Skip to main content

The Book! The Book!

 With people about to receive their copy, it seems a good time to start a new post.

Happy reading.

Comments

DesignDoctor said…
@Henrietta and @Maisie

I received a message today from Book Depository that my book is on the way to them from the warehouse and will be dispatched soon. Progress!
Maisie said…
@ Design Doctor

Good news. I was getting concerned. Received same message this morning. Looking forward to a surgical ‘slice and dice’ of our favourite narc. 😁
Sandie said…
@Henrietta @Maisie @Design Doctor

I am looking forward to your sharing of what stands out for you in the book. I finished reading it yesterday.

It is detailed and is mostly a compilation of what we have already read on social media and in the tabloids etc.

It is useful to have everything pulled together in one document, and to have some things verified that we read somewhere but were not sure if it was true.

However now and then there is a priceless piece of new information (e.g. even though the relationship was on the rocks, she only ended it with Cory, and he only moved out, after the Prince had visited her in Toronto, staying with friends ... I can't remember how the Botswana trip fitted into the timeline, but I am sure there were heaps of messages and phone calls after those two dates in London).

There are errors in the book that jumped out at me, but they are not part of the main narrative. Hopefully he will correct these in a new edition.

Bower said he left a lot out, but intriguingly said that now is not the time to share that information.

She comes across as a real piece of work and must be a nightmare to live with.

There are a few things I am still suspicious about. Here is one:

Did they cross paths in May when he was in Toronto, as she said in the Vanity Fair article, but then asked the information to be changed to blind date in London beginning of July? She was given copy to approve and the magazine was published with the May, Toronto information but she did get the date and place and circumstances changed for the online edition.
Sandie said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11045541/Prince-Harry-Meghan-make-5-000-donation-GoFundMe-page.html

Interesting ... since Trevor also made a donation, I think this is someone she knew when she was with Trevor? Opportunity to one-up Trevor and virtue signal?
xxxxx said…
https://nypost.com/2022/07/25/ghislaine-maxwell-transferred-to-low-security-florida-prison/


Ghislaine Maxwell can enjoy movies, yoga after transfer to Florida prison
By Lee Brown
July 25, 2022 10:05am Updated
Maneki Neko said…
@Raspberry Ruffle

I did read the article on 'how a narcissist views their intimate partners.' I immediately thought of a certain couple. He tells 'why the narcissist, who can be either male or female, is a 'child trapped in an adults body' who has issues with their mother.' Are we to believe *'s narcissism stems from her relationship with Doria?
Rebecca said…
A propos of nothing on a slow news day, Cressida Bonas is pregnant with her first child.
Museumstop said…
The view on the other side, this one's on The Guardian

Meghan a threat to the royals? That’s one way to sell a book of tawdry gossip
Catherine Bennett

The respected biographer, Tom Bower, has been giving some extraordinary interviews about his new study of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. His book, the calmly entitled Revenge, is not merely, we learn, a comprehensively negative assessment of the couple: Bower would like it actively to damage them. “This book may hasten a downward trend at which I wouldn’t be sad at all,” he told an enchanted Piers Morgan, “because they pose a real threat to the royal family.”

The public should not, you gather, be reassured by the Sussexes’ departure, some time back, for California. Nor deceived by their very minor role at a jubilee widely considered a triumph for the royal family. Nor taken in by the couple’s replacement occupation, now they are non-working royals, of supplying bland, homiletic content to US clients. It is not enough that every display of Sussex sanctimony is already made safe by Bower’s tireless allies in the UK media, with an answering volley from royal experts and body language professionals. Harry’s recent address to the UN was, for instance, immediately brought down with blasts of Sarah Vine and, still struggling to get over Meghan’s ghosting, Piers Morgan.

Bower still scents danger from the deceptively dormant Meghan, “a very scheming, very clever woman”.

After watching her with Oprah, he concluded: “This woman is doing something quite terrible to Britain and Harry has fallen in love with her, you know, in a ludicrous way, and has gone along as her accomplice.” If only Harry had fallen in love with the former actress in a sensible way, like, say, Prince Charles did with his now-venerated Camilla Parker Bowles.

So if Bower’s book, no less than the related interviews, seems suffused with a wild malice, perhaps it comes from a good and loyal place. It is to give the Queen a “final happiness” (that “Meghan and Harry seem determined to deny”) that Bower, as well as detailing Meghan’s ex-lovers, her early hustling for acting roles and determined forging of a personal brand, is compelled to supplement his case against her with insults. He volunteers, for example, that when the former Suits star was interviewed by Larry King, “Meghan looked unusually unattractive with greasy hair, rumpled clothes and peaky eyes”. Finding this still harder to accept than Bower’s conviction that reliance on notorious Markle-haters is a persuasive approach, I had a look. Judge for yourself, but to this viewer the contrast between Bower’s description and Markle’s actual (appealing) appearance is something his editors might, for the sake of reader confidence, have checked on. As it is, they must already hope that a response from one quoted detractor, Sam Kashner, published in the Times last week, will be the last to raise doubts about authorial bias. “I found Ms Markle,” Kashner wrote, “to be exceptionally warm and gracious and admired her intelligence and her remarkable courage, as I still do.” Bower retorts: “That just shows the power of Meghan.”
Museumstop said…
The Guardian contd

If the reader sometimes feels more balance might have strengthened his case, the experienced Bower perhaps felt a greater responsibility to awaken a nation yet to comprehend the threat of a controlling woman who is tellingly – a point not previously stressed – not tall. Schemingly, Meghan often wears high heels, but Bower is not fooled. If he’s not the only tall man to betray some pride in having grown himself so successfully, it’s still unusual to see this quality transformed into a royal threat-detector. At Wimbledon with Kate: “The physical comparison was unflattering to Meghan. On her own, Meghan’s radiance won universal applause but beside the taller, authoritative future queen the duchess appeared diminished.” Perhaps this could be deleted in any volume likely to be picked up by the Queen (5’3”), at this delicate point in her reign?

But no logic, in this protracted bitchfest, governs what Bower won’t gleefully cite in the Sussexes’ disfavour, while overlooking similar lapses among his favourites. Harry’s Oprah suit is “ill-fitting”. Thomas Markle looks… like Thomas Markle (the more than sartorial shortcomings of Princess Michael’s “blackamoor” brooch are likewise ignored). The Sussexes’ favourite journalist Omid Scobie, has a face, Bower adds by way of another irrelevant ad hominem, that “changed after working in Japan”. Presumably surgery is being referenced here, as opposed to the climate. “Some would say,” Bower adds, “that as the royal editor for Harper’s Bazaar, the Anglo-Iranian is a propagandist.”

Whether intended as an elegant malice-diffuser or handy gossip-vehicle the some said/would say locutions perform heroically throughout the book, as in one passage about a charity executive: “Some would even say he was besotted by her.”

Some would say, incidentally, that it’s unfortunate in a book that twits Harry for using a wrong word (“recipe” for formula) that Omid Scobie appears on one page as “Omar Scobie”.

To turn to the “explosive” new content promised by Bower’s publishers, the most prized revelations appear to be: Meghan was mean on a fashion shoot; the Queen was glad Meghan didn’t attend the funeral; the Vogue staff didn’t like her either; Meghan, with an outsider’s disregard for British niceties, vexed some of her betters with complaints about their hateful language.

Definitely new is Bower’s diagnosis, without any obvious evidence, of Meghan’s “terrible envy”. With his legal hat on, he suggests that an upheld judgment against a Mail newspaper’s publication of her private letter happened because, “as a class, Britain’s judges were unsympathetic to the Mail newspaper group”.

Returning to the facts, the author concludes that the couple’s messy departure for the US brought the Queen, Charles and William together. “They were forging a united front against the Sussexes.”

Some would say – to borrow again from Bower – that this observable royal resilience makes a further nonsense of his claims about vengeful, Montecito-based “agents of destruction”. As for his book’s contention that the whiny – though threatening – couple never had a thing to complain about: if they didn’t then, they do now.

Catherine Bennett is an Observer columnist
Sandie said…
Some of the comments for the DM article about the 'break-ins' at Mudslide Manor are hilarious, like this one:

'Police have already brought in one suspect. A 96 year old English woman answering to the name of Elizabeth. Apparently she was carrying a Rambo style knife at the time.'
Karla said…
Coincidence?

PRINCE Harry’s bombshell memoir is written and a finished manuscript signed off by lawyers — The Sun can reveal.

His publishers, Penguin Random House, are now trying to get it out for the Thanksgiving and Christmas market in the US.
...
"The British Are Coming to Boston—Prince William, That Is
He'll be here to award the 2022 Earthshot Prize, he just announced.

The much-talked-about heir to the British throne announced in a short video Wednesday that he’s planning to hold the glamorous and sustainability-focused award ceremony in Boston this December.

He didn’t announce an exact date, or a location.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2022/07/20/prince-william-boston/
Sandie said…
@Maneki Neko
The narcissist who made the comments in the article is a male, so he frames all his work not only from a male perspective but also from his own personal experience (he had mommy issues). Nonetheless, his view is interesting in that it comes from a narcissist who does not pretend to be anything else.

But, in terms of nurture, some key elements for her are an absent mother (stoned and then physically not there), an over-indulgent father, and the influence of the star aspect of Hollywood.
@Maneki Neko,

Yes, I picked up on the narcissist’s mother playing a part in their narcissism. I don’t think I’ve heard enough of Tom’s book yet to agree with that assessment, but Tom does mention Maggot’s relationship with both her parents growing up. He said during their divorce she learnt to manipulate both parents and control her emotions. Her father realised (whilst in her early teens) that Maggot was controlling outside the home (school) and him and sulked when she didn’t get her way or went her way. Personally, I think her father is the making of Maggot character and Doria played a more minor role. 🥴

Maybe we need he hear or know about Doria, or maybe there are anomalies within the spectrum of a NPD? 🥴
Este said…
Slightly off topic here but, Ben Affleck is looking really bad these days and everyone but The Claw's Mouthpiece from Toronto is talking about it. I stopped giving The Mouthpiece my clicks when the Oprah BM dropped its massive log but I just had to give it a day's moratorium to check in on the Bennifer puff pieces and sure enough, it's all sunshine and rainbows and somehow Ben's magically worked through is issues with booze and gambling and hookers. Meanwhile, they marry in Sin City where Ben can reminisce if not indulge 2 of his 3 favorite addictions; presumably they didn't hire hookers for the evening but who knows? And then there's Ben looking miserable and asleep in broad daylight on his honeymoon (drunk by noon?) but hey even The Mouthpiece naps in broad daylight too so maybe they have a daytime drinking problem too? What does it say about JLo's self-esteem that she's so desperate to be married and reclaim the magic from 30 years ago that she's willing to do the quicky marriage in the absolute worst city for an addict like Ben to be in? But hey, no alarms bells here, nothing to see.

See parallels between the coverage here by The Mouthpiece between Bennifer and The Megaliars? Celebs like Timberlake, Depp and even Marky Mark will never ever be forgiven for their issues from the past, no matter how many decades ago that was, but Ben and Halfwit get a magic free ride pass because they aligned themselves with a POC celeb and they will retain the magic get out of celebrity cancellation jail for as long as they stay with their spouses. What is the point of having principles if you don't consistently apply them?
Opus said…
So that is that. Nothing new. Actually the part of this thread which resonated most with me is WBBM's comments about her narcissist, the woman who wrecked her wedding fifty years ago.

My theory is that all the women here and it is almost entirely women hate hate hate Markle because they feel that they should have been the wife of a Duke of York. My further theory is that Markle is so awful because no matter how long she lives or whom she marries or how famous she becomes she will never never never be white; Obama in my view suffers from the same anti-white hatred.

I do not believe in the existence of Archie or Lilibet. My unanswered question is did the Queen bottle it or has the policy of the Palace been the best that could be done in the circumstances.
snarkyatherbest said…
so no harkles response yet. she s plotting i’m sure. she’s used the miscarriage card at least once (perhaps twice around the wedding). she’s used the suicide card but it appears Bower asked enough questions and she’s no longer by er under the BRF thumb. no he person and the hubby has a hot line to Butter Up. she’s gonna make up another doozies about the brf perhaps william or charles. the camilla ginger afro comment didn’t land. so what’s it gonna be? she has to be careful hubby number 4 may not like if she is stoking the flames more. i’m sure a harry is violent card will be played curious what she is gonna try to pull.
Karla said…
I always thought that (if they have personality disorder) Harry has Vulnerable NPD Disorder and MM has Histrionic personality disorder like Amber Head.
....
These personality disorders are commonly described as dramatic, excitable, erratic, or volatile. Specifically, people with histrionic personality disorder are typically characterized as flirtatious, seductive, charming, manipulative, impulsive.
...

They may be vibrant, enchanting, overly seductive, or inappropriately sexual with most of the people they meet, even when they are not sexually attracted to them.[6] People presenting with histrionic personality disorder may demonstrate rapidly shifting and shallow emotions that others may perceive as insincere. Physical appearance may be used to draw attention to oneself by wearing bright-colored clothing or revealing garments.[6] Those with histrionic personality disorder may speak in a vague style that lacks in detail.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK542325/
SwampWoman said…
Karla said:
PRINCE Harry’s bombshell memoir is written and a finished manuscript signed off by lawyers — The Sun can reveal.

His publishers, Penguin Random House, are now trying to get it out for the Thanksgiving and Christmas market in the US.
...


That should be when the new inflated prices for everything really ramp up. I don't foresee that there will be much demand for the book in the US.
The Markle Smirk - harking back a bit:

It seems like years ago now but didn't we once have discussion about detecting `Duper's Delight', that peculiar sort of smile produced by a duping narcissist who is rejoicing in having pulled off another deceit against their victim? The UN smirk is just the latest in a long catalogue of such manifestations, hot on the heels of the sashaying to her seat in St Paul's.
KnitWit said…
The highlight of the HarryMarkle article for me is the worst picture ever of Harry at the end of the article.

I don't like I looked 20 years ago either, but I hope I am aging better than the Hapless one. He resembles Gollum from the Lord of the Ring movies. My precioussss...
KnitWit said…
On Bennifer II, who wants to get married in Vegas now that the Elvis estate has cracked down on Elvis impersonators. A quickie Vegas wedding NOT officiated by an Elvis impersonator lacks panache.

In these woke times, one may have to settle for a cross dressed Marilyn, Mae West or Cher. To be truly woke, one has to wait for Nevada to change the pronouns on the wedding certificate form.
Maneki Neko said…
@Museumstop

Thank you for the Guardian article. Nauseating is the word that comes to mind. The article is very biased, I find this is the Guardian and C Bennett is an Observer columnist, so hardly surprising.
Karla said…
SwampWoman
"That should be when the new inflated prices for everything really ramp up. I don't foresee that there will be much demand for the book in the US'.👏👏
I agree with you.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Museumstop: Thanks for The Guardian reprint by Catherine Bennett. The Guardian must be for intellectuals because her writing is boring, over-worded, and self-important with her opinions. It is unreadable for someone like me, an average person of good intelligence, but certainly not an intellectual. True intellectuals will read the first couple of sentences, and pass on it. Intellectuals don't bother with celebrity gossip. And a correction: the Megaliars are not Celebrities, but rather tawdry public embarrassments.
KnitWit said…
@Opus, this woman doesn't hate anybody, especially not someone she never met.

I am fascinated by the narcissistic drama. Like many people on this list, I have encountered abusive narcissists. At the time, I was bewildered and hurt. One I learned that the abuser had NPD and her actions were true to the behavior patterns of those with that disorder, my experiences finally made sense. Understanding the complex behavioral dynamic helped me heal from painful life experiences.

Seeing a prominent couple enact a narcissistic relationship in the headlines is fascinating yet troubling. That this couple blathers constantly about the mental health of others defies belief! Any company using H&M as spokespeople for mental health loses all credibility. Harry appears to be on a downward spiral yet he us advocating mental wellness.

In an ideal world, H&M would have individual and couples therapy. Amy children would have responsible guardians and support of a loving extended family.
OKay said…
@Opus Speaking only for myself, I "hate hate hate" Harry's wife because I saw her coming from a mile away, and I despise seeing liars and cheats being rewarded. And the reason she's so awful is simply that...she's awful.
@OKay,

My sentiments exactly! 😐
Maneki Neko said…
In her latest video, Lady C explains, in answer to a question, why Tom Bower's book is not available in America. She says big publishers are terrified of the wokists and political activists on university campuses, terrified of publishing a book that's critical of a person of colour.
I don't think I've seen this mentioned here, apologies if it has been.

https://youtu.be/0rgmpG9qe2o 44'39"
SwampWoman said…
Opus said...
So that is that. Nothing new. Actually the part of this thread which resonated most with me is WBBM's comments about her narcissist, the woman who wrecked her wedding fifty years ago.

My theory is that all the women here and it is almost entirely women hate hate hate Markle because they feel that they should have been the wife of a Duke of York. My further theory is that Markle is so awful because no matter how long she lives or whom she marries or how famous she becomes she will never never never be white; Obama in my view suffers from the same anti-white hatred.


ROFL. I can't speak for everybody here, but I have never had a desire to reside in a fishbowl so that everybody can point and stare. I wouldn't trade my husband for any royalty anywhere in the world. Our life is what we have built, and I like it that way.

I look at *her* and hate the hypocrisy of a woman that purports to be a feminist but ruthlessly uses men to achieve her goals while trampling the women that work to make her successful beneath her feet. She leaves behind her a trail of broken friendships, broken relationships, broken families and broken promises.

I'm not envious. At the end of the day, I have friends and family that I love. She has *nothing* that isn't a gift from a soon-to-be ghosted person. She set out on this pathway years ago and, short of a near death experience, I do not see her being able to change.
Mel said…
I don't hate Mm. Despise, yes.

As far as H? Ladies....can anyone see letting him touch you?? Ewwwww.
The man looks like he doesn't shower regularly, in addition to being a misogynistic boor. That scruffy neck. Yuck.
Karla said…
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were not invited to Balmoral for Queen’s retreat

"There’ll be no wafts of Scottish heather and bracing hikes for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as they are not on the Balmoral summer guest list, Page Six is told.

Despite reports the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were asked to join Queen Elizabeth on her annual summer break in the highlands, we’re told there was no such invite.
claimed that staff at the 96-year-old monarch’s Scottish estate had been told to expect a full list of royals, including “Harry, Meghan and their children Archie and Lilibet.”

However, multiple sources confirmed to Page Six that the Sussexes will not be going to visit Harry’s grandmother.

The couple will stay in the US ahead of the publication of Harry’s much-anticipated memoir this fall"

https://pagesix.com/2022/07/25/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-were-not-invited-to-balmoral/
....
And now: which mouse gnawed the clothes of the king of Rome?😂
abbyh said…
Interesting comments about the book.

I did see it on Amazon and then it disappeared.

Just for grins, I looked at Skippy (thinking about some of past bloggers like her and toronto paper1 who would get some interesting commentary but seem to have drifted out of who we tend to refer to).

https://skippyv20.tumblr.com/image/690724377860489216

"It's always something, isn't it?"
Hikari said…
@Opus dear

Your worthwhile insights are all too often marred by a clinker statement like “All you women here hate Markle because you all think you should marry the Duke of York. (Sic)”

Surely you don’t mean that every woman here wants to marry … Andrew?? Please tell me you jest. I believe mummy has stripped that title off in any case… There is no more Duke of York to my understanding until Louis is ready to take up that title. If uncle Andrew is still living when it comes time for Louis to get married and get his Dukedom, that’s gonna be awkward but no less than Andrew deserves. Or was it Harry you meant as the matrimonial prize?

I will leave the British Nutties To take issue with you over the misogynistic tone of that statement; I recuse myself because as an American I could never entertain such a scenario… Marriage to any British Royal. I was born on the wrong side of the Atlantic, and even though that family lives incredibly well, the price is too high. I admire your queen, but I Wouldn’t be able to integrate into that system of deference and live with my conscience. If Markle had been a person a good character, she would have pursued another rich man and left Harry alone. He would not be in this pickle now if he had chosen a woman who could be loyal and respectful to his grandmother, the family, and Britain, either a British subject or someone from the Commonwealth. I wouldn’t put it past Markle to have posed as a Canadian until she had her hooks into Harry.

Karla said…
I don't like MM because I'm the daughter of a narcissistic mother. Today, I am part of . called group; children of narcissistic mothers.
And I know the damage they can do to their own children and husband. My father became an alcoholic. He was constantly humiliated by her until he died. And my brothers and sisters were victims of that. Of the four, only I am alive today. One developed schizophrenia. The other Borderline Syndrome and my older sister died of cancer at the age of forty.
...
Note: Although, I have confessed this here. Just talk about it with my group.
Karla said…
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were not invited to Balmoral for Queen’s retreat

"There’ll be no wafts of Scottish heather and bracing hikes for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as they are not on the Balmoral summer guest list, Page Six is told.

Despite reports the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were asked to join Queen Elizabeth on her annual summer break in the highlands, we’re told there was no such invite.
claimed that staff at the 96-year-old monarch’s Scottish estate had been told to expect a full list of royals, including “Harry, Meghan and their children Archie and Lilibet.”

However, multiple sources confirmed to Page Six that the Sussexes will not be going to visit Harry’s grandmother.

The couple will stay in the US ahead of the publication of Harry’s much-anticipated memoir this fall"

https://pagesix.com/2022/07/25/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-were-not-invited-to-balmoral/
....
And now: which mouse gnawed the clothes of the king of Rome?
Hikari said…
P.S. @Opus

“Hate” is too personal an emotion for what I feel about M. It’s not really useful to couch it in those terms. She has not personally injured me, though if the United States taxpayers wind up being on the hook for security for the self important couple of do-nothing twats, I will be incensed.

When I consider M, I feel a complex mixture of things: gob smacked incredulity that such a walking disaster posing as a human being has managed to take her schemes so far. She is not, according to the assessment of one of her own kind, even highly skilled at narcissism, because if she were more self-aware, It might’ve been 10 years or more before we realized what an awful being she is. I’m using the term being because to me she barely qualifies as a person. She does not possess qualities that normally we associate with personhood… The capacity for empathy and the full range of emotions, imagination, all those bits and pieces that go into making up that which we call the human personality. These are lacking in her. She is basically an instinctual rage machine. She is a shark, an Apex predator who only knows constant hunger and cruising for prey. That’s it. Do I hate sharks? No, I do not hate any animal which operates according to the only nature it was given. I have a healthy fear of sharks, mixed with fascination and a healthy bit of revulsion too. To be on the safe side, I do not plan to put myself into their environment, where they belong and I do not. So no I don’t hate Harry’s wife, but in the words of the journalist in Morocco— I find her repugnant, repellent, frightening in her monomania and sheer lack of humanity… And I’d certainly avoid any contact with her. But I also find her childish, boring, self important for no reason, shallow and silly. It’s almost enough to make me feel sorry for her, because she is so profoundly damaged that there’s really nothing in there that constitutes a worthwhile human being, and after having destroyed two families she has dragged H down to her level in the gutter and what ever better qualities might have once existed in him… Those are dead.

What concerns me most of all is how even now This Soulless succubus has her defenders— Not just her squad of flying monkey Internet trolls but educated people, high profile people, professional journalists… Politicians. What did they hope to gain by defending and praising the nonexistent attributes of such a malignant usurious nobody? Where have they been these last four years, under a rock? Do they not realize if they are a person of some repute that they are being used? M Has got nothing to offer an exchange in these transactional relationships. Once upon a time she could dangle invitations to a royal wedding and other forms of royal access to the thirsty who flocked to help her, but now that they’ve been utterly discredited… Why does support still continue? I just don’t understand it. And it is in my nature to not do well with not understanding things. It frustrates me, so you can add that to the list of emotions M inspires. The only things she is capable of inspiring and me are negative ones.

Decorah and prevents me from going into detail about what I think she deserves for this merry dance she has let us on these last years. She is not capable of remorse nor change, so neither will be forthcoming. But I suppose she will slide out of the worst consequences for her behavior because she seems to be good at that. Like a certain Bodily waste product which we deposit in the toilet on a daily basis if we are regular, Madam will float Along, just effluvium on the stream of life. But that substance is what I think she is, through and through.
Sandie said…
@Hikari
I second your comment, especially because it is so eloquent!

If the duo were just 'one of us' living down the road, I would avoid bumping into them and no doubt have a gossip now and then with the neighbour. But generally I would have no interest in them and their lives.

Unfortunately they seek global power through being influencers using any platform they can climb onto. More unfortunately, they get attention. They have the potential to do great damage in the world.

Luckily for me, for now, I am not British so it is not my taxes that were used to lavish tens of millions on that grifter in a short period of time. In my country we call it corruption. (There are two Indian brothers sitting in jail in Dubai awaiting deportation to stand trial in my country for grand corruption. It has taken more than 10 years to arrest them. Grand blatant corruption is particularly annoying when it involves foreigners swooping in to grab as much as they can and corrupt as many as they can, and then fleeing the country.)
Opus - oh please!

Andrew may have seemed quite tasty in his bachelor days but I certainly wouldn't have wanted him as a toy-boy; Charles would have been too young for me as well.

I regard being in the Royal Family as a poisoned chalice and I have immense respect for those who rise to the challenge - but thank Heaven it's nothing that will ever happen to me. We're a Constitutional Monarchy - it's not perfect but it's good enough. Nevertheless, I reckon anybody who actively wants/burns to be the monarch is the last person who should be king or queen - ditto for a president.

Should Ms Markle actually run for president, be afraid America, very afraid, as she'll be backed by those who wish America no good.

I detest narcissistic behaviour - had I known about it years ago, my life would have been much happier but I'm here now because I decided to use my experience for good. Queen's University, Belfast, a few years ago published some research of how narcissists get into well-remunerated positions of influence and power but remain at heart, `truly horrible people' and, returning to MM, nothing would give me greater joy than if she should just go away and shut up or be else incarcerated incommunicado for the rest of her natural life.
Sandie said…
@Karla
Thanks for the update on Balmoral. I can't see the Queen being petty enough to not invite them, but I am not surprised that they did not accept. Perhaps they told her in May that they would not be spending any of the summer at Balmoral so there was no invite because they had said they were 'much too busy'.

Thanks for bringing your personal experience here. I do worry about the Sussex children. From what I have read in the Bower book and what you have posted about Histrionic Personality Disorder, I think she is a nightmare at home. I am always amazed that high profile people can hide the more severe manifestations of a disorder, but just because I do not see it does not mean it does not exist! That fixed fake smile of hers is almost a mask. He can't hide his feelings so well.
Karla said…
sandie ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for the words. I'm going to leave, the fact that I remember my mother and the cruel, psychological and emotional abuse we go through day after day is still very painful for me.

Kisses to everyone.
@Karla,

May you find freedom, healing and joy - keep at it, it can take a very long time but your group sounds like a good place to be. You are fortunate to have such an opportunity.
Sandie said…
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghans-strict-rules-palace-filming-27544762

I doubt this story is true. I think she started throwing her weight around and claimed the changes demanded were 'from the Palace'. She was a girlfriend at that stage.

If the hapless one got Kensington Palace staff involved then it was a misuse of public funds (i.e. corruption).
Mel said…
Oh, Karla.....


I don't know the right thing to say.
SwampWoman said…
Karla said...
I don't like MM because I'm the daughter of a narcissistic mother. Today, I am part of . called group; children of narcissistic mothers.
And I know the damage they can do to their own children and husband. My father became an alcoholic. He was constantly humiliated by her until he died. And my brothers and sisters were victims of that. Of the four, only I am alive today. One developed schizophrenia. The other Borderline Syndrome and my older sister died of cancer at the age of forty.
...
Note: Although, I have confessed this here. Just talk about it with my group.



Indeed. I do know a family of a narc mother. The father is a meek man afraid to say anything. Of the children, two have committed suicide, one is in hiding from the mother (who, being unencumbered by ethics, is a multimillionaire), and one of the children is a copy of the mother. The only one of the children that holds a responsible job is subject to extreme mood changes and rages.

I am so sorry. You are as much of a survivor as somebody imprisoned by a terrorist for 18 years.
lizzie said…
As I recall Andrew was pretty dashing in his youth, @Opus, but I think it's highly unlikely all of us or even many of us ever wanted to marry him. And even if we had, what would that have to do with Meghan?

@Hikari, I seriously doubt TQ has stripped Andrew of his dukedom. In fact, hasn't it been pretty much agreed Parliament has to do that if it's going to be done? If not, wonder why Harry is still a Duke? So far as being loyal to the monarchy and the role it plays, Andrew beats out Harry by alot. So far as I can recall, Andrew hasn't called members of the RF racists, he hasn't suggested they are trapped by their royal positions, he hasn't equated the Commonwealth with the British Empire, he hasn't whined about his personal misery on camera in one of the poorest nations in the world, he hasn't taken legal action against the UK government....
Teasmade said…
Book is available on US Amazon.

In stock, free delivery August 11 - 26. Kindle edition $6 (can that be right???) Free with Kindle unlimited.

ISBN: 9781788705035

Sorry if this is repeated news; I've been skipping some posts.
OCGal said…
@Karla, oh! Dear Karla, I am pulling for you in every way.

I send you all my love and good wishes.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Maneki: IMO Lady C has got it wrong. Hardly anyone knows who the Dastardly Duo are. Young people in colleges care about Tik Tokers, social media, their friends, et al. They do not care about the Sukkits. The Sukkits do not make the cover of magazines because no one cares about them. If their visages sold magazines, we'd see them everywhere. Young working professionals and others do not care about the Sukkits, and know little of them. They are busy with their careers and families. They only reason we see/read/hear about them is because of the Sukkit's PR company constantly churning out junk for tabloids, FB, etc. or wherever they post.

TB revealed that * spent $7500/month on her PR company while on her television program. A nobody, C- list actress doling out that kind of money on a monthly basis was surprising. It must be 10 times that now.

The Sukkits really don't get attention. What they get is the result of their monthly retainer to their PR company, which puts out a continual stream of lies, drivel, fake news, aspirational, wishful thinking, etc. Whatever they get, they're buying, i.e., the NAACP award. That was bought and paid for.
SwampWoman said…
Fifi LaRue said...
@Maneki: IMO Lady C has got it wrong. Hardly anyone knows who the Dastardly Duo are. Young people in colleges care about Tik Tokers, social media, their friends, et al. They do not care about the Sukkits. The Sukkits do not make the cover of magazines because no one cares about them. If their visages sold magazines, we'd see them everywhere. Young working professionals and others do not care about the Sukkits, and know little of them. They are busy with their careers and families. They only reason we see/read/hear about them is because of the Sukkit's PR company constantly churning out junk for tabloids, FB, etc. or wherever they post.


Lady C has probably got it wrong about how 'woke' people are, too.
Maneki Neko said…
@Karla

Your experience with sounds horrific. It must have taken you much courage to share it with your group and also us. Take care X

@Hikari

I agree with you completely about the 'Soulless succubus'. I don't hate her either, I don't hate anyone, it's a very strong emotion. Indifference is better than hate. You - and all of us, I'd say - are realistic enough to recognise that life in the BRF wouldn't not for us because we have an understanding of what it entails. It must be a golden cage but where we see a cage, * just saw the gold.
Sandie said…
This is rather odd but I do hope it is true!

SaintMeghanMarkle
Posted by u/HarrysImplants
9 hours ago
Revenge by Tom Bower
Revenge : Meghan and Harry - Extra Chapters Coming!
According to Neil Sean, the paperback edition of the book of the moment will contain "extra chapters and more revelations". Maybe that's why the book still hasn't been released in the US and Australia - perhaps we're getting the paperback only? Anyway....link to Neil's comments here (around the 3.45 min mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuNE7aIRApo
Hate is one of the most overused words now, it’s almost lost it’s true meaning to too many. You can take a strong and/or impassioned dislike to someone or something, but hate should be reserved for truly evil monstrous people in the world.

@Hikari and Maneki Neko,

Agree too, very few people would want a life in a gilded cage within in a fish bowl. Any form of public life appeals like a hole in the head to me.

The unkindness and vindictiveness of Maggot and Mole’s behaviour is nothing we should be shy at calling out.

Cultural differences , background or ethnicity differences aren’t reasons that should serve as excuses to be silenced, particularly given the gravity and implications of Maggot’s and Mole’s despicable shenanigans. 😔
I’m so many comments behind…😟I’m still playing catch-up

@Hikari, you said it best regarding Maggot! I’m going back for another read. 🤗

@Karla, I have no words for what your life must have been like. Wishing you the very best. ❤️
NeutralObserver said…
@Maneki Neko, Thank you for the photographer's name. I didn't want to Google the wedding to give the 6s more clicks. I Googled the photographer, & his Wikipedia page says he's related to some Polish princely family going back several hundred years, naturally, Lady C would know him. LOL.

@Hikari, You are a kind person. Sometimes it's pointless to explain things. I might have been much less patient than you.

Re: Bower's book in the USA. I don't know enough about publishing to know why it hasn't shown up in pre-order on the big US book websites like Amazon & Barnes & Noble. I noticed that his publisher, Blink, seems to be an imprint of Bonnier Books UK, which seems to be a Swedish owned company. I don't know anything about international publishing rights. Perhaps Blink doesn't have enough clout outside of Europe to get Bower's book promoted & distributed to great fanfare in the USA. The big monster cos., like Harper Collins & Random House seem to be able to move heaven & earth when they want to promote a book. The book is selling like hotcakes in the UK, you'd think $$$ would motivate book sellers to make it available.
Fifi LaRue said…
I don't hate *, rather it's a case of horrified fascination. It's a massive train wreck, and * is driving the train through everything, and destroying everything in their path. She's not winning at anything. It seems to be a constant chase to get to the next thing. The massive amounts of PR released after the Bower book is head-spinning. * is stressed beyond all words about the negativity becoming public knowledge.

Someone compared * to the Kardashians. That is most unfair to the Kardashians. The Klan has elevated their do-nothing lives to an art form of sorts. As far as I know, they don't trash other people in public, especially family members. They get invited places, Hello Met Ball! They are not mean people. They have relationships, and children, Mrs. Sukkit, however, is mean and vicious, and plenty of people have been close to her to find out the hard way. Her marriage is massively unhappy, and the "children" are non-existent.

The Sukkits are free entertainment. They are like the stock car races that go around and around until the last car crashes. We are waiting for their last car to crash.
Hikari said…
Neutral,

I'm not so kind . . a word forever tainted by Meh's overuse of it. In reference to our resident gentleman of the bons mots, my 'dear' was ironic. But I don't want to be called out as another hysterical female by flying off the handle, so . . As I said, I'm American so that arrow is blunt on me. I got over my princess fantasies, if ever I had any when I was 16 and watched the Chas and Di wedding. Even at that age, my thought throughout was 'This is doomed.' Charles looked like he was walking to his execution and the bride completely fluffed his given names. Not a good sign. Perhaps the Archbishop should have paused and called for a do-over since no such person as Philip Charles Arthur George existed.

Sandie said…
Another contradiction (and more libel?):

In her court case against DM, she claimed that Charles (well, she implied when she spoke of a senior royal) urged and convinced her to write that letter to her father.

Bower tells a different story: both Charles and the Queen wanted her to go and visit her father.

She claimed that she could not even contact her father through his phone because she did not know if he was still in possession of his phone (plenty of evidence he was including him saying so). She claimed she could not visit him because it would be impossible to go to his home without being seen.

In my personal experience, this is typical narc behaviour. They either resist doing something for no good reason or demand that you do something that does not make sense at all. If you go along with them (let them get away with not doing something or do something they demand you do), you end up in a mess that you have to clean up. If you try to insist they do what you ask of them or resist doing what they demand of you, they throw a tantrum and become increasingly threatening and destructive.
Sandie said…
A possible reason for the American publication date being later than the UK publication date is that the book has to be translated from Standard English into American English. Spelling, terms used for the same objects, and punctuation are different for the two variations of English. (In the past, I have translated American English into Standard English for a local market.)

If an American publisher/bookseller simply imports the book to sell to the American market, then no translation is done. This seems to have been the deal with the digital version of the book available on Kindle.

However, if an American publisher has negotiated publishing rights for the American market, then a translation is likely. The American publication may even require additional endnotes (or dootnotes or rewriting of text) to explain British customs and traditions (especially royal) that an American audience may not know.

I suppose it depends on if the American publisher wants to just earn a quick buck selling the book to the American market or if it wants the American edition to reach a large audience.

Another reason for the delay may be that libel laws are different and thus the book needs additional work to fireproof an American publisher from the litigious couple.
Este said…
The more I sip Bower's tea, the more I'm impressed I am by the delicate layers that emerge over time; like that delicious nugget confirming the Halfwits fell out with one of the world's true power couple's over pictures only the couple were authorized to leak and profit from. See it might not matter whether Megaliar is nasty to the peons who are lucky to even breathe the same air as her. But it matters how you treat the Beckhams, a global brand and media icon decades in the making. It seems like Megaliar also doesn't get that using people for your own social media gain works both ways. The Dimwits who would be Queen plus one just lost 2 key players on their celebrity chessboard whose heartfelt Twitter and Instagram support they really could have used last week. Ahhh, if only they didn't burn their bridges, beefing over who gets to micro-profit over some stupid photo ops. Not smart and this is how you squander a massive lead in the race to prove you in fact are number one.
Sandie said…
By the way, the difference in libel laws between the UK and America seems to have sparked off the rumour that the American edition will include additional chapters.
SwampWoman said…
NeutralObserver saidRe: Bower's book in the USA. I don't know enough about publishing to know why it hasn't shown up in pre-order on the big US book websites like Amazon & Barnes & Noble. I noticed that his publisher, Blink, seems to be an imprint of Bonnier Books UK, which seems to be a Swedish owned company. I don't know anything about international publishing rights. Perhaps Blink doesn't have enough clout outside of Europe to get Bower's book promoted & distributed to great fanfare in the USA. The big monster cos., like Harper Collins & Random House seem to be able to move heaven & earth when they want to promote a book. The book is selling like hotcakes in the UK, you'd think $$$ would motivate book sellers to make it available.

Maybe the publishing company's marketing study suggests that costs would outweigh sales for the book in the USA? While I will pay $$$ for a hardback copy of something that I will consult multiple times, a one-time reading means that I will get a digital copy (or pick it up at a thrift store). I *used* to frequent libraries to keep my bookshelves less cluttered. Libraries have turned into enclaves for drug addicts/mentally ill drug addicts. Parked cars are broken into. Purses are snatched. Kids are assaulted and their shoes and phones are stolen. They have drag queen story hours for the kids, too, as an added attraction.

Now my clutter is digital. I wonder whether we are the last literate generation.
gfbcpa said…
My Book Depository order has just arrived on American soil... in York, Pennsylvania to be exact, per the tracking number. Hopefully I will have it by the end of the week.
Museumstop said…
Oh, I am loving it that it's PageSix (isn't it US-based) that says the palace told them there's no invite to Balmoral.

If I have got it right, then, maybe, the Palace media control now understands that briefing only British RR is not working, they will fight the duo on their home ground. I am loving it.

Museumstop said…
@Fifi LaRue

That such a review was posted in The Guardian was a surprise to me. Difficult to read no doubt, and she almost sounds like one of the squad who attack not the information, but the person and their looks and arbitrary connections.
Museumstop said…
Wouldn't it be funny if the wife meets someone new and her complexion begins to lighten with every sighting of her thereafter. Right now she's heading towards 'tanning mom' category in effort to cosplay a POC with a vengeance. A new man may will change her goals.


Catching up on feeling hate discussion. I have felt hatred for her in certain moments - example Ulvade photoshoot. Most other times I am disgusted. Hate is too extreme and too destructive to feel it constantly or even often.
OCGal said…
Good morning, Nutties, one and all. I just read a fun comment* in reference to Meg being an obnoxious pain in the rear as a model for mass market clothier Reitmans:

"...(the) book will be a best seller and will be turned into a major motion picture/ box office hit. Move over “The devil wears Prada”…. The Devil wants Dior but alas wears Reitmans!!!" - end quote -

Haha, i love it!

* credit for this wit goes to Sugar Mama in comments section Meghan's Mole Youtube video with Reitmans in title
Hikari said…
I ordered my copy of Tom's book on 14 July from Book Depository but that confirmation is the only communication I have received thus far. It only said 'dispatched soon'. So my copy is not enroute yet, Have any American Nutties received theirs?

Regardless of when the preorder was placed, vendors are prohibited from shipping out items that have not officially dropped yet. They would get in big trouble for releasing a book before the official publication date out of their custody in their warehouses. So nobody on either side of the Atlantic had their book in the post prior to 21 July. So I've only officially been waiting 5 days even though it will be two weeks on Thursday when I placed the order. With so many excerpts everywhere, it's getting hard to avoid seeing that material when I'd prefer to wait to read it for myself.

The Guardian 'journalist' above whose name I won't condescend to remember because she's obviously in the paid sugar troll camp slings mud at Bower's book as full of 'wild malice' and calls it a 'protracted bitchfest'. Maybe TB would have done better to not describe MM as greasy-haired and high on the Larry King show. Without results of a drug test we can't be positive she was on substances but I've seen the interview and she is indeed jangly and unkempt with manic eyes, all classic signs of something other than just being nervous at doing a TV interview.

I smell fear in the air from the Sussex Squad, which will do all they can to discredit TB's work. Even if we here feel that the 'revelations' are small potatoes about who made who cry at a dress fitting or one offhand remark from the Queen about not wanting to see M at Philip's service . . and we're disappointed that there isn't more Kraken--still, Tom's book is gold. It will be confirmation of so much that we've speculated about here for the past 4 years. The huge stuff about the pregnancies and why those children are never seen and we only get obvious PhotoShop projects reflecting them . . I thought it'd be too good to get that in an expose. Maybe in a courtroom one day, but TB had to ensure this book could make it to press and not have a DNP order slapped on it. I trust his meticulous research.

As for the holdup in the States on publication . .we've had tons of other royal biographies over the years, most of them 'unauthorised' which were published in the U.S. I suspect that there are a number of international licensing issues to be sorted out, especially since this work is centered on a couple who is so litigious. American publication can lag UK publication by as much as two years, but that generally applies to fiction works. Something au courant about current events and newsworthy public figures is time-sensitive and would not be held so long. But there might be considerations for the American market that are going to hold the book up for some weeks. I'm sure American retailers and libraries are keen to get it ASAP.
Mel said…
I have felt hatred for her in certain moments - example Ulvade photoshoot.
---------

So true. The only time in my somewhat long life that I ever felt overwhelming hatred.

I was surprised at the fountain of hate that welled up and poured out of me. I didn't think I could even feel that much hatred for someone.
Sandie said…
To be taken with a huge pinch if salt:

----------
A little birdie tells me that all is not well in the H&M camp. It also tells be that, maybe, just maybe... Harry is starting to see the light and is realising what a twat he's been, and how much 'doo doo' he is in! Apparently, a friend of his has told him to stop digging and to start swimming as fast as he can... and very, very soon.
My source is a good one but can't guarantee it's full authenticity.
Steph x
https://thebuckinghampalacetattler.quora.com/A-little-birdie-tells-me-that-all-is-not-well-in-the-H-M-camp-It-also-tells-be-that-maybe-just-maybe-Harry-is-star?ch=15&oid=75725874&share=e591e6a7&srid=uE5bRS&target_type=post
----------

IMO, he is miserable but still very much attached to TBW.

DesignDoctor said…
Just received notice that my copy of Revenge is on its way to me in the US from Book Depository. Yaaaay!
Hikari said…
To be taken with a huge pinch if salt:

----------
A little birdie tells me that all is not well in the H&M camp. It also tells be that, maybe, just maybe... Harry is starting to see the light and is realising what a twat he's been, and how much 'doo doo' he is in! Apparently, a friend of his has told him to stop digging and to start swimming as fast as he can... and very, very soon.
My source is a good one but can't guarantee it's full authenticity.
Steph x
https://thebuckinghampalacetattler.quora.com/A-little-birdie-tells-me-that-all-is-not-well-in-the-H-M-camp-It-also-tells-be-that-maybe-just-maybe-Harry-is-star?ch=15&oid=75725874&share=e591e6a7&srid=uE5bRS&target_type=post
----------

IMO, he is miserable but still very much attached to TBW.


@Sandie--

Sadly for Hazza, I concur.

I do not lend any credence any more to rumors of an imminent split based on some huge public blowup they've had. All has never 'been well' for this couple. They've had screaming matches for all to witness since at least the Australia tour. Let's remember that the signs of marital discord were that early--only 5 months after the wedding. Smirkle was bored already and the devaluation of Hazza would only continue very publicly from then on, as she treated him like a servant on every shared engagement in the moments she wasn't clinging to him like a limpet.

I think until the 'pregnancy announcement' the BRF was trying its best to work with the Sussexes . . HM gave them prestigious patronages and they were given no fewer than three Royal tours in the ridiculously brief time they were in harness (Ireland, Australia & South Africa). They were prominently featured in every official Royal family event, even though they pitched a wobbly two years' running and refused to come to Balmoral. Even banishment to Frogmore was still 'in the fold'. That could have been a lovely family home for a less greedy and aggrieved couple. Do you all remember a piece that appeared shortly after the birth of 'Archie' in which Smegs enthused about how she loved walking with Bubs to the organic farmers' market and watching lawn bowls from the nursery window? (A geographical impossibility as was easy to prove, unless Smegs had Superman's vision).

Hikari said…
This couple has never lived harmoniously together or had a 'good' period . .it's all been PR. If Harry is either Borderline PD (as it has been suggested many many times over the years that his mother suffered from as well) or the 'vulnerable narcissist' category, he is addicted to the drama of being around his malignant Narc. He's trying to recreate the golden days of the love-bombing but the idiot doesn't realize that those aren't coming back. It's been more than 4 years; Haz is not swift on the uptake but I'm beginning to think that he will never leave her. He's locked in a toxic co-dependency with her. She will pull an Amber Heard, I think, when she's done with him, but the fact that she hasn't bolted yet means that he's still got some utility for her, if only as a laughingstock. She was with Trevor for nearly a decade . . 7 years as a live-in girlfriend and less than 2 years as his wife. She might have lasted longer except that Suits came calling and gave her an 'out' since she had to move to Toronto. If Harry met her in 2016, married her in 2018 and just celebrated his 4th anniversary in the prison of their love, then he's 6 years into a stretch that could potentially go on for another 3, 4 years. Longer if she smells opportunity for more money/a bigger reinstated role/security in the Firm upon the ascension of Charles. I do not think she will discard Harry before his father becomes King . .but if she doesn't get what she's banking on in terms of 'promotion', she will instigate divorce proceedings for the attention and to force more money out of the RF. Wonder what will happen to 'the children' in such a scenario.

In any case, Haz does not have the strength of will to leave her before she leaves him. He's a nasty child clinging to his evil Mummy. He knows there's nothing back in England for him and * is his only life raft.
snarkyatherbest said…
so the hubby has his book coming out. curious to see if he is out there promoting it. will she show up at the promos or for the interviews will interviewers ask hard questions in light of the Bower book or will the not touch it because his book is about “his own truths”. this could get very interesting. and a couple good shows for au to analyze 😉. will they be donating the book to all ButterYp clients or to be read at local preschools.
snarkyatherbest said…
so the hubby has his book coming out. curious to see if he is out there promoting it. will she show up at the promos or for the interviews will interviewers ask hard questions in light of the Bower book or will they not touch it because his book is about “his own truths”. this could get very interesting. and a couple good shows for us to analyze. 😉. will they be donating the book to all ButterUp clients or to be read at local preschools.
Foose said…
The Spectator's Steerpike highlights the story about Charlotte being bullied by Harry's Harridan. Comments are gold!
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/did-meghan-markle-terrorise-a-three-year-old-
DesignDoctor said…
@OCGal
Love that comment, too! Thanks for sharing
Fifi LaRue said…
Megaliar was publicly humiliating Hairy early on at someone's wedding. They were sitting in a pew, behind the Wessexes? She was rolling her eyes, and scolding him, while all his nervous tics were in full blown action.

As soon as she signed the dotted line, the love bombing ended, and the devaluation began. Right away, she didn't waste any time.

And the destructive train she's driving, it's called the LOCO motive.
Museumstop said…
@Sandie

Yes, I too feel he isn't there yet.

It's a convoluted relationship and situation.

Since the wife often projects, her complaint of no phone, passport, communications to Oprah actually may be what she is doing to Harry. I am not sure he has enough access to information, personal documents, friends who aren't hers first to even think and move freely. How is he even going to swim faster than he falls in this case.

Then he's an equal shareholder, if not greater as an enabler, of this mess. Harry's not above being deceptive and sly himself.

It is he who jumped the order in the funeral procession to take his place behind William so that they are pictured together. It is he who also broke through the rows of chairs to walk behind William and Kate at the commonwealth day service. It is a younger but forever jealous Harry who the British press courted because he would give them gossip.

He is aware that his emotionally distressed pics and videos get scrutinised and create sympathy.

One minute we fear for him when we see her grabbing his arm in the UN, then there's this

https://twitter.com/hrrysgreysuit/status/1551829566972342272

This guy plays the game too.

Trying to raise the flood alarm with him is like talking to the guy who loosened the stones of the dam to cause a flood in the first place.
YankeeDoodle said…
@Opus

Thank you my laugh of today. I was just on a cruise in the Mediterranean, and the ship’s entertainment one evening was called “The British Invasion.” The Beatles song “I Saw Her Standing There” was an odd choice for the representation of the group, as it is about a seventeen year old girl, you know what I mean…,

If you had to pick a Royal Prince to slobber over, who in the world would fantasize over Prince Andrew? Sorry, but I drowned my sorrows in the ridiculously priced California Opus wine when Prince William married Catherine Middleton. The heartbreak! The pain! My second choice, Prince Philip, the hunk, was already taken by the time I was old enough to marry. Harry the Horrible never entered my mind, nor most of the commenters on this blog. Why wish for the two “spares” who have done nothing in their lives but embarrass themselves?

As to Rachel, I am sorry for her self-hatred; please do not project her feelings onto other people.
Este said…
This just from CDAN: The alliterate one had multiple meetings with the ghostwriter writing her husband's biography. She wanted to make sure there was a dumpster full of dirt in the book.

I'm sure they will be keeping it classy alright but the tide has turned against these two. The real power players you'd think would be in their corner are silent as the grave, which speaks volumes.

Still no word from BFF Serena I don't know who that woman is Willians?
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2022.07.26-184351/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/07/26/meghan-duchess-sussex-denies-lied-oprah-winfrey-growing-child/

The article is about Samantha's lawsuit. There is no new information in the article at all. Why write it and publish it? I am bemused. Surely the Telegraph is not a tabloid that repeats old news and views in the disguise of new articles?
Hikari said…
@Foose

I believe there is a special pit in Hell for those that abuse children and animals, and Madam has earned her place there.

Sociopathy is such a complex thing. It's been postulated that the formation of *'s narcissism came, as it does, at a very early and formative age and the source of the narcissistic injury was neglect by her largely absent mother. Even if Doria was physically present during *'s first 5 years of life, she was emotionally unavailable to her daughter due to her regular drug use and, I'm guessing, general disinterest in being a mother to a demanding toddler/preschooler. I'm also concerned about this alleged 'open-door policy' which Doria kept in her household whereby all sorts of casual friends and hangers on could drift in and out whenever to smoke weed or get it on with Megsie's old lady or who knows what. *'s hypersexualized behavior as her primary method for getting attention from men is a centerpiece of NPD for the female Narc but also is a very persuasive marker for early childhood sexual abuse. Who knows what when on between some of these men that were in and out of Doria's house and little M if Doria was engaged elsewhere, out of the house altogether or stoned and out of it?

Tarot by Andie's latest entry explores *'s relationship with her mother and although I have no belief in the cards because the reader can make them 'say' whatever she wants to fit her narrative--Andie does offer some astute analysis of young *'s effed-up childhood, stuffed with material things but devoid of that which she most craved: her mother's undivided attention. By the time she came to live with Thomas, she was a little diva monster already and he twisted himself in knots trying to keep his princess happy--an impossible goal to achieve for more than 5 minutes at a time. He indulged her out of guilt and to make up for all the hours he spent working. I doubt highly that Doria was working during those years . maybe her alleged incarceration was for dealing weed. Tom made his mistakes with his daughter but he was supporting everyone to the style they demanded and the television industry is not renowned for its reasonable hours. Andie says that everyone needs to stop blaming Thomas for the way * turned out . .that she was already ruined when he took over custody and that was her mother's doing.

Hikari said…
If H could only get clarity that this father-in-law he reviles and has never condescended to meet in person was very likely trapped in the same kind of relationship with *'s mother--I think the scales would fall from his eyes. Has Thomas himself realized that his younger daughter is the way she is because her mother is the way SHE is? Pictures of young Doria, 24 years old show a cute lithe young woman, very appealing for an older guy who was maybe looking for a bit of brown sugar. Anyway, she love-bombed Thomas, got him to leave his wife and devastate his first family . . then very swiftly had the baby, but within two years, she dumped him like garbage. * was a cute smiley curly-haired baby but it turned dark quickly in her little life. Lots of us are ignored by our moms in a benign sort of way and don't turn out to be sociopaths. Depression is a common reaction to parental apathy or exhibitionism maybe. Some kids get in trouble with the law or drop out of school or get pregnant or run away from home just to provoke a parental reaction, but the kind of hardcore sociopathic traits exhibited by * point to real trauma--physical/sexual abuse, deprivation of basic needs, the kind of toxic drip drip drip of verbal abuse that a Narc elevates to a premier level.

All of *'s tricks I think * has learned from her mother. Doria doesn't get any free pass. She was a useful tool for her daughter's brand and I believe that she's been paid off to be quiet and compliant the same way * pays off the likes of Omid Scabies and her PR people and her lawyers. Doria is an employee who is only trotted out when she's needed for optics. Not that I believe there are any children . . but if there's a con, Doria's in on it. Did nobody else in the mainstream world think it odd that Doria was not invited to the baby shower at the Mark Hotel? That looked odd in terms of the happy families narrative * was trying to put out. She and most of the other guests traveled at great expense across the ocean to attend this shindig but * didn't get her mom a plane ticket from L.A. so she could attend the party feting the imminent birth of her first grandchild? We know how Doria loves a party . . I considered whether Doria had NOT been told of the ruse with Moonbump and was not invited because she'd know immediately that Rachel wasn't really pregnant . . but then I decided that it was more in the lines of a punishment--her daughter was letting her know that she'd been relegated to the 'Not good enough/hip enough to meet my celebrity friends' pile that Thomas had been languishing in. All this folderol about Doria criss crossing the Atlantic back and forth to Windsor to be a live in nanny for weeks at a time, pop up at the christening, back to L.A., back to Windsor for more nanny duty . .it's all fabricated bulls--t. I do not believe she's been to England since the cookbook launch in the fall after the wedding. She wasn't invited to come to New York for a weekend but she'd just completely drop her life in L.A. for 3 or 4 months to go take care of a baby in an English cottage that was a reno site? Then leave and come back 2 or three weeks later for a christening that lasted for an afternoon? More BS.

Hikari said…
When the Suxxits touched down at Tyler Perry's, I can believe Doria joined the couple there for a portion of their freeloading. After all it was in town for her and like her daughter, she doesn't give away freebies but she'll certainly take them. Squatting for free in luxury at Tyler Perry's house is a perk of being the grifter's mother and first teacher. But I do not believe the two have a relationship really. Doria has not been heard from or invoked since the chicken coop arts and crafts Christmas card of 2020 when she supposedly took the photo it was based on.

The pair of them are like the Thenardiers from Les Miserables. They'd strip a dead body of anything valuable without a second thought. Tell me Doria wasn't exhibiting Duper's Delight as she watched her daughter hook a whale in a CoE chapel. She looked nice that day but she taught her daughter all about grifting, even if * has eclipsed her massively.
Hikari said…
@Fifi

Megaliar was publicly humiliating Hairy early on at someone's wedding. They were sitting in a pew, behind the Wessexes? She was rolling her eyes, and scolding him, while all his nervous tics were in full blown action.

As soon as she signed the dotted line, the love bombing ended, and the devaluation began. Right away, she didn't waste any time.

And the destructive train she's driving, it's called the LOCO motive.


That was Eugenie's wedding, mere moments after she'd walked into St. George's Chapel in the oversized and gaping maternity coat; a few hours on from this, we'd hear reports of her 'announcement' at the reception.

I believe that she'd told Haz that very morning, possibly in the car on the way to the ceremony that *today was the day* that Operation Sussex Heir was launching and he was desperately trying to head her off. He looked frantic in the pews like he desperately had something he needed to speak to her about urgently and the more fidgety he got the more she pointedly ignored him pretending to be deep in conversation with Zara.

I think the surrogacy angle had been discussed between them even prior to the engagement and H might have been theoretically on board but for some point in the distant future, not just a few months after their marriage, and NOT to get the con rolling on the wedding day of his cousin. H was sandbagged by this announcement but I don't think he believed that his wife was really pregnant. I think both halves of this couple are well aware that they are sterile and H might have signed on to con his family but thought that he'd be able to control the narrative in his own marriage as to if and when that plan rolled out. Silly b*st*rd.
Teasmade said…
US friends: Thought I had posted this last night, but maybe not:

Book is available on US Amazon, but it helps to search using the ISBN, 9781788705035.

It's free if you have Kindle Unlimited, $6 for full-price Kindle. $28.37 hardback, delivery Aug 10 - Aug 25.

No issues with "woke", publishing timetables or anything else. Wish I could post a screenshot.
HappyDays said…
Hikari said… The huge stuff about the pregnancies and why those children are never seen and we only get obvious PhotoShop projects reflecting them . . I thought it'd be too good to get that in an expose. Maybe in a courtroom one day, but TB had to ensure this book could make it to press and not have a DNP order slapped on it. I trust his meticulous research.

@Hikari: I’ve been listening to H.G. Tudor over at narcsite, who is reading TB’s book with his own commentary, and I think you are right that there will be a lot of courtroom mudslinging if the Sussexes ever divorce.

In one pf the chapters that discusses Meghan disposing of Trevor, Bower gave an account of Meghan telling a family member that the reason she divorced Trevor was that he had treated her badly, which surprised the family member. From accounts in the book by others who knew the couple, Trevor worshipped the ground she walked on, so Meghan saying Trevor had treated her badly fits in more with her lying than her accusation of him treating her badly does.

An accusation like that is Meghan absolving herself from being any part at fault and also allowed her to portray herself as a victim.

Throwing mud at Trevor was much easier than admitting she had wrung every bit out of him that she could get and was dumping him because he was no longer useful.

I suspect if the Sussexes ever part ways, it will be a spectacularly nasty divorce featuring Meghan accusing Harry of doing everything but invading Ukraine.
Teasmade said…
@Hikari: Totally agree about Doria. Well said.
snarkyatherbest said…
Hikari. i suspect her hatred for Catherine is also borne out of catherine being a very loving mother. how dare she sore on her children and protect them. her little announcement about the pregnancy at Eugenie’s wedding had my friends who were either previously pro-american princess or in the very least neutral suddenly rethinking their opinion. how dare she do that to a bride. who does that.
I had a break from the book, but I’m up to chapter 11 - Reitman’s take two. Yes, there’s two chapter 11’s. It’s a much fuller detailed of Maggot’s Reitman’s fashion shoot and what a complete nightmare she was to the crew and how entitled she was. That’s as far as I’m so far. 🥴

Her life since a mid teen appears to have been m meticulously planned by her, there doesn’t seem to be any room for serendipity or chance. She’s constantly rewriting her past and present and reinventing herself. A shape shifting chameleon. 😳😟
We've mentioned Marcel Duchamp and Dada here before I've had an idea which any Nutty can take up with my blessing, it might sell well:

Print postcards of * as Duchamp's version of the Mona Lisa, ie with her awful hair but without moustache & beard, captioned L A H O O Q - to be said as the names of the letters as pronounced in France** - it fits her perfectly.

**sounds like `Elle a chaud au queue'...
If all all else fails, try Google translate, although I'd say `in' rather than `on'.
Lady C has said that she believes Tom Bower is a Barrister, and so far she’s found his book heavy going…and that the book is argued the way a Barrister prosecutes a case, and I agree with her. 🤗
Lily722 said…
Hi everyone, lurker since the beginning; never posted.

Thanks to all the informative musings of the posters of this blog who are too numerous to mention. Your posts have been a beacon of light since the fog started in 2018.

Things I have always pondered:

I have never thought HasBeen was anything to look at: his beady eyes, his childlike speech, his turned-out feet (as the Toronto mouth piece used to mention), and his wiry, red hair. How could someone who looks exactly like the Duke of Edinburgh turn out so dim looking?

Why do TBW's dentures look exactly like Angelina Jolie's teeth circa 2005? Did she stalk AJ's dentist and ask for a copy of her impression? What did it take to procure the mold of AJ's teeth?

@snarkyatherbest mentioned upthread that Megaliar is envious of Catherine being a loving mother. I agree and I have also thought her vengeance against Catherine was because Catherine married William and Meganuts ended up with Hapless Harry. I know I would be raging too.

Why does anyone (the media) believe the bull**** that Sunshine Sucks produces on a weekly basis? Most of their drivel is a diversion from negative headlines highlighting the Princess of Montecito's contrarian behavior. She would never visit Balmoral because she would not be able to relieve herself in the middle of a heather laden garden at the gates of the estate.

Sorry for the long post.
Hikari said…
@Snarky and Lily (welcome Lily…please post more!)

Megaliar has so many reasons to be jealous of Catherine. Of course, she’s tall, slender, beautiful, has great hair, wears clothes like a dream, married the world’s most eligible bachelor, got Diana’s ring, gets to wear tiaras from the Royal vault, has three healthy kids who are unimpeachably hers, effortlessly athletic, gets all the good patronages, is the doyenne of several huge houses and…will one day be the Queen Consort of the United Kingdom. But even if she didn’t have all of that, mega nuts would still be jealous of her because of her solid and grounded family life with two loving parents and two siblings close to her in age. All the Middleton’s are physically attractive people. If Thomas had been able to hold his own with Michael Middleton in the Silver foxy dad category, he wouldn’t have been ghosted and treated like an embarrassment. He would’ve been at the wedding.

Catherine is able to be a loving mother to her children because her parents gave her a role model of how to be that. And Megan that parents taught her how to be what she is. So there’s that.
Hikari said…
Lily,

Whenever Harry walks, with his feet splayed and legs akimbo, he reminds me exactly of the cartoon character Beetle Bailey, If you are familiar with him. Harry is oddly built as so is his wife… If you ever look at them walking together, it’s glaringly obvious that they are never in sync with their steps and their body movements which couples who are on the same wave length will tend to mirror each others body language and stride rhythms. Compare William in Catherine on engagement with the Suxxits when they are out together. They clash in every conceivable way because they’ve never been in sync.

For having so many physical attributes of his grandfather, Harry is such a homely article. As a child he had fine straight strawberry blonde hair. The vast majority of human beings go through an awkward stage in adolescence though I don’t really recall William having an awkward stage. H’s Looks changed so much in the less than two years between his intake as a new boy at Eton and when he was 14 or so… To call puberty on kind to him would be an understatement.

He should’ve been sent to Gordonstoun and maybe this whole mess could have been avoided. That had to have been a better fit for Harry’s temperament then poncey Eton… Where Tom Hiddleston incidentally was a classmate of William’s. Tom would go onto are in a double first and classics from Cambridge, Just another example of how H was totally out-classed at that school.
SwampWoman said…
Hello Lily722, nice to meet you, you should post more often!

Henrietta said…
Tweet from Maggie (@MaggieMobRules):

Know I've said goodnight but just heard Bower will reveal more in a later paperback. Don't believe this is a moneymaking ploy. Genuinely believe he'll release it on same day as Harry's 'Whinefest'. Couldn't delay the book we have any longer cos he KNEW we were getting impatient😎
Lily722 said…
Hi Hikari and SwampWoman! Nice to meet you too. I've admired your postings from afar.

Yes, I remember the Beetle Bailey cartoon (LOL). You are right, Hapless and TBW are always out of sync. I think it's because Megsy is always trying to Zola Budd her soulmate to the nearest sand trap. Can you imagine what life would be like competing with her every minute of every day? No wonder why he looks like he's aged twenty years in the last four.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Hikari: Thank you for all your posts. Doria was hauled out at the NAACP "award" ceremony that * purchased.

Oh, for the good ol' days when there was one Sunshine Sacks posting a week. The PR postings are now multiple and daily.

If * was paying $7500/month as a nobody actress, and presumably $75,000/month with Hairy's money, it's now gone to at least $300,000/month since Tom Bower's book debuted.

Mr. Sukkit: say goodbye to your inheritance sooner rather than later.
Hikari said…
@Lily,

“Megsy’s always trying to Zola Budd her soulmate into the nearest sand trap” wins Hikari’s Post of the Day. 🥇Brava.

You might have to explain that reference, but I think most of us here have been around long enough to get it. So true, a narc absolutely cannot allow anyone else around them to shine.

Harry made the same mistake his father did in choice of wife. Both married a woman who appeared to adore them, and since both require excessive admiration and ego-stroking, they expected their wives to fill those needs. Unbeknownst to them, however, that it’s married a woman who herself requires excessive admiration and ego stroking. C’est Le impasse.
KnitWit said…
Swampwoman and Mel, I agree with your lack of desire for H. I never heard any of my friends say he was sexy, even back in his Vegas days.

I am sapiosexual. H is lacking in intelligence. In short, Dullards like H dont light my fire. I also avoid men with Mommy issues.

I suspect H has unconventional sexual appetites. It took a scheming, ambitious, experienced person like M to fulfil and/or facilitate them. She could write a best seller on kinky x-rated love bombing. Perhaps her next act could be as a Madame in Las Vegas catering to the rich and powerful. Bet she has some world class tricks.

Opus, you should be aware that women who refuse to use sexual favors for career advancement or financial gain have no respect for faux feminist sexual opportunists.
KnitWit said…
@Karla, my mother was also a narcissist and/or borderline.

She claimed/damaged several lives. I escaped alive. I am instinctively drawn to friendships with older women who repeat that pattern in different yet still painful ways. The subconscious is powerful. Now that I am aware of my weakness, I need to be certain to stop repeating destructive patterns.

The Sussexes ( and others like Amber Heard) have encouraged discussion of personality disorders. I hope that this awareness helps other survivors of psychological abuse.
KnitWit said…
I am still reading and catching up on my phone. I want to mention that Americans can search the IBSN in Kindle to find the book. Anyone with Kindle unlimited can read it online. I learned this from cdan today. Amazon may be making it difficult to find the book on kindle in order to increase hard copy sales.
News of Samantha’s case, from the Telegraph:

Meghan, Duchess of Sussex denies she lied to Oprah Winfrey about growing up an only child

At https://uk.yahoo.com/news/meghan-duchess-sussex-denies-she-183053764.html
Magatha Mistie said…

Cheers to DesignDoc, Karla
and WildBoar, thank you 😊

@WildBoar
Love LAHOOQ, delish!
How about
The Scream by Munch
Elle Crie
Elle a froid au coeur
LAFOOC?
Sorry Maneki, bit messy 🥴

Magatha Mistie said…

Glasgow Kiss*

Their invite to Balmoral
More lies, folderol
Haz not wanted
nor his manky mongrel
The Queen’s had enough
taken it’s toll
All over for red rover
and sayonara to moll, lol…

*head-butt



Magatha Mistie said…

@Lily
Hahaha, relieving herself at
Balmoral gates
Guilding the heather, vulgaris
Zola Budd, blast from the past
who knows who kicked first
I’m glad to see they’re now mates


Este said…
Just passing along some secondhandcoke I came across on Reddit about most recent CDAN blind on Halfwits Bookie Book coming out. Who knows if true but these words here are really just feelings, nothing more than feelings

He has an impeccable rep. My sources in publication have said the hold up with Harry's book is that J.R. Moehringer won't put just any bullshit that Harry says in that book. I've got it on good authority that Harry tried to insert that bullshit about Diana dying because she was in a relationship with a darker skinned gentleman and it was refused on multiple levels, starting with Moehringer. Meghan can meet with him until the cows come home. Unless she's telling the truth with verified receipts, she wasted her time.

I guess it is too much to ask that she realize that nothing she can ever do or say will ever make her well-liked.
NeutralObserver said…
@Henrietta, That's interesting. It could be that the updated version is going to be released in the USA, & that's why the book is so hard to find on book websites. Having to use the IBSN that @Teasmade mentions on Amazon is pretty unusual. That's most likely for the original UK version, & the USA version might be different. The book is potentially such a great beach read, that it would be a shame if the publishers miss the crucial vacation month of August here in the USA.
Teasmade said…
@KnitWit: The same Amazon link, accessible via the ISBN, goes to the hard copy and the Kindle versions, so if anything, the Kindle version, which would give immediate access, is being equally "encouraged".

I'm no big promoter of Amazon--they don't need little old me to support them!--but I doubt they would connive to sell a much more expensive version, available in, what? three weeks? over a very cheap, immediately available version for $6.

That said, I just found it via the usual search. I opened a new screen, put in the title, specified "books," and there it was under New Releases. #20 in popularity. So either SOMEONE's buying it, or those algorithms are busy!

Good luck, all!
Este said…
From SaintMeghanMarkle reddit page, some interesting feelings here, inherently subjective, unverifiable.....

The Duchess of Sussex’s account of her upbringing in her Oprah interview was not meant to be “objective fact” but a subjective statement of her feelings, her own lawyers have argued in a defamation case brought by her estranged sister.

Will the defamation case go forward? That's what this Enquiring Mind really wants to know!
Este said…
I didn't realize feelings influenced whether you were an only child. The Meghan that is emerging from Bower's Bookie Book is truly Lady Macbethian. Is it any wonder the power players have Meghan Markled them? Who wants to be aligned with this toxic trainwreck? And they are smoking too much Cali weed if they believe Harry's Revenge will launch them back into the Archie golden media shower days. The only question will be the fall out to those unfortunate families aligned to this trainwreck, who I'm sure will dearly wish they could feeling aka erase them out of existence. William talking about his family, well I FEEL like an only child...

I never got my PhD in Bullsh*tology but I feel like I earned it so please call me Dr Este going forward and know a bonafide, self-proclaimed, uninsured yet fully bonded on Enron cryptocurrency Doctor of Bulls*t is now up in this crib!

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghan-markle-denies-she-lied-to-oprah-about-being-an-only-child/news-story/8706bac5fc120be967411c69309ceeaf
snarkyatherbest said…
este. with her “subjective truth” excuse for things said at the oprah interview she will try anything. glad the ghost writer is pushing back.
Fifi LaRue said…
Would someone explain the Zola Budd reference? I looked her up briefly, but still don't get the reference.

Also, the LAHOOQ leaves me baffled. Explanation? Thanks!

@Karla: Always put your self worth first in any situation. I have an understanding of parents with BPD.

On CDAN * used to be regularly excoriated; with the latest "blind" she's becoming a laughingstock.
Maneki Neko said…
@WildBoar

LAHOOQ! That's a good one. I had a good laugh! (I didn't know that one).


@Magatha

Oui, elle a froid au cœur! Not sure there's an acronym for that. Please don't apologise, your ditties are always welcome.
Sandie said…
Off on a tangent: There have been repeated rumours that the duo secretly married even before asking the Queen for consent.

Speculation 1: Secret wedding in Botswana? There is a long list of legal requirements for foreigners to get married in Botswana. No way the duo jumped through all those hoops! However, as in many African countries, a customary marriage is also legally recognized in Botswana. All that is required for a customary marriage is the consent of the local chief. Such a marriage would be much easier to arrange, but impossible to keep secret. Any Africans involved would have spilled the beans to the media long ago. Besides, the duo were not in Africa three days before the spectacle wedding.

My theory is that there might have been some kind of secret wedding before the spectacle wedding. She married Trevor in a court in Los Angeles a few days before her Jamaican spectacle (neither her or Trevor have ever explained why it was 'secret'). She is a known liar, at the very least, so she may have just lied to Oprah, and the world. Why did he go along with it if it was a lie?

I just find that whole story very confusing and am disappointed that Bower was not able to dig deep to answer some questions. I just have the niggling feeling that there was some truth to that story, wrapped in the packaging of lies and confusion that mat be symptoms of a severe mental/personality disorder.
NeutralObserver said…
@Knitwit, 'Sapiosexual,' thank you for giving me a rare laugh out loud moment. I don't often get one, but this blog has given me many of them, & I appreciate them.
Sandie said…
The most logical explanation is that Archbishop Welby went to Nottingham Cottage three days before the spectacle wedding. He was love bombed into going through an exchanging of vows ceremony with them (the vows that they then had framed). It was not a legal marriage ceremony, which the Archbishop told them, but in their minds it was their 'real' marriage and the hugely expensive 'spectacle' wedding, paid for at huge expense by Charles and taxpayers, was just for show.
snarkyatherbest said…
Dr Este i bow to you 😉

i love this i didn’t lie it’s subjective truth. gotta give the gal kudos for having an excuse for everything and keeping it in word salad terms

Sandie. i think k she convinced H that they had a marriage ceremony somewhere. he maybe too stuoid to realize it wasn’t leafal. perhaps the three days before was the second of the many vows exchanged.. i also think i pregnancy was involved perhaps the surrogate miscarried for her and voila it’s too late marriage at st george chapel already announced. can’t back out now. perhaps the queen found all of this out before or around the time of the public wedding hence her glare.

Knitwit and Karla and all other impacted by narcs. we do appreciate your prospective. the longer H is in this the harder it will be for him to every come out. i do think if she is burned too bad she will drive him to suicide and probably because she wants to be sporting with widows tweeds to compete with the iconic Catherine photo at Prince Philips funeral casting for archie will have to be top notch to match the Jackie Kennedy John John iconic photo.
Sandie said…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zola_Budd

Most people will have a biased, and incorrect, view of what happened at the 1984 Olympics, so how you interpret a reference to Zola Budd depends on which story you have in your mind. The Wikipedia entry has details of what actually happened.
Este said…
Word salad word of the day unfalsifiable

The truth is what I say it is!

Can't make me say something I don't wanna to say!!

I'm gonna scream, stomp my feet, throw hot tea and then drop you like dirty laundry, if you don't do what I want!

Good luck Smeggiddee controlling that all important narrative. Too bad the thread keeps unspooling, slipping just out of your grasp.

It's a cruel cruel summer, leaving me here on my own...

Serena, Serena, where ARE you? Our Little Mermaid neeeeds you now!

For your reading pleasure...
https://www.bing.com/search?q=umass+amherst+zoom+sigin&cvid=9d6aa15bcc804c9690715b0a724036e1&aqs=edge.4.69i59i450l8...8.146103j0j4&FORM=ANAB01&PC=HCTS
Sandie said…
PS Mary Decker kicked Zola Budd first, but it was not intentional and their repeated collisions (leading to injury for both: Zola Budd finished the race, but nowhere near first despite her talent; Mary Decker could not finish) was due to both runners simply not being used to running in a pack because they were so darn good - they always were gloriously alone running ahead of everyone else until that race at the Olympics. Neither woman ended up blaming the other nor held a grudge against the other for what happened.
gfbcpa said…
I am not at home right now, but I just got an e-mail that Revenge was delivered to my house.
Sandie said…
The memoir is supposed to be in two parts, so the memoir supposedly being published this year supposedly ends long before he met the deranged claw. I wonder if the two-part plan has been abandoned and there will be just one volume. I reckon that what everyone is actually interested in is the drivel about the wife so that they can point out the lies. (It would certainly dominate social media wars for quite a while and all sorts of 'experts' will be lining up to have their say.) Sure there is some interest in Diana and personal anecdotes about her never been told before will hold media interest for a brief while (especially if there are never seen before photos of him with his mother), but she died a long long time ago. He would certainly generate sympathy if he talks a lot about her and describes in detail the funeral (I suppose he would have done tapping or something to recover memories).

Perhaps I am wrong and Diana is the only draw card he has and there will be nothing at all about the deranged claw in the first part of the memoir. I just cannot imagine her not dominating and exerting control.
@ Fifi:

L A H O O Q

In English pronunciation of the names of these letters (not sounds) is `'Ell, 'Ay `(hay with a dropped `h') Aitch, Oh, Oh, Queue' which is meaningless. In French though, it sounds like `Elle a chaud (pron `show') au queue'.

Literal meaning `She has heat in the tail' ie `She's hot for it'/ `She's hot in the ****' or, to be canine, `She's on heat'



Hikari said…
@Sandie

Re. Megsie's (Second) Secret Marriage

* just loves her 'secrets' . . Having a secret gives her a feeling of superiority which she can hold over people. It's Narc fuel. We know she's extremely repetitive, lacking in imagination, so if she gets away with something once, she'll do it again. Trevor sounds like her dad and Harry--acquiescing to any demand of his princess in order to appease her, no matter how bizarre and crackbrained it seems to normal minds.

*If* the Archbishop of Canterbury came all the way from Lambeth Palace to Frogmore Cottage (where I remain unconvinced that the Harkles ever condescended to spend any time--* didn't get Windsor Castle so it would have been entirely in her wheelhouse to refuse to stay at Frogmore, despite spending/absconding with the money Chas gave them for reno) . .ridiculous to my way of thinking but perhaps he'd come for a rehearsal or pastoral counseling for the couple who needed it more than anyone has ever needed it--I could see him agreeing to let them read out the vows they'd written to him in a private meeting, whether it was in the garden or wherever . . after they had pitched a wobbly no doubt that these DIY vows were unacceptable in the CoE ceremony and having been denied reciting them in the church--and then saying a prayer. Narcs are absolutely determined to get their way by any means, even if it means making things up altogether. It wouldn't have mattered at all what Welby told her . . she can crow that she made him 'marry' them in advance. If any of that story even happened.

A normal, mature and non-devious person would understand that if any such meeting took place, it was a private devotional NOT a real ceremony of any kind. But I can see her orchestrating this for the sole purpose of having some reason to entrap Welby in scandal later or have some item for blackmail . . or some reason to later deny that he married them legitimately, and demanding a huge payout for the 'trauma'. Basically to allow him to twist in the wind. She launched that little salvo like a grenade in the Orcah interview. (No, that is not a typo. A meeting between Big O and * is two apex predators circling each other wondering who has the advantage. FYI to *: Orcas eat sharks. Specifically they devour the livers and leave the rest to rot. Even Great Whites will flee the area where orcas cruise. Orcas are mammals with much larger and more sophisticated brains than humans have. Sharks are cold-blooded fish with no reasoning capabilities, only instinctual hunger and urge to devour anything they come across, unless it's an Orca. Advantage: O.)

Welby did have to bleat his denials to the press after *'s little stunt, so she had her moment of twisted victory. People are still talking about it. If Welby was one of those charmed by Snake Eyes, let's hope he's learned his lesson. He won't be one of the ones TB was able to speak to about *, but if he could, I imagine Welby would have tons to say, including about his whereabouts on July 8, 2019 when he was supposedly performing a 'secret' christening in Windsor whilst simultaneously presiding over a church synod in York some 300 miles away.
OKay said…
@Fifi As I recall, Zola Budd was a runner who allegedly, perhaps, tripped a "friend" who was also in the race as soon as she got in front of her.
xxxxx said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11053509/Meghan-Markle-denies-lying-growing-child-bombshell-Oprah-interview.html

Samantha lawsuit
__________

By me for me, England, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

Subjective statement or her truth. Either way, to the rest of the world it's known as lies. I would love to see Meghan cross examined by Johnny Depp's legal team.

_________

Says-It-How-It-Is, chelmsford, United Kingdom, 13 minutes ago

@By me for me - forget Johnny Depps team, we'd all love to see her interviewed by Piers Morgan! It should ne a PPV. event. I'd pay for it!!

_________

Lucy Lucy, UK, United Kingdom, 17 minutes ago

As awful as Markle is and she is dreadful, I actually lay the blame squarely at Harrys door. He's the one who brought her into the RF and the UK, if it wasn't for him we would never of heard of this woman. He also enables her and goes along with her lies, Oprah is/was another enabler of Markles lies, they disgust me.

_________

Lucy Lucy, UK, United Kingdom, 10 minutes ago

Samantha was right from the start of this circus, the problem was her delivery and the claims she made sounded so outlandish, who'd ever have thought those claims she made early on would come true..? Samantha made Markle sound awful .. and she was right.
Hikari said…
P.S. Ah, I misspoke about the Harkles being in Windsor in advance of the wedding . . it would have been less inconvenient for the Archbishop to come to Kensington Palace. It's possible he did so, because there would have been wedding details to discuss and last minute pastoral counseling to perform. I think there would certainly be a notation in his official diary if he did so, and he probably was expected to keep the Queen informed of any dealings he had with her family members outside of her presence, as relates to something as ecclesiastically important as a Royal wedding or christening. But it doesn't really sit with me that the Archbishop of Canterbury would trot off to KP like a dog being summoned to do the couple's bidding. Certainly it would be privilege to call upon the Queen at Buckingham Palace, but does that extend to schlepping down to Hazza's bachelor pad where he was allegedly living in sin with the yacht girl he brought into his family to perform some half-assed 'garden ceremony' with them like he's a clerical buffoon out of Jane Austen?

I think not. Son of the Prince of Wales or no, I think Harry and his sl*g would be expected to make an appointment to see the Archbishop in his study. She lies, without question. But which details is she fabricating and which have truth? Did he visit them at KP? Wouldn't be very dignified if so. Regardless of where this meeting took place, she's engineered a he said/she said scenario in which the truth is what * says it is. She can always claim a misunderstanding (which of course would be *his* fault).

Recollections may vary.
Este said…
@snarkyatherbest...why,thanks! It's nice to share a quick tea break with others and see what their take is on the shenanigans du jour coming from The Queen, Plus One from Montecito.
Sandie said…

Blogger OKay said...
@Fifi As I recall, Zola Budd was a runner who allegedly, perhaps, tripped a "friend" who was also in the race as soon as she got in front of her.
----------

An inaccurate but no doubt firmly held view/account of what happened. I rest my case!

So what does a reference to Zola Budd mean? It all depends on what story the person using the term believes, and what story the person reading believes. So, basically, it means whatever you choose it to mean. Perfect reasoning, MM style!
-------------
Does anyone think a jury will accept that whatever MM claims to be true must be true in all circumstances if it is what she has decided, in the moment, is the truth? Amber Heard did not get away with it (pledge/donate, for example). I wonder if the claw will?
SwampWoman said…
Well, my gracious. Here I thought that making claims that were not true fell under the heading of 'fraud'. I wonder what sort of subjective truths she has put on her tax forms?
Sandie said…
@Hikari
They were living in Nottingham Cottage at Kensington Palace at the time. Frogmore Cottage was still way into the future.

Your explanation of what really happened is reasonable and makes perfect sense. Remember Welby was completely under her spell at the time. Her love bombing of him was evident during the 'spectacle' wedding ceremony.

I do find it very odd that she somehow found a way to repeat what happened in her marriage to Trevor. It is like she has a story in her mind and whoever the latest man is just slots in to her fantasy narrative.

Your explanation that it is all about domination and control, beyond reason and sometimes dangerously and destructively so, must be the reason for so much that does not make sense. The pathology runs deep in that one!
Sandie said…
Meghan Markle’s feelings don’t care about your facts​
27 July 2022, 11:50am

Did Meghan Markle grow up as an only child? She said she did, in that famously awful Oprah interview. Yet Samantha Markle, her half-sister, has taken her to court over the claim. She argues that Meghan made her feel ‘humiliation, shame and hatred on a worldwide scale.’

Rather than defending the veracity of their client’s assertion, the Duchess of Sussex’s lawyers have chosen instead to say that Meghan’s claim was ‘obviously not meant to be a statement of objective fact'. In other words, duh, people – Meghan knows she has two half-siblings, Samantha and Thomas. No, her remark was, according to her lawyers, ‘a textbook example of a subjective statement about how a person feels about her childhood'.

Well, there is something objectively hilarious about that use of ‘textbook’. Haven’t you read all those textbooks in which people claim to be only children when they aren’t? The official statements of the Duke and Duchess often deploy this torturously sub-Freudian lingo – as if not really written for public consumption, let alone clarity, but for two pairs of eyes in particular. Harry and Meghan’s apparent addiction to therapy talk – as an outlet for self-pity – o

That may be why the Markle story holds such a sway over the public imagination. We are living in the post-truth age, a time of alternative facts, fake news and algorithmic distortions. Meghan Markle is the Grand Duchess of Post-Truthiness, which is why she has gravitated back to Hollywood, the la la land where rich people can buy their reality and blather on endlessly about mental well-being. Their official Instagram, Sussexroyal™ is almost a parody of this feelings-first worldview: ‘Today, I feel …’ declares one post. You – yes, you – fill in the blank.
Maybe this really is the future. Right-wing blowhards like to say that facts don’t care about your feelings. Meghan proves them wrong: her feelings don’t care about your facts. Harry and Meghan represent the ascendant generations of millennials and Zoomers, so many of whom have been trained, almost brainwashed to feel, not think. It doesn’t matter what happens or happened. All that matters is your emotional response. Your precious ego is the sun around which everything else must orbit.

As for the Markles, they prove Tolstoy’s line that each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. Their bitterness towards each other is manna from tabloid hell. The father falls out repeatedly with his daughter. Samantha has already written a book called The Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister and attacks her on Twitter.

Then again, in Meghan’s universe, none of that needs to be true. Not objectively, anyway.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/freddy-gray
WRITTEN BY Freddy Gray
Deputy editor of The Spectator
SwampWoman said…
OKay said...
@Fifi As I recall, Zola Budd was a runner who allegedly, perhaps, tripped a "friend" who was also in the race as soon as she got in front of her.


Zola Budd was demonized for being from South Africa. Video showed that she (Budd) was pushed from behind and was not at fault. Budd's fault was that she was too shy to defend herself against the accusations of a hysterical prima donna. https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a21751547/zola-budd-after-the-fall/
Hikari said…
@Sandie

I do find it very odd that she somehow found a way to repeat what happened in her marriage to Trevor. It is like she has a story in her mind and whoever the latest man is just slots in to her fantasy narrative.

Bingo. That's it exactly. For a Narc every single person in their lives no matter who, from service people to intimate partners to parents and children only exist as bit players in their personal life drama. *'s personal fantasies repeat like a broken record . . cosplaying Diana et al. Stealing bits and pieces from other celebrities she envies. She is determined to will her own version of reality into existence . .and if she's thwarted, she just lies about it and then makes sure those that told her No pay for it in very humiliating ways.

Your explanation that it is all about domination and control, beyond reason and sometimes dangerously and destructively so, must be the reason for so much that does not make sense. The pathology runs deep in that one!

I have my doubts about Mr. Welby's, shall we say, authenticity as a dedicated minister of the Lord. One does not get to his position without being a politician first . . and he's been on the record as essentially being an atheist. As such, his role is essentially playacting at the ceremonial functions. God can work through flawed people and even non-believers, so Welby's own personal faith or lack of it does not prevent him from performing a legitimate spiritual marriage. I do not like him but in this instance, I do sympathize with him because he didn't do anything wrong. Even if he *had* run through the entire wedding ceremony and pronounced them man and wife . . there were no witnesses, which in itself would negate anything she 'thinks' happened. Couples run through their vows all the time in rehearsal and it is understood by everyone (except maybe *) that a 'rehearsal' is not the official event--especially if we only have her word that anything of the sort happened. Maybe she's been watching too many staged clandestine Royal weddings on the Showtime network. Secret marriages amongst the nobility were commonplace if the intended was 'unsuitable' . . say, a commoner (and who is more common than *, I ask you?)

* can have as many fake fantasy island/fantasy bush/fantasy garden ceremonies as she wants; doesn't make them all legit.

If Welby agreed to listen to the no doubt puke-inducing word salad they'd dedicated to one another because gee, they'd worked so hard on them and were crushed that they were not permissible in the wedding ceremony, that is in the vein of a pastor who is engaged in premarital counseling of a couple listening to the promises they are making to each other.
Nothing wrong in that; he thought he was doing them a kindness . . and look how it's turned around to bite him in his vestment-clad behind.

* was determined to get her way and then throw him under the bus because she's got contempt for any and everybody who has ever helped her or done anything nice in any way. The only people she sucks up to in faux niceness are those she hasn't been able to use yet, but is planning to. As soon as they give her what she's after, then she starts treating them like garbage. Maybe this is Narc revenge for Welby being unavailable to christen her fake doll.

It's a murky place in what passes for her mind.
SwampWoman said…
My subjective truth is that all of us will individually win the billion dollar lottery prize drawn on Friday. It doesn't matter that we can't all individually win and each of us claim a billion dollars. It doesn't matter that we don't have the winning numbers. I feel that we should be able to so my feelings are all that matter.
Mel said…
She loves her secrets and is repetitive.
------

Yep.
Family she never had - both weddings
Married 3 days before in secret - true for Trevor. How likely is this true for H?
Over 80%?

I still think they either were married earlier...Jan/Feb with Archbishop, or Botswana....or she at least told him whatever they did was legal.
SwampWoman said…
@Hikari, if they DID recite their own vows to each other in the rehearsal ceremony, what are the odds that Meghan wrote Harry's for him?
I really am an only child; my husband is the eldest of 4, the next one was born when he was nearly 9, so I can understand how he felt like an only one until then. I find it outlandish, however, for the youngest (even of step-siblings) to claim they were singletons. True, * was her mother's only child (as far as we know) but, given how Doria disappeared from her life, it's hard to see how * can legitimately claim `only' status.

Sorry, I forgot - she doesn't define `truth' in the way the rest of us do.

SwampWoman said…
My little grandchildren loved having secrets. By the time they reached the age of 5 or 6, they informed me that secrets were for babies and they weren't babies any longer.

Somebody needs to send that memo to * care of Fantasy Island.
Teasmade said…
I remember the '84 Olympics and concur with SwampWoman's comment. Mary Decker thought she had it in the bag. Zola Budd was the underdog, always sympathetic to me.

Anyway, I forgot the reference here -- someone that trips someone up? That'll do, anyway.
OCGal said…
@SwampWoman, you wrote:

“My subjective truth is that all of us will individually win the billion dollar lottery prize drawn on Friday. It doesn't matter that we can't all individually win and each of us claim a billion dollars. It doesn't matter that we don't have the winning numbers. I feel that we should be able to so my feelings are all that matter.” - end quote -

Oh boy! Thank you for generously including all of us in your subjective truth.

I am going to start spending my winnings today.
I bet that if HM had told them to have a quiet Register Office wedding, with just 2 witnesses present, no press, no paps, no party, paying their own costs, * would have screamed the Palace down, even though that would have been as `secret' as one can get legally in the England at least.

`Secret marriages' were outlawed in the 18th century almost 270 yrs ago - see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_Marriages_Act_1753

If there's one thing better than setting up a situation in which one is centre of attention, it's throwing it back in the face of those who arranged and paid for it.

BTW: In Scotland, Common Law allowed a couple to declare themselves as married as long as it was in front of 2 witnesses, until the Kirk (ie Church of Scotland) managed to gain control of the process in the early 19th C. My husband's gt-gt-gt grandparents had to appear before the `Kirk Sessions' (the church court) c1818 for a reprimand for being `irregularly married' - never mind that the secular authorities were happy with a long-established practice. I don't know if they had to do penance but would have needed a church ceremony as a result, I suppose.

Husband and I lived together for 2 years before we married - a situation still described, I understand, as `married but nae kirked' and OK by old Scottish common law.
Lily722 said…
Thanks, Hikari!
OKay said…
I will note that my comment regarding Zola Budd included the words "allegedly" and "perhaps"...I have no knowledge one way or the other (never really looked into it) and only vaguely recall the kerfuffle; merely reporting what was discussed at the time.
Maneki Neko said…
@Fifi @Wild Boar

LAHOOQ
In French, this acronym is pronounced L, A (± as in cat), ash o (= a chaud), O and Q is pronounced cu as in tu and not as queue in English. Q is the same sound as cul - the l is silent - which means @rse. Literally, she's hot in the arse but I suppose the nearest would be she's in heat?
Maneki Neko said…
H&M married before the official date of 19 May 2018? Perhaps this is a 'subjective statement' rather than one of 'fact'🙄. That was just how she 'felt'. I think we could all be creative and re-write history if we were the same.
Maneki Neko said…
Re the wedding, *, if cornered, could always say it was only a rehearsal of the wedding and the saying of the vows - she wanted to make sure everything would be absolutely perfect - the whole word would be watching! - so Welby obliged and she then 'felt', nay, she was married, even though it wasn't the real thing.
Hikari said…
I still think they either were married earlier...Jan/Feb with Archbishop, or Botswana....or she at least told him whatever they did was legal.

Though I'm not impressed with Welby as a clergyman, I do not suspect him of going behind the Queen's back to perform an unauthorized wedding ceremony without her knowledge at any time prior to 19 May 2018. The Queen is the head of the CoE and his boss, and if nothing else, I think Mr. Welby values his position. What would he gain by subverting the will of the Queen and sneaking around to marry her grandson in secret no matter how much Harry's bint batted her fake eyelashes at him? That would be a grave misuse of his position with no discernible gain. HMTQ had already assented to the marriage so it's not like Welby was assisting a 'young couple in love' who had been thwarted in their desire to marry. On the contrary, Harry had gotten everything he demanded . . barring the glitch with the tiara, but if he'd already been married and the Archbishop knew about it, he was obligated to inform Her Majesty of this. Harry should by rights have been treated the same way as his father was when he married Camilla--a registry office offair and a private chapel blessing followed by a family lunch. Why does the Heir's spare get the full-blown chapel wedding and carriage parade? Because--William had it and Harry was determined to have the same, even though the brides' situations were entirely different viz. the Church.

Even with a Botswana wedding, which would have happened . . what, a month or less after they met? . . there must be paperwork, signatories . . if not, then it was just some cosplay on the savannah. There must be extra requirements for two foreign nationals, each from different countries, with one of them a member of the Royal family of Britain, to have a legitimate marriage performed in Botswana. Blood tests? Sworn witnesses? I don't think two tourists to the country could just get legally married on a whim and have it hold up under scrutiny in their home countries.

If the Queen and the Archbishop knew about any prior binding marriage performed prior to the official wedding day and went ahead anyway, they are both beyond compromised. I can't believe that of either of them, especially the Queen. So it's far easier to just assume that * is lying again.

Thanks Maneki Neko - you've explained it more clearly than I managed. Such a long time since I did any French...
SwampWoman said…
Hikari said: If the Queen and the Archbishop knew about any prior binding marriage performed prior to the official wedding day and went ahead anyway, they are both beyond compromised. I can't believe that of either of them, especially the Queen. So it's far easier to just assume that * is lying again.

Since she hasn't exactly been a model of rectitude, I do believe that that is the way that I would bet. It is probably one of those 'subjective truths' again.
SwampWoman said…
OKay said...
I will note that my comment regarding Zola Budd included the words "allegedly" and "perhaps"...I have no knowledge one way or the other (never really looked into it) and only vaguely recall the kerfuffle; merely reporting what was discussed at the time.


I didn't mean to sound all shrewish and judgmental. (haha, too late!) I was just annoyed that the media of the day mislead so many people at the time (including me), and I wanted to set the record straight. Not that the media are models of veracity now, of course.
snarkyatherbest said…
since we know as truth/subjectively feel madam is known to um fudge birth certificates perhaps she did the same with the “marriage” certificate. H isn’t too bright. he could have been drunk and it was all signed sealed and never delivered to a registrar.

whatever happened she was the only one happy at the wedding. even the groom looked miserable. would loved to have heard the other behind the scenes stories of the days leading up to the wedding. Meg. granny’s spy guy said the wedding want real maybe we should delay things… you fill in the rest of those blanks. 😉
Sick bags at the ready - I've copied this from
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/duke-and-duchess-cambridge-us-visit-153535428.html
to save Nutties from clicking in the slimy git -

Pt1:

Prince William has his eyes set on the US - and here’s how he’s going to do it
Omid Scobie
·Royal Executive Editor
Wed, 27 July 2022 at 4:36 pm
As someone with a mostly American media career, one of my earliest challenges covering the royals was getting their PR teams to care about overseas coverage.
When the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge first got engaged in 2011, the British press was the only priority to those around the couple. Seeing the advantages of reaching US audiences took a little more time.
Access did eventually become more available but, over the years, the foreign market – including Commonwealth countries such as Australia and Canada – has often been an afterthought for palace press staff.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise. The primary focus of the British monarchy and its head of state is, of course, Britain. Its citizens being the only ones publicly funding the institution and all that it offers.
Arguments about the value of such funding are often countered with claims that the royals provide a boost to the British economy through tourism.
Past statistics have shown that out of the millions of Americans travelling to London each year – often more than any other country – the majority continue to put royal attractions such as Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace and Tower of London on the top of their to-do lists.
It’s why over the years, particularly for major moments such as royal weddings and jubilees, the palace has learned to take advantage of this.
The BBC wasn’t the only official broadcaster of the recent Platinum Jubilee celebrations. The Disney-owned ABC network in the US also had exclusive access to the festivities and all official coverage.
Though the US has long been fascinated with British royalty, interest in ‘The Firm’ was massively renewed when one of the country’s own married into the House of Windsor in 2018. The story of Meghan’s journey as a royal (and all things related to it) still accounts for the majority of royal coverage in the US.
That space was once occupied by the Cambridges. In the couple’s earlier days, one couldn’t move for TV specials and magazine covers about William, Kate and their growing family. But as their life fell into a stable groove, the excitement and curiosity for the pair waned.
With births and many of life’s major milestones checked off the list, they slowly became a tougher sell to audiences. It’s why there were no US media outlets on the couple’s recent tour of the Caribbean.
In the UK, it’s the opposite. Though the Sussexes grab more headlines, a steady stream of orchestrated appearances from George, Charlotte and Louis – and William and Kate’s efforts during the pandemic –has helped the Cambridges’ popularity rise. And it seems Kensington Palace is now hoping they can do the same in the US.
Last week, it was announced that Prince William is taking his annual Earthshot Prize ceremony to Boston this December – the first US trip for the Cambridges since 2014.
It’s an event already heavily linked with the US, with the inspiration behind it taken from President John F. Kennedy’s “Moonshot” and founding partners including Jeff Bezos’s Earth Fund, Bloomberg Philanthropies and the late Paul Allen’s family foundation.
It’s why William sat down with People magazine, still one of the country’s most read magazines, last summer for a rare interview. “William is keen for his work to be seen and have impact outside of the UK and the royal bubble,” a source tells me. “The charitable landscape in America is huge and he wants to have a presence.”
Pt 2:

Though the source made no mention of it, I wondered if a little competitiveness with his brother might be in the mix, too. Harry’s popularity in Britain may be suffering, but his rise in the US has seen the Archewell Foundation receive huge attention from an impressive list of donors, and his charitable efforts and campaigning has quickly seen him acknowledged by the likes of Forbes and TIME, who named him and Meghan two of the world’s most influential people.
Though rarely spoken about, William and Kate’s own UK-based foundation – which Earthshot started life at in 2020 –actually has its own US non-profit called the The American Friends of The Royal Foundation. Its board has included individuals from some of the country’s largest financial institutions and entertainment companies, including Universal Music CEO Sir Lucian Grainge.
And with plans for the Cambridges’ December visit to be much more than just an appearance at William’s environmental prize, sources tell me that preliminary conversations about a fundraising event – similar to the $50,000-a-head dinner the couple hosted during eight years ago in New York – have already taken place.
Recon, I’m also told, has also been scheduled for a number of royal engagements and activities for the couple in Boston and beyond. Perhaps even a trip to Washington DC.

It’s no coincidence that the couple have recently hired a new head of communications who has spent the past seven -years climbing the ranks of US mass media empire NBC Universal.

British PR chief Lee Thompson, who officially started at Kensington Palace this month, previously served as VP of global communications and strategic partnerships for the conglomerate.
Though their focus will always be in the UK—where they are currently preparing to move their family base from London to Windsor—it’s clear the Cambridges have realised a slice of American pie would be nice, too.
And who can blame them? Interest in the Royal Family on the world stage has long been an essential asset to Britain’s appeal abroad.
And with the monarchy’s declining popularity across large parts of the Commonwealth, and the UK finding itself in an increasingly competitive and globalised world, now seems like the perfect time for a much-needed PR boost.
Rebecca said…
For those awaiting delivery of their Book Depository order for Tom Bower’s book, I received mine today (US Midwest address) 6 days after ordering it.
snarkyatherbest said…
scoobie do. try harder. charles raised a ton of money for his foundation out of the US. people here like royalty real royalty. heck the crown was huge as was bridgerton (montecito madam take note. those series have been delivered where is yours?) the push is to raise a lot of money. heck when you visit the war rooms and the church hill museum they readily say most of funds raised to renovate and open them came from the US. he’s not competing with harry william is raising money in a global effort. if he happens to beat the pants off Archwell, well that’s just gravy. hmmm is there a way to make earth shot a black tie tiara event. now that would be epic 😉
snarkyatherbest said…
also scoobie do. what will you do when the reception is strong. or are the sugars lead by their queen get all masked up and boo the cambridges. Madam we will know you by your ratty wig.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Sandie 4:39 pm: Hairy went along with *"s lies to Orca, or any and all lies that she spouts, because with a narcissist and/or a borderline personality disordered individual, there is hell to pay for contradicting them, interrupting them, etc. And the hell is never ending. The transgression will be brought up over and over to emotionally beat a person into submission, to endlessly let the person know that they are stupid and get everything wrong. This is not an overstatement. Any statements from the abuser that are even faintly nice are few and far between, and that's what the victim lives for.

Thank you to all for explaining about Zola Budd, and the acronym!
OKay said…
@SwampWoman No (real) offense taken...I tend to get particular about facts myself. *L* So thank you for educating me/us! :)
Rebecca said…
@WBBM

Scobie is such a sycophant 🤮. Every one of his articles on the Royals should appear with a disclaimer.
Fifi said `The transgression will be brought up over and over to emotionally beat a person into submission, to endlessly let the person know that they are stupid and get everything wrong.'

A few years ago, my narc accused me of not writing to thank her for a Christmas present she allegedly sent me 45 years earlier. I eventually remembered she hadn't addressed to me but to her parents who were chez moi for the festivities - they took it home with them.

Did she apologise? Like H*ll she did.
Didn't ZB run barefoot? I bet she hasn't got bunions!
Henrietta said…
SecondhandCoke on Reddit:

So I was texting with Big Brother about the news that Meghan has allegedly cornered Harry's ghostwriter, Moehringer, and poured a dumpster of supposed Royal dirt on him, wanting him to add it to PH's book as revenge for Tom Bower's Revenge.

Big Brother said, "Word on the street is that she's supposedly literally screaming mad over this book. Like they said she went outside in her yard and screamed even more than she did over Kate's golden dress."

Big Brother added, "She is supposedly DESPERATE to 'set the story straight,' but she apparently can't find a journalist to broadcast her response to this book. She and of course this is ALLEGEDLY because I know you are going to run and tell Reddit, but she has been all but on her knees to Oprah to try to get Oprah to help her 'get the truth back out there' via another mudslinging interview, but Oprah, Gayle, and apparently everyone else is pretty much telling her to go pound sand. She must be using the ghostwriter as a last resort."

Anyway, that's what he said. It's not much tea, but it's a couple of drops. Also I heard today that Penguin wants to release Harry's book a day or two before or after Michelle Obama's new book. That's BAD news for Harry, and in publishing, it's a sign that they don't have a lot of confidence in Harry's book. They wouldn't release it alongside hers if they thought it would sell well on its own. Meg's rescue chickens are coming home to roost, I think.
Henrietta said…
Also from SecondhandCoke:

I've heard and believe that there already are videos of these tantrums going back to the beginning. I've heard that Princess Charlotte's security has video of the bridesmaid bullying, that they have video of the ensuing altercation where Meghan did make Catherine cry. I've heard there's video of hers and Harry's fight before that UN speech. The press has it all, but they haven't published it A) because it's obtained from private citizens, B) out of respect for the Queen, C) because Sunshine Sachs still pays enough to keep the press positive, D) they have been good and locking people into NDAs, and and E) up until now, there hasn't been the market for it. Most people would see videos like that reported in the mainstream press as intrusive and distasteful.

Now that this book is out, though, I fully expect leaks to start emerging through social media and YouTube. Once people see that they don't have to be afraid of her NDA, they will start talking, writing, and releasing that videotape.


SecondhandCoke has shared this before about the videotapes, but I just find the supposed reasons for their having not emerged a little hard to believe. B, C and E just seem underwhelming. I think if anything, BP has the videotapes and the NDAs, and that's why none of these have surfaced. Luca on Twitter used to say BP was sitting on something that could decimate MM and that they are just hiding their time. I'm not sure I believe that either.
Fifi LaRue said…
@Henrietta: Thanks for the repost. I'm guessing that Orca, and Gayle have personal assistants who field the phones/emails/texts.
The response must be, "Thank you. We'll let you know if there is any interest in another interview." Repeated ad nauseam.

Her Majesty The Queen commands such world-wide respect that anyone who has the goods on * is just biding their time.
The same with the courts in the UK, and Twit's endless suing. No one wants to cause a ruckus, and rule against anyone in the RF because it is most embarrassing to the legal professionals who have the utmost respect for the BRF.

When The Queen does leave this earthly plane, all kinds of gauntlets are going to be thrown down. Megsy better hide behind the couch.
lizzie said…
@Henrietta,

I agree.

I'm also not getting how Charlotte's "security" would have video. Those folks aren't wearing body cams are they? And if they were, surely the cameras wouldn't be turned on at a dress-fitting for little girls. People have made a big deal of the Cambridge children's privacy & that's fine but surely no one is secretly videotaping other people's children in a private "dressing room" setting with claims that must be done to protect the Cambridges, are they?

Think I'm out of the loop because I don't know where SecondHandCoke claims his/her info comes from. But I question lots of things reported here attributed to SHC.
Este said…
I personally would watch atruthful and wholely accurate reality TV show of Megaliar and the Halfwit. It should be called Keeping Up With The Dumbartons, or just Keeping Up With Dumbo.
abbyh said…
I was thinking about the timing of the release of the Bower book - maybe it was to get the other book in motion - meaning to trigger a response?
Hikari said…
Well this is deflating.

Some of you have already received your copies of the book from Book Depository, or have received confirmation that it has shipped. I just checked my account since I had heard nothing after placing my order two weeks ago.

It says “Awaiting Publication.”

What the—-?!

Demand has probably outstripped expectation and they might not have had enough copies laid in, But I think if that was the case it would say “on back order”.

I’m peeved because I think I was one of the first here to order from this outlet. If there’s been some kind of injunction slapped on it, Some copies have escaped to America. But why wasn’t one of them nine since I placed my order a full week ahead of the listed publication?

I am Put Out.
HappyDays said…
@Henrietta:

Thank you for the Reddit posts from secondhandcoke regarding Harry’s wife’s alleged reaction to the Tom Bower Revenge book and her alleged move to add dirt on the royal family to Harry’s book.

My first thought was, “How damn stupid IS that woman?”

Bower has said he talked with approximately 80 people for this book. Yes, sone of that 80 may very well be associated with the palace or royal family staff, or perhaps even a royal, but it seems fairly obvious that a large number of people he spoke with are not affiliated with the palace or the royal family. Just read all the uncomplimentary things said about her from people who have worked with her in various situations.

What executive or powerful person in their right mind (are you reading this Netflix and Spotify?) would even think of doing a business deal or project with her or the husband she controls and risk her betraying confidential or personal information or just making up lies if she gets her nose out of joint and decides to lash out in a public forum of some sort?

There are probably a few stiletto-lickers still out there, but their numbers are declining.

Like many narcissists, Meghan is her own worst enemy. Many people at all levels of business and society are watching the Sussex sh!t show are taking note.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Thanks Maneki Neko - you've explained it more clearly than I managed. Such a long time since I did any French...
----
Not at all, pleased to help. I must admit that I might have looked at the acronym (a gramogram) quickly and missed its meaning. Maybe this should be *'s new nickname?
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

I forgot to say in my previous post that Budd did run barefoot,as you said. I remember the incident with Mary Decker at the time but I think she went back to SA after a few years.
Maneki Neko said…
There is a good article in the DM about * the'only child'. I also remembered yesterday, before I read it, an American woman who claimed she was black but is in fact white. She is also mentioned in the article. 'Dolezal claimed to be of black and Native American descent. In fact she was white, since her parents were of German and Czech extraction. But when she was exposed as a fraud, she insisted that the biological facts of her birth and parentage were irrelevant. Her ‘essential essence’, she said, was black. This, in other words, was her ‘truth’.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11055709/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Meghan-child-triumph-feeling-fact.html
@Hikari - I'm still waiting for my copy and getting a bit shirty with that particular supplier. My local WHSmith told me they'd had it in but had sold out - waiting for some more to come in.
Sandie said…
@Henrietta
I second the thanks for posting the gossip from Secondhand coke.

Dominate, control, twist the truth, lie and insist everyone accept it as her truth, manipulate, grandiose grandstanding ... I think these are all deep compulsions. Capturing a prince went to her head and sent her grand ego into overdrive. She can't stop and he is too deeply complicit to be rescued from the madness. Although much of the gossip is made-up stuff fuelled by the pathology that drives such gossip, I would guess that there is a lot of instinctive truth in it.

Only a deeply disturbed person would marry a prince and become a working royal and then think and act as if she could spend money without restraint and say and do exactly what she wanted whenever she wanted. Bower's book reveals that she demanded, and got, taxpayer-funded security and transport, plus special VIP treatment at the airport, while she was still a girlfriend and shuttling between Toronto and London. She ignored and defied all of the well-meaning and wise advice about dealing with the media.

The media is complicit in going along with all of it. She wore an off-the-shoulder dress to Trooping the Colour. She repeatedly pushed herself ahead of her husband and interrupted him (there are two occasions on video where he was talking to a group of people and she rudely pushed him aside and stopped him talking so that she could take centre stage, plus more than once when she pulled him away in the middle of a conversation he was having at an official event). She created mayhem in the media using friends as her agents.

For the BRF she is a nightmare that will never end. If her husband has any decency and integrity in him at all he would step down from the line of succession (which will also remove him as Counsellor of State), give up Frogmore Cottage, and stay away from all public events involving royals.
VetusSacculi said…
My sister and brother are 5 and 6 years older than me and had both left home by the time I reached my teens. I still don’t think I could bring myself to state that I grew up as an only child, even though I was the only one still at home during the years you do the most of your “growing up”. I think that’s part of *’s issues - she’s stuck as a teenager, hooked on the adrenaline rush of having secrets and doing people over.
NeutralObserver said…
@Hikari, yes, I think you're right, demand is likely outstripping supply.

USA Amazon finally shows you the hardback version when you enter the name & author, along with a lot of junk faux books which are 'reviews' or 'summaries.' The complaints in the comments are furious & ask why Amazon is 'hiding' the book. The way it's shown on the website is very different from the way Michelle Obama's latest book is shown. Could be because her book is published by Crown, which is part of Random House/Penguin, which is owned by Bertelsmann, a German company which is like the Exxon of publishing & media. Bower's book is published by Blink/Bonnier, which might not have the clout with Amazon that Crown does. Supermarkets do the same thing with the products on their shelves. Favored companies get better placement.

Corporate relations seems a better excuse for the book's clumsy USA debut out than political issues, but who knows? I would think a book having a slight whiff of the 'forbidden' or 'banning' would increase demand. In any case, my guess is that Bower's book will sell better in the USA than The Bench or Scabie's book, regardless of the slow roll out.

Ms. 6's fans are trying to hype tiny errors, which are obviously a result of lack of time & perhaps proofreading & editing cutbacks, but I doubt any lawsuits will be launched because Scabie's name was misspelled in a few places. Bower was supposedly a bit sloppy on some American celebrities, but a lot of Brits barely know who Oprah is, much less how to say her name, so to be expected. LOL.
NeutralObserver said…
@Fifi LaRue, It could be that the floodgates on Ms. 6 won't be opened even after the Queen's death because the RF gives the 6s a certain amount of protection from the press. That's one of the reasons I think Ms. 6 will never divorce Mr. 6. All sorts of stuff could come out. Better informed Nutties can correct me, but I believe all of the news about Diana's affairs didn't become common knowledge until after the divorce, when she was no longer a HRH. Perhaps the UK public was more informed, but here in the USA coverage of her was much more anodyne until after the divorce.
gfbcpa said…
@Hikari:

Why don't you use their "Contact Us" feature and shoot them an e-mail?

When I go to their website it says "ships to U.S. in 7 -10 business days." When it shipped, I was give a tracking number.

I used to work for a company that did online shipping through a website. Orders don't necessarily go out in the order in which they are received, due to any number of factors. (Credit cards being declined, the person's address is not complete, we are short staffed because employees are on vacation, software/hardware issues...it can be anything. For example, nobody ever taught me to process a PayPal order so I skipped over those until someone else could do them.)

I would try and contact them via e-mail.
This comment has been removed by the author.
This comment has been removed by the author.
Correction! 🥹

I’m on chapter 24, but in chapter 23 Bower writes that Maggot had concealed Doria’s past when she came to the wedding. The downside of an audio book is that it’s not easy to flip back and scan the pages (unlike an actual book), because I don’t recall anything in the book thus far that goes into detail about Doria’s past. 😳🥴If I don’t hear anything, I’ll have to go back. 😩
abbyh said…
Not certain where you are getting this as I don't see anything in the blog with that (so it could easily be some disinformation about William in response to TB book) ... so ...

asking on google or your favorite search engine would answer your question. Try there.



If this on the blog, please draw moderator attention to this. Thank you
Henrietta said…
Hikari,

I ordered mine from Book Depository on 7/13, and it just arrived today. I'm on the East Coast.
Sandie said…
Revenge by Tom Bower: criticisms

I am not inviting an 'attack' on the book, but I have come across a few problems that the publisher should have addressed. My feeling is that the publisher has taken on the role of printing and distributing and did very little in the way of editing.

There are numerous little errors that are just sloppy. A good copy editor could have done a thorough check and eliminated these errors in 1-2 weeks.

An American audience especially, but a global audience generally will not know enough about the monarchy to understand how it works (financing, role, history, succession, evolution ...). I would have addressed this with information boxes, and would have even included some graphics. Yes, it adds to the design but the author should have known that the book would be a bestseller. It would have also become a lasting reference book for marginal extra cost and time.
Sandie said…
@Raspberry Ruffle
I think Bower is a bit old fashioned and thus frowns on smoking weed and a mother being absent from a child's life without what he would call unavoidable reasons. Doria supposedly also was involved in an illegal enterprise growing marijuana. Plus he mentions that she 'slept around' while married to and living with Tom, and had nude photographs of her with another woman displayed at home. While Tom was working long hours she would have lots of friends visiting who would also be smoking while she wandered around stoned. There is also the suggestion that Tom bailed her out financially after the divorce. He gives the impression as well that she flitted from job to job, career to career without sticking to anything, and although bankruptcy could be regarded as a normal business practice in America, it might be considered scandalous in the British upper classes (an old fashioned view).

So, all the 'dirt' on Doria may make her interesting in another context, but Bower seems to think it was compromising for the royal family.

The Middletons did not exclude Uncle Gary from the big wedding, and I am sure they have not ghosted him and still see him in private. I think the BRF are a lot more modern and broad minded than people give them credit for.
I heard in 1989/90, from `informal' channels, that Diana was running around with chaps she had no business to be with.

Things do get out, even third-hand, to ordinary folk like me.

@Sandie,

Thank you so much for the detailed background on Doria, much appreciated. 😃

Whether Tom Bower is a bit old fashioned when it comes to Doria’s past, is subjective, I feel there’s a lot of her past that would raise a few eyebrows of many potential in-laws, particularly royal ones. Whilst the latter are certainly no saints, it’s not expected behaviour of in-laws. It’s not unsurprising it’s not made common knowledge or has found it’s way in mainstream media on a big scale. The book said it was Maggot who concealed the info., not the palace. The royals may well have chuckled, but I think it’s the concern that mainstream media finding out about Doria’s past that would be bothersome, and I think the Palace knew and know all about Doria…...just not from Maggot. 🥴

Uncle Gary, (Carol Middleton’s brother) …we’ll he’s just an uncle, not a parent of a future Queen, there lies the difference. 🥴
Sandie said…
https://youtu.be/JwM74h89GK4

The new Palace Confidential is an interview of Tom Bower.
Sandie said…
@Raspberry Ruffle
I agree that the BRF do have to be more careful and circumspect than others. They represent the UK and are funded by taxpayers and are not elected like politicians and so on.

When you look back, it was all so messy and the behaviour of the couple so thoughtless and selfish. There was an entire Palace machinery plus the family, to help them navigate a difficult terrain but they defied and fought back and whinged and made a mess of everything. The media has a long history of digging up and publishing scandals, and of petty criticisms, and of cruel mocking. Compared with Catherine and Camilla TBW had it easy but still she could not think beyond herself and her self pity and grandiose demands.

I also doubt that the BRF knew all the details about Doria but I think they handled it well at the wedding, which is probably the only time any of them encountered her.
Sandie said…
https://archive.ph/2022.07.27-231135/https://spectatorworld.com/topic/prince-harry-toxic-boys-club-employees-betterup/

An article about the toxic Butter Up, even comparing it with Theranos. Maybe the article is exaggerating but it seems as if the Prince is sitting on a time bomb.
Mel said…
abbyh said...

I was thinking about the timing of the release of the Bower book - maybe it was to get the other book in motion - meaning to trigger a response?
------

I was wondering about that also. He seemed to be playing the cat mouse game with H's book. H's book seemed to be getting put off and put off.

There was some talk it was going to be put off until 2023. I kind of wonder if TB didn't put his book out to spur H to get his book out before H had time to put more crap into it.

Also, once H puts his book out what is there for him after that? They have nothing else in the wings? Except 2 more lame books?
Mel said…
I think the only thing they will have left after the book is the will they/won't they garbage for any and all Royal events.
lizzie said…
Gary has lots of money so that's another difference compared to Doria. W&K vacationed at his house in Ibiza before they were married as did the whole Middleton clan. There were also rumors he helped pay for Kate and Pippa's university costs. But I think there is some distance from Gary now and has been for awhile. Remember he and his daughter (not his wife) were invited to the church ceremony when Pippa got married. But none of them were invited to the reception (but Meghan was!)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4983258/Is-final-straw-Kate-s-bad-boy-uncle.html

But he wasn't invited to James Middleton's wedding at all even though he was vacationing in that area of France at the time and is James's godfather.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10004817/TALK-TOWN-Middletons-snub-uncle-Gary-Goldsmith-lavish-wedding.html
Theetome said…
Sandie, all of that is in the book about Doria? I may have to buy it.
Mel said…
The other hand, possibly Harry's book release had nothing to do with Tom Bower's book being released.

Maybe H was releasing his book to try to compete with William's Earthshot which is in early December.

I think H made his announcement about his book release shortly after the Earthshot announcement came out. I remember thinking at the time, of course H releases his book at the same time.
snarkyatherbest said…
so do we know for sure scoobie doo’s first. some isn’t omar. seems since he’s changed everything about his appearance a name change is not out of possibility. it is fairly passive aggressive to get his name “wrong”. your name is not worth a fact checker’s time. if things like this are the only things wrong and there is no defamation suit seems to me the. oil is mostly correct and someone doesn’t want it challenged in court. those 80plus interviewees may in fact testify to the truth. what’s a narc to do.
Teasmade said…
I just don't see any conspiracies at all about the book, whether its placement on Amazon or its release date. Maybe it's just me? I think it came out when it was ready. And I did read that it was a third party, not the publisher, who first placed it on Amazon, hence the difficulty in finding it.

I know we're all accustomed to seeing mysteries in everything because we've been lied to for so long by you know who!

Now, H -- IF his book is ready -- THAT I believe he's conniving to release strategically. But I think the problem there is that it's garbage and that it can't be substantiated, especially if * is masterminding the contents. The ghostwriter is reputable; he must be having fits and ruing the day he ever took it on.

Popular posts from this blog

A Quiet Interlude

 Not much appears to be going on. Living Legends came and went without fanfare ... what's the next event?   Super Bowl - Sunday February 11th?  Oscar's - March 10th?   In the mean time, some things are still rolling along in various starts and stops like Samantha's law suit. Or tax season is about to begin in the US.  The IRS just never goes away.  Nor do bills (utility, cable, mortgage, food, cars, security, landscape people, cleaning people, koi person and so on).  There's always another one.  Elsewhere others just continue to glide forward without a real hint of being disrupted by some news out of California.   That would be the new King and Queen or the Prince/Princess of Wales.   Yes there are health risks which seemed to come out of nowhere.  But.  The difference is that these people are calmly living their lives with minimal drama.  

As Time Passes and We Get Older

 I started thinking about how time passes when reading some of the articles about the birthday.  It was interesting to think about it from the different points of view.  Besides, it kind of fits as a follow up the last post (the whole saga of can the two brothers reunite). So there is the requisite article about how he will be getting all kinds of money willed to him from his great-grandmother.  There were stories about Princess Anne as trustee (and not allowing earliest access to it all).  Whether or not any or all of this is true (there was money for him and/or other kids) has been debated with claims she actually died owing money with the Queen paying the debts to avoid scandal.  Don't know but I seem to remember that royal estates are shrouded from the public so we may not (ever) know. However, strange things like assisting in a book after repeated denials have popped up in legal papers so nothing is ever really predicable.   We are also seein...

The Opening Act of New Adventures in Retail

 I keep thinking things will settle down to the lazy days of spring where the weather is gorgeous and there is a certain sense of peacefulness.  New flowers are coming out. increasing daylight so people can be outside/play and thinking gardening thoughts.  And life is quiet.  Calm. And then something happens like a comet shooting across the sky.  (Out of nowhere it arrives and then leaves almost as quickly.)   An update to a law suit.  Video of the website is released (but doesn't actually promote any specific product which can be purchased from the website).  A delay and then jam is given out (but to whom and possible more importantly - who did not make the list?).  Trophies almost fall (oops).  Information slips out like when the official date of beginning USA residency.  (now, isn't that interesting?) With them, it's always something in play or simmering just below the surface.  The diversity of the endeavors is really ...