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Open Post: Still More to See with the Sussexes

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lizzie said…
@Luxem wrote:

"What if H is no longer a British citizen? There would be no reason to contact the U.K. Embassy in L.A."

Harry could not have become a US citizen that quickly. https://www.usa.gov/become-us-citizen
As the above link indicates, he'd have to have 3 years of residency/green card status (reduced from the usual 5 years since Meghan is a US citizen.)

And so far as I know, he's not a citizen anywhere else but the UK. Even if he wanted to (& I doubt he does), I don't think he could have given UK citizenship up because that would have made him "stateless."
Oh Floof said…
@Henrietta,

“Blogger Henrietta said...
Tatty said:

Also, why wouldn’t it be publicized that it’s for sale?

I used to follow some of the Kardashians. (IKR?) One of the tabloid articles explained how when the selling of a piece of real estate is sensitive, the agents would do something called a "pocket listing." They don't post anything online; the individual agent does it all (essentially finds a buyer). But the other agents know it's hush-hush. They don't confirm it with other clients. It all goes through that one person.”

You beat me to it. Pocket listings. My aunt and uncle did that. They lived in a very wealthy area and wanted to sell their home. But it was at the 2007/08 economic downturn, and several other homes in their neighborhood were already for sale. So they pocket-listed their house, with a realtor who specialized in luxury homes. If you drove through the neighborhood, you would see maybe 2 for sale signs. But if you knew where to ask, there were 10+ homes for sale. If several homes are for sale in a neighborhood, you risk the houses selling for less. By pocket listing the homes, the neighborhood still looked “exclusive and impressive” and the homes retained their value.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blah blah blah, inclusivity, blah blah blah diversity, blah blah blah community, blah blah blah healing, blah blah blah anti-racism, blah blah blah yt people are the scum of the earth ....

Etcetera, etcera, etcetera.

M and H's word salad in a nutshell.
Meowwww said…
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Meowwww said…
Just perusing Twitter and saw this about Harry
“This man’s growth was stunted to uplift his brother who is the heir to the throne instead of using him to bring the Monarch forward to the Current Times . What a loss to the RF but the World 🌎 has gained an amazing Humanitarian”
Barf. What does this even mean? The sugars were alllll over it.
@Henrietta,

You're right about pocket listings, but you can go even farther in terms of privacy. I recently sold a property and never used a realtor. The entire transaction was taken care of by my attorney and the buyer's attorney. It was never listed anywhere and no realtors knew about it until after the sale.
BBC News (Radio 4 6am) has just run the story of how they took the news to Montecito - no different from the story we've heard by other routes.
@AnT,

I agree that they wouldn't just speak to any person who answered the door.

They'd want to see H personally and give the message only to him. It's not like we're living with landlines anymore. H could be anywhere with his cell phone. Are we sure that his phone was turned off or was he in a state where he didn't care or have the ability to answer it?

I'm wondering if this had a dual purpose. A message about the passing of PP and a welfare check instigated by BP?
Maneki Neko said…

Interesting article about the fallout of H's Apple series.

https://tinyurl.com/kpruf97p
Miggy said…
@Maneki,

Excellent article. Thanks for posting! :)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
aren't you the master then, LOL:
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
We don't need to worrry :D
Maneki Neko -re your link https://tinyurl.com/kpruf97p

I'm wondering how this took me to Daniella Ellser's first rate article in NZ Herald, under a different URL?

Is that what tinyurl.com does?

Anyway, we can safely say that DE has seen the light!
JennS said…
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Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

The link, whether the full link or the tiny URL, takes you to the article in the NZ Herald. This is where I saw it in Newzit. All tinyurl.com does is shorten the link.

If only H could read the article... but the penny still wouldn't drop.
SirStinxAlot said…
@ maneki... I couldn't help but notice M is the only one with a title here. I stopped at this point:

Ever since Harry and wife Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, opened up to Oprah in March, their denunciations of the royal family have started cropping up with a certain predictability that is now verging on the monotonous.
Thanks, Maneki - all is clear!

I thought the same as you. Perfectly happy with cognitive dissonance, totally gaslighted, he has to believe what she says otherwise retribution will swiftly follow.

Lacks the guts to accept that the situation he's in isn't right, in any sense of the word, and he is incapable of doing anything sensible about it.

xxxxx said…
As far as Hapless not being able to answer the phone upon Prince Philip's death. This must be a release from The Palace. Who else would know? Who else would have any interest in embarrassing Hapless this way. Plus this info shows H The preacher to be an incompetent boob, maybe a stoned one.

A real laugh all ways around.
Maneki Neko said…
@SirStnxAlot said

I couldn't help but notice M is the only one with a title here.
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Well spotted, @SirStinx. I read it quickly and didn't notice. I wonder why M was given her title and not H.


@Wild Boar said

he has to believe what she says otherwise retribution will swiftly follow
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Possibly true but at the same time, does he even realise the enormity of what he is saying? He is so indoctrinated that I fear he's swallowed the wife's psychobabble hook, line and sinker. Two words: Stockholm syndrome.




Hikari said…
That release about the Palace being unable to contact Harry is interesting. Multiple interpretations:

1. “We have tried all official channels. He refuses any and all communication, even relating to the most grave of matters.”
2. “We have sent agents to their listed address but were unable to establish contact with either Harry or the wife. We don’t actually know where they are, only where they have told us they are.”

The takeaway can only be that H is callous, spiteful, or so compromised in some way (mental incapacity, drugs/drink, or even physical restraint/incarceration, that he is incommunicado. If he is an agent acting under his own free will, then he is showing his contempt for the family whom he expects to continue to derive wealth and position. If he is under coercion of some kind, and being prevented from communicating with his family or answering his own alleged door...Then it’s something way more sinister. Cults refuse their new recruits any contact with their former family members because the cult teaches them that THEY are the new family and demands complete devotion and a severing of all former ties.

Yet Harry’s former ties are still crucial to supporting his new lifestyle of “freedom” in the US.

Is the RF dropping the first salvo in a strategy to have H declared incompetent/a vulnerable person? What if Archie and her current “babymaking” scheme? If the RF has no knowledge of H$M’s current whereabouts and communication has been severed, they will have plausible grounds for not acknowledging the latest spawn.

H had gone beyond “troubled”. He is a ticking time bomb.
Yes, Stockholm Syndrome - I thought this sentence from Wikipedia says much:

`A hostage's belief in the humanity of the captor because they cease to perceive the captor as a threat when the victim holds the same values as the aggressor.'

What values? The following come immediately to mind:

Freedom to do exactly as they like without consequences.

Love of money.

Love of power.

Disdain for ordinary folk.

Lack of concern for birth families.

Enjoyment of similar `pastimes'.


I'm sure other Nutties can add more.
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SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, California is the poster child of allowing crazies to free range. I would say that he is untouchable through official channels. If being stupid or telling lies about their backgrounds was considered signs of incompetency, wouldn't most of Hollywood as well as the political world be considered incompetent (well, by people other than myself)?

I would not be at all surprised if there were some people attached to the British Consulate that were watching him, however.
AnT said…
@Hikari,

Excellent comment, and it made me remember something. Years ago, a friend's father and uncle were Boston policemen. At family parties in the summer, they'd sometimes tell stories about their beat days before they moved to desk roles. The best stories were the uncle's who was somewhat older & had started policing during the late 1960s, working the 70s into the 80s.

He would tell us stories about the old days, the crazy calls that had to do with rock stars in town back then causing a ruckus, Brit rockers, Irish bands, known US actors, etc. Boozy anthems in the middle of the night, domestic squabbles with groupies, angering someone in the Junior League, running off with a displeased "old Bostonian's' daughter, silly hotel antics, an Italian actor's wife in fits at the Ritz over her AWOL acting hubby. Funny stuff, mostly, nothing terrible.

But I remember they mentioned they'd sometimes be sent by a consulate or a US government office, to track down one of these guys, when the consulate for example had no idea where they were and a relative or spouse was calling frantically. I do not recall why, but it was something like the Boston cops always knew pretty well where everyone who was anyone was through "the grapevine".

Once in Boston, Brookline actually, two friends from polo dragged me at about 1 am until 3 am to an old Irish Brookline bar to sit at a table and talk about life and poetry with some members of a band you would recognize. I can't remember how the girls knew them -- they weren't groupie types, just well educated, well traveled, connected rich girls about 23-24. I learned later there was something going on in a back room as we chatted out front, re a political meeting. They chose that bar because "the cops are okay with it" meaning the band or similar being there at that time of night doing whatever. But, in an emergency even at 3 am before cell phones, the cops would have known where to go.

So, if modern day Montecito is a little like that, perhaps the police were sent because the embassy could not track the couple, and they(embassy) reached out knowing the local police/firemen on the beat might know (for basic town security principles alone) where celebs were bunked, or staying, or likely to be found. Police in high value areas maintain a grapevine.

Just a theory.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid said,

"...because they cease to perceive the captor as a threat when the victim holds the same values as the aggressor.'

What values? The following come immediately to mind:

Freedom to do exactly as they like without consequences.

Love of money.

Love of power.

Disdain for ordinary folk.



WBBM, this ^^^^ is genius. Excellent. I think you've figured this out.

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AnT said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis said,

@AnT,

I agree that they wouldn't just speak to any person who answered the door.

They'd want to see H personally and give the message only to him. It's not like we're living with landlines anymore. H could be anywhere with his cell phone. Are we sure that his phone was turned off or was he in a state where he didn't care or have the ability to answer it?

I'm wondering if this had a dual purpose. A message about the passing of PP and a welfare check instigated by BP?



Apologies, JB, I somehow missed this comment earlier, so replying now. My thoughts:

1) Welfare check certainly possible

2) Legit needed to get the message through, but H changed his cell phone # or blocked the royals or forgot to pay the bill, or switched it off, so someone had to be sent

3) Someone in the RF wants to know just what allllll the money being wired to the Harkles' account is being used for. Is there really two million dollars' worth of Security? Is there really a giant mortgage on a giant mansion? Is there a child (because, lo, maybe Pippa and James Middleton read this blog or others and shared a thought, or because Lord Geidt is back and ready to lower the boom?

Just thoughts.

Opus said…
I was intrigued by what Henrietta had to say as to the role of the consulate in L.A. Maybe she is right but when I arrived in D.C. I phoned the embassy as I thought that perhaps they kept a list of British residents (so naΓ―ve of me) but a very nicely spoken English woman at the embassy told me that as America was a friendly country that was not something they did. Of course there are so many British in America I can only cringe at my naivety but unlike Harry I am not important.

Last night in the pub talking to my friend he opined that Bashir was the scapegoat and Diana knew exactly what she was doing and of course they always blame the scapegoat. That was what he said.
AnT said…
@Jocelyn'sBellinis,

hmm, and

4) the RF wanted to establish if MM and H are still together or not, per other intel they have received, which would affect the amount of money put into the pot during a negotiation of separation or title removal.

5) If they aren't living together, are with other partners, this is all a fake and MM is still with Markus for example -- the gray men can now tell the Queen what they discovered at 3 am, and she might say, well, fine then, remove the titles then, we don't want a duck in the warming pan with our name on it.

6) BECAUSE PERHAPS SIMULATANEOUS 3 A.M. "visits" TO SOHO HOUSE, SANTA YNEZ INN, and OPRAH's HOUSE were conducted to "cover all the bases" and establish the whereabouts and lifestyle habits of the Harkles. DID MM answer the hotel room door in the night WITHOUT HER BUMP ON, for example? Using police, in the dead of night, one would certainly get more doors to open and more information to be found.

I would actually like to think that Prince Philip set this up.

"Cabbage," he intoned, holding her hand, "When my time comes, let's fudge the hours a bit like crazy Harry did with the baby, so that the coppers must turn up at their California house and a few other spots the Yard has mentioned in the middle of the night. Then we'll get some answers, eh? In fact, my Dear, let's do it right before I go, a day or two before the Quacks lay the boom on my, right as they start clicking their tongues and writing up the bill, eh, so you can tell me what they found out! Public won't mind, and nice bit of fun for Chuck and Annie, they will love it! Great sport, eh, great sport! Never marry an actress, what ho? Have Geidt throw it together, good man, good man, you could do worse, bring him back in, sod Andy! Boy needs to lose weight, Geidt can get Andy back on the trot, ha! And Chuck needs to learn from a cool head."

Yes, I have just convinced myself that Philip died a full day later, laughing, patting her hand, "now you know what to do."
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Right, so this is kind of O/T, but for the oh-so-woke H's ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffyMzUJq8LU

This was recorded in San Diego. Notice how everyone walks past this incredible music.

Eh, okay, back to your regurlaly scheduled programs :)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
PS .... Flight of the Condor is a very much favorite :)
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I doubt if H is even aware. William is, he did a whole year there.
AnT said…
@Opus,

Does your pub friend make his living overseeing the license fees and fining skint old people for Auntie Beeb, by chance?

Just kidding. Though I kind of love the idea of a pampered giggling former nanny ruthlessly outsmarting the Kings College-made Bashir at every turn, tears gushing from her artfully outlined eyes, I sort of doubt she was that clever.


JUST OUT ABOUT BASHIR'S NEXT ATTEMPT AT AN INTERVIEW:

Diddy’s former publicist says that the rapper dodged a bullet — after scandal-struck journalist Martin Bashir aggressively tried to land a blockbuster interview with the Bad Boy star.

Bashir was once Britain’s hot-shot reporter, wowing the world by landing blockbuster sit-downs with Princess Diana and Michael Jackson.

But last year it was revealed that the British journo had used shady tactics — including allegedly falsifying documents — to convince Diana to do the 1995 interview.

Now, Diddy’s former longtime publicist Rob Shuter has revealed on his podcast “Naughty But Nice with Rob” that Puffy was the disgraced journalist’s next target.

And Shuter said that Bashir even “flirted” with him to try and win him over.

“Within months [of the 2004 Michael Jackson show] he called me himself to meet me to do Diddy,” said Shuter. “He wanted Diddy to be the next one in the trilogy. And I was such a Michael Jackson fantastic growing up, Martin Bashir calling me flattered my ego.”

“He took me to dinner at The Soho House. He worked me. He flirted with me. He emailed me. He played, he giggled all to get Diddy,” said Shuter.

But he said the rapper shut it down.

“So, I spoke to [Diddy] and was like ‘Martin Bashir wants to do you next after Michael Jackson.’ Puff was like ‘Hell no! I isn’t sitting down with him’.”

Shuter said that Diddy made the right call, “But I got to see Martin Bashir and I got to see how he worked. And how he manipulated and how he touched your knee when you were sitting there. Clearly he knew I was a gay boy. I’ve never ever had that happen. When Diane Sawyer would interview my clients, she didn’t touch my knee.”

Shuter — who also repped Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Lopez, Paris Hilton and many others over the years — said that Bashir sent flowers to his office.

“You would think we were dating. It was wild and creepy,” he said.

“I knew I was being played,” he said, “I knew it.”
AnT said…

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The link to the Bashir/Diddy/Shuter story I have quoted from above:

https://pagesix.com/2021/05/28/shady-journo-martin-bashir-tried-to-interview-diddy-after-diana/


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SwampWoman said…
Interest, AnT. If this is true (remember, recollections may vary!) then Bashir is an expert manipulator and *very* good at reading people.
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SirStinxAlot said…
I would be surprised if the RF released this. TMZ is M connection. Maybe the Disastrous Duo are trying to make it look like the RF wouldn't even call H$M to let them know Prince Phillip had died to reinforce their victim narrative. They just sent police instead of speaking to the poor abandoned, neglected Sussexes.
AnT said…
@JennS,

Well, because anyone can leak to TMZ.

• American-bred PR industry guy, Jason K., for William

• Someone managing the Montecito property, or working there and who dislikes the Harkle game

• The wife of a Montecito policeman

• A neighbor who heard the talk

• Oprah's team

• Gayle King via Oprah's team, to stir the water

• Lord Geidt or similar advising the Palace to "make it known" via someone they know in the US

• MM as you suggest. While it doesn't seem to us (being sane) to benefit MM to suggest they keep the phones off at an important time, and don't hear sounds at night, with a baby in the house...that side of it would never have occurred to her if she doesn't have a baby in the house, or is a shi**y parent, or is an uncaring daughter-in-law. Hmmmm!

She might have simply thought it made such a home visit made them
(1) look very important like VIP celeb royals to be awakened from their passion slumber by the official embassy; or,
(2) made them look unloved so mere police let them know, as others have mentioned here.

But, I persist in thinking the release of this night visit story was done by someone who is not fond of them or their antics.


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AnT said…
@SirStinxALot
@JennS,

......or, using the theory this was an MM planted story....

....is this meant to serve as a attention-seeking re-enactment of the first middle-of-the-night calls to Charles, and the Queen, at Balmoral when Diana had her ultimately fatal car smash in Paris?

Then, they can tell Oprah the police knock at door brought back the trauma of that night to Harry! Fresh trauma.

.... and they are all set for episodes 7-20 of The Me You Can’t $ee.

With brave Meghan in the role of Charles, deliverer of bad news to The Boy in the Trauma Bubble.

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AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

Lol! Thanks for the update on the educational background of Bashir.

While I am of the opinion that the school does not make the man or woman, the brain and life expectance does (I have known a few utterly stupid graduates of Harvard, Stanford, Cornell to name a few, and the stars fell from my eyes; whereas I have known and worked with brilliant people with degrees from nowhere schools, and even two with no university degrees at all who created a multibillion dollar company and, entirely from their own pockets, founded and funded an amazing charitable foundation to educate disadvantaged kids), I take your point.

However, Bashir did his Masters in Theology at King’s College, London. Theology! πŸ€”πŸ™„

Does that change your opinion?
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Elsbeth1847 said…
However, Bashir did his Masters in Theology at King’s College, London. Theology!

What good does having all that theology knowledge if you apparently failed at ethics on how to get ahead.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

PS—-the eye roll was not about the study of Theology, but because what a thing for an opportunist to study, and because it reminded me of the Archbishop of Canterbury Welby, the other fly in the pie!

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AnT said…
@Elsbeth 1847,

We had the same thought re Theology and Bashir. Exactly. I just made my thought clearer above, so people wouldn’t think I was looking down upon Theology, when it is just the man Bashir studying that subject who I am scorning!
I've taken down my comment in case I've got it all wrong. I shall repost when I've sorted it.
AnT said…
@Wild Boar Battle-maid,

Your comment wasn’t “wrong” — it just leaves out the bit about Bashir’s Theology Masters from Kings College London.
Amended Post:

Ant T - Gee thanks, but I thank the Wiki entry for the idea.

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Sorry, I can't find who mentioned this now - places called `Kings':

Excellent ones - King's College, Cambridge, and King's College, London.

Both are world class – King’s London is respected for its theology. It was founded as a counter to the `Godless Institution of Gower St’ ie University College. I once paid my £10 to do an external BD (Bachelor of Divinity) but didn’t get any further than that.

The other one, of which Bashir is also an alumnus:

Winchester University (formerly King Alfred's College - one of the new universities, upgraded from a diocesan teacher training college (only 2 A-level passes needed in my day).

It made its way up to a `College of Higher Education' but cheekily claimed the title of Univ.of Winchester before it got its Charter. Very naughty.

Don't believe their puffery - students rank it as 86th out of 131 (WUSCA ranking) and the Complete University Guide 105 out of 130 - and those are how it's ranked among British Universities!

One of my university contemporaries taught there and I asked him what he thought of the students and their qualifications

- he said `We're so desperate for teachers they only have to pass the mirror test'

`Oh yes?'

`They hold a mirror to their nostrils and if it mists up, they're in.'

That was about the time Bashir was there.

Despite the CofE background, one member of staff was into Wicca. Later, I shared an office for a time with one of his protΓ©ges.

It may have improved since then.

I’ve no idea how much formal theology/ethics MB might have done.

I have a very scholarly friend (her field is Old Testament) but she was telling me about some of the ludicrous research proposals that get accepted these days .

We don't know what Bashir's dissertation/research thesis was – perhaps even something like:

The Comparative Role of Catholic and Calvinistic Theology in Seventeenth Century Witch Hunts’ ` (my guess as to what someone who did English & History at KAC might be interested in.)

Perhaps a valid enquiry but not one demanding self-examination.
Zara has pics in the DM. The way she is carrying her baby and pictures of the baby looking lively and awake have completely shattered any inkling that Meghan was carrying a real baby at the polo match.

Meghan and her Darren doll are now confirmed in my mind.
Snarkyatherbest said…
AnT. Hmmm if she planted it to tmz maybe it was to get ahead of a story on a welfare check. Weird about the security person since supposed my they do t have any or have to pay for their own. Maybe they are not together and only Harry has security at the house. All it does is confirm nothing is straight forward with those two. None of their stories are straight. Ever.

Interesting by about diddy and bashir. Soho house?
They most likely have security. That subject was the source of the fallout with the RF. Meghan and Harry went on, and on, about his entitlement to security. In their manifesto, Meghan referred to her 'own independent profile' and her need for ongoing security.

Harry specified in the Oprah interview that he dipped into his Diana trust fund to pay for his security and that this is why he favors his mother now (she's looking out for me).
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger JennS said...
xxxxx said...
As far as Hapless not being able to answer the phone upon Prince Philip's death. This must be a release from The Palace. Who else would know?

Hikari said...
Is the RF dropping the first salvo in a strategy to have H declared incompetent/a vulnerable person?
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@XXXXX and @Hikari

Re the story about Harry not answering his phone when the RF tried to reach him with the PP news...I'm not sure that this info came from the palace based on where it originated. The story was first told through TMZ. I don't think the RF would leak through an American celeb tabloid.

So this begs the question - WHO was it that could have leaked this info to TMZ?
What do others think about the possible source?
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TMZ might come across as "tabloid," but they jealously guard their sources and/or future lawsuits. Notice no lawsuit coming from H and M. Frankly, I trust their publications much more than others. It's quite possible the RF leaks through them. I'm glad they do, if so.
Miggy said…
Apologies if already posted.

Latest Lady C video.

Meghan GASLIGHTING HARRY? Royal Family & shutting him up/Hollywood Golden Age Ja residents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VTqMwLHEU
SwampWoman said…
Thanks, Miggy; haven't had the television on all day. Will watch it tonight.

Re Harry saying mummy was still taking care of him via his stealing from her trust fund: I wouldn't be bragging about that, sport. Makes you look like a whiny loser.

I don't know why he keeps going on about security. After all, if sending out social workers is good enough for the hoi polloi, why not him? After all, he's just another actor now.
AnT said…
@Not Meghan Markle,

The normality and liveliness of Zara’s baby. +

Plus the look of horror on the face of those “polo baby” spectators. +

Megs carrying her limp “baby” by the neck as she pap walked her pooches in the Canadian park.
AnT said…
@Snarkyatherbest,

Glad you picked on the Soho House reference too, 😎
This is a completely new idea, so I would like some feedback as to whether Nutties think this is possible.

To paraphrase Scientology founder L .Ron Hubbard, the quickest way to make money is to start a church. MM and H have become more "pious" in the last year or so, such as MM crossing her hands in that Madonna-like gesture, and now H is doing the same through his therapy, as we saw onscreen. They are setting themselves up as the world's saviors.

Do Nutties think MM may have thought of starting her own church, along with Oprah, if she decides that politics is not the way to go. We know that Oprah and MM would love the tax advantages and the relatively easy way to wash or funnel money to certain people and places.

AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,

Wow.

Yes.
@JB & AnT, I'm sure her mother would know exactly what to do and be a great help, too.
Elsbeth1847 said…
New Religion? that is an interesting thought.

In order for that to work, you have to have some sort of message to the masses, a belief system which explains how you have found the one true path, ability to have wide spread access in such a way that people will go there instead/can't of where they were before and ... be somewhat believable.

Oprah is likeable by most people still but 6 and wife? They would have a harder sell without the BRF behind them. And the BRF, so closely linked to the Church of England would be difficult to explain away.

Many would manage to work in comparisons of this Prince Harry to the other Prince Henry VIII and jokes about replacing his wife like VIII did will be fodder on the comedy circuit after they first laugh about it on Saturday Night Live. As others have pointed out, they appear to be a little thin skinned about a lot of things and jokes would most likely be in that list.

I would see it as something O would inspire, somewhat support but not be so closely tied to it that if it crashed, she would go down too. If it took off, she could still step into the spotlight.

but that is an interesting idea
Este said…
@Hikari: That release about the Palace being unable to contact Harry is interesting. Multiple interpretations:

1. “We have tried all official channels. He refuses any and all communication, even relating to the most grave of matters.”
2. “We have sent agents to their listed address but were unable to establish contact with either Harry or the wife. We don’t actually know where they are, only where they have told us they are.”

The takeaway can only be that H is callous, spiteful, or so compromised in some way (mental incapacity, drugs/drink, or even physical restraint/incarceration, that he is incommunicado.

I agree. I think if the RF is leaking this info, it's a rebuttal to Harry's assertion that he's been frozen out by his family. I think it's a sly way of showing up the lies and undermining their credibility. That's how I read it anyway.

@Jocelyn'sBellini...fascinating theory about the church but I don't see that panning out. I don't think Meghan has the talent for that level of grift and I think she's doing fine (for now) with the woke grift. Americans are sick of woke politics and her quarter will run out at that time. I could see Oprah trying to do her own church. That's highly plausible because she needs to be center stage and a Church would take her to the next level in the authority game that plays to her massive ego. But I don't see her taking a bit player like Meghan with her. What would she bring to that racket? Not enough to justify sharing the stage with her. I think Oprah say blood in the water and went in for the kill. She's feeding off Meghan and Harry and will drop their carcass after she's had her fill.

jessica said…
AnT,

Do you think Meghan and Harry are laughing up a storm at the fact they won the minor lawsuit against Splash (the photog for the forest pics) over ‘Archificial’?

You’d think Splash’ lawyers would have first asked Meghan and Harry to prove in court they had a baby, and had custody of the baby, and that the subject in the carrier was verified on the day as a real live baby (by witnesses, aka her security staff that were also in the photo).
@Ant,
@Constant Gardener,

Glad to know that I haven't gone off the rails and others think it could be a possibility.

Kanye has/had his own church, Kim K and family have/had their own church, and Beiber was thinking of starting one.

I read that Doria just happened to meet Oprah in their church in LA (not sure if this is true). Then, Doria shows up at Oprah's talk and was in the audience. I definitely think Doria would be involved unless MM has dumped her, too. We haven't seen much of Doria lately.

jessica said…
Also,

Where’s Markus?
JennS said…
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@este,

Thanks for your input. Who knows if this is a possibility, so I'm leaving it open as just an idea.

Yes, I can see Oprah wanting to have her own church, and this could be where MM and O part ways. As MM gets more aggressive in wanting her own church, those two massive egos would do battle.

AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33:

Yes — holy Doria, at the center perhaps, praise from the whole world thus far for doing what exactly? Just a few steps to cult status. Then, totally tax free donations (like Kris Kardashian Jenner and her church), powered by Oprah’s engines. I could see it. It doesn’t take real religion or spirituality, just a truckload of sugars, and a rollout plan. MM doing the talking as Doria sits in zen solitude with rune stones!

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AnT said…
@Jocelyn’sBellinis,
Sorry meant to include you on my response to Constant Gardener about the church thing.

@jessica,
With the Splash suit over the doll snaps, I was screaming “demand proof of life!” But then it hit me. If they play along w Megs, they make money off photos of “baby”....and they could in fact have helped encourage a mini “lawsuit” in which they and Megs get publicity for the whole thing and she gets credit for having a real baby with her, not a doll. So a little lawsuit, so a little mea culpa and little settiement. After the suit is over, both sides meet, split the money and proceed. Hand in hand. Yes it happens. Albeit she may have screwed them over in the post more, and not split the money.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
@ConstantGardener33:

Yes — holy Doria, at the center perhaps, praise from the whole world thus far for doing what exactly? Just a few steps to cult status. Then, totally tax free donations (like Kris Kardashian Jenner and her church), powered by Oprah’s engines. I could see it. It doesn’t take real religion or spirituality, just a truckload of sugars, and a rollout plan. MM doing the talking as Doria sits in zen solitude with rune stones!


May 30, 2021 at 2:06 AM
Blogger JennS said...
Lt. Nyota Uhura said...
TMZ might come across as "tabloid," but they jealously guard their sources and/or future lawsuits. Notice no lawsuit coming from H and M. Frankly, I trust their publications much more than others. It's quite possible the RF leaks through them. I'm glad they do, if so.
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@Lt
Thanks for this info.
Before I left my post wondering who leaked the story to TMZ other than the palace, I actually looked TMZ up on Google. Prior to Markle I had never been much of a celeb watcher and wanted to clarify what type of news source they are. They appear to be 'classified' as a tabloid. I don't think that means they are not reliable. The Daily Mail has uncovered and printed a lot of stories about the Sussexes that have ended up being true. I've included a lot of their stories on my own blog.
Out of all the potential UK and US sources, I was just surprised to see this story come from TMZ. I think that makes the story even more intriguing!
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I am EXTREMELY suspicious of these outfits. All of them. TMZ seems to be one who has lasted. No one seems to have successfully sued them. And yet they seem to get the scoops.
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AnT said…
@JennS,

I am so sorry for the confusion! My goodness, please, you write clearly and extremely well. This is on me. I am just way too distracted this week and bouncing between this and something else. I am missing posts and reading too fast and poorly as I get yanked back to the computer. My apologies.

Don’t know about you, but the more I look at things lately, the less problem I have imagining the RF chopping their way out of circa 1536 ice block and deciding to launch a modern firefight.

Could someone (a fk-it-all Jason and William, with a nod and fist bump) start adding TMZ etc to their own PR repertoire? I think there’s a possibility.
AnT said…
@JennS,

I remember those images of a. ivy-covered abandoned-looking gatehouse, They were posted originally by a Skippy poster who said she decided to drive by while on a weekend road trip or vacation.
Henrietta said…
JennS said:

@Henrietta

I had forgotten about private listings. Are pocket listings basically the same as someone including non-celebs selling their homes privately without using a real estate agent?


No idea! Sorry. I only remember the article about Khloe K selling her marital home like that. Nobody knew it was on the market until it sold. So I know it's possible to do.

In her case, the home and its safe had even been broken into, supposedly by drug dealers who had a payment dispute with her ex Lamar.
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abbyh said…
Maybe the reason to whom the message was relayed is being withheld for a later drop or some sort of message to them (pressure)? (sorry if someone already mentioned this idea)
Natalier said…
@AnT

You may have something there regarding the knock on the door by the police bringing news of Prince Philip's death for episode 7-20 of The Me You Can’t $ee.

No way did the palace use TMZ. It is a tabloid through and through, helmed by Harvey the lawyer. My guess is it was released by the viper aka wife for several purpose:
- to keep them in the news
- to show their importance and continued link to the royal family
- their exclusivity that noone can reach them because they are sooooo private; kind of a "Don't
call us, we'll call you".
- for future episodes on how the whole world was frantic to get the news to them

Episodes 21-30 of Me You Can't S$$ will be about how 6 copes with the anxiety attacks from the sound of horse hooves (great reason to show him at the funeral, playing polo and at TTC); sound of flashing lightbulbs (all his last few official events where the viper was with him) and his depression with the state of the world on his shoulders till he could barely get out of the in the morning (flash pics of him and viper in Australia among the huge trees, at the beach). The viper wife will make sure her pics are included in the show whenever possible.


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AnT said…
@JennS,
* Could be angry security guards or staff, absolutely. I doubt a single Harkle employee is happy, so could even be marketing going rogue.
* The overgrown gatehouse photos were taken within weeks of their alleged move in date in July 2020 — I remember that because I thought at fine time, well, they just got there — then realized that made no sense as guard gatehouse would be absolutely ready to go at that point.

@abbyh,
That is a pretty brilliant theory. That would be some sharp aggressive mind gaming on the Harkles. I like it.

@Natalier,
If we think it’s something other than abbyh’s theory or JennS’s rogue staffer theory, yes, I do see this being planned as fodder for their ridiculous series. I think your episodes 21-30 ideas are solid, and pretty likely to happen.

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AnT said…
@JennS,

Law enforcement sources.......a desk staffer, a call taker, a spouse, a bored teen son of a cop, the lady who filled their morning donut order? Could be anyone along the way?

...would our first tio be: “we think there are at least two unrelated unsupervised children living with two drunks in a guest house at Oprah’s”?
JennS said…
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@Henrietta,

Pocket listings go through a realtor, and there are chances of gossip still spreading through the realtor firm and on from there. When you use lawyers, the info stays private from everybody but the buyer, seller, and their attorneys. Using lawyers can be more expensive than a pocket listing, and isn't used as much as pocket listings, even among the elite.
@Henrietta,

I forgot to answer part of your question. People who sell their own houses are called FSBOs (for sale by owner), and they are not pocket listings, as they are not secret listings that the public won't see.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
I would also like to know why no one is questioning the CEO of the "loving kindness" firm Doria Ragland ( https://thestreetjournal.org/2020/09/meghan-markles-mother-doria-ragland-64-takes-over-as-boss-of-elderly-care-homes-firm/ ) .... cash only ....
Snarkyatherbest said…
As a tax payer I wouldn’t want the police to be waking up a woke prince to tell him to put his phone on. Not sure the night signify officers appreciated being messenger lackeys to the prince and his misses. Still think something is all off in this story as well as the fact it was made public.
Martha said…
@jenns...hadn’t heard she had some security people fired in the UK. Any details?
Absolutely! If TMZ takes tips, a boatload should be sent.

I don’t know what to think about the news conveyed about PP’s death. And as someone said, Abby?, who WAS the person who answered the door?
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Snarkyatherbest said...
As a tax payer I wouldn’t want the police to be waking up a woke prince to tell him to put his phone on. Not sure the night signify officers appreciated being messenger lackeys to the prince and his misses. Still think something is all off in this story as well as the fact it was made public.
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Yep. This.

I am all for wellness checks, which the Sheriff's Department conducts.

But we expect answers.
SwampWoman said…
Wow, Lady C didn't pull any punches about Harry in this latest. Merching his status as well as his emotional and mental disturbances, the fact that he is basically an imbecile as well, a lethal combination. Emotionally disturbed, mentally ill, and stupid. She talks about the unpredictability of stupid people. She says he is dumb, dumb, dumb, and nasty. She (Meghan) has managed to turn his vicious streak into something really very disturbing. She tells us to make no mistake where it came from, it came from the Spencers. Then she goes into the viciousness/mental instability in the Spencer family line.

That being said, she agrees that he is being manipulated and is suffering emotional abuse.
AnT said…
@Snarkyatherbest,

My guess is things are a little different in a place like Montecito, and police are probably quietly cruising around anyway to protect the unique, almost sleepy nature of their town. They probably keep an eye out for unknown vehicles for the well-heeled taxpayers and the well-known town fathers. They probably aren’t having too many curfew breaks, teen domestics, or minimart crimes, and have a leaner time apart from private beach or lawn trespassing, sightseers, and roving bears. Their official work would adapt to the locale, and waking a prince for an embassy phone call, or Oprah for a film crew or catering truck blocking a private lane, might be par for the course.
AnT said…
@SwampWoman,

The Spencer line! Interesting. Off to listen to Lady C I will go....
AnT said…
@jessica

Where is Markus, indeed.

Funny how some of the key players disappeared into the mists.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
@Snarkyatherbest,

My guess is things are a little different in a place like Montecito, and police are probably quietly cruising around anyway to protect the unique, almost sleepy nature of their town. They probably keep an eye out for unknown vehicles for the well-heeled taxpayers and the well-known town fathers. They probably aren’t having too many curfew breaks, teen domestics, or minimart crimes, and have a leaner time apart from private beach or lawn trespassing, sightseers, and roving bears. Their official work would adapt to the locale, and waking a prince for an embassy phone call, or Oprah for a film crew or catering truck blocking a private lane, might be par for the course.
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@ AnT

I have to say I am sorry to say you are right.
Starting their own church, with Harry, would solve one tricky problem at stroke and it would be their own doing -

Don't say it too loudly, in case they hear us, but the moment Harry joins another church, even a totally respectable denomination, he's taken himself out of the Succession.
lizzie said…
@WBBM,

That makes sense re: religion. But I thought only Catholics were absolutely prohibited from the line of succession. I know the monarch has to be "in communion" with the CoE and a "whacko" religion maybe wouldn't be, but how would that be decided?
jessica said…
πŸ’‹ Hot Rob Alert 😍

Spotted in the DM walking along the beach in Montecito with his son. We never see Harry walking anywhere with his ‘son.’
jessica said…
TMZ is run by an Ex-Lawyer. Just FYI around the fact they don’t get sued into oblivion.
jessica said…
And...yeah...how *are* they going to capitalize on their sugars, who don’t seem very intelligent...religious donations make a lot of cents, sorry, sense. ;)
Being of `good standing' in the CofE does have specific criteria - as I recall, one has to accept the idea of the Trinity, be a formal member of the Church (by baptism & confirmation) or of a Church in communion with it:

Churches in communion with Church of England
see: https://europe.anglican.org/supplements/churches-in-communion-with-the-church-of-england

That is, Anglican churches in former British territories (generalisation covering ECUSA !) plus certain Nordic Lutheran churches and some amalgamated churches in other countries (eg Church of North India but not Church of South India for example).

Plus a few others.

It also involves attendance at regular public worship.

It doesn't include Roman Catholic or Orthodox Churches, nor the Nonconformist churches. It certainly wouldn't extend to anything that Oprah or RL Hubbard set up. Many of these other churches wouldn't want to be in it anyway!

In addition, one must attend regular public worship (ie as opposed to exclusively private devotions.
@lizzie:

Back in the day (late 17thC) when Catholics were specifically excluded, the concern was that the monarch wasn't cosying up to the French king, their Absolutism and their territorial ambitions - and the power politics involved. I'll spare you the details.

Before that, in the previous century, the then Pope had declared Eliz I a bastard and it was the duty of English Catholics to work towards restoring a Catholic monarchy. Plots galore!
JennS said…
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This is rather interesting:

https://www.eonline.com/uk/news/1041185/princess-diana-s-little-spencer-the-truth-about-prince-harry-s-relationship-with-his-mother-s-side-of-the-family
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lizzie said…
@WBBM,

Thanks for the info. I knew the historical reasons for excluding Catholics and, until recently, for excluding non-Catholics who married Catholics. I didn't know the rest of it. And I'm still not really clear on whether to be in the LoS one has to be a member in "good standing".of the CoE (or affiliated church) and if so, for how long.

For example, on some blogs I've read criticism of W&K for not attending public church services except at Christmas, very occasionally at Easter, and sometimes at Crathie Kirk when at Balmoral. Others say it's nobody's business if they ever they go to church. So I'm not sure what is meant by regular attendance to be in good standing.

I see if there's any question if a church is "in communion" with the CoE the Archbishops of Canterbury and York make the decision. But I doubt even the current AofC could make the case for a church begun by Oprah and/or Meghan. Even Doria's church and supposedly Oprah's considers Jesus simply to be "an enlightened being, one who attained cosmic consciousness." Not sure Welby could call that in communion either. Still, I'm not sure a spiritual "detour" would officially take Harry out of the LoS. One can hope though!
The bare minimum for CofE is taking Communion (Eucharist/Mass) twice a year, of which one occasion must be Easter Day.

Some parts of the church (the Catholic wing) attach great significance to the Eucharist, others (Evangelicals and Charismatics) don't, placing greater emphasis on the experience of the working of the Holy Spirit, as in `speaking in tongues'. Welby did livestream his celebration of Easter Communion from his kitchen in the first lockdown - am not sure what happened this this year.

Royals have access to private chapels and chaplains - HM doesn't take Communion at public services. Just because they are seen only to attend a parish church occasionally doesn't, of itself, mean much.
lizzie said…
@WBBM,

Yes, I knew royals sometimes did the private church thing. But in your earlier comment about being in good standing for the CoE you said "In addition, one must attend regular public worship (ie as opposed to exclusively private devotions)" so I wasn't sure how much those private events officially "counted."

It kind of sounds like though except for Catholicism (or I suppose blatant public disavowal of the CoE), it's almost an "honor system" so far as the LoS goes.
Has anyone had any more thoughts about the DoS as Oedipus Rex?

In the play, he marries his mother, having killed his father - ends up gauging out his eyes?

H has just changed the ordered - married his `mother' - probably contributed to death of his grandfather - now doing his best to `do in' his father - then what?
Miggy said…
'What you have done sir is quite frankly despicable': An open letter to Prince Harry.

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1442921/royal-news-Prince-Harry-oprah-interview-meghan-markle-apple-tv-show-the-me-you-can-t-see
SwampWoman said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
Has anyone had any more thoughts about the DoS as Oedipus Rex?

In the play, he marries his mother, having killed his father - ends up gauging out his eyes?

H has just changed the ordered - married his `mother' - probably contributed to death of his grandfather - now doing his best to `do in' his father - then what?


Then what? Appear on the Oprah and Harry Mental Health Whine-a-thon! (I would like Dr. Phil to give him a good talking to. After Dr. Phil finishes tearing him a new one, invite in English grannies.)
SwampWoman said…
From my screened side porch where I'm taking a break from sharpening the scythe, Harry looks to me to be one the most self-centered, dumb persons on the face of the earth. He does not (or does not want to) understand that ALL of Diana's problems were self-created. He does not see that all of HIS problems are self-created as well. He does not want to see that Meghan's problems are entirely due to her grasping and unpleasant personality.

He has no empathy whatsoever for his grandmother, none for his loving dying grandfather, and seemingly only contempt for his father who has also suffered a great loss, not the least of which is his mentally-ill son. Aunts and uncles? Under the bus. Cousins? Under the bus. Brother and sister-in-law and niece and nephews? Jealous hatred and under the bus.

*Anybody* can speak honeyed phrases. I look at actions, and his actions are very ugly.
Martha said…
Thanks for the details, @JennS. So very typical. Ugh.
@miggy posted:

'What you have done sir is quite frankly despicable': An open letter to Prince Harry.

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1442921/royal-news-Prince-Harry-oprah-interview-meghan-markle-apple-tv-show-the-me-you-can-t-see

A powerful piece of writing - sadly, I can't see h taking notice of it.
SwampWoman said…
*For what it's worth, my problems are all self created. I acknowledge it. I weigh the problem(s) that I have created for myself against the good that I am creating for somebody else and either adjust the balance (am I interfering with their ability to solve their own problems?) or decide that the good for now outweighs the problems I have created for myself, and I will adjust later.

I do not think that Harry is capable of thinking outside of himself.
AnT said…
@JennS said,

That’s what happens when your son is made of vinyl.”

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I think I might have to write a play named that. Eleven actors, three acts.
Jdubya said…
All the speculation on the visit to Mudslide Manor to tell H to call the Embassy. How TMZ found out. Calls that the Police respond to are public information. A lot of agencies have online websites which show what calls are dispatched. Doesn't give the details, only the location/times & type of call.

The agency i used to work for here, i could post the link right now showing the calls that are currently in play. (but i won't).

The agencies also provide logs for the media to peruse regularly. A media agency can then request more information & depending on the type of call, they will get it or not.

I'm sure there are media there that do regular checks on types of calls to celebrities. Maybe even monitor scanners.

The fact that it only just recently came out makes me think of 2 things - either H&M's team recently decided to leak it or someone from the media got curious and did a bit of digging and found it.

Jdubya said…
I've seen several posts, several places, that their place in Montecito is currently for sale. So i did a simple google search with the address.

it is NOT for sale. It all says sold in 2020, not currently on market. I looked at 7 different well known sites.

Yes, it could be PRIVATELY for sale and not online. But i don't understand all the sudden rumors.
AnT said…
The cast of my future play.

Harry.............Andrew Lawrence, the Outcast Comic
Megs.............Meggie Foster, TikTok pandemic star

William...................Chris Hemsworth
Catherine...............Gal Gadot

Charlotte.............. Rihanna
George.................Chris Evans

The Queen.........................BeyoncΓ©
Prince Charles....................Hugh Laurie
Lady Colin Campbell..........River
Lord Geidt..........................Jason Statham

Diana................Rosie Huntington-Whiteley

Archie...............a bag of styrofoam peanuts


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Miggy said…
Came across this article from Friday 28th. (Apologies if it was already posted.)

Harry is certainly starting to annoy our friends across the pond if the comments are anything to go by.

Does Harry now think there's no need for cops? Prince and Oprah push mental health alternative to policing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9628749/Harry-Oprah-alternative-police-mental-health-crisis-response-new-Apple-TV-show.html?ito=video_player_click#comments
Girl with a Hat said…
a lot of people suffer from small genetic abnormalities (SNP single nucleotide polymorphism) that can make them suffer from all kinds of "mental health" issues.

These issues are not "mental health" issues but rather their bodies and brains cannot produce or produce insufficient amounts of neurotransmitters because of over or under methylation, or other problems.

It's been posited that people with ADD or ADHD or even autism suffer from having these SNPs.

The result can have repercussions on a person's mental health because the person will suffer from anxiety, or depression.

So, when that person suffers from depression, they will try to seek a reason for the depression, but it's not an event in their lives that may have caused it. It's just that their body isn't tuned to work as well as most people's.

Supplements and a proper diet can alleviate a lot of these issues, as well as swearing off of alcohol and prescription and illegal drugs.

You have to have a clean diet and clean lifestyle in order to overcome the issues caused by these SNPs.

A genetic test can cost as little as $250 US and then it needs to be interpreted by someone who has the expertise to counsel you on the meaning of the results, another $250-500.

It can make a world of difference to a person.

I'm saying all of this because I believe that Harry has some sort of genetic issue that he inherited from his mother that translates into behavioural problems.
AnT said…
@Jdubya,

(1). The police call info explanation: ah! Of course! Thank you for clearing that up. Your knowledge to the rescue. Mystery solved. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘Where is Hikari with her tray of reward lattes and pastries?

(2). The house for sale rumors — I believe someone posted they saw a listing dated at the end of December? I don’t think they even live there so haven’t looked. I file that away with the Frogmore Cottage rumors.
Teasmade said…
@GWAH: That's very interesting! And I mean this sincerely: I'm sure that throwing up many of her meals didn't help with nutritional absorption, so she lost a lot of dietary help she might have had. She died before it took a toll on her looks.
AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

That’s extremely interesting information. Knowing what you know, would you say that Harry is going to achieve any mental health improvement with all of these televised show treatments if he continues to be using alcohol or whatever “supplements” he enjoys? Or with ongoing use of the “supplements”:he might be given by California in-laws, for example? Do you think he even sees actual trained doctors in the US?
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT

Harry might find some tools to calm down his symptoms, but they would soon re-appear.

Unless he changes his diet and stops with the alcohol and drugs, he will always feel anxiety, depression or insomnia.

One only has to look at pictures of Harry when he's been drinking to see that his body doesn't tolerate it - he doesn't have enough of the enzyme for his liver to process it, and his face turns red from vasodilation. He would also likely suffer from insomnia when drinking, and may turn violent because the body produces excess adrenaline when alcohol is introduced.

A very good source for info on these SNPs is from Dr. Ben Lynch. He has a facebook and a youtube channel and he wrote a book called Dirty Genes that explains the 5 most common SNPs and the issues they cause, but also how to treat them.
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT,

not all doctors are fully aware of these issues yet. Some are, but 99% aren't.
Most doctors think that if you're suffering from anxiety, it's due to some circumstance in your life and would prescribe anti-anxyolitics and then some form of mental health treatment.

A functional doctor would look at what's happening in your life, but also how long you've had the symptoms. If they are long standing, then they would prescribe genetic testing and tell you to modify your diet to minimise any issues that may arise from food, while waiting for the genetic test results.

That is to say, if you're feeling anxiety, your doctor most likely won't think that your body is not built for processing that avocado you had at lunch. (avocado is high in histamine and may cause anxiety, depression, insomnia, anger, etc if you cannot process histamine, which Harry doesn't seem to be able to do because his face goes red when drinking alcohol)

AnT said…
@Girl with a Hat,

Now I am going to be looking at Harry in an entirely new way. Thank you for all of this info — I want to read more about it. We have an old friend going through some issues the last year, and some of your Harry points are making me think of him from what we’ve been told. I can well imagine that many more traditional doctors or rushed-with-paperwork GPs aren’t up on all of this.
Snarkyatherbest said…
SwampWan and WBBM. Interesting take. The behavioral guys on YouTube seem to take us a step forward. They all agreed Harry was saying something specific with anger about one person one authority figure likely his dad. He is gunning for Charles and blaming him for ever turning. If the wife’s is fanning that flame then they really have been cut off.
Girl with a Hat said…
@AnT

My ex is a GP and a pretty conscientious one at that.

He prescribes medications as the drug representatives tell him to. He knows that won't get him into trouble with the College of Physicians and Surgeons.

I used to have a flatmate who was a drug rep. She graduated with a sham degree from one of the worst universities around. She was selling anesthetics and training anesthesiologists about how to use them! She also had met my ex during her career in a professional capacity.

My ex would prescribe anti-depressants to people who came in and complained about having intermittent pain all over their body. Anti-depressants! Anti-depressants and benzodiazepines can exercebate the issues with SNPs because the liver cannot process them and that these drugs suppress the manufacture of some enzymes your body would need to help itself. So not only do they cause damage, they suppress stuff which could help you!

A more proper response to someone who is suffering from intermittent pain all over their body is to look into inflammation issues and see what may be causing it - is it an injury, a condition that the person was born with, nutrition, environment? something as simple as replacing the oil you use to cook with can really change your inflammation levels.

So, when you have health issues, it's best to do some research on your own. Doctors do not have all the answers.
Snarkyatherbest said…
Oops. Sorry. Fat fingers. SwampWoman
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Girl with a Hat said...
a lot of people suffer from small genetic abnormalities (SNP single nucleotide polymorphism) that can make them suffer from all kinds of "mental health" issues.

These issues are not "mental health" issues but rather their bodies and brains cannot produce or produce insufficient amounts of neurotransmitters because of over or under methylation, or other problems.
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Presumably they are capable of keeping their mouths shut.

@ Girl With A Hat, turmeric.

JennS said…
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Girl with a Hat said…
@Lt Uhura,

yes, turmeric can help drive down inflammation in your body.

Look into the talks being given on youtube by functional medicine practioners, like Dr Mark Hyman, for example. You will learn a lot about the new medicine, years before your own doctor starts to practice these same things. Everything he says is backed up by scientific studies.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger Girl with a Hat said...
@Lt Uhura,

yes, turmeric can help drive down inflammation in your body.
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Plus it is natural, :) .... an additional plus, if you like Indian food :)
SwampWoman said…
@Girl With a Hat, husband and daughter both have the methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase gene. All of the female descendents of the mother-in-law suffer debilitating migraines (including oldest granddaughter). Husband was checked for the MTHFR gene after his strokes; he does have it. He takes methylated B vitamins daily. Daughter was tested for it because out of 5 pregnancies, she had preeclampsia with two and one fetal death.

It is concerning how one tiny genetic abnormality can cause a constellation of symptoms.
Hikari said…
Here I am. I have been busy with work...Ramping up for summer reading activities...June and July are like the Christmas season for children’s librarians. The teachers get a little break, and we get them instead. From the looks of traffic in the last week, we may be back to nearly pre-pandemic levels this summer. I’ve also been touring a lot on Heygo. Virtual touring offers everything that is the opposite of Maggot and Mole—Kudos to the person who designed those nicknames And a tray of pastries to you!—I get to travel the world with upbeat, professional, positive and life affirming people who evidence great energy, resourcefulness, and talent in doing what they do. There’s no glum whining that multi millions of dollars isn’t enough to survive...These people are working for tips, and doing it with smiles on their faces, Even though it must be a struggle at times to meet even modest expenses. Our Heygo guides Contribute light to the world.

So unlike our duplicitous, talentless, ugly Montecito Mountebanks. I had to take a little break from expanding so much mental energy on two of the most worthless people to ever walk the planet.

I don’t know about Maggot, but Mole’s lifelong destructive and unpleasant characteristics Could very well have their root in neurological and psychological damage beyond his control. Of course the trauma of losing his mother suddenly and violently at the age of 12 is a factor, but even before that, Mole was a troubled youth, quite demonstrably not screwed tight. Both sides contributed faulty genetics, And then there was Diana’s erratic behaviors during her pregnancies. Food disordered for most of her life, Who knows what kind of nutrition her babies got it from her in the womb. We can thank our lucky stars that William was not miscarried or born with physical or mental impairment due to his mother flinging her self down the stairs at Sandringham in a theatrical display of retaliation after a fight with Charles. The stairs were carpeted and the flinging may have been more like a gentle roll, but still a reckless and selfish stunt For a pregnant woman carrying the heir to the Crown. Diana’s crazy seems to have landed on Mole in force. Having abused alcohol and drugs since he was a young teen, his brain has been permanently rewired and so I think addiction is going to be a lifelong struggle. His family has done their best to try and contain the worst of his excesses, but now that he’s defected, I think they are leaving him to the consequences they always try to protect him from before. Too much freedom will be his death warrant I think...it’s just a matter of time.
SwampWoman said…
Blogger Girl with a Hat said...yes, turmeric can help drive down inflammation in your body

So can coffee! So when I mix the turmeric and cinnamon into my coffee grounds for spiced coffee, win/win! I have abused my joints over the years and have a *lot* of arthritis issues. When I'm eating lots of anti-inflammatory food and beverages, I completely forget that I have problems. Then, when I forget and have foods that are very bad for me (yet tasty!), my usual energetic walk is more like a zombie shuffle.
SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, I'm still concerned about that big ol' skull lump that he has. Looks like an injury to the front of the head, the prefrontal cortex. Injury to that could cause a whole slew of additional problems aside from any genetic problems.
Hikari said…
@Swampie,

I will have to try the cinnamon/turmeric coffee trick. Or maybe just the turmeric. I have tried and failed to embrace pumpkin spice coffee. But I love Indian food! I am trying to manage my weight and chronic pain by experimenting with cutting out sugar, gluten and most dairy. I have to have cream in my coffee, and I eat goat cheese and yogurt. But milk really doesn’t agree with me anymore, causing me to cut back on my beloved lattes. After not having any Starbucks lattes for a year, I discovered that I don’t really tolerate them much anymore. I do better with regular cold brew and a dollop of cream. I’m also trying to get a mostly pescatarian, but living in the Midwest, this lifestyle is very challenging to say the least. I have a big sweet tooth, and I love my carbs. Not such a fan of red meat. I know I feel better when I eat clean, but it’s very hard to sustain working full-time, and living in a place where healthy choices are quite limited. What are your favorite anti-inflammatory foods/drinks? Hope a little OT will be tolerated because we all benefit from eating well. For a variety of reasons I absolutely have to get 30 or 40 pounds off of me.
Girl with a Hat said…
@Hikari,

I cut out gluten and then found that I no longer had issues with intermittent fasting.

Previously, my face was red and my body stressed when I ate supper at 5 p.m. and didn't eat until noon the next day. Now, I feel hungry before noon, but not the effects of major stress to my body as I had before.

Since I started intermittent fasting, I've lost a lot of weight. I need to replace my entire wardrobe, even my shoes.

I also feel much better. I am exercising, but not very hard. I don't have the pains I used to have the next morning.

I also started using a supplement called TUDCA which is supposedly a miracle remedy for a lot of things. It's the synthetic equivalent of bear bile which the Chinese claim cures a lot of things. It gives you a lot of energy and clears a lot of toxins from the body. It's pretty expensive.

Since everyone seems to be talking about it today, the other thing I recommend to everyone is to supplement with magnesium. It calms you but gives you energy at the same time. It helps you sleep and clears brain fog. There are many different forms and some people can tolerate one form more than another, so don't give up if the magnesium you try gives you some loose bowels. (don't use a lot at the beginning)

Girl with a Hat said…
did anyone else catch Lady C's comment about the Spencers being the nastiest and most reviled aristo family in the UK? Along with the Carlyle's I think. She said that Diana's father was a known wife beater and that is why Diana's mother left. Interesting that it's whispered that Harry beat sex workers.

It's that comment that made me think that #6's issues were partly genetic.
Girl with a Hat said…
according to a naturopath on youtube, Peggy Schirmer, these are the most inflammatory foods and ones you should try to avoid or at least limit:

1. dairy
2. eggs
3. gluten
4. soy
5. corn
6. alcohol
7. coffee

I know you won't necessarily agree with her list, but I am just the messenger.
JennS said…
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@GwaH, I caught her comments when I listened yesterday. Yes it was the Carlyles and Spencers. Pretty shocking, and might explain a lot. That stuff cycles-the kids see it or become aware of it and think it's okay/normal, or overcompensate the other way when raising their own kids, etc. It's so unhealthy and toxic, and poisons for generations. There could also be genetic mental problems that get passed on which exacerbates things. Have witnessed both in my own family. My brother saw that it was okay to mistreat women/people, and he inherited the mental issues. My father got both from his parents, etc. They don't change. It's too late for Harry, and I worry about any children growing up in his presence. Between him and MM, what a nightmare environment. Of course she can use this as ammunition during a divorce("Oh, his bad temper, has a history of beating others, he beat me/the kids, etc").
Hikari said, Virtual touring offers everything that is the opposite of Maggot and Mole—Kudos to the person who designed those nicknames.

That was me.😁 I thought the names were most fitting. Lol 😁
Girl with a Hat said…
@Jenn,

the topic of supplements and nutrition just evolved from the point that people who suffer from anxiety sometimes possess small genetic abnormalities that can be treated with supplements and nutrition.
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Hikari said…
Raspberry,

A belated case of Cadbury chocolates to you for Maggot and Mole. It makes the Harkles like something out of a demented children’s fairytale...Which this case is resembling more and more by the day. It’s so fantastical, it’s hard to believe that it’s actually happening in reality.

I accidentally stumbled on the side-by-side “Archie on swing” And “Archie on beach with doting mommy cough cough”.

All I can say is, they are taking the p!ss with us hard-core. Not the same kid. Does Maggot really think No one’s going to notice that her little darling is small with straight black hair in one picture, and in another noticeably bigger by like a year, with curly red hair? This is all gamesmanship. She’s getting money for these pictures and whipping up raft loads of speculation and that’s what she lives for.

Neither of these distinctly different toddlers are Duck Rabbit Arch or Tutu Arch. Those were two different babies. I believe that the baby from the formal christening photo—The one proven by metadata to be taken in May, not July, is the same baby in South Africa. The baby in the black and white “candid” photo where Maggot and Mole are Wearing their christening clothes and staring into each others eyes, completely ignoring the baby—He’s not the baby from the color picture. That baby was a lot beefier and looked to be blond. He is possibly dark rabbit Arch a year earlier. In any case, she mustn’t have access to those babies anymore and had cast two replacements.

Obviously, they can’t answer the door at mudslide mansion if they don’t live there, which I don’t believe they do. I think they have access to that property for promotional appearances, And they may have rented it on a short term basis or given use of it for cachet factor. Honestly, who but a deranged sugar fan would want any property the Harkles have been associated with and probably trashed if they stayed there for any length of time? Maybe a year ago they still had some cachet as new arrivals, but they’ve pissed that away right quick.

I think they are leading separate lives in locations unknown, aided and abetted by Oprah. They make promotional appearances together, staged photo ops with “arch” and what not...But they can’t actually reside at an address that everyone knows, precisely because they can’t afford to be ambushed with Incontrovertible evidence That their entire Montecito life is a scam, including their love and their parenthood.
SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, sometimes I throw in a couple pinches of dried cloves and some ginger, too! Oh, snap, when I add the turmeric, I grind a bit of pepper in there. My lattes have whipping cream in them (grin). Lactose doesn't love me anymore. I didn't realize it until I cut milk out of my diet for awhile. I will say that I am the only one in this household that loves to flavor my coffee (and tea) this way, so you may violently spit it out. If you don't like pumpkin pie spice blend in your coffee, you might want to stick to turmeric.

As for the rest of the diet, lots of greens (turnip greens, mustard greens, spinach), and other colorful fruits and veggies like strawberries, peaches, melons, cantaloupe, blueberries, red cabbage, red onions, cruciferous veggies, sweet potatoes, summer and winter squash, hot peppers, sweet peppers, okra. Walnuts and pecans, mostly in salads. (Not exactly keto.)

Pork for sausage and BBQ. Not much beef. Enough chicken and eggs (I raise them) that I'm surprised that I don't have feathers. Of course, we have lots of fresh shrimp and seafood here, so that is a given. Likewise fresh oranges, grapefruit, and lemons. Some folks have banana and mango trees. I *had* banana and fig trees. Turns out that sheep really like to get out and graze them to death.

Fermented foods such as yogurt, kimchee, kefir.

My HUGE downfall is that I love, love, LOVE Mexican restaurants with refried beans and rice along with tasty meat pieces, Cuban restaurants with black beans, fried plantains, rice, and flavorful pork, an Italian restaurant owned by Arabs, the Arabic sandwich shops, and local BBQ and seafood restaurants. As I said, I know what is good for me and what is poison for me, but damn that poison tastes sooooo good! (Which is why I am having to eat lots of good-for-me foods right now to erase the damage that I've done.)
Maneki Neko said…
Does anyone know what happened to The Cat with the emerald Tiara website? All I get is a message saying There's nothing here. Whatever you were looking for doesn't currently exist at this address etc.
SwampWoman said…
Hikari said:
I think they are leading separate lives in locations unknown, aided and abetted by Oprah. They make promotional appearances together, staged photo ops with “arch” and what not...But they can’t actually reside at an address that everyone knows, precisely because they can’t afford to be ambushed with Incontrovertible evidence That their entire Montecito life is a scam, including their love and their parenthood.


Being crazy would be too exhausting of a life for me!
Maneki Neko said…
This is where I get angry at H: the DM reports on an ex soldier's suicide. 'He is the eleventh veteran from a single infantry battalion to take his own life'. ... 'A 2019 Daily Mail investigation found the suicide rate in 2 Rifles C Company was then more than 200 times higher than the national average for men in the UK'. This is where H could have helped if he is genuinely interested in the subject of mental health but I guess he is only interested when speaking about himself and dispensing his pearls of wisdom, aided and abetted by his 'mentor'.
SwampWoman said…
Maneki Neko said...
This is where I get angry at H: the DM reports on an ex soldier's suicide. 'He is the eleventh veteran from a single infantry battalion to take his own life'. ... 'A 2019 Daily Mail investigation found the suicide rate in 2 Rifles C Company was then more than 200 times higher than the national average for men in the UK'. This is where H could have helped if he is genuinely interested in the subject of mental health but I guess he is only interested when speaking about himself and dispensing his pearls of wisdom, aided and abetted by his 'mentor'.


Yes, he is a money-grubbing worm just like his wife. He doesn't care about anything except himself.
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Ziggy said…
Candace Owens: It’s been 3 days since Prince Harry has offered another exclusive interview regarding how much he and Meghan hate his family.

Can somebody check on them?


https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1399084190180782080

LOL!
Midge said…
Back to William and Kate in Scotland- have any of you noticed that Catherine's dress is the exact shade of blue as the backdrop at the closing ceremony of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland? She certainly pays attention to detail!
https://64.media.tumblr.com/e0d24639b7837a987c43a8cc034117d8/c728c997cabed1c8-bd/s500x750/094be2a125168fce0a3b678ebeec03aa38711914.jpg
Happy Camper said…
Is anyone here willing to put odds on how long it takes before Harry and Meghan, or perhaps just Meghan,
issues a statement in support of Naomi Osaka’s refusal to do any media availability at the French Open, to protect her mental health?

Osaka, like the Sussexes, apparently wants the benefits of being famous without any of the hassles.

Osaka recently issued a statement saying that to protect her mental health, she would not “do any press” during the tournament, which sounds like the perfect bandwagon for the Sussexes to climb onto.

Background: Osaka is ranked second in the world in women’s tennis. She is the hottest young star in professional tennis. She is currently the highest paid female athlete in the world, ahead of Serena Williams, making an estimated $55 million in 2020. She resides in Beverly Hills, California.

Osaka is very interested in social issues and activist causes.

She was born in Japan, but mostly grew up in the United States. She is biracial. Her mother is Japanese and her father is a native of Haiti, but he is a US citizen. She currently represents Japan, but has dual US-Japanese citizenship, but if she wants to continue to represent Japan, she may have to renounce her US citizenship due to Japanese law.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Ziggy: Thanks for the Candace twitter.

He's got to be 13 years old emotionally, and in "early middle age" (Lady CC.)
AnT said…


Candace’s tweet! πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ˜‚
Peppa said…
@Maneki Neko Cat's Tumblr account was suspended a few days ago. Something about not crediting someone's post, but she said she was unsure exactly what happened. She then proceeded with Cat-with-the-emerald-Tiara-2 and she was there as of last evening. I just checked and I think she's gone again! All I see is a blank page with 3 dots, buffering.
Jenn S -
O/T response.

Ah, someone else who loves `The Diary of a Country Housewife'! A beautiful book, pub. by Farmers' Weekly, back in the late 1960s. A wonderful picture of rural life in 18th C Herefordshire, I think I was. Sad that we don't know what happened to the author - perhaps she did die in Childbirth.

Thank you for the reminding me of the book - even the memory of it is soothing. I'm now wondering where my copy is?

PC is a great supporter of mutton as opposed to lamb, but it's expensive bought over the net, though I think the butcher in Bridport, a family business that's been in existence since the early 16thC at least, sells it. Yes, I have got that date right!
The blue of Catherine's dress - it's the colour of the Scottish Saltire flag - with white St Andrew's Cross (the diagonal one.)
Just found Cat on

https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara2.tumblr.com/
AnT said…
@JennS,

Someone on CDAN commented that the police also went around knocking on windows at the Montecito house during their visit.

If true...all that....and no security staff? No alarms going off? Finally someone answers in some fashion? Who knows.

Also, glad to see Australians are enrolling the “baby’s first words” stories, too.
Maneki Neko said…
@Peppa

Thanks for the info on Cat-with-the-emerald-Tiara-2. It's a bit strange.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar @Peppa

Just as I was sending my comment to Peppa re the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara2 I saw your post, Wild Boar. Thanks for the info.
@AnT, boy it sure sounds like there's no one living there if the cops are knocking on windows. Wow. No security people, no security system, no other staff, no motion-triggered outside light or alarm, where are their dogs? And no doorbell? Do rich people not have doorbells?
Maneki Neko said…
@Hikari OT

You said you'd been touring a lot with Heygo. You might like to watch this video of the Thames Clipper, a fast catamaran that provides a river bus service for commuters and tourists alike. The scenery mightn't mean much if you don't know London but they do announce the stops. The real thing is exhilarating when it goes really fast! This video is just under 1 hour long and contains a few brief ads but I think you might find it interesting.
https://youtu.be/6gqU-HL68wE
DesignDoctor said…
@Miggy

Thank you for posting the "open letter" article--excellent and well written commentary.
My favorite quote:

"One last point you might be well advised to take on board, Sir. You and your wife would be nothing and nobody were it not for the fact that you are the grandson of the Queen of England, the son, brother and uncle of future Kings of England."

The author has hit the nail on the head!

I, for one, do not mind the discussion of other topics. They are often interesting, contain good information, and humanize the blog members, IMO. If I am not interested in a post I just scroll by.
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AnT said…
@Constant Gardener33,

I know, odd, right? Again, that was just an extra tidbit from CDAN and unconfirmed of course, and there has been no comment from the Harkles on the incident. But if true, it seems strange for a couple endlessly talking about their security needs.
@AnT, I just read through the CDAN post and in response to that one about knocking on the windows, someone posted that they have a friend that lives in the same neighbourhood and said the Harkles have live security people there. Don't know what to believe anymore.
JennS said…
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@JennS: https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/05/blind-item-5_29.html
I think there's like 155 comments, though, a lot OT.

Try landing here: http://disq.us/p/2hbzpp9
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Henrietta said…
AnT said:

Someone on CDAN commented that the police also went around knocking on windows at the Montecito house during their visit.


I can't find this on the CDAN site. But I found something else when I went looking: someone saying pocket listings are now illegal in California.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/05/blind-item-9_24.html
@Henrietta, try this for the specific CDAN comment thread that I listed a couple comments above: http://disq.us/p/2hbzpp9
It starts with Sunspirit, then darthbaker then hellskitten.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
A shade seems to have been drawn across the LaMarkles.

Here is just one post I have noticed:

Blogger Maneki Neko said...
Does anyone know what happened to The Cat with the emerald Tiara website? All I get is a message saying There's nothing here. Whatever you were looking for doesn't currently exist at this address etc
.

_____

Quite uncharacteristic of our duo.

We shall see.
AnT said…
@ConstantGardener33,

My thought: Having “lIve security guards” doesn’t mean 24/7 live guards, nor does it mean good ones.

I am thinking of the to casual lunkheads who followed Megs carrying her doll in the Canadian park. They were busy chatting, looking at their phones, and taking off their hats for the photos from many paces behind her. She was carrying holy Archie doll, grinning and struggling with two dogs, but her “live security” were occupied, too far back, and could have easily missed a fast-moving baby snatcher or threatening kidnapper. They may only hire security for those occasional Escalade trips to town.

Maybe her “live guards” were betting on horses, at home with their families, or trying to get Megs to let them release Harry from the wine room.
Lt. Nyota Uhura said…
Blogger AnT said...
@ConstantGardener33,

My thought: Having “lIve security guards” doesn’t mean 24/7 live guards, nor does it mean good ones.

I am thinking of the to casual lunkheads who followed Megs carrying her doll in the Canadian park. They were busy chatting, looking at their phones, and taking off their hats for the photos from many paces behind her. She was carrying holy Archie doll, grinning and struggling with two dogs, but her “live security” were occupied, too far back, and could have easily missed a fast-moving baby snatcher or threatening kidnapper. They may only hire security for those occasional Escalade trips to town.

Maybe her “live guards” were betting on horses, at home with their families, or trying to get Megs to let them release Harry from the wine room

_____


BAHAHAHAHA works for me, LOL

🀣
Midge said…
@ Maneki Neko, @Lt. Nyota bUhura
Here is the link to the new Cat With the Emerald Tiara site:
https://the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara2.tumblr.com/?og=1
Miggy said…
Has anyone else seen this from Yankeewally on Twitter?

https://twitter.com/yankeewally2/status/1399063764570460160
JennS said…
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Henrietta said…
Constant Gardener said:

@Henrietta, try this for the specific CDAN comment thread that I listed a couple comments above: http://disq.us/p/2hbzpp9
It starts with Sunspirit, then darthbaker then hellskitten.


Thanks, Constant Gardener, I found it.

I'm not sure I think that rumor is terribly legitimate (i.e., that the police had to go around tapping on windows to rouse someone). It is a big house, but they have two dogs and some security, even if they don't have much. You would think securing the perimeter would be the first priority in protecting them at home, especially if they're having to cut back on security manhours.

AnT said:

My thought: Having “lIve security guards” doesn’t mean 24/7 live guards, nor does it mean good ones.

I am thinking of the two casual lunkheads who followed Megs carrying her doll in the Canadian park. They were busy chatting, looking at their phones, and taking off their hats for the photos from many paces behind her.


I didn't know what to make of those two lunkheads or of MM's grinning ear-to-ear while her security was failing so miserably to protect her. I guess at first I thought she had told them to hang back because of the pap shot. But any policeman on his phone while supposedly protecting a VIP is assuredly going to get fired or disciplined. The first thing you do is establish a perimeter around the VIP so nobody gets to her unless they get past you.

MM must have had enough quality protection from RPOs in the U.K. to know what it was supposed to look like. She would have at least wanted protection for herself, even if she was carrying a doll, which I think she was on this occasion.
O/T

Jenn S:

I found it! I was afraid I'd given it away - misremembered the title tho'. Charming illustrations too. High time I read it again. Published 1964 and probably irreplaceable.

`I have no more tyme toe rite nowe, butt
goe to bed and I doe hope I will nott lye awaike
thinken off they Sussaxes'
Henrietta said…
JennS said:

This might be why the SB sheriff's depart were called - no local cops.


Yes, "unincorporated" usually means no local police dapartment.

“We did go out there and assist with the notification. One officer attended. The officer spoke to the head of security in Montecito and confirmed that the message was going to be conveyed.”

It's weird this detail was included in the official police statement. It's almost like the police read the CDAN item and purposefully contradicted it. But I can see California police departments doing this. They're essentially confirming that the Sussexes have private security, which is probably smart from a security standpoint.

Still weird though.
Peppa said…
@Midge: Thank you! I thought I'd had the correct address but had no luck.
AnT said…
@Henrietta,

Excellent sleuthing work! I am starting to think the Nutties could form an international detective agency.

Okay, bear with me here but.....

“Go out there”. Ok.

“Head of security in Montecito” Ok.

But ......to the supposed Harkle address at the Montecito mansion? Or, “out” to the Montecito Oprah Guest House?

Oprah security?

Markus Anderson in a yoga wear and a big wool scarf and watchman’s cap.....head of security?


.
JennS said…
Wild Boar Battle-maid said...
O/T
Jenn S:
I found it! I was afraid I'd given it away - misremembered the title tho'. Charming illustrations too. High time I read it again. Published 1964 and probably irreplaceable.

`I have no more tyme toe rite nowe, butt
goe to bed and I doe hope I will nott lye awaike
thinken off they Sussaxes'
................

@Wild Boar

Oh I'm glad you found your copy! In case you want to check the site I read it on, here is the link:
http://thepoetsgarret.com/farmers/contents.html

I think they have the complete diary. It's posted on a poetry community site.

Sweete dreams to ye and no thinken o the Sussaxes shall entr yer heade.
πŸπŸ›ŒπŸ»πŸ’€πŸπŸ›ŒπŸ»πŸ’€πŸπŸ›ŒπŸ»
AnT said…
Sorry, @JennS, I meant to include you with Henrietta in my sheriffs/ security comment at 3:40 AM above.

(Have a lot of balls in the air this week and my concentration is off from too little sleep and I am making stupid mistakes) πŸ₯Ί
SwampWoman said…
@Midge, thanks from me, too!
Henrietta said…
Apologies if this has already been posted. No paywall.

"How the Duchess of Cambridge became the monarchy's greatest asset"
...'As a long-standing royal commentator, I have followed the Duchess since she made her catwalk debut at St Andrew’s University,' writes Camilla Tominey
'As a long-standing royal commentator, I have followed the Duchess since she made her catwalk debut at St Andrew’s University,' writes Camilla Tominey, Associate Editor
30 MAY 2021 • 6:00 AM


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/0/duchess-cambridge-became-monarchys-greatest-asset/

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That confirms it was not a welfare check. If it was, then they sheriff would need to make contact with Harry directly.
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Henrietta said…
AnT said:

But ......to the supposed Harkle address at the Montecito mansion? Or, “out” to the Montecito Oprah Guest House?


I'm not a big fan of the various theories that they don't live at their mansion. I think it serves MM's divorce interests too well for them to buy the huge house (with Prince Charles's putting down one-quarter of the price) and her living there to establish her baseline marital lifestyle.

But the one thing I do wonder about is if they've tried to borrow already against their equity in the house--which, again, is probably overwhelmingly Prince Charles's contribution. I vaguely remember a rumor on one of the blind sites describing them as "highly leveraged." And their biggest asset is the house.

And another thing that supports my own thinking: the online accounts from the various Givenchy staff who said that Clare Waight Keller was forced out of Givenchy because of the whole MM wedding dress debacle. One of the allegations was that she arranged for MM to get an incredible kickback from Prince Charles's dress payment of something like half a million pounds (the total price of the dress). That I can really believe.

You guys have probably discussed the Givenchy rumors exhaustively, but I missed it. But the rumors do confirm that (1) the dress wasn't up to Givenchy standards because (2) it was largely designed by MM herself. I mean, it was awful. Definitely the emperor's new clothes. (Apologies to other Nutties who thought it was pretty.)

It kind of looked like MM had tried to copy Princess Angela's wedding dress style, but didn't understand she needed to use the same kind of fabric for the dress to fit and flow the same way. A real designer would never have made that kind of mistake.

If it's true MM got that kind of a kickback from Givenchy--like she's obviously gotten from other places (e.g., Meghan's Mirror, at least)--that would be more than enough reason to let Keller go. She didn't just sell an ugly dress to a prominent customer.
KCM1212 said…
@AnT

Brilliant casting! I particularly like Archie, William and Kate. I can't wait for the first act!

May I suggest a couple of addtions?

Omid Scabies - Gilbert Gotfried

Doria - Angela Davis

The Chickens -Lainey Lui, Messica and Oprah

And if only Peter Cook was still alive to portray Archbishop Welby!

Thanks for the chuckle.
Henrietta said…
JennS said:

But who do they mean by "head of security in Montecito"? ...Or are they referring to Harry's security?


I took that to be the head of Harry's security. A Santa Barbara sheriff isn't going to defer to some "rent-a-cop" organization.

Not Meghan Markle: Great clarification on welfare check!

This is all starting to make more sense!



Jdubya said…
JennS - I did NOT agree with any theory of yours that law enforcement "Leaked" the info about the contact at the house. Read my post again.

It is NORMAL procedure for police to log every call they respond to. It is NORMAL procedure to make logs available to the press here in the US. It is NORMAL procedure for the media to review those logs.

It is very normal here for media to have police scanners in the newsrooms. And normal for a lot of private citizens to have scanners at home.

It is NORMAL for law enforcement agencies to have websites where you can see what is occurring in your area.

Your post made it sound like an officer called TMZ and said, hey guess what?

I have no doubt that the media has it's eyes & ears open to anything concerning the Harkles.
Curiously said…
The day after the TMZ story dropped, this was posted to the Deux Moi instagram stories:

"Regarding the TMZ sorry about Harry & Prince Philip

, it's half false and half true. Meg & Harry didn't know Philip was that sick so they didn't expect he would die soon but when he did they got a call from their last aide in London and since they were asleep it went to the mailbox and they saw it when they woke up. It wasn't a dramatic scene, just a missed call and a message.
Police have been at their house once, but it was because of a minor incident, nothing serious."

Deux Moi does have some good sources for general celebrity gossip. The posts about the Royals are a new thing, so it's yet to be seen how reliable those sources are.

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