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Whiplash?

 Andrew has been arrested and the police are looking about.  Not certain what could still be around but it is what it is.

What I wonder about is how this could open up the flood gates to how to handle the California bunch.

Thoughts?

Comments

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The reaction of the King was not well thought. Panicking in this situation is no use.
Girl with a Hat said…
I was notified of a podcast which will discuss this but it only mentions that Tony Blair will be swept up in the scandal as well.
Girl with a Hat said…
Lady C says that the king and William were notified prior to the arrest
Humor Me said…
MIsconduct as a public official is a vague term yet the Epstein files seem to point to exactly what Andrew did as the trade envoy. So the question is - what has JCMH traded away for his continued life in the States? And where is Fergie in all this, lol?
Iansgirltammy said…
I still think it's a plot to bring down the Monarchy. Not that I doubt Andrew is guilty, nor do I care that he's been arrested. But it beggars belief that he is being arrested for something that happened 15 years ago, and I always felt he was singled out far more than anyone else in the Epstein nonsense. And I'm sorry, but I do think the Epstein scandal IS nonsense, with regards to grown men having sex with consenting 16 and 17 year olds. Tacky, but not paedophilia. It's very typical that anything involving money gets punished, but in the meantime, all those in high places who ignored the grooming and rape of young girls for decades, have risen to the highest offices in the kingdom. (Please excuse my grammar, it's been a rough day!)
Humor Me said…
You have a point, as Much Ado is being made by certain entities across the Pond with the American President (and others) being named in the E-Files. As to the age of the young women, it IS a problem depending on the time, place, circumstances and where your were raised in the States. Trafficking is what this comes down to - some were willing, some were deceived. Just my two cents.
It is interesting how much different commenters discuss about the mental health of the King and Andrew. Is it because they are so much more important persons than ordinary Brits? The women and girls Andrew have used may also have psychological difficulties and the Royal Family has not once commented the very young girl slaves of British grooming gangs with severe mental problems that has taken the lives of some of them. The rules seem different....

Girl with a Hat said…
A van from a company which handles fine art was seen outside of the Royal Lodge and outside of Andrew`s new home in Sandringham today.
Do you think he bought Picasso`s or did Fergie replace the paintings furnished with the two homes by fakes and sold the originals?
Maneki Neko said…
I couldn't agree more, there are anti monarchy groups operating in the UK. The police, or the upper echelons anyway, are not totally unbiased. Added to that, is it a coincidence that Andrew was arrested today, his birthday? I think not. Could that not have waited a day or two, or happened a few days ago? As for the 'suspicion of misconduct in public office', this is laughable. In that case, half the government past and present should be arrested. Added to that, 'The offence is highly discretionary, often criticized for lacking a clear statutory definition.' It seems rather vague and I presume it relates to Andrew's time as a trade envoy. The rest, i.e. sleeping with young girls over the age of consent, is just 'fluff' and as you rightly said, not paedophilia. I'd rather the government got on with the public inquiry into the grooming gangs. These very young girls were/are genuine victims and have never had any compensation. To paraphrase Shakespeare, something is rotten in the state of Britain.
Maneki Neko said…
To add to my previous comment (replying to Iansgirltammy), Starmer said apropos Andrew that 'Nobody is above the law'. Indeed, but again, in that case I can think of quite a few people who should then be indicted, starting with himself and some members of his cabinet. Andrew's arrest also conveniently shifts the spotlight away from Mandleson, also implicated in the Epstein business.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://babylonbee.com/news/prince-andrew-joins-uk-muslim-rape-gang-so-he-can-keep-abusing-young-girls

Only click if you have a good sense of humour.
Girl with a Hat said…
I can`t believe this story.

In April 2019, the Times had a bombshell story about what was happening behind the scenes at Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace as courtiers tried to figure out what to do about Prince William and Kate on one side, and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex on the other side. There were multiple quotes and revelations in this piece which proved to be accurate. Not only accurate, but prescient about the real fear (within the palace) that they were simply going to lose Harry and Meghan’s star power if they didn’t properly manage them. Palace officials were talking openly about sending Harry and Meghan away, outside of the UK, but in an official capacity with some kind of title and job, like governor-general of Canada or Australia, or UK trade ambassadors. In Spare, Harry confirmed that those discussions took place as well. Within all of the “how do we harness the Sussexes’ rock-star power” discussions, there was Prince William, like a bump on a log, his insecurities front and center. A source told the Times: “People are telling William, ‘Don’t worry. Your influence will grow and Harry’s will fade.’ This is peak Harry.”

Within this same Times piece, sources confirmed that William had been “reaching out to senior figures in the media as he prepares for kingship and by the apparent decision of those same newspapers to side with the palace over Meghan and Harry by peddling the most negative coverage of the duchess’s relationship with her father, Thomas Markle.” One source said, “The danger to them is that Meghan is going to be bigger than Diana.” And that’s why William was 100% behind the effort to simply get Harry and Meghan out of the country: “In some ways it would suit William to get his brother out of the country for a few years and Meghan as far away as possible.” Well, obviously, Russell Myers’ new book, William & Catherine, has completely reimagined this royal history.


abbyh said…

Eh, similar has come out of the Sussex camp before (think Scobie book which she did/didn't assist in) and other media pieces - how the people in the palace were quaking in their shoes about how powerful the Duo were and similar fear of them by members of the royal family. Really. Can you picture William or Catherine (or even Camilla) hiding behind a sofa crying because they are afraid of one or both? that somehow one or both now has more power? Contrast that with the image of Catherine in the golden dress? Not so scared.

Do I think that the palace tried to come up with ideas, things to do, places to stay for them? yes. I think they tried long and hard to come up with something to help them. So that would be "true". When you mix some truth with "this" is how I view things which does not match the reality of the others , it can sound very believable because you know this or that part is true ... so you might conclude that perhaps the rest "ought" to be equally true.

As for this making * sail even higher in the public than Diana - as above but note it is focused on her and not him. Besides how? how does negative about her father translate to sustained (read life long or close to life long) major historical legacy for the next multiple generations? (and who might want that? him? nah, but she might as it could strengthen a victim legacy .

Do I think William wanted they out of the country? well sorta as in hopes they might find something else to do, focus on far away and less meddling in his future life as he tries to keep all the plates spinning in a post King Charles world. I think he saw the potential for the future problems, maybe not in detail which we have seen so far. Decisive.

Magatha Mistie said…

Starmer Chameleon

Andrews downfall almost done
The media’s had their fun
Now get back to Mandelson…

Maneki Neko said…
@alianor d'aquitaine

I don't think the RF have commented on the victims of the grooming gangs specifically but Charles and Camilla have stated their 'utmost sympathies have been, and will remain with, the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse'. That was about Andrew, therefore they couldn't mention the grooming gangs in particular but I think the broad statement was rather explicit.
Magatha Mistie said…

Appears that Maxwell, Mandelson
and Andrew ( Brits) are carrying
the can for Epstein?
Magatha Mistie said…

The Hand that Cocked the Sable

I doubt very much if
Andrews fuckery
Would result in the demise of
the monarchy
They’ve weathered much worse
in their long history
Onwards and upwards
despite anarchy…


Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbGHq4_7TzE

Neil Sean gives info from behind the scene
It must be horrible to Andrew who has all his life done exactly as he pleases and never heard word NO to be in a situation where the whole world watches and hopes he gets proper punishment for what he has done. Maybe he is not intelligent enough to think that if he had been more human and kind to people during his 60 years of life they would not hope that he suffers as much as people seem to hope.

Girl with a Hat said…
A journalist at the DM wrote that she heard the news about Andrew's arrest, entered her bank and announced the news to everyone, and they all cheered.
abbyh said…
Really thoughtful piece

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/1r95me6/words_matter_reading_between_the_lines_of_kciiis/
Maneki Neko said…
Thoughtful, yes. I would add that 'I have learned' implies that Charles heard at the same time as us, i.e. wasn't informed before us. Also note 'with the deepest concern', in other words I do care and am really alarmed.
OKay said…
I'm not sure how you think the King panicked? I thought his statement was very well-worded.
Will the King cause more suspicion and quite frankly harm for himself by defending the York girls before they and their finances have been properly investigated? Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II knew the line between a family matriarch and the head of state even when she had to throw her own son to the wolves but it seems that The King has not the same clear idea about the situation.

It is extremely worrying when an elderly gentleman with severe health problems is forced to face overwhelming stress that is not going to ease in the near future.

And this can't be easy for William who has his own wife and her health to worry about when this situation is going on and on and on.

Girl with a Hat said…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4120e40d436de0a1e2b78dbdce0a24755ec90c75cdfa57a6bec072bd5a7b00c1.jpg

With Andrew's protection officers being urged to testify against him, will this make Hairy and * re-think their demands for securitay?
abbyh said…
Now that's a funny thought.

And what about the people he had in the past? Like with him in Vegas and all the things he mentioned in his book that they did for him prior to his marriage? Sometimes one ought not to kick that ant hill.
Girl with a Hat said…
his army colleagues and commanding officers?
Maneki Neko said…
I am reading about Andrew's time as a trade envoy when he was in the UAE. 'Mr Nixon [then ambassador to the United Arab Emirates] tells Sir Stephen Brown, the UK Trade and Industry chief executive, that by rudely disregarding a number of dignitaries, including an Emirati royal, 'the Duke has damaged rather than enhanced our standing and that of the Royal Family'.' Although different, does this remind anyone of somebody else in Morocco and King Mohammed VI? Perhaps someone should have contacted the government and the Queen.
Maneki Neko said…
@Girl with a Hat

An interesting point re Harry and his demands. Be careful what you wish for...
Girl with a Hat said…
* has got herself some new jewellery. Is it a diamond? I thought they were broke

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15582033/Meghan-Markle-chill-Brut-diamond-ring.html
Girl with a Hat said…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3cbda29cf21035dc27047bd72a5d388c9687055b784f78dcf266594151e3872.jpg

They`ll try to say that they knew that this was coming so that`s the reason for Megxit but ...
Maneki Neko said…
Yes, * debuted her new diamond ring a few days ago I presume it's the same ring). We don't know if it's a genuine diamond, maybe lab grown, or imitation one. The pear shaped stone has been estimated at 5 carats. The ring made a first official appearance at the 75th All-Star NBA game, a sport event being the best place to display it!
Over 20 years have two afternoon papers (very low quality) in my country been publishing news about Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's private life, work as an UK trade ambassador and his very questionable monetary transactions. It has not been necessary to be capable to read English papers to know very much about his sordid and unedifying life as Airmiles Andy and a very entitled prince lacking all social graces.

And yet, His Majesty the King did not know anything about all this?

abbyh said…
Well I don't know though. There's knowing and then there's knowing like fully aware.

If he personally read the emails talking about hey there's something odd here - maybe yes and still maybe no. If he were told there could be a problem by a staff person, then it's all in the what was said and how it was said. Layer in that the two brothers were not good buddies and that A was able to forestall questioning by his/their mother - so even if Charles was aware AND had said something to either, then would he have been listened to?

I knew my family narc had behaved badly at the last family reunion (we were tapped to some what keep an eye on them). Apparently we missed some things as I recently learned that narc said some threatening things to someone of equal age that that person was frightened by. That whole family spent the rest of the reunion (and thereafter) giving narc a wide berth but no one from that side, or our side mentioned it to us until it was a year or more later. We had no idea. You can't be everywhere nor can you control others. Especially those who don't want anyone to control them.

I feel sad that this is now going to be linked to the King who has tried very hard to juggle his time while he waited for the throne, do the good things and now this.
Girl with a Hat said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR8VoLSLHc8

ex-protection chief of Royals spills the beans on Andrew
I would have thought that NDAs were still binding, but apparently not.
Girl with a Hat said…
An aide has a copy of an e-mail sent to Charles in 2018 saying that Andrew was bringing the Royals into disrepute so Charles cannot plead ignorance.
Girl with a Hat said…
Personally, I think no one wanted to upset the Queen
Girl with a Hat said…
So a quasi-royal tour of Syrian refugees in Jordan!
It seems to me they are trying to show the BRF that they can be an asset and want to return.
Maneki Neko said…
I was just reading the article. What on earth are they for there and in what capacity?
'Following their visit to the refugee camp, Harry and Meghan arrived at the Specialty Hospital in Amman. The Sussexes visited frontline health and mental health programmes and met World Central Kitchen staff co-ordinating food relief for Gaza from Amman.

Earlier in the day, Meghan and Harry joined a roundtable discussion with senior figures from UN agencies like UNWRA, UNHCR, World Food Programme, Unicef and diplomatic attendees from countries like the Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Canada the EU.' (DM) The BBC said 'The couple, who stepped down as working royals in 2020, have travelled to Amman at the invitation of Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization (WHO).' In that case, I don't think the WHO should be taken seriously. The Sussex ex are not experts in anything. Meanwhile, * was seen in her trademark wide, vastly oversized and over long creased trousers. Apparently, the duo had no entourage - * does her own hair makeup, don't you know - 'and likely no 6ft ironing board of her own like Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor preferred to have on hand' (DM). I don't think Catherine would have appeared so unkempt, she's always immaculate, and somehow I don't think the duo can 'show the BRF that they can be an asset', far from it.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

Are you away? We haven't heard from you in a while.
Girl with a Hat said…
I also don`t think she should have pushed up her sleeves, and she probably should have found a way to wear a discrete head covering in the face of all these young women who were wearing head scarves.
She just didn`t seem to be appropriately attired
The USA doesn`t belong to the WHO, and for good reason. The Sussexes don`t seem to care about that though.
Daily Mail quality news. They have over 70 photos of the sussex royal tour in Jordan of which amount 9 are the SAME picture of the baroness in dirty green t-shirt. If I interpret this correctly the idea is to show this illustrious pair as very significant representatives of the Royal House of Britain. The text however mocks the unspeakable looks of Harry's mrs in her trousers that are too long, do not fit and have not seen any iron. The text also mentions the warm relations that the Prince and Princess of Wales have with the Royal House of Jordan who have not sent a representative to welcome the sussexes. Why the ambassador of Britain was participating in this mess is anybody's guess but I bet the labour government of Britain have their paws in the soup while they wait the collapse of their own Royal House at home. But what do I know I'm just an ignorant foreigner.

The Sidley twins say that it is a question of Pay-to-play of the pr firm that the sussexes have rehired to work for them and I say that anything to do with any branch of the UN that are all corrupt and dirty is extremely questionable and the organization should be abolished as should the WHO that have asked the two morons to this visit.

The baroness looks dirty, ugly and undignified and her husband (what's his name? I can't remember) looks unkept and unhappy and doesn't seem to have ANY idea what he is doing there.

I went and checked the picture of the Princess of Wales in a wrinkled dress the Mail mentions and I say she is one beautiful, elegant and extremely representative lady the Brits can always be very proud of.

Harry's wife proudly focuses in her work in Jordan ?!?!?!?

She never works and definitely not in Jordan.

Girl with a Hat said…

HG Tudor's latest video - Andrew : The Tip of the Iceberg : Bombshells Ahead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU08Xr-gtAg
Girl with a Hat said…
According to this video, there are going to be many incidents that date back to Andrew's time in the Armed Forces as a pilot. He tried to sexually harass female military personnel! And he was recognised as a hero of the war of the Falklands! The cover up has been ongoing for decades and I can't imagine that the Queen and Charles weren't aware. Just like with Harry and his transgressions while in uniform.
Maneki Neko said…
The Harkles spoke to patients at Amman's National Centre for Rehabilitation of Addicts and wrote messages of support on post-it notes, * writing in her trademark 'calligraphy' - similar to the message(s) of support they send her father when he had his leg amputated? I'm surprised they didn't give a banana to each patient with 'You are loved' written on it.
Maneki Neko said…
Now *&H have been snubbed by Jordan's royal family. Their visit 'included an event at the British Ambassador’s residence with World Health Organisation officials and Embassy staff yesterday that has been branded ‘entirely inappropriate’ by critics.' Ouch! This shows the Jordanian royal family are no fools and know who the genuine royals are - and they're not *&H.
Look at the photo below showing the duo at a meeting yesterday, they would suck the joy out of anyone.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2026/02/26/12/106696999-15594931-image-m-2_1772108592461.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15594931/Harry-Meghan-snubbed-Jordan-royal-family-King-Abdullah-eldest-son-close-relationship-Charles-William-swerve-meeting-Sussexes.html
What is the message King Charles have been sending to the world about his younger son. Harry is bland the working members of the Royal House in the Royal UK pages. The ambassador of UK receives him with glowing words. The King never says anything contrary so it seems that Harry is fully representing his father when travelling around the world. Somehow all this diminishes the dignity of the Crown when the Monarch does not seem to know himself who is in and who is out....

When any of the Royal ladies visit hospitals and talk to patients and personnel people always seem very happy and smile at them, you know the Princess Royal, the Duchess of Edinburgh and the Princess of Wales. But when the baroness visits any place no one seems happy, no child, no patient, no nurse, not even the dogs react positively when she looks at them with her cold killer eyes. I can't believe she is so delusional that she thinks she has ANYTHING to give anyone for she is NO Diana who was so warm and beautiful and RADIANT!

The baroness is such a loser!

Maneki Neko said…
@alianor

Harry certainly does not represent his father. The fact that *&H were met by British diplomats doesn't mean anything. I suppose they had to and it is not an endorsement of their visit, simply protocol. Charles can't keep commenting every time Harry goes somewhere. Remember, never explain, never complain. In the UK, we don't view Harry, a long way away in California, as an extension of the Crown.
Girl with a Hat said…
They crashed the meeting at the British Embassy:

a source with knowledge of the trip has said the British Ambassador had not invited Harry and Meghan to his reception marking Iftar - the meal eaten by Muslims at sunset to break their fast during Ramadan.

The invitation had been to Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO). He had then asked the Duke and Duchess along as his guests, it is understood.

Girl with a Hat said…
I hit "publish" before including the link on the comment above. Here it is:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15598157/Harry-Meghan-inappropriate-visit-Jordans-UK-embassy-Sussexes-attend-British-ambassadors-event-quasi-royal-tour-despite-not-invited-Foreign-Office.html
The most important person in this WHO:s happening in Jordan was clearly Harry's wife. I mean look at the photos of different groups there. Her Royal Highness Princess Basma bint Talal, the director-general of WHO Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus and the son of King Charles are all there but who sits in the most important place in the centre with a smile that tells everybody that she knows she is where her justifiable and entitled place is. (Did she rush before anyone else had time to sit and placed herself in the middle?!?)

That woman is sick in the head and totally preposterous.

I haven't said anything for a while because my darling Mr Wildboar died last week when we were away for a few days without our laptop. Returned home only today. Shall try to catch up but there's so much to do. It was an unexpected unsurvivable stroke.
abbyh said…
Oh, WBBM. I am so sad to hear that Mr. WBBM passed. My thoughts (and prayers if you accept that) are with you today and on going.
Girl with a Hat said…
WBBM, please accept my deepest and most sincere condolences. May his memory be eternal.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

If you read this at some stage - I am so sorry to hear your news. My thoughts are with you. Take care x
Wild Boar Battle-maid
As Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth so beautifully said grief is the price we pay for love. I wish you strength and send you my warmest thoughts during this difficult time.

Yes, clear and thoughtful, to those of u who have learned love this comment about A in one of the SMM comments:

pquince1

8d ago
Found out the hard way that the dildo of circumstances rarely arrives lubed.
Thank you for asking Maneki.
Sadly my darling husband died while we were away for a few days and its taken a week to do the basic legal stuff and arrange `repatriation' . I'm home now and overwhelmed by what I now have to do.
abbyh said…
WBBM,
I wish you lived down the street. You could come over for hugs and tea.
OKay said…
@WBBM I am so sorry for your loss.
Humor Me said…
@WBBM - I am so sorry. My prayer for you is peace of mind as you walk through these days, comfort - may his memory be a blessing, may the quiet calm your thoughts, may the care from others take away the pain. Know that you are loved near and far. Cyber hugs from this poster.
VetusSacculi said…
WBBM - I am so sorry
Mel said…
WBBM....I'm so very sorry. It's hard enough when it happens at home. I can't imagine trying to deal with it when out of town. Sending good thoughts.
Iansgirltammy said…
Oh, WBBM, I am so very sorry! I completely missed your initial posts. Please accept my deepest condolences. I cannot fathom how you must be feeling.
Magatha Mistie said…

Dear WildBoar
So very sorry to hear about
Mr WildBoar.
Sending sincere condolences, thoughts and prayers.
Stay strong Hildisvini X

Thank you all so very much. He was a lovely man and I feel richly blessed to have known such love and care, especially after my previous marriage to a vindictive narcissist. I shall just have to put on my big Battle-maid pants and my boar , helm, pick up my sword and shield and stride purposefully on.
Maneki Neko said…
@Wild Boar

That's the spirit. It's easier said than done, of course. I wish you much courage for the months ahead. Take care x
Maneki Neko said…
'Meghan Markle 'splits from Netflix and will take sole control of her As Ever jam empire as she feared TV giant was too cautious with the brand''

Maybe we could de phrase this and say that Netflix dropped *. Delusional as ever, * 'wants to 'go global', believing her brand can 'stand on its own'.' Of course it can, Megs, of course it can.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15621823/Meghan-Markle-Netflix-split-jam-empire.html
The baroness can't wait to share more (once again) while she wants to go global (you know Netflix is such a local business).

I believe she wakes up every morning with a thought: "The Whole World Is Waiting For Me To Tell Them What I Am Going To Do Today!".

Such an unbelievable character!

Maneki Neko said…
The DT says *&H are visiting Sydney and Melbourne next month 'as private citizens pursuing their own charitable and commercial interests rather than representatives of the UK', mentioning their 'hugely successful tour of Australia' seven years ago. Hugely successful? You could have fooled me. They had all year to visit Australia but their visit 'will likely coincide with the King and Queen’s planned state visit to the US'. I'm sure this is just a coincidence...

@Magatha - lucky you, I know you will be delighted to see the duo and I can't wait to hear first hand about their visit 😉

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