Fresh post to continue discussing the Sussexes...
Recently there was (yet another) post somewhere out in the world about how they will soon divorce. And my first thought was: Haven't I heard this before? which moved quickly to: how many times have I heard this (through the years)? There were a number of questions raised which ... I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. One of the points which has been raised is that KC would somehow be shelling out beaucoup money to get her to go "away". That he has all this money stashed away and can pull it out at a moment's notice. But does he? He inherited a lot of "stuff" from his mother but ... isn't it a lot of tangible stuff like properties? and with that staff to maintain it and insurance. Inside said properties is art, antique furniture and other "old stuff" which may be valuable" but ... that kind of thing is subject to the whims and bank accounts of the rarified people who may be interested in it (which is not most of us in terms of bei
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A few things- Meghan is looking insane, now. She’s losing all credibility. Probably spurned by Walby’s ‘hyperbolic asserter’ comments (residual anger) and furthered by the public humiliation of Michelle Obama calling out the need for family (who meghan has ghosted, so now she needs to be a victim).
Gayle likes ratings, but this story is dead.
No one believes ‘press’ made her suicidal and far less that it’s her relatives’ responsibility.
Claiming she has texts of her demands makes her look vigilant, and of course, insane.
We know the Palace recorded these calls.
They want the Palace to ghost them and further be victims.
Anyway, doesn’t look like it’s going well for this self absorbed lunatic.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harrys-calls-with-charles-and-william-not-productive-psj0zlbft
Prince Harry’s calls with Charles and William ‘not productive’
Greg Wilford
Tuesday March 16 2021, 2.15pm GMT, The Times
The Duke of Sussex has had “unproductive” talks with his brother and the Prince of Wales since his interview with Oprah Winfrey, according to a mutual friend of the duchess and the talk show host.
🤮Gayle King, an anchor for CBS News, said that she was told about the conversations when she called the couple to ask how they were after the interview.
“Harry has talked to his brother and he has talked to his father too,” King, 66, told CBS This Morning on Tuesday.
“The word I was given was that those conversations were not productive. But they are glad that they have at least started a conversation.”
During the Oprah interview, Harry, 36, described his relationship with William, 38, as “space, at the moment” and said he felt “really let down” by the Prince of Wales.
He also claimed that Charles, 72, had “cut him off” financially and had “stopped taking my calls” while he was in Canada.
The rift between the royal family and the Sussexes was laid bare when Meghan, 39, made an allegation of racism against an unnamed royal — said not to be the Queen or Prince Philip — and said that she had felt suicidal during her pregnancy.
Buckingham Palace responded by saying that the “serious allegations” would be addressed privately, adding “recollections may vary”.
King suggested that the Sussexes were upset with the palace because they believe “false stories ... that are very disparaging against Meghan”.
“No one in the royal family has talked to Meghan yet, at this particular time,” Gayle said.
“And I think it’s frustrating for them to see that it’s a racial conversation about the royal family when all they wanted all along was for the royals to intervene and tell the press to stop with the unfair, inaccurate, false stories that definitely have a racial slant.
“And until you can acknowledge that, I think it’s going to be hard to move forward.”
Her comments came after Michelle Obama, 57, expressed sympathy with the duchess, saying she had not been surprised to hear her raise the issue of race.
The former US first lady told NBC: “Race isn’t a new construct in this world for people of colour, and so it wasn’t a complete surprise to hear her feelings and to have them articulated.”
I'm enjoying seeing this backfire on O & G.
@Miggy - thanks for link. Could those 2 be more stupid than to again leak private family discussion info?
Gayle - She said: "Well, I did actually call them to see how they are feeling, it's true, Harry has talked to his brother and his father, too.
"The word I was given was, those conversations were not productive. But they are glad they at least started a conversation.
In their logo, just turn that W upside down, and you have MA, Marcus Anderson. Am I reaching too far?
OR is it supposed to be Archie Wales? Why put two letters in the logo when Archewell is one word? A stylized "A" would be more correct.
Upthread you mentioned that Meghan wanted something 'IPSO'--did you mean the Latin there or is that text shorthand? I couldn't find another definition besides ipso facto, but that's how Meg rolls--something is true (her truth, which is the best and most legitimate kind) because she has asserted it was so. So if the DuckArse of Suxxit announced that all cows are green, end of discussion, we cannot dispute the veracity of this. Like the Lord God Almighty, Markle speaks her own version of reality into being.
Speaking of words, this was an amusing article:
https://www.scotsman.com/regions/these-18-scottish-words-have-just-been-added-2019-oxford-dictionary-549384
The Scots word BAWBAG has officially joined the Oxford English Dictionary. It means scrotum. I think this is a bang-on description of Hazmat the Stale Former Prince Who Wants to live in Bel Air. Or, as I have heard it shortened as an insult, 'scrote' as in "F**kin Haz, what a scrote!' This is not a term of endearment.
Lol.
-Prince Harry spoke to brother William and father Charles over the weekend, Gayle King reveals on CBS
-But presenter, who attended Meghan's baby shower in 2019, claims conversations were 'not productive'
-She says Sussexes want 'royals to intervene' over 'false stories' in British Press which have 'a racial slant'
-Ms King gives no examples of stories - and it comes after Mail complains to CBS for doctoring headlines
🤮What did Gayle King say on CBS This Morning?
🤮'Well I'm not trying to break news, but I did actually call them to see how they were feeling, and it's true, Harry has talked to his brother and he has talked to his father too. The word I was given was that those conversations were not productive. But they are glad that they have at least started a conversation.
🤮'And I think what is still upsetting to them is the palace keep saying they want to work it out privately, but yet, they believe these false stories are coming out that are very disparaging against Meghan, still.
🤮'No one in the Royal Family has talked to Meghan yet, at this particular time. And I think it's frustrating for them to see that it's a racial conversation about the Royal Family when all they wanted all along was for the royals to intervene and tell the Press to stop with the unfair, inaccurate, false stories that definitely have a racial slant.
🤮'And until you can acknowledge that, I think it's going to be hard to move forward. But they both want to move forward with this and they both want healing in this family. At the end of the day, that is Harry's family.'
🤮'The bullying thing was raised in 2018 and now there's an ongoing investigation about bullying from Meghan Markle, when anyone who has worked with her will tell you exactly who she is.
🤮'You know, she's really a very sweet, caring person. And as I say, Meghan has documents to back up everything that she said on Oprah's interview. Everything.'
🤮'The family has to acknowledge that there are issues. Right now, no one has acknowledged, you know, Houston we have a problem here. That's really all they want. They want a conversation, they both want a conversation.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9367669/Prince-William-Prince-Harry-speak-time-Oprah-interview.html
I am astonished and appalled at both Gayle and Oprah's active role in this whole narrative.
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How crazy. *They're* the ones who brought up that the BRF was racist.
And now they're crying because all the attention is on that instead of them?
It is comical -
the Harkles - "we do not want any press that is negative and we want the Palace/ our family to stop the press from reporting the negative. "I have reciepts"."
Do they hear themselves?
and..."I am a nice person - everyone who knows me knows this" versus the bullying claims being investigated by a neutral third party.
"All we want is a conversation with our family who happens to make racial slurs."
Seriously - they honestly have no idea of what they have done his brother, his father, his family....
Meghan & Harry's mental health, The Queen's role, ideal race relations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41opFWkF1g
A) the RF is part of UK government. That means H$M were government employees while they repsented the RF.
B) M$ possibly H kept copies confidential emails during their time as government employees. Most governments frown on that.
C) M $H were in contact with a Russian tech billionaire during their time with the RF. They stayed in his house for several months prior to announcing their departure from the RF.
D) they left Canada and purchased a house from a connected Russian oligarch known for fraud and money laundering.
Did the Russian tech plant a virus in the RF servers? Did M$H download as many confidential files as possible before leaving the RF? Are M$H selling those files for payment/housing etc? While the Sussexs and Cambridge households shared an office, what files did they have access to? Does William recieve confidential government updates like Charles and the Queen? Have the RF had their servers inspected for hacking? Is the Parliament even concerned about what other classified data is in the hands of Dimwit and Dummy?
Re the court case:
It is obvious now that the Sussexs lied about deleting emails/texts etc after 30 days. MOS filed an appeal. Wouldn't this effect the appeal outcome? Lying to a court is a punishable offense. Defying a court order is a punishable offense. How long will the UK government allow this masquerade to continue before arresting the Sussexs. Unfortunately, H is an accomplice whether he knew it or not. Threatening national security and playing dumb later will not save him.
The latest HG Tudor does a good job of explaining why the Narcissist lies so often so easily--she doesn't realize she's doing it: less than royal narc part 22
@Ralph L: H.G. Tudor on narcsite.com does a very good job dissecting Meghan’s narcissistic personality disorder and how it works in the dysfunctional relationship with her victim Harry. He also does a pretty good job analyzing Harry to explain why he was a prime candidate to be ensnared by a woman like Meghan.
I don’t agree with all of his thoughts about Meghan and Harry (for example, I think she is worse than just a mid-range narcissist. I also think that she is very aware of what she is doing. She targeted Harry, which is common for narcs, and spent two years stalking her way into Harry’s life via networking through her Canadian contacts who also had contacts with people in the UK, which eventually provided a path to Harry’s social circle and the intro to Harry. That behavior is no accident and the narcissist is not unaware of it on some level.
But beyond that specific disagreement I have with Tudor, he does an excellent job pointing out and explaining her behaviors, manipulations and need for control to people who may not recognize Meghan for what she is and the motivations behind her actions.
For anyone who is interested, in addition to reading Ralph’s recommendation to read A Less Than Royal Narcissist part 22, I suggest you start at the beginning of this series from just before the May 2018 wedding when Tudor titled this series A Very Royal Narcissist, which changed title slightly after the 2020 Megxit. If your time is limited, listen to parts 16 through 22, which have all been published since the Opah interview.
Tudor provides several possible outcomes for the Harkles and the likelihood of each outcome. I agree with Tudor that it is not likely Harry will wake up and extract himself from this marriage.
This marriage could limp along for decades, if not a lifetime. The factors that I think could hasten a breakup are total loss of the HRH and their titles and, if things get bad enough, Harry being asked or perhaps ordered (if it is possible), to renounce his birthright title of Prince. Meghan would quickly exit.
To me, the other possible scenario is deep financial problems that they are not able to dig themselves out of. It has been reported that both of Meghan’s parents have each declared bankruptcy, and that, combined with Meghan’s need to cultivate the facade of being financially successful via the optics of living a lavish lifestyle may end this dumpster fire.
Ido not think she will dump Harry for another wealthier man. I think as a non-citizen of the UK, she would not be allowed to keep any sort of title as British subjects Diana and Sarah Ferguson were allowed to do.
I think Meghan’s identity is so deeply bound to being a duchess that it will have to be pried from her hands. I can’t conceive of a scenario where she would voluntarily relinquish it for another man, even an uber wealthy one.
I especially don't like talk shows or morning shows and their hosts and their elevation to stardom based on little or no talent.
Another case in point (aside from GK) would be Jenna Bush. That woman wouldn’t have a job on TV if it weren’t for her last name.
Sanctioning Gayle to continue her dirty work is just another way to bully both the aides and the royal family from afar. I don't understand why Gayle does not see this, nor do I understand why Gayle thinks any of this is her business. This latest from King seems to go beyond a normal news story/reporting of the news and appears to be more like Gayle is actively engaging in bullying the monarchy herself.
If I were on the palace bullying investigation team I would carefully keep track of every Markle-sourced article and media piece that comes out about this probe. It could possibly be used as more evidence against her.
😡😡😡
Which is why they then focused on this with Harry, to back up Meghan’s claim because it was great TV for Oprah.
Meghan wants good press and no one cares. Now she is a focus of ‘race baiting’ and not her intended interview purpose ‘mental illness caused by lack of familial support’- which people have pointed out now, -Where was your husband?! And then it deflects back to ‘the Royal family wouldn’t tell the press to stop.’ Her story is lacking purpose and cohesiveness and she’s lost control of the narrative.
She wanted to be the victim of mental illness cause by press which almost resulted in her death (ala Diana) and garner sympathetic press, and instead due to her interview petulance she is now a poster girl for racism in the Royal family. She always screws it up.
“'No one in the Royal Family has talked to Meghan yet, at this particular time. And I think it's frustrating for them to see that it's a racial conversation about the Royal Family when all they wanted all along was for the royals to intervene and tell the Press to stop with the unfair, inaccurate, false stories that definitely have a racial slant.”
?!?!?!?!
1. Why TF should anyone in the royal family talk to Meghan? What has she done to earn and keep their trust? And who is she to them? They apparently weren’t even talking to Harry until yesterday lol
2. “it’s frustrating to THEM that it’s a racial conversation”?! Who made it all about race in the first place?! The royals have been terrified since Day 1 of the racism accusations from her. She’s finally delivered so I hope the royals’ gloves come off at least now.
3. My rant begins. When did the world become such a celebration of truth-free victimhood?? Why is everyone jumping on this Meghan Vs BRF bandwagon in blind support of her? I’ve never seen anything like this. This public slanging is going on uncontested, with absolutely no one in the US actually questioning anything. What is so special about Meghan? Is she actually becoming the new Diana? The brave one who takes on the might of the British royal family? (Right now, I’m like “What might?”). Or is it that she’s in the right place at the right time - racism, victimhood, and an incensed population looking for something to get angry about? The fact that this travesty is being allowed to go on is evidence that it benefits the people with the power to stop it. (Should I put my tin hat on?) Is the American political situation benefitting from this distraction? Who is benefitting from this?? I think it’s not as simple as “Oprah & co.” The entire press, celebrity and political system is condoning this currently.
Why??
In a way, I suppose the Harkles being in the news everyday is a good sign for the British people: if M&H continue to whine in public, it means the BRF haven’t paid them to shut up. It means the BRF is holding their ground.
How crazy. *They're* the ones who brought up that the BRF was racist.
And now they're crying because all the attention is on that instead of them?
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They're still whining that the royal family did not do anything about the 'racist news articles'! Yet there were no racist articles other than the 'straight out of Compton' one.
AND while discussing the UK press on the show, Oprah displayed a group of altered/out of context/not from the UK articles!
Why aren't there any sanctions for this?
The DM/MOS already contacted them about the false article images. They refused to admit anything nor make any changes.
And despite all the UK press pointing out the false and misleading statements Markle made throughout the interview, CBS ran it again last Friday without any changes whatsoever.
I agree she wanted the mental illness caused by the RF/UK out there but I think she also wanted the racism out there as well. Racism is the excuse she has for why there were so many negative articles about her.
She can't accept that there were many negative stories written because she is an awful person and acts like a horrible bi*ch and vicious bully, or that she spent unbelievable amounts of money, refused to follow royal protocol, behaved strangely (like the obsessive coat flicking to reveal the bump for photographers) and presented an obvious phony persona!
No, it all just has to be racism in her mind - yet she presents herself as white and basically looks white. I have always had the feeling Ms Markle is actually racist herself for a number of reasons. She only allowed one family member at her wedding in order to set the narrative that she is mixed race but no other black family was allowed despite there being no problems with their behavior in the media.
“...all they wanted all along was for the royals to intervene and tell the Press to stop with the unfair, inaccurate, false stories that definitely have a racial slant.“
Why should the BRF intervene with the press? And how can they - the press is free in a democracy. Has Meg forgotten that she can sue the press if their stories are “unfair, inaccurate, false”? And especially if they’re racist. Sue the papers, Maggie! Come on! Put your money where your mouth is and fight for the truth!
I really want to be a fly on the wall during her PR strategy meetings with SS. It would answer so many questions...
But today takes the cake. This is appalling, disgusting, unbelievable. She cut off her father for his relations with the press and her she is doing the exact same thing with Gayle King. GK's pseudo-serious face while pretending to reluctantly share the news is disgusting. I never thought there was a single reason to trust or negotiate with the Sussexes in good faith except personal honor; now, personal honor absolutely requires they cut these people off. This is monstrous behavior. As a society we are allowing angry, mentally ill people the power to control other people via emotional bullying and blackmail, and now we have major media figures contributing to this.
If anyone from the RF reads Nutty, please! You do a disservice to the millions of people who have been bullied, blackmailed, and tortured by narcissists when you encourage these two to continue the spectacle. Don't call Harry, don't respond, it's time you set an example and go Grey Rock!
🤮🤮🤮 indeed!
When did the world become such a celebration of truth-free victimhood?? Why is everyone jumping on this Meghan Vs BRF bandwagon in blind support of her? I’ve never seen anything like this. This public slanging is going on uncontested, with absolutely no one in the US actually questioning anything.
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@Nuked Duke
I agree - it is an upside-down world and one I find hugely unsettling. I attribute it to the George Floyd incident and the BLM/cancel culture/woke rhetoric going monstrously viral.
It is beyond disgusting that Markle would ride the wave of cancel culture over Floyd's death as well as BLM to benefit herself when she has never associated much with her black side. A psychopath has found a current highly tense social issue to monetize.
Could it also be possible that one of the reasons for the political system and the press to condone believing Markle's false tales is to use the story as deflection from the George Floyd murder trial? Perhaps they think it would be too much in this current climate to hold a mixed-race person accountable for her behavior? If that is the case then I think we are in deep trouble.
Where are the British monarchy's champions? I thought they were a powerful family and yet so very few have spoken out for them. And they do not even stand up for themselves! It really is such a puzzle.
I do want to point out that it's not just the US that has swallowed the story hook, line, and sinker. Many in the UK believe the Harkles as well! There have been quite a few pro articles written in the UK press. Alex Beresford the weatherman who argued with Piers Morgan on their morning show has totally bought Markle's scam, AND he is now benefitting from it!
(🌟@Nutties and blog readers - I did not bring up George Floyd to start a conversation about what happened to him nor the trial. I only wanted to reference it as it applies to Markle.)
Michelle Obama, 57, expressed sympathy with the duchess, saying she had not been surprised to hear her raise the issue of race.
The former US first lady told NBC: “Race isn’t a new construct in this world for people of colour, and so it wasn’t a complete surprise to hear her feelings and to have them articulated.”
Masterfully done, really, so kudos to Michelle and her team for crafting this.
She gets points for 'expressing sympathy with the Duchess' . . but notice how elegantly she avoids in any way sounding angry or that she *actually agrees that Meg experienced racism*.
1. She acknowledges that race 'isn't a new construct'. She doesn't even call it 'racISM' though. Just that the concept of race has been around and was not newly minted by the American Duchess sometime after 2016.
2. Michelle isn't surprised that Meg a) has raised this issue of RACE b) has feelings c) has articulated those feelings. So--she's glommed onto an issue that a lot of people will identify with as a method of 'getting her voice heard.' Michelle is not surprised in the least that we've heard Meg's voice and feelings. But nowhere in that statement has MO said that the articulated feelings prove a bona fide and systematic experience of racism.
Michelle grew up on the South Side of Chicago and then become one of a rather elite cohort of minority women from that particular background in the Ivy League (Princeton; Harvard Law). Little Flower grew up as the pampered daughter of a Hollywood insider who passed for white her entire life and pretended that her own mother was the household help if any of her school friends happened to see.
I think Michelle has got Flower's number. 'Member how Meg crashed one of of Michelle's author appearances in London and tried to commandeer her for a photo op when she was pressed for time? . . then of course there was the time, which must have come to an enormous surprise to Mrs. Obama that she enjoyed a tete-a-tete lunch of chicken tacos at Frogmore Cottage with Flower and her Burgeoning Bump.
Michelle couldn't *not* say something about 'the' racial kerfluffle dominating current events, allegedly experienced by another black woman . . but it's what she pointedly omitted to say that intrigues me. It was a fine tightrope walking performance.
I suspect that this is as far as the Obamas are willing to go to pay lip service to supporting Flower in her one-woman fight against institutional racism and if Megsie calls to try and get support for her fantasy 2024 political bid, the Obamas are going to be busy and unable to return her calls.
"Acquaintain,
Upthread you mentioned that Meghan wanted something 'IPSO'--did you mean the Latin there or is that text shorthand? I couldn't find another definition besides ipso facto, but that's how Meg rolls--something is true (her truth, which is the best and most legitimate kind) because she has asserted it was so. So if the DuckArse of Suxxit announced that all cows are green, end of discussion, we cannot dispute the veracity of this. Like the Lord God Almighty, Markle speaks her own version of reality into being."
Firstly, that is exactly what Meghan wants. If you dispute her truth then you are a racist and she will sue you or bully you until you give in.
Secondly, IPSO is an acronym for Independent Press Standards Organisation - a regulatory body that monitors press behaviour. 99% of UK media industry is signed up as members.
https://www.ipso.co.uk/what-we-do/#:~:text=The%20Independent%20Press%20Standards%20Organisation,of%20expression%20for%20the%20press.
If one is unhappy about a story, a complaint to them usually adjudicates the matter and they decide if a story met regulatory standards and or whether a story is true or false. If story is judged to be false or unfair, the news outlet is forced to make a very public apology within the paper.
The Royal family tends to use this body to get the press to apologise and or pull stories. Due to their status and privilege, they usually win which always annoys the press.
Since they started dating, Harry and Meghan complained so often to IPSO that it is alleged their combined complaints exceeded the total number of complaints made by the rest of the family put together.
The first known complaint was a companion letter to the infamous 'leave Meghan alone' love shield letter November 2016. In this letter they threatened the UK media with using royal privilege to lend weight to campaign to curb press freedom if the UK media reported on Meghan and the relationship without their consent and or created a tabloid frenzy around the relationship.
More threatening letters followed.
This is the reason we never got any tabloid frenzy about the dating years, and the only stories and pap photos we got were all Meghan PR. Nothing was accidental. Having muzzled the press, all that was left was to create her new image as per this blind item.
https://blindgossip.com/everyone-loves-classy/
A fabulous blog is putting together a long list of how this press campaign was carried out, but here is a summary of it.
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/614853572946984961/can-you-elaborate-on-what-wasis-the-everyone
Thomas Markle was outed because IPSO got it's political teeth that same week which coincided with a threatening letter from Harry specifically about harassing him. It was payback for all the threats in the previous years.
I think Meghan set Thomas up, but she didn't have any control over the timing of outing him in the way it happened. I do believe she always meant to out him. IPSO did it for her and she has been playing victim ever since.
Anyway, to sum, by summer 2019, IPSO was so fed up with blizzard of complaints from the Harkles that they stopped giving them favourable verdicts as warranted by their privilege.
That Sun story about Meghan telling Windsor Estate workers not to speak to her was the final straw for both camps. IPSO ruled in favour of the paper and the unhappy Harkles immediately started their life of complaint through the law courts.
At this point they've complained so often to the courts that they will soon be labelled vexatious litigants.
Dear fellow Nutties,
The simple truth is that there is no logic, or planning, reason or rationale for what MM does.
Trying to find out "why" she does what she does is a futile search for answers, and is the path to madness.
She just has a driving, uncontrollable compulsion to see her name in the papers, no matter what. She craves attention like a drug addict craves heroin.
To her mind, people talking about her is an affirmation that she is important.
The most powerful psychological response to someone like MM is to ignore her. Stop speaking, reading, commenting, caring. That, more than anything, will force reality on her and drive her mad; when the world recognises she is an unimportant, overrated, talentless, nobody.
I have stopped caring. I suggest you do so as well.
“ She can't accept that there were many negative stories written because she is an awful person and acts like a horrible bi*ch and vicious bully, or that she spent unbelievable amounts of money, refused to follow royal protocol, behaved strangely (like the obsessive coat flicking to reveal the bump for photographers) and presented an obvious phony persona!
No, it all just has to be racism in her mind - yet she presents herself as white and basically looks white. I have always had the feeling Ms Markle is actually racist herself for a number of reasons. She only allowed one family member at her wedding in order to set the narrative that she is mixed race but no other black family was allowed despite there being no problems with their behavior in the media.”
She will keep using this sickening argument to defend herself from the bullying accusations. They are all racists. They couldn’t tolerate a strong assertive Black woman as a boss. 🤮 She looks white anyway!
I find it suspicious too that not ONE family member was deemed suitable to be invited to the wedding or the spectacle as she referred to this infamous day! All her ex-boyfriends/ex husband(s) are white.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14359505/meghan-markle-prince-harry-trespasser-high-california-mansion/
Thanks for your detailed response. I did see that definition of IPSO, as it turns out, but I was expecting that it maybe also stood for a snarky text shorthand like "If Pi$$y, Sue Others" or something like that. :)
No doubt, the saga of the Prince and the Showgirl is going to provide fodder for decades to come across a variety of fields, as far as case study material of the ethics and procedures in their particular discipines goe: law, journalism, psychotherapy . . all are going to have reams of textbook material devoted to deconstructing the ramifications of the chaos and mess which the destructive duo has left in their wake.
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I don't know....MO could have said nothing.
As usual many are interpreting her statement as general Markle approval and it has only made things worse. IMO she should have told SS NO.
Charles isn't giving them any money.
William is backing Charles in not giving the Harkles any money.
William and Charles are not going to blast away at the British press in Markle's honor, because there's nothing to fight against.
As for celebrity and gossip blogs, people have the right to their opinions.
Gayle King is proving herself a loose cannon, and a gossip; and, thinks she can take on the Royal Family. I also think this is about ratings. Same with Piers Morgan. He doesn't care about the show he walked off, it's Show Business! And Ratings!
The most powerful psychological response to someone like MM is to ignore her. Stop speaking, reading, commenting, caring. That, more than anything, will force reality on her and drive her mad; when the world recognises she is an unimportant, overrated, talentless, nobody.
I have stopped caring. I suggest you do so as well.
You have sussed our Mugsy in one, and I totally agree with your assessment. And, if Mugsy were a run-of-the-mill Narc I had encountered in my daily life, I would certainly take your advice to completely ignore her. But if we here all took your advice, that would be the end of this community. Meg is, to the sad detriment of us all, now a global cause celebre, on account of who she married, and now that she, with the rather inept collusion f her dim bulb husband, along with millions of her in-laws'/Netflix/Spotify's money & Oprah's media support, is doing everything she may to ignite a race war solely as a means of keeping her talentless name in the papers day after day--I fear that taking your advice is impossible. It is possible with concerted effort to avoid her vengeful Duper's mug online, but it's not so easily to completely avoid the ripple effect she and Hapless are creating worldwide. An ancient monarchy is under siege from a hostile outside force, aided and abetted by one of their own members. HARRY, not Meghan, is really the key to this whole thing. Without him, this toxic phenomenon of Markle-Hydra would not have sprung into her monstrous power. She's always been a petty, bullying toxic self-obsessed tyrant, but until Harry came into the picture, her platform and resources were tiny and kept her monstrous ego in check somewhat.
We are watching an uncultured, ignorant, completely amoral California mall rat psycho try to destroy a 1200--year-old monarchy and the 95-year-old woman who heads it up, and she's doing this all because she didn't get all the best tiaras, houses and seats on demand. If she can't be Queen, by God, she's going to pull the whole castle down brick by brick. Thanks to an uncanny alignment with the Zeitgeist, though, this malignant con artist hustler psychopath has got legions of people actually believing her. The effects of this madness are going to reverberate for years, if not decades into the future . . and that is why I can't look away from the carnage. Even after the inevitable Sussex divorce . .or maybe dissolution after somebody is dead . . this is not going to be over. This saga will have spawned a cottage industry of books, papers, interviews, studies and commentators, in much the way that the Abdication is still being dissected today, or the rise of Hitler. I don't know what else to compare Mugsy to, really . . .except that other time in the 20th century when a crazed madman actually commandeered the worldwide media to his warped cause and positioned himself as the savior of an enlightened race of super beings.
Hilter harnessed the media and popular opinion and silenced his critics, too. This is why I have to keep watching, in sick fascination at this *incredible* story unfold. It should be happening in a science fiction/dystopian fantasy novel, not in real time, in our real lives. But--it is.
Thanks for that very interesting rundown of the IPSO complaints!
Do you have a link to that info...did anonymous houseplant have a list of the IPSO complaints? I'd like to go through it if it exists.
I remember that story about the 'neighbor behavior list' being oddly debated in the media. If I remember correctly it was supposedly disproved. I think someone else was blamed for it (groundskeeper/manager) and the Harkles said they knew nothing about it. Do you know if they did indeed expose the source as the Sussexes? Now that we know more about their MO I'm sure they would be capable of telling staff to issue the list and then blame them for it.
What do you make of Oprah's false/misleading use of the headlines from various British newspapers in her show? I'm hoping ANL brings some sort of legal action against CBS/Oprah.
Lets not forget, Gayle King is a terrible judge if character, she sat next to pervy Charlie Rose for years, absolutely oblivious to his inappropriate for work advances towards his young female interns.
And OW is as poor of a judge of character as GK! How many people did O give platform to on her show that turned out to be slimeballs. O didnt researcH her guests or their claims and just fawned all over them.
Truth is, all 3 of them are using each other for fame, fortune, thristyness, high ratings, and to stay relevant.
Can you imagine if he told PC "I'm tired of this sh*te and I'm outta here. Outta the line of succession and taking my kids with me."
That leaves Drip as the heir apparent.
End of monarchy.
Also can we please refrain from American politics? Not everyone is of the same political beliefs and this blog becomes uncomfortable when one American political party is favored over the other.
Tha k you.
@Hikari. Love the word Bawbag, it's just so expressive. Also the insult Radge, which was always banned in our home, to denote an angry, noisy, out of control, violent man. Believe it can be used as a noun or an adjective, such as the wee radge bast***.
" This is already historic in itself, because
A) a Narc had to accept and admit defeat,
B) allowed the mouthpiece to broadcast it to a global audience.
So rest assured people, it´s BAD.
Really SUPER SUPER BAD behind the scenes.
They (or better said, she and her demands) were met with such a flat out and hard NO that she currently must be feeling as if she´s just hit concrete after falling from a 50 story building."
Gayle sounded ridiculous today cherry-picking what she wants to believe. The BRF is racist and needs to acknowledge it, but M is a wonderful person who would never bully. I thought we had established with Weinstein that just because one woman wasn't harassed (Oprah, apparently), doesn't mean all the other women speaking out about being harassed are liars. Why does CBS want to take their journalistic standards into the gutter for M. It's embarrassing, but probably pays their advertisers.
The Obama's were warmly and enthusiastically received by all members of the BRF, and I think Ms. Obama knows that any comment about Archie's appearance wasn't meant in an ugly way, even if it had racial connotations. She also knows that it's a sensitive area, and I think acknowledges that, even if it was a nasty comment, Nutmeg needs to calm down and move on.
One of my SILs a 5th generation American but 100% ethnically Japanese woman. At the bridal shower, her mother ( a lovely, kind lady) asked my mother (whom I was sitting next to) if she had any more red haired children ( I am red headed) and if she thought there was any chance that her daughter and my brother ( brunette and medium complexion) could possibly end up with red haired kids. She then wondered if it was possible they could have fair skin and blue eyes, without also having freckles.
I wasn't offended, my mama wasn't offended and my brother laughed. It is perfectly natural to talk about what children are going to look like, especially in cases where different races and ethnicities are involved.
Nutmeg is merely using this, if it even happened in the way she is implying, as a weapon and a tool. A weapon against the BRF as a means of getting what she wants, and a tool for American press and business opportunity.
@Fifi LaRue
“PS: Gayle should get the Sniveling Man-Boy on the phone to complain about not getting his allowance reinstated.”
Don’t give her ideas! LOL!
I can’t believe that CBS is allowing her to sit there, day after day, and basically act as the middleman for Harkles and Sparkles extortion attempt. Every single day we hear about how they have “evidence” and “receipts” for what they’ve said. Well, put up or shut up.
If those pics of Prince William leaving KP today are any indication, he’s about to snap. I don’t mean have a breakdown. I mean he’s going to snap and go full bore on those two. If I was him, I’d give Piers Morgan a call and tell him to bring a camera. What better way for PW to shut them down than giving an interview to the person Mugs has tried to cancel?
"@Acquitaine
Thanks for that very interesting rundown of the IPSO complaints!
Do you have a link to that info...did anonymous houseplant have a list of the IPSO complaints? I'd like to go through it if it exists.
I remember that story about the 'neighbor behavior list' being oddly debated in the media. If I remember correctly it was supposedly disproved. I think someone else was blamed for it (groundskeeper/manager) and the Harkles said they knew nothing about it. Do you know if they did indeed expose the source as the Sussexes? Now that we know more about their MO I'm sure they would be capable of telling staff to issue the list and then blame them for it.
What do you make of Oprah's false/misleading use of the headlines from various British newspapers in her show? I'm hoping ANL brings some sort of legal action against CBS/Oprah."
The IPSO website has a page that lists all the complaints they receive and the results. It's listed by date and requires searching.
https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/
They tend to be more discreet with royal complaints, but by the end they didn't care about the Harkles and published them publicly on the list.
The companion legal threat to 'leave Meghan alone' sent to them in November 2016 was partially leaked to this website:
https://popbitch.com/2016/12/part-iii-battle-royal/
Read the "Battle Royale part iii" article.
Anonymous Houseplant is working on an item by item timeline of how the 'Everybody is classy' PR campaign was ran. She's posted parts of it with a call out for her readers to send her any PR articles / news items that they think she's missed.
She's very thorough in her PR analysis when she puts together entirety of campaigns.
I agree with her in awe at how effective the "Everybody loves Classy" PR was.
The story about Meghan asking her neighbours not to talk came from the estate workers themselves. The order was sent to one of their community meetings. No need for special sources. It was very publicly done. IPSO judged the story to be true despite the Sun pre-emptively offering to delete the story from their archives on the assumption that royal privilege would trump the truth of the story. Harry and Meghan denied the story ever happened and when they lost they ignored the entire thing as if the story and the ruling didn't exist.
I'm hoping ANL sues CBS / Oprah / Harry and Meghan. And i hope they win and get the type of award the Covington Kid got out of CNN - rumoured to be $250M. The Covington Kid is rumoured to have ended up with close to $1B in libel damages ftom all the networks. Good job for an boy who only turned 18yrs old last year.
RE: That article about the man arrested at Mudslide Manor. Well, that's what The Harkles get for leaving the BRF to go out on their own, "buying" the biggest house that they could find, and then continue to discuss publicly how much money they're making.
MM wanted to become the most famous person in the world, with at least three articles a week all about her. Well, she got what she asked for, and now she doesn't like it? Too bad for her. With fame comes the crazed fans. All famous people get, and pay for, their own security for just that reason, so The Harkles are welcome to do that, too.
They could have had all the protection that they needed if they'd stayed in the UK. I have no sympathy for The Harkles whatsoever.
If they need protection, then they can pay for it. They are making multi-millions, right? :/
I remember that story about the 'neighbor behavior list' being oddly debated in the media. If I remember correctly it was supposedly disproved. I think someone else was blamed for it (groundskeeper/manager) and the Harkles said they knew nothing about it. Do you know if they did indeed expose the source as the Sussexes? Now that we know more about their MO I'm sure they would be capable of telling staff to issue the list and then blame them for it.
If I'm recalling it correctly, they also pulled the same stunt when they were in Canada (or tried to at least). There was something about a list of rules for neighbours when they were in Canada but I don't remember all of the details now.
The thought of Gayle King as a serious journalist has me ROTFL.
She has zero personality and is boring AF on air. No presence, no breaking news, no wit, creativity, or interesting stories--nothing.
She is in her present position IMO by virtue of her "friendship and association" with OW.
CBS Morning News is consistently behind both Good Morning America and the Today Show in the ratings. They got a bump from the Harkles interview.
I used to tune into CBS Morning News when the anchors were at least interesting and had journalistic chops.
Totally agree about GK and Charlie Rose. I do not like the man's behavior but he was a great interviewer, good journalist, and an interesting personality. I used to enjoy his show on PBS (Public Broadcasting). He would have been a huge improvement as an interviewer of the Harkles. That would have been an interview to watch. GK and OW are just milking the rapidly drying up teats of the Harkles.