archie his title and order for H/M to keep their Sussex titles.

Charles is next in line and can become King any day if The Queen steps aside due to illness. The Queen listens to Charles more than William. Charles is an immediate threat while William is a distant threat. Charles is whom the Sussex are plotting around to somehow get permission to merch their Sussex titles to death in (stupid) America. Charles better be careful because team Megsy might have really good people trying to dig up dirt on him for blackmail.
JennS said…
Here is an interesting article about the resurrected Istanbul picture from 2018 that describes the connections as well as a funny anecdote about Harry and Harry Potter.

https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a24775364/meghan-markle-harry-potter-eddie-redmayne-prince-harry/

And here is an April 14 2015 article about the opening of Soho House Istanbul which is what MM was there for.
So it looks like their trips to Turkey took place during the same month!

https://www.sleepermagazine.com/stories/projects/soho-house-istanbul-opens/
SwampWoman said…
Wowza at the detective work y'all are doing re the Istanbul thing! I just read briefly about it above and, et voila, SOLVED.

/Just got back from husband's second COVID shot. He gained no superpowers from the first shot; we still have hopes for the second. People down to age 60 are being vaccinated starting Monday in our Florida county. The county where daughter lives has been vaccinating people aged 60 and up quietly for the last three weeks, and I get my second shot (but I have to travel for it!) next week. I've given up on acquiring superpowers, but I would like to remember where I left my keys.
Acquitaine said…
@ xxxxx said...
"..... for the god that they worship called "Security". Security people around 24x7 so that M/H can control all scenarios they are in and control all their outgoing images"

All the leaks about their security people dealing with the public indicate that Meghan really enjoyed having security. I mention Meghan rather than Harry because on his own he hated having security and was a real pain for his RPOs and always tried to give them the slip if he could.

He gets with Meghan and suddenly stadiums, restaurants are cleared for her, security motorcades travel with them complete with outriders. Very visible cadres of bodyguards. If nothing else this was the one thing he could give her thst made her extremely happy. Ditto private jets on tap even though on his own he continued to fly commercial budget airlines with the plebs and very discreet bodyguards.

Charles cutting their security off was a shock, but more importantly something he'd failed for Meghan and so he taps into his Diana trustfund to provide her with the same level of security that she had become accustomed to. Finances be damned.
Hikari said…
@xxxx

Charles is next in line and can become King any day if The Queen steps aside due to illness. The Queen listens to Charles more than William. Charles is an immediate threat while William is a distant threat. Charles is whom the Sussex are plotting around to somehow get permission to merch their Sussex titles to death in (stupid) America. Charles better be careful because team Megsy might have really good people trying to dig up dirt on him for blackmail.

Yes . . the poisonous pair turned nasty against Pa pretty fast, didn't they? I'm sure Mugs is still holding a grievance about not getting Chas to FedEx a tiara to Fiji for that state dinner. She asked expressly that that be done. Pa's response, in a more genteel way: "Hell, no."

Charles is directly in line for the throne, but there's always the danger that his inherent soft-hearted nature could buckle under and revert to former indulgence toward the pair, especially if they really pour on a sob story. I'm sure Charles is avoiding Harry's calls because he doesn't want to be subject to a bunch of blue insults, or, worse . .a storm of blubbering down the other end of the line. It is wonderful when one can have equerries run interference and one can legitimately not carry one's own cell phone.

The best move that Charles can make now is to bury the hatchet with Lord Geidt and by way of apology for his former asshat behavior in getting LG sacked from his mother's staff is to reinstate LG as a top aide to Clarence House as Charles puts together his transition team. Mummy is 95 years old next month and practicality dictates that Chas should have the staff he plans to take with him to the Big House in place. He got butt-hurt over LG excluding his staff from some memo or other, but that has to be water under the bridge. What Charles needs now is a wartime consigliere ('Godfather' reference) to help steer the ship against the current threat. If Charles doesn't feel comfortable working directly with LG, then let him come and join William's staff, to join the future Prince of Wales's team. Charles should still take the advice on offer but faces can be saved by having LG be special advisor to William, officially.

Everyone at the Palace, across all the households should have one aim in mind--countering the treasonous undermining of the Harkles.
Snarkyatherbest said…
I think she was looking to charge for security probably 2x what it actually cost and picker the remaining $$. Also security clearing and area makes people take notice and pics and voila someone connected to her sells them to the highest bidder. It is odd no papa in Montecito. Why is that. I still think she would have charge PC £2mm for a ring doorbell and another dog and called it security.
I'd been wondering how fake the Chicken Run story was -her hens or someone else's? Perhaps trying to project an image of kindness towards our feathered friends? Rather like saying Hitler can't have been all bad - he was vegetarian and liked dogs.

Wasn't the the row in the kitchens at Windsor because she said she could taste egg?
SwampWoman said…
xxxxx said:It is obvious that Charles said it about Archie, that he might have brownish skin. If this scenario happened at all. Source: Angry Harry as told to Megsy to reveal to Oprah. It was obvious in the interview that Harry is angry that Charles has cut off the funding for the god that they worship called "Security". Security people around 24x7 so that M/H can control all scenarios they are in and control all their outgoing images


I look at it as making sure that his rather dim son realized this fact instead of going all hysterical upon catching first sight of the child if child did, in fact, present as darker skinned. Daughter in law had that discussion with HER daughter (my granddaughter) and granddaughter's fiancee that, even though daughter is fair skinned to the point of transparency and blue eyed, the genetics* may be there so if he can't deal with the possibility, he should leave now.

*I don't think so, though. I think granddaughter's mother's pale Russian genes and my Scandinavian/Irish genes completely routed the black/American Indian/Jewish/Egyptian/Tunisian genes that inhabit the rest of husband's and my DNA. Granddaughter doesn't carry any brown eyed genes, no curly haired genes from our son, and probably no brown skinned genes either.
Maneki Neko said…
@Miggy

@Maneki,

You should know Megs by now. She will think that Kate was copying her. (tying ribbons to murder victim's tribute in SA)
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Yes, of course, Kate was copying her, not the other way round! Silly me! 😉
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said:
Wasn't the the row in the kitchens at Windsor because she said she could taste egg?


Yes, I do believe it was! So, why in the HELL would she have chickens if she isn't going to eat them or their eggs?

/Although I have pet chickens that I do not eat; I don't think that she is amenable to shoveling sh*t for her compost pile, though.
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman

Take a valium (or two) and get on that plane! (once we can travel normally or fairly normally). It'd be a shame to miss such beauty.

lizzie said…
@SwampWoman wrote:

"Wild Boar Battle-maid said:
Wasn't the the row in the kitchens at Windsor because she said she could taste egg?

Yes, I do believe it was! So, why in the HELL would she have chickens if she isn't going to eat them or their eggs?"

I believe there were supposed to be vegan dishes for the reception. M claimed there was egg in some dish even though the chef said no. I don't think M has ever claimed to be vegan herself. She did say she ate vegan during the week in some magazine interview once. The Tig was full of pics of roasted fowl M purportedly cooked.
Maneki Neko said…
@SwampWoman

'I don't think that she is amenable to shoveling sh*t for her compost pile, though.'
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Sorry, I disagree, I think she's extremely good at shovelling sh!t for her compost pile, e.g. the interview 🤣
xxxxx said…
@Snarkyatherbest
What's so funny about those ring doorbells. Once a week I read about the police picking up a crook due to ring doorbell video. Not a crime right on their ring doorstep but out in the street yards away.
Miggy said…
@Acquitaine,

This was the moment it finally sank into my brain that Meghan was a garbage person. Operative word: garbage.

Quite!
xxxxx said…
@Hikari

The best move that Charles can make now is to bury the hatchet with Lord Geidt and by way of apology for his former asshat behavior in getting LG sacked from his mother's staff is to reinstate LG as a top aide to Clarence House as Charles puts together his transition team. Mummy is 95 years old next month and practicality dictates that Chas should have the staff he plans to take with him to the Big House in place. He got butt-hurt over LG excluding his staff from some memo or other, but that has to be water under the bridge. What Charles needs now is a wartime consigliere ('Godfather' reference)

Have you read Lord Geidt's Wikipedia entry? He needs to be brought back at the price (salary) he will name. He is perfectly militarily suited for this ongoing information war with Megs and her Hollywood operators vs the mostly hapless retainers of the BRF.
Read part of his wiki below. This is who the puffed up fools Charles and Andrew pushed out as the Queens' top advisor. Actually--- serving for a decade as the Queen's Private Secretary (2007–2017).

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An Army Scholar, Geidt enlisted in the Scots Guards and attended the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. He was later commissioned in the Intelligence Corps.[9]

In 1987, Geidt joined the staff of the Royal United Services Institute for Defence Studies, becoming an Assistant Director.[13] From 1994 he worked for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in diplomatic posts in Sarajevo, Geneva and Brussels.[9]

In 1991, Geidt and Anthony de Normann sued the journalist John Pilger and Central Television over the documentary Cambodia: The Betrayal in which they were accused of being members of the SAS secretly engaged in the training of the Khmer Rouge. Geidt and de Normann accepted ‘very substantial’ damages and all costs.[14] In a related libel action Ann Clwyd MP, then shadow minister for overseas development, issued a public apology to Geidt and de Normann and agreed to meet all legal costs.[15]

During and after the war in Bosnia (1992–1995), Geidt was deployed to liaise with the Bosnian Serb leadership, including Radovan Karadžić, Momčilo Krajišnik and General Ratko Mladić, all later indicted for war crimes.[16][17][18] He assisted the High Representative, Carl Bildt, in negotiating with Serbian President Slobodan Milošević for the removal of Karadžić from the Presidency of the Bosnian Serb ‘Republic’ in 1996.[19]

Geidt was recruited to the Royal Household in 2002 as Assistant Private Secretary to the Queen. He was promoted to Deputy Private Secretary in 2005 before serving for a decade as the Queen's Private Secretary (2007–2017).
A minor technicality:

If HM swaps her black court shoes for permanent gumboots, riding boots and slippers next month, she'll still be Queen.

C would be Prince Regent but not King yet.

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We were talking about films set in Ireland earlier, and `turbulent (or otherwise priests). I thought of the great Trevor Howard as Father Collins in Ryan's Daughter

Excellent video of the sequence:

:

The villagers attack Rosie. Fr Collins intervenes:


Mr. McCardle : [Collins strikes McCardle after the mob strips Rosy] You're taking advantage of your cloth, Father!

Father Collins : That's what it's for.


Said with great power.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066319/characters/nm0002145

That film didn't deserve the lousy treatment it got - took ages for Lean's reputation to recover.

In its turn, this film set in Ireland c1916, with mention of gun-running and secret landings, reminds me of how my mother used to tell me never to keep a diary;

`People have been hanged for what they've written in their diaries', she'd say. It took decades for me to realise she must have been thinking of (Sir) Roger Casement - she was 10 when he was executed.

I wonder if Grab is aware of Casement's fate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Casement
Whoops!

Here's the link to the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bRHcKKwpeo
Starry said…
@JennS
Great detective work!

I recall early days - I think it was on CDAN - that Meghan was actually arranged as "entertainment" for Harry by his friends.

The photo posted on twitter is dated 25 April 2015 from Jason Julian Bailey, a photographer. He also posted a link to Instagram that shows he was at Soho on 17 April. It seems to me, then, that the Soho festivities happened that week, when Harry was there.

So, she either met him there as an arranged 'date', or at least as @JennS suggests, she initiated her plan to snag him.
@Flore said…
I’ve finally read The Dossier put together by the DM. It is excellent; it debunked “her truth”. However, CBS and HARPO standing by their lies is infuriating.

The aftermath of this s#it show is tiresome and demoralizing. Has the world gone completely mad? An idiot prince whining about daddy not giving him enough money and the taxpayers refusing to pay his security bills after he quit. A vulgar social climber spouting her venom at her so-called racist in-laws on national television while lying about her mental health.

Did any psychiatrist or mental health expert challenge “her truth”? No one can shake off suicidal thoughts on their own by hopping on a private jet to NYC! It doesn’t work that way. Being suicidal means being severely and clinically depressed. Therapy AND medication are the only way to overcome these thoughts. Sadly, even going through all that does not stop many people from taking their own lives.
It would have been far more “inspirational” (to use her world salad) to talk about HOW she has overcome her severe depression. Being frustrated and unhappy for not getting what you want when you want it doesn’t mean you’re suicidal! This is not a joke. Take me out of here or I’ll kill my self and your unborn child is emotional terrorism.

Oprah is very dangerous. There I’ve said it. Now I will be called an evil racist🙄
She has a destructive rage in her and no ethics. She is worse than Megalo because she has more money and power. Can’t she be sued for misinformation??
xxxxx said…
Puds, you know the finances of the deceitful duo better than I do. They were used to the Duchy money of about 2 million pounds per year plus all security personnel paid for. Meaning free coverage by the Met Police while they lived in England. Paid by UK taxpayers of course.

Then in their Canada move their security costs were covered by the Canadian Government. The figure of 58 thousand dollars has been in the news. Now that they are in the USA the Duo has to pay for all their precious bodyguards and security. How much security and bodyguards do you need when you are holed up in a huge mudslide mansion in a gated community in remote Montecito? Truth--- I think Dorito and her mutt are their bodyguards. Plus other of their alleged barking mutts and rescue chickens. Get geese! They really make a racket when they see intruders on their territory. I see this in my local park.

When the nitwit duo venture out to LA they can hire bodyguards for the day.
SwampWoman said…
@Flore, would it make you feel any better if I said that CBS is widely known by its acronym as "See Bull Sh*t"?

Oh, sorry, I left out the "You EEEEEEVIL racist!" part. Perhaps we should agree to just assume that we are ALL evil racists so it doesn't have to be stated.
Miggy said…
What a great tweet!

Dr Pamela Ayewoh-Bernard MB @DrPamelaBernard

Please keep Megan Markle in the US. The majority of UK Black population do not walk around with "victim" mentality and we're bringing up the next generation NOT to have that! We're all working towards equality, tolerance and understanding. Not hatred and division as of Ms Markle.
SwampWoman said…
@Miggy, and accurate as well.
@Flore said…
@SwampWoman
😂😂😂 yes it does! Thank you!
Opus said…
Kate Middleton is my kind of Royal; Markle not so much. Even so: Middleton turning up in London today (hey, I thought we were locked down and should save lives by staying at home) somewhat disturbs me. The death of the young woman and allegedly at the hands of a policeman is of course very sad and indeed shocking but as Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells will tell you there is more than one policeman presently facing trial for murder, in his case of two young women, which makes a total of two policemen and three murders. I don't recall any member of the RF either at the time of these other two murders or indeed after the arrest last year of the alleged culprit rushing to a candlelit vigil in Royal Tunbridge Wells. Why is the death of one woman noteworthy (is there some political motivation) but other women can be killed without tears. I am having difficulty then in deciding whether this is Misandry, or Misogyny or both.
Hikari said…
@xxxx,

Re. Lord Geidt

I have read his very admirable credentials. The highest ranking personal equerries to the sovereign have always had military associations, and you really couldn't find a more suitable person than he to be the Queen's Chief of Staff (to use his equivalent title at the White House.)

I think the tensions erupted between LG and Mummy's Boys when they took umbrage at him restricting their access to the Queen. Apparently he called a meeting at BP but failed to inform Clarence House staff of said meeting, even though it was not at all clear from the report that the meeting concerned the Prince of Wales in any way. Evidently Chas wanted to be apprised of Mummy's full calendar whether or not he was ever going to be involved in that meeting.

The subsequent handling of the matter (ER allowing her devoted secretary of a decade to be sacked because her petty boys were whining in her ear about not being properly deferred to) led to my first inklings of unease that Her Majesty was going to allow the Harkle Problem to get away from One. Lord G. was given the sinecure appointment as advisor to the Queen's Commonwealth Youth Ambassadors or whatever, the thought being that he was going to be the Queen's official Markle Babysitter and keep an eye on her. Based on that one rather chilling photo we have of their hand-shaking encounter when she was 'expecting', I thought, well, maybe this might work. But obviously the Harkles barely chucked a rock at any of their patronages since they've been married and Lord G.'s influence could only be small if she never showed up for any meetings or events.

Hikari said…
Maybe Charles could have headed off all of this ridiculous drama if he'd said to Harry that Charles would happily cover the expenses for security in full provided that Lord G. would accompany them to North America and have full discretion over all security matters. Accept Lord G. in the post--or get not one single sodding sou out of the Bank of Dad for as long as you live--your choice, son.

This is just a marvelous little fantasy of mine, because I'm sure that LG has a family and no desire to relocate permanently to Lala Land. But if it had been put to the Harkles that they could have their 'half in/half out' proposal ONLY if they passed regular inspections (say, bimonthly) from LG, who'd fly over and prepare extensive reports for the Palace on the Harkles' living arrangements, security arrangements, spending habits, provisions made for the health, well-being and education of 'Archie' . . extensive dossiers on their associates, business deals and etc--well . . of course that wouldn't have gone over. But it's obvious what these two destructive mental toddlers require is oversight on a par with the conservatorship of Britney Spears. Madam could have either agreed to this or buggered right off without a cent.

Lord Geidt should have been dispatched to NottCott circa 2017 for a small chat with Harry about the advisability of breaking things off for good and all with Miss Markle. If he'd been retained in his post as the Queen's chief advisor, chances are very good that we wouldn't be here now. The Palace f*cked themselves over by whitewashing Meg's past. Lord G. should have been allowed to release that info *before* Meg was Harry's fiancee. They had ample time and did not take advantage. The BRF could have headed charges of 'racism' right off at the pass if they had leaked well before November 2017 all they've got on the prostitution, the drug use, the criminal histories of her family members; etc. In former days, when HM was at her full strength, the Men's Health burger grilling video alone would have obliterated Mugsy's chances of becoming a Royal bride.

All of this might have been preventable if only Charles had not interfered in Lord G.'s invaluable services to the Firm. He's gonna have to lie on the bed he's made and watch his own halfwit son destroy the institution he was born to lead. Sorry, Charlie.
@Flore said…
@Miggy
Finally some words of wisdom! Or, as ME ME ME would say, such empowering words! I think I’m suffering from Megalo fatigue syndrome😂
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Hikari said...
@Wild Boar

Is Senna `the wrong kind' of mixed race in Megsie's eyes?

I would say so, yes. From my vantage point here in the USA, I am willing to state that owing to our unfortunate history of slavery in this country, discussions of racial inequality and the current climate of promoting 'diversity' while cancelling all references to unsavory historical realities are almost *exclusively* devoted to the African-American experience and African-American grievances. Blacks make up approximately 11% of the U.S. population, but they are the largest minority segment in the country and certainly the loudest. They certainly have the most powerful mouthpieces in media and government representing their issues and their grievances. The black community isn't interested in any racial injustices faced by any other groups but their own, and this mindset also allows them to dismiss any of their own ingrained prejudices toward other racial groups. Because in their way of thinking, black people are immune from being prejudiced. The only prejudice that is valid is the kind that they experience from white people. Do they care about the hardships suffered by Asian Americans or the indigenous American tribes and anybody else who is 'non-white'. No, not really, because they do not want to dilute their racially-motivated grievances by admitting that any other group may have suffered, too.

The reason, which always gets trotted out if anyone bothers to examine the 'why' is that other ethnic minorities had the *choice* to come here and were not forcibly imported against their will. Which is true, to a point. Native Americans have gotten even more screwed by history if that is the argument because they were marginalized and relegated to figurative ghettoes *on their own soil*.

Certainly any discrimination faced by a child with some heritage of the indigenous peoples of New Zealand would not cross Mugsy's radar, because she's not African. Miss Whip Smart has already displayed her contempt for Oceanic cultures very publicly on Royal tour.

As an aside: Gary Lewis is FINE.


I do not disagree on Gary Lewis' fineness!

The black population is no longer the largest minority; that distinction belongs to the Hispanic peoples.

When I worked downtown in a rather violent inner city during some late night hours, a rather diminutive Asian man wanted me to walk him to his vehicle every night. He wasn't afraid of white people; he was terrified of being robbed/beaten/killed by the black people. I said "WHAT? Everybody is going to assume that you know kung fu or some martial arts!" He said "No, my body screams 'accountant!" (It did.)

My experience as an employer was that the local (American born) black folks really, REALLY were prejudiced against Islander blacks. A guy I hired from Barbados had to leave because he was being harassed so badly by the locals. He didn't just leave my employ, he also left the state.

What is funny (strange, not haha) is that Brazil gets a pass on their history of slavery, even though they imported some 10x the number of slaves that were ever in all of North America.
I was referring to the French `Charlie' - I'm nit too keen on our British one either at the moment.

Could anyone seriously have imagined the scale of her Mega-lomania? Back in 2017, they probably thought they could contain it.
xxxxx said…
Just to remind that the Harry-Markle blog at WordPress. This blog also publishes in parallel at substack which is emerging as a place for bloggers to go and get paid. Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi and Andrew what's his name have moved there
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SwampWoman said…
Blogger Opus said...
Kate Middleton is my kind of Royal; Markle not so much. Even so: Middleton turning up in London today (hey, I thought we were locked down and should save lives by staying at home) somewhat disturbs me.


I heard that Slow Joe Biden said that if we all get vaccinated, we could maybe celebrate the 4th of July. Bwahahaha. Whatever. Of course, his policies are also responsible for letting illegals pour in to spread widely the Brazilian strain of COVID 19. The government really needs to assign an interpreter that speaks dementia fluently to interpret for the people that aren't so afflicted.

In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy the outdoors and celebrate every holiday.
jessica said…
Harry whining about money was really strange. First off, you don’t talk about money publicly ever. Second, Netflix? Spotify? Notice he didn’t talk about Spotify. So we can write that off as non-lucrative or requiring effort to get paid.

He did mention Netflix, but only in the context of ‘covering security’. So we can assume there’s a $1mm/ year first look deal for a few years in the table. The $100mm would have been ‘total market opportunity’ of the deal if their productions see massive massive success (more than unlikely).

Charles refused to pay this month, and Harry was aware of it hence the rage and talk of his Diana trust fund.

Meghan had been using Charles one year payment (guessing $5-8mm) for the house, and her massive staff and Archewell. Harry emphasized Diana’s money was used initially on somethings (maybe the house, maybe security).

It’s very expensive to run an operation. For example, I’m friends with a few startup founders. One business has 70 employees and yearly outgoings on salary and expenses (just one office) of $21.6 million.

Meghan has been merching and doing small deals, but I’m left wondering how she has the ability to manage financially beyond the 18-24 month mark.
Ava C said…
@Miggy - just catching up quickly. You asked where I saw the report that Prince Charles wanted to issue a point-by-point rebuttal - if you Google "Prince Charles issue rebuttal" you'll see it was picked up by a number of newspapers. Also more subtle indications William felt the same.

I did get Opus' point about Meghan the Hydra - there would be no end to it If you start engaging with what she said, but I'm more focused on the damage being done on the diplomatic/trade front. This is what ambassadors are for. I think there should have been a discreet corrective given to the White House for a start. I feel our country is being slandered in front of the world and we are letting it go by omission. No need to acknowledge Meghan's existence too much. She and Harry are two badly brought up, anti-social teenagers who've trashed a house. We put them in the corner, ignore them and discuss how to pay for the repairs with the adults.

@SwampWoman - I was so pent up and frustrated with what the Sussexes have done, out of all proportion with their place in the world, that I had a little John Wayne film festival last night, all on my lonesome. There's a scene in "The Shootist" where he's visited by a show-off manipulative journalist and he deals with him in the classic John Wayne manner. Gets him to bend over and kicks him out of the house by the seat of his pants. So satisfying!
Hikari said…
@Swampwoman

Thank you for the update about Hispanic heritage identifiers taking over as the top ethnic demographic. I think one's conception of the 'diversity' question depends largely on what region of this vast country one hails from and what the population is like where one lives. Growing up in the Rust Belt (between Cleveland and Pittsburgh), African-Americans were far and away the largest minority group. Entire schools in the city of Youngstown (I hail from a more white-bread suburb of Y-town) are almost entirely African-American. We've also got a healthy Asian community in Youngstown, to go along with all the European and Eastern European immigrant cultures whose ancestors came to work in the steel mills. Hispanics were relatively lightly represented since it was more heavy industrial than agricultural in the local economy. Now I live on the opposite side of the state, in a small city on the I-75 corridor referred to as 'Little Chicago'. We're a small city with big-city crime and drug concerns. The city is approximately a 60/40 split between white and black. We've got more Hispanic migrant workers in the area due to it being largely farmland outside of the city where I live but they are not a big presence in the community, being largely transient and perhaps not English-speaking. We get a few Spanish-speaking families in the library where I work but not many at all. Before Covid hit, I was sometimes the only white face in the children's department during the afterschool and evening hours, though. That made it really hilarious when some kid who I had to kick off the computers for acting up would accuse me of picking on him because he was black . . when every other patron in the room was also black. Library staffs are predominantly white, though.


He said "No, my body screams 'accountant!" (It did.)

This is funny.

The Black community all over has an ongoing feud many places with Asian business owners. I think I read somewhere that Korean-owned businesses are the fastest-growing/most successful segment of immigrant-owned businesses, and I can see why. Asian family-owned businesses are not just a job; they are a calling. The entire family, all generations, work insane hours at the store/restaurant . .weekends, holidays . . sheer sweat equity, and they reap the benefits of grinding hard work and dedication. Black youths hailing from a community culture where hard work is perhaps not prized in favor of government handouts see the successful Korean deli owner and decide to give him a hard time and maybe hold up his store to 'get some of what they deserve'. The sight of minorities who have been in this country a fraction of the time as American blacks but who are visibly succeeding doesn't sit well, but many in the AA community have still to learn what Meg and Harry refuse to accept: Hard work earns its own rewards.

My experience as an employer was that the local (American born) black folks really, REALLY were prejudiced against Islander blacks. A guy I hired from Barbados had to leave because he was being harassed so badly by the locals. He didn't just leave my employ, he also left the state.

I can believe it. African-Americans are often distrustful of black immigrants from other cultures, somehow regarding the new arrivals' experiences of being black in their home nations as somehow not as noble as the suffering of the American version of blackness. Slavery again. Um, hello, genocide and whatnot . . starvation? Also the black people who emigrate to the United States from other countries are often highly educated and ambitious. That lays them open to the perception that they are trying to 'take away' opportunities from African-Americans.

I find that goes both ways--educated black people who come from Africa and other places look down on African-Americans often as childlike, uncouth and uneducated.
xxxxx said…
Thanks Hikari for your two long extended posts on Lord Christopher Geidt. I believe that the quitting of Edward Lane Fox (called ELF here) at the Royal Marriage was half similar. He was disgusted at M's duplicity as far as bringing her father in, so he left Harry's employ. Newbies-- ELF set up the Invictus games for nitwit H.

The decline of BRF invincibility can be laid to them evicting Lord Geidt (doing very well in his new career) and ELF
jessica said…
JennS,

Hot Rob just flashed across my screen during Wayne’s World and I yelled out ‘omg! Hot Rob!’ My husband just looked at me, eyebrows raised. 😂

Longview said…

Part 1/4

The Firm stands firm on Harry and Meghan

The royal family is licking its wounds after enduring trial by TV. The Queen will speak to Harry and Charles feels traduced over claims he cut his son off — but has the Sussexes’ whirlwind blown itself out?

By Roya Nikkhah, Tim Shipman and Tony Allen-Mills
Saturday March 13 2021, 6.00pm GMT, The Sunday Times

The sense of anger and bewilderment unleashed by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in the wake of their American television interview last week may best have been summed up by a royal insider struggling to respond to a crisis that Buckingham Palace spent much of the past year desperate to avert.

“The question nobody seems able to answer is what are the Sussexes trying to achieve with this?” the Palace source asked. “We don’t know what they want. If you think the Queen is great, then why are you trying to trash everything she and the family stands for?”

Oprah Winfrey’s interview with Meghan and Harry brought the 21st century crashing through the gates of medieval castles and palaces, pitting the mystique of the monarchy against the boundless reach of modern celebrity. It was not the age-old concerns of rank, title or the size of the royal purse that resonated most in their brutal remarks but the newer, more dangerous assertions about racism and mental health that now confront the House of Windsor.

All this has unfolded while the Duke of Edinburgh, hospitalised 26 days ago at the age of 99, awaits his release after a heart procedure. The fury within the palaces was palpable at the painful timing of what appalled courtiers described as “Soprah” or “the Sussex circus”.

A treasonous act
One of the Queen’s closest aides described Harry and Meghan’s behaviour as “verging on treasonous”. Another Palace source spoke of “an incredible act of disloyalty” and called the uproar “manna from heaven for republicans”.

Yet behind the widely shared concern at the anguish these upsets must have been causing the Queen, there were signs of contrasting approaches over her family’s response to Harry and Meghan’s claims that a member of the royal family had wondered about the colour of their baby’s skin and that the duchess had been driven to suicidal thoughts. It was not until Tuesday evening — more than 36 hours after the initial US broadcast — that the Queen’s formal statement was published.

In 61 words, the monarch offered a conciliatory and exquisitely diplomatic reply that expressed sadness for the difficulties suffered by her grandson and his wife, concern for the issues they had raised — “particularly that of race” — and promised they would be taken very seriously. The only hint of a rebuke was the Queen’s remark that “some recollections may vary”, obliquely suggesting that others with knowledge of the incidents cited by the Sussexes might dispute the couple’s version.

Tackling race head on
Almost all members of the royal family and their advisers agreed the race claims should be specifically addressed in a response. “The younger [in the family] you are, the more you take this view; the older you are, the further away you are from it. Everyone knows this is not for the next five days, it’s for the next 50 years,” said someone who was involved in the discussions.

Two days later, the Duke of Cambridge bluntly declared during a visit to an east London school that “we are very much not a racist family”. He was wearing a mask, so it was impossible to see if his teeth were clenched.

In those two brief but contrasting responses to a two-hour interview, the generational contrast was writ large between a royal tradition of saying as little as possible and a modern tendency to have their say. There were some areas of the Queen’s response, a Palace source acknowledged later, “where members of the household felt there could have been a stronger, firmer rebuttal. But it is the Queen’s family, after all.”
Snarkyatherbest said…
@Opus. Maybe William is taking more charge this past week or so. The old BRF wouldn’t have done a thing maybe a paradigm shift. Dad we did things your way and look where it’s gotten us. We at KP will now do what we think is right. And yes what the hack is going on with the metropolitan police department. Two cops and three murders and definitely not blurred by “in the line of duty”.
Longview said…

Part 2/4

If the Queen and her senior advisers had hoped the row might settle down after her public commitment to dealing with Harry and Meghan “privately”, they were quickly disappointed.

Within hours of the Palace statement, Meghan’s friend Janina Gavankar, who had watched the interview with the Sussexes in California, appeared on ITV’s This Morning show with Meghan’s blessing. She arrived with a quiver of darts — and sprayed them in all directions.

She said the Sussexes were “feeling free” after spilling their beans. As for the Queen’s statement, she added: “Although their recollections may vary, ours don’t, because we lived through it with them. And there are many emails and texts to support that.”

In a flash, the Palace’s longstanding policy of refusing to engage publicly with critics made perfect sense. It responded publicly to Meghan and Harry, and good intentions got them nowhere. “There’s a clear threat that if you challenge [Harry and Meghan’s] narrative, they’ll release more [allegations],” said a Palace source.

Rumbling away in the background are equally inflammatory allegations of bullying made by former members of the Sussexes’ staff. “A lot could come out in the wash that hasn’t been told,” one royal source warned. Meghan and Harry have strongly denied the allegations, which appear yet another obstacle to any kind of negotiated reconciliation.

In short, what a mess they are all in. It’s tempting to conclude that honour, prestige and tradition are diminished weapons in the age of Twitter, TikTok and Oprah. That spells trouble for an institution that relies on echoes of a glorious past to preserve its place in the hearts of Britons. No one under the age of 69 has known another monarch. Elizabeth’s reign has lent Britain a stability that was sorely tested by the abdication crisis of 1936 and the Second World War.

“There’s still an Edwardian character to so much protocol and routine,” one source said. “They still migrate from residence to residence, castle to palace, as they did with Henry VIII and Elizabeth I.”

It was surely no surprise that Meghan should have stumbled upon entry to such a fabulous but regimented family, yet what she and Harry have done, consciously or otherwise, is pick the worst possible moment for the monarchy to challenge its regal heritage.

Operation Protect Elizabeth
Until last week, the rest of the Queen’s family and staff had one objective: to protect her from any kind of harm. Senior courtiers are concerned that the Oprah affair has placed huge pressure on the Queen and have privately made clear that Prince Charles and Prince William cannot expect her to thrash out a rapprochement during a video call to California. The Palace has indicated that she will speak to Harry and Meghan imminently.

“She’s a very alert and on-the-ball 94-year-old but she is 94,” a source close to the Palace said. “She’s going to be speaking to Harry but there is a recognition that it isn’t going to be her brokering a peace between William and Harry.” As a senior aide put it: “The Queen will lead, looking at the issues, supported by the family.”

In moments of constitutional crisis, there exists a “golden triangle” of politically astute advisers who go into action to ensure the monarchy and the government are on the same page. They are currently the Queen’s private secretary, Sir Edward Young; Simon Case, the cabinet secretary; and Boris Johnson’s principal private secretary, Martin Reynolds.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Oh and I am now waiting for the MM pap walk and the William cheats rumors again. Any else left in her playbook?
Longview said…
Part 3/4

Links are particularly close at present because Case used to work in Kensington Palace as Prince William’s private secretary. This time David Porter, the chief of staff at Lambeth Palace, was also part of the discussions, thanks to Meghan’s startling but inaccurate claim that Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, had staged a secret wedding three days before the world watched her get hitched to Harry at Windsor. The first ceremony was merely a private exchange of vows.

The dead bat strategy
The royal household, No 10 and Lambeth Palace agreed that the best thing to do was run what is known to cricketers as a “dead bat” strategy, minimising their response so as not to fuel the furore. Johnson repeatedly declined to make any comment and ministers were told to do the same. Lambeth Palace refused to correct Meghan’s mistake about the fake wedding, leaving Team Sussex to clarify their error.

The dead bat strategy was derived from a view long harboured by the Queen, other senior royals and courtiers that the handling of Diana, Princess of Wales’s death in 1997 had only served to intensify public controversy.

While Tony Blair, who was prime minister, is seen in political circles as having “saved the monarchy” by urging the Palace to do more to show it cared after her death, his decision to describe Diana as “the queen of hearts” was seen by the royals as throwing petrol on the fire.

“The Queen has never forgiven Blair and nor have the others,” said one source close to senior figures in the royal household. “They accept that they should have come down from Balmoral sooner and that lessons needed to be learnt, but they think Blair dialled the [Diana] temperature up, not down. They were determined not to do that this time.” Instead, the source added, “They wanted to dead-bat it until it falls off the agenda.”

As the wording of a Palace statement was under discussion on Tuesday, a shell-shocked Prince Charles, 72, carried out two engagements in London, the first at a vaccine pop-up clinic at Jesus House, a black majority church in Brent Cross. This was no scrambled response to racism allegations: it was planned long before Oprah, as were other forthcoming visits to minority communities.

Charles: I did fund Harry
Hours earlier, Harry had described his relationship with his father as “a lot of hurt” and how he felt “really let down” when Charles at one point “stopped taking my calls” and “financially cut me off”. When Charles was asked by a reporter what he thought of the interview, he played the deadest of bats, but a source close to him said: “He’s very upset and cut up ... but he’s keeping his private life private and getting on with the job. It was a surprise to hear he’d been cut off, given the bank statements.”

On a point of fact, the source added, Charles had continued to provide Harry and Meghan with private financial support after their move to America, “while they found their feet”.

A friend of the prince was less diplomatic: “Harry said his father financially ‘cut him off’. What f***ing hypocrisy. When Harry and Meghan left last year, they wanted to become ‘financially independent’.”

Other aides apparently unaware of the dead bat strategy disputed the Sussexes’ recollections — and a string of ‘she cried, no, she cried’ disputes unfolded.

Meghan told Oprah that a widely reported story of her making Kate cry over a flower-girl dress disagreement days before her wedding was the “turning point” when “everything changed”. She said “the reverse happened”, that Kate had made her cry and suggested that Palace aides deliberately failed to correct the story. Royal sources insisted last week that their “recollection” of the event had not changed.

Longview said…

Part 4/4

Meghan said that while feeling she “did not want to be alive any more” during her pregnancy because of the pressures of royal life and negative media coverage, she sought advice from the Palace HR department about professional help, but was told they could not assist because she was not “a paid employee of the institution”. She also said she later sought help from a friend of Diana’s, believed to be the psychotherapist Julia Samuel, who is Prince George’s godmother.

“The HR team are slightly incredulous about that,” said a Palace source. “Why would you not contact Tim Evans [apothecary to the Queen”] or the medical household?”

A friend of Samuel’s said: “Why does Meghan claim that she could get no help with her mental health, a very serious matter, when Harry speaks with Julia all the time? It’s a sad scenario.”

Further upsetting household staff was their inability to reply to the Sussexes’ criticisms. Bound by the discretion that royals depend on, “they feel frustrated their story is not being told”, a royal source said.

Another Palace insider added: “People in the households feel they can’t say anything because if they do, they’ll be accused of not taking the issues of race or mental health seriously. They are aggrieved and bewildered because they know what they know, but they are being portrayed in a way that they don’t recognise — as racists.”

Courtiers left fearful
Senior royal sources say the Sussexes’ portrayal of “the institution” has created “a culture of fear” among royal staff. “There are people, including young women in the households, who are now feeling nervous and afraid about going out on [royal] engagements because of what might happen due to what has been said. Staff are fearful of attacks on social media and what bomb might land next.”

Another source said: “Harry was worshipped by most people in the household; now most people are horrified by him.”

Meghan also told Oprah that aides had once advised her not to go out for lunch with friends to minimise her exposure. A senior aide said that Meghan’s claim was an outrage. When her mother, Doria Ragland, was over for Archie’s birth, she was in Windsor keeping a low profile. “It was Meghan who wouldn’t let her mother go into Windsor,” they claimed.

Those who defended the Windsors include Peaches Golding, who as the lord-lieutenant of Bristol has worked with members of the royal family for years. Golding, previously appointed by the Queen as the city’s first black female high sheriff, told the BBC: “I have never worked with a kinder, more respectful group of people. I have never encountered racism at all.”

Neither side can hope to emerge well from this kind of carping crossfire. The palace appears to have been betting that Harry and Meghan will eventually run out of interesting things to say and their television exposure will soon be reduced to worthily “woke” documentaries. Certainly the royal exiles’ poll ratings have nosedived, although their support among the young remains strong.

A source close to the royal household said: “There are now a limited number of claims in their arsenal. Once you’ve accused people of racism and ignoring a suicidal woman, what else can they say? There will be a law of diminishing returns for Harry and Meghan.”

That may not happen as quickly as the “golden triangle” of advisers expects. The relationship between the occupants of Buckingham Palace and the royal residents of Montecito, California, seems certain to continue enthralling or appalling a wide audience for some time, not least because Meghan is pregnant with the couple’s second child, a girl.

One royal source concluded that the Oprah interview “has done real harm to the family, the individuals, the institution and the country”.

In the battle between an ancient institution and its most modern members, Buckingham Palace may need to adjust its reliance on mystique, tradition and the popularity of the Queen.

The royal aide concluded: “The institution needs to look hard at itself and listen.”

Ends
Mom Mobile said…
I was wondering when someone was going to address this!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9359171/How-Meghan-Markle-kept-silent-best-friend-Jessica-Mulroney-accused-racist-bullying.html

xxxxx said…
@Hikari
This is a hostile takeover by Megs and Harry.
All advised by their Hollywood gurus who know this stuff.
Due to her having Sussex titles, via her Harry Hapless and (sorry) the haplessly advised Monarchy. M now has shares (via titles) in the Monarchy. She cannot execute a full hostile takeover as is done in the American business world, but Megs will intimidate, leak and extort. For the money and the fame. The BRF needs Lord Geidt now more than ever.

My summary for BRF-- You snooze you lose.
Longview said…

Comments:

The Times is allowing comments, the most recommended (liked) include:

*I would suggest that the answer to the question of what Megha wants is spite. She is full of spite because she didn't get what she wanted: fame, royal titles for herself and her children and independence to do whatever she wanted.

*I went on holiday to California in December 2019. I spent many weeks before I went researching routes, places to stay, places of interest, booking restaurants and internal flights. Meghan marries into one of the oldest and most respected monarchies in the world and she doesn’t prepare at all? What absolute rubbish!

*The Duchess of Manipulation needs to be dealt with robustly like all bullies. I am glad to see the UK press is examining forensically the numerous inconsistencies in her “truth” And as for the Duke of Dimwittedness he is clearly the most manipulated of all.

*My feeling is that in the U.K., Harry and Meghan’s despicable behaviour has actually garnered support for the Royal Family. The public can see how objectionable it is to publicly attack your family in this way. My hope is that the rest of the world especially the Commonwealth countries will see what we do. The Duke and Duchess Groan and Moan...

*She wanted to be royalty in the US the same as the Cambridges in the UK. She was pissed that she was not able to be part time royal, her kids do not have the prince titles, cannot go on prestigious tours, cannot use word royal for her brand, and cannot retain prestigious security. So she destroyed the whole thing. She said that the monarchy is archaic and oppressive, yet she retains the title Duchess and still uses a crown in her statements.

*When they were married it was as if she was marrying into the Royal Family when in reality he was marrying into the world of celebrity. It would have been much easier for all concerned if Harry had just handed back his titles at the outset and they had married as ordinary celebrities in Los Angeles and got straight on with their celebrity life without involving the British Royal Family, taxpayer or public.

Mom Mobile said…
@Longview Thanks for sharing the excellent article and comments! I'm so glad the UK is supporting the BRF overall. I'm in the US and I'm so disgusted by how everything is being covered.
Miggy said…
@Ava C,

if you Google "Prince Charles issue rebuttal" you'll see it was picked up by a number of newspapers.

Thanks. I usually google everything but somehow managed to miss that one! :)
Maneki Neko said…
Meghan Markle demands to see emails and texts on bullying allegations after a senior Palace aide accused her of 'unacceptable behaviour' towards two personal assistants - as Prince Charles's staff sift through files

The Duchess of Sussex has written to Buckingham Palace demanding to see any documents, emails or text messages relating to the bullying complaint against her, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

A senior Palace aide had accused her of 'unacceptable behaviour' towards two personal assistants and undermining the confidence of a third. The Palace has now launched an inquiry into the claims.

But in a clear indication that the Duchess is preparing to fight back against what she has termed 'a smear campaign', a senior Palace source confirmed that her office had 'written to request the evidence'.

In response, the Queen has passed the request to the Prince of Wales, whose closest aides are now conducting a search of files.
...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9359223/Meghan-Markle-demands-emails-texts-bullying-allegations.html

Megalo demands, note. Not 'asks' or 'would like to see' but 'demands'. Is she heading for a breakdown? She can't be normal.
jessica said…
Maybe Meghan’s Pr strategy was to present the narrative that bad press while pregnant makes Meghan Suicidal, to prevent the US from reporting negative Meghan stories for the next year...
Pantsface said…
@WBBM - Good Old Charlie, left wing, non conformist and French to boot! Whilst I consider their latest cartoon "ill-conceived" at best, trying to be polite :) we either want freedom of speech or we don't but it does also come with consequences as they found out to their cost in 2015 sadly. Who is to judge what is satire and what is offensive? I honestly don't know, my values will be different to many others but who is to say what is acceptable and what isn't, whilst I will always defend freedom of speech, it's all a bit of a minefield.
Adding a voice in my tiny blog bubble:

http://a-woman-of-a-certain-age.com/2021/03/spoken/

Would love you ladies to add yours.
Maneki Neko said…
The Knockoff Duchess website shows a tweet from Richard Eden saying the DM's owners are taking extremely seriously the doctored images and headlines used in the interview.

Somebody else tweets that Associated Newspapers has sent 'another, stronger, letter to CBS' regarding the same issue.

I am so glad to see that they're fighting back. Hell has no fury like a newspaper scorned.

https://monstermarkle.tumblr.com (scroll down)
Ava C said…
New DM article fills me with foreboding and yet more frustration:

"The Mail on Sunday can reveal that Charles plans to contact Harry within the next few weeks. ‘His mood is that of a father, not that of a statesman,’ said a friend."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9359133/Prince-Charles-deeply-hurt-Harry-Meghans-interview-plans-mend-relationship-soon.html

Seems to me only William is capable of recognising there is a price to pay for the gilded world he lives in. I've had enough of the Queen as grandmother and Charles as father. The country is running out of patience. If they continue to put their personal feelings first, the monarchy is no longer functioning as it should.

Yes I have sympathy and it's beyond terrible that the Queen is in this position. Accept this. Get Lord Geidt back as others have said. Let William step up on the Queen's behalf. At the moment they are drifting. Something the Windsors tend to do at times of stress.

The world moves far faster than it did in 1997 when Diana died. They almost left it too late then. They're making the same mistake now. Being silent. Not recognising how people feel. I was in the crowds outside Kensington Palace in 1997. The sense of anger was palpable. Everyone was talking about the monarchy failing the country. Now in the 21st century, we need them to step up and deal with this mess. Show they can deal with it. Make clear a line has been crossed. Otherwise they will lose the support of the people and all they will have in return is two vipers held far too close.
Ava C said…
I like this point in Carole Malone's new article in the Express. Needed saying:

"I know the rule now is that we can't question or criticise anything Meghan says because it's racist but I'll say it anyway: I don't believe Kate made Meghan cry. I still believe it was the other way round.

"And what was interesting during that car crash interview is that Meghan talked about her suicidal thoughts while pregnant with Archie. In 2019 she told ITV journalist Tom Bradby that any woman when pregnant is vulnerable so the amount of attention directed at her made it "really challenging". She also talked about the challenges of having a newborn baby.

"So for a woman so protective of her own mental health after giving birth it's a great pity she failed to tell Oprah that the bridesmaid spat happened weeks after Kate had given birth to Louis.

"While Meghan expected help and understanding from the Palace in HER postnatal state, she afforded her sister-in-law Kate no such luxury. There are those who insist that yes, Kate WAS in tears after that row, and not Meghan."

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1409348/meghan-markle-diana-kate-middleton-prince-william-royal-family-allegations-comment

As usual, one rule for Meghan and a different rule for everyone else.
lizzie said…
I don't think this has been posted.

BUCKINGHAM PALACE are bringing in a team of independent external investigators to investigate claims that Meghan Markle bullied royal staff, it has been reported.

Palace officials have opted to employ a third-party law firm to conduct the investigation into the allegations from former and current aides in the impenetrable institution, according to royal insiders.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/2507378/buckingham-palace-bring-independent-investigators-meghan-markle-bullying-probe/
just sayin' said…
Phew! I can’t keep up with all the posts! Excellent job, Nutties.

My jaw dropped reading @Maneiko’s post about the Cambridge chickens, because I had just googled which celebrities raise chickens - because we all know Smug has no original thoughts! Lol

The answer? Jennifer Garner (whose persona is ‘perfect mom’) famously has chickens. They all have names and Jennifer regularly posts about them on social media.


just sayin' said…
Sorry - that should read: @Maneki Neko

I apologize for the error typing your name. I enjoy your posts very much!
AnT said…
@Ava C,

Thank you a thousand times for saying so well what I am feeling today:

I’ve had enough of the Queen as grandmother and Charles as father.

Causing or adding to socio-political havoc during a pandemic, and shoveling masses of taxpayer (or not) cash into Megs’ sociopathic pursuit of world domination while people lose their own solvency— it is beyond fluttery granny love-blindness. Shame on them at this point.

And thank you for posting Carole Malone’s Express article as well.
Jdubya said…
the Harry's Grey Suit page has a plethora (you like that word?) of new video's people have made. Some of them are down right hysterical.

I'm sharing the link for your viewing pleasure. Just copy & paste. You do not need twitter (I don't have it).

https://twitter.com/hrrysgreysuit?lang=en
IEschew said…
I am so glad family has removed itself from the bullying investigation! Best to bring in a third party, especially as “olive branches” are being offered to Harry. Did everyone see the reference to far worse stories of bullying than what we know so far? The article says that “according to a royal source speaking to The Times: 'The actual worst incidences haven't come out. There are some harrowing stories to tell.'
'There's a lot that could come out in the wash that hasn't been told,' another source told the newspaper.”

Meghan has asked to see the evidence but the article say it’s unlikely the investigators will share it.

So someone is keeping the backbone straight at BP.

My question is, will the results of the investigation be released to the public? What do those of you in the UK think?
jessica said…
Meghan wants to be in the investigation so she can plot her PR response every step of the way.

JennS said…
Good news in this new Times article below!! but I hope they release their findings once they finalize the investigation and review. Otherwise, the public will continue to see Markle as the victim rather than the perp. I can understand not wanting to leak info during the process but they really need to reveal the end results!

From the London Sunday Times:

Part 1

Palace raises stakes in Meghan bullying inquiry

-Outside law firm leads unprecedented review, and William and Harry finally make contact
-The Sussexes are not expected to be invited to take part in the inquiry

Roya Nikkhah, Royal Correspondent
Sunday March 14 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times

Buckingham Palace’s inquiry into claims that the Duchess of Sussex bullied royal staff is to be handed to independent external investigators, raising the stakes in the standoff that has engulfed the royal family.

In a surprise move that will increase tensions between Harry and Meghan and “the Firm”, royal officials have decided that a third-party law firm should conduct the investigation, rather than the in-house inquiry the Palace first announced.

Several former and current royal aides who were prevented from giving evidence in court during Meghan’s recent legal case about privacy are expected to speak to the inquiry.


Last night it emerged that William and Harry had “been in contact” for the first time since last Sunday’s TV interview with Oprah Winfrey, in which the Duke of Sussex and his wife made allegations of racism in the royal family.

Last month two senior members of staff claimed they were bullied by Meghan. Another former employee said they had been personally “humiliated” and claimed two members of staff had been bullied. She denies the allegations.

But a royal source claimed: “The actual worst incidences haven’t come out. There are some harrowing stories to tell.” Another Palace source said: “There’s a lot that could come out in the wash that hasn’t been told.”

In a twist that threatens to sour relations further, the Sussexes are not expected to be invited to take part in the inquiry, despite having written to the Palace about it. The review aims to “learn lessons” by taking evidence from members of staff past and present.

Details of the independent inquiry came as allies of the Prince of Wales accused Harry of “hypocrisy”, challenging his claim that his father had “cut him off” financially. They said Charles was “upset and cut up” about Harry’s remarks during the couple’s interview.

A source close to Charles said: “It was a surprise to hear he’d been cut off, given the bank statements. The prince continued to provide Harry and Meghan with financial support after their move to America, while they found their feet.”

A friend of Charles said: “What f***ing hypocrisy. When Harry and Meghan left last year, they wanted to become ‘financially independent’.”

In a further move against Harry and Meghan’s claims, royal sources have expressed dismay at the couple’s allegation that they received no help from the institution when she felt suicidal. Harry added he had not told his family about her mental health struggles because he was “ashamed”.

A royal source said: “To throw that at the family, I just couldn’t believe it. His mental health, and hers, were such an open part of the office.🤣

“Given the number of staff that worked with them, it was a very open part of the conversations generally.”
🤣[I'm sure it was!]
JennS said…
Part 2

The complaint against Meghan was first made in October 2018, by Jason Knauf, then the Sussexes’ communications secretary, who wrote in an email to a senior courtier: “I am very concerned that the duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year,” describing her behaviour as “totally unacceptable”. He added: “The duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights.”

The email was forwarded to the HR department but the complaint did not progress. The Palace has faced criticism for failing to take action at the time. The move to an inquiry is a sign of how seriously the allegations are being taken.

It is understood that the Palace is determined the inquiry should “not be played out in public” to ensure all those taking part “feel comfortable”.

It is thought the inquiry will begin imminently, with no set time frame. A royal source said: “It will take as long as it will takes.”

A Palace spokesman said: “Our commitment to look into the circumstances around the allegations from former staff of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex is being taken forward but we will not be providing a public commentary on it.”

A spokesman for the Sussexes declined to comment. But when the claims were first made, lawyers for the duchess, who denies bullying, said the reports were a “calculated smear campaign” and the media was “being used by Buckingham Palace to peddle a wholly false narrative” about Meghan.

A source with knowledge of the allegations welcomed the move to hand the inquiry to a third party: “It’s a reassuring sign about the Palace’s attitude to it, they’ve got a lot of work to do.”
JennS said…
jessica said...
Meghan wants to be in the investigation so she can plot her PR response every step of the way.
....................
Maybe that's part of the reason why they plan to keep the investigation under wraps.
I can't imagine them not sharing the results in the end though. I'm sure the aides themselves will want the truth out there. It sounds like the staff has been busting at the seams to tell their side since the Harkles left the UK.
SirStinxAlot said…
If she gets the evidence, she will try to love bomb the staff involved so they don't speak ill of her when questioned. She can also try to smear them with gossip and rumor." Oh, x person is an adulterer", "y person was a slut", "z person was fired from a previous job, we rescued them"
Natalier said…
Read somewhere that Meghan has threatened to do a part 2 where she will name names, lol. I won't be surprised if she does it - more lies from her.

However, whatever lies she puts out will harm the monarchy. The soft approach does not work for her.

I feel that the Place needs to bury her with the bullying part. Jessica Alba and many more actresses lost huge amount of support when claims of bullying came up.

The palace needs to allow stories to drip out. A leaked video would be the kraken for her.

Unfortunately, the palace moves with laden feet. Someone should tell them their machinery needs a total overhaul and time waits for noone ,today. Everytime she makes another lie, more naive ones esp the young will swallow it whole.

RELEASE THE VIDEO!
jessica said…
Natalier,

It seems rather odd Meghan wants a second interview, no? I guess it’s ‘needs a voice always’ Meghan we are talking about, but at a certain point the world will get annoyed at a grown woman setting the stage to talk about herself and her petty fights as-naseum. The only attention these two get is when they speak ill of the Monarchy, so I suppose they aren’t going to give that up and maybe it will continue.

The craziest thing they could do is have Harry release a ghostwritten book with all the family drama and secrets displayed. I’m starting to think this will happen considering how we saw him behave in the interview. It would make them an enormous amount of money no matter how crass.
Midge said…
Just saw on Scorpiotwentythree that Heather Wong resigned from Travalyst February 28th.
SwampWoman said…
There is no way to sugarcoat this, BRF. Meghan is a trashy sl*t. She will always be a trashy sl*t no matter what sort of designer duds you try to dress her up in. Jesus himself couldn't save that mess. As for Harry, what a nasty little ill-bred worm. I doubt that he has any viable sperm because he would have to have actual testicles for that.

I think the BRF should give them both to Oprah, as is, no warranties, all sales final.
jessica said…
Midge, according to her LinkedIn Heather Wong took up a job at a VC firm in January.
Mom Mobile said…
@JennS

Thank you so much for another Times article! I enjoyed you emojis. 😂

It’s interesting that MM claims such compassion for those who don’t have a voice yet wants to insert herself by “demanding” to be part of the investigation. Anyone familiar with abuse cases knows the importance of separating the victims from the accused. If MM truly was an advocate for women she wouldn’t interfere in the process. I view her demands as further evidence of her bullying.

Surely these celebs are beginning to see through her at this point? CBS got their dirty money. Now it’s time for the news cycle to move on from her narrative (which she falsely perpetuates).
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Charles not taking calls from Stab -

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prince-charles-reputation-taken-major-213605315.html

Headline :
`Prince Charles' reputation has taken a major hit, but refusing to take Harry's calls is far from the future king's first mistake'

It's a good way to avoid having one's words twisted!
Put it in writing!
Maneki Neko said…
@just sayin'

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Don't worry! :)

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@SwampWoman

'She will always be a trashy sl*t no matter what sort of designer duds you try to dress her up in.'

Very good, that's a fitting description of our Meg. Well, you can't put lipstick on a pig.


HappyDays said…
Rebecca said…
A comment from the Mirror article on Meghan’s demanding the emails from the bullying investigation:

Harry is witnessing first hand what kind of a future ex-wife Megan will be.
Maybe they should call sprog #2 "Litigate"
March 14,

@Rebecca: You are spot on. Narcissists usually react with a scorched earth response whenever they feel their cover of their carefully-curated public facade is being dismantled to reveal their life as one big endless lie, or that their main narcissistic fuel source could be diminished or removed or any of the other underpinnings that support their narcissism may be lost or reduced. They are already destroyers, but it is kicked into high gear if anyone dares challenge their superiority, self-styled authority, or control.

I think Meghan the reason Meghan wants the names of the people accusing her of bullying them is because she wants to destroy their lives and make every day a living hell. She essentially wants to continue to use her position to take the bullying to the next level.

Partly she wants to destroy people who she views as enemies because:

A) These people are threatening her royal status as a duchess.

B) Narcissists are incredibly vindictive. Meghan wants to make them public examples to warn anyone else who dares speak up about her alleged bullying or revealing to the public what a fraud she is.

C) But as you alluded to in your comment, going scorched earth is also a form of a warning or even a threat by Meghan to Harry.

To maintain her position in life, Meghan must continue to manipulate and control Harry, who is the main source of her narcissistic fuel and the status, wealth, fame, and power she has accumulated through him.

Meghan is essentially keeping Harry like a caged bird trapped in his own marriage, which is rather rich in that Harry unwittingly revealed how clueless and lacking in self-awareness he is by labeling Charles and William as being “trapped” in last Sunday’s Oprah interview.

If Harry wants to see a man who is truly a trapped prisoner, he only needs to find the mirror in one of the dozen or so bathrooms at Mudslide Mansion.
Today's Mail on Sunday - Part 1
Axe the Monarchy? Yes, if you want us to be like North Korea... or the USA
By PETER HITCHENS FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 22:02, 13 March 2021 | UPDATED: 00:10, 14 March 2021


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We’ll be sorry when the Monarchy is gone, which it will pretty soon be if we all go on behaving like this. If you want a Monarchy, you need grown-ups, not just to sit on the throne, but to support it.

Sentimental slop won’t keep it going, and nor will cheap temporary popularity or glamour. It doesn’t matter to me if the King or Queen are ugly or unfashionable.
Personally, I have no wish to know my sovereign’s private thoughts or tastes. What would save it would be the realisation that what will come after it will be worse.

We’ll be sorry when the Monarchy is gone, which it will pretty soon be if we all go on behaving like this.

For the republicans are waiting, filled with glee and hunger, for that moment. They know that the present Queen is beyond their reach. They cannot pull her down and they will not try.
But afterwards they will do all they can to destroy the Crown.
More than three centuries ago, this nation had an amazing stroke of luck. It invented constitutional monarchy.

Based on that marvellous and forgotten charter of liberty, the 1689 Bill of Rights, we created a new type of state that was the wonder and envy of Europe.
We had a monarch who was the object of loyalty and pride, but who could not be an autocrat because the law and Parliament together prevented it. The Glorious Revolution of 1688 had sent our last despot, James II, scurrying off to France.

But what nobody then realised was the other side of the bargain. Politicians, who grew in power as the King grew weaker, were also limited. They could not install themselves in grand robes or glittering uniforms, or be inaugurated amid military parades and the roar of artillery salutes.

They could not review or directly command the troops. They did not have the power of pardon.

Nobody was required to be loyal to them personally. In fact, civil servants, police and the military, who serve the law and the Crown rather than the government of the day, were actually required to refuse an unlawful order from them. All the glorious, shiny baubles of state were reserved to a powerless King or Queen.
MOS Part 2

More than three centuries ago, this nation had an amazing stroke of luck. It invented constitutional monarchy. Based on that marvellous and forgotten charter of liberty, the 1689 Bill of Rights, we created a new type of state that was the wonder and envy of Europe
Well, not quite powerless. Like the King on the chessboard, a Monarch has one great negative power. Nobody else can occupy his space. It was quite plain during the Blair government, stuffed with undercover republicans who claimed to be ‘the political arm of the British people as a whole’, that Blair himself would have liked to muscle in on the glamour of Monarchy.

What on earth was he doing, reading the lesson at Princess Diana’s funeral? What was the point of his drivel about ‘the People’s Princess’? Why did he pose so often with soldiers? Why was he given standing ovations lasting minutes for his ghastly, saccharine speeches? Guess.

Some Tory premiers have not been immune to this either. It is a disease of all politicians.
To me, the single most striking thing about the Meghan Markle opera last week was when the White House press spokeswoman intervened in it, saying: ‘For anyone to come forward and speak about their own struggles with mental health and tell their own personal story, that takes courage and that’s certainly something the President believes.’

Well now, look, let’s not be unkind here, but President Biden has had his own problems with one of his sons. I don’t recall Buckingham Palace issuing any kind of statement about that, and quite right too. It wouldn’t be grown-up to do so.

But one of the things that is wrong with the US is that it has an overmighty President, who has to buy and keep his office by making promises to billionaire donors and pandering to fashions in thought and opinion.

He mixes power and grandeur, and he demands a respect we aren’t required to give our premiers.

During the mad Iraq war, criticism of President George W. Bush was less savage in the USA than criticism of the Blair creature here. This is because the President is the commander in chief, head of state, the personal figurehead of the nation.

To me, the single most striking thing about the Meghan Markle opera last week was when the White House press spokeswoman (above) intervened in it, saying: ‘For anyone to come forward and speak about their own struggles with mental health and tell their own personal story, that takes courage and that’s certainly something the President believes'

Those who now moan about the rather small cost of our Monarchy never seem to notice the vast price of Air Force One, the ludicrous presidential jet – a planned replacement is expected to cost more than £2.5 billion.

Is the tacky celebrity culture in the USA, even worse and more idiotic than ours, perhaps something to do with the absence of the sobriety and restraint which Monarchy provides?

Canada’s very different society seems to suggest that the two are connected. We may complain about some members of the Royal Family, but do they even begin to compare with shameful, embarrassing figures such as Richard Nixon or Bill Clinton who – remember – actually possessed solid and enormous political power? And let us not even start on the French presidency.

In general, if republics are so good, why are so many of them, from North Korea and China to Apartheid South Africa (whose racialist rulers could not wait to kick out the Queen in a whites-only referendum in 1960) dismal places of tyranny and torture? Why are most of the longest-surviving free nations in the world constitutional monarchies?

It is so much easier to join in the teenage yelling about our Monarchy’s alleged privileges and luxuries, about its supposed snobbery and bigotry, and its stuffiness and slowness to adapt to the times, than it is to say, as I do, that we should learn to respect and hang on to our good fortune.

Why spit on your luck?
@Flore said…
Hiring a third party to investigate is a smart move. Now let’s hope an “intern leaks the results” to the mean U.K. tabloids!
Elsbeth1847 said…
WBBM -

"Headline :
`Prince Charles' reputation has taken a major hit, but refusing to take Harry's calls is far from the future king's first mistake'

It's a good way to avoid having one's words twisted!
Put it in writing!"


This guy (PC) did tell his son to put his plan for leaving in writing. Had JH done so, many problems would have been obvious, pointed out and suggested JHAMS go back to the drawing board to try again. Much of this could have been avoided.

But for those who think that if you believe enough in your vision, power through all objections from lesser folk who don't understand what a marvelous idea you have, that the problems will just line up into place and all those pesky details will work themselves out without so much as glance other than to see that they did.

Hmm. Not unlike the rom coms put out in Hollywood where there is a happy ending of bringing two people together after they are forced to realize they should be together after all and that the sparks are good sparks and not warnings of they need to stay broken up.
Still trying to do her Royalling here?

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a35820915/meghan-markle-letter-to-uk-students-iwd-2021/#:~:text=Meghan%20Markle%20Penned%20a%20Touching,student

It's in all the other usual suspects as well. Also wrote an `inspirational message' to somebody or other re Women's Day.

My headline would be "Unemployed Housewife Continues To Ape Queen".
@Elsbeth1847 mentioned `sparks'.

A very good point. Fiction has a lot to answer for.
We believe that Meghan wants to be Queen - whether that is as consort to Harry or in her own right is unknown.

After all, Harry showed us, in an Afghanistan interview that he didn't like England. i reckon that rules him out as king.

I can't find the clip right now - he was sitting on almost bare ground ground with a few bits of scrubby vegetation. Shall keep looking for it.

The Sun has just announced he'll be here for the unveiling in July.
Got it!

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1404578/Prince-Harry-exit-Meghan-Markle-dislike-England-Loose-Women-ITV-video

The prog. is very recent - the critical video, when he was in Afghanistan, is shown again.
@Flore said…
CANDACE OWENS: Unlike so many of my fellow Americans, I don't buy Meghan Markle's 'truths' about racist Britain
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9359399/CANDACE-OWENS-dont-buy-Meghan-Markles-truths-racist-Britain.html

Once again, Owens hit the nail on the head.
499lake said…
Has there been independent verification or reports of Harry’s mental health problems? Or has his mental problems been self reporting or observations by experts without first hand experience with his behavior.
I raise this question because mental health is a too-close-to-home problem that people just accept self-reporting as facts. While a good many of us would not believe what MM says about her mental health, but are less skeptical of Harry’s reports
given his background and former persona created by ELF?
While MM is blamed Harry’s problems, I believe she gave him a platform for being his actual bratty self. I thought the open air bus tour demonstrated a lack of connectedness with the host on the bus and a lack of empathy during the training circuit.
Any examples with hard evidence about his mental health problems?
Thank you for your many insights since the OW interview..
SirStinxAlot said…
The monarchy will be fine, don't worry about them. Hiring an independent lawfirm to investigate discreetly is the right thing to do. Meghan is just showing everyone that she really is a bully. If they were already "fired", they don't need to be involved. If the palace just states later on "we have considered recommendations from the lawfirm based on the results of the investigational are implementing new policies based on those results" that would be enough. Giving details or leaking to the press really does make it look like a smear campaign. Leaking information only gives Meghan and Harry attention and feel for the future. If Meghan is dumb enough to do more interviews it shows her as the bully. Americans really aren't that dumb, we can see through Meghans lies. The media just needed something to gossip about to keep division and hate alive here. The more Meghan and Harry talk the worse they look to everyone. Remember Dr. Phils "meet me outside, how bou dat girl", this to shall pass.

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