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Will the Appeal Turn the Tide?

 Well, well, well.

The news is coming out that she might not be the most reliable of sources for information. (who would have thunk it?)  And that she did, in fact, cooperate with the authors of the Finding Freedom book (really?).  And that recollections may vary (with emails and texts to back things up).

Do you think the appeal will overturn the prior judgement?

If it doesn't, do you think her reputation of accuracy will be damaged long term?  Sometimes wounds may not kill short term but do the damage long term enough to bring them down.

Could this damage her attempts for a trajectory of the new humanitarian shining star?

How do you think it will play out on Netflix?  Or will it if it goes against her?




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CookieShark said…
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Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/D6Z3yz76IN4

New video from The Body Language Guy.
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/D6Z3yz76IN4

New video from The Body Language Guy.

@Hikari said ...
'However I think since Twat is not evolved enough to be self-aware, her ability to wear the agreeable mask is very very short.'

It makes her very rich material for all the body language 'experts'. The mask always slips! Analysis of footage of her as a working royal, specially once they had agreed to flee, shows exactly what you said above.

The latest analysis from The Body Language Guy analyses Harry talking on a Zoom conference. I think this is the first time he showed clear and multiple signs that he did not believe what he was saying, or it at least made him uncomfortable.
Fifi LaRue said…
I traveled with a very skilled narcissist for two weeks. Charming, funny, engaging. Of course I said yes when she wanted to know if I'd go with her to Paris for a week the following year. One day in alone with her, away from the group, and her facade fell away. It was a week of mostly hell, while she continued to charm every stranger she could engage in conversation.

* doesn't have much in the way of being engaging, and charming. * relies mostly on what she perceives to be her killer sex appeal. That's how she got Twit. She did things to him he never experienced before, and made him believe it would never end.
Enbrethiliel said…
I love Dr. Ramani! She has such a great way of explaining things. I've recommended her to friends whom I suspect are in relationships with narcissists (either family members or lovers).
Miggy said…
BBC is accused of 'anti-William and pro-Meghan and Harry' bias in documentary about warring Princes that featured interview with Duchess of Sussex’s lawyer but 'didn't let Palace have their say'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10234305/BBC-accused-anti-William-pro-Meghan-Harry-bias.html
LavenderLady said…
@Hikari,

Funny you mention Dr. Ramani. I was just listening to her this week. I love her work. I also listen to Dr. Seth Meyers who is amazingly good at breaking down the whys of the narc motives and Lisa Romano who has been very helpful to me over the years dealing with a couple of narcs in my family (it's from Lisa I've learned the power of kindness and forgiveness in every area of life).

I've recently been triggered to rewatch Dr. Ramini due to a death in my family and yup here comes the malignant narc who has to make it all about her. Everytime. She has put others in danger just for sport. She called the day before the services. I have her on no contact so I ghosted. And felt guilty for like a minute or two but then remebered what she has done. Ugh. Lisa taught me that we forgive for us, not for them. Powerful stuff.

It was from Dr. Seth Meyers I learned the narc has zero self awareness. Nada. Zilch, etc. This is why they cannot say they are sorry. How can they be sorry when they are convinced they do no wrong? Telltale signs of the covert or overt narc.

Thank you for mentioning Dr. Ramani. :)
snarkyatherbest said…
So is anyone else looking forward to Christmas card season = What will the gruesome twosome do? will we see lilibuck$ foot, hand, back of head? will archie be on a zoom call? will it be in cartoon style with Disney themes so she can lobby for another voice over job. Will all objects in the room have a brand on them for product placement money? Will archie take the pic? Full kudos if a baby doll is dressed in a $ t shirt - now that would be funny!

Maneki Neko said…
@Snarkyatherbest

I think we'll see a Christmas card drawn and painted by Archie with Lilibet's hand print maybe. Perhaps with an uplifting message from TBW ๐Ÿ˜œ
LavenderLady said…
@snarky,
Thanks for re-directing the thread!

Hard to say what that one will come up with.
What's left? She's been through the gamut. Anything she comes up with will be a repeat of the stale toys in her Christmas bag.



snarkyatherbest said…
Oh handprint is good - we can keep the elusive Lilibuck$ hidden for longer!
Miggy said…
A good one from Taz. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

How Low Can She Go?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mObJ792no0
snarkyatherbest said…
I cant wait til the Cambridge's card. And I hope PE has a pic of the christening! We just received our first christmas card so I am totally in the mood now!
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie - just watched the video - "handcuffed to the table" Hmmmm, maybe the mrs keeps him tied down literally!!
Snippy said…
@Sandie @Miggy and no way would her lawyer be giving an interview without the full knowledge and consent of her client.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPVSez0fzTw

Harry's Foundation told Trevor Coult MC who is an advocate of UK veterans to stop trying to get Harry involved in veteran issues. Shocking stuff!
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/I5dode-N_rM

David Charles is a psychic tarot reader. I haven't watched anything of his for ages, but his newest video on the Harkles (he does not do a lot on them) is rather interesting.

I do find his interpretation of the cards rather perplexing most of the time, but a couple of things he said are exactly what I have seen in the few readings I have done for them. It will be interesting to see how accurate his predictions are. (Spoiler alert: they will separate; she will remain in the mansion with her new man living with her; Harry will be dating someone from his past and it will be a very happy relationship; Harry wiil reunite with his family, but without Meghan)
Sandie said…
@Snippy

I am not used to the concept of lawyers being used for PR for clients, so I found the appearance of her lawyer on the programme rather strange.
Enbrethiliel said…
Re: Christmas card

I'm torn between a photo by a prodigiously talented "Archie" and one by Harry (whose photography "skills" they tried, once upon a time, to promote).

The advantage of the first one is that they won't need to worry about casting yet another child actor to play Archie -- and thereby risk having more people notice he's not the same child as all the others who have come before.

But I can see the second as more appealing to *. Like the pregnancy photo in which she obscured everyone's faces but her own, it would make it seem as if she conceived and birthed two "royal" babies all on her own. No help from the blood prince she had to marry even to be counted as a royal. Which is very close to the truth, when we remember that "Archie" and "Lili" are most likely just figments of her imagination.
snarkyatherbest said…
Sandie - the lawyers only jump when collecting billable hours and to get a public reputation also (gloria allred, lin woods, F Lee Bailey etc)
Isn't the case still sub iudice? So why release the programme/wade in with the lawyer now?
Hikari said…
@Lavender Lady

Dr. Ramani it’s a new discovery to me but I certainly will be searching out more of her videos. I am fortunate to never have encountered a Narc In an intimate relationship, but I have certainly met at least a couple in the course of my professional career, and I am on the lookout for the signs. HG Tudor, Who I also follow, thanks to Twat, Places others of his kind on a spectrum. I don’t know for certain if he is actually a narcissist, or if he is a person with some experience in mental health diagnostics who has found a nice little gold mine on the Internet. It has always seemed rather unlikely to me that a true narc would want to unleash all of his secrets On the Internet, but be that as it may, he calls Markle “Mid-Range”. This means that she has no deep understanding of the way her own mind works, and quite actually might believe most of the lies that she promotes. In his estimation, this means that she has a much lesser intelligence then those he classifies as Ultra, Including himself of course. These people are fully aware of what they are doing, and why they are doing it. Someone like Markle on the other hand, Uses people with abandon but she has convinced herself that she is a victim. Her bizarre PR strategy that seems so random it’s random because she literally cannot remember most of the lies she told years and months ago. This type of inferior narc is a very short range thinker, because she simply does not have the attention span or the intellectual capacity for the big picture. If we think of her as a predator on the food chain, she can consume so-called Neurotypical people Out of self interest, but she does not have the capacity to sustain her persona and all of her various stories. A truly top grade narc would not make this mistake. Megan is a danger to other normal people, but she is vulnerable to be exploited by superior narcs. We’ve just seen that with Ellen. Ellen who no doubt thinks of her as a stupid, silly little girl who will do anything for attention. Narcs live for fuel, but the truly skillful will cultivate that fuel carefully. Thus you get major CEOs & heads of state/dictators in the top narc class. Markle is too scattered and to intellectually lazy and shallow to ever compete at this level. So I have some hope that she will be dismantled, and it’s already happening, because she simply cannot resist the most low hanging fruit for attention, and she’s got no discernment. A really top notch Narc Would bided her time for years And made the whole royal family love her, including the public, before unleashing her plan of destruction. Markle is so immature and dumb that she let the masks slip as soon as the ring was on her finger. Before really. Consider the faces she made and behavior during the Inskip wedding when she wasn’t even an active girlfriend at the time. She can’t even do narcissism to a superior level, so she’s going down.
The Cat's Meow said…
Regarding the Christmas card prediction...

I think JH's hand will be holding the hand of "Archie" and "Lilli" with maybe a Christmas tree in the background...
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: Thank you for the recap of what you have been learning. Very interesting.
Magatha Mistie said…

Ah, the Christmas card?
Mary Megdalene front
and centre.
Arche Angel bent over
Lil’s crib.
DonkeH peering from
the stalls.
Megativity!!

LavenderLady said…
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LavenderLady said…
@snarky said,
I cant wait til the Cambridge's card
___

Let's hope William wears the Scarf front and center ha ha.
snarkyatherbest said…
Magatha - Love it! Megativity!!!
LavenderLady said…
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LavenderLady said…
@Hakari,

I agree totally with everything you said upthread. She simply cannot sustain the facade long enough. I came to the conclusion that she tells porkies so easily reaserched and debunked, out of pure audacity. She believes she is so special that she can worm her way out of them without consequence. Only she is finding out she really can't. All her gormless (I love that word) antics has come back to bite her big time.

I believe true repentace is sustainable. Fakery is not.

I have listened to HD Tudor and he triggers me. The voice is creepy. Be glad you have never been in a romantic relationship with a narc. I attracted them because I am an empath and was passive in my younger days. One is a clinical psychologist and he came to me after a divorce. It was traumatizing. I learned from that one many things but this sticks with me today: there is a huge difference from lovebombing someone and validating someone. Validation is a great thing to give and receive and we all need to know when we are doing good things. But when a narc lovebombs, a wise, discerning, mature woman knows the difference. I was naive and vulnerable and my self esteem was in the dust from a divorce situation. I have stayed single and am happy now.

I have gone back and forth on whether Harry is a narc as well or a less than prudent victim. I guess we shall see how he turns out after she hits the skids.
LavenderLady said…
Sorry Hikari. Got your name wrong. Again...:)
DesignDoctor said…
An article I read in Town and Country about Camilla’s love of extravagant diamond jewelry with lots of photos of exquisite jewelry and their provenance.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/jewelry-and-watches/g37858169/camilla-duchess-of-cornwall-diamond-jewelry-photos/?utm_campaign=socialflowFBTCO&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-media&fbclid=IwAR085vGcYv5H_RXf59tT1ePt-Qc3gHWfUlbLLzwZVp4eP1QCHTGPZdBce2s#sidepanel
DesignDoctor said…
Not sure why the link is unusually long. I read it on my phone via FB.
Christmas card? I wonder how soon she'll confuse Christmas with the Feast of the Assumption (August 15th) and will send a card with an image of herself being taken up into Heaven?

Meanwhile, we all hope for a Doom painting, with her being carted off into the Infernal Regions... (My favourite opera is Don Giovanni. Does anyone remember the Peter Sellars' production of c30 years ago where the Damned emerge from the vents in the Harlem street to pull the Don down to his fate...? Was it a TV movie?)
Sorry, right director, wrong production.

I may be thinking of a filmed theatre production, around that time and broadcast on TV. There must be other Finales on line which are just as dramatic - I'll have a look.
The Don goes to H*ll:

Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BBaAz0Wuic at 1.14.58 on

- though I think she might enjoy that!
Magatha Mistie said…

WildBoar

Verdi’s La Traviata,
Guiseppina Strepponi,
rather apt also

madams version
La Travesty,
Penis Straponme ๐Ÿ˜ณ
Magatha Mistie said…

Maneki and Snarky

Handprint, perfect,
alongside
twotters trotters!!

Magatha Mistie said…

Biased Bigoted Coterie

This latest debacle just shows
How deep the Beebs contempt
really goes
Attacking our Queen, monarchy
Sod them and their
Licensing fee
Treacherous and flagrant
Transparently blatant
The epitome of
Auntie Establishment

Magatha Mistie said…

The last one was referring to
the BBC.
Would equally apply to the
Dos-sers, including
Licentious fees.

Alley Oops

With her legs in the air
She cried Cor!
it’s the spare
Must bring in my ally
After many debauched nights
They’d got him
bang to rights
Madam, Markus, Haz’s alley…

Miggy said…
@Magatha,

If I have to die laughing... so be it! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚
Miggy said…
Apologies if this has already been posted.

Meghan Markle ELLEN DEGENERES Interview Parody: Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaQd_V_AlNE

Meghan Markle ELLEN DEGENERES Interview Parody: Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTjkd_kTYM

LavenderLady said…
Chrissy Teigen gets smeared AGAIN by upscale boutique Kitson and its holiday display which dubs her 'CANCELLED' and gives her 'two slots' on their wall of 'hypocrites'

Today on DM. I'm sharing this because this is exactly what would happen to TBW if she didn't have that title. And she knows it.

Ugh ๐Ÿ˜ 
Magatha Mistie said…

LL, without her title
she’d still not be cancelled.
Unknown!!

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LavenderLady said…
@Magatha,
Good point! However, that one would have found a way to be in the spotlight even if it was local vs global.

Ugh. Her cancelling can't come quick enough. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Then we can move on to dragging someone else ๐Ÿ˜‚
Magatha Mistie said…

Miggy

All we can do is
laugh at those two ๐Ÿ˜ต‍๐Ÿ’ซ

In my best Noel Coward
Rrrreputational voice

SisterHood of the
unravelling Pants

A Reputational lawyer
Trying to prove M’s no liar
Desperate, so far off base
A stringent denier
Another sucker, Pants on Fire
She’ll realise,
it’s not quite the case



Magatha Mistie said…

LL, nah, the only person
I drag is madam.
For what she’s done to
the Queen, and country.

God Save the Queen
Magatha Mistie said…

Abbyh

May be due for a new page?
Christmas Cards,
future fusillades.
abbyh said…
Let me work on. Just taking a breather from prepping for Thanksgiving.
Magatha Mistie said…

abbyh, sorry, didn’t mean
to pressurise you.
Thank you X
Maneki Neko said…
@LavenderLady

She simply cannot sustain the facade long enough.
---------
I have no knowledge of narcs but I wonder if she just brazens it out and just forgets what she said before, which is why she seems to contradict herself. Let's hope the ANL appeal will expose her as the barefaced liar she is.

@Magatha

La Travesty ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ! As you said, all we can do is laugh at those two. They're a good source of mirth ๐Ÿ˜.
LavenderLady said…
@Magatha,
Then you are a better person than me. I will totally drag the likes of Chrissy Teigen, Kartrashians, and other narcs who are supposed to "influence" society.
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LavenderLady said…
P.s @Magatha,

Yes you are right. It *is* despicable how she has trashed a very well loved world leader and icon. At 95 years old HM still keeps her decorum and sense of duty. BUT, HM is a Taurus on the Aries cusp so I know she is taking care of business behind the scenes. Of that I have no doubt.
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