This is not Game of Thrones now that Queen Elizabeth has passed.
I've been catching a lot of PBS lately. Most of it was Lucy Worsley, LW Investigates or the three parter on the Boleyn family ("People come and go so quickly here.").
There is an obvious point, especially in the Boleyn family and the Lost Princes, of the intrigue at court, power grabs for the throne/marriage and how people moved closer and farther to the center of highest power of that moment, your ally today but enemy tomorrow. Something innocently said could get your head chopped off after a kangaroo court with witnesses tortured to give the prosecution the "truth". And, the absolute power displayed traipsing about the dim corridors expecting every wish immediately filled without thought to what it meant to the recipient and their life/desires/dreams. Pawns in the hands of family and enemies. Treason was not just planning and doing but even thinking of benefiting from the King's death.
Several centuries later, there is still some jockeying for positions but the main slots were known and inked (not penciled) in long before they are officially filled at the next opening.
But starting in 2011, GOT played out with fans avidly following each plot twist. And now, I don't know, maybe with a real throne vacancy, people are expecting something out of the series to play out? After all, for most people, they haven't really thought about Queen Elizabeth other than her name appeared in the paper/evening news once in a while, dressed up with a crown or with a horse/dog, vague ideas of succession but know that people like King Henry VIII had absolute power.
What we get now is are all these articles filling the time before her funeral. It's nonstop! Royal experts with a camera are found under every tree at Windsor. We have almost a week more of this.
Maybe there is a desperate need (or someone thinks there is a need) to tell the world any and every thing royal which is why the heavy increase (onslaught) of any scrap of possible news, especially if it could have legs or had legs and they need something to keep a story going.
And yet, the funeral plans laid down long ago are being followed. Calmly. Orderly. With dignity. Respect. Understated but yet with full Pomp. Traditional. Comforting in such a time of grief and sorrow.
Just as Queen Elizabeth would have wanted.
Comments
As to The Wife, as far as I can see, she has entirely behaved herself so far. Dressed appropriately, and I haven't seen a smirk yet...but the day's not over...
Yes @Raspberry Ruffle -- just saw discussions on Tumblr about the well-placed candle. Apparently it has been put to good use in broadcasts by the BBC, ITV and SkyNews. Don't know if they each have their own cameras or are using the same feed....
as the coffin was leaving Westminster Abbey.
I remember reading somewhere that she said she could cry on command...
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/19/13/62572391-11227181-image-a-24_1663590842095.jpg
The whole article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11227181/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-sit-second-row-Queens-funeral.html
Not only is it an excellent quote by itself, but it is a zinger non pareil, considering who was in the audience. The Archbishop might have put that in especially for the Harkles--after all, Mrs Twunt dropped him in it with the earnest story about the fake garden wedding. He could have also been addressing Andrew. To my mind, Andrew has minded his Ps and Qs since his disastrous interview last year. There was outrage when he escorted his mother at the Commonwealth Day service but surely Charles would have intervened if it wasn't the Queen's express wish that Andrew do so? Whatever else he's done, he was devoted to his Mum.
Work obligations made viewing the service live impossible. I could've gotten up at 4:30 to be sure I'd be ready to leave by 7:30 after the viewing but I opted for 2 more hours of sleep. Will catch the replay at my lunchtime. As I write this it's just gone 3pm in London so I suppose the Twunts have packed off. On Air Force One--now THERE'S a laugh.
I fear that now the RF has cast them out very publicly, the next VIPs on the list to stalk is the President and Mrs. Biden. Twunt is determined to be Queen of America and move straight into the White House after the Bidens decamp. Koo-Koo kachoo, certifiably insane she is.
I think it was the correct decision to bring them. Yes, it will be the most overwhelming occasion of their young lives so far, but this is something they have to learn to handle, especially George. This will be his entire life in the future, and even if Charlotte only attends Christmas and Commonwealth services in the public eye when she grows up, every time her parents bring her out, it's practice for the future. They are both old enough to understand the purpose of the occasion and I think they would have regretted it in future if they'd missed it. We can't shelter children from all that is sad or scary or stressful; adults in their lives can support them on their journey through these tough things. I think both children are mature enough now to have attended. Just as I think that Viscount Severn, just one year younger than William was when he walked behind his mother's cortege, was an appropriate age to participate in the grandchildren's vigil. He got off lightly compared to what Diana's boys were called to do.
Whatever H says now about that time, the adults were of a mind to not have Harry walk, since 12 is so young. William didn't want to do it either and was coaxed into it by having his granddad and Harry do it too. I think it was more a case of H insisting on him going if William was going, and he's spinning the narrative now that he was 'forced' to do it at the cost of great psychological damage. I admired the bravery, fortitude and composure of both boys on that day. Hazmat has only devolved since he was 12, and that's a tragedy.
I know la pétasse saw the UK as an old, quaint country and is always banging on about feminism but these ladies all spoke at the funeral:
The Reverend Canon Helen Cameron, Moderator, Free Churches Group, the Right Reverend and Right Honourable Same Sarah Mullaly, Bishop of London, the Venerable Tricia Hillas, Canon Steward and Archdeacon of Westminster, Ms Shermara Fletcher, Principal Officer for Pentecostal and Charismatic relations.
In addition, the Right Reverend Bishop Rachel Treweek, Bishop of Gloucester, was interviewed by the BBC.
Stupid, ignorant woman.
She looked terrific (she nails it) but it looked like she had changed inside. It was like there is this steely core and we just never really saw it displayed in full strength before. We might see a flash or two but it seemed in full display from photo moment to photo moment.
Yes, I saw the candle partly obscuring *'s face on television. I alternating between the BBC and ITV until the service when the pictures were the same on both channels. I'd say the service was filmed by the BBC. I managed to find the picture in the DM.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/19/12/62566945-11224577-image-m-73_1663585760251.jpg
I switched between Sky and the BBC, I’d agree it was more than probable it was BBC cameras. As far as I’m aware there isn’t a multitude of different television crew filming royal events inside any royal Abbey or Chapel etc.
The Despicable duo were again second row royals, but unfortunately we couldn’t miss ‘em when the camera’s were on King Charles and The Queen Consort. 😔
My Mum spotted Mole not saluting the cenotaph when all the other royals did. 🤨😠
@abbyh, it would be highly unusual, (I’m almost tempted to say I’ve never known it before, unless it’s into ceremonial gowns etc) for a Royal change clothing during occasions such as this. 😉
saw a pic of the queens corgies and horse waiting to say good bye. gonna cry just swing the pic.
we are on vacation in southern europe. walking through a little medieval tow. i heard bagpipes and realized someone above had their window open lear bing the broadcast.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1671427/queen-corgis-Muick-Sandy-st-georges-chapel-windsor-castle-burial-funeral
I’ll be glad when she’s gone from our shores, she’s an utter disgrace and an insult to all things true and real. 😠😞
All the Queen's women: With grief etched on their faces, how Sophie, Meghan, Kate and Camilla put on a united front outside Westminster Abbey as Her Majesty's coffin was taken away…
https://mol.im/a/11227397
I’m watching the service at Windsor, St. George’s Chapel.
Note: Veterans not in uniform do not salute. They bow their heads. No shame on A nd H. They are following protocol.
I agree a knight hood needs to be given to the camera crew that scouted the angles at the ABbey, and the candle itself should be awarded a special place of honor in the Frog Cott for perpetuity as a gentle reminder to the couple.
picture of Meghan with candle blocking her almost completely. LOL
Going on my Mother’s comment I don’t think Mole bowed his head either, it seemed he did nothing to show respect. As I didn’t see it, I can’t comment either way. 🥴
https://twitter.com/BaronessBruck/status/1571835443250970625
I did not care for the cape dress with the exposed arms on *.
Then, I remembered something and did a little searching…
* wore a blue cape-style dress in Fiji — just after announcing her pregnancy with Archie.
https://www.thecelebritydresses.com/meghan-markle-blue-caped-pregnant-long-dress-royal-tour-in-fiji.html
Did she wear the black habit to the service today to try and fuel speculation that she is pregnant again?
Wasn’t there a blind item on CDAN that she was asking her supposed friends to let slip that she is pregnant again?
Apparently, she has to upstage both the bride and the deceased… unbelievable.
On the whole, the S-es behaved reasonably well as far as I could see, apart from appearing to challenge the Waleses when it came to the recessional and they began to line up behind the King.
Years of watching the Boat Race have shown me how difficult it is to judge who is in front of whom but, even so, the Harkles were so quick to get up from their seats that the Waleses had to act even faster. No sign of a decent pause or standing back to let the Waleses go first.
The big, surreal, surprise for me was seeing the hearse procession approaching Windsor along a country road. It must be two hundred years since last anything like that happened, before the railways. We are so used to seeing such formalities in an urban setting that to find them processing along road in open country that it seemed so strange, yet that is what it must have been like in centuries past, albeit on far worse roads.
No commentator on the BBC pointed out that not only were the troopers lined up in their everyday riding gear outside Wellington Barracks but there were 2 drum horses standing in an archway. They did see the Queen's pony, Emma, and the corgis, brought out to watch the procession.
My guess is that Her Late Majesty would want the Harkles to be given the opportunity to redeem themselves - I also guess that most Nutties would regard that highly unlikely to happen.
and do we know what the extended family is doin post services at the chapel?
Personal note - I cried at the first sight of the pink floral wreath atop her coffin. That was so personal. The symbolism of the removal of the instruments of her reign - the scepter, the orb and the Crown, being removed and placed on the altar.
and the breaking of the rod - I felt gut punched. Well done, Britain. Well done. And era is truly over.
Long life to King Charles III.
Yes, there's a video, from her Toronto days I think, of her boasting about it as her `party trick,'.
She'll probably use this one to play victim about a life saving abortion she'll have to have- I can see her "think pieces" about it now. Ugh.
https://twitter.com/Sunshiney_dayz/status/1571822903036870658?t=U_ejLsZOhQXxNqY9OYkSLA&s=19
I doubt if * noticed the numbers of females of all ranks in the contingents of the Forces?
They were among those pulling the coffin, marching in bearskins in the Guards, playing in the bands and riding in the cavalry; in short, anyone in uniform wearing a chignon was a woman, including officers. There was an interview with a Guards `master of music' who is female, in charge of their music today. The WRAC no longer exists, they have equal standing with the men and do the same jobs. If * ever bothered to watch the RHA firing their salutes in Hyde Park, she'd see them there too, loading and firing the guns. Anti-aircraft guns in WW2 were also `manned' by women.
There was at least one woman singing among the tenors in the choir at Windsor.
Didn’t the Queen Mother travel back to Windsor via a hearse and her possession? Diana, although no longer married into the royal family, was driven back in a hearse all the way to Althorp. 😉
https://www.yahoo.com/news/queen-elizabeth-funeral-key-takeaways-moments-161909736.html
He wasn't in uniform. He did turn his head and bow a little. I didn't notice what Andrew and Peter did.
Do we know who (of the family) is invited for the final interment in the evening in the crypt?
and do we know what the extended family is doing post services at the chapel?
I didn't think there was a final interment. Wasn't Prince Phillip lowered directly into the crypt?
I read somewhere there was going to be a family dinner after the committal.
I did notice in some of the papers that Sophie shot mega daggers at the thing called markle.
I would so love for Sophie to open her mouth and say it as it is.
I tuned in briefly to one hymn before the Archbishop's sermon (God forgive me but I cannot stand the man's peevish old woman voice)
____________
I can’t stand it either. The Dean of Windsor stood out to me as the best orator of the day—and he seemed the most deeply and genuinely affected by the Queen’s death. By comparison Welby is a stale wet noodle.
@HumorMe
The symbolism of the removal of the instruments of her reign - the scepter, the orb and the Crown, being removed and placed on the altar and the breaking of the rod - I felt gut punched. Well done, Britain.
_____________
The removal of the instruments, breaking of the rod, the lowering of the coffin in to the vault and the bagpiper’s lament were all gutting. The sight of the Queen’s horse Emma and the Corgis saying goodbye was also very moving.
I didn’t notice * being blanked by the candle, but in the still photo she looks like the Wicked Witch of the West.
Unfortunately Harry was front and center and very hard to miss during the two processions on foot.
I watched the BBC coverage, which ended very abruptly after Charles and Camilla drove up to the Castle after the service. They cut immediately to an episode of Star Trek!! Talk about going from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Nancy gotta bee the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral. Smh
BikerGirl, this is HILARIOUS! May I nominate you for @Hikari's latte of the day?
We have often remarked here on Charles's extremely high color usually but all this week, including today, he's looked very pale. Definitely looks thinner in the face in addition to the pallor. Everyone in the RF has coped so amazingly well, and it's been such a long 10 days of ceremony, I wondered whether today might not seem nearly anticlimactic, or at least easier to prepare for after this long week-plus of ceremonial grief and saying goodbye to Grannie/Mummy/Her Majesty. Still, the enormity of that event has to hit everyone like a tsunami wave. I do hope after the official goodbyes are concluded, the new King will get some down time without too many engagements other than the red boxes. Charles has done everything humanly possible to send off his mother with the deepest respect and decorum. Now he's got to guard his own health and strength because he must be absolutely depleted after the demands of these last days.
The next time we go through this mourning pageant it will be for Charles, and that has to have crossed his mind.
After decades as a younger man of often looking very awkward, Charles has matured into his face and now is quite regal. I wish him a reign of many years he can be proud of; he's apprenticed long enough.
May God bless her soul and welcome her into His heavenly kingdom.
May God bless her soul and welcome her into His heavenly kingdom.
My first thought was Batman.
Well, she's already done Poison Ivy at the Commonwealth Day service in 2020. Just think, if Covid had hit just a bit earlier we might have been spared that ghastly outfit.
Shall we take bets on whether her next 'look' will stick with the DC universe or will she switch over to Marvel? I guess we've had ample examples of her doing Scarlet Witch already.
*'s super villain identity has got to be Bane.
Today was a truly historic and most fitting tribute to an exceptional monarch who lived and reigned by the precepts of her Christian faith. She will be so missed and I pray that Charles, Anne and the rest of the family will now be allowed time to rest and grieve for her in private.
Thanks for clearing the bow bit up. I didn’t see it, so I had no idea if he acknowledged it. Good to know he’s not a complete oaf!🥴
https://twitter.com/Sunshiney_dayz/status/1571822903036870658?t=U_ejLsZOhQXxNqY9OYkSLA&s=19
I thought that Harry kept deviating from his prescribed position during the procession but I may have read it wrongly.
@RR - I can't remember what happened with the QM after her London funeral service. I do recall being overwhelmed by the Irish Guards, Scots Guards & Gurkhas piping Oft in the Stilly Night'
So I looked it up -here's a video that looks as if it was recorded off screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6nkFmu40Fk
It answers yr question, they drove to Windsor, in a motorcade.. With Diana,IIRC, the crowds had thinned out by the time they reached the M1, when the driver put his foot down and they proceeded briskly to Althorp.
I was appalled to see the crowd chucking flowers at Diana's gun carriage but of course they hadn't a clue about horses. Mercifully, RHA horses are pretty calm - the sort often described as bomb proof tho' the `pensioner' I was riding once was startled by a noisy quad bike just the other side of the hedge.
I hate the applauding but I suppose that's because I was taught to stop and keep silent as a cortege passed by. To me. it seems the crowd is pleased the deceased has gone.
The third, private, ceremony is the burial. The above article is about St George's Chapel where her and Phillip were buried today.
The third, private, ceremony is the burial. The above article is about St George's Chapel where her and Phillip were buried today.
The family is likely furious and fed up with la connasse and 6/5 whining about EVERYTHING! They are responsible for taking the focus off the Queen several times, which is unforgivable. I commend King George and the courtiers for their swift responses to shut them down. It will be interesting to hear the lies they will spin after returning “overseas.”
Finally, I do hope that KCIII bestows the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh titles on the Wessexes. Sophie and Edward are strong, stable and wonderful. They deserve a big reward.
Godspeed Elizabeth, the Great.
"It's no surprise that Queen Elizabeth II's passing is making major changes to the dynamics within the royal family. It's clear, though, that we've only just scratched the surface of what is sure to transpire between the remaining royals, as Meghan Markle has reportedly made an interesting request of King Charles III (via Express). According to a "very good source," Meghan sent a formal letter to the new king requesting that the two of them sit down for a one-on-one meeting before the Duke and Duchess of Sussex return to their home in California. While there's no way of knowing what Meghan intends to discuss in her meeting with King Charles III or whether he will accept the invitation, it certainly begs the question of whether Meghan and Harry intend to make some changes to their relationship with the other royals.
On his YouTube channel, expert on the royal family, Neil Sean, said, "What's interesting here is, according to that good source, this was made in a formal letter. This is how you write to the king through his equity and of course that's passed on, etc." He went on to say, "It would be an opportunity to clear the air, pull the rights from wrongs and explain some of the rationale behind what they've been doing over the last two years." Time will tell what's to come of the meeting, but one can only hope that this major ending within the British monarchy will inspire some new beginnings."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/meghan-markle-reportedly-has-a-request-for-king-charles-before-she-leaves-the-uk/ar-AA120lYa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=47a861760f334969ce91e0a6e0c303a8
Hmmmmmmm.....
I hope Charles doesn't meet with her. She'll be wired with a camera and sound. Or, she'll leave the meeting screaming and crying with her hair disheveled, and her dress ripped claiming Charles tried to rape her.
Page Six reporting that Twit kept his lips tightly closed when the congregation sang, "God Save the King."
Twit having a silent public tantrum for all the world to see. He really is three years old socially/emotionally.
I thought that Harry kept deviating from his prescribed position during the procession but I may have read it wrongly.
The only way that the Sussexes' standing there, waiting for the Waleses to exit their pew, makes sense is if the second row of royals was supposed to exit from the far side of the pew, walk past where the King and Queen sat, so as to join the procession in the same order that they entered. But for both Sussexes to have been standing there waiting for the Waleses, Harry must have really raced from his seat as soon as the Queen's children left.
That makes me very nervous. If I'm right about the way they were supposed to exit from the church, I wonder how long it took for the Yorks to catch up with Harry.
In several of the pictures, Liar is standing very close to the Waleses, like she always used to do with Catherine. That's the thing with sociopaths: they're absolutely shameless. She should have been keeping her distance from them given everything she's done behind their backs.
Let us hope Sir Edward Young shoots that gambit down. We know this is her plant because otherwise the Palace would not share who the King’s correspondents are. If Charles does not see her, watch for the heartless racist narrative again. She wants to do some more blackmailing methinks. Probably trying for the titles again. Charles should call her bluff—invite her over for tea and say he will grant P&P if he gets to Skype with his grandkids and their nanny Right Now. If they are napping, that’s OK— he just wants to see them. If she refuses then pack that trash back off to Montesh*tshow.
Do we know when she & H are leaving these shores? Tomorrow morning wouldn't be too soon.
"Mr Sean added: "And what's interesting here is according to that good source, this was made in a formal letter. This is how you write to the King through his equity and of course that's passed on, etc.
"Now, you know, you have to admire Meghan's self-belief, whatever you think."
Detailing the content of the letter, he said: "It would be an oportunity to clear the air, pull the rights from wrongs and explain some of the rationale behind what they've been doing over the last two years."
However, Neil Sean insisted it remains unclear whether this missive will be enough to make amends with the Royal Family.
He said: "Truthfully, we have no idea if this is going to go forward."
I was wondering it could be a start to revisiting the terms of the agreement and lifting some of the ones viewed as more onerous.
Is this true?
Good point re ads. I only watched the BBC and ITV for the funeral and they were no ads on ITV - obviously inappropriate. We watched BBC4 tonight so I can't say.
If M is out of funds, I hope her bit army disbands soon. She is annoying and irrelevant.
I am so tired of the coverage of PH and PA military uniforms that I don't care if they are nude. Their medals and braids seem excessive when compared to "real" working class soldiers earned medals. Just my opinion, I'll leave protocol to the experts.
The Corgis and pony brought me to tears. I miss my beloved pets across the rainbow bridge. Pets share so much love during their short lives.
I wonder how much tight wallet H dug into his inheritance to fund M. What M wants M gets as long as someone else is paying. Other than the engagement ring, H hasn't gifted jewelry or other finery. M seems to acquire jewelry via yachting and merching. Wallis had much better bling.
I am pleasantly surprised with King Charles welcome. I wasn't expecting such a warm response.
The post morning period will be interesting. Change is afoot.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1571965099618836489
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/741530231/hrh-sweatshirt-in-navy-blue-a-collection?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=hrh+collection&ref=sc_gallery-1-1&plkey=cd5dc8ccb9b07682cfb343e1a5a1f36fed17cc8c%3A741530231&bes=1
not sure if it's got any connection to the twat
"An Australian Liberal senator has unleashed a brutal attack on Meghan Markle and Prince Harry, saying she's sick of the pair and labelling them 'awful, revolting people.'
Hollie Hughes didn't hold back as she weighed in on ongoing tensions between the royals following the death of Queen Elizabeth II 10 days ago, aged 96.
As billions around the world prepare for the Queen's funeral within hours, all eyes will be on the royals after it was revealed Prince Harry and Meghan were 'uninvited' to a state reception for world leaders held at Buckingham Palace on Sunday.
The couple were reportedly 'baffled' by the decision to exclude the pair from the event only for 'working royals.
But Sky News host Chris Smith believes Harry and Meghan shouldn't be baffled as they had put themselves in that situation, prompting Senator Hughes to launch into an extraordinary tirade.
She blamed Meghan for the couple's estrangement from the royal family and believes Prince Harry will live to regret it one day.
I think he's made an awful error and I think she's had a terrible influence over him,' she said on Monday afternoon.
'She's just a horrible human.
'It's absolutely disgraceful.
'I don't know what's happening with the book he done.
'Her podcasts apparently they're going through them now trying to take out parts where she said not particularly kind things about the Queen.
'They're awful, revolting, revolting people and I absolutely think they shouldn't be invited to this and I hope they're not invited to a lot of other things.'
Senator Hughes believes Prince Harry will one day regret the 'awful mistake' of marrying Meghan Markle and cutting off ties with the crown.
sick of both of them,' Senator Hughes said.
'I sort of long for the day I hope Harry rolls over and takes one look and thinks 'what have I done' and comes to his senses and moves back across the pond.'
Senator Hughes is surprised at the amount of invites Duke and Duchess of Sussex have got to official events in the wake of the Queen's death.
'They wanted a private life, they no longer wanted to be part of the royal family in the sense they were,' she said.
'They've moved themselves across to the US and taken every opportunity they can to take a swipe at the Queen but also the entire monarch and the royal family and the role it plays.'
They wanted a lower profile, they didn't want this sort of life for their children. They seem upset their children might not get the HRH, which is a little bit strange to me.'
Commentator Caroline di Russo agreed.
When they decided they didn't want to be senior royals, they wanted their privacy and they wanted their independence, well there are consequences,' she said. We've been hearing this sniping of them not getting exactly what they want, well you didn't want the duty, you didn't want the responsibility, well you don't get the other stuff that comes with it.'
Senator Hughes is no stranger to controversy"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11226473/Queens-funeral-Hollie-Hughes-labels-Meghan-Markle-horrible-human-bad-influence-Harry.html
Meeting - this bothers me more and more.
I would also be concerned about there being no one else present. Just too many issues where trust has been broken historically to allow the new king (who has so much else on his mind about running the UK, the boxes, his grief) to risk being alone with her.
Just thinking historically - how many lies alone from that interview before we get to the podcast claims? and allow no one else to verify he did or did not say or do what she is now claiming - counting on never complain, never explain and that defending yourself is not easy when it is more of a when did you stop beating your wife question posed by the press?
Why would suddenly the truth be spoken? And, how would anyone really know it was the real truth? Or any promises made would be kept?
Just why, oh why, is her husband not supposed to be there? That's a fine question given that he hasn't really seen his son much this time around.
One of the tip offs about shady deals is the pressure to make a decision, respond immediately or you might miss some great opportunity. Plays on emotions.
This just has a bad feel.
... but ... what if the palace had control of the location (not like she could say to meet her at Starbucks), meaning the room? Cameras. Tape recorders. Multiples. I only might feel safer for him (not really though). I keep thinking of the fable of being asked to carry the snake across the river where the kind hearted doesn't want to but does this and gets bitten.
First, it will be very difficult for the Sixes to stay in the UK for another week without everyone really starting to wonder about the kids.
Second, as soon as the official mourning is over, the new CoS should be announced, cutting the non-working Royals. Then, if the Deep Sixes are there, KCIII and the aides might have to bite the bullet and have a "reunion." But no private meeting.
Ever.
@BaronessBruck
< The Queen's staff have told me how, in the early days of Harry's exile in America, the Queen would excitedly take his phone calls. Over time this changed & she later became perplexed by Harry's complaints. >
https://twitter.com/BaronessBruck/status/1572001025367871488
Charles is absolutely gutted by the loss of his dear Ma ma. I want him and the rest of the RF to have time to feast, grieve, and heal from their staggering loss.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19392634/queen-elizabeth-funeral-death-news-king-charles-iii/
Sounds like the private meeting with KCIII was denied ;)
The Sun was informing... "Prince Harry and Meghan ‘to return to US ASAP’ after final farewell to Queen - They have already departed Frogmore Cottage, just moments after the funeral for The Queen concluded with her being laid to rest" Other sources claim that KCIII will take FC (Frogmore Cottage) from them. I believe that without seeing H. KCIII's memoir will not give in. He is willing to save the reputation of Camila, the Queen Consort. But (and again but) I'm waiting...
...
Again, Again - Looks like BP is no longer silent.
Buckingham Palace Insists Harry and Meghan’s Second Row Funeral Seats Were No Snub.
"There was “no snub” aimed at Prince Harry at Queen Elizabeth’s funeral and he was seated in the second row because of his age, a source at Buckingham Palace told The Daily Beast Monday evening.
The source sought to quell speculation that Harry and wife Meghan Markle had been seated in the second row as a snub following their estrangement from the family, telling The Daily Beast: “The order was approximately age order but trying not to split families up.” (Harry and Meghan were seated on the front row at the second public funeral service of the day at St George’s Chapel, Windsor.)
The palace suggested that, apart from Prince William (40) who is now first in line to the throne, other grandchildren of the monarch had been seated in age order, with Peter (44) and Zara (41) being put in the front row ahead of second-row occupants Harry (38), Beatrice (34), and Eugenie (32)"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/buckingham-palace-insists-harry-and-meghans-second-row-funeral-seats-were-no-snub
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/ximcrf/ill_just_leave_this_here/
-----
Yes!!!
She's ready now. It wasn't her time before. Now it is. The switch flipped to on.
Also, she's kicking ass and taking names.
You absolutely cannot trust her not to accuse him of assaulting her later.
Again, Again - Looks like BP is no longer silent.
Buckingham Palace Insists Harry and Meghan’s Second Row Funeral Seats Were No Snub.
I wonder how much * relied on "Never complain, never explain" to pull off her stunts . . . and how handicapped she is now that BP is at least explaining. (If this reflects King Charles's leadership style now that he holds the reins, she is toast.)
I agree with you. If BP continues to respond, this new stance could scare this duo away. And if popular support for KCIII continues, she will send him letters. And Harry will find the father he lost in The Cut.
It was like there is this steely core and we just never really saw it displayed in full strength before
@Mel
She's ready now. It wasn't her time before. Now it is. The switch flipped to on.
I think she has been ready to be "launched" for quite a while, but just needed the go signal. We saw a hint of her true star power at the James Bond premiere and the truly unforgettable gold dress. It was muted a bit at Prince Philip's funeral, for obvious reasons, but the photograph of her in a mask with tear-filled eyes was still very haunting. And now that she is the Princess of Wales, she looks even more beautiful than she ever has.
Of course, it's not just about physical beauty, but what radiates from within. Strength. Class. Determination. Loyalty. And maybe something a little more . . .
There was an astrologer who pointed out that Catherine shares the same sun sign and moon sign as the country Great Britain itself -- so that by marrying her, the future King William married Great Britain. The present feels warm and cozy with King Charles, and no one seems in any rush for the new Carolingian age to end . . . but the future is also already looking solid and strong.
Something off the comments on CDAN. Read the entire article.
A striking comparison of the bonds between KC and the Princess Royal AND George and Charlotte. Striking images.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xirg6l/lifes_beautiful_parallels_an_institution_which_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Anyone think she rubbed onion juice into the tips of her gloves?
Lipstick Alley had a picture that was blown up that looks like she put highlighter under her eye, then wiped it off for her camera shot. It even shows a dirty white spot on her gloves.
I can't find the gloved pics (am up suffering from hives AGAIN) BUT there is a pic on this page that looks like a dot of highlighter placed strategically under an eye. https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/meghan-markle-unpopular-opinions-thread-pt-9.4991454/page-632 at comment 25,265
they aren’t gonna meet with charles. he has got to be drained by the funeral and related activities. if we are hearing about any of it it’s because they aren’t getting any attention and are pressuring for a meeting or threatening more pr. or it’s the clean up narrative as to why they were snubbed. victimhood brand what a winning thing 😉. with the public snubbing what is netflix thinking now?
I agree about the applauding, it first happened at Diana’s funeral and continued since. It does come across as rather rude, but I guess the crowd found it difficult to show appreciation. I think the flower throwing is just dangerous overall, especially if thrown at a windscreen. 🫤
It does appear that BP and fighting back at the constant victimhood spin of the Despicable pair, and rightly so, though they need to careful it doesn’t turn into a back-and-forth thing.
I thought Catherine looked extremely elegant. ❤️There’s a quiet steeliness to her. 😃Maggot’s fans/bots kept chanting she didn’t need big jewellery (to look good). No, she loves cheap looking tat that she can wear to monetise. 🤨🙄
I now wonder what type of Monarchy we’ll have. I only hope Maggot and Mole are kept well and truly in check, I trust William to help guide his Father (if he needs it). 🫤
Surreal
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/quarter-million-people-filed-past-070359243.html
Anyone think she rubbed onion juice into the tips of her gloves?
They were speculating on the St. Meghan Markle page of Reddit that she used some kind of menthol product like Vick's Vapor Rub that actors are known to use to induce tears.
Before she met the hapless one, she went on camera boasting how she can manufacture tears in seconds, and she can choose which eye it will be. She then proceeds to demonstrate.
Normal people usually put their head down when tears start, even slightly, especially in such a public setting that is being filmed. Her head went up.
Normal people reach for a tissue or handkerchief (as Sophie did for Edward) when they get tearful. Most telling for me is that when tears well up, your nose gets snotty and you get sniffy, which is why the tissue/handkerchief is needed.
There is no indication of grief in her face at all, other than the one tear. Body language experts would point that out. A lot of Botox would stop the grief muscle in the forehead from working, I suppose. (I would need to look at the pictures again to see if she shows that tremendous stress in her neck as she does when she gets near members of the royal family.)
It was a performative moment: one tear manufactured from one eye; head lifts, and gloved hand goes up to wipe away the tear with a gloved finger.
Of course, media across the world are showcasing this bizarre and crazy behaviour of hers and calling it grief... a real The Emperor Has New Clothes moment!
TBLG has made a video of this crying display, which I have not watched yet. Has anyone else watched, and come across any pearls of wisdom?
I think she is going to cause a whole lot more trouble. I have been astonished about how some major American media outlets not only ignore her lies but think the BRF and British people are all too blame and are wicked. Maybe it is a different value system, but her appalling behaviour is either ignored or seen as a virtue.
Imagine the following: a major American corporation hires someone famous to promote their brand (famous because of family connections and not because of talent, abilities or achievements). The corporation spends many millions on this person (providing housing, security, designer outfits, jewellery, guaranteed media coverage, travel, free holidays, fully staffed and funded office ...). The person then runs off with the goods and trashes the corporation in interviews (and also makes veiled threats), but expects to turn up for major corporate events and take centre stage (plus get lucrative deals based on a position in the corporation that the person no longer has). Perhaps if someone explains this to Americans in corporate terms people will understand. (I do believe there are many Americans who do spend a life in genuine service but they are not famous nor admired in the same way that billionaires and people in power are.)
My suggestion, Frog Cott to pick up their luggage, then on to Heathrow!
Perhaps she wasn't going to risk H being detained.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/meghan-markle-outfit-queen-funeral-cape-160858957.html
It seems that latest monstrosity is another sinister Stella McCartney. As for the gloves, they look like what I'd choose to clear out the U-bends at the bottom of rainwater downpipes, clogged with rotting leaves and gull crap.
It's a very wise decision, decamping to Balmoral to be as far from * as possible in a place of quiet and healing.
May they return refreshed in body and spirit.
My guess, FWIW, is that the Coronation won't be too far away , perhaps 9 months, give or take a few weeks. George VI's death was a such shock, I doubt if anybody was prepared for it and there was so much to be done. Presumably there are already outline plans for CIII's `hallowing' as the Anglo-Saxons would have said.
The entire House of Lords individually swore allegiance In the 1953 ceremony - I'm wondering about the status of Life Peers here. Traditionally, the Monarch addressed them as `Cousins' and although the very first were French/Norman henchmen of the Conqueror many, over the centuries, married `royalty-adjacent' spouses so that most had family-ties with the monarch.
As I see it, the advantage of the old system of a hereditary peerage was that it was `one out, one in' ie the numbers were kept almost constant by death. Now Life Peers seem to be as thick as fleas on a dog, there are too many even for them all to get in the Chamber at once. Did the Queen consider all them as cousins? Some of them are pretty rum coves.
CIII could at least cut out the Life Peers from the ceremony - no way their ancestors wouldn't have been in a position to provide knights to fight for the king.
Then again, will the Scottish Government keep its pledge to lend us the Stone of Scone (pronounced `Scoon') aka the Coronation Stone? Or will they insist the King goes to Edinburgh to be crowned King of Scots? I don't know if Charles I was (if he was, it didn't do him much good when the threw himself on Scottish mercy - he was handed over to Parliament) but Charles II certainly didn't bother. No monarch since has had a 2nd coronation and Grandpapa James I & VI didn't honour his promise to return to visit Scotland regularly.
It seems that latest monstrosity is another sinister Stella McCartney. As for the gloves, they look like what I'd choose to clear out the U-bends at the bottom of rainwater downpipes, clogged with rotting leaves and gull crap.
Stella McCartney, is it? It looks like Elvira for the Halloween Store to me.
* can't resist taking every public occasion as a costume/fancy dress opportunity, and I mean, fancy dress in the British sense of 'costume party'. When Americans hear 'fancy dress', they immediately think: tuxedos and gowns. I'm sure more than one American expat has turned up in 'fancy dress' for a party that was the wrong kind. Never mind, dahling, just pretend you're Princess Margaret.
Margaret had an avante garde fashion style too, but she knew how to wear clothes despite being tiny. Was she only 5 feet tall? Margaret had her scandalous moments but she never would have shown bare arms encased in dominatrix gloves in church. Harry's wife was the only person present to be showing skin. Joan Crawford might have fancied that cape and hat; what the ensemble immediately brought to mind for me was Beauxbatons from the Goblet of Fire. Whether intentional or not, * dresses like a witch at every chance she gets.
I'm really saddened and disgusted that so much of Her Majesty's send-off week was marred by petty antics from the juvenile delinquents. Australian commentators attributed Harry's failure to move his lips at all during "God Save the King" at St. George's to being overcome with emotion and struggling to maintain the stiff upper lip.
I call bollocks on that. Hazmat sat directly behind his father, staring poison daggers at Charles's head and blatantly REFUSED to open his mouth for the national anthem. A toddler pitching a strop, refusing to honor his father the new King. Yeah, that's going to be an effective strategy. He's beyond pissed that Dad is planning to remove him from Councillor of State, and probably, the abode attached to that honor. I think Charles's inaugural address sent a stark message, really . . I'm sending my love to you in your life OVERSEAS because that is all you are getting henceforward. You have no official part of Us any longer. You're my son, but there is no place for you in the Kingdom and the Firm you have rejected. This is not vindictiveness but rather resignation, to my thinking. He is giving Harry what Harry said he wanted and there will be no do-overs. If he wavers, hopefully Camilla and William will strengthen his resolve. Charles is an historian, and he's got to frame this in historical terms--the younger son of the King has mounted a relentless armed rebellion against the Crown for over two years. His weapons are not swords and muskets but bots, rabid stans and paid PR hatchet guys. It's an invisible army but it's wreaking its havoc. Charles needs to ask himself--if H were leading a physical army against me, threatening to depose my heir and tear down my kingdom, could I let him back into court with smiles and pats on the head? Just to let him close enough to stick a knife in me? His wife has already poisoned the chalice of public opinion against me and now my own kid is preparing to release a treasonous screed in which he savages my Queen and labels me a conspirator in having his mother murdered.
Under an earlier Charles, these would have been capital offenses.
I hope the Harkle insurrection will be quashed soon but it has legs yet. Prayers for wisdom and dispassion and stamina to those dealing with these pernicious traitors.
so wasn’t able to watch the whole thing but what was the kerfuffle at st george chapel where the hapless two didn’t go to their seats right away and the Wales had to wait for them to sit down. did they think they would sit at the edge across from charles.
hope the wales are having ice cream pizza and pajama day today. i think they all need it. maybe the parents are binge watching Suits making fun of the worlds greatest actress
The car they left in, is her Wedding Car, Wallis Simpsons Funeral Car.
One that surprised me is the look The Duchess of Gloucester gave PH at the Abbey and also when they were standing at Welling Arch, watching the transfer,. Absolute distain, did not look at MM.
Also in the first procession, if looks could kill PH would have dropped dead, the look from the King's equerry. So have to assume that PH had a tantrum or whatever before they even started. Richard The Duke of Gloucester was in the procession so he probably heard, saw what went on and told his wife when they drove to Wellington Arch.
Also the hand holding at a State Funeral.
The UK are suggesting knighting the candle for services to the Monarch!
Hikari - Well said!
-------
The photographers who managed to cut * out with the candle and other careful framing each deserve an MRVO apiece.
-------
The cape business - not cosplaying Mary Mother of All Mercies is she? Extending her cloak to shelter tiny specimens of humanity?
See https://www.davaocatholicherald.com/2016/04/mary-and-mercy/
and
http://tina-beattie.blogspot.com/2012/09/mary-and-church-today.html
I saw The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester behind the pair at Wellington Arch, I didn’t recognise the Duchess at first because she had glasses on. I recorded the whole thing, so I’ll go back and look at their distain at Maggot.
I’m waiting for Lady C’s latest video to be released today. 🥴
-----
"Meghan Markle is claimed to have requested a “one-to-one audience” with the new King before returning to California after the Queen’s funeral. Neil Sean, a royal broadcaster, described the move as a “very brave” one on the Duchess of Sussex’s behalf, and suggested it showed her to be the natural “leader” of her relationship with Prince Harry.
...
Speaking on his personal YouTube channel on Sunday, the day before the funeral, Mr Sean said a “very good source” had revealed the letter’s existence to him and some of the details within it.
The source told him that the request had been made in a “formal” letter that had been passed to the King’s equerry – a member of the royal household who personally attends to family members.
Mr Sean claimed: “Allegedly, she’ll now like before they return back to California to have a one-to-one audience with King Charles III.
“That’s right – Meghan one-to-one with King Charles III. You heard correct.”
The correspondent, who has appeared on Fox News recently, claimed to have insight into some of the contents of the letter.
He told his audience: “She feels It would be an opportunity to clear the air, pull the rights from wrongs and explain some of the rationale behind what they've been doing over the last two years.”
Mr Sean added: “Truthfully, we have no idea if this is going to go forward [to the King].
“But I think it’s a very brave move from Meghan herself because, basically what she’s saying is, ‘Look, I’m the leader in this relationship; I’m open to that. Perhaps we can explain what’s been going on and why we did it, and give both sides.’”
----
How can Neil Sean know not only that she wrote the letter and that she gave it to an equerry to give to Charles (was this by hand, by post, or courier?), but also what the contents of the letter are. Even if he has a friend inside the Palace, how would he know the contents of this supposed letter?
Well, if the duo want to see the King, they will have to go to Scotland!
It would not surprise me if they start harassing the King as they did with the Queen. Putting out false stories would be part of the harassment.
"Emma, a black pony, was spotted on the side of the road as the Queen's body arrived at Windsor Castle yesterday, accompanied by Terry Pendry, who has held his position in the Queen's household for the past 25 years.
Laid across the pony's saddle was one of the Queen's floral headscarves, an accessory in which the late monarch was often pictured when riding, travelling or watching the races.
Meanwhile fans also noticed the moment the pony appeared to stamp her feet in a 'curtsey' to the Queen, with one writing: 'Did the Queen's pony Emma just courtesy as the Queen passed by?!'[There is apicture proving this]
In the touching moment yesterday, the horse appeared to lift and stomp her feet in what some royal fans looked to be a 'curtsey' to the Queen as her body went past. Speaking in 2020, the Royal groom said Emma 'has been a wonderful servant to Her Majesty and is still going strong at the age of 24'.
[Here are some excerpts of the detailed disscusion on the Queen's love of horses]
In 2020, Vanity Fair reported that the Queen, then 94, was 'riding everyday' around Windsor Castle while isolating with the late Prince Philip during the Coronavirus crisis.
She also personally named the horses who draw her carriages, such as Cleveland Bays and Windsor Greys, who are used for official engagements such as audiences, royal processions and the state opening of Parliament.
Veteran broadcaster Brough Scott, 76, told how the Queen would delight in galloping around the racecourse before the start of the festival, wearing nothing but a silk headscarf for protection. Speaking to Katie Nicholl for Vanity Fair, Scott admitted officials were probably uneasy about the jaunts but added 'it’s the Queen’s course, so she can do what she wants'.
The Queen's contribution to racing and breeding derives from a lifelong commitment. Her love of horses and their welfare comes with a deep understanding of what is required to breed, rear, train and ride a thoroughbred.
Her famous purple, gold braid and scarlet colours have recorded more than 1,800 winners since her first victory with Monaveen at Fontwell Park in 1949.
In 2020, the Monarch's head groom Terry Pendry told Horse and Hound she was a 'fountain of knowledge in all things equine, you might say a living encyclopaedia.'
She bred and owned the winner of every British Classic - 2000 Guineas, 1000 Guineas, The Oaks and the St Leger - apart from The Derby, but is hoping for a win at Epsom to mark her Platinum Jubilee next year.
The Queen said: 'My philosophy about racing is simple. I enjoy breeding a horse that is faster than other people's. And to me, that is a gamble from a long way back.'
She was also a keen horse racing fan and often delighted with her very candid reactions when cheering on her horses, lifting her fist in the air or gleefully celebrating.
In 2019, it was revealed the Queen had won £7.7million from her love of horse racing after winning more than 500 races over 31 years.
Her Majesty won 534 races from 3,205 runs over her career as a racehorse owner, across both the flat and jump races in the UK and Ireland, new research reveals.
The most profitable year came in 2016, a record year in terms of winnings, with her horses earning £560,274 across the flat and jump seasons dating back to 1988, when records began, with Carlton House her top-earning horse across this period with £772,815 in winnings.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11230105/Touching-moment-Queens-groom-laid-headscarf-favourite-horse.html
The will. They are hoping that the Queen left them a chunk of money or some property. It is highly unlikely that she did. Items stay in the Royal Collection where royals in good standing with the monarch can borrow from, as Catherine and others have done with major pieces of jewellery (and the Wales' have done in furnishing and decorating their homes). Property remains in the hands of the monarch, as does the fortune.
They want to have a personal meeting with Charles because he is now head of the Firm.
Yep, trying to find a private jet to borrow for the return home is a reason, as is consulting lawyers about the ongoing court cases re. security and a possible new one re. Counsellors of State.
Reasons to go home ASAP:
The children.
The offers for interviews that must be piling up.
Her podcast series ... she is supposed to be promoting it.
His Netflix documentary on the Invictus Games (what happened to that?).
His memoirs ... cynically speaking, this is the ideal environment for the book as interest on royals is at a peak.
My guess, FWIW, is that the Coronation won't be too far away , perhaps 9 months,
I heard one of the British royal experts not named Omid Scobie say she thought the coronation would be next year.
My guess is that the national tourism branch of the government might want to schedule such a grand affair that hasn’t happened since the early 50s when Elizabeth had her coronation to take place sometime during the summer of 2023 to allow for nice summer weather and to encourage tourism.
They can encourage people to visit the UK AND participate in festivities and special events surrounding the coronation of KC III. They could also do the official investiture ceremony to make William POW during the summer.
Most people would wait to adopt a dog until they knew they were going to be around for a while.
Charles is an historian, and he's got to frame this in historical terms--the younger son of the King has mounted a relentless armed rebellion against the Crown for over two years. His weapons are not swords and muskets but bots, rabid stans and paid PR hatchet guys. It's an invisible army but it's wreaking its havoc. Charles needs to ask himself--if H were leading a physical army against me, threatening to depose my heir and tear down my kingdom, could I let him back into court with smiles and pats on the head.
This!!!!! This brilliant statement should be sent or said to King Charles. Bravo, Hikari
Just when we thought it was safe to go back in the water...the sharks are still circling.
I wonder how much of a nuisance they'll make of themselves while they're waiting - or are they squatting at Frog Cott defying the `landlord' to send in the bailiffs? I'm certain the nasty RF knows how to `winkle' them out - it's been done with other family members who are reluctant to move... even respected ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-exrtcCKXxQ
and what's with the pale arms?
Inside Meghan Markle’s royal flop
The Duke and Duchess are being frozen out of Hollywood, one red-carpet event at a time
September 19, 2022 | 10:11 pm
Written by: Kara Kennedy
What does it mean to be an A-list Hollywood power couple? Celebrity, yes, but also respect. Look at George and Amal Clooney, a high-powered heartthrob and his equally high-powered human-rights-lawyer wife. Or look at Beyoncé and Jay-Z, hip-hop royalty and dedicated philanthropists. You and your partner can buy a mansion in the right zip code, hang out with the right people and say the right things at the right charity events, but that doesn’t make you a Hollywood power couple. Modern-day stardom is about more than name recognition. It takes charisma, dedication and charm. For all their striving, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle just don’t have it. Britain has realized this — and Hollywood is starting to realize it too.
Every streaming-service deal has invited quiet sniggers, every ill-judged interview and profile-raising event now brings with it a mixture of pity and irritation. These corporations are learning that they are getting little bang for their buck. Over the last few months there have been whispers of Spotify growing more frustrated with Duchess Dolittle after the $25 million deal that went public in December 2020 only yielded one thirty-three-minute Christmas episode. It seems like a stern word may have worked, as we recently saw the much-awaited launch of Meghan’s new podcast Archetypes. Meghan calls the podcast a place “where we investigate, dissect and subvert the labels that try to hold women back”; her first special guest was the notably downtrodden Serena Williams. Listeners were offered little more than the Meghan show, with the Duchess managing to talk for eleven minutes straight before her guest got a word in edgeways.
Next we were delivered a 6,500-word interview in New York magazine, which covers the Duchess’s views on the monarchy, the British press and racism, in case — somehow — you didn’t know them already. In the article, Meghan claimed she is still viewed as a “real-life princess” and told assorted lies about the British press. Those were quickly debunked: when Meghan claimed that in the UK Archie would be subjected to “a press pen of forty people snapping pictures” on the school run, royal reporters quickly called her claim complete tosh, adding that her sister-in-law, the Duchess of Cambridge, has happily been doing the school run for years without any problem. She also added that she and Harry were like “salt and pepper,” saying “you never move one without the other.” Blink twice if you need help, Harry. The interview didn’t seem to get the reception they presumably hoped for, with even staunch Sussex fans put off by it.
When the Duke and Duchess failed this year to snag an invite to the Oscars or the Beckham wedding, it was clear that they are slowly being frozen out of Hollywood, one red-carpet event at a time. Last year, the couple didn’t make the cut for Barack Obama’s 60th birthday celebration, attended by Tom Hanks, Beyoncé and Jay-Z and the Clooneys. Angela Levin, Prince Harry’s biographer, suspects that the Obamas are wary of Meghan’s supposed desire to run for the presidency and worried about upsetting the British royals.
One LA source told me that “the main reason for them being excluded is that organizers know that all media attention would be on them and take away from the event or people there to celebrate.” They also claimed that one A-lister, known for lavish parties, left the pair off a guestlist because of their “capacity to share,” adding that celebs never know where details of their private lives might end up. This is quite the irony, given Harry and Meghan’s self-professed obsession with privacy. It’s also a far cry from the open-arms welcome that they presumably expected would await them in Los Angeles after turning their backs on royal duties in 2020.
Many of the worst aspects of the couple’s priorities were apparent during their 2018 wedding. It was a lavish affair that came with a $37 million price tag, a diamond tiara, a $471,000 electric Jaguar, a Givenchy wedding gown and a bridesmaids’ fitting that may or may not have seen the Duchess of Cambridge reduced to tears. Meghan described the day as a “spectacle for the world,” as though she had no choice in the matter. Never mind that Harry’s cousin, Princess Beatrice, quietly wed her husband in a private service in Windsor two years later; so privately in fact that they had to announce to the world that it had even happened.
In hindsight it is now clear that the Sussexes’ wedding was part of Meghan’s plan to make it in Hollywood. Stars such as Elton John, the Beckhams, Serena Williams, George Clooney, Idris Elba, Priyanka Chopra and, of course, Oprah Winfrey lined the pews. A gathering of the closest friends of the bride and groom? Well, not quite. One guest that attended the ceremony told me that nobody there knew each other. “It was a show: part of me thinks she Googled who would make her look popular and shipped them over for the day.”
The British journalist Rachel Johnson (sister of Boris) tells a story that was doing the rounds in the weeks after the wedding. While Carolyn Bartholomew, Diana’s former roommate, was waiting for the wedding service to start, she turned to the couple alongside her and asked how they knew Harry or Meghan. “We don’t,” replied the Clooneys. Perhaps it’s a cruel rumor, but it illustrates a feature of their attempt at stardom: they can command the attendance of global VIPs but they can’t command their friendship.
Just two years after the wedding, the Sussexes stepped down as working royals, citing their need to “take a step forward into a more peaceful life.” After the decision was finalized, it was widely believed that Meghan had won. She would reap the rewards of her blue-blooded marriage — but would no longer be tied down by the archaic rituals of British royalty and could instead begin a Hollywood dynasty of her own founded on a quest for social justice.
But with every step she takes, Meghan’s ascent looks less and less certain. If recent months have shown us anything, it’s that she hasn’t won anything at all. And that she vastly underestimated how fickle Hollywood is, mistaking five minutes of fame for lifelong relevance. You can’t just take a mid-budget TV actress and a mid-ranking royal and use their considerable bank balance to buy Hollywood status.
Harry and Meghan’s attempts to manufacture friendship have continued. Last year Prince Harry, seemingly desperate to let the world know that he was in with the Montecito crowd, told Dax Shepard on his Armchair Expert podcast that the pair had struck up a friendship with neighbors Orlando Bloom and his partner Katy Perry. Harry said, “just two days ago Orlando Bloom sent me a message because he’s down the road,” adding that the pair “keep in touch.” But an LA source claimed that “despite what they want you to think, Orlando Bloom and Harry are nowhere near being close friends.”
Unsurprisingly, the wedge between the pair is down to Meghan, who, a source reports, “is still angry about Katy Perry’s interview,” where the singer said that Meghan would have been well-served by another wedding-dress fitting. The source added that “the men are trying to stay out of it and although they are being cordial and kind to one another, they are certainly not going to the local bar together for a pint.” It can’t help that Perry added in the interview that “Kate won” the wedding dress sweepstakes.
Speaking to people in LA, there’s a sense that Tinseltown is starting to see through Meghan’s “truth.” Angelenos are realizing that British people didn’t hate her because she wasn’t white, or because she had a career, or any of the other reasons suggested by the Sussexes’ PR. There was no big anti-Meghan conspiracy that kicked into gear as soon as she stepped on British soil. The public there simply saw through her. She lacked the understanding that if taxpayers are footing the bill for her luxury lifestyle, they expect things in return. Is a few pictures once a year and the sight of the new royal baby too much to ask? Brits also don’t take too kindly to being branded racist bigots when Meghan doesn’t get her own way.
The Sussexes’ flop can’t be traced back to a single event; it’s the sum of a series of mistakes fueled by a failure to understand royalty and celebrity. When the actress moved to a palace, she brought with her a showbiz appetite for drama. Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace briefly hosted something akin to a Real Housewives spin-off: the starlet and her team dreamed up personality clashes and confected plotlines and fed them to the London newspapers. But the day-to-day job of a modern royal is gloriously glamour-free. It’s about opening schools and chatting to nurses. There is a relentless focus on celebrating, and spending time with, the little people. It takes a certain type of person — willing to smile, wave and do little else — to marry into the Firm. As the very high royal divorce rate of the last thirty years will tell you, not many are cut out for it.
Now the Sussexes are discovering that the reverse is true, too: you cannot simply take a prince to Hollywood and expect him to become a star. Their fame stems from both royalty and celebrity, but they’re not the same thing.
The death of the Queen, whose life was defined by dutiful public service, was an acute reminder of those differences. A strange combination meant that Her Majesty was somehow the most famous and recognized woman in the world, yet we knew so very little about her, about her thoughts and opinions. In fact, in seventy years on the throne you could count on one hand the times that she expressed her point of view. And that is what true duty is. The Queen’s death is about far more than the story of the feuding Windsors and Sussexes, of course, but it will change the dynamics of this important relationship — and make a royal comeback harder for Harry and Meghan.
Hollywood isn’t blind to their intentions. Gossip extraordinaire Perez Hilton told me that he never believed the Sussexes stepped aside because they wanted more privacy: “It was more of a desire to call their own shots.” But no one seems to have told them that what they wanted — to be the Clooneys or the Obamas — was not something that could merely be bought.
Hilton added that what happened next, in terms of interviews and million-dollar deals, was unsurprising. “They had a need to exploit Prince Harry’s family for financial gain: they needed money. They wanted to live a superstar lifestyle with a multimillion-dollar megamansion in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the United States. They live a very expensive life, and entertainment is where the money is.”
You can see why Harry, and particularly Meghan, thought it could work. At her core, Markle is a showgirl. Forget smiling at nurses! She could take her star-power and his royal privilege global. The problem is that her confidence stems from what can be, at best, described as a loose relationship with reality. As the British royal family has learned the hard way, Markle is a fantasist. She was just eleven years old when she first appeared on Nickelodeon to condemn sexist language in a TV commercial about dish soap. It’s a story that she brings up from time to time, claiming she was so “furious” when she saw the “sexist” Procter & Gamble ad that she decided to write to the most powerful people she could think of, including then-first lady Hillary Clinton, and managed to get the ad pulled.
When she was a D-list celeb who starred in a middling series on the USA cable network, nobody fact-checked her anecdotes. But as her status grew, and her utterances became ever more embellished, they attracted more scrutiny. The investigative journalist Tom Bower claims that the Procter & Gamble story, including Hillary Clinton’s supposed response, was merely the invention of “an adoring father,” Tom Markle. That fantastical worldview certainly runs in the family. Although quite who counts as family is, as ever with Meghan, contested. Her sister is currently suing her for claiming that she was an “only child” during the infamous Oprah interview in March 2021.
The interview in New York, “Meghan of Montecito,” includes her newest and most self-aggrandizing story: she claims that during a visit to The Lion King in London, a cast member from South Africa pulled her aside. “He looked at me, and he’s just like light. He said, ‘I just need you to know: When you married into this family, we rejoiced in the streets the same we did when Mandela was freed from prison.’”
I certainly don't know enough about what the RF is really like to say anything with certainty, but it seems to me that the Queen was devoted to making all Britons feel proud of themselves. The funeral seemed designed give the people of Britain a pat on the back, not herself, as an individual. I don't think people who resent the privileges of the monarchy can understand the two-way relationship between the Queen & her subjects. I don't know whether King Charles will be able to sustain that feeling, but I do think he has a profound love for Britain, & all who live there.
I felt profound relief that all of those world leaders & international royalty managed to get through the funeral safely, a tribute to the UK security services. We Americans have suffered through so many instances of unexpected violence & terror, that it was hard to watch such a public & lengthy event unfold without qualms.
I think so many in this day & age have been convinced that the individual & his/her/their desires & wishes should be paramount, & have forgotten what it is like to be part of something larger than oneself. It was so gratifying to see Her Majesty's funeral unfold, & see a certain twosome relegated to the sidelines & the obscurity which they deserve, & which they have claimed they wanted.
. . .
...however royal sources told MailOnline that Meghan would be 'very unlikely' to trouble the King as he mourns his mother after yesterday’s funeral and as he grapples with his first days as King.
Really? * would stop at nothing to get what she wants, as we all know.
In her New York interview, Meghan told the world that she was “very aware that people see her as a princess,” and at this point I’m not sure whether this is her attempt at satire or whether she has fallen victim to her own imagination. The objective truth is that Meghan’s relationship with reality is blurred — whether or not people saw her as a princess four years ago, they do not regard her in the same way now.
There is no doubt that if he returned, Harry would be welcomed by his family — and the British people — with open arms. But for Meghan, the game could well and truly be up. Perez Hilton summed up the feeling in Hollywood : “They are not our royals. We don’t have any allegiance to them. We don’t have any reverence for them. We will not curtsy in front of them. To us, they are just celebrities.” That’s the problem with mixing monarchy with celebrity: the two worlds overlap — but they are not the same. Meghan and Harry claim to have one foot in both. Increasingly, they aren’t welcome in either.
-----
This article was originally published in The Spectator’s October 2022 World edition.
I reckon that the tears just flow (like turning on the tap/ US:faucet) but unaccompanied by any other signals of misery - no swallowing hard, no blinking, no runny,red, nose, no sniffing, no red-rimmed eyes, no apologies, no bowed head, no wailing, no sobbing, no other sign of distress - except anger?
That's what I concluded from my last narc, when I told her to stop abusing me; her `weeping' became a full-on verbal assault full of accusations.
`Tears' from real crocodilians also flow without any other signal, bar the fact that they are eating at the same time. It's an effect of having a mouth full of food but it gave rise to the myth about it being an expression of remorse for their prey.
I reckon that the tears just flow (like turning on the tap/ US:faucet) but unaccompanied by any other signals of misery - no swallowing hard, no blinking, no runny,red, nose, no sniffing, no red-rimmed eyes, no apologies, no bowed head, no wailing, no sobbing, no other sign of distress - except anger?
That's what I concluded from my last narc, when I told her to stop abusing me; her `weeping' became a full-on verbal assault full of accusations.
`Tears' from real crocodilians also flow without any other signal, bar the fact that they are eating at the same time. It's an effect of having a mouth full of food but it gave rise to the myth about it being an expression of remorse for their prey.
And double the enmity if inheritances are involved in it.
My mother seethed for decades about her mother's 3 rings, which were intended to be one for each daughter, but the daughter who looked after Grandma in her last illness seems to have snaffled the lot.
A similar trick was pulled in the latest funeral over the deceased's 2 rings by a cousin, a daughter of the perpetrator in the previous generation. I had, as Administrator, had to ask them if they knew of any property other than the cash in the bank accounts, for tax assessment. Both denied knowledge of anything, yet one had mentioned that the undertaker would let her have the rings at the funeral and I saw the buff envelope being slipped to her.
Neither my mother nor I said anything as we had no wish to see things turn nasty. Mum never forgot - and neither shall I.
OTOH, if it is said after a conversation, in normal discussion tones, volume, etc., then it doesn't have the same connotations to me.
Why the hate for Meghan during mourning period, asks America
By Will Pavia, New York
As the Queen’s funeral led the news across the United States, The Washington Post was moved to ask in a headline, “Why is the world so fascinated by Queen Elizabeth II?”
But another question has also emerged, as Americans watched coverage of the British royal family and the ceremonies of the period of national mourning. “Good heavens,” exclaimed Robin Abcarian, a columnist for The Los Angeles Times. “Why is so much hate directed at Meghan Markle?”
Abcarian said the Duchess of Sussex had been the victim of an organised campaign on Twitter, generated by a relatively small number of accounts. The motive, she felt, was “garden-variety racism” as well as “something about royal couplings — particularly when an English king or prince weds an American commoner, then flees the country — [that] really inflames our imaginations.”
But unlike the abdication of Edward VIII and his departure with Wallis Simpson for a directionless life of hedonistic splendour, the course set by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex was “far more inspiring”, she wrote.
This was “a modern, fully formed, biracial woman, with a real-life successful career, political opinions and an enviable ease in public settings, marrying into a stodgy white family”, Abcarian added.
Meghan and Prince Harry’s interview with Oprah Winfrey last year was like the declaration of independence: a cause for celebration in the United States, but less well received in Britain, she said.
New York magazine, which felt it had been “a presumably painful and difficult decision” for the duchess to travel to Britain in the light of her past experiences there, offered a list of every “ridiculous reason people have found to criticise Meghan since the Queen’s death”.
It said she had been criticised for holding hands with Harry as the couple emerged from a service and that Princess Anne’s daughter, Zara Tindall, had not faced the same scrutiny for holding hands with her own husband, Mike. It said a woman who appeared to refuse to shake hands with Meghan had been celebrated by others on Twitter, and that conspiracy theorists had suggested that creases in her dress while greeting the crowds signified a recording device she was using to secretly tape the proceedings as part of a Netflix deal.
• Kate and Meghan honour Queen by wearing her jewellery
The New York Times lamented that the brief walkabout the couple took with the Prince and Princess of Wales to greet mourners and well-wishers was subjected to “pointillistic armchair analysis”, as if it was the famous film shot by Abraham Zapruder capturing the assassination of President Kennedy.
It noted that Harry and Meghan were at the close of a trip to Germany and Britain which had been “unkindly” described by Hilary Rose, in The Times, as “a mini-freelance royal tour”. It had been portrayed as “attention seeking” by newspapers that then lavished it with attention “albeit mostly negative”, The New York Times said.
Coverage of ceremonies after the Queen’s death betrayed a similar attitude, it suggested. It said newspapers such as The Mirror had followed “what appeared to be an anti-Meghan party line” in reporting on mourners who refused to shake her hand.
Pretty sure it was yesterday when I found a Reddit post finally outing MM as a yacht girl, including a picture, by someone she worked with. But today I can't find it.
thank you for posting that very good article from the Spectator.
And they are doing exactly what she said they would do...look at the US press now. But what has changed, we've got their number now. It's been alleged up to 5.1 billion say the Queen's funeral. That seems a bit steep but surely what we say this past 2 weeks is that the Firm is still a powerhouse and Meghan badly misplayed her hand.
“Now, Prince Harry. If you resign from your job in a huff, and sell The Firm’s secrets, don’t expect to keep the company car and your salary or be upset when you don’t get an invitation to the Christmas party. That much is clear to any normal person. Not to the Duke of Sussex who caused his grandmother a lot of stress in her final years with repugnant and damaging allegations about her family (“Recollections may vary”). Luckily, Her Majesty’s death gave the Prince an ideal opportunity to reflect on his and his wife’s unkind behaviour and make a full apology to his father and brother.”
“Just kidding! The Sussexes will soon be back in California where Harry can write an extra bonus chapter in his grievance memoir. Which explains why none of his grieving relatives particularly wanted to talk to him. He seemed surprised.”
Not when the self-belief is rooted firmly in mental illness and/or a serious personality disorder. Tom Bower’s book should be required reading for anyone wanting or hired to opine on her or TOS. That so many in the media still turn a blind eye is no longer excusable.
https://archive.ph/sD5ZB#selection-1733.0-1733.727
Speaking to people in LA, there’s a sense that Tinseltown is starting to see through Meghan’s “truth.” Angelenos are realizing that British people didn’t hate her because she wasn’t white, or because she had a career, or any of the other reasons suggested by the Sussexes’ PR. There was no big anti-Meghan conspiracy that kicked into gear as soon as she stepped on British soil. The public there simply saw through her. She lacked the understanding that if taxpayers are footing the bill for her luxury lifestyle, they expect things in return. Is a few pictures once a year and the sight of the new royal baby too much to ask? Brits also don’t take too kindly to being branded racist bigots when Meghan doesn’t get her own way.
The Sussexes’ flop can’t be traced back to a single event; it’s the sum of a series of mistakes fueled by a failure to understand royalty and celebrity.
The death of the Queen, whose life was defined by dutiful public service, was an acute reminder of those differences. A strange combination meant that Her Majesty was somehow the most famous and recognized woman in the world, yet we knew so very little about her, about her thoughts and opinions. In fact, in seventy years on the throne you could count on one hand the times that she expressed her point of view. And that is what true duty is. The Queen’s death is about far more than the story of the feuding Windsors and Sussexes, of course, but it will change the dynamics of this important relationship — and make a royal comeback harder for Harry and Meghan.
Hollywood isn’t blind to their intentions.
I want to thank you too for the devastating takedown of gruesome twosome in The Spectator. I hope that everyone will read it.
BTW, and nothing to do with anyone we discuss here, you understand, I've been reading some of Colin Dexter's `Inspector Morse' novels. In one (perhaps `Last Seen Wearinng) the `naughty girls' of Oxford featured. One character pointed out that `courtesan' was an anagram of `a sore - '.
Wow, written by an American with zero understanding of our royal family and protocol or in the least taking all of Maggot’s victim narrative from American media, and throwing it back at us with zero criticism and mention of what damage and lies she’s told about her own family, the royal family and the UK. Murdoch owns The Times….I guess we should be adding that paper to the anti establishment list now as well. 🥴
Her skin looks even paler than mine. I burn easily and keep covered up.
Nutties, excellent commentary here & excerpt from it
https://archive.ph/sD5ZB#selection-1733.0-1733.727
Speaking to people in LA, there’s a sense that Tinseltown is starting to see through Meghan’s “truth.” Angelenos are realizing that British people didn’t hate her because she wasn’t white, or because she had a career, or any of the other reasons suggested by the Sussexes’ PR. There was no big anti-Meghan conspiracy that kicked into gear as soon as she stepped on British soil. The public there simply saw through her. She lacked the understanding that if taxpayers are footing the bill for her luxury lifestyle, they expect things in return. Is a few pictures once a year and the sight of the new royal baby too much to ask? Brits also don’t take too kindly to being branded racist bigots when Meghan doesn’t get her own way.
The Sussexes’ flop can’t be traced back to a single event; it’s the sum of a series of mistakes fueled by a failure to understand royalty and celebrity.
The death of the Queen, whose life was defined by dutiful public service, was an acute reminder of those differences. A strange combination meant that Her Majesty was somehow the most famous and recognized woman in the world, yet we knew so very little about her, about her thoughts and opinions. In fact, in seventy years on the throne you could count on one hand the times that she expressed her point of view. And that is what true duty is. The Queen’s death is about far more than the story of the feuding Windsors and Sussexes, of course, but it will change the dynamics of this important relationship — and make a royal comeback harder for Harry and Meghan.
Hollywood isn’t blind to their intentions.
My family chuckles when I tell them, if I want to know what is going on in the world, first I read the Daily Mail, then check other media.
Tom Bowers book is spot on - verifying everything that has been in in british print about the duo.
The publicity is lessening, so hopefully John Q Public here across the pond is waking up to the duo. Hopefully, KCIII will settle "all debts and family business" soon.
This is commonly used in the acting industry when the actors are required to cry but can’t .. I wouldn’t put it past her for using it here
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xjlr27/tears_interesting/
Never underestimate what Megsybaby will do to get those titles and grab that cashola and she's not gonna let the funeral of some old outdated....you know, and I'm not gonna denigrate HMTQ by going further. Crass doesn't even begin to describe her. They made a gruesome and ghastly spectacle of themselves at the Queen's mourning and funeral. How can Harry face his family? I just don't know.
PHRASING!
wow that spectator piece. ouch. guess SS isn’t paying to help this out of the press.
hey harkles . how are those kids? haven’t seen them in a month and you are hanging around for what.? titles? reading of the will? stalking the wales? 2-1 fish n chips night at the local pub? non paps recording your every move.? no tv or movie offers after that epic display of soulful mourning? you two are boring me again.
https://external-preview.redd.it/925RydxvZJxQ0vFCdkUeLGq2se-jLM-Xz_TV50luowQ.jpg?auto=webp&s=9bd5811a832fa8fc1b153a7f6bd1eb84cb38a83e
I think we might be looking at proof here. Could Meghan have threatened to sit down and possibly pull other eye catching stunts, if she didn't get the titles granted immediately, so they placed the candle where they did and probably instructed the royal rota about the stunts she was planning, which would explain how she was nearly erased from much of the world coverage. That candle was no coincidence and it was noticeable how the media coverage edited her out. So they were expecting something like this. Can't you just see Harry whispering to her, You can stand up love. Nobody can see you because of the candle.
In the words of Justin Timberlake, What Goes Around Comes Around
Thank you for the Spectator excellent article. It's reassuring to know that people in LA are seeing through *: 'Hollywood isn’t blind to their intentions.' I hope that this new found wisdom extends to the rest of the country.
Re the Harkles staying over here for them will, probate takes several months although I don't know what happens in the case of the BRF. There's not going to be a reading of the will until some time next year. In any case, what would make her believe the Queen left her anything? Possibly some little trinkets if anything. H will be a beneficiary, not * (I hope) and I hope she won't be able to get her claws into his inheritance. Unless he's stupid enough to share any inheritance and sink it into their ill fated projects but it might be left in trusts etc. Anyway, it would be extremely bad form to think of the will when the funeral is barely over.
In a sense, they did try to forecast the best day by one of the few systems available. They checked the weather records for which day was likely to be the sunniest and so settled for June 2nd.
Well, they got that wrong. Might as well have stuck to the tea leaves - it had been raining but when Mum & I set out at 5.30am to get the Tube to Westminster, it had eased up and there were patches of watery blue in the sky but it didn't last.
The sun didn't come out from behind the cloud until the Golden Coach drew level with the Cenotaph and the light was reflected from the back. Queen Salote of Tonga won plaudits for refusing to raise the hood on her State landau, see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhfxAyzfn2E at 0.36 - 0.40
The volume of cheering at this point rose to a crescendo!
The early sequences seem to show Houses of Parliament and the tower of St Margaret's Westminter; shops possibly in Oxford St..
It wasn't just the candle that prevented the public from seeing the twat at the funeral.
I read over at Reddit that the BBC would pan the camera the length of the bench and suddenly stop just before they reached the twat. Same thing during the procession and afterwards outside the Abbey. Then, in the chapel at Windsor, she was obscured by the Queen's coffin.
So, yes, I do believe there was a concerted effort to keep her from appearing on camera. Who was responsible for the decision? I really doubt that Charles would think about this sort of thing in his situation at the time, so I think it must have been the initiative of the producers of the program.
I think she sensed some evil from him because she was sitting very close to her mother, so much so that half her seat was empty.
That really sealed the deal for me. One can bear a grudge towards one's sibling, but nephews and nieces, especially that young, are not to be dragged into the feud.
The "loose relationship with reality" denotes a profoundl mentally unstable person.
In black and white print. Wow.
My family chuckles when I tell them, if I want to know what is going on in the world, first I read the Daily Mail, then check other media.
_______
Some people look at me like I’m a madwoman when I tell them that the DM has become my go-to for news, but I take pride in turning a lifelong friend of mine who is a liberal with a Masters in Journalism from Colombia, into a DM addict.
As an American, I cannot explain why the left-leaning press tends to favor MM. The majority of those on twitter tend to believe her allegation of racism, despite the poor souls who try to bring forth the lies that have been refuted.
It's just as you've noticed, though it goes much deeper. They believe the BRF is racist, and indeed so racist that family members can't even tell that they are. A few years ago, I heard two people on a radio program arguing about that. One of them said that he didn't think they were racist to * because of points A, B, C, D, etc. And the woman asked him, with the certainty that only true believers have: "Apart from *, how many other members of the BRF aren't white?" And she really thought she had won the debate. It's really like that for some people.
Poor *! Going to all that trouble to pull some stunts, only to be thwarted by a candle.
I'm sure she'll leak something in a few days about why she was sitting down. (Another fake pregnancy?) She's not the type to let a good spectacle go unnoticed.
maybe she was high or drunk or knew the candle was hiding her. or she’s gonna push pregnancy number 10 as she was feeling faint pulling crap at a funeral. clearly she knows she’s toast. a little too desperate.
good catch Este.
I'm trying to follow anti-Alzheimer's advice that reading novels and trying to keep track of the narrative is good for the memory. I do have some difficulty keeping track with the intricacy of Colin Dexter's plots. Perhaps there's not much hope for me and my short-term memory!
... which being interpreted, means CRIII grovelling to *, not the other way around.
The mouthpiece of the duo speaks again! She describes the estrangement as a family tiff!
Tina Brown is still pushing the half-in/half-out narrative.
Pathetic!
@Girl With a Hat, yes, from what I saw of the funeral, * was almost invisible, as she should have been. She is the wife of a minor royal. The networks didn't show much of the York sisters & their spouses either; they are who the 5s should consider their peers in the RF.
I'm not a believer in astrology, but have sometimes been astonished when people seem to exhibit the traits of their star signs. Charles is a Scorpio, the most vindictive sign on the zodiac. Scorpios supposedly are also moved by stories of victimization, not sure if he will buy that from the 5s now, after all of their treacherous behavior.
For your amusement, does it sound like Charles?
https://thoughtcatalog.com/january-nelson/2021/05/scorpio-man/#:~:text=a%20Scorpio%20man%3A-,Scorpio%20Man%20Personality%20Traits,h
Thank you so much.
BTW Has Orca made any comment yet about not being invited to the funeral after all?
"...There's not going to be a reading of the will until some time next year. In any case, what would make her believe the Queen left her anything? Possibly some little trinkets if anything. H will be a beneficiary, not * (I hope) and I hope she won't be able to get her claws into his inheritance. Unless he's stupid enough to share any inheritance and sink it into their ill fated projects but it might be left in trusts etc."
I didn't know royal Wills were subject to "readings" but regardless, I really doubt TQ would name MM as a beneficiary. Even if MM & Harry were normal people and hadn't been acting like total jerks for years, 3 of TQ's 4 children are divorced. One of her grandchildren is divorced (after 12 years of marriage!) but 3 of them have been married less than 5 years. So I doubt she'd leave anything to a grandchild's spouse.
Personally I doubt she'll leave much to anyone but Charles (so it will be tax-free.) I'm not at all sure Harry will get an inheritance from the TQ. And the story that TQ would leave all her personal historic jewelry to Kate is just silly IMO. I think most will go to Charles or to the permanent Royal Collection and of course Kate will continue to wear pieces. But IF TQ gives pieces to family instead, I cannot imagine she'd leave nothing to Anne and nothing to Sophie, her "second daughter" and nothing to her 4 blood granddaughters in order to leave everything to a granddaughter-in-law. I don't doubt TQ saw W&K as the future of the Monarchy but that doesn't mean giving enormous "gifts" to Kate at the expense of other family. There's just no reason to give Kate private ownership and lots of tax reasons why that shouldn't be done. It is amusing though to hear clueless commentators in the US point to pieces Kate wore at funeral events as "proof" of her inheritance!
New Post up.
A persons sun sign is only one tiny part when it comes to astrology, so it’s not particularly accurate and is far too stereotypical. You should look at Charles astrology birth chart to get an accurate account of his persona.
HG Tudor says both Charles and Andrew are narcissists, though not the same type Maggot is. 🥴
Personally, I do not believe the RF conspired with anyone about M being blocked by a candlestick. It's petty and ridiculous. HOWEVER, I do think the media might conspire against her. H$M have launched multiple frivolous lawsuits against them. Some they have lost, others won. At a huge cost though. QE funeral was not about the feuds, inheritances, jewelry or dresses-it was about the queens life of service to her country. M has a reputation for drawing attention to herself whether it be transparent skirts, unbuttoned shirt with bra showing at someone's wedding, mantis green dress at church service etc. The media may have anticipated her antics and planned accordingly so the focus remained on QE.
“Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel”
It wouldn't surprise me if she tried to sue over being blocked by a candlestick. The media decides what gets published and what doesn't. If they refuse to publish her planted puff pieces it will be extremely difficult to rehabilitate her image. This may have been H$M "shot over the bow" from the media. H$M are fading into the abyss and their whinging horrid behavior isn't helping them. They really are their own worst enemies.
It’s absolutely fine, 😃I don’t believe you’d upset anyone with the astrology comment. 😊
More intrigue 'uncovered' in the royal family, this time centred around Andrew (with Sarah and Diane as co-conspirators)! I found it actually a welcome distraction from the nasty duo (the 'noise' around them continues unabated).
Just a reminder that Valentine Low's book is due to be published soon, so the royal family is going to face fresh scandals. The duo are not going to be let off lightly ... Ben Goldsmith has been tweeting and in one tweet claimed that he could personally know some of the courtiers that were bullied by TBW.
Rebecca English: During the engagement William said the royal family had seen five rainbows above Balmoral after her death on September 8.
‘You hardly ever see rainbows up there, but there were five,’ he said.
The Princess replied: ‘Her Majesty was looking down on us’
New Palace Confidential.
The Sussex problem: my personal opinion is that their characters are the problem and make them not to be trusted and unsuitable for playing any role in the monarchy. Character does not change, so an apology would actually be irrelevant. But the view shared is that the duo have gone back feeling slighted and are probably going to unleash revenge. I think that they are bratty toddlers who throw tantrums if they do not get what they want when they demand it and then when they do get it they throw it back at you and demand something else.
I can't tell their political leaning but many of them are American, and appear to be fully Black, which has always puzzled me a bit since * repudiates that part of her heritage unless it serves her grievances.
But my larger point is, aside from that very small sample, I can't really tell who her "supporters" are. We do know that, in times when money was flowing more freely, bots were purchased. I think NO media have an opinion about her except that she brings eyeballs to their sites, thus money, thus attention to their stories that really matter. Sort of like why they publish comic strips.
I keep reading here about "liberal media" supporting her. But I don't know why they would (except, see above) and I also think there is confusion about which media is truly "liberal." A good chart can be found here:
https://adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/
I may be wrong but most of these sources seem to be US-based and the chart doesn't seem to represent the recent ownership change of CNN. And it doesn't account for readers or subscribers who reply to articles -- publishers have no control over these (I mean, unless they censor. And why would they?) For instance, I have always found the comments on Washington Post articles to be very pro-* and it just baffles me.
Anyway, I think all of us here seem to be avid consumers of media and I thought this might be of interest.