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AnT said…
@JennS,

Absolutely knew the comment content was yours. I promise to make fewer goofy replies once I’ve slept and regrouped here.

Okay, I am amazed by this new info that Warby was on Harry’s case as well.... how are we not supposed to feel suspicious now as civilians?



@KCM1212

Genius additional casting! Angela Davis fabuloius, you know she’ll nail it, and Gilbert Gottfried is crazy perfect! 😍
And the chickens —-Liu! Ha! love love I must actually write this I think.
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Girl with a Hat said…
Curiously,

I'm afraid Deux Moi is quite wrong. Everyone was warned a few weeks before Philip's death that his death was imminent. Philip went home from the hospital to die, not because he had recuperated.
AnT said…
@Curiously,

But.....newspapers like the DM ad the Guardian, and HELLO also, reported “police were called to their Montecito home in as many months.”—-as reported everywhere in April 3021.

That’s more than once. ?

Deux Moi sounds like they are quoting Dear Meg.
Curiously said…
@GWaH

Oh I know. Seems like this was a plant by the Harkles or a sugar trying to change the story, since the other story makes them look bad.

@AnT

I thought that too
Fifi LaRue said…
The Sheriff's deputies had to make a house call because Hazbeen couldn't be woken.
Pathetic.
Drugged/alcoholic and/or high.

Some time ago I read an article about TMZ. They have spies everywhere. For instance, several flight attendants who are willing to spill the beans on celebrities, anonymously of course. It's a few quick, good bucks for info. There could be an anonymous source who's got a police call channel or ...perhaps an illiterate, non-English speaking gardener.
JennS said…
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Martha said…
JennS...quite the tidbit about Warby. Curioser and curioser. Has he been bought? He’s been promoted to the Appeals court, also.

AntT...when I read the deuxmoi piece, I had the same thought.
JennS said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Curiously said...
The day after the TMZ story dropped, this was posted to the Deux Moi instagram stories:

"Regarding the TMZ sorry about Harry & Prince Philip

, it's half false and half true. Meg & Harry didn't know Philip was that sick so they didn't expect he would die soon but when he did they got a call from their last aide in London and since they were asleep it went to the mailbox and they saw it when they woke up. It wasn't a dramatic scene, just a missed call and a message.
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Prince Philip was FRIKKEN nearly 100 years old.

NOOOOOOOOO excuses.

None.

Zero.

Zip.

Nada.
JennS said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ JennS

I have always trusted TMZ sources. They have never been successfully sued.

For that matter, I trust your sources.
JennS said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
*They have never been successfully sued.
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Meaning, in Hollywood, celebrity-ville, worldwide newspaper land, if it can't be sued, it's real.
JennS said…
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JennS said...
Thanks Lt Uhura! I saw someone else write today - I think in the comment section of DM - that TMZ doesn't lie. I wasn't sure if they were being sarcastic since I was never a celeb watcher before.
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Yep.

TMZ doesn't lie. Good marker to be aware of with the Ug-Mo twins going forward 😈
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
*His and Her Ugly Moments
Natalier said…
Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
Blogger JennS said...
Thanks Lt Uhura! I saw someone else write today - I think in the comment section of DM - that TMZ doesn't lie. I wasn't sure if they were being sarcastic since I was never a celeb watcher before.
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Yep.

TMZ doesn't lie. Good marker to be aware of with the Ug-Mo twins going forward 😈

Well, I wouldn't take the things printed there as the gospel truth either. TMZ printed doctored pics of Oksana - the ex-gf of Mel Gibson. The pics incriminated Mel in the eyes of many people.

They also showed a tampered video of Johnny Depp where the incriminating ending was cut off - the ending basically showed that Depp walked out of the room after he pushed the phone down and Amber picked it up and smiled. The tampered video gave the impression that some violence happened after the phone was pushed down.

I don't trust TMZ one little bit.
jessica said…
I don’t trust DeuxMoi at all. They seem to be celeb sugary and def Meg sugary. Their followers yelled at me on a forum defending Meghan. They were pretty crazy IMO. I think it’s run by a celeb or group of celeb friends and/or personal assistant of one or two.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Completely Off Topic,

I have HAD IT with the business of "Kate Middleton."

HOW many years has it been since she and Prince William were married?!

What's next?

"His Majesty King William IV and his wife, 'Kate Middleton,' opened Parliament yesterday.'

Ugh.
Natalier said…
So, what is it?

If they zoom with the Queen and even Philips regularly as they last claimed to on the Corden show, wouldn't they have known about his health? If they had no idea like Deux Moi wrote, then it means all those zoom calls are another big, fat lies from them.

Natalier said…
From Deux Moi:

"..............when he did they got a call from their last aide in London and since they were asleep it went to the mailbox and they saw it when they woke up. It wasn't a dramatic scene, just a missed call and a message."

Let's see, if the above is true, it just shows that Doria is also not living with them. It is highly unlikely that all occupants would not wake up to a phone call to their mobiles. Their last aide would surely have the contact number of the viper's mother since she was supposedly so close to the viper and was in London for the birth, christening and other occasions - which were never proven nor seen by anyone else, btw.
Henrietta said…
The original Blind Gossip item about Prince Philip's dying was pretty explicit about how ALL the family members had been previously told that he was dying. So the Deux Moi instagram story does look like the work of a Sussex sugar.

https://blindgossip.com/they-knew-the-end-was-here/
Curiously said…
@Jessica

I’m a member of the DeuxMoi Moi Facebook group and that is also extremely sugary. I skip any posts about the RF and the Harkles because they are just too aggravating. 😂
A sign the Deux Moi was Meghan- she constantly refers to herself and Harry as an inseperable duo.

'they got a call...they were asleep...they saw it...'

This is exactly how she would talk about herself in the third person. She is obsessed with being viewed as an equal to Harry in the power structure and would want that communicated to a blind blog, PR, or whatever.
@JennS posted that H is reported to be hooked on Restoril.

In UK that goes by the generic name temazepam and is notorious. I've been grateful for it at times, years ago, but found I only need a fraction of a tablet the first night I needed to get sleep, maybe just a quarter. The second night, I'd need more. I never risked more than 3 nights in a row before I took a long break.

Just shows how of how addictive it, and other benzodiazepines, are and my doctor's very reluctant to prescribe anything to help me sleep - not that I have any contraindications. There was a big problem in the UK with it being over-prescribed to those who `needed' it but then passed on surplus tablets.

If the report is true, and it seems likely, the outlook for H is dire. Even if the `medication' doesn't kill him, his brain is in no state for him to see the situation clearly nor to summon the motivation to escape.

Perhaps he does deserve some sympathy, even though his woes are self-inflicted.

I was prescribed Librium when I was trying to deal with my major narc - I used to think `Hell! He's the one that needs it, not me!' but I couldn't bring myself to slip it into his tea. Meanwhile, he threatened to tell my employer I was `on drugs'; he'd also tell me I was `on drugs because I deserved to be on drugs'.
Acquitaine said…
@JennS: Not everything Harkles OR Judge Warby is a conspiracy.

Alot of it is dumb luck and or a wariness by regular people to become embroiled in crazy antics. Judge Warby has expressed his wariness and weariness of the M case on a number of occasions.

However, to keep insisting that it is a conspiracy that he keeps popping up on Harkles' cases is ridiculous given the nature of the court and his role in it.


FYI: Judge Warby has been the principal/ primary Judge on all cases involving the media and communications list. He has had this role since 2017. Here is the Judicial announcement of his appt to that particular court from 2017.

https://www.judiciary.uk/announcements/the-media-and-communications-list/

Quote from the linked Judiciary announcement of his appointment in 2017:

"Mr Justice Warby to take primary responsibility for cases involving one or more of the main media torts (defamation, misuse of private information and breach of duty under the Data Protection Act) and related or similar claims including malicious falsehood and harassment arising from publication or threatened publication by the print or broadcast media, online, on social media, or in speech."

That's why he keeps popping up in the Harkles' cases because they are all media and communications cases in his remit.

Now that he has moved upto the appeals bench, another judge will be appointed to take over the list if they haven't been appointed already.

Further, we don't have that many judges overall. At least not compared to the US. That's why the same judges keep popping up on so many cases depending on the legal specialty of the court.

If memory serves, the court responsible for the media list has only 5 judges at most. So the same judges pop up repeatedly on various cases brought before the court.

Finally, primarily due to misbehaviour of the social media tech giants, EU tightened alot of media and communications laws. These came into effect in 2017/18 or thereabouts in member countries.

Almost all these new laws are absolutist in interpretation with no room for grey areas even if the claimant is a criminal with a mountain of evidence against them.

Any good barrister will invoke these new laws instead of using the old ones which allowed for grey areas. As we saw, M started her case using old laws and kept losing. Following multiple changes of barristers she eventually found ones that understood the new laws and used them. Those same barristers are also working on H's cases which is why he is also winning.

And btw, the Judge can nudge the case in a better direction for the law invoked by the claimant / defendant Barristers, but if those barristers don't invoke the right law to argue their case then the judge can't unilaterally point them to the best laws to win their argument.

Until M's barristers invoked the right (new) laws for their case, they kept losing and were on track to lose. As soon as they invoked the right law, it was a slam dunk.

Further to Aquitaine's post, I gather that we still comply with the EU's GDPR although we're no longer in the EU.

Because the changes are recent, and absolute, there aren't the layers of case law underlying them which in the past gave wriggle room to defendants, dodgy or otherwise. So often, one might think one has a watertight case but then the other side digs up a previous judgement on a similar case that cuts you away at the knees.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@JennS posted that H is reported to be hooked on Restoril.

In UK that goes by the generic name temazepam and is notorious. I've been grateful for it at times, years ago, but found I only need a fraction of a tablet the first night I needed to get sleep, maybe just a quarter. The second night, I'd need more. I never risked more than 3 nights in a row before I took a long break.

Just shows how of how addictive it, and other benzodiazepines, are and my doctor's very reluctant to prescribe anything to help me sleep - not that I have any contraindications. There was a big problem in the UK with it being over-prescribed to those who `needed' it but then passed on surplus tablets.

If the report is true, and it seems likely, the outlook for H is dire. Even if the `medication' doesn't kill him, his brain is in no state for him to see the situation clearly nor to summon the motivation to escape.

Perhaps he does deserve some sympathy, even though his woes are self-inflicted.

I was prescribed Librium when I was trying to deal with my major narc - I used to think `Hell! He's the one that needs it, not me!' but I couldn't bring myself to slip it into his tea. Meanwhile, he threatened to tell my employer I was `on drugs'; he'd also tell me I was `on drugs because I deserved to be on drugs'.

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This is some pretty scary stuff.

I have felt all along H is strung out on something, just didn't know what. Maybe M too, tho she seems to be more functional.

It's hard to pin down people's drug use, but based on past behavior, H certainly bears all the hallmarks of it, whatever *it* may be.
none said…
I don't believe for one minute that all of Harry's issues are because his mother died when he was young, his family was mean to him or whatever his 'whine du jour' is.

I spent some time on youtube watching old videos of Charles, Diana and their sons dating back to Harry's toddler years. It's obvious that something was off about him then.

Harry has been a problem from the very beginning. The family must be exhausted.
Elsbeth1847 said…
Regarding the missed call

I am of the belief that if assorted people have decided Prince Philip was not all that sick, that The UK people were using this as publicity (making it sound worse than it really was) to some how control what was done or not done with the interview -

remember that they have just had over a year where nothing of the big dreams of glory, walking the red carpets, being offered wonderful and glamorous film roles, humanitarian speeches given, their own little royal court -

then it is possible that the view then was this interview is the last big chance to reach out, get support for their spin on the stories and maybe that this interview was also needed as a prequel for the upcoming Apple series. Thus, no one should stop this after everything else which didn't happen to plan and so it all increased the pressure to stay the course?

So IF someone saw the phone ringing/heard it ring then there is the choice to pick it up or choose not to because it is one thing which can be controlled (power over the caller who is not on the BFF list) ... or people are sleeping at that hour and/or the phone is in another room or on do not disturb and no one hears it then that might be other explanations as to why people did not respond immediately.

I doubt that the palace has only one phone number to contact them. It probably has hers, assorted staff, her mother, possible the alleged security company (information exchanged for the transition) and a land line or two (faxes if nothing else).
KCM1212 said…
An interesting take on H

I found this on the Cat in the Emerald Tiara Blog

Part One

Harry’s the Problem. His wife is the symptom. He is the real Diana 2.0 Wannabe…

snifflesthemouse
Since the Oprah interview aired, my whole perspective regarding the spare and his spouse has shifted. It would seem that I’m not alone in my thought process as more and more media outlets start reporting similar stances. Just recently, there was an article suggesting Harry didn’t change; but rather, he is only finally revealing his true self. The more I think about it all, the more I’ve come to the realization #6 is the real culprit behind everything.

I’m not saying that his wife doesn’t have her own agenda or shares responsibility for her part in all this. Her hands are far from clean. What I am saying is it’s finally time for all of us to consider the cold, hard truth. Harry is his mother’s child. Harry is the bad egg, and his wife is only a side effect of the real problem here.

Had it not been for the Oprah interview, I would have never put it all together. The problem with oversharing is too much information gets put out in the public. Most assume PR firms would worry about oversaturation in the press, but the real problem comes from personal interviews they cannot control in real-time. Puff pieces can be edited before publishing so facts and statements align; live interviews cannot. Over time, one of two patterns form from this oversaturation. Consistencies, repetitions, and similarities can be found in oversaturated truth-telling. Inconsistencies, changes, and huge differences result from those like Harry who prefer their trousers scorching hot from bursting into flames from deception. When you consistently lie, the only constant is the inconsistencies.

Now, those of us who have been following these two already know by now inconsistencies and changing stories should be expected. But the Oprah interview really highlighted some interesting things I had previously missed. The interview with Dax Shephard only solidifies my theories. Up until lately, those two have been together through most everything. Very seldom have we seen Harry alone in an interview or speech. There’s never a time where the missus isn’t popping up. James Corden proved that. Then we have the Oprah interview where she was supposed to be the star of the show. But, that was the moment it all changed. That interview was the moment she became the understudy.

Think about it. Who is the one being used in the media lately? Most people would suggest that the impending delivery of child number dos is why the missus is absent. One would then argue the Apple + special with Oprah started production well before the second child was a topic for discussion. The missus is being used less and less on camera or in the media. Everything is all about Harry. Forget about when Harry met Sally; Harry Met Hollywood!
KCM1212 said…
Part Two

Harry is the one doing the interviews, dropping projects, and talking with big Hollywood names. Even their announced Netflix projects are focused on one of Harry’s pre-married concepts. All the wife has going for her is a book that’s only number one in the “Books written by ex-Royals who couldn’t hack it” category. Seriously though, as of this posting the Bench is #2130 on the Amazon Books list, #12 in Children’s Black and African American Story Books, #73 in Children’s Emotions Books, and #167 in Children’s Family Life Books. Being pregnant isn’t a disqualifier for being interviewed. But, apparently being just the wife is.

So, if it was his wife’s plan from the beginning to marry Harry, get him to abandon his family, move to California, and become a big star with a Prince for a husband, her plans have been ruined. And if you think about what she said in the interview with Oprah, you can actually see the moments she told us all exactly that. She clearly tells Oprah Harry was her direct link and source to the Royal Family and everything she needed to know. She didn’t misspeak or misunderstand a thing; she was telling us that Harry’s next to be markled. In every weird answer or revelation where she gave her versions for why their child(ren) were without title, saying they wed three days before the chapel, or having to cry out to HR since Harry failed to help her while she was so depressed she wanted to kill herself and her unborn child… all of it. It was all just the beginning. It may seem like she is attacking her husband’s family, but Harry’s the real target now.

In just a couple sentences, she managed to reveal who Harry really was. Harry, of all people, should (and does) know how to navigate the press. Clearly, he failed to not only help her acclimate to Royal life, but it could also even be argued he set her up for failure for the get go. Let me give you an example. When my husband introduced me to his family for the first time, he told me little tidbits of information he found important for me to know. He essentially prepped me for the meeting so things went well. He wanted his family to like me because he loved me. I wanted them to like me because I loved him, too. So, I took to heart everything he told me. Yet, Harry’s wife shared with the world how little Harry cared about that. She credits Fergie with teaching her to curtsey, google for teaching her the National Anthem, and even said Her Majesty made her feel especially welcomed. So how did Harry not do more? If they started seeing one another in the early Summer of 2016, how is it Harry failed to teach or explain anything to her prior to meeting his grandmother, the Queen, when he had months and months of time to do so? How is it he failed his wife so miserably, she didn’t even understand basic UK custom, laws, or protocols? Why might you ask?

Simply put, Harry is so much like his mother, all he knows is how to play the victim narrative while using the link to the Royal family as a nonstop ATM machine. Many people aren’t honest with themselves when it comes to Diana. She wasn’t the Mother Theresa everyone makes her out to be. Mother Theresa wasn’t a Mother Theresa either, though. Did Diana do some great things? Absolutely. Did she do them only because they were nice or great? Absolutely… not. Diana’s PR team would even have her switch up her charity causes whenever they felt it was getting to martyrdom level. They’d refer to her PR stunts as flavors. Does that sound like an innocent woman?
KCM1212 said…
Part Three

Not to me. This whole time we all have seen his wife as the root of all issues, but she’s the side effect. It’s becoming more clear by the day that Harry searched out her. He wanted someone with the basic Hollywood connections that he could capitalize. Someone that seemed so controlling and ambitious it would be easy to believe they were controlling him, too. Of course he knew she would invite all the celebs she did. He probably inspired that guest list. Instead of guiding her in the press and in British society, he leads her to slaughter. He hides behind her repeated gaffes and wokeness to keep on his own mission.

You see, Harry is obsessed with his brother eventually becoming king, being the “Second Son of Diana” and being the misfit. He is obsessed with his brother and father. They are all he talks about. When you obsess on something like that, it is more revealing than anything you say. Harry’s true motives aren’t protecting his wife and children. His real motive is making a name for himself like his mother did. If he can manage to get some revenge by making the Firm feel some backlash, hey that’s a bonus.

While his wife may think in her mind she will be the next Diana 2.0, the truth is we all missed who really will be. Harry is the one wanting to be Diana 2.0. If that’s the case, then that means the much older spouse for whom there are two children with, aka the wife, would be his Charles. Remember, Diana lost her HRH and titles. And we have Harry being very aggressive and pushy, to the point it seems he is trying to get ahead of a Palace announcement of them losing their titles. But it makes sense now.

They aren’t trying to lose anything, but instead Harry keeps opening his mouth to create pressure in the media. He knows his wife does not want to give those titles back. But if he himself keeps saying outrageous things, then it would put everyone in ultimatum mode. Either Harry will push hard enough that Parliament and the Queen will have enough, or the press will get so critical of the two, Harry will push his wife to agree to returning the titles.

Harry is following the Diana business model. While in the Royal Family, they both were seen as rock stars who had more star power the the Sovereign, which was an issue. Then, they couldn’t take all the abuse, coldness, and inhumanity, so they bolted for freedom. Instead of putting the past behind them, they use the past to monetize grief and trauma in such a way, they become their own brand. Right now, the trauma being monetized comes from the past, but the problem will soon come when that trauma is tapped out. He will need a source of new pain or victimhood. Enters the wife stage left.

The wife is a tool. She of course has her own plans and thinks she is the one in control or the genius. She thinks she is the one everyone wants to work with. But it’s becoming clear to her that isn’t the case and she’s been played by her elite buddies. They all want him, not her. They all duped her for him. If I can see it, and I can see her already finger pointing that Harry is the failure here, then she can see it. And that means paradise will soon be lost in those Montecito hills. His wife won’t go down without a serious fight here. I wouldn’t even be surprised if she eventually causes him to lose his special visa.
KCM1212 said…
Part Four

Overall, Harry hides behind his wife like a beard or shield protecting him from the press’s glaring lens. He lets her do and say whatever she thinks is great so he can keep plotting his own plans. He allows her to take the fall, look stupid, pull stunts people can see through, etc. for a reason. He isn’t completely sure he can make it in his new California life. He knows he can’t if he keeps her for too long, but he also knows he needs an exit strategy in case it blows up. So, he pins the press to attack her as the true culprit. If they split and he has to, he can return home and play the victim of her. If they split and he is doing okay in Hollywood, she can be the reason he plays victim to big named people like Oprah and Gayle.

I can see it now. An Oprah Special with Harry tonight on Apple +. Something cheesy or corny that is almost plagiarism. Like Narcissus and the Prince or something. Watch. Mark my words. Oprah talking to Harry about surviving the marriage while trying to rescue two small kids, being in the spotlight as a Royal while being gaslit by a narcissistic wife… yes I can see the green screen set up now.

I know this is difficult to digest, but I do ask you to try. While his wife is not innocent, she clearly is guilty for her own part indeed, his wife isn’t the true problem. The true problem here is a man who has a serious issue with living in the shadow of his future-King father and future-King brother, and his future-King nephew, that he has chosen to use the same exact attack model his own mother used to merch and marginally disrupt the institution that made her a star. Harry and his mother both wanted the entire spotlight, but both knew they could never have it the way they wanted it. So, they wrote their own victimhood narrative.

And here we are now. Mark my words. Harry will keep pushing until those remaining titles are removed by them forcing the hands of Parliament and the Queen. Or, they’ll push and push in the press so much the outrage and hypocrisy will leave them no other option but to renounce and re-gift those titles and rights to the line of succession. That is what he wants, even if his missus doesn’t. Also make no mistake about it. Harry is the real Diana 2.0 wannabe, not his wife. Keep an eye out. I have this gnawing feeling that soon enough, there will be plenty leaks from the wife about the husband. She won’t go quietly into the Beverly Hills… but neither will he.
KCM1212 said…
Did I make clear that Snifflesthemouse was the author there?


A very interesting take.

It would be interesting if he turns out to be he evil genius.

I do think Meghans role is both overstated and understated.

I dont believe she was ever a true "Hollywood insider". with all the contacts a Prince of the Realm needed to crash Lalaland.

and I think it took the two of them to give him the courage to act

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger KCM1212 said...

and I think it took the two of them to give him the courage to act
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Ding-ding-ding. We have the winner.

If awards were given out for Least Awareness, they'd win every one.

As far as Prince Philip is concerned, rest in peace, why weren't they there on the spot? He was almost 100 years old. Eh, I rest my case.

As for the future, I'm not seeing too much of them in the news. (Thank G-D.)

Thatisall. Carryon.


Grisham said…
Harry isn’t “reported” to be “hooked” on restoril.

Enty, who is rarely correct about royal things (he was correct they were looking to buy a house last summer), had a blind that a A list celeb who everyone knows is “hooked” on Restoril.

At any rate, whether he is on restoril is between Harry and his doctor and his pharmacist, and any leaks from there would be a violation of HIPAA.

What does “hooked” mean? Abuse?

Harry was very professional and lucid and in point in episode 6 of the me you can’t see. I believe he even had on a new suit and IIRC, it was even pressed.
Girl with a Hat said…
@nope,

I remember seeing Harry when he was a child and thinking that there was something repulsive about him. I couldn't put my finger on it. I don't think it was his appearance but something about the aura he gave off.
Miggy said…
The Daily Express ran an article about Lady C's petition today.

I've noticed that the numbers signing are now shooting up!

Royal Family LIVE: Prince Harry under pressure as petition over titles signed by thousands

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1443425/royal-family-news-prince-harry-title-petition-meghan-markle-title-royal-titles-queen-news
Random: I was playing my anagram game during a break in gardening and realised her nickname of me-gain is an anagram of enigma. I thought it rather apt.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger tatty said...
Harry isn’t “reported” to be “hooked” on restoril. ( Fair enough.)

At any rate, whether he is on restoril is between Harry and his doctor and his pharmacist, and any leaks from there would be a violation of HIPAA.( Equally fair enough.)

What does “hooked” mean? Abuse? Yep. I am alleging it. )

Harry was very professional and lucid and in point in episode 6 of the me you can’t see. I believe he even had on a new suit and IIRC, it was even pressed.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Nice one :)
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Girl with a Hat said...
@nope,

I remember seeing Harry when he was a child and thinking that there was something repulsive about him. I couldn't put my finger on it. I don't think it was his appearance but something about the aura he gave off.
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Same here. It was as if he wasn't there at all.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Miggy said...
The Daily Express ran an article about Lady C's petition today.

I've noticed that the numbers signing are now shooting up!

Royal Family LIVE: Prince Harry under pressure as petition over titles signed by thousands

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1443425/royal-family-news-prince-harry-title-petition-meghan-markle-title-royal-titles-queen-news

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@ Miggy, thanks for the share

On a personal note, look at HRH. Sad.
Girl with a Hat said…
two functional medicine doctors one of which is specialised in brain inflammation discuss that depression may not be linked to life events as much as it is to brain inflammation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhxc8dVYBNI

so Oprah and Harry aren't even discussing the latest evidence on mental health.

You may have to deal with a hidden infection in order to cure your depression, in other words.
SwampWoman said…
tatty said...
Harry isn’t “reported” to be “hooked” on restoril.


I have to say that I read that blind when it was posted here, looked up the warnings about restoril, and Harry is pretty much the poster boy about who should *not* be prescribed restoril due to his other problems. Anybody that prescribed that for him should probably lose their license. Then I reflect that Michael Jackson was under a physician's care, so I don't know.

I used to worry that he was going to die here in the USA on his present course. Now I feel that this is probably the best outcome.
@Tatty:

Nowhere did I imply that Harry was having temazepam, aka Restoril, prescribed to him by appropriately qualified medical personnel.

What I was saying was that, despite having at one time freely prescribed, that has stopped within the NHS.

This does not mean, however, that the drug doesn't circulate within the illicit drug `economy'. I can't speak for the States but this is still a problem here. Apparently, it's easily available in mainland Europe and is smuggled in.
SwampWoman said…

Wild Boar Battle-maid said:This does not mean, however, that the drug doesn't circulate within the illicit drug `economy'. I can't speak for the States but this is still a problem here. Apparently, it's easily available in mainland Europe and is smuggled in.

Pretty much all illicit and/or "controlled" drugs are freely available, WBB-m. It would be easier and quicker for me to pick up, say, opioids from a dealer than it would be for me to go stand in line at a pharmacy. (They even stand outside of hospitals selling them.)

I have had to acquire pain meds outside of the legal channels when family members' prescriptions were unable to be filled because their surgeon wasn't on an approved list.
Girl with a Hat said…
In that youtube video I linked to earlier, the physician specialised in brain inflammation talks about someone who was cured of schizophrenia by receiving a bone marrow transplant!

And also, conversely, of someone who received a bone marrow transplant and was later diagnosed with schizophrenia, and seemed to have caught it from the donor!

This is cutting edge medicine!

This is the kind of thing that Oprah should be talking about.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman,

I am sorry you've had to deal with these problems. I think that the medical system in many countries seems to have let down a lot of people.
SwampWoman said…
Girl with a Hat said...
In that youtube video I linked to earlier, the physician specialised in brain inflammation talks about someone who was cured of schizophrenia by receiving a bone marrow transplant!

And also, conversely, of someone who received a bone marrow transplant and was later diagnosed with schizophrenia, and seemed to have caught it from the donor!

This is cutting edge medicine!

This is the kind of thing that Oprah should be talking about.


What I also thought was interesting were stories of the people that got organ transplants suddenly having some of the same likes and dislikes as the person that the organ came from. The Mayo Clinic says there is no proof; the people say that their personality changed. To be fair, it *could* be the result of being hooked up to lifesaving machines and the medications administered.
Grisham said…
WBBM, I wasn’t implying anything you said. My son was on Restoril for years for insomnia, prescribed legally here in the USA.

Ok, we are going to be on the road soon.... y’all have a nice holiday (and is it a bank holiday in the UK also?)

Grisham said…
Girl, there was a segment on using magic mushrooms for treatment. I admit I sort of blew through episodes 4 and 5 given that they got weighty and I wanted to go back and watch one episode at a time with a few days break in between, which I haven’t done yet.
xxxxx said…
More are signing Lady C's petition to revoke titles --- Well her youtube viewership is way up. 5 months ago Lady C would get 30,000 views. These days she averages 200,000 views.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMlk9gp1WNndfOjs0_1gG3g/videos

And new Royal commenter River, who has only been at it for a month or so. He typically gets 100,000 views
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHI8xE-za9g7lUu3JefJQ9Q/videos

Bookworm2 ---- Her views are up --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC6H-xh8UTbcCn5ntESzFFw/videos
@GWAH & Swampwoman

I've seen accounts of slim patients receiving `gut-content' transplants from obese donors & becoming obese themselves - put down to the change in gut flora. The gut-brain axis has a lot to answer for. Sorry, Jenn S!

Just because talking therapies help in many instances, it doesn't follow that it does in all. I suspect physiology in many cases, rather than `all in your mind'.

I'm surprised that H has missed the chance to become an `expert' on the microbiome.

You're right. It's a `little knowledge is a dangerous thing'* - H needs to `drink deep' of current thinking, not of his other beverages.

* `The 'little learning' version is widely attributed to Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744). It is found in his An Essay on Criticism, 1709 and I can find no earlier example of the expression in print:

A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again.


at https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a-little-knowledge-is-a-dangerous-thing.html
Hikari said…
@Swampie,

You have given voice to something I have felt for some time.

There will never be healing or peace for anyone in the Royal Family (including Harry) for as long as he lives. He and TW will be a festering boil on the side of the RF, and by extension, the citizens of two countries unless they are neutralized. For that to happen, they must be separated. This can only be achieved by one of two ways: Divorce, or death. A divorce would be nasty and drawn out thing Allah Amber heard and Johnny Depp/Mills-McCartney. Maggot Would pull out every stop in the book including allegations of physical, sexual and child abuse, Devil worship etc. what have you in order to squeeze every last soy from the RF in a divorce settlement, And even then, she could continue to blackmail them through “the children”. This is still a possibility of course if he dies. The RF would still be obligated to financially support her for the rest of her life, and she could have the glamorous Jetset lifestyle she always dreamed of as “the Duchess of Sussex“, glamorous widow in the Jackie O mold in perpetuity.

Either a divorce, or becoming Harry’s widow would give the RF the opportunity to once and for all force her hand over the paternity/existence of her alleged to children. If she proposes to monetize them as little cash machines for the next 20 years, Let her present both children in a quart room along with the results of an independent DNA test on both children, and medical witnesses testifying to the veracity. Let Megan‘s obstetricians and midwives etc. be subpoenaed. This could be an entirely in camera proceeding, with the results sealed, but the RF has a right to ascertain whether they have been and will be expected To continue to provide financial support for two children his providence is so dodgy and who in fact they haven’t actually ever met, especially baby princess Diana the impending. We’ve only got a few dodgy photographs released by M not BP, As “proof” that any of Archie’s royal family has ever met him.

Whether Harry Is actually the brains in the criminal mastermind behind their current schemes—Diagnosis: not bloody likely, particularly if he is a pernicious drug addict with pre-existing brain injury/mental impairment, he is the shield and the face of their current initiative. They both know, as has been proven over the last three years of increasingly heinous behavior, That they can get away with much seeing as H remains a royal at large. Titles or no titles, he retains for life blood ties to the Crown for The current generation and the two to succeed it. Even in exile by his own choice, even if granny strips off the Ducal title and the HRH, He will always be Harry of England, son of Diana, And he and the wife are going to ride that forever while they continue to agitate and needle and betray his family from afar.

The petition's within a whisker of 35 000 now.
Hikari said…
Swampie, cont


The reigns of King Charles III and King William V Will continue to deal with these festering sores and will not know peace as long as Harry lives. Were he to become a tragic drug OD, Maggot would certainly milk that for sympathy cash and exposure, but I think the RF could more easily shut her down and control her, particularly if they are able to prove that her children are bogus. Without Harry’s protection, she is very vulnerable to exposure as the two big grifter we know she is. She would very likely face blow back for her hand in creating a situation where a known drug addict Vulnerable to his demons felt compelled to abandon his family, his country, and any support system or curbs on his worst impulses in order to follow her bliss in Hollywood and make her happy, not to mention any part she played in providing him with drugs.

I can’t say that I want this to happen, but I am seeing it as a tragic inevitability, and the only question is when. Harry is a tragedy all around, both what happened to him, and what he has allowed himself to become. In the starkest possible terms, the royal family and the nation of Britain, and probably America too, would be more at peace if the Harkles ceased to exist—Both individually and certainly as a unit.
The H&Ms have surely picked up on the existence of the petition by now -

I guess the response is `Not Pygmalion Likely!!!'

Wonder how they've taken the news apart from that?
Hikari said, There will never be healing or peace for anyone in the Royal Family (including Harry) for as long as he lives. He and TW will be a festering boil on the side of the RF, and by extension, the citizens of two countries unless they are neutralized. For that to happen, they must be separated.

I concur. They just won’t shut up, of course publicly could radically fade away as well. 😳 As SwampWoman said I used to worry that he was going to die here in the USA on his present course. Now I feel that this is probably the best outcome. I can see this happening and yes, perhaps a fitting end. 🥺
Grisham said…
For the petition, a week or so ago, I saw Santa Claus, Easter bunny, various characters of game of thrones who signed, so I’m not convinced it’s all 100% real people. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Oh Princess Margaret signed also.
@tatty,

You don’t have to give your real name to sign the petition, but you do need to add a valid email address and postcode. 😁
Grisham said…
I’m not sure about that. The characters in particular left comments. I think Margaret said something like she needed a tipple. Try signing with a made up email and post code and see if you can sign it. I think Ned Stark said winter is coming. I haven’t checked since then to see if any other wise guys signed.
@tatty,

You get sent a confirmation email when you’ve signed the petition, so a fabricated email address just isn’t going to work nor be added as a valid vote. 😂 I’ve signed many petitions and they all share the some validation processes.
Acquitaine said…
@nope said…
"I don't believe for one minute that all of Harry's issues are because his mother died when he was young, his family was mean to him or whatever his 'whine du jour' is.

I spent some time on youtube watching old videos of Charles, Diana and their sons dating back to Harry's toddler years. It's obvious that something was off about him then.

Harry has been a problem from the very beginning. The family must be exhausted."

When Harry talked about genetic inheritance of trauma, my initial thought was that even though he was using the wrong terminology, he has actually hit the nail on the head though he drew the wrong conclusion and picked the wrong sources.

Where genetics are concerned, both the royal family AND the Spencer family ran rampant with emotional and mental problems which manifest in various members of the family to varying degrees.

It's not just plain old Narc traits.

The Spencers in particular have a nasty streak coupled with severe emotional problems that have been manifest in Diana, Charles Spencer AND Johnnie Spencer. Harry seems to have inherited that.

The Royals have genetic diseases either as carriers or manifest. The most recent royal to admit to the family genetic diseases was William of Gloucester who died in 1970. He admitted that he had porphyria the disease made famous as the suspected malady ailing Mad King George 3. It was feared that Victoria had a mild form of it due to her similar uncontrolled rages, but as we know between her and Albert, they manifested all kinds of genetic illnesses on their descendants through their procreation.

With modern medicine and therapies, these things aren't death sentences anymore, but someone with that kind of weakness, raised to be entitled and without boundaries in the grip of nasty plotters like the Hollywood set he has joined......not a good idea.

Incidentally, it's interesting that he deleted Arthur Landon from his set of friends. Arthur is part of Hollywood and M played up to him during the early part of courtship with Harry. The british flag wearing dog on her IG belonged to Arthur.

And now he is deleted from Harry's life.
SwampWoman said…
Way O/T, don't read unless you are GWAH! Girl with a Hat said...
@Swamp Woman,

I am sorry you've had to deal with these problems. I think that the medical system in many countries seems to have let down a lot of people.


Sadly, it isn't just the medical institutions that are breaking down. The supply chains are trashed (try getting a vehicle repair in a timely manner that requires computer chips), restaurants are having problems getting chicken, various canned goods are missing in action from the supermarket shelves (and it isn't because a hurricane is coming...yet). I can't get canning jars OR lids. Builders are having problems with lumber supplies. Husband tried to get a replacement laptop for the one that he dropped, but nooooo. OOS. (He lugged an old desktop up to Georgia.)

I just tried to order a new scythe blade for my scythe, but nooooooo. My blade is out of stock, too. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE SCYTHING? Plus those things last forever(ish) or until you whack a block with them. (I didn't whack a block, the blade is *very* old and running out of metal to sharpen.)
Grisham said…
Oh that is weird, so weird. On the change.org petition

I made up a name Tatty Boo Boo and an email and I put Sacramento and googled the zip. I also made a comments that said “I just made stuff up” and it signed me in and put the comment in as from someone named David Owens and a pic of a lady in a bathing suit. WTF just happened? Did I accidentally guess someone’s sign in credentials? Can you all see the comment under recent comments?
Grisham said…
I’m going to try it again and see (DH is packing the car). I’m going to try and sign under tatty something and leave a comment.
Acquitaine said…
@Elsbeth1847 said…

"I am of the belief that if assorted people have decided Prince Philip was not all that sick, that The UK people were using this as publicity (making it sound worse than it really was) to some how control what was done or not done with the interview -

remember that they have just had over a year where nothing of the big dreams of glory, walking the red carpets, being offered wonderful and glamorous film roles, humanitarian speeches given, their own little royal court -

then it is possible that the view then was this interview is the last big chance to reach out, get support for their spin on the stories and maybe that this interview was also needed as a prequel for the upcoming Apple series. Thus, no one should stop this after everything else which didn't happen to plan and so it all increased the pressure to stay the course?

So IF someone saw the phone ringing/heard it ring then there is the choice to pick it up or choose not to because it is one thing which can be controlled (power over the caller who is not on the BFF list) ... or people are sleeping at that hour and/or the phone is in another room or on do not disturb and no one hears it then that might be other explanations as to why people did not respond immediately.

I doubt that the palace has only one phone number to contact them. It probably has hers, assorted staff, her mother, possible the alleged security company (information exchanged for the transition) and a land line or two (faxes if nothing else)."

In hindsight, i think the initial Oprah interview was the beginning of a PR campaign leading upto the Apple TV docu-series. PR launch starts with M since Harry will end it with the docu-series.

History shows that they always plan these PR launches for a 3month period leading upto a big reveal. They always stay the course of the planned launch no matter how badly the different elements are received. No adjustments are made.

The huge bolder in their plans was Philip actually dying. Whether they believed he was dying or not, they were never going to change their PR launch plans. Any attempts to caution were met with resistance and accusations of Palace trying to derail and or bully them out of their plans.

To that end why bother answering the phone. These are the only 2 people in the world who don't know that a 3am phonecall is ALWAYS bad news and must be answered pronto.

Or as you said, ignored it because they don't want to derail their plans. Ignorance can be useful at times.

As for the Palace's ability to contact them.....i have a bridge to sell anyone who thinks the palace either doesn't have their number and or doesn't know how to contact them.

The delicious thing about this impersonal Palace/ Embassy/ local police method of contact being made public is that it demonstrated to the world that they are completely frozen out and the palace won't deal with them directly. Not even to inform H that his flesh and blood is dead. Just use govt functionaries.

It also kills all those stories and lies about a supposed cozy friendship between the no 6s and the Yorks because even they didn't call directly if this story is true.

And the no 6s are zooming / keeping in touch with various other family members.

Stone cold frozen out.

none said…
Excellent post Acquitaine. Thank You.
Grisham said…
Ok, now my comment is from TT and says I’m showing how this is baloney.

I made up and email and didn’t confirm it. Do you all see that comment and the one from David Owens?

Leaving now, y’all have fun.
Acquitaine said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid said…
"Further to Aquitaine's post, I gather that we still comply with the EU's GDPR although we're no longer in the EU.

Because the changes are recent, and absolute, there aren't the layers of case law underlying them which in the past gave wriggle room to defendants, dodgy or otherwise. So often, one might think one has a watertight case but then the other side digs up a previous judgement on a similar case that cuts you away at the knees."

Exactly @WBBM.

And in M's case, when her last set of Barristers finally hit upon the right (new) law to invoke for their SJ arguments, it was noted that the law had never been tested in a UK court before because it was a new EU law on the books. This case was going to be the first test case for it.

Much of the arguments from all of us, experts and amateurs alike, were using the old laws to predict the outcome and to be fair, if her lawyers hadn't pulled out the new law, the case would have gone the way we all predicted.

For that reason the appeals are going to go the same way unless ANL can figure out a way to out-manoeuvre an absolutist law.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman

you just got me to order the laptop I wanted but was hesitating about buying. I don't want to be caught without a computer.
SwampWoman said…
Acquitaine said: The delicious thing about this impersonal Palace/ Embassy/ local police method of contact being made public is that it demonstrated to the world that they are completely frozen out and the palace won't deal with them directly. Not even to inform H that his flesh and blood is dead. Just use govt functionaries.

It also kills all those stories and lies about a supposed cozy friendship between the no 6s and the Yorks because even they didn't call directly if this story is true.

And the no 6s are zooming / keeping in touch with various other family members.

Stone cold frozen out.


I very much like this conclusion.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ tatty said,

... I made up and email and didn’t confirm it."

_____

And email???
Whatever happens (or doesn't) to H, she ain't going anywhere.

We have previously likened her to a cockroach, in terms of survival ability - some seem unharmed by desiccation (depending on species), starvation, radiation - not sure about insecticide & cyanide!

The only sure way is physical obliteration - jump on them!

She, however, is probably much more risk averse than she reportedly was in her youth (I'm thinking of something Toronto Papers once remarked) and whatever accident befell her (I once suggested that even if she met her end by ignoring advice and heading out in a thunderstorm to challenge the lightning) it would still be the Royal family's fault.

No way would she try hugging a hippo when in Africa with her sistas, either.
Miggy said…
@WBBM,

The only sure way is physical obliteration - jump on them!

Never JUMP on a cockroach. If it's a female carrying eggs... you'll live to regret it. ;-)
Miggy said…
@Lt,

On a personal note, look at HRH. Sad.

If you mean Her Majesty, then yes, very sad.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger xxxxx said...
More are signing Lady C's petition to revoke titles --- Well her youtube viewership is way up. 5 months ago Lady C would get 30,000 views. These days she averages 200,000 views.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMlk9gp1WNndfOjs0_1gG3g/videos

And new Royal commenter River, who has only been at it for a month or so. He typically gets 100,000 views
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHI8xE-za9g7lUu3JefJQ9Q/videos

_____

I have a complete and utter crush on that man, gay tho he is, and straight tho I am.

I do hope he has the inside scoop on things as he claims.

______

@ Miggy,

I did mean H in my post ... in spite of all that has been said and done, I feel a deep sense of sadness for him. Can't excuse him, never will. But, well, lost soul that he is.

And yes, I can't help feel a sense of loss already, for HM the Queen, even before she has passed. She will not have a sense of legacy. Part of that is the times she has reigned, of course.
Miggy said…
@Lt,

My mistake, I thought you were referring to Her Maj.

Much as I try, I cannot find any sympathy for H. He's crossed the line too many times and caused irrefutable damage, not only to his family but also to our country.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Miggy said...
@Lt,

My mistake, I thought you were referring to Her Maj.

Much as I try, I cannot find any sympathy for H. He's crossed the line too many times and caused irrefutable damage, not only to his family but also to our country.
_____

Speaking as an American I can see how you might have assigned one thought to another.

We haven't grown up with the Parliamentary things that you have in the UK.

Thanks for your understanding :)

The thing is, if I were a Briton, and not an American, and if Harry were part of the line of succession for my Head of State, I would definitely say this:

B****ER OFF YOU SON OF A B***

_____

*sigh* .... thanks, I needed that :)
Miggy said…
@Lt.

B****ER OFF YOU SON OF A B***

Hehe... methinks there are many Brits that have shouted that loud and clear!

Now all we have to do is wait for him to LISTEN!! ;-) (fat chance!)
Henrietta said…

Blind Item #4

The one thing the alliterate one wants more than anything is for the children to have titles. The way that would normally happen is when the current royal in charge, passes away. However, the new royal in charge has the discretion to not award those titles. So, why on this Earth would that be the person you tick off the most.



https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/05/blind-item-4_31.html?m=1
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Miggy said...
@Lt.

B****ER OFF YOU SON OF A B***

Hehe... methinks there are many Brits that have shouted that loud and clear!

Now all we have to do is wait for him to LISTEN!! ;-) (fat chance!)
_____

Oh, he has heard it, loud and clear. He knows. He knows all of it, including his phoney Invictus nonsense. He knows he is only basking in the reflected glory of the stellar Palace PR. Which will only last for so long.

This whole schtick of "mental health" stuff? Won't last long. People are too busy living their lives.

So ......... where will the money come from?

😈
@ Miggy and Lt. Nyota Uhura

B****ER OFF YOU SON OF A B***

Hehe... methinks there are many Brits that have shouted that loud and clear!


I suspect rather a lot worse said than the above. 😂😁
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ Raspberry Ruffle and @ Miggy

To which I can only add,

Here's one in your pimply face, you overpriced coward. Boom.
jessica said…
Interesting surgery results:

41% of young britons want an elected head of state and no monarchy, 31% are fine with a monarchy continuing.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/05/21/young-britons-are-turning-their-backs-monarchy

44% of britons want them to lose their titles. Luckily for the monarchy the majority do not, or do not care or have no opinion.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2021/05/17/0b807/3

Harry is also the most popular Royal with millennials at 55% positivity ranking.

Really interesting pulse on the subject.

jessica said…
Survey results, not surgery
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Well, "surgery" works.

But I'm just a Yank.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Hahahahaha, just a bit of light relief from the lipstick alley side of things:

I am already bored about the things to come:

Baby born
Baby name announced
First Baby photo shown
Baby looking sweet
Parents happy
But not for long
New interview about mean RF
New poll: Sussexes less liked than last month
New interview about even meaner RF
Summer Vacations
First Baby Words: Meghan, Queen of Hearts
New poll: Sussexes less liked than in spring
Big interview: Harry tells more all
Rumour: Meghan to become next American president and Queen of Britain and an Oscar for lifetime achievement
Rumour was false
Big interview: Harry tells even more all
Acquitaine said…
@JennS:

"@Acquitaine and @Wild Boar

But - the info I found yesterday revealed that Harry used Article 8 to win his case against Splash News back in 2019 with Warby presiding over the case. I knew Harry had won this suit but did not know he used Article 8 nor that Warby was involved.

Here is the May 2019 article link/headline I posted yesterday:

Prince Harry won a legal battle with the paparazzi using Europe's GDPR privacy law — and it gives the royals a powerful new weapon against the media

https://www.businessinsider.com/prince-harry-beat-paparazzi-using-gdpr-law-new-royal-weapon-vs-media-2019-5

I find it odd that Harry's success with article 8 and Warby's involvement in his case with Splash News was never mentioned at all within the context of Markle's lawsuit with ANL/MOS. I say this considering how repetitive both legal summaries and press reporting can be."

This is completely irrelevant.

The claimants didn't sue as a couple. They sued as individuals. M didn't initially have the same barristers and the different sets she had didn't use article 8 which is why she kept losing the earlier stages of the case. Once she switched to Harry's barristers then she switched to article 8 and won.

Secondly, it's the same Judge on both their cases *because he is always the judge on matters of media and communications*. If the case can be given to a different Judge within his court due to diary clashes or some other external pressure eg covid restrictions on courts then it happens, but as he has primary responsibility for these cases he will always be the primary Judge on all of them no matter who is the claimant or their connections.

It is not his responsibility to point out that the claimants on different cases are related when they don't apply jointly even if they use the same set of Barristers or use barristers who argue the case differently.

Likewise, it is not upto the media to point out these little connected details when they are completely irrelevant to the case they are reporting on. Harry and Meghan's connection has no bearing on cases they filed as individuals. Same with Archie's case.

Ultimately the connection is not relevant to the outcome if the barristers don't make the right arguments.

And it's very noticeable that until M switched to H's barristers and their legal strategy, she was steadily losing her case infront of the same judge.

The connection being left out of media reports only matters to people who don't know our judiciary because as a working member or someone with a keen interest in the courts would know the connection the minute the case was announced.

At the end of the day it doesn't even matter who presides on these cases if the laws invoked are as clear cut as article 8 and the claimant's barristers invoke it.

Acquitaine said…
@JennS: I'll add that H's case was about Privacy where M and Charles's cases were copyright cases. 2 very different types of cases.

Also correction, Justice Warby was ANL's defence barrister in the Charles case NOT the presiding Judge.

A privacy case is not the same thing as a copyright case. Harry using the law for privacy has no bearing on a copyright case even if such a case is brought by his own wife.

The articles on M's case reported on the copyright issues and looked for earlier instances where article 8 had been used for copyright and found none. This point was repeated in many articles. M's case was the first time anyone had invoked article 8 in a UK court for copyright case.

Charles case wasn't won via article 8 because that law didn't exist when he sued ANL. However, he asked for a SJ with his initial court filing so that the presiding judge used the prevailing copyright laws to win the case without submission of any evidence or case going to trial.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Acquitaine said...
@JennS:

"@Acquitaine and @Wild Boar

But - the info I found yesterday revealed that Harry used Article 8 to win his case against Splash News back in 2019 with Warby presiding over the case. I knew Harry had won this suit but did not know he used Article 8 nor that Warby was involved.
_____

I am sorry. Very sorry. More sorry than I can convey here.

All over the world, the legal lights are going out.

Once upon a time, we had an outfit here in the States called the American Civil Liberties Union. They even defended the Ku Klux Klan to have a public demonstration.

Now?

Yeah. Right.

Sorry to be a downer.
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Hikari said…
I’m not sure Harry really does understand the contempt in which he is held. He is cosseted, by the privilege of his birthright as a Prince of the United Kingdom, as Diana’s son, which access to what is vast wealth for most ordinary people, Even now, in his diminished circumstances. Even if he never uttered another peep or was ever seen again in public, he will be a celebrity until his dying day because of being born into the family he was born into. And even with being cut off to most royal access, being reviled in print, and being not in the best of shape either physically or mentally, he is still Harry of England. Americans don’t give a single toss whether he’s a Duke or in HRH. He will always be Diana‘s boy, and that cannot be taken away for the length of his life however long that is. He will be embraced enough in exile, peddling his genetic victim narrative that he will always be able to scrape by with pressed attention and offers, even in England‘s former colonies that technically on paper hate to the system of government which his grandmother represents. He has succeeded in turning himself into a global celebrity in the mold of his late mother, and that’s always been what he was after, Even as he claimed to loathe and revile press attention. He’s gotten used to it, and that’s all he knows. He wanted to have equal star power and money to his brother, the future king, without having to adhere to the code of duty by which the royal family enjoys their privileges. Enter Smeg. She is a wife on paper, and we all witnessed the flashy show wedding ceremony. The children, however they were obtained, are pawns. Neither H nor his paper wife are in the least bit parental—The first born, and now the impending princess are necessary for “Brand Sussex”. It is entirely driven by competition with William. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a third “pregnancy” in short order. Must even up the sides. M claims to be delivering a Princess in the next month—By her own account, she would’ve had to conceive this child within one month of her heart-rending miscarriage Last summer… Late July that was, incidentally around the same time that she would have allegedly conceived “Arch.” Rachel does love her patterns. Perhaps a child was expected via surrogate last summer, to make Archie a big brother just after his first birthday, but the surrogate lost the pregnancy. Make will be 40 on her next birthday in a couple of months time—but she “gets pregnant” on a wish, it seems. All part of her eternally useful and sexy narrative. She will be cranking out fake babies until she’s 50, because along with ambidexterity, she really is just that special.

The 2 halves of this toxic couple have been using each other. H has Paid a very steep price for shoving through this faux marriage. He will be the one to bear the brunt of all of the consequences, including potentially his life. We are exactly one month away from the unveiling of the long-awaited Diana statue. I predict that the next month is going to be extremely busy on Montecito Watch. If Meg hurries up, she and the new reincarnation of Diana, biracial variant, can join H at the statue unveiling! We here will watch with bated breath: will “the baby be born” By then? Will H attend the event in London? Will be see pictures of anything or just cryptic PR releases? Will the palace make any sort of acknowledgment? I’m on tenterhooks I can tell you!
jessica said…
From my limited understanding...

Article 8 trumps everything in terms of privacy.

The copywrite claim wasn’t completely won.

Can anyone answer as to why article 8 matters to the British public considering Brexit?
Pantsface said…
@Jessica - interesting survey results but I do wonder who on earth was surveyed and how many took part, I hate surveys, they cann be manipulated to get the outcome you want. I can only speak from personal experience, having a 2o+ daughter who has had absolutely zero interest in the RF (we are British) until Piers Morgan brought it to a head on GMB which she watches before going to work. Is mainstream media manipulating her? I suspect most people are being maipulated one way or another, most people sadly, can't be arsed one way or another and I think the apathy lets them get away with it time and time again
One tarot reader recently read a quick fourth pregnancy surprise for ‘M after this baby. (Assumes she gets pregnant)
Maneki Neko said…
@Jessica

We may have left the EU but are still bound to the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights)

• Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides a right to respect for one's "private and family life, his home and his correspondence", subject to certain restrictions that are "in accordance with law" and "necessary in a democratic society".(Wikipedia)

• For now, the UK is still committed to adhering to its current commitments to Human Rights treaties and conventions internationally, including to the ECHR (lexology.com)
SwampWoman said…
Pantsface, when I see a *survey*, I know what the results are going to be just by knowing the organization that administered it. Often the way the questions are worded are phrased in such a way as to elicit a certain response.
SwampWoman said…
Sugar/diabetes not Meghan sugar said...
One tarot reader recently read a quick fourth pregnancy surprise for ‘M after this baby. (Assumes she gets pregnant)


I wouldn't be at all surprised if she had fertility problems from a past undiagnosed sexually transmitted infection.

AnT said…
How much do American 20-something young professionals and students like and admire the duo?

A former intern went to a party at venue in a major US city on Saturday. She texted to tell me about the specialty drink some of the guys were ordering there, and everyone was laughing about. I will try to describe it:

In a glass that looks like a stemless martini glass, there is a bright side green drink — a cocktail usually called a “Vodka Slime”. Topped with a little silver metal straw. This cocktail Is served resting snugly in a sort of globe-shaped glass filled with broken ice and another cocktail mix of jagermeister, apple juice, and razzmatazz liquor, and she says this is usually called “A Dirty Wh**e.” But if you ordered this odd combo drink at least there on Saturday, it was called a Harry & Meghan.

Why? “Because they’re such depressing losers. You’d have to be drunk to be with either of them!”

The young have spoken.
jessica said…
@pantsface

At the link it shows who and how many were surveyed. You.gov is legitimate. On one Harry question above they took responses from 5,000 people in the UK.
AnT said…
^^^ bright sick green drink / autocorrect
jessica said…
Maneki,

It’s interesting as in the US they have a right to privacy on their own property, but not in public spaces.

Perhaps this is why we do not see them on the beach of Montecito or out on public. They wouldn’t be able to sue the way they can in Canada and under the European human rights rules.
AnT said…
@jessica
@pantsface


There are roughly 68 million people in the UK as of 2021.

5000 is therefore

0.00735294 % of the total population of the UK

I studied and worked in survey research with one of the top men in the field. He liked to call a national survey sample size like that ^^^ something you can certainly charge a client for and they might be happy, as long as you understand, and make it clear internally, it’s just about like asking the opinion of your granny’s bingo club.

His famous maxim was that the results of any survey are only truly applicable to those who took the survey, and somewhat more useful if they took it seriously and honestly and the questions were impeccably written. He was a stickler and always said Buyer Beware.
SwampWoman said…
AnT said:
I studied and worked in survey research with one of the top men in the field. He liked to call a national survey sample size like that ^^^ something you can certainly charge a client for and they might be happy, as long as you understand, and make it clear internally, it’s just about like asking the opinion of your granny’s bingo club.

His famous maxim was that the results of any survey are only truly applicable to those who took the survey, and somewhat more useful if they took it seriously and honestly and the questions were impeccably written. He was a stickler and always said Buyer Beware.


Yes! While a survey may be administered to McDonald's diners about the food offerings of a restaurant whose average ticket price is over $1,000/person, would it be meaningful or helpful to the high-end restaurant?
Magatha Mistie said…

Twinkle Twinkle Fallen Far

Tinkle sprinkle wife of Har
We all know Just what you are
Like a dealer, keep him high
Careful now, he Just might ...

jessica said…
AnT,

It depends on the survey. Harry + Great Britain won’t need 1mm plus responders.
jessica said…
Out of 200,000 people in a community, sampling 100 would give an accurate result.

It’s also important to consider how many people can be located for a one off survey. You.gov updates their stats and questions regularly
Magatha Mistie said…

@Puds

“Something nasty in the chook shed”
Cold Comfort Sham 😉
KCM1212 said…
@Lizzie,

I've been reading that the Oprah interview caused their ratings to fall to the lowest point ever. They can no longer call themselves the "rock stars" of the RF.

I do agree that a survey can be manipulated to back up the viewpoint of whoever commissioned the survey.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9356101/Harry-Meghans-popularity-falls-lowest-level-Oprah-interview-shows-YouGov-poll.html

H's antics since have created more ill-will towards him: trashing his family on the podcast, criticising the First Ammendment, airing his emotional laundry publicly and basically whining nonstop will doubtless impact the next survey.

I see that you specified Millenials who approve of Harry. That may be, it is his target audience. Millenials would applaud his emoting,and possess much of the disposable income required to fund his extravagant lifestyle.

I am amazed that anyone would approve of H. To me he represents everything that is amiss right now. He is self absorbed, entitled, poorly informed, sanctimonious, weak, dishonest, materialistic and a flaming racist who possesses zero honor.

Lizzie, please know none of this is directed at you. I guess I had a H rant in me that I needed to give in to.

Its my truth. 🙂

KCM1212 said…
oh my goodness

that should habe been @jessica, not @Lizzie

My apologies to you both.
AnT said…
@jessica,

I ❤️ you but I beg to respectfully disagree. 100 people for a survey of 200,000 would never be an acceptable sampling.

Factoring in:

the kind of people who are even willing to respond to a survey

when and where

and how the survey was administered

......will alone make a tiny sample size questionable. You can do it, and possibly places will, for fast money or a cheap client.

But, nope.100 wont be accurate to assess a universe of 200k. Even saying Great Britain “won’t need” a sample size of 1mm actually clicks a survey fail to me, as it presupposes a completely homogeneous sample group.



Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: No, Harry doesn't understand the contempt that a majority of people feel for him. He's on Oprah. He thinks everyone loves and respects what Oprah has to say. He considers himself sitting in the cat bird seat, having made it in America.

@AnT: Too funny about the cocktails!
Magatha Mistie said…

@Puds

Ooooedipus!

From whence the Di’ was cast... 😳

Acquitaine said…
@puds: During the earlier parts of the court case, M's various barristers used data protection laws which have the grey area of fair use and or a right to reply.

ANL's case wS predicated on these grey areas.

M kept losing these parts of the case.

She swoyched barristers a few times who kept losing.

Then she found a new set of barristers ( she went thtough 5 barristrrs in total) who finally hit upon the idea of a SJ using article 8.

At no point earlier haf she used article 8.

Unfortunately, article 8 is completely absolutist in interpretation with no wriggle room.

It says copyright is absolute in all circumstances even if the clsimant is a criminal with a mountain of evidence against them.

That is why M won.

ANL are appealing it on the grounds that they have a mountain of evidence and it should have gone to trial. If they win their appeal, we get a trial. If not, that is that.

If they win, it also adds wriggle room to article 8 for future cases because it sets aside the absolutist interpretation of the law.
Acquitaine said…
@JennS: Again, i'll repeat.

M's case may have been about privacy and copyright, but when they first submitted it to the court, they invoked the data protection laws and copyright laws which allowed for grey areas such as fair use and public intetest.

ANL was able to mount their case based on this grey area written into those laws.

Article 8 of the Human rights code specifically deals with a person's human right to privacy under all circumstances. This includes any correspondence, pictures, communications etc. It's much more detailed than the data protection law.

Until Meghan used it to argue that her HUMAN RIGHTS were violated by the publishing of this correspondence, her case was very weak based upon the data protection laws.

Once she invoked HUMAN RIGHTS, ANL's case was dead in the water because that is what it does ie trumps all other laws.

Furthermore, she didn't invoke this human rights privilege until her summary judgement application.

Prior to that she lost every hearing that was held and had to pay out court costs to ANL each time. I think that totalled £179K before she finally hit upon the magic strategy of Summary judgement and human rights.

When i say that she won, i mean that she won on a technicality not that she had better arguments or Judge Warby was beguiled by her. Frankly if not for that pesky human rights law used in that manner, ANL had a very good case for fair use as well as a good amount of evidence that she invaded her own privacy.

Everyone who followed this case including thr UK media and much of the judiciary were outraged at the result, but unfortunately it was the use of that pesky human rights law for a summary judgement in a copyright case that had swung the case to M's favour. It was widely reported that this was the first time in the UK anyone had used that particular law for a case about copyright and data protection and privacy even though the entire Human rights code had already been incorporated into UK laws for a couple of years.

H won his case for privacy using article 8 because his was a straightforward case of privacy and the article fit it perfectly.

M using it for copyright was a first. It was widely assumed that artivcle 8 could only be used for privacy cases, but if you drill into it and see the extra wording about absolute privacy that includes CORRESPONDENCE then it's a loophole that can be applied to copyright. That is something M's previous sets of Barristers didn't figure out. It took her 5th barrister to see the loophole and apply it accordingly.

Finally, Warby did not represent PC. He represented ANL in a case brought by PC.
41,500 + signatures as of now, still rising.
@Magatha & Puds,

Loves Mummy, hates Daddy - when does he `gouge out his eyes'? (a la Sophocles) - or has he done it metaphorically already, in that he can't `see' what's going on?
Maneki Neko said…
This is from an Australian women's magazine, New Idea (seen in Newzit). I've never heard of it so I can't vouch for the veracity of the claims - Magatha, have you heard of it?

Apparently, our couple is not getting on at all and the Hollywood dream seems to be fading. M is 'freaking out' and Doria is now H's only friend. Maybe this is just idle gossip.

https://www.newidea.com.au/meghan-and-harry-explosive-fight-claim
Miggy said…
@Maneki,

Would be interesting if that article was true... but I don't understand why they mention Finding Freedom in it.

Meanwhile, it’s believed Meghan is still pushing for the biography about her and Harry and her life as part of the royal family, titled Finding Freedom, to be released now instead of later in the year. “She wants her truth to be told and to set the record straight.”

Don't get that at all!!
Maneki Neko said…
@Miggy

I missed that paragraph (it's the last one) and couldn't understand it, neither could I understand the mention of Finding Freedom 'to be released now instead of later in the year'. I looked at the article again and it's dated 1 June 2020... 🤦🙄
JennS said…
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@Maneki Neko -

Er, I'm not sure about the truth of this but the comment about FF is odd - perhaps it's an old report? New Idea's online presence doesn't seem very up-to-date. Unless my eyesight is worse than I thought, the date on the frontpage that comes up is 2020.

What a pity.
KCM1212 said…
That must be an old article (although I couldn't find a date). That was exactly the phrasing used last spring before FF came out and Lady C's book was released.

Was that just last year? They sure pack a lot in.

I wonder when FFII will be released. If ever.
Opus said…
It was suggested above by Acquitane that England has a shortage of Judges and by way of proof that the Media and Communications list is handled by a mere five of the Judiciary. Whereas I do not seek to dispute Acquitane's figures I would like to suggest that perhaps she is not seeing the larger picture.

We are talking of the High Court (there is a lesser court - The County Court and of course the Court of Appeal and above that the Supreme Court - which we used to call The House of Lords) which is divided into three sections, the QBD (Queen's Bench Division), Chancery (the court of equity) and Family (what was once the PDA).The Media and Communications List is in the Chancery Division but there is a lot more than that to Chancery. The Court is housed in The Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand but legal cases have so much increased that additional court room space is hired in adjoining buildings and that not withstanding the building of an extension to the RCJ. Cases can of course be heard and frequently if not a majority are heard outside of London - these will be cases that start out in the district registries of the High Court.

The problem for a Judge is often that he has no idea (any more than do Counsel) as to what the case when dealing with technical matters is really about, hence the specialisations not just as to Division but within Division. You may say 'but what of expert evidence'; problem is: what does the Judge do when both sides have seemingly convincing experts.

I know nothing of The Human Rights Act but it is truly shocking that not one Barrister or Solicitor pleaded breach thereof before one of their number decided that an appeal for Summary Judgement would be a good idea - or perhaps not. The Human Rights Act sounds to me very much law for the super-rich and no one else.
KCM1212 said…
@JennS

Oh dear, surgery? Please just take a break and recuperate. We need you! And please take good care of yourself. Will you let us know the surgery went well and you are healing?

You will be very missed, my dear.
KCM1212 said…

@Maneki
Oops. Didnt refresh before commenting. You had already responded (and found the date!)

Sorry!
KCM1212 said…
As did WBBM!!

One day I will learn. 😊
Opus said…
Addenda

I should have explained that I was talking merely of the Civil Courts; the Criminal Courts (The Crown Courts most famously the Central Criminal Court - The Old Bailey) and the lesser Magistrates Court which on further appeal will go to the Court of Appeal. Then there are the vast number of Tribunals.

There are (though it is a long while since I last had occasion to see the list) or were, approximately one hundred High Court Judges (Red Judges) divided fairly equally between the three divisions. I may be completely out of date.
Maneki Neko said…
KCM1212 said

Oops. Didnt refresh before commenting. You had already responded (and found the date!)

Sorry!
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No need to apologise. I've done the same several times...
Acquitaine said…
Opus: My comment re: no of Judges was in comparison to the no of Judges in the US.

Further, the 5 Judges are for a specific court rather than to the overal court system of the division that holds the court.

This is why you see the same Judges pop up time and time again on the cases presented in that specific court.
Miggy said…
@Maneki,

Thanks for confirming that it's an old article. I did briefly look for a date but couldn't see one and then got side-tracked by something else. :)
I had refreshed - but it made no difference!
Acquitaine said…
@Miggy said...
"@Maneki,

Would be interesting if that article was true... but I don't understand why they mention Finding Freedom in it.

Meanwhile, it’s believed Meghan is still pushing for the biography about her and Harry and her life as part of the royal family, titled Finding Freedom, to be released now instead of later in the year. “She wants her truth to be told and to set the record straight.”

Didn't Scobie say he is re-releasing a new version of FF with updated chapters that will include everything revealed since original was published?
AnT said…
@JennS,

Just read that you are facing major surgery, and I am very concerned. Sending you all good thoughts and prayers. When you can, though rest and recuperation are more important, please let us know how you are doing. You will be hugely missed. To echo @KCM1212, I can’t imagine this space without you, really, Your knowledge, wit, kindness and cheer are always amazing. 🥺

But rest and self-care matter most.🙏🏻 You are in my thoughts. Must say, though, major surgery is a heck of a way to shake your interest in the Harkles! Couldn’t you just look at a big photo of her feet🦶🦶 every morning before you reread The Bench?)

HOWEVER....if “major surgery” is actually a few bikini season tweaks and you will be recovering on the beach with Hot Rob bringing you fruit drinks and arranging a teak cabana with linen drapery for you on the Montecito beach, then.....we’ll, ok. 💋

Be well. You are a star.❤️✨

.
Miggy said…
@Acquitaine,

Didn't Scobie say he is re-releasing a new version of FF with updated chapters that will include everything revealed since original was published?

I seem to recall something along those lines but what proves to me that it is indeed an old article is the mention of the length of their marriage.

But despite now living in the lap of luxury in a $27.5 million Beverly Hills mansion, an insider alleged the Los Angeles move has caused strain on their two-year marriage.
Acquitaine said…
Opus: The Human Rights code is really shocking. And it's been used very effectively by all sorts to win their cases. The most ergregious uses tend to be the criminal kind. The most famous of which is that hook terrorist ( terrorist with hooks for hands) who used it to evade extradition to USA for nearly a decade.

That's why it was such a central tenet in the arguments for Brexit. Sadly, when Theresa May was PM, one of the concessions she made was that we'd keep all the EU laws already codified into UK law util the day we actually left.

That means many of these laws are now part and parcel of our system.

When M's case came up, everyone was reading up on copyright laws, data protection laws, privacy laws etc. I think i read only one case review where a student lawyer argued that this should be a Human rights issue.

Eventually when article 8 came up, no one took it seriously precisely because it had never been tested in a UK court. There was every chance that Judge Warby would go along with precedent.

Sadly, M's lawyers argued for an absolutist interpretation of it and here we are.

....but it is like Harry said on his podcast,you can find loopholes in anything. Implying that loopholes should be exploited at all times.
Acquitaine said…
@ Miggy: Gotcha.😊😊
LavenderLady said…
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/525338-harm-prince-philip-woke-university/

Just popping in to share this article from RT.com. Looks as if wokeness has penetrated King's College London.

Apologies if already posted.

Take care all.
AnT said…
@JennS,

I happen to be looking at the Shulman article on your A Cache of Clues blogspot blog today —- thank you again for creating that amazing library of information for us. It is so extensive, I am freshly astonished. What a lot of work you did.

@LL - Absolutely ridiculous!!! College authorities should have stood up to the whingers. I expect they were afraid of riots.

------------------------------

re ECHR - our betters repeatedly told us that ECHR predated EU/EEC etc (true) and was nothing to do with EU ...

Ha Bloody Ha.

They're all rolled up in the `Council of Europe' - see:

https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Convention_ENG.pdf

Can't get a cigarette paper between 'em.
Maneki Neko said…
@JennS

Sorry, WI missed the bit where you say you are preparing for major surgery. Hope all goes well. Take care. All the best from across the pond x
WBBM and Lavender Lady

I saw the story in the DM a few days back. Truly shocking re Kings College and it seems to be following suit and following a nasty and horrible trend with other Universities.🥺

@Acquitaine and WBBM The ECHR is one of the worst acts ever, overused and abused by anyone wanting to get away with anything including murder. 😦😠
Maneki Neko said…
OT

@Acquitaine

Re Human Rights 'The most ergregious uses tend to be the criminal kind.' Yes, the law protects criminals. I think one of the most absurd 'rights' is the right to a family life that has been so exploited. Surely the family of a criminal facing deportation can follow him (always a male) back home? You may remember the worst case which was the Bolivian due to be deported but who couldn't be deported because of the same human rights - in his case, 'family' meaning a cat.

@WBBM, @LL

I know, so ridiculous about King's College (London). These days, the poor bleeding heart liberals are usually 'traumatised', not merely upset, and the person causing the upset has to apologise. Pass the smelling salts.
Happy Camper said…
Hikari said...
It is entirely driven by competition with William. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a third “pregnancy” in short order. Must even up the sides.

@Hikari, As soon as Harry said he and M were going to have only two children (he said this before Archie was born), I thought, “Yeah buddy, that’s what YOU think.” I have always thought that Meghan will try to find a way around their “decision” to not overpopulate the earth and only replace themselves.

If she is actually able to get pregnant and carry a child to full term, I can easily see her going through IVF again behind Harry’s back and making him think it was an unplanned pregnancy that happened via a natural conception. She will also go for twins and claim she’s one of those cases where older women often have twins.

I put absolutely nothing beyond her cunning ways.

Happy Camper said…
Magatha Mistie said...

Twinkle Twinkle Fallen Far

Tinkle sprinkle wife of Har
We all know Just what you are
Like a dealer, keep him high
Careful now, he Just might ...


@Magatha: Have you been named poet laureate of this blog yet? You should be!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
@ JennS xxxooo

_____

Okay. So.

This.

https://www.newidea.com.au/meghan-and-harry-explosive-fight-claim

*drawing deeeeeeeep breath* ........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

_____

Firstly, let's just say there will be NO lawsuit against these people.

.....mmmmm.....beee-cause ..... IT'S TRUE ...... and if not, OUR LAWSUIT QUOTA HAS WORN OUT, money dried out, so solly, (hahahahaha)

_____

All right, o-KAY, getting control of self ...

Let's just share a few bons mot:

But an insider revealed to New Idea the Sussexes’ move to LA has completely backfired, and as a result, the pair are struggling to get along behind closed doors.

“Things are bad,” the insider claimed. “They fight and bicker constantly.”


(an "insider." Don'tcha love it?? LOL)

______

According to the insider, the problems stem from the hopes Meghan, 38, had of being warmly welcomed back into Hollywood life and her belief that the red carpet would be rolled out – literally – upon her return. This, however, hasn’t panned out due to the pandemic.

Sure, Jan.
_____

All right, all right, the final word!

“She feels extremely slighted that it hasn’t worked out that way, coronavirus shutdown or not,” the source said. “Meghan is the type of person who thinks nothing can get in her way, even a global pandemic.”

_____

drawing deepest breath ever possible in the annals of humanity

...............

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Phwoah. *sigh*

As G-D is my witness, I will never be a journalist on this caliber, NEVER, as long as I live. I will be reincarnated and dream of it.
Henrietta said…
"Meghan Markle 'fearful of losing Duchess title' after Harry's 'truth bombs'"

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-fearful-losing-duchess-24225634

"A source close to the former Suits actress told heat magazine that Meghan is worried about losing her title after Harry's recent revelations about his family."

"She's told Harry that they need to tone down the attacks on the royal family - she's afraid they'll take away their royal titles, which would be a PR disaster."

Oh, go ahead, H. I'm right behind you!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Henrietta said...
"Meghan Markle 'fearful of losing Duchess title' after Harry's 'truth bombs'"

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-fearful-losing-duchess-24225634

"A source close to the former Suits actress told heat magazine that Meghan is worried about losing her title after Harry's recent revelations about his family."

"She's told Harry that they need to tone down the attacks on the royal family - she's afraid they'll take away their royal titles, which would be a PR disaster."

Oh, go ahead, H. I'm right behind you!
_____

Dang it @ Henrietta, just when I thought I was recovering from the Australian news story, LOL
Miggy said…
New Lady C video.

MEGAN MARKLE CRIMINAL CHARGE/Harry's untrue truths/cons/Nazi press/BBC needs investigating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5qKta9INOA
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Right.

While it is quiet in here, I will shout to the rafters :) Why not? Everyone is probably making dinner, lunch and so on.

Here is a nice conversation exchange from LSA:

AuntJane said:
Harry and Meghan each used each other as stepping stones. For Harry it was setting himself up as an independent royal - the people's prince, and funded accordingly, out of the reach of his brother particularly.
______

(If I am being too obnoxious, @ Nutty Flavor, I apologize.)

For Meghan, it was setting herself as a Princess Diana/Angelina Jolie/Michelle Obama hybrid, eternal A-list, a name worth millions, an eternal platform to monetize and since it's "royal" the ability to pivot anywhere and grab any buzz anywhere. Not contained by any one sector - the top of the totem pole in every sector. I think that's how she envisioned it. She did hustle her way to where she is by getting in with two other hustlers, and I don't think she has taken on board all that she lost and all the ways she failed, so she learned nothing along the way.

Montrealaise said:
The trashing escalated after Megxit, culminating in the Oprah super trashfest, and I believe they did that for revenge, furious that the Queen rejected their half-in, half-out proposal, and that PC told them that no, he was not going to financially support them for the rest of their lives.

Fruitjelly said:
I don't actually believe that Charles said he would no longer support them at all - I think he said he'd reduce their allowance as they were choosing to drop out of the Firm. I bet he was still sending them more than most people earn. Money for doing nothing. Not a bad deal. But H is greedy and entitled.

All of this. They wanted to be able to finesse their way into (literal) Hollywood royalty, but didn't have the skill level to pull it off.

Example - I believe all the talk about media invasion and privacy was to justify asking for tons of money for "security" (whether it cost quite that much or not). They figured if they portrayed a big enough threat, they could ask for whatever amount the wanted.

The problem is their behavior afterward completing contradicts having a problem with the media. They have courted the media non-stop for exclusives and "deals." Plus Harry couldn't provide real evidence that Meghan was being "chased" or whatever. So it just makes them look disingenuous. They didn't have the skill level to pull it off.
@Henrietta @the Lieutenant

- Just keep clinging to the Certain Knowledge that she never does as advised - she always knows best.

Go Harry - don't stop the carnival!!!

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
@Henrietta @the Lieutenant

- Just keep clinging to the Certain Knowledge that she never does as advised - she always knows best.
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Once more into the breach! :)

(Or 10 times! )
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Well!

While I am enjoying myself here in splendid quiet, let's share some more bons mot.

_____

How about this one from Aunt Jane at LSA?

I'm still pissed at the Queen for making him an "honorary" major after he flounced out of the military rather than sit for the Major exam. I don't care that it's supposedly difficult. We were always told Harry was the idiot savant of Apache helicopter piloting and had an exceptional aptitude for service.

Me and you both, Sister.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Lt. Uhura and @Henrietta: Thank you for the juicy tidbits.

We all knew TW thought she'd rule Hollywood, and be invited to all sorts of galas, Oscar parties, etc.
Except neither one has talent, exceptional personality, charisma, intelligence, nor outstandingly attractive physical features that would set them apart, and elevate them.
Hazbeen can't even clean up, and get dressed properly. In fact, neither one can clean up and get dressed.
They couldn't even get the Duck Rabbit kid cleaned up and dressed.

Their combined talents consist of whining on a world stage, trashing their respective families, sueing right and left, making threats of revealing "truth bombs," lying, and advertising their own poor mental and emotional health.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Ah news reports that meghan wants to be the peace maker:

Wife: Harry you need to keep pounding it home how bad they treated us i mean you how dare they you are a prince of the realm. The queen i mean king of hearts. you wont be happy again until you are free - of them yes fee of them

Wife: Harry how could you say all those terrible things. They are never gonna pay us and let us keep ours i mean your title. you will never be happy again as Just H. You will be a nobody and our dolls i mean kids will be nobody. I have been a nobody, you dont understand.

and so goes the sands of time as these are the days of their lives
Hikari said…
@HappyC, quoting New Idea:

According to the insider, the problems stem from the hopes Meghan, 38, had of being warmly welcomed back into Hollywood life and her belief that the red carpet would be rolled out – literally – upon her return. This, however, hasn’t panned out due to the pandemic.

Sure, Jan.


Ed. note: Look at the sneaky thing that was done there . . a year shaved off her age. Somebody at NI slipped up in Mugsy's favor or else is taking dictation from Mugs herself. Rachel dearie, presuming your birth certificate isn't a lie, you are going to be FORTY in 2 months and 3 days from this writing. Some people are convinced that you were '35' for at least 4 consecutive years. Had you remained an obscure game show slut, you could have fudged your age but one of the drawbacks to being a globally-known DUCHESS is, everyone knows how old you are. Or how old you are supposed to be.

Now--not to be a pedant, but in order to be 'WELCOMED BACK' somewhere, you had to be WELCOME originally. Which you manifestly were not, hon. The best you could manage, besides all the failed auditions that made you take to your bed for days clutching a bottle of plonk from the bodega was half a season prancing in your slip with a briefcase. Now, a lot of girls might consider that success but not you. It's still steaming your bacon that they relegated you to #24, in the back. Is that why you didn't finish the season? Thought you were on to bigger and better. Hollywood didn't know you existed, which is why you had to go live in the frozen north for half the year and tape your paralegal slut scenes there. Hollywood never wanted you, so why did you think collecting a dim British prince for a paper husband would make it want you back? You are just as talent-free, shiftless, mean and unattractive as you were when you left.
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All right, all right, the final word!

“She feels extremely slighted that it hasn’t worked out that way, coronavirus shutdown or not,” the source said. “Meghan is the type of person who thinks nothing can get in her way, even a global pandemic.


Do we need any more proof of the size of the delusions on this piece of work? She's spent her entire whiny, ugly, nasty grasping little life 'feeling slighted' . . who exactly is she 'blaming' this time for her grandiose dreams of iconhood falling into the toilet? Blame the virus, sweetheart . . it neither knows nor cares who you are. What a shame it missed paying a visit to your house, I say.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Hikari said...
@HappyC, quoting New Idea:

According to the insider, the problems stem from the hopes Meghan, 38, had of being warmly welcomed back into Hollywood life and her belief that the red carpet would be rolled out – literally – upon her return. This, however, hasn’t panned out due to the pandemic.

Sure, Jan.

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Just so you all know, @ Hikari inhabits the rarified universe of They Who Must Be Listened To :)

_____

Nice to see she has quoted me :)

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All right, all right, the final word!

“She feels extremely slighted that it hasn’t worked out that way, coronavirus shutdown or not,” the source said. “Meghan is the type of person who thinks nothing can get in her way, even a global pandemic.”

Do we need any more proof of the size of the delusions on this piece of work? She's spent her entire whiny, ugly, nasty grasping little life 'feeling slighted' . . who exactly is she 'blaming' this time for her grandiose dreams of iconhood falling into the toilet? Blame the virus, sweetheart . . it neither knows nor cares who you are. What a shame it missed paying a visit to your house, I say.

Ouch, oof, ugh, hahaha, gimme a thank-ya, hahahaha.

OOOOOHHHHHH, dang, will live on these yuks for yonks ...... *wink
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikarisaid


Ed. note: Look at the sneaky thing that was done there . . a year shaved off her age.
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Did you not see my posts? I mentioned the article in New Idea but realised afterwards that it was dated 1 June 2020 - unless it's a misprint - and explained my mistake ina subsequent post. So officially at least, M was 38 last year and 39 this year.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Hikari said .... Blame the virus, sweetheart . . it neither knows nor cares who you are. What a shame it missed paying a visit to your house, I say.
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Something I wish I could have said. Till the end of time.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Snarky
@Hikari

Neither one of you takes any prisoners! LOL!!
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Maneki Neko said...
@Hikarisaid


Ed. note: Look at the sneaky thing that was done there . . a year shaved off her age.
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Did you not see my posts? I mentioned the article in New Idea but realised afterwards that it was dated 1 June 2020 - unless it's a misprint - and explained my mistake ina subsequent post. So officially at least, M was 38 last year and 39 this year.
______

Yer a sneaky one, Maneki yerself, LOL

Our M will be 39 till G-D has his second child, LOL
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Fun to watch those who attribute thoughts to me, who are actually attributing thoughts to ME who are following others' trains of thought. I like contributing. Once in a while, I like getting the credit. Other times, it's all okay :)

It's all good :)
Hikari said…
@Maneki,

No, I didn't see your posts, sorry.

I find it very difficult to scroll to previous pages once we approach 600 posts, and for the last several weeks, I have only been a drive-by poster.

Ok so I am corrected. But shaving a year off her age is a totally Meg thing to do, n'est pas? Now that she's '4-0', she is REALLY not going to want to acknowledge any more birthdays.
Hikari said…
Just a suggestion for proper attribution of your posts/ideas--

Lately I've been noticing people adding their thoughts to long strings of quotes from previous posters, sometimes 3-4 previous people. It is hard to determine who the post author is and who they are speaking to/quoting. If you are going to quote multiple people in one post with your thoughts at the end or sprinkled in between maybe bold those sections or insert your name in caps or something as the one speaking.

I prefer consecutive posts to the nested variety in terms of being able to follow new material, but it is more difficult this way to know instantly who is responding to whom unless the replies are well-marked to differentiate between/among speakers.
Jenn S-

I wish you all the very best for your operation and hope you recover quickly.

Be kind to yourself, so no heroics. Takes as long a break from the Harkles as you need.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
*Liking JennS about as much as I can for someone I don't know online*

@ Jenn S .... xxxoooo

You are loved. That should make you happy :)
Coronation Day - 68 years ago.

What a day that was! Such a pity about the weather.

hunter said…
😮 🤭 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

Just came past JennS's comment asking people to stay on topic after the loose magnesium stools and I have to say it cracked me up given that I've posted similar in the deep past.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Never to be forgotten .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJEUtX2_GwI

Nor THIS, for us Yanks :) .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q2fTSo8aoY

:D
hunter said…
I've previously not been a Candace Owens fan but there are a couple areas I agree with her and I've really enjoyed her comments on the H&M fiasco. Bigtime.

Per Hikari's earlier post about the entire squadron of Archies we've now been presented with - back in the day when he was still Darren-sized, I felt like we were working with roughly three babies.

Then we got Tutu Archie and DuckRabbit Archie (who I believe to be the same) who may also be Christmas Card Archie v1.0 (smiling on carpet). Then of course we got the little girl photo with the water backdrop...

But maaaannnnnnn.... this year? I feel like we are dealing with somewhere like 4-5 little tykes who have been stand-ins of some kind. It's nuts AND - when was the last time Harry was photographed w/ Archie? Almost never, seems weird.
Henrietta said…

TUESDAY, JUNE 01, 2021

Blind Item #2

It appears that the alliterate one got one of the US tabloids not named Kneepads on her side. A recent cover has a headline that just so happens to be a title that is registered and owned by one of their employees. If that movie was made, there would never be a chance for redemption.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/06/blind-item-2.html?m=1
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger hunter said...
I've previously not been a Candace Owens fan but there are a couple areas I agree with her and I've really enjoyed her comments on the H&M fiasco. Bigtime.
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Well, Ms. Owens is actually a citizen of our United States. However people want to present her as an Aunt Jemima. Pretty racist.

I would go further, but won't.

Thanks @ hunter.
SirStinxAlot said…
I think H$M would have gone apocalyptic sooner if it had not been for the pandemic. They would have worked the Hollywood connections faster by being able to meet people and attend red carpet events. It would have made them even more arrogant towards the RF and probably politics too. This slow moving train wreck would have been full throttle off a cliff. M$H would have separated or announced their divorce because M would have already found her next mark.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger SirStinxAlot said...
I think H$M would have gone apocalyptic sooner if it had not been for the pandemic.
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Such a shame.
SirStinxAlot said…
Its hard to go husband shopping during a world pandemic.🤑
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
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Henrietta said…
O/T kind of:

'Human remains found' near Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's £11 million mansion

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/human-remains-found-near-prince-24230851

BY CHIARA FIORILLO
23:19, 1 JUN 2021UPDATED23:20, 1 JUN 2021

Human remains have been found near Prince Harry and wife Meghan's £11 million mansion in Los Angeles, according to reports.

Workers who were doing landscaping found bones on an estate on Riven Rock Road in Montecito just yards from the Sussexes' plush home, the Sun reports.


It is not clear who the estate where the work was taking place belongs to, but workers immediately stopped their landscaping and called police to investigate the discovery, the newspaper adds.

The remains are said to be an incomplete skeleton and could belong to a Native American who lived in the area centuries ago but their exact age would be established by a forensic anthropologist called in by police.

The discovery is not linked to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

“Work stopped right away on the property and the cops were called in," a source told The Sun.

“It’s quite a lot of drama for a place like Montecito.”

Santa Barbara officials confirmed the discovery was not connected with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the paper added.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
Blogger SirStinxAlot said...
I think H$M would have gone apocalyptic sooner if it had not been for the pandemic.
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I don't remember saying this.

Hoping someone captures.
hunter said…
Miggy – That Twitter thread under Yankee Wally from Bookworm – wow. She really lays it all out. There were some numbnuts in that thread asking “What is this about? What does this even say?” and I can’t even take the time for those folks, bless their ignorance.

It is an entire write-up of dates, times, and inconsistencies addressed to the Canturbury guy (?) who supposedly baptized Archie and married H&M – it tells him the story will get out before end of year and if it does, she will tell “her truth” (presumably the BRF forced her to have a surrogate to ensure a white baby, that’s my gist but she did not specify). She warns him and the BRF accounts (who are tagged) of this in four very polite yet specific pages, I encourage anyone to read it.

https://twitter.com/yankeewally2/status/1399063764570460160

I don’t trust DeuxMoi at all either – they are downright evil to anyone who questions anything about MM on their FB group, I had to leave or be chased out as a racist for not supporting her. I have also suspected some BlindGossip items are fed to Ace by MM herself, especially the one which insists the DNA of the child is from both parents (sorry no link).

Lt Uhura – Love the LSA recaps (!!) I don’t get over there enough, the format is daunting but the comments you’ve shared are epic. As for Candace Owens, of course she’s a citizen (!?) I don’t tend to agree with her politically but find I often agree with her socially.

WBBM – benzos are the devil for sure, I can’t go near them unless there are really only one or two AT ALL, access to a whole bottle will destroy me in no time flat, I’m psycho for them and they’re devastating for people to get off. I only did them for a week a couple times and woah, nope. Can’t. I take waaayyyy too many and I’m… no good.

KCM1212 – I don’t know… that article almost gives Harry too much credit for being a planner. Diagnosis: not bloody likely indeed!! However she was right about Hollywood only wanting him, not her and how that’s gotta be settling in. It’s probably because she is so unpleasant and everyone knows it.

You guys gotta read that twitter letter to the Church guy (Archbishop?).

Best of health to JennS in her surgery.
hunter said…
When I say "it tell him the story will get out before end of year" she means the fact that Meghan did not carry or give birth to Archie.

She is telling the Archbishop with all politeness the whole ship will go down if the BRF doesn't get ahead of the story first.

If I were a better Nutty I would type the whole thing out for y'all.
hunter said…
to clarify, this is from Bookworm to the Archbishop, cc'ing Kensington & Buckingham, posted by Yankee Wally
Henrietta said…
Wow. BookWorm's letter is really something. But forgive my cynicism: Who is going to break the story given how damaging it would be for MM? The British press is still sitting on the sidelines, and when it comes to MM, the American press appears to be right next to them. And all the necessary medical documents to prove the story are HIPAA-protected.

The only way I can see the story breaking is if the surrogate herself comes forward.

What am I missing here?
Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Hades and Eris and their flying Harpies?

@Maneki

New Idea is trash, every other week they claim
“Kate preggers wi twins/triplets” 🥴

Happy Camper

Cheers 😊

@JennS

Wishing you the very best on your
upcoming surgery 🤞
Come back soon with tales afoot 🦶
Rob sends his love 😘
#metoo X

hunter said…
Henrietta - I imagine anyone who has seen her without her bump during a pregnancy phase or has seen multiple bumps during a press tour or somebody on the Oprah set or maybe people associated with the surrogate (perhaps she was treated badly, imagine!).

Plus there is no kid ever... I'm certainly here for it plus she puts all the details together for anyone who wants to actually - HEY I NOMINATE AUSTRALIA!!!!

brown-eyed said…
Puds said:
Archie is an unfortunate Master at present, but as he was born in the UK that can be used in America.”


Puds, “Master” is not a royal title. It is (or was) used to address a young male instead of Mr. (Mister). It the male equivalent of “Miss.” For example, you would address an invitation to “Master John Smith” and “Miss Mary Smith.” Those were the etiquette rules when I was growing up. Having said that, It is a more formal address than most people use now.
Magatha Mistie said…

Apologies to William Hughes Mearns
Antigonish

Antighostish
The phantom bump was never there

I met the mare with ratty hair
I saw a bump that wasn’t there
It wasn’t there again today
Oh how I wish that one would say
It never was, ‘twas all hearsay


Happy Camper said…
@JennS: Good luck with your surgery and be sure to give yourself enough time to recuperate before jumping back into this crazy circus we call life.
Magatha Mistie said…

All Washed Up

Far away, on shifting sand
Live two dirt-bags, Bland and Brand
Happy to wash their dirty linen
For fame and fortune, that’s a given
Round and round, their cycles driven
To rinse, repeat, and keep on spinning

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