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Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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Did you see GAYLE repeating the ‘we have emails and texts’ threats? Emails and texts of racism? Yeah, right. Meghan being told, ‘No.’ more than likely.
If they were communicating by text and email so much why did Meghan send ‘letters’ on behalf of Harry begging for his security?
I hope ANL brings this up on appeal.
BREAKING NEWS: Transcript of Queen’s phone call to Harry has just been released!
Q: Harry, dear, it’s Granny. Let me begin by saying that you, Meghan, and Archie are...well...ah...family members.
H: Yeah! I mean, that’s what I’ve been saying, right? We’re family, right?
Q: Indeed. (sigh)
H: Meghan has educated me on all that! It’s like... I get it now! I’m family, right? Your grandson! For real!
Q: Yes, well... Please understand that I wish to know all your concerns, dear, and nothing you say will change anything. You can tell me anything at all. Don’t hold back! One’s will has just been revised, and nothing - let me repeat - nothing you and Meghan say or do will change my will. Ahem. Or feelings. Or will.
H: Cool, coool. That’s great because...the media...press, ya know? Privacy, right? Our privacy that is, not yours. Meghan was very clear about that.
Q: Not to worry, my dear. I won’t mention your names at all. Certainly not in one’s will.
@Jenn
Your avatars are great- but this one is the best ever! Don't think you can top it.
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I thought maybe it was time for something handsome!
If I find out he's been bowing to the queen of evil I will just cancel him with a giant red X.🤣
Harry must realize Meghan’s penchant for spending. He was happy when his dad was funding her excessive billionaire wardrobe, their elaborate security, and free housing with all expenses paid by the Duchy land. He’s probably sat for a minute and calculated Diana’s trust fund and Meghan’s costs per year and instead of telling his wife that ‘whatever she wants she won’t get anymore’, decided to internally implode based on the vows he said to her ‘I will give you everything’ which I’m sure she brings up on every possible occasion.
Harry would have had a family office investing his money and making a fee off that. They would have pushed back HARD when he wanted to dig into the principle. That is pretty sacrilege in the finance world and much more so in the aristocratic world. They have it ingrained in them to not touch the principle. It’s normally done in emergencies, not in lifestyle changes where one wants to spend MORE than they should be.
Again, instead of having an adult conversation with his wife about their future and retirement and their children’s inheritance and legacy he was left blaming dad who wasn’t meant to be giving him as much in the first place anyway.
All my husband has been saying recently when I bring these two up is ‘when is the guy going to grow up?’
No worries, I enjoy learning new things and take them or leave them. It is good to know, regardless. :)
JennS’ avatars make my week
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and does this one make you weak.....at the knees?🤣
I can't stand Gayle and Oprah right now.
Maybe THEY were MM's backers!!!
Did you see how Orca showed edited headlines on the show - out of context to try to push the tabloid racist media?
Maybe the texts/emails are them asking for help for the tabloid problem and the depression.
I've assisted in putting together documentation for a couple of lawsuits and a paper trail is what you need to establish numerous points like having asked for something and not getting it.
But I would imagine the RF has good documentation as well.
Another thing that's bothering me is the total silence now on the bullying claims. Oprah never said anything about it and the UK press hasn't picked it back up. Are they afraid to?
I can't believe that more people watching that show did not see too mentally unstable people. I don't mean depressed - I mean unstable as in deranged / psychotic.
The RF should go scorched earth with a psychiatric approach as well as a legal one for defamation/harassment/bullying by orca and her cronies.
He can't be that DUMB! He was deliberately misleading to make his family look as if they put him and his plastic child in danger.
That's funny!
Granny should cut them out pronto!
And it's making me wonder why the Harkles weren't more worried about genuinely getting cut out of any inheritance.
Although Harry didn't send as many direct volleys as his grandmother, he did however complain about her not meeting with him.
And he drove a wrecking ball through her entire world! Complaining about the firm, the family is just the same as complaining about her.
A very illuminating personal anecdote of Orcah Whingetome from a British artist she commissioned portrait work from in the Oughts. He obtained the proper visa and moved to Manhattan to begin the preliminary work on the sketches. I am not sure what property he is referring to But I assume the Montecito house Which he said contained seven outbuildings like pods with their own tennis court and swimming pool each as satellites from the main house. So I imagine it’s in one of these many mansions where the Harkles are currently ensconced. It does beg the question why, with her own version of the Sandringham Estate in Santa Barbara County, that Oprah would’ve had to call in a favor from Rob Lowe and use his house for this interview. At any rate, Oprah wanted an artistic rendering of this massive compound, A project that was going to require several months. She called the artist on his birthday, and wished him a happy birthday and then said, quote I’m putting in a rose garden—Can you wait a year?” This was not an actual query but rather an announcement that the project was off. The artist was then stranded in New York with no income and no legal standing too generate paying work outside of the parameters of his visa. Orca was going to sponsor him, until Suddenly she wasn’t. He gets this news on his birthday and having already completed a preliminary study of the property in miniature which had taken extensive time. The gentleman now knows that in his opinion O hates men And had no intention of letting him actually complete the work. He says she delights in causing chaos in other peoples lives and exudes a dark energy.
As someone who admired Oprah at the start of her career in the mid-80s when her Chicago-based TV show was just getting off the ground, and she was an Academy award nominee for her first ever movie role—This was my college era and I sometimes caught her show—I did not see the O then That we see today. She has to be a more skillful narcissist than Meg Because if a person is capable of convincingly faking authenticity, I thought that Oprah did in the early years. A whole nation of women took her into their hearts for her honesty about her weight struggles and her troubled upbringing. She was not the mega billionaire she is today. Somewhere along the line I grew disenchanted with Oprah, and more than that—Distrustful. I can trace the time that I began to be disgusted by her aura of omnipotent self satisfied Diety To the year 2000 and launch of her eponymous magazine. It became extremely evident that Oprah was all about creating a cult of personality around herself, and the promotion of luxury goods. Her initial audience of devoted fans what comprised largely of middle class and struggling women who were at home during the day caring for children or elderly relatives. Women who identified with the struggles of her guests and O’s own personal story. Women who absolutely could not afford face creams made of crushed pearls or $250 cashmere lounging pajamas. Oprah’s favorite things are way out of the budget of her target audience. She bought her own personal version of black Vogue
And put herself on every single cover every month. This was the time I really begin to distrust Oprah and now it’s safe to say I did test her.
Will have to resubmit link...Waited too long.
If i'm correct, gee, i wonder where Megs got the idea to cook roast chicken for Harry?
She couldn't have been stalking H online to find out every bit about him could she? Didn't she say she knew zero about the RF?
She is such a faker. A liar. I want the media from all over the world to just keep exposing her lies.
Maybe it was her growing wealth that changed her.
I wonder if she always hated white folks even in the early days of her show or if that came later too.
https://pagesix.com/2021/03/11/black-choir-at-harry-and-meghans-wedding-says-prince-charles-invited-them/
Members of The Kingdom’s Choir — who performed at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s wedding — are speaking up in defense of Prince Charles as the royal family faces allegations of racism stemming from the Sussexes’ Sunday night pow-wow with Oprah Winfrey.
Ms. Karen Gibson, founder and conductor of The Kingdom’s Choir, told TMZ Thursday that it was Prince Charles who invited the African-American group to bless the congregation during Harry and Meg’s nuptials, an invitation she believed to be sincere. She also claims Charles has gone “out of his way” to congratulate them on their success since the event.
Harry soliciting voice work for Markle
It seems someone is trying to make this clip disappear
Thanks for the Spectator takedown of the Harkles and The Oprah. Brilliant!
I'm not a fan of Pierce Morgan at all, but I feel bad for him. Whatever happened to voicing your own opinion and freedom of speech? How come it's okay for Alex Beresford, who is a person of color to argue and disagree with Pierce, but when Pierce questions and disagrees with Meghan's narrative, he is branded a racist?
Also, is it now not allowed within family circles to wonder what your unborn baby will look like? Will he get his dad's blond hair or his mom's hazel eyes? The context and intention of the question has to be taken into consideration.
The woke topics is shutting down critical thinking and freedom of speech. The facts and evidence doesn't matter now. Open-mindedness is not important anymore. Open mindedness and respecting difference in opinion is not accepted anymore. Please don't get me wrong. I've had to silently battle with depression going to therapy without the knowledge of my family. I've had to battle with prejudice myself because of DNA. Any form of bias like racism and issues about mental health are important matters that needs to be addressed. But certainly asking questions especially when armed with facts and evidence shouldn't be wrong.
Maybe Meghan was embarrassed by the choir, so this is payback?
Here he looks like a Mr. Potato Head version of himself.
'Perhaps they can finally set the record straight about me': Meghan Markle's biographer Omid Scobie quotes email he claims she sent to Kensington Palace over flower girl row with Kate - so who showed him the message?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9350097/Meghan-Markles-close-friend-Janina-Gavankar-attacks-Queens-statement-Oprah-interview.html
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1369790254480121862
Short clip - funny version of the interview🤣
Why should I or anyone automatically believe them to be true?
I once received an email which supposedly was sent by me (my real email address) to me (the same email address) to sell me some product (drugs or porn).
Another email I received from my email service provider informed me that I needed to log in with the thoughtfully provided link and pay my bill or they were going to cut me off. I looked at the header and realized that although the body of the note, with logo, was my provider but the from was actually AOL (a different provider).
So the talking heads can talk on and on about this is proof but unless they directly get it from the provider, full headers and so on - why believe?
https://nypost.com/2021/03/11/harry-and-meghan-reportedly-hire-film-exec-to-lead-production-company/
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Just what we feared - the word is Hollywood may be interested in MM after all but following the press generated from the interview, the interest will lie in the royal family drama. I hope they don't settle into making a living maligning the RF.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9350097/Meghan-Markles-close-friend-Janina-Gavankar-attacks-Queens-statement-Oprah-interview.html
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Perhaps Scobie can set the record straight as well? He said on FF that no crying incident happened over the bridesmaid dresses. Now Markle is saying Kate made her cry. So was there really someone who cried over bridesmaid dresses?
Meghan was always going to hire people to take on the productions. That’s her entire roll. She gets money and redistributes it and tries her best to exploit others. If the others have sense they will make the most out of the deals, but everyone should be surprised how many desperate people are out there. She’s also copying Trevor/ no original thoughts.
Ben Browning used to live in Toronto, and I have a partial hit on him being a member of the SoHo House. I'll update when I can solidly confirm.
short bio:
https://news.yahoo.com/toronto-filmnation-beefs-ben-browning-140013793.
Just looking at him, I think he's a member of the Soho House. He looks like the type.
https://torontolife.com/city/soho-house-toronto/
Black choir at Harry and Meghan’s wedding defend Prince Charles amid racism allegations
This should go viral!
We have proof! We have proof! Proof of what?? Megalo sending an email DEMANDING something is NO proof! This public shameless blackmail is just sickening. She is obsessed with Kate. Quite frankly, it’s frightening.
I think it's like this - apart from the Queen, I can safely say that all members of the RF, bar the Monarch, are subject to the Law; there have been fines for speeding for instance.
Parliament put Charles I on trial for `waging war on the People'(or wtte) which resulted in this execution in January 1649. Whether the trial was lawful is still contentious - the then Parliament asserted that it was, the Royalists saw it differently
So:
using a surrogate for a royal baby who is in the line of succession and hiding that fact from the public (further angle to question on whether the baby is royal DNA or not)
Prima facie case of interfering with the Succession?
- the shady financial dealings with the foundations/charities and how money donated was used
Fraud/theft of some form
- the vicious bullying of staff and people encountered on tours / workplace harassment
Physical abuse may attract assault charges, verbal could be slander (spoken) or libel (`literary' ie written) if done in public.
- merching of clothing while on royal family duty
Unheard of, so probably no specific law against it. May be likened to any one using their employment for personal enrichment beyond their pay - in the ordinary way of things, that could be a breach of contract, punishable by dismissal.
- the taking of public funds for public duty on items meant to be used for many years all while planning to leave the firm (clothing/Frogmore reno)
Yes - obtaining benefit under false pretences -if the intention can be proved.
lying about numerous issues, pulling scams while a member of the firm
Not sure about this - would be case for dismissal in ordinary employ.
lying during lawsuit
In Court, yes. It's perjury.
using PR to abuse family members
Yes - if you do yourself or it can be proved that a PR firm was acting on your instructions. (`Judge Rinder' has to dismiss cases against dodgy contractors for example if the wronged customer posts something on the Internet asserting that they have done something criminal. If you it, you can be sued for libel.)
sending false information to the media via PR
Yes - if you do yourself or it can be proved that a PR firm was acting on your instructions.
the current defamation inflicted upon the royal family and the UK on the world stage / stirring up unwarranted vicious attacks against the family.
I would think that could be construed as hate speech - the Law's very hot on that.
I'm not legally qualified and would add that English law is often not what one thinks it is - or what it should be! Please correct if I have anything wrong!
a) I believe surrogacy, as well adoption and IVG, belong to the medical file of a person and is normally protected by medical secrecy. The only ones with legitimacy to reveal it / talk about it are the parents or, best, the child when adult. The Queen can very well explain that this is the reason why the surrogacy was not a matter to float on the public sphere. She would once more gain a point in dignity and respect. About the parading of pillows? Well, she admits it's "unusual" but the Palace did not want to upset Megs knowing she was suicidal (Megs gave them the argument). On the "out of the body" and the succesion order to the throne? Well, Archie was not given any title, was he? (Megs again gave the argument), and with the streamlining of the royal family his titles may soon disappear, so Archie's place in the order of succesion is not presently an issue.
b) Megs goes public with the surrogacy and, obviously, blames the Royal Family for obliging her to keep it a secret. She is once more the victim of the Palace and bla, bla, bla, bla. She could, on the contrary, admit surrogacy and help the so many couples that have difficulties in conceiving, but this would require empathy, solidarity and other virtues she seems to be short of.
Instead I expect many of those emails and texts (probably sent at 5 am), were demands to dispute press stories, DM comments, and perhaps even unflattering photos M didn't like. The Kate crying story of course, stories about M's spending in lots of situations including Frogmore, their private jet use, Thomas Markle and the rest of the clan, staff leaving, and so on. In fact, I seem to remember claims that the early am emails often pertained to M's thoughts about how to present "her image." I now think that was code for "how to dispute the true stories that are out there." And if so, I'm sure the answer was always along the lines of "that would not be helpful to the institution." And those "no" answers are now implied to be no answers to requests for mental health help. (And in M's twisted mind, they probably partly were.)
It does give me a tiny bit of pleasure to think about Justice Warby hearing about the hoopla. He may have drunk so much Kool-Aid he's not affected. But with Omid's tweet that M was waiting for the court case to end so she could do the O interview, I hope he feels just a little bit foolish. I also hope he's heard all the claims that plenty of emails and texts do still exist from 2019.
They don't stop and ask for copper bottomed evidence.
They just parrot `No smoke without fire' - Without asking where's the fire? Who started it?
The present situation is so unjust - people believe the lying narcissist and it's sickening.
In the light of recent rebranding, I think we should call him Mrs Potato Head
What was she on?
I never imagined before now that I would be a Stan of the often insufferable Mr. Morgan, but we have a mutual enemy in common and as they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Piers walking off his own show mid-broadcast after refusing to genuflect before Meghan’s version of truth is the kind of huge FU gesture we pleas only wish we could get away with to our bosses. Piers didn’t really need the job to feed his family, which keeps the ordinary folk from such an extravagant separation from employment. Rachel will be eyeballing Piers’ fortune next, so I wish him good luck with the inevitable litigation coming his way after his dramatic catharsis.
A timeline of a friendship gone very bad
https://apple.news/AkNTC3gRvT3enXwfNqzl59w
Even though I support Morgan’s stand for freedom of speech, I still wonder why his crusade against this gritting hyperbolic asserter got so personal. Piers was very pro-Meg until he started acting like a jilted lover when she stopped answering his tweets after meeting Harry. Up til then, they had exchanged messages about Suits and met once for drinks when she came to London for Wimbledon. Piers’ Level of grievance over being dropped as a tweet buddy and not getting a personal invitation to the wedding seems out of proportion. Is he pissed To be thought so much less than Oprah Who got a front row seat to the wedding after also having met in person only once once? I feel like there has to be another layer to their acquaintance which is not being put in the public domain. Piers seems obsessed with His narrative that he enjoyed a close friendship with Markle before being heartlessly ghosted after she met Harry. Having someone you barely know stop returning your tweets hardly rises to the betrayal experienced by Family members and ex-husbands And childhood friends who Rachel dumped on her relentless climb. Piers was a tweet buddy for less than two years and ended contact after meeting Harry. It would Have been more useful to retain Piers in her corner, But it’s not unusual for a woman to distance herself from former social friends who are men when she meets a guy she wants to get serious about. So why exactly is Piers Still so butt hurt all these years later? Why couldn’t he let this go? He comes across as obsessed with Megan on a level that goes beyond taking professional umbrage at her behavior. His emotions are as high as if he had been in love with her. Anybody else get this vibe?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9352971/JAN-MOIR-promise-column-Meghan-Harry-free-zone-recollections-vary.html
As our dear Voltaire famously said “I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
I don’t care much for Pierce Morgan but as you said we share a common enemy and his freedom of speech is under attack. Like many others, the woke Twitter mob is barking nonsense disregarding fundamental history lessons regarding our basic freedoms. Cancel culture is a very dangerous concept. Silencing their opponents is how autocratic regimes rule. Pierce has every right to express an opinion. He is not insulting nor can his speech be considered hateful even by legal standards. But Megalo is so insecure that she cannot stand ANY form, shape or color (pun unintended) of criticism. He seems to be very irritated by her behavior. Aren’t we all? I think she used to flirt with him leading him on and trying to use him to get some visibility in the British media. She used him - shocker I know - and his ego has been bruised. He knows how vile she is.
Megyn Kelly: Fox News would not cancel Piers Morgan over Meghan Markle comments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-9cmw3KI8M
Piers has been proven right as we see. Sharon Osbourne has come out in his defense, which surprises me a bit since I would have expected her to join in with the Meg sugar squad. The article I posted above references some of Piers’ Early glowing testimony about Meg In his Daily Mail column. In a piece after the drinks meet with Meg, he rhapsodized about her Hollywood glamour, smarts and general awesomeness and urged Harry to put a ring on it fast. He congratulated The couple on their engagement, But added the peevish aside that Meg owed him an invitation to the wedding After taking a powder and cutting off communication. As one of the top tabloid figures in the United Kingdom, with the profile in America to going to his stint as a judge on America’s Got Talent, Piers is no babe in the woods. He must have a social media relationship with dozens of celebrities, Including other Hollywood starlets. A relationship conducted wholly on Twitter isn’t a friendship; it’s professional networking. Piers had to have seen that he was a useful person for a minor American actress looking to break into the British scene to cultivate. But On his side, what was in it for him? Why this level of interest in a obscure cable actress from America? According to this article at any rate, he was the one that initiated contact, identifying himself as a Suits fan. Piers is intelligent and certainly had megs number long before I many of his fellow media cohort did—Why would a man of discriminating intellect think Suits was a great show? Meg is a terrible actress, and even people who support her must see that. She is the Florence Foster Jenkins of the acting world, without the sincerity. At the time this social media acquaintance was struck, In 2015, Piers held all the cards as a powerful media personality on two continents, and Meg was a nobody two bit hustler from Toronto. Look what’s happened in 5 years—she’s a global celebrity who’s smeared him for challenging her lies and made him a pariah. If he hadn’t quit on the spot, he would’ve been fired. Still plenty of time for her to sue him for defamation. His network ITV works with Some mental health charities, and they could sue him also for breach of contract and for damaging their brand. The temporary high he got from Giving his TV bosses the metaphorical finger may be short-lived.
Piers has not always been nice in his pursuit of scoops and has made plenty of enemies. I agree with him about Megan but if he had been more moderate in his comments toward her these last couple of years, he might have been able to express his doubts about Meg’s version of her truth on air Without torching his career. He’s certainly paying now for being one of her leading critics.
Pierce has been very vocal about Megalo and she knows he knows. She was sloppy messing with someone like him. She ghosted him. She wants him silenced because - unlike many of his colleagues- he actually has exchanged messages with her and met her. Also, he is not afraid expressing concern and criticism because Megalo is mixed race. The press has been very carefully tiptoeing around her. Still, she played the R card. However, she knew the Rcard won’t be sufficient so she played the suicide one as well. This is how she got to complain about Pierce to ITV. I am a POC who was suicidal i.e. untouchable in today’s world🙄
Harry and Meghan’s net favourability ratings have fallen to their lowest ever levels following the Oprah interview
Prince Harry: -3 (15 point drop)
Meghan: -27 (13 point drop)
(Changes from 2nd Mar)
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/12/public-opinion-harry-and-meghan-falls-new-low-afte?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=royal_family_favourability
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9351973/Single-mother-23-says-gay-couples-surrogate-gave-life-new-meaning.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9354633/Woman-told-die-pregnant-mother-friend-acted-surrogate.html
Re the bump clutching
Oprah: There were stories where Kate was being praised for holding her baby bump.
Meghan: Oh, gosh, have I done it since we’ve been sitting down?
Oprah: Yes, you’ve been doing it the whole time.
Meghan: Probably. OK.
Oprah: Kate was praised for cradling her baby bump, and the headline about you doing the same thing said, ‘Meghan can’t keep hands off her baby bump for pride or vanity’.
Meghan: What does it have to do with pride or vanity?
Not only was it so contrived and rehearsed but they had to drag Catherine into it. Frankly, I don’t recall Catherine clutching her bumps so obsessively when she was pregnant.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9354687/Piers-Morgan-slams-bullies-chat-Talk-shaming-Sharon-Osbourne.html
"Not only was it so contrived and rehearsed but they had to drag Catherine into it. Frankly, I don’t recall Catherine clutching her bumps so obsessively when she was pregnant."
You don't recall Kate doing it because she didn't do it. I think, courtesy of M's sugars, we've probably recently seen every picture there is of Kate touching her bump. With 3 pregnancies, there was maybe a total of 15-20 shots of Kate bump-touching and I don't believe any were of the double-clutch, hand-above, hand-below variety M perfected at the British Fashion Awards. With Meg, I doubt there were 15-20 shots where she wasn't bump clutching during her first pregnancy (or thrusting her coat back on each side in preparation for bump clutching.)
one any of those theat MM shows to O or gayle will be have been ‘screened’ to only show MM and maybe JH in a good light. she wont be sharing any that reflect poorly on her.
and she’s probably stuck for a bit and can’t have them printed or shown nationally, because anyone writing to her would violate their copyright and expection of privacy.
He may have gotten the tip from a real estate agent or broker.
Enty never did do a reveal.
The people who post on the site of course guessed MM.
Some speculated that she was buying the house for Doria with funds she was trying to hide from her merching deals.
Others speculated that she was planning a divorce and seeking to return to the US.
Nobody raised the possibility of Harry accompanying her.
If Enty finally does a reveal now, this could be the smoking gun that she was planning this two years ago.
Why did the BRF allow a complete stranger to step onto the world stage and represent them at all?
Does this not look like a giant error in judgement? Should they be condemned for it? Should there have been rules in place?
above someone mentioned CBS shouldn’t be allowed to air those blatantly false statements in that interview again. and I have to disagree because it is an ‘opinion’ piece by the Dumbartons, their ‘opinion’ or to use Oprah’s overused phrase “ their truth”, or the HArridans overused phrase “their authentic selves” ugh. i hate that.
But, CBS is airing this as true statements and they are obviously false. So CBS prior to the interview and also below the interview, should run a disclaimer similar to an infomercial discalimer. and they should run that statement across the bottom of the screen during the entir interview.
CBS is negelnt if they don’t do that or at least acknowledge “alleged” or “ Falsely claims (as used with the prior president) prior to such Dumbarton statements.
"I haven't read FF or the Lacey book or other Megs book, do any of the books mention Megs being depressed, feeling suicidal and needing help? ( I know she may not have vocalised it, but someone may have picked up on it). I know she was frustrated and fed up at not getting her voice heard and getting her side of the story out but there is a big jump from being fed up and frustrated to feeling suicidal. Is there any mention of this in any of the books."
We need to rethink FF or at the very least it's intent because it's now being debunked by it's author.
Every interview that Omid has given since the big Oprah interview contradicts what he wrote in FF which he swore was the truth, M admitted to a court providing information AND the Palace staff were outed in court for fact checking it.
Somewhere in the court case Omid admitted that DM articles were the source of his book and he copied sections from them. Amazing that DM hasn't turned around to sue him for copyright.
M at first told the court FF was a made up fanfiction that had used alot of creative licence.
Then she admitted she contributed to it and her staff fact checked it.
Now we have Omid telling the world that according to personal emails he has seen, Kate made M cry and yet in FF he states categorically that Kate was in tears over something that happened at the fitting and it involved Charlotte. He doesn't mention Meghan crying at all.
Going by how obsessively M is trying to correct this particular story, do we really think that she would have stayed silent when it happened? Do we really think she would not have included it in her court case where she included the avocado story and the copper bath story?!
Also, Meghan has stated she doesn’t care what people say about her that it comes with the gig and is not her focus. I need to find this interview because it actually contradicts what she just claimed. At the time she said it, I thought it was pretty psychopathic to not feel anything like she claimed. I’ll go digging because this point is actually quite interesting.
"Harry and Meghan reportedly hire film exec to lead production company
https://nypost.com/2021/03/11/harry-and-meghan-reportedly-hire-film-exec-to-lead-production-company/
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Just what we feared - the word is Hollywood may be interested in MM after all but following the press generated from the interview, the interest will lie in the royal family drama. I hope they don't settle into making a living maligning the RF."
Hollywood is only as interested as their Netflix deal pans out.
Let's not forget that Hollywood is a business and if you have a distribution deal as they do with Netflix, they'll attract people wanting to get that distribution money off them.
If the deal proves successful such that Netflix actually takes their content then they will be successful in so far as people wanting to work with them.
If Netflix cancels the deal, they are back to square one.
I think she’s playing the clickbait game. Look at how Twitter ran with her one-liner whine fest.
Their obsession with the flower girl incident is creepy and weird. One day, things went wrong both sides were displeased the week of a WEDDING. Doesn’t everyone go through that?
Why are they so obsessed with it?
@Acquitaine I think at this point, Rache is attempting to re-write history. I wonder why she thinks she can get away with it?
Well, they ARE completely cancelling/erasing history here.
Well, that stupid Catherine had the advantage again in that she didn't have to worry about her bump falling down to her knees or popping out of the dress entirely. So unfair!
Justice Warby ruled Meghan had a reasonable expectation that the contents of the letter she wrote to her father, she knew would infuriate him, would remain private. Now private emails of hers have been released. Does it mean correspondence can only be released if it favours her?
@snarkyerthabest,
Their obsession with the flower girl incident is creepy and weird. One day, things went wrong both sides were displeased the week of a WEDDING. Doesn’t everyone go through that?
Why are they so obsessed with it?
I don't know what good that they think this will do for them. Personally, I would be ecstatic to read that Catherine snatched a switch off a tree and chased Meghan around the castle switching at her bottom while calling her a skanky b*tch for making her baby cry.
Not only would I applaud, I'd order it so that I could replay it whenever I was feeling down.
...I'm patiently waiting for Judge Warby's reaction!
Robert Jobson
@theroyaleditor 2m
You’ll be waiting a long time.
the receipts of what? my understanding is, there is very little that Harridans mentioned that would have a receipt.
receipt for house/ car rental payments? or security payments made by JH? JH may have paid the bills with the $ PC gave them at the begginning of the year. ( which will need to be declared on their taxes as a gift correct?)
“Now we have Omid telling the world that according to personal emails he has seen, Kate made M cry and yet in FF he states categorically that Kate was in tears over something that happened at the fitting and it involved Charlotte. He doesn't mention Meghan crying at all.”
Thanks for confirming this point.
Was Megalo withholding some information to offer Oprah a scoop? Or is it another inflammatory lie aimed at Kate? Why didn’t one her minions out this information to People magazine?
I believe the press: Bridezilla made Catherine cry. Bridezilla must have then turned on the waterworks: see how mean and uptight she is😭
The next day, Catherine, a true lady, went to apologize carrying flowers. Megalo, miss bad manners, slammed the door in her face and threw away the flowers.
Of course, “her truth” is different!
Lets see if Megs tries to bring a lawsuit against him or charges at OfCom. I doubt she will succeed but she will rally loads of the woke + her sugars against him in an attempt to make him semi-unemployable. Meaning the top tier of UK media will not hire him. Only secondary. Woke means you get your twitter mobs to get people fired and ruin their reputations
An American law school professor was fired very quickly the other day. She made an innocuous comment about her black students in a private Zoom conversation with another Law prof. Then the twitter mobs (black in the case) descended on her and the dean of Georgetown Law School.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgetown-law-professor-fired-over-remarks-about-black-students-that-a-dean-called-abhorrent-and-reprehensible/
As for Netflix. This guy doesnt have that impressive of a resume and was on Survivor (kicked off early I must say) Already has an ego there. He prob thought what the heck, Oprah is involved and there is a lot of publicity here so why not. Give it three months, he will quit too.
I am still curious what will happen at the end of the month. The reports from last year was it was a year (to find work or whatever) and March 31 was the end of the review. Seems like all the decisions were already made but some have been leaked out. Saw a piece where someone posted a note from Megs - still uses duchess but the stationary was all archewell and not the H&M coronet thing. I could see the queen saying all this stuff was done and becomes effective March 31, so march 31 it will be.
Any news onf Philip - its day 25. N
“ Why did the BRF allow a complete stranger to step onto the world stage and represent them at all?
Does this not look like a giant error in judgement? Should they be condemned for it? Should there have been rules in place?”
Sigh. I think they were stuck between a rock and a hard place. Like any other family would be in this case.
Say no to the man child they’ve been indulging their whole life, and he’ll go crazy (suicidal even) and shout out loud they are racists.
Say yes and allow this z-list hungry hustler with no moral compass to be part of the family and represent them.
They allowed it while hoping for the best. PR wise it was a good move. They suffocated her with their warm welcome and generosity. They provided an excellent team of aides to help her. She bullied her staff to make them quit and never bothered to be part of the family or a team player. This was never what she wanted. She had to delay her plans which frustrated her even more. She spat her venom anyway calling them unsupportive and racists and bit the hands that made her a duchess.
Now they have a huge and permanent problem to deal with. Sad really.
The Behavior Panel: Meghan and Harry Oprah Interview Body Language Analysis
https://youtu.be/AYyEx20DiKU
Dr. Todd Grande: Analysis of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Interview with Oprah
https://youtu.be/Np8oFQ_CJMs
Dr. Todd Grande: Piers Morgan/Meghan Markle Controversy Analysis
https://youtu.be/2yNVF9hpKIQ
@Hikari
The trail of Piers and Meghan is that he was a show fan, followed her and others on Twitter, she immediately saw the follow and messaged him back and kept direct messaging him and so they kept chatting for a year. She would also send him Suits show scripts and tapes before they were taped or aired, for his opinion, which by the way would be a massive contract violation unless she had been told to do so by the show runner for P.R.
When she was coming to London she suggested they meet for drinks, so they did, at his Kensington local, two hours before she hurried off to a dinner with Harry (about which she dropped hints to PM). PM praised her as charming and intelligent and beautiful in his Twitter drops etc, urged Harry to put a ring on it, etc. even though he never heard from her again. So I blame him a bit for this mess too, lol.
My guess is he does stuff like this for future interviews or stories as many entertainment types do, and probably he was flattered by her brand of special attention as people in his work can be, though I have nothing against him. The coin of his business is contacts, all kinds, because you never know who may rise or be connected to someone else down the road. Look at Katie Hind, who was invited for drinks with little known Meg at the same time and finally agreed and was pressed for Brit date introductions, a worthless story at the time but valuable two years later. She was used and ghosted too.
MM probably wanted P.R. for her actress and dating ambitions so pushed PMorgan with flattery, and drinks, until the very minute she realized she could lock down Harry easily, and that PM was married to someone quite attractive, smarter and connected.
Good one! Forgot about calling hapless while crying😂
Say no to the man child they’ve been indulging their whole life, and he’ll go crazy (suicidal even) and shout out loud they are racists.
Say yes and allow this z-list hungry hustler with no moral compass to be part of the family and represent them.
They allowed it while hoping for the best. PR wise it was a good move. They suffocated her with their warm welcome and generosity. They provided an excellent team of aides to help her. She bullied her staff to make them quit and never bothered to be part of the family or a team player. This was never what she wanted. She had to delay her plans which frustrated her even more. She spat her venom anyway calling them unsupportive and racists and bit the hands that made her a duchess.
Now they have a huge and permanent problem to deal with. Sad really.
Yeah, they tried to put whipped cream on top of a sh*t sandwich. Didn't work (shrug). It is clear that she had her own agenda from the beginning.
The royal family surely has some room for optimism considering that the Royal Screwups have decided to live in a geologically *very* active zone. There's always a chance an earthquake will drop a house on the wicked witch and her ginger flying monkey, too.
But they are nice, polite at least, You get angrier!
Finally there is a dress fitting for your fake wedding and you are running out of time, and so you decide to push it and do some screaming and insult a child. Child abuse, but you had to do it! There! You got a reaction and left a new mother in tears. At last you have something in your claws besides the placid calm politeness you cannot emulate or penetrate. You had to attack a little girl and her tired mother, but so what, who cares how they feel, who cares about their mental health — you needed a reaction and you got it!
And you run off with your reaction like Gollum with the ring, to play with and toss and reshape as you like, it is your little weapon of lies. You are rigid with pleasure at having something to twist in the faces and slam doors about too. At last you are at home in your happy valley of ugly interactions, with one small nugget to blast against the soft surface of the woman who stands in your way.
I think it is that simple.
The fascination with urban dictionary is disinformation. I looked up the definition of romper this morning and urban dictionary popped up, so I took and look and apparently anyone wearing a romper (a child’s article of clothing) is up for anal sex.
Why does Meghan want to appear a victim?
However, this theory runs smack into the registration, which apparently is on the up and up and would have involved fraud. It would also mean she was more pregnant when she crouched down and stood up again, which I admit would be hard. I don’t think it would necessarily be impossible because maybe her uterus is tilted back or something like that where it’s just easier for her to do that move. As many noticed, she did it again in the chicken coop.
Also, I still think IF she wore moon bumps, it was to throw everyone off on her dates so no one would figure out when she was due (since they are obsessed with privacy).
The Metro has this headline:
Meghan’s email to Palace about ‘false claims’ of Kate row revealed
Meghan Markle is said to have emailed royal aides asking them to deny she made the Duchess of Cambridge cry at a bridesmaid dress fitting, according to a royal biographer, quoting a source in an interview.
Finding Freedom author Omid Scobie claims the Duke and Duchess’s frustration with Buckingham Palace officials ‘came to a head’ when Harry was asked to co-sign a statement denying a story that cast Prince William in a bad light.
A piece from The Times claimed the future king had ‘constantly bullied’ the Sussexes before they decided to quit royal duties.
When her husband was asked to deny the story, Meghan allegedly messaged an aide saying: ‘Well, if we’re just throwing any statement out there now, then perhaps KP can finally set the record straight about me [not making Kate cry].’
She then asked why her ‘side of the story public image was never considered important to anyone’, Mr Scobie claimed in a piece for Harpers Bazaar.
The author continued: ‘But, as with many requests made by the couple, her suggestion was ignored. The Duchess of Cambridge, she was told, should never be dragged into idle gossip.’ ......
Who does she think she is? She comes across as peeved and childish.
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@WBBM
You were wondering about the merching of clothing while on royal family duty. But if that was the case that Megalo was at it, surely that's fraud? Selling something that Charles paid for and keeping the money (or sharing with Jessica). It would be delicious if it could be priced she had defrauded the BRF, although she'd claim racism. I wonder if the press could find out. We need serious investigative journalism.
I think Enty has zero information on the RF unless you want to believe Pippa is a coke snorting yachter as enty once posted IIRC. Plus, like you said, he may have been tipped off for that particular issue.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1370198948221128705
I doubt that he's 'torched' his career. I think that he's on to a more lucrative position. Maybe he could go to work for the BRF in public relations (grin). Maybe he could do a (subscription) podcast daily about how ridiculous Meghan, Oprah, et al. are. (I would subscribe to his no holds barred point of view.) Unlike Harry and Meghan, he would probably be able to live on a measly $5 million per year.
/I know a person that actually 'did' torch his career. He stormed out in a rage and set his company truck on fire. The company gave him a substantial raise and a brand new truck because he generated millions in revenue for the company. The moral of the story is if you want to torch anything, you should be a rainmaker.
CDAN can be fun to read but you have to take their blind items with a large heap of salt. The tabloids stories often have a lot of factual information but are dramatized so much, they are often dismissed.
When The Times of London publishes a story on MM's staff stating they were abused that is BIG news.
Opinion pieces by Camilla Tominey are also quite credible.
Personally, I don't think they did themselves any favors by taking a family dispute to Oprah, but we'll see how this plays out in the next months.
Thank you for that Twitter link. So hilarious! 😂💕
Yeah, Oprah is *not* considered anything but fluff. Fluff can be lucrative because it makes people feel good in comparison without having to put forth much in the way of effort.
For example, she is all over the alleged (no proof whatsoever) racism in the BRF, but she does *nothing* about addressing the extreme dysfunction and racism in the black communities in her state. Now, why would that be?
It's possible neither Kate or Meghan cried during the actual fitting but Kate was crying when she left.
I suspect M's focus now is simply because she has emails she can use so the story has to be resurrected. I realize M is like a dog with a bone re: perceived insults. And she collects them. But I'm not sure she's been brooding on that incident for years. It's just handy for the narrative and once resurrected for the narrative, all M's negative feelings flooded back as though it happened yesterday especially as if Kate mentioned protocol--that would have been another reminder M didn't fit in.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-we-care-about-the-royal-family-feud-11615507719
She wrote “ Someday Elizabeth II will leave us and the world will honestly mourn, not only because of what she represented but because she was old-style. She performed but wasn’t performative. She was appropriately, heroically contained, didn’t share her emotions because after all it wasn’t about her, it was about a kingdom, united. You could rely on her to love her country and commonwealth; she was born and raised to love them. And so she has been for the world a constant. And in this world, a constant is a valuable thing.”
Is it legal for her to be sharing and publishing emails she sent tonHR? Doesn’t the company/firm own any emails sent to them or if company email addresses were used?
It *would* be hilarious if the BRF sued Meghan, Oprah, Gayle, CBS for gross invasion of privacy and copyright issues in a British court.
Peggy Noonan has a brilliant editorial on WSJ.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-we-care-about-the-royal-family-feud-11615507719
She wrote “ Someday Elizabeth II will leave us and the world will honestly mourn, not only because of what she represented but because she was old-style. She performed but wasn’t performative. She was appropriately, heroically contained, didn’t share her emotions because after all it wasn’t about her, it was about a kingdom, united. You could rely on her to love her country and commonwealth; she was born and raised to love them. And so she has been for the world a constant. And in this world, a constant is a valuable thing.”
Agreed. QEII is a comforting constant in a world gone mad. I'm not in the UK nor do I have friends or family there, but I will sincerely mourn her selflessness, dedication and duty.
The paragraph sums up the Queen beautifully. And yes, she "is a comforting constant in a world gone mad.", thank you SwampWoman. She provides some stability. I am so angry that that harpy berated the BRF while sitting there looking wounded. She never cared about the Queen, the rest of the BRF and the UK, she only cares about herself. I can't wait for her to get her comeuppance.
“ The Duchess of Cambridge, she was told, should never be dragged into idle gossip.”
Brilliant! In other words, we cannot stoop to your level.
perhaps M&H are trying to bait the palace into releasing emails for another lawsuit.
Camilla Tominey has mentioned that the palace aid who quit, (MT?) and has been accused of misconduct by the Harkles has considered suing against the claim.
The Royal Family does sue, but it is usually kept under wraps. Just H admitted in his notorious, threatening letter to the press whilst dating M that practically every day he has to threaten or sue the free press. The letter was a shocker to almost everybody, as nobody had heard of old Megs until then, and if they did, assumed she was white, as she stated on her resume. She told people she was an ethnic Italian, or Jewish. When I heard her name, I googled her. In Wikipedia she says she is very Jewish in her feelings. Everything about her past in the coming months were erased from every site possible.
I remember when Oprah wore colored contacts. She was condemned for being ashamed of her race. She stopped wearing them. Why didn’t Oprah ask M about her self-hate, lies on documents, using white men all her life for everything she received, from childhood, up to now? Her plastic surgery to look like Kate?
And for goodness sake, why isn’t the media calling on Harry about his own racism. Ask does he still own his Nazi uniform, why did he slur so many people with racist names, why he is friends with the Lesotho Prince, living in palaces in the poorest African palace, and the family accused of taking foreign aid and charity money for themselves. Billions have disappeared in Lesotho.
Two hours long but I know I will watch some of it.
The Behavior Panel
Meghan and Harry Oprah Interview Body Language Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyEx20DiKU
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Meghan and Harry Oprah Interview Body Language Analysis
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The Meghan and Harry Oprah interview is big news. What do four of the world's top body language and behavior experts make of their relationship and revelations of racism in this explosive interview?
Here, the New York Times pontificate on how the noble Duchess has stripped away Britain’s Dirtee secrecy about racial inequality. SMH so hard it’s about to snap off. If another biracial woman, one without a stew pot of personality disorders and a sketchy grifting past, And without a toxic obsession with Harry’s dead mother and his sister-in-law who snagged the future king—If Harry had married anyone else of color who Had stayed longer in the family for more than a year before leveling charges of racism, I would have given her claims some credence. I am just gob smacked that Megalo is in any way accepted as a credible witness. A woman who pretended to be 100% Caucasian for nearly 35 years, before deciding to audition for the role as Britain’s biracial princess, with all its attendant Boodle and privileges, Was given a lavish wedding And Royal patronages and solo visits with the Queen That it took her white British sister-in-law years to earn. She was awarded lavish international tours that she treated like private holidays when she wasn’t treating the citizens, many of whom were of color especially in South Africa, with contempt. Her 18 months or so tenure in the royal family consisted of 80 days of “work“, and all the rest was some form of pregnancy leave, postpartum leave, Mommy bonding time leave, or mental health break/holidays with celebrities/ostentatious baby shower. When precisely would Meg have had time to endure Systemic racist treatment from her in-laws? Her only actual complaint appears to have been one comment, heard secondhand, about someone wondering whether her baby would look biracial. Given the dodgy circumstances surrounding her gestation, Perhaps the questioner was actually wondering if Rachel was in any way involved in the child’s genes. That might account for why the speculation has to be brutally shut down with the charge of racism, because Rachel cannot allow the alternative to become part of the public dialogue. At any rate, she provided no other specifics of racially motivated mistreatment from her marriage family. Her main grievance otherwise seemed to be who bullied who over bridesmaids dresses and whether flowers were as suitable apology. No racial stuff there. She struck the match and now she’s gleefully watching the pyrotechnics she’s lit up. Talk about a narc fuel supply.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/world/europe/britain-race-meghan-harry.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm&fb_news_token=Cnr7hymfG2%2B5Aj%2F18FqDjA%3D%3D.clQhUkpgKyj8VV3l5sDI1arSusI%2FVZ60e9u3pClRLHFL6l6ZR2sbKV0zWsXhdZ%2FaaB6kihaxvn29FVeAzKR1JimzIChXyxNFdzFrOvpv1Y%2BZh%2FQCMJEqO3drVuf0kMWn%2BVDOy9y9vZlMTmwzEhTLnBE7S%2FT%2FjBMuEpSDof3cwzqfCOdPCE3m6rOWkLJ%2BuRapDdnGe4khco9HlUtWK5ly6Xzxf6ck3SHSwCwDvRixV4zLc9UvZMSLy8zFZSan9rWHpa70b7ypK1canRcLtn88waednsPDJdkvP1J36rsK0g0%3D
“ It's just handy for the narrative and once resurrected for the narrative, all M's negative feelings flooded back as though it happened yesterday especially as if Kate mentioned protocol--that would have been another reminder M didn't fit in.”
I think she has nothing else on Kate but had to throw mud at her out of spite and jealousy. Kate was always very careful when she was seen with Megalo. Plus, she helped her out publicly (the Christmas walk in 2019 and Wimbledon). She played nice and polite. The one time that Kate let us see how she truly feels was at the commonwealth service last year when she completely ignored the green goblin.
Megalo cannot stand how popular Catherine has become thanks to the Harkles’ shenanigans. She has everything Megalo has ever wanted and never had: a loving (rich) family, natural beauty and grace, self confidence and, most importantly, a genuine loving relationship with her best friend and love of her life William - a future king.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what `merching 'means?
I was taking it to indicate she was wearing/using something to advertise it & sell identical ones from the fashion house or knock-off `fake versions' on an associated website. Not that she was flogging the clothes off her back and keeping the cash.
I understand clothing no longer needed by Royals can be given to their staff as a `perks' of the job, little extras.
There's a good description of these `perquisites' at-
https://www.roberthalf.com/blog/compensation-and-benefits/10-top-perks-and-benefits-that-win-employees-over
Staff are not expected to use these items themselves it but sell them on via dress agencies and are permitted to keep the proceeds. I bought a 1980s jacket in a charity shop a couple of years ago which struck me as `very Diana'; indeed, the label showed it came from a fashion house from which D occasionally bought clothes. A vintage piece which I got for a tenner or less, although I haven't seen a photo of her it yet. Strangely, I found it in James Hewitt territory!
Although Yahoo seems to think that wearing clothes a second time is the same as `recycling', some of the perceived `stuffiness' of the Royals could be a deceptive image projected by their wearing classic, well-fitting, clothes in high quality natural fibres, intended to last years. No chuck-away stuff from Primark...
All the email shows is she has her own ‘truth evidence’ for her narrative. Where are the other emails and ‘gotchas’? Name something else Meghan.
With all the wonderful commentary it got me thinking- why IS she so focused on the ‘rewrite my history, the palace ignored me always!’ She’s losing and missing out on the race play, as other commenters have pointed out. Is it that she doesn’t want to be portrayed as Black in America, now that is all everyone is talking about?
What I think it really shows is that she expected the British public to back her after the interview. She is raging that she is getting the same response ‘Go Away’ and low approval ratings. As much as she cancelled an entire country, that country has cancelled her! She is Narc and cannot stand it. She hates the place yet is determined to get their admiration. Think about it- she’s an exiled duchess and cannot show her face again. The British have boundaries. This is infuriating her. She’s not swaying public opinion. She won’t be a global leader. She won’t be invited to Davos. She won’t be able to get deals in the U.K. As a non working Royal. It’s a mess for her, really.
You are very brave. I stopped reading American newspapers since this diatribe has aired. Reading the headlines makes me mad. I am gobsmacked by the lack of knowledge, research, lack of journalistic ethics and the interference with another country’s political system with articles demanding the end of the monarchy. She whined on national television about her extremely privileged life and good fortune when people are loosing their lives, their loved ones, their jobs, their homes, their sanity from lockdowns and homeschooling etc etc and she is praised?!
Never learns, does she?
Official poll results comparing the British vs. USA public reaction to Meghan and Harry’s interview.
Hikari and Others- I thought long ago that Piers was extremely interested in Meghan borderline romantically. I think she poured on the flirty charm with him. Yes, Piers is married but I think he let his mind wander into a different direction. He felt ghosted and markles of course, but it's clear that she made him feel stupid for starting to fall for some of her charms.
Lastly, just when it seemed like the furvor was dying off, CBS is going to show the interview again. WHY. Just an outrage all the way around. I just don't know any more.
The Queen and Charles better get their acts together and fast. They started to fight before the interview but have pulled in their horns. How's the bullying investigation going?
What I have learned from the interview is sad:
- what seems an ordinary question to ask a pregnant couple is not allowed anymore, especially if a POC.
- what did the royal family in Today's climate mean to H&M? Harry blithely saying he was born into it - that he is a prince, therefore he would always have protection. So was Bea and Eugenie - they had their protection cut. What part of "you are either in or out" did he not understand?
- why is Megs playing the race card now? Is it the only card she had to play? If Charles as Monarch did not make Archie a prince, I could see her playing it and winning. Now makes no sense given the total picture of the Royal family. PH was never going be more than #6 in line. Megs was always going to have to curtsey to Catherine. Finding Freedom versus the preoccupation with the titles is a contradiction.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9344139/RICHARD-KAY-Did-Kates-friendship-Harry-cause-rift-Meghan.html
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara.tumblr.com/post/645473209551028224/the-saga-continues
My telenovela heart wants this to go to court dragging Oprah, Gayle, and the Sussexes to give evidence. Televised. And ANL wins.
Re. BridesmaidGate
After the fact, Smug is claiming that Catherine hurt her feelings, poor widdle thin skinned snowflake over “ some issue with the bridesmaids dresses that she was upset about.“ That is extremely vague. One supposes that she would certainly remember the specifics of the situation or remark that hurt her feelings so terribly she broke down crying. But all she says is “some issue”. There appear to have been several issues at that fateful fitting in fact: Take your pick as to which of these may have created tears for someone—Meg demanding a fitting at short notice, Inconveniencing Catherine who had only given birth two or three weeks prior; bridezilla slamming a three-year-old as “too fat” because her dress didn’t fit properly... as if a child of Kate and William could remotely be too fat, plus she was three years old; the issue of tights: protocol Dictated that tights in church was proper, even for little ones. You don’t see the boys barelegged either. Was Catherine attacked after reminding Meg about the tights rule, Which of course bridezilla was determined to flout because Meg Thrives on opposition. Had it been a beach wedding, she would’ve insisted on tights I bet.
The most sinister possibility is not a wardrobe disagreement between the adults, But rather some physical and or verbal altercation from bridezilla to princess Charlotte. Who here doubts that bridezilla would’ve thought nothing of yelling or swearing at an antsy Three-year-old, or even laying hands on her. Probably not slapping, but maybe grabbing roughly or shoving her. Surely that would reduce a hormonal new mother to tears. Since Catherine offered flowers and an apology the next day, I tend to think it was just a war of words. If megmonster Had physically assaulted Charlotte, I think H would have had to find a new best man at the last minute. If word reach the queen that Harry’s difficult diva had actually struck Williams Child, would that have been enough to cancel the wedding altogether?
The children’s outfits look like absolute shite, And that is something that is going to live on in perpetuity. The narrative that Kate was the one in tears has never been contradicted up till now, because up till now it’s served Meg to paint Catherine as weak and emotional, i.e. not the superwoman Meg is. I think that story was repeated over and over with such relish from megs camp as payback for Catherine chastising her for being rude to the staff. But for the orca interview, Mugsy decided to adopt the vulnerable, mentally fragile outsider role..And et voila— Catherine gets transformed into the bully. What a nifty trick.
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I think there's a whiff of that, too. Wounded masculine pride.
She probably led him to believe there was something on offer, and there probably was. Quid pro quo. Let me use your contacts and...
This is utterly disturbing and twisted. The only fun part is the still image DM chose of Megalo and she looks like an evil witch!
Scottish body language expert *Believing Bruce* has his Oprah interview analysis up on YouTube.
Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtPkEPIAwZw
Just under 30 minutes in length.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7437373/I-want-break-internet-Meghan-Markle-told-PR-firm.html
'I want to break the internet': What Meghan Markle 'told PR firm' amid claims she 'cares more about publicity in the US than her reputation in the UK'
• Meghan Markle looking to create a team which isn't 'bogged down' by tradition
• The Duchess wants to build a team to help her and Harry work on projects
• Said to be trying to get maximum coverage in the U.S media rather than the UK
By TERRI-ANN WILLIAMS FOR MAILONLINE
Might itbe worth making a note of who's in her team?
https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/articles-reports/2021/03/08/meghan-markle-prince-harry-oprah-interview-poll
Official poll results comparing the British vs. USA public reaction to Meghan and Harry’s interview.
I don't think a tiny, self-selected poll of a tiny minority of people that were bored or brain-dead enough to watch the interview in America could be called representative of USA public reactions. I would say the USA public reaction would be either "Who cares? Idiots!" or "Who?"
I can say that the male reaction about PH is that (1) he needs to get his testicles back, and (2) PH must be at the Forrest Gump level of stupidity because he could have had supermodels at his beck and call but noooooo, he marries an odd-looking woman that is always whining about everything and looks a mess. Meanwhile, it's looking like poor PH can't afford a new shirt or pair of shoes.
@tatty - If I ever come across anyone wearing a romper, there’s going to be zero sex never mind anything dodgy...
"Yes, Piers is married but I think he let his mind wander into a different direction. He felt ghosted and markles of course, but it's clear that she made him feel stupid for starting to fall for some of her charms.
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I think there's a whiff of that, too. Wounded masculine pride.
She probably led him to believe there was something on offer, and there probably was. Quid pro quo. Let me use your contacts and..."
Piers has always been a petty b****h. He was just as fixated on Heather Mills McCartney who he claims to have introduced to Paul McCartney.
He wrote column after column after bitchy comment about her poor character long after everyone had moved on.
Meghan is his Heather replacement.
You can swop out Heather's name for Meghan and vice versa in all his columns on them.
That said his current wife, Celia Walden, also seems to hate Meghan though her columns for the Telegraph tend to position her vitriol in a way that criticises Meghan's woke, LA persona than her character. Ie she says Meghan is horrible because she's a woke Los Angeles, Hollywood airhead who is insisting on being part of our normal lives in that typical narc Hollywood way.
Bridezillas often choose horrid looking dresses for thei bridesmaids so they ,the bride, shines the brightest. MM has certainly heard the 'never work with children or animals' saying.
Catherine at fitting.... MM should know all about hormones of pregnant women. Shes whined about how delicate and vulnerable she was/pregnant women are in her interviews. So she shoukd have given Cate a break.
She also whined (prior to archies birth) about how she didnt feel the need post pregnancy to stand for pictures at the hospital . Of course that story changed in the O interview.
Peggy Noonan is an excellent writer, she was a speech writer for Presidents Reagan and the first Bush. Regardless of your politics, you cannot deny her talent and reasoned thinking.
NY Times has a story on how MM's mental health during pregnancy is something women can relate to. They are setting her up as a thought leader on mental health and pregnancy. Most of the comments were praising her but many were not as positive, noting the extreme wealth and advantages she has.
Whether we like her or not, and I don't care for her, very influential people like Oprah and editors of the NY Time's are really promoting her in the USA.
@AnT
You're close on the accent but not quite there.
Bruce comes from Northumberland (born in Amble) so he's English form south of the Border. That accent is very distinctive - it's a North-Eastern English one. It's to be heard from the border with Yorkshire , going up through County Durham, past Hadrian's Wall Which marks the Scottish Border only in the west (despite what I've seen in guides to our Citizenship Test!) to the River Tweed which is more or less the border on the eastern side. On the east coast the Border is a bit north of Berwick.
I'm sure that AvaC can tell us more about where the boundary between Scots & NE English really lies. I spent a year in Durham so know the more southern voice well.
Try this for really strong Tyneside/Newcastle/Geordie (working class)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRW2lo-xcik
The clues in the diphthong vowels. Some vocabulary in common with Scots - eg `bairns' and also some pronunciation; before 1066 the language across the region, up to Edinburgh, was Northumbrian English.
CBS is being ripped for misleading montage of headlines regarding Meghan as follows:
"Associated Newspapers, which publishes Britain's Mail Online, the Daily Mail and The Mail On Sunday, wrote to Viacom CBS this week, accusing CBS of doctoring tabloid images in a montage featured in Oprah Winfrey's interview with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry."
"In a Friday statement, Associated Newspapers issued support for the First Amendment and decried racism, but accused the interview of using doctored images of headlines. The company is calling for an investigation at CBS and for the montage to be removed from repeat broadcasts. A representative for the American company did not immediately return a request for comment."
The statement said, "This is indefensible. It was inaccurate and viewers of their programme will have been seriously misled. It lent apparent support to claims that the Duchess of Sussex had been subjected to racist coverage by the British press."
In a Friday letter reviewed by TheWrap, Associated Newspapers wrote to CBS head of litigation Naomi Waltman: "As a responsible broadcaster with integrity we believe therefore that you will deprecate, as we do, the deliberate distortion and doctoring of newspaper headlines in the misleading montage of British newspapers broadcast in 'Oprah with Meghan and Harry'. Many of the headlines have been either taken out of context or deliberately edited and displayed as supporting evidence for the programme's claim that the Duchess of Sussex was subjected to racist coverage by the British press. This editing was not made apparent to viewers and, as a result, this section of the programme is both seriously inaccurate and misleading."
The company went on: "One of the most egregious of the examples, so far as we are concerned, is the headline 'Meghan's seed will taint our Royal Family'. The original, unedited, headline in fact was a report of the suspension from UKIP of someone over this and other racist texts about Meghan. The headline you have broadcast is neither accurate nor could it be said to be an expression of "creative integrity". It is a thoroughly dishonest misrepresentation of a newspaper headline and article which was the opposite of racist. No one viewing the programme would have understood this from the montage."
Attached to the letter were screenshots of tabloid headlines featured in the Sunday interview as well as the headlines that ran online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/daily-mail-rips-cbs-oprah-winfrey-for-inaccurate-and-doctored-tabloid-images-in-meghan-harry-interview/ar-BB1ewJCB?ocid=msedgntp
Unbelievable. I suppose she'll sue now?
I apologise to @JennS for using far too many subordinate clauses and thus confusing her as to where I thought the quote came from. Twitter is not the real world - and neither is the posturing of grip and drip. The real world is being awoken by my doorbell at some ungodly hour this morning and on picking up the intercom phone hearing my Bangla neighbour's apologetic voice informing me that he had forgotten his key and would I let him in. I bumped into him in town later on and he again profusely apologised brandishing in my face his keys which he had this time out remembered. That is the reality of race relations not Markle's baiting.
One also should not take seriously the nonsense that the American press write about England. It is in my view projection. Americans can have some very strange ideas about us (just as we can about America): a decade ago I was talking by phone to an American woman who explained that she would not like to attend a soccer match in England because of the risk of being murdered thereat. I laughed at this and told her she was mistaken as to her risk of soccer death, but no matter what I said she would not budge from her belief. That woman has two 'hard' degrees, one, at least, from a highly prestigious American Woman's college.
Ironically my dear hubby was pro Irish, not very pro-British and definitely anti Monarchy. I had to hide my admiration after stumbling on a royal procession while visiting London and saw all the royals and wonderful carriages for the new Spanish Ambassador to present his credentials at Buckingham Palace. Not sure exactly what changed for my hubby though. Maybe a couple great trips to England and the lovely people in the SouthDowns area made it possible or it was the Brexit vote. But wow, the other day, after hearing Markles and her pet monkey criticize the crown, he unleashed a big anti-woke pro monarchy rant I ever heard. I'm thinking we have a trip to England in the future when lockdowns are done!!
"That will be interesting if she does report him to Ofcom, what with the new head being Paul Dacre. Once again, she fails to check the details."
That is hilarious. 😂😂😂😂
-they want the titles, yet want to find freedom
-the want protection, yet don’t want to do the job that comes with it
-they want privacy, yet go on prime time Oprah
-they want to speak their version of events, but block any opinions on their opinion.
-they want half commitment, but all the perks
-they want complete support and loyalty, but do not support anyone else fully
-they want global adoration, while deriding entire powerful western countries and populations
-they want to bring press court cases and complaints, forgetting there are bigger pockets that will turn around and destroy them
-they want to tease the world with her baby bumps, and claim privacy is their number one goal for their child
-they pay paps, make money on the photos, then include their child on purpose to then sue the paps
-they want to make money from their efforts, and do not want to support the family business or give their cut
-they want to write whatever story and hide behind privacy laws
-they bend the social rules of racism, but when questioned others should be punished as pariahs
-they want sympathy for mental illness, while running mental health campaigns and claiming to have the answers
To sum: They don’t want to take responsibility.
Interesting all the DM surrogacy stories. I read there is a passage in FF where they name the dr that delivered Archie and her husband said she did not deliver him. This was a year ago
Swampwoman you may not be wrong. Michigan governor under investigation regarding nursing homes as well. Same ones that want to divide us wish the elderly dead. Heck even Oprah said racism wont die until all old men die. Quote is out there somewhere
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That makes a whole lot more sense.
I couldn't see Catherine saying anything about tights because protocol. I think by then she would have been happy to let the chips fall as they may. She wouldn't have had a vested interest in tights, imo. Not much else was protocol, so why would she care if that was.
But, oth, if her daughter's dress was too short, I could see her proposing tights as a solution to not having to re-do the dress.
Now Meghan Markle makes a formal complaint to Ofcom about Piers Morgan after Good Morning Britain presenter said he 'didn't believe a word' of her Oprah Winfrey interview
Markle complained to ITV bosses about Morgan, the former co-host of GMB
Following the Operah interview aired, Morgan said he did not believe Markle
She reportedly raised concerns with ITV about the effect Morgan's comments may have on the issue of mental health, and on those suffering with issues
Morgan quit GMB on Tuesday after an on-air row with a colleague who criticised him for 'continuing to trash' Markle, and has since repeated his condemnation
The couple's popularity has plummeted in the wake of the explosive broadcast
Morgan said he quit GMB after refusing to apologise for 'disbelieving' Markle
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This comes at zero cost to Megs while Piers might have to spend on lawyers. Megs sics the UK gov't agency OfCom on Piers.
The Woke Credo --- Drag down those who criticize you. Never debate them. Piers will do OK but she would love to destroy his career. How about when Piers returns to media he might treat Megs/Hapless very gingerly? Then mission accomplished for Megs.
Well spotted! I didn't know Dacre was the head of Ofcom. She won't know what hit her. She thinks she's invincible 😊
'How about when Piers returns to media he might treat Megs/Hapless very gingerly? Then mission accomplished for Megs.'
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I sincerely hope not. Piers could get the press to destroy her if he wanted.
https://inews.co.uk/news/media/piers-morgan-what-next-itv-quit-gmb-rows-meghan-markle-alex-beresford-911920?s=08
It's interesting to compare the Behavior Panel's conclusions with Bruce's. They see a whole different angle to both Harry and MM's body language, voice level, etc.
As for who they think discussed what color that Archie may be, Greg gives a huge hint. Watch for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyEx20DiKU
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Is anybody else feeling exhausted by this Harkle mess and the interview? I'm at the point where I can barely think straight. That's why I'm not posting much these past few days. I just feel constantly bombarded or attacked by The Harkles and their antics, and it's not a pleasant feeling.
Kate and Meghan - thinking of the current crying controversy, it's entirely possible they both cried but due to the drama of the moment, and probably Meghan storming off, neither knew the other was doing it. They only remember how they themselves reacted. Also, I expect Kate was trying to hide it, if Charlotte was there too.
They should just agree BOTH cried. Though of course I'm Team Kate all the way. What she had to deal with - imminent or very recent childbirth, two young children and a massively stressed husband who is also a future king. Not to mention, in a way, losing Harry as a friend who she even lived with for a while. He may as well have joined a cult. I have a dim memory years back that she teased him about the state of his shoes as she got tired of seeing them that way. Meghan probably doesn't even notice, much less care.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9356741/Harry-Meghan-inconvenient-truth.html
Yes to Harkle fatigue and exhaustion. Also a sense of defeat; If these two wealthy, privileged idiots can’t find happiness, can’t acquire mental health care, etc., then what hope is there for us ordinary peasants?
There’s a lot of money to be made.
Meghan and Harry's Oprah interview left many 'reaching for sick bucket' TV host claims
Sky News Australia presenter Alan Jones slammed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's interview with the chat show legend as "contrived and made-up nonsense" in a furious rant.
A controversial Australian TV host has launched a scathing attack on Meghan Markle and Prince Harry saying their interview with Oprah Winfrey will have left many viewers "reaching for the chuck bucket".
Outspoken Aussie Sky News host Alan Jones, who has a long history of attacking the Royal couple, called the interview "contrived and made-up nonsense," said Meghan was "fake", and claimed, "Prince Harry it would appear, is long gone, captured by the untruths of Ms Markle.... and the victimhood she professes to endure".
He also claimed: "If Harry and Meghan went back to Britain, they’d be booed. I think there’d be a lot of people happy to join in!"
Alan has a long history of attacking the couple.
He previously slammed them for speaking out against climate change "despite taking private jets everywhere," and said when a teary Meghan Markle said she was "not okay" during the filming of Meghan and Harry: An African Journey, it was "self-indulgent rubbish", adding, "imagine spending time in Africa around the poorest of the poor - people who have no possessions - and you're carrying on. Have these two people got no awareness at all?" ...
Saying out loud what everybody is thinking 😁
Have you nutties seen the report that Charles wanted to issue a step-by-step rebuttal but the Queen prevailed? I would have appreciated a formal rebuttal going especially to the White House. This has done so much damage. Meghan's version is becoming embedded in the US.
Going by William's reply to that journalist, both he and his father would be doing more than is currently allowed. Meghan knew they were unlikely to be able to answer back and she's certainly made the most of it. I wonder what Prince Philip's response would have been if he hadn't been hospitalised?
@Jocelyn'sBellinis
'Is anybody else feeling exhausted by this Harkle mess and the interview?'
Yes, we certainly are but most of all, I just cannot bear to see the Harpy's fake wounded face everywhere 🤢 while she insulted the BRF
I agree — Bruce is seeing something quite different. It almost felt like he was emotionally swept away wanting to believe in them or get us into her cause. I didn’t expect that. Did you have that impression too?
I felt the panel was less emotional about it, focused on the task at hand, and more on point with their analysis.
I’m with you on that. Only William’s pithy response is keeping me from throwing up my hands.
Have you nutties seen the report that Charles wanted to issue a step-by-step rebuttal but the Queen prevailed?
I haven't seen that report. Was it on the news or in print?
I watched two of the Alan Jones broadcast opinion pieces on YouTube yesterday. He is going carry the anti Harkle flag as long as it takes, I think. Not too sure about his approach but I can see him being a willing receptor for revelations about Archie, yachting, the bullying charges, so people might be willing to share details with his team. We will see. Certainly he, Piers, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens won’t be backing down anytime soon to appease the mob.
One of the great things about cases in court is this that no matter how confident one might be or how much one talks up the excellence of ones case, one day you will arrive in court; you may not get that opportunity to make that great speech you have so long rehearsed and where eventually the Judge says that he finds against you. How often have I seen litigants suddenly dumb-struck, in denial that despite months and years of hope they have lost. Life must go on but not the case. It is over. Unfortunately the Markle saga is not like that; there is no sell-by-date. It will only stop if the Crown acts but the Crown have shown no resolve to do so any more than they had resolve to forbid the marriage.
I have always been worried that the Harkles would usher in a Republic. This time last year when I was voicing these concerns a friend of mine scoffed at me. I was over-reacting. Was I?
They think it's either Charles or William who made the "what will the children look like" comment, and they tend to think it's Charles. But they seemed to think it was made not in a derogatory manner. But Harry took it that way. I just have a feeling they are a bit wrong on that. & harry said it happened at beginning of relationship which doesn't make sense. But i don't think it was meant in a derogatory way when it happened. I think it was just a random conversation that is normally had when people are having a child. I have a feeling H told M about the conversation and M twisted it to be a negative.
It was interesting to listen to them describe the relationship. That H can equally control M with hand movements, giving subtle messages. But they did agree that there is Narcissist behavior going on, especially her and even some of his.
I mean, to be honest, I’d be a bit frustrated by a guy that didn’t know how to cope in the world and fend for himself- but who is Meghan kidding - that is her favorite type of guy, one she could lead around.
When does the resentment start playing into their relationship? After granny passes and they get some money (or are they written out)...after Meghan has to work through her maternity leave since she is solo and not in a corporation...once Meghan starts bringing in Netflix money (maybe) and decides Harry is deadweight like Trevor...or will she meet someone?
Why does it seem inevitable they will split and it will be on Meghan’s terms.
Because Meghan is always going to put herself first. Always.
1) fame
2) her truth (!)
3) fortune/riches
Where else have we seen this playbook. I’m not kidding, it’s in every ‘why is Oprah successful’ article out there.
Thank you for identifying Bruce and his accent! A friend sent his YouTube link, some Harry one, to me last year and identified him to me as a Scottish workplace coach and body language expert, so I assumed she was right (dumb of me as she is from Maine, not the U.K.).
My husband then watched a YT he did on Conor Mcgregor and told me “Yah, but he isn’t Scottish” at the time. I told him he was wrong, and stoutly said he sounded like a work friend of mine who was born near Glasgow (though, uhhhhhhhhh yes, she was raised since childhood in northern England).
....Gah now I have to tell Mr AnT he is right yet again! 😵 weekend of him gloating ahead!
But seriously, thanks for clarifying that! I love reading your posts on history, and now, on geography and language! ❤️
You had he same feeling that I did. Bruce seemed almost desperate to make the Harkles look good. His bias was showing. I think the Behavior Panel did a much better job in trying to stick to the facts (what we saw in the interview), and they looked at it from several angles.
I could tell that the BP guys were holding back on some things, but that's because they are either ex-military or teach military. I think they were being careful because they didn't want to start an international incident by saying everything they got out of those clips.
I get not wanting to roll in the gutter.
I'm not talking about lowering themselves to shouting back and forth. I'm thinking of some type of formal response to the allegations, correcting the lies and revealing Markle as a scam artist and psychopath.
The point of this post is to ask about the 'never complain, never explain' attitude. Is this something they are forced to live by?
In reading all over people's responses to this interview I've seen some express sympathy for the monarchy saying that the RF can't say anything in response.
Is this some type of rule? Is the monarchy not allowed to respond to negative press? I don't get it!
I understand the fact they may need to resolve their part in allowing this to happen but I don't get the laying down to die attitude when they are in such serious trouble. They have advisors and lawyers to help them launch the right type of response.
I know that Archimedes said "Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I will move the world!" Sorry, Archimedes, but you would not have been able to lever me away from that gorgeous hunk o' man.
Is Ireland still as beautiful as the movie?
I love it — Oprah’s agenda! Great information. Never even thought of that.
Do you think Megs can pull it off though?
Oprah was the relatable single working woman best friend. What is Megs?
They mentioned the Diana statue event, questioned whether the brothers would come together for the unveiling and stated that Harry had not yet purchased airfare.
They also did a segment on Sharon Osborn's apology over the Piers stuff.
No mention of any clearing up of falsehoods that I heard and for some reason my DVR will not let me rewind to re-hear the spot.
Piersing Missile
We need more like Piers Morgan
With his veritable mouth organ
Globally exposing Megs grifts
Like a dog with a bone
He won’t leave her alone
Until she no longer Megxists!
Great point. Oprah portrayed the girl in the office you could cry over a coffee in the break room too when your boyfriend dumped you.
I think we’re seeing that Meghan is not relatable at all, thus her hyperbolic assertions to represent groups: race/mental illness/mothering. She’s trying desperately to brand herself, while also going ‘oh but I’ve moved past that now- give us your stories!!!!’ Not many American women go husband hunting in foreign countries. The luck of marrying a prince? Rarer. The luck of the prince being a total idiot? There’s just 1 on this planet apparently.
I still can’t pinpoint who she can make money from.
Ozzy Man Reviews: Oprah's BIG Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PShVQpBM5Zk
I can’t believe you mentioned that film. Isn’t it absolutely wonderful? Fact: Every single winter, between Christmas and New Year’s, Mr AnT and I curl up with a bottle of wine and watch “The Quiet Man” - we love it so much. Absolute tradition with us. The performances, setting, humor, storyline!
Mr AnT relates to John Wayne’s character, Sean (Mr AnT is Irish too, County Tyrone, but basically physically a Mike Tindall as a lawyer, And part of his family moved to NYC, so a load of Irish brothers and friends who still proudly recount all their fights and boxing, from kids to barrooms).I relate to Maureen O’Hara’s Kate for a few reasons, and we kind of spar like them sometimes especially when we met and it just makes us laugh. Mr AnT loves the bit with the Catholic priest and Protestant minister. I love the courting wagon, and her determination to have her things. And we always say, god, they don’t make movies like this anymore.
So much fun that you mentioned it!
Tidbit: to get Maureen’s reaction just right, Ford told Wayne to drag her through the fields that way, and not to tell her he was going to do it!
Nonetheless I read Wayne and she were lifetime friends.
Exactly! Megs only reminds me of this spiky woman I once worked with. We all tiptoed around her because she was either beaming and socializing and handing out homemade cookies, or in buckets of tears over tiny work bumps, or ripping someone’s head off. No one wanted to spend their lunch with her because she was a creepy little time bomb, who would actually go to HR to report that the people she ate with got back to their desk seven minutes after she did, and that she felt that they were thinking negative things about her food choice or shoes, and they didn’t always include her in hallway chat.....
If that is what Megs is packaging, maybe she can appeal to the creepy spiky people who are like her?
I think it was Spencer Morgan or someone on his Twitter thread that had some info that many sugars are roughly 13 years old.
“not many American women go husband hunting in foreign countries” — lol don’t tell that to Hallmark, or Hollywood! But seriously I know what you mean, Even fewer go yachting with chubby rich old geezers for five thousand dollars for four days of “workity work work.”
If Megs is now “aspirational” it is for people who want to see how far lying, griffins, and complaining and ruining lives can get them? Did Meghan get incredibly lucky that she popped during a time suddenly when lies cannot be questioned?
💥👏 “the luck of the prince being a total idiot?”
Cheers Puds, metoo, so bloody sick
of her!!! Armegeddon!!
Camilla’s best friend died the day of the interview.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏⚡️⚡️⚡️😄
I hope Piers never backs down on this. I have a strong feeling he is already inking a deal for a new gig — the head of one of the two new news channels offered him a job within minutes of the news of his quitting.
Puds, Megs will be too busy,
flogging faux cashmere cardigans
on QVC!
ARod
Bezos
Elon
????? Who does she have the best chance at landing?
AnT, yes, reckon he’ll head up
Murdochs new enterprise 😉
Yes Piers has a lot of other irons in the fire! But now I thought there was something new about him staying at ITV after all???
I wish he would write an expose on the Harkles.
AnT ARod,
Wokey Races!
Anyway -- God save the Queen! And many more years for Prince Philip!
One reason of those possible reasons that someone mentioned awhile back is that its possible Harry made the remark. Makes some sense. I see @Jdubya reports the Behavior Panel thinks Charles or Will said it. Maybe. The universe of senior royals isn't large! But in the past 15 years or so, who has said openly racist things? Charles? Nope. Will? Nope. Harry? Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! Who has been quoted as describing a romantic interest as being "not black?" Harry again. And Charles and Will would know Harry best. It's possible Charles or Will tried to say "have you thought about the possibility..." knowing he is both stupid and a racist.
Another senior royal no one has mentioned in this context is Andrew.
From the London Times:
TV reviews: Oprah with Meghan and Harry
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tv-reviews-oprah-with-meghan-and-harry-good-morning-britain-married-at-first-sight-australia-your-honor-xn7fwjszp
Camilla Long
Thursday March 11 2021, 5.00pm GMT, The Sunday Times
Part 1
Where even to begin with the perma-vanilla spectacle that was Oprah with Meghan and Harry? By the time everyone sat down to it, most people had already decided how they felt. This gave viewing it an unreal, synthetic and bizarre quality, on top of the naturally unreal and bizarre quality of two gilded former members of the royal household actually sitting down for a targeted and spiteful bitch-a-thon about people they supposedly loved.
Time and again you thought: “But how can this even be happening? How much is any of this even real?” It didn’t help that the whole thing took place at the home of “a friend”. Those turdy chairs, that canopy, that heavily styled plastic-looking lawn: they weren’t even Harry or Meghan’s. Even the floaty camerawork made it feel as if we were being manipulated, funnelled in for yet another global shaming session they repeatedly insisted they had no option but to deliver.
We were here, Oprah said, solemnly, and not unlike the “Archbishop of Canterberry”, to hear Meghan “speaking her truth”. But the problem with anyone speaking their truth is that, by implication, it isn’t anyone else’s.
What a maddening interview this was — or should I say, what an interview it really wasn’t. For nearly two hours Oprah sat like a thrilled cashmere blanket, happily soaking up the closely choreographed Niagara of labyrinthine minor HR gripes and complaints about security. It was the least work she had done since she threw cars at an ecstatic audience of white trash in that famous giveaway — and, as an overall experience, not entirely dissimilar. Occasionally, she would interrupt by bellowing “HOLD UP” or “WOAH”, which is interviewing by emoji. Who responds to allegations of racism in the royal family by shrieking: “WHAAT”?
For the first hour she listened sympathetically to how difficult it was for Meghan — or, as she called her, “Meygan” — to be showered with pearls by the Queen. She allowed, for some reason, a long section of woolly whispering about how it was really Kate who’d made Meghan cry before the wedding. We learnt how Archie had finally picked up the word “hydrate” — along, presumably, with “sunscreen” and “executive producer credit” — and how, before attending a performance of Cirque du Soleil when she was pregnant, Meghan had felt suicidal. Well, love, who doesn’t? Apparently the Duchess of York was the only kind royal: the one who helped Meghan to curtsy. No surprises there. The only other royal who does Oprah is of course Fergie.
The duchess radiated skittish uncertainty, gussied up in what looked like Debenhams “special occasions” lingerie, six-inch killer heels poking out underneath in case people forgot what we were dealing with. Fact was blurred into fiction and back into fact again in a masterful volley of Hollywood close-ups and feints. What was the difference between this interview, I began to wonder, and, say, their Windsor wedding, an orgy of similarly confected emotions that we paid £32 million for, but which, it turned out, they didn’t even believe was real because they’d already had a nonbinding secret ceremony, apparently to spite us?
It felt strange that so much fear, dread and seething national anger could be deposited in this little Disney “waitress, actress, princess, duchess”. She told us how she felt like Ariel the mermaid — she’d lost her voice, but now she had found it. And who was Ursula the sea witch — the raging, overbearing villain who stole her voice and shut her away in a life she could only google? Not the royal family, it turned out — but Prince Harry. It is difficult to describe the menace the overbearing, sweaty prince exuded when he muscled on at half-time, in the same grey telesales suit he seems to wear for everything. She turned quiet and mewing as he poured molten fury over his family, his finances, the press.
Any other interviewer would have spotted this volcanic change of energy and happily lit the touch paper, but not Oprah. For some reason she was happy simply listening to Meghan telling her: “I went to Human Resources.” She never once lobbed in the obvious question: “But what was WRONG with your wonderful lives?” Instead we were treated to a torrent of granular disappointments from a spoilt prince — being stripped of his government security and having his money “cut off”, rage over having to live in a borrowed billionaire’s bolt hole, Archie’s title. For a pair keen on equality, they sure seemed obsessed with status and hierarchies.
It was as gripping as it was empty.
Jen, yes, I read that he’ll
carry on with his other projects
for ITV, subcontracted or
self employed?
Would free him to pursue
the Right venture 😉
Oh, so he's not going back to his morning show though?
JennS, thanks for Camilla,
Debenhams “special occasions” lingerie, &
Disney “waitress, actress, princess, duchess”
Hahaha, love it 🥰
Blightied
All this commotion
T’other side of the ocean
Is all but a storm in a Teapot
Each to their own
But the shit shouldn’t be thrown
By those that are missing the plot
I've got the interview on in the background here hoping for some kind of admittance and correction of falsehoods of which there have been none.
They are currently discussing her depression.
I've been wanting to say how much I agree with you that Markle's voice regarding her struggles with depression and suicide ideation do not ring true. Her words are NOT authentic. Any psychiatric professionals and anyone who suffers from depression themselves should instantly recognize her presentation of her struggles as false.
@MagathaMistie,
😍 I love your new avatar, JennS! I forgot to mention earlier. But it is cheering me up during this long Harkles night in the world.
So, Piers:
I heard there is a petition to reinstate Pier, but he says never—-though I am sure ratings will plummet without him and they will try to woo him back. I think he had just a year on his contract left so maybe this is cleverly lucky timing. But I can also see him joining Dan Wootton over at the new GBN...I cant remember who it was but one thing boss Tweeted to offer Piers a job minutes after he quit.
Piers’s book Wake Up raced back up the charts from #1800 to top 100, so that is a sign, if anyone isn’t afraid to ignore The 41,000 people or bots or doubles who complained, and pay attention to others who are fans. But we are in an upside down universe at the moment.
@Magatha,
Megs racing with ARod in her new line of Marklefooted sports gear....,,yah!
I thought about Andrew too but Megalo said revealing their name “would be too damaging for them”. That ship has sailed as far as Andrew is concerned...
If PC or Will said anything about how would their children look like, it was most probably a joke or as you said clarifying to halfwit that his children would be mixed race. If William was joking around with his brother (no more ginger etc) then hapless is hopelessly stupid and Megalo’s muppet. However, I think it was Camilla who was joking around. Hapless has a very unhealthy obsession with his mother. Who was D’s sworn enemy? In her infamous panorama interview, D said “there were 3 of us in the marriage so it was a bit crowded”. Hapless thinks he is out there avenging mommy dearest. Ruining Camilla’s reputation would be Diana’s revenge. Camilla has come a long way and has become quite popular. It must have been scathing for mommy’s boy. His new mommy found a way to twist Camilla’s words and finally get some justice for his martyr mother.
@JennS,
Thank you for the Camilla Long piece! I am laughing and applauding, She is a Harkle virtuoso!
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