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Open Post: Still More to See with the Sussexes

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electric plane said…
How do I manage to come even close to the excellent scribes here?,I've been a reader since forever and admire each and every one of you guys....keep up the good work.
No doubt the royal family are readying and bracing themselves tomorrow, for more bombshell lies from Maggot and Mole.

Wish I could get my emojis to work (like they once did) on this blog. :o/ ��
JennS said…
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Maneki Neko said…
@electric plane

Welcome to the blog. I wouldn't worry too much, all opinions are valid. I use a tablet, not ideal (more typos etc) and I don't aim to write an incisive treaty or essay - I've written enough formal essays - so don't let this stop you. It's good to have a variety of views :-)
Sconesandcream said…
Not that I care but when do we expect an announcement of the birth of Diana jnr?
I hope this is a good sign - so desperate for Royal news they've dug this up:

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/queen-elizabeth-rule-prince-louis-164900120.html

Or might there be another reason?

The Act to put daughters of the Sovereign on the same footing as the sons in the Succession was passed in 2013 and came into force in 2015.

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I'm trying to kick the essay habit as well - life's too short!
@Sconesandcream

On Diana's birthday/when the sculpture's unveiled/anything, up to six months after the birth.

BTW - do you put the jam on first or the cream? It's quite an issue down here!
abbyh said…
Good morning people.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Good to see you back, I hope you're fine.

Re the strumpet's nbr 2 child, as you said, the birth - or should it be 'birth'? - could be any time. Diana's birthday, unveiling of statue, Independence Day (for our future POTUS) etc. To add to their privacy concerns and mystique, although the actual date might be notable, we peasants won't probably be informed until well after the event.

By the way, when I mentioned writing essays I wasn't having a go :-). I like to read your posts.
Miggy said…
@Raspberry Ruffle,

Wish I could get my emojis to work (like they once did) on this blog.

Are you by any chance hitting 'preview' before you post?

Not all of my emojis work on this blog but for the ones that do... I find that if post without previewing they work fine... yet if I press 'preview' and then post - they don't! :)
@Miggy

Yes, I always hit preview because my phone is possessed...I’d have even more typos if I didn’t! Lol I will give it a whirl and bypass preview. 😁

Thank you. 🤗
Miggy said…
@Raspberry,

You're welcome. 😊
Teasmade said…
Re the "birth" or rather the delivery date (and by that I mean delivery like postal or Amazon, not labor and delivery), didn't she say "sometime this summer"? And summer starts June 20, not that she tells the truth about anything?
lizzie said…
@JennS, Thanks!

Reposting as this seems to have disappeared. If deleted for cause, sorry about the repost.

M could have been asking for "traditional" inpatient treatment in a hospital. As you pointed out, that's what Oprah seemed to assume. And it's not unreasonable to think a suicidal pregnant woman might want that sort of safety net if she was the least bit concerned about protecting her baby. But I don't think that's what M wanted.

Supposedly the big suicide reveal to Harry happened in January 2019. By that point, she'd already chosen to forego using the royal OB's. And while we are never given due dates for royals, M and Harry were all over the map with verbal hints of hers. In mid-Dec at the care home, she was feeling "very pregnant." During the Christmas walk she said they were "almost there." Somewhere along the way she talked about someone she knew delivering 5 weeks early so "you never know." In Feb H said "there's a big baby in there" (yet at barely 7 lb Archie was not a big baby when born in May.) While some of that was simply to get press coverage I'm sure, I also think it was designed to obscure (coupled with the rejection of royal doctors.) I just can't see M subjecting herself to inpatient scrutiny even if she really was pregnant. And I'm not convinced she was.

I do think she wanted to "go away" somewhere but just not to a hospital. After all, the beach and avocados can cure anything! But as @WBBM pointed out on the last thread, doctors may be involved in many "health" spas too. That's quite reasonable given liability issues. So assuming she made a request (and we don't really know she did), I don't know exactly what she had in mind. But I don't think it was a traditional inpatient hospital setting or twice a week appts at KP with a psychiatrist. And I do think there are plenty of "nutty cuckoo" kinds of "retreats" that would have fit M's "new age" ideas.

I do think she may have been building a defense against bullying accusations and for victimhood. But lots more could have been going on too. We don't really know much about what they were asking to do that they were told they couldn't do. We don't know when they were told there absolutely would not be a Letters Patent making Archie a prince at birth. (Supposedly they knew earlier but I can see both H&M not taking no for an answer.) We don't know if there was blow-back when the late December/early January report came out about M's eye-popping off-the-chart clothing costs. We don't know if there were issues with demands made re: the Frog Cott renovation. While it wasn't publicly announced until very late, we don't know when they were told about the late Feb trip to Morocco. And while we've all heard what sounded like some boos at the event at the Albert Hall, we don't know if there had been some previous booing elsewhere. So there's lots we don't know.
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@WBBM- Glad you are feeling better!
Miggy said…
Prince Philip 'left cash to three of his closest aides but bulk of £30m estate will go to Queen' (and Harry could get windfall after will was agreed before his 'truth bomb' attacks on family)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9624949/Prince-Philip-left-cash-three-closest-aides.html
SwampWoman said…
Hey, abbyh! As I haven't fixed coffee yet (grandson arrived a little early), think of me as stomping through the house like SGM Plumley from "We Were Soldiers Once and Young": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwATvALiQ_8

Aaaaaah. Coffee is DONE. Added a little cinnamon, some turmeric, some pepper to the coffee grounds for medicinal purposes. Good morning, abbyh! (grin)

Now, back to idle conversation about Diana's Second Coming/Reincarnation from the Blessed Belly of the Beast: At this point, I don't care if little fetus of fiction arrives on the 4th of July complete with the zombified original cast singing "I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy" led by James Cagney.

If this was a lab-assisted reproduction, it probably came from Wuhan. Who else would say "HEY! I wonder what would happen if we combined genes for low IQ and mental illness with other genes for scheming, rage, and major mental illness? This will be GREAT! Hold my beer and watch this!"

Poor child to be handed over to such disastrous 'parents'. Who thinks oversized toddlers with tantrums make great parents? Show of hands? (Mine are firmly wrapped around coffee mug when they are not typing.)
SwampWoman said…
Oh, my gracious, WHERE have my manners gone? So happy to see that you have left anonymity and became visible, electric plane. I look forward to reading your point of view!
JHanoi said…
Kim K - any see the DM article on how she had her team quickly pull an update to her ‘App’?

apparently, the “app” creators added a bit on a Runaway Prince and Princess, thinely veiled Harkles, from the Harkle/ Wife point of view or “lens”. the princess said stuff like ‘the i married into hates me or say bad things about me’.

anyway due to Kim K’s supporters reachig out and complaining about the Harkles lies and meaness to HM after the death of PP, Kim K apologizd for her Appss ‘Princess and Princes’ characters and had them pulled/ removed cancelled from her App.

I think it show the general public sides with the BRF and sees thru the Harkles subterfuge, lies and hypocrisy, and the Hollyweird /Media crowd that glommed onto the HArkles may be step away or be more aware to keep their distance to prevent being MArkled.
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Elsbeth1847 said…
Comment about timing on reveals, who looked relaxed and who did not:

Then fiance and I were to have some photos taken for the parents by a friend. We were standing outside friend's door and they turned to me and angrily told me that they didn't want to do this, I'm always pulling stuff like this (that they don't want to do). Verbal blast ends, door opens and we go in. The photos of them are fine. Very relaxed. Me? clearly off and not relaxed.


Perhaps the ability to keep people off guard extends to marital partner and not just either extended family, staff, friends or the world at large.

I was thinking about this and realized that they don't always work in tandem or as a united front through most of their togetherness. Maybe more so now as they try to figure out how to survive without the family cash inflow but not so much then.

I was also thinking about how she did not seem to come in with trust towards people trying to help her. Diana, with her paranoia about the men in grey, or the growing up in Hollywood with a rather pay to play sort of influencing how you grow up thinking most of the world functions, may have influenced how she viewed any attempts to reach out help her in any way shape or form.

If you begin with the idea that people have agendas and use them to manipulate you, anything said/done will be viewed from that point of view. And, if the only person you might trust a little grew up perhaps thinking along those lines as well (from his mother or other experiences), then it becomes the echo chamber reinforcing their beliefs. Then when the family does not respond for any reason (or fast enough or was not the desired answer), it self reinforces the idea that the family does not care and when they do respond - they have an agenda to keep 6/wife under their thumb as we might overshadow others of higher rank or people might like us better (as if the monarchy has run on popularity for centuries as the only rule used to make decisions).

As I was writing this out, I was thinking about how we are influenced about what is normal or not in a marriage based on what we see growing up within our own family or our friends.

She was the one who had been married before. She may have been the idea person directing things originally but maybe now since he is the more visible person, he is taking over? Maybe what is really going on is a struggle for power within the marriage (the idea that one is on top instead of learning to share)? If so, it reminds me of the scene in Winnie the Pooh (original book) where he's trying to ride the honey pot as a boat and sometimes he was on top of it and sometimes he was under it but it was a battle.
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JHanoi said…
isnt treating your Mom like “the Help” or “the Nanny” also throwing her under the bus in a woke feminist world?

lizzie said…
@CookieShark,

Meghan wore the red coat and purple dress on Jan 14 in Birkenhead. Archie was supposedly born on May 6 which was 17 weeks later. It was then announced he was a week late, but I don't see how she could have been 6.5 months along on Jan 14.

She wore the blue sparkly dress to the Albert Hall two days later on Jan 16. That's the day M supposedly told Harry she was suicidal then went to the event.

Her blase attitude about a baby coming 5 weeks early made no sense to me either. Obviously prematurity carries risks. The only explanations I can come up with are:

1. She wasn't really pregnant with Archie.

2. It wasn't HER baby who came early so who cares.

3. She was so caught up in playing a laid-back California cool "girl" (compared to the much too-upright Brits like Kate) that the role got away from her. And she said something really stupid.

4. All of the above.
ADF said…
Just wanted to thank everyone for being such astute armchair psychologists (meant to be a compliment!). I love reading your dissections of this incessant unconscionable behavior. It’s surreal that this is all playing out on the world’s stage, but at least we can trade notes.

I truly appreciate all of your insights!

Since many have posted about crossing paths with a narcissist, I sifted through my memories to try to find a person in my life who reminds me of M. I recall one employee who sat over coffee and spouted 10 minutes of nonsense, illogical and untrue statements about my job performance (mind you, I was her boss) and I thought, how does someone come up with such a steady stream of vitriol? I could probably fill that airtime with complements for someone I liked and respected, but not endless insults! But that’s not me. I’m not walking around looking for the worst in everyone, expecting everyone to be preparing to attack me or insult me or whatnot.

M is insecure, highly anxious, paranoid, delusional, and controlling to the extent of possibly having OCD tendencies or characteristics. She has no impulse control, minimal ability to modulate her reactions to events, and no regard for the thoughts or feeling of others.

A personality profile not unlike that of someone who is in prison,

Her weapons are words. She is a python that strangles people while they sleep.

What a relief to not live in her neighborhood or have young kids who may be in school with hers. I know I will never cross paths with her, and amen to that.
Going back to Cirque du Soleil, it seemed to me that it was Harry who looked in a bad way at that event, not her. She even took his hand, as if to comfort him. No reddened eyes, no messy make up.

Was he put out by the booing or because she'd dropped her `suicide' bombshell? Was she happy because she'd scored a point off him and made him miserable?

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@Maneki - No need to apologise, I didn't for one moment think you were getting at me - I just keep my offerings here brief, for my own sake.
SwampWoman said…
ADF said: Her weapons are words. She is a python that strangles people while they sleep.

What a relief to not live in her neighborhood or have young kids who may be in school with hers. I know I will never cross paths with her, and amen to that.


WHAT an evocative word picture! Now I'm going to see a yak-haired python with a ginger-colored lump in the middle whenever certain ex-royals are mentioned...
lucy said…
Emails please!

And to share random photo from bookmarks
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/86/26/9e8626dbbe30898d3e076f71aefffcfb.jpg

Is this the match Serena did not want her to attend? She sat next to her mom for whole match? Look how uncomfortable that is. She is certifiable! Who does that?
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Going back to Cirque du Soleil, it seemed to me that it was Harry who looked in a bad way at that event, not her. She even took his hand, as if to comfort him. No reddened eyes, no messy make up.

Was he put out by the booing or because she'd dropped her `suicide' bombshell? Was she happy because she'd scored a point off him and made him miserable?


She must have magical ability with makeup, then, much better than I have! (Wait, I've seen her makeup, nevermind.) How DOES one cover up suicidal tendencies and crying a river to instead look smug? IF I cry, I have swollen eyes, nose, red patchy skin. The only thing that could cover THAT up would be a paper bag.

IF she cried, it was probably Hollywood crying where the actress looks just adorable with teary eyes. Bleh. I'd like to hit them with some tear gas to see what they *really* look like crying. Bwahahaha.
Happy Camper said…
@electric plane: Welcome. You are right. There are some extraordinary writers with keen senses of observation and analysis here.



Lady C says (in her latest YouTube video) when Maggot leaves Mole, he will commit suicide and this is what his family fear most. 😯Maggot has emotionally and psychologically highjacked and taken over Mole. My Mum had been saying the former for ages now. Such a terrible and tragic outcome if it were to occur, but unless Mole goes home I can’t see a happy ending either. 😦
Typo:

That should be *has been saying the former...
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Blogger tatty said...
I suspect she is due from any minute now (if it hasn’t already happened) to say June 21 (calendar first day of summer).

I wanted to speculate on names, but real possibilities not silly dorito megalo type names. I suspect they are going the route of Archie and making it a non royal name. I also suspect it could be a very American type name.

I think if they wanted to stay with family names (which I doubt):
Mary Alice
Alice
libby (short for Elizabeth)

California quirky names:
Kai (lol my sister who lived in California threw that one out as a possibility years ago)
Apple lol
Olive (since they have olive trees on their property)
Luna

American names:
Lexi
Ava
hazel
Riley
Mila
Madison
Maya
Bella
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Snarkyatherbest said…
SwampWoman - ha!! yes no one looks cute when crying unless you are two years old. Slap them all

She used that event to say she was suicidal because it was when they were booed and she looked pissed when the lights went down. he looks more like he wanted to crawl into a cave. maybe in the car she let off a truth bomb and he was like oh no what is coming next. I would have to look at the video at the time because she grabbed his hand like you better hold my hand.

I still go back to - they BRF may have suggested therapy for her or them. She may have agreed if it were an all expense paid spa vaca in a luxury villa for her and her friends (not sure she would have invited harry). They said no or said yeah only if the royal OB get a look. They did something behind the scenes and she is gonna make them pay for it that is for sure.

WE have all speculated and most believe she was never pregnant. The BRF for sure must have had their suspicions.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Oh and the oprah and prince harry town hall - its on a friday = the nation is opening up. No one is gonna stay in to watch it. Its memorial day weekend where we are out and about and sadly forgetting about the people who gave their lives for our freedom. But we are not gonna be stuck watching apple tV and oprah. timing is definitely not for much traction. We are more concerned about how many brats we will be eating. ;-)
Happy Camper said…
JennS said...
I suspect she was not only laying out a trail of 'proof' that she was depressed in order to thwart her bullying charges, but that she also wanted to use this as part of her claim she was a bullying VICTIM herself, and that the hate she received from the press and public affected her health. The trail of requests for help could be used as 'receipts' for her victim of the press and social-media claims. She already tried to make a claim for that within her copyright/ privacy lawsuit.

@JennS: Your entire comment was excellent. You are spot on.

Meghan had to keep reinforcing the victim narrative partly to maintain the fictitious parallel between herself and Diana to achieve her long game goal to get out of the UK as soon as possible. The information that keeps coming out makes it obvious her ultimate destination of was to run back to California with the royal title and Harry in tow plus a child to use as a weapon, leverage, and an insurance policy for her future.

The second baby is, in many ways, a “spare,” just as Harry was. However, a little girl will be much more useful to Meghan than Archie because a girl will be far more marketable in terms of clothing and lifestyle than a boy.

In addition to merching her daughter, because Meghan is a narcissist, she will project herself on her daughter and attempt to mold her into a miniature version of herself. On a day-to-day basis, Archie will likely be largely ignored, only to be used for contrived photo ops and as needed to maintain control over Harry and as a control weapon against The Queen and Charles.

So in a twisted narcissistic way, Archie might be the least damaged of the two children. His sister will likely be the child who will be the subject of relentless 24/7 control and manipulation by her profoundly narcissistic mother.

However, if there is a divorce, Meghan will groom these children to view Harry as the bad guy while mommy is the innocent victim.

However, they will both be inculcated into the victim narrative by both Harry and Meghan.

SwampWoman said…
@tatty, I especially like Luna, short for Lunatic.
AnT said…
Apparently the Harrkles are planting new-old stories to lay the groundwork for why they won't be hiring childcare or nannies for the 'new baby'-- new drop on Yahoo today featuring Scobie:

Meghan Markle And Prince Harry Had To Fire An "Irresponsible" Night Nurse

https://www.delish.com/food-news/a36543571/meghan-markle-prince-harry-fire-night-nurse/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/meghan-markle-prince-harry-had-142800636.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAp7s_6cXZISjOrSRflXg-4FGF8XNKGTIcsVrzu2PM-Z76qNf5_7pQcgnMgSBOtPiPRRFWFYz2lHcJx0b2Z5Q0Ke0NJqVfJ-A2GDEt_IG_K9qMKibLltuwEZO80psfDgK5oQA0_2CGwnPosJXffCQiZKcTxaVtfcapJ07WFAOZag

CONTENT:

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were forced to fire an "irresponsible" night nurse after an "incident" during the night, royal correspondent Omid Scobie said in an interview for the UK's Channel 4 documentary A Very Royal Baby: From Cradle to Crown. Scobie is the co-author of Finding Freedom: Harry and Meghan and the Making of a Modern Royal Family, along with Carolyn Durand. Meghan and Harry's struggle to find a night nurse they trusted was first reported in Finding Freedom.

Said Scobie in the documentary: "Very few people know the real story behind it. After Archie's arrival, Harry and Meghan wanted some help to establish a sleep pattern. They hired a night nanny. Whilst I can't go into someone else's employment details for legal reasons, it was an incident on one of the first nights that put the couple off from having a night nurse."

In their book, Scobie and Durand called the first night nurse "unprofessional" and "irresponsible." After the "incident,'" Harry and Meghan were reportedly nervous to the point that they would get up and check on Archie multiple times an evening, even after hiring a night nurse they felt more comfortable with. Ultimately, the experience put the couple off the idea of having a night nurse at all.

Initially, the couple had thought they “didn’t want a Mary Poppins-type character around their child," Scobie said in an interview for the documentary. But after the incident with the night nurse, Harry and Meghan went on to hire a daytime nanny for Archie during the first months of his life.

It's not clear what the couple's plans are for their next child, a girl who is reportedly due any day now, especially as Harry and Meghan ramp up on their work projects; Meghan is releasing her first children's book, and Harry is taking on a role of Chief Impact Officer at BetterUp. Doria Ragland, Meghan's mom, is likely to spend at least a few days with them helping them adjust, as she did when Archie was born.
Grisham said…
Well, they both mean of the moon, whatever that means in astrology etc
SwampWoman said…
Snarkyatherbest, the streets are ALREADY crowded here with travelers/vacationers getting a head start on the weekend and fun in the Florida sun. Restaurants are packed. Grocery store is packed. Gas stations are packed. Tourists are drowning in riptides in large numbers (PSA: swim parallel to the beach when you are being swept out to sea). They are running into each other on the highway. I was going to take grandson to the beach today; after waiting at traffic lights and being unable to even enter the McDonald's parking lot for a Happy Meal, we will wait until next week.

This is all a long-winded way to say that I agree, Friday is a TERRIBLE day for television.
Just watched Lady C's latest.

First regarding `Oprah or Opera?' I had an instant image of Oprah as the Bouncing `Tosca' - if you just google that term you'll find several versions of that story and it may help to bring a lighter note to otherwise ominous events.

To be serious -

In his authoritarian, totalitarian, mind, Harry forgets that, when he disparages the `little people', that the Monarchy only exists by consent of the people, and that includes the `little' ones. Bad move. He can't even see that by trying to bring down his family, he is pulling the rug from under his own feet.

Come the revolution that he and his Woke mates seem to seek, and if he comes back to secure what he sees as his rightful place, he'll probably meet some other fate.

Assuming he lasts that long.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger AnT said...
Apparently the Harrkles are planting new-old stories to lay the groundwork for why they won't be hiring childcare or nannies for the 'new baby'-- new drop on Yahoo today featuring Scobie:

Meghan Markle And Prince Harry Had To Fire An "Irresponsible" Night Nurse


I expect that things are unraveling quickly and they are trying to get ahead of a story in which the night nurse claims they are both batsh*t crazy. If things are going the way I think that they are, they probably can't afford the salaries.
SwampWoman said…
WildBoarBattle-maid said: Just watched Lady C's latest.

I'm off to watch it now. I really don't expect Harry to return alive to the UK and haven't for some time. He seems to be easily manipulated, and it would be much better for her to be a widow than a dumped divorcee. Other than that, I'll hold my opinion to watch Lady C.
AnT -

It's time to repeat the Other Night Nurse Story - the one that was published here:

Nurse turned up at Frog Cott, presumably let in but then abandoned - No M, No H, no other staff - and no Baby. Quite alone.

She fled in the middle of the night from what she perceived as madness.

Which version seems more likely?

Fifi LaRue said…
Some random thoughts: I think the wife is going to want to out-do Kim Kardashian, and Chrissy Tiegen with a very special name for the baby that the surrogate delivers. As someone brilliant here stated (Hikari?), it's going to be an anagram of Rachel, so Archangel.

As for Haz, if children really exist, when the wife walks out the door I think it will be Angelina Brad 2.0 with the never-ending custody battle. There is doubt that there is a child named Archie for which they have custody.

There is absolutely nothing that is normal or wholesome with Haz and the wife.

IMO Oprah is a Predator, and she's using Haz to advance her own agenda and her pockets.
AnT said…

@Fifi LaRue,
Rumors in LA have it that Oprah got the deal for the post-divorce interview with Megs a long time ago. The rest of this is decorating the parade route til we get there.

@Wild Boar Battle-maid,
I forgot that Night Nurse story!!!!!! -- and I remember thinking at the time that I believed that version, based on some other intel about it and tweets framing it that I saw. Well done remembering that information, and reposting! Yes, I think that could be it -- I wouldn't be surprised if something like that is going to come out along with the stories of the staff she bullied during her short stay in the UK.

@SwampWoman,
Think you're probably over the target, with your thoughts on "bat-s**t crazy" and the salary issues.

Off to watch Lady C.
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Happy Camper said…
Fifi LaRue said...

As for Haz, if children really exist, when the wife walks out the door I think it will be Angelina Brad 2.0 with the never-ending custody battle.

@Fifi LaRue: When narcissists go through a divorce, they often go for the thermonuclear scorched-earth route as they attempt to leave nothing standing.

Yes, for Meghan, the main purposes of those two children are to be useful objects for her. She already weaponized Archie bu refusing to bring him to the UK when she and Harry returned in early March 2020 for their last official engagements, which was before COVID-19 had become so widespread that lockdowns were started. She denied HMTQ, Philip, and Charles a visit with Archie as a control tactic, by using him as a weapon. “If you don’t give me everything I want, you will never see your grandson again.”

If Charles is king by the time they split, the Sussex children, as grandchildren of the monarch, are according to the way I understand it, is under control of the monarch. In a custody battle between Harry, and by extension, the King of England, Meghan would likely lose.

The Royal Family would be able to exert a tremendous amount of influence in the US media and through legal firepower, in the courts to get those children back to live in the UK. They are technically in the line of succession to the throne, and the United States might not want to harm the long-standing relationship with its closest ally nation over the demands of a third-rate actress who, along with the late Bernie Madoff, will no doubt be remembered in the pantheon of the greatest con artists of the 21st Century.

Outside of a nasty custody battle a la Brangelina, a Sussex parting would also be nasty on other levels to the extent that the level of vitriol would likely make the split of another celebrity couple, Paul McCartney and Heather Mills, look like a Wednesday night Bible study group.
D1 said…
The UK Royalty is not the only ones having problems with with second born sons.

Here in DK Prince Joachim is also pretty outspoken about his lot in life. He's never really been happy to play second fiddle to his brother Crown Prince Frederik. They don't have a close realtionship.

He happily upstaged his nephew second heir to the throne, Prince Christians confirmation. That's a no no, same as the UK.

He supports Harry, another poor me bloke.

His father Prince Henrik also never stopped moaning, he expected more from being Royal.. was pretty sad in the end.
Maneki Neko said…
To make a change from the constant moaning and negativity of the MHarkles, here are some pix and comments from this blog:

Duchess Moaning Markle👸🏽💫🇺🇸(parody)
@SparkleMeghan
American Princess. 👑 Duchess Difficult 👸🏽 Author ✍️ POTUS 2024 🇺🇸 Humanitarian 👶🏿 Pronouns:Me/Mine #MeghanMarkle #parody #comedy #satire

https://mobile.twitter.com/SparkleMeghan?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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OCGal said…
Apologies if this is a duplicate of another poster’s alert, but The Behavior Panel today speaks of “Prince Harry Oprah Interview: The Me You Can’t See EMDR Body Language Revealed” with link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOipDGz3bHg
Interesting stuff. Enjoy!
Grisham said…
Here is Harry today speaking for Peak state and mental fitness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkqV9f416SA&feature=emb_imp_woyt
JHanoi said…
imo, when the harkles split and the custody battle looks bitter and vindictive like BrAngelina, the wife has an excellent chance of retaining primaryl custody. the whole Monarch has custody thing is fine if they were living in the UK, but they aren’t. posseion is 9/10th of the law. the Harkles decided to flee the UK, monarchy, and everything it represents....( except it’s titles, hrh, $$$, money, bennies, securty, etc.). theyve done public interviews/specials on that.

no US judge is going to rip a child out of its dear mothers arms hand over a kid to PC, unless she is documented as extremely negligent. and ding dong JH may go the Brad route and stay in th courts till the kids are 30 to fight for 50/50 joint custody, but based on his Endless mental health struggles as a result of him losing his Mom, he could or will be perceived as hypocritical once again. add in his admitted drug and anger issues, and the wifes documentationobession, he’s screwed.

plus the wife will probably never allow the kids to go to the UK and meet any “toxic” family ( angelina 2?)so there will be no ‘ties’ to PC, UK, or anyone there.
Jdubya said…
Thank you OCGAL
@Swampwoman,

Excellent PSA! Yes, swim parallel to the beach, and the waves will bring you back to shore, just like a log rolling up onto the beach.
Jdubya said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9627011/Prince-Harry-appears-promo-new-mental-fitness-campaign-just-hours-new-Oprah-show.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK
CookieShark said…
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Jdubya said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9626723/Actors-playing-Harry-Meghan-Lifetime-movie-seen-set-time.html

ah geez
SirStinxAlot said…
Why would they need another nanny? Doesn’t Archie have Doria,house keepers, landscapers, 3 nannies, a governess, and a team of private tutors to help him advance academically? Surely they don't need to hire anyone else. Dont forget their 12 Elite in house PR people, minus the Gates lady that jumped ship.
I think they are spending $$ faster than they can cash the checks. Fake it til you make it seems to be M mindset long before she snagged H.

"DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM???" -Meghan Markle from Suits
The `prisoner' theme - apart from our refering to the surreal TV series. it was Diana who started it.

`POW' - not so much `Princess of Wales' but `Prisoner of War'.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/733184-princess-diana-nicknamed-a-prisoner-of-war-stuck-in-buckingham-palace#

`Princess Diana nicknamed ‘a prisoner of war’ stuck in Buckingham Palace' but IIRC she used it of herself.

It was the standard abbreviation in the UK, as in `She met him when he was a PoW working on their farm - they got married after the war and they're still happy and here'
Glumdalclitch said…
@Tatty I had wondered the same thing about the baby's name a long while back. I suspect they will go for a name with ties to Africa or a historical Black American figure. For that reason, my money is on Winnie (Mandela), Zora (Neal Hurston) or Harriet (Tubman). I always love the fun suggestions that this blog suggests though.
Grisham said…
Oooh, those are some good name ideas.
brown-eyed said…

Blogger lucy said...
... And to share random photo from bookmarks
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/86/26/9e8626dbbe30898d3e076f71aefffcfb.jpg

Is this the match Serena did not want her to attend? She sat next to her mom for whole match? Look how uncomfortable that is. She is certifiable! Who does that?

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Yes, Serena didn’t want her there. She sat next to Serena’s mother and mom ignored her. She talked & gestured to herself, apparently to make people think she was participating in a conversation. She spent a lot of time looking at the huge stadium screen (jumbotron?) to see if she was on it. Gross. Harry’s wife also appeared to be very friendly to Serena’s husband. Not a good day for Harry’s wife.

Testing emojis to celebrate our 47th wedding anniversary:🎉🍷🎂
IMO, Harry was/is negligent to have moved his child (?) to the USA. He knows he'd lose custody. He just doesn't actually care about kids.
AnT said…

@Maneki Neko,
That Duchess Moaning Markle parody Twitter thread was hilarious! Thank you! That video! I’ll be following it.

@JHanoi,
Brad Pitt was just awarded joint custody of the kids. Megs has better review her Big Plan.

@SirStinxALot,
Each successive day and child increases the chance one of these nannies, delivery people, or baby rental agents talking. 😀

@briwn-eyed,
Happy anniversary!

Ziggy said…
@Glumdalclitch
Great ideas- Harriet really stands out because it gets the "harry" in there. Ugh.
Harriet Diana/ Diana Harriet, and Archie Harrison *eye roll*
Ziggy said…
JAN MOIR: Even amid the storms, Kate and Wills have wind in their sails
By JAN MOIR FOR THE DAILY MAIL

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9627521/JAN-MOIR-amid-storms-Kate-Wills-wind-sails.html
AnT said…
@Not Meghan Markle,

I agree — if there is a child.

Harry obviously thinks the whole child thing is a joke, anyway, Just another thing to use to stick a finger in the eye of the royal family and the British public, or a useful “thing” to sell for money.

He goes along with his poisonous wife, and mocks the idea of baby’s first words”in every interview by spewing forth something else new and ridiculous for a child of its age at the time of the various telling. Crocodile, Drive safe, Hydrate, Waffle, Grandma Diana. This stuff either shows (A) they know nothing of babies/very young children and are not around one, or (B) that they choose to mock the public using Archie for press hits. Neither A nor B is a great reality. (C) is that they are simply lying because they get off on deception.

That Harry spends all his time weeping and pouting and fomenting, attacking his granny and father about the way he suffered as a child, then turns around and uses this Archie child in this manner is pretty demented.

I hope whoever is assigned to deliver the warming pan containing Baby Mary Jane Diana has a hard think about how creepy this all is, and changes their mind. I know she has worked hard to look 8 months pregnant since February and she isn’t due until July 1, but I hope whoever is being paid for this horrific deception takes pity on the baby in the pipeline.


Ziggy said…
@AnT
I couldn't agree with you more. The whole thing is psychotic, like a horror or thriller movie playing out before our eyes.
Hikari said…
Who is with me in thinking The Incident involving the night nurse was when she tiptoed into the vegan-painted nursery at FroggyCott to see her new charge and discovering that the baby did not appear to be breathing, attempted to perform infant CPR on Mugsy’s Reborn. M was high when she engaged the nurse and Didn’t realize she had called an actual nanny agency, and not Haz’s favorite outcall stripper agency that was supposed to send a woman in a naughty nurse costume. The night nurse had to go since she found out Meg’s dirty little secret. All the other fake household staff were suitably read in As to why “Archie” never leaves his crib.
AnT said…

@Ziggy,
It really is, isn’t it?
AnT said…


@Hikari,
Your scenario is funny, but, I can believe it happened pretty much that way!

“Why Archie Never Leaves His Crib” <—— that just gave me the shivers.

Sounds like a teen horror movie, just as @Ziggy suggests!

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AnT said…
@JennS
@lizzie,

I meant to say this earlier in response to lizzie’s excellent post..... I don’t regard what Oprah did as an interview. I view it as a performance piece, following a tightly practiced script.
Observant One said…
I can no longer hold back from this interesting topic. I agree that Harry's wife specified that she "needed to go somewhere." She didn't indicate for treatment. I think she wanted to go to California or Canada, where she thought she would not be criticized in the media comments. She knew they were losing public approval, because they were getting booed at events.

I also wonder if they were forced out of the Senior Royal roles and told they had to leave. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I think the RF knew the pregnancy was fake and they didn't want any part of the train wreck.

Something serious happened during their South Pacific tour and again on their Africa tour. Hopefully, we will learn the truth one day, and not Meg's or Harry's tuth.
AnT said…
@Observant One,
Glad you didn’t hold back because that’s an excellent comment.

Like you, I think she was thinking of a nice faraway destination where she could party and plot with her friends, managers and backers and relax with wine and weed poolside with no bumps or babies. Well, she finally got there.

But it didn’t happen when she wanted it to. Something went down, I agree, and I do think the pair were asked to depart. Harry was perhaps told he could return only without his bewigged baggage. But she owns his mind along with Oprah and the backers or plotters.
Fifi LaRue said…
@AnT: Wow. I love your phrasing, "Decorating the parade route." I can believe it. The Wife has probably had very private talks with Orca, and divulged details to be kept secret, just in case.

@Happy Camper: Yes, the custody rules. Though I wonder if the family really cares all that much about a child they've never met, and whose existence remains doubtful. Like, who wants to fight over a PU (polyurethane) doll?
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: With you almost 100% on your comments.
jessica said…
I’ve always thought they were told to leave after the SA interview, unless they complied with XYZ. They then decided they were out.
jessica said…
The three topics that make the most content money online are Self Help, Finance (personal finance), and Sex. It’s obvious which they are trying to own.
jessica said…
Have we been completely set up?

Harry is in with Oprah. They are on AppleTV weekly (granted, it doesn’t have many subscribers, but Apple is affluent in brand recognition). They got on Apple via Oprah and the RF. I think Harry is full of shit. I’m starting to think he’s been putting on the ‘hostage Harry’ videos, to gain sympathy and look distraught. They wouldn’t release those videos without a purpose. He admitted that he has notes and scripts he rehearses. Of course he does. He’s in with Oprah.

We’ve thought for a time being that Oprah was tapping Meghan to be Oprah 2.0. Harry (and his insane Royal ‘escape’/drama fit for a TV movie) is a famous millennial that never really stood for much, just for who his family is. Is Oprah’s team trying to make Harry (and Meghan) the millennial Tony Robbins for the internet? It sure seems like it. Have a sob story, try to be relatable, play down their richness and Royalness, then push out feel good self help products that they’ve invested in but bring the publicity too, go on the speaking circuit, go back to broadcast with Oprah, etc.

Something tells me we are going to unfortunately be seeing too much of Harry in the US due to Oprah (and backers) because he is willing to be exploited, make headlines, scheme and prevail.

I truly think Oprah is happy to be behind all of this nonsense. She always wants to be the main broadcast owner of ‘self help’ and she has yet to crack it online. I think that’s what we are witnessing here.
jessica said…
“ In the new episode, Harry and Oprah agreed that the best piece of advice they learned while filming the mental health docuseries was to tell a suicidal person that they are 'not alone'.

'So many people are afraid of being on the receiving end of that conversation [from a suicidal person] because they don't feel like they have the right tools to give the right advice,' Harry stated.

'But what you want to say is "You're there". Listen, because listening and being part of that conversation is without doubt the best first step that you can take.'”

No, this is TERRIBLE advice. My brother, who jumped 11 stories to his death, was on the phone with friends just prior. He told them he was suicidal, they told him he was not alone, this went back and forth for 20 minutes. He hung up and jumped.

No one called the police. No one called the hospital. That is what you do when someone is suicidal. You do not sit and chat with them then go about your day.

lizzie said…
@Jessica,

I'm sorry for the loss of your brother.

I agree it is terrible advice to suggest their audience members simply tell people they encounter who are actively suicidal that they aren't alone while doing nothing else (except patting themselves on the back for showing compassion.)

While saying 'you aren't alone" is no doubt intended to be caring and supportive, it could sound clueless and condescending. It could make it sound like not being alone is a quick cure for the intense pain or the total emptiness the suicidal person may be feeling. Telling someone he/she isn't alone under those circumstances may actually emphasize just how alone the person really feels. He/she is in a really dark place and all that's being offered are platitudes. Might as well start singing Carole King's "You've Got A Friend."

Emergency services should be contacted. The suicidal person should be kept on the phone until help arrives, if possible. Or if the interaction is in person, he/she shouldn't be left alone. That will be more effective in preventing suicide than telling someone he/she isn't alone.
Maneki Neko said…
The worst about the Harkles'/Harry's advice and general drivel is that people, I'm thinking in particular younger ones who follow them, might listen to them and not get proper care. The Harkles are not qualified in any way and Harry's experience does not equate a qualification in mental health. There should be some sort of warning for the public at large that they need to see their GP and or mental health specialist. These interviews/podcasts are so dangerous.
Blogger Not Meghan Markle said...

IMO, Harry was/is negligent to have moved his child (?) to the USA. He knows he'd lose custody. He just doesn't actually care about kids.

I agree about his apparent lack of concern, for all that he seemed fine with the African ones before he met her.

We are still assuming that `their' son, if conceived by the fusion of gametes, was born in the UK.

Were I to attempt that scam, I'd make sure that my `son by purchase' first saw the light of day in the US and stayed there, like a `click and collect' item. That's assuming he really was born and didn't emerge on a factory production line.
Maneki Neko said…
@Jessica

I remember you mentioned your brother, what a tragic time. You're right that 'you're not alone' is just empty words at best and at worst dangerous. The a
Maneki Neko said…
Sorry, trying to write on my phone.

The advice/lecture is also patronising and insulting.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Jessica

I’m so sorry about your brother X
I agree with you,
and @lizzie@Maneki that
Harry is peddling the wrong
information, dangerous.
He should be advocating the
importance of calling emergency services.
Hollow words, from a hollow man.
I love this comment from today's Mail: Thanks to the person who posted it:

A "source", whose identity I cannot disclose but who is close to Oprah, tells me that in episode three of the Winfrey-Sussex miniseries, Hapless Harry will reveal his beliefs (which cannot be challenged as they are Hapless Harry's "real truths" ) that Father Christmas does exists and is operating a debt-servitude regime which is adversely affecting the mental health of the elves. Furthermore, Hapless Harry will make it clear to us all that the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese and it is all the fault of the Easter Bunny who is one of many aliens who have taken over chocolate production on a world wide basis and who are gradually poisoning humanity.
Magatha Mistie said…

Belated condolences to @Swampie
on the loss of your father in law X
Dedicating “Friday Night Singalong”
to you 😘

Apologies to Dean Martin “That’s Amore”

That’s Devour-e

When she landed that Jerk
With her false toothy smirk
Thats Abhor-e

With a flick of the V’S
She fell to her knees
That’s Awhore-e

Bell’ she’s rung
Cling a bling a ring
Merch-ing a sting a kerch-ing
Her Encore-e

Let’s hope Abhor-e, Awhore-e,
Encore-e
Will soon be no More-e

Magatha Mistie said…

@WildBoar

Haha, thought of the “Goodies”
“Father Christmas do not touch me”
Harry is obviously touched 😉

When I've sought help for depression, I've always been asked by doctors if I'm contemplating suicide - and my answer now is always the same:

`No, because I believe it's one of the most aggressive, selfish, thing anyone can do. It causes untold hurt to all around you. I just have to hold on to that thought until I feel better.'

So far, it's worked for me, although I once got to the point of writing out a list of everyone I could think of who might to feel burdened with guilt about not being able to help - family, friends, colleagues, neighbours, everyone at church. I just couldn't do it to them.

If Harry does take that course, I shall assume he did it out of spite to his birth family, a sort of `See what you made me do!'

---------

I send my deepest sympathy to all whose lives have been touched by such deaths of family or friends.
Ava C said…
Neat little comment from a DM reader today, comparing what the Cambridges and Sussexes represent. For the Sussexes - "Our brand is misery". Says it all I think. How can you go on marketing that before everyone starts running in the opposite direction? Even sugars would rather be "in their happy place".
Magatha Mistie said…

@Maneki

One of my favourites on the Yorkshire
coast is Robin Hoods Bay,
Haworth by the Sea!
Great pub overhanging the waves.
Filey, lovely Edwardian seaside town.
Flamborough, pretty cove, and caves.
Fraisthorpe, beautiful long beach,
with remains of WW11 bunkers!!

Great Fish n Chips 👌


O/T

Magatha - What about the chippy in Petergate, York? That's really something!
SwampWoman said…
Magatha Mistie said...

Belated condolences to @Swampie
on the loss of your father in law X
Dedicating “Friday Night Singalong”
to you 😘

Apologies to Dean Martin “That’s Amore”

That’s Devour-e

When she landed that Jerk
With her false toothy smirk
Thats Abhor-e

With a flick of the V’S
She fell to her knees
That’s Awhore-e

Bell’ she’s rung
Cling a bling a ring
Merch-ing a sting a kerch-ing
Her Encore-e

Let’s hope Abhor-e, Awhore-e,
Encore-e
Will soon be no More-e


ROFL! I shall try to print that out in calligraphese as a memento of these crazy times! (My very own poem! Woohooo! Thank you so much!) Dancing around, totally fangirling, not a pretty sight, look away, look away! (grin)
Maneki Neko said…
'The dash to tell Harry that Philip had died: Sheriffs were 'sent to Prince's £11m California home to alert him after 3am phone calls from US embassy in London failed to wake him''

Great comments on the DM.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9628985/Police-forced-visit-Prince-Harrys-home-alert-Prince-Philips-death.html#comments
Snarkyatherbest said…
There’s a story in the daily Mail about the police having to go to the harkles house to tell him prince Philip died. Weird article. Did it happen? Did it happen because the family didn’t want to hear on episode 65 of the Oprah Chronicles “they didn’t even call me to tell me my grandfather died”. They were called to the house on a wellness checkup because no one could get a hold of him for days on end? Just such a a weird story. Just Harry had to have known he was close to death. I’m going with the visit to the house was for a wellness check of some sort or another issue because we know how madam likes to switch up the reasons for event when they happen. And this time it wasn’t because an intruder and they had no security.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha

That’s Devour-e - another great poem!

OT: I don't know Yorkshire but should we visit the area, I'll bear Robin Hoods Bay in mind. Thanks.
Maneki Neko said…
@Snarkyatherbest

We posted about the call to H at the same time! I just saw the headline, didn't have time to read (going out). More weird stuff in Montecito.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Love one of the daily Mail commenters. “Maybe Harry wasn’t Woke” to hear the phone.
Magatha Mistie said…

@Swampie
In recognition of your delectable
snark, and wonderful home stories 😉
Magatha Mistie said…
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snarkyatherbest said…
Maneki Neko - great minds ;-)

Jessicas, so sorry about your brother. You and lizzie are right, if someone tells you they are suicidal you jump to action. A friend of ours received a text during dinner out with other friends that a friend was saying good bye. He had his wife call the police and he ran out of the restaurant in search of his friend. texting back that he wasnt alone was not going to help.

so its a five part oprah series - does this mean that we have 5 parts of whiny harry? or there are just 5 episodes of this series.

SwampWoman said…
The whole Harry and Oprah show about mental health makes me wonder whether it is our fast-paced modern society that is throwing people off kilter, or whether it was easier for people to commit suicide and look like an 'accident' in the past so that they could be buried in church cemeteries/consecrated ground? (Hunting accident, hiking accident, climbing accident, drowning accident.) I don't recall* people committing suicide from my high school past, but there are always a few every year here in the local schools. The constant news barrage of negative news would be enough to make anybody go over the edge.

Maybe the life tragedies that *everybody* experienced previously (so many infants and children dying, women dying in childbirth, an infected cut leading to the head of the household dying and throwing the family into instant poverty, orphaning at a young age) made people more resilient in previous eras.


*But they may have been called accidents
Magatha Mistie said…

Alas @WildBoar, Petergate Fisheries
changed hands a while ago.
Not so good!!
Getting close, bit further down.
Trollope tried, and failed!

Jdubya said…
Meneki - Although it's not unusual for one law enforcement agency to ask another to make a death notification (happens all the time), it is odd about H & PP. I am thinking they couldn't get in touch with them and wanted to make certain they knew before it leaked & the media got it. As said - that way they couldn't say they heard about it on the news vs a family member calling them.
Observant One said…
@AnT Thank you for the kind reply. I am a long time fan of Nutty and others in this community, from my former CDAN days. I abandoned that particular ship for political and humanitarian reasons. I am much more aligned with this group of charming and brilliant characters.

My thoughts on the name for the new reborn doll: something that will drive their miniscule fan base wild, or something from left field, like Archie. I am amazed by all of the different versions of Archie, and I would bet serious money that the pint sized actors who play him have never been in the UK. The Windsor debut was a reborn doll, who didn't move a muscle, and the Christening Archie was huge and looks nothing k like the Canada an UK versions. This whole saga reeks of delusional thought processes, otherwise know as barking mad.
snarkyatherbest said…
SwampWoman - add single car crashes to that list, and suicide by cop

we are fast paced and social media does not help at all, we think we have to have it all together or we have to do and have more than we have because we are bombarded with influencers, friends and acquaintances showing how to live the most fabulous life ever (or at least for that post) the photoshopping doesnt help either (and if you saw me now, you would definitely not see influencer; this gal needs a better comb this morning). There are certainly a lot going on that is impacting mental health. But Harry and the mrs and oprah (are there three people in this marriage) all gotta eat so telling people to not go on their phone every minute of the day, to delete you instagram and facebook accounts, dont engage in twitter and just live your life is not going to happen. Tell people "I hear you" and then go on instagram to tell everyone that you did that is all we are gonna hear.

Why does the woke crowd co-opt legitimate pain and suffering that people go through and then make us all desensitized to real issues that all of us go through. its just evil.
SwampWoman said…
@snarkyatherbest Just Harry had to have known he was close to death. I’m going with the visit to the house was for a wellness check of some sort or another issue because we know how madam likes to switch up the reasons for event when they happen. And this time it wasn’t because an intruder and they had no security.

Jdubya said...
Meneki - Although it's not unusual for one law enforcement agency to ask another to make a death notification (happens all the time), it is odd about H & PP. I am thinking they couldn't get in touch with them and wanted to make certain they knew before it leaked & the media got it. As said - that way they couldn't say they heard about it on the news vs a family member calling them.


This is a very bad thing to say about anybody, but I have to think that this was probably deliberately being out of reach on their part in order to monetize whining about the family ostracizing them and not letting them know for the next Oprah revelations.
Jdubya said…
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SwampWoman said…
Codicil to the above comment re: Harry not answering the phone. My answer is, of course, based on the veracity of the report. I would *think* that the DM had verified it through the police department, but I've been wrong before. Could be completely false.
Jdubya said…
https://www.tmz.com/2021/05/28/prince-harry-slept-through-phone-calls-prince-philip-death-cops-home-california/
SwampWoman said…
If the police were contacted to counteract anticipated whining, well played!
SwampWoman said…
Well, I have stayed inside far too long and it is going to be hotter than Satan's buttcrack outside. Y'all have a good day; I shall be outside sweating and (probably) swearing.
Observant One said…
@ SwampWoman and Snarkyatherbest

You are correct - back in the day, Coroners ruled many suicides as accidental deaths, for religious and compassionate reasons. My working theory is that life has gone from 0 to 100 within the past 20-30 years. In the early 1980s we didn't have voicemail at work or cell phones and email was not used extensively yet. Fast forward to today and we are bombarded with text,voice and email messages all day. Our brains have not yet adapted to the amount of information we are required to process. In addition,social media took "keeping up with the Jones's" to a whole new universe. Lately, the woke brigade has added bullying and threats to "conform, or else."
We need to step back, slow down and calm down. I am very hopeful to see some people (Sean Lennon in a DM article yesterday!) Speak out against these manufactured insults and the cancel culture. There is some hope starting to glimmer on the horizon.
abbyh said…
If the police were contacted to counteract anticipated whining, well played!

It keeps it "professional" and dignified as befitting Prince Philip.

Or because people knew that they have a bit of anger/frustration which might slip into their voice if and when they would be able to make contact.
The Cat's Meow said…
@Swampwoman....

Hotter than SATAN's BUTTCRACK ?!?!

Lol -- winner of the day!! A nice cool Gin & Tonic for you!!!
Maneki Neko said…
Re the phone call to H in the middle of the night, this comment in the DM is intriguing:

'woweewoowah, Cornwall, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

There is a u tube account that has people placed close to their mansion and they've said no one but staff have been living there for many weeks. They aren't even living together!'

Shades of déjà vu. And if Archie wakes up and starts crying in the night, do they not hear him? Don't tell me their phones were on silent. When my father was ill, I had my mobile on the bedside table and with the sound on.
Grisham said…
I have no idea who lives on my street, whether they are there or on vacation or what, and we have about 20 houses on this street.

How is anyone who lives in an area with 5+ acre tracts of housing surrounded by bushes and gates and gate houses supposed to know who is where and for how long?

That is just silly.
Grisham said…
By the way, I watched “a path forward” last night (the so called episode 6 of the me you can’t see) and it was very well done. It was a town hall with the 14 global mental health leaders in their fields and Glenn close, Zack Williams (Robin’s son) and a little piece about Fawzi (that poor boy has my heart.. bombing victim I think in Syria). Also, the lady with schizophrenia and I unfortunately forget her names.

The RF was never mentioned and no truth bombs were dropped. It was very interesting to hear the researchers and providers give their opinions on how to fix the global mental health access to help etc.

Harry did a good bit of a asking questions and he did very well. If he has been coached by Oprah or anyone on how to look and act like a professional, he is a quick learner. I am of the opinion that he is not stupid, that he has an excellent team managing his new career and that he is going to be a success in production and whatever else he plans to do.


One of the participants, I believe it’s the leader of NAMI practically begged for a sequel.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Swamp Woman,

I read the obituaries from my rather small hometown on a daily basis, because so many of my parents' generation are passing away.

I am amazed at the number of young people dying. There is at least one a day When the obituary talks about "I hope you have found peace", one can surmise that the cause of death isn't necessarily natural.

I think social media has a lot to do with it.

snarkyatherbest said…
Tatty - i kinda feel sorry for the neighborhood you are in Maybe its the pandemic where i live or all the kids but most people in the two block area knows whats going on - if people are on vacation, or if someone hasnt been seen neighbors will stop by to make a quick check to see if anything is needed (we have a mix of elderly, not so elderly - me Ha!, and young families) it has been a great comfort having people around. i guess i never really thought it differently elsewhere so i will put myself in the lucky column.
Magatha Mistie said…

@tatty
Is Harry, or any of his mob,
qualified in teaching
mental health?
Grisham said…
Snarky, yeah it’s a sad neighborhood— mostly rich people and you never know where they are or how long they will be gone (most have a vacation home). Heck, we just got a neighborhood FB page a month ago when I made it. We never know when someone has a health crisis (couple of 80-90 year olds) or when they have died. It’s starting to turn over to young people with small children, so we have just started to see people walking down the street, etc.

It was nice when we had the last hurricane in that it forced us all to get in the golf carts and drive around checking on everyone. We are all mostly on 1 acre plus lots, so I can only imagine when you are in a neighborhood of 5+ acres per house built for privacy with hedgerows keeping people from looking, etc.... how can anyone possibly no who is home or that no one is home?

Grisham said…
Maratha, I don’t feel like Harry did any teaching. That is what the 14 global mental health experts are for.

If anyone has Apple TV or is going to do the 7 day free trial, but doesn’t want to watch the whole series, I would say definitely watch episode 6 and maybe episode 1. In the totality of the series, Harry is barely in it.


I want to correct myself from what I said above... I don’t think Harry is going to be a success. I think he is now a success with this series. I think the Netflix doc on Invictus is going to be equally well done.
Maneki Neko said…
@Magatha said

@tatty
Is Harry, or any of his mob,
qualified in teaching
mental health?
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This is what I said upthread when I wrote that H's experience does not equate to a qualification in mental health. H is peddling the wife's views and this is dangerous. Neither is madam qualified, just because her mother is supposedly a psychotherapist.
Ava C said…
@snarkyatherbest - I've lived in places where neighbours don't know each other and it's exactly as Tatty says. No one wants to know anyone else in case it involves them in hassle later or niceties they just don't have time for. Every house in its own bubble. Now my family has moved to a little village in Scotland I can't get over how friendly people are. I forgot my earphones recently and was walking down the road in driving rain, hood up, head down, only to realise people passing on the other side of the street were still calling out hello. Now when I go out I never wear my earphones, so I don't miss other people's friendliness. We even had a pharmacy worker drop off some medication at our house to save us the walk. People give us cuttings from their gardens and offered to help during lockdown if we needed food. Lent us books about the local area. It just shows what a huge difference there can be. I just hope now we have found this haven we can stay here as long as possible!
Grisham said…
maneki, I am gently asking you if you watched the series?

I assume you didn’t because what you posted about him spouting her opinions is all wrong.
Grisham said…
Ava, that sounds lovely. I’m glad you found a friendly place. Yes, when we moved here nearly 2 decades ago, we first off noticed how closed off people were. They don’t open their circles to outsiders or people they don’t know. Very cliquish,
Grisham said…
Btw, I’m just letting Maneki and everyone know that if you watch episode 6, you will understand that the rags and the tumblrs and the Twitter comments and the rumors are all people who didn’t watch the series and are just spouting off things that sound good to them with no biases in reality.

Just watching episode 6 will show you this.
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AnT said…
@tatty,

So nice to hear that Harry can feel good about being a success with this series on mental health.

I for one never would have guessed that someone who relentlessly attacked his family as aged grandfather was dying, and who continues to attack and mock his elderly recently widowed grandmother after her long life of service, and who at nearly 37 years of age blames daddy for cancelling his allowance on worldwide television, could rise up as a caring, sympathetic tv host on such a topic (mental health). Isn't it a wonderful world we live in. You must be very proud of him. He was able to focus on his work, and not be distracted by how his brother might feel, or how his spouse treats her bankrupted heart patient father, who lives 70 miles away and who he and his little son have never met. I think this proves to the world that Harry can really focus on getting the job done for the praise and satisfaction of audience members, and you can take that to the bank.

Now it is an extra delight to think that the man who turned his back on the long-planned Deal memorial to persuade an uncomfortable movie mogul to give his wife a job, in public, and who shelved the "crucial" Invictus 2021 fundraiser which was set to have been streamed by Netflix rival Amazon, right after signing his multi-million dollar deal with Netflix,will be doing equally well with a high profile Invictus documentary FOR Netflix. How serendipitous and fortunate for him. He floats.

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snarkyatherbest said…
Ava C- sounds lovely. and yes we have a lot of plant swapping in my neighborhood.

On another note, just watched the behavioral guys on youtube with the oprah harry interview - the brit they have on there I could tell had a lot more he wanted to say about harry and the royal family When harry mentioned cycled the behavioral consultant said I immediately went to pics of harry on a bicycle and then one with him on the back of a bicycle with his dad, something he said never happened. Its worth a watch. Harry believes what he is saying. The tidbits they say about orpah and her wardrobe (some color shirt as harry) and her subtle mirroring techniques for confirmation and guidance gave me chills. They didnt say it but I felt like Oprah was grooming him. Those techniques must be why Oprah is a good interviewer but it is scary, especially if people have shrunk the circle of people around them because of covid not sure if it is all the wife that is helping to manipulate him. I think its a team.
Grisham said…
Here is the latest research that just dropped from the UK regarding climate crisis and it’s effect on mental health.

https://www.bps.org.uk/news-and-policy/bps-responds-new-report-climate-crisis-and-impact-mental-health


I’ll see you all later on. We are going on vacation and I have a lot to do before we leave.

Swampwoman, I’m headed your way along with thousands of other tourists lol. 🌴🌞🌊
AnT said…

@Maneki Neko wrote,

And if Archie wakes up and starts crying in the night, do they not hear him?

The million dollar question, isn't it?

snarkyatherbest said…
So is it the climate crisis that is impacting mental health or is it all the media attention (or some could call hype) and the greta thunbergs of the world that are helping create a culture of fear, and that is impacting mental health. There is little focus on things we can do (other than reduce you carbon footprint by sending $ to an organization that will plant trees) Harry mentioned that climate is causing the mental health crisis but what we dont hear are solutions and how people are empowered to make changes in their communities that are working. Oh something like EarthShot emphasizes. So it does raise the harry question - is he upset about the climate or about his brother. No that would be interesting for a psychiatrist to delve into.
That DM report is odd - hard to know if the H$Ms are living where they claim or not. Does the RF have their genuine address(es)?

Here if someone dies in hospital, the staff ring immediately, any time of day or night, in my experience. In cases of death by accident/assault the police do come to the house and as far as possible make sure the recipient is sitting down before they actually announce the news - to minimise the risk of fainting and falling.

Good idea though to ensure that H heard the news as soon as possible.
snarkyatherbest said…
WBBN - it is odd to have the police come by to tell someone their 99 year old grandfather passed away in his sleep. The report is more craziness. did it happen? is this the BRF way of saying we had to send someone to the house so they were notified before the press announcement (or so you wont whine to oprah) or is this their subtle way of saying someone was sent to the house now why would no one be answering the phone? if the rumors are true about them not living together, this could be the BRF acting all innocent about what is happening in Montecito (we know you are not together or at the house) and prompting people to ask more questions.
SwampWoman said…
snarkyatherbest said...
So is it the climate crisis that is impacting mental health or is it all the media attention (or some could call hype) and the greta thunbergs of the world that are helping create a culture of fear, and that is impacting mental health. There is little focus on things we can do (other than reduce you carbon footprint by sending $ to an organization that will plant trees) Harry mentioned that climate is causing the mental health crisis but what we dont hear are solutions and how people are empowered to make changes in their communities that are working. Oh something like EarthShot emphasizes. So it does raise the harry question - is he upset about the climate or about his brother. No that would be interesting for a psychiatrist to delve into.


I expect that anybody that is so worried about climate change that it is affecting their mental health doesn't go outside. Climate changes @ 4 times per year with the seasons (our seasons are hurricane season and not hurricane season). The western US has had hundred-year-long droughts that *weren't* caused by humans. The end of the ice age wasn't caused by humans. The year without a summer and mass starvation was not caused by humans.

The climate alarmists should probably be worried about the Holocene interglacial coming to an end. Alternatively, they could be worried about CMEs (coronal mass ejection) hitting the earth and the resultant loss of electrical power for a prolonged period of time. Yellowstone having a massive eruption would plunge us all into instant winter. Plasma discharges from the sun could incinerate portions of the earth's surface. A meteor could wipe out all life on the planet (again). WWIII will likely have AI killer robotic aircraft and viral warfare.

On my list of things to worry about, climate change is waaaaaay down there at the bottom of the list. If I'm going to worry, I'm going to worry BIG. Since my family would likely be opposed to living underground and storing 20 years' worth of food and other essentials, I'm going with "Don't Worry, Be Happy".
SirStinxAlot said…
@Snarky...Don't forget H whineing that Charles wasn't taking his calls (asking for more $$$), but H&M couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone when Prince Phillip passed away. Police had to be sent instead. Casts more doubt on H claims during the Oprah interview, especially since H has a documented history of "Don't call me, I'll call you" attitude. Given the Royal family knew Phillip was dying and H still didn't pick up says alot about his character. Just like proceeding with the interview while Phillip was in the hospital having heart surgery at 99 years old.
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SirStinxAlot said…
I doubt H talks to anyone at the palace without M in the background. Not allowed to pick up the phone(even to learn his grampa died) unless shes present to record everything for her documenting.
SwampWoman said…
tatty said: Swampwoman, I’m headed your way along with thousands of other tourists lol.

Aaargh, MY MENTAL HEALTH! Just kidding, have a great time. Ever so often I have to reflect that I live in a place where most people have to save up all year to visit on vacation.

To experience the REAL Florida, tourists should walk the 1,000 mile Florida National Scenic Trail. Since I can go outside and see scenic water moccasins and alligators (and I'm sure you can, too), we can give it a pass.

Believe it or not, most of Florida has switched to the dry season soon to be extinguished by the hurricane season and you may see some scenic wildfires (grin).
snarkyatherbest said…
SwampWoman - and here i thought you were in dc - you really do mean swamp!!!

SirStinxAlot - I could see the mrs telling H (that's what she calls him - ha!) that he needs to be away from his phone for his mental health. She probably has it and the passcode. Probably is texting sweet nothings to prince william and dagger emojis to Catherine.
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Henrietta said…
JennS, "Squatting"?
lucy said…
I just came across this list of their charitable endeavors of past year. Its 3 pages you have to swipe for other 2.

https://mobile.twitter.com/elias_amin1988/status/1396377094276456448/photo/3

AnT said…
@Snarkyatherbest,

Well, I look at it this way sometimes: when Branson, Obama, Biden and Jagger sell their sea-level island homes, I will know climate change is hard upon us in a way that is not the usual ebb and balance of nature noted through thousands of years.
Maneki Neko said…
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Maneki Neko said…
@AvaC OT

Your village in Scotland sounds lovely. We always found Scottish people very friendly. I am in London, although not central London but everybody is generally very friendly and we help each other where we can. Like you, neighbours have given us cuttings from their gardens and had us for dinner when we had a problem with our house. A friend from Manchester was told that no one would takes to her in London but found that was not the case.
Anyway, I'm glad you like where you are now.
AnT said…
@JennS,

So the police turn up at your home in the middle of the night urgently sent by an embassy, a big deal official embassy.

And the Someone who answers the door at last says something like, “Yah, I’ll tell him.”

And that is it. And they leave.

Um, it wouldn’t likely happen that way. I think they would not depart their official embassy high value information assignment that way without direct contact. This was a sensitive embassy communique from a monarchy via government pipeline channels.They won’t leave it with some Unknown guy or lady in sweats who answers the back door. This is Montecito and royalty, not Pooterville and “your cousin Bubba is drunk throwing cans off the Walmart roof again.”

Even if attending police were told by the house guard or staff that the duo isn’t there, but they’ll make a call in the morning, with follow-up, the staff would probably have to give contact information to the police to share with the embassy to complete their government mission.

Either it didn’t happen, or it did and someone wants us to know there is something funky in Montecito besides those old suede shoes.

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AnT said…
@maneki Neko,

Yikes! I was being rather sarcastic with my comment at 7:37PM. I adamantly do not think he is a success. I think he is a craven user, either being propped up the likes of Oprah or groomed by her. He is a fraud, no applause from me.

I don’t think Harry feels anything but the space in his jeans where his balls used to be.
SirStinxAlot said…
Curious, why would an aide or house staff be there at 3am? Security more likely. The Disastrous Duo made it clear after Archie was born they liked living alone, just the 3 of them. There was a very sensational article about it that was circulated after the night nurse was fired, and all the other nannies, babysitters, etc in less than 3 months time.
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AnT said…
@JennS,

I think it was the brilliant Aunt Jane on LSA who recently wrote that it seems that it’s Harry morphing into the tragic, family-outcast Diana role now, hijacking it from Meghan.

I absolutely see what Aunt Jane means. I also think this subtle switch maybe an Oprah-guided thing, and it will anger Megs to be shoved out of the golden light of the afterlife.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Mighty weird indeed! I hope it is a hint of Kraken in the air, don’t you? Perhaps a WIlliam-Jason K early baby gift of more press?

By the way, I read this morning that Lord Geidt was in action looking into and ruling on the case of a Matt Hancock issue of family members getting a cut of UK gov business, with the company owned by his sister and Hancock having a 20% share. He got a scolding a some tough scathing language from Geidt but ultimately got off by saying he (Hancock) had no idea his sister (and his share) made money off the UK gov in the pandemic.

I hope Geidt now turns back to advising William in all things Harkle. Charles and Andy would never need know.
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AnT said…
@JennS
@Maneki Neko,

Agreed that Harry diving into mental health Issues in his ignorant, easily led, self-interested way cannot be good. I feel further that his world is somehow eager to see more and more people feeling desperate, broken and wallowing in being despondent—to make victimhood the badge of honor.... the question is why?

I feel Harry has been told to focus on wounded versus warrior, if you see what I mean. To tell us we are all wounded and broken on the ground and we should admire victims, as if people don’t exist who go through things, accept and heal, and keep walking. I know people who have been through hell who would NOT like being called a victim of anything. I am not referring to those who need help, but rather this celebrity by victimhood for money gig.

I also wonder what will happen the day rose-colored glasses fan or a deep sugar has a child suddenly turn against them a Harry-style, or a daughter-in-law who teaches their son not to trust his parents, etc. Or a sugar is told they will never see their grandchild because the daughter-in-law feels they are a poor influence. Or they can see the baby only in exchange for money?

Harry is a hero only from the cheap seats.




Henrietta said…
JennS said:

That Daily Mail report about alerting Harry to the news his grandfather passed away is very very odd!
...Why would the UK embassy be involved in this trail of attempts to locate the elusive Hazza aka Loch Ness Monster?


Sorry, Jenn. I figured it out.

The part about the story I think is weirdest is that consular services flow in the other direction. The U.S. Embassy in London takes cate of U.S. citizens resident in the U.K.; the U.K Embassy in the U.S. takes care of British citizens in the U.S. (I'm sure they have a consulate in L.A.). Can't really think of why the U.S. Embassy in London would get involved in the notification of a death in the U.K.

When HazBeen and NeverWas originally went missing last holiday season and there were rumors she had been turned away at the Canadian border, I remember reading somewhere (it wasn't on this blog) that someone knew that NeverWas had gotten her passport renewed recently at the London Embassy. (She probably got Archie's passport there as well.) Because I think she was kicked out of the U.K., I have no doubt one of her first calls was to the Embassy (e.g., "Do you knoow what they're telling me?!"). Maybe Uncle Sam purposefilly had some people at the Embassy a "befriend" her and they got her private cell number and email address and the Embassy thought they could reach her-him more quickly. That I can see.

For whatever reason the consular services flowed the other way in this instance, it does show more distance between the BRF and Harry, undercutting NeverWas's whole, "I called the Queen up personally" untruth.

Definitely unusual.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Hmm maybe it was Archie the security guard who answered the door. Hes a short little guy but he's good at operating the ring camera. He doesnt carry a gun but he does know how to talk to people about anything. " Sorry mate, they are on a bender. it was a late night of white stuff and wig throwing and well they broke the last plate and the glass table. I'll let them know when they finally wake up. Give me the number and i will have someone call. Oh and be sure to hydrate you crocodile you. Did you know my grandma diana?" And then he signs - sos help me get out of here. im being held hostage!
Maneki Neko said…
@AnT said

Yikes! I was being rather sarcastic with my comment at 7:37PM.
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Thanks! Not having listened to the podcast/watched the series , I thought maybe for once H had done well and I erroneously jumped to conclusions. I know Tatty tends to see things differently from us at times. Anyway, maybe next time I should read/watch/listen before I comment 😆
Snarkyatherbest said…
Henrietta - I agree I think they threw her out and we are now seeing all the wrath!
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
All these glowing reports of how H is "finding himself" and giving an "authentic voice" to mental health problems. Well, he's learning how to be adept at reading a script, at any rate.

I'm reading too many snippets here and there on the internet about what a d*ck he was through most of his young adulthood. I'm even reading that he abused s*x workers near the base he was stationed to the point that none wanted anything to do with him. All these are allegations, of course.

But I've always thought he was a d*ck. Sorry.
Henrietta said…
Jenn, I think using the U.K. embassy-consulate sounds logical; the U.S. one not so much. One reason for not calling the police directly would be the police not being able to confirm identity over the phone whereas the consulate has secure communication links and staff who actively get to know U.K. citizens resident in the area.
Henrietta said…
Lieutenant, I'm still trying to get over the BG item about, "He gets too rough" (paraphrase). I just can't believe PC has let him get away with all that. But it die4s now ecplain why he left the army. They probably couldn't get rid of him fast enough. It also, in my opinion, suggests another reason for his marrying a mixed-race woman.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Henrietta said...
Lieutenant, I'm still trying to get over the BG item about, "He gets too rough" (paraphrase). I just can't believe PC has let him get away with all that. But it die4s now ecplain why he left the army. They probably couldn't get rid of him fast enough. It also, in my opinion, suggests another reason for his marrying a mixed-race woman.
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I've read that he didn't want a desk job, that's where they shove you when you're no good in the military. That's how it is with our American military, and I'd bet the house it's the same in the UK. And that's why he "retired."

I'll bet the stories these guys could tell would curl all of our hair.

As for M marrying him, she's the only one who would have him, LOL. Cressida Bonas is on record for saying "he's not a nice person." M and H deserve each other. I just feel sorry for A and the new baby. They don't stand a chance.
JennS said…
PIERS OFF Piers Morgan says Harry and Meghan should be stripped of Royal titles for ‘trashing the institution and causing damage’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/15102042/piers-morgan-harry-meghan-stripped-royal-titles-damage/
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Henrietta said…
Jenn said:

The whole thing doesn't make sense.
Something has been exposed with that story...exactly what, I'm not sure yet...


I really agree.

I believed the rumors on CDAN about MM repeatedly meeting delivery service people somewhere on her driveway, that sometimes there was a man with her (not Harry), and that some of the drivers got spooked.

My guess is that Markus was the man she owed a million pounds to, and I wouldn't be surprised if she owes others as well. When you owe that kind of money to "those kinds" of people, they come up with other ways to get their money back, esp. if they know her only realistic chance of paying it back is getting it from someone against whom the creditor has no legal claim (e.g., Prince Charles).
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JennS said...
@Lt Uhura
When Cressida said H wasn't a nice person it was thought she was referring to his cheapness - they broke up after he refused to pay for her airfare to his friend's wedding in the US.
I don't believe he beat anyone women up. I just can't see that.😢
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Well, when he's biting people's nipples .... and if he's strung out, maybe he wasn't aware of what he was doing, altho he should have been.

I don't think that Cressida was bothered about his cheapness per se, lots of aristos are the same, tho I'm sure it added to his overall unattractiveness. I think that was the final straw for her. JMO.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Henrietta said...

I believed the rumors on CDAN about MM repeatedly meeting delivery service people somewhere on her driveway, that sometimes there was a man with her (not Harry), and that some of the drivers got spooked.
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Oh, but she "couldn't get an Uber from the Palace to go see a psychiatrist for suicidal thoughts."

Mmm-hmm. 🙄
AnT said…
@JennS,

“PIERS OFF” —- ! Gotta love the wordplay. And that he stands his ground.

Rumor in London is he may be heading back to his old job soon, so Megs had better get a chinstrap for that wig.

Ziggy said…
CDAN:

Blind Item revealed: The A list celebrity you either love or hate, and really you should hate, is doing her best to get a photo op of a double date with the alliterate one. The whole plan is to have the double date and then have a cry fest in Kneepads because the alliterate one is pregnant and having a baby and the firebrand celebrity lost her baby, so then we will feel sorry for her and she can go back to playing the victim.

Chrissy Teigen/Meghan Markle
Henrietta said…
There's another comment on DM that's similar to the YouTube info that Maneki shared. I know another poster shared something similar as well; I just can't find the comment:

saraloui, Herts, UK...

"They don't live there. She's at santa ynez inn and he's at soho house. The house is back up for sale had been for a while and people has posted pictures that the guard house is empty. The only interesting thing is the royals have cut bait finally and left it to staff to let him know-he's out and no one in the family wants to talk to him."

I don't think it's that significant they don't have the money to man the guard house 24/7, but this thing about the Santa Ynez Inn is interesting. Why that hotel?

Also this does agree with the rumors of how she got kicked out of the Soho House in Cotswold last fall-winter after a screaming fight with a man about money she owed him. (I think this was Markus.) Harry is still welcome there, but she is not? That I would believe.

Anybody know anything about Santa Ynez or its hotels?
SwampWoman said…
Forget Santa Ynez hotels, concentrate on hospitals! Isn't she *heavily pregnant*?
SwampWoman said…
Looks like the stork will be visiting Santa Barbara.
AnT said…
Hmm. The Santa Ynez Inn is a very comfortable hotel, wine tasting, great staff. Very relaxing but classic SB luxury without being over the top. Mr AnT and I stayed there once on a little long weekend trip with friends who came down from San Francisco. It has a spa, so I can see why she might like it — a room service life seems her style especially if she is hunting for a next victim. I don’t recall seeing any children there, though, and it didn’t strike me as that kind of place, more like couples for romantic wine weekends (there were vineyards nearby) and a few businessmen having meetings in side rooms. Quiet, laidback, but very nice. A few nice restaurants we walked to. If she wants to hide and be pampered, yes. But Archie? No.
SwampWoman said…
Disclaimer re stork: It may have already delivered to the address specified, couldn't find the correct address and handed it over to the United States Postal system, dropped it at the embassy, went on strike due to personal abuse, or went on a drinking binge and is now hungover in a 12-step meeting.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman,

Theresa Longo Fans @BarkJack says the baby will arrive in 40 days, plus or minus 7 to 10 days. In other words, July 1-ish. Maybe she is at the inn now and then to interview potential babies and their agents!
SwampWoman said…
What about mystery child Archie staying with Harry at Soho House? I thought it was more party central and hook up place, but maybe I misjudged the family friendliness.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman,

Lol, no, I don’t think Harry would tote Archie into Soho House. I always remember the story of Jude Law’s son going to a little children’s birthday party in London at the Soho there, and swallowing an Ecstasy pill he found on the floor and being rushed to the hospital.

Maybe Archie went to stay with his real parents?
SwampWoman said…
IF she really, truly, cross her heart and hope to die stick a needle in her eye IS pregnant, she should be in the nesting phase. I was tired, felt like a whale out of water, waddled like a duck and wanted to be at home with my family. I was 20 years younger than she is.

I am ready to hear people remembering their last month of pregnancy!
SwampWoman said…
AnT said: Maybe Archie went to stay with his real parents?

At the house of the reborn doll artist that created him?
abbyh said…
I'm with Henrietta about the embassy on this one. When it (the death) had not yet been announced (information is power/money and the BRF in a not BRF town called Hollywood or LA), they would want to limit who knows at this point and it would open themselves up to all kinds of people they had no control over if they called local LE for a please let them know visit.

Tatty - thanks for watching that series that I have not wanted to. I may not agree with you on X or Y but I like that you make me think about why do I think this or why do I believe that. You make me a better thinker/analyst about this.

Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Hahaha, y'all are so cynical :)

I like it :)
Grisham said…
Thank you, Abby, I appreciate that.

None of us knows.

Harry did talk about his rescue chickens have grown back their feathers and are laying eggs. What I. don’t understand in the “no one lives there” theory why he wouldn’t live there while it’s for sale. Surely his office is at his home and that is a HUGE tax deductions. Plus. “Pics or or didn’t happen”... people have seen them out at these places and no pics and the only people who know about this exist in YouTube comments? Doesn’t seem legit. But what so I know?

Also, why wouldn’t it be publicized that it’s for sale? I would think in this hot market (I follow a Santa Barbara real estate website on Twitter and it’s absolutely insane there currently) the fact that Prince Harry lived there would be a huge selling point, and it would have already sold.

Ok. I have to get back to packing. We haven’t gone anywhere in a year and I forgot how much stuff the beach requires.
Grisham said…
Apparently episode 6 is free to all, so I would suggest watching that episode. In the least. Or half of it just to see.
SwampWoman said…
Thanks for reminding me, abbyh! Yes, tatty, thanks for watching the series. I've seen a piece when he said that Dodi Fayed wasn't white (wait, whaaaaat?) but didn't want to add to the audience. If he is actually following a script and doing well instead of whining about his family and can earn a fairly decent living doing such, good for him!
luxem said…
What if H is no longer a British citizen? There would be no reason to contact the U.K. Embassy in L.A. If the BRF couldn't contact him and had no "emergency contact person" in the US, it would make sense to contact the U.S. Embassy in London to ask them to call the local police to run the errand.

I watched the Body Language Guys video that was posted upthread. While one of them said H could be a good communicator with more practice, they agreed he had everything scripted and in some cases was saying things he didn't really understand. He not only mimicked Oprah's movements, but some of the word phrases he used were also used in her new book synopsis. It's like she is training a seal to perform for the audience and the seal is just waiting for the approval from his trainer! (Waiting for Oprah's approval was something else they pointed out.)

Something else they said is that H uses generalizations to get people on board with his view. In particular, they pointed out how he (and Oprah) made "The Media" H's boogeyman. But, he doesn't go into detail about what is it about "The Media" that is so bad (and one guy asked why he is talking to "the media" if they are so bad?). We all recall his statement "The First Amendment - it's bonkers" and a new one "Your country is either burning up or under water." In other words - bumper sticker phrases that people can relate to.

It's hard to imagine H doing this mental health schtick for long. For one thing, it's hard on your mental health! PW and DoC have their mental health work, and early childhood work, and all their patronages that give them a variety of things to do. Everything H has grabbed onto is mental health related.

Lastly, ever since Hot Rob mentioned the Netflix guy, Ted Sarandos, is his friend and lives in Montecito, I wondered if HE has something to do with the Harkles' house. Maybe Netflix bought Mudslide Manor to give the Harkles a respectable address since they only seem to be spokespeople at this point. That could explain why no one was willing to say what they were getting paid, unlike the Beckhams that everyone reported were getting $20 million.
Henrietta said…
Tatty said:

Also, why wouldn’t it be publicized that it’s for sale?


I used to follow some of the Kardashians. (IKR?) One of the tabloid articles explained how when the selling of a piece of real estate is sensitive, the agents would do something called a "pocket listing." They don't post anything online; the individual agent does it all (essentially finds a buyer). But the other agents know it's hush-hush. They don't confirm it with other clients. It all goes through that one person.
Henrietta said…
Here we go.

Joolz24, Croydon, UK. They've been registered as a commenter since Tuesday with a total of four comments.

"He didn't answer the phone when the embassy called!"

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