Fresh post to continue discussing the Sussexes...
Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event? Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th? Oscar's - March 10th? In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US. The IRS just never goes away. Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on). There's always another one. Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California. That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales. Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere. But. The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.
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But how long will they keep living like this? They haven't even lived in this place for up to one year. People are already catching up on this money making scheme and before long, it would make its way to mainstream media.
On the interview rerun, I just read that it had a little above 3m views but I don't know if it's a good thing or a had thing for the rerun to have only 3m views. What do you nutties think,?
For the Americans, is the US media still going on about how hard done Meghan was by the RF? I watched Brian Stetlar and Don Lemon yesterday and they are still going on about how racist the RF and the British press is. None of the CNN anchors have even bothered to report on her lies or the distortion of headlines by CBS. Of course, it doesnt suit their agenda. But I found the recent interview where Obama said the queen was one of his favorite leaders very telling. It was his way of supporting the RF considering how he and Michele have refused to comment on the interview.
Meghan and Harry are definitely waiting for offers to start rolling in for them and some people think that she may make a successful career out of speaking on racism and mental health. I don't believe she will be successful because she hasn't been successful at anything. What are your thoughts nutties?
Then yesterday, we read about the intruders. That fits their pattern. It's either they have already moved or they are about to move
The article I am referring to: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9361147/African-American-married-aristocracy-work.html
I read the article earlier about the other African American lady - here is the difference - Rose Hulse, which was very well written and showed this lady as a very intelligent woman. The only parallels are 'African American', there stops the resemblance.
‘Not only did I feel welcomed when I came here, but I felt respected by my English friends,’ says Rose.
‘There was the odd remark or snobbery shown towards me, but I chose to take the higher ground and give these people an opportunity to truly get to know me so they could shape their opinions on fact, versus preconceived notions.
My emphasis but this is a crucial difference between Rose Hulse and the harlot.
‘I remember going to Scotland for a weekend and every one of his friends asked me very direct questions to try to get to know me.
‘I wasn’t offended and took it as an opportunity to get to know them, too. I had to adjust to their way of life and their dry English humour, but I have come to appreciate it and embrace differences.’
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The article could have been titled 'Spot the ten differences' (or more). It is well worth a read and shows a much more balanced view that H&M 'whingeathon'.
'Meghan and Harry are definitely waiting for offers to start rolling in for them and some people think that she may make a successful career out of speaking on racism and mental health. I don't believe she will be successful because she hasn't been successful at anything. What are your thoughts nutties?'
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I'm not sure the offers will be 'rolling in', they might just trickle in but I can't gauge the American reaction. I would have thought the Harkles were damaged goods. A week after the interview, we haven't heard of any offers going their way (IIRC). On the other hand, just after Piers Morgan left GMB, he had a few offers and for a lot of money. What have the hapless duo got?
In any case, I think there is only so much mileage you can get out of speaking about racism and mental health, particularly if this is done in a complaining and accusatory manner. People will soon get bored (they are).
A little light ferreting also threw up this article from the Mail back in October, with the lead photo taken back in 2013. This woman has been swimming in the most stagnant of ponds for a very long time it seems.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8812619/Meghan-Markle-pictured-McMafia-millionaire-forfeiting-10m-money-laundering.html#reader-comments
Some of the comments are very interesting indeed, referencing the owner of the Canadian mansion and his associations, (which I would not want to delve any deeper into if true) as well as the Montecito monstrosity.
Travalyst, Dorias' care home, the mansions et al - Why,why, why after all that British intelligence simply must have have known about her and the filth that she associated with, was she allowed within a thousand miles of Harry and the British Royal Family?
I am off to rinse my eyes and will reflect on Phillipians 4:8 for the rest of the day!
'Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.'
Are we all watching the same show? Everything these 2 touch turns into shite. Everything SHE touches turns into shite. Including a much beloved Prince. Their dream of bottomless Hollywood money will not come true, and nobody will ever put a ring on that toxic venomous bs ever again. Because nobody is as dumb as Harry. He takes stupid to another level.
'Travalyst, Dorias' care home, the mansions et al - Why,why, why after all that British intelligence simply must have have known about her and the filth that she associated with, was she allowed within a thousand miles of Harry and the British Royal Family?'
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Travalyst, Dorias' care home etc. all came after the harlot had wormed her way into the BRF and had a ring on her finger. I agree, though, that MI5 must have known about her but then imagine the Queen refusing permission to marry? In hindsight, it would have been better to weather that storm and let her go - had the BRF known at the time.
Meghan won’t reveal who the conversation was with. It is Oprah who asks Meghan to speculate that the subject was raised because “they” (unspecified) “were concerned that if he were too brown that that would be a problem”. The reply was “I wasn’t able to follow up with why, but I think that feels like a pretty safe [assumption] . . .”
Bolded part mine.
What does she mean she wasn't able to follow up with why?
Couldn't she just ask him?
They're married, right?
She couldn't just say, yo, what was that all about?
Imo, that was a bizarre thing to say. Again, words that make absolutely no sense.
That she's not called on.
https://youtu.be/Uf0iJmey_T4
The parodian takes up the idea that Meghan did the unthinkable: she turned a prince into a frog. :)
Yes! It’s actually really nice to read about her, because it shows what M’s situation could have been like, had things worked out. And I hope this lady catches the attention of the sugars who are all crying racism. This could have been the royal story, not the horror that we’re all living through now. I think Rose Hulse is an amazing role model even otherwise (not just in the context of M and the RF). What a lovely quote for the times: “ When life gives you a platform, we should always use it to unite.” Wise words for everyone with a platform (or, “voice”, in Meg-speak).
Hahaha this video is hilarious. “Maybe they should have Googled ME!”
Rev Mark Edwards, who was flooded with private wedding requests during the Covid lockdown, contacted the Archbishop's office after the claims to "get some clarity" on their policy.
But the vicar at St Matthew’s Church, in Dinnington, and St Cuthbert’s Church, in Brunswick, said he was told by a Lambeth Palace staff member that, “Justin does not do private weddings. Meghan is an American, she does not understand.”
Rev Edwards said the person he spoke to then told him: “Justin had a private conversation with the couple in the garden about the wedding, but I can assure you, no wedding took place until the televised national event.”
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/vicar-says-archbishop-clarified-meghans-20155806
Thank you, this is priceless! This shows a great sense of humour, I hope Megsy watches it...
Meghan Markle's half-sister renews her attacks on the Duchess by claiming she and Prince Harry are heading for divorce and urges them to go on an 'apology tour'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9362881/Harry-Meghan-Meghans-half-sister-claims-Duke-heading-divorce.html
Lest we forget
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Ladygreyhound is back. She hasn't been around for a long time. I appreciated her snark. It is where I got this picture
I had to chuckle at the comparison picture, I'd seen it before but hadn't spotted until now how unimpressed Mary looks. Meghan's trying to look pious, Mary's giving her eyes a really good roll and wishing Meghan would just go away lol I can almost hear Mary's sigh from here.
I saw that article about Welby and the garden wedding story, but in the Sun online. I thought it was interesting that the vicar felt that Welby needed to make a public statement to clear up any confusion, but Welby refused, with his office saying he doesn’t comment on such matters.
Welby is a massive Meghan suck-up, in my opinion, and so I suppose he is still trying to cover for her string of lies, including the alleged christening when he was speaking a couple of hundred miles away....?
Trustworthiness is out the window. Bloop! Gone.
Meghan won’t reveal who the conversation was with. It is Oprah who asks Meghan to speculate that the subject was raised because “they” (unspecified) “were concerned that if he were too brown that that would be a problem”. The reply was “I wasn’t able to follow up with why, but I think that feels like a pretty safe [assumption] . . .”
Bolded part mine.
What does she mean she wasn't able to follow up with why?
Couldn't she just ask him?
They're married, right?
She couldn't just say, yo, what was that all about?
Imo, that was a bizarre thing to say. Again, words that make absolutely no sense.
That she's not called on. Mel's comment
This is really a good point.
No matter when this supposedly happened in the timeline, it still doesn't make sense no matter which way you spin it.
You have the other family members on the balcony already so would another non-white isn't the first and would reflect the diversity in the CW. A positive.
Your point about why couldn't she follow up? She certainly wasn't tied up in the Tower without her phone and able to call/text/email this person?
She may have been able to see this person again in person.
But what if JH was the one who said something?
@TheGrangle,
Considering all we now know, I do think they married in Africa on their “third date” and it was presented to the Queen in a snotty “I married who I wanted, so there!” conversation. These two are sly and she is pushy, so.... no matter what Yard found, i think it was a done deal
Anyway, though, I think the racism threats came over Harry wanting them to have a big splashy $$$$ Tv wedding anyway, propelled by MM.
I posted on this at the time when he was investigated and found guilty- easily forgotten - recall it may have been an `unexplained wealth' order that was imposed.
If anyone here buys an expensive property which does not match the one they sold, questions are asked. A friend had difficulty with a house purchase a few years ago - had to go back 25+ years through his records to demonstrate his cash was 100% legit - we're not required as private individuals to keep financial records that long.
@WBBM, "defense and security correspondent"? Is reporting on MM Dominic Nicholls' normal beat?
I hadn't picked up on this -but I'll try to investigate.
Perhaps DT has decided this has moved beyond a `celebrity/Royal' issue into something more serious, as we suspect.
I smelled money laundering a while back but if this business buggers up our relationship with the US, it is a serious Defence & Security issue, also if she's hobnobbing with undesirables, who `aren't Friends of Britain' but foreign criminals and near criminals.
I'm sure originally they figured it was just a booty call. Another fling for Harry. And kept hoping H would come to his senses as it appeared to get serious. I think H is one of those that if you tell him No, you cannot do that - he gets ticked and does it just to spite you.
Over the weekend I saw additional pictures from the infamous Nazi costume party which I had never seen before. I had only ever seen Harry's costume. There are photos of him dancing at that party, drink in hand, in the company of several Klansman and a blackface Mr. Bojangles. Yep. So this was not just his insensitive costume choice alone--this was an entirely 'Isn't Racism a Gas?!" theme evening, attended by a bunch of his like-minded friends.
In that light, it is entirely possible that Harry made some remark in that vein. Did he then worry that whoever he said it to would report back to Meg, so he had to head that off at the pass and put his words into somebody else's mouth as soon as he got home? So--if that's the way it went down, imagine being Charles or William or whoever reading this allegation, when you KNOW who said it? Methinks it's time that the pearl cufflinks came off and the sleeves were rolled up over there in Clarence House/KP. William has already adamantly stated his family aren't racists. Imagine the 'BOOM!' that would be heard in Montecito if the Royal persons who were present when that remark was made . .if Harry said it, then let that out! Gloves off. KP and Clarence House, with the blessing of BP release a joint statement confirming that the incendiary statement in fact came from the Duke of Sussex. That would take a good deal of air out of their hot air balloon.
Considering all we now know, I do think they married in Africa on their “third date” and it was presented to the Queen in a snotty “I married who I wanted, so there!” conversation. These two are sly and she is pushy, so.... no matter what Yard found, i think it was a done deal
Anyway, though, I think the racism threats came over Harry wanting them to have a big splashy $$$$ Tv wedding anyway, propelled by MM.
I really think this is what happened. So we can ask ourselves, did impetuous Harry, who hadn't been able to make a relationship stick with girls he dated for *years* (7? years in the case of Chelsy) really fall so head over heels that he did this reckless 'romantic' thing and marry a woman he'd known (officially) for a few days at most? Or--did their association start a whole lot earlier than 2016 as we've been told? AND--was any such 'marriage of twue wuve' actually a calculated business merger from the very beginning?
If, for instance, Harry was being blackmailed and pressured hard to marry this woman on the basis of some incriminating dirt the Soho House cohort had on him, or, slightly more benignly, Haz is actually gay and had become resigned, in his 30s that he was never going to make a love match with a woman, nor did he want to . . yet knowing that in order to get 'the promotion' in the Firm of a ducal title and status as full-time working royal, he was required to take a wife, he may have agreed to this secret marriage as a way to get all the goodies while at the same time screwing over his entire family with this clandestine mutual 'secret' . . I could see it.
'Forever' in Meg's world is 'until my next luxury sponging accommodation/mark comes along.'
You bring up such a good point.
We are asked to believe this “strong, independent, whip smart woman and feminist” — who took a huge soap company to task as a mere child and curled her lip snottily in a Nickelodeon tv interview about it; and who spoke to the UN and labeled herself a humanitarian — was afraid to ask her weak, soft husband about her “assumption” about what was said?
The same self-proclaimed suicidal woman who was breathlessly inking merching deal after deal, secretly editing Vogue deal, creating fashion lines, and jetting to NY, Canada (right after the wedding), and uncle Elton’s and Misha’s Italian wedding all “without a passport or drivers license”... who snuck out of the palace repeatedly to do the Vogue editorship, including the larky hat photo shoot with Enninful?
This woman can’t ask a question? If not in the moment, the next day? Sometime that week? That month?
She was just trying to cast a wide net of aspersions that smeared as many royals as possible with her usual tactic of slippery statements and “someone said” antics, in my opinion from what we have heard. She’s trash, so I expect little else from her.
LOL at Samantha telling them to go on an apology tour.
The more I read the more I am convinced there has to be someone pulling her strings.I
Certainly don't think Harry is able to make such decisions that they have made.
It will be interesting to see if they do move as some of you and LEA suggest.
Absolutely agree with you.
Did you read the little article saying Charles wanted to “issue a point by point rebuttal” to the interview allegations (it was in both the Sun and Page Six), but the Queen overruled him and put out her short statement instead?
If that is so, do you think even weak Charles has had one eye opened? As I said a day ago, agreeing with AvaC’s comment, I am sick and tired of the Queen as granny and Charles as sad doting daddy. Protecting Harry, an idiotic unemployed whining middle-aged man, has caused the U.K. to be smeared, and Australia to ask for leadership discussions. Enough is enough. Charles’ finger pointing or the Queen’s tremulous head-in-the-sand weakness needs to stop. Or William needs to take measures.
My gut feeling says that Kate stepping out on her own as she did to pay respects at the public memorial to poor Sarah Everard signaled also that she and William will step forth sooner than later to lead as they can. Somehow, I think the last two weeks of Harkle nonsense clicked something in the Cambridges. Sometimes people find their strength and new determination or direction from a challenge.
I just read that Malala extended a deal with Apple+ to provide content.
There's my own story, I have been telling that and I have met so many girls and I have been able to build a platform that they can tell a story. But now it's time to go even more and to do even more and to have the platform of storytelling and bring new perspectives."
Sound familiar? Oprah has a deal with Apple+. Knowing that the Harkles wanted to provide the same exact content as Malala, why didn't Apple+ sign them first? Surely Oprah would have put in a good word for them!
Remember when the Netflix guy said "Who wouldn't want to work with the Harkles". If he wanted to sign them, why would he be touting them to competition?
Bottom line....Oprah is the only one supporting them and every option to make Harkles "happen" has flopped. Thriving people don't need to throw family under the bus.
Your point about why couldn't she follow up? She certainly wasn't tied up in the Tower without her phone and able to call/text/email this person?
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I meant why didn't she ask H what was meant by that comment?
I would have been all over my husband as to exactly who said what, before, during and after.
There would have been no stopping until I understood the situation. And then the next day he and I would have been meeting with all those present during the incident and having a talk.
But no. We have little Miss Can't Let a Slight Go for One Instant, all chummy with these people after the comment is made. Still making goo goo eyes at PW and PC.
Apparently doesn't quiz her own husband as to what is going on. Just ignores it and moves on. Does that sound like her? No, it doesn't.
Holding onto this slight for years. Waiting to throw it as a bombshell into her tell-all interview.
There is something definitely off with this story. They can't even get the timeline straight between themselves. Much like the engagement and baby being born timelines.
I think something was said, his telling of it felt genuine, although I think he's lying about the context and intent, and also omitting his part in the conversation.
Her telling didn't feel genuine in the least. Everything she said was a lie and she knew it. She knew she was using this story to throw a molotov cocktail into the family. Her telling reminded me of him in front of the stables with the birth story. Most of what he was saying was a lie and he knew it, thus his extreme discomfort speaking. She's much more comfortable spitting out a bunch of lies.
This was her big reveal that she was going to use to get the public all whipped up and then they would kick all the big meanies at the palace out and make her Queen. She didn't really care who was king.
In that light, it is entirely possible that Harry made some remark in that vein. Did he then worry that whoever he said it to would report back to Meg, so he had to head that off at the pass and put his words into somebody else's mouth as soon as he got home?
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Possibly. He certainly is masking his part in the incident. And she's letting him.
Although only for the public.
I think she knows exactly who said what and in what context, and also H's part in it.
She's deliberately twisting what was said and he's letting her. Why? Doesn't have the spine to cross her? Rather throw his family under the bus than risk crossing her?
His story felt genuine, hers did not. She had 'duper's delight' written all over her face and body language.
I think what happened was that he wasn't offended at all by the comment when it happened. It wasn't until he got home and told her about it and she *told* him he was offended.
If he was so shocked and offended why didn't he confront the person on the spot? At the bare minimum why didn't he at least confront them the next day?
If he was too scared to do it alone, why didn't he and she together demand a family meeting to clear the air? A family meeting would definitely seem necessary if they were truly offended and not just using this as a weapon.
Im still waiting for her to show up in Miami. Its where everyone is going and newly single A Rod is there. and closer to those money laundering islands ;-)
Indeed, LOTS of millionaires, billionaires, arms dealers, narcos, Russian oligarchs, sex traffickers, Arabic princelings, assorted European royalty, various celebrities, money launderers and other assorted international criminals, rich Central and South Americans plotting coups. Then there are the average working people just trying to make a living. Houston's ineffective police chief has gone there so the powers that be *really* don't want people looking too closely into "business" matters.
They have great food, too!
I still wonder about the gay thing. Maybe closet gay?
Nothing about their relationship has ever read sexual. He actually seems remarkably uninterested in her, in any way at all.
For all her clinginess, he just walks around like he has a weird human barnacle hanging onto him. There's no sense of masculine protectiveness or romantic connection. It's as if a rabid dog has chomped onto his ankle and won't let go.
When she's speaking, he's not really interested in what she's saying, he's just waiting for his turn to speak his lines. And worried that he's going to screw them up.
I found the clip of Kate at the public memorial to Sarah Everard truly groundbreaking (in a subtle typically British way). I've been feeling so sorry for Kate and, to me, she looked like she'd simply had enough. She wasn't even wearing a mask. I think because she was so pushed to the limit she didn't think of it.
The Cambridges have stopped rolling over and playing nice. With this private visit by Kate and William answering an all-important, impromptu question totally against protocol - in the same week - they're allowing themselves to be human. Though not in the self-indulgent Markle way.
We also have to remember that their strongest instincts will be to protect their children and the Sussexes are trashing their future. With Charles you always felt his mind was focused on his own generation. On Camilla. On himself. So he presents a weak, self-absorbed front to the Sussexes, without the extra primal edge you have as a parent. The Cambridges are completely different. They are a strong, consistent, united front for their children and therefore for us.
I often think of poor Archie. We have seen the Cambridge children running and playing in the sunshine. Being a normal family. That joyous picture of Charlotte skipping along, absolutely carefree in her simple summer dress. All three children getting plentiful cuddles when they want them. Beautiful, colourful, crystal clear family photos several times a year. Those royal milestones that mean a lot to millions but that Meghan aggressively witholds. If she does allow photos she distorts them or obscures them. Archie is essentially Blanket II. So sad and so unnecessary.
Thinking of the Sussexes and the Cambridges is becoming an antithetical word association test for me. "Light". "Dark". "Love". "Hate". "Warmth". "Cold". "Calm". "Chaos". "Sunshine". "Storm". "True". "False".
I think what happened was that he wasn't offended at all by the comment when it happened. It wasn't until he got home and told her about it and she *told* him he was offended.
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In fact I wonder if she too was at all offended. She understood the conversation as a naturally flowing one without racist derision, but filed that exchange away under 'To Use Later'. I remember reading somewhere else that she was not happy with the black preacher and choir stealing attention from her at the wedding - or something to that effect. To me she doesn't come off as proud to be part black at all. This is an unauthentic manifestation of herself.
Thinking of the Sussexes and the Cambridges is becoming an antithetical word association test for me. "Light". "Dark". "Love". "Hate". "Warmth". "Cold". "Calm". "Chaos". "Sunshine". "Storm". "True". "False".
So we’ll said. Thank you.
"@Mel
I think what happened was that he wasn't offended at all by the comment when it happened. It wasn't until he got home and told her about it and she *told* him he was offended.
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In fact I wonder if she too was at all offended. She understood the conversation as a naturally flowing one without racist derision, but filed that exchange away under 'To Use Later'. I remember reading somewhere else that she was not happy with the black preacher and choir stealing attention from her at the wedding - or something to that effect. To me she doesn't come off as proud to be part black at all. This is an unauthentic manifestation of herself."
Somewhere in the articles that came out about her bullying ahead of the interview revealed that she was unhappy with the engagement interview on the grounds that the interviewer didn't fawn and gush over her / the occasion throughout the interview.
A little humor for a rainy California day. (Sorry if already posted). American conservative commentators are having a great laugh over the Sussexes.
I think everybody that isn't on their payroll is laughing at them. I take that back, probably their PR and attorneys are laughing, too, as they pad the bill with extra charges for having to put up with them.
Even SwampMan read their PR headline about her running for President and said "So, this pale woman wearing blackface makeup which apparently is racist except for Democrats couldn't live on a $5 million per year allowance from Prince Charles when all their other expenses are covered and then goes sobbing to the press because somebody allegedly said some mean thing thinks that she can make it in politics as a *black* woman when she's been claiming to be white for the past 30-something years?"
Me: "Seems that way."
Husband: "So, what qualifications does she have?"
Me: "The same as heels up Harris, except for the law degree."
@Ava C
Thinking of the Sussexes and the Cambridges is becoming an antithetical word association test for me. "Light". "Dark". "Love". "Hate". "Warmth". "Cold". "Calm". "Chaos". "Sunshine". "Storm". "True". "False".
So we’ll said. Thank you.
I agree completely! VERY good points!
Pippa, Kate's sister, has given birth to a girl, Grace Elizabeth. Some good news for Kate after the spectacle de merde inflicted by her brother-in-law and his harpy.
Such happy news and no baby bump clutching drama.
I thought they were over because JM was racist? And the bouquet doesn't look huge, unless JM needed to split it into two vases.
She must need Jessica for something.
Swampwoman - heels up harris without the law degree oh that is good! Besides Megs connections with Russians are so yesterday. China is where the woke politicians go. Once again, so behind the times ;-)
We are asked to believe this “strong, independent, whip smart woman and feminist” — who took a huge soap company to task as a mere child and curled her lip snottily in a Nickelodeon tv interview about it; and who spoke to the UN and labeled herself a humanitarian — was afraid to ask her weak, soft husband about her “assumption” about what was said?
Based on baby/toddler photos we have of Markle and the father-who-gave-her-everything until she styled herself as a sassy and financially independent orphan instead, Rach was a cute baby. Those pictures of Thomas with his little Flower look so happy--if only he knew what was coming once Flower learned to talk and started interacting with other children. As usually happens with homo sapiens, cute small kids morph into awkward-looking tweens and adolescents. Some people are lucky enough to blossom again around 16 or 17 without aid of plastic surgery and fake hair. A smaller cohort yet just sail through the years that are awkward for everyone else just continuing to get better-looking.
Thomas and the various other men MM has glommed onto over the years have certainly provided her with many aids to beauty. Can't really figure out why she can't get dentures that fit properly. My feeling is she was way too impatient to do it the hard way and submit to braces when she was in middle school. She could've straightened her own teeth and then got the veneers or the bleaching, whatever. Does anybody else wonder when exactly Harry was treated to the sight of his woman, American sex goddess/A-list supermodel/humanitarian . . au naturel? Has she ever taken everything off for his eyes only? If so, no wonder the man labels himself as suffering from PTSD.
With all the shenanigans surrounding the pregnancy with Archie and now this next media project she's embroiled on--looks like she should've popped with twins prior to the Oprah interview based on that one B&W photo of the Unholy family where 'Archie's' entire head and upper body is swallowed up in a huge knitted sweater I at first mistook for a blanket and Harry is in an even more bizarre position where he looks like he's crouched down and hiding behind his wife. In this 'family portrait' the only face that can be seen in full view is Rach's of course. Her husband and child are so immaterial, she's forced them to cover up and hide themselves all the better to showcase her yak wig and 11-month bump. I don't know why the media aren't as disturbed by this photo as I am, but the mystery of Rach's iron hold on media outlets continues to mystify.
You made snort!
Just an appreciation post for everyone's analysis. Great content/ observations as usual
I've seen photos of possible injuries before, but these are closeups of Harry's injuries, and they are shocking:
https://www.quora.com/I-recently-saw-a-picture-of-Prince-Harry-with-a-black-eye-big-bruising-on-his-hand-and-arm-Was-he-injured-in-an-accident
those pics are chilling...
I knew I'd seen it somewhere! there have been rumours that Markus Anderson lives with them and he seems to have all but disappeared recently........
http://guerrillademocracy.blogspot.com/2020/02/prince-harry-in-threesome-blackmail-sex.html
https://mrxinvestigations.home.blog/2020/02/29/prince-harry-in-threesome-blackmail-sex-tape-scandal/
If the Blind Gossip info on his behaviour with working girls whilst in Afghanistan is correct, it strikes me that his 'mental health' problems are pretty serious and that it's possible that he really doesn't like women very much.
@AnT - Yes, i've said before that I thought the Queen may have been presented with a 'fait accompli' and they had already married. Whoever officiated if this is the case must surely have known who he was though?
March 8, 2021
They can say what they want, and of course the A+ lister won't, because of their business partnership, but go look where the funds came from for the house. It all goes back to the dad. Every single penny. But apparently that is cut off.
Meghan Markle/Prince Harry/Oprah/Prince Charles
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/03/blind-items-revealed-1_15.html
hitting back at H&M Oprah special
https://blindgossip.com/the-calculated-baby/#more-102003
Interesting wording - "from a genetic perspective" - but did M carry the child vs a surrogate? I'm sure the RF are thrilled to know that Harry's sperm is stored somewhere in another country. Maybe someone will steal it and implant it somewhere else and have a royal baby
Although there were rumors out there that the baby wasn’t really theirs, we will tell you that they did not need to use anyone else’s eggs or anyone else’s sperm. The baby is absolutely theirs from a genetic perspective. Sorry, conspiracy theorists!
Who are "guerillademocracy and mrxinvestigations? I can't find any details on them. We have to be careful that we use reliable sources for our information. These are just two bloggers who can write anything that they want.
These are some of their other headlines:
"Maddy McCann Has Been Found"
"The Queen's Arrest Is Imminent"
"Pope Has Been Arrested On 80 Count Indictment
One of these bloggers puts up a Danja Zone post in which it says Danja got her info from a friend who is an empath and saw her info about an H/M/M threesome in a dream. An empath who sees her info in a dream is not a viable source for news.
Also, MM would surely know the difference between a chat with the archbishop in their back yard and a real marriage. Did they exchange vows? Exchange rings? Did the archbishop announce them as "husband and wife?" Did they do the "you may now kiss the bride?" Did they sign anything? We know that they didn't have witnesses.
Did you read the little article saying Charles wanted to “issue a point by point rebuttal” to the interview allegations (it was in both the Sun and Page Six), but the Queen overruled him and put out her short statement instead?
If that is so, do you think even weak Charles has had one eye opened? As I said a day ago, agreeing with AvaC’s comment, I am sick and tired of the Queen as granny and Charles as sad doting daddy. Protecting Harry, an idiotic unemployed whining middle-aged man, has caused the U.K. to be smeared, and Australia to ask for leadership discussions. Enough is enough. Charles’ finger pointing or the Queen’s tremulous head-in-the-sand weakness needs to stop. Or William needs to take measures.
I think Charles's desire to mount a rebuttal, plus the revelation that he has refused to take Harry's calls for nearly a year perhaps signal that Charles is not quite as clueless or indulgent of the mess the fruit of his loins is creating as the public perception might seem. Charles is deeply concerned with his image & his popularity, and he's got to know that Harry's antics are even more damaging to him than Diana's were. Diana was an ex-wife, but Harry is half Charles by blood and Haz is badly letting down the side there. Charles is a reactive and emotional man but he's dutiful and wouldn't dare go against Mummy publicly. But he lets things slip to 'friends' which he wants known, such as his hurt, prior to Louis's birth that he never got to see his grandkids. After the birth of Boss Baby there seems to have been some healing between Chas and William and we've got some lovely photos to bolster this. Maybe Charles is also leaking what he would prefer to be doing in the hopes that Mummy will relent and let him do something more. It must be incredibly frustrating to be a 72-year-old grandfather oneself yet still beholden to Mother for everything he does and says. He and William are both hobbled by the hierarchy they serve. Charles is a breath away from the throne but as long as the current occupant is still breathing, she gets to dictate the company line.
I hope that he persuades Mummy that a more robust approach is called for and is allowed to carry it out. ER never wants to be too bold, in anything, but she's got to be made to see that this festering problem, like the fracas surrounding Diana in 1997 is not going to Go Away with regal head-in-sand.
It's occurred to me that the BRF may not actually know exactly where the Sussexes are living. They have put an ocean and a continent between themselves and the family to obscure all of their activities and movements, even something so basic as where they live. It's madness . . how can the expectant parents of a child under two really and truly be living like this? Especially after Charles may have given them as much as $5 million dollars to set themselves up in a 'forever home' . . which as you recall, just a few months ago, the Cambridges were 'definitely' coming to visit. Yeah, sure.
Charles should consult with organizations which have successfully operated to extract vulnerable people out of cults because that is essentially where Harry's at now.
The Duke of Wellington in a similar situation refused to be blackmailed and is credited with saying `Publish and be damned!'
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rear-window-when-wellington-said-publish-and-be-damned-field-marshal-and-scarlet-woman-1430412.html
The report I read a while back mentioned a 3-some. Given what we know of their predilections, it won't be pretty, though I don't know whereabouts on the porn scale it might be (I guess it would count as `hard' but I know zilch about such things). I'd better stop there - my imagination is already working overtime.
I really can't imagine either HM or PC wanting that to come out. Even I'm close to a fit of the vapours as to the possibilities.
Truly, H is a F-ing Idiot.
Might both HM & PC consider it their duty to the country to step back and let William take the reins as Regent ? It's such a tragedy but it needs someone with backbone. Is it possible to spike their guns by saying `Yes, we're being blackmailed. It's not nice but M & H are into extortion. Brace yourselves!'
The British People and Government are the ones that need to stay loyal. Never mind the US. In the past, the `People' has meant the City so that may be tricky.
You make very valid points re Charles. I wish he would come out with a statement praising Grip and Drip's "financial independence" success and how he is so proud of how they now handle all their own bills--including security. They stressed "financial independence" in their Megxit manifesto so use it on them
As I mentioned, I responded to Hikaris' post exploring the possibility that Harry was gay and possible blackmail is involved. I responded as I originally saw a very surprising comment suggesting the same, beneath an article about the couple in the Daily Mail not long after their marriage.
I doubt very much that any 'reliable source' would touch that information ( if there's any truth in it of course) with a ten foot bargepole§
Out of interest, who would you consider to be a reliable source?
You make very valid points re Charles. I wish he would come out with a statement praising Grip and Drip's "financial independence" success and how he is so proud of how they now handle all their own bills--including security. They stressed "financial independence" in their Megxit manifesto so use it on them
I think you've hit on a winning strategy. As much as Charles would love to defend himself and deny the smear job the Harkles are trying on him, such a tit-for-tat set of denials, of admissions of being hurt and let down, etc., no matter how justified & true will only come across as hollow at best (Sussex camp: "Well, of course they are going to deny that they are racist bullies.") and petty and vindictive at worst. (Rachel: You see how cold-hearted they are about MY PAIN?? I told you they were racist bullies!!!) Never mind that the Harkle clowns are doing precisely that which they accuse other of in their victim statements . . they are NEVER the sinners, only ever the sinned against, always. That's how they roll.
Charles could heap coals on their heads by lavishing them with praise for how successful they've become . . so much more quickly even than was hoped for. How wonderful. What a load off our mind that is, that they are doing so well and have so many caring and powerful friends in America. He always knew Tungsten would rise to the top! Meanwhile, privately, the bullying allegations should be fully investigated. Media blackout there . . let Meg find out how that's going when she's slapped with a class action suit for causing mental anguish on behalf of the two dozen or more royal staff she drove from employment and caused to have mental breakdowns. MI-5 can start a steady leak from all their collected Meghan files . . extra points for pictures, video and audio that depict her abusing staff, particularly if they are minorities. Perhaps that hapless black waiter at the Inskip wedding can be found and deposed about his interactions with Racial Justice Warrior Princess Meghan. It's Kraken Time, BRF. Don't sit on that Beastie any longer . .it's time to let it out . .and the Beastie is hungry. It particularly enjoys yak hair and plastic.
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Archewell is off and running - wonder what the donation is? Maybe they will advertise the charity on their site instead of giving money.
and if PC actually owns it, what if he decides, hey you ungrateful hypocrits, i am going to sell the house. You need to starting looking elsewhere for a roof over your head.
Maybe he told them, i'll purchase the house and you'll buy it back from me but you have to pay Rent & all expenses (utilities, upkeep, security etc).
SO JH Quits the BRF because he’s can’t handle being second banana/ the spare/ sixth in line to the Head of State, and hates the Press/ Media intrusion into his and family life, and hated living in a fish bowl, and hates social media criticism, hated that that he couldn’t move freely about and go for a bike ride. and perhaps disliked the weather in the UK and prefers the sunny palm trees of CA?
Yet, presumably, ( unless they divorce) , he’ll support his wife running for president, which means endless Media/ Press intrusion, endless criticism, living in a WH fish bowl, being Second Banana again as FMOTUS, Schmoozing /Selling out with everyone, slimeballs, the Filthy Rich for Cash Donations, etc etc.
It makes absolutely no sense and he’s either craycray like his wife, drank a keg of Kool-aid, or they’ll be divorced by then.
I'm a former journalist with a degree in journalism, and I could probably write a book on reliable sources. Just google "what is considered a reliable news source."
I'll also put up the wiki of a friend of mine, Duff Wilson, one of the best and most reliable reporters around:
Duff Wilson
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Duff Wilson is an American investigative reporter, formerly with The New York Times,[1] later with Reuters. He is the first two-time winner of the Harvard University Goldsmith Prize for Investigative Reporting,[2] a two-time winner of the George Polk Award, and a three-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.
Education
Wilson graduated from Western Washington University in 1976, and from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1982.[3][4]
Career
He has worked for The Seattle Times, The New York Times and Reuters and has served on the board of Investigative Reporters and Editors.[5] Since 2010 he has taught investigative reporting at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.[6] Wilson joined The New York Times in 2004. During his time there, Wilson covered topics such as pharmaceutical and tobacco industries along with sports-related investigations, mainly steroids. Prior to working for The Times, he worked as an investigative projects reporter for The Seattle Times since 1989. Before working here, he worked for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and the Associated Press. At the Seattle PI, Wilson wrote that paper's story about Gary Little. Wilson is also a webmaster of Reporter's
Works
Fateful Harvest: The True Story of a Small Town, a Global Industry, and a Toxic Secret. HarperCollins. 2001. ISBN 978-0-06-019369-0.
Awards and honors
1998; 2002 Goldsmith Prize for Investigative Reporting
2001; 2003 George Polk Award for medical and local reporting
2002 Gerald Loeb Award for Large Newspapers[9]
2002 Heywood Broun Award[10]
May 2012 Sidney Award
2003; 2002; 1998 three time Pulitzer finalist
Public-service awards from the Associated Press Managing Editors and the Newspaper Guild
2002; Book-of-the-year honors from IRE for his book Fateful Harvest: The True Story of a Small Town, a Global Industry, and a Toxic Secret[4]
USACBL champion.
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I know Duff's credentials and his ethics as a reliable source for news because I worked with him. I have a funny story that I'll tell here sometime about when Duff and I were dancing on a plexiglass dance floor, and he fell right through it and disappeared into the sub floor!
After reading about reliable sources and Duff's extensive resume, I think you can figure out what a reliable source is. I have reporter friends all over the country, so if you're still confused, I'll be happy to point out more reliable sources. Suki Dardarian, another dear old friend, is also a very reliable reporter and editor. I have also worked with Suki as her managing editor.
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Your comment makes so much sense, and I agree 100% with your feelings about poor Archie as well. I keep hoping he lives a normal life elsewhere with a chance to play and just be happy. Because these two creatures even have sad, meek dogs.
Harry sitting morosely in the chicken pen with his gabby wife and Oprah somehow added to my concerns about Archie.
I think Harry and Meghan got married in Botswana, but in August 2017 where they went for 3 weeks. This was a year after their 1st trip there shortly after they say they met.
This would explain "The Husband" shirt she wore on their 1st public appearance in September 2017, not to mention her smug demeanor.
As already mentioned by other Nutties, she presented the RF with a 'fait accompli' which we all know is one of her favourite MOs.
It would also explain why she was able to attend the family Christmas at Sandringham that year, before the wedding.
Excellent points.
It’s all absolute craziness.
exploring the possibility that Harry was gay and possible blackmail is involved. I responded as I originally saw a very surprising comment suggesting the same, beneath an article about the couple in the Daily Mail not long after their marriage.
Harry has been legendary for his drunken exploits with women and for a 'bird in every port' for years, apart from the two long-term relationships with Chelsy and Cressida. If you would have asked me 5 years ago about the possibility that Harry was gay, impotent or both, I would have said, 'Nil'. Because he was Happy Hazza, the Cheeky Soldier-Prince, Hero of Afghanistan, with a bird in every port! It's been rumored that he was even messing around with Sarah Anne Macklin, a stunning brunette model who was part of Mugsy's yachting cohort at the identical time he was supposedly exclusive with Mugsy on their LDR.
What if, though, this Harry the Swordsman image is crafted PR just the same as the Cheeky Soldier-Boy Hero/the Queen's favorite Grandson image was meticulously crafted by ELF? In view of Harry's p-whupped demeanor with Meghan, and the fact that he so rarely displays actual happiness in her presence . . was it all a case of 'The princeling doth protest too much?" Harry's arrogance and entitled demeanor has been masking an ego as fragile and insecure as it is monstrous. I think Harry is well-aware that he's a fraud and has been pretending a part every since he followed in William's footsteps at school. Maybe he was more self-confident before losing his mum at a critical age, but her loss alone does not explain all of his subsequent emotional problems. It was disastrous to send Harry to Eton when he didn't have the capability to do the work and everybody knew that he was taking a place from a deserving pupil only because he was the Prince of Wales's son. Harry's insecurities are not all academic in nature, though, I'm pretty sure.
If Harry were actually not into girls, yet as the grandson of the Duke of Edinburgh, in whose military footsteps he was expected to follow, for Queen Granny and country . . how could he be honest about his inclinations, even to himself? Is this the source of all the rage, and all the crude laddish comments about towelheads and Pakis, and so forth . . was he afraid his squadmates would discover his secret and therefore he had to be full of bluster and keep them at arms' length--offense as defense? Was he perhaps attracted to these young men he dismissed as towelheads and Pakis and this was his defense mechanism? Has he paid young women for their company because then he could set the terms of what he was paying for, with no emotional involvement?
When you buy a house you have expenses
like the down payment but you also things like the house inspection. Given that the house had been unoccupied, it would need to be checked out. Does all the plumping work (earthquake may have nudged something maybe?). Is lead paint possible? Are all the outlets working? What's the age of the wiring? Are there appliances? If so do you want them or do you want newer?
On the HUD, like the loan origination fees, maybe courier fees, title and settlement fees. Possible insurance. Are you forced to get PMI? And don't forget the survey. Or deed fee and possible that part of the property taxes.
And if you go to sell it you might be legally required to show that inspection report. Since the survey is that recent, you probably can avoid that fee. But you have fees as well such as title insurance, escrow fees, tax certificate, the property fees, property taxes for the year so far and - how could we forget - the realtor's fee. On a property of that price, that's a big bite out of your final profit/loss statement on how you did coming out of the "investment".
This is why they have articles about Is it better to rent or own. Own is not always better because if you need to sell it soon after buying, then you have all those fees.
If a threeway with Markus is all they've got on him . . I would have expected worse. A lot worse . . perhaps Harry getting violent with partners . .underage partners. Girls or boys would be equally bad, but what if Markus was actually procuring young men for Harry? Or scenarios of BDSM . . a snuff film, even? Or a staged one. Harry might have been persuaded that he'd committed a crime while under the influence, whether or not anyone was actually hurt, and the price for the silence of the witnesses was his marriage and 'whatever Meg wants, Meg gets' . .or else we release the footage. First to the Queen and then to the media.
I have always thought that if it was blackmail, it couldn't be a just sex tape among consenting adults, or even of active drug use. Those are unpalatable but commonplace. But something really bad--like a death by misadventure during a sex game gone wrong, or a pretend one that Harry thought was real . . or girls/boys willing to come forward and allege rape (we see how that took down Uncle Andy).
That's one possibility. I've got another idea which is less sordid but also means that Harry is not the victim of his association with Markle but sees himself as the beneficiary, which means that it's going to be harder to pry him away from her. They both deserve each other, frankly.
If we lay aside the 'Stars Aligned for True Love' angle in what brought this Odd Couple together, how did Hazza potentially benefit from this arrangement, circa 2016 when it would have gotten underway?
1. He was getting on in age, already the age his father was when he married his mum, and there was nobody special in his life. There was starting to be increasing pressure about 'settling down'. In 1981, his 32-year-old father had been labelled a lecherous old geezer for marrying his 20 year old mum. H. was 33 at the time of his marriage and is still passing himself off as part of a 'young couple'. Unfair, innit.
2. He was never going to be given a peerage and increased profile in the Firm so long as he stayed a bachelor Prince. Not to mention, he didn't want to stay at bijou NottCott forever, but Granny wouldn't give him a bigger house as a single man. Plus, if he gained some dependents, he'd get a bigger slice of the pie from Dad and the Sovereign grant.
3. In Meg he'd found a goodtime girl to end them all--a woman with her own hobbies and secrets and absolutely no expectation that he'd be expected to do the Prince Charming thing when they were alone. She didn't care if he screwed boys, or horses. He could do all the dope he wanted, stay out all night, drink himself stupid . . no judgement from Meg. For public consumption, they had to pretend that he'd given up the beer and the partying and the shooting, but Meg seriously didn't and doesn't give AF what he does, just as long as it's done where the media isn't going to get a wind of it.
4. Meg promised him that with all her Hollywood contacts, they could become King and Queen of America and would never have to trail behind William and Kate again. They'd have more servants and a flashier house and would party all the time with the Clooneys, Brad Pitt, etc. No work, no stuffy duty . .just endless fun in the sun. She'd take care of the details; all he'd have to do is show up when she told him to. But he could give two fingers up to Granny and the whole lot of them and together, they'd tell the dreary Windsors and the whole of rainy boring Britain to p!$$ off because they were way too fabulous to be stuck there.
It's very murky and it's got Soho House fingerprints all over it.
The wheels have been coming off their tour bus for some time now, I'd say. Perhaps this entire relationship has been like the Tom Cruise - Katie Holmes union. It's fairly common knowledge now that Katie was recruited by Scientology as a mate for Tom . . she auditioned for and won the role as his girlfriend/fiancee/wife. Her daughter Suri is the spitting image of her, but I don't rule out that Suri was actually conceived in a lab and implanted into her. What if Harry has hired himself a professional wife who made this rather Faustian bargain sound really great, a win/win for both of them . .except that it's not working out exactly as they had hoped for.
I think we can thank Covid to some degree for foiling their dastardly plans. If Covid hadn't happened, we would have had the Orcah blowfest a year earlier, don't we think? And the Harkles might have scored some red carpet invitations and other interviews before it was obvious what kind of devious scheming completely selfish tools they are?
@Nelo,
Think back to the Corden top-of-the-bus interview.
Remember what James said to Harry as the stood outside the Fresh Prince of Bel Air house? Encouraging Harry to buy it, and even insisting on calling Megs who was obviously waiting for a call —
When James tells H he should buy the house and move into LA, Harry looks instantly uptight and blanches.
When James makes a similar remark to Megs (who wasn’t expecting that kind of remark) she quickly says a firm no, they’ve moved enough, they’re not moving again. A normal on camera reply would be a friendly laughing “Oh maybe I will have to see this house!” But - instead, a firm fast no. As Harry stood there panicked.
But in both instances my gut reaction was: no house money, they don’t own a house, they can’t trade in and up.
So......I can believe another move is in the offing from wherever they are. If the LLC/oligarch/laundering entity sold it or wants them out, they will be out, they will hide at Oprah’s or similar until they concoct the next move or story.
That is a very interesting and insightful analysis and I do think the loss of his mother and the circumstances leading up to and surrounding her death have had a marked effect on him and may have led to some very complex problems with how he relates to women in general.
It has been said that both Chelsy and Cressida were very poorly treated by him, hence neither wanting to commit to marriage, with warning bells semmingly ringing for them both.
Add his penchant for self medicating to the point of losing his judgement and inhibitions ( naked in Vegas being just one example) and he would have been very vulnerable to being led into compromising situations.
Gay or bisexual, if it's blackmail with menaces of the release of compromising photographs, I agree with @WBBM that this would be too much for the Queen and it would be more appropriate to hand it to William to manage if the RF went for a 'publish and be dammned' approach.
Since all their games have expiration points—
A. At some point, some human will have to see “Archie” in person, regularly, for more than a minute
B. At some point, they won’t be able to make multiple addresses a year seem normal
C. At some point, Harry will need a fixed address to get citizenship
D. At some point, they will have to produce $200,000,000 (Or whatever it is today) worth of entertainment product for Netflix & Spotify
...I think soon they’re going to have to do a grifters’ cut’n’run.
They have already used the dead mom, evil father, miscarriage, suicide, racism, break in, and lawsuit soap opera stories.
What is left?
If a threeway with Markus is all they've got on him . . I would have expected worse. A lot worse . . perhaps Harry getting violent with partners . .underage partners. Girls or boys would be equally bad, but what if Markus was actually procuring young men for Harry? Or scenarios of BDSM . . a snuff film, even? Or a staged one. Harry might have been persuaded that he'd committed a crime while under the influence, whether or not anyone was actually hurt, and the price for the silence of the witnesses was his marriage and 'whatever Meg wants, Meg gets' . .or else we release the footage. First to the Queen and then to the media."
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I agree with you that these days a threesome is not s big deal. I don't engage in that behavior, but many do. That would cause a blip of a scandal, but not much. I've also thought of the possibility that Harry is gay or bi. Your ideas about entrapment by a deal cooked up by Soho House people could be valid.
There's one photo of Harry, close up, with his hand over one eye, as if he is in deep emotional pain. I'm trying to find it now, but when I saw that photo, it seemed like such a feminine gesture with very feminine hands.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Harry was gay or bi.
Thank you for your resumé.
Noted.
I have been struck by how feminine Harry’s demeanor and body language often seems. The way he worries and twists his hands...we don’t even see that grin Auntie Elton. He seemed very Butch during those photographs with the Army, But either he is much diminished by Meg and her ball breaking domineering personality, or he’s always been femme. For someone always portrayed as such a sports man and a man of action, Harry does not seem at all comfortable with himself. His aura is of a very tentative person. One of his text that bothers me is the way he always has one hand stuffed into his suit jacket. It’s like a self comforting gesture. Harry is not a confident man.
How different made the trajectory of his life have been if he had resisted the blandishments of Markle and her shady cohort. I don’t know for certain that he is gay or bi, but if he were a part of rainbow nation, he could’ve blazed a trail by being authentic to himself. That would have been easier to do after his grandparents were gone, but they just live on and on. If he is not homosexual, he definitely has some elements of sadomasochism in his personality that is definitely part of this relationship. Hair is always been the abuser, but perhaps he secretly craves abuse and debasement, Something with Markle happily dishes out. Markus Anderson is openly gay, Having one spending acknowledge boyfriend is Edward Enninful of Vogue. So maybe it’s him and Harry who are the real couple while Meg watches/ And wields the video camera to ensure that hair he will never leave her until she’s ready to leave him.
You're right that they wanted that shut down fast.
Maybe because they have already moved, or knew they were going to move, from wherever they were living and didn't want anyone digging into it.
They probably were afraid the JC knew something and who knows where he was headed with that line of conversation.
Hikari feels that Harry should not have gone to Eton. I tend to agree but for very different reasons. Unless one is really thick or rather more likely uninterested (which we now call special needs) all syllabi are the same - are they not? My reason for supposing it was not a good school for Harry is that he would always be in the shadow of his older brother, the man born to be King. I thus do not think it a good idea for siblings to attend the same school.
I know you are all dying to know but I must disappoint you: I have never had a threesome, rarely a twosome and not much a onesome. I believe I am what is known as incel, but frankly, relations with other people only tended to bring me misery.
I know what you mean by Harry's feminine gestures, but because I'm not British, I don't know if those are a part of the Old Etonian's gestures.
I just read last night that Napoleon, in his famous painting with his hand stuck in his jacket, asked for that pose because he was not a part of the aristocracy, and by by putting his hand in his jacket like that, he elevated himself into a higher social bracket, as that is what the aristocracy was doing at the time.(Sorry, long sentence!)
However, in Harry's case, I think you're right about it being a self-soothing action.
Was it Chelsey who said he wasn't a very nice person? I believe that, and that Harry, in the state he is in now, may have increased his reaction to anger, possibly becoming violent or engaging in unusual or violent sexual behavior.
Now, we have to ponder whether both Harry and MM get their kicks from receiving pain or causing pain? Did you see the photos of bite marks and bruises on Harry's hands that I put up earlier today? Something's going on there (wherever The Harkles may be).
Well then, Jessica needs to start an online school to teach how to overcome your racist self to the degree that MeGain will send you flowers. The RF can be the first enrollees. And MeGain can be a guest lecturer, spouting on how to over come your inner racist or whatever enlightenment she thinks she has. Explain this one to me Oprah.
To have something like that said, be *that* offended, and then sit on it for several years? Doesn't seem normal.
Who sits on something they think is nasty, doesn't try to deal with it within the family or company, and then drags it out on national TV a few years later? And doesn't even give the parties involved a chance to respond?
So are they saying that they made *no* attempt to resolve that? Ever?
They heard it, filed it away for future use, and then went on like nothing was wrong?
It almost as if she’d FINALLY found a concrete something she could use against the family in her search to find a weapon she could use to take them down with. Even if she did have to twist it from nothing into something.
Notice that she had nothing concrete to go with. Second hand info, nebulous at that. No facts. She threw out a few key words and hoped you'd jump to the racist conclusion. Which many people did.
No wonder PC and PW and the Queen feel betrayed. And Catherine, who must feel the most betrayed of all.
Who would want to work with someone like that? Something happens that they don't like, but rather than say anything about it at the time and give an have an opportunity to make amends, they stew about it for a few years, and then go on Oprah to whine about it?
In the meantime acting like everything's hunky dory, flirting with the two highest ranked men?
I didn't hear that Harry twisted the nipple of another soldier. What a weird thing to do.
I was once in the bar of a restaurant in San Francisco, *with my mother*, waiting for our table for dinner. It was a top rate restaurant, but when the maitre d came to guide us to our table, he walked right up to me and twisted my nipple hard through my clothes. Luckily, I was sitting on a bar stool, giving me extra height, and I punched that guy in the face, put on my coat and walked out the door to the cheers of people who had witnessed it.
I know you are all dying to know but I must disappoint you: I have never had a threesome, rarely a twosome and not much a onesome. I believe I am what is known as incel, but frankly, relations with other people only tended to bring me misery.
March 16, 2021 at 12:29 AM
Too funny, I am in that same boat.
No way in h*ll is that the same kid as the duck rabbit kid.
Or the striped shirt kid.
She must think we're really stupid.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/12/prince-harry-terrible-husband-who-failed-protect-wife/
“My sense is that — if Meghan is telling the truth — Harry duped her. He didn’t want to lose her, so he never told her the truth about what her life would be like after things got serious, and, most especially, after she became a member of the family.”
....”If this is true, while Meghan was in a suicidal spiral, her husband Harry, who knew she was suicidal and who is worth millions, did nothing! He just sat there and allowed his suicidal wife to be screwed around by bureaucrats. What kind of monster allows his wife to go through this? What kind of monster does not immediately take control of this situation.”
“ From what I’m seeing, most of the post-interview criticism is aimed at Meghan. After reading the transcript, I certainly didn’t come away impressed with Meghan, but it’s the useless and heartless Harry who’s earned my true contempt. If everything Meghan said is true, she just exposed him to the world as a breathtaking failure of a man and husband.”
Im kinda getting on board with Hikari on what else could the gang have on Harry? Brits may not want a prince on the public and family dole in threesome relationship (HGTV had one with House Hunters but I forgot the term) Maybe not. Could it be worse, is he a really bad drunk and there is pic or video (or deep fake) while he was drunk that was so heinous as to be damaging and illegal - so potential blackmail or certainly a desire to keep that lifestyle going but granny wont pay for that sort of thing.
@opus - who needs people, you have opera! enough crazy relationships for a lifetime but set to better music than reality.
I'd love to hear what Sasha Exeter says about MM sending Jessica M flowers.
Why do the flowers have a ribbon that says, "Luckiest Friend." What an odd thing to put on birthday flowers. Lucky for what? Being a friend of MM?
Speaking of two very close friends who hang on each other VERY closely all of the time, maybe there's "something" going on between MM and Jessica, too? Jessica looks like she's half-man to me already.
I don't really trust breitbart for news but it is interesting to see some publication actually go after Drip.
IIRC a couple of years ago Drip was lamenting about being in Will's shadow and that he had only a few years to be relevant (until George comes of age or is old enough to do Royal work). Any who, I find it rather humorous that Harry bi*ched about playing second fiddle to Will when now he plays second fiddle to Grip.
How many pictures have we seen with just Harry and Archie? One. How many pictures/videos of Harry holding Archie or Archie in a carrier? Presenting Archie to the Queen (Grip is actually in that one) and (as mentioned above) and possibly (though believed to be fake) of him holding a carrier during the infamous "Pub Lunch".
Grip: Archie in SA (don't think any pictures of Jarry holding him) much video of her and Archie
Mothers' Day only Grip and Archie. No Harry. And NO Father's Day picture/video of Drip and Archie. None
Recently released pictures center on Grip, Drip is an afterthought.
Harry has given up playing second fiddle or being invisible behind Will only to now be second fiddle or invisible behind his Mrs.
For the record, I think he's an arse behind closed doors and he married her because she puts up with it and she supplies an unlimited supply of the best recreational hobby materials he could ever want. Its what they have in common.
Re. Hazza’s hand worrying
I can only observe that William is an Old Etonian too and he’s never done that. Lord Mountbatten never did either, I imagine. I think it’s unique to Harry, along with a very girlish high-pitched giggling when nervous. During the baby announcement video in front of the queen Staples, all of his tics were on display ....Probably because he was lying out of his ass. The Harkles are both terrible liars for as much as they do it, but Harry’s tells are more obvious. I wasn’t quite sure whether nipple tweaking was in the same category of acceptable Matey locker room behavior as snapping someone’s butt with a towel, but it did strike me as a pretty queer thing to do to another man In a public setting.
I’m still reeling from reading about the assault you experienced at the bar. I can’t believe it was the senior ranking hospitality employee that did it to you—That was sexual assault plain and simple. I hope you didn’t have any difficulties from punching him in the face, which he Roundly deserved, So if you’d managed to get him arrested and fired as well that would’ve been even more satisfying. I wonder if he was high Because it’s not like you were at a strip club in New Orleans; where was his head at?
Opus,
If Harry’s tastes actually swing to boys, one wonders if it was first cultivated at Eton? Regardless of Harry’s sexual orientation, I agree that following in William’s shadow Was not the best scenario for Harry. Even if he had been a top student, He deserved to carve his own place away from inevitable comparisons to his older brother, the future King. Since Harry could not compete academically, and had to resort to cheating to pass even one course, that made it even worse. Charles had wanted to go to Eton, and was determined that both his boys should have that experience which he was denied. I suppose if it had been put to hairy at the time, he would’ve insisted that he wanted to do exactly what William was doing. That doesn’t mean it was the best choice for him to go there. Charles understandably Had great animosity toward Gordonstoun, But his hated alma mater might have actually been the making of Harry. That rigorous program certainly would have been better preparation for Sandhurst and the army, And Harry might have actually turned out as real soldier material instead of the tin soldier variety.
Harry’s experiences at Eton Seem to have been the start of his animosity and jealousy toward William, who he blamed for not including him in his circle of pals or somehow smoothing his way even more than it had been already. William was two possibly three classes ahead—How was third or fourth year was supposed to include his first year little brother and with his mates Is unclear. They would’ve had completely different peer groups, probably different dormitories too. Just a bit of early victimology from Hazza, Where in any problems he was having were automatically William’s fault for being the first born.
I'm ashamed to say I didn't realise Sandy McKendrick had an American career as well as at Ealing Studios. I loved his comedies - quite subversive really.
I can't now find my copy of `Lethal Innocence' - perhaps I gave it away when I stopped studying British films of the 50s & 60s as evidence of social attitudes. Damn!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9365159/Michelle-Obama-urges-Harry-Meghan-forgive-royals.html
The comments call out that Meghan is the issue that runs his life. It’s interesting in that, that assertion alone seems counter to Brietbart’s view of male/female rolls in a marriage. How could Harry help her if it was all a lie, and he’s dealing with Jekyl and Hyde day to day. He couldn’t. She managed to manipulate it, so that it was impossible to get herself help and she admittedly downplayed it to Harry (or never told him until recently?? The timeline of Harry knowing she was distressed doesn’t make sense and was never clarified).
I found it most interesting that this author only read a transcript of the interview. He can’t seem Meghan’s controlling cues, and Harry’s defiance. Meghan and Oprah and positioned him on the back foot, as a caged animal that needed to fight anyone but the women in front of him.
You're welcome! I hope that helps!
What are they going to do about the investigations? (I personally think a lawsuit will be filed on behalf of the victims)
It looks like a cheap, several days old bouquet to me? I just spend $120 on 1-800 flowers for my sister and the arrangement she got had a lot left to be desired. I’d be embarrassed if she showed a photo!
So, we’re all supposed to blow over the actual racist Jessica now? Because Meghan has anointed her? I don’t get it. More of Meghan’s ‘rules for thee, not for me’ mantra.
What are they going to do about the investigations? (I personally think a lawsuit will be filed on behalf of the victims)
I, (and probably most sane Brits) would sincerely hope that this isn't covered up and that they sue the arse off her! 😒
Eton was completely the wrong choice for Harry simply because he was completely outgunned in terms of intellect. Eton isn't simply the school for social conhections. It's genuinely the top school in the country academically speaking. Combined with it's resources and every student there is a hothoused orchid whose academic ability is nurtured harder than anywhere else.
By all accounts Harry was good with the sports, physical games at the school, and he should have been sent to Gordonstoun like his cousins Peter and Zara because that would have been a better fit for his abilities and perhaps he'd have developed properly away from the hothouse atmosphere and dependence on William.
Eton was chosen for Harry to keep him near William, but it was the wrong choice because was beyond his abilities and didn't fit him at all.
It can be devastating to to try your best, assuming he tried, and never make the grade simply because you are in a class of geniuses. Not helped by tutors willing to help or overlook your shortcomings.
It's rather disappointing that he never committed to the army properly because he was pretty dedicated as a cadet at Eton. That was his chance to make something of himself away from William and no brains required.
this is typical narci megs and narci Messica setting the stage for Meg's next god awful move to put in the can to distract from what ever comes out from the palace bullying investigation. More people may come forward to reveal details, or maybe a video or audio of Megs ranting at someone.
I don't like Breitbart for news, either, but didn't want to say anything because I'd just had a convo here about reliable news sources.
No worries. I haven't mentioned I've been vaccinated because I don't want to be accused of being chipped. it is somewhat the same thing.
I understand what you mean. Strange world now, isn't it?
"yep" seems to be the proper response (not sure why its better than "yes" but I'm told it is)
Congratulations to Pippa Middleton Matthews on the birth of her second child today, a daughter they have named Grace Elizabeth Jane. Elizabeth is Aunt Catherine’s middle name.
I predict a flurry of fake bump clutching photos from Montecito starting any old time.
My thought was that, as a client of SS, Michelle Obama was politely told (probably part of a contract) to comment on this lie-fest. Hillary Clinton commented also but Hillary was very much a "I believe her" kind of statement where I believe MO made a statement that could be taken as supporting either side. As in, forgive the BRF or forgive MM for being, well, MM.
Have we noted that according to The Times, Meghan is demanding that her accusers provide proof of being bullied?
This narcissistic madwoman is lucky I am not one of the bullied. I would happily rip her head off daily in the tab press or a billboard or ads in the papers, Or phone every call in programme demanding:
Proof she was married only to Trevor and Harry
Proof she gave birth to Archie
Proof there is an Archie, with DNA taken at an independent lab
Proof she did more than two weeks in Buenos Aries
Proof she got a standing ovation at the UN
Proof she had lunch with MO
Proof she wanted to kill herself
Proof she lives in the Montecito mansion with Harry
Proof she paid for the clothes for which Charles gave her millions
Proof of how she met Harry
Proof she didn’t work on FF
Proof she doesn’t call the paps
Just for starters.
I think SS represents just about everybody
And will she do if there is indeed proof? I learned very early in my career to document everything.
I just checked over on Oprah’s O magazine site to see what the “relaunch” looks like. It looks like the 80s and 90s, and a big push for Oprah films and Oprah books. But.
But.
BUT, a new article topping the list in the right hand sidebar
is titled: These are the telltale traits of a narcissist
https://oprah.com/inspiration/what-is-a-narcissist_1
Oh, yes. Thanks, Oprah.
@MustySyphone,
Exactly! You learned that, I learned that, everyone learned that —- because weren’t sitting home doing calligraphy or on yachts. You know they have documented it. You know Jason K did!
But the point is that even that statement is bullying these women yet again! She truly Is a reprehensible lunatic.
Lol, excellent. They’re coming for her now.
"A narcissist charges through life as though everything they embody—from their ideas to their problems—is a higher priority than yours. Your life just isn't as relevant or interesting to them, and you'll know this by how they constantly steer the conversation right back to their own narratives.
They love bathing in themselves—their accolades, dramas, ideas, and even victimhood. In fact, you may know every detail of their life—from the glory to the gore, but they may barely know your highlights. "You might hear the language of, 'Nobody does it like I can...' or, in cases where the narcissist is wallowing in their troubles, it could be, 'Nobody understands what I'm dealing with...' or they may remind you over and over of how strong they are," says Dr. Ho.
They don't believe in boundaries.
Boundaries? You won't be needing those. "Narcissists see other people as pawns to get to where they want to go. They may never admit it, but they are the most important person in the room and everyone else is just an object to manipulate or a place to dump their problems. So your boundaries mean nothing to them," says Dr. Ho.
When they want something, they expect automatic concession—whatever the day, the hour, or the circumstances. And if you deny them what they want? That's like stomping on an ant pile—because another person's connections, empathy, resources and time are their right to dominate.
If you assert yourself, prepare to encounter their wrath. In fact, it may blow up in a puff of smoke, leaving you confused as to how you suddenly became the bad guy. "When you give a narcissist any kind of critical feedback whatsoever, even in the gentlest way, they bite back extremely hard, acting as though you attacked them or wronged them," says Dr. Ho.
Read more: https://www.oprah.com/inspiration/what-is-a-narcissist_1#ixzz6pEZghOJS
"No Hairy and Yak Hairy" LOL!
Hairy was in lust with MM at the beginning of their relationship, but they never developed a solid relationship type of love between the two of them. I think that the lust is long gone (it never lasts), and they've settled into being business partners rather than having a true, loving relationship. If MM is the narc that we think she is, she is incapable of love, and Hairy just follows along because he's burned every familial and friend relationship he's ever had. His money has been cut off, and he's desperate at this point. He has nowhere to turn. That is, if the funding cut-off from Charles is true. Either way, Hairy is desperate because everything going on around him is beyond his intelligence level.
My guess is that IF they are at Mudslide Manor, they live in two separate parts of the house. Because she's a narc,MM isn't going to or can't continue to pretend in private that she loves him, and she never wanted to take care of him, a 13-year-old manchild.
Maybe we should buy a cheap plastic crown and glue some green plastic "jewels" on it, and send it to MM as a new baby gift? She can then drive around Montecito with the windows rolled down, giving passersby the royal wave.
Someone I follow on Twitter noted that Harry's little song "Just the Three of Us" in the chicken coop was odd, particularly as a former soldier.
I had another look, and in light of the great tea you've all been serving up about Markus, it didn't seem so odd...
Could it be a little private in-joke with Meghan?
And when the world thinks they're talking about the Archibishop of Canterbury!!! Hilarious and awful at the same time if true.
It's at the end of this short clip below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGNHanfhGLQ
"Another M&H lie has now been exposed by CofE. As were the 'Headlines' they faked to smear UK & Press as racist in the Oprah 'interview'. And the lies exposed in DM article "H&M An Inconvenient Truth". The world needs to see these, and other proof of M&H many lies. Many here know they lied. But seems many in US, & world, STILL don't, as they've not seen the evidence being shown in UK, so still believe & defend M&H. M&H lies caused huge damage, division & hurt, to HMQueen, BRF, UK & Commonwealth. Some ppl lost their jobs, others forced to publicly apologise to keep theirs. Ppl who dared question M&H were silenced. These DM Articles, & other evidence, need to be shared far & wide by ppl, on social media, blogs, news platforms. Ordinary ppl need to act, to ensure THE truth (not "her truth") is exposed, and M&H are held accountable for all the damage caused by their lies, deceit & unsubstantiated, serious allegations. Spread THE truth around online."
'Meghan is an American, she does not understand': Vicar says Church of England told him that Meghan and Prince Harry's 'garden wedding' was no more than a 'private conversation' with Archbishop of Canterbury
-Rev Mark Edwards urges the Archbishop to clarify after claims by Duchess of Sussex that she and Harry had private 'garden wedding' have 'caused confusion'
-Claim was made in the bombshell interview between couple and Oprah Winfrey
-Meghan told Oprah that 3 days before official ceremony, they married privately
-But experts questioned legality of the claim saying witnesses had to be present
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9363159/Vicar-says-Church-told-Meghan-Harrys-garden-wedding-conversation-Archbishop.html
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's 'garden wedding' was no more than a 'private conversation' with the Archbishop of Canterbury, a vicar who investigated the matter has claimed.
Rev Mark Edwards decided to look into Meghan's claims because during the Covid outbreak he has been inundated with requests for private weddings which he has been forced to decline
Welby needs to come clean.
CRAIG BROWN: 'My truth is that she bit me first!'... Great Oprah Interviews of our time Part II – Jaws
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9366027/CRAIG-BROWN-Great-Oprah-Interviews-time-II-Jaws.html
"It's genuinely the top school in the country academically speaking."
Eton must have become more selective over the years - the locals used to call it `Slough Comprehensive'.
I rather think Winchester College would take issue over your assertion because it always used to be that money alone couldn't get a boy into Winchester - he had to have a good brain as well. In fact, scholarships meant that money wasn't always needed. Too many holders of the Great Offices of State recently have been OEs; Rishi Sunak, current Chancellor of the Exchequer, is a Wykehamist - moreover he was Head Boy.
Translation:
OE = Old Etonian
Wykehamist = member of Winchester College, current or alumnus. Win.Coll was founded by William of Wykeham (Wickham, Hampshire)
Despite living in Hampshire for years, I never heard the sort of thing about Winchester as I have about Eton, where junior boys had to function as servants to senior ones - and could be beaten if they didn't do it properly. They were known, believe it or not, as `f*gs'.
Eton is the sister college of King's Cambridge; King's used to have a reputation for being, shall we say, `progressive' in sexual attitudes, even before the law changed in 1967, and I've heard stories about goings-on at Eton.
I recall one afternoon on the River Cam , before '67, seeing 2 King's men walking along the towpath, wrapped around each other. A King's Eight happened along as well - the coach had a word with the 2 undergrads. I imagine he said something like `If you're going to do that, at least take off your college scarf!'
Makes you think.
(I should add that I know nothing about New College, Oxford, sister college of Win.Coll at Oxford. Ancient colleges at Oxford tended to be founded by churchmen, those at Cambridge by royalty.)
Prince William’s message to the world: ‘I am Diana’s son too’
The Cambridges are taking control of the narrative after the Sussexes' Oprah interview but the Princes' love of their mother can unite them,
By
Camilla Tominey,
ASSOCIATE EDITOR
16 March 2021 • 5:00am
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-banned-royal-family-23733040
"Meghan Markle was 'banned by Royal Family from getting coffee out with her mum'"
I don't remember Kate and her mother being stopped from shopping in Holt - one of my favourite villages in Norfolk. Although of course they wouldn't be pap strolling ...
There'll be no end to this now. It's the only currency the Sussexes have left in their pockets.
That Fagging behaviour isn't limited to Eton. I had that at my school in Dorset. Never thought it was wierd until i finally made my way into the world at large and every time i mention it i get horrified gasps meanwhile i just find it amusing.
Boarding schools have such strange traditions in their student life. The teachers only take notice if a student gets hurt otherwise they pretend not to notice.
The only thing i will say is that it is exceptionally cruel to be a day student at a boarding school.
All those bizarre rituals, hazing and pranks create an unbreakable bond amongst the boarders and they take place when the day schoolers have gone home. It's almost impossible for the day students to make friends because they are always outside the points of reference.
That's why i had sympathy for Kate Middleton when it was revealed that she couldn't settle down at her first boarding school though the bullying claims were easily debunked because the details were the kind of thing you'd typically expect for a boarder meanwhile Kate was a day student.
"I guess we're in for a steady drip-drip of outlandish stories about Captive Princess Meghan now, languishing like a 21st-century Pre-Raphaelite in the shadow of Windsor Castle:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-banned-royal-family-23733040
"Meghan Markle was 'banned by Royal Family from getting coffee out with her mum'"
This is a direct response to one of the bullying story updates. One of them had a detail that revealed that Meghan wouldn't let her mother go out into Windsor when she visited. The inference was that Meghan's isokation was self imposed and extended to her mother.
It fits with the story about Meghan instructing the workers and tenants of the Windsor estate not to speak to her, enquire after the dogs or Archie.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9594704/meghan-markle-prince-harry-archie-list-neighbours/
Meghan took this story to IPSO, but lost.
However, that doesn't negate it's exam board rankings by results achieved every year for the past few decades.
Within the top 10 exam board rankings, Winchester is present. As are Harrow, St Pauls, Marlborough, Westminster and more. A kid at those other ten schools would be just as academically gifted as the ones at Eton sahs the ones liie Harry who'd only got in via money and conbections.
On the flip side though their exam rankings are middling, schools like Gordonstoun, Bryanston and Millfield excel at sports and are the perfect fit for a sporty child.
It is often assumed they being all-male schools that places like Eton and Gordonstoun are breeding grounds for Homosexual behaviour and of course there are many famous homosexualists who went to such institutions. My own experience was that homosexuality was very rare and that those who wanted to so indulge were a menace and much disliked. They were inherently unpleasant people who indulged their unpleasantness with their predatory behaviour. Given male testosterone and that boarders are at a young age taken away from the bosom of their family, their possessions and local friends and where the only form of physical contact is that of the violence of the Rugby field (followed by a cold shower) it would hardly be surprising if some boys were to succumb to the tender touch of another boy. That however was not my experience.
Don't Make Waves was not a success and was Mackendrick's last directorial assignment after which he taught film at UCLA. Apart from Curtis it has a spunky performance from Claudia Cardinale, and a great script by Ira Wallach from his own novel which I have read and which bears little resemblance to the movie. I almost forgot: there is also a really spaced-out performance from the late Sharon Tate.
At the end of that old documentary made during Harry's two-year gap year, all commentators agreed the army was the best place for him and that his long more-than-gap-year was a mistake. If Harry had stayed in the army I doubt he would have ended up with Meghan. I gather Harry had come to the end of the road in the army, with a less indulgent commanding officer, but given all the trouble and wasted millions he's now responsible for, it would have been cheaper to provide him with his own bespoke little bit of the army where he could play at being soldiers, avoid desks and not get into trouble. Like a sand-pit for grown-ups except that he wasn't. Isn't. Grown-up. Just as officers get seconded into royal service for a couple of years, they could have done a stint keeping Harry company.
Don't waste your tears on Meghan she's a survivor, it's the Queen who needs them COMMENT
https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1410205/meghan-and-harry-interview-oprah-meghan-markle-suicide-queen-latest-news
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9367057/Prince-Philip-99-leaves-hospital-two-weeks-heart-surgery.html
She told Hager that public service was 'a bright, sharp, hot spotlight,' that most people did not fully understand. 'The thing I always keep in mind is that none of it is about us, in public service,' she said. 'It's about the people that we serve.'
A very subtle and elegant way of crushing any hope at a political career whatsoever for Megalo 🤣 Not that any of us believed she was capable of🙄
The law about where civil weddings can take place has been changed so that one isn't doomed to a dingy Register Office with room for only a couple of dozen people. This has facilitated the rise of a huge `Wedding Industry', a way for hotels, historic houses and even farms to diversify.
I imagine that there are many people in England who have only a nominal connection with the CofE who imagine that the same goes for the Church. They don't have to be American.
I'm still pondering current Adult Baptism and Confirmation requirements. I gather Catherine had to be be received in to the Church in the same was as Grab. There's very little on line.
Adult Baptism by full immersion is not that unusual these days but isn't necessary - just the water to make the sign of the cross on the candidate's forehead and the recitation of of the Trinitarian format 'I baptise you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.'
Do you think Grab would have been immersed? The mind boggles...
Confirmation is usually a matter of a bishop confirming a number of candidates by the laying on of hands (ie on the head).
I don't know what the expectations are now for adult candidates - for Confirmation, I was expected to be able to recite the Apostles' Creed, also the General Confession. In Baptism I expect one has to reject the Devil and all his works, just as godparents do on behalf of the child.
Under certain circumstances, in an emergency such as a newborn who is not expected to survive, baptism doesn't even need clergyman - the midwife may do it.
The full service is here:
https://www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/worship-texts-and-resources/common-worship/christian-initiation/baptism-and
I just don't think that this one could even put up a show long enough to campaign. Can't you just see her brushing away aide's hands and saying "do you know who I am???" when being led to a dais or into a studio? And what about dissing the image consultant?
I’ve been saying too: she does not have the stamina for a political campaign. I think it’s part of Megalo’s PR machine: she’s whip smart she can do anything! Plus, a political campaign means all the dirt will come out... POC or not it doesn’t matter!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14355949/prince-harry-spoke-william-oprah-interview/
Lol! Fantastic point!
Hope she recognizes the divorce if it happens!
Can you imagine her political rally appearances — no Megs, just Scobie standing there looking like presidential Barbie, and telling people what he thinks she would want to say, while Gayle stands next to him nodding.
Then in her first month as president, Megs sells everything in the White House on eBay and disappears with the money.
Prince William and Charles 'speak to Harry for the first time since Oprah interview' - but talks were 'unproductive': Meghan Markle's friend Gayle King reveals on US morning TV show that couple told her about discussions.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9367669/Prince-William-Prince-Harry-speak-time-Oprah-interview.html
I know technology has made it much harder to keep secrets, but it has also made people more sceptical of what is real. Society has also become much more blase about self-indulgent behavior which would formerly have ended not only careers, but frequently, lives.
I don't know why the RF doesn't just release the kraken. Let every rumor fly. It will cause a sensation for a while, but a lot of it wouldn't be believed, & people will tire of the story. Will & Kate would look even better in comparison. If the Harkles are banished, people will think it's justified. Oh, I forgot, 'racism' is the only thing that is immoral these days.
I actually don't think there ie much interest or affection for the Harkles in the US. People are mildly interested in whether or not the RF is 'racist,' but I think they're more interested in how the RF & the British establishment handles the accusation. Michelle Obama seems to have threaded the needle in her comment. Both sides can think she's with them. Supposedly, former US presidents get modified intelligence briefings after they've left office. I wonder what the Obamas know?
interestiing how GK is now their mouth piece. shes angling for her own exclusive with them.
but I thought they said no more interviews, they said their piece after the O interview aired.
Of course we know they lie, see O interview for proof HAHAHA and ‘the end’ is never the end with those two. they have their very own fame thirsty “ Real Royalty Soap Opera” going on now..... but they arent getting royalities from it!, the press/media/O is making the money for now. Wonder if JH is Happy now :)
A couple of translations:
`Unproductive' = They didn't give us the money!
`I have the documents...' = Here is the play, - sorry, evidence wot I wrote...'
(ref: Morecombe and Wise)
O/t -but we all need a laugh:
Morecombe and Wise's `Breakfast Sketch':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFgdhZGLJrY
And this is where I’d cease all contact. We all know they can’t be trusted. If Gayle is going to report every time they have a conversation, no conversations should be had.
Yep. Any talks should be private. As they would be in any company or institution or firm. Or family.
Any hint of a leak and no more talks. And here we are.
The Harkles just don't learn, do they.
Maybe PW should slap an NDA on the talks, since the Harkles like NDA's so much.
Notice that she said "everything that she said on Oprah's interview." So telling because if you read the transcript MM doesn't really say anything! She dangles her carrots so Oprah and/or the viewers can fill in the blanks for themselves. Also, she might have emails that she's sent after the fact but I seriously doubt she has anything more than 30 days old. *wink* *wink*
And this is where I’d cease all contact. We all know they can’t be trusted. If Gayle is going to report every time they have a conversation, no conversations should be had.
Sort of agree (grin). I do believe that the Oprah interview was because they (PC, PW, QEII) were not having conversations with them.
I think that we've previously discussed that when people have addicted, mentally ill, abusive family members, they are advised to put them out of their lives and stop enabling their behavior. Tough love. I have seen so many parents and grandparents who have gone through all of their retirement savings and live in poverty because they continued to pay attorneys to get the children or grandchildren freed on charges for theft, armed robbery, driving while impaired, attempted murder. It is never enough. When the person that has been funding them runs out of money and can do it no longer, they often do violence to the person that is no longer able to 'help' them.
I really do think that Harry and Meghan will attempt to completely blacken the reputations of their family members that will no longer fund them. The Oprah show was a warning to "eff you, pay me" IMO.
@Mel,
Exactly — if these two ninnies, or the head ninny, are going to hand Gayle every private conversation (was that part of a deal they will be paid for, by the way?), the royals should cut communications.
And as we know that Megs is probably recording every conversation for lawsuits or use in a new interview or book, Charles and the Queen need to cut communications.
I am delighted that tough old Philip made it home. I hope this is the day he tells Angry Cabbage to ask Anne, William and MI6 around for a chat.
After finding being a duchess too difficult?
After running away from that life because she wanted "privacy"?
After complaining about unfair press coverage?
Please!
just go about your duties, work and family life and ignore the crazy expats in the US.
just send them a Bday and Xmas email/text and call it a day. dont send flowers they will get tossed in the trash, and a paper card isnt environmentally friendly.
We all have 1 or 2 crazies in our families. the general public understands because they have them too. no one wants to see the. BRF involved in daily high school mean girl squabbling.
I noticed that too. It was just Megs spouting threats based on air and eager Gayle using this to grab press for herself. Maybe Gayle hopes to get a bouquet of six half dead £12 railway station flowers like Jessica.
Plus, FF, the book that Megs participated in and that was fact checked by Latham, might contain contradictions, mmm?
I admit I sort of hope M tries to sue the palace. That will finish off her reign of terrorizing the BRF more quickly.
Thanks for listening.
BRF should just keep calm and carry on. don’t complain or explain.
just go about your duties, work and family life and ignore the crazy expats in the US.
just send them a Bday and Xmas email/text and call it a day. dont send flowers they will get tossed in the trash, and a paper card isnt environmentally friendly.
We all have 1 or 2 crazies in our families. the general public understands because they have them too. no one wants to see the. BRF involved in daily high school mean girl squabbling.
True, but I think that they are trying to incite riots and would be happy to sit back and watch it burn. People are ANGRY about the economy, the COVID situation, and I think it wouldn't take much of a spark to set them off.
Yep, it's a `logo' -still a monogram but based on `Archewell' - an A above a W. trying to de-royal themselves in advance of a political relauncg.
Not stripping their titles could have its advantages - for the rest of us.
No Meghan Princess of Wales and no hope of political career unless she does something about the titles. Perhaps HM isn't going to make it easy for her.
And it will. I believe the media sycophants will eat crow. They diminished the very real issue of racism by playing in Meghan’s sandbox—or should I say viper pit. I really do believe the seams are coming undone.
These days, Gayle considers herself a “serious journalist” more than Oprah. So the idea that she was set up to share this petty, supposed-to-be-private family detail on the very morning not just that Prince Philip went home, but also that MICHELLE OBAMA reminded us all, in the context of this Markle debacle, that service is not about those serving, is just shameful for Gayle. Her career should suffer for this.
And it will. I believe the media sycophants will eat crow. They diminished the very real issue of racism by playing in Meghan’s sandbox—or should I say viper pit. I really do believe the seams are coming undone.
It may also have something to do with Gayle's career being rather dependent upon Oprah. She's going to be beating that dead horse for as long as she can. PLUS she's gone heavily into 'racism' to attempt to be edgy and relevant.
It seems like Megalo has sold her soul to OW and KG. She has lost control. It’s OW’s narrative now and she’s on a mission to destroy the racist BRF.
Or she put herself and Harry on the auction block, and OW and GK were the only ones buying. I think she would change her 'narrative' to suit the buyer.
Definitely. Michelle Obama’s statement did them all a serious disservice. It may seem like she did not take sides but she did by using two key words: family and public service thus echoing TQ’s statement.
I have three more grandchildren on the way to spend spring break with us. I was trying to get some baking and food prep done before they arrived so we would have more time for fun things instead of Grandma being chained to the kitchen.
I'll catch y'all sometime next week unless I hear something particularly egregious has happened!
I think OW was the highest bidder too but the deal was sealed before the wedding. I also think that “discreet and dignified Doria” helped in selling the Harkles to OW.