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Subtle Tide Shifting

 In the past, it always kind of bothered me that the media tended to call Catherine as Middleton.  This even when they had been married for years.  On some level, I felt perhaps they had missed notice of the wedding or something?  Kind of spitefully mean middle school response.  

I just saw this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHtWxSvzGRo

Very interesting about why it doesn't apply to Meghan.

Think back through the history of antagonism towards the media - Harry with his past (photos, comments) and then bringing her in (where it was more she controlled output + good for her plans of expansion) to now the situation where she no longer could.  Full stop.  And, not a whiff of apology for the most part.  

Notice that it follows other stories of how the BBC have been rather coming face to face about past less savory actions to get what they wanted (lies to Diana and so on).  

I think we are seeing a shift in how reporting will handled - in ways it has not in the past.  The King?  William, Prince of Wales?  Don't know but I think the people who will most benefit will be Camilla Queen Consort, Catherine Princess of Wales and the Wales children.  





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Maneki Neko said…
Yes, the comments in the DM always berate the paper/it's journalists (if you can call some of them that) for calling Catherine Kate Middleton. She was known originally as Kate but William asked for her to be called Catherine. She wanted her friends to call her by her full name, perhaps knowing she would be part of the BRF, although this was before the engagement. They decided to get married although William didn't actually propose until 2009.

It's perhaps worth noting that Diana was Lady Diana or sometimes Lady Di and Princess Diana but Fergie, aka Sarah Ferguson, was always Fergie, occasionally the Duchess of York. Perhaps this is because Diana was from an aristocratic family. Short names can be viewed as more 'common', e.g. Andy, Steve, Dave. Inversely, some politicians think it makes them more 'relatable', e.g. Tony Blair, Tony Benny etc.
Poor Harry, he has a bowl some (disgusting looking) food in his hands so he is eating. And then comes his wife and forces him to kiss him. I hope she got some of that food in her mouth as a punishment!

Sassie said…
“I cannot recall any celebrity ever who has waterboarded the public so hard to force us into submission to accept her. It's brutal.”

Don’t you all think this comment is spot on? I just read it on Cheere Denise’s most recent video about the Harper’s Bazaar cover and article.
It would be better look for Harry if he had his hair cut short.
Girl with a Hat said…
All I know is that it's impolite not to call someone by the name they wished to be called by. That says a lot about the British journalists.
I wonder how many of these journalists envy Catherine and would have wanted to marry either William or Charles.
Girl with a Hat said…
I recommend you go to
https://nypost.com/2025/11/20/entertainment/meghan-markle-has-risen-to-comic-levels-of-self-importance/

and read the articles, and especially the comments.
The one about the fire hydrant and the responses to it are particularly funny.
Girl with a Hat said…
over at Saint Meghan Markle, on this thread, they reveal that * got Harper's Bazaar to agree in writing to release the interview and the story that she was on the front page, when Catherine had a major event, according to Neil Sean

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1p37ekb/behind_the_scenes_at_harpers_bazaar_it_seems/
Girl with a Hat said…
https://archive.is/AJu0X

The home that * used for her interview in NYC for Harper`s Bazaar, belongs to Victoria Jackson, owner of No Makeup Makeup Company and a patron of the Harkles. She lends them her private jet, and her home in Montecito and in L.A.
This explains *`s decision to try a no makeup look on the Harper`s cover.
Girl with a Hat said…
The relationship with Victoria Jackson = royals for hire
https://x.com/sage1411/status/1992078368536408435/photo/1
Maneki Neko said…
That no makeup look didn't look good on her, I don't think the lighting helped either. As for the Reddit story, the photo of her in a raincoat, cream blouse and black skirt is hideous. The pose is one I've seen on clothes websites, only hers is 'dead' and looks ridiculous. She has a bulging tummy as if she was about 4 months pregnant. I'm not trying to be nasty, it's really not a flattering photo and I'd be mortified to have it in a magazine.
I suppose Victoria Jackson is a 'friend' for now who'll go the way *'s other friends go when she deems they are of no further use.
Maneki Neko said…
There is a very good article by Jan Moir in the DM with very apt remarks, not just about As Ever products.

'My trip to Meghan Markle's pop up shop where even the Montecito set baulk at £24 for a jar of honey!'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-15315193/JAN-MOIR-Meghan-Markles-shop-Montecito.html
I noticed that Blair didn't go as far as calling himself `Tone', the truly proletarian version of Anthony. Neither did Mr Benn, the former Mr Wedgewood Benn/ 2nd Viscount Stansgate.

It's considered disrespectful to refer to anyone by a name they have asked you not to use. `Meghan Markle' was her `professional' name as an actress. I despise her and use that name to disrespect her. `Duchess of Sussex' sticks in my craw.
Girl with a Hat said…
A quote from the article that made me laugh: Meghan portraying herself as the hostess with the mostest is a little like Cruella de Vil being in charge of a puppy farm – sooner or later the fur is going to fly.
OKay said…
Including some of the fellas!
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

Personally, I like how Jan Moir talks about 'our favourite jampreneur':

’. . . Meghan is seen single-handedly inventing Christmas before invading her own privacy by kissing Harry, boiling up some of her twig tea in a saucepan, tablescaping like a lunatic and making a wreath out of broccoli florets before gurgling: ‘I love the holiday season. It’s about finding time to connect with the people we love.’' (except her father and in-laws)
Maneki Neko said…
Does * ever stop whingeing? Now she's complaining that life at KP was like a prison. She was 'left 'horrified' at the prospect of being routinely driven from Kensington Palace to various official functions.'. I'd certainly be similarly horrified!! The woman never knows when to stop. I'd be delighted with an apartment in KP... This is from Kensington Palace, a book by Tom Quinn, royal biographer.
Girl with a Hat said…
From a comment at Saint Meghan Markle:

Am currently in Singapore at a conference. Visited the Hermes shop with a friend who can afford that stuff. She wanted a Hermes blanket. I told her that the one she was looking at had been shown on one of the many Markle videos/shows. Immediately she said ‘I can’t stand her - you’ve ruined it for me. Won’t be buying it’. The shop assistant looked disappointed but said it was a common reaction
If she's not careful, * may well end up finding out what gaol is really like...
Can you imagine if she'd been expected to get on a Transport for London bus, or go by Tube? Would she have demanded to have an entire bus cleared or would she have been satisfied with having `upstairs' all to herself?
She wouldn't have qualified for a Freedom Pass so would have had to have paid her fare. What a come down that would have been.

TBH, I'm surprised she hasn't yet claimed to be a refugee on account of how she was persecuted. Does the rubber dinghy on her Chat GP coat of arms perhaps represent a plan to paddle across the Channel/ La Manche, to claim asylum in France?
A further thought: If, at some point in the next reign, legal action were to be taken against the Harkles for their alleged financial and /or treasonous crimes ( I'm thinking of the alleged Interference in the Succession, should they have gone down the surrogacy route but still claimed princely titles for their children, to say nothing of others being charged with conspiracy as well*) the case would be called at the very least `Rex versus the Duke and Duchess of Sussex'.
Her wish for legal confrontation with William will be granted, but not in the way she expects. I wonder if she realises that , or if she's relying on not being extradited from the US?

*The Old Bailey's gonna need a bigger dock!
abbyh said…
Leaks are forming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvWzRbbVTAk

What I really noticed was the idea that they will be "recalled" back to the UK to serve and help the King. Whew. That's really out there if you ask me.
Their delusion is off the scale!

Joking apart about buses, didn't she complain that her driving licence had been `taken away', along with her passport? We may have assumed that it was simply looked after for `safe keeping'' but could it have been because she was seldom fit to drive, for whatever reason?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1p541gz/the_eyes_are_the_windows_to_the_soul_or_lack/
Interesting post here. I'd already had a go at testing how symmetrical her face was/is in this way and got such a diabolical-looking `2025 right-side of face' (had a choice of leaving slight gap between the halves or overlapping them? result that I wondered if some of her early UK photos were manipulated to flatter her.
That `2025-RHS' face gave me the same chill as her stare into the TV camera at Eugenie's wedding.
Girl with a Hat said…
HGTudor - what MI5 knew about Meghan Markle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECqlegnEKE&t=44s
Girl with a Hat said…
over at CDAN, they have the entire dossier summarized from twitter posts. Even the item about Andrew paying her $34k to spend 3 weeks with her.
I've just picked up on this and and now beginning to digest it.

It seems legit to me. We have speculated that HGT was in some way acting as an advisor to Royal security, so he may be an insider. The dateline is 5 days ago so were it unauthorised I imagine it would have disappeared pdq if not, like that `announcement' from KP about surrogacy.

The content is no real surprise , it's more or less what I would have expected, apart from how early MI5 is said picked up on her - I just feel profound sadness that they were able to get HM over a barrel.

The reference to H as `Sussex' as early as 2016 suggests to me that this may have been a code name, based on conduct of previous holder of the title, later used for real.

If it is fake, it's a very good one.
This one from 5 days ago, had me reeling. It is, of course, speculation but does suggest a way ahead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr71SZazSKU
`Operation Aurora: To stop the Sussexes'

`HG Tudor analyzes a purported top-secret operation to mitigate the Sussexes' impact on the British monarchy. The plan involves several strategic moves, detailed in a confidential memorandum. This in-depth examination explores potential political and social ramifications'.
When papers write that the King has always left the door open to Harry that "darling boy" seems to interpret it like: "I can waltz back home whenever I want and continue my royal life as before this California chapter". Maybe Harry is right.

Maybe the King wants his reign end in peace without The Sussex Scandal even if his elder son is then forced to start HIS reign with that same wretched scandal (i.e. to make Harry and wife plain mr and mrs)

If the baroness chose herself the front page photo in the harper's bazaar she DOES NOT SEE herself as other people do, that's all I can say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p1FKtEAc9ot
Neil Sean reporting that according to a reliable source, * has approached the Buckingham Palace shop, in hope of their stocking her produce. She can't have got the memo that the shop exists for charitable reasons (the care of the artwork held by the Crown), not for the enrichment of the Royals.

As the website says, “The income from every purchase you make contributes directly to the care of the Royal Collection”. It specifically states
`All profits are donated to charity' -in Britain that means exactly what it says.
https://www.royalcollectionshop.co.uk/
Maneki Neko said…
I haven't had a chance to check the above links and videos yet but saw this headline in the DM

Meghan Markle is accused of keeping £1,300 green Galvan dress from 2022 photoshoot with Variety and re-wearing it for her festive Netflix series

Plus ça change...
Maneki Neko said…
'The line of succession on the Royal Family's website has finally been updated to reflect the removal of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's titles, the Daily Mail can reveal.'

The list now reads 'Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor' instead of 'The Duke of York', 8th on the list so after Harry and his sprogs.
Maneki Neko said…
Another Sussex delight, this time about * and her unsanitary way of doing a turkey for Thanksgiving.

'Although she appears to wash her hands after rubbing the seasoning in, eagle-eyed viewers noticed she kept all her jewelry on while handling the raw meat, sparking concern about her lack of kitchen hygiene.

'I don't know anyone who wears their rings and bracelets when handling food, especially a turkey. Guaranteed spread of bacteria,' one horrified user commented on the video.

A second wrote: 'I mean I love sparkly engagement rings as much as the next jewelry-hound, but not while cooking!'

'Right? Who wants crap getting stuck in your ring's setting?' asked another.

'So gross, and it's basic food handling knowledge. Proof she has no idea what she's doing,' declared someone else.'
. . . 'Someone else then pointed out: 'Then she picks up the pepper grinder without washing her hands. Another Salmonella Sussex disaster.''

This won't help her cookery videos.
Only cost £1,300? How could she stoop so low as to take pinch such schmutter! (Sarcasm!)
abbyh said…
I figure disposable gloves were invented for a reason.
I understood that it's not unknown for clothes which royal ladies no longer wear to be passed on to members of their staff, as a perk. They then sell them anonymously through dress agencies. Purchasers have no way of knowing the source of such clothes,
My browsing beyond *'s `breakfast stations' brought me to mention of `French Toast Casserole'. Is that what I call bread and butter pudding?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1p80af4/recent_article_by_hilary_rose/
Comments about the food hygiene habits of Salmonella Markle remind me of Typhoid Mary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon). Perhaps she'll end up incarcerated as a public health hazard, just like the is earlier MM!
GBNews called the baroness "Salmonella Sussex" so it seems she is losing faster and faster any respect in anything she does. Lady C has started to call the children "Harry's children" so she does not seem to believe that his wife carried those tots.

The realm of the baroness is falling. Whatever is she going to do next?

She is a middle aged woman, what on green earth is that girlish jumping and clapping her hands when she is extremely satisfied with herself? That is so ridiculous.....

Girl with a Hat said…
Happy Thanksgiving to all American nutties!
From a DT round-up of Harkle items :
Camilla Tominey said in September
`You’d have to have a heart of stone not to want Harry welcomed back
The Sussexes have been incredibly irritating, but families belong together, not apart'.
That's fine by me - my heart is rock-solid that I don't want him `welcomed' back. I might just tolerate the idea if he was kept out of the limelight, preferably by being sent to Coventry, (For non-Brits, that a metaphorical fate, not a literal one).
As for the assertion that families belong together...
Girl with a Hat said…
The current thinking on families belonging together is that "no contact" is best when dealing with toxic and narcissistic members of the family.
Camilla Tominey is just hoping to stir up some dysfunctional behaviour in the BRF so that she can have more things about which to report. Well adjusted and well behaved people like the current working royas don't give her much to work with. LOL
Perhaps we worry too much about the Line of Succession, infuriating though the presence of some individuals may be. I was fascinated by the proceedings at the Accession Council, on the day that Charles was proclaimed King, so glad it was televised.
As I understand it, the new monarch has to agree formally to what one might call `Terms and Conditions' and, in theory, the Privy Council & Parliament have the final say to whether the reign goes ahead, much as the Witan did in Saxon times. I doubt if it get that far, were (Heaven forbid!) the Waleses out of the picture.
Remember, the monarch reigns only if they have `the consent of the People'.
Girl with a Hat said…
So the digital version of Harper's Bazaar USA is out today. I have a version. The magazine is pretty woke, for example, it has a story featuring an image of a black Statue of Liberty and a version of that famous photo of VE day but with a black sailor kissing a black woman
re Families `belonging together': I suspect that only narcissists. those who have never knowingly encountered a narcissist in the family, and, as you say, those hoping to make money out of the chaos, promulgate that
tripe - sorry, point of view.

The photo - was it a re-enactment and clearly not the exact same photo, or was it a doctored historical document?
Girl with a Hat said…
poor Mr Markle! I hope he gets well soon.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1pdfini/she_cant_even_photoshop_correctly/
Whatever that is around her left wrist (`Diana's' watch? A stonking great bracelet?) are we to assume she wears it in bed?
Also, has anyone been able to make out if she's wearing nail varnish when cooking? That's another big no-no for cooking (it can hide a ton of dirt under the nails.)
So Harry considers that he has right to insult the head of state of the country he lives in and uses his royal status that was gift of the head of state of his own country to make his opinions consequential. What a charmer!

He has never been so horribly UGLY and without any dignity than in the Colbert show. And he is on the royal.uk website. I'm glad he does not represent my country.

Harry also played a homosexual scene with Colbert. Why? Because homosexuality obviously is a right topic to joke cheaply about when you are a prince of the United Kingdom.

Really.....

Harry seems to have forgotten every civilized manner he ever learned in his childhood and youth. I mean the members of the Royal Family are famous of the considerate tactfulness of their manners (well, maybe not Andrew). On the other hand he has lived these years with his wife who is extremely vulgar, cheap, coarse and disgusting in her own behaviour, so maybe he just learned from the master and is just aping her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1pe5snh/gee_now_where_have_i_seen_that_chocolate/
The blue flowers are cornflowers, often worn by the King in his buttonhole. I don't recognise the others as English, either as wild flowers or cultivated ones. The orange poppies are Californian. Likewise, I can't think of any flower with a single whorl of 7 petals.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGpEy7-7cLs

Neil Sean talks about how the invisikids were hanging around during the filming of *'s Christmas special, but no one was allowed to speak to them or interact with them. Very well behaved kids he says.
Magatha Mistie said…


Bougie

Hihosynth(etic) Fouquet
With her hammy holiday display
Had me retch in her floral tin bucket
Each calendar pocket
Filled with crackers and vomit
Made me wish haz had balls to
Just Fucket…



Magatha Mistie said…
Pa-gliacci

Left too late
To clear the slate
Poor old pa
needs love not hate
Should she go or
should she stay
Makes no difference
either way
Pa cast out without a say
Madams fault
parley delay….


Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15357947/Meghan-Markle-reaches-ailing-father-Thomas-life-saving-surgery-amputate-leg.html

It's been claimed that * reached out to her ailing father.
I personally don't believe it for a moment.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cozC8YHEu4

Quasi-Royal Elevates Humanity With Her Perfect Christmas Special | “With Love, Meghan” Analysis by Dr Todd Grande
There's something so phoney about `reached out' - is it counselling-speak?. What's wrong with `contacted', `got in touch with', `wrote to' or `telephoned'?
The Beeb pointed out that `he's never met his grandchildren' - blow that ! He hasn't even met his son-in-law!
This is more like it -
According to The Times, and thus SMM, she instructed her aides to `reach out' to her father, or reading between the lines, to check whether the reports about his health were true.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/?feedViewType=classicView

Is it my imagination, or are more bloggers and Youtubers calling them out regarding the truth or otherwise about the births of Aldi and Lidl?
abbyh said…
I think there is something there (increase or visibility) too. Small but ... telling.

The big stuff like him saying he will only tell his brother face to face - we know that's never going to happen but what is said in MSM isn't that it won't happen but that it could ... which then isn't followed up as a challenge by the palace - never explain probably.

Big stuff they have some explanation, reason why and push, push that narrative.

Little stuff like more people questioning the whole kids thing (from the birth stories up to how very limited outsiders talk to a kid and even that is under highly controlled situations) may actually be more damaging long term. Trying to squash all of them is like pinching bubble wrap - there's always another square untouched that you notice just after you popped a bubble.

We're likely to notice this as we've been watching this for years now. We have a good sense of what was a normal level of response within the media about any story to currently to historical.

WBBM, the tide doesn't usually flow in instantly like a flood. It is small and not super obvious that it has turned. Only people paying attention tend to notice. Nice catch. I had also been seeing change.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://archive.is/5KnlH

This is an interesting story about a young woman who pretended to be pregnant and then used a doll as her newborn.
I was trying to reduce the number of times I comment here but I can't resist this post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1pfwe09/netflix_christmas_show_storing_boxes_in_the_oven/

She's in clothes the colour of cow dung, stirring a pot over a burner which is surely not turned on. The oven below contains stored boxes - is she at a kitchen showroom? - and the only way to make sense of her `height' is to assume she's standing on a box. (for reference, I've shrunk from 5'5" to 5'3" and my standard-height hob is now level with my umbilicus, not my crotch.)
How bloody ridiculous!

Girl with a Hat said…
She 'reacher out' to her father but she has short arms. LOL
She sent an email to an address he hasn't used in 5 years.
Maneki Neko said…
I'm away at the moment and don't always have access to the internet but read briefly about Thomas Markle today. * has 'reached out' to him, had she? As @ Wild Boar said, 'is it counselling-speak?'. And this is something 'she instructed her aides' to do? Did she not phone him or contact him in a personal capacity? I don't think she'll be flying out to see him any time soon.
I realise that IBT isn't the most reliable source (yes, that's an understatement) but is there any truth, d'y'think, in this? Is she heading for more accusations of R-ism but at a personal level? Is she on the point of of going stark staring raving bonkers? Might this be another step to becoming Mrs Mountbatten Windsor?
This ditty, which popped up when I was watching `The Salisbury Organist' is priceless:
Harry and Meghan Parody Psychotherapy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66nopZ9oW68&list=RDUI0jAxh0kkU&index=2
Girl with a Hat said…
WBBM, to which incident are you referring?

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